i spend 30min everyday last time just to get the right position for holding the bow. got some help from a friend who now studying music too, intensif training on how to hold bow.

i think if not wrong after awhile, teacher notice i hold bow very well and praise me for it.

Work hard and u get good results.

they are no shortcuts.

teacher guides, u practise.

No practise= no result.

if u play only once a week during lesson, comparing training 7 days a week, u are only learn 7 times slower than others.

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Added on April 14, 2008, 4:15 pmcello, kinda personal question, but why didnt countinue for degree overseas??

ZOMG, u are a boy!
long long ago,my friend say u is girl, with GIRL TAG!

This post has been edited by icypetals: Apr 14 2008, 04:15 PM

like since i donno.

certificates are useless, yes, ut an firm basic education is required for lasting career. they are too many diploma everywher.

we must try to strive for degree or masters in oversea university/colleges.

during those time, we will be expose to more gerne of music, understnading, and learn more things. we must not confine ourself only to malaysia.

oh well, i have no right to speak for u

i understand what you mean.

but an oversea education will bring much exposure to the world of music rather than closing our doors only to malaysia.

and thou we dont make music for money, we still need money to live.

is a win-win situation going oversea.
u are more expose to music and better understnading to musical culture oversea. u will be more informative and bring back a new set knowlege.

passion and understanding music is the core of being a musician, YEs!
but u can get more passion and understanding overseas!

We must try to expand our knowlege.

a wise person who have much wisdom thinks that he does not know enough.

that are so many more things to learn, try to expand the view.

hopefully u dont flame me back and try to understand what im saying.

As donald trump stats:" even if you have skills and passion, without a basic education, you are nothing".

we must think for our future as well. u must try to get further education if possible.
And going overseas means learning more!

maybe.
there are still far more things to learn where we cant get in malaysia.

why would a person want a master degree teacher than a diploma?
easy, he has more knowlege.

i rather have a teacher who is expose much to the world and understand many things, rather than a teacher thinking that having a diploma and can play well means u are the best.
many ppl can play well, look at the prodigies all over the world, BUT is the understanding and knowlege that counts.
thou, learning has no ends.

hopefully he gets that into his head.

no offense.

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Added on April 15, 2008, 2:32 pmoh ya, added: example: why do ppl study accounts in college/uni when they already know accounts?

Why do ppl study science in uni when they already know sience?

why do ppl study arts when do already know arts?

cello, im sorry to say this, but i always look highly at u and take every of ur comment seriously as i look up apon you, but ur recent few comments make me disapoointed badly

This post has been edited by icypetals: Apr 15 2008, 02:32 PM

ooh

At last XD end of flame war.

those ppl who go for cert why do we need to bother them? just let them be. they go there siok siok because their parents are rich=.=

we are the kind where we need to save just for an oversea education

well, for career wise, a degree is vital for a stable future. u wont want to be a diploma holder for the rest of your life=.=
and yes, cant wish to see the enviroment oversea, all the knowledge!

im planning for a masters T.T hopefully save enough+loan

for me, the more u study, the more u gain, the more u travel, the more you learn, the more you work, the more you receive.

ya, u can go far with a diploma.

but why stop if u can study further?? there is no pain learning more!

yup, if u want to be a millionare. dont be a musician.

but sometimes i see many music teachers who are not dedicated, they dont even have a good music education, they teach just because of the money, and when student come in, they give abit of theory homework, and walk out of the class to chit-chat. haiz.......... this kind of teacher ruins the beauty of the music and destroys the student's passion. they dont bother bout the student, and they are not dedicated.

I feel very lucky to have a good music teacher.
he ask me go down penang to find him during school holiday and he will take me around kai kai and discuss about my future.
he will always take me around places when there is oppurtunity.
lucky to have such a dedicated teacher

actually, there are a fews ways. ur dream for degree is not hancur yet=.="

you can start saving 1k per month, and by the time you go like 30-40k( a few years of saving). you can apply for loan for oversea. then when you come back, you can slowly pay. many people do that now, and u pay like rm300-1k per month, so its worth the while!

go to ur trustd bank and ask about it

"Embrance your dream"- quote by Zack ( final fantasy )

well good luck, u can still suceed with diploma but why not go further?

just like a story my school teacher told me:
A boy said that his dad did not finnish form 2 and is driving mercedez.

then my teacher said that "if u study until standard 4, you would be riding an helicopter right?"

eventhou is funny, there's actually a lesson and moral in it.

think about cello, i will be rooting for ur suceess

nothing is impossible.
as long as u practise each instrument with the right amount of time, and dont just play it once-aweek in lesson, then you will be fine.

thre are 4 internationally known exam in the world.

ABRSM
LCM
TRINITY
GUILDHALL

usual malaysian take ABRSM but its based on own/teacher preference

80 is quite cheap. if u are no ready to give out the money, dont waste ur time learning it as u are only wasting ur time as u r not dedicated.

Sorry to be direct, but u dont sem to put ur whole heart into it.

sit down and think, are u ready to give all u have to the violin? if so, u may proceed

then good luck on to it!
i ask for double lessons and pay double cause 30min per lesson is too short.

i spend bout 4 hours per day on music, whereby piano would be 3hours or violin 1 hour, or 2:2 ratio.

as long as u practise everyday, all effort wont go to waste

i use my laptop to tune my guitar and violin lol

if ur pc got mic pm me, i giv u the software

i use my piano n ear for other times.

Wat i meant was we are on9, so got pc, and can give him a free software ma.

i like using the digital tuner and play infront of it, so i can see whether how "IN-TUNE" i play.

So more laptop detectt sound faster than an electronic device, so faster response

i use it to tune for both my guitar and violin. it detects any sound, u just set the frequency etc etc.

tuning fork? i think few years ago i use it.

usually piano, piano easier