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> Strongbaby Refund Thread., For those looking for refunds.

RangerRed
post Dec 6 2007, 08:44 AM, updated 17y ago

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This thread is for buyers that are looking for refunds from Strongbaby AFTER waiting for MORE THAN 28 WORKING DAYS.

If you want to add your name to the list just copy and paste the list from the last post. The format should look like this:

your name === item === amount paid === balance owed

Example:

John Smith === 100" LCD === RM5000 === RM5000

Strongbaby than must refund the "Balance Owed" immediately. Note, should he refund through Interbank Giro remember there is a waiting period by both banks to clear money.

If you do not report back in the thread immediately after confirming the correct amount has been refunded you will be given a 7 day 'vaction' for your account.

Strongbaby, you to refund ACCORDING TO THE ORDER OF THE LIST WITHOUT FAIL. You ARE NOT ALLOWED to SELECTIVELY CHOOSE WHO TO REFUND. If the amount of the person to refund next exceeds RM2K then you ARE TO REFUND AN AGREE AMOUNT (THAT YOU AND THE SAID PARTY HAS DISCUSSED IN PM) AND MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ONE IN THE LIST. When you have finished paying the 9th person from the list you then to return to the person/people you still owe money and pay another amount that is agreed upon. Example, you agree to pay THT and Hyde`fK RM500 on the 1st round. When you have refunded Kenny83 then you will start with THT and Hyde`fK and refund them another agreed amount. Then you proceed to refund superglwl onwards until tornad0 (he is the 9th person from THT on the 2nd round). Then refund THT and Hyde`fK again and continue from Synco to jerdude.

If you need a more detailed payment schedule than PM me. Do not selective choose who you want to refund because this is the same way you screwed us on how you delivered your promised goods to the list you made.

1.) THT === List Below === RM20080 === RM19880 === Emailed To Strongbaby === Refund Partial 17/12/2007
Pen Drive 2GB 50pcs - 1,880.00
Acer 17' Lcd Monitor 2unit - 960.00
Samsung 732n Plus 37Unit - 19,240.00
Samsung 206bw - 730.00
Samsung 931bw 4 Unit - 2,560.00
Acer 17' Lcd Monitor 5 Unit - 2,160.00
Samsung 931bw 2 unit - 1,240.00
Western Digitl 500gb 3 Unit - 1,110.00











































47.) lelong 2007 === 2x psp slim === RM1000 === RM500 === 15/12/2007 === Emailed To Strongbaby






55.) aliex87 === SE P1i === RM1400 === RM700 === 16 Dec 2007 === Emailed To Strongbaby
















75.) bill3 === 2xPSP Slim,Xbox360,NDSL,Wii ==== RM3460 === RM3460 ==RM2660=== 17/12/2007 === Emailed To Strongbaby

77.) Kerplunk === XFX8800GT,Gigabyte p35-ds3,Intel core 2 duo e6750 === RM1700 === RM1700 === 17/12/07 === Emailed To Strongbaby



81.) Dreamworks === NDSL (R4 Bundle) === RM450 === Balance remaining RM50 === "Contra" with clearance items, 10-01-2008 === 17/12/07 === Emailed To Strongbaby


84.) ihatemyguts === 8800GT x 1 unit ===RM800 === RM800 === 18/12/2007 === Emailed To Strongbaby


87.) No1n$anE === 2x PSP === RM1120 === RM1120 === 1/1/2008 === Emailed To Strongbaby








99.) tadpole-x === 4x NDSL with R4 bundle = RM1800 === RM1800 === 19-12-2007 === Emailed To Strongbaby


102.) ilovecsk === 2 x NDSL === RM900 === RM600 === 19Dec2007 === Emailed To Strongbaby







112.) VoonZ === NDSL X 5 === RM2250 === RM2250 === 22/12/2007 === Emailed To Strongbaby


115.) vodoo2k=== 1xps2 === RM400 === RM400 === 23/12/2007 === Emailed To Strongbaby
116.) Wind82 === 4 X PSP Slim 2 GB Package === RM2200 === RM2200 === 24/12/2007 === Emailed To Strongbaby
117.) stacko === Asus SATA Lightscribe DVD writer === RM88 === RM88 === 24/12/2007 === Emailed To Strongbaby
118.) r4g3 === 1 x Xbox360 20gb === RM1200 === RM1200 === 24/12/2007 === Emailed To Strongbaby

120.) mervynrwtw === PSP Slim ==== RM500 === RM500 === 26/12/2007 === Emailed To Strongbaby

122.) rcv86 === Sony Ericsson W610i === RM600.00 === RM600.00 = = = 26 Dec 2007 === Emailed To Strongbaby
123.) michealchew === LITEON 20x SATA - RM88.00 (20A1S) === RM88.00 === RM88.00 === 27/12/2007 === Emailed To Strongbaby
124.) tajulsans === Asus DVD Writer 18x === Rm90 === 28/12/2007 === Emailed To Strongbaby

126.) alexx84 === 19" LCD === RM830 === RM830 === 30/12/07 === Emailed To Strongbaby

128.) zelltan8 === PSP lite with 2gb memory card package === RM550 === RM550 === 31/12/07 === Emailed To Strongbaby
129.) Zeroize === 1 X samsung20x DVDRW === RM88 === RM88 === 31/12/07 === Emailed To Strongbaby
130.) nexus === PSP Lite === RM500 === RM500 === 9/1/2008 === Emailed To Strongbaby




136:) Arina == NDSL == rm450 == rm450 === 14/01/2008 ===

138.) Dark_lucifer === 47psp=== RM480=== RM22560
139.) Dark_lucifer === 2unit laptop BenQ === Rm2800each+shippingRm150===Rm5750
140.) xphonerz === XBOX 360 = RM1200 === RM1200 == 15-01-2008 === Emailed To Strongbaby
141.) scitzo === psp = RM500 === RM500== 16/1/2008
142.) scitzo === usb external harddisk === RM320 === rm320 === 16/1/2008
143.) tohama=== Toshiba & Pendrive's Pendrive === Rm 6+++ === RM 2160 (After Contra with Other Item ) === 16/1/2008
144.) tweetysamm === NDSL +R4 = RM450 === RM450=== 18-01-2008 === Emailed To Strongbaby
145.) local_machine === PSP Slim === RM500 === RM500 === 20-01-2008 === Emailed To Strongbaby
146.) bads === PSP Slimx3 === RM1500 === RM1500 === 20-01-2008 === Emailed To Strongbaby
147.) Esmond99 === PSP slim console only = RM500 === RM500 === 20-1-2007 === Emailed To Strongbaby
148.) Davidnikon === Sony PS2 === RM400 === RM400 === mailed on 2 Jan 2008 === Emailed To Strongbaby
149.) XPS.Station === 1GB Kingston DDR667 Memory === RM3,850.00 === RM3,850.00 === 30-1-2007 === [ Emailed To Strongbaby
150.) XPS.Station === AMD Athlon X2 4000+ === RM1,400.00 === RM1,400.00 === 30-1-2007 === Emailed To Strongbaby
151.) Element_18 === e6750 processor === RM570 === RM570 === 6 March 2008
152.)
153.)


Strongbaby will refund as soon as you email him your details at refund@abizon.net following this format according to page 3 of this thread instructions by Strongbaby:

Full Name
Nickname in forum
Bank Information
Amount & Item involved


Completed refund list:

2.) RangerRed === PSP Slim and 2GB Memory Card ==== RM550 === RM0 === 7/12/2007 === Emailed To Strongbaby === Refunded 17/12/2007
7.) xiong91 === PSP Slim and 4GB Memory Card ==== RM670 === RMo === 8/12/2007 === Emailed To Strongbaby === Refunded 17/12/2007
12.) eehtsitna === PSP Slim with 2gb MSPD package === Rm570.00 === Rm0 === 14/12/2007 === Emailed To Strongbaby === Refunded 17/12/2007
90.) kshin === 1 unit of psp slim with 2Gb memory === RM550 === RM550 === 18/12/2007 === Emailed To Strongbaby === Received PSP minus 2GB mem card === 1/1/2008
18.) tornad0 === NDSL+Shipping === RM470 === Contra Microsoft Reclusa (RM 270.00) + Microsoft Webcam (RM 89.00) === 10/12/2007 === Emailed To Strongbaby
27.) Cyphereza === 2x PSP Slim === RM990 === RM0 === 12/12/07 === Emailed To Strongbaby === Refunded 18/1/2008
66.) karising === PSP Slim + 2GB memory === RM550 === RM0 === 17/12/07 === Emailed To Strongbaby === Refunded 18/1/2008
32.) klmc === NDSL=== RM400 === RM0 === 20/12/07 === Emailed To Strongbaby === Refunded 18/1/2008
38.) miseralim === Western Digital Passport 160GB external Hdd === RM320 === RM0 === 13/12/2007 === Emailed To Strongbaby === Refunded 20/1/2008
14.) zamanjaafar === 1 x MSI 8800GT OC === RM800 === RM0 === 11/12/2007 === Emailed To Strongbaby === Refunded 19/1/2008
78.) ksyong9682 === 3 unit Intel E2140 === RM600 === RM0=== 31 Dec 2007 === Emailed To Strongbaby === Refunded 19/1/2008
68.) Apek===Sony PSP Slim(RM500)===Screen Protector (RM40)===Sony 4GB MSPD (RM160)===RM0===17/12/07 === Emailed To Strongbaby === Refunded 20/1/2008
73.) SkyX === NDSL + R4 === RM450 === RM0 === 18-12-2007 === Emailed To Strongbaby === Refunded 20/1/2008
62.) deed === 1x PSP and 1xW.D Passport HDD 160gb === Rm820 === Rm0 === 22/12/2007 === Emailed To Strongbaby === Refunded 20/1/2008
63.) pika-pika === NDSL + R4 Pack === RM450 === RM0 === 17/12/2007 === Emailed To Strongbaby === Refunded 18/1/2008
13.) crossbone== 1 unit of nintendo ds lite(R4 pack)==RM0==13/11/2007 === Emailed To Strongbaby === Refunded 18/1/2008
29.) daniel_lyw===Intel E6750, Gigabyte GA-G33M-DS2R, & WD 5000AAKS===RM1300===RM0===17/12/07 === Emailed To Strongbaby === Refunded 18/1/2008
54.) Jackolantern === 1 unit of PSP Slim Package (Console Only) === RM500 === RM0 === 16/12/2007 === Emailed To Strongbaby === Refunded 18/1/2008
11.) MikiJason === PSP white === RM 500 === RM 500 === 17/12/07 === Emailed To Strongbaby === Refunded 19/1/2008
30.) parsona === XFX 8800 GT=== RM800 === RM800 === 13/12/07 === Emailed To Strongbaby === Refunded 19/1/2008
59.) jj90210 === 2x XFX8800GT === RM1580 === RM0 === 16/12/2007 === REFUNDED (19/1/2008)
24.) kali65===1xPSP(console only) & 1xNDSL(R4 pack)===RM950===RM950===31/12/07 === Emailed To Strongbaby === Refunded 21/1/2008
3.) Dracoevo === NDSL + Samsung HDD 500GB + Samsung DVDRW === RM848 === RM648 (Refund Partial) === 8-12-07 Emailed To Strongbaby === Refunded 21/1/2008
50.) AhMiaW === 2x PSP === Rm1000 === 15/12/2007 === Emailed To Strongbaby === Refunded 21/1/2008
44.) carpathia === Sony k810i and Nintendo DS Lite === RM1350=== RM1350 === Emailed To Strongbaby === Refunded 18/1/2008
65.) kengsim === PSP x 2 === RM1,000 === RM1,000 === 17/12/2007 === Emailed To Strongbaby === Refunded 20/1/2008
4.) nagflar === MSI 8800 GT === 900 === 100 === 8-12-2007 === Emailed To Strongbaby === Refunded
45.) Godluvsxs===2 units PSP RM500 package === RM1000 === RM1000 ===14/12/2007 === Emailed To Strongbaby === Refunded 22/1/2008
33.) Balmung === PSP Slim and 2GB Memory Card + Shipping ==== RM570 === RM570 === 31/12/2007 === Emailed To Strongbaby === Refunded 22/1/2008
16.) remeron === samsung 226bw === RM1029 === RM1029 = = = Dec 9 2007 === Emailed To Strongbaby === Refunded 22/1/2008
25.) jerdude === Samsung 2232bw + 8800GT === RM2180 === RM1420 === 11-12-07 === Emailed To Strongbaby === Refunded 22/1/2008
67.) hoon === Samsung 500gb Sata2 === RM 350 === RM350 === 17/12/2007 === Emailed To Strongbaby==Refunded 22/01/2008
64.) kakarocht === CPU/Processor Q6600 G0 Stepping === RM880 === RM0 === 17/12/2007 === Emailed To Strongbaby === 12/1/2007
10.) Kenny83 === 1 unit of psp slim and 4GB Memory === RM650 === RM0 === 29/10/2007 === Emailed To Strongbaby === 22/01/2008
8.) kelvinbaby === 1 unit of psp slim === RM500 === RM500 === 10/12/2007 === Emailed To Strongbaby==22/01/2008
58.) Chromax8 === ZOTAC 8800GT AMP! Edition ==== RM900 === Contra on two items MS Reclusa K/B & Logitech G3 Mouse @ RM410 ==== RM 490.00 balance === Emailed To Strongbaby == 22/01/2008
42.) master_q=== NDSL (R4 package)=== RM450 === RM450 === Emailed To Strongbaby
31.) likito === XFX8800GT 512MB === RM800.00 === RM800.00 === 13/12/07 === Emailed To Strongbaby==23/01/2008
69.) jehutyz === PSP Slim ==== RM500 === RM500 === 17/12/2007 === Emailed To Strongbaby==23/01/2008
107.) newbie2 === 2 PSP +Intel C2S E6750+Abit IN9+Samsung 226BW+ Lite-on 18X SATA+ Enlight 400w = RM 2980 === RM 2980 === 20-12-2007 === Emailed To Strongbaby
46.) shoden === 8800GT === RM800 === RM800 === 14/12/2007 === Emailed To Strongbaby==24/01/2008
9.) lchee === PSP slim and lite + 4GB memory package === RM800 === RM800 === 8/12/2007 === Emailed To Strongbaby==12/01/2008
76.) kkreg === XFX8800GT === RM800 === RM800 === 17/12/07 === Emailed To Strongbaby==23/01/2008 (refer private forum)
35.) chuafc2006 === PSP Slim and 2GB Memory Card ==== RM550 === RM550 === 13/12/2007 === Emailed To Strongbaby==24/01/08
61.) dokidoki === NDSL === RM400 === RM400 === 17 DEC 2007 === Emailed To Strongbaby==Refunded==25/01/08
43.) one0one === PS2 Slim Modded === RM400 === RM400 === 14/12/2007 === Emailed To Strongbaby==Refunded==25/01/08
41.) StratOS === PSP slim and lite + 4GB memory package === RM800 === RM800 === 14/12/2007 === Emailed To Strongbaby==Refunded==26/01/08
60.) temptation1314 === NDSL + R4 Pack === RM450 === RM0 === 17/12/2007 === Emailed To Strongbaby === Refunded 25/1/2008
15.) vxeon === 1 unit of PSP Slim Package (Console Only) === RM500 === RM500 === 9/12/2007 === Emailed To Strongbaby==Refunded==24/01/08
37.) KaiserRagez === PSP Slim and 2GB Memory Card + Crystal Casing==== RM570 === RM570 === 13/12/2007 === Emailed To Strongbaby==Refunded==25/01/08
19.) Synco === NDS=== RM 450 === RM450 === 10/12/2007 === Emailed To Strongbaby==Refunded(Refer Private Forum)
20.) EDK== 1 unit of Samsung 226BW==RM999==27/08/2007 === Emailed To Strongbaby==Refunded(Refer Private Forum)
49.) DEz012 === XFX8800GT 512MB === RM800.00 === RM800.00 === 20/12/07 === Emailed To Strongbaby==Refunded 26/01/08
57.) vixxiee === XFX 8800GT === RM800 === RM800 === 16/12/2007 === Emailed To Strongbaby === Refunded 29/01/08
23.) heng84 === bundleditems listbelow ==== RM2060 === RM850 === 10/12/2007 === Emailed To Strongbaby === Refunded 30/01/08
1x Intel q6600 g0 stepping = RM850
72.) stone13 === Lite - On DVDRW & DS Lite === RM 538 === RM538 === 31 / 01 / 2008 === Emailed To Strongbaby === Refunded 30/01/08
83.) glo === PSP Slim + 2GB memory === RM550 === RM550 === 18/12/07 === Emailed To Strongbaby === Full refund (RM550) received on 1/5/08
80.) ahming888 === PSP Lite 2G package === RM570 === RM570=== 1/1/2008 === Emailed To Strongbaby

Update provided by Ravenz:

79.) tohkimwah === NDSL+R4 + PS2 = RM850 === RM850===17-12-07 === Emailed To Strongbaby ~ full refund
56.) kofsiong === intel C2D E6750 === RM570 === RM420 (RM150 refunded) === 16/12/2007 === Emailed To Strongbaby Full refund of RM420.
134.) toughnut === Nokia N81 8GB + 1x WesternD 500GB 5" + 3x Seagate 500GB 5" + 4x Seagate 120GB 2.5" === RM5970 === RM4470 === xx/12/07 === Emailed To Strongbaby === Partial Refund 03/02/08 Refund from SB rm1500 on 3 February 08
zeropulse 4 Feb 2008 - - - -RM1100
kevinwcw rm 650 refunded biggrin.gif
75.) bill3 === 2xPSP Slim,Xbox360,NDSL,Wii === RM3460 === RM2660 === 17/12/2007 === Partial Refund 13/2/2008 RM 800
71.) spacecopgaban === PSP + 2GB MSPD === RM550 === RM550 === 17-12-2007 === Emailed To Strongbaby Full refund (RM550)
21.) swantonng ===PSP 4GB Package=== RM 800 === RM800 === 12/12/2007 === Emailed To Strongbaby ~ I got my refund today after some complications in the pdf form
Kerplunk got my first installment of refunds of rm600 two weeks ago(dated 1st february 2008)
70.) lambchop === ndsl+r4 ==== RM450 === RM450 === 17/12/2007 === Emailed To Strongbaby ...refunded in full by bank in on 14th jan

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2nd wave of refunds

6.) Hyde`fK === List Below === RM5560 === RM5560 === 1/12/2007 (Waiting delivery of 1 PSP) === Emailed To Strongbaby
3x PSP Slim RM500 ea = RM1500
2x NDSL RM450 ea = RM900
2x PS2 RM400 ea = RM800
1x Xbox360 RM1110 ea = RM1110
2x PSP RM500ea = RM1000
5x 2GB RM50ea = RM250

34.) abox56 === 4xPSP Slim and 2x2GB Memory Card + ps2 ==== RM2500 === RM1000 === 20/12/2007 === Emailed To Strongbaby Contra 3 units microsoft keyboard 500, 3 units logitech G1 gaming keyboard.

40.) spikeee === NDSL === RM400 === RM0 === 14/12/2007 === Emailed To Strongbaby === Refunded by spikeee's sister

82.) nakhtaladakh === Sony Ericsson W610i ===RM600 === RM600 === 15/01/2008 === Emailed To Strongbaby

28.) ColeXE === 1x Intel C2D E6750 === RM550 === RM550 === 12/12/2007 === Emailed To Strongbaby
85.) Linkin182 === 2x PSP Slim = RM1000 === RM1000=== 20-11-2007 === Emailed To Strongbaby
22.) luminity === x4 unit PSP RM550 package === RM2200 === RM1200 === 10/12/2007 === Emailed To Strongbaby

26.) zx12 === PSP + SE K810i (Ori set) === RM 500 + RM 1100 === RM800 === REFUNDED RM800 === 12/12/07 === Emailed To Strongbaby
92.) Peacenik === AMD AM2 X2 4000+ = RM 210 === RM210 === 20-11-2007 === Emailed To Strongbaby
93.) Peacenik === LG DVD-COMBO = RM 88 === RM 88 === 20-11-2007 === Emailed To Strongbaby
86.) BLackmachine === PSP Lite Console Only === RM500 === RM500 === 18/12/2007 === Emailed To Strongbaby

94.) syin === 1 unit of psp slim with 2Gb memory === RM550 === RM550 === 18/12/2007 === Emailed To Strongbaby
95.) alpha_numeric182 === MSI 8800GT 512MB (received), Silverstone ST56F (have not received), LG DVD ROM (have not received) === RM1270 === RM470 === 18/12/2007 === Emailed To Strongbaby
96.) IcEMoCHa === ASUS 8800GT = RM 800 === RM 800 === 20-12-2007 === Emailed To Strongbaby
97.) azman4243 === Samsung 226BW = RM1000 === RM1000 === 18-12-2007 === Emailed To Strongbaby
91.) locolyric=== 1 unit of ndsl === RM450 === RM450 === 17/12/2007 === Emailed To Strongbaby
48.) yipwh === 2x XFX 8800GT === RM1600 === RM800 === 15/12/2007 === Emailed To Strongbaby
103.) neb === samsung harddisk 500GB + Liteon DVD writer + postage === RM438 === RM438 === 19-12-2007 === Emailed To Strongbaby
106.) cuteassmon === SAMSUNG SYNCMASTER 932B PLUS LCD 19 === RM640.00 === RM640.00 === 20/12/2007 === Emailed To Strongbaby
39.) tycheah_7 === 3x PSP Slim === RM1500 === RM1500 === 14/12/2007 === Emailed To Strongbaby
100.) blah1134 === 8800GT === RM800 === RM800 === 19/12/2007 === Emailed To Strongbaby
101.) fedoracore === 1 unit PSP SLIM (console only) === RM500 === RM500 === 19/12/2007 === Emailed To Strongbaby
105.) dmm9394 === 1xNDSL Black (R4 Pack) === RM450.00 === RM450.00 === 20/12/2007 === Emailed To Strongbaby
89.) messenger === NDSL +R4 = RM450 === RM450=== 18-12-2007 === Emailed To Strongbaby
98.) silverchain === 2 unit of psp slim 2GB package + shipping === RM 1120 === RM 1120 === 19/12/2007 === Emailed To Strongbaby
109.) kingsthii === PSP === RM520 (RM500+RM20 Postage) === RM520 === 20/12/2007 === Emailed To Strongbaby
110.) leezhunkeat === Intel Core 2 Duo E6750 === RM570.00 === RM570.00 === 20/12/2007 === Emailed To Strongbaby
70.) lambchop === ndsl+r4 ==== RM450 === RM450 === 17/12/2007 === Emailed To Strongbaby
108.) jamis === PSP Lite White ceramic === RM550 === RM550 === 20 DEC 2007 === Emailed To Strongbaby
79.) tohkimwah === NDSL+R4 + PS2 = RM850 === RM850===17-12-07 === Emailed To Strongbaby
56.) kofsiong === intel C2D E6750 === RM570 === RM420 (RM150 refunded) === 16/12/2007 === Emailed To Strongbaby
5.) pr3dator === PSP Slim and 4GB Memory Card ==== RM800 === RM800 === 8/12/2007 === Emailed To Strongbaby
51.) zeropulse === 2xPSP Slim with 2GB MSPD === Rm1100 === 15/12/2007 === Emailed To Strongbaby
74.) chianping=== 2 unit of psp === Rm1000 === RM1000 === 17/12/07 === Emailed To Strongbaby
133.) wiseprince === intel Q6600 === RM880.00 === RM880.00 === 12/01/2008 === Emailed To Strongbaby
17.) cookie3184 === 1 X ndsl === RM450 === RM450 = = = 9 Dec 2007 === Emailed To Strongbaby
104.) Irishcoffee === PSP Lite + 2GB Memory Rm550 === RM550 === 19/12/2007 === Emailed To Strongbaby
134.) toughnut === Nokia N81 + WesternD 500GB SATA2 === RM3050 === RM3050 === xx/12/07 === Emailed To Strongbaby
119.) SAKIT === PSP Slim and 2GB Memory Card ==== RM550 === RM550 === 26/12/2007 === Emailed To Strongbaby
111.) slipars === Samsung 932b plus 19" LCD === RM620.00 === RM620.00 === 21/12/2007 === Emailed To Strongbaby
113.) Kimmimaro === PSP X 1 === RM500 === RM500 === 23/12/2007 === Emailed To Strongbaby
137.) wuming62 === NDSL +R4 = RM450 === RM450=== 15-01-2008 === Emailed To Strongbaby
132.) tick (ticke, cuz he can't spell his own nick) === PSP Slim n Lite === RM500 === RM500 === 11/1/2008 === Emailed To Strongbaby
125.) wallawey === samsung 732N+ === RM560 === RM560 === 28/12/07 === Emailed To Strongbaby
121.) vincentcool88 === samsung 932b+ === RM640 === RM640 = = = 26 Dec 2007 === Emailed To Strongbaby
renginez === PSP SLIM (1st batch) = RM500 === 28-06-2008 (morning) === Fully refunded by Strongbaby
127.) irvene2000 === 1x NDSL Black & 1x NDSL Pink (received) === RM900 === RM450 === 30/12/07 === Emailed To Strongbaby
garka===RM700
21.) swantonng ===PSP 4GB Package=== RM 800 === RM800 === 12/12/2007 === Emailed To Strongbaby
36.) celez === SE k810 (AP set) === rm870 === rm870 === 13/12/2007 === Emailed To Strongbaby
53.) kevinwcw === ASUS 8800GT === Rm800 === Rm650 (RM150 refunded) === 15/12/2007 === Emailed To Strongbaby
71.) spacecopgaban === PSP + 2GB MSPD === RM550 === RM550 === 17-12-2007 === Emailed To Strongbaby
junhe= RM 500 refunded on 4/07/2008
52.) t3quila™ === Intel Core 2 Duo E6750 === RM570.00 === RM570.00 === 22/12/2007 === Emailed To Strongbaby
114.) ibnjam=== 1xpsp 2gig bundle === RM550=== RM550 === 23/12/2007 === Emailed To Strongbaby
135.) protoNium === 1x PSP slim Lite === RM500 === RM500 === 14/01/2008 === Emailed To Strongbaby
88.) Celez === W610i === Rm600 === Rm600 === 1/1/2008 === Emailed To Strongbaby

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Format for sending your personal info to SB's lawyer for refund claim:

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Email to scorping@hotmail.com


Strongbaby's Details:

Ng Sze keat
ICNO: 770830145665
Add: Block 70-10-03 Sri Sabah Flat, Jalan Cheras, 56100 KL

Yellow Pages Msia info:
C-12-23A,Cemara Apartment,
Jalan Sri Permaisuri 3
56000, Bandar Sri Permaisuri,
Kuala Lumpur
Phone : 03-9173 8737

HP: 012 674 4388 and 016 3344388

NOTE: Strongbaby do not bother posting anything in this thread. The only thing you allowed to post is the details of the refunds. Other than that your other posts will be removed. Anyone posting stupid comments will get holiday from the forum. Anyone posting with smilies will get a holiday too. If you want to ask a question, use properly or at least understandable english.

This post has been edited by stevanistelrooy: Jul 12 2008, 01:43 PM
THT
post Dec 6 2007, 11:53 AM

Getting Started
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Junior Member
205 posts

Joined: Apr 2006
From: klang Valley



1.)26-10-2007 - RM2000.00 (1st Refund)
2.)01-11-2007 - : RM1000.00 (2rd Refund)
3.)06-11-2007- RM1000.00 (2rd Refund)
4.)13-11-2007 - RM1500.00 (3th Refund)
5.)13-11-2007 - Rm500.00 (PSP)
6.)27-11-2007 - Rm500.00 (4th Refund)
7.)27-11-2007 - Rm3300.00 (Deduct Incentive)
8.)20-12-2007 - Rm200.00(5th Refund )
9.)03-01-2008 - Linksys wireless router & Kingston 1GB DDR2 667Mhz Sodimm Ram
(Contrat with RM280.00)



Balance as of today(21/07/08): RM8600
After sign The AGreement Installment by 10months

1.)18-01-2008 - Rm1800 - Balance Rm16200
2.)02-06-2008 - Rm1800 - Balance Rm14400
3.)03-06-2008 - Rm1800 - Balance Rm12600
4.)05-06-2008 - Rm1200 - Balance Rm11400
5.)07-06-2008 - Rm1800 - Balance Rm9600
6.)28-06-2008 - Rm600 - Balance Rm9000
7.)20-07-2008 - Rm400 - Balance Rm400
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This post has been edited by THT: Jul 24 2008, 11:05 AM
strongbaby
post Dec 7 2007, 04:37 PM

Getting Started
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Junior Member
164 posts

Joined: Feb 2006
From: Garbage Bin



keep it coming.


The Head (invisible) ---> Main Agent/Supplier (Negotiator) ---> Me (Agent/Supplier) ---> Sub Agents.

Normally i refer the main guy as a negotiator in getting hardware components goods/phone/console/etc/etc.
at cheap price and with his terms and conditions.
whatever buyer here see my terms and conditions, ETA, rules and regulations are instructed by my main.
thats the deal between me and him.

For Buyers (What options do you have to proceed from here if things really gone awful).
- You may file a police report against me.
- You may file a legal action against me.
- You may co-operate or join whatever solutions available at bottom here.

For Seller (Me myself have to take action and prepare for worst scenario in case).
- If any police report against me, then the police here will do the part as well to investigate my report i made ago against main.
- If any legal action against me, then i have to get my lawyer to reply in legal manner as well.
-

Overall Conclusion to buyers & seller.
A) If i have the intention to cheat or con you, i wont be sitting here replying (even though slow) to you
or answering sms or phone calls. I will just off my phone and completely ignore all and be like the infamous guy once here.

B) Preparing for worst case scenario like during court hearing or no show up from Main agent, i will still be held responsible
to do refund at my own expenses. (kindly check out the options avail below later).

C) By digging or fork out own expenses, by all means i still have to find income and project offline or online or
borrow loan shark, loan from relatives (already tried), loan from friends, sell whatever items on hand avail and ETC.
Also i have a family to feed and child to take care of and it will gonna be burdening.

D) Lastly, those buyers personally meet up with me before will judge itself whether i am con man or not.
and why on earth i wanna put up myself in this kind of jeopardize tight situation. If people have the intention
to hurt me by all means, then i am speechless and nothing to say but i will stand and remain responsible for all outcome
and find solutions that is fair enough to both.

E)




Proposed Solutions Refund Policy (for deals in lowyat.net forum) or Goods.

A) Email your particulars with format shown below to refund@abizon.net
- Full Name
- Nickname in forum
- Bank Information
- Amount & Item involved

B) Requested members of refunds will be compile and proposed refund policy have to draft out soon at own expenses.



FAQ:
How i met or find this kind of main agent/negotiater?
- Through some past business contact at some meeting long time ago.

How you deal with him?
- Everything upfront as usual like buyers paid me and i paid him via cash.
- Delivery of goods given by meet up at random location point around city or outskirt area.

What is the background profile of this Main Guy?
- As far as i heard he might has a big boss above or linkage to 'invisible' people which i believe.

How long you been dealing with him?
- 2 to 3 years i guess down the road.


Regards,
Strongbaby

P.S: if interested to have a police report copy, request from police with 08407 and pay them RM10.

To be continue again

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- ADDED -

5.0) Con-Current Solutions that i am working on: (if you have know any rich businessmen interested)

5.1) Wooing Investors to start in gaming console business that can help turnaround.
3 potential investors are considering it after presented.
(able to source for direct wholesalers without relying or depending on middle men/agent)

5.2) Proposal for serious investors only. buzz me if need for whole view.

5.3) Already worked out this proposal that can at least help those especially affected buyers and others.


5.0x) 2nd Solutions working on:

5.0xa) Other shelved proposal - time to dust it off and revive back.



6.0) Refunding Solutions

6.1) At this sucky an ugly tight situation, as said earlier i have to dig out my own money & expenses
to do refund at own cost.

6.2) It will be a hell long process, from months to years with that amount for sure.
Refund will be done in either weekly, 2 weeks once, monthly and subject to change.

6.3) Refunding will be done like one by one each based on funds i borrowed, for example the first round of refund done days ago.
(take note: even borrowing money from people got a limit and dunno how much can get from approved funds)

6.4) At same time i have to dig out those old on-hand goods to clear off and compile it in one whole list and try sell it
off at cheap price and refund whichever way it can help.

6.5) I cannot allow my left hand to continue to pour out refunds if my right hand there is no sales income flowing in,
its not balance at all and will end up bottleneck and halted sooner or later.

6.6) Part Refunds will come from collecting debts from my customer in other business sector and project bidding (in progress).

6.7)



7.0) As for myself

7.1) I wont be easily give up or defeated with amount of refunding here as i have own responsibility towards my buyers
to fix up shits already happen, and will continue to seek solutions for new revive startup in same and other business
to generate massive income.

7.2) Future bleak but vow and strive to worked things out and have to reconnect new biz channels or sources.

7.3) Working with police (IO) with lead information nabbing the culprit and in 3rd stage will possibility submitting entire buyers particulars to IO for thorough checking or linkage.

7.4) Miracle happens or lady luck with you or hit lottery?!

7.5) Continue to workout additional solutions round the clock offline.



8.0) As for buyers


8.1) Sorry to say that, waiting for refund its hell long process this time, dependent on my sales income that
have to rebuild (restart/reset) again very soon.

8.2) You have the rights to lodge police report against me or sue me (as mentioned earlier), if you not satisfied
or not happy for waiting, i don't mind seriously, it's your rights, even the ASP told me.
Proceed to clause 9.0a for guide.

8.3) You may come and pay me a visit with address provided there for H20 drinking session.

8.4) You may continue to scream in forum with sadistic/sarcasm/criticism/flaming/stabbing or satanic remarks.

8.5) Don't worry too much, the one who suppose to worries or concern its me, always need to crack up my head and brainstorming.

8.6) I am always here, and will always remain here, don't speculate too much when i don't go online in forum for days while
i can be reach via sms, email, msn and phone calls.

8.7) To SMS me, make sure provide your initial nick at the end of msg, otherwise wont get any reply from me.

8.8) Those sent sms to me and dont get reply at all, probably overlook as sms flow in like stack of cards.

8.9) Don't ring me with restricted or unknown privacy numbers, chances are you wont get an answering.
Mostly your direct contat numbers are stored in my phonebook, so i know who i am talking to unless otherwise stated.

8.9a) Please dont message me with special remark requesting refund immediately/urgently with all sorts
of reasons esp with 'Hope you understand' (but who understand me?) as i am not ATM machine
and i am doing at my best effort to solve things around here.

8.9b) Lastly, co-operation from both side is required, and i have to think out of the box and hope you can as well.



9.0a) Step by step guide if you want to lodge report.

- Have your I.C ready

- Answer the basic Q&A from police at desk counter before they pen down the report.

- After officer typed out your report in computer, verify the spelling properly and statement,
make sure got my name and IC and whatever detailed info you will put its correct.

- They will verify with their superior your case report no. and submit to relevant IO in charge.

- Done.

- The IO will contact me for questionings and commercial crime unit will look into it.

- And i can rest in peace.



9.0b) Step by step guide if you want to engage a lawyer and dispute in court.

- Find a proper lawyer praticising in appropriate field.

- Submit any relevant supporting documents or proof.

- And the rest will be see in court hearing and start defending.

- Done. Rest in peace.


9.0c) Others

- Report #1 Link 1

- Report #2 Link 2

- Report #3 Link 3

- Report #4 Link 4


10.0) Overall Summary





And keep it coming again...


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Yup, from a person that don't cares.... a real serious and responsible person would have posted, 'What kind of arrangement I can make to satisfy you but at the same time is possible for me to keep.'

You see you guys, he has your money. And he doesn't care. All his goods (LCD, DVD burners) so far are from local distrobuters when you check the serial numbers on them.

And regarding the PSPs, when he tells you, you met up with him as he is picking up stock at Lowyat that means he was buying it from a shop there probably.

He will satisfy a few customers to keep all your hopes up. Because he needs the money with him to roll.


Added on December 7, 2007, 5:55 pmOh and for that smart ass comment and pm you get your name on the refund list for what you owe me.

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what happened to strongbaby and to his buyer actually?
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wow wad the hell are happening here? ... i dealt with him once but only small amount .. quite slow ... RM28k? .. wow soo much ...
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Hi,

I am one of the buyers waiting for a PSP from Strongbaby. I bought through my brother, RangerRed, as I did not have a lowyat account at that time. I had planned for the PSP to be a (very) belated birthday gift for myself - something which I have rarely done in my life.

Anyway, I have been waiting for a PSP since I paid in on October 31. It has been over a month now.

They say with time you see more clearly and I must thank Strongbaby for giving me ample time to contemplate on what a fool I had been to trust him and his promise of delivery.

Like many of the buyers here, I waited with baited breath, counting down the ETA to my delivery. After all 14 working days seemed like a reasonable wait. And with more people being added to the paid list, I thought that there would be no problem with the bulk.

But like beetle eggs hatching in the grain, the bulk soon became infested with problems.

Strongbaby gave convenient excuses - shipment is late, no stock, shortage of available colours, and so on.

One has to stop here and wonder, if Strongbaby issued the order to the 'suppliers' for your PSP/NDSL/PS2 immediately when you paid in, how can now there be a shortage when the order should have gone through much, much earlier?

Due to parallel goods and the holiday season? Ha!

Then when buyers started demanding a time frame for delivery, he increased the prices. Why did the wise Strongbaby do this? With the extra 'profit' from increased prices, he could cover what had been paid by earlier buyers.

And around and around the money rolls. But who gets the goods? No one knows. Except Strongbaby and he is not telling or being fair in who receives what and when - just look at the list of PAID buyers and the list of those who had goods delivered.

You might say, you misunderstand the numbers in the list is not in order. But if Strongbaby had been a conscientious seller, he should have taken the time to sort the list in order of payment and state the delivery schedule.

Actually, when asked to do this by people in this thread, Strongbaby refused. He didn't want to be responsible for late delivery.

In short, he refused to give transparency to what was happening with the bulk. Did he bother to update here when he knew shipment was going to be slow? No. Only when people complained and asked about delivery did he then give the excuse shipment was late, there was no stock... a litany of excuses which we swallowed because we did not think to question him.

Am I bitter? Yes. Bitterly disappointed in what should have been something to look forward to has become an ordeal in trying to either get my PSP or a refund. Do I feel cheated? Yes. Very much so.

To the buyers waiting for their PSPs, how long are you going to let Strongbaby string you along? When are you going to hold him accountable for failing to live up to his ETA delivery? How many excuses will you swallow before you have had your fill? The excuse of him being a slow seller doesn't hold water when he takes over a month to deliver your goods!

To Strongbaby, if you are indeed a man of honour and want to back up your claim as being a 'responsible and good' seller then you should do the ethical thing and:

a) refund the money to the buyers who want a refund.

b) close the sales temporarily and make good on your promises of delivery to waiting buyers.

If you don't, I really wonder how your moral compass swings.

Oh and have a merry Christmas since you can very well afford it now.
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nagflar === MSI 8800 GT === 900 === 100 === 8-12-2007

REASON of the balance is change product order during the waiting time . so price diffrent is
RM100 .

he promise to pay back the rm100 balance . but sadly he dint do so .

thx

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Strongbaby - Your favourite hell and cheap seller: Welcome to Abizon.net says:
ok, asap try to ship out this week

I think strongbaby cannot make it last week, I suggest refund, tq smile.gif
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nagflar - balance will be the current amount he still owes you. Supposedly, if you buy an item and the price drops. He promises to refund you the balance... so that would be the balance... a balance that equals the amount paid would me that you haven't received your item.
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QUOTE(RangerRed @ Dec 7 2007, 11:21 PM)
nagflar  - balance will be the current amount he still owes you. Supposedly, if you buy an item and the price drops. He promises to refund you the balance... so that would be the balance... a balance that equals the amount paid would me that you haven't received your item.
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is like this . we abt 10 ppl in graphic bulk . order 8800 GTS at rm900 . but when time move on new product 8800GT
come out with lower price RM800 . we change order to 8800 GT.

yes . he promise to pay me back the rm100 as refund . but he dint do so. so i guess this can be call refund rite ?

there is abt 10 ppl in strongbaby's graphic crad bulk which is same situation like me .

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So you got your cards just not the balance of the payment? Ok sticking ya in.
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QUOTE(RangerRed @ Dec 8 2007, 12:10 AM)
So you got your cards just not the balance of the payment? Ok sticking ya in.
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From his reply i feel he is arrogant and his fav quote is something like "If you believe then keep on waiting" something like that
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This the Notice List so to speak so he can see who is asking for refund without having to go through his own threads as well as for other to see who is asking for refunds. Whether he wants to refund you is up to him. Of course, should he decide not to do it... well that will prove to be very bad for him.
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QUOTE(RangerRed @ Dec 8 2007, 09:34 AM)
This the Notice List so to speak so he can see who is asking for refund without having to go through his own threads as well as for other to see who is asking for refunds. Whether he wants to refund you is up to him. Of course, should he decide not to do it... well that will prove to be very bad for him.
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shocking.gif if he don't want to refund the money will it considered burn or not? sweat.gif
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If he doesn't want to refund the money there be police made and probably visits by LYN members.
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I think the time bomb Has explodeD !!

This is a simple conman job here ...

Operation

Post few cheap bulk sales and people will start bank in money

Then to build up confidence he buy from retail shop and do delivery

Then more people start to bank in money , he then use this funds for maybe gambling , investment or whatever

So probably he lost heavily in gambling but no problem a lot people still funding his habits

When the mod step in to stop this new orders , he is stuck with no funds ...and he went to buy maybe few units from the retail shops to settle some AD HOC delivery and hope that people will start funding him again

and now ...the bomb as explode ..look at the huge amount of cash ...and sadly I believe he has lost most of them...

I believe a police report should be made if strongbaby do not issue any statement here ...don't wait too long

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QUOTE(RangerRed @ Dec 8 2007, 10:04 AM)
If he doesn't want to refund the money there be police made and probably visits by LYN members.
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ok. i get it what you mean. thanks.
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if the 14 working day period isn't up yet , can i be added to the refund list ? The non response from the seller is really unprofessional and worrying.
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QUOTE(heroes99 @ Dec 8 2007, 10:06 AM)
I think the time bomb Has explodeD !!

This is  a simple conman job here ...

Operation

Post few cheap bulk sales and people will start bank in money

Then to build up confidence he buy from retail shop and do delivery

Then more people start to bank in money , he then use this funds for maybe gambling , investment or whatever

So probably he lost heavily in gambling but no problem a lot people still funding his habits

When the mod step in to stop this new orders , he is stuck with no funds ...and he went to buy maybe few units from the retail shops to settle some AD HOC delivery and hope that people will start funding him again

and now ...the bomb as explode ..look at the huge amount of cash ...and sadly I believe he has lost most of them...

I believe a police report should be made if strongbaby do not issue any statement here ...don't wait too long
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OMG!..you are so right!! doh.gif

That story would go so well...in a Hollywood Movie! Plz don't jump to conclusions until you have some solid evidence. Lets at least keep this thread on the logical side shall we?
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http://bbs.lelong.com.my/bbs/showthread.php?threadid=35510
Someone claim strongbaby in lelong = usa



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QUOTE(shikuzika @ Dec 8 2007, 11:28 AM)
OMG!..you are so right!!  doh.gif

That story would go so well...in a Hollywood Movie! Plz don't jump to conclusions until you have some solid evidence. Lets at least keep this thread on the logical side shall we?
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if against this kind of report , he still don't reply ..then we know something is really wrong here and the truth cannot be far away

Many times big fraud such as this can be prevented but sadly most of the time people choose to hope things are still alright although it is quite clear what is happening in this case

Don't wait and act later , the amount is too huge for strongbaby to settle and he might just choose to disappear ..

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QUOTE(remeron @ Dec 8 2007, 02:20 PM)
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don't be so sure.. last time poweredge managed to cheat rm80k from here,

he doesn't not even needs to be disappeared, still live well. whistling.gif
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Pls add me on the refund list!
Kenny83 === 1 unit of psp slim and 4GB Memory === RM650 === RM650 === 29/10/2007

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add mine too....

superglwl....psp white.....rm500 console only........paid...29/oct/2007


Added on December 8, 2007, 10:39 pmThis thread is for buyers that are looking for refunds from Strongbaby AFTER waiting for MORE THAN 28 WORKING DAYS.

If you want to add your name to the list just copy and paste the list from the last post. The format should look like this:

your name === item === amount paid === balance owed === date of refund demand

Example:

John Smith === 100" LCD === RM5000 === RM5000 === 7/12/2007

Strongbaby than must refund the "Balance Owed" immediately. Note, should he refund through Interbank Giro remember there is a waiting period by both banks to clear money.

If you do not report back in the thread immediately after confirming the correct amount has been refunded you will be given a 7 day 'vaction' for your account.

1.) THT === List Below === RM20080 === RM20080
Pen Drive 2GB 50pcs - 1,880.00
Acer 17' Lcd Monitor 2unit - 960.00
Samsung 732n Plus 37Unit - 19,240.00
Samsung 206bw - 730.00
Samsung 931bw 4 Unit - 2,560.00
Acer 17' Lcd Monitor 5 Unit - 2,160.00
Samsung 931bw 2 unit - 1,240.00
Western Digitl 500gb 3 Unit - 1,110.00

2.) RangerRed === PSP Slim and 2GB Memory Card ==== RM550 === RM550 === 7/12/2007
3.) Dracoevo === NDSL + Samsung HDD 500GB + Samsung DVDRW === RM848 === RM848===8-12-07
4.) nagflar === MSI 8800 GT === 900 === 100 === 8-12-2007
5.) pr3dator === PSP Slim and 4GB Memory Card ==== RM800 === RM800 === 8/12/2007
6.)superglwl === PSP Slim === RM500 === RM500 === 29/10/2007

6.) Hyde`fK === List Below === RMRM4310 === RM3810 === 1/12/2007 (Waiting delivery of 1 PSP)
3x PSP Slim RM500 ea = RM1500
2x NDSL RM450 ea = RM900
2x PS2 RM400 ea = RM800
1x Xbox360 RM1110 ea = RM1110

7.) xiong91 === PSP Slim and 4GB Memory Card ==== RM670 === RM670 === 8/12/2007
8.) kelvinbaby === 1 unit of psp slim === RM500 === RM500 === 10/12/2007
9.) lchee === PSP slim and lite + 4GB memory package === RM800 === RM800 === 8/12/2007
10.) Kenny83 === 1 unit of psp slim and 4GB Memory === RM650 === RM650 === 29/10/2007
11.) Kenny83 === 1 unit of psp slim and 4GB Memory === RM650 === RM650 === 29/10/2007
12.)
13.)
14.)
15.)


Strongbaby's Details:

Ng Sze keat
ICNO: 770830145665
Add: Block 70-10-03 Sri Sabah Flat, Jalan Cheras, 56100 KL

Yellow Pages Msia info:
C-12-23A,Cemara Apartment,
Jalan Sri Permaisuri 3
56000, Bandar Sri Permaisuri,
Kuala Lumpur
Phone : 03-9173 8737

NOTE: Strongbaby do not bother posting anything in this thread. The only think you allowed to post is the details of the refunds. Other than that your other posts will be removed. Anyone posting stupid comments will get holiday from the forum. Anyone posting with smilies will get a holiday too. If you want to ask a question, use properly or at least understandable english.


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Reply post no.4

Kindly Refer to post no.4.

thank you



Added on December 8, 2007, 11:16 pm
QUOTE(heroes99 @ Dec 8 2007, 10:06 AM)
I think the time bomb Has explodeD !!

This is  a simple conman job here ...

Operation

Post few cheap bulk sales and people will start bank in money

Then to build up confidence he buy from retail shop and do delivery

Then more people start to bank in money , he then use this funds for maybe gambling , investment or whatever

So probably he lost heavily in gambling but no problem a lot people still funding his habits

When the mod step in to stop this new orders , he is stuck with no funds ...and he went to buy maybe few units from the retail shops to settle some AD HOC delivery and hope that people will start funding him again

and now ...the bomb as explode ..look at the huge amount of cash ...and sadly I believe he has lost most of them...

I believe a police report should be made if strongbaby do not issue any statement here ...don't wait too long
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oh hi heroes,

and yes, kindly continue to speculate as much as you like.

its often to see you appear in my almost sales thread long time ago with such remarks.

well you can lodge a report against me too if u want anything, but i will also get someone to issue you
a lawyer letter too.

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Then for present buyer, how long they have to wait ? You have problem with ur main supplier ??
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QUOTE(Kenny83 @ Dec 8 2007, 06:12 PM)
Pls add me on the refund list!
Kenny83 === 1 unit of psp slim and 4GB Memory === RM650 === RM650 === 29/10/2007
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friend,

you buy one unit and claim for 2 units ? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(strongbaby @ Dec 8 2007, 11:22 PM)
friend,

you buy one unit and claim for 2 units ?  hmm.gif
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i think they double post!i will let them know!
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Strongbaby bro, Your supplier gt problem is it ?? When is the next stock receiving time then ?
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Can u let us know when ur good will arrived?Anything happen out there?

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QUOTE(THT @ Dec 6 2007, 11:53 AM)
THIS IS ALL MY ORDER WAIT MORE THAN 28DAYS(LAST ORDER IS AUG 2007)
Pen Drive 2GB  50pcs         -   1,880.00 
Acer 17' Lcd Monitor 2unit  -      960.00 
Samsung 732n Plus 37Unit  -        19,240.00 
Samsung 206bw -           730.00 
Samsung 931bw 4 Unit  -          2,560.00 
Acer 17' Lcd Monitor 5 Unit  -          2,160.00 
Samsung 931bw 2 unit  -     1,240.00 
Western Digitl 500gb  3 Unit   -          1,110.00 
TOTAL IS RM29880 -
1.)26-10-2007 -   RM2000.00   (1st Refund)
2.)01-11-2007 - : RM1000.00    (2rd Refund)
3.)06-11-2007- RM1000.00    (2rd Refund)
4.)13-11-2007 - RM1500.00   (3th Refund)
5.)13-11-2007 - Rm500.00 (PSP)
6.)27-11-2007 - Rm500.00 (4th Refund)
7.)27-11-2007 - Rm3300.00 (Deduct Incentive)
Balance as of  today(07/12/07): RM20080
REFUND LIST

1.) THT  === REFER MY FIRST POST === RM20080 === RM20080 = = = AUG 2007
2.)
3.)
4.)
5.)
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that's nice refund number with this offline deal with you from THT aka JOELOH.
its better you re-calculate with the very last statement i email to you long time ago
for the number.

also congrats for reaping many thousands of profit out from me. thumbup.gif


Added on December 8, 2007, 11:30 pm
QUOTE(zeropulse @ Dec 8 2007, 11:25 PM)
Strongbaby bro, Your supplier gt problem is it ?? When is the next stock receiving time then ?
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there will be a short grace period i gave him otherwise ASP (police) will be move in.

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-Post Edited-

ASP or ASAP ??

Owh..ok..*cross fingerss*..How long is the grace period ? ohmy.gif

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eehtsitna === PSP Slim with 2gb MSPD package === Rm570.00 === Rm50.00 === 14/12/2007

I am one of those more fortunate buyer that was able to get the PSP Slim but the 2gb MSPD was not included for the delivery because it was not available. strongbaby promised to refund me for the missing MSPD.

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QUOTE(strongbaby @ Dec 7 2007, 04:37 PM)
keep it coming.
The Head (invisible) ---> Main Agent/Supplier (Negotiator) ---> Me (Agent/Supplier) ---> Sub Agents.

Normally i refer the main guy as a negotiator in getting hardware components goods/phone/console/etc/etc.
at cheap price and with his terms and conditions.
whatever buyer here see my terms and conditions, ETA, rules and regulations are instructed by my main.
thats the deal between me and him.

For Buyers (What options do you have to proceed from here if things really gone awful).
- You may file a police report against me.
- You may file a legal action against me.
- You may co-operate or join whatever solutions available at bottom here.

For Seller (Me myself have to take action and prepare for worst scenario in case).
- If any police report against me, then the police here will do the part as well to investigate my report i made ago against main.
- If any legal action against me, then i have to get my lawyer to reply in legal manner as well.
-

Overall Conclusion to buyers & seller.
A) If i have the intention to cheat or con you, i wont be sitting here replying (even though slow) to you
    or answering sms or phone calls. I will just off my phone and completely ignore all and be like the infamous guy once here.

B) Preparing for worst case scenario like during court hearing or no show up from Main agent, i will still be held responsible
    to do refund at my own expenses. (kindly check out the options avail below later).

C) By digging or fork out own expenses, by all means i still have to find income and project offline or online or
    borrow loan shark, loan from relatives (already tried), loan from friends, sell whatever items on hand avail and ETC.
    Also i have a family to feed and child to take care of and it will gonna be burdening.

D) Lastly, those buyers personally meet up with me before will judge itself whether i am con man or not.
    and why on earth i wanna put up myself in this kind of jeopardize tight situation. If people have the intention
    to hurt me by all means, then i am speechless and nothing to say but i will stand and remain responsible for all outcome
    and find solutions that is fair enough to both.

E)
Proposed Solutions Refund Policy (for deals in lowyat.net forum) or Goods.

A) Email your particulars with format shown below to refund@abizon.net
    - Full Name
    - Nickname in forum
    - Bank Information
    - Amount & Item involved

B)  Requested members of refunds will be compile and proposed refund policy have to draft out soon at own expenses.
FAQ:
How i met or find this kind of main agent/negotiater?
- Through some past business contact at some meeting long time ago.

How you deal with him?
- Everything upfront as usual like buyers paid me and i paid him via cash.
- Delivery of goods given by meet up at random location point around city or outskirt area.

What is the background profile of this Main Guy?
- As far as i heard he might has a big boss above or linkage to 'invisible' people which i believe.

How long you been dealing with him?
- 2 to 3 years i guess down the road.
Regards,
Strongbaby

P.S: if interested to have a police report copy, request from police with 08407 and pay them RM10.

To be continue again
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Brother. now. u are the seller and the forumers who bank in the money to you are ur customers.
u are responsible to "settle" with ur supplier/ agent/ or blah blah blah and reponsible to ur customers to refund becoz u can't get the stock becoz of ur blah blah blah reason/excuse.

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i'm sorry strongbaby,i'm going outstation the next few weeks,not sure when i'll be back.
and i need the the NDSL urgently,if i can't get it within the next week(before Wednesday),then please refund so i could buy it from somewhere else..

crossbone== 1 unit of nintendo ds lite(R4 pack)==RM450==28/12/2007


sorry mate.

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strongbaby, glad to see u finally came out and explain your problem. If u had done so earlier, things may not be this out of hand with a large number of buyers losing confidence in u.

RangerRed please add me to the refunds list, and I believe I should also furnish details to refund@abizon.net

zamanjaafar === 1 x MSI 8800GT OC === RM800 === RM800 === 11/12/2007

Once refunded, then no hard feelings.

added : note to strongbaby - email already sent to refund@abizon.net, pls check

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QUOTE(strongbaby @ Dec 8 2007, 11:10 PM)
Reply post no.4

Kindly Refer to post no.4.

thank you



Added on December 8, 2007, 11:16 pm

oh hi heroes,

and yes, kindly continue to speculate as much as you like.

its often to see you appear in my almost sales thread long time ago with such remarks.

well you can lodge a report against me too if u want anything, but i will also get someone to issue you
a lawyer letter too.
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alright finally you have appear to respond and my task is complete

Now please clean your mess here and don't blame everything on the so "called" main guy ( I wonder he really exist ) and refund those hard earn cash to members here -

cash all bank into your account ...and you have to deliver ...who cares where you got your stock from ....if you cannot deliver then just refund ....don't blame here and there ...you can tell your long story , blah . blah ..but at the end just do one thing deliver or refund

and nice excuse there , " giving the main guy grace period " ....so another few months for you I guess , you should refund NOW with whatever money you have and not just keep on dragging



Thank you very much , ranger , for starting this thread or else I think we will be keep in dark

forever ...

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QUOTE(strongbaby @ Dec 7 2007, 05:37 PM)
keep it coming.
The Head (invisible) ---> Main Agent/Supplier (Negotiator) ---> Me (Agent/Supplier) ---> Sub Agents.

Normally i refer the main guy as a negotiator in getting hardware components goods/phone/console/etc/etc.
at cheap price and with his terms and conditions.
whatever buyer here see my terms and conditions, ETA, rules and regulations are instructed by my main.
thats the deal between me and him.

For Buyers (What options do you have to proceed from here if things really gone awful).
- You may file a police report against me.
- You may file a legal action against me.
- You may co-operate or join whatever solutions available at bottom here.

For Seller (Me myself have to take action and prepare for worst scenario in case).
- If any police report against me, then the police here will do the part as well to investigate my report i made ago against main.
- If any legal action against me, then i have to get my lawyer to reply in legal manner as well.
-

Overall Conclusion to buyers & seller.
A) If i have the intention to cheat or con you, i wont be sitting here replying (even though slow) to you
     or answering sms or phone calls. I will just off my phone and completely ignore all and be like the infamous guy once here.

B) Preparing for worst case scenario like during court hearing or no show up from Main agent, i will still be held responsible
    to do refund at my own expenses. (kindly check out the options avail below later).

C) By digging or fork out own expenses, by all means i still have to find income and project offline or online or
    borrow loan shark, loan from relatives (already tried), loan from friends, sell whatever items on hand avail and ETC.
    Also i have a family to feed and child to take care of and it will gonna be burdening.

D) Lastly, those buyers personally meet up with me before will judge itself whether i am con man or not.
    and why on earth i wanna put up myself in this kind of jeopardize tight situation. If people have the intention
    to hurt me by all means, then i am speechless and nothing to say but i will stand and remain responsible for all outcome
    and find solutions that is fair enough to both.

E)
Proposed Solutions Refund Policy (for deals in lowyat.net forum) or Goods.

A) Email your particulars with format shown below to refund@abizon.net
     - Full Name
     - Nickname in forum
     - Bank Information
     - Amount & Item involved

B)  Requested members of refunds will be compile and proposed refund policy have to draft out soon at own expenses.
FAQ:
How i met or find this kind of main agent/negotiater?
- Through some past business contact at some meeting long time ago.

How you deal with him?
- Everything upfront as usual like buyers paid me and i paid him via cash.
- Delivery of goods given by meet up at random location point around city or outskirt area.

What is the background profile of this Main Guy?
- As far as i heard he might has a big boss above or linkage to 'invisible' people which i believe.

How long you been dealing with him?
- 2 to 3 years i guess down the road.
Regards,
Strongbaby

P.S: if interested to have a police report copy, request from police with 08407 and pay them RM10.

To be continue again
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a very good excuses indeed. mandarine saids, 一流的理由 rclxms.gif

but,

the longer you sell local distributed product at YOUR price, then
the higher chance to get lawyer letter from distributors cool2.gif (i think)

Edit + p/s : I'm not that distributor, jus i knows ppl in distribution compy . just to clerify icon_rolleyes.gif

This post has been edited by storm88: Dec 9 2007, 09:22 AM
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QUOTE(heroes99 @ Dec 9 2007, 08:15 AM)
alright finally you have appear to respond and my task is complete 

Now please clean your mess here and don't blame everything on the so "called" main guy ( I wonder he really exist ) and  refund those hard earn cash to members here -

cash all bank into your account ...and you have to deliver ...who cares where you got your stock from ....if you cannot deliver then just refund ....don't blame here and there ...you can tell your long story , blah . blah ..but at the end just do one thing deliver or refund

and nice excuse there , " giving the main guy grace period " ....so another few months for you I guess , you should refund NOW with whatever money you have and not just keep on dragging
Thank you very much , ranger , for starting this thread or else I think we will be keep in dark

forever ...
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LOL..ur task?..Oh ic, you're a hero!

Before making anymore accusations based on hear-say and (sometimes crazy) theories, could someone please come up with more evidence? For instance, check out that police report he posted up. If you're losing thousands in the deal, I'm sure RM10 is not too much to help clarify matters right?

I also have 2 pending orders that I'm waiting for but I'm not jumping to conclusions. I've dealt with him several times before over the past year or so and he has delivered every time. He was even on time for a few of them. That is why I decided to deal with him again since I'm sure most people would agree that he offers the lowest prices albeit being rather slow. Maybe this time he has bitten off more than he can chew.

So whatever it is, I do hope it gets sorted out fast as the last 2 orders I made was on behalf of my sister and my friend.

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QUOTE(storm88 @ Dec 9 2007, 08:30 AM)
a very good excuses indeed. mandarine saids, 一流的理由 rclxms.gif

but,

the longer you sell local distributed product at YOUR price, then
the higher chance to get lawyer letter from distributors cool2.gif (i think)

Edit + p/s : I'm not that distributor, jus i knows ppl in distribution compy . just to clerify  icon_rolleyes.gif
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nice one, but i do think that local distributor could not sue him for selling anything at his own price as there is no black and white for them
and indeed he can claim that those items were sold to cover his lost [means lets say he bought 100 units at rm550 den out od sudden he needs money and sold all at rm 500 so using thisreason aso can declare i guess]

juz my two cents, not trying to offend any parties
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vxeon === 1 unit of PSP Slim Package (Console Only) === RM500 === RM500 === 9/12/2007

Thx for the help.

added : E-mail sent to refund@abizon.net, pls check

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Hi, i suggest when mail the refund info we also state our order/payment date so strongbaby will know who to settle first.

IMHO, for now rather than guessing & flaming here why not we co-operate and get things going.
The truth is important but the solution is more so!

And my info

EDK== 1 unit of Samsung 226BW==RM999==27/08/2007

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QUOTE(expantyhoesthief @ Dec 9 2007, 11:12 AM)
nice one, but i do think that local distributor could not sue him for selling anything at his own price as there is no black and white for them
and indeed he can claim that those items were sold to cover his lost [means lets say he bought 100 units at rm550 den out od sudden he needs money and sold all at rm 500 so using thisreason aso can declare i guess]

juz my two cents, not trying to offend any parties
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watever la.
There are law of trades which to protect the market.
jus see the related ppl want to act anot only.

Btw, we are not the ppl who involve, lets stop here. icon_rolleyes.gif
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So everyone you heard it right?

Strongbaby will refund as soon as you email him your details at refund@abizon.net following this format:

Full Name
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Bank Information
Amount & Item involved

There should be no excuses from Strongbaby... I will add === Emailed Info at the end of the 'date of refund demand' so post here when you have email him the info.


Added on December 9, 2007, 12:46 pmNote: that i had to check my spam filter to find Strongbaby's emails so you should check your's too.

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remeron === samsung 226bw === RM1029 === RM1029 = = = Dec 9 2007

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Already sent email to Strongbaby's email requesting for RM 800 refund for PSP slim and lite with 4GB MSPD package. This would be a full refund rite? Hope Strongbaby would feedback on this personally rather than any more last minute suprises.
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cookie3184 === 1 X ndsl === RM450 === RM450 = = = 9 Dec 2007

Sorry, I needed to get the product for my friend's bday...Really need to get the money back to buy another ndsl.

Tq
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Email send as the format as strongbaby mention. Please update me on the list.

Thank!

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redranger,email sent as teh format too
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QUOTE(zx12 @ Dec 9 2007, 09:52 AM)
LOL..ur task?..Oh ic, you're a hero!

Before making anymore accusations based on hear-say and (sometimes crazy) theories, could someone please come up with more evidence? For instance, check out that police report he posted up. If you're losing thousands in the deal, I'm sure RM10 is not too much to help clarify matters right?

I also have 2 pending orders that I'm waiting for but I'm not jumping to conclusions. I've dealt with him several times before over the past year or so and he has delivered every time. He was even on time for a few of them. That is why I decided to deal with him again since I'm sure most people would agree that he offers the lowest prices albeit being rather slow. Maybe this time he has bitten off more than he can chew.

So whatever it is, I do hope it gets sorted out fast as the last 2 orders I made was on behalf of my sister and my friend.
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these accusations that manage to bring strongbaby to respond , if such post were not there . you think he will bother to respond at all ,

he has been keeping quite , though so many has complain of stocks not deliver

he don't even bother to say anything....is that a right attitude ?

been on time for few times with you does not grant him the power to take those hard earn cash and don't bother to inform and keep eveyone in the dark

he only start to reposnd after all accusations is up ...

I am glad I posted those post and this will be my final post as my only intention is to get strongbay to respond

Good luck to all the refunds , and strongbaby for god sake , please keep your promise on the refunds

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email send. thx
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emailed strongbaby and also notified him thru sms.

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Hi there , baby , i support u, and dnt sad coz many buyers no believe in you. I will wait you. Hope receive psp soon.
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I have already sent an email earlier to refund@abizon.net according to specified format. Hope to receive my refund soon as I really need the money.
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i was considering getting a 8800GT card till i bump into this thread... will follow the updates....

i was really this -> <- close to buy...

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QUOTE(kevyeoh @ Dec 9 2007, 10:00 PM)
i was considering getting a 8800GT card till i bump into this thread... will follow the updates....

i was really this -> <- close to buy...
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i ever deal with him b4, no problem oso blush.gif
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my spot in the psp buying list......is been taken over by mikijason....so noneed to refund anything to me...thank you
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strongbaby is a fence is it? meeting the supplier in various places in KL and dealing with cash? Is that why need to wait so long?

Strongbaby - can i put my name on the refund list as well seeing as it looks like you won't be getting the stock anytime soon? I probably can't get the item (NDSL) before christmas right?
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QUOTE(strongbaby @ Dec 8 2007, 11:10 PM)
Reply post no.4

Kindly Refer to post no.4.

thank you



Added on December 8, 2007, 11:16 pm

oh hi heroes,

and yes, kindly continue to speculate as much as you like.

its often to see you appear in my almost sales thread long time ago with such remarks.

well you can lodge a report against me too if u want anything, but i will also get someone to issue you
a lawyer letter too.
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Please disclose your supplier's full detail (IF there is really "any")

Frankly speaking, no stock? Just refund your clients. Where those $$ gone? Mind telling?

Interesting Thread Though



QUOTE(zhen^wei @ Dec 9 2007, 12:30 AM)
Brother. now. u are the seller and the forumers who bank in the money to you are ur customers.
u are responsible to "settle" with ur supplier/ agent/ or blah blah blah and reponsible to ur customers to refund becoz u can't get the stock becoz of ur blah blah blah reason/excuse.
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haha your statement reminds me few years ago when I was noob and kena con by suppliers (Well the tactic same like what was described by heroes99 in previous post), buyers brought parang to warn me immediately once they heard I paid the $$ to supplier already and he went missing. smile.gif BUT MY HONESTY AND SINCERITY did help me to recover back from the disaster and I DID USE MY OWN $$$ + BORROWED $$$ to pay back buyers immediately, that's the BEST SOLUTION TO CLEAR THE DOUBT + PROTECT YOUR REPUTATION. tongue.gif

Let's wait and see how strongbaby will settle the problem. blush.gif


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QUOTE(Austin @ Dec 10 2007, 12:09 AM)
check the date.. it's more than a year ago..

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QUOTE(kevyeoh @ Dec 9 2007, 10:00 PM)
i was considering getting a 8800GT card till i bump into this thread... will follow the updates....

i was really this -> <- close to buy...
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lol last time i also close to buy a mobo and hdd from him....very tempted with his offer but finally i decided to get local store price...i feel safer that way...y? cuz i read his toc abt he is very slow in dealing...and also he is dealing with so many bulks...slow + many bulks...how the hell can i really wait for my stuff to come? btw good luck for all the buyers to get back their refunds.
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Strongbaby, please add me to the refund list if my item (NDSL) can't be sent on the 14th ( 15 working days excluding weekends ).

klmc - ndsl - $400
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mind letting all of us know if anybody received his/her refund already?

it's good to keep track of the progress...
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REFUND EMAIL SENT JZ NOW...


Added on December 10, 2007, 11:29 am
QUOTE(strongbaby @ Dec 8 2007, 11:28 PM)
that's nice refund number with this offline deal with you from THT aka JOELOH.
its better you re-calculate with the very last statement i email to you long time ago
for the number. 

also congrats for reaping many thousands of profit out from me.  thumbup.gif


Added on December 8, 2007, 11:30 pm
there will be a short grace period i gave him otherwise ASP (police) will be move in.
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I told u many time to calculate the actually amt to me ..i can accept if the amt is reasonable.

YUP,I Hv another LYN nickname is "JOELOH"

anyway i nothing to say here . my last order is aug 2007.finanlly thx u gv me the chance to earn more $ and gv me in darkness aslo



THX A LOT ...STRONGBABY

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EDK== 1 unit of Samsung 226BW==RM999==27/08/2007
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My reason for refund is strictly personal, I still trust strbaby despite numerous accusations.
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I just emailed Strongbaby asking him to give me a status report on who he has refunded (if any) and dates for those that he going to refund in order of the refund list. Of course, apologies to THT should he skip you for the time being since your amount is huge but I told him to make sure you have high priority not just forget about you.
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i already email to strongbaby . pls update . thx
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QUOTE(RangerRed @ Dec 10 2007, 04:58 PM)
I just emailed Strongbaby asking him to give me a status report on who he has refunded (if any) and dates for those that he going to refund in order of the refund list. Of course, apologies to THT should he skip you for the time being since your amount is huge but I told him to make sure you have high priority not just forget about you.
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when can get the refund? . hope can get back it asap .

PLS Update me the refund status ...thx

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QUOTE(RangerRed @ Dec 10 2007, 04:58 PM)
I just emailed Strongbaby asking him to give me a status report on who he has refunded (if any) and dates for those that he going to refund in order of the refund list. Of course, apologies to THT should he skip you for the time being since your amount is huge but I told him to make sure you have high priority not just forget about you.
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To be fair for all shouldn't Strongbaby refund in order of the payment date instead of the order on this list?
Also i see ppl who have not yet waited for MORE THAN 28 WORKING DAYS is in the list as well?
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QUOTE(heroes99 @ Dec 9 2007, 08:15 AM)
alright finally you have appear to respond and my task is complete 

Now please clean your mess here and don't blame everything on the so "called" main guy ( I wonder he really exist ) and  refund those hard earn cash to members here -

cash all bank into your account ...and you have to deliver ...who cares where you got your stock from ....if you cannot deliver then just refund ....don't blame here and there ...you can tell your long story , blah . blah ..but at the end just do one thing deliver or refund

and nice excuse there , " giving the main guy grace period " ....so another few months for you I guess , you should refund NOW with whatever money you have and not just keep on dragging
Thank you very much , ranger , for starting this thread or else I think we will be keep in dark

forever ...
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QUOTE(Austin @ Dec 10 2007, 12:09 AM)
Please disclose your supplier's full detail (IF there is really "any")

Frankly speaking, no stock? Just refund your clients. Where those $$ gone? Mind telling?

Interesting Thread Though


haha your statement reminds me few years ago when I was noob and kena con by suppliers (Well the tactic same like what was described by heroes99 in previous post), buyers brought parang to warn me immediately once they heard I paid the $$ to supplier already and he went missing. smile.gif BUT MY HONESTY AND SINCERITY did help me to recover back from the disaster and I DID USE MY OWN $$$ + BORROWED $$$ to pay back buyers immediately, that's the BEST SOLUTION TO CLEAR THE DOUBT + PROTECT YOUR REPUTATION.  tongue.gif

Let's wait and see how strongbaby will settle the problem.  blush.gif

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settle will settle, its really gonna take time. i am not ATM and i dont print money myself.


QUOTE(local_machine @ Dec 10 2007, 10:51 AM)
mind letting all of us know if anybody received his/her refund already?

it's good to keep track of the progress...
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those emailed me, you will receive an acknowledge reply from me stated received your email particulars.

at meantime receiving and compiling refunds info and same time have to dig out own money or borrow at own expenses.

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Name the ppl on the list that are not more than 28 working days... i'll move them lower down.... those of you that havent waited more than 28 working days... don't complain... read 1st post again.

EDK we will follow my list... there be no 'but on your list i'm number A and on Strongbaby's list i'm B nonsense'. Those that were first to ask for an official refund gets their's first. Simple as that.

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QUOTE(swantonng @ Dec 10 2007, 04:38 PM)
swantonng ===PSP 4GB Package=== RM 800 === RM800 === 12/12/2007  | PAID on 31st Oct, receipt still with me

Have Emailed to strbaby  cool2.gif

My reason for refund is strictly personal, I still trust strbaby despite numerous accusations.
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dunno what happen to people nowadays, talk about trust.... (not referring to you).

Like someone told me:

People will praise and look at you like saint when you are good

and will flame and stab you to deep when you are not.

thats reality in human.

humans is ugly but God is beauty.

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As long as the diminished returns. ie Money lost returns.
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Have received acknowledgement from Strongbaby as of today in the afternoon. Hope you manage to get stuff sorted out on your side there!

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mind to tell where all those money has gone? after ppl bank in to ur acc.... the money should be in ur acc..... unless this is a scam where u wana use the money personally for other stuff and when ppl is asking for refund u just said u are not a printing machine?
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why 28 days? Isn't it after 14 days?
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QUOTE(chicaman @ Dec 10 2007, 08:30 PM)
mind to tell where all those money has gone? after ppl bank in to ur acc.... the money should be in ur acc..... unless this is a scam where u wana use the money personally for other stuff and when ppl is asking for refund u just said u are not a printing machine?
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that was what i was wondering too.....

luckly someone took over my spot....if not...wait 1 month plus for psp...then wait 1 month plus for refund.
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QUOTE(chicaman @ Dec 10 2007, 08:30 PM)
mind to tell where all those money has gone? after ppl bank in to ur acc.... the money should be in ur acc..... unless this is a scam where u wana use the money personally for other stuff and when ppl is asking for refund u just said u are not a printing machine?
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didn't he explained it already?

He used it to buy the items from the supplier,so he is almost in the same situation as the stranded buyers.
Paid for the items,but supplier failed to deliver.

for refunds,he had to fork out his own money at the moment,as all the money he gave it to the supplier.

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Crossbones, whatever the case is money was to be exchanged for goods. Since there are no goods, you can give all the excuses for him but it still remains the same. He took money and has yet given good the majority of buyers waiting past the 14 working days.

As for asking about the 28 working days period. It's simple, 28 working is double the T&C 14 working days. That means we gave him a fighting chance and he lost. So refunds are in order.
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heng84 === bundleditems listbelow ==== RM2060 === RM850 === 10/12/2007=== Emailed To Strongbaby

have emailed refund@abizon.net
my cleared items zotac gt amp 8800, 320 seagate hdd, asus dvdrw
not yet cleared items : intel q6600 g0 stepping
total paid for all items: 2060 balance 850
paid since 5th of october

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Strongbaby, dates for refunds on the list. Reply by today.
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WHO already get the refund pls update ???? why take so long to refund ?????!!!
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WHO already get the refund pls update ???? why take so long to refund ?????!!!
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According to strongbaby, his money is hold by his supplier. And he need to borrow money or other way to refund your money. That's why it takes so long.
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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Dec 11 2007, 12:57 PM)
According to strongbaby, his money is hold by his supplier. And he need to borrow money or other way to refund your money. That's why it takes so long.
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gg liao la . like this . cry.gif
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gg liao la . like this . cry.gif
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why say so??? blink.gif At least strongbaby didn't go MIA ma.
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Poor strongbaby....used to be a good seller...may be he shouldn't started so many bulk and just concentre on 1 or 2 bulks.
Hope you guys get your refunds soon.
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The order of the list, issit in order of who post for refund? or who bought from strongbaby first?
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QUOTE(jerdude @ Dec 11 2007, 04:10 PM)
The order of the list, issit in order of who post for refund? or who bought from strongbaby first?
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of course start from people who ask for refund first. if u dun ask for refund,
why want to refund you first right?
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The order of the list, issit in order of who post for refund? or who bought from strongbaby first?
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Name the ppl on the list that are not more than 28 working days... i'll move them lower down.... those of you that havent waited more than 28 working days... don't complain... read 1st post again.

EDK we will follow my list... there be no 'but on your list i'm number A and on Strongbaby's list i'm B nonsense'. Those that were first to ask for an official refund gets their's first. Simple as that.
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QUOTE(metalfreak @ Dec 11 2007, 03:45 PM)
Poor strongbaby....used to be a good seller...may be he shouldn't started so many bulk and just concentre on 1 or 2 bulks.
Hope you guys get your refunds soon.
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yep poor strongbaby.. he helps u people go get cheap things, now he have problem with his suppliers... everyone wants to pull out.
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Email sent to refund@abizon.net
PS: No need refund the LCD if send by this or next week. Strongbaby you know what I mean.

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QUOTE(tsd @ Dec 11 2007, 05:27 PM)
yep poor strongbaby.. he helps u people go get cheap things, now he have problem with his suppliers... everyone wants to pull out.
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Unless his supplier turns up and it will be a new morning, but i really felt pity for him, a good family guy and a seller met his nightmare, May God bless him smile.gif

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Unless his supplier turns up and it will be a new morning, but i really felt pity for him, a good family guy and a seller met his nightmare, May God bless him smile.gif
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A bit too sarcastic for comfort though, and really slow in replying. If he actually replies and updates us more often, I think it wouldn't come to this.
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QUOTE(jerdude @ Dec 11 2007, 06:04 PM)
A bit too sarcastic for comfort though, and really slow in replying. If he actually replies and updates us more often, I think it wouldn't come to this.
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thats one problem of it, sad.gif ...................but..................at least he is not totally running away. Im a buyer too.....i noe how u guys felt as i do. But that hasn't stop me at all. Cause i still had some confidence.
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Its nearly 9pm.... show some damn courtesy and reply to this thread the update of the dates of the refunds.
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QUOTE(Renginez @ Dec 11 2007, 06:09 PM)
thats one problem of it,  sad.gif ...................but..................at least he is not totally running away. Im a buyer too.....i noe how u guys felt as i do. But that hasn't stop me at all. Cause i still had some confidence.
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today he din reply my sms either, just my 2cent mayb today is a holiday, perhaps tomoro he will reply to the thread n sms.
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QUOTE(RangerRed @ Dec 11 2007, 08:53 PM)
Its nearly 9pm.... show some damn courtesy and reply to this thread the update of the dates of the refunds.
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Wow he just replied yesterday and it is obviously going to take some time to get the funds out. You notice the first item on your self proclaimed "must refund first" post is worth 20k.

Unless you all would prefer he spend all his time sitting down to reply all your SMSes and posting messages on this forum.

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reply sms waste more money...since he already reply...give him time la guys...

or else push like that also no use...

but so many ppl want refund...so can't help it...everyday sure got ppl sms...

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Just had a sms chat with him. He's really trying hard to get money.. So to those who still think he's gonna run away, rest assured. Now, it's just the matter of time before getting your refunds back. I've dealed with scammers, and strongbaby ain't one.

For strongbaby supporters, we ain't his fanboys. We're just here to help him out. Every businessman has his downtime.. Remember s[H]sIkuA's case? He's refunding as we speak.

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if this drags on longer, strongbaby will eventually get away with it. Serious actions should be taken by now to enforce written policies about refunding. Has anyone met up with him yet?

QUOTE(jerdude @ Dec 11 2007, 11:01 PM)
Just had a sms chat with him. He's really trying hard to get money..

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People have to work so hard for their money.. and just to lose it to someone for NOTHING..

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QUOTE(jerdude @ Dec 11 2007, 11:01 PM)
Just had a sms chat with him. He's really trying hard to get money.. So to those who still think he's gonna run away, rest assured. Now, it's just the matter of time before getting your refunds back. I've dealed with scammers, and strongbaby ain't one.

For strongbaby supporters, we ain't his fanboys. We're just here to help him out. Every businessman has his downtime.. Remember s[H]sIkuA's case? He's refunding as we speak.
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Yea..Refund is for the ones that asked for refund.

But what about us? The ones that are still waiting ? Strongbaby did not tell us how long we have to wait either.

If there really is no more hope to get the item, might as well refund us all right? But now it's like, there is still a chance, and if we keep on waiting, for how long are we going to wait some more ? Morning till night keep checking forum got reply or not..Everyday waiting for strongbaby to update. It's miserable. cry.gif


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no offence but i just dont like people giving FALSE HOPE to those who are in utter desperation for their money..

why not u guys meet up and go over to his house and discuss the problem? everyone can get a good night's sleep after tat..
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QUOTE(adrianj @ Dec 11 2007, 11:21 PM)
no offence but i just dont like people giving FALSE HOPE to those who are in utter desperation for their money..

why not u guys meet up and go over to his house and discuss the problem? everyone can get a good night's sleep after tat..
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lol u are out of situation.. and please..this is not the thread for discussing.. is onli for refunding..
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Its not like strongbaby is facing long term loss.

According to his situation, the money is already at distro side(he calls it main)and he said that he made police report. Now he is just trying to get money from various sources to refund us. I really believe if his story is true , then sooner or later AFTER refunding us he will get the equivalent amount of money from the distro thus there should be no or little losses. He should know the identity of his distributor bcoz that is an important info in the report. If the identity of the distro is known, most likely this will resolve in strongbaby's favour.

I understand why some of u r still putting hopes on strongbaby delivering. But personally, I think for the long term. As cheap as his goods are, his after sales service will gonna be worse if not bad as his post-payment actions. Some of u wait for almost 3 months, get your sms-es, your YMs, your posts ignored. Getting updates once a week and when it comes its not even an update but a combination of vague/sarcastic remarks. Now imagine your precious PSP/GFX/DVDRW spoilt within warranty and u r supposed to get it settled through him. Imagine that. Or worse if it comes to u DOA. U want to restart the 14 days+++ ETA cycle?

If not for RangerRed(thanks, man) and some of us who raised a ruckus in his threads do u really believe that we would know the current situation and have an option to get our money back? Do u really believe strongbaby will provide an explanation since the term s '14 days', 'very slow seller' and 'no fussy/paranoid buyers' are supposed to(and for a few already has) shut us up?


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i believe that he is a genuine seller, hes having difficulty but.. he should answer exactly what we asked. everytime i ask him maybe like 3 question, he will answer all but will skip the question if you ask him when will we get our items. and sometimes dont even reply, when i havent purchase from him... i did enquiries he answer me promptly and every sms i sent he reply, but when 14 working days reached i need to sms/pm him at least 3-4times only he will reply, this is which most people dont like it.

but now i hope everything will be sorted out smoothly,
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this issue is quite similar to skyhobby's issue at lelong...

hope everyone will get refund soon....
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i would like to request for strongbaby working schedule(jz simple one...monday work A,tuesday work B)...what thg's make him so busy?its a question for me...even one day cant complete one task?since strongbaby say my psp has in hand...but about 4 week havent send...unless he has no stock keeping...send psp=refund...u wish me request refund with u strongbaby?and loan with other?
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QUOTE(zamanjaafar @ Dec 12 2007, 12:43 AM)
Its not like strongbaby is facing long term loss.

According to his situation, the money is already at distro side(he calls it main)and he said that he made police report.  Now he is just trying to get money from various sources to refund us.  I really believe if his story is true , then sooner or later AFTER refunding us he will get the equivalent amount of money from the distro thus there should be no or little losses.  He should know the identity of his distributor bcoz that is an important info in the report.  If the identity of the distro is known, most likely this will resolve in strongbaby's favour.

I understand why some of u r still putting hopes on strongbaby delivering.  But personally, I think for the long term.  As cheap as his goods are, his after sales service will gonna be worse if not bad as his post-payment actions.  Some of u wait for almost 3 months, get your sms-es, your YMs, your posts ignored.  Getting updates once a week and when it comes its not even an update but a combination of vague/sarcastic remarks.  Now imagine your precious PSP/GFX/DVDRW spoilt within warranty and u r supposed to get it settled through him.  Imagine that.  Or worse if it comes to u DOA.  U want to restart the 14 days+++ ETA cycle?

If not for RangerRed(thanks, man) and some of us who raised a ruckus in his threads do u really believe that we would know the current situation and have an option to get our money back?  Do u really believe strongbaby will provide an explanation since the term s '14 days', 'very slow seller' and 'no fussy/paranoid buyers' are supposed to(and for a few already has) shut us up?
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blink.gif he made police report?? means the supplier run away means we cannot get our item ?? explain clearly pls...dont scare we pending buyer unsure.gif
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QUOTE(kevinwcw @ Dec 12 2007, 11:40 AM)
blink.gif he made police report?? means the supplier run away means we cannot get our item ?? explain clearly pls...dont scare we pending buyer unsure.gif
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dude..read strongbaby's post la..he stated clearly he has made a police report..even gave the report number..feel free to check it out..
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ei...RangerRed bro,

no add me into the list 1? Mind adding?
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oic...then given the projected dateline only add me in ba...
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QUOTE(zamanjaafar @ Dec 12 2007, 12:43 AM)
I understand why some of u r still putting hopes on strongbaby delivering.  But personally, I think for the long term.  As cheap as his goods are, his after sales service will gonna be worse if not bad as his post-payment actions.  Some of u wait for almost 3 months, get your sms-es, your YMs, your posts ignored.  Getting updates once a week and when it comes its not even an update but a combination of vague/sarcastic remarks.  Now imagine your precious PSP/GFX/DVDRW spoilt within warranty and u r supposed to get it settled through him.  Imagine that.  Or worse if it comes to u DOA.  U want to restart the 14 days+++ ETA cycle?

If not for RangerRed(thanks, man) and some of us who raised a ruckus in his threads do u really believe that we would know the current situation and have an option to get our money back?  Do u really believe strongbaby will provide an explanation since the term s '14 days', 'very slow seller' and 'no fussy/paranoid buyers' are supposed to(and for a few already has) shut us up?
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Well said in my opinion.as super slow when buying,it's be far more worse when doing warranty issues.
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i hope there's still something to cling on to.

i still have a NDSL (RM400) that i banked in already. waiting
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QUOTE(kevinwcw @ Dec 12 2007, 11:40 AM)
blink.gif he made police report?? means the supplier run away means we cannot get our item ?? explain clearly pls...dont scare we pending buyer unsure.gif
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and for rm10, u can even have not only his word for it, u can have a copy of the police report! Courtesy of our very own PDRM.

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=14557077

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Will I get full refund or just a portion of the refund?
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what's wrong with strongbaby ....:S why takes so long to send a stock but i think he/she has a reason ?
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what's wrong with strongbaby ....:S why takes so long to send a stock but i think he/she has a reason ?
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read la from the 1st post..u will find the reason there..
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Guys, I think what's best is those who lives nearby can talk face to face with strongbaby and maybe work together to catch that damn culprit down.
After all, that's OUR money we're talking about.
Just my 2 cents.

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Guys, I think what's best is those who lives nearby can talk face to face with strongbaby and maybe work together to catch that damn culprit down.
After all, that's OUR money we're talking about.
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Well..as strongbaby said..They have been dealing 2-3 years down the road..So..wonder what happened..

Strongbaby still doesn't want to give us a confirmation whether we will or will not receive the goods.. rclxub.gif

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Well..as strongbaby said..They have been dealing 2-3 years down the road..So..wonder what happened..

Strongbaby still doesn't want to give us a confirmation whether we will or will not receive the goods.. rclxub.gif
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he told me status is still unknown..can't find the supplier?..no supplier how to supply the goods?
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he told me status is still unknown..can't find the supplier?..no supplier how to supply the goods?
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but seems like the main run from him mah
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So anybody has really go check the police report made by strongbaby? i just want to know if really i can get my psp if keep waiting, or just being ignored coz no willing asking for refund. Sms and forum post never get any reply from strongbaby. Only one time i got receive feedback from him is asking bankin detail at the very beginning... Buying from him really challange my patient.. Check for 3-4 times everyday for 2 months, and just being ignored whenever ask something.....
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if strongbaby can't refund the whole amount in one go,at least pay partially monthly or every few feeks like s[H]sIkuA did.

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he told me status is still unknown..can't find the supplier?..no supplier how to supply the goods?
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that doesn't sound nice doh.gif
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nothing to say ... just hope strongbaby can settle it

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QUOTE(ahming888 @ Dec 13 2007, 07:47 AM)
So anybody has really go check the police report made by strongbaby? i just want to know if really i can get my psp if keep waiting, or just being ignored coz no willing asking for refund. Sms and forum post never get any reply from strongbaby. Only one time i got receive feedback from him is asking bankin detail at the very beginning... Buying from him really challange my patient.. Check for 3-4 times everyday for 2 months, and just being ignored whenever ask something.....
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From the look of it, you might be the last one who is going to be refunded. hmm.gif
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notice : If can get stock is better refund money back to me
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QUOTE(ahming888 @ Dec 13 2007, 07:47 AM)
So anybody has really go check the police report made by strongbaby? i just want to know if really i can get my psp if keep waiting, or just being ignored coz no willing asking for refund. Sms and forum post never get any reply from strongbaby. Only one time i got receive feedback from him is asking bankin detail at the very beginning... Buying from him really challange my patient.. Check for 3-4 times everyday for 2 months, and just being ignored whenever ask something.....
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thats very sad... doh.gif
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just now i made a roughly calculation, the total nomber already hit 47K!!! and it keep on growing now ~
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just now i made a roughly calculation, the total nomber already hit 47K!!! and it keep on growing now ~
walao ... going to break PE record liao.
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Our best friend Mr. Conman must be enjoying his holidays right now with our RM47K.
Maybe he's gone off gambling to Las Vegas or something.

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QUOTE(ahming888 @ Dec 13 2007, 07:47 AM)
So anybody has really go check the police report made by strongbaby? i just want to know if really i can get my psp if keep waiting, or just being ignored coz no willing asking for refund. Sms and forum post never get any reply from strongbaby. Only one time i got receive feedback from him is asking bankin detail at the very beginning... Buying from him really challange my patient.. Check for 3-4 times everyday for 2 months, and just being ignored whenever ask something.....
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Same here... no reply if i send pm or sms but i give him time until christmas before i'm asking for refund also... if refund also take a long time for him then it is time to buy a machete bruce.gif



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QUOTE(Balmung @ Dec 13 2007, 02:34 PM)
Our best friend Mr. Conman must be enjoying his holidays right now with our RM47K.
Maybe he's gone off gambling to Las Vegas or something.
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Refrain yourself from accusing SB is a conman. There's no solid proof to that. From what I can see now, SB said unknown status for the stock arrival is because the shipment has not reach M'sia shore, and who knows what will delay the shipment. A sea storm is worse enough. If stock are to arrive, there's also no guarantee there will be enough stock as distribution across whole nation have to be considered as well. Just pray for the best outcome. I also urgently need the refund back as my friend is pushing me to the limit.
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QUOTE(Hyde`fK @ Dec 13 2007, 04:27 PM)
Refrain yourself from accusing SB is a conman. There's no solid proof to that. From what I can see now, SB said unknown status for the stock arrival is because the shipment has not reach M'sia shore, and who knows what will delay the shipment. A sea storm is worse enough. If stock are to arrive, there's also no guarantee there will be enough stock as distribution across whole nation have to be considered as well. Just pray for the best outcome. I also urgently need the refund back as my friend is pushing me to the limit.
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erm.. not going to spread the salt on the wound on ya all
but, i dont really think the hope will come true.

btw, good luck guys. mayb the stock really come wink.gif
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QUOTE(Hyde`fK @ Dec 13 2007, 03:27 PM)
Refrain yourself from accusing SB is a conman. There's no solid proof to that. From what I can see now, SB said unknown status for the stock arrival is because the shipment has not reach M'sia shore, and who knows what will delay the shipment. A sea storm is worse enough. If stock are to arrive, there's also no guarantee there will be enough stock as distribution across whole nation have to be considered as well. Just pray for the best outcome. I also urgently need the refund back as my friend is pushing me to the limit.
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By unknown means unknown as the supplier gone or unknown as when the stocks arriving ???
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i was wondering how he manage to pay or settle our debts which is involved nearly RM 50K sweat.gif is it pay by lump sum or monthly payment to each forummers whose involved with his deals? blush.gif
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QUOTE(storm88 @ Dec 13 2007, 03:33 PM)
erm.. not going to spread the salt on the wound on ya all
but, i dont really think the hope will come true.

btw, good luck guys. mayb the stock really come wink.gif
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Everyone is entitled to their own opinions. All we want is good outcome.

QUOTE(zeropulse @ Dec 13 2007, 03:38 PM)
By unknown means unknown as the supplier gone or unknown as when the stocks arriving ???
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I don't know for sure but mostly likely would be the latter one.

QUOTE(kakarocht @ Dec 13 2007, 03:49 PM)
i was wondering how he manage to pay or settle our debts which is involved nearly RM 50K sweat.gif is it pay by lump sum or monthly payment to each forummers whose involved with his deals?  blush.gif
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It's not easy to find such large sum of amount in such a short while, unless one is filthy rich or having some saving of his own. Just hope the supplier are able to release those money if requested since those stock can be sold to other buyer as well.

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i was wondering how he manage to pay or settle our debts which is involved nearly RM 50K sweat.gif is it pay by lump sum or monthly payment to each forummers whose involved with his deals?  blush.gif
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at least pay some amount first icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(Hyde`fK @ Dec 13 2007, 03:27 PM)
Refrain yourself from accusing SB is a conman. There's no solid proof to that. From what I can see now, SB said unknown status for the stock arrival is because the shipment has not reach M'sia shore, and who knows what will delay the shipment. A sea storm is worse enough. If stock are to arrive, there's also no guarantee there will be enough stock as distribution across whole nation have to be considered as well. Just pray for the best outcome. I also urgently need the refund back as my friend is pushing me to the limit.
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My friend, I didn't say Strongbaby is the conman. I know it as well that his supplier is the culprit who put him in this tight spot. Read properly next time. Ciao.
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abizon.net strongbaby is the owner?

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QUOTE(Balmung @ Dec 13 2007, 04:13 PM)
My friend, I didn't say Strongbaby is the conman. I know it as well that his supplier is the culprit who put him in this tight spot. Read properly next time. Ciao.
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no offence, and off topic, but i see it as u're the one who didnt reply properly in the 1st place, reply properly next time..
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I can understand it when he said the money is with the "supplier" but he never ordered my 2gb MSPD so where did my money goes to???
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QUOTE(kevin613 @ Dec 13 2007, 04:34 PM)
no offence, and off topic, but i see it as u're the one who didnt reply properly in the 1st place, reply properly next time..
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Sorry for the confusion. I made my previous remarks based on the assumption that you have read all the previous posts. I forget that there will be ppl who don't bother to read it.

Anyway, police report have been made by Strongbaby so shipping/stock/hoping for it to come does not matter anymore.
If we had not been conned/cheated, why would Ranger Red open up this whole thread in the 1st place, right?
What matters now is that everyone will get their refund, which in total is a huge amount itself.
I feel sorry for Strongbaby because I think he is a genuine seller but some ppl think he is the conman.
Just my 2 cents.
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QUOTE(Balmung @ Dec 13 2007, 04:46 PM)
Sorry for the confusion. I made my previous remarks based on the assumption that you have read all the previous posts. I forget that there will be ppl who don't bother to read it.

Anyway, police report have been made by Strongbaby so shipping/stock/hoping for it to come does not matter anymore.
If we had not been conned/cheated, why would Ranger Red open up this whole thread in the 1st place, right?
What matters now is that everyone will get their refund, which in total is a huge amount itself.
I feel sorry for Strongbaby because I think he is a genuine seller but some ppl think he is the conman.
Just my 2 cents.
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ya he really a trustable seller, i bought a hp from him and met him be4, really a nice guy.. altho i din get for another set, but he already told me that will be refund.. so guys, give him some times to prepare since it involve a large amount..
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Hello All,

Sheeshs! seeing all the posts for refunds. I also have a pending order with him for a ZOTAC 8800GT AMP! Edition which I have already paid RM900.00. (This payment was on the 26th November 2007). So what do you all think? Request for refund or wait for another week? I did sms him a few times this week in which he replied to all my sms stating that there's currently a problem between him and his supplier and that there's also no status on the item's ETA. I also offered him a topup if necessary for a swap to other brands so that I can get it sooner instead! However, his reply was "Dont have" rclxub.gif

I do not hope to have an "endless" wait, also my name was also not in his bulk list although I've paid in full for a GC.
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Hello All,

Sheeshs! seeing all the posts for refunds. I also have a pending order with him for a ZOTAC 8800GT AMP! Edition which I have already paid RM900.00. (This payment was on the 26th November 2007). So what do you all think? Request for refund or wait for another week? I did sms him a few times this week in which he replied to all my sms stating that there's currently a problem between him and his supplier and that there's also no status on the item's ETA. I also offered him a topup if necessary for a swap to other brands so that I can get it sooner instead! However, his reply was "Dont have"  rclxub.gif

I do not hope to have an "endless" wait, also my name was also not in his bulk list although I've paid in full for a GC.
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This is easy.
"Dont have" says it all.
Unless you enjoy "endless" waiting.
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Sadly, kesian for strongbaby, --> bad man sure got balasan one... hope the boat will be straight when reach the bridge.
Please Add me to the list as well,
Here is my info:

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Hope he's going to get through this down-time. hmm.gif

Strongbaby is nice, his supplier is bad. shakehead.gif
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All his stock (game consoles, graphics cards, monitors, motherboards, phones) all get from one single supplier? I find that quite hard to believe.
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reading all this bull shit really made me broke my own promise of not posting

Strongbaby has problem with supplier ?? you mean he get all kind bulk stock from one supplier ?? motherboard , lcd , memory card ,graphic card . ndsl . psp and etc ?? or everyone of them have problem at the SAME time ?? ...come on...what kind of bull story this is

Do not bother to update the refund list at all ?? even after repeatedly request by redranger..that show how sincere is he ...and what he think of all this mess he created

Reply with arrogant remark saying that he is not a ATM machine and do not print money ???

What kind of answer is this ..you took all the money and said this in your reply when people ask for refunds ??

You mean you just can put all the blame on these supplier ( if they really exist ) and tell those poor buyers .."hi I am sorry , I cant do anything , I already pass them the money ??? " you want your money back ... just shut up and wait ....????

seller with this kind of attitude still regard good by some members ..OMG ....????

Come on strongbaby be a man ...at least update the refund list with some kind of dates and start refunding .....

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If later this case need to be report to police , it is best to be lodge at commercial crime and anti cyber crime in Bukit Aman as advise by my friend since the amount is already almost 50k and growing daily ...could reach more hundred of thousands here

Then they will check how the business is run , where is the goods coming from , and those party involve and to see whether there is any foul play

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And also update on us buyers who still have a drop of hope in getting the goods..
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Still didnt have any new from strongbaby?Wonder what are he doing now? hmm.gif
i very hope he faster give us answer better than kept quiet!
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KaiserRagez, u sure u pmed me? Didnt see u on the pages or cant find ur pm... but stuck u on the list.
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u guys got the email about "Unwanted Stuff Clearance" from sales@abizon?

Nobody taking the offers? Im sure thats the only reply he will attend to now.
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u guys got the email about "Unwanted Stuff Clearance" from sales@abizon?

Nobody taking the offers?  Im sure thats the only reply he will attend to now.
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i also receive that email...
kinda weird thought...
with him not replying...suddenly unwanted stuff email come out...makes me think who is running that company... hmm.gif

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QUOTE(daniel_lyw @ Dec 13 2007, 10:49 PM)
i also receive that email...
kinda weird thought...
with him not replying...suddenly unwanted stuff email come out...makes me think who is running that company... hmm.gif
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QUOTE(heroes99 @ Dec 13 2007, 08:42 PM)
reading all this bull shit really made me broke my own promise of not posting

Strongbaby has problem with supplier ?? you mean he get all kind bulk stock from one supplier  ?? motherboard , lcd , memory card ,graphic card . ndsl . psp and etc ?? or everyone of them have problem at the SAME time ??  ...come on...what kind of bull story this is

Do not bother to  update  the refund list at all ?? even after repeatedly request by redranger..that show how sincere is he ...and what he think of all this mess he created

Reply with arrogant remark saying that he is not a ATM machine and do not print money ???

What kind of answer is this ..you took all the money and said this in your reply when people ask for refunds ??

You mean you just can put all the blame on these supplier ( if they really exist ) and tell those poor buyers .."hi I am sorry , I cant do anything , I already pass them the money ??? " you want your money back ... just shut up and wait ....????

seller with this kind of attitude still regard good by some members ..OMG ....????

Come on strongbaby be a man ...at least update the refund list with some kind of dates and start refunding .....

INFO

If later this case need to be report to police ,  it is best to be lodge at commercial crime and anti cyber crime in Bukit Aman as advise by my friend since the amount is already almost 50k and growing daily ...could reach more hundred of thousands here

Then they will check how the business is run , where is the goods coming from  ,  and those party involve and to see whether there is any foul play
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Excuse me, are you also waiting for a refund? If you read the 1st post, it says "This thread is for buyers that are looking for refunds from Strongbaby AFTER waiting for MORE THAN 28 WORKING DAYS." Kapish?

So did you check out that police report? Do you have proof that he's lying other than your *excellent* theories? Do you know EXACTLY how his business works that you can say for certain that he gets all his stuff from different suppliers?

Or maybe you just want the fire to get bigger? Keep on provoking him until he decides to run? Then that would be great for all of us wouldn't it? Then you can boast that your theories were right all along.

Yeah, I'm waiting for him to update us too, but I just received an email acknowledging my refund request. Thats an update to me and the fact the other forumers have received an email from sales@abizon.net tells me that he is actually trying to collect the money.
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QUOTE(daniel_lyw @ Dec 13 2007, 10:49 PM)
i also receive that email...
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with him not replying...suddenly unwanted stuff email come out...makes me think who is running that company... hmm.gif
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that site is registered and owned by himself
http://www.ip-adress.com/whois/www.abizon.net
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QUOTE(zeropulse @ Dec 14 2007, 12:11 AM)
What does it say ??
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QUOTE(dattebayo @ Dec 14 2007, 02:30 AM)
that site is registered and owned by himself
http://www.ip-adress.com/whois/www.abizon.net
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thanks. u remind me of searching.
i give u this, of the whois:
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

the registrant shares the same name as SB...dunno is him or not? hmm.gif or the webhosting service guy... hmm.gif

p/s: dunno i suppose to post this things here a not...

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QUOTE(zx12 @ Dec 14 2007, 12:45 AM)
Excuse me, are you also waiting for a refund? If you read the 1st post, it says "This thread is for buyers that are looking for refunds from Strongbaby AFTER waiting for MORE THAN 28 WORKING DAYS." Kapish?

So did you check out that police report? Do you have proof that he's lying other than your *excellent* theories? Do you know EXACTLY how his business works that you can say for certain that he gets all his stuff from different suppliers?

Or maybe you just want the fire to get bigger? Keep on provoking him until he decides to run? Then that would be great for all of us wouldn't it? Then you can boast that your theories were right all along.

Yeah, I'm waiting for him to update us too, but I just received an email acknowledging my refund request. Thats an update to me and the fact the other forumers have received an email from sales@abizon.net tells me that he is actually trying to collect the money.
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QUOTE(zx12 @ Dec 14 2007, 12:45 AM)
Excuse me, are you also waiting for a refund? If you read the 1st post, it says "This thread is for buyers that are looking for refunds from Strongbaby AFTER waiting for MORE THAN 28 WORKING DAYS." Kapish?

So did you check out that police report? Do you have proof that he's lying other than your *excellent* theories? Do you know EXACTLY how his business works that you can say for certain that he gets all his stuff from different suppliers?

Or maybe you just want the fire to get bigger? Keep on provoking him until he decides to run? Then that would be great for all of us wouldn't it? Then you can boast that your theories were right all along.

Yeah, I'm waiting for him to update us too, but I just received an email acknowledging my refund request. Thats an update to me and the fact the other forumers have received an email from sales@abizon.net tells me that he is actually trying to collect the money.
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Good that he has acknowledge the refund request , do he tell you when he going to refund to you ? anyone else receive anything ?

It is very difficult for him to just post here and update the status ?

When you already got people into trouble with all those cash , the least you can do it keep people here updated on what is happening , rather just don't bother and reply with arrogant remarks ...

In fact I don't have know about the way business run , let the commercial crime unit do that ....I am going over to the Bukit Aman on Monday if this strongbaby still do not response here by then

I will lodge a report about this and let police do the job , maybe it will be also help to clear strongbaby name of any foul play ..maybe then we all will know what is really happening


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day by day passed...

no healthy progress....

and i still have a total of rm6000 at him.....

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P.S: received sms that he is trying to gather $$ for refund. problem is how long will it take.....
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QUOTE(heroes99 @ Dec 14 2007, 06:58 AM)
Good that he has acknowledge the refund request , do he tell you when he going to refund to you ? anyone else receive anything ?

It is very difficult for him to just post here and update the status ?

When you already got people into trouble with all those cash , the least you can do it keep people here updated on what is happening , rather just don't bother and reply with arrogant remarks ...

In fact I don't have know about the way business run , let the commercial crime unit do that ....I am going over to the Bukit Aman on Monday if this strongbaby still do not response here by then

I will lodge a report about this and let police do the job , maybe  it will be also help to clear strongbaby name of any foul play ..maybe then we all will know what  is really happening
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OMG!! You really do believe that you're a hero don't you?? What gives you the right to make a police report?? Are you waiting for a refund also? Your name is not even in the list. I bet you want to be the hero again right? By threatening to make a police report, then SB will reply and you become a hero again?

Please la.. think of the consequences of filing a police report against him.
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QUOTE(heroes99 @ Dec 14 2007, 06:58 AM)
Good that he has acknowledge the refund request , do he tell you when he going to refund to you ? anyone else receive anything ?

It is very difficult for him to just post here and update the status ?

When you already got people into trouble with all those cash , the least you can do it keep people here updated on what is happening , rather just don't bother and reply with arrogant remarks ...

In fact I don't have know about the way business run , let the commercial crime unit do that ....I am going over to the Bukit Aman on Monday if this strongbaby still do not response here by then

I will lodge a report about this and let police do the job , maybe  it will be also help to clear strongbaby name of any foul play ..maybe then we all will know what  is really happening
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juz keep ur mouth shut and stop acting hero... ur not the buyer..u juz an outsider.. u shouldn't be appear in this thread.. because ur not the 1 who looking for refund.. u hav no kaitan dgn hal strongbaby.. pls keep ur promise as nvr leave any posts in this thread anymore.. u break ur promise = non-responsible person.. u hav no qualifications to leave bad comment on strongbaby.. because urself is a non-responsible person..

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QUOTE(heroes99 @ Dec 14 2007, 06:58 AM)
Good that he has acknowledge the refund request , do he tell you when he going to refund to you ? anyone else receive anything ?

It is very difficult for him to just post here and update the status ?

When you already got people into trouble with all those cash , the least you can do it keep people here updated on what is happening , rather just don't bother and reply with arrogant remarks ...

In fact I don't have know about the way business run , let the commercial crime unit do that ....I am going over to the Bukit Aman on Monday if this strongbaby still do not response here by then

I will lodge a report about this and let police do the job , maybe  it will be also help to clear strongbaby name of any foul play ..maybe then we all will know what  is really happening
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doh.gif Dammit, couldn't you just shut the hell up??? I don't care you have business with strongbaby or not or you want lodge police, eat shit etc. bla bla but for god sake, this thread is for REFUND ONLY not DISPUTE THREAD

You want to mumble, go talk to the wall and mumble, or you can create a new thread to dispute strongbaby.

And please, for those looking for refund just do like what RedRanger(mispelled sorry >.<) RangerRed instructed and wait for him and strongbaby to deal with. And for those who still want to wait(including me lah) just shut ur mouth and ask him via sms, etc, phone call. Ranting here(like heroes99) is pointless.

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i didn't receive any confirmation email from strongbaby about the refund,i did emailed him before

should i email again?
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U dont need confirmation email... emailing him is enough.... keeping with ur part of the requirement is that u should do...
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U dont need confirmation email... emailing him is enough.... keeping with ur part of the requirement is that u should do...
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Here are my refunding details as well, pls update my name to the list. I have emailed strongbaby already.

Amount & Item involved: 3x PSP Slim totalling RM1500
Money banked in on 18th and 24th November. Print screen provided to him

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[quote=heroes99,Dec 14 2007, 06:58 AM]
Good that he has acknowledge the refund request , do he tell you when he going to refund to you ? anyone else receive anything ?

It is very difficult for him to just post here and update the status ?

When you already got people into trouble with all those cash , the least you can do it keep people here updated on what is happening , rather just don't bother and reply with arrogant remarks ...

In fact I don't have know about the way business run , let the commercial crime unit do that ....I am going over to the Bukit Aman on Monday if this strongbaby still do not response here by then

I will lodge a report about this and let police do the job , maybe it will be also help to clear strongbaby name of any foul play ..maybe then we all will know what is really happening
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QUOTE(temptation1314 @ Dec 14 2007, 09:58 AM)
doh.gif Dammit, couldn't you just shut the hell up??? I don't care you have business with strongbaby or not or you want lodge police, eat shit etc. bla bla but for god sake, this thread is for REFUND ONLY not DISPUTE THREAD

You want to mumble, go talk to the wall and mumble, or you can create a new thread to dispute strongbaby.

And please, for those looking for refund just do like what RedRanger(mispelled sorry >.<) RangerRed instructed and wait for him and strongbaby to deal with. And for those who still want to wait(including me lah) just shut ur mouth and ask him via sms, etc, phone call. Ranting here(like heroes99) is pointless.
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Agreed..Actually wait also dunno wait till when..
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Not the part that says, 'date of refund demanded' means the date of the day you notify Strongbaby of your refund. Not the date you expect it to come. OK smile.gif

All request for refunds are expected to be given the day after request.

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QUOTE(heroes99 @ Dec 14 2007, 06:58 AM)
Good that he has acknowledge the refund request , do he tell you when he going to refund to you ? anyone else receive anything ?

It is very difficult for him to just post here and update the status ?

When you already got people into trouble with all those cash , the least you can do it keep people here updated on what is happening , rather just don't bother and reply with arrogant remarks ...

In fact I don't have know about the way business run , let the commercial crime unit do that ....I am going over to the Bukit Aman on Monday if this strongbaby still do not response here by then

I will lodge a report about this and let police do the job , maybe  it will be also help to clear strongbaby name of any foul play ..maybe then we all will know what  is really happening
Trying to be a smartass huh?
What do you think your herostical job will help you get somewhere in this forum?

Just shutup meat bag, no one is asking for your help here.

This thread is only for those guys that is asking for refunds from strongbaby, not for those people that wants attention like you.
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already 1 week ago , still not any update here ...when can starting get our refund !!!
latest total refund amt around 55k . mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif vmad.gif vmad.gif


my $$$$$ is cooler than water . Sigh !
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KaiserRagez, u sure u pmed me? Didnt see u on the pages or cant find ur pm... but stuck u on the list.
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QUOTE(THT @ Dec 14 2007, 01:02 PM)
already 1 week ago , still not any update here ...when can starting get our refund !!!
latest total refund amt around 55k .  mad.gif  mad.gif  mad.gif  vmad.gif  vmad.gif
my $$$$$ is cooler than water . Sigh !
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uh THT, I hope you can bear with strongbaby to go thru this or else, your money wont even feel cooler or hotter.
P/S : I understand, 55k leh. Some people here RM400 already make noise like the whole world going to have WW2. Just call strongbaby to discuss out k? icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(temptation1314 @ Dec 14 2007, 01:33 PM)
uh THT, I hope you can bear with strongbaby to go thru this or else, your money wont even feel cooler or hotter.
P/S : I understand, 55k leh. Some people here RM400 already make noise like the whole world going to have WW2. Just call strongbaby to discuss out k? icon_rolleyes.gif
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BEFORE I Posting my refund here . i sms strongbaby 2 msg per day.i aslo discuss with him few more times..the ask from him is " DRY AT THE MOMENT" or "waiting from main side " .

i tired to contact him again.

p/s : i dun think strongbaby will pickup my phone . vmad.gif

i m ready if i cant get back all my $$$$. maybe i will do some personal action ..estimate time i gv strongbaby is till this year end .

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Strongbaby is online now. Hopefully he'll come and post something.
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I would like to request for my refunds as well.. notworthy.gif add me in the list.. Thanks

StratOS === PSP slim and lite + 4GB memory package === RM800 === RM800 === 14/12/2007 === Emailed To Strongbaby

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well that maybe not abt hero or what . this post have been up almost 2 week . total ask for refund more then 50k . but not even 1 ppl get a refund . we may need do something to push him or else this case will drag to 1-3 month time .
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He's offline after online a while.

I just hope that he didn't online to see whether some drastic measure
is taken on Strongbaby.

I believer some of our forumers is right. If we follow heroes99 way and
report police (which is drastic), strongbaby will be able to read it here.
And he might do something drastic like what other forumer suggest.

But what is a better way:
a) Do something drastic
b) Wait until the matter die down
c) Wait until SB refund which might take a very very long time


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I ordered my NDSL through my bf's nickname. I ordered it on mid of Nov.

Please add me into the list. I emailed Strong baby.

master_q=== NDSL (R4 package)=== RM450 === RM450 === 14/12/2008

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I also want to request a refund since I wont likely to receive the PS2.

one0one === PS2 Slim Modded === RM400 === RM400 === 14/12/2007 === Emailed To Strongbaby
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I still remember PE case where PE still come back to check once a while.

OMG, please SB. You must come back and post here to comfort everyone.
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carpathia === Sony k810i and Nintendo DS Lite === 1350=== balance owed (None) === date of refund demand (Today - 14th Dec)


damn...i didnt know about this until i sms strongbaby just now and he wondered if he had refunded me or not cry.gif
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Just wanted to say that at least i'm comforted by the fact that he has replied my email. So that's a good sign that he isn't a conman.
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I had emailed to strongbaby just now. Please update my name in the list .Thanks.

Godluvsxs===2 units PSP RM500 package === RM1000 === RM1000 ===14/12/2007 === Emailed To Strongbaby

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Hi! Just found out this threads.
I'm sad. cry.gif
Strongbaby is not a conman.
I bought from him NDSL. As promise 14 working days.
I think his supplier is making him in trouble.
Give him some time.
Trust him.

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i just received my RM400 from him, therefore it's confirmed he's not a conman. just wish he would just speak up a bit.
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i just received my RM400 from him, therefore it's confirmed he's not a conman. just wish he would just speak up a bit.
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Let me guess... is this the 1st refund in the thread??? or i missed any ? rclxub.gif

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temptation1314, RM400 is RM400... if its not a big deal to u keep to urself.... otherwise pay those guys off. Seriously, u don't know what they went thru to get the money or how they felt being disappointment non-stop cuz if u did u wouldn't say such things.

spikeee, so u're no.40 n u got ur refund? Is that it? So SB is following his own list is it?

Let me tell u this SB there is no selective process. U WILL FOLLOW THE ORDER OF THIS LIST!

Those of u that is gonna say, well then he gonna be stuck on the 10k+ from THT then it is simple, refund THT some of the money, move next in the list refund them their full money, move next one n so on no.10. Then come back to THT n refund him again then move to no.11 until u reach no.20 then go back to THT n refund him.

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from SB's reply in the first page, it seems that his supplier do not have much credibility to begin with (I even think that they operate it underground but let's don't over assume), and since report has been lodged, perhaps you guys can request a copy of it and post it here?

this can really serve as a lesson for any members which intended to start a bulk sales in LYN. It isn't easy and be sure to always track the supplier, while at the same time have some financial backup before starting any business.

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i'm a buyer too...not sure whether 2 continue to wait in the dark or ask for a refund...so the first person has received his refund eh...rangerred..how are u going 2 make sure strongbaby follows your list?
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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Dec 14 2007, 03:00 PM)
He's offline after online a while.

I just hope that he didn't online to see whether some drastic measure
is taken on Strongbaby.

I believer some of our forumers is right. If we follow heroes99 way and
report police (which is drastic), strongbaby will be able to read it here.
And he might do something drastic like what other forumer suggest.

But what is a better way:
a)      Do something drastic
b)      Wait until the matter die down
c)      Wait until SB refund which might take a very very long time
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Just to let him know that there is an option going if he choose to ignore ..he has respond with one refund although he must ensure to follow the list set by redranger

That should be a good start ...as once he start to refund one , the rest will come ..just give him some time to work this out ..and I really hope he will post the dates on the refunds ...communicate more here and ensure everyone you are working on this refunds



for those who disagree with me no problem though wish some of you could be more in your reply smile.gif

I still believe adding some pressure will get things moving and remind him to keep working on those refunds ..

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RangerRed, everyone has their own different date of refund demand.
I suggest you tweak the refund rules just a bit.
However, I strongly agree on your "follow the order" basis.
I would have gotten my PSP long time ago but noooo...
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i sms'd strongbaby for a partial refund for my ndsl since i need to use the money urgently.

He told me he has no money sad.gif

thank god one of my kind friend is willing to borrow me the money,after constant begging
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just sms sb and got reply he can't deliver my gc in this 2 week so i also want to put my name in this refund list

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i guest i'll get my 88gt from lyp tomorrow...
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i guest i'll get my 88gt from lyp tomorrow...
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i wish i could do the same...but my money reserved for a new processor,gc and mobo were all sent to strongbaby..so i can't get anything now..saved up the cash for about 2 years..2 years!!!strongbaby if you're reading this...i hope u realise what you've put me through..and all the other buyers for that matter..some buyers may be financially 'blessed' so it isn't such a big deal to them as they can get more money easily whether its from their parents or from a stable job..but for others..its absolute agony to see their hard earned cash disappear into thin air,and they're powerless to do anything about it..the least u could do is update us on this thread,or tell us what measures you're taking to deliver the goods or look for resources to refund the other buyers...everyone has problems..even bigger problems than yours..but the effort they put in to rectify the situation is what makes the difference..your constant ignoring of customers only makes the situation worse and its not something i have to tell u..u already know this.so do something...for God's sake...DO SOMETHING

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QUOTE(RangerRed @ Dec 14 2007, 06:54 PM)
temptation1314, RM400 is RM400... if its not a big deal to u keep to urself.... otherwise pay those guys off. Seriously, u don't know what they went thru to get the money or how they felt being disappointment non-stop cuz if u did u wouldn't say such things.

spikeee, so u're no.40 n u got ur refund? Is that it? So SB is following his own list is it?

Let me tell u this SB there is no selective process. U WILL FOLLOW THE ORDER OF THIS LIST!

Those of u that is gonna say, well then he gonna be stuck on the 10k+ from THT then it is simple, refund THT some of the money, move next in the list refund them their full money, move next one n so on no.10. Then come back to THT n refund him again then move to no.11 until u reach no.20 then go back to THT n refund him.
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apologies! my bad! that was my sister who banked in RM400 to me :S

sorry sorry, cause we couldn't wait and had to buy another NDSL so i asked her to bank in to me first..
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my bad!
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QUOTE(Kerplunk @ Dec 14 2007, 11:05 PM)
i wish i could do the same...but my money reserved for a new processor,gc and mobo were all sent to strongbaby..so i can't get anything now..saved up the cash for about 2 years..2 years!!!strongbaby if you're reading this...i hope u realise what you've put me through..and all the other buyers for that matter..some buyers may be financially 'blessed' so it isn't such a big deal to them as they can get more money easily whether its from their parents or from a stable job..but for others..its absolute agony to see their hard earned cash disappear into thin air,and they're powerless to do anything about it..the least u could do is update us on this thread,or tell us what measures you're taking to deliver the goods or look for resources to refund the other buyers...everyone has problems..even bigger problems than yours..but the effort they put in to rectify the situation is what makes the difference..your constant ignoring of customers only makes the situation worse and its not something i have to tell u..u already know this.so do something...for God's sake...DO SOMETHING
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QUOTE(spikeee @ Dec 15 2007, 12:32 AM)
apologies! my bad! that was my sister who banked in RM400 to me :S

sorry sorry, cause we couldn't wait and had to buy another NDSL so i asked her to bank in to me first..
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my bad!
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Dat mean he still didnt refund anybody yet lar!Next pls check careful just post here, it will cause misunderstanding!
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QUOTE(spikeee @ Dec 15 2007, 12:32 AM)
apologies! my bad! that was my sister who banked in RM400 to me :S

sorry sorry, cause we couldn't wait and had to buy another NDSL so i asked her to bank in to me first..
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my bad!
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QUOTE(Kerplunk @ Dec 14 2007, 11:05 PM)
i wish i could do the same...but my money reserved for a new processor,gc and mobo were all sent to strongbaby..so i can't get anything now..saved up the cash for about 2 years..2 years!!!strongbaby if you're reading this...i hope u realise what you've put me through..and all the other buyers for that matter..some buyers may be financially 'blessed' so it isn't such a big deal to them as they can get more money easily whether its from their parents or from a stable job..but for others..its absolute agony to see their hard earned cash disappear into thin air,and they're powerless to do anything about it..the least u could do is update us on this thread,or tell us what measures you're taking to deliver the goods or look for resources to refund the other buyers...everyone has problems..even bigger problems than yours..but the effort they put in to rectify the situation is what makes the difference..your constant ignoring of customers only makes the situation worse and its not something i have to tell u..u already know this.so do something...for God's sake...DO SOMETHING
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Fully understand ...and feel sad and angry at the same time .... mad.gif

Earlier I thought he has refund someone but it is just a misunderstanding ...

So he still refuse to post updates and keep ignoring this thread ..

For those who still want to defend such heartless and arrogant person , please spare a moment for members like above
, maybe to some rich members this money is small amount but there are people who save a long time for their dream item....and now see their hope vanish , understand their pain ....



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That money is hard to come, i thought of pampering myself by buying a psp as i worked for it..but now..sigh...not to defend strongbaby..but just hope he can settle this and maybe get the stocks...
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To heroes99, please don't put up flame here, we all very frustrated with the current situation, if you are not one of the buyer, i do advise you to stay out of this issue and let Rangered to handle.

To Strongbaby, please let us know your update day by day, whether you are refunding / getting stock / doing nothing or whatever, let us monitor the bulk, its really not right that all your bulk order sudden dead. Please update us.

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lelong2007 2 unit slim psp bank in rm1000 on 11-nov-2007
already receive one unit .left one unit for refund

p/s: Disappointed cannot get the consoles due to supplier problem (was willing to wait a little more). Nevertheless, good luck to everyone and all the best to strongbaby
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My PM is now free again.. so if anyone of u r trying to pm me u can now.

spikeee, i offered to refund my sister for her psp but she says she wants the nut-bag to refund her himself.
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QUOTE(lelong2007 @ Dec 15 2007, 02:41 AM)
lelong2007  2 unit slim psp bank in rm1000 on 11-nov-2007
already receive one unit .left one unit for refund

p/s: Disappointed cannot get the consoles due to supplier problem (was willing to wait a little more). Nevertheless, good luck to everyone and all the best to strongbaby
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Not trying to spam here but, this p/s is a quote from me no? http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?act=ST&f...post&p=14624478

Anyway, anyone else received any refunds yet?
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Feel sorry for you guys here. I was one of the buyer for the Q6600 processor but i later cancel my order due to the long waiting period in which i can't stand it anymore. vmad.gif vmad.gif vmad.gif

I was lucky that i got refunded from him but that also took around close to 3 weeks. sweat.gif
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Ok waited 1.5 Months liow...cannot tahan..pls refund as soon as possible...as i need to use to money for other urgent stuff.

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DEz012 === XFX8800GT 512MB === RM800.00 === RM800.00 === 20/12/07  === Emailed To Strongbaby.

I give him few days chance until 20 / 12 / 07.
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just hope he settle it well,

saw the list, u guys just a few hundred...mine more than 1k leh... cry.gif
me lagi worst...haiz..

if not, we all kumpul to make polis report jor. but this is the worst case senario la.. sad.gif

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It's a pain for some people especially students who worked up part time to buy something they dream of, but then due to the seller side's problems everything has become vague. The feeling is like buying a house during it's construction phase but unable to finish at promised time. sad.gif

As an outsider, I can see that Strongbaby is at the fault side, actually he should be the one who post the most here and try his effort to ease the rant here. Despite the problem on his or supplier, what an outsider can see is the buyer pay for the goods but not able to receive it for overly period. He make money through the sales conducted here, buyers get it at cheaper price in exchange of long waiting time, in the end the liability is still at the seller.

To some members, beware when you are tempted to buy something from bulk sales next time, if the price is just a little higher in retail or ready stock, get them instead. I do hope that Trade enforcer could implement some stricter rules as to monitor the bulk sales. Some sellers might refuse to disclose supplier information but when things become complicated, TE should request for them, this also means that the TE must be etique enough as not to disclose any P&C info unless it has threatened the benefits of all buyers.

My 2 cents and ciao.
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wat i want to know here is ST will order the item anymore or just wait to refund ? If he will no order anymore, pls tell me and i wish to get refund here also.

ST, may be u can provide us your supplier details info, and some of us may help u find him. Its more good u just wait him to reply you Unless the supplier is not exist or whatever? WE CAN HELP, ANYONE RIGHT?

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QUOTE(kingsthii @ Dec 15 2007, 01:52 PM)
wat i want to know here is ST will order the item anymore or just wait to refund ? If he will no order anymore, pls tell me and i wish to get refund here also.

ST, may be u can provide us your supplier details info, and some of us may help u find him. Its more good u just wait him to reply you Unless the supplier is not exist or whatever? WE CAN HELP, ANYONE RIGHT?
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same here, strong pls tell us is the item will come or not? coz u seldom update the status so i dont know keep waiting or join the refund group better rclxub.gif
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he's online everyday but no give update i think.
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TS should at least post a reply , his Bulk order and refund thread kinda dead now. i just think if u r sincere in refunding at least let us know roughly when we can start getting them or if u intend to continue your bulk.

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QUOTE(Synco @ Dec 15 2007, 04:54 PM)
TS should at least post a reply , his Bulk order and refund thread kinda dead now. i just think if u r sincere in refunding at least let us know roughly when we can start getting them or if u intend to continue your bulk.
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TS ≠ strongbaby... TS is RangerRed =.=

*TS means thread starter..k?

strongbaby should owes update us.. haiz..
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RangerRed, if strongbaby does not refund anyone at all in the next 1 week plus the fact that he logs in once in a while without updating, what is the next course of action recommended by you?

An interesting post


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Some ppl r readying police report for criminal action... u can join them....
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QUOTE(heroes99 @ Dec 15 2007, 01:44 AM)
what ??????????????


Added on December 15, 2007, 1:50 am
Fully understand ...and feel sad and angry at the same time .... mad.gif

Earlier I thought he has refund someone but it is just a misunderstanding ...

So he still refuse to post updates and keep ignoring this thread ..

For those who still want to defend such heartless and arrogant person , please spare a moment for members like above
, maybe to some rich members this money is small amount but there are people who save a long time  for their dream item....and now see their hope vanish , understand their pain ....
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Are u Mior Alang Iskandar?

i thought before this u con people selling your PSP and UMD games right?
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if there is a police report to be made...
was wondering, can we (people who is interested) join in to make a police report as a group?

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i think police report should be the last resort

why don't a couple of lyners that live around the area group up and go look for strongbaby,and discuss with him the matters face to face and hopefully come up with a solution.

If he still fails to sort out the mess after that,then only report to the police.
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QUOTE(Crossbone @ Dec 15 2007, 10:31 PM)
i think police report should be the last resort

why don't a couple of lyners that live around the area group up and go look for strongbaby,and discuss with him the matters face to face and hopefully come up with a solution.

If he still fails to sort out the mess after that,then only report to the police.
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I agree. Meeting up with him(peacefully) at his home or workplace should be done 1st before any drastic measure should be done. Though personally I think strongbaby is stupid in not trying to communicate with ppl here and risk having a report taken against him. Either that or he really is a con. Nuff said.
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Are u Mior Alang Iskandar?

i thought before this u con people selling your PSP and UMD games right?
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QUOTE(zamanjaafar @ Dec 15 2007, 10:39 PM)
I agree.  Meeting up with him(peacefully) at his home or workplace should be done 1st before any drastic measure should be done.  Though personally I think strongbaby is stupid in not trying to communicate with ppl here and risk having a report taken against him.  Either that or he really is a con.  Nuff said.
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yes agree, since we know the address,then just talk soft face to face with him first,see what is his condition. Maybe we can find out better solution rclxms.gif rather than just make a police report against him(we still cant get money rite) shocking.gif someone living that area please help together with lyn member? i m living at malacca. doh.gif .too bad

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Sadly..I've paid since october 25..now have to refund...

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me strongly agree too,
set up a date then go find him together... rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(heroes99 @ Dec 15 2007, 01:44 AM)
For those who still want to defend such heartless and arrogant person
No one is defending strongbaby here.
We all here just ask for one simple thing that is asking you to shutup and stop bringing more flames.

We are here to find some way to settle this, we don't want flames, we don't want any troublemaker [Especially you].
So just shutup with whatever of your flaming & trolling.

Capiche?
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I would have made a police report.

During poweredge's case last time only a few of his victims made a report.
He's still enjoying his freedom till this day... despite numerous people saying that they want to whack him and all.

How many of you here are actually willing to meet strongbaby together, as a group?
And how many people have actually seen him in person?
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i really hope we can form a group and find him to settle this problem..i alwaz keep on treck the website till numb dy...i feel we just sit down at here also cnat do anything..y dont we find and meet him to settle this thing...!the problem is we wait at here..our hard earn money also donno whether have to wait have long to refund back!
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IMHO, I think it's about time we take drastic measures.
Just look at the list and the huge amount of money involved, not to mention the time wasted.
Unless we take action soon, this could be the biggest loss in the history of LYN, heh.
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Should arrange time to meet... if it true main supplier have a problem. we should also have a "visit" to his main . i could spend time to join this meeting but weekend only icon_rolleyes.gif

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How long u guys gonna wait? The list has reached 50+ ppl.... u really want to sit by? Those of u in KL that want to give him one last chance then by all means go visit him n have him lay out a firm plan of action. No sweet talking. Otherwise it is time to make police reports.
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QUOTE(RangerRed @ Dec 16 2007, 10:39 AM)
How long u guys gonna wait? The list has reached 50+ ppl.... u really want to sit by? Those of u in KL that want to give him one last chance then by all means go visit him n have him lay out a firm plan of action. No sweet talking. Otherwise it is time to make police reports.
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QUOTE(RangerRed @ Dec 16 2007, 10:39 AM)
How long u guys gonna wait? The list has reached 50+ ppl.... u really want to sit by? Those of u in KL that want to give him one last chance then by all means go visit him n have him lay out a firm plan of action. No sweet talking. Otherwise it is time to make police reports.
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I agree with u rangerRed. Those of u in KL need to take action now!
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He should at least start refunding...we are not asking him to refund the whole lot of us.
maybe he's buying time..
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QUOTE(RangerRed @ Dec 16 2007, 10:39 AM)
How long u guys gonna wait? The list has reached 50+ ppl.... u really want to sit by? Those of u in KL that want to give him one last chance then by all means go visit him n have him lay out a firm plan of action. No sweet talking. Otherwise it is time to make police reports.
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agree i think tat is better take action now.visit him first if still can't setter report police.
ts try set a date we can visit him together
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Well am in penang so those in KL why not go at 3pm Tuesday to look for him... of course after reading this he'll sure be elseway.... tell u what all those that want to go meet PM Lelong. Lelong will only accept PMs from ppl in the list to meetup n go find him... Lelong set a date n time with those ppl that r verified on the list. Dont tell anyone the date n time u r going so u can really catch up with him to talk.
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QUOTE(RangerRed @ Dec 15 2007, 02:49 AM)
My PM is now free again.. so if anyone of u r trying to pm me u can now.

spikeee, i offered to refund my sister for her psp but she says she wants the nut-bag to refund her himself.
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yeah i'll go ahead and get another NDSL first. and expect a refund.
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I am hoping for more updates and further steps by SB on refunding. Lay out your plans on this. Talk to the supplier and talk to us. I know you are already doing it but some of us are more than willing to help in negotiations with your supplier. Really hope we can find an amicable solution for this.


P/S : I'm really hoping for a partial refund for some of the buyers for this week.
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was adviced by strongbby himself to put into refund mode, pity him....ive met with him b4 for my ps2.....guys, rite now he's doing other businees for turnaround, and i guess arranging a peaceful meet up with him is a good idea...hope he can handle this..... flex.gif
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since you are ignore my PM i have to choose for REFUND.
THANK YOU.

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some of my friends still waiting for his things but they dont want to say it here yet :S sighs...
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QUOTE(swantonng @ Dec 16 2007, 03:23 PM)
I am hoping for more updates and further steps by SB on refunding. Lay out your plans on this. Talk to the supplier and talk to us. I know you are already doing it but some of us are more than willing to help in negotiations with your supplier. Really hope we can find an amicable solution for this.
P/S : I'm really hoping for a partial refund for some of the buyers for this week.
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Thats the problem isn't it? The supplier absconded? So the whole thing is going to land on SB's head only...

Any lawyers bought stuff from him? We might need some legal advice ...

Who's Lelong? Don't see his name on the list ...

Sigh, want to save 80$ end up losing 400$, chehhh ...really turned off internet buying...


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klmc, i presume this is your first few internet sales? well many of us have been doing it for years and years. this is the first time this has happened for me. so don't generalize all this with internet purchasing lor smile.gif

anyone has his address ? i can go meet up with him
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@klmc

lelong is actually in the list... his name less the "l" a d...haha some1 paste less a word cool2.gif
he is lelong2007 in this page

@spikeee
his add is in the 1st page. there got 2...me dunno which 1
pm lelong2007 ba if u wanna set up an date to meet him. we are gathering people now sad.gif
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total RM63,719 and counting.. i recon the end figures will exceed RM120k..

it is absolutely amazing how (Strongbaby|Female) able to annexed such a huge sum of money.. this case also proved that a female screen name + a female gender registration will lower the guard of the potential depositors..

as for the name Strongbaby, psychologycally, when a person is is struggling and fighting, he or she will subconciously chose a (screen) name that he or she needs to live up to.. like.. i need to be strong.. i need to overcome .. .. ..

Strongbaby collected hundred of thousand and redeposited it into a freelancer account with no business registration and sales office and meeting up on random location to receive the goods? it is either he is completely insane or he telling a stupids lies, i choose the later..

so is this a well thought out plan to lure depositers? a well thought out plan will have phantom name, IC, bank account, address and most important no personal touch, i.e. no meeting up..

i recon Strongbaby is in business and his business is in financial trouble so he would like to borrow some from LYNers.. how you may ask.. easy.. bulks varies goods and collect deposit and 'take them' in a manner say.. RM10k as a block, when third/fourth block is collected then go buy goods at a slight losses to 'supply' the first block depositors.. a good plan, better than paying loan shark interest and probably better than personal loan interest..

then business must be getting from bad to worse.. (it explained how and why sometimes his PM|SMS|Call can be so rude and arrogant).. he could no longer supply the earlier block and the whole things burst.. his life is now in deep shit.. financial trouble + having a whole bunch of LYNers very angry with him..

bad news: most of the depositors money are probably vanished by now

bad news: there is nothing much that a depositor can do.. the law is on your side only to persue legal action to demand refund from Strongbaby, he is breaking a civil sales contract, don't expect the police, the army, the marine and the bank officer | manager to help you..

imagine this.. you go to the neighbourhood computer shop to buy a HDD and the staff tell you no stock and the staff require you to make full upfront payment for them to order for you and you foolishly paid them.. and.. after repeated visit to the said computer shop and they fail to supply you with the HDD.. what do you do? you ask for a refund, and if after repeated request and demand you still fail to get your refund what do you do? lodge a police report? no no no.. this has nothing to do with the police.. you go to the bank in an attemps to freeze their account? no no no.. the bank manager will not entertain you.. in such a case you go to the consumer tribunal court to demand a refund..

DO NOT use your Hand and your Leg to convince Strongbaby for a immediate refund, you can be arrested immediately by the police and put into a jail for taking such action..

bad news: the individual amount is small, so no pleasure of putting him into bankruptcy to vent your anger, there is really nothing much that you can do..

bad news: your only chance is to prove to the police|court that Strongbaby is a con artist and that he should be put in jail, you can forget about going after his bank account because if he still has any money left it would have been transfered out already..

anyway congrat Strongbaby, you are absolutely brilliant..

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p/s : anyone gotten any latest updates from strongbaby here? sms-ed him on friday night but no response

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whatcanisay,
are you heroes99 in disguise?

p/s : anyone gotten any latest updates from strongbaby here? sms-ed him on friday night but no response
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QUOTE(ihatemyguts @ Dec 16 2007, 06:31 PM)
whatcanisay,
are you heroes99 in disguise?

p/s : anyone gotten any latest updates from strongbaby here? sms-ed him on friday night but no response
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exactly what i was thinking..more crazy theories with not an ounce of evidence..

anyway, if you guys are going to knock on his door, i think its better if only a few ppl go 1st..if lots of ppl go at once, it might only cause a ruckus but not achieve what you intended to do which is have a proper discussion about the situation.
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someone here has an agenda, eventhough he doesnt seem to be related to this mess, the very fact that he has motivation to find each and every one of strongbaby's thread and paste the same pedestrian commentary shows some motive. Not to mention just registered.

don't get sidetracked. and the first few lines are utter BS, try lurking moar next time.
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I actually sms-ed him yesterday..he said he is getting funds from borrowers, but not much..and trying to do some biz to turnaround and get money to refund..
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QUOTE(spikeee @ Dec 16 2007, 05:59 PM)
klmc, i presume this is your first few internet sales? well many of us have been doing it for years and years. this is the first time this has happened for me. so don't generalize all this with internet purchasing lor smile.gif

anyone has his address ? i can go meet up with him
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actually this is the 18th? internet trade - mostly in lelong. First time this has happened... thought i was pretty careful too, vetting the feedback..it's not really the money ( even though it is money, and whatver money matters ) that's making me pissed off..it's the being taken for a ride thats making me feel a retribution is in the offing...

QUOTE(daniel_lyw @ Dec 16 2007, 06:10 PM)
@klmc

lelong is actually in the list... his name less the "l" a d...haha some1 paste less a word cool2.gif
he is lelong2007 in this page

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okiee, well, anyway - need another body to go along on the trip? Slightly interested to see what kind'a person this one is ..
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ya..those who live in KL should find a time meet strongbaby to settle the case together.. but dun scare his family la.. try dun act as a big ear hole(dai yi long).. talk peacefully.. discuss nicely.. no rude.. no foul language..

btw.. if he gonna refund.. it is ascendingly follow the refund list at the 1st page of this thread rite?
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dont u guys get it...
it is the courtesy of giving us an update only...
that seems so hard meh?
then what about some of us...saving up a thousand over ringgit just to buy something they like...
then all of the suddenly that cannot come...worst still maybe cannot get back the $$$

if he is really in trouble, he can just ask us for some extended dateline or paying by portion...
i'm sure we, as well as he will show some conscience to work something out right??

but now the problem is no update...no nothing...just some of u all get his sms or talked to him... rclxub.gif

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I'm pretty sick of hearing ppl say lets be the good guys here.. the good guys give chance... let me tell u, the good guys kill ppl, they kill all the baddies to save the other useless ppl. The good doesnt let a person walk all over another person. So unless u're thinking of those fantasy good guys the real good guys here r gonna do what it takes to get a win for the team.

azman4243, repost the ur refund tag when u emailed him, thx.
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QUOTE(daniel_lyw @ Dec 17 2007, 12:46 AM)
dont u guys get it...
it is the courtesy of giving us an update only...
that seems so hard meh?
then what about some of us...saving up a thousand over ringgit just to buy something they like...
then all of the suddenly that cannot come...worst still maybe cannot get back the $$$

if he is really in trouble, he can just ask us for some extended dateline or paying by portion...
i'm sure we, as well as he will show some conscience to work something out right??

but now the problem is no update...no nothing...just some of u all get his sms or talked to him... rclxub.gif
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ya, I agree with you... the no update thing is very bad. he got very bad way of doing business.

One thing I cant understand is, why is he taking so much stocks from that supplier. Imagine handing over such a big amount of money and dont even know can get stock or not.

Since strongbaby says he make police report on this supplier, I am sure he has a copy... strongbaby post that police report here ( if confidential, just blank the name+ic of that supplier ), asking his customer to go to police station to buy the report does not sound like he is in trouble or need any help.

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If you guys were smart you'd be able to sense something when he was having the same problem delivering different goods. Judging from the post which he told everyone about how he dealt with the "so-called" supplier. It is so unbelievable that he can actually trust someone whom he doesnt have any info about and worse yet have to deal at difference various places. This whole thing is not about strongbaby being a victim or not. It's about him selling goods and receiving money from buyers so he has the responsibility to make sure everything goes right. As what I can see from here he doesn't even bother to give his buyer ANY updates AT ALL. I can see that he probably won't be able to get the money back anymore if what he said about his supplier is true but how many of you have actually received his refund? It seems like he's not trying at all to take the responsibility. In fact, he's avoiding it.
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i'm a bit confused here,can someone quote me how many Ringgit Malaysia had he took into his pockets ?
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QUOTE(tsd @ Dec 17 2007, 12:03 AM)
actually I feel strongbaby has no intention to cheat any of us. it is just that he ran into trouble with his supplier. If you feel that you have problem with your money, just imagine how much problem he is facing and how much money he is losing. Please dont just think about yourself, think about him and his family also.

When he delivers you all with cheap things, he earns little while all of you save lots of money... some of you may even sell it for profits. Now he have problem, everyone just dump him, threatened him, make police reports and etc... everyone just want to benefit from him.

I am his customer too, I am not seeking refund in this manner. Large scale adhoc refund will hurt him even more and please dont forget, think carefully, if he collapsed... none of us will get anything. It will not do you, him or anyone any good.
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i am noob in business but at least I remember something like "customer always right"
a good business is like symbiosis, he earns some commission and we can save some money by waiting for some period. But for many reasons, his other products other than consoles are facing the exact problems for not able to deliver at time, for some items like comp hardware, the values get depreciated very fast, wait anything longer than 2 months won't make you feel satisfied

it's not about pity or not pity, you can see that actually his current situation is due to his mistakes in overly trusting a solo supplier. We dont know about the details but he is giving us the picture. Solo agent/supplier with 5 figure cash in and wait for goods.

And don't play the imagine game, you think every buyers here are rich? If I couldn't get the PSP and couldn't get the refund, then I might have to wait till Feb only I could prepare the cash for buying another. And that's just RM500, not the RM5000 part of stories.

As an advice to potential forum bulk sellers, please be very sure about your supplier credibility, and also do not take in big amount of orders if you don't have much emergency cash in case of nasty events. It's like going to casino, do not gamble in big if you know you couldn't afford to lose, do not just depend on lucks all the time.

Finally I must thank strongbaby for a darn cheap PSP anyway
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I was interested in getting an LCD monitor from SB, but when I saw him opening up so many bulk threads I changed my mind.

BTW... who actually went to the police station to check on the police report (on supplier) by SB? He even gave a report number you know. And all it takes is RM10 to get a copy. The report number is 08407.
I've got a feeling no one actually bothered.

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guys,
those who seen him b4. i need ur help
btw the 2 address posted in the 1st page...
which 1 is his actual place??
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QUOTE(cannavaro @ Dec 17 2007, 02:16 AM)
I was interested in getting an LCD monitor from SB, but when I saw him opening up so many bulk threads I changed my mind.

BTW... who actually went to the police station to check on the police report (on supplier) by SB? He even gave a report number you know. And all it takes is RM10 to get a copy. The report number is 08407.
I've got a feeling no one actually bothered.
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getting a friend to check it out..he says you have to go to the specific police station to ask for the report..so if anyone wants to check it out, have to go to cheras..thats y i'm getting a fren to do it..
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QUOTE(zx12 @ Dec 17 2007, 02:54 AM)
getting a friend to check it out..he says you have to go to the specific police station to ask for the report..so if anyone wants to check it out, have to go to cheras..thats y i'm getting a fren to do it..
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Wow..alright..guess we can finally know what happened..Good Job..
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nope, just a lurker, not related to anybody, no active posting and never buy / sell .. don't bother to investigate, i post because the whole things amazes me  tongue.gif
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You phailed.... Registered yesterday and said something like that.

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QUOTE(whatcanisay @ Dec 16 2007, 06:23 PM)
total RM63,719 and counting.. i recon the end figures will exceed RM120k..

it is absolutely amazing how (Strongbaby|Female) able to annexed such a huge sum of money.. this case also proved that a female screen name + a female gender registration will lower the guard of the potential depositors..

as for the name Strongbaby, psychologycally, when a person is is struggling and fighting, he or she will subconciously chose a (screen) name that he or she needs to live up to.. like.. i need to be strong.. i need to overcome .. .. ..

Strongbaby collected hundred of thousand and redeposited it into a freelancer account with no business registration and sales office and meeting up on random location to receive the goods? it is either he is completely insane or he telling a stupids lies, i choose the later..

so is this a well thought out plan to lure depositers? a well thought out plan will have phantom name, IC, bank account, address and most important no personal touch, i.e. no meeting up..

i recon Strongbaby is in business and his business is in financial trouble so he would like to borrow some from LYNers.. how you may ask.. easy.. bulks varies goods and collect deposit and 'take them' in a manner say.. RM10k as a block, when third/fourth block is collected then go buy goods at a slight losses to 'supply' the first block depositors.. a good plan, better than paying loan shark interest and probably better than personal loan interest..

then business must be getting from bad to worse.. (it explained how and why sometimes his PM|SMS|Call can be so rude and arrogant).. he could no longer supply the earlier block and the whole things burst.. his life is now in deep shit.. financial trouble + having a whole bunch of LYNers very angry with him..

bad news: most of the depositors money are probably vanished by now

bad news: there is nothing much that a depositor can do.. the law is on your side only to persue legal action to demand refund from Strongbaby, he is breaking a civil sales contract, don't expect the police, the army, the marine and the bank officer | manager to help you..

imagine this.. you go to the neighbourhood computer shop to buy a HDD and the staff tell you no stock and the staff require you to make full upfront payment for them to order for you and you foolishly paid them.. and.. after repeated visit to the said computer shop and they fail to supply you with the HDD.. what do you do? you ask for a refund, and if after repeated request and demand you still fail to get your refund what do you do? lodge a police report? no no no.. this has nothing to do with the police.. you go to the bank in an attemps to freeze their account? no no no.. the bank manager will not entertain you.. in such a case you go to the consumer tribunal court to demand a refund..

DO NOT use your Hand and your Leg to convince Strongbaby for a immediate refund, you can be arrested immediately by the police and put into a jail for taking such action..

bad news: the individual amount is small, so no  pleasure of putting him into bankruptcy to vent your anger, there is really nothing much that you can do..

bad news: your only chance is to prove to the police|court that Strongbaby is a con artist and that he should be put in jail, you can forget about going after his bank account because if he still has any money left it would have been transfered out already..

anyway congrat Strongbaby, you are absolutely brilliant..
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Yes ...agree with most of your points here

Normal Police station will not able or bother to do anything

Report must be lodge at Commercial Crime and anti Cyber Crime in Bukit Aman , this report is not to accuse strongbaby of anything

This report will provide us how is the business is setup and run , who are the main supplier and agent involved ,
, whether there is foul play involve and THE MOST IMPORTANT of all is whether strongbaby is telling the truth .

If he is telling the truth then scenario will be very different ...we could pool resources together to help him workout a plan , ..I have a lot contacts in banking area and might able to help him on this ..and I am sure there are other members can help out in many other ways

However if he has been prove to be a liar after investigation ..then ....

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You can report this to the mod and let them check it out ...no problem

@whatcanisay

Dont worry about the flaming you receive here , I have been called "troublemaker" , "hadap for promotion tag " and many other things

Don't draw into argument with them , remember they are frustrated at the moment by all this , just understand their feeling

me involved ? nope , as I have doubt over this since the day one but sadly few of my friends were caught into this ...for one this has been a constant argument with his wife and another who has save a long time for his son birthday

i determine to get to the bottom of this and will make strongbaby pay if he is really lying on this matter

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@heroes99... What makes u think reporting to Commercial Crime and anti Cyber Crime in Bukit Aman will help us..? They directly so investgate and gve us answer within a week or 2..? How efficient ar these parties..? Do they seriously look into this matter or just accept your report and leave there till it rots?

U wan to know how the setup of the business is running same as the other bulks, Supplier receive money from SB, Item sent to SB, SB send item to us.. But now turns out to be wrong. and i see SB has no fault in this for his business, he did sent my GC and he is responsible, but when your supplier runs, what can u do.. U tell me.. the only way is to find the supplier right..

Why not u go follow SB go catch the supplier rather then wasting ur typing in here.. U catch oredy can get the refunds la..


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QUOTE(tsd @ Dec 17 2007, 07:31 AM)
heroes99, since you are so concerned... why not you spend RM10 to get a copy of the police report ? from that report, I am sure you can come out with juicier story.
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yes ..I read that someone is going , if not I wll go there today ..is it the Police Station in CHeras , 4th mile near Jusco Maluri ??

I will post the report here today once I get the report ...

Can someone just sms me the location as I will no be online after this ....


I think I will take a cab there as I am not really familiar with Cheras

my number is 014 3338766


Added on December 17, 2007, 8:34 am
QUOTE(StratOS @ Dec 17 2007, 08:29 AM)
@heroes99... What makes u think reporting to Commercial Crime and anti Cyber Crime in Bukit Aman will help us..? They directly so investgate and gve us answer within a week or 2..? How efficient ar these parties..? Do they seriously look into this matter or just accept your report and leave there till it rots?

U wan to know how the setup of the business is running same as the other bulks, Supplier receive money from SB, Item sent to SB, SB send item to us.. But now turns out to be wrong. and i see SB has no fault in this for his business, he did sent my GC and he is responsible, but when your supplier runs, what can u do.. U tell me.. the only way is to find the supplier right..

Why not u go follow SB go catch the supplier rather then wasting ur typing in here.. U catch oredy can get the refunds la..
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by reporting , and I am confident they will act as the officer there is close friend of my father

I hope I can get a real picture whether strongbaby is telling the truth or not , since he does not want to post here at all...if he is genuine , then this a difficult time for him and need all the help he can get ...I will use my contacts in the bank to help secure some personal loans and at least refund some amount out and work out the monthly refunding plan ..it might be very small monthly but if he is genuine then a lot consideration should be given

Everyone goes through a tough time in his life , the most important thing is been honest and sincere

meanwhile we can pool our resources together to track the supplier once strongbaby provide us with the details

but if he is lying ...I will make sure he pay for this and really pay for it

ok..is the group to see strongbaby been form already ..I can go anytime ..

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QUOTE(heroes99 @ Dec 17 2007, 08:31 AM)
yes ..I read that someone is going , if not I wll go there today ..is it the Police Station in CHeras , 4th mile near Jusco Maluri ??

I will post the report here today once I get the report ...

Can someone just sms me the location as I will no be online after this ....
I think I will take a cab there as I am not really familiar with Cheras

my number is 014 3338766


Added on December 17, 2007, 8:34 am
by reporting , and I am confident they will act as the officer there is close friend of my father

I hope I can get a real picture whether strongbaby is telling the truth or not , since he does not want to post here at all...if he is genuine , then this a difficult time for him and need all the help he can get ...I will use my contacts in the bank to help secure some personal loans and at least refund some amount out and work out the monthly refunding plan ..it might be very small monthly but if he is genuine then a lot consideration should be given

Everyone goes through a tough time in his life , the most important thing is been honest and sincere

meanwhile we can pool our resources together to track the supplier once strongbaby provide us with the details 

but if he is lying ...I will make sure he pay for this and really pay for it

ok..is the group to see strongbaby been form already ..I can go anytime ..
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It seems like Heroes99 is doing something that buyers should be doing themselves much much earlier, that is to
get the police report. And if Heroes99 failed to get the report, he need to shut up instead smile.gif.

Strongbaby is making a big mistake by not posting here. Although mass refund will bring down Strongbaby, he
still get our support if he post here. Since Strongbaby is not posting here, what do you guys think we should do?
Is drastic measure more appropriate? Does some buyer here still feel like protecting strongbaby? Is strongbaby
a conman? If strongbaby is not a conman, why he does not bother to post here?


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yesterday nite i sms SB but not reply from from him. asking him about the processor unit status. reply sms also so susah meh SB. doh.gif
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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Dec 17 2007, 09:39 AM)
It seems like Heroes99 is doing something that buyers should be doing themselves much much earlier, that is to
get the police report. And if Heroes99 failed to get the report, he need to shut up instead smile.gif.

Strongbaby is making a big mistake by not posting here. Although mass refund will bring down Strongbaby, he
still get our support if he post here. Since Strongbaby is not posting here, what do you guys think we should do?
Is drastic measure more appropriate? Does some buyer here still feel like protecting strongbaby? Is strongbaby
a conman? If strongbaby is not a conman, why he does not bother to post here?
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Well, let's get to the point here. I don't mean to add more fuel to fire.
heroes99 isn't involved in this case while I'm partly disagree what he is trying to assume.
Getting the police report is not the point. The main point here is someone is trying to FORCE strongbaby to squeeze his own juice and refund.

1st, I'm not protecting strongbaby here. I'm protecting both players.
Keep on squeezing, lodge report, go court, if only strongbaby was found guilty, he'll be sent to jail. All of us get nothing but air to breath.
THT, 20k is not a small amount. I know that you've been ignored but try to bear with us.(I'll try to talk with strongbaby to ask about ur matter when I sms him next time.) And THT again, if strongbaby was jailed because of this, the question latter on will pop, where you gonna squeeze yourself a 20k either for yourself or your customers/friends.

2nd, IF someone assume or said strongbaby is a conmen, I won't stop you from doing so. It's normal when your hard-earn money is on other hands. Besides, strongbaby isn't running from you either, else he won't ask you all to mail him on your refund details.

3rd, I'm not stronbaby sideman nor anything related to him. I'm someone like everyone here, looking to buy a cheap console and now looking for refund as advised by strongbaby.

I'm hoping no more flame. Asking is ok but flaming and ranting, you know, it's pointless. Think twice or thrice what I've said, I, myself also patiently wait for it. Infact, I can wait longer if strongbaby able to return to business but with the supplier missing, I have no option to choose than ask refund.

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Didnt we first squeeze our own juice to get the money to buy? I think its only fair we return the favour.

And although a few of them did mention not to say their nicks, quite a few of bulkers in the dispute a few months back r there because SB pulled the same bs on them. N they had to squeeze their own juice to refund the buyers n r still waiting for sb to refund them.

So if u think we should not squeeze his juice because of his family n such nonsense then imagine the other bulkers that had to refund because they took him as their supplier?

N as for his family, he has only himself to blame for the troubles he created for them. When u play high risks u had better think thrice before commiting... whether it was intentional or not intentional (fraud).
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why is everyone flaming heroes99 - he seems to be pretty pro active.

Maybe can get input from people here before going half cocked and doing something solo though....
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QUOTE(RangerRed @ Dec 17 2007, 10:33 AM)
Didnt we first squeeze our own juice to get the money to buy? I think its only fair we return the favour.

And although a few of them did mention not to say their nicks, quite a few of bulkers in the dispute a few months back r there because SB pulled the same bs on them. N they had to squeeze their own juice to refund the buyers n r still waiting for sb to refund them.

So if u think we should not squeeze his juice because of his family n such nonsense then imagine the other bulkers that had to refund because they took him as their supplier?

N as for his family, he has only himself to blame for the troubles he created for them. When u play high risks u had better think thrice before commiting... whether it was intentional or not intentional (fraud).
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RangerRed, I have no doubt for a piece of advice from you. I always had you in my respected list.

I didn't mean to go against it, as what I really want to mentioned out is that the consequences.(below)

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if only strongbaby was found guilty, he'll be sent to jail. All of us get nothing but air to breath.


I think this is quite logic. And also prepare for the worst case before this, he run. Stop refunding everyone. So, another story with the same ending, we get nothing but the money goes to thin air.

P/S : strongbaby is refunding.... Please start to ease your mind.


Added on December 17, 2007, 11:16 am
QUOTE(klmc @ Dec 17 2007, 11:02 AM)
why is everyone flaming heroes99 - he seems to be pretty pro active.

Maybe can get input from people here before going half cocked and doing something solo though....
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Actually, if he post a little help would do. But he had start to keep posting with FLAME within.
Trust me, not many of us welcome him to post here since from the START, he doesn't even involved in this trade.

Another thing is that I'm quite headache, RangerRed had pressed this is REFUND THREAD not DISPUTE THREAD. I don't understand why someone had started to dispute him since he had start to refund everyone here.

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QUOTE(temptation1314 @ Dec 17 2007, 11:11 AM)
RangerRed, I have no doubt for a piece of advice from you. I always had you in my respected list.

I didn't mean to go against it, as what I really want to mentioned out is that the consequences.(below)
I think this is quite logic. And also prepare for the worst case before this, he run. Stop refunding everyone. So, another story with the same ending, we get nothing but the money goes to thin air.

P/S : strongbaby is refunding.... Please start to ease your mind.


Added on December 17, 2007, 11:16 am
Actually, if he post a little help would do. But he had start to keep posting with FLAME within.
Trust me, not many of us welcome him to post here since from the START, he doesn't even involved in this trade.

Another thing is that I'm quite headache, RangerRed had pressed this is REFUND THREAD not DISPUTE THREAD. I don't understand why someone had started to dispute him since he had start to refund everyone here.
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hi temptation..wat u mean SB is refunding?..who received the refund edi?
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QUOTE(dokidoki @ Dec 17 2007, 11:19 AM)
hi temptation..wat u mean SB is refunding?..who received the refund edi?
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SB is refunding <- Can't you read?
who received the refund edi? <- Don't ask me. Wait for update from SB.
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temptation1314, I pretty sure it is safe to say that was he refunding ppl there wont be anyone not ready to jump in n say he was refunded n what a great guy SB is. But the fact remains the same. Aint happening. N was he really getting the money to refund I am sure he could at least clear 2K-4K of refunds on the list (following the strategy of giving a small refund to THT then coming back to THT when he hits the 9th person after THT). N should anyone really believe that he is gathering one huge lump sum to refund all of us at one go they r dreaming.

Let's face facts, we r not getting our money back. This refund list is just a document of the money SB owes ppl. If we were to get a refund u should go a 4D number relating to the day, time n amount he refunded u. How this document is used to settle SB or punish him will be left to be seen.
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the writing style is the same as SB.Mods do a check?I can 90% confirm is SB,a new user wont be posting the same replies in every SB thread
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QUOTE(choyster @ Dec 17 2007, 12:22 PM)
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the writing style is the same as SB.Mods do a check?I can 90% confirm is SB,a new user wont be posting the same replies in every SB thread
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could it be his duplicate id?
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could it be his duplicate id?
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if is SB post that? i think all the buyer is screwed.
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QUOTE(StratOS @ Dec 17 2007, 08:29 AM)
@heroes99... What makes u think reporting to Commercial Crime and anti Cyber Crime in Bukit Aman will help us..? They directly so investgate and gve us answer within a week or 2..? How efficient ar these parties..? Do they seriously look into this matter or just accept your report and leave there till it rots?

U wan to know how the setup of the business is running same as the other bulks, Supplier receive money from SB, Item sent to SB, SB send item to us.. But now turns out to be wrong. and i see SB has no fault in this for his business, he did sent my GC and he is responsible, but when your supplier runs, what can u do.. U tell me.. the only way is to find the supplier right..

Why not u go follow SB go catch the supplier rather then wasting ur typing in here.. U catch oredy can get the refunds la..
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First of all, I'm not the one who "still waiting for money or item". But you are telling all of us that your transactions is work fine...so I think you should thank god for that. The problem is... they had paid and wait but does not get the item.

I wonder if you were in the shoe of RM20k buyer I hope you help SB to find the Supplier.... rclxm9.gif


- Supplier <-- if at this stage got a problem Strong Baby should be worrying.
- Strong Baby <--got profit here so SB should be responsible for any lost.
- Buyer <---not even care about supplier problem because buyer are buying from SB, so anything suspicious just look for SB.

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QUOTE(vex @ Dec 17 2007, 01:01 PM)
if is SB post that? i think all the buyer is screwed.
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I don't think its SB coz SB meet up with some forumers.
But whether its SB or not, according to RangerRed, all buyer is screwed.
To get a refund is a miracle now. If really get, need to buy 4D number
with the date of refund.

So I guess there's no other way than to do something more drastic. I
don't know what. But since RangerRed is the head of this refund (since
he also one of the buyer), maybe all buyer need to come here and
discuss what to do. And maybe talk about this is private thread. Don't
let SB know what we're doing.
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QUOTE(vex @ Dec 17 2007, 01:01 PM)
if is SB post that? i think all the buyer is screwed.
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i really prayed hard it's not. i still have rm6k worth at his place, with another rm6k ETA in coming months sweat.gif
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When you guys sound so negative about this, SB is probably laughing his head off now. Think about it. If you're SB and you read all of these replies, will you be telling yourself that you've succeed?

It's time for you guys to take some action instead of sitting front of your computers and do nothing.
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QUOTE(jdreamer @ Dec 17 2007, 01:47 PM)
When you guys sound so negative about this, SB is probably laughing his head off now. Think about it. If you're SB and you read all of these replies, will you be telling yourself that you've succeed?

It's time for you guys to take some action instead of sitting front of your computers and do nothing.
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But, let's say, SB is really conman. I didn't say SB is really conman. But just let's say he is.

He is too good you know. Here is the reason why some forumers still think SB will refund or ship their stuff:

a)Strongbaby met with some forumers - with this he gain trust
b)Strongbaby sold thousands of ringgits of products - if he is fraud, then very hard for us to trust anyone
c)Some forumers get his products - like PSP. This way, some forumers vouch for him. Until now, we can't say he is conman.
d)Strongbaby reply sms and email - this way, some forumers still think he will not run
e)No one checking the police report - until now no one go and check

With all the points above, all the buyer is not united. Some still think SB will refund and that's why
still protecting SB. No one dare to take action because they scared the ship will sink. But according
to RangerRed, the ship already sank. Just that some forumers still have wishful thinking that SB
will refund.

If the above is correct and SB is con artist, means SB is really good.

But if strongbaby is not conman, then he really a bad seller for not replying sms, email or thread.

Conclusion, looks like what RangerRed say is true.
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As a general rule, now of days I do not believe in paying in full or perhaps set a limit as to what you are prepared to write off in case the Seller is a conman.

My previous experience was with a trader at Lelong and subsequently in Low Yat was that he would offer cheap processor. In fact he will actually send you the first processor. After that he will offer more things for sale always at a cheaper price and that is where he goes for the kill. I banked in about RM600 to get a second processor and he sent me an empty box. I made a complaint to Lelong which gave his a dispute tag. He later contacted me to remove the tag and he refunded my money.

But unknown to me he had in fact caught a bigger fish, I think an amount of RM6,000 banked in by another forumer in LowYat and the dispute tag was removed so that he could proceed to con the bigger fish. That is the beauty of online trading, we do not know how many people is owed until a refund list is put up.

I am not trying to rub any insults into the members injury but I wish to say that too many times this has happened on the guise of "cheap" things we are drawn by our own greed. If you read most con post the victims always have to beg the socalled "supplier" for a refund. If you read his response is like I give you the following options take it or leave it?

I strongly believe that if you have taken people's money, he has an obligation to refund no matter if he had given money to his supplier. If he is sincere, he would have given us updates.

Why does an outsider have to get a report. Put up the police report on the first page if any of the "victims" has even bothered to get a copy of the report.

My observation are:

1. Most of the banks here do not assist the victims in freezing the account. Even on whether they have done proper verification on the identity is in doubt. Why are scammers so daring to give IC and account number if we can trace them easily?
2. Police. Nothing to say looking at Poweredge case.
3. Administrators can only provide a forum. Whether they have done enough to make inquiries is another issue.
4. We don't know the extent of the loss until a list is drawn up.
5. Forumers are never united or they lack initiative. A lot of talk like lets beat up so and so but a police report is also very rare to come by.
6. A lot of dreamers hoping to be nice to the seller hoping that out of his or her good heart he will get a refund.

I hope that by sharing this we can all be vigilant and stop people from abusing our trust in LowYat. There are many great sellers who are genuine but there will always be a shark out there due to the above weaknesses.






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I juz called SB as he din reply my sms a few days back,
thought he wont pick up the phone but he did!

I ask about the status and he said he is finding the main supplier.
then I ask about the waiting period n refund problem,
he juz said put me in the refund list n will suggest those waiting buyers do so
though i'm still hoping to get my ndsl (but SB said dunno nid to wait how long since supplier missing)
as he said the refund will also take some time. (n I dun think the refund will b clear in another a month or 2, mayb even 3 or 4)

haiz...
waiting for 30 working days, cant get the console. sad.gif
now need to wait for another period(dunno how long) to get the money back. cry.gif

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That's what we can a non-interest loan. Kick in the 30% admin fees if i was to allow it then u r paying him 30% to loan him money when he returns u that money.

Or u could wait for the goods. For another 2 months or 3.

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Just throwing it out there - there's certain 'debt collection agencies' that has various ways to get the cash back ....
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waiting for the police report now...scan em and post em....
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Has anyone sms heroes99 for the location? he is asking for it.

I scared he come back to this thread and say no one sms him and
he dunno where is the police station and continue to post other stuff here.

I wonder why there's no initiative from buyers to get the report? It actually
show how much you want back your money right? I really hope that SB
really return the money.
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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Dec 17 2007, 03:38 PM)
Has anyone sms heroes99 for the location? he is asking for it.

I scared he come back to this thread and say no one sms him and
he dunno where is the police station and continue to post other stuff here.

I wonder why there's no initiative from buyers to get the report? It actually
show how much you want back your money right? I really hope that SB
really return the money.
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itu report cost rm 10 leh ... they lost rm 500 for the psp liao, still need to lost rm 10 for a piece a paper meh ... who want to do so wow.
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So where is the place to get the report ? ..so far only received calls but it is on suggestion on how to solve the problem ..

Anyone know where it is ? It is already 4pm now .because of the jam as I live in PJ ...i think can only go at night ...plus I have to take a cab ..so let me know the location ...my number is 014 3338766

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QUOTE(heroes99 @ Dec 17 2007, 03:43 PM)
So where is the place to get the report ? ..so far only received calls but it is on suggestion on how to solve the problem ..

Anyone know where it is ? It is already 4pm now .because of the jam as I live in PJ ...i think can only go at night ...plus I have to take a cab ..so let me know the location ...my number is 014 3338766
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crap, really no ppl told u how to get der ?
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crap, really no ppl told u how to get der ?
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just came back and no sms yet about the location ...if anyone know let me know , I will be offline now ...
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QUOTE(heroes99 @ Dec 17 2007, 03:51 PM)
just came back and no sms yet about the location ...if anyone know let me know , I will be offline now ...
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Maluri, Jusco, next to it got 1 police station.
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QUOTE(RangerRed @ Dec 17 2007, 03:48 PM)
Received another a HP of SB from a kind and fellow LYN. Updated in 1st post.
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ranger is it he's using 016 or 012? cos i got his 016 only. hmm.gif
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SMS it to him.
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i sms him the 016 that he first time sms me about the deal. then yesterday i sms him using the same number also got no reply from him. blush.gif
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Was referring to gogo2 tongue.gif

For of u heroes hp is 014 3338766

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Was referring to gogo2 tongue.gif

For of u heroes hp is 014 3338766
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ok thanks ..gogo2 ...so the report number is 08407

I will go tonight after the traffic ...do anyone have scanner ? maybe I will get it scan in a shop ...should able to post this up by tomorrow b4 lunch
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Dammit lar.
Take STAR LRT and ask the guard there. I'm not sure what station is it to stop but It's Ampang line. You can see jusco from the station.
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Dammit lar.
Take STAR LRT and ask the guard there. I'm not sure what station is it to stop but It's Ampang line. You can see jusco from the station.
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I roughly know where Jusco is , so should able to find the police station tonight

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If there is a report... we need to verify that the person in the report is a real person not just a fake name used a smoke screen incase a situation like this came up.
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QUOTE(temptation1314 @ Dec 17 2007, 04:20 PM)
Dammit lar.
Take STAR LRT and ask the guard there. I'm not sure what station is it to stop but It's Ampang line. You can see jusco from the station.
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Station Maluri.

Or any buyer can call the number below and ask about the report:

Alamat : IPD Cheras
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I'm in Penang. Calling to KL is quite expensive for me.
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QUOTE(RangerRed @ Dec 17 2007, 04:25 PM)
If there is a report... we need to verify that the person in the report is a real person not just a fake name used a smoke screen incase a situation like this came up.
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will try to get more information once I am there ...will update here ....


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hopefully that we can see the full reports from heroes. notworthy.gif
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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Dec 17 2007, 04:26 PM)
Station Maluri.

Or any buyer can call the number below and ask about the report:

Alamat :  IPD Cheras
Ibupejabat Polis Daerah Cheras
56100 Kuala Lumpur.
Telefon :  03-92842222
Faks :  03-92879479

I'm in Penang. Calling to KL is quite expensive for me.
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Just call the 92842222 and spoke to a person name Aikal ( Extension 235) , not sure about the spelling ...give him the report number but he ask for a date which I am not sure but he ask me to call back later whether the report is there ....

Need to log off now ..will update more on this

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heroes99, since we're not trusting anyone now, let me give some scenario:

Scenario 1
You didn't go to police station. You just tell us tommorow that there're no police report.
Then you just make SB look like a conman. And we all start to lodge police report. The
reason is that you don't like SB.

Scenario 2
You got the report. SB did file a report. Problem is, he is faking the report.

Scenario 3
As RangerRed said, its just smokescreen

I hope scenario 1 won't happened. Heroes99, hope you get the report.
I'm sure the report number is online. Maybe you ask the police whether
there's such report number in their computer.


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QUOTE(heroes99 @ Dec 17 2007, 04:31 PM)
Just call the 92842222 and spoke to a person name Aikal ( Extension 235)  , not sure about the spelling ...give him the report number but he ask for a date which I am not sure but he  ask me to call back later whether the report is there ....

Need to log off now ..will update more on this
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Some of you should call this number.

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Just call the 92842222 and spoke to a person name Aikal ( Extension 235)  , not sure about the spelling ...give him the report number but he ask for a date which I am not sure but he  ask me to call back later whether the report is there ....

Need to log off now ..will update more on this
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goods job...i belanja u minium tea.
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JUST chatting with SB via msn messenger and he told me that supplier MIA. So i guess that REFUND is the solution. blush.gif
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I got another hp number for SB will be posting it up.
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JUST chatting with SB via msn messenger and he told me that supplier MIA. So i guess that REFUND is the solution.  blush.gif
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He said that on Dec 7th. Tell me another tale he's gonna sing to u.
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Received this email today at 4:47pm from SB. Found it my yahoo mail. Only reason i looked there cuz i asked him [17:35] scorping: what is the progress, pray tell, for the refund?

Hi

Kindly check your bank account.

Acknowledge it when received.

Thank you

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So i'll let u guys know what happens in a few mins when i logon to rhb bank.

Santa really gave us or me an xmas miracle. Don't open the champaign yet lads but get ready to cheer!

[17:35] scorping: what is the progress, pray tell, for the refund?
[17:36] Strongbaby: ?
[17:36] Strongbaby: check ur email
[17:42] scorping: did u send by interbank giro?
[17:42] scorping: or counter pay in?
[17:43] Strongbaby: direct machine
[17:44] Strongbaby: just go check and acknowledge.
[17:44] Strongbaby: gtg
[17:46] scorping: Will update the thread.
[17:47] scorping: And thank you. It finally happened. And you could have handle it better. And I could have handle it better but then we are human so that how it plays out in the end.
[17:50] Strongbaby: those received they will shout out theirself in thread
[17:50] Strongbaby: catch up again, ciao



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So i'll let u guys know what happens in a few mins when i logon to rhb bank.
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i think need 1 day process, if after 12pm.
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karising, u're way down the list..............
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RangerRed received the payment from strongbaby already. congra to you!!! rclxms.gif
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Good start!
Hope it wont stop refund half way!





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Added on December 17, 2007, 5:59 pmSo now is start clearing.
Sometime don't push people so hard.
Actually i myself also worry my money. But anything can happen.


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karising, u're way down the list..............
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same as kengsim... we still keep our hope until today... hardly can trust anyone anymore...

I had a suggestion to RengerRed and the moderator, Do not allow the bulk order to be more than 10 MOQ each, must clear the current 10 MOQ before proceed to the next.

I think this should reduce big failed bulk order like this...

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SB has told me that THT is getting his 1st mini refund of RM200. So he is following the list it seems. And I asked him whether those that have not ask a refund for their PSP, should I advice them to wait a little longer to see if their items arrive or ask for a refund, he says go straight to refund.
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Good start!
Hope it wont stop refund half way!
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Yeah... that is a good start. Keep refunding... thumbup.gif
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i juz received his sms few minutes ago and he say he is refund to me.. im goin to check later.. update soon
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QUOTE(RangerRed @ Dec 17 2007, 06:30 PM)
SB has told me that THT is getting his 1st mini refund of RM200. So he is following the list it seems. And I asked him whether those that have not ask a refund for their PSP, should I advice them to wait a little longer to see if their items arrive or ask for a refund, he says go straight to refund.
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Just now chat with him, he say he will refund follow his list!

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just chat with SB and he say no chance to get my item so i ask for refund cry.gif
please add me to the list :
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That is very promising news smile.gif

All is not lost now, but I do hope SB keeps up the refund. In the mean time, how about posting your supplier's details and take appropriate measures against him/her. A police report won't do enough.
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well i get my little RM100 . but donno is form SB or not lol ? form maybank .

coz i have many olnline coustomer . any one can tell me how to verify ?? thx

do maybank have detail of transfer like CIMB >??


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QUOTE(Kenny83 @ Dec 17 2007, 06:41 PM)
Just now chat with him, he say he will refund follow his list!
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What the ...................................
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QUOTE(nagflar @ Dec 17 2007, 06:50 PM)
well i get my little RM100 . but donno is form SB or not lol ? form maybank .

coz i have many olnline coustomer . any one can tell me how to verify ?? thx 

do maybank have detail of transfer like CIMB >??
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If from SB then he sure inform u by sms or email.Do u receive his sms or email?
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if he follow his list how do we know whose turn's next?
besides with a couple of transaction per day it is hard to know whether it is SB's refund or client/frens/etc
at least post his listing of refund? if he got no time to update them , we can do so
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QUOTE(Synco @ Dec 17 2007, 07:21 PM)
if he follow his list how do we know whose turn's next?
besides with a couple of transaction per day it is hard to know whether it is SB's refund or client/frens/etc
at least post his listing of refund? if he got no time to update them , we can do so
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Truth be told, I don't see why he would have to follow the list. Its not the law or anything. I'm content as long as I get the refund. But I do wish to know exactly what list he's following. hmm.gif
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i guess he is refunding based on the person that is making the most noise in this thread tongue.gif
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Then i should be refunded x10!!!

I'll pm, msn him concerning the order of refunds.
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i received the refund oledi..thanks strongbaby.. RangerRed.. erase me from the refundment list..
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it would be better if SB list down the refund list.

the luckiest one will be at the top of the list tongue.gif
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See this topic for few weeks already. Finally list for refund because SB ask me email for refund.

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QUOTE(nagflar @ Dec 17 2007, 07:50 PM)
well i get my little RM100 . but donno is form SB or not lol ? form maybank .

coz i have many olnline coustomer . any one can tell me how to verify ?? thx 

do maybank have detail of transfer like CIMB >??
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QUOTE(nagflar @ Dec 17 2007, 06:50 PM)
well i get my little RM100 . but donno is form SB or not lol ? form maybank .

coz i have many olnline coustomer . any one can tell me how to verify ?? thx 

do maybank have detail of transfer like CIMB >??
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yup .. i sure is from SB ..Latest update get RM200 .


SB SMS ME : " BETTER THAN NOTHING "



Balance as Today (17-12-2007) -----RM19880

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well i get my little RM100 . but donno is form SB or not lol ? form maybank .

coz i have many olnline coustomer . any one can tell me how to verify ?? thx 

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izizt that RM100 is SB refund for you or other customer?
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i guess he is refunding based on the person that is making the most noise in this thread tongue.gif
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After long time waiting, finally me in Next status of item shipment. But SB in big trouble.. Well, i think i'm kind enough. Never receive any reply from him, other than 1st time reply with bankin detail. Just wait patiently so far, without any complain.I doubt my HP can't sms KL line or wat... But seem everyone ask for refund now, guess no hope to receive my PSP lite.. So just add me to the list.. And another long time waiting for refund again i guess.. Never expected to buy a thing to be so hard.

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I see strongbaby is refunding that is very good news ..at last ...

Some updates on the police report

This really time wasting , according to the officer , we are not allow to get the report unless strongbaby himself or he gave us a authorizes letter ????? and he don't even bother to check whether the report is there or not ??? He said it take along time to search for a report especially without dates ...." how come this report is not online ???"

I will call this aikal guy again tomorrow as he promise to find out for me about the report but when I arrive there he already off duty ......will go there again tomorrow , to see whether i can get anything ...

But with strongbaby starting the refund , this I guess is secondary matter now ...can strongbaby just post up the report or how do get authorize letter from him ..and for the info it cost only RM2 for the report

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Do hope can get my refund soon. My friends keep bugging me and want me to fork out own money to pay them back. sad.gif
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QUOTE(heroes99 @ Dec 17 2007, 10:34 PM)
I see strongbaby is refunding that is very good news ..at last ...

Some updates on the police report

This really time wasting , according to the officer , we are not allow to get the report unless strongbaby himself or he gave us a authorizes letter ????? and he don't even bother to check whether the report is there or not ???  He said it take along time to search for a report  especially without dates ...." how come this report is not online ???"

I will call this aikal guy again tomorrow as he promise to find out for me about the report but when I arrive there he already off duty ......will go there again tomorrow , to see whether i can get anything ...

But with strongbaby starting the refund , this I guess is secondary matter now ...can strongbaby just post up the report or how do get authorize letter from him ..and for the info it cost only RM2 for the report
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Good job heroes99, your work and interest seems a bit under appreciated here. I suspect that it's a bit due to your efforts that it so happened that refunds started today. So, thank you.

I hope this refund is an ongoing thing and not something just to shut up the people thats most vocal about getting their money back eg;rangerred.
Refunds should go according to the list here rather than willy nilly as and when SB likes... and to who and whom he chooses...

> SB , please don't ruin the rest of your rep by pissing off everyone. You still have a lot of supporters out there, and if u come out of this well, you might still have a viable business. Everyone who has met you sing your praises so don't spoil your repo unecessarilly..
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He did reply my PMs and SMS at times, and it's good enough for me. Originally decided to wait, but since he advised the buyers to ask for a refund, I'll do too.

Ranger, please put me in the list. Thanks icon_rolleyes.gif
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gee..i hope he is not gonna refund a couple of guys
then lift up the spirits of the remaining people and stop doing it after that
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gee..i hope he is not gonna refund a couple of guys
then lift up the spirits of the remaining people and stop doing it after that
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exactly like how the bulk went at the end hor?
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Wah...... when is my RM800 that I banked in since October gonna be refunded to me? Need that money to buy another PSP slim elsewhere for Christmas leh. Kindly implore Strongbaby would refund me and the rest of those who banked in long time ago as soon as possible.
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QUOTE(lchee @ Dec 17 2007, 11:57 PM)
Wah...... when is my RM800 that I banked in since October gonna be refunded to me?  Need that money to buy another PSP slim elsewhere for Christmas leh.  Kindly implore Strongbaby would refund me and the rest of those who banked in long time ago as soon as possible.
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I also bank in since october, just issue my refund today, cause i tot there might be a chance of getting the psp... no. 66 in waiting list, if SB follow the list, it will be like 1 yr to refund... call me selfish or watever, i agree with lchee to give priority to the earlier bank in buyer.
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If SB refunds like Rm 1k to 2k per month all of the guy at the back will have to wait for how many months or even years before getting back the money.
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Strongbaby just contacted me on IM, asked me to put my name into this refund list. *sigh*
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So, as expected. Some of them get refund.

Someone *might owe SB an apology and there's another fella who will be sent to *vacation.
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kengsim u're 65 on the list.

temptation1314, I wouldn't celebrate yet. Only 4 people said to get refunds, 3 confirmed and 1 can only confirm by lunch today. But after that? We nearly 80 ppl on the list.
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kengsim u're 65 on the list.

temptation1314, I wouldn't celebrate yet. Only 4 people said to get refunds, 3 confirmed and 1 can only confirm by lunch today. But after that? We nearly 80 ppl on the list.
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Yup, I wouldn't mind if you want to wait. I did not put a hammer justice directly to anyone yet.
But there's *someone who are NOT involved should be sent to Year End *Vacation as I have already PRESSED this is REFUND thread and and not a DISPUTE, and that guy had broke into our camp. I'm not sure you did notice or not yet.
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QUOTE(klmc @ Dec 17 2007, 11:20 PM)
Good job heroes99, your work and interest seems a bit under appreciated here. I suspect that it's a bit due to your efforts that it so happened that refunds started today. So, thank you.

I hope this refund is an ongoing thing and not something just to shut up the people thats most vocal about getting their money back eg;rangerred.
Refunds should go according to the list here rather than willy nilly as and when SB likes... and to who and whom he chooses...

> SB , please don't ruin the rest of your rep by pissing off everyone. You still have a lot of supporters out there, and if u come out of this well, you might still have a viable business. Everyone who has met you sing your praises so don't spoil your repo unecessarilly..
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Glad to help out and will continue to do ....

Will be going to get the police station again today to see whether I can get the report out ..

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as informed to request for refund, so here is my refund list. Dear RangerRed please help to update, thanks

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QUOTE(klmc @ Dec 17 2007, 11:20 PM)
> SB , please don't ruin the rest of your rep by pissing off everyone. You still have a lot of supporters out there, and if u come out of this well, you might still have a viable business. Everyone who has met you sing your praises so don't spoil your repo unecessarilly..
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You guys are good at assuming something.
There's 2 option for you guys :
1. Get your money back and don't ask when. Eventually you'll get it.
2. Buy yourself some extra air to breath when SB stop refunding.

Well, actually, do you guys really want to know why SB stop 'responding'?? I can take some screenshot on my phone and post up here but I'm not sure SB will allow that.

P/S: Even if I had posted out, I believe not all of you could face the fact of who you are.

A piece of advice, try to SMS and ask politely and patiently for the reply. Try not to bug too much. Everyone had their own life. SB is borrowing from others to refund you and he had taken responsible on this case himself. Try to look around this corner, how much con case had solved so far and how many of them are bothering to ask you to mail them a refund details. Consider yourself lucky this time.
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I agree with everyone who says the refund should follow the order of the date of cash transfer/bank-in... I ordered an SE K810i through my brother and transferred money on 5th November 2007. But i understand strongbaby's condition so let's all just be patient and wait.
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Is there any dateline for this refund..i believe we should give one...else it will run forever. Whatever we do we should give ourself a dateline. No point listing now a list of ppl asking refund, and yet there is no dateline aka deathline
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QUOTE(temptation1314 @ Dec 18 2007, 09:17 AM)
You guys are good at assuming something.
There's 2 option for you guys :
1. Get your money back and don't ask when. Eventually you'll get it.
2. Buy yourself some extra air to breath when SB stop refunding.

Well, actually, do you guys really want to know why SB stop 'responding'?? I can take some screenshot on my phone and post up here but I'm not sure SB will allow that.

P/S: Even if I had posted out, I believe not all of you could face the fact of who you are.

A piece of advice, try to SMS and ask politely and patiently for the reply. Try not to bug too much. Everyone had their own life. SB is borrowing from others to refund you and he had taken responsible on this case himself. Try to look around this corner, how much con case had solved so far and how many of them are bothering to ask you to mail them a refund details. Consider yourself lucky this time.
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QUOTE(yipwh @ Dec 18 2007, 09:38 AM)
Is there any dateline for this refund..i believe we should give one...else it will run forever. Whatever we do we should give ourself a dateline. No point listing now a list of ppl asking refund, and yet there is no dateline aka deathline
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According to advice from temptation1314, he is willing to wait. I guess 1 year or 2 years time is ok for him. But since he is
SB supporter, I think he'll get it first. Maybe this week? Then everyone will start to support SB and stop pressuring SB. And
the wait will start again. thumbup.gif Good job!!!
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QUOTE(temptation1314 @ Dec 18 2007, 07:24 AM)
So, as expected. Some of them get refund.

Someone *might owe SB an apology and there's another fella who will be sent to *vacation.
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I see that guy is quite helpful despite he is a bit noisy here but at last he has taken action by going to the police ask for the report
And who are you in the position of requesting suspension over someone? rolleyes.gif

QUOTE(temptation1314 @ Dec 18 2007, 07:34 AM)
Yup, I wouldn't mind if you want to wait. I did not put a hammer justice directly to anyone yet.
But there's *someone who are NOT involved should be sent to Year End *Vacation as I have already PRESSED this is REFUND thread and and not a DISPUTE, and that guy had broke into our camp. I'm not sure you did notice or not yet.
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REFUND or DISPUTE bla bla bla.. again it's not in your position to determine the direction of the thread, RRed haven't said anything about the guy yet and you is the one who retort the most.

QUOTE(temptation1314 @ Dec 18 2007, 09:17 AM)
You guys are good at assuming something.
There's 2 option for you guys :
1. Get your money back and don't ask when. Eventually you'll get it.
2. Buy yourself some extra air to breath when SB stop refunding.

Well, actually, do you guys really want to know why SB stop 'responding'?? I can take some screenshot on my phone and post up here but I'm not sure SB will allow that.

P/S: Even if I had posted out, I believe not all of you could face the fact of who you are.

A piece of advice, try to SMS and ask politely and patiently for the reply. Try not to bug too much. Everyone had their own life. SB is borrowing from others to refund you and he had taken responsible on this case himself. Try to look around this corner, how much con case had solved so far and how many of them are bothering to ask you to mail them a refund details. Consider yourself lucky this time.
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if you can then post the screenshot of the SMS, or people has the right to doubt, speculate or even conclude that SB is a con. Customer always right, and consumers are not obligated in doing charity. Send the same SMS to along and see whether they will sympathy with you or not. Business is business, when involves money, best friends will turn enemy.
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Yups that's right. Customers are always right. Customers are bigger than your boss.


You know, the whole problem about this issue is not that the goods have not come . It's the StrongBaby has decided to keep quiet for weeks without informing anyone!

All he needed to do was to inform us and frankly speaking, i'd be happy to wait. Keeping quiet is likened to giving us spades to dig 6 feet into the ground to prepare the funeral.
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No point argue now...SB conman or not a conman.

And i don't think SB is a conman...just a businessman running into some bump, a huge one. Is common...is part of growing up in business world. He will benefit from this mistake he make with his suppplier.

Suggestion to SB, if u are in shortage of money...dont take from Ah Long. See if u have any asset in hand...give it out to the bank first, refinance your car...come to worse u have to ask your relative to borrow u the money. Get all the money, pay off whatever u can to all the people here first...

While doing this...demand refund from your supplier, bang table...screw them up.

Leason learn...dont always trust supplier to much. Do in smaller bulk, maybe 10 at a time. Pay...get stock...deliver to us.
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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Dec 18 2007, 09:56 AM)
According to advice from temptation1314, he is willing to wait. I guess 1 year or 2 years time is ok for him. But since he is
SB supporter, I think he'll get it first. Maybe this week? Then everyone will start to support SB and stop pressuring SB. And
the wait will start again.  thumbup.gif Good job!!!
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I think you are wrong here.
I'm not SB supporter. I had said, I'm protecting both party. Ask RangerRed, I'm not being one sided, but isn't it better to wish for the best rather than, "Ah, kena con edi. Forget it lar, money melayang sudah."

Tell me, what you want?
A refund straight away?
If unable to do it how?
Continue rant over here?
Lodge police report?

I said again, I'm trying to protect both seller and buyer's money here.


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QUOTE(revolution2008 @ Dec 18 2007, 10:43 AM)
I see that guy is quite helpful despite he is a bit noisy here but at last he has taken action by going to the police ask for the report
And who are you in the position of requesting suspension over someone? rolleyes.gif
REFUND or DISPUTE bla bla bla.. again it's not in your position to determine the direction of the thread, RRed haven't said anything about the guy yet and you is the one who retort the most.
if you can then post the screenshot of the SMS, or people has the right to doubt, speculate or even conclude that SB is a con. Customer always right, and consumers are not obligated in doing charity. Send the same SMS to along and see whether they will sympathy with you or not. Business is business, when involves money, best friends will turn enemy.
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Tell me, IN WHAT POSITION you had to stand a chance to post in TOTALLY UNRELATED to you thread?

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QUOTE(THT @ Dec 17 2007, 09:16 PM)
yup .. i sure is from SB ..Latest update get RM200 .
SB SMS ME : " BETTER THAN NOTHING "
Balance as Today (17-12-2007) -----RM19880
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well . i get my rm100 . but dint receive any email or sms leh

will comfirm later
. i will call maybank directly . maybank2u just cant check.

just call maybank2u coustomer services. the guy say cant check form who send the money just can know form when and amount . zzzz

will comfirm tomorow after i go the branch bank . thx

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QUOTE(temptation1314 @ Dec 18 2007, 09:17 AM)
You guys are good at assuming something.
There's 2 option for you guys :
1. Get your money back and don't ask when. Eventually you'll get it.
2. Buy yourself some extra air to breath when SB stop refunding.

Well, actually, do you guys really want to know why SB stop 'responding'?? I can take some screenshot on my phone and post up here but I'm not sure SB will allow that.

P/S: Even if I had posted out, I believe not all of you could face the fact of who you are.

A piece of advice, try to SMS and ask politely and patiently for the reply. Try not to bug too much. Everyone had their own life. SB is borrowing from others to refund you and he had taken responsible on this case himself. Try to look around this corner, how much con case had solved so far and how many of them are bothering to ask you to mail them a refund details. Consider yourself lucky this time.
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Hmm you are giving me the impression that we should be rolling over and be eternally grateful that SB is 'thinking' of refunding.. that i should consider my self 'lucky' ? He doles out various sums at his discretion according to whatever system he has devised and we just wait politely?

ATM all we have is SB saying that his supplier ran off and he's trying to borrow money to refund, how true is that - I dont know, but i'll give him the benefit of the doubt, cos of all comments from the people who've met him on how a stand up guy he is....

Like he outlined - we can 1. go to the authorities. ( commercial crime etc etc - how much good thats gonna do is debatable )
2. civil cases / bankruptcy ( long duration )

BUT theres another way that no one has considered .... if the amount is big ... and if we are willing to take a hit on the amount we get back - there are certain other avenues to do this.




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QUOTE(klmc @ Dec 18 2007, 11:51 AM)
Hmm you are giving me the impression that we should be rolling over and be eternally grateful that SB is 'thinking' of refunding.. that i should consider my self 'lucky' ? He doles out various sums at his discretion according to whatever system he has devised and we just wait politely?

ATM all we have is SB saying that his supplier ran off and he's trying to borrow money to refund, how true is that - I dont know, but i'll give him the benefit of the doubt, cos of all comments from the people who've met him on how a stand up guy he is....

Like he outlined - we can  1. go to the authorities.  ( commercial crime etc etc - how much good thats gonna do is debatable )
2. civil cases / bankruptcy ( long duration ) 

BUT theres another way that no one has considered .... if the amount is big ... and if we are willing to take a hit on the amount we get back - there are certain other avenues to do this.
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Then do 'kindly' enlighted me, what kind of "avenues" that you "considered"??
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I have no idea, how SB is going to get out of this problem. Even he mortage his house or sell his car. i dont think enough to pay us all. sad.gif
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Then do 'kindly' enlighted me, what kind of "avenues" that you "considered"??
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He refunded rangerred and xiong fully? when there's such a long list of people waiting for a refund? And he's short of cash to refund? so what system is he using now ?

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erm i dont think so hmm strongbaby ...i think his going to pokkai he is scariing that the distributors all run only...but he recieved the money should refund back no lost anything lol
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so theres a reason why strongbaby stopped updating. Why? Is his hati terguris or sumthin?
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QUOTE(klmc @ Dec 18 2007, 12:14 PM)
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He refunded rangerred and xiong fully? when there's such a long list of people waiting for a refund?  And he's short of cash to refund? so what system is he using now ?
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all these would end if strongBaby would just come and explain to us. If he needs time, let us know. Keeping quiet is terrible
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QUOTE(kakarocht @ Dec 18 2007, 02:08 PM)
lol..y got so many arguments.  sweat.gif  doh.gif
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can't you see every arguments involved "temptation1314" ? tongue.gif
it'll be endless if he continues wat he starts.



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QUOTE(shikuzika @ Dec 18 2007, 09:28 AM)
I agree with everyone who says the refund should follow the order of the date of cash transfer/bank-in... I ordered an SE K810i through my brother and transferred money on 5th November 2007. But i understand strongbaby's condition so let's all just be patient and wait.
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ur wrong...should follow who request for refund 1st.. not who bank in the money 1st..
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what consequences temptation1314?have u dealt with debt collectors before?or are u just assuming stuff..
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QUOTE(phunkydude @ Dec 18 2007, 04:10 PM)
*passing by

can't you see every arguments involved "temptation1314" ?  tongue.gif
it'll be endless if he continues wat he starts.
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ya i know. not even him but other ppl also. sweat.gif all what we can do is just wait from the news from SB as well from Rangerred to update any latest news. notworthy.gif
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No need to argue...just give SB sometime...maybe till end of this year..and all dont disturb him first. If he run away...to bad. We have to file an official report to the police. Get all the paper. Mean time...just be patient just wait for SB good news.

Suggestion agian to SB...slowly pay off everyone here...will some how give people hope. With hope ppl will not say bad things about u..and it will save your ass too..
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Sorry to interrupt. A piece of advice here, go make a police report. Retract it after you received your refund.
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QUOTE(yipwh @ Dec 18 2007, 05:27 PM)
No need to argue...just give SB sometime...maybe till end of this year..and all dont disturb him first. If he run away...to bad. We have to file an official report to the police. Get all the paper. Mean time...just be patient just wait for SB good news.

Suggestion agian to SB...slowly pay off everyone here...will some how give people hope. With hope ppl will not say bad things about u..and it will save your ass too..
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Wait until ppl ran away only take action? WOW GOOD IDEAL. doh.gif
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QUOTE(albie @ Dec 18 2007, 05:42 PM)
Sorry to interrupt. A piece of advice here, go make a police report. Retract it after you received your refund.
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agree...dun let guard down...
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I paid strongbaby for my monitor on 11th september...
that's 3 bloody months ago.
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post Dec 18 2007, 06:43 PM

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So only 3 people got refunds? Is that it?
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QUOTE(RangerRed @ Dec 18 2007, 06:43 PM)
So only 3 people got refunds? Is that it?
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3 people got full refund and THT got partial refund!
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QUOTE(RangerRed @ Dec 18 2007, 06:43 PM)
So only 3 people got refunds? Is that it?
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today no people got refunds..sad cry.gif ranger how u get it?
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QUOTE(ixole @ Dec 18 2007, 06:57 PM)
today no people got refunds..sad cry.gif  ranger how u get it?
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today i dont think he will refund anybody cos yesterday just refund only.give him until next week, see whether got refund or not!
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Other than xiong91 n me who else got their refund. State it now.
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QUOTE(RangerRed @ Dec 18 2007, 07:17 PM)
Other than xiong91 n me who else got their refund. State it now.
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eehtsithna RM50 refund!
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This list is too f***ing big.........
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i'm happy for you ranger red for getting the refund , what i am peeved off is that SB seem to have screwed up but yet doing the same thing as before - refunding ad hoc - if he doesn't have money like a lot of you is saying - why the heck is he refunding full to certain people and not according to the list?

Musical chairs is it? What about those people thats going to be left?
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can someone tell me what the hell is the police report number? wasted so many hours on this

08407 is refering to saleh basih . and he is a bosnia citizen ????? who made a report because lost some money ???

and please , strongbaby can you just post the report instead of making people to get it ..what wrong that you just post the report up here for us to see ???


and I think is the time now you post the details of your "main supplier " so we can pool resources to track him down and speed up your refunding process

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QUOTE(heroes99 @ Dec 18 2007, 07:56 PM)
can someone tell me what the hell is the police report number? wasted so many hours on this

08407 is refering to saleh basih . and he is a bosnia citizen ????? who made a report because lost some money ???

and please , strongbaby can you just post the report instead of making people to get it ..what wrong that you just post the report up here for us to see ???
and I think is the time now you post the details of your "main supplier " so we can pool resources to track him down and speed up your refunding process
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This doesn't sound good. It will surely raise a lot of questions.
I don't like the sound of we've been possibly duped by a bosnian either.
Anyway thanks heroes99 for your under appreciated efforts.
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QUOTE(Balmung @ Dec 18 2007, 08:13 PM)
This doesn't sound good. It will surely raise a lot of questions.
I don't like the sound of we've been possibly duped by a bosnian either.
Anyway thanks heroes99 for your under appreciated efforts.
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don't jump into conclusion yet ...I could be at the wrong police station ...wish strongbaby can post this up or at least tell me which police station to get the report ..I visted this police station three time already sad.gif

gogo2@ , can you confirm this is the correct police station ...

no problem on the efforts , just lending a hand here so that the refund can be done as quickly as possible..there is a lot members out there that really need the money

I know there are some forumers will like to attack and accuse me of a lot things and I apologise if i have offend them in anyway ... but I will not give up and continue to help out whatever I can ..

With the police report , I hope that we track the supplier details and if strongbaby are willing to disclose more info about his main supplier , I think we can help track him down

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Pray that you went to the wrong police station.
The whole thing sounds so wrong.
If strongbaby could just post the whole report in the 1st place I bet heroes99 won't have to go this far.
Yes it's true that many people are needing the money. Myself and my friend are waiting for the refund too.
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yep sb post up the report a.s.a.p....heroes99 i think your findings have just opened up a can of worms...i fear the worst
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QUOTE(Kerplunk @ Dec 18 2007, 08:42 PM)
yep sb post up the report a.s.a.p....heroes99 i think your findings have just opened up a can of worms...i fear the worst
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I still believe that I am at the wrong police station and hope strongbaby will respond to this urgently

This report should contain the main suppliers details that we need to track him down

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i ordered 60units psp (30black, 20pink, 10white) off him.....and paid him RM 12600.00 at lowyat plaza.....

he told me will ship out the next day but didnt do so....

i rush him everyday for the refund....i'm so lucky that i could get my money back after few days of rushing....

he said the money is bank in directly from his supplier....




RM 95,962.00 receieved by him from the LYNer's untill now....WOW

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QUOTE(ycinator @ Dec 18 2007, 09:17 PM)
i ordered 60units psp (30black, 20pink, 10white) off him.....and paid him RM 12600.00 at lowyat plaza.....

he told me will ship out the next day but didnt do so....

i rush him everyday for the refund....i'm so lucky that i could get my money back after few days of rushing....

he said the money is bank in directly from his supplier....
RM 95,962.00 receieved by him untill the now....WOW
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Pay him RM12600 but already receive RM95962?



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Pay him RM12600 but already receive RM95962?
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lol...the RM 95962.00 is the money i calculate which the LYNer's banked in to him....
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lol...the RM  95962.00 is the money i calculate which the LYNer's banked in to him....
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not to pour cold water here, but if not mistaken, last time PE also got refund few ppl at 1st... after that hilang, right ?
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it wont really hurt to just post a few words abt the refund list though . it is what we called responsibility,
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hi all,

just a suggestion. give some more time for strongbaby. don't put too much pressure. image if similiar thing happens to ourself, and facing much and much more pressure every minute, what would you do?




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I would have never allowed my inventory size (bulk orders) to pass 10K in value?
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QUOTE(ycinator @ Dec 18 2007, 09:17 PM)
i ordered 60units psp (30black, 20pink, 10white) off him.....and paid him RM 12600.00 at lowyat plaza.....

he told me will ship out the next day but didnt do so....

i rush him everyday for the refund....i'm so lucky that i could get my money back after few days of rushing....

he said the money is bank in directly from his supplier....
RM 95,962.00 receieved by him from the LYNer's untill now....WOW
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u r very lucky ...

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