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Austin
post Dec 10 2007, 12:09 AM

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QUOTE(strongbaby @ Dec 8 2007, 11:10 PM)
Reply post no.4

Kindly Refer to post no.4.

thank you

Added on December 8, 2007, 11:16 pm

oh hi heroes,

and yes, kindly continue to speculate as much as you like.

its often to see you appear in my almost sales thread long time ago with such remarks.

well you can lodge a report against me too if u want anything, but i will also get someone to issue you
a lawyer letter too.
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Please disclose your supplier's full detail (IF there is really "any")

Frankly speaking, no stock? Just refund your clients. Where those $$ gone? Mind telling?

Interesting Thread Though



QUOTE(zhen^wei @ Dec 9 2007, 12:30 AM)
Brother. now. u are the seller and the forumers who bank in the money to you are ur customers.
u are responsible to "settle" with ur supplier/ agent/ or blah blah blah and reponsible to ur customers to refund becoz u can't get the stock becoz of ur blah blah blah reason/excuse.
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haha your statement reminds me few years ago when I was noob and kena con by suppliers (Well the tactic same like what was described by heroes99 in previous post), buyers brought parang to warn me immediately once they heard I paid the $$ to supplier already and he went missing. smile.gif BUT MY HONESTY AND SINCERITY did help me to recover back from the disaster and I DID USE MY OWN $$$ + BORROWED $$$ to pay back buyers immediately, that's the BEST SOLUTION TO CLEAR THE DOUBT + PROTECT YOUR REPUTATION. tongue.gif

Let's wait and see how strongbaby will settle the problem. blush.gif

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post Dec 20 2007, 01:28 AM

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QUOTE(strongbaby @ Dec 20 2007, 01:24 AM)
rclxms.gif welcome, please come and join the reporting police group!

save my headache. thanks

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its refer post.no 3 and not no.4 as i checked.

edited and added post no.3
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So seems like you are like another PE after all.
Victims, what are you waiting for? Try any viable solutions to get your refund ASAP. No point argue here already.

Anyone need Michael Chong's number? MCA can help you, at least make this guy famous on newspaper.

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post Dec 20 2007, 02:20 AM

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QUOTE(LyraSummersile @ Dec 20 2007, 02:03 AM)
strongbaby when are you going to refund to all the people? sorry if you tought what...errr
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He is too busy to count the $$$ most probably (instead of raising fund), but just a suggestion for him (I see he is so "sincere" anyhow, so late already still online suddenly) if he doesn't have much $$$ left for refund,

Strongbaby,
There is so many loansharks and personal loan from bankers out there, get your loan there to refund these victims. Instead of so free to talk cock here.
If you have no guts to borrow, I believe most of the victims here can accompany you to get the loan.... icon_idea.gif

For Victims:
Nobody here shall declare how you report at Bukit Aman and what can the police report do, but report to police is a MUST. Do what you shall do. Strongbaby is not supposed to threaten you. And he will have no interest to know about the content written in that piece of paper.

Police Report is between you and the PDRM.
Afterwards all victims shall have a meet up and then go to Michael Chong @ MCA for appointment.

Don't ever let anyone enjoy your hard earned $$ without something in return.

As a victim, reporting this case to Polis Di Raja Malaysia is your duty to prevent anymore cyber crimes especially con case. KEEP THE REPORT AND DON'T NEED TO DISCLOSE HERE. YOU NEED IT BEFORE YOU BRING IN TO MASS MEDIA in a group.

REFUND VICTIMS NOW is strongbaby's responsibility, VICTIM MIGHT NOT FORGIVE HIM BUT AT LEAST WILL FORGET ABOUT THIS CASE AFTER REFUND MADE. IF strongbaby REFUND VICTIM SELECTIVELY + SLOWLY WITHOUT A DEADLINE IS SIMPLY A JOKE TO BUY YOUR TIME
DON'T FALL INTO THIS TRAP.

Added on December 20, 2007, 2:33 am
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(albie @ Dec 19 2007, 12:24 AM)
Has anyone verified the details above in these few days? I would still suggest you guys to lodge police report. A person that dares to accept such big amount in advance for his business, must be ready to face risk and consequences.

This has nothing to do with pressures or not. He screwed up. Time to protect yourself. Good luck guys.
Well, finally albie also here, you are right. Still remember me? last time u asked for my help about the PE case. brows.gif

For whatever reason or motive he started all the bulk orders which involved huge amount of advanced payment, IF HE COULDN'T CONVINCE HIMSELF TO INVEST HIS OWN $$$, WHY COULD HE BE SO CONFIDENCE TO INVEST OTHERS' $$$ TO HIS SUPPLIER? WHAT KIND OF SUPPLIER?

Ponzi Scheme?? Get $$ from 100 orders and get stock to fulfill 20 orders? And Buy in RM100 sell out RM90?
ETA 14 Days just for buying time?

There was too many suspicious points in his bulk.

IF THE BUSINESS ITSELF is genuine and not a con job, he will have invested his own $$$ to get stock and sell for higher profit margin already. Why bother collecting advanced full payment?

If I were doing business which handling huge amount of cash, I also scare man ~ That's not my $$, what if I lost it?
LOST RM100K OWN $$$, THAT'S YOUR OWN RM100K AFTER ALL.
LOST RM100K OTHERS' $$$, YOUR LOSS WILL BE DOUBLE.
Common Sense. shakehead.gif

His bulk orders were totally out of the common sense in the very first place and still got so many ppl banked in FULL for something risky.

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post Dec 20 2007, 01:22 PM

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QUOTE(temptation1314 @ Dec 20 2007, 06:54 AM)
drool.gif wow, you just awesome...
I tell you what is more COMMON SENSE.
You in no position to accuse someone or anyone in here.
Since when he started to threated us? doh.gif
You create the rules?? And you assuming everyone could fill in the form and money is on the table for you to collect?? Get a bit of common sense. doh.gif
If there's 100k people (for example LYN) borrowing 50k loan and approved without doubt from banks, would you think you have that bank by tomorrow if non-of them could pay back.

On other thought, why you don't go scold expanthosethief(sorry bro sweat.gif), or other bulkers invest on their own for the bulk instead of getting full advanced payment?? laugh.gif

Now who is more common sense doh.gif

You know what, heroes99 post is kind of invite flame at the very first but later-on, his post are more worthful than yours.

*Note : I'm not siding on SB side. I play fair for both. And you know that you yourself are good at assuming and I'm kind of impressed that mod could let someone "non-related" to put up more flame. *RangerRed if you know what I'm trying to explain over here...
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NONSENSE. IF I were busy, u want me to comment anything I also won't bother. Just today is public holiday I am quite free, and so coincident this strongbaby replied the thread (check previous page) to tell people "welcome, please come and join the reporting police group! save my headache. thanks"

I take this sentence as an offence, indirectly he threated you all, if you report, he no need to headache as you will be out of refund list?

I emphasize again, each individual victim please do your report at police station HQ, if possible get it done at Bukit Aman Commercial Crime Division.

WHO TELL YOU TO BE STUPID AND INFORM STRONGBABY THAT U REPORTED HIM? Just report the matter between strongbaby & you ACCORDINGLY AND ACCURATELY TO POLICE.

FYI 3 of my friends are listed in the REFUND LIST on the first page, I am not going to disclose their ID, they already filed report individually.

MODIFY THE FOLLOWING REPORT AND DO YOUR OWN SHALL YOU HAVE DIFFICULTY TO SPEAK PROPER BAHASA MELAYU, PRINT IT OUT, SHOW TO THE INSPECTOR IN CHARGED.
HE WILL MODIFY IT IN FORMAL WAY AND GIVE YOU ANOTHER OFFICIAL PDRM REPORT.

KEEP IT AND FROM THEN ONLY WE GATHER TO GO FOR MASS MEDIA.

Report Format

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SAYA, ABC (NOMBOR KAD PENGENALAN XXXXXX-XX-XXXX) DI SINI BERIKHRAR BAHAWA SEMUA MAKLUMAT YANG DISENARAIKAN DI BAWA ADALAH BENAR. TUJUAN SAYA ADALAH UNTUK MELAPORKAN SESUATU KES PENIPUAN YANG BERLAKU KEPADA SAYA SEBAGAI MANGSA YANG TERLIBAT.

PADA XX HARI BULAN OCTOBER 2007, SAYA SEBAGAI PEMBELI TERLIBAT DALAM "BULK ORDER" IAITU PEMBELIAN SECARA ONLINE DI LAMAN WEB

http://forum.lowyat.net

SAYA TELAH MEMBUAT PESANAN YANG BERIKUT:

ABC PROCESSOR
JUMLAH BAYARAN: RM1234
TARIKH PEMBAYARAN: 11HB OCTOBER 2007
CARA PEMBAYARAN: MAYBANK2U TRANSFER
BUKTI: RUJUK KEPADA LAMPIRAN BANK-IN SLIP XXXXX, KOD TRANSACTION: XXXXX
TEMPOH PENGHANTARAN: XX HARI SELEPAS BAYARAN TERSEBUT DIBUAT

PENJUAL YANG BERKENAAN MENGGUNAKAN IDENDITI "strongbaby". CARA JUALAN BELIAU ADALAH MENGUMPUL BAYARAN PENUH TERDAHULU SEBELUM MENGIRIM BARANGAN YANG DIPESAN.
TEMPOH PENGHANTARAN UNTUK BARANGAN YANG DIPESAN ADALAH DARI 14 KE 28 HARI BEKERJA SELEPAS BAYARAN PENUH DITERIMA DARIPADA PEMBELI.

OLEH SEBAB SAYA TELAH MENUNGGU BETAPA LAMA UNTUK BARANGAN TERSEBUT SAMPAI, PENJUAL TERSEBUT TIDAK PERNAH MEMBUAT PENGHANTARAN SELEPAS XX HARI.
ALASAN YANG DIBERITAHU DARIPADA DIA SEPERTI YANG BERIKUT:-

- SUPPLIER ATASAN SUDAH LARI DIRI
- STOK TIDAK MENCUKUPI
- ADA SEKATAN SHIPMENT PADA KASTAM
- XXXX
- YYYYY

SAMPAI SAAT INI, DIA PUN TIDAK PERNAH MEMULANGKAN WANG BAYARAN SAYA WALAUPUN SUDAH MUNGKIR JANJI BEBANYAK KALI.

SAYA MENDAPATI BAHAWA SUDAH ADA TOPIK ADUAN TELAH DIBUKA MENGENAI PENJUAL INI DI LAMAN WEB DAN RAMAI MANGSA TERLIBAT PUN TIDAK MENERIMA BARANGAN YANG DIPESAN:

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/585654

RAMAI MANGSA MENSYAKI BAHAWA WANG BAYARAN KEMUNGKINAN BESAR TIDAK AKAN DIPULANGKAN SERTAMETA.

JUMLAH YANG TERLIBAT ADALAH BESAR DAN SUDAH JEJAK SERATUS RIBU RINGGIT.

PENJUAL TERSEBUT BAGI ALASAN BAHAWA SUPPLIER DIA TELAH MENERIMA WANG PESANAN TERSEBUT DAN TIADA ALASAN YANG LOGIK DIBERITAHU BAGAIMANA PENJUALAN TERSEBUT GAGAL DIJALANI.

BERIKUT ADALAH MAKLUMAT YANG BERKENAAN PENJUAL TERSEBUT:

NAMA PENUH: NG SZE KEAT
BANGSA: CINA
NOMBOR K/P: 770830145665
ALAMAT: Block 70-10-03 Sri Sabah Flat, Jalan Cheras, 56100 KL

Yellow Pages INFO UNTUK ALAMAT KEDUA:

C-12-23A, Cemara Apartment,
Jalan Sri Permaisuri 3
56000, Bandar Sri Permaisuri,
Kuala Lumpur.

NOMBOR TELEFON : 03-9173 8737, HP: 012 674 4388,  016 3344388

MEMANDANGKAN SITUASI PENJUALAN OLEH ENCIK NG SZE KEAT MENUNJUKKAN SIFAT-SIFAT PENIPUAN, SIASATAN LANJUT DARI PIHAK POLIS DIRAJA MALAYSIA AMAT DIHARGAI UNTUK MENCEGAH JENAYAH PENIPUAN YANG GIAT BERLAKU SECARA ONLINE.
SEKIAN TERIMA KASIH.


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post Dec 20 2007, 03:37 PM

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QUOTE(LyraSummersile @ Dec 20 2007, 03:15 PM)
I UNDERSTAND HOW STRONG BABY make money smile.gif
let say the first thing is he do a bulk for that then he gain money right?
around 100,000rm already
then he put them into his bank for interest after that the interest will go for the product for loss of money but actually he gains
that is why his products all every 28-30ETA day lol
understand? i just know his tactic now biggrin.gif
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BINGO.... and I don't think Bank Fix Deposit Interest Rate at 3.7% Per Annum can survive him.
Other High Yield Investment Plan like Forex, Buy Shares or even illegal Investment Plan like Swiss Cash, Sweden Fund, IPC etc which can generate at least 10% Return Of Investment per month.

All these H.Y.I.P if falls, there goes the investment..... High Return always has High Risk.

But hell..... who cares how he invested the $$$, we care only about when he can refund full to all the victims. sweat.gif

I just did a calculation based on the refund list, the total $$$ strongbaby received and not refund yet is amounted to RM109000 already.

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QUOTE(tiSSue_paPer @ Dec 20 2007, 04:38 PM)
all forummer..
please dun judge tat SB is a CON man or not a CONman..
but..  hmm.gif
the thing is he took ur $$..
and he din send u any good..
the problems of supplier is between SB n supplier,u as a buyer is a thrid parties,WHY other ppl problems u wanna make it as ur problems..?  doh.gif
buyer(refer to all forumer) and SB is another case here,since he cant deliver goods to u..
please do a report ASAP..
if he really a CON man he will kena..
if he not a CON man and he make a report too..
police officer will do his work look for the supplier
unite to do report..
*police oni do work for fame..
so go to media as well..
*i am no body side..
holiday ma..  thumbup.gif
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Precisely, do REPORT TO POLICE now to show you are civilized. Let's police handle the investigation under SECTION 420 of PENAL CODE for CHEATING, INSTEAD OF BLINDLY LISTENING TO STRONGBABY'S EXCUSE.

YOU BANKED IN TO HIM, NOT HIS SUPPLIER.
HE SHOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE CONSEQUENCES SINCE HE RELEASED THE PAYMENT (I DOUBT SO) TO HIS SUPPLIER.

Police Investigation will find out did he really channeled out the collected fund to so called supplier, or to his relative account, or still in his account. There only goes to conclusion he is CON MAN or not.

Let's the law enforcers to do the jobs. But victims must be united to do all your part, otherwise we shall stop comment here hmm.gif

Bear in mind that FUNDING FROM PUBLIC WITHOUT LICENSE IS ILLEGAL TOO, NOT TO MENTION IT INVOLVED MORE THAN RM100K.

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QUOTE(heng84 @ Dec 20 2007, 05:10 PM)
we din judge him as a conman if he is a conman he already ran long time ago, but i dont think its between his supplier and him. if it is.. how come i ordered 8800gts for 1month plus after payment made and then 8800gt come out and i still can change to 8800gt?. supposed to be cannot change mah if he already placed order from supplier... only god and him know. maybe he invested those money to somewhere else then wait for ppl to make new order to cover up old order but now suddenly many ppl ask for items but no money coming in thats why he couldnt get us our items. dont know just my assumption oni. maybe i think too much. wait till he show us the police report then oni know.  smile.gif
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Your information is very very useful. So we can conclude that, there is no so called single supplier exist at all. The "Estimated Time of Arrival aka ETA" is purely a scheme to buy your time to fall into the trap, NOT RELEVANT TO PRODUCT SHIPMENT TIME FROM OVERSEAS OR HIS SUPPLIER.

HE JUST BUYING TIME AND USE YOUR ALL HARD EARNED $$$ FOR GOD-KNOWS REASON.

Another Argument is, What kind of supplier can supply every kind of goodies like PSP, Xbox, Desktop LCD, Thumb Drive, Processor, etc?

QUOTE(Chromax8 @ Dec 20 2007, 06:13 PM)
Your Assumptions is almost similiar to mine, especially when he was already having problems related to his so called "supplier" why does he still accept orders when he knew he couldn't supply to them? If you look at his bulk threads and the threads created in relations to his inability to supply or delays, you would notice for the very facts that he was actually still accepting orders in times when he is not able to commit!

So looks like the "Bubble" bursts and everything just blew out!
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So again the "single supplier" whom ran away with the money NEVER EXIST AT ALL.

BUT THERE WAS MANY SUPPLIER"S" PROBABLY Located AT LOWYAT PLAZA, which they always received cash purchase over the retail outlet from a Regular Customer with full name Ng Sze Keat, AND THEN HE EVENTUALLY DELIVERED SOME OF THE ORDERS to make more people believed he has special connection to get various cheap stocks.

BUY WITH RM100 FOR EACH PRODUCT AND SELLING FOR RM90 is indeed a good way to attract victims. icon_idea.gif

Obviously his trap is a well-planned modified version of Ponzi Scheme

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QUOTE(zamanjaafar @ Dec 20 2007, 08:37 PM)
this is one of the stupidest replies here.  We pay strongbaby using our money for merchandise, now we are the 3rd party?
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Maybe there is a misunderstanding, he meant the problem lies between strongbaby and "his supplier", that's "their" problem, but as a buyer you should not be involved in "their" problem,
Your duty is to chase back the $$ strongbaby owed you, directly with strongbaby, but not "his supplier".

If the "supplier" really exist, let SB himself collects the $$ back, victims as "3rd party" shall not get involved.

YOU DEAL WITH SB, NOT HIS SUPPLIER. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(dark_lucifer @ Dec 22 2007, 02:22 AM)
pm done!
sorry la bro i'm not like u online 24 hours, last time i was cheated for laptop case in lowyat forum also.. n then blabla rangerred also know i pm him before so i came to malaysia to make police report n strongbaby help me in malaysia to make police reports. during in his car my hand gatal n i saw his police reports. dun simmply accuse n make assumption (peace)
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Strongbaby so free to bring you to make police report but NOT FREE to refund people??? what a joke?
Why didn't you find me instead to make police report? I can even bring you direct to any ASP I know rclxms.gif

So don't lie lah..... you are strongbaby No.2 or No.3 account? doh.gif
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I was told that this Mr Ng Sze Keat aka. strongbaby owed credit card hell a lot of $$$ from 3 banks, UOB, Alliance Bank, Hong Leong Bank.

His name is blacklisted now by respective banks and I believe he would have been sued for that.

AND most probably the RM120k from victims really gone with wind. rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(AceCombat @ Dec 26 2007, 12:40 AM)
doh.gif
if this is true,then it's almost hopeless for those for asking for refund.

can u please confirm it?

and this suppose to be P&C,how u can get the info like this?
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It is true, but I can only disclose that much of information. wub.gif (At The Moment)
He still active with his account with nickname "usa'' at lelong.com.my, he just closed down all his advertisements there. So I strongly believe that he had logged out from this forum and watching us anonymously. sweat.gif

Actually he started a topic last year during May, discussed about bankruptcy issue at this thread:
Click Me

Which might related to his motive somehow. cry.gif

The more I investigated, the more suspicious I feel he is, I believe this is not as simple trap as what I thought. Should have a mastermind behind this Mr. Ng Sze Keat.

Some questions I want to ask, hope someone can enlighten me before I proceed further, this case might involve much more people other than lowyat forum members, I believe there are some lelong members, shop retailers and dealers out there also suffered huge loss on this guy and the total $$$ cheated by him probably no less than RM200k.

- For those banked in to Mr. Ng Sze Keat's account, what is the bank account number and holder name? personal (this was confirmed) or company account (If there is any)?
- Does anybody here ever met / knowing Mr Ng Sze Keat in person?
- Anyone has his photograph?
- Did he mention to you some of his stock was bought directly from Czone, Sri Computer and ThunderMatch?
- Did he request you to postpone the ETA to enjoy more price discount on the item you bought?
- Any warranty sticker on the item you bought from him? if yes, which shop's warranty sticker?
- Any dealers out there ever dealt with Mr Ng Sze Keat or his company?
- If yes, does he/his company settle all the debt with your company?
- Any loansharks out there can check whether this Mg Sze Keat had loan from you?

Anyone volunteer has any clue / can pay a visit to his company address?
C-9-13, Menara Uncang Emas, Jln Loke Yew, Kuala Lumpur.

And also his home address (probably):
Block 70-10-03, Sri Sabah Flat, Jalan Cheras, 56100 KL

C-12-23A, Cemara Apartment,
Jalan Sri Permaisuri 3
56000, Bandar Sri Permaisuri,
Kuala Lumpur

Let's put aside Who is behind strongbaby (may it be his "main", his supplier, his own). I suspect Mr. Ng Sze Keat whom received all the payment from victim is not the mastermind and possibly he is someone that provided the ATM Card and his personal bank facility to the real mastermind. Anyway I shall let PDRM to do this part of investigation but the PRIORITY IS, Victim please report the case ASAP. yawn.gif

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post Dec 26 2007, 01:47 AM

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QUOTE(williamngwl @ Dec 26 2007, 01:34 AM)
menara uncang emas means UE3.rite now i am just next to this building UE3.
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What kind of building is that? an office tower? (sorry I am not staying at KL)
The info of his company is quite important as he might still using it to take bulk stock from various local suppliers and retailers by CREDIT TERM. sweat.gif


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