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lsm1991
post Jun 14 2023, 04:21 PM

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QUOTE(mADmAN @ Jun 14 2023, 03:57 PM)
everybody claims to "notice ppl giving way" or "ppl notice when im coming".

unfortunately that may only be placebo or even standard behaviour of drivers these days.....honestly...its placebo.

traffic around me has been the same before n after the exhaust (n my exhaust is loud n pops like crazy)....ppl still give way whether quiet or loud exhaust. of course i still have assholes who dont even notice im coming n just switch lanes... be it loud exhaust or stock... best part? most of the assholes that do this are on a kapchai...so much so that i look out more for kapchais than i do cars especially in traffic jams. if these riders with their open face MS88 helmets cant even notice loud exhausts, u really cant expect ppl in an enclosed - somewhat sound insulated, has other internal environmental noises (like radio n aircond) - enclosure to notice u or ur exhaust. so like i said.. the physics dont make sense.

as for blipping, if u have to blip, ur already too close n obviously they didnt notice u (or ur loud exhaust) BEFORE u arrived... which is the whole argument of "loud pipe saves lives".

problem with this is also that these "results" (both believers and non believers' claims) are not repeatable. waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyy too many variables to consider - different surrounding (internal/external) noise n noise levels, different car brand/types/models etc, different level of insulation, different person, different level of awareness, different urgency bla bla bla.

honestly, i think loud pipe saves lives is not something anyone should lean into. itll make u more complacent, gives u a false sense of security and less aware coz ur basically somewhat relying on that to help keep u safe as u expect ppl to hear u.

so as the saying goes, ride as if everyone (yes, everyone, including other bikes) are trying to kill u n ignore all other sayings that can make u complacent like the loud pipes argument.

so if u like loud exhaust, just say u like loud exhaust. no need to justify. if u get judged by some people... not their money.
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hahaha not a bik fan of loud pipes... pekak tau.
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post Jun 14 2023, 04:39 PM

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QUOTE(mADmAN @ Jun 14 2023, 03:57 PM)
so if u like loud exhaust, just say u like loud exhaust. no need to justify. if u get judged by some people... not their money.
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Well said bro

I continue stick with stended tu indah... And even that they still damn loud AF laugh.gif
Kapchai also loud, wrapped already still loud , haihz lol
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post Jun 14 2023, 06:05 PM

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anyone knows where to find crash bar for Z250 2017 model?

I've had too many of almost dropping my bike incident I'm starting to think I need one.

shops and shopee all are selling for newer model sweat.gif
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post Jun 14 2023, 07:09 PM

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QUOTE(Patent @ Jun 14 2023, 06:05 PM)
anyone knows where to find crash bar for Z250 2017 model?

I've had too many of almost dropping my bike incident I'm starting to think I need one.

shops and shopee all are selling for newer model sweat.gif
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why u almost drop bike? practice more.
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post Jun 14 2023, 07:31 PM

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QUOTE(alexei @ Jun 14 2023, 07:09 PM)
why u almost drop bike? practice more.
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slow speed maneuvering.. going downhill..
might as well just install crash bar for safety
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post Jun 15 2023, 01:09 PM

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QUOTE(Patent @ Jun 14 2023, 07:31 PM)
slow speed maneuvering.. going downhill..
might as well just install crash bar for safety
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You don't need a full crash bars 'ala driving school bikes. Just find some generic fit frame sliders.

Even with crash bars, it doesn't guarantee your bike won't end up with no damage. It depends on how you crash.

Dropping the bike is part and parcel of learning to ride. You don't drop (meaning you are not challenging yourself with more tricky maneuvers), you don't learn.

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post Jun 21 2023, 11:36 AM

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do you guys still use full face helmet during this hot weather?
face so sweaty even when the chin vent open sweat.gif

any recommended helmet shop to test helmets in kl area?
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post Jun 21 2023, 01:34 PM

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QUOTE(Patent @ Jun 21 2023, 11:36 AM)
do you guys still use full face helmet during this hot weather?
face so sweaty even when the chin vent open sweat.gif

any recommended helmet shop to test helmets in kl area?
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I use my jet helmets for day to day rides...touring baru pakai full face/modular.

Still thinking wanna buy the givi M35.0 or not.....
Voopoo
post Jun 21 2023, 01:40 PM

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QUOTE(Patent @ Jun 21 2023, 11:36 AM)
do you guys still use full face helmet during this hot weather?
face so sweaty even when the chin vent open sweat.gif

any recommended helmet shop to test helmets in kl area?
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newbie rider here 3 years ago, am still using my openface ls2 spitfire (first purchased helmet because i dunno any better) but am gonna switch to full face helmet soon for daily. feel very unsafe with the chin area so expose tongue.gif
one unfortunate accident and there goes my chin...kinda scared
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post Jun 21 2023, 02:59 PM

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QUOTE(lsm1991 @ Jun 14 2023, 04:21 PM)
hahaha not a bik fan of loud pipes... pekak tau.
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A loud horn and bright auxiliary light will attract attention more than a loud exhaust.
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post Jun 21 2023, 03:03 PM

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QUOTE(Patent @ Jun 21 2023, 11:36 AM)
do you guys still use full face helmet during this hot weather?
face so sweaty even when the chin vent open sweat.gif

any recommended helmet shop to test helmets in kl area?
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I still use a full face 95%of the time. Rarely if ever I use my open face.
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post Jun 21 2023, 03:18 PM

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QUOTE(Patent @ Jun 21 2023, 11:36 AM)
do you guys still use full face helmet during this hot weather?
face so sweaty even when the chin vent open sweat.gif

any recommended helmet shop to test helmets in kl area?
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I'm still using full face since 1994


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post Jun 21 2023, 03:22 PM

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QUOTE(Voopoo @ Jun 21 2023, 01:40 PM)
newbie rider here 3 years ago, am still using  my openface ls2 spitfire (first purchased helmet because i dunno any better) but am gonna switch to full face helmet soon for daily. feel very unsafe with the chin area so expose  tongue.gif
one unfortunate accident and there goes my chin...kinda scared
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Want to see my colleague's face injury ?
He crashed and had his chin and lips scraped onto the tarmac. Gigi patah one.
Yes. He was wearing open face helmet.
Now you know what I never own and wear an open face helmet. Those days even when I started riding , rode a kapchai... I was wearing FF.




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post Jun 21 2023, 03:28 PM

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QUOTE(skyblu3 @ Jun 21 2023, 03:22 PM)
Want to see my colleague's face injury ?
He crashed and had his chin and lips scraped onto the tarmac.  Gigi patah one.
Yes. He was wearing open face helmet.
Now you know what I never own and wear an open face helmet.  Those days even when I started riding , rode a kapchai... I was wearing FF.
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no......hell no...dont need to see also i can imagine..
the side of helmet is shorter and doesnt cover the cheeks area i already feel damn insecure and can imagine the amount of damage that can be done to it without protection...
but problem is, FF helmet head shape is quite hard to guess. so its hard to purchase FF helmet.

yes one should wear for a few mins or something to see whether there's pressure point on the head but the FF helmet i'm using. I dont feel any pressure point on my head but after 90 mins of riding, my ears HURTS like a bitch cuz that area is too tight. it feels fine when putting on but the pain/redness only comes after 90 mins or more....how la to test helmet liddat. my ride to hatyai was a painful one when my ears start hurting till i had to stop at R&R for a breather.
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post Jun 21 2023, 03:33 PM

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QUOTE(Voopoo @ Jun 21 2023, 03:28 PM)
no......hell no...dont need to see also i can imagine..
the side of helmet is shorter and doesnt cover the cheeks area i already feel damn insecure and can imagine the amount of damage that can be done to it without protection...
but problem is, FF helmet head shape is quite hard to guess. so its hard to purchase  FF helmet.

yes one should wear for a few mins or something to see whether there's pressure point on the head but the FF helmet i'm using. I dont feel  any pressure point on my head but after 90 mins of riding, my ears HURTS like a bitch cuz that area is too tight. it feels fine when putting on but the pain/redness only comes after 90 mins or more....how la to test helmet liddat. my ride to hatyai was a painful one when my ears start hurting till i had to stop at R&R for a breather.
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What FF you using?
lsm1991
post Jun 21 2023, 03:36 PM

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QUOTE(ajaibman @ Jun 21 2023, 02:59 PM)
A loud horn and bright auxiliary light will attract attention more than a loud exhaust.
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but aux lights legal x? or long as its off all close one eye kinda thing?
nak selit during jam, i should really consider aux lights, those stand out

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post Jun 21 2023, 03:38 PM

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QUOTE(skyblu3 @ Jun 21 2023, 03:33 PM)
What FF you using?
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Lazer MH5 Modular Helmet
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pls assist me sifus, am planning to buy another FF but not dowan till shoei premium helmet range la although they have custom fitting.....
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post Jun 21 2023, 03:41 PM

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QUOTE(lsm1991 @ Jun 21 2023, 03:36 PM)
but aux lights legal x? or long as its off all close one eye kinda thing?
nak selit during jam, i should really consider aux  lights, those stand out
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Not legal.. only your bike stock form is legal, but these days it's considered a lesser "sin" compare to loud exhaust and license plate.

Pay summon vs your life.. I rather pay...
lsm1991
post Jun 21 2023, 03:42 PM

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QUOTE(ajaibman @ Jun 21 2023, 03:41 PM)
Not legal.. only your bike stock form is legal, but these days it's considered a lesser "sin" compare to loud exhaust and license plate.

Pay summon vs your life.. I rather pay...
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haiyah... ok noted, aux lights i had intended to pasang, i guess it just means i have to hide them somewhere stockish looking

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post Jun 21 2023, 03:49 PM

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QUOTE(lsm1991 @ Jun 21 2023, 03:42 PM)
haiyah... ok noted, aux lights i had intended to pasang, i guess it just means i have to hide them somewhere stockish looking
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Ensure you off it while going through roadblock-prone areas such as the Toll Plaza/Lorong Motorsikal, then after clearing.. on back.

Usually, I turn on my aux light when the traffic is heavy, lots of cars are present, and during bad weather, so it is not the whole time.. just pity your Stator coil, battery and ignition system.. some LEDs can draw lots of current if not regulated.

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