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alexei
post Oct 31 2022, 07:40 PM

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Open face, mesh jacket, gauntlets for daily.

Polyester jacket, kevlar lined trousers for trips, leather for fun rides.
Both with full face and race boots.

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post Nov 1 2022, 09:55 AM

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QUOTE(Zaire.Ver @ Oct 31 2022, 11:39 PM)
i ride a small scooter and wear almost full gear hahaha
FF helmet - kabuto kamui 3, jacket - komine jk-141, glove - komine gk-197, boots - forma viper dry...but lower parts still lacking, need some riding pants or maybe just hip & knee armour

several times i noticed at traffic lights, some rider took photo of me and probably laugh too but who cares, ive seen plenty of shit on the road and experience some too

years ago, had 1 accident, emergency brake to avoid a carbodo sudden switch from right lane into my lane at left.... fast speed, hard brake without abs, i had to slide the bike, jump out, and roll several times on the road. luckly there was no car behind and i wore gear & FF if not can kiss my face goodbye already...no serius injuries except some bruises, cuts but the worst are my toes coz i only wore hiking shoes (thick sole, heavy type) easily got torn off...that time wear agv k3 FF, rs taichi jacket and glove

also seen right in front of me, twice on separate occasion, on wet road after rain stopped, a hilux spun on middle of a straight highway and a myvi spun on little bend on highway

not counting the various numerous bike accident happen during daily 70km work commute

so thats why even after downgraded from big bike to small scooter i still wear full gear coz u never know when shit gonna happen but usually it's during the daily peak traffic jam time. also no point if getting a cheap or fake gear..wont protect anything, for show only
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post Nov 1 2022, 09:56 AM

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QUOTE(skyblu3 @ Oct 31 2022, 10:54 PM)
This is why i AGATT all the time.
You'll never know when shit will happen.

at times I get teased , and some will give me the "you are such a show off" look.

I know one guy in my office, quite a close friend before this - he laughed and teased me when he saw me putting on the safety gears at the office car park.
Know what, about a year later , he had a bike accident.  His knee hit the tarmac and his kneecap fractured.  Other than this injury, he had those usual bike injuries such as road rash, etc.

I was so tempted to remind him of that day he laughed and made fun of me for wearing full gears.

LOL.
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ouch...

we only have 1 body
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post Nov 1 2022, 09:57 AM

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we wear gear and sometimes ppl call us 'pussies'
just need to remind them, 'cats have 9 lives'
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post Nov 1 2022, 10:28 AM

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QUOTE(skyblu3 @ Nov 1 2022, 10:12 AM)
most riders do not have this concern.
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some are better skilled than me of course, can cilok between cars at full speed, I see also kecut.

QUOTE(skyblu3 @ Nov 1 2022, 10:14 AM)
call you a pussy
or make fun of you by saying "you going racing?" 
or say "so scared then better don't ride".
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just tell them 'ya, i'm an imaginary racer'



many ppl are like that, I just tell them, belum kena then count yourselves lucky
I just say bluntly, yes, I kena before, and enough for now

I can also tell stories, show scars, and describe the pain going to clinics treating roadrash, stitches, and run water across those skin, those time wasted.
some ppl perma-injured forever cannot dukung anak, how? not to curse them but we have brains to think, and technology in protection to reduce severity of injury.

spend on tyres, brakes and suspension as well, those reduces chances of crashing during those 'oh-shit' moments
Malaysia road is bad, but at least is not slippery as Thailand
but, our motobodo and carbodo is at least 3x than theirs
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post Nov 1 2022, 12:26 PM

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QUOTE(skyblu3 @ Nov 1 2022, 10:50 AM)
You may have good skills.
but on a public road you are not alone.  There are road users with no skills.

dandanfireman always say riders must put their high ego aside when riding on a public road. We are not the only road users. 

you just need one donkey to make you crash.
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I'm going to imagine myself herding donkeys from now on, whenever I don't imagine myself being a racer
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post Nov 1 2022, 01:47 PM

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QUOTE(genesiscopy @ Nov 1 2022, 01:19 PM)
Not really full gear, but here goes: modular helmet, Andes V3 jacket and pants, Forma Vantage boots and gloves. Daily rider with 100km return trip (60 highway 40 city road).

Works damn well during rainy season. Just need to stop to close those vents. But sweaty AF during hot and dry season.
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The Andes V3, marketing talk say it's waterproof membrane and good breathability.
My textile jacket, also with internal rain liner.

I wanna say our jackets are similar, and they are hot AF.
Personally, for ventilation, I prefer perforated leathers.

QUOTE(Jason @ Nov 1 2022, 01:19 PM)
Good mindset. And donkeys are donkeys so don’t expect them to be rational or logical.

I DGAF about other people, so people taking photos or making fun doesn’t bother me. Can look like macam yes, bergaya.

Don’t need to respond anyway, just smile.

It’s our life and our skin. I’m not going to put my my safety aside cause people make fun of me. And don’t need to answer them.

One thing that concerns me is people gearing up with stuff they think is safe.. when it’s not.

I’ve seen quite a number of motorcycle riding boots that doesn’t have CE rating…. And a lot of mesh jackets esp Taichi and Komine that has CE armor but the jacket itself doesn’t have CE rating for abrasion. Same with my own mesh jacket. No CE for abrasion. I’ve got a leather jacket but that doesn’t have back armor only shoulder and elbow.
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I think CE rating for garment came in later. Even race leather suits don't get CE rating, except for some RST.
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post Nov 1 2022, 10:08 PM

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QUOTE(jaycee1 @ Nov 1 2022, 08:54 PM)
Internal waterproof liner?  Must as well don't use.

My jacket has one. It's a real PITA to put on. And it still leaks in at the front zipper. Rest of it is ok. Plus your jacket still gets very wet and heavy and takes forever to dry. Disaster on a multiday trip where you can't properly dry your gear.

Better just to put on a rain shell over your main jacket. Much faster and you can choose bright eye searing florescent colours that you otherwise won't wear on a normal day.
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No, not that type.
Example like this: outer shell, inner waterproof layer, then another mesh nylon layer.
In my case, there are 2 zippers, one internal one for waterproof.

Then again, that jacket oredi many years, now leaking everywhere.
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post Nov 8 2022, 08:54 AM

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Ordered these, hope they arrive soon.

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post Nov 10 2022, 09:21 AM

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QUOTE(Aaronnnnnn @ Nov 10 2022, 08:54 AM)
managed to pass through customs without tax?
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if below RM500, won't kena
if above RM500, high chance kena

next year, all kena: https://ecentral.my/cukai-jualan-barang-imp...rm500-ke-bawah/
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post Nov 10 2022, 09:44 AM

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QUOTE(genesiscopy @ Nov 10 2022, 09:42 AM)
Kena boss. Import duty.
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FC-moto is dumb, put the bright stickers all over the box
Kastam sure know inside is premium riding gear
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post Nov 10 2022, 09:47 AM

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QUOTE(Aaronnnnnn @ Nov 10 2022, 09:26 AM)
i really want to buy a good affordable riding pants <$200, but the pants recommended by ryan F9 all not in MY huhuhu
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like what? F9 is in northern hemisphere, we're on the equator
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post Nov 10 2022, 10:26 AM

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QUOTE(Aaronnnnnn @ Nov 10 2022, 09:52 AM)
both are nylon Cordura pants, thanks but I suggest you skip just get polyester or mix cotton
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post Nov 11 2022, 09:11 AM

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QUOTE(Nightstalker1993 @ Nov 10 2022, 11:40 PM)
My riding jeans claims to be 10% Kevlar though it looks like any other regular jeans sweat.gif
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Kevlar is the yellowish fabric on the inside

QUOTE(Jason @ Nov 10 2022, 09:05 PM)
what is the rational behind it? please share. cotton or poly+cotton no slide protection, later DNA on the tarmac.

I think the optimum option is either cordura, or kevlar lined on the knee and bum. BUT, fake Komine with real CE1 is better than normal jeans, I've seen those being quite affordable, so no excuse really.
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this page helped me decide:
https://www.servicethread.com/blog/material...ester-and-nylon

TLDR:
nylon is 10% stronger than poly, when new
nylon degrades in UV (become powder puff) - some plastics loses 75% strength after 6 days of UV exposure
nylon absorbs moisture (cooler fabric than poly)
nylon is less resistant to chemicals and petroleum products

Also, mission critical ropes such as those used in emergency services almost always use polyester. Nylon would have to be UV treated.

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post Nov 11 2022, 10:09 AM

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Kevlar lining in gloves and pants be like this

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post Nov 11 2022, 10:17 AM

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Fabric textile abrasion resistance and durability are two different aspect, with the later usually less published. Ever kena some synthetic material like jacket or windbreaker that comes apart, or disintegrate, or just rips to shreds after several years? Pay attention to the material and you shall see.

Leather also have its own grades, from different animal sources - goat, cow, kangaroo, stingray, and different grades of the same - full grain, top, etc. Some brands have their own treatment (oils, conditioners) to make their leather look and feel better.

In my experience, leather is heavier, and protects against heat from the sun. Meaning, if you stay under the sun while not moving, the leather doesn't let the heat from the sun into the rider, but you'll sweat nonetheless.

Comparing perforated leather to textile jackets with air vents, I prefer leather. Mesh jacket is "better than nothing" category.
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post Nov 14 2022, 08:45 AM

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QUOTE(Nightstalker1993 @ Nov 11 2022, 11:39 PM)
Which perforated leather jacket do you use though?
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RS Taichi
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post Nov 25 2022, 10:14 AM

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QUOTE(alexei @ Nov 8 2022, 08:54 AM)
Ordered these, hope they arrive soon.

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Arrived. Not bad.
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post Nov 29 2022, 12:23 PM

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when I ride fast I wear earplugs, when not fast, I don't wear earplugs
when outstation or touring, definitely bring them

my bikes stock muffler also I notice it will help me in many ways
less fatigue riding long distance

acoustic earplugs are good option

city riding wise, awareness depends on person, also if the bike oredi loud AF, then wear earplugs or not won't affect much since the exhaust is a mini-concert liao


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post Nov 29 2022, 11:16 PM

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QUOTE(mADmAN @ Nov 29 2022, 12:27 PM)
disagree... my exhaust is loud AF... n the wind noise can drown out the exhaust alot... i wear earplugs mainly for wind noise but at the same time exhaust is reduced quite significantly.
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aiyo, don't quote and crop my paragraph and take it out of context la.... I say city riding and awareness mah.

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