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jaycee1
post Oct 31 2022, 04:13 PM

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I'm in full gear 99% of the time. That 1%maybe is going to the Taman shops to get burger or smokes.

Boots, riding pants, jacket, gloves, and a good helmet. Even when I do squid on that 1%, I still have at least my helmet, boots and gloves on.

It's hot, but I rather save some skin and bones.

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post Oct 31 2022, 04:17 PM

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QUOTE(Jason @ Oct 31 2022, 04:08 PM)
Haven't gotten riding jeans/pants yet. I noticed a lot of "riding jeans" are just normal jeans and majority of it doesn't have armored lining, just the pocket for the CE pad at the knee and that's it. Which means if you slide on tarmac, you're gonna lose all your skin.
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As for riding jeans, the only proper ones need to have a Kevlar lining and you WILL have to use your own better armour. Typically for cheap riding jeans, they will just give you rather useless 4mm EVA foam pads.

I use normal riding jeans with upgraded armour. Kevlar lined jeans are a bit too hot and uncomfortable for me. It is a trade-off. Just have to depend on the armour for protection. Normal denim won't do much in a slide.

My Komine mesh pants has leather over the sliding areas...

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post Oct 31 2022, 04:44 PM

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FWIW, those slow city traffic rides are the most crucial to armour up as you will be riding in traffic/commute in slower speeds and you get too comfortable and complacent and don't concentrate and as alert then when you ride at speed. we know how often that can go south....plus in traffic there is more things you can hit or hit you so impact protection is more important than sliding performance.

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post Nov 1 2022, 01:39 PM

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QUOTE(Jason @ Oct 31 2022, 05:49 PM)
Lai lai share your gear.

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My daily gear as requested.

HJC Rpha 70

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Komine JK069 Mesh Jacket (armour upgraded), with Neck brace (only when highway use, city use impedes shoulder check) .

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No brand riding jeans (amour upgraded) various design and colour. Single layer non kevlar lined / Komine PK717 mesh riding pants
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The Komine mesh pants have compatible zip to zip to your Komine jacket so it stays together in a slide. I also upgraded the hip armour.


Benkia GK333 Mesh gloves / Komine GK160
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Arcx Riding boots

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These are my daily gear. I ahve other secondary equipment like extra jackets , gloves, helmets etc. that I didnt bother to put up.

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post Nov 1 2022, 01:50 PM

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QUOTE(Jason @ Nov 1 2022, 01:19 PM)


One thing that concerns me is people gearing up with stuff they think is safe.. when it’s not.

I’ve seen quite a number of motorcycle riding boots that doesn’t have CE rating…. And a lot of mesh jackets esp Taichi and Komine that has CE armor but the jacket itself doesn’t have CE rating for abrasion. Same with my own mesh jacket. No CE for abrasion. I’ve got a leather jacket but that doesn’t have back armor only shoulder and elbow.
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THis comes with proper research. Not all gear will be properly tested for CE ratings.

We use our equipment knowing full well the limitations and what it can or can not do.

Many riders are limited by budget and or comfort. Depends a lot on your risk adversion as well and how you ride.

Its no point decking ones self up with 5000 of gear that you dont wear because its too uncomfortable.

Just wear what you can comfortably afford or be comfortable in.
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post Nov 1 2022, 08:54 PM

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Internal waterproof liner? Must as well don't use.

My jacket has one. It's a real PITA to put on. And it still leaks in at the front zipper. Rest of it is ok. Plus your jacket still gets very wet and heavy and takes forever to dry. Disaster on a multiday trip where you can't properly dry your gear.

Better just to put on a rain shell over your main jacket. Much faster and you can choose bright eye searing florescent colours that you otherwise won't wear on a normal day.
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post Nov 1 2022, 08:59 PM

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QUOTE(genesiscopy @ Nov 1 2022, 02:36 PM)
Anybody tried or used airbags? Some like the Tech-Air is too proprietary and may need to be periodically replaced/change canister which may cost as much as buying new. Lol.
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I have a friend using a dainese d-air vest. Says it's heavy and hot.

Helite Turtle seems to be the best reviewed airbag vest so far.
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post Nov 8 2022, 09:24 AM

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QUOTE(Jason @ Nov 8 2022, 03:14 AM)
Imma gonna get a cam mount, is that stuck on using 3M tape?
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Depends where you want to stick it too. Usually it's just 3M tape.

I have that stuck on my karting helmet...seems to be still secure after 1 year.. But on motorcycle, I prefer to use my mirror stalk ball mount. More secure..and more adjustments.....and I can loop a safety wire on it just in case the mount fails.

Also don't like the additional weight and aero compromise having a cam on the helmet.

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post Nov 8 2022, 09:50 PM

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QUOTE(gataddhin @ Nov 8 2022, 06:50 PM)
Akaso, not too bad

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I have the akaso 7 r2. Unusable audio. But for dash cam purposes... It's fine. I have a video link somewhere on the dominar thread, if you want to check the video and stabilization quality, as that is an off road gravel ride.
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post Nov 10 2022, 05:29 PM

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QUOTE(Aaronnnnnn @ Nov 10 2022, 09:26 AM)
i really want to buy a good affordable riding pants <$200, but the pants recommended by ryan F9 all not in MY huhuhu
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Don't think you can get proper riding pants under 200 here. Proper ones with Kevlar lining will be closer to 500 even on sale.

Incidentally, These just came in the mail.

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Thick cotton/khaki type material. Single layer. Won't slide worth shit. But at least it has armour pocket on hip and knees. Paid like 70 each. Just treat it as normal pants.

I wear these on the daily to work along with my other single layer jeans. Let's face it, you are not going for a long slide in city traffic. Impact protection is more important. It's a compromise I'm willing to make for cost and comfort.

Kevlar lined is just a bit too hot in daily traffic.

Slide protection or not, these are way more comfortable on a bike than normal jeans, since they are cut for riding and have stretch fabric at the correct places....and correct lenght so you don't look like wearing 3/4 pants when on the bike.

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post Nov 10 2022, 05:46 PM

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QUOTE(gataddhin @ Nov 10 2022, 03:59 PM)
Total RM4258. About 10% of my bike value.
At least I feel comfortable and safe.
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My gear cost 1/2 as much as my bike. Hahaha.
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post Nov 10 2022, 10:38 PM

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QUOTE(Jason @ Nov 10 2022, 09:05 PM)
what is the rational behind it? please share. cotton or poly+cotton no slide protection, later DNA on the tarmac.

I think the optimum option is either cordura, or kevlar lined on the knee and bum. BUT, fake Komine with real CE1 is better than normal jeans, I've seen those being quite affordable, so no excuse really.
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Cordura is just a brand name of a nylon based fabric.

For slide abrasion, you need to look at the fabric density. Any fabric with weave densities of 800 (denoted denier) or more will offer good slide abrasion. Basically, more fabric, better abrasion resistance.

Kevlar just adds tensile strength, it actually doesn't abrade that well, but what it does is, it doesn't rip. So you will still get some protection if your main fabric rips for some reason.

A proper riding garment is also built differently with a lot more reinforced stitching. Hence the cost. If your seams rip, whatever high denier fabric you use would be useless.

Nothing beats proper thick leather though. Even those are double or triple stitched.

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post Nov 14 2022, 07:49 AM

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QUOTE(paskal @ Nov 12 2022, 08:32 AM)
where did you got these from?
nice quality for RM70.

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Shopeegot.

Just look around.

https://shopee.com.my/product/783093038/208...61-1668383226.9



These, I opted out of the stock armour as I have my own upgraded armour. So it's just kosong. Decent as daily pants. Just don't expect them to slide well.

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post Nov 14 2022, 10:33 AM

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Actually I have a spare riding pant/jeans. Wrong size/cutting for me.. Same design as the new ones I got above.

Green. No armour. (I can probably find and include some Eva hip pads and knee pads if you want, but better just buy your own armour). Branded "Komine". Worn only a few times. 1 size too big for me. Suitable for 32-33inch and 170cm.

Free to a good home. Pickup at Sunway area if interested. PM.
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post Nov 16 2022, 01:40 PM

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QUOTE(paskal @ Nov 16 2022, 11:42 AM)
Thanks.
Added to cart.
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Just to note if you are getting the "grey" one...it's not actually grey as in the pictures..it's more like navy with a hint of grey.
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post Nov 16 2022, 07:19 PM

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QUOTE(blackbox14 @ Nov 16 2022, 06:44 PM)
How is the sizing on this if I may ask? Looking for a pair of pants also since I have my own armor.

The reviews, some say true to size and others say 1 size or 2 size down from actual measurement?
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To be honest, buying stuff online is hard to judge. Some size them Asian size, some gwailo size. The measurement chart sometimes could be off.

But this seller seem to have sizes that more closely fit me. So to me it's true to size. YMMW.
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post Nov 16 2022, 10:21 PM

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Has anyone used these to spray on clothing/items for better night visibility?
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post Nov 18 2022, 11:35 AM

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QUOTE(paskal @ Nov 18 2022, 10:15 AM)
the pants currently have 20% off for 18.11 global shipping day.
RM58~ after coins and discount.

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can order from the seller.
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Nice.
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post Nov 29 2022, 08:51 AM

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QUOTE(Jason @ Nov 28 2022, 01:35 PM)
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10/10 would recommend to every rider. Gave my friend a set, she used it first leg of the ride. Second leg too lazy to put on and she said OMG made crazy ass difference. That’s with a modular. I ride with a full face. Would not ride without it.

The faster you go, the bigger the difference.
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I have been using 3M yellow foamies. The yellow ones are quieter than the orange ones. But it's not a big diffence. Have silicon ones but the foamies are still the most comfortable.

With my rpha70 and foamies, wind noise becomes a non issue, hardly hear any wind noise if my wind deflector is adjusted to the high position..

However, I prefer not to use earplugs in city riding just because I want to hear traffic better. Besides, the Rhpa 70 is already a very quiet helmet (it is as quiet without earplugs than my MT Atom with earplugs) so I just make do without them in daily city commute and only use them for longer highway rides.
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post Dec 4 2022, 09:22 AM

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JK063 With rear LED. 360 from shopee.

This arrived about a week ago. Bought this to replace my JK069 which ended up worst for wear after 34k and 18months. Had to send to shop to have a 2 zippers and velcro straps replaced.

Less ventilated than my old JK069 and about 1/2 size larger despite same size. But the velcro wrist straps are fabric instead of the easily damaged pvc ones on my JK069 so I'm expecting a bit better longevity.

Other than the zippers and velcro, my old JK069 is a better jacket with 2 proper straps on each arm to secure the armour better.

However the included inner rain shell is better on the JK063. Moot point anyway as I prefer to use a rain shell over the jacket anyway.

Mad rush to buy all my needed gear before next year where online items under 500 will start getting taxed.

My old jk069 as reference
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