Sorry for being off-topic a little bit, but those were quoted in this thread.
QUOTE(ZeneticX @ Nov 23 2021, 08:37 PM)
Mazda 3 everything is nice but I somehow can't stomach the fact its the most expensive but still using
torsion beam at the rear when both Civic and Corolla have
independent setup and double wishbonesQUOTE(lee82gx @ Nov 23 2021, 09:26 PM)
on the subject of torsion beam vs multi link or even A-Arm or fully independent suspension - I don't really care as long as it works. What i mean by works of course is it sits people comfortable, handles reasonably and won't roll too much.
I mean, you have wira with rear multilink suspensions and they are not exactly known for much.
Neither will I be subjecting my family sedan to the 3.5G corners at 100km/h.
I had been, and didn't care as you're suggesting.
Having suffered, tolerated and accepted for decades
uneven tyre edge wear on a Ford saloon,
wandering Land Cruiser on highway speed of 100-110 km/hr made worse during slight drizzle or slight rain etc, which IINM all these are with 4 independent suspension systems.
Besides, I have come to make regular adjustments to my driving styles according to each car characteristics in Wira ( with kind of no wheel alignment done, never mind it is a 4 independent system) and Avanza (with live axle) with grandmother road speed at taking corners .
With hindsight I came to realise that this attitude of "don't care" has robbed me of 'benefits, fun' etc in gaining nice driving experience with 'tuning' of wheel alignments particularly for a system of 4 independent suspension.
QUOTE(ZeneticX @ Nov 23 2021, 09:45 PM)
Given everything else is the same (spring firmness, tuning etc), torsion beam will still be
less comfortable than an independent or double wishbone setup when u go over rough roads
Compared to a 4 independent suspension system like those in some Civic or Corolla/Camry, a non-adjustable Rear Torsion Beam (or live axle) in a Mazda3 has handicapped or castrated options or choices of properly tuning a wheel alignment for a fun driving experience in terms of vehicle comfort, sense of steady road holding and firm handling etc.
Having said that a properly 'tuned' wheel alignment on vehicles with non-adjustable Rear Torsion Beam/Live axle (like Mazda3, Vios City Perodua etc) would give a better driving experience like stability/handling in relation to 'ill-tuned' wheel alignment done on a 4 Independent Suspension system (like Wira or Saga).
I'm of the opinion that majority of wheel alignment works reported online or in rea life are ill-tuned giving rise to huge sense of distrust or anger among car owners against wheel alignment shops and/or aligment tyremen.
Note: Am not refering to quality/brand of suspension components like absorbers, ball joints, lower control arms etc but strictly on tuning of wheel alignments.
This post has been edited by zeng: Nov 24 2021, 12:52 PM