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TSweisinx7
post May 1 2020, 08:57 AM, updated 4y ago

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Hi,

Received an email from Transferwise :


We’ve switched off borderless accounts in Malaysia. You can still send money abroad, just like you’ve always done, but you now can’t:

Add and hold money in your account
Use your international bank details



Anyone receive this? And what is the best alternative to transferwise now? The purpose is to receive foreign currency with better rate.

Thanks

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post May 1 2020, 10:57 AM

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QUOTE(weisinx7 @ May 1 2020, 08:57 AM)
Hi,

Received an email from Transferwise :
We’ve switched off borderless accounts in Malaysia. You can still send money abroad, just like you’ve always done, but you now can’t:

    Add and hold money in your account
    Use your international bank details

Anyone receive this? And what is the best alternative to transferwise now? The purpose is to receive foreign currency with better rate.

Thanks
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To receive USD?
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post May 1 2020, 11:02 AM

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Seriously? I have been sending aud back home. Last transaction in February. Immediate effect? My app still can send as of now.

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post May 1 2020, 12:07 PM

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Yes, cancelled with immediate effect.

Malaysia prepare to defend the Ringgit, I don´t think this will help too much, but it is how it is.
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QUOTE(David_Yang @ May 1 2020, 12:07 PM)
Yes, cancelled with immediate effect.

Malaysia prepare to defend the Ringgit, I don´t think this will help too much, but it is how it is.
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What do you mean malaysia to defend ringgit?
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QUOTE(wct @ May 1 2020, 11:02 AM)
Seriously? I have been sending aud back home. Last transaction in February. Immediate effect? My app still can send as of now.

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Wait for official email. I did not received any email yet. Use alternative like instarem/bigpay to transfer money.
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post May 1 2020, 01:28 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ May 1 2020, 01:22 PM)
What do you mean malaysia to defend ringgit?
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Limit currency transactions. Actually Malaysia is already much more strict than most other countries.

QUOTE(Ramjade @ May 1 2020, 01:22 PM)
Wait for official email. I did not received any email yet. Use alternative like instarem/bigpay to transfer money.
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You still can transfer in and out money as before. Just the very convinient borderless account is gone.

Bigpay rates only useful for SGD in my expierence.
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post May 1 2020, 01:58 PM

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QUOTE(daifeigo @ May 1 2020, 10:57 AM)
To receive USD?
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yea, right now i'm looking at instarem or bigpay, are those able to receive USD from US?
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QUOTE(David_Yang @ May 1 2020, 01:28 PM)
Limit currency transactions. Actually Malaysia is already much more strict than most other countries.
You still can transfer in and out money as before. Just the very convinient borderless account is gone.
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Is it possible that Bank Negara Malaysia has instructed TransferWise to shut down borderless account for Malaysians?
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post May 1 2020, 02:47 PM

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QUOTE(kart @ May 1 2020, 03:19 PM)
Is it possible that Bank Negara Malaysia has instructed TransferWise to shut down borderless account for Malaysians?
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I would think so. Who else?
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post May 1 2020, 06:25 PM

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you mean we cant store MYR in transferwise anymore?
I have constantly transfer SGD to MYR and store some MYR in transferwise wallet...
didn't receive any email pertaining this ...
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post May 1 2020, 07:51 PM

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So this is what I got in response to a support email inquiring about this:

Thanks a lot for reaching out to TransferWise.
Sadly, due to licencing and regulatory changes we will need to temporarily remove the borderless account for customers that are based in Malaysia and Thailand.
We hope that we will be able to reintroduce this again very soon.
What this means for you right now is that we need you to withdraw the funds from your borderless account to an external bank to TransferWise. Once this has been done then we can proceed with closing the borderless account. The rest of your account will remain unchanged, only the ability to receive and hold funds.
Access to your borderless account will be removed by May 15th so please ensure that you withdraw your funds before this time.
I sincerely apologise for the inconvenience and we hope to be able to re-introduce this service in a timely manner.
Thanks for your time.
Kind Regards,
Michael
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I followed up with asking on what would happen to the funds, if there are still balance, should 15th of May lapsed. Not that I'm planning to do so, I just want to know their SOP

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post May 1 2020, 07:54 PM

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QUOTE(MiKE7LIM @ May 1 2020, 06:25 PM)
you mean we cant store MYR in transferwise anymore?
I have constantly transfer SGD to MYR and store some MYR in transferwise wallet...
didn't receive any email pertaining this ...
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If you're based in Singapore, and able to prove it, I think they won't close your account, but definitely confirm it with them.
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post May 1 2020, 08:13 PM

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QUOTE(000022 @ May 1 2020, 07:54 PM)
If you're based in Singapore, and able to prove it, I think they won't close your account, but definitely confirm it with them.
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thanks. I just checked my email, got nothing from them.
yes I based in Singapore

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post May 1 2020, 08:17 PM

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Can confirm that still able to transfer from aud to myr just the virtual borderless acc will be ceased.
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post May 1 2020, 08:32 PM

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QUOTE(wct @ May 1 2020, 08:17 PM)
Can confirm that still able to transfer from aud to myr just the virtual borderless acc will be ceased.
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Right. The email mentioned that their remittance service continues, just that borderless account will be closed for Msia and Thai. If your primary reason of usage for Transferwise is purely remittance, then I do not believe there is any issue. Only borderless account is affected, even for Msia and Thai. This does not mean your entire Transferwise account is shutdown.
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post May 1 2020, 09:27 PM

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Following up on more details, especially in regards to why this is happening, important part bolded:

Thank you very much for coming back to me and I am sincerely sorry for being the bearer of bad news.

I would of course be happy to elaborate on the regulatory changes I referenced in my previous email.
Up until now, in Malaysia and Thailand, for the borderless account TransferWise have operated under our UK entities licence which is provided to us by the FCA, this is completely normal and of course we are able to do this with legality.

When the UK left the European Union it forced us to re-evaluate our short and long term strategies when providing services under this licence.
We have made the difficult decision that we would need to switch our operations from our UK licence to our European licence held by our entity in Belgium.


In an ideal world this change over would happen instantaneously, in real time, meaning that our customers would not be affected by the change and no down time would be experienced, however unfortunately this is not possible and we have had to make the very difficult decision to temporarily suspend our borderless service in both of these regions whilst the change over occurs.

As I mentioned previously we are optimistic that this will not be for too long and as soon as all of the necessary changes have been made then we will of course notify everyone that was affected by this.

In regards to the deadlines and the questions that you posed; If you still have balance held in your borderless account upon the time of closing I do not have any official communications that I can give about this but seeing as we cannot hold your funds then yes we would most certainly send the money as a balance refund to your nominated account. We may ask you to confirm the details of the account that you would like us to refund the money to.

We would much rather you empty the balance yourself. Please let me know if this is something that you would like me to do.
Just to confirm, as of the 15th of May your account will be limited to international transfer remittance only and holding currencies will no longer be available.

I am sincerely hopeful that the outage of service will not be for a tremendous amount of time, we already know that it will take longer in Thailand than in Malaysia but it's difficult for us to give an exact timescale on this.

I do hope that this will not cause too much inconvenience to you and again, everyone at TransferWise as well as myself are truly apologetic for the change in the level of service that we are able to provide. I hope you can understand our position.

Thank you kindly for your continued patience and support of our platform, we will let you know as soon as we are able to start providing our Multi-Currency account to your region again in the future.

Best Regards,
Michael
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post May 1 2020, 10:08 PM

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QUOTE(000022 @ May 1 2020, 09:27 PM)
Following up on more details, especially in regards to why this is happening, important part bolded:

Thank you very much for coming back to me and I am sincerely sorry for being the bearer of bad news.

I would of course be happy to elaborate on the regulatory changes I referenced in my previous email.
Up until now, in Malaysia and Thailand, for the borderless account TransferWise have operated under our UK entities licence which is provided to us by the FCA, this is completely normal and of course we are able to do this with legality.

When the UK left the European Union it forced us to re-evaluate our short and long term strategies when providing services under this licence.
We have made the difficult decision that we would need to switch our operations from our UK licence to our European licence held by our entity in Belgium.


In an ideal world this change over would happen instantaneously, in real time, meaning that our customers would not be affected by the change and no down time would be experienced, however unfortunately this is not possible and we have had to make the very difficult decision to temporarily suspend our borderless service in both of these regions whilst the change over occurs.

As I mentioned previously we are optimistic that this will not be for too long and as soon as all of the necessary changes have been made then we will of course notify everyone that was affected by this.

In regards to the deadlines and the questions that you posed; If you still have balance held in your borderless account upon the time of closing I do not have any official communications that I can give about this but seeing as we cannot hold your funds then yes we would most certainly send the money as a balance refund to your nominated account. We may ask you to confirm the details of the account that you would like us to refund the money to.

We would much rather you empty the balance yourself. Please let me know if this is something that you would like me to do.
Just to confirm, as of the 15th of May your account will be limited to international transfer remittance only and holding currencies will no longer be available.

I am sincerely hopeful that the outage of service will not be for a tremendous amount of time, we already know that it will take longer in Thailand than in Malaysia but it's difficult for us to give an exact timescale on this.

I do hope that this will not cause too much inconvenience to you and again, everyone at TransferWise as well as myself are truly apologetic for the change in the level of service that we are able to provide. I hope you can understand our position.

Thank you kindly for your continued patience and support of our platform, we will let you know as soon as we are able to start providing our Multi-Currency account to your region again in the future.

Best Regards,
Michael
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Thanks for this information, hopefully they will get the renewed license soon

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post May 1 2020, 10:52 PM

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This is bad. sad.gif I need somewhere to hold my USD.
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QUOTE(Ramjade @ May 1 2020, 10:52 PM)
This is bad. sad.gif I need somewhere to hold my USD.
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sigh, I totally get you, came as quite a surprise as well on Thursday. I've never really come across another avenue like Transferwise for holding USD, am hoping to be able to continue perusing their services in a few months time.
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QUOTE(Ramjade @ May 1 2020, 10:52 PM)
This is bad. sad.gif I need somewhere to hold my USD.
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Does instarem/bigpay works the same as Transferwise?
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Does instarem/bigpay works the same as Transferwise?
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Nope. They cannot hold foreign currency or received foreign currency.
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Is Paypal the only viable option for holding USD?
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post May 9 2020, 09:33 AM

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QUOTE(You mobile @ May 9 2020, 12:48 AM)
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Take note that you cannot self fund your USD account; only by another's business bank account via ACH transfer
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QUOTE(000022 @ May 9 2020, 09:33 AM)
Take note that you cannot self fund your USD account; only by another's business bank account via ACH transfer
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do you know the extra transfer fees of payoneer?

For example, if business bank account send 1K usd, how much i receive at payoneer?

also if i want to send this received 1K usd to my local msia bank, what would be the expected fee?
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For many here who have SG bank accounts and/or SG brokerage accounts, chk if your account is a multi-currency account. Most probably one would be, or you can open one online if you have the capability to do so.

A multi-currency account will help you hold your USDs.
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QUOTE(weisinx7 @ May 9 2020, 03:34 PM)
do you know the extra transfer fees of payoneer?

For example, if business bank account send 1K usd, how much i receive at payoneer?

also if i want to send this received 1K usd to my local msia bank, what would be the expected fee?
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Sorry bro, I cant help you there, I tried moving funds from transferwise to payoneer, but like i mentioned earlier, it was rejected due to barring self-funding acts ( most likely to prevent money laundering acts? Am not sure). But from the FAQ, this is probably what payoneer will charge:

receiving: 1%, so that's 10USD
sending off: 2%, so that's 19.8USD


So most likely, your available funds towards the end would only be:
970.2

The fees are pretty steep in this sense, compared to Transferwise where the fee, would basically be just about 7USD


QUOTE(Hansel @ May 9 2020, 03:56 PM)
For many here who have SG bank accounts and/or SG brokerage accounts, chk if your account is a multi-currency account. Most probably one would be, or you can open one online if you have the capability to do so.

A multi-currency account will help you hold your USDs.
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So the problem with this is that the exchange rate for banks are pretty shitty, so that's definitely the last resort. Urg, Looking at all the other services and their charge rate, Transferwise is definitely the best to me.
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QUOTE(000022 @ May 9 2020, 04:13 PM)
Sorry bro, I cant help you there, I tried moving funds from transferwise to payoneer, but like i mentioned earlier, it was rejected due to barring self-funding acts ( most likely to prevent money laundering acts? Am not sure). But from the FAQ, this is probably what payoneer will charge:

receiving: 1%, so that's 10USD
sending off: 2%, so that's 19.8USD
So most likely, your available funds towards the end would only be:
970.2

The fees are pretty steep in this sense, compared to Transferwise where the fee, would basically be just about 7USD
So the problem with this is that the exchange rate for banks are pretty shitty, so that's definitely the last resort. Urg, Looking at all the other services and their charge rate, Transferwise is definitely the best to me.

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The thing here is : you need to transfer out your funds for awhile while they sort out the legal requirements with the ECB. So, you transfer out your foreign currencies to an interim account with your required denomination, say, if you have USDs, transfer to the USD wallet of a multi-currency account somewhere. Minimum fee of USD7 will be imposed here to transfer out to your designated acct....

After everything has been settled and the borderless account is re-opened, you can transfer back your foreign currencies into the borderless account. There is no conversion at all in this activity. After the funds are transferred back to the borderless acct., things will go back to normal.

We shld be happy this is just a temporary 'blip' and not that this facility has been closed down / out from Msians for good.
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QUOTE(Hansel @ May 9 2020, 04:23 PM)
The thing here is : you need to transfer out your funds for awhile while they sort out the legal requirements with the ECB. So, you transfer out your foreign currencies to an interim account with your required denomination, say, if you have USDs, transfer to the USD wallet of a multi-currency account somewhere. Minimum fee of USD7 will be imposed here to transfer out to your designated acct....

After everything has been settled and the borderless account is re-opened, you can transfer back your foreign currencies into the borderless account. There is no conversion at all in this activity. After the funds are transferred back to the borderless acct., things will go back to normal.

We shld be happy this is just a temporary 'blip' and not that this facility has been closed down / out from Msians for good.
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I think you're misunderstanding something here. Sure, would be good to have my existing funds transferred to another USD acc, but that's not the main point. Point is moving forward while TW is getting things sorted out ( which we're not even sure when it'll take), at least for me, is to hopefully look for a similar service with low rates like transferwise so future payments can be dealt with the same way. So exchange will definitely happen, since I still spend in MYR at the end of the day.

Unfortunately, there doesnt seem to be case, payoneer's 1% charge in receiving and 2% charge in sending may be so steep that their better exchange rate may not even matter.
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QUOTE(000022 @ May 9 2020, 04:46 PM)
I think you're misunderstanding something here. Sure, would be good to have my existing funds transferred to another USD acc, but that's not the main point. Point is moving forward while TW is getting things sorted out ( which we're not even sure when it'll take), at least for me, is to hopefully look for a similar service with low rates like transferwise so future payments can be dealt with the same way. So exchange will definitely happen, since I still spend in MYR at the end of the day.

Unfortunately, there doesnt seem to be case, payoneer's 1% charge in receiving and 2% charge in sending may be so steep that their better exchange rate may not even matter.
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Things chg,... we have to adapt,.. look deeper.
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QUOTE(Ramjade @ May 1 2020, 10:52 PM)
This is bad. sad.gif I need somewhere to hold my USD.
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CIMB (SG) in USD is your next best bet?
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CIMB (SG) in USD is your next best bet?
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Nope. I got one more ace up my sleeve. Awaiting the fintech to reply me biggrin.gif biggrin.gif
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Nope. I got one more ace up my sleeve. Awaiting the fintech to reply me  biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif
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fintech? Mind to disclose more?
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fintech? Mind to disclose more?
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Later. Going to test if it works first. Most important is if they will accept Malaysians as their customer.
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Now... anybody got an email clarifying that it's all human error?
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I did. Am following up with email. I doubt it's so simple as human error after clarification.
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I just confirmed with them that the account is "permanently removed for the foreseeable future" yesterday and got this email today.
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Now... anybody got an email clarifying that it's all human error?
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yea, i did receive the email and they mentioned about the compensation of some RM, but still didn't see the money in my account. I still can see the borderless account in my account now
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QUOTE(weisinx7 @ May 15 2020, 08:18 AM)
yea, i did receive the email and they mentioned about the compensation of some RM, but still didn't see the money in my account. I still can see the borderless account in my account now
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Didn't see the RM in my acc either. Sent an email and this is what I got from them:

Three weeks ago, we planned to close borderless for Thailand and Malaysia residents. We sent out emails to our customers but since then we’ve had a chance to revisit the decision and have decided to no longer close borderless for new or existing users in Thailand, or for existing users in Malaysia. This means that only new users with a Malaysia address will not be able to get borderless accounts.
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Get foreign account example with HSBC.

Paypal is expensive due to rate.
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QUOTE(chrysm @ May 15 2020, 03:38 PM)
Didn't see the RM in my acc either. Sent an email and this is what I got from them:

Three weeks ago, we planned to close borderless for Thailand and Malaysia residents. We sent out emails to our customers but since then we’ve had a chance to revisit the decision and have decided to no longer close borderless for new or existing users in Thailand, or for existing users in Malaysia. This means that only new users with a Malaysia address will not be able to get borderless accounts.
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QUOTE(chrysm @ May 15 2020, 03:38 PM)
Didn't see the RM in my acc either. Sent an email and this is what I got from them:

Three weeks ago, we planned to close borderless for Thailand and Malaysia residents. We sent out emails to our customers but since then we’ve had a chance to revisit the decision and have decided to no longer close borderless for new or existing users in Thailand, or for existing users in Malaysia. This means that only new users with a Malaysia address will not be able to get borderless accounts.
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Thanks for sharing, I restarted the email thread I had previously with TW support, but hadnt gotten a reply yet unfortunately. I'm still wondering how this will pander out, I'm just worried if I move funds back in again, and this happened again, it's so disruptive...
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I only opened my TW a few weeks ago and using the account to deposit GBP, works fine ... no issues. Guess I was just in time!
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QUOTE(000022 @ May 16 2020, 12:29 PM)
Thanks for sharing, I restarted the email thread I had previously with TW support, but hadnt gotten a reply yet unfortunately. I'm still wondering how this will pander out, I'm just worried if I move funds back in again, and this happened again, it's so disruptive...
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Hopefully they are not fickle-minded and decide to revise it once again. I've pulled out all my funds then they sent the update doh.gif
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hi guys.. how do u actually use transferwise to send MYR to SGD?

when I tried to perform such transaction, I can't seems to find the option to actually fund the MYR first before i can actually make the transfer?

do u guys fund the MYR using ur bank account? credit card?
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QUOTE(jas029 @ Jul 16 2020, 10:17 AM)
hi guys.. how do u actually use transferwise to send MYR to SGD?

when I tried to perform such transaction, I can't seems to find the option to actually fund the MYR first before i can actually make the transfer?

do u guys fund the MYR using ur bank account? credit card?
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Login to TransferWise.
At the top left (your left) will have button send money. Click that.

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Jul 16 2020, 10:34 AM)
Login to TransferWise.
At the top left (your left) will have button send money. Click that.
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upon that, was navigated to the page where they required ID verification.. apologise i havent verify yet..

but would like to know after that, what are the options to fund the transfer of MYR to SGD? is it through our m'sia bank?

m'sian bank -> transferwise (exchange MYR into SGD) -> sg bank
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QUOTE(jas029 @ Jul 16 2020, 11:21 AM)
upon that, was navigated to the page where they required ID verification.. apologise i havent verify yet..

but would like to know after that, what are the options to fund the transfer of MYR to SGD? is it through our m'sia bank?

m'sian bank -> transferwise (exchange MYR into SGD) -> sg bank
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Funding is via FPX
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fpx.. ok that answered all my queries

thanks for the info
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Anybody had issues receiving overseas payment via Transferwise?
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QUOTE(chrysm @ Oct 20 2020, 03:36 PM)
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last month np
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May I asked if you've received payment from any new contacts after they restored the borderless service?
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May I asked if you've received payment from any new contacts after they restored the borderless service?
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anyone know how to avoid paypal conversion rate by withdrawing paypal balance to transferwise borderless?

since it is no longer available - are there other altneratives?

I dont want to lose 2-2.9% of my total to Paypal's horrible conversion rate
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Just funded my USD borderless account, seems to have no issue but I could be missing something. Anyone still hold foreign currencies (non MYR) in their borderless acount?

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it's just some error from their side, should be no issue now. Also now they changed their name to Wise , and exchange speed is quite fast as well, within half an hour i can see the the money in my local bank already.
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QUOTE(weisinx7 @ Mar 15 2021, 01:29 PM)
it's just some error from their side, should be no issue now. Also now they changed their name to Wise , and exchange speed is quite fast as well, within half an hour i can see the the money in my local bank already.
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Thank you so much for this! So the error has already been rectified? Though from Malaysian's perspective, Wise still doesn't have borderless account, I only got it when i switch my location to Singapore (cheeky little trick I learnt on YouTube lols!).

Not sure if this is deem illegal / unprotected in the eyes of BNM? Not sure if there are any ramification for this.

Thank you once again!
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QUOTE(cheezzzz @ Dec 22 2020, 03:58 PM)
anyone know how to avoid paypal conversion rate by withdrawing paypal balance to transferwise borderless?

since it is no longer available - are there other altneratives?

I dont want to lose 2-2.9% of my total to Paypal's horrible conversion rate
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Just tried to open a Wise Borderless Account. It does seem that the borderless account feature is no longer available in MY.
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Now borderless account feature is disabled in MY.

Is it possible to receive money from overseas by providing local bank details without a Transferwise account?

(In other words, giving my local bank details to a foreigner with a Transferwise account)
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QUOTE(b0rhui @ May 26 2021, 05:42 PM)
Now borderless account feature is disabled in MY.

Is it possible to receive money from overseas by providing local bank details without a Transferwise account?

(In other words, giving my local bank details to a foreigner with a Transferwise account)
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QUOTE(b0rhui @ May 26 2021, 05:42 PM)
Now borderless account feature is disabled in MY.

Is it possible to receive money from overseas by providing local bank details without a Transferwise account?

(In other words, giving my local bank details to a foreigner with a Transferwise account)
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Can we still send money to overseas account ,e.g. using SEPA euro?

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QUOTE(b0rhui @ May 26 2021, 05:42 PM)
Now borderless account feature is disabled in MY.

Is it possible to receive money from overseas by providing local bank details without a Transferwise account?

(In other words, giving my local bank details to a foreigner with a Transferwise account)
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existing borderless acc user also suspeded?
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Any idea why the borderless accounts are suddenly suspended here?
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What do you mean malaysia to defend ringgit?
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What if I want to bring USD into the country and thus strengthen the ringgit dry.gif sien, hope this is only temporary.

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existing user shouldn't be affected, just new user couldn't have it anymore. I still can use it from time to time.
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existing user shouldn't be affected, just new user couldn't have it anymore. I still can use it from time to time.
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soon existing users will be closing down too. haha
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What if I want to bring USD into the country and thus strengthen the ringgit dry.gif sien, hope this is only temporary.
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soon existing users will be closing down too. haha
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soon existing users will be closing down too. haha
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Where do you get this information? If this is just your speculation, better don't put it here to confuse the others.
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Where do you get this information? If this is just your speculation, better don't put it here to confuse the others.
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He's anti TransferWise cause they close his account without reason. Cause he use his account for crypto.
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He's anti TransferWise cause they close his account without reason. Cause he use his account for crypto.
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But is there any terms that mentioned the account cannot be used for crypto? I can see many are using it.
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He's anti TransferWise cause they close his account without reason. Cause he use his account for crypto.
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Brother, dont simply claim I used for crypto ....You just used your own justification and the reason is unknown. Dont simply justify it.

If you want to get the reason and challenge me, please contact Wise and get them to tell the reason. Otherwise, dont always state that reason I used crypti and they closed me.

Otherwise, keep your mouth shut!

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But is there any terms that mentioned the account cannot be used for crypto?  I can see many are using it.
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QUOTE(jack2 @ Jul 6 2021, 04:44 PM)
Brother, dont simply claim I used for crypto ....You just used your own justification and the reason is unknown. Dont simply justify it.

If you want to get the reason and challenge me, please contact Wise and get them to tell the reason. Otherwise, dont always state that reason I used crypti and they closed me.

Otherwise, keep your mouth shut!
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I have used my account for normal things and until today never get banned. Almost 5 years+. No issue. You used yours for crypto right?

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in the West... personal account means a few transactions a month... if you got many many a day... it gets flagged... they will then ask you to open business account and close your personal account

some banks even limit how many ATM withdrawals you can make that is FOC...then after they start charging fees...


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Who are using it? I will report it
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Pretty triggered for no reason. Unless... hmm.gif
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Gonna park myself here for any updates. This issue is very annoying especially if you wanna do ACH transfers to US for normies like me without a US account.

I don't think they wanna "protect the ringgit" if so, they won't launch the MIDF Invest lmao.

Looking back at this thread, Wise has closed the borderless accounts for new users for quite awhile, I'm doubting whether do they really pulled the plug on us.
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Hmm - anyone encountering this? transfers into Transferwise accounts nowadays almost always go through "Routine checks" which delays the transfer by a week or so
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Hmm - anyone encountering this? transfers into Transferwise accounts nowadays almost always go through "Routine checks" which delays the transfer by a week or so
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Not at last week, when do you start to encounter this problem?
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So received this shit again:

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I'm speechless with the local authority now.
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Not at last week, when do you start to encounter this problem?
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Since last 2 months ago it seems, smaller ones are fine, but larger ones are almost guaranteed to go through "Routine Checks", which takes them 4-5 days. Makes it slower than normal bank transfers
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So received this shit again:

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I'm speechless with the local authority now.
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oh snap - i do have a business account with them, but will still clarify this. I guess, this might be a factor in my delays. But damn - this is annoying - it went to my junk mail, Wise is pretty shite at communicating this

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oh snap - i do have a business account with them, but will still clarify this. I guess, this might be a factor in my delays. But damn - this is annoying - it went to my junk mail, Wise is pretty shite at communicating this
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Yea, probably this is the reason why, please do let us know if this is affecting business account or not too, thanks.
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Yea, probably this is the reason why, please do let us know if this is affecting business account or not too, thanks.
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Supposedly no - but will still clarify
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So like the first email mentioned, if you're a business verified account, nothing would change (for now).

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Thanks for getting in touch.

Yes, the limit is only for personal account, for your business there isn't any change you can continue holding, sending and receiving money without any limitations.

There are no restrictions for sending money from your business account. But for personal account. if you're sending money from your USD balance, you need to convert it to MYR first and then you can send money from your MYR balance to a MYR bank account.

If you have any other questions, let us know — we're happy to help.
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So like the first email mentioned, if you're a business verified account, nothing would change (for now).
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great, thanks.
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want to ask u guys, if open a wise business account in malaysia for SDN bhd, does it come with the borderless account feature to receive USD?
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btw, is it possible to fund for example the USD borderless account via wise itself using the banking details provided?
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Finally, Wise Borderless is back rclxms.gif rclxms.gif Just got the email a couple of minutes ago.

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QUOTE(Vercetty @ Nov 11 2021, 11:14 AM)
Finally, Wise Borderless is back  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif Just got the email a couple of minutes ago.

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u will apply? what is the perk of it for malaysia use? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(Vercetty @ Nov 11 2021, 11:14 AM)
Finally, Wise Borderless is back  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif Just got the email a couple of minutes ago.

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has been back about 2wks liao... hahaha
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u will apply? what is the perk of it for malaysia use?  hmm.gif
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park money offshore mah... but limit to only RM20k...

money in and out need to pay fee...

useless for me... never active last time the MC account... probably won't activate now

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QUOTE(tadashi987 @ Nov 11 2021, 11:47 AM)
u will apply? what is the perk of it for malaysia use?  hmm.gif
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I am still holding to my borderless account. Good account or received cashback for my USD shopping and send it to sg for minimal cost to be reinvested.
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QUOTE(dwRK @ Nov 11 2021, 12:42 PM)
park money offshore mah... but limit to only RM20k...

money in and out need to pay fee...

useless for me... never active last time the MC account... probably won't activate now
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Yes bro,... prb is starting from Jan 1st., if wants to bring back back, will kena taxed,...

But actually,... not a lot-lar for the time being,... only 3% transitional tax. Later, when added into the SG or OG acct,... will be more painful.
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Just to ask, if I go to SG for a research exchange next year and will stay there for around 3 months, can I open a Wise borderless account there using my hostel address, then switch over to MY address when I return to MY?

Will the borderless account be closed after I switched my address?

Also, the "debit card" costs 10 SGD, you guys pay for the same amount back in Malaysia when it was available?
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QUOTE(TOS @ Nov 13 2021, 08:31 PM)
Just to ask, if I go to SG for a research exchange next year and will stay there for around 3 months, can I open a Wise borderless account there using my hostel address, then switch over to MY address when I return to MY?

Will the borderless account be closed after I switched my address?

Also, the "debit card" costs 10 SGD, you guys pay for the same amount back in Malaysia when it was available?
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QUOTE(TOS @ Nov 13 2021, 08:31 PM)
Just to ask, if I go to SG for a research exchange next year and will stay there for around 3 months, can I open a Wise borderless account there using my hostel address, then switch over to MY address when I return to MY?

Will the borderless account be closed after I switched my address?

Also, the "debit card" costs 10 SGD, you guys pay for the same amount back in Malaysia when it was available?
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You don't even need sg address now. Apparently they brought back borderless for Malaysians already.

I apply mine back then without any sg address. You have youtrip, revolut card. Go compare and see which one is the cheapest. No need die die use TransferWise.

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wow this is a shitshow
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This will further weaken the lingit
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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Nov 14 2021, 07:33 AM)
You don't even need sg address now. Apparently they brought back borderless for Malaysians already.

I apply mine back then without any sg address. You have youtrip, revolut card.  Go compare and see which one is the cheapest. No need die die use TransferWise.
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Not available in HK and Malaysia yet, but available in SG.

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Nov 14 2021, 07:33 AM)
You don't even need sg address now. Apparently they brought back borderless for Malaysians already.

I apply mine back then without any sg address. You have youtrip, revolut card.  Go compare and see which one is the cheapest. No need die die use TransferWise.
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Oh wait, you are referring to this?

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Which currency balance should I choose then? (Assume I will retire in Malaysia, cash sourced from SGD bank account, and I want to bypass the "tax", so I guess it should be an SGD account? Or I can keep using MYR as my currency balance, but only convert from SG every time I need to withdraw cash from MY's ATM?)

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QUOTE(TOS @ Nov 14 2021, 10:51 AM)
Oh wait, you are referring to this?

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Which currency balance should I choose then? (Assume I will retire in Malaysia, cash sourced from SGD bank account, and I want to bypass the "tax", so I guess it should be an SGD account? Or I can keep using MYR as my currency balance, but only convert from SG every time I need to withdraw cash from MY's ATM?)

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doesn't matter

if card is myr default... you can still top up using sgd, just convert to myr during top up...

if you activate an sg balance, you can top up sgd without converting... you card will "hold" 2 currencies... you can convert ftom sgd to myr manually when you need it , or let wise do it automatically on insufficient myr balance (ps this is how normal multi currency card works I assume same for wise I didn't check)


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QUOTE(dwRK @ Nov 14 2021, 12:26 PM)
doesn't matter

if card is myr default... you can still top up using sgd, just convert to myr during top up...

if you activate an sg balance, you can top up sgd without converting... you card will "hold" 2 currencies... you can convert ftom sgd to myr manually when you need it , or let wise do it automatically on insufficient myr balance (ps this is how normal multi currency card works I assume same for wise I didn't check)
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I have a question. Choosing either MYR/SGD as my account balance, and given the allowance to hold multiple-currencies, if I spend money locally from cash withdrawn from the borderless account, that cash will constitute "income received in Malaysia from foreign-sourced" right?

If this is the case, borderless account cannot help "avoid tax" then. So, back to square one...
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QUOTE(TOS @ Nov 14 2021, 01:38 PM)
I have a question. Choosing either MYR/SGD as my account balance, and given the allowance to hold multiple-currencies, if I spend money locally from cash withdrawn from the borderless account, that cash will constitute "income received in Malaysia from foreign-sourced" right?

If this is the case, borderless account cannot help "avoid tax" then. So, back to square one...
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technically...correct.

example... every month travel to SG buy a Mac... then sell in MY... this won't pass the smell test... but harder to track... lol

IRB audit your bank statements every month regular ~20k deposit, ask you to show proof what is this...

alternately... you bank statements shows no money movement... but you stay nice house drive nice car... where your money come from?...

don't forget they may ask for your foreign bank accounts statements also... always show money movement to MY...

anyways... all these use debit card chatter is ppl trying their luck lah... I dunno the fine line between spending n remittance... get from atm definitely latter...

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QUOTE(dwRK @ Nov 14 2021, 02:06 PM)
technically...correct.

example... every month travel to SG buy a Mac... then sell in MY... this won't pass the smell test... but harder to track... lol

IRB audit your bank statements every month regular ~20k deposit, ask you to show proof what is this...

alternately... you bank statements shows no money movement... but you stay nice house drive nice car... where your money come from?...

don't forget they may ask for your foreign bank accounts statements also... always show money movement to MY...

anyways... all these use debit card chatter is ppl trying their luck lah... I dunno the fine line between spending n remittance... get from atm definitely latter...
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So in the end still have to pay tax laugh.gif cannot run from the taxman. If wet market stalls can accept digital "payments", that would make tracing a whole lot harder since no need to bring cash, I guess a few years down the road we will see how things develop.

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So in the end still have to pay tax  laugh.gif cannot run from the taxman. If wet market stalls can accept digital "payments", that would make tracing a whole lot harder since no need to bring cash, I guess a few years down the road we will see how things develop.
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IRB will randomly pick ppl to audit... up to ppl to show proof... they are no tracing any payments... lol
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IRB will randomly pick ppl to audit... up to ppl to show proof... they are no tracing any payments... lol
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I was thinking if they audit you still have to trace back your source of funds if it is cash withdrawal from local banks, but if it is in the form of payments directly from say borderless account, then you can probably escape since it is "payments" from overseas and the cash is sourced from overseas.
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I was thinking if they audit you still have to trace back your source of funds if it is cash withdrawal from local banks, but if it is in the form of payments directly from say borderless account, then you can probably escape since it is "payments" from overseas and the cash is sourced from overseas.
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here's the thing lor... IRB can say any money you receive from overseas is considered income unless you can proof local taxes has been paid for them... so the burden of proof lies with you...
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You don't even need sg address now. Apparently they brought back borderless for Malaysians already.

I apply mine back then without any sg address. You have youtrip, revolut card.  Go compare and see which one is the cheapest. No need die die use TransferWise.
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Just to let everyone know, Borderless account is "re-enabled" in Malaysia, the CS rep from Wise has confirmed that card delivery is available for those from Malaysia.

*Borderless account is now called multi-currency account

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can just bring this card overseas and spend to get the best forex rate ? no longer need any bank cc that charges high markup rate
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And we can't get USD account details if our address in Malaysia ?
So how to transfer usd funds from ibkr to wise ?


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Sorry Wise says it is NOT available, but you can open accounts in other currencies (currency balances)

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can just bring this card overseas and spend to get the best forex rate ? no longer need any bank cc that charges high markup rate
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bp is still the best... and some bank cards are also zero fee

wise charges for top up and conversion

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can just bring this card overseas and spend to get the best forex rate ? no longer need any bank cc that charges high markup rate
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I tried a 30GBP spend on Wise Card vs BigPay, Wise Card came out to be about ~rm4 cheaper. I might do this from now on. Very nice.
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And we can't get USD account details if our address in Malaysia ?
So how to transfer usd funds from ibkr to wise ?
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Can get. You will get a routing number for Wire, can't setup ACH though.

Just deposit and click send in multicurrency balance, and send with the personal balance account details they give you. I deposited with GBP, USD and SGD this way.

I even withdrew GBP from IBKR to Wise at 0 fees.
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QUOTE(TOS @ Nov 17 2021, 02:37 PM)
Sorry Wise says it is NOT available, but you can open accounts in other currencies (currency balances)

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Weird. I asked them, and after some back and forth, they made it available to me. I'm a Malaysian citizen that never been to US UK or SG. I have both multi currency balance and account. Even managed to pay in MYR ✌️

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I tried a 30GBP spend on Wise Card vs BigPay, Wise Card came out to be about ~rm4 cheaper. I might do this from now on. Very nice.
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QUOTE(Hoshiyuu @ Nov 17 2021, 03:58 PM)
Can get. You will get a routing number for Wire, can't setup ACH though.

Just deposit and click send in multicurrency balance, and send with the personal balance account details they give you. I deposited with GBP, USD and SGD this way.

I even withdrew GBP from IBKR to Wise at 0 fees.
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not sure why it says malaysia address can't have USD account
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Wise damn stupid. So they tried sending me the card via DHL without writing phone number on the label, they missed delivery once, heng I managed to call DHL ask them to put my phone number.

I chat with customer support telling them they need to write phone number for Malaysian users, they aruged it's omitted for security reasons. My ass.


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So we can use this Wise multi currency account to save in foreign currency like bank's foreign currency account?
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So we can use this Wise multi currency account to save in foreign currency like bank's foreign currency account?
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Yes. And you can actually accept payment like a local, the bank account number are uniquely yours, no need for txn ref code.
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OK lah, there are few things I dislike about wise debit card.

1. You cannot set a default currency.

For example, your income is in SGD, your live here and you gonna spend MYR most of the time from the card. But if your MYR balance is exhausted, it will reach into other currencies first before touching SGD, because they charge lower fees for USD/MYR than SGD/MYR.

So if you manually change money from SGD to USD, then spend MYR, it converts USD to MYR, you just kena double conversion, 2x the transferwise fees. Yikes.

2. It is not cheaper than bigpay for certain purposes.

Bigpay overseas ATM fees are currently still more favourable than Wise.

3. When they deliver, you need to call DHL manually to add phone number - or it will just keep failing to deliver.

Like I said above, security my ass, they macam don't understand how Malaysians sign and retrieve courier deliveries.

Other than that, being able to use Apple Pay with MYR is damn syok man. EMV tokenizations like Apple Pay is the safest way to pay with card.


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QUOTE(Hoshiyuu @ Nov 17 2021, 06:05 PM)
Probably just not updated yet, quite new I feel.
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can you show the routing number?... this is like swift code for the US... wanna see what bank they use... thanks.
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not sure why it says malaysia address can't have USD account
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So we can use this Wise multi currency account to save in foreign currency like bank's foreign currency account?
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Hmm, then pretty useless lah with such low limit


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limited to combine value of RM20k only iirc
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Hmm, then pretty useless lah with such low limit
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you can open their business account... then unlimited...
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can you show the routing number?... this is like swift code for the US... wanna see what bank they use... thanks.
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My ACH routing is Community Federal.

https://www.businessinsider.com/transferwis...ices-occ-2016-5
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can you show the routing number?... this is like swift code for the US... wanna see what bank they use... thanks.
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My routing number is 084009519 which googling around seems to be affiliated directly to Wise?
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thanks
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My routing number is 084009519 which googling around seems to be affiliated directly to Wise?
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thanks

evolve bank & trust

I'll check again tomorrow on the pc...

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thanks

evolve bank & trust

I'll check again tomorrow on the pc...
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Your card from Singapore?
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the letter stamping comes from Singapore post
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yep i think they delivered from closest office which SG
the letter stamping comes from Singapore post
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Ok, just to confirm, you applied for the Wise card from Wise Malaysia with MY address right?
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Ok, just to confirm, you applied for the Wise card from Wise Malaysia with MY address right?
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you can open their business account... then unlimited...
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i tried this. turns out business account not supported in Malaysia. They dont prevent you from opening 1 though... you will go through all the hassle just to close the account later doh.gif
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i tried this. turns out business account not supported in Malaysia. They dont prevent you from opening 1 though... you will go through all the hassle just to close the account later doh.gif
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So what would be their final reply? Is it just business account is not supported in Malaysia yet? Or some other technical issue or it's not being approved in Malaysia yet?
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i tried this. turns out business account not supported in Malaysia. They dont prevent you from opening 1 though... you will go through all the hassle just to close the account later doh.gif
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strange...i read someone here in another tered has been using business account...
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So what would be their final reply? Is it just business account is not supported in Malaysia yet? Or some other technical issue or it's not being approved in Malaysia yet?
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strange...i read someone here in another tered has been using business account...
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They said:

We are reaching out to you about your business account.

Please note that we are not able to support Wise account (multi currency balance) feature for companies in Malaysia just yet.

I think can use business account for TRANSFERS only. Just cannot hold any money inside your wise account...
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They said:

We are reaching out to you about your business account.

Please note that we are not able to support Wise account (multi currency balance) feature for companies in Malaysia just yet.

I think can use business account for TRANSFERS only. Just cannot hold any money inside your wise account...
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thanks for latest info... I guess that guy probably gets same letter like you...
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They said:

We are reaching out to you about your business account.

Please note that we are not able to support Wise account (multi currency balance) feature for companies in Malaysia just yet.

I think can use business account for TRANSFERS only. Just cannot hold any money inside your wise account...
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Too bad, i think is not their problem, but mostly is the regulation from current government. I guess no need to tell more, you guys should know more about this.
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So yea I think it rolled out officially now for individual accounts.
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So yea I think it rolled out officially now for individual accounts.
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Wise Rolls out Multi Currency Account and Card in Malaysia

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Lim Paik Wan - Malaysia country manager is so young... and hidden fee.. banks sure don't like WISE
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Lim Paik Wan - Malaysia country manager is so young... and hidden fee.. banks sure don't like WISE
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having said that banks dont like all fintech tongue.gif they are too old school, management are elder generation with no digitalization sense
good to have these new solutions with better and more transparent fee for new generation

nowadays banks try to catch up with the digitalization trend but having hard time due to their structural problem and bureaucracy. tongue.gif
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Just ordered the card as well. Should be a good replacement for big pay

I didnt go through the TnC though.... is there any catch to this?
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I still get the msg 'debit card still not available in MY'
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Just ordered the card as well. Should be a good replacement for big pay

I didnt go through the TnC though.... is there any catch to this?
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Ok just went through the faq. So far the only limitation I see is max RM20k limit if you want to hold, this applies to all currencies you are holding and is the sum value

https://wise.com/help/articles/5sL5X2V2PbxU...L1cmJnbIVNGsm3h

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Ok just went through the faq. So far the only limitation I see is max RM20k limit if you want to hold, this applies to all currencies you are holding and is the sum value

https://wise.com/help/articles/5sL5X2V2PbxU...L1cmJnbIVNGsm3h
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big pay better or wise better?
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TransferWise of course. You cannot store foreign currency with bigpay.

If you have no need to store foreign currency, bigpwy, transfereise and coming soon mymy works

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Just want to ask can fund the account using credit card?

I can't find anything which state annual fees.

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Just want to ask can fund the account using credit card?

I can't find anything which state annual fees.
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There's a fee but yeah you can use VISA or Mastercard credit cards to fund your account in foreign currencies. The fees are pretty high though, basically you're paying the cost of it and then some. 3.89% charge to topup $1000. It's 0.41% to topup 1000 EURO. 2.8% for 1000 SGD which is slightly more expensive than using a debit card. It seems like it's dependent on the currency options. For RM there's only bank transfer available.
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QUOTE(Archemedia @ Nov 29 2021, 10:03 AM)
They said:

We are reaching out to you about your business account.

Please note that we are not able to support Wise account (multi currency balance) feature for companies in Malaysia just yet.

I think can use business account for TRANSFERS only. Just cannot hold any money inside your wise account...
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Can je. I have Wise Business Account. With balances in USD/EUR/SGD/MYR etc. My business is registered in Malaysia.

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There's a fee but yeah you can use VISA or Mastercard credit cards to fund your account in foreign currencies. The fees are pretty high though, basically you're paying the cost of it and then some. 3.89% charge to topup $1000. It's 0.41% to topup 1000 EURO. 2.8% for 1000 SGD which is slightly more expensive than using a debit card. It seems like it's dependent on the currency options. For RM there's only bank transfer available.
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Can je. I have Wise Business Account. With balances in USD/EUR/SGD/MYR etc. My business is registered in Malaysia.
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When did you register? Have you tried topping up and using the balance? or you only use for transfers directly
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Can je. I have Wise Business Account. With balances in USD/EUR/SGD/MYR etc. My business is registered in Malaysia.
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How do you handle the tax accounting?

Do you just record the forex rate on the day of the transaction then convert to MYR on paper?
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When did you register? Have you tried topping up and using the balance? or you only use for transfers directly
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Registered in 2019. Verified both business and personal last month, November 2021.

Can't topup directly in MYR into business account.

Need to topup MYR in personal account, then transfer to business account.

Or topup directly in other currencies (SGD, USD, EUR etc) into the business account. Can use Malaysian credit/debit card no problem. This way, charges are higher.

I haven't used it, because waiting for Wise to give my business debit card.

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How do you handle the tax accounting?

Do you just record the forex rate on the day of the transaction then convert to MYR on paper?
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Recorded in each respective currencies. Marked to market automatically by accounting software.
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Registered in 2019. Verified both business and personal last month, November 2021.

Can't topup directly in MYR into business account.

Need to topup MYR in personal account, then transfer to business account.

Or topup directly in other currencies (SGD, USD, EUR etc) into the business account. Can use Malaysian credit/debit card no problem. This way, charges are higher.

I haven't used it, because waiting for Wise to give my business debit card.
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I believe you are speaking hypothetically. You've never topped up your business balance or transfer to business balance before.

Yes you can topup the balance, but afterwards you will not have any buttons to transfer money out of your business account. They will only be able to refund you.
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QUOTE(Archemedia @ Dec 10 2021, 03:00 PM)
I believe you are speaking hypothetically. You've never topped up your business balance or transfer to business balance before.

Yes you can topup the balance, but afterwards you will not have any buttons to transfer money out of your business account. They will only be able to refund you.
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Already topup, both from credit card in SGD. And from MYR in personal account to SGD in business account.

U mean send button? I just sent from business to personal account too. No issue.

Below is screenshot of my business account.

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QUOTE(Mr Gray @ Dec 10 2021, 03:37 PM)
Already topup, both from credit card in SGD. And from MYR in personal account to SGD in business account.

U mean send button? I just sent from business to personal account too. No issue.

Below is screenshot of my business account.

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How much to open a business account?
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How much to open a business account?
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QUOTE(Mr Gray @ Dec 10 2021, 03:37 PM)
Already topup, both from credit card in SGD. And from MYR in personal account to SGD in business account.

U mean send button? I just sent from business to personal account too. No issue.

Below is screenshot of my business account.

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Hmm that's weird. they just told me it's not support last month, how come you can use it hmm.gif

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RM120 for verification.
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I guess it's non refundable? What's the perks of business account?
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I guess it's non refundable? What's the perks of business account?
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No funding RM20k restriction and you can hold unlimited amount balance in wise.
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No funding RM20k restriction and you can hold unlimited amount balance in wise.
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That's for free non business account. Not sure about business account.
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That's for free non business account. Not sure about business account.
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Look good and better than BP. Anyways, it VISA or MASTERCARD ?
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Look good and better than BP. Anyways, it VISA or MASTERCARD ?
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do any of the Wise cards work for online payment? Physical and digital seems not working...


Edit: Ok all seems to be fine. Wise cards are now working good. thumbup.gif

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do any of the Wise cards work for online payment? Physical and digital seems not working...
Edit: Ok all seems to be fine. Wise cards are now working good.  thumbup.gif
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How did you solved the problem?

I can't use wise virtual card to topup boost ewallet. And now boost blocked my account from using any card to topup. =_=
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our wise card considered as singapore origin card?
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How did you solved the problem?

I can't use wise virtual card to topup boost ewallet. And now boost blocked my account from using any card to topup. =_=
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Wise cards are international issued cards. Most of our e-wallets only accept Malaysia issued cards. Except for BigPay. icon_idea.gif

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Wise cards are international issued cards. Most of our e-wallets only accept Malaysia issued cards. Except for BigPay.  icon_idea.gif
Probably not Singapore. Tried on ShopeePay (which accepts Malaysia/Singapore cards). Rejected.
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QUOTE(street @ Dec 13 2021, 01:10 AM)
Wise cards are international issued cards. Most of our e-wallets only accept Malaysia issued cards. Except for BigPay.  icon_idea.gif
Probably not Singapore. Tried on ShopeePay (which accepts Malaysia/Singapore cards). Rejected.
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So wise card can't use to topup any ewallet in msia?
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For those who got their physical card, is it the same card as in the wise app? Looking at the card number, it look like wise card issued in United States but i remember that when I applied it say issued by Wise Sdn. Bhd.
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Is the Wise card a contactless card?
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Fees for Wise Visa Prepaid Card:
https://wise.com/my/multi-currency-account/...account-pricing


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ATM withdrawals after the first 2 free ones: RM5 / withdrawal

Charge for withdrawals above a cumulative RM1000 / month : 1.75% of the additional withdrawal amount

Additional charge for overseas withdrawal : RM5 / withdrawal



So, is it true that most Wise users here have no issue paying RM 13.70, to get Wise Visa Prepaid Card?
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Fees for Wise Visa Prepaid Card:
https://wise.com/my/multi-currency-account/...account-pricing
So, is it true that most Wise users here have no issue paying RM 13.70, to get Wise Visa Prepaid Card?
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some local banks already charge RM 10-20 per year for debit card...

13.7 is cheap
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QUOTE(kart @ Dec 14 2021, 07:05 PM)
Fees for Wise Visa Prepaid Card:
https://wise.com/my/multi-currency-account/...account-pricing
So, is it true that most Wise users here have no issue paying RM 13.70, to get Wise Visa Prepaid Card?
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Its free now until Jan

But the fee itself is actually reasonable I would say

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Is it a good idea to opt for the business account? I'm receiving 30-40k monthly, but the 20k cap is frustrating.

Worried that they may close if its used for personal usage.

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Bros,... if you are able to get hold of a DBS Multi-Currency Account, all the above problems will be solved and the costs will be cheaper.

EDited : Sorry, if you are receiving RM, then the DBS MCA is not applicable. Somehow,... the DBS MCA does not have an RM Wallet.

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QUOTE(kart @ Dec 14 2021, 07:05 PM)
So, is it true that most Wise users here have no issue paying RM 13.70, to get Wise Visa Prepaid Card?
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I don't mind paying for the card. I just dislike the fees on the transactions. Even transferring money back to a bank account in the same currency (MYR) has fees.
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The latest updates on MyMy show it has similar features to Wise.
https://medium.com/@my-my
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QUOTE(Kesh1018 @ Dec 15 2021, 06:25 AM)
Is it a good idea to opt for the business account? I'm receiving 30-40k monthly, but the 20k cap is frustrating.

Worried that they may close if its used for personal usage.
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if your transaction is that big, why not thumbsup.gif
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is it "Wise" to apply this?

I already have BigPay & PayPal, also Tng Wallet (wish it had foreign a/c too)
so many eWallet and Pay like GrabPay, Boost, ShopeePay for different purposes doh.gif (of course only available use in Msia)

Hope to have just only 1-2 eWallet/pay can manage all my utilities, local/foreign bank transfers, daily expenses

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QUOTE(chupapi_munyayo @ Dec 16 2021, 12:28 PM)
Hope to have just only 1-2 eWallet/pay can manage all my utilities, local/foreign bank transfers, daily expenses
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I wish so too lol. Thought of using Wise for everything but the fees are a major disadvantage.
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Thank you for your respective replies, dwRK, ZeneticX and Gwynbleidd.

Yes, paying RM 13.70 fee for Wise Visa Prepaid Card is not a big issue, as long as we can get reasonable benefits from using the card.


If we transfer our money from our savings accounts in foreign country to Wise Multi Currency Account, and then spend the money via Wise Visa Prepaid Card (swiping the card on credit card terminals, or paying for online transactions), income tax is till being imposed on our money, right?

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QUOTE(kart @ Dec 14 2021, 07:05 PM)
Fees for Wise Visa Prepaid Card:
https://wise.com/my/multi-currency-account/...account-pricing
So, is it true that most Wise users here have no issue paying RM 13.70, to get Wise Visa Prepaid Card?
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QUOTE(dwRK @ Dec 14 2021, 07:18 PM)
some local banks already charge RM 10-20 per year for debit card...

13.7 is cheap
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I am willing to spend RM13.70 /year and give it to wise especially the part where I get access to a multicurrency account. What do I get if I paid RM13/year to Malaysian banks? Nothing.

Trust me. The wise multicurrency account is a game changer for those receiving USD. I have been receiving free USD every year for almost 5 years form shopback sites in US and I couldn't be more pelaee with it. So kart just cough up the money. It's cheap.

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i don't see any annual fee. seems like only application fee.
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i don't see any annual fee. seems like only application fee.
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Is wise better or merchantrade ? Both seems able to hold multi currency also.
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Is wise better or merchantrade ? Both seems able to hold multi currency also.
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Is wise better or merchantrade ? Both seems able to hold multi currency also.
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iirc... merchantrade you can only top up myr through them and convert at their markup rates

wise you get your own virtual accounts, anyone can top up / deposit supported currencies... if require conversion will be spot rate + fee

wise is by far better

if you just wanna spend, buy overseas stuff... big pay better

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QUOTE(kart @ Dec 16 2021, 10:09 PM)
Thank you for your respective replies, dwRK, ZeneticX and Gwynbleidd.

Yes, paying RM 13.70 fee for Wise Visa Prepaid Card is not a big issue, as long as we can get reasonable benefits from using the card.
If we transfer our money from our savings accounts in foreign country to Wise Multi Currency Account, and then spend the money via Wise Visa Prepaid Card (swiping the card on credit card terminals, or paying for online transactions), income tax is till being imposed on our money, right?
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imho... once you xfer into wise mca... it is deemed to be remitted into Malaysia, if the monies is an income, it is taxable next year
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If your card was issued in Malaysia: You can take out money for free twice a month — as long as the total amount is under 1,000 MYR. But after that, we’ll charge you 5 MYR per transaction. This is a fixed fee. If you take out over 1,000 MYR in one month, we’ll charge you 1.75% on top of that.

Is that mean we can withdraw up to RM1000 for free in Malasia?
Then what about atm withdrawal in oversea countries? How to calculate the fee?

In contrast, bigpay charge RM6 for local and RM10 for oversea.
As simple as that.
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QUOTE(Kadaj @ Dec 18 2021, 12:39 PM)
Is that mean we can withdraw up to RM1000 for free in Malasia?
Then what about atm withdrawal in oversea countries? How to calculate the fee?

In contrast, bigpay charge RM6 for local and RM10 for oversea.
As simple as that.
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I think it means equivalent of RM 1000 in foreign currency. I still think RM 5 + 1.75% fee is not that expensive compared to withdraw from ATM bank card(with unfavorable forex rate) or from money changer.

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QUOTE(wotvr @ Dec 18 2021, 05:13 PM)
I think it means equivalent of RM 1000 in foreign currency. I still think RM 5 + 1.75% fee is not that expensive compared to withdraw from ATM bank card(with unfavorable forex rate) or from money changer.
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If I wanna withdraw SGD 1,000 that means the fee will be RM5 + SGD 17.5?

So bigpay charge RM10 is the best choice for oversea atm withdrawal?
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QUOTE(Kadaj @ Dec 18 2021, 06:14 PM)
If I wanna withdraw SGD 1,000 that means the fee will be RM5 + SGD 17.5?

So bigpay charge RM10 is the best choice for oversea atm withdrawal?
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I think you need to look at the forex rate they offer and not only the charges.
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Others than the fees stated in https://wise.com/my/multi-currency-account/...account-pricing, is there any other fees for Wise Visa Prepaid Card, perhaps mentioned in more detailed terms and conditions of the card?


My concern is whether inactivity fee will be imposed for Wise Visa Prepaid Card, or not. I will be using the card on as-needed basis. In other words, I will not frequently be using the card.


Let's say that I have not used the card for many months. Will there be inactivity fee imposed?


QUOTE(dwRK @ Dec 17 2021, 09:31 AM)
imho... once you xfer into wise mca... it is deemed to be remitted into Malaysia, if the monies is an income, it is taxable next year
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Thank you for sharing your opinion.

For us to use the Wise Multi Currency Account, we would need documentation, to prove that the money transferred into Wise Multi Currency Account (regardless of any currency) is not income. Otherwise, it is costly to use Wise Multi Currency Account in year 2022, because income tax is being imposed on our money.

In other words, we can say that our Wise Multi Currency Account is domiciled in Malaysia, since we opened our Wise Multi Currency Account as Malaysian tax residents.

Sigh, it is more difficult for us.

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QUOTE(kart @ Dec 20 2021, 09:02 AM)

Thank you for sharing your opinion.

For us to use the Wise Multi Currency Account, we would need documentation, to prove that the money transferred into Wise Multi Currency Account (regardless of any currency) is not income. Otherwise, it is costly to use Wise Multi Currency Account in year 2022, because income tax is being imposed on our money.

In other words, we can say that our Wise Multi Currency Account is domiciled in Malaysia, since we opened our Wise Multi Currency Account as Malaysian tax residents.

Sigh, it is more difficult for us.
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one should always have documentation of one's monies... local and foreign wink.gif

wise is just another vessel for moving funds about... I think it's still a bit gray area as one can argue that mca funds are technically still offshore until you spend it locally or you put into ringgit account, especially when they give you foreign account banks/numbers...
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Hey. Wondering if wise business account is available right now in Malaysia? If yes, will I be getting business card (debit)
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Hey. Wondering if wise business account is available right now in Malaysia? If yes, will I be getting business card (debit)
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People said it's available. Need to pay rm120 for it.
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Malaysia business account is not available, they will refund u the 120 later on.
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Well - not sure if it's because I hadnt use the pin and pay yet to activate, but tried adding card to apple pay - NOPE.

Mine is the Visa version (personal acc - business acc is still missing this), which is the "out of beta" version

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QUOTE(000022 @ Dec 24 2021, 10:10 AM)
Well - not sure if it's because I hadnt use the pin and pay yet to activate, but tried adding card to apple pay - NOPE.

Mine is the Visa version (personal acc - business acc is still missing this), which is the "out of beta" version
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Received MY Wise card this week and managed to activate/use it for chip & pin transaction.

However, it failed to get through contactless transaction yesterday, after activation.

Anyone faces similar problem ?

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QUOTE(leo2010 @ Dec 24 2021, 11:47 AM)
Received MY Wise card this week and managed to activate/use it for chip & pin transaction.

However, it failed to get through contactless transaction yesterday, after activation.

Anyone faces similar problem ?

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Check card settings? From my settings, seems like you need to enable it after activating it via chip & pin
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Check card settings? From my settings, seems like you need to enable it after activating it via chip & pin
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it is enabled for all payment methods (contactless inclusive), not exceeding transaction limits either.

I will ask for the transaction error codes next time when I try.


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the max zero-charge MYR withdraw only rm2000/month?

if i would like to hedge myr depreciation, by topping up inside then convert to USD, later say USD/MYR increase, convert back to MYR n wanna withdraw as MYR ma kena charged liao

like this also considered "income" ah?


also max MYR can hold in wise is just rm20k?

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QUOTE(premier239 @ Dec 24 2021, 04:33 PM)
the max zero-charge MYR withdraw only rm2000/month?

if i would like to hedge myr depreciation, by topping up inside then convert to USD, later say USD/MYR increase, convert back to MYR n wanna withdraw as MYR ma kena charged liao

like this also considered "income" ah?
also max MYR can hold in wise is just rm20k?
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Forex profit is income... but this case probably close one eye lah

yes 20k
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Forex profit is income... but this case probably close one eye lah

yes 20k
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i see, but for other currency like USD & SGD, did they state the max amount to hold in account?
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i see, but for other currency like USD & SGD, did they state the max amount to hold in account?
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can have any currency but total account value max myr 20k...

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total account value myr 20k...
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hmmm, means if more than rm20k, for normies better save in cimb sg... or hedge/invest in ibkr
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hmmm, means if more than rm20k, for normies better save in cimb sg... or hedge/invest in ibkr
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wise is not a bank... just a payment gateway...
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QUOTE(leo2010 @ Dec 24 2021, 11:47 AM)
Received MY Wise card this week and managed to activate/use it for chip & pin transaction.

However, it failed to get through contactless transaction yesterday, after activation.

Anyone faces similar problem ?

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Is your pin 4 digit? Does it work with pin and pay because in MY we need 6 digit pin.
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Is your pin 4 digit? Does it work with pin and pay because in MY we need 6 digit pin.
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It's 4-digit PIN and worked with chip & PIN transaction.

I just tried contactless at another store just now and the transaction went through successfully.

It's all good to go.


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Received my card too. Not gonna use it but since its free to apply why not. Next year want to apply need to pay. Plus no annual fee. Free things must take biggrin.gif
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I have 2 question:

1) if i have usd balance in wise account, then i use the card to pay for myr goods. It will auto convert the balance need to pay for the goods correct? Which is around 0.2% expense if im not mistaken.

2) if i have myr balance in wise account and want to transfer it to myr bank account what is the charge incurred? As in is it fixed value or % based?
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So anyone can take over this post and change it to transferwise discussion? Admin can help?
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QUOTE(iqlas @ Dec 29 2021, 12:27 PM)
I have 2 question:

1) if i have usd balance in wise account, then i use the card to pay for myr goods. It will auto convert the balance need to pay for the goods correct? Which is around 0.2% expense if im not mistaken.

2) if i have myr balance in wise account and want to transfer it to myr bank account what is the charge incurred? As in is it fixed value or % based?
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QUOTE(iqlas @ Dec 29 2021, 12:27 PM)
I have 2 question:

1) if i have usd balance in wise account, then i use the card to pay for myr goods. It will auto convert the balance need to pay for the goods correct? Which is around 0.2% expense if im not mistaken.

2) if i have myr balance in wise account and want to transfer it to myr bank account what is the charge incurred? As in is it fixed value or % based?
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Check the conversion calculator here:
https://wise.com/price-change/borderless-co...879&scl=7969227

it's 0.5% it seems.


For 2, I'm not sure if you can do MYR to MYR transfers, at least it seems so on business accounts

QUOTE(kokomon @ Dec 24 2021, 05:01 PM)
Is your pin 4 digit? Does it work with pin and pay because in MY we need 6 digit pin.
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Works fine, just do the 4pin and confirm it. Funny thing actually, if you go to europe and use your MY chip and pin card, some machines only accept 4 pins, so you have to input the first four pin of your six instead

QUOTE(RickJames09 @ Dec 21 2021, 06:45 PM)
Hey. Wondering if wise business account is available right now in Malaysia? If yes, will I be getting business card (debit)
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There are business accounts in Malaysia. But the business accounts do not have debit card support like individual account, it's not available yet. Like others mentioned, to verify your business acc, you have to pay a fee and submit documentations. If they are not able to verify you, they will refund the payment. So check your email, in most cases, there are followups on documentation submissions

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So next time if I wanna transfer to IBKR how? I deposit money direct into my USD wise then transfer to IBKR. After May 2022 I can’t do so anymore?

Nvm got the answer from this post. Thanks

QUOTE(Hoshiyuu @ Nov 17 2021, 03:58 PM)
Can get. You will get a routing number for Wire, can't setup ACH though.

Just deposit and click send in multicurrency balance, and send with the personal balance account details they give you. I deposited with GBP, USD and SGD this way.

I even withdrew GBP from IBKR to Wise at 0 fees.
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anyone tried using their card on some foreign sites that only accept their local CC?

I noticed we can change the billing address of the card including the country


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QUOTE(greyshadow @ Dec 31 2021, 04:01 PM)

I noticed we can change the billing address of the card including the country
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if not later they cancel card service for malaysia... hahaha
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Does anyone know when we use the Wise debit card to withdraw cash, which bank's ATM allow for zero charge? If there is a charge, how much is it?

Thank you.

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QUOTE(Justmua @ Dec 31 2021, 06:14 PM)
Does anyone know when we use the Wise debit card to withdraw cash, which bank's ATM allow for zero charge? If there is a charge, how much is it?

Thank you.
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While waiting for value added responses, I Googled and found this.
Hope it can provides you with some info while you wait....
How much does it cost to withdraw cash?
https://wise.com/help/articles/2935769/how-...o-withdraw-cash

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QUOTE(MUM @ Dec 31 2021, 06:21 PM)
While waiting for value added responses, I Googled and found this.
Hope it can provides you with some info while you wait....
How much does it cost to withdraw cash?
https://wise.com/help/articles/2935769/how-...o-withdraw-cash
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This is WISE charge but I think usually bank's ATM have some kind of charge to use them as well. I'm unsure of the amount
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OK. If anyone knows of local ATM charges, do share.


QUOTE(alextan99 @ Dec 31 2021, 06:22 PM)
This is WISE charge but I think usually bank's ATM have some kind of charge to use them as well. I'm unsure of the amount
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QUOTE(Justmua @ Dec 31 2021, 06:25 PM)
OK. If anyone knows of local ATM charges, do share.
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From that link,...
If you got your debit card in Japan, Singapore or Canada you won’t be able to use it to make ATM withdrawals locally.

Did not include malaysia? 🤔🤔
Or not yet update the info yet? 😳
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QUOTE(000022 @ Dec 31 2021, 10:56 AM)
Works fine, just do the 4pin and confirm it. Funny thing actually, if you go to europe and use your MY chip and pin card, some machines only accept 4 pins, so you have to input the first four pin of your six instead
I was just about to ask this regarding 4 pins here and 6 pins overseas and vice-versa. Thanks for the info! smile.gif
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I was just about to ask this regarding 4 pins here and 6 pins overseas and vice-versa. Thanks for the info! smile.gif
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i have a 6 pin foreign card... when I use here, cucuk into pos straight away approve and print receipt liao... no need to enter pin... pin only for ATM withdrawals... lol
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QUOTE(Justmua @ Dec 31 2021, 06:14 PM)
Does anyone know when we use the Wise debit card to withdraw cash, which bank's ATM allow for zero charge? If there is a charge, how much is it?

Thank you.
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QUOTE(alextan99 @ Dec 31 2021, 06:22 PM)
This is WISE charge but I think usually bank's ATM have some kind of charge to use them as well. I'm unsure of the amount
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QUOTE(yklooi @ Dec 31 2021, 06:30 PM)
From that link,...
If you got your debit card in Japan, Singapore or Canada you won’t be able to use it to make ATM withdrawals locally.

Did not include malaysia? 🤔🤔
Or not yet update the info yet? 😳
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i dunno how wise set up the card for local ATM...

If treated as local card... just withdraw amount and wise will manage the fees per t&c... I suspect this is the case

if treated as foreign card... you have option to pick conversion by the atm bank with its cut throat fx rate, or no conversion that will be then handled by wise
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QUOTE(dwRK @ Dec 31 2021, 09:19 PM)
i dunno how wise set up the card for local ATM...

If treated as local card... just withdraw amount and wise will manage the fees per t&c... I suspect this is the case

if treated as foreign card... you have option to pick conversion by the atm bank with its cut throat fx rate, or no conversion that will be then handled by wise
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From the debit card pricing
https://wise.com/my/multi-currency-account/pricing

Pretty steep if you withdraw > rm 1000 per month @ 1.75%. Better to just remit to local bank account and withdraw there.
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QUOTE(000022 @ Jan 1 2022, 08:42 AM)
From the debit card pricing
https://wise.com/my/multi-currency-account/pricing

Pretty steep if you withdraw > rm 1000 per month @ 1.75%. Better to just remit to local bank account and withdraw there.
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at least they give some free withdrawals... its not a bank card so it's to be expected

some local banks also charge if you withdraw more than x times depending on type of account

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Ordered my Wise card today. Still free of charge with the standard postal delivery. Seems like the "promotion" has been extended.

Side note: I am interested in how much Wise makes out of all the kind and nice services provided, checking their IR page, while gross margin is close to 70%, the bottom line net margin is somewhere between 3-10%.
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Wtf this is year 2020 thread. Who went and resurrect this thread? Darn
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Wtf this is year 2020 thread. Who went and resurrect this thread? Darn
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anyone have experience with wise business? is it instant approval when open account? do they have debit card for business? thanks
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I got the wise card today but then when wanna activate the app say not available at Malaysia.
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I can activate.

QUOTE(killeralta @ Jan 3 2022, 11:02 PM)
I got the wise card today but then when wanna activate  the app say not available at Malaysia.
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I got the wise card today but then when wanna activate  the app say not available at Malaysia.
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I got the wise card today but then when wanna activate  the app say not available at Malaysia.
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You need to spend by using Pin to active the card.
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I got the wise card today but then when wanna activate  the app say not available at Malaysia.
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Make sure you're using your personal account. Business account has no support for it yet
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Got my card today too. Contactless transaction activation requires one PIN transaction. Not sure where to spend RM 1 with PIN to avoid cashier giving me long face. sweat.gif
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If not mistaken for the first PIN transaction, withdrawal at ATM is counted as well. Not necessary need to spend at merchant terminal

Please correct me if I'm wrong
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Got my card today too. Contactless transaction activation requires one PIN transaction. Not sure where to spend RM 1 with PIN to avoid cashier giving me long face. sweat.gif
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anyone have experience with wise business? is it instant approval when open account? do they have debit card for business? thanks
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I got one opened earlier today.

1) Sign up, fill in all the information.
2) You are unable to topup the fund to verify your account via MYR bank.
3) Complete your verification by paying 112RM using credit/debit card using SGD (Extra charges will apply due to exchange rate and charges by card company)
4) Once you try to add fund into your account, they will hold the fund and request documents for verification via email
5) Follow email link to upload the documents(SSM INFO not the SSM cover cert, and credit card statement stating your house address, Telco bill not accepted)
I found out there is 2 link. One for Ssm and one for bank statement
6) Wait a while and your account will be verified and you can obtain 8 currency bank account SGD,EURO,US and etc. Malaysia is not supported yet.

Finally no business debit card yet. You can only transfer fund to other bank acc.
I have yet to try transferring to my personal wise account yet. Will give it a try once I receive payment from my SG client.
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QUOTE(Archemedia @ Jan 3 2022, 08:01 PM)
this is an active discussion thread.... no resurrection or whatsoever
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It says wise closing borderless account in year 2020. I was thinking it is referring to 2022. Check title of thread. After read closely only realise.

So no more such news of them closing borderless account right for Malaysia? Now smooth sailing adi?

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QUOTE(ZeneticX @ Jan 4 2022, 04:38 PM)
If not mistaken for the first PIN transaction, withdrawal at ATM is counted as well. Not necessary need to spend at merchant terminal

Please correct me if I'm wrong
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Need to pay for the withdrawal charges right?

QUOTE(Hoshiyuu @ Jan 4 2022, 08:51 PM)
I did it at McD for an ice cream cone at the self serving panel biggrin.gif
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Yeah, I was thinking the same too. laugh.gif
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I am sorry that I cannot locate a more recent PayPal thread. Anyway, I want to ask on how to transfer USD from my PayPal Malaysia account, to my Wise Multi Currency USD account.


I have tiny amount of USD in my PayPal Malaysia account. The issue is that PayPal Malaysia allows withdrawal to only Malaysian bank savings accounts. As such, my USD will be converted at PayPal's unfavourable USD-MYR rate.


I would prefer that my USD is directly transferred from my PayPal Malaysia account, to my Wise Multi Currency USD account. That way, I can keep my money as USD, avoiding the loss to currency exchange. I do not mind paying some fee for the direct transfer, as long as my money is retained as USD.


Thank you for your advice. smile.gif

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QUOTE(kart @ Jan 5 2022, 09:57 AM)
I am sorry that I cannot locate a more recent PayPal thread. Anyway, I want to ask on how to transfer USD from my PayPal Malaysia account, to my Wise Multi Currency USD account.
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While waiting for responses or if you cannot afford to wait for responses, May I suggest that you contact wise for an answer like this.
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Need to pay for the withdrawal charges right?

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Website says first 2 local atm withdrawal up to RM 1000 per month is free.

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QUOTE(kart @ Jan 5 2022, 09:57 AM)
I am sorry that I cannot locate a more recent PayPal thread. Anyway, I want to ask on how to transfer USD from my PayPal Malaysia account, to my Wise Multi Currency USD account.
I have tiny amount of USD in my PayPal Malaysia account. The issue is that PayPal Malaysia allows withdrawal to only Malaysian bank savings accounts. As such, my USD will be converted at PayPal's unfavourable USD-MYR rate.
I would prefer that my USD is directly transferred from my PayPal Malaysia account, to my Wise Multi Currency USD account. That way, I can keep my money as USD, avoiding the loss to currency exchange. I do not mind paying some fee for the direct transfer, as long as my money is retained as USD.
Thank you for your advice. smile.gif
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There is a USD7.5 flat rate fee for "Receiving" USD wire transfers, FYI ..

Account pricing
Receive money in EUR, USD, GBP, AUD, NZD, HUF & SGD Free
Receive USD using ACH or bank debit Free
Receive USD wire transfers
7.50 USD


To "Add" USD, there is a fixed fee of USD4.14.


I wonder what is the difference between "Add" vs "Receive", apart from the fee structure.

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QUOTE(leo2010 @ Jan 5 2022, 10:57 AM)
There is a USD7.5 flat rate fee for "Receiving" USD wire transfers, FYI ..

Account pricing
Receive money in EUR, USD, GBP, AUD, NZD, HUF & SGD Free
Receive USD using ACH or bank debit Free
Receive USD wire transfers
7.50 USD
To "Add" USD, there is a fixed fee of USD4.14.
I wonder what is the difference between "Add" vs "Receive", apart from the fee structure.
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currently if you transfer above USD2k+ to receiving in Wise account, then Wise is cheaper:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZQGDscCuro&t=330s

If below that amount, transfer to CIMB SG method is cheaper. Can check his other videos on how to do that.

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QUOTE(fruitie @ Jan 5 2022, 09:50 AM)
Need to pay for the withdrawal charges right?
Yeah, I was thinking the same too. laugh.gif
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First 2 local withdrawal up to RM1k per month is free
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Just tried first time withdrawal using Wise card at Maybank ATM. Works like a charm, and you get instant notification from the app as well

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Just tried first time withdrawal using Wise card at Maybank ATM. Works like a charm, and you get instant notification from the app as well

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Honestly not really. Wise main function is still a multi currency platform for you to store limited oversea currency and transfer them to offshore account / spend with limited time overseas

I withdraw just to activate the card and get that RM100 that I transfered during card sign up in cash

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Honestly not really. Wise main function is still a multi currency platform for you to store limited oversea currency and transfer them to offshore account / spend with limited time overseas

I withdraw just to activate the card and get that RM100 that I transfered during card sign up in cash
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all other fintech can send out only

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Hello guys, I just received my card which last 4 digit number is 5150. I have canceled this card and requested a new card because it has passed the delivery date and I did not expect the canceled card arrived to me. My newly requested card is 0328 and I have several transactions on it. May I know what should I do? I have already emailed Wise on this issue.
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QUOTE(Sherman Kong @ Jan 8 2022, 11:32 AM)
Hello guys, I just received my card which last 4 digit number is 5150. I have canceled this card and requested a new card because it has passed the delivery date and I did not expect the canceled card arrived to me. My newly requested card is 0328 and I have several transactions on it. May I know what should I do? I have already emailed Wise on this issue.
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Just wait for WISE to answer to you as we don’t know the transactional details doh.gif
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QUOTE(leo2010 @ Dec 24 2021, 11:47 AM)
Received MY Wise card this week and managed to activate/use it for chip & pin transaction.

However, it failed to get through contactless transaction yesterday, after activation.

Anyone faces similar problem ?

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QUOTE(leo2010 @ Dec 24 2021, 09:00 PM)
It's 4-digit PIN and worked with chip & PIN transaction.

I just tried contactless at another store just now and the transaction went through successfully.

It's all good to go.
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I faced the same problem as you. Tried chip and pin 1st time, then tried contactless at another store but failed.
Had to use chip and pin again and successful. Then tried 3rd store, still cannot use contactless. rclxub.gif
How did you manage to solve your problem? Maybe because I used all in the same day?
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I faced the same problem as you. Tried chip and pin 1st time, then tried contactless at another store but failed.
Had to use chip and pin again and successful. Then tried 3rd store, still cannot use contactless.  rclxub.gif
How did you manage to solve your problem? Maybe because I used all in the same day?
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1st PIN activation(successful) and contactless(declined) transactions were at the same shop on different days.

Subsequent contactless transaction(successful) was at a different shop. I have not made any new transactions since then.

Maybe contactless is only accepted at certain outlets ?

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1st PIN activation(successful) and contactless(declined) transactions were at the same shop on different days.

Subsequent contactless transaction(successful) was at a different shop. I have not made any new transactions since then.

Maybe contactless is only accepted at certain outlets ?
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Yes, seems like it. Guess it's just trial and error then.
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There are different type of terminals that merchants using, eg. provided by UOB bank, CIMB bank and etc.

Can we share which merchants or bank terminals that you can or can't paid by paywave?
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There are different type of terminals that merchants using, eg. provided by UOB bank, CIMB bank and etc.

Can we share which merchants or bank terminals that you can or can't paid by paywave?
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Contactless :
Hong Leong - ok
Public Bank - declined
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Hey guys, I have received my Wise card. Have been using it for a while for in store transactions. I noticed when I go to McDonalds (Maybank terminals) it always decline to accept wave, even swipe payments; I didn’t disable any wave/swipe transactions so it has left me baffled. I always have to resort to PIN transactions. Has anyone encountered this and what is the solution?
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QUOTE(The1stHumanBeing @ Jan 10 2022, 02:07 PM)
Hey guys, I have received my Wise card. Have been using it for a while for in store transactions. I noticed when I go to McDonalds (Maybank terminals) it always decline to accept wave, even swipe payments; I didn’t disable any wave/swipe transactions so it has left me baffled. I always have to resort to PIN transactions. Has anyone encountered this and what is the solution?
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Wise Visa Paywave / Contactless / NFC:

1. Hong Leong : 7-Eleven, 99 Speedmart - Ok @leo2010 @xander83 && 99 Speedmart - Declined @Justmua @dwRK
2. Public Bank : Mr DIY - Declined @leo2010 @dwRK
3. Maybank : McDonald's, FamilyMart - Ok @xander83 @The1stHumanBeing && McDonald's, Starbucks - Declined @The1stHumanBeing @dwRK
4. OCBC : Pepper Lunch - Declined @The1stHumanBeing
5. CIMB (CARDPAY by GHL) : llao llao, Tesco - Declined @The1stHumanBeing @dwRK
6. Aeon: Aeon, Daiso - Declined @dwRK @The1stHumanBeing
7. GHL : BWY, Tealive (Both) - Declined - @dwRK @The1stHumanBeing
8. WorldLine Vanila (SONICBOOM) : Pavilion Bukit Bintang (Parking) - Declined - @The1stHumanBeing
9. Pin & Paywave : Donki - Declined @hedfi

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for those who failed their contactless after first PIN transaction, maybe try to disable and enable the settings again from the app
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QUOTE(TOS @ Jan 2 2022, 05:07 PM)
Ordered my Wise card today. Still free of charge with the standard postal delivery. Seems like the "promotion" has been extended.

Side note: I am interested in how much Wise makes out of all the kind and nice services provided, checking their IR page, while gross margin is close to 70%, the bottom line net margin is somewhere between 3-10%.
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The promo has been extended until when? When I asked wise on their fb, they replied 'To order a card now, you'll pay a fee of 13.70 MYR.' hmm.gif
Do you apply on web or app?

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QUOTE(rocketaz @ Jan 10 2022, 05:13 PM)
The promo has been extended until when? When I asked wise on their fb, they replied 'To order a card now, you'll pay a fee of 13.70 MYR.'  hmm.gif
Do you apply on web or app?
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No idea about extension till when, just login to Wise web portal and apply card from there. I didn't talk to any customer rep. before and after the application.
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QUOTE(Kadaj @ Jan 10 2022, 02:38 PM)
Wise Visa Paywave / Contactless / NFC:

1. Hong Leong - Ok @leo2010
2. Public Bank - Declined @leo2010
3. Maybank : McDonald's - Declined @The1stHumanBeing

If more people can share more info, we shall know whether it's certain bank disabled the NFC function over all of their terminals OR
just merchants turned off the NFC function at certain outlets.
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711 and 99 speedmart working fine both using Hong Leong terminal with wave or pin
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QUOTE(xander83 @ Jan 11 2022, 04:19 AM)
711 and 99 speedmart working fine both using Hong Leong terminal with wave or pin
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Thanks, updated.
Currently seems like only hong leong terminal working fine with paywave.

If anyone tried tesco, aeon and petrol stations pls let me know.
Quite curious which terminal they're using as well.
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QUOTE(Kadaj @ Jan 11 2022, 01:27 PM)
Thanks, updated.
Currently seems like only hong leong terminal working fine with paywave.

If anyone tried tesco, aeon and petrol stations pls let me know.
Quite curious which terminal they're using as well.
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Those terminals are white wired or orange colour which is wireless are the ones by Hong Leong

Later will try Maybank ones to see whether it works or not
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Anyone tried to apply for the card after 2 Jan 2022? Any idea if the card is still free of charge?

Thanks.
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QUOTE(Kadaj @ Jan 11 2022, 01:27 PM)
Thanks, updated.
Currently seems like only hong leong terminal working fine with paywave.

If anyone tried tesco, aeon and petrol stations pls let me know.
Quite curious which terminal they're using as well.
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Tried using Wise Card for Pepper Lunch in Pavilion Bukit Bintang, both wave transactions failed. The merchant used OCBC terminal.
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I applied for the card without topping up rm101, will i get the card?

I mean the app says I will get it by 27th of January

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post Jan 13 2022, 07:29 PM

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QUOTE(Kadaj @ Jan 11 2022, 01:27 PM)
Thanks, updated.
Currently seems like only hong leong terminal working fine with paywave.

If anyone tried tesco, aeon and petrol stations pls let me know.
Quite curious which terminal they're using as well.
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Tried using Wise Card for llao llao in Pavilion Bukit Bintang, both wave transactions failed. The merchant used CIMB terminal.

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I applied for the card without topping up rm101, will i get the card?

I mean the app says I will get it by 27th of January
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QUOTE(siaush @ Jan 13 2022, 02:59 PM)
Anyone tried to apply for the card after 2 Jan 2022? Any idea if the card is still free of charge?

Thanks.
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QUOTE(siaush @ Jan 13 2022, 02:59 PM)
Anyone tried to apply for the card after 2 Jan 2022? Any idea if the card is still free of charge?

Thanks.
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I think you can still try to go through the steps, just choose to stop whenever the website asks you to enter your bank account/other payment methods. If not, you can safely assume there will be no charges. That's what I did back then. Just curious to try things out.
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QUOTE(nate_nightroad @ Jan 13 2022, 06:56 PM)
I applied for the card without topping up rm101, will i get the card?

I mean the app says I will get it by 27th of January
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I applied without topping up anything in Wise. Will let you know here when my card arrives.
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QUOTE(The1stHumanBeing @ Jan 13 2022, 07:29 PM)
Tried using Wise Card for llao llao in Pavilion Bukit Bintang, both wave transactions failed. The merchant used CIMB terminal.
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Thanks, updated!
Currently still only HLB terminal enabled for NFC and all others declined.

Now I'm curious those merchants that declined wise visa paywave, will they decline credit card's paywave issued by other banks as welll?
If answer yes, that means they really reject all NFC payments;
If answer no, that means something wrong with wise card.
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QUOTE(TOS @ Jan 13 2022, 09:16 PM)
I applied without topping up anything in Wise. Will let you know here when my card arrives.
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post Jan 13 2022, 10:23 PM

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QUOTE(TOS @ Jan 13 2022, 09:16 PM)
I applied without topping up anything in Wise. Will let you know here when my card arrives.
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Wasnt topping up part of the kyc process? It was skippable?
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QUOTE(thecurious @ Jan 13 2022, 10:23 PM)
Wasnt topping up part of the kyc process? It was skippable?
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During the application process to obtain the card, there is no kyc process needed. My account has been verified in first place. Perhaps I did transactions before to my SG bank account.

If you just opened a new Wise account with them and have not done any transactions but straightaway apply for a card, then maybe kyc needed?

Not quite sure anyway.

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QUOTE(TOS @ Jan 13 2022, 09:16 PM)
I think you can still try to go through the steps, just choose to stop whenever the website asks you to enter your bank account/other payment methods. If not, you can safely assume there will be no charges. That's what I did back then. Just curious to try things out.
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I see.. I am able to reach the page asking to top up RM101, not sure if the fee will be deducted from there confused.gif
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QUOTE(The1stHumanBeing @ Jan 13 2022, 06:53 PM)
Tried using Wise Card for Pepper Lunch in Pavilion Bukit Bintang, both wave transactions failed. The merchant used OCBC terminal.
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Is it grey color wired terminal?

QUOTE(The1stHumanBeing @ Jan 13 2022, 07:29 PM)
Tried using Wise Card for llao llao in Pavilion Bukit Bintang, both wave transactions failed. The merchant used CIMB terminal.
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If it is CIMB grey Color wired terminal which have a lot issues doh.gif

QUOTE(Kadaj @ Jan 13 2022, 09:25 PM)
Thanks, updated!
Currently still only HLB terminal enabled for NFC and all others declined.

Now I'm curious those merchants that declined wise visa paywave, will they decline credit card's paywave issued by other banks as welll?
If answer yes, that means they really reject all NFC payments;
If answer no, that means something wrong with wise card.
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Nothing to do with merchant but it is from the bank side which mostly are not configured are to access universal card issued by VIsa or MC doh.gif

Even those mobile orange color can accept it with no issue so it is bank end doh.gif

QUOTE(TOS @ Jan 13 2022, 10:49 PM)
During the application process to obtain the card, there is no kyc process needed. My account has been verified in first place. Perhaps I did transactions before to my SG bank account.

If you just opened a new Wise account with them and have not done any transactions but straightaway apply for a card, then maybe kyc needed?

Not quite sure anyway.
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Ekyc is needed is because for the card to be issue under account holder name doh.gif

Without physical card no need for ekyc

Btw anyone received the card with Visa Platinum on it?
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QUOTE(xander83 @ Jan 14 2022, 02:16 AM)
Ekyc is needed is because for the card to be issue under account holder name  doh.gif

Without physical card no need for ekyc

Btw anyone received the card with Visa Platinum on it?
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Oh you have applied for the card too? The ekyc for your case is done during the application or after you have received the card?


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QUOTE(xander83 @ Jan 14 2022, 02:16 AM)
Is it grey color wired terminal?
If it is CIMB grey Color wired terminal which have a lot issues  doh.gif
Nothing to do with merchant but it is from the bank side which mostly are not configured are to access universal card issued by VIsa or MC  doh.gif

Even those mobile orange color can accept it with no issue so it is bank end  doh.gif
Ekyc is needed is because for the card to be issue under account holder name  doh.gif

Without physical card no need for ekyc

Btw anyone received the card with Visa Platinum on it?
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Yes, "Visa Platinum".

Does it carry additional benefits ? I doubt it for prepaid/debit card ..
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QUOTE(TOS @ Jan 14 2022, 08:56 AM)
Oh you have applied for the card too? The ekyc for your case is done during the application or after you have received the card?
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Of coz ekyc done during card application doh.gif otherwise how on earth to print your name on the card doh.gif

QUOTE(leo2010 @ Jan 14 2022, 11:57 AM)
Yes, "Visa Platinum".

Does it carry additional benefits ? I doubt it for prepaid/debit card ..
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Yes check the credit limit as it can store usd5000 on the card
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QUOTE(xander83 @ Jan 14 2022, 02:16 AM)
Is it grey color wired terminal?
If it is CIMB grey Color wired terminal which have a lot issues  doh.gif
Nothing to do with merchant but it is from the bank side which mostly are not configured are to access universal card issued by VIsa or MC  doh.gif

Even those mobile orange color can accept it with no issue so it is bank end  doh.gif
Ekyc is needed is because for the card to be issue under account holder name  doh.gif

Without physical card no need for ekyc

Btw anyone received the card with Visa Platinum on it?
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OCBC:
No, it’s a white slim profile card terminal

CIMB:
Yes, it’s the grey bulky terminal; dinosaur looking terminal

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QUOTE(xander83 @ Jan 14 2022, 03:43 PM)
Of coz ekyc done during card application  doh.gif otherwise how on earth to print your name on the card  doh.gif
Yes check the credit limit as it can store usd5000 on the card
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Oh ok. Just choosing how your name appear on card is "KYC". Fine.

Anyway, thecurious I have not encountered any step which require me to top up during the whole application process. I am not sure if there is a need to top up during the activation process, however. Looking at previous post, it seems like I need to spend with the card at least once, in which case a prior deposit is needed.

My first step in ordering the card is exactly the same as shown in Ziet's video (time: 7:06) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-2kIL1V5zs

The "verified your identity" part is done for my case (which I think is the "true KYC" part), the only thing left is address filling, choosing how name appears, courier method and potentially payment of 10 MYR in case the promotional period is gone.

Will update more here later when card arrives.

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Oh my Wise card has arrived.

It's earlier than the predicted 22nd Jan by about one week, sender's address seems to be from Singapore.

https://wise.com/help/articles/2978024/how-...te-my-wise-card

According to the official FAQ, there is no need to "activate", just use it as you need (i.e. pay with PIN to enable contactless payment), check balance with ATM to enable ATM functions. No charges of 10 MYR whatsoever.

I will keep the card in the drawer for now laugh.gif

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QUOTE(The1stHumanBeing @ Jan 14 2022, 05:02 PM)
OCBC:
No, it’s a white slim profile card terminal

CIMB:
Yes, it’s the grey bulky terminal; dinosaur looking terminal
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OCBC probably software problem hence not supported while CIMB should be hardware and software combo problem

QUOTE(TOS @ Jan 14 2022, 06:18 PM)
Oh ok. Just choosing how your name appear on card is "KYC". Fine.

Anyway, thecurious I have not encountered any step which require me to top up during the whole application process. I am not sure if there is a need to top up during the activation process, however. Looking at previous post, it seems like I need to spend with the card at least once, in which case a prior deposit is needed.

My first step in ordering the card is exactly the same as shown in Ziet's video (time: 7:06) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-2kIL1V5zs

The "verified your identity" part is done for my case (which I think is the "true KYC" part), the only thing left is address filling, choosing how name appears, courier method and potentially payment of 10 MYR in case the promotional period is gone.

Will update more here later when card arrives.
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KYC when you applying for the card will ask for ID documentation for it hence that’s the KYC for you doh.gif

This will only appear for those who are new to Wise prior to dec 2021 while those existing accounts doesn’t need this step doh.gif
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QUOTE(xander83 @ Jan 14 2022, 08:05 PM)
This will only appear for those who are new to Wise prior to dec 2021 while those existing accounts doesn’t need this step  doh.gif
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Then you should have said earlier...

Facepalming doesn't resolve the misunderstanding.
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QUOTE(TOS @ Jan 14 2022, 08:13 PM)
Then you should have said earlier...

Facepalming doesn't resolve the misunderstanding.
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Common sense tells you that why have some KYC process to onboard because of the account opening period
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QUOTE(TOS @ Jan 14 2022, 06:18 PM)
Oh ok. Just choosing how your name appear on card is "KYC". Fine.

Anyway, thecurious I have not encountered any step which require me to top up during the whole application process. I am not sure if there is a need to top up during the activation process, however. Looking at previous post, it seems like I need to spend with the card at least once, in which case a prior deposit is needed.

My first step in ordering the card is exactly the same as shown in Ziet's video (time: 7:06) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-2kIL1V5zs

The "verified your identity" part is done for my case (which I think is the "true KYC" part), the only thing left is address filling, choosing how name appears, courier method and potentially payment of 10 MYR in case the promotional period is gone.

Will update more here later when card arrives.
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Thanks for the update thumbsup.gif
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Having the card alone isn't exciting. THere is so much fees for withdrawals. What the real draw?
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QUOTE(Kadaj @ Jan 11 2022, 01:27 PM)
Thanks, updated.
Currently seems like only hong leong terminal working fine with paywave.

If anyone tried tesco, aeon and petrol stations pls let me know.
Quite curious which terminal they're using as well.
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Tested with Maybank terminals at McDonald’s so the issue seems with the banks side as it is the problem limited to CIMB and OCBC machines doh.gif

Did anyone try with PBB machine?
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QUOTE(SureshG @ Jan 15 2022, 08:10 AM)
Having the card alone isn't exciting. THere is so much fees for withdrawals. What the real draw?
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Cheaper exchange rate and faster transfer of FX doh.gif
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Having the card alone isn't exciting. THere is so much fees for withdrawals. What the real draw?
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Bruh, the point of the card is not to withdraw your foreign currency abroad; but to use it to pay for stuff with merchants who support Visa. You only need to withdraw if the merchant really stubborn af and only accepts cash. Tell me which is more convenient, having to manually calculate each note of foreign currency or just wave/swipe/PIN each transaction.
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QUOTE(xander83 @ Jan 15 2022, 08:14 AM)
Tested with Maybank terminals at McDonald’s so the issue seems with the banks side as it is the problem limited to CIMB and OCBC machines doh.gif

Did anyone try with PBB machine?
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Only HLB's terminal can process NFC and all others failed right?

Let me know what merchant use which terminal and I'll try to keep updating the list.
QUOTE(SureshG @ Jan 15 2022, 08:10 AM)
Having the card alone isn't exciting. THere is so much fees for withdrawals. What the real draw?
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I'll be happy if you can share with us alternative solutions.
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I tried to use at 99. Failed. Its using the orange colour terminal which accepts TnGo ewallet, etc..


QUOTE(xander83 @ Jan 11 2022, 04:19 AM)
711 and 99 speedmart working fine both using Hong Leong terminal with wave or pin
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Both wave n pin didn't work at Donki
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QUOTE(SureshG @ Jan 15 2022, 08:10 AM)
Having the card alone isn't exciting. THere is so much fees for withdrawals. What the real draw?
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if you top up with ringgit... & spend/withdraw in ringgit... this is really facepalm ah...

one or the other must be in foreign currency otherwise no point

for now we folks here just testing pin & wave...
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QUOTE(hedfi @ Jan 15 2022, 01:36 PM)
Both wave n pin didn't work at Donki
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Pin also declined? I'm first time knowing this.
I thought even paywave declined, Pin should be 100% accepted??
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QUOTE(Kadaj @ Jan 15 2022, 12:53 PM)
Only HLB's terminal can process NFC and all others failed right?

Let me know what merchant use which terminal and I'll try to keep updating the list.

I'll be happy if you can share with us alternative solutions.
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McDonald’s using Maybank no issue with wave or pin

QUOTE(Justmua @ Jan 15 2022, 12:58 PM)
I tried to use at 99. Failed. Its using the orange colour terminal which accepts TnGo ewallet, etc..
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Ask the cashier to reset the terminal as it prone to hibernate and lose connection doh.gif

QUOTE(hedfi @ Jan 15 2022, 01:36 PM)
Both wave n pin didn't work at Donki
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Is it using CIMB? If yes then it the bank side
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QUOTE(Kadaj @ Jan 15 2022, 05:02 PM)
Pin also declined? I'm first time knowing this.
I thought even paywave declined, Pin should be 100% accepted??
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Nothing to do with the machine it is bank side doh.gif
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Based on what i'm reading, certain local bank terminals are still not accepting the wise card, could it also happen abroad when foreign bank terminals are not accepted?
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QUOTE(silverwave @ Jan 15 2022, 11:13 PM)
Based on what i'm reading, certain local bank terminals are still not accepting the wise card, could it also happen abroad when foreign bank terminals are not accepted?
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Yes highly possible due to various factors in place

In general it will be around 80% successive rate
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Just wondering if wise account open in Malaysia, got Malaysian bank account details or not?

Been using wise for almost 4 years now, open the account back when I was in Dublin. In my wise, no bank account details for RM.

Another good benefit using wise is google pay. Just store the card in Google pay, then just NFC with your phone. Don't know whether wise card issue in Malaysia can use with google pay or not
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QUOTE(ahhazazi @ Jan 16 2022, 09:01 AM)
Just wondering if wise account open in Malaysia, got Malaysian bank account details or not?

Been using wise for almost 4 years now, open the account back when I was in Dublin. In my wise, no bank account details for RM.

Another good benefit using wise is google pay. Just store the card in Google pay, then just NFC with your phone. Don't know whether wise card issue in Malaysia can use with google pay or not
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Yes, if you change your region to Malaysia (on Wise’s settings not phone settings). Partner bank for MYR account is from JP Morgan Chase Bank.

Since Malaysia has no Apple or Google Pay it would not work unless it was originally registered in Malaysia (like mine).

According to some online, they only registered for Wise to get Apple Pay. They did this by registering in an Apple Pay supported country like Singapore. Then they just manually switched back or contacted CS to switch them back to Malaysia. According to them, the digital card details would still be in Apple Pay, as long as you didn’t delete it from your iCloud account. I assume Google Pay would work similarly.
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Yes, if you change your region to Malaysia (on Wise’s settings not phone settings). Partner bank for MYR account is from JP Morgan Chase Bank.

Since Malaysia has no Apple or Google Pay it would not work unless it was originally registered in Malaysia (like mine).

According to some online, they only registered for Wise to get Apple Pay. They did this by registering in an Apple Pay supported country like Singapore. Then they just manually switched back or contacted CS to switch them back to Malaysia. According to them, the digital card details would still be in Apple Pay, as long as you didn’t delete it from your iCloud account. I assume Google Pay would work similarly.
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Thank you for the information. So I guess there is no need for me to change country yet because currently had both google pay and garmin pay working perfectly.

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Thank you for the information. So I guess there is no need for me to change country yet because currently had both google pay and garmin pay working perfectly.

Thanks 👍
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Yeah, if you use your foreign bank account to top up Wise, keep it as it is. If you use a Malaysian bank account, better switch to Malaysia. If you switch regions, in theory as long as you keep the digital Wise card linked to your Google Pay account; It should be there but then again I’m only sure for Apple Pay. (From the experience on the APPLE PAY IN MALAYSIA forum and on YouTube)

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Tesco - cimb pos - pin ok, wave fail

BWY - ghl pos - pin ok, wave fail
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TLDR link here:
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Tried using Wise Card for Tealive in Publika, both wave transactions failed. The merchant used globalpayments (so ironic) powered by GHL
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Updated, thanks!

TLDR link here:
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Tried using Wise Card for Tealive in Publika, both wave transactions failed. The merchant used globalpayments (so ironic) powered by GHL
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Tried using Wise Card for Starbucks in Tropicana Gardens, wave transaction failed; had to resort to insert card. The merchant used Maybank terminal.

To note, whenever I use my Wise card at any Maybank terminal, they automatically reject wave transactions, I then would have the option of swipe or PIN. After swiping, they would also reject automatically. When you actually go to Insert card you have two options, either you type in your PIN or just press green(OK) on the PINpad to authorised the transaction. Pressing green(OK) would bypass PIN authorisation.

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increased fee, not worth to use in malaysia
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Unfortunately, processing costs for card payments have gone up over the past few months. We need to raise our fees to cover the new costs.
This will mean an increase of 0.09% when you transfer money and pay with a credit or debit card.
You’ll see these new fees starting 18/03/2022.
We know that this isn’t great news, and we’re sorry about that. Our mission is to charge our customers as little as possible and we’ll bring our fees back down as soon as we can.
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Unfortunately, processing costs for card payments have gone up over the past few months. We need to raise our fees to cover the new costs.
This will mean an increase of 0.09% when you transfer money and pay with a credit or debit card.
You’ll see these new fees starting 18/03/2022.
We know that this isn’t great news, and we’re sorry about that. Our mission is to charge our customers as little as possible and we’ll bring our fees back down as soon as we can.
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I tried to find an article or circulation for this but I cannot find it, is this even true?
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I tried to find an article or circulation for this but I cannot find it, is this even true?
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Tried using Wise Card for Starbucks in Tropicana Gardens, wave transaction failed; had to resort to insert card. The merchant used Maybank terminal.

To note, whenever I use my Wise card at any Maybank terminal, they automatically reject wave transactions, I then would have the option of swipe or PIN. After swiping, they would also reject automatically. When you actually go to Insert card you have two options, either you type in your PIN or just press green(OK) on the PINpad to authorised the transaction. Pressing green(OK) would bypass PIN authorisation.
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it is just as i pasted. no further details. you should get the email soon too or in ur junk mail.
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Unfortunately, processing costs for card payments have gone up over the past few months. We need to raise our fees to cover the new costs.
This will mean an increase of 0.09% when you transfer money and pay with a credit or debit card.
You’ll see these new fees starting 18/03/2022.
We know that this isn’t great news, and we’re sorry about that. Our mission is to charge our customers as little as possible and we’ll bring our fees back down as soon as we can.
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thanks for the heads up
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Thank you for the information. So I guess there is no need for me to change country yet because currently had both google pay and garmin pay working perfectly.

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How do you activate Garmin Pay with Wise card? I kept on getting error, your bank is not yet supported.
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Unfortunately, processing costs for card payments have gone up over the past few months. We need to raise our fees to cover the new costs.
This will mean an increase of 0.09% when you transfer money and pay with a credit or debit card.
You’ll see these new fees starting 18/03/2022.
We know that this isn’t great news, and we’re sorry about that. Our mission is to charge our customers as little as possible and we’ll bring our fees back down as soon as we can.
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Firstly, how do we do debit/credit card reloads for Wise. Secondly, will this effect people who do online banking (FPX) transfer?

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How do you activate Garmin Pay with Wise card? I kept on getting error, your bank is not yet supported.
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Bro, Garmin Pay is yet to be even supported in Malaysia.
Here is the list:
https://www.garmin.com/en-US/garminpay/banks/
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Updated, thanks!

TLDR link here:
Wise visa paywave
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Tried using Wise Card for FamilyMart in IPC, Mutiara Damansara; wave transactions successful. The merchant used Maybank terminal (grey & bulky with JCB support).
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Tried using Wise Card for FamilyMart in IPC, Mutiara Damansara; wave transactions successful. The merchant used Maybank terminal (grey & bulky with JCB support).
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Same terminal as McDonald’s hence it should be successful most of the time rclxms.gif
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Same terminal as McDonald’s hence it should be successful most of the time  rclxms.gif
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I use my Wise card at McDonald’s 1U and Starbucks (both Maybank terminals) those terminals are black and have a slim profile. Always reject wave & swipe transaction. But for insert payments, I have a choice of typing in my PIN or bypass PIN authentication by pressing green(OK)

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I got my virtual card info Wise card just apply
Try to reload on touch n go says invalid card no. just key in
Boost successful login in to revpay portal and verify by Wise app authorization but fail to storing registering the card info

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QUOTE(The1stHumanBeing @ Jan 19 2022, 06:25 PM)
I use my Wise card at McDonald’s 1U and Starbucks (both Maybank terminals) those terminals are black and have a slim profile. Always reject wave & swipe transaction. But for insert payments, I have a choice of typing in my PIN or bypass PIN authentication by pressing green(OK)
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Wise paywave might works with HLB & MBB terminals so far but not guarantee. biggrin.gif
I don't know why some worked and some didn't.
QUOTE(wkkm007 @ Jan 19 2022, 06:58 PM)
I got my virtual card info Wise card just apply
Try to reload on touch n go says invalid card no. just key in
Boost successful login in to revpay portal and verify by Wise app authorization but fail to storing registering the card info
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Be careful.
I tried to reload boost with the virtual cards and then boost banned my account from using any card.

You can try reload with the physical card once, if it failed, don't try it anymore.
Otherwise your account might be banned without any warning just like me. doh.gif
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QUOTE(Kadaj @ Jan 19 2022, 06:49 PM)
Wise paywave might works with HLB & MBB terminals so far but not guarantee. biggrin.gif
I don't know why some worked and some didn't.

Be careful.
I tried to reload boost with the virtual cards and then boost banned my account from using any card.

You can try reload with the physical card once, if it failed, don't try it anymore.
Otherwise your account might be banned without any warning just like me.  doh.gif
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Is the physical card in same as virtual the 1st card
So boost forfeited your balance?
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QUOTE(Kadaj @ Jan 19 2022, 08:49 PM)
Wise paywave might works with HLB & MBB terminals so far but not guarantee. biggrin.gif
I don't know why some worked and some didn't.

Be careful.
I tried to reload boost with the virtual cards and then boost banned my account from using any card.

You can try reload with the physical card once, if it failed, don't try it anymore.
Otherwise your account might be banned without any warning just like me.  doh.gif
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Ban for how long?
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QUOTE(Kadaj @ Jan 19 2022, 08:49 PM)
I don't know why some worked and some didn't.

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installed a few credit card nfc reader... and try on a few cards of mine for comparison...

one reader got msg says the wise card nfc payment not activated despite wise app already so...

I've frozen & thaw... deactivate and reactive... see can make it work but no...

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QUOTE(The1stHumanBeing @ Jan 19 2022, 06:25 PM)
I use my Wise card at McDonald’s 1U and Starbucks (both Maybank terminals) those terminals are black and have a slim profile. Always reject wave & swipe transaction. But for insert payments, I have a choice of typing in my PIN or bypass PIN authentication by pressing green(OK)
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Those slim or black ones are the older terminal which are super problematic

Try with those grey ones by Maybank which have no issue so far with wave or pin

So far those are 100% hit rate for me rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(wkkm007 @ Jan 19 2022, 06:58 PM)
I got my virtual card info Wise card just apply
Try to reload on touch n go says invalid card no. just key in
Boost successful login in to revpay portal and verify by Wise app authorization but fail to storing registering the card info
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Yeah, I also tried adding my virtual Wise card into Shopee just for fun. Said it was an invalid card, so not all sites support the virtual card.
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Mr diy - pbb pos - pin ok, wave fail


so far... 100% fail using wave

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Updated, thanks!

TLDR link here:
Wise visa paywave
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Tried using Wise Card for llaollao in 1U; both wave transactions failed. The merchant used CIMB partnered CARDPAY by GHL terminal (grey & bulky).

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Every transaction with Wise card in MYR with loaded MYR credit in Wise account, is there any additional transaction admin fee/ surcharge?
Thank you
The ATM withdrawal RM1000 is the same with other countries USD250
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Every transaction with Wise card in MYR with loaded MYR credit in Wise account, is there any additional transaction admin fee/ surcharge?
Thank you
The ATM withdrawal RM1000 is the same with other countries USD250
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No admin fee/surcharge as you are basically paying 1:1. Paying Wise MYR to reload your MYR balance. I haven’t tried the withdrawal feature as I intend to use the card for the purchase anyway; unless the merchant is very stubborn and only accepts cash.
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Been using this card for a few weeks. Still many terminal can't accept Wise on Paywave, need to insert pin. No such problem with other local cards.

Quite a hassle. Hmmm, better just use Malaysian issued debit/credit/prepaid card.
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Is there a way to transfer the USD in my wife's Wise account to my Wise USD account? Message appeared that 'you are residing in Malaysia, either the source or your target currency must be in MYR'
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Is there a way to transfer the USD in my wife's Wise account to my Wise USD account? Message appeared that 'you are residing in Malaysia, either the source or your target currency must be in MYR'
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You should be able to transfer from one Wise USD account to another Wise USD account as you have the ACH routing number and account number. Unless you are transferring more than RM20k (includes all transfers to your account and all currency current balances) which they would automatically reject.


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You should be able to transfer from one Wise USD account to another Wise USD account as you have the ACH routing number and account number. Unless you are transferring more than RM20k (includes all transfers to your account and all currency current balances) which they would automatically reject.
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Transfer money locally
From 28 October 2021, there will also be some limitations if you’re sending money to a bank account in Malaysia. You’ll only be allowed to make transfers that involve MYR. This means that:

If you are sending MYR from your account, you can send any currency to your recipient.
If you are sending a currency that is not MYR from your account, you can only send MYR to your recipient.
This change won’t affect international transfers. If you are transferring to a recipient account that is not in Malaysia, you can send from or to any currency — there are no limitations.

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Email notification from Wise previously.

Could this be the reason ?


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Transfer money locally
From 28 October 2021, there will also be some limitations if you’re sending money to a bank account in Malaysia. You’ll only be allowed to make transfers that involve MYR. This means that:

If you are sending MYR from your account, you can send any currency to your recipient.
If you are sending a currency that is not MYR from your account, you can only send MYR to your recipient.
This change won’t affect international transfers. If you are transferring to a recipient account that is not in Malaysia, you can send from or to any currency — there are no limitations.

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Email notification from Wise previously.

Could this be the reason ?
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That explains, now gotta send to MYR account then. Thanks
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QUOTE(TOS @ Jan 13 2022, 09:16 PM)
I applied without topping up anything in Wise. Will let you know here when my card arrives.
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Mine arrived today
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Anyone got transfer to wrong bank before? Did u manage to get back the money?

I was suppose to transfer to my SG CIMB but instead transferred to MY CIMB. It is my first time doing this transfer. I inserted my own name and SG CIMB bank account number. Funds still went through as Wise do not do any account number checking on their end.

Really frustrated now as wise don’t work on Saturday and Sunday. Haih all due to my stupidity didn’t check properly did the transfer too fast now regret. Should have checked YouTube properly on how to transfer from Local bank to Wise, then to SG CIMB before assuming.😢

Their multi currency feature confused me I went to put money in SGD wallet then thought money going out there will be to Singapore. Name of bank is CIMB Bernard but I still didn’t catch that mistake zzz.

Already called CIMB and logged ticket to Wise.
CIMB say bank should auto reject for this.. but I’m not sure now as they also told me there are CIMB bank loan accounts starting with number 1 (Singapore account number starts with 1). I wanted to ask them check if this account number exists in CIMB Malaysia but they tell me cannot.. due to customer privacy. F**k.🤬 now can only depend on Wise to help as I had attached transfer receipt.. And really hope CIMB MY there reject the transfer and bounce back to Wise.

Don’t be like me guys. Always double or triple check especially if first time transferring.😭

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how long u been waiting?
My one stated should arriving today but until now still not yet receive.
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how long u been waiting?
My one stated should arriving today but until now still not yet receive.
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Around 3 weeks or so

Problem is they dont give tracking number so it’s a risk, which is why i dont top up the card first until i received it
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how long u been waiting?
My one stated should arriving today but until now still not yet receive.
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Probably depend on area. Got mine less than 2 weeks.

QUOTE(nate_nightroad @ Jan 22 2022, 02:03 PM)
Around 3 weeks or so

Problem is they dont give tracking number so it’s a risk, which is why i dont top up the card first until i received it
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By the way, our Transfer account with USD denomination can receive money directly from USD bank account? Without charges?
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ach free... wire 7.5

for ach must be same account owner

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ach free... wire 7.5

for ach must be same account owner
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sorry , what is ach?

You means for Wise, if ppl in US transfer from their US bank account to my Wise in USD denomination will be kena charge 7.5 MYR or USD?
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sorry , what is ach?

You means for Wise, if ppl in US transfer from their US bank account to my Wise in USD denomination will be kena charge 7.5 MYR or USD?
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automated cleaning house

usd
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Cost of complying with local regulations.
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usd
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If it is not same account owner then how much will charge?
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Today I add Wise Visa card to Grab and it is working

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Cost of complying with local regulations.
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no. just us banking system

QUOTE(MasBoleh! @ Jan 23 2022, 10:55 AM)
If it is not same account owner then how much will charge?
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inward fee usd 7.5
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Updated, thanks!

TLDR link here:
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QUOTE(wkkm007 @ Jan 19 2022, 09:56 PM)
Is the physical card in same as virtual the 1st card
So boost forfeited your balance?
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I think it's still different.

Only banned me topup by using any credit/debit card. I only can topup by online bank now.
QUOTE(thecurious @ Jan 19 2022, 10:02 PM)
Ban for how long?
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They won't tell.
I just use other ewallets now.
QUOTE(The1stHumanBeing @ Jan 20 2022, 07:11 AM)
Yeah, I also tried adding my virtual Wise card into Shopee just for fun. Said it was an invalid card, so not all sites support the virtual card.
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I think all ewallets in msia banned both wise and bigpay virtual card.
I tried wise virtual card to pay zcity app and it's success, which is not ewallet.
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anyone fund / deposit TD ameritrade singapore using Wise ?
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QUOTE(Ramjade @ May 1 2020, 12:23 PM)
Wait for official email. I did not received any email yet. Use alternative like instarem/bigpay to transfer money.
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big pay better than paypal ?

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big pay better than paypal ?
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Always. But you cannot get paid using bigpay in USD. You can get paid in USD for PayPal.

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QUOTE(Kadaj @ Jan 23 2022, 08:37 PM)
Only banned me topup by using any credit/debit card. I only can topup by online bank now.
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The 1st Wise card
I've tried boost, TNG ewallet, Shopee pay all fail
So far only Grab pay successful add and make payment
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Mine arrived today
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Did you pay for express shipping or the free shipping?
If it is free shipping which courier service are they using?

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QUOTE(CharmaineLee80 @ Jan 24 2022, 11:58 AM)
anyone fund / deposit TD ameritrade singapore using Wise ?
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For me, not with Ameritrade Singapore but for Interactive Brokers US. Works like a charm for ACH transfers.

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QUOTE(wkkm007 @ Jan 24 2022, 03:39 PM)
Did you pay for express shipping or the free shipping?
If it is free shipping which courier service are they using?
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free is normal pos in white envelope... no tracking
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BigPay is still behind in terms of international payments, you cannot hold foreign currency and don’t even have banking account details if you want people to transfer money to you. I suggest you get Wise if you do a lot of travelling and international transfers.
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QUOTE(dwRK @ Jan 24 2022, 05:18 PM)
free is normal pos in white envelope... no tracking
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I used DHL express, quick af. Ordered on the 24th Dec and expected arrival of 29th (received on the 28th). Though they only mailed my card on the 27th. But of course, have to pay lah.
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QUOTE(The1stHumanBeing @ Jan 24 2022, 05:21 PM)
I used DHL express, quick af. Ordered on the 24th Dec and expected arrival of 29th (received on the 28th). Though they only mailed my card on the 27th. But of course, have to pay lah.
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yeah... I pick normal because don't need it... lol

get for testing... but so far spent RM 500 using it liao... hahaha

loaded with foreign currencies too. .. gonna test online orders soon...
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Did you pay for express shipping or the free shipping?
If it is free shipping which courier service are they using?
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I dont think there is choice for shipping. No tracking number so I assume is the normal one. Maybe sent by pos malaysia
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Anyone has problem with the wise card contactless transaction? I went to kk mart today and the transaction got declined and i had to use pin
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QUOTE(dwRK @ Jan 24 2022, 06:23 PM)
yeah... I pick normal because don't need it... lol

get for testing... but so far spent RM 500 using it liao... hahaha

loaded with foreign currencies too. .. gonna test online orders soon...
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Yeah at this point, I spent a lot of money using Wise

Like buying goods in USD, funding my IBKR account and most recently testing the Wise card for contactless payments.

I plan to use this card when I travel to Singapore.
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Anyone tried receiving money from Sg bank account with the Wise SGD bank details?

Thanks for sharing.

QUOTE(The1stHumanBeing @ Jan 24 2022, 10:55 PM)
Yeah at this point, I spent a lot of money using Wise

Like buying goods in USD, funding my IBKR account and most recently testing the Wise card for contactless payments.

I plan to use this card when I travel to Singapore.
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Anyone tried receiving money from Sg bank account with the Wise SGD bank details?

Thanks for sharing.
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Not yet, I have a Singaporean friend that could try; it should work like normal. I actually tried doing bank transfer from my Malaysian bank account to my Wise MYR Balance. It worked, just make sure you put JP Morgan Chase Bank Berhad (Wise’s partner bank) and account number; you should receive it within a day. I assume it would be similar in Singapore.

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can foreigner use personal wise to send fund to Malaysia business bank account which is under business / company name?
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Would appreciate if you can share if you have actual experience with SG bank ya...

Thanks.

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Not yet, I have a Singaporean friend that could try; it should work like normal. I actually tried doing bank transfer from my Malaysian bank account to my Wise MYR Balance. It worked, just make sure you put JP Morgan Chase Bank Berhad (Wise’s partner bank) and account number; you should receive it within a day. I assume it would be similar in Singapore.
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QUOTE(The1stHumanBeing @ Jan 25 2022, 01:56 PM)
Not yet, I have a Singaporean friend that could try; it should work like normal. I actually tried doing bank transfer from my Malaysian bank account to my Wise MYR Balance. It worked, just make sure you put JP Morgan Chase Bank Berhad (Wise’s partner bank) and account number; you should receive it within a day. I assume it would be similar in Singapore.
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Then such wise MYR can be withdrawn to your own bank?
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Yes lol, you can use your personal Wise account to transfer money to your own account, family/friends & businesses. However, you can’t hold more than RM20k (includes all currency holdings) unless you have a SSM certificate.

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QUOTE(jack2 @ Jan 25 2022, 07:04 PM)
Then such wise MYR can be withdrawn to your own bank?
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Yes, there are two ways, you can send SGD thru Wise and directly transfer it back to your MYR bank account (based on their forex rate and fees). Or send SGD to your Wise SGD balance; convert your SGD to your MYR balance (based on their forex rate and fees), then finally transfer back to your MYR bank account (Which has a small fee, I tried it before).
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Yes lol, you can use your personal Wise account to transfer money to your own account, family/friends & businesses. However, you can’t hold more than RM20k (includes all currency holdings) unless you have a SSM certificate.
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So weird if using wise to transfer into own MYR account
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First time trying CHF transfer from SGD bank account via Wise currency balance to IBKR. Not sure if they will question anything.

There is a deduction of 0.5 CHF for the transfer though.

Keeping my fingers crossed.
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Confirmed CHF entered account. Just a little more than one hour!

Standby for Roche and Nestle. smile.gif

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Wise business account needs to pay RM113?
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So weird if using wise to transfer into own MYR account
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How is it weird, what if I work abroad and earn foreign currency. Need to convert right?

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First time trying CHF transfer from SGD bank account via Wise currency balance to IBKR. Not sure if they will question anything.

There is a deduction of 0.5 CHF for the transfer though.

Keeping my fingers crossed.
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Yeah I use Wise to fund my IBKR US account. Usually the fee would be ~$0.5 to convert and free to transfer to my trading account via ACH.
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Confirmed CHF entered account. Just a little more than one hour!

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Yeah, it’s surprisingly fast. Mostly takes less than 1 business day to fund my IBKR account smile.gif

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Yeah I use Wise to fund my IBKR US account. Usually the fee would be ~$0.5 to convert and free to transfer to my trading account via ACH.
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USD is ok because the Wise account is under your name. CHF is a whole different story. The Wise account for CHF is not under our name, but that of Wise.

A simple tutorial for those who want to fund IBKR with CHF via Wise multicurrency account:

1. Set up deposit notice in IBKR via Bank Wire (for bank name, just type "Wise" without quotation marks " ", then they will give you the Credit Suisse account IBAN number and SWIFT code)

2. Open CHF account balance in Wise, then transfer money to fund CHF account in Wise (usually convert from other currencies like MYR, SGD, USD etc.)

(Step 1 and 2 can be reversed, done in either order is fine since they are independent of one another.)

3. Now transfer the money from your CHF currency balance to Wise, just send the money from your currency balance like you did with USD/SGD etc.

Points to note: You don't need to fill up the email address column, just enter the recipient name Interactive Brokers LLC and the IBAN number (Wise will automatically verify it's a Credit Suisse account after you fully enter the account number), complete the transfer process by verifying with a TAC SMS, then just wait for one hour to one hour and 15 minutes for the transaction to go through. A fee of 0.5 CHF will be deducted from the currency balance. So if you fund your currency balance with 900 CHF, you can only send out a maximum of 899.5 CHF.

4. 1-1.25 hours later the CHF money should reflect in your IBKR currency balance.

Note that you should not have more than 50k CHF in your IBKR account, otherwise you will be charged negative interest rates, which means money will be deducted from your Swiss account (you are paying the broker "free" money). Swiss benchmark rates are around -0.75% https://www.interactivebrokers.com/en/accou...erest-rates.php

Another point to note is as the transfer is in the name of Wise (unlike USD ACH transfer under your name), you should be prepared for potential AMLA actions from the broker in the future, should one arise.

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QUOTE(TOS @ Jan 25 2022, 10:17 PM)
USD is ok because the Wise account is under your name. CHF is a whole different story. The Wise account for CHF is not under our name, but that of Wise.

A simple tutorial for those who want to fund IBKR with CHF via Wise multicurrency account:

1. Set up deposit notice in IBKR via Bank Wire (for bank name, just type "Wise" without quotation marks " ", then they will give you the Credit Suisse account IBAN number and SWIFT code)

2. Open CHF account balance in Wise, then transfer money to fund CHF account in Wise (usually convert from other currencies like MYR, SGD, USD etc.)

(Step 1 and 2 can be reversed, done in either order is fine since they are independent of one another.)

3. Now transfer the money from your CHF currency balance to Wise, just send the money from your currency balance like you did with USD/SGD etc.

Points to note: You don't need to fill up the email address column, just enter the recipient name Interactive Brokers LLC and the IBAN number (Wise will automatically verify it's a Credit Suisse account after you fully enter the account number), complete the transfer process by verifying with a TAC SMS, then just wait for one hour to one hour and 15 minutes for the transaction to go through. A fee of 0.5 CHF will be deducted from the currency balance. So if you fund your currency balance with 900 CHF, you can only send out a maximum of 899.5 CHF.

4. 1-1.25 hours later the CHF money should reflect in your IBKR currency balance.

Note that you should not have more than 50k CHF in your IBKR account, otherwise you will be charged negative interest rates, which means money will be deducted from your Swiss account (you are paying the broker "free" money). Swiss benchmark rates are around -0.75% https://www.interactivebrokers.com/en/accou...erest-rates.php

Another point to note is as the transfer is in the name of Wise (unlike USD ACH transfer under your name), you should be prepared for potential AMLA actions from the broker in the future, should one arise.
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Appreciate the deals, you are right for the Swiss balance; there are no account details. Meaning, your funds are under Wise’s name and not your name. That’s why I ultimately picked IBKR with a USD balance as I mainly focus on the US stock market and Wise has USD bank details.

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WISE business account needs to be verified like sending SSM documents?

How to pay the setup fee of RM113 if there is no MYR money in the account?
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WISE business account needs to be verified like sending SSM documents?

How to pay the setup fee of RM113 if there is no MYR money in the account?
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At first you don't need to verify your SSM documents immediately, however they would ask the nature of your business in the future. Best you give them as much details upfront to prevent any inconveniences in the future.

As I don't have a business account, I'm not very sure; but like the personal account you need to deposit RM101 before being able to use the Wise Card. I assume you would also have to do the same with your Wise Business account. You can either transfer MYR from your Wise Personal account to your new business account or just top-up your Wise Business account via FPX.
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QUOTE(The1stHumanBeing @ Jan 26 2022, 04:02 PM)
At first you don't need to verify your SSM documents immediately, however they would ask the nature of your business in the future. Best you give them as much details upfront to prevent any inconveniences in the future.

As I don't have a business account, I'm not very sure; but like the personal account you need to deposit RM101 before being able to use the Wise Card. I assume you would also have to do the same with your Wise Business account. You can either transfer MYR from your Wise Personal account to your new business account or just top-up your Wise Business account via FPX.
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Cannot top up one as it says MYR is not able to be added.
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QUOTE(Davidtcf @ Jan 22 2022, 11:41 AM)
Anyone got transfer to wrong bank before? Did u manage to get back the money?

I was suppose to transfer to my SG CIMB but instead transferred to MY CIMB. It is my first time doing this transfer. I inserted my own name and SG CIMB bank account number. Funds still went through as Wise do not do any account number checking on their end.

Really frustrated now as wise don’t work on Saturday and Sunday. Haih all due to my stupidity didn’t check properly did the transfer too fast now regret. Should have checked YouTube properly on how to transfer from Local bank to Wise, then to SG CIMB before assuming.😢

Their multi currency feature confused me I went to put money in SGD wallet then thought money going out there will be to Singapore. Name of bank is CIMB Bernard but I still didn’t catch that mistake zzz.

Already called CIMB and logged ticket to Wise.
CIMB say bank should auto reject for this.. but I’m not sure now as they also told me there are CIMB bank loan accounts starting with number 1 (Singapore account number starts with 1). I wanted to ask them check if this account number exists in CIMB Malaysia but they tell me cannot.. due to customer privacy. F**k.🤬 now can only depend on Wise to help as I had attached transfer receipt.. And really hope CIMB MY there reject the transfer and bounce back to Wise.

Don’t be like me guys. Always double or triple check especially if first time transferring.😭
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Until now I had not gotten my refund on this wrong transfer. It was around SGD 2700.
Wrote and called both parties CIMB Bank Malaysia and Wise.

When I contact both parties, both also refuse to help me solve the problem! Wise is saying I have to contact bank myself, that it is against their security protocol to contact bank, but why? What security is involved here? Help customer to followup asking bank to return back a wrong transfer also got problem?

While CIMB bank called me and say Wise has to contact them to ask for the transfer to return back to Wise's account. In the written email the CIMB person explained that Wise might have an intermediary local clearing house hence why they need to contact CIMB for the refund. But another CIMB agent I called say CIMB will auto send back the money to Wise. They can't confirm when I will get back the money. Sounds simple but until now I don't see the money in my Wise yet. Basically 2 answers for a question and I don't know which is right.

End up I am the person getting burnt due to a mistake.
Already wrote email to Securities Commision for help today. Hope will get a reply.
Next might need to write email to Bank Negara if still getting ignored.

Anyone else got any other suggestions please let me know.

Transferwise is good.. but if you fcked up on your transfer to wrong bank/party etc... you are ALONE in this if bank did not send back to you the money.
Always triple check if need to before hitting that "send money" button. Especially if you first time doing the transfer. Better safe than sorry.

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Until now I had not gotten my refund on this wrong transfer. It was around SGD 2700.
Wrote and called both parties CIMB Bank Malaysia and Wise.

When I contact both parties, both also refuse to help me solve the problem! Wise is saying I have to contact bank myself, that it is against their security protocol to contact bank, but why? What security is involved here? Help customer to followup asking bank to return back a wrong transfer also got problem?

While CIMB bank called me and say Wise has to contact them to ask for the transfer to return back to Wise's account. In the written email the CIMB person explained that Wise might have an intermediary local clearing house hence why they need to contact CIMB for the refund. But another CIMB agent I called say CIMB will auto send back the money to Wise. They can't confirm when I will get back the money. Sounds simple but until now I don't see the money in my Wise yet. Basically 2 answers for a question and I don't know which is right.

End up I am the person getting burnt due to a mistake.
Already wrote email to Securities Commision for help today. Hope will get a reply.
Next might need to write email to Bank Negara if still getting ignored.

Anyone else got any other suggestions please let me know.

Transferwise is good.. but if you fcked up on your transfer to wrong bank/party etc... you are ALONE in this if bank did not send back to you the money.
Always triple check if need to before hitting that "send money" button. Especially if you first time doing the transfer. Better safe than sorry.
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If it helps, I'd say you don't need to worry about it.

There is a reason they ask for recipient's full name when transferring, in case the account number doesn't match, the transaction will be bounced back eventually. (The chances of you sending your money to someone with the wrong account number that is valid, at the right bank, with the same exact name as you is astronomically low if not impossible)

I suspect that it's simply out of Wise control, they don't actually get receive confirmation from recipient's bank according to their ambiguous wording. So once the money leave their system, can they only act upon it if the money goes back to them.

QUOTE(Wise)
Our conversion process is fast — and sometimes it’s too late to cancel. Once it’s marked as complete, the money is out of Wise’s system and into the banking system. So if you don’t see the option to cancel:

    Get in touch with the person you’re paying

    Tell them how you got their bank details wrong

    Ask them to contact their bank and find out whether the money can still be delivered, or whether their bank will send it back to Wise

Tip: If the bank sends your money back to us, we’ll get in touch with you via email. You can then choose to set up your transfer with the correct bank details, or cancel your transfer and get a refund.


The recipient bank should have received the money regardless, so this is on CIMB, no choice but to escalate on their side.

I doubt that SC or BNM would be helpful, especially this is likely 99% not SC's scope.

And yeah, as you've said, always triple check sending information, never too careful. I usually do a test transaction for the first transaction on any platform then repeat that transaction in large amount to be safe.

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QUOTE(Hoshiyuu @ Jan 26 2022, 05:16 PM)
If it helps, I'd say you don't need to worry about it.

There is a reason they ask for recipient's full name when transferring, in case the account number doesn't match, the transaction will be bounced back eventually. (The chances of you sending your money to someone with the wrong account number that is valid, at the right bank, with the same exact name as you is astronomically low if not impossible)

I suspect that it's simply out of Wise control, they don't actually get receive confirmation from recipient's bank according to their ambiguous wording. So once the money leave their system, can they only act upon it if the money goes back to them.

QUOTE(Wise)
Our conversion process is fast — and sometimes it’s too late to cancel. Once it’s marked as complete, the money is out of Wise’s system and into the banking system. So if you don’t see the option to cancel:

    Get in touch with the person you’re paying

    Tell them how you got their bank details wrong

    Ask them to contact their bank and find out whether the money can still be delivered, or whether their bank will send it back to Wise

Tip: If the bank sends your money back to us, we’ll get in touch with you via email. You can then choose to set up your transfer with the correct bank details, or cancel your transfer and get a refund.


The recipient bank should have received the money regardless, so this is on CIMB, no choice but to escalate on their side.

I doubt that SC or BNM would be helpful, especially this is likely 99% not SC's scope.

And yeah, as you've said, always triple check sending information, never too careful. I usually do a test transaction for the first transaction on any platform then repeat that transaction in large amount to be safe.
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To reply your statements that I had bolded:
1. Not true, read this. Doesn't matter if referral name is wrong, as long account number is valid the money will be credited to the user:
https://www.quora.com/Does-the-account-name...nsferring-money
Other sources also mentioned same thing.
But for my case account number (starting with "1", local CIMB numbers start with "7") not found on CIMB Malaysia, also can have issue.

2. Already contacted CIMB around 5 times total. Seems like their side no one bother to really help. At least can help me email to their team in charge of incoming transfers... but CIMB keep say can't help further. Either is I wait or ask Wise to contact CIMB.. which Wise is refusing to.

And yes agree that better to transfer a tiny amount the first time. Once successfully go through only send the bulk of the money. Don't try to save on this is not worth if your whole bunch of money get missing.

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To reply your statements that I had bolded:
1. Not true, read this. Doesn't matter if referral name is wrong, as long account number is valid the money will be credited to the user:
https://www.quora.com/Does-the-account-name...nsferring-money
Other sources also mentioned same thing.
But for my case account number (starting with "1", local CIMB numbers start with "7") not found on CIMB Malaysia, also can have issue.

2. Already contacted CIMB around 5 times total. Seems like their side no one bother to really help. At least can help me email to their team in charge of incoming transfers... but CIMB keep say can't help further. Either is I wait or ask Wise to contact CIMB.. which Wise is refusing to.

And yes agree that better to transfer a tiny amount the first time. Once successfully go through only send the bulk of the money. Don't try to save on this is not worth if your whole bunch of money get missing.
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Hmm. Good info on [1]. I guess my banker gave me misinformation on that then. Can't trust people who have no stake in your money as always. My Unifi bills still has the wrong name to this day after 2 years and 5 physical visits to TMpoint.

I can't say if I am correct or wrong on this, but this is my suggestion and what I would personally do.

You can try to call CIMB again, ask them to start a case/ticket for you, telling them that you would like to escalate this issue to BNM, and would like CIMB's help in providing a case/ticket reference number as proof that you have attempted to resolve this with CIMB's complaint resolution unit. Be polite, be helpful.

Secondly, ask Wise if they can provide any proof that the money is not with them, as you would like to submit a formal complaint against the recipient bank to your local financial institution regulator for their non-response to your plight. I think they will be happy to have you off their back on a problem that is not theirs.

From there, escalate normally via BNM Telelink with all the info you can provide, Wise's response, CIMB response et cetera. I highly doubt Wise still have your money, and they will email you first hand if the money has already bounced back to them. It's likely stuck in a intermediary or CIMB, the former will resolve itself over time, the latter I'm not so sure now.

The world spent a lot of effort to regulate money so they can't disappear, because there is too much people trying to make money disappear, don't worry, I am sure you can get your money back somehow, when all the involved party are big, established, regulated institution.

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Thanks @Hoshiyuu, will do what you said. Looks like gonna do another round of call with CIMB tonight.

Hope BNM side can help. I have gathered all the emails and documentation already will attach them altogether. Later tonight will share my emails with CIMB and Wise here (minus my personal info).. U guys see also will laugh at how some of their responses are, and that "don't care" attitude.

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Thanks @Hoshiyuu, will do what you said. Looks like gonna do another round of call with CIMB tonight.

Hope BNM side can help. I have gathered all the emails and documentation already will attach them altogether. Later tonight will share my emails with CIMB and Wise here (minus my personal info).. U guys see also will laugh at how some of their responses are, and that "don't care" attitude.
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the screenshots between my emails/chat with CIMB Malaysia and Wise:

CIMB asking me to contact CIMB SG? Huh? Money go into CIMB Malaysia why asking me to contact CIMB SG?
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Same thing here Wise asking me to contact CIMB SG for no reason:
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CIMB guy called me after I posted on their CIMB Malaysia FB page. He say Wise has to contact them to retrieve the wrong transfer. Correct process is the sender of the money have to contact the bank:
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Wise Die2 refuse to contact bank. Push back responsibilities to me to follow-up with bank. Keep say it's against their rules due to security reasons without elaborating:
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Tried to send email to BNM, only way is via their web form. Problem is it is not working when trying to send (after fill up so hard doh.gif ):
https://telelink.bnm.gov.my/

I then found a contact there which is OFS, went to their website and see notice they might be able to help smile.gif :
https://www.ofs.org.my/en/company_overview
At least OFS got email address. Transferwise seems to not be under their supported list but CIMB is. Waiting for their reply now.

Just now when I called CIMB asking for ticket number.. the dude who picked up sounded a bit nervous when I mentioned BNM. He took it seriously and say will help me assign the ticket to the internal transfer team / accounts team for checking. After that gave me all the ticket numbers that I asked for. He say will help only la.. dunno will really help or not. I told him to call me or email me back anytime.

Haih really seem like getting back my money is becoming more and more unlikely each passing day. sad.gif bangwall.gif

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QUOTE(Davidtcf @ Jan 26 2022, 11:50 PM)
the screenshots between my emails/chat with CIMB Malaysia and Wise:

CIMB asking me to contact CIMB SG? Huh? Money go into CIMB Malaysia why asking me to contact CIMB SG?
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Same thing here Wise asking me to contact CIMB SG for no reason:
user posted image

CIMB guy called me after I posted on their CIMB Malaysia FB page. He say Wise has to contact them to retrieve the wrong transfer. Correct process is the sender of the money have to contact the bank:
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Wise Die2 refuse to contact bank. Push back responsibilities to me to follow-up with bank. Keep say it's against their rules due to security reasons without elaborating:
user posted image

Tried to send email to BNM, only way is via their web form. Problem is it is not working when trying to send (after fill up so hard  doh.gif ):
https://telelink.bnm.gov.my/

I then found a contact there which is OFS, went to their website and see notice they might be able to help  smile.gif :
https://www.ofs.org.my/en/company_overview
At least OFS got email address. Transferwise seems to not be under their supported list but CIMB is. Waiting for their reply now.

Just now when I called CIMB asking for ticket number.. the dude who picked up sounded a bit nervous when I mentioned BNM. He took it seriously and say will help me assign the ticket to the internal transfer team / accounts team for checking. After that gave me all the ticket numbers that I asked for. He say will help only la.. dunno will really help or not. I told him to call me or email me back anytime.

Haih really seem like getting back my money is becoming more and more unlikely each passing day.  sad.gif  bangwall.gif
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Er, I'm sorry if I misunderstood, but have you checked your CIMB SG to see if your money is there?

Reading back your post, I think your intention is to send money to CIMB SG right?

Then, the customer service support said your money is sent to CIMB SG (bank code 7986) and the recipient number starts with 1 right?

And you think that you got it wrong because the recipient bank said CIMB Berhad? Just FYI CIMB SG official name is CIMB Bank Berhad (Singapore Branch). As you mentioned, transfer validity refers only to the account number itself, which you have not entered wrongly.

Again, sorry if I got the situation wrong.

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QUOTE(Hoshiyuu @ Jan 27 2022, 12:45 AM)
Er, I'm sorry if I misunderstood, but have you checked your CIMB SG to see if your money is there?

Reading back your post, I think your intention is to send money to CIMB SG right?

Then, the customer service support said your money is sent to CIMB SG (bank code 7986) and the recipient number starts with 1 right?

And you think that you got it wrong because the recipient bank said CIMB Berhad? Just FYI CIMB SG official name is CIMB Bank Berhad (Singapore Branch). As you mentioned, transfer validity refers only to the account number itself, which you have not entered wrongly.

Again, sorry if I got the situation wrong.

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Yeah agree with Hoshiyuu, if I understood you correctly Davidtcf.

Your intention was to transfer money from your CIMB MY account to your CIMB SG account via Wise.

So far, you have asked CIMB MY and Wise regarding the transaction you made. Maybe consider getting in touch with CIMB SG regarding your funds. Since CIMB SG are also part of the transaction process.

According to my search, CIMB SG is legally named CIMB Bank Berhad (Singapore Branch) from the website link I found below.
https://www.cimb.com/en/who-we-are/our-pres.../singapore.html

Trying to save a recipient's details on Wise, CIMB SG is legally named CIMB Bank Berhad and it gives a bank code of 7986; when I wanted to check back on my recipient's details.

I suggest you also communicate with CIMB SG just to be sure; financial institutions are highly regulated in order to prevent money laundering and funding terrorism. There is no way your money can just get lost in a transaction .

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I transfered it using this method earlier via SGD wallet. Yeah I went and checked again seems like they are all SG banks. I think..
Didn't realize earlier if change wallet currency the list of banks will change also.. They change according to that currency's local banks? Example if SGD shows SG banks, MYR shows Malaysia banks?

Ziet youtube showing how to transfer for his CIMB IBKR also similar. Just a few extra steps such as login to bank etc. If use this method then don't have.

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I had emailed CIMB SG already at atyourservice@cimb.com now wait their reply. Thing is no one from Singapore side contacted me yet. It's a new CIMB account first time trying to deposit money.

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QUOTE(Davidtcf @ Jan 22 2022, 11:41 AM)
Anyone got transfer to wrong bank before? Did u manage to get back the money?

I was suppose to transfer to my SG CIMB but instead transferred to MY CIMB. It is my first time doing this transfer. I inserted my own name and SG CIMB bank account number. Funds still went through as Wise do not do any account number checking on their end.

Really frustrated now as wise don’t work on Saturday and Sunday. Haih all due to my stupidity didn’t check properly did the transfer too fast now regret. Should have checked YouTube properly on how to transfer from Local bank to Wise, then to SG CIMB before assuming.😢

Their multi currency feature confused me I went to put money in SGD wallet then thought money going out there will be to Singapore. Name of bank is CIMB Bernard but I still didn’t catch that mistake zzz.

Already called CIMB and logged ticket to Wise.
CIMB say bank should auto reject for this.. but I’m not sure now as they also told me there are CIMB bank loan accounts starting with number 1 (Singapore account number starts with 1). I wanted to ask them check if this account number exists in CIMB Malaysia but they tell me cannot.. due to customer privacy. F**k.🤬 now can only depend on Wise to help as I had attached transfer receipt.. And really hope CIMB MY there reject the transfer and bounce back to Wise.

Don’t be like me guys. Always double or triple check especially if first time transferring.😭
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Could you clarify if you transfer out SGD or MYR? If you transfer SGD, automatically, you could only select Singapore’s banks.

Or did you transfer MYR to CIMB Malaysia, but you inserted CIMB SG account number? If this is the case, you could just do instant transfer (say RM1, from any of your existing Malaysian bank) to this account number to see if the same number, exist in CIMB Malaysia.

If the account number existed, it is probably owned by someone else, but you will know the account holder name, and proceed to report this to cimb to get your money back.

if the account number didnt exist, by right, the transaction should be reversed and you should get your money back.

I have a suspicion that your SG account number, the same number also exist in Malaysia. Hence that is why the transaction was successful in wise.

As mentioned by other forumers, CIMB registered name in Singapore is CIMB Bank Berhad.

Could you show the screenshot showing the transfer is successful?

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QUOTE(Mr Gray @ Jan 27 2022, 09:30 AM)
Could you clarify if you transfer out SGD or MYR? If you transfer SGD, automatically, you could only select Singapore’s banks.

Or did you transfer MYR to CIMB Malaysia, but you inserted CIMB SG account number? If this is the case, you could just do instant transfer (say RM1, from any of your existing Malaysian bank)  to this account number to see if the same number, exist in CIMB Malaysia.

If the account number existed, it is probably owned by someone else, but you will know the account holder name, and proceed to report this to cimb to get your money back.

if the account number didnt exist, by right, the transaction should be reversed and you should get your money back.

I have a suspicion that your SG account number, the same number also exist in Malaysia. Hence that is why the transaction was successful in wise.

As mentioned by other forumers, CIMB registered name in Singapore is CIMB Bank Berhad.

Could you show the screenshot showing the transfer is successful?
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I see.. means I sent it to CIMB SG to my SG account number.
I selected my SGD wallet earlier, selected local bank tab > then chose CIMB Bank Berhard, then transfer out.. just that if compare to the below video, Ziet's video has more steps in it:



The transfer might have missed a few steps, thats why so many days already also CIMB didn't contact me. Ziet mention first transfer using Wise is still working:



I followed the second video without referring to the first video on the exact steps. That's why end up can transfer wrong. Haih what a mess.
now just hoping SG CIMB can trace the money... cry.gif

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HOLY COW THE MONEY IS INDEED IN CIMB SG ACCOUNT.

Why Wise make the Wallet currency interface so confusing?? They stated local banks but is actually changing according to the currency chosen..
WALAO WEH MAKE ME RUN AROUND LIKE HEADLESS CHICKEN. shocking.gif

The moment I called SG cimb then they straight told me they saw the money in my SG CIMB already. doh.gif
Now all I need to do is perform KYC transfer from CIMB MY to SG with SGD1 buck to activate the account.

sorry for troubling all of u, and THANK YOU SO MUCH for all the help here. You guys are AWESOME!! thumbup.gif

I would not have realize this without posting all the screenshots here and getting a respond laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Davidtcf @ Jan 27 2022, 09:41 AM)
I see.. means I sent it to CIMB SG to my SG account number.
I selected my SGD wallet earlier, selected local bank tab > then chose CIMB Bank Berhard, then transfer out.. just that if compare to the below video, Ziet's video has more steps in it:



The transfer might have missed a few steps, thats why so many days already also CIMB didn't contact me. Ziet mention first transfer using Wise is still working:



I followed the second video without referring to the first video on the exact steps. That's why end up can transfer wrong. Haih what a mess.
now just hoping SG CIMB can trace the money...  cry.gif
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I'm sorry, I still didn't quite understand where is the wrong step?

I'm still not sure if you send out SGD or MYR.

The transaction pages as the images that I've attached below would help to verify.

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QUOTE(Mr Gray @ Jan 27 2022, 12:02 PM)
I'm sorry, I still didn't quite understand where is the wrong step?
resolved already money is in my SG CIMB.. I did not realize it coz account not yet activated couldn't see.
Called CIMB SG they confirmed with me the money is there. smile.gif
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QUOTE(Davidtcf @ Jan 27 2022, 12:05 PM)
resolved already money is in my SG CIMB.. I did not realize it coz account not yet activated couldn't see.
Called CIMB SG they confirmed with me the money is there.  smile.gif
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Haha LOL that's why. Normal account, can immediately see if the money already

It's just because your account not activated yet. Hence cannot see the money in there.

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QUOTE(Hoshiyuu @ Jan 27 2022, 12:45 AM)
Er, I'm sorry if I misunderstood, but have you checked your CIMB SG to see if your money is there?

Reading back your post, I think your intention is to send money to CIMB SG right?

Then, the customer service support said your money is sent to CIMB SG (bank code 7986) and the recipient number starts with 1 right?

And you think that you got it wrong because the recipient bank said CIMB Berhad? Just FYI CIMB SG official name is CIMB Bank Berhad (Singapore Branch). As you mentioned, transfer validity refers only to the account number itself, which you have not entered wrongly.

Again, sorry if I got the situation wrong.

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QUOTE(The1stHumanBeing @ Jan 27 2022, 08:14 AM)
Yeah agree with Hoshiyuu, if I understood you correctly Davidtcf.

Your intention was to transfer money from your CIMB MY account to your CIMB SG account via Wise.

So far, you have asked CIMB MY and Wise regarding the transaction you made. Maybe consider getting in touch with CIMB SG regarding your funds. Since CIMB SG are also part of the transaction process.

According to my search, CIMB SG is legally named CIMB Bank Berhad (Singapore Branch) from the website link I found below.
https://www.cimb.com/en/who-we-are/our-pres.../singapore.html

Trying to save a recipient's details on Wise, CIMB SG is legally named CIMB Bank Berhad and it gives a bank code of 7986; when I wanted to check back on my recipient's details.

I suggest you also communicate with CIMB SG just to be sure; financial institutions are highly regulated in order to prevent money laundering and funding terrorism. There is no way your money can just get lost in a transaction .
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QUOTE(Davidtcf @ Jan 27 2022, 09:06 AM)
I transfered it using this method earlier via SGD wallet. Yeah I went and checked again seems like they are all SG banks. I think..
Didn't realize earlier if change wallet currency the list of banks will change also.. They change according to that currency's local banks? Example if SGD shows SG banks, MYR shows Malaysia banks?

Ziet youtube showing how to transfer for his CIMB IBKR also similar. Just a few extra steps such as login to bank etc. If use this method then don't have.

user posted image

I had emailed CIMB SG already at atyourservice@cimb.com now wait their reply. Thing is no one from Singapore side contacted me yet. It's a new CIMB account first time trying to deposit money.
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QUOTE(Davidtcf @ Jan 27 2022, 12:00 PM)
HOLY COW THE MONEY IS INDEED IN CIMB SG ACCOUNT.

Why Wise make the Wallet currency interface so confusing?? They stated local banks but is actually changing according to the currency chosen..
WALAO WEH MAKE ME RUN AROUND LIKE HEADLESS CHICKEN.  shocking.gif

The moment I called SG cimb then they straight told me they saw the money in my SG CIMB already.  doh.gif
Now all I need to do is perform KYC transfer from CIMB MY to SG with SGD1 buck to activate the account.

sorry for troubling all of u, and THANK YOU SO MUCH for all the help here. You guys are AWESOME!!  thumbup.gif

I would not have realize this without posting all the screenshots here and getting a respond  laugh.gif
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TS is making all to confuse,not cimb or wise

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QUOTE(jack2 @ Jan 27 2022, 12:55 PM)
TS is making all to confuse,not cimb or wise
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yeah I know right .. I also SMH at what just happened. doh.gif rclxub.gif sweat.gif

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QUOTE(Davidtcf @ Jan 27 2022, 12:00 PM)
HOLY COW THE MONEY IS INDEED IN CIMB SG ACCOUNT.

Why Wise make the Wallet currency interface so confusing?? They stated local banks but is actually changing according to the currency chosen..
WALAO WEH MAKE ME RUN AROUND LIKE HEADLESS CHICKEN.  shocking.gif

The moment I called SG cimb then they straight told me they saw the money in my SG CIMB already.  doh.gif
Now all I need to do is perform KYC transfer from CIMB MY to SG with SGD1 buck to activate the account.

sorry for troubling all of u, and THANK YOU SO MUCH for all the help here. You guys are AWESOME!!  thumbup.gif

I would not have realize this without posting all the screenshots here and getting a respond  laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Davidtcf @ Jan 27 2022, 12:05 PM)
resolved already money is in my SG CIMB.. I did not realize it coz account not yet activated couldn't see.
Called CIMB SG they confirmed with me the money is there.  smile.gif
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Bruh, you worry yourself for nothing. At least, you know your money is safe in your new CIMB SG account. Wish you the best in your SG account expenses smile.gif

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So the wise card's paywave is a hit or miss thing..some terminal can detect, some cannot…wtf, my card broken or what?
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So the wise card's paywave is a hit or miss thing..some terminal can detect, some cannot…wtf, my card broken or what?
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My going theory is that Wise is categorized under foreign/international credit card and still taking its time to transition through its acceptance biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(avinlim @ Jan 27 2022, 03:04 PM)
Dont Play play with all the sifu sifu here....all very geng chou one. Great that ur problem solved.
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agree.. glad that I shared my problem.. else till now won't know the reality of what's going on.

thanks all once again notworthy.gif

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Can I use wise card at petrol ⛽ pump?
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Can, but you need at least RM200 balance, as they would hold the RM200 before returning to you the unused amount so like you refuel RM50, they would return RM150.

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QUOTE(The1stHumanBeing @ Jan 29 2022, 06:32 PM)
Can, but you need at least RM200 balance, as they would hold the RM200 before returning to you the unused amount so like you refuel RM50, they would return RM150.
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It will withhold RM200 if you DIY.
It will not withhold RM200 if you paid at the counter.

I still think it's a lousy system.
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It will withhold RM200 if you DIY.
It will not withhold RM200 if you paid at the counter.

I still think it's a lousy system.
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So the wise card's paywave is a hit or miss thing..some terminal can detect, some cannot…wtf, my card broken or what?
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The reason why I think it's still best to use Malaysian debit/credit card for wave transactions in Malaysia.

Sometimes use Wise card can wave, sometimes have to use pin, so leceh.
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If you chose the normal postage, it would originally start with SingPost in Singapore then be transferred to Pos Malaysia once it arrives in Malaysia. My assumption since I used DHL express but inside the packaging it had SingPost envelope.
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QUOTE(The1stHumanBeing @ Jan 30 2022, 03:35 PM)
If you chose the normal postage, it would originally start with SingPost in Singapore then be transferred to Pos Malaysia once it arrives in Malaysia. My assumption since I used DHL express but inside the packaging it had SingPost envelope.
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I got my card in my mailbox
You are right is singpost - pos Malaysia 19/01 apply 31/01 receive normal post
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Is money received in the MYR section considered taxable if you use Wise to receive payment and hold the money in the Wise account?

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QUOTE(xPrototype @ Feb 1 2022, 09:46 PM)
Is money received in the MYR section considered taxable if you use Wise to receive payment and hold the money in the Wise account?
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is that money is considered as "Income" ?

Since 2004 to date, “income received in Malaysia from outside Malaysia” or foreign-sourced income (“FSI”) received by Malaysian taxpayers is not taxable due to the availability of tax exemption under Paragraph 28, Schedule 6 of the ITA (“Para 28”). Under this law, exemption is given to any person, other than a resident company carrying on the business of banking, insurance, or sea or air transport, in respect of income derived from sources outside Malaysia and received in Malaysia.
https://www.crowe.com/my/insights/taxabilit...-sourced-income

Govt agrees to exempt tax on foreign source income for resident taxpayers – MoF
The tax exemption is effective from Jan 1, 2022 to Dec 31, 2026.
https://www.mof.gov.my/portal/en/news/press...t-taxpayers-mof

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is that money is considered as "Income" ?

Since 2004 to date, “income received in Malaysia from outside Malaysia” or foreign-sourced income (“FSI”) received by Malaysian taxpayers is not taxable due to the availability of tax exemption under Paragraph 28, Schedule 6 of the ITA (“Para 28”). Under this law, exemption is given to any person, other than a resident company carrying on the business of banking, insurance, or sea or air transport, in respect of income derived from sources outside Malaysia and received in Malaysia.
https://www.crowe.com/my/insights/taxabilit...-sourced-income

Govt agrees to exempt tax on foreign source income for resident taxpayers – MoF
The tax exemption is effective from Jan 1, 2022 to Dec 31, 2026.
https://www.mof.gov.my/portal/en/news/press...t-taxpayers-mof
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Hello all

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I have some US $ 130++ in my PayPal Malaysia account
I managed add WISE Prepaid VISA card to my paypal account
It is possible to withdraw in USD from PayPal to Wise?

2.
Anyone have Tiger brokers / trade account here?
I managed add my WISE Singapore $ DBS bank account info
Can I withdraw/ cash out SGD from Tiger to WISE?

https://www.tigerbrokers.com.sg/help/detail/funds-withdrawal

Thank you

This post has been edited by wkkm007: Feb 2 2022, 02:47 PM
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I just received my wise debit card. How do I transfer from m2u or cimbclicks to my Wise account?
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I just received my wise debit card. How do I transfer from m2u or cimbclicks to my Wise account?
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bank transfer to the malaysia wise acc number
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bank transfer to the malaysia wise acc number
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When I open m2u, I couldnt find "wise" option in other bank list
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When I open m2u, I couldnt find "wise" option in other bank list
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open wise and look at your malaysian account details
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open wise and look at your malaysian account details
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Got it! Thanks.

Btw, when you transfer, the money is not instantly go into wise account? Need to wait like GIRO?
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Got it! Thanks.

Btw, when you transfer, the money is not instantly go into wise account? Need to wait like GIRO?
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FPX is instant, if you use bank transfer need to wait. how long? tentative for them to process.
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bank transfer to the malaysia wise acc number
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Bruh, why so mafan want to bank transfer to Wise (JPMorganChase) MYR Balance. Just use FPX to top-up your MYR balance. Bank transfer takes about a day while FPX is instantaneous.
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When I open m2u, I couldnt find "wise" option in other bank list
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You don’t bank transfer to Wise, pay via FPX. Imagine it like paying for your Shopee/Lazada shopping. The bank transfer feature is meant for Malaysians to bank transfer you money.

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QUOTE(The1stHumanBeing @ Feb 5 2022, 09:52 AM)
Bruh, why so mafan want to bank transfer to Wise (JPMorganChase) MYR Balance. Just use FPX to top-up your MYR balance. Bank transfer takes about a day while FPX is instantaneous.
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he ask from banking app to wise ma. from wise then fpx lo.
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QUOTE(wkkm007 @ Feb 2 2022, 02:42 PM)
Hello all

1.
I have some US $ 130++ in my PayPal Malaysia account
I managed add WISE  Prepaid VISA card to my paypal account
It is possible to withdraw in USD from PayPal to Wise?

2.
Anyone have Tiger brokers / trade account here?
I managed add my WISE Singapore $ DBS bank account info
Can I withdraw/ cash out SGD from Tiger to WISE?

https://www.tigerbrokers.com.sg/help/detail/funds-withdrawal

Thank you
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1. Paypal Malaysia used to be able to withdraw USD to US bank to save FX rate, now they don't allow anymore only can withdraw MYR with their shitty FX rate, if u want to withdraw USD to wise us bank u must open another US paypal

2. not sure about tiger broker may u try use webull, i just tried recently with wise u can now deposit USD directly via ACH, ibkr also good if u want to buy irish domicile ETF like CSPX
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QUOTE(xdontmessup @ Feb 5 2022, 07:26 AM)
1. Paypal Malaysia used to be able to withdraw USD to US bank to save FX rate, now they don't allow anymore only can withdraw MYR with their shitty FX rate, if u want to withdraw USD to wise us bank u must open another US paypal

2. not sure about tiger broker may u try use webull, i just tried recently with wise u can now deposit USD directly via ACH, ibkr also good if u want to buy irish domicile ETF like CSPX
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When BNM asks you to shut a feature off, you shut em off. So can't exactly fault PayPal for not allowing multi-currency withdrawal anymore. Think that's part of the reason why Transferwise gained such a huge traction back then locally anyway.
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QUOTE(wkkm007 @ Feb 2 2022, 02:42 PM)
Hello all

1.
I have some US $ 130++ in my PayPal Malaysia account
I managed add WISE  Prepaid VISA card to my paypal account
It is possible to withdraw in USD from PayPal to Wise?

2.
Anyone have Tiger brokers / trade account here?
I managed add my WISE Singapore $ DBS bank account info
Can I withdraw/ cash out SGD from Tiger to WISE?

https://www.tigerbrokers.com.sg/help/detail/funds-withdrawal

Thank you
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you need a CIMB SG account if want to withdraw from Tiger Brokers.. check Tiger brokers thread here.

Check Ziet Invest videos on how to open a CIMB SG by first having a CIMB MY account. Can do everything digitally don't have to go to Singapore. Most important is need a CIMB MY active account first.

Currently Wise transfer is only for depositing money easily into Tiger Brokers.

This post has been edited by Davidtcf: Feb 10 2022, 10:07 AM
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Lads & Lasses, can I confirm that Wise has issued us Wise account holders a unique bank account number via J.P Morgan? Because it just says Wise Payments Malaysia when one is performing a DuitNow a.k.a Instant Transfer to it. I like the anonymity that one can receive funds without exposing their real name.

Used to be able to have anonymity via Bank of China (Malaysia) because they only support IBG (Inter-bank GIRO), but now, they started support DuitNow via account number, oh well.

This post has been edited by moonsatelite: Feb 17 2022, 03:14 PM
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QUOTE(moonsatelite @ Feb 17 2022, 03:11 PM)
Lads & Lasses, can I confirm that Wise has issued us Wise account holders a unique bank account number via J.P Morgan? Because it just says Wise Payments Malaysia when one is performing a DuitNow a.k.a Instant Transfer to it. I like the anonymity that one can receive funds without exposing their real name.

Used to be able to have anonymity via Bank of China (Malaysia) because they only support IBG (Inter-bank GIRO), but now, they started support DuitNow via account number, oh well.
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then there is risk of sending money to the wrong account
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QUOTE(xdontmessup @ Feb 5 2022, 07:26 PM)
1. Paypal Malaysia used to be able to withdraw USD to US bank to save FX rate, now they don't allow anymore only can withdraw MYR with their shitty FX rate, if u want to withdraw USD to wise us bank u must open another US paypal

2. not sure about tiger broker may u try use webull, i just tried recently with wise u can now deposit USD directly via ACH, ibkr also good if u want to buy irish domicile ETF like CSPX
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May I know how to open another US paypal account?
thanks
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Lads & Lasses, can I confirm that Wise has issued us Wise account holders a unique bank account number via J.P Morgan? Because it just says Wise Payments Malaysia when one is performing a DuitNow a.k.a Instant Transfer to it. I like the anonymity that one can receive funds without exposing their real name.

Used to be able to have anonymity via Bank of China (Malaysia) because they only support IBG (Inter-bank GIRO), but now, they started support DuitNow via account number, oh well.
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Confirmed, test transfer to myself

To

Account Number
XXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

Recipient Name
Wise Payments Malaysia Sdn. Bhd.

Transfer Type
To Other Banks

Bank Name
JP MORGAN CHASE BANK BERHAD

Transfer Method
DuitNow to Account (Instant Transfer)
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May I know how to open another US paypal account?
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You need SSN or ITIN to open it, unless u worked in US before or US citizen u can't get SSN, but ITIN u may get it in fiverr, there are tax agent who can help but u need to pay as much as $300-$500. it takes about 3-4months to get it. after u get it make sure u sign up via paypal.com/us the us version of paypal. For US business paypal, u may need another tax identity called EIN, this is similar like ITIN but for business. I believe u either need LLC for it or u may able to register for sdn bhd, i'm not sure

There is no other way to withdraw USD to US bank in paypal, else can just stick with MY paypal without going through all these hassle
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QUOTE(moonsatelite @ Feb 17 2022, 03:11 PM)
Lads & Lasses, can I confirm that Wise has issued us Wise account holders a unique bank account number via J.P Morgan? Because it just says Wise Payments Malaysia when one is performing a DuitNow a.k.a Instant Transfer to it. I like the anonymity that one can receive funds without exposing their real name.

Used to be able to have anonymity via Bank of China (Malaysia) because they only support IBG (Inter-bank GIRO), but now, they started support DuitNow via account number, oh well.
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what is the purpose to receive MYR in Wise if we can receive MYR from our own bank account?
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QUOTE(moonsatelite @ Feb 17 2022, 03:11 PM)
Lads & Lasses, can I confirm that Wise has issued us Wise account holders a unique bank account number via J.P Morgan? Because it just says Wise Payments Malaysia when one is performing a DuitNow a.k.a Instant Transfer to it. I like the anonymity that one can receive funds without exposing their real name.

Used to be able to have anonymity via Bank of China (Malaysia) because they only support IBG (Inter-bank GIRO), but now, they started support DuitNow via account number, oh well.
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QUOTE(jack2 @ Feb 18 2022, 12:29 PM)
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He mentioned he liked the anonymity.
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He mentioned he liked the anonymity.
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haha.. later he kena 3rd party scam
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haha.. later he kena 3rd party scam
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haha.. later he kena 3rd party scam
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He got more donations instead rclxms.gif
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not all places accept foreign cards i guess
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surprisingly Grab accepted Wise for topup.
anyone testing on petrol pumps yet ? i think might have to have to reserve 200 bucks like other debit card as a holding amount tho.
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surprisingly Grab accepted Wise for topup.
anyone testing on petrol pumps yet ?  i think might have to have to reserve 200 bucks like other debit card as a holding amount tho.
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Good to know wise can topup Grabpay.

Anyone try other ewallet like TNG and Boost?
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surprisingly Grab accepted Wise for topup.
anyone testing on petrol pumps yet ?  i think might have to have to reserve 200 bucks like other debit card as a holding amount tho.
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Yes, need reserve RM 200

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Hi all,

Is it able to topup wise account using credit card?
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Is it able to topup wise account using credit card?
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Saw this earlier in the day. With some luck this could mean I can withdraw directly from IBKR to Wise...
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