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Official LYN FIA Formula One World Championship V3, Kimi Raikkonen - 2007 World Champion.
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er... can we start posting now?
anyway, new thread with good news for Mclaren fans. McLaren escape penalty, despite breaching sporting code QUOTE McLaren will not be punished over their possession of confidential Ferrari data after Formula One racing's governing body, the FIA, decided there was no proof that the team had made use of the information. However, the FIA did find McLaren to be in breach of the International Sporting Code and warned them that they could face exclusion from the championship if they are subsequently found to have used the material. Following Thursday's extraordinary meeting of the FIA's World Motor Sport Council, the following statement was issued: "The WMSC is satisfied that Vodafone McLaren Mercedes was in possession of confidential Ferrari information and is therefore in breach of article 151c of the International Sporting Code. However, there is insufficient evidence that this information was used in such a way as to interfere improperly with the FIA Formula One World Championship. We therefore impose no penalty. "But if it is found in the future that the Ferrari information has been used to the detriment of the championship, we reserve the right to invite Vodafone McLaren Mercedes back in front of the WMSC where it will face the possibility of exclusion from not only the 2007 championship but also the 2008 championship. "The WMSC will also invite Mr Stepney and Mr Coughlan to show reason why they should not be banned from international motor sport for a lengthy period and the WMSC has delegated authority to deal with this matter to the legal department of the FIA." Source ya and hope there is peace in this thread as well.  |
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For me this is the important part of the article :
"But if it is found in the future that the Ferrari information has been used to the detriment of the championship, we reserve the right to invite Vodafone McLaren Mercedes back in front of the WMSC where it will face the possibility of exclusion from not only the 2007 championship but also the 2008 championship." |
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great, no penalty means competitiveness is remained for this year championship, else ...
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Phew... its really lucky that the McLaren team arent penalized for it, at least there is still some competition to be seen in the F1 sports between the McLaren and the Ferrari.
Anyway, shouldnt this be version 3 of the Official LYN F1 thread? or issit v2 ... |
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QUOTE(edwin3210 @ Jul 26 2007, 11:11 PM) great, no penalty means competitiveness is remained for this year championship, else ... ya ar now only realise tat. (feerari again )*lookin at the scoring table, the only driver that score points in all races - Fernando Alonso  then second is hamilton last race didnt score. |
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Jul 27 2007, 01:52 AM
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Jul 27 2007, 02:54 AM
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the recent race was the most dramatic race i've ever watched...
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Jul 27 2007, 06:31 AM
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Yeah the European gp kept me awake for the whole race for the first time
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definitely the most dramatic stage up till now, even the guys in BMW also got argued about their clash. haha, it's not juz bout ferrari vs mclaren u know, need to have other team involvement to spice things up
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Jul 27 2007, 09:18 AM
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Jul 27 2007, 10:56 AM
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QUOTE(Raikkonen @ Jul 27 2007, 09:18 AM) My money's on Heidfeld  . |
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Jul 27 2007, 11:08 AM
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QUOTE(edwin3210 @ Jul 27 2007, 10:56 AM) heidfield is envying raikkonen all the time since raikkonen move to McLaren from Sauaber Both of them debuted on the F1 race at the same time and with the same team together, so its rather awkward to see a teammate get hunted to the so-called one of the front runners of the F1 teams. .Heidfield aint that bad but its just that he is not that good either |
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Jul 27 2007, 11:10 AM
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QUOTE(-= Virgil =- @ Jul 27 2007, 11:08 AM) Both of them debuted on the F1 race at the same time and with the same team together, so its rather awkward to see a teammate get hunted to the so-called one of the front runners of the F1 teams. nope, heidfield came into F1 first, then baru raikkonen.Heidfield aint that bad but its just that he is not that good either |
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Jul 27 2007, 11:20 AM
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QUOTE(edwin3210 @ Jul 27 2007, 11:10 AM) nope, heidfield came into F1 first, then baru raikkonen. I see that Heidfeld has been with the Prost F1 team when he debuted, but it was just for one season.And both of them has been together with one season on the Sauber team. |
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Jul 27 2007, 11:22 AM
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QUOTE(-= Virgil =- @ Jul 27 2007, 11:20 AM) I see that Heidfeld has been with the Prost F1 team when he debuted, but it was just for one season. AFAIK, b4 that heidfield was the test driver for McLaren also. that is why heidfield pissed off when Mclaren wanna sign Raikkonen instead of himself And both of them has been together with one season on the Sauber team. |
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Jul 27 2007, 11:23 AM
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QUOTE(edwin3210 @ Jul 27 2007, 10:56 AM) heidfield is envying raikkonen all the time since raikkonen move to McLaren from Sauaber ya i remember it suppose to be heidfield transfer to Mclaren instead of raikkonen but at the end Hakinen suggested[ . Raikkonen.This post has been edited by cristiano7mu: Jul 27 2007, 11:50 AM |
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Jul 27 2007, 11:24 AM
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QUOTE(cristiano7mu @ Jul 27 2007, 11:23 AM) ya i remember it suppose to be heidfield transfer to Mclaren instead of raikkonen but at the end Hakinen chose Raikkonen. bcoz they r both finland's? |
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Jul 27 2007, 11:32 AM
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QUOTE(Amanda85 @ Jul 27 2007, 11:24 AM) bcoz they r both finland's? that time newspaper also said - "the next flying finn"but wat can we see now is - "the finn who needs a tank to drive" |
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Jul 27 2007, 11:33 AM
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QUOTE(cristiano7mu @ Jul 27 2007, 11:23 AM) ya i remember it suppose to be heidfield transfer to Mclaren instead of raikkonen but at the end Hakinen chose Raikkonen. sauce please. |
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Jul 27 2007, 11:37 AM
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QUOTE(evoHahn @ Jul 27 2007, 11:33 AM) sauce please. hm well i said i remember tat... but since u ask for source i'll try and find it. |
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Jul 27 2007, 11:40 AM
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QUOTE(cristiano7mu @ Jul 27 2007, 11:37 AM) hm well i said i remember tat... but since u ask for source i'll try and find it. well, does Hakkinen has a say which driver comes to McLaren? I thought it was Dennis decision? |
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Jul 27 2007, 11:43 AM
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It's half correct. Heidfeld was tipped to join McLaren that season because of his links with Mercedes. Hakkinen advised Ron to bank on Kimi instead.
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Jul 27 2007, 11:44 AM
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QUOTE(evoHahn @ Jul 27 2007, 11:40 AM) well, does Hakkinen has a say which driver comes to McLaren? I thought it was Dennis decision? hm he suggest/advise |
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Jul 27 2007, 11:46 AM
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QUOTE(cristiano7mu @ Jul 27 2007, 11:44 AM) hm he suggest/advise oh, if like that, you might have to rephrase your statement to " Hakkinen suggested kimi instead." |
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Jul 27 2007, 11:52 AM
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QUOTE(evoHahn @ Jul 27 2007, 11:33 AM) sauce please. wat sauce u want? BBQ sauce? chili sauce? tomato? or original sauce?  |
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Jul 27 2007, 02:12 PM
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QUOTE(Amanda85 @ Jul 27 2007, 11:24 AM) bcoz they r both finland's? heidfeld is german..... |
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Jul 27 2007, 03:16 PM
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QUOTE(cristiano7mu @ Jul 27 2007, 11:23 AM) ya i remember it suppose to be heidfield transfer to Mclaren instead of raikkonen but at the end Hakinen suggested[ i dont have source but i still remember in Montreal`01,Mika drive aggresifly to overtake Kimi while Kimi drive superbly to defend his position,after that race(at press conference)Mika told to the press that Kimi is the best driver to fill his position in McLaren,Mika said Kimi have potential to be world champion. Raikkonen. |
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QUOTE(faris21 @ Jul 27 2007, 03:54 PM) i dont have source but i still remember in Montreal`01,Mika drive aggresifly to overtake Kimi while Kimi drive superbly to defend his position,after that race(at press conference)Mika told to the press that Kimi is the best driver to fill his position in McLaren,Mika said Kimi have potential to be world champion. But i think Mika Hakkinen is the fastest F1 driver in this world....Do u agree>>>?? |
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Jul 27 2007, 04:17 PM
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QUOTE(Lionheart216 @ Jul 27 2007, 04:05 PM) But i think Mika Hakkinen is the fastest F1 driver in this world....Do u agree>>>?? Fangio still the fastest driver for me |
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Jul 27 2007, 04:19 PM
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QUOTE(faris21 @ Jul 27 2007, 03:54 PM) i dont have source but i still remember in Montreal`01,Mika drive aggresifly to overtake Kimi while Kimi drive superbly to defend his position,after that race(at press conference)Mika told to the press that Kimi is the best driver to fill his position in McLaren,Mika said Kimi have potential to be world champion. Kimi has the potential bt his skills isnt consistent, and more towards of damaging the car. QUOTE(Lionheart216 @ Jul 27 2007, 04:05 PM) But i think Mika Hakkinen is the fastest F1 driver in this world....Do u agree>>>?? its always nice to see mika vs schumacher. they both (IMO) are equally good. |
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Jul 27 2007, 04:52 PM
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QUOTE(faris21 @ Jul 27 2007, 04:17 PM) Fangio still the fastest driver for me elaborate please. would like to hear why you rate him so high.Added on July 27, 2007, 4:55 pm QUOTE(Lionheart216 @ Jul 27 2007, 04:05 PM) But i think Mika Hakkinen is the fastest F1 driver in this world....Do u agree>>>?? Hakkinen : pole - 26, fastest lap - 25kimi : pole - 13, fastest lap - 22 This post has been edited by evoHahn: Jul 27 2007, 04:55 PM |
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QUOTE(faris21 @ Jul 27 2007, 04:17 PM) Fangio still the fastest driver for me I don't think any of us were born yet to have watched him race so i think it makes your point kinda moot |
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Jul 27 2007, 05:24 PM
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QUOTE(verx @ Jul 27 2007, 05:20 PM) I don't think any of us were born yet to have watched him race so i think it makes your point kinda moot but i can say that, Lewis hamilton - the fastest rookie for sure. |
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QUOTE(evoHahn @ Jul 27 2007, 04:52 PM) elaborate please. would like to hear why you rate him so high. i never see video of fangio but according to record,he always win with a big gap1950 Monaco win with +1 laps gap 1951 Swiss win with +55s gap 1951 French win with +58s gap 1951 Spanish win with +54s gap 1953 Monza win with +1 laps gap 1954 Argentina win with +79s gap 1954 Germany win with +96s gap 1954 Swiss win with +58s gap 1954 Monza win with +1 laps gap 1955 Argentina win with +89s gap 1956 Silverstone win with +1 laps gap even Schumi cant win a lot of race by over a minute gap |
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Jul 27 2007, 08:25 PM
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Sakon Yamamoto is bak replacing Albers..
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Jul 27 2007, 09:32 PM
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QUOTE(sqwerk2 @ Jul 27 2007, 10:09 PM) correction, Australia lost their place as the season starter to bahrain. Will Malaysian GP remain as the second? |
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QUOTE(bysquashy @ Jul 27 2007, 10:18 PM) Will Malaysian GP remain as the second? Correction to myself, it was Bahrain who lost the bid......sorry sorry.... Added on July 27, 2007, 10:38 pm~edited~..... This post has been edited by sqwerk2: Jul 27 2007, 10:38 PM |
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Jul 27 2007, 10:48 PM
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for sure SIC will turunkan ticket price,if stay with old price,i will go to wacth Singapore GP
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hm ya i'm planning to go Spore to watch nx yr.
hope tat time got holiday. |
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for sure SIC have big problem now,many Asian F1 fan never wacth F1 roadcircuit,Singapore will get much money next year
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I will also go to watch Spore GP if I hv holiday at that time. Surely, a street circuit is more glamorous than a racetrack.
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QUOTE(faris21 @ Jul 27 2007, 07:15 PM) i never see video of fangio but according to record,he always win with a big gap i see. but you have to look at the competitors back then.1950 Monaco win with +1 laps gap 1951 Swiss win with +55s gap 1951 French win with +58s gap 1951 Spanish win with +54s gap 1953 Monza win with +1 laps gap 1954 Argentina win with +79s gap 1954 Germany win with +96s gap 1954 Swiss win with +58s gap 1954 Monza win with +1 laps gap 1955 Argentina win with +89s gap 1956 Silverstone win with +1 laps gap even Schumi cant win a lot of race by over a minute gap |
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Jul 28 2007, 12:47 AM
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QUOTE(evoHahn @ Jul 28 2007, 12:26 AM) i see. but you have to look at the competitors back then. what do u mean by look at the competitors back then |
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QUOTE(EroS @ Jul 27 2007, 08:25 PM) Sakon Yamamoto is bak replacing Albers.. Yamamoto?!I think i saw his name appearing with the Minardi F1 team during the past seasons, or issit another team?! Didnt fare well enough eh, now that he is in a Spyker, wonder if he will make any difference.... |
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QUOTE(evoHahn @ Jul 26 2007, 10:57 PM) For me this is the important part of the article : Unless Ferrari got a spy inside, if not how they going to know. I dont think its as easy as said."But if it is found in the future that the Ferrari information has been used to the detriment of the championship, we reserve the right to invite Vodafone McLaren Mercedes back in front of the WMSC where it will face the possibility of exclusion from not only the 2007 championship but also the 2008 championship." They aint using it this year doesnt mean next year they wont. |
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Jul 28 2007, 08:17 AM
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Jul 28 2007, 10:28 AM
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QUOTE(faris21 @ Jul 28 2007, 12:47 AM) what do u mean by look at the competitors back then Check the years bro.. |
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QUOTE(-= Virgil =- @ Jul 28 2007, 12:53 AM) Yamamoto?! last time he team up wit taku in minardi.. (I think I think i saw his name appearing with the Minardi F1 team during the past seasons, or issit another team?! Didnt fare well enough eh, now that he is in a Spyker, wonder if he will make any difference.... )2008 Formula One World Championship Calendar: 16 March Australia Albert Park 23 March Malaysia Sepang 6 April Bahrain Bahrain 27 April Spain Catalunya 11 May Turkey Istanbul 25 May Monaco Monte Carlo 08 June Canada Circuit Gilles Villeneuve* 22 June France Magny Cours 06 July Britain Silverstone 20 July Germany Hockenheim 03 August Hungary Hungaroring 24 August Europe** Valencia*** 07 September Italy Monza 14 September Belgium Spa 28 September Singapore Singapore 12 October China Shanghai 19 October Japan Fuji 2 November Brazil Interlagos * Provisional. ** Subject to circuit approval. *** The 2008 European Grand Prix will take place in Valencia. This post has been edited by EroS: Jul 28 2007, 10:37 AM |
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waa.. 2008 calendar is out!
QUOTE The 2008 calendar in full: 16 Mar Australia 23 Mar Malaysia 6 Apr Bahrain 27 Apr Spain 11 May Turkey 25 May Monaco 8 Jun Canada* 22 Jun France 6 Jul Great Britain 20 Jul Germany 3 Aug Hungary 24 Aug Europe** 7 Sep Italy 14 Sep Belgium 28 Sep Singapore** 12 Oct China 19 Oct Japan 2 Nov Brazil *Provisional **Subject to circuit approval Europe = Valensia edit:: This one from F1 official site.. the previous post, Singapore missed the ** This post has been edited by wk1168: Jul 28 2007, 10:39 AM |
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Jul 28 2007, 10:48 AM
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QUOTE(faris21 @ Jul 28 2007, 12:47 AM) what do u mean by look at the competitors back then the modern F1 is so competitive. Look at modern F1 qualification time : even Minardi (was considered the weakest team in F1 then) was never more than 3-4 seconds off pole sitter.F1 in the '50 is more an attrition race, meaning that cars reliability was not good then. It was common practice back then, if drivers can change cars in the middle of the race is his original car broke down. But Fangio is still one of the great F1 drivers. |
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QUOTE(EroS @ Jul 28 2007, 10:32 AM) last time he team up wit taku in minardi.. (I think Taku never drive for Minardi,Yamamoto is Taku team mate in Aguri early of last season before Davidson replace Yamamoto ) |
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QUOTE(faris21 @ Jul 28 2007, 11:17 AM) Taku never drive for Minardi,Yamamoto is Taku team mate in Aguri early of last season before Davidson replace Yamamoto Right right! Yamamoto used to be the test driver for the Jordan team in 2005 and then he went over to the Super Aguri to be test driver again for the team *i think i saw his name last year, i think  *And now he will be in a Spyker F1 team, sweet comeback for a Japanese eh... ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ QUOTE(EroS @ Jul 28 2007, 10:32 AM) last time he team up wit taku in minardi.. (I think Austrailia will be again starting the F1 Championship next year, will it be the first night race?! )2008 Formula One World Championship Calendar: 16 March Australia Albert Park 23 March Malaysia Sepang 6 April Bahrain Bahrain 27 April Spain Catalunya 11 May Turkey Istanbul 25 May Monaco Monte Carlo 08 June Canada Circuit Gilles Villeneuve* 22 June France Magny Cours 06 July Britain Silverstone 20 July Germany Hockenheim 03 August Hungary Hungaroring 24 August Europe** Valencia*** 07 September Italy Monza 14 September Belgium Spa 28 September Singapore Singapore 12 October China Shanghai 19 October Japan Fuji 2 November Brazil Interlagos * Provisional. ** Subject to circuit approval. *** The 2008 European Grand Prix will take place in Valencia. Fuji is still the track for Japan, looks like the Suzuka's track condition is still not back to standard yet. And notice that Imola is missing... Valencia... blardy political tactics! This post has been edited by -= Virgil =-: Jul 28 2007, 12:18 PM |
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QUOTE(-= Virgil =- @ Jul 28 2007, 12:13 PM) Right right! no, doubt Australia will be night race. They already said they're not going down that road...Yamamoto used to be the test driver for the Jordan team in 2005 and then he went over to the Super Aguri to be test driver again for the team *i think i saw his name last year, i think *And now he will be in a Spyker F1 team, sweet comeback for a Japanese eh... ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Austrailia will be again starting the F1 Championship next year, will it be the first night race?! Fuji is still the track for Japan, looks like the Suzuka's track condition is still not back to standard yet. And notice that Imola is missing... Valencia... blardy political tactics! |
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Yes, The organizer for Aussie GP has officially announced that it wont be a night race. However, the race will start a few hours later to accomodate European viewers
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QUOTE(faris21 @ Jul 28 2007, 11:17 AM) Taku never drive for Minardi,Yamamoto is Taku team mate in Aguri early of last season before Davidson replace Yamamoto tats y i think loh.. lolz.. coz i cant remember clearly which team Sakon was in.. |
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QUOTE The hostility between F1's arch rivals Ferrari and McLaren stepped up another gear on Friday, following the controversial verdict of the FIA World Council. never trust your enemy ..........Maranello based Ferrari, enraged that its championship competitor escaped the sanctioning powers of the governing body despite being found guilty of espionage, took the unprecedented step of publishing a tirade against McLaren on its team website. Jean Todt is quoted as accusing his team principal counterpart Ron Dennis of suggesting earlier this season that the pair sign an agreement to improve relations between the embittered teams while knowing that a rogue Ferrari employee was leaking secret information to his chief designer. "There was an exchange of views," Todt is attributed as saying, "and, believing in their good faith, I agreed to sign this agreement on June 9. " The so-called 'spying' saga, that has scandalised the sport ever since, then broke out after a photocopy worker tipped off Ferrari that Mike Coughlan's wife had tried to manipulate some 780 pages of Ferrari documents marked 'confidential'. Todt said: "So, on the one hand, they had come to say 'let us trust one another' and, on the other, they were hiding serious facts but making no effort to inform us as would have been in the spirit and to the letter of our agreement." A McLaren spokeswoman declined to comment, but Dennis has previously insisted that he only learned about Coughlan's possession of secret data on July 3. Todt, meanwhile, vowed to keep fighting for the 2007 championships but said it now felt like "playing poker with a rival who already knows what cards you are holding".  |
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Jul 28 2007, 05:30 PM
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QUOTE(htkaki @ Jul 28 2007, 02:10 PM) Yes, The organizer for Aussie GP has officially announced that it wont be a night race. However, the race will start a few hours later to accomodate European viewers it will be start 3:30(Australia time) |
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Jul 28 2007, 06:00 PM
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Well, I think FIA got to consider about TV viewers before sentencing them. If they ban mclaren for the rest of the season or deduct their points, surely alot of people won't watch F1 anymore. So Mclaren possessed the document at the right time.
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Jul 28 2007, 06:11 PM
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QUOTE(karhoe @ Jul 28 2007, 06:00 PM) Well, I think FIA got to consider about TV viewers before sentencing them. If they ban mclaren for the rest of the season or deduct their points, surely alot of people won't watch F1 anymore. So Mclaren possessed the document at the right time. same with Sepang`99 situation,if FIA disqualified Schumi-Irvine,McLaren and Mika will get the titles,, surely Japanese won't watch last race of the season at SuzukaNow, left the sabotage case |
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Jul 28 2007, 06:48 PM
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QUOTE(karhoe @ Jul 28 2007, 06:00 PM) Well, I think FIA got to consider about TV viewers before sentencing them. If they ban mclaren for the rest of the season or deduct their points, surely alot of people won't watch F1 anymore. So Mclaren possessed the document at the right time. now we're seeing ferrari cries all over the news .... Now, left the sabotage case todt and luca just wont stop whining QUOTE Todt, meanwhile, vowed to keep fighting for the 2007 championships but said it now felt like "playing poker with a rival who already knows what cards you are holding". as you can see this is absolute crap. if this is true, mclaren would have been quicker. only coughlan have the dossier and he has been suspended. he's talking like coughlan is the only engineer involved in the car's development... zzzzz This post has been edited by blah1134: Jul 28 2007, 06:57 PM |
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Jul 28 2007, 07:07 PM
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he is the chief designner...
he's the one amking decisions for the car's design... get ur facts rite first k... deduct points would be fair move if they would want to keep the viewers tuning in... Added on July 28, 2007, 7:10 pmoh ya when todd means by the playing poker synonym is that with ferrari's data they would know how a ferrari work and thus can be sued to their advantage either usiing it in their car or for other issues like exploiting weaknesses during races... This post has been edited by evofantasy: Jul 28 2007, 07:10 PM |
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Jul 28 2007, 07:35 PM
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QUOTE(evofantasy @ Jul 28 2007, 07:07 PM) oh ya when todd means by the playing poker synonym is that with ferrari's data they would know how a ferrari work and thus can be sued to their advantage either usiing it in their car or for other issues like exploiting weaknesses during races... oh you know what ... coughlan is no longer working for mclaren. one needs to understand it, to put it into good use. As for now, we could only say coughlan is the one who understands the dossier. and it's 700 pages ... he might not even fully understand everything.This post has been edited by blah1134: Jul 28 2007, 07:37 PM |
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Jul 28 2007, 07:39 PM
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QUOTE(blah1134 @ Jul 28 2007, 07:35 PM) oh you know what ... coughlan is no longer working for mclaren. one needs to understand it, to put it into good use. As for now, we could only say coughlan is the one who understands the dossier. and it's 700 pages ... he might not even fully understand everything. you talk about understanding but do you? 700 pages and he does not understand everything? If he doesn't, I doubt he will be where he was. |
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Jul 28 2007, 07:49 PM
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alright even if he does understand everything ... does it makes a difference now ? or till the end of the season or next year. he is suspended.
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Jul 28 2007, 07:55 PM
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QUOTE(blah1134 @ Jul 28 2007, 07:49 PM) alright even if he does understand everything ... does it makes a difference now ? or till the end of the season or next year. he is suspended. He is suspended. So what? Information has been leaked. Damage has been done. |
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Jul 28 2007, 08:18 PM
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lol the infomationw as not gotten yesterday but 2/3 months back...
isnt there mreo than enough time? like in card game once u look at ur opponent's whole hand it doesnt matter after the 2nd, 3rd and so on card he put has u already know wut cards he have in his hand... he is suspended with the infomation known to mcclaren... |
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Jul 28 2007, 08:20 PM
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leaked to him and only him. ( okay his wife too ). other engineers didnt even bother to see the documents.
ferrari is still faster. yet they're still whining. they have been faster for most of the time. The only reason mclaren is ahead for 20+ points is because ferrari's own c0ck ups. races like malaysia...oh and the recent euro gp. don forget their "not so good" reliability this season. This post has been edited by blah1134: Jul 28 2007, 08:21 PM |
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Jul 28 2007, 08:22 PM
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QUOTE(blah1134 @ Jul 28 2007, 08:20 PM) leaked to him and only him. ( okay his wife too ). other engineers didnt even bother to see the documents. we can discuss this in the other thread. why have two threads on the same topic? lol. anyway my two cents are there. I think they answer why we are complaining.ferrari is still faster. yet they're still whining. they have been faster for most of the time. The only reason mclaren is ahead for 20+ points is because ferrari's own c0ck ups. races like malaysia...oh and the recent euro gp. don forget their "not so good" reliability this season. |
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Jul 28 2007, 08:47 PM
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sorry my bad, didnt notice there's a thread for this.
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Jul 29 2007, 01:41 PM
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Salo clarifies Ferrari spying comment QUOTE LONDON (Reuters) - Former Ferrari driver Mika Salo on Saturday clarified comments made to a Finnish newspaper suggesting that the Italian team had routinely spied on Formula One rivals McLaren in the past. "What has been published in Ilta-Sanomat does not match the thoughts I wanted to express," the Finn said in a clarification provided by Ferrari. "I would therefore like to make it clear that I was only referring to Formula One in the late nineties, when radio technology was still at an almost amateurish level, which meant it could happen that some radio conversations could be listened to randomly because of interference." Salo was quoted on Friday, after a hearing of the sport's governing body into a spy controversy that has gripped Formula One, as saying that when he drove for Ferrari "we always spied on McLaren, listening to their radio traffic. "After every practice session I had in front of me, on paper, all the discussions Mika Hakkinen had had with his engineer." The Finn drove six times for Ferrari in 1999, twice finishing on the podium, after Michael Schumacher broke his leg in a crash at Silverstone. Compatriot Hakkinen was the world champion for McLaren at the time. Salo subsequently drove a season for Ferrari-powered Sauber before seeing out his career at Toyota in 2002. Ferrari were incensed after the governing International Automobile Federation (FIA) found McLaren guilty of a breach of the rules at a hearing in Paris on Thursday but imposed no penalty on the Mercedes-powered team. McLaren, whose chief designer Mike Coughlan has been suspended after a significant quantity of Ferrari information was found at his home, lead Ferrari by 27 points in the championship with seven races remaining. The FIA found there was insufficient evidence that McLaren, who argued that Coughlan was acting in isolation, had used the information "in such a way as to interfere improperly" with the championship. Source- Reuters |
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Jul 30 2007, 01:38 AM
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QUOTE(faris21 @ Jul 27 2007, 10:48 PM) for sure SIC will turunkan ticket price,if stay with old price,i will go to wacth Singapore GP QUOTE(cristiano7mu @ Jul 27 2007, 11:02 PM) hm ya i'm planning to go Spore to watch nx yr. hope tat time got holiday. QUOTE(car_o_scope @ Jul 27 2007, 11:30 PM) I will also go to watch Spore GP if I hv holiday at that time. Surely, a street circuit is more glamorous than a racetrack. Why not watch both, since they are so long apart  |
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Jul 30 2007, 01:51 AM
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I am all out for next year's SG GP race.
Instead i already had a provision for the whole trip  |
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Jul 30 2007, 11:39 AM
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QUOTE(bysquashy @ Jul 30 2007, 01:38 AM) Why not watch both, since they are so long apart many Malaysian not rich,just can wacth one race per year,if we live in US we can wacth both Canadian GP and USA GP,my fren who study at Indiana said he just spend USD10(RM34) for US GP granstand ticket,SIC ticket too expensive ler,if we have RM50 we only can get hill stand ticket,then SIC sell Pepsi RM5 per tin,hotdog RM20,at US GP u can buy 5 hotdog+2 Pepsi using RM25@USD7 |
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Jul 30 2007, 03:26 PM
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hm, its only USD10 for a indy f1 grandstand ticket? no wonder bernie don't like those cheapskates US audience, LoL
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Jul 30 2007, 05:38 PM
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QUOTE(faris21 @ Jul 30 2007, 11:39 AM) many Malaysian not rich,just can wacth one race per year,if we live in US we can wacth both Canadian GP and USA GP,my fren who study at Indiana said he just spend USD10(RM34) for US GP granstand ticket,SIC ticket too expensive ler,if we have RM50 we only can get hill stand ticket,then SIC sell Pepsi RM5 per tin,hotdog RM20,at US GP u can buy 5 hotdog+2 Pepsi using RM25@USD7 RM20 per hogdog?? rompak bank ka...i think msia must charge expensive bcoz if they charge RM10 for granstand otherwise msia rugi. Those europes tourist juz need to spend less than 2 euro to watch. This post has been edited by cristiano7mu: Jul 30 2007, 05:42 PM |
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Jul 30 2007, 05:39 PM
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Jul 30 2007, 05:46 PM
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Dennis slams `useless` F1 drivers
Dennis..... oookay..... QUOTE "We wanted a driver who was young and fresh, not a recycled driver coming from another team with the habits of another team," concluded Dennis. |
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Jul 30 2007, 05:53 PM
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QUOTE(-= Virgil =- @ Jul 28 2007, 12:13 PM) And notice that Imola is missing... Valencia... blardy political tactics! |
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Jul 30 2007, 06:16 PM
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Jul 30 2007, 06:20 PM
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QUOTE(sqwerk2 @ Jul 30 2007, 05:46 PM) he is refering to kimi raikkonen? |
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Jul 30 2007, 07:01 PM
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QUOTE(cristiano7mu @ Jul 30 2007, 05:38 PM) RM20 per hogdog?? rompak bank ka... one more thing about SIC,parking ticket(RM50),other circuit allow ticket holder park their car for freei think msia must charge expensive bcoz if they charge RM10 for granstand otherwise msia rugi. Those europes tourist juz need to spend less than 2 euro to watch. |
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Jul 30 2007, 07:14 PM
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Ah hah.. Finally, he has spoken.. He just wont sit down and let his business got affected..
Mr E: Spy ruling made, that should be end of it. |
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Jul 30 2007, 07:50 PM
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QUOTE(Raikkonen @ Jul 30 2007, 06:16 PM)  If the driver winning races...then he's not 'useless'. still no rights for him to call other drivers useless. |
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Jul 30 2007, 11:58 PM
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QUOTE(Raikkonen @ Jul 30 2007, 06:16 PM) If the driver winning races...then he's not 'useless'. |
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Jul 31 2007, 12:13 AM
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 {Taeyeon 101: the journey into her mysterious mind } {★} ⇒ Childhood * During middle school, she wanted to skip school and sneak out with her friends, they had to help each other jump over a wall or fence and when she was about to come down her coat was caught on the sharp edges so she was like hanging on it like a scarecrow with her arms spread wide. * Taeyeon got a nosebleed once because she got in a fight. (Poor baby) * Taeyeon used to chucked ice to the grass field in front of her apartment with her brother. And they competed who can throw the ice the farther, like icecubes. And during winter, when there are snow covering the grass field, they would try to draw something by throwing tons of ice cubes. * So one day, kid taeng peeled fruits for her daddy taeng after he came home from exercising. She specifically peeled sweet watermelons, which isn’t daddy taeng’s favorite fruit. But daddy taeng was moved and ate sweet watermelons anyway and he ate the seeds too, which he usually takes them out. (Good at heart) * Taeyeon: “So I had dolls and I cried a lot when its arm or leg fell off.” * Taeyeon used to…try to text and study. Turned out she texted more. * Taeyeon thinks those are good at math are like aliens to her. She is so fascinated with math nerds. * Back in elementary school, Taeyeon remarked saying that she was considered one of the tallest girl in her grade. One of the guests then joked saying “Ah, does that mean you’ve maintained the same height all the way until now?” To which Taeyeon replied saying she’s probably grown at least 2 cm more? She also fought frequently with boys back then, perhaps because she was taller/bigger than them? Girls tend to grow more faster than boys in elementary. Despite her looks, she’s also fought very viciously at times with others (including her brother). She commented saying that she was a ‘Fighter’ back then. * When Taeyeon was in high school, she was part of the library club at one point… and also a movie-watching and a dancing club. * Taeyeon used to play burping games with her brother * When she was a trainee, she used to play around hiding in a locker. * Taeyeon was asked out by this guy, when she was in grade school, but that guy was a player and he asked her out…and Taeyeon was the 3rd or 4th person….and Taeyeon was like wth is wrong with you. * When Taeyeon was forced to learn tables by her mother, her father was taping it with a camcorder! * When Taeyeon was an elementary student, she didn’t pay attention in the class and failed in a multiplication quiz. Then her mother got angry at it, she forced Taeyeon to learn multiplication at home, holding a switch. * Just like every little girl, little taeng was fascinated by her mom’s cosmetics products, while her mom was at work. Soon, she was putting this and that on her face; she tried blue eyeshadows…then black eyeshadows for smokey look. Time flew by and her mom rung the door bell, while taeng was still playing around with her mom’s cosmetics. So she opened the front door with her face down. Then as soon as she opened the door for her mom, she ran to the bathroom, before her mom noticed. However she still had bluish make up mark around her eyes so mommy taeng found out anyway. * You know how you write what you wanna be when you grow up thing at school? So taeng’s dream was becoming a singer. But because her school teachers belittled about how becoming a singer is bad thing, kid taeng became self-conscious about writing down her dream as becoming a singer; she was like that until middle school. Then during her 2nd year at mid school, she actually took a bold step and focused her activities on becoming a singer. Unfortunately, during her last year at mid school, her teacher wasn’t so understanding about taeyeon’s dream of becoming a singer. Teacher: “A student needs to study…why would you study music? TaeYeon: that’s why I used to be embarrassed about “What my dream is…” * When she was little she would race with the subway trying to outrun with her friends as the subway gets off the station. She thought she could outrun the subway, because you know it starts off slowly until it gains momentum. Like in the beginning Taeng was ike yeah!!! then….NOOO!!! ⇒ Imperfect yet extraordinary creature * Taeyeon: I think if i were to be a guy i would do really good (as in being a boyfriend) * Taengoo mentioned that she really enjoys playing games and is “quite good” at it (she said it herself lol) She specifically enjoys playing arcade games (ie. Super Mario) and those games where you have to clear stages. She also likes playing those tycoongames where you have to sell stuff (ie. coffee, cakes, etc.) * Taeyeon is so bad with directions. Her destination was directly across the street but she took a taxi. Then taxi driver gave a strange look to taeyeon when they reached the destination in 10 seconds. A quick u-turn…drove for like 5seconds..arrived Aigoo!!!* She sleeps with her eyes 2/3 opened.  * Her most precious possession is perfume. * She loves guys with broad shoulders. (Me! Me! ;p) * Taeyeon dislikes things with lots of legs (aka insects) * Taeyeon: so after watching harry potter i thought i was a magician. im serious. i searched broom sticks that fly and searched for wands and remember magic spells. i was a bit immature. * Being such a shorty as she is, she once complained: “One thing I’m depressed about being short…you know how I’m on stage for recording for shows and stuff? Staff would give me a platform to stand on so I would be as tall as other ppl T_T” * Taengoo loves weird nasty stuff like bathroom/poops/barfing.farting jokes. ie: her hurricane diarrhea joke * She can’t resist hot weather cuz she can’t sleep So she loves winter because since it’s cold, you can put on more clothes to warm yourself up. But during summer, even if you take most of your clothes off you might still be suffering from the heat. (Me too) * Taeng said she prefers hugging, because she wants larger surface area of physical contact. Taeng: “Am I weird for saying that?” “I really love physical contact”. * TY: When I get a boyfriend, I wouldn’t want to watch movies with him because it’s a waste of time; i wouldn’t want to watch the screen for like hrs; I want to see his face. * She thinks she looks like a seal after shower. * Taeyeon knows how to play starcraft, and she likes protoss. (Nice!) * Taeyeon's ideal guy from dragon ballz is Vegata. ⇒ SNSD's leader * Taeyeon once was in a very serious/angry mode writing this long text to someone on her phone. She doesn’t remember which member did this but one of them came up and closed her flip cell phone as a joke. She said she was then just speechless at that member….. cause she had all these words and her thoughts written down on her cell at that moment that she couldn’t remember again. * Taeyeon said she’s not good at making a ramen noodle; her dad can make a better one. Other members scolded Taeyeon for putting too much water, when Taeyeon tried to make a Japagaeti (Instant noodle version of Jajangmyun). * Taeyeon explained the reason why she always stands between 2 tallest snsd members is because she does that to stand out more * She once did a 1000 piece puzzle in the middle of their dorm living room because she couldn’t sleep, and no one could do anything there anymore. * She always hides her tears. * When asked why she seems to talk less nowadays and it almost looks like she is holding back a little to maintain her idol image she answered, * Taeyeon: Haha, did you feel that way? Joking around and laughing out loud is a side of myself, but I also have a quiet side. After finishing our 1st album promotions, I continued starring in variety programs and radios. I had numerous chances to talk by myself or show my talents. So when I’m with all my members, I try to step back a little now. * Because of time the manager made announcement that handshakes won’t be allowed but Taengoo stubbornly offered handshakes. The manager kept trying to stop her but she argued with him that fans had waited all morning for it. * One thing that made me know Taeyeon was the leader, was that Soshi girls were sitting in the back in the beginning. Then they were to get ready and it was commercial time and someone was singing and the girls had to move to the front seats. At that time Taeyeon became like the commander and was instructing everyone, and that's something I remember. (@music station) * According to Yoona, Taeyeon didn’t talk much about her sadness, pain, and hardships before. But now she talks to members about those hardships in her heart. * Taeyeon answered that before she was… like when fans approach her she would tend to step back. But doing the concert last year she says she has gone through lots of changes in her thoughts and character. She said there are some things she made promise to herself. And many fans visit her parents spec shop and she talks to her dad at night about them. Listening to all the stories from fans Taeyeon says she felt that she should approach the fans herself. And said “From now on I will be loving more and more and I don’t think it will ever turn less heehee”. Compiled by hiD@soshified  QUOTE A lot of this post I reaped from some of my other posts here on SSF. It's Taeyeon's birthday, and I wanted to write a little something about her, as a homage to the leader of Soshi. Taeyeon is the leader of the 9. But what does that mean? What did it mean to her when they were just starting out and what does it mean to her now? There are many styles of leadership. She could have been autocratic, dictatorial, a little sexy Napoleon, but she chose the hardest path in leadership, one might even argue that it was the worst path for her to take. Taeyeon shouldered the heaviest of burdens and chose to remain a friend to her members. She leads by example, with encouragement and constant communication. I think it was Tiffany who said since they'd been together for so long that they would all know if something was not right, that if someone was feeling out of sorts, it was instantly understood, just by looking. There is an important piece of understanding in this. These nine are exceptional people. The nine together are simply the best at what they do, which is to entertain and captivate us. To do that, they need to be in concert, in an orchestration of harmony, with one agenda. If one member is missing, or not with the program, if one member is feeling out of sorts, or ill, if one member is down, it affects them and us all. And yet they do it, day after day, days that stretch 16 to 20 hours or more of constant struggle, individually, in pairs and sub-groups, or as all 9, these girls spend more time with each other than any family I know. They sleep together, eat together, share bathrooms, looks, makeup, thoughts, dreams, tears, encouragement, clothes and love. The only one who keeps herself separate, the only one who maintains a slight emotional detachment is Tengu. Why is that? What makes a girl like her tick? First there is an enormous societal issue that a non-Korean might not understand. How did she become the leader? Well, in Korea it's all about experience, in life or on the job. It's like this. When two strangers meet, the first thing they do is establish commonality. You're a man, I'm a man, you're a white man, I'm a white man, you're a man dressed nicely in a business suit, I'm a man dressed nicely in a business suit. And then things can progress smoothly. It's human nature. The more similar a person is to you, the more you can infer, because you know yourself. It's incongruous when that nice white man in a business suit starts throwing gang signs or whips out crocheting needles and starts making you a sweater. It just doesn't happen. In a heterogeneous society, like America, there are taller walls for people to climb in terms of communication and expectation and ironically, the commonality is often how different people are from one another. But in Korea, it goes like this. You're Korean, I'm Korean. You're older, I'm younger. You lead, I follow. Of course it isn't quite as simplistic as that, there is social stratification, educational boundaries, the rural and urban divide, but still, at the bottom it's all ageism. Leader, unnie, dongsaeng, maknae, sunbae, hoobae. If you pay attention to Kpop, these are words you know. How well you do your duty, as expected of you, as expected of yourself defines worth and self-worth societally. Respect is the name of the game, giving and receiving, according to your role. But being the leader, to a good leader, is more burden than benefit. Burden, burdensome, it's a word used much more in Korean society than American. Boodamsae, burdensome. Expectation is a burden. The expectation that you will do your duty, without shirking. Imagine throwing a party for your peers. It lies on you to be entertaining, to have the place looking wonderful, the food and drinks must be top-notch, the conversation has to flow naturally, the awkward wallflowers have to be engaged. Good parties are rarities because good hosts are rare. So what did it mean to our Tengu? Now imagine, you're going to debut. You've been training for years, learning how to move, and sing, how to hold yourself, how to behave in front of a camera. You've been doing that with friends, colleagues, fellow students, some you're close with, some you've competed with, some you've seen leave and not return. It's been very much a journey of self-improvement. And then the word comes. You're going to debut with these eight girls. Some are close friends, some acquaintances, one or two you don't really know. Oh, by the way, you're the leader. What sort of nightmare has this just become? Imagine the pressure on Taeyeon. The expectation. If the girls fight, it's on her. If one of them is lazy or doesn't improve enough, it's on her. If the group fails, it's on her. Boodamsae? Yeah. Thankfully she was blessed to have these eight, just as hungry for success as she was, just as willing to sweat and spend their tears as she was. But making them one, leading them forward and keeping herself separate, what strength that took, when she had no previous experience. How hard was it? Remember the story of her running away right before their debut? The timing seems about right. Second thoughts, dreading the days ahead, worrying, crying. Such small shoulders to shoulder this burden. But we see her now. She struggles to not outshine any of the others. She's a powerhouse vocalist, incredibly talented, wise beyond her years, and is without a doubt, because of her decisions, the very best leader that Soshi could have ended up with. Flat out, Soshi is exceptional in large part because she is who she is. She's barely into her second decade, when most of her contemporaries are having fun in college, she's riding herd on a platoon and in a warzone to boot. 2009 was THE year of Soshi, and they were on top of their game, every day. They certainly have the awards to prove it, but they also have the bruises, tears and exhaustion spent to earn every accolade and more. I think if any normal person were to live their schedule for a week, we would throw in the towel, or shoot an SME manager depending on whether the gun or towel were closer to hand. Imagine that kind of pressure, on kids barely through their teens. The only thing that allows them to get through another day is their support structure of family, friends, and most importantly each other. Ah, but there's the rub. The worst possible thing for Taeyeon. Simply put, the rest of the girls can lean on each other, but Taeyeon has no one to lean on. She simply can't, because a leader doesn't lean. Add to that, the fact that her family is so far from Seoul. On the odd holiday that SME doles out to the girls, she stays in the dorm, while most of them get to go back to their nearby families. Is it any wonder that she has moments of doubt? Moments when she doesn't want the burden of telling her friends to do something that they have to do? When she herself wants nothing more than to curl up in a ball and cry? And she hides most of what she's feeling from them, just as she mostly hides her tears from us. Three years. Three long years. It wears on a person. Expectation. Constant, unending, indeed, increasing expectation. What's the upside to being a leader? No, not the automatic respect and deference that small-minded people would enjoy. Just pride, pride in leading these girls to success after success. She good at it. Results don't lie, Soshi is the best, not because they are the best singers or dancers, but because they are one. People have their favorite members, I think that's just human nature, but for me, I love whichever one I'm looking at at that moment. Not because I'm somehow immune from picking favorites, but because they are best when they are together. Does something like SNSD just happen? Of course not, SNSD is unnatural, their lack of jealousy is the antithesis of fame-seeking, me-first, ambitious behavior. I mean here we have 9 very talented and beautiful girls, each unique, each driven to succeed, and what do we end up with? A family. A family that believes and challenges and supports each other. And it's Taeyeon and her style of leadership that deserves a huge part of the credit. She's a nurturer, a true mother. She's always happy to fade into the background and let one of her girls have the spotlight and the mic. She's extremely self-deprecating, ridiculously and oddly beautiful, and hilarious. In her solo stage during the Soshi concert, when she's singing Hush Hush, we get to see a Taeyeon that she hides so well. She's a superstar, with megawatt sex bomb appeal. Our dorkmunster supreme can work the stage with the best of them, and not give anything away. Her soaring vocals are the best of any idol. But that is only part of who she is. A small part. I think the closest we get to the real girl inside is her as Chinchin's DJ. She's unconsciously entertaining. She can make faces, eat, talk, laugh with abandon, twirl a pen, pose for stills or bora and people will just stare or listen. She's 158ish centimeters of pure entertainer. It's no accident that just her speaking voice is enough to capture anyone's attention. She doesn't need to show anything more than a funny face to hold her own with any of the other girls. On IY, Sunny and Yuri are the pros. Through their work they let the others shine. Think about that. The best of T-Ara, BEG, Kara, Secret, and it's two Soshi's that lead the group. And yet, when the nine are together, who is the leader, the one that lets the others shine? There's one scene of her, on Inkigayo, the Beauty Girls Talk Talk corner, where she's with the leaders of Kara and 2NE1 and 4Minute. Firstly, of the four, she simply carried the conversation, naturally, without ego, she led the other leaders. I think it was Gyuri who was talking, being positioned at the edge of the group, and JiHyun from 4Minute didn't want to crowd Taeyeon, so she was standing with a normal distance between them, which made Gyuri almost fall outside of the camera's view. Like a true professional, and the true leader she is, she pulled the 4Minute leader close, one, to break the boundaries that only a sunbae could initiate, and two so that Gyuri would have her time in the camera. Even for the closing shot, she took an end spot, letting the two rookie leaders, JiHyun and CL have the center. She was taking care of her hoobaes, her juniors. This is what being a leader is. That's her greatest quality. Her confidence in herself. She knows she can shine brighter than almost anyone else, so she doesn't need to. She knows she can speak better than anyone else, so she doesn't need to. It's only when it's for the group that she opens her mouth, like on the KJE Chocolate show, when everyone else is in tears, she chokes it back, and stays with the program, delivering the wrap up, the segue, the closing bit that keeps the girls moving forward. Except for Taeyeon, each of the members can be her own person, knowing there's eight others waiting to catch them if they fall. I do think she's relaxing more, as the others continue to grow. I just hope, if Taeyeon needs to, that she can let herself go, and realize that asking for help isn't a weakness, but giving her sisters back some of the trust they have in her. Happy birthday, Taeyeon, Soshi's one and only leader. Cr: Auratus (Soshified/Taegang) This post has been edited by Raikkonen: Sep 9 2016, 10:25 PM |
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QUOTE(faris21 @ Jul 30 2007, 11:58 PM) If the driver need a tank...then he's useless he didn't drove a tank, while winning d 3 races this season |
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QUOTE(Amanda85 @ Jul 31 2007, 11:41 AM) he didn't drove a tank, while winning d 3 races this season and broke down more than 3 races |
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QUOTE(sqwerk2 @ Jul 30 2007, 05:46 PM) waa... dat man got guts o say till like tat.. drivers r not useless, onli da teams r if they cant win race.. |
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QUOTE(edwin3210 @ Jul 31 2007, 12:32 PM) and broke down more than 3 races "He is world champion in waiting"-Hakkinen said in 2001 what Hakkinen say now?? |
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QUOTE(faris21 @ Jul 31 2007, 01:45 PM) "He is world champion in waiting"-Hakkinen said in 2001 He says nothing now except that he is enjoying his DTM.. what Hakkinen say now??  |
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QUOTE(faris21 @ Jul 31 2007, 01:45 PM) "He is world champion in waiting"-Hakkinen said in 2001 countrymate mah, but since he left for ferrari, i dun think hakkinen will gv a dam over him liao. raikkonen is current most dissapointed driver. he badly need a tank ler what Hakkinen say now?? |
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Jul 31 2007, 02:19 PM
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if kimi in mika's era...sure he can wins wdc especially with no 2races per engine
...but now, sorry laa bro....one more thing...every word that came out from alonso mouth,he is whinning n be called mr crybaby... n now who is crying n who is whining???? but does anybody say anything about it? |
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QUOTE(edwin3210 @ Jul 31 2007, 01:57 PM) countrymate mah, but since he left for ferrari, i dun think hakkinen will gv a dam over him liao. raikkonen is current most dissapointed driver. he badly need a tank ler QUOTE(TOYO @ Jul 31 2007, 03:01 PM) if kimi in mika's era...sure he can wins wdc especially with no 2races per engine Ferrari must built a tank as soon as possible bcos Mr Needtank crying loudly now,FIA must deduct McLaren point too in order to make Mr Needtank stop crying ...but now, sorry laa bro....one more thing...every word that came out from alonso mouth,he is whinning n be called mr crybaby... n now who is crying n who is whining???? but does anybody say anything about it?  |
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mclaren is in danger again, hehehe
http://www.f1-live.com/f1/en/headlines/new...731170134.shtml Mosley agrees to re-open McLaren spy case FIA Court of Appeal to hear team arguments QUOTE FIA President Max Mosley on Tuesday agreed to send the espionage case against McLaren to the governing body's Court of Appeal. Following the written request of Ferrari's national sanctioning organisation, the Automobile Club d'Italia (ACI), Mosley said it was right to further investigate the case because Ferrari had not been allowed to present evidence in last Thursday's hearing of the World Motor Sport Council. McLaren in Paris was found to be in breach of clause 151c of the International Sporting Code but was not penalised, which in ACI president Luigi Macaluso's view is 'quite difficult to justify'. He claimed that 'several top team representatives' of McLaren knew about chief designer Mike Coughlan's espionage activities over several months, but that Ferrari had been unable to counter McLaren's defence that no employee besides Coughlan knew about the 780-pages of secret information. In a written reply to Macaluso, who after the Paris hearing had also verbally questioned the FIA's decision, Mosley said probing the matter further was also important for 'public confidence in the outcome'. He wrote: "I will send this matter to the FIA Court of Appeal ... with a request that the Court hear both Ferrari and McLaren and any other Championship competitor who so requests and determine whether the decision of the WMSC was appropriate and, if not substitute such other decision as may be just." Source GMM CAPSIS International |
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Jul 31 2007, 11:56 PM
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edison...I always got confused with the other edison in here
You're a lot nicer though Vettel replaces Speed at Toro Rosso Link ~ http://www.itv-f1.com This post has been edited by Raikkonen: Aug 1 2007, 12:53 AM |
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QUOTE(Raikkonen @ Jul 31 2007, 11:56 PM) edison...I always got confused with the other edison in here got another edison? lolz You're a lot nicer though http://www.f1-live.com/f1/en/headlines/new...731230121.shtml Ferrari press on with legal action Statement with regards to the spy scandal QUOTE Today, in Maranello, the Ferrari S.p.A. Board of Directors met to deliberate about the legal actions taken in the last weeks by the Gestione Sportiva. The Board has ratified what happened until now, which is the action taken against Nigel Stepney over the fact of the powder found around the refuelling aperture on the F1 cars during the Monaco Grand Prix tests. The submission of another legal action against Stepney concerning the theft of technical information, the civil action presented to The High Court of London against Mike Coughlan, chief designer of Vodafone McLaren Mercedes, and his wife, concerning the theft of the aforementioned documents. The Board took note of the FIA World Council's decision of 26th of July and of today's decision from the FIA President, Max Mosley, to refer this matter to a hearing of the FIA Court of Appeal, where Ferrari, as the injured party of the incident, will be accorded all the rights to which they are entitled in a trial, which was not the case at the World Council meeting. The Board gives its full authority to the Board of Directors' President, to the CEO, and to the Managing Director to initiate and continue any necessary legal action, in the name of the Company, in addiction to those legal actions already underway in every legal, civil, criminal, administrative, sporting jurisdiction be it, in Italy or abroad. Source Ferrari CAPSIS International http://www.f1-live.com/f1/en/headlines/new...731205619.shtml McLaren react to Mosley appeal Team fighting on in the espionage scandal QUOTE McLaren were naturally unhappy with today's announcement from FIA President Max Moseley that he would be appealing FIA's decision to exonerate McLaren who were accused of spying on Ferrari. The following statement is from McLaren... i now just want to see which team can absorb the pressure better, see who will crack first & which team really indeed deserve this year championship"Following a thoroughly misleading press campaign by Ferrari and pressure from the Automobile Club D' Italia, the FIA has asked the FIA International Court of Appeal to consider the unanimous decision made by the World Motor Sport Council on 26th July 2007. "Having considered in great detail the full submissions of both Ferrari and McLaren, the World Motorsport Council determined that there was no evidence that any information, passed by a Ferrari team member to a McLaren employee, had been brought into the organisation or provided any benefit whatsoever to the McLaren programme. "McLaren is not aware of any new information or arguments that have arisen since the meeting of the World Motor Sport Council and therefore assumes that these same materials will now be considered by the FIA International Court of Appeal. Whilst this is both disappointing and time-consuming, McLaren is confident that the FIA International Court of Appeal will also exonerate McLaren and we will in the meanwhile continue to focus on our current World Championship programme." E.A. Source McLaren Group |
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Aug 1 2007, 06:57 AM
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All things Stepney-Coughlan, i suggest we discuss it in the Poll-ed thread.
No point putting everything up in the "F1 Championship" thread. Anybody got the news on Scott Speed being physically harassed by Franz, team boss, Franz Tost. For me, i am not sure why Franz is just so angry at Speed for ending at Turn 1 in the last race. Button fell for it, so does Hamilton, Rosberg, .... Its really sad to see that Speed aint driving anymore for the STR for such a pathetic reason. |
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QUOTE(Raikkonen @ Aug 1 2007, 06:57 AM) Got confused with you guys named 'ed'. Revised...got two(2) edison...both were nice Unlike people with '0' mentality and garbage postings I think it's normal in a legal system...verdict...appeal...lawsuit etc. FIA afraid of losing their credibility...that's why reopen the case. I think Ferrari has the upper hand. Both in this case and in a GP. Currently has the fastest car. I wonder what kind of punishmen Ferrari wants |
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          Taeyeon (태연) - 그리고 하나 (And One) [That Winter, The Wind Blows OST] Taeng's OST "Closer" for drama "To the Beautiful You"!!!!! This post has been edited by Raikkonen: Sep 9 2016, 10:27 PM |
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QUOTE(edwin3210 @ Aug 1 2007, 02:14 PM) u mean me? ya he mean u laa bro... people with '0' mentality and garbage postings sampai hati cakap mcm tu kat u laa bro... ish ish ishhh Added on August 1, 2007, 4:12 pmhermmm...might be this will be the future F1 car???  » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « This post has been edited by TOYO: Aug 1 2007, 04:12 PM |
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QUOTE(TOYO @ Aug 1 2007, 02:34 PM) » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « |
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ayaa...don't take it so serius laaa raikonen
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Aug 1 2007, 05:37 PM
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hehhe...then post it on that thread laa...so no one will misunderstood...
ok back to F1, QUOTE(Salo backtracks on Ferrari 'spy' comments) Mika Salo clarifies the comments made that suggested Ferrari spied on McLaren in the late-nineties. Mika Salo has moved to play down the comments he made following the conclusion of the spy saga that suggested former employers Ferrari routinely spied on arch-rivals McLaren in the past. Salo was quoted as suggesting in Finnish newspaper Ilta-Sanomat that the Italian team regularly listened and noted down the radio traffic from McLaren, but the former test driver for Ferrari insists it was not necessarily deliberate. Salo, having initially tested for the team, competed in six races for Ferrari in 1999 in place of an injured Michael Schumacher and claims the low-tech radio devices made listening in almost inevitable. Nonetheless, he wanted to clarify his suggestions. "What has been published in Ilta-Sanomat does not match the thoughts I wanted to express," the Finn told Reuters. "I would therefore like to make it clear that I was only referring to Formula One in the late nineties, when radio technology was still at an almost amateurish level, which meant it could happen that some radio conversations could be listened to randomly because of interference." Salo's comments came following the decision by the FIA not to punish McLaren, despite agreeing that they had come into contact with highly confidential documents from rivals Ferrari earlier this year. He had said: "We always spied on McLaren, listening to their radio traffic. After every practice session I had in front of me, on paper, all the discussions Mika Hakkinen had had with his engineer." SOURCE if mclaren = mcheater, then ferrari = ??? |
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QUOTE(TOYO @ Aug 1 2007, 05:52 PM) hehhe...then post it on that thread laa...so no one will misunderstood... thats why i said the spying was not a new thing in F1. There is an article bout how they use tyre spotter to spy on other teams in F1 Racing mag few moons ago..ok back to F1, SOURCE if mclaren = mcheater, then ferrari = ??? |
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there's an article saying that mclaren know about ferrari moving floor at the opening race in ausie because they already had ferrari document at that time, really??
then last season how come ferrari know about renault mass damper located inside the renault front nose? r they also had renault document at that time? correct me if im wrong |
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Aug 1 2007, 07:13 PM
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we going to court again,Max Mosley kacau McLaren`s preperation for Hungary GP
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QUOTE(faris21 @ Aug 1 2007, 07:13 PM) we going to court again,Max Mosley kacau McLaren`s preperation for Hungary GP Not just McLaren, Ferrari is part of the case too. So it would be kacau both teams not just McLaren. |
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QUOTE(-= Virgil =- @ Aug 1 2007, 08:15 PM) Not just McLaren, Ferrari is part of the case too. maybe we will see BMW taking advantage of the current situationSo it would be kacau both teams not just McLaren. if this weekend we can see alonso & massa bang again, that would be great |
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QUOTE(Raikkonen @ Aug 2 2007, 01:05 PM) And maybe this time, Massa has the last laugh i hv a feeling that Massa will play serious bumper car in the next race. What goes around comes around....good and bad things. On 2nd thought, I doubt that....Kimi and Lewis won't let that 'happen' Punters 'deserting' Hamilton - bookmaker The fickle world of high street gambling Link ~ http://www.f1-live.com McLaren hit out at Ferrari Link ~ http://www.autosport.com Remind me when is the last time we had a tense season like this? |
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if he do that, surely he learn it from "cikgu" schumacher
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QUOTE(edwin3210 @ Aug 2 2007, 04:57 PM) i hv a feeling that Massa will play serious bumper car in the next race. ?! Am i missing something here? Massa will play a serious bumper car in the next race?! Who does he have a grudge against?! |
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QUOTE(edwin3210 @ Aug 2 2007, 04:57 PM) i hv a feeling that Massa will play serious bumper car in the next race. its not worth it,he will just try to win |
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yup, not worth it but he had done it twice
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QUOTE(TOYO @ Aug 2 2007, 07:43 PM) yup, not worth it but he had done it twice the 3rd time will be the most controversial one. |
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QUOTE(edwin3210 @ Aug 3 2007, 08:44 AM) the 3rd time will be the most controversial one. if u wan 2 win, u need 2 hv guts.... |
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QUOTE(Amanda85 @ Aug 3 2007, 09:03 AM) if u wan 2 win, u need 2 hv guts.... massa have the biggest guts to play bumper car. reminds me of the King - schumacher, and the queen - Montoya. |
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QUOTE(edwin3210 @ Aug 3 2007, 09:43 AM) massa have the biggest guts to play bumper car. reminds me of the King - schumacher, and the queen - Montoya. but 1 must know how 2 use it smartly la. d king was 7 times WDC...while d queen now driving nascar... v'll wait n c which path massa will follow......  This post has been edited by Amanda85: Aug 3 2007, 09:52 AM |
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hehehe... "follow the leader"
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Weekend weather update - rain possible in humid Hungary
Welcome to the 11th round of the 2007 FIA Formula One World Championship, the Hungarian Grand Prix at the Hungaroring. For the fourth race in succession the weather forecast is not particularly benign. It will be cloudy with an ambient temperature high of 29 degrees Celsius on Thursday, but there could be showers in the region thereafter when, respectively, temperature highs of 32, 25 and 22 degrees are anticipated for Friday, Saturday and Sunday. It is also likely to be very humid. The race will run over 70 laps of the 4.381 kilometre (2.722 mile) circuit, or 306.663 kilometres (190.560 miles). It starts at 1400 hours local time, which is two hours ahead of GMT. source from formula1.com |
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rain is not impossible nowadays @ every country...
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QUOTE(Amanda85 @ Aug 3 2007, 12:26 PM) rain is not impossible nowadays @ every country... god bless father nature.. weather had gone havok! |
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QUOTE(Amanda85 @ Aug 3 2007, 12:26 PM) rain is not impossible nowadays @ every country... lets hope another spectacular race like the previous one weather had gone havok! , with a bit of rain of coz.This post has been edited by edwin3210: Aug 3 2007, 01:02 PM |
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n more pointless race for hamilton
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then we can watch Alonso-Massa fight again
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QUOTE(faris21 @ Aug 3 2007, 02:48 PM) then we can watch Alonso-Massa fight again and watch the best bumper car action |
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QUOTE(edwin3210 @ Aug 3 2007, 03:11 PM) and watch the best bumper car action heh... then Alonso need call cameraman again and said "He hit my car again" |
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practice 1 results
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Kubica fastest?BMW really strong this season,Nick has potential to get his 1st win
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Aug 3 2007, 09:01 PM
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QUOTE(blah1134 @ Aug 3 2007, 07:02 PM) i agree!not saying tat not respect/welcome michael schumacher....but jus wan kimi to win.... |
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Aug 3 2007, 11:08 PM
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FP2 Time
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Aug 3 2007, 11:19 PM
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Alonso fastest
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Aug 3 2007, 11:20 PM
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Whoa!
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Aug 3 2007, 11:57 PM
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QUOTE(-= Virgil =- @ Aug 3 2007, 11:20 PM) Whoa! Fernando fastest! Alonso is no snail lar. of coz fast. |
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Aug 4 2007, 12:08 AM
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Weather forecast for the next few days in Budapest!
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Aug 4 2007, 12:24 AM
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again its only pratice so its not final...
the time do varies a lot from actual pace... hope a BMW podium this time as after a slow satrt their improvement is picking up soem pace... |
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Aug 4 2007, 12:32 AM
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hope McLaren repeat Monaco pace
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Aug 4 2007, 12:58 AM
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this track brings alonso lots of luck...his 1st win was in hungary too...
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Aug 4 2007, 12:53 PM
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QUOTE(adrian0229 @ Aug 4 2007, 12:58 AM) this track brings alonso lots of luck...his 1st win was in hungary too... But last year....  |
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Aug 4 2007, 01:52 PM
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QUOTE(adrian0229 @ Aug 4 2007, 12:58 AM) this track brings alonso lots of luck...his 1st win was in hungary too... i have a feeling that alonso will shine in this week race. |
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Aug 4 2007, 02:17 PM
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haha.....not to flame those alonso supporters......wait for the qualifying 1st....... i bet raikkonen will shine later today.....
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Aug 4 2007, 02:20 PM
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race like these are quite uncertain...
almsot everyone's game (ferrari, mcclarens and BMW)... based on pratice times alonso is fast but raikonon maybe hiding his pace... |
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Aug 4 2007, 02:21 PM
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Aug 4 2007, 02:24 PM
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not hidding his pace...but ferrari struggle with handling...
hamilton continue his bad luck with another spin hehehe... maybe he has run out of luck already |
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Aug 4 2007, 02:43 PM
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QUOTE(-= Virgil =- @ Aug 4 2007, 12:08 AM) Weather forecast for the next few days in Budapest! another weather sitehttp://www.wunderground.com/global/stations/12843.html Chance of Rain 40% chance of precipitation on sunday |
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Aug 4 2007, 02:56 PM
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I can't remember the last time McLaren fans actually wished for rain. The past few years that has been Ferrari's forte.
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Aug 4 2007, 03:18 PM
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HOLY SHIT WHEN WAS THIS CREATED TS U ARE 1337
tribute to our lovely gay-byun-dork-taengleader...    Only Taegoo deserves a shrine; love of my life I love other idols too but but nothing compared to Taegoo.   This performance always gave me goosebumps; could cry Even the musicians at the back were stunned. Listen to the crowd in the end; amazing. Listening to 'Like a star', can't believe that's her voice; beautiful. It's M.Net "Star Song Relay" April 2008. This post has been edited by Raikkonen: Sep 9 2016, 10:44 PM |
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Aug 4 2007, 03:32 PM
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QUOTE(verx @ Aug 4 2007, 02:56 PM) I can't remember the last time McLaren fans actually wished for rain. The past few years that has been Ferrari's forte. Master of rain already retired,we need find new master of rain |
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Aug 4 2007, 06:04 PM
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Aug 4 2007, 06:24 PM
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Alonso vs Massa for pole
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Aug 4 2007, 06:54 PM
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What is the time here for qualifying? Is it shown on Astro?
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Aug 4 2007, 07:04 PM
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QUOTE(binary @ Aug 4 2007, 06:54 PM) What is the time here for qualifying? Is it shown on Astro? 8.pm and ofcos live on star sport |
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Aug 4 2007, 08:27 PM
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HIGH QUALITY ONLINE STREAMING
http://www.liveuktv.com SIGN UP FOR FREE ACCOUNT, use promo code FREETRIAL, select ITV CHANNEL !!! |
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Aug 4 2007, 08:40 PM
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Wah! Massa didn't make to Q3. on 14 position .
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Aug 4 2007, 09:03 PM
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I watched online streaming, see what Alonso did , did not move eventhough the lollipop was raised !
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Aug 4 2007, 09:04 PM
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P1. Alonso
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Aug 4 2007, 09:05 PM
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haha again alonso creates problem for hamilton.
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Aug 4 2007, 09:07 PM
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Yes. Great to see Mclaren 1 - 2
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Aug 4 2007, 09:09 PM
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another 1-2,Ferrari really strugling
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Aug 4 2007, 09:11 PM
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F***ing Alonso waited for Kimi to cross the line and he went out infront of Kimi's 2nd hot lap. That guy should be ban from F1
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Aug 4 2007, 09:14 PM
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so pity to Massa,this circuit is really hard to overtake,he will stuck behind BMW tomorrow
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Aug 4 2007, 09:17 PM
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QUOTE(Hornet @ Aug 4 2007, 09:11 PM) F***ing Alonso waited for Kimi to cross the line and he went out infront of Kimi's 2nd hot lap. That guy should be ban from F1 feel fishy when Alonso wait at pit |
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Aug 4 2007, 09:18 PM
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alonso screwed hamilton...
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Aug 4 2007, 09:18 PM
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QUOTE(ramuk @ Aug 4 2007, 09:17 PM) feel fishy when Alonso wait at pit he plan to ruin Hamilton's run |
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Aug 4 2007, 09:19 PM
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is tat ron dennis order?
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Aug 4 2007, 09:20 PM
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let wait what Lewis say about this
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Aug 4 2007, 09:21 PM
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QUOTE(Hornet @ Aug 4 2007, 09:11 PM) F***ing Alonso waited for Kimi to cross the line and he went out infront of Kimi's 2nd hot lap. That guy should be ban from F1 wahahaha.... you are totally wrong. Kimi suppose to be faster than hamilton at least on his last lap bcoz kimi had pitted twice where as hamilton managed to pit twice but his Qualifying 3 can said ends in his 2nd pit coz he cant even get a run after tat due to the time limit ended. As conclusion, McLaren are slightly faster than Ferrari. oh ya, and for the bold part, all the cars do not have an electronic map that shows the location of other cars. So how alonso knows kimi will cross the line at the time he exit the pitlane? |
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Aug 4 2007, 09:22 PM
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QUOTE(cristiano7mu @ Aug 4 2007, 09:21 PM) wahahaha.... you are totally wrong. Because they hate Alonso, enough said Kimi suppose to be faster than hamilton at least on his last lap bcoz kimi had pitted twice where as hamilton managed to pit twice but his Qualifying 3 can said ends in his 2nd pit coz he cant even get a run after tat due to the time limit ended. As conclusion, McLaren are slightly faster than Ferrari. oh ya, and for the bold part, all the cars do not have an electronic map that shows the location of other cars. So how alonso knows kimi will cross the line at the time he exit the pitlane? |
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Aug 4 2007, 09:25 PM
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QUOTE(cristiano7mu @ Aug 4 2007, 09:21 PM) wahahaha.... you are totally wrong. c'mon, he brake tested kimi throughout the fuel burning phase, that's f***ing unsportsmanlike. he exited right infront of Kimi when Kimi started his 2nd hot lap. And the plot gets thicker when Lewis, if I'm not mistaken, miss out his 2nd flying lap.Kimi suppose to be faster than hamilton at least on his last lap bcoz kimi had pitted twice where as hamilton managed to pit twice but his Qualifying 3 can said ends in his 2nd pit coz he cant even get a run after tat due to the time limit ended. As conclusion, McLaren are slightly faster than Ferrari. oh ya, and for the bold part, all the cars do not have an electronic map that shows the location of other cars. So how alonso knows kimi will cross the line at the time he exit the pitlane? Hindering your competitor is an offense against FIA rule. Hindering your own team mate? He should be shown the exit door by Ron. It's pathetic. He can't beat Lewis and had to hold him up. |
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Aug 4 2007, 09:26 PM
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they will find Alonso fault
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Aug 4 2007, 09:29 PM
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QUOTE(faris21 @ Aug 4 2007, 09:26 PM) they will find Alonso fault Sure, its fine to hold up your team mate in pits, right? |
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Aug 4 2007, 09:34 PM
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i hope Hamilton beats Alonso tomorrow!
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Aug 4 2007, 09:44 PM
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QUOTE(Hornet @ Aug 4 2007, 09:25 PM) c'mon, he brake tested kimi throughout the fuel burning phase, that's f***ing unsportsmanlike. he exited right infront of Kimi when Kimi started his 2nd hot lap. And the plot gets thicker when Lewis, if I'm not mistaken, miss out his 2nd flying lap. during the fuel burning phase?? i think alonso hold kimi for less than 5 laps coz in the 1st round pit stop, kimi entered pit lane infront of alonso. If alonso keep braking during the fuel burning phase i dont think its unsportsmanlike, Kimi can overtake alonso if he is slow. I didnt post this as a fans of alonso, but honestly i prefer hamilton more than alonso.Hindering your competitor is an offense against FIA rule. Hindering your own team mate? He should be shown the exit door by Ron. It's pathetic. He can't beat Lewis and had to hold him up. |
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Aug 4 2007, 09:48 PM
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Pole controversy in Hungary.
Fernando Alonso has taken pole position for the Hungarian Grand Prix - but only after appearing to scupper McLaren team-mate Lewis Hamilton's bid by delaying the Briton in the pit-lane. While the Spaniard went on to record the fastest time of the third qualifying session, Hamilton missed the chequered flag by four seconds, preventing him from replying after topping both the opening phases of qualifying. Hungarian GP This post has been edited by EroS: Aug 4 2007, 09:50 PM |
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Aug 4 2007, 09:51 PM
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Aug 4 2007, 09:52 PM
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QUOTE(cristiano7mu @ Aug 4 2007, 09:44 PM) during the fuel burning phase?? i think alonso hold kimi for less than 5 laps coz in the 1st round pit stop, kimi entered pit lane infront of alonso. If alonso keep braking during the fuel burning phase i dont think its unsportsmanlike, Kimi can overtake alonso if he is slow. I didnt post this as a fans of alonso, but honestly i prefer hamilton more than alonso. which Kimi did. It's not about braking, it's brake testing, which they intentionally brake earlier than the normal braking point.But it doesn't matter, Ferrari have handling issues anyway and the car isn't a front row car this week. And just for a point you mention in McLaren thread, it's not about others bashing McLaren on this incident. Nobody bash McLaren on this one. Look at how furious Ron is. |
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Aug 4 2007, 10:24 PM
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wow, first time see a BMW never get past Q2. wat happen? went to dinner juz now, kinda missed the quali, TV2 got broadcast later?
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Aug 4 2007, 10:44 PM
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QUOTE(sqwerk2 @ Aug 4 2007, 10:24 PM) wow, first time see a BMW never get past Q2. wat happen? went to dinner juz now, kinda missed the quali, TV2 got broadcast later? bmw in top 10 la if ferrari barulah btul massa car got technical problem thats y din go thru  |
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Aug 4 2007, 10:46 PM
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QUOTE(sqwerk2 @ Aug 4 2007, 10:24 PM) wow, first time see a BMW never get past Q2. wat happen? went to dinner juz now, kinda missed the quali, TV2 got broadcast later? that stupid RTM will show the delay at 12:00,hope Media Prima get a broadcast back next season,it too boring when watch F1 on Astro |
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Aug 4 2007, 10:46 PM
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acheh, i saw the saturday practice results....
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Aug 4 2007, 10:55 PM
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QUOTE(sqwerk2 @ Aug 4 2007, 10:46 PM) acheh, i saw the saturday practice results.... u really ketinggalan zaman,we will watch Massa strugle to catch front runner tomorrow |
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Aug 4 2007, 11:29 PM
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haha,. i tot u guys got update dy mah, i saw the results straight i tot is the qualifying.....
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Aug 4 2007, 11:39 PM
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McLaren is gonna dominate the race again tomorrow..
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Aug 4 2007, 11:41 PM
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QUOTE(faris21 @ Aug 4 2007, 09:20 PM) let wait what Lewis say about this Hamilton misses out after pit-lane confusionMcLaren's Lewis Hamilton was left frustrated in qualifying at the Hungaroring after he was forced to wait in the pit lane behind team mate Fernando Alonso. While Alonso went on to secure pole position, the delay meant Hamilton left the pits too late for a final flying lap. Both drivers had entered the pits in the closing stages of Q3. However, a lengthy stop for Alonso - with the Spaniard appearing to sit motionless for several seconds even after the lollipop had been raised - meant Hamilton was forced to queue behind the champion. By the time Hamilton rejoined the circuit there was insufficient time for him to complete his out-lap before the chequered flag fell. He had dominated qualifying to that point, going fastest in Q1 and Q2 and holding provisional pole until Alonso's final run, which Hamilton was left powerless to challenge. In the post-qualifying press conference, neither Alonso nor Hamilton would be drawn on details concerning the delay. The former claimed the team had held him back to gain better track position, while the latter suggested the interviewer should ask his team. McLaren boss Ron Dennis told pit-lane reporters that the team would discuss the matter.formula1.com |
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Aug 5 2007, 12:22 AM
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Stupid RTM2, already delay to 12am, now they want to delay summore because of some local orchestra nonsense
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Aug 5 2007, 12:22 AM
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source QUOTE Stewards of the Hungarian Grand Prix are to investigate Fernando Alonso's holding up of McLaren team-mate Lewis Hamilton in the pits during qualifying for tomorrow's race. The FIA summoned Ron Dennis after qualifying to call into question the affair and will now examine the team's radio communication. Let alonso start from last. |
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Aug 5 2007, 12:23 AM
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Aug 5 2007, 01:03 AM
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QUOTE(edison_84 @ Aug 5 2007, 12:22 AM) many ppl hate Alonso,u`ll must open new thread(Anti-Alonso thread) |
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Aug 5 2007, 01:07 AM
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alonso ego 2 high de.. more ppl goin anti alonso..
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Aug 5 2007, 01:11 AM
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Qualifying - driver quotes
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Aug 5 2007, 01:59 AM
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Michael was a great driver. Some loved him, others loathed him. Same goes with Alonso. Depends which side of the coin are you on. I am anti-Alonso and this gives me more reason to do so.
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Aug 5 2007, 02:03 AM
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Aug 5 2007, 02:05 AM
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QUOTE(Raikkonen @ Aug 5 2007, 02:03 AM) Naughty..naughty Alonso You mean Lewis play bumper car with Alonso and both DNF? That's the attitude of a double world champion? That's his way of winning a GP? Remind me again why most people hated Alonso Who cares...bad for his own team Lewis will do his 'naughty' on the track |
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Aug 5 2007, 02:08 AM
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Aug 5 2007, 02:11 AM
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okay, juz watched the qualifying via TV2.
overall,i think the german marques are better during qualifying, similar to nurburgring, but things might change during race day also similar to nurburgring. phew, the chase ups between kimi and nick was ok, but i really liked the part where ron dennis was pulling alonso's trainer o nthe shirt and try to ask him to clarify on the matter. |
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Aug 5 2007, 02:15 AM
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Taegoo's acting debut.
    Yellow jacket. Her bow...so cute   ahhhh    This post has been edited by Raikkonen: Sep 9 2016, 10:48 PM |
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Aug 5 2007, 02:18 AM
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i personally think it is a sign from alonso that he no longer interested to drive for mclaren anymore. there is no way he wants his employer to choose either him or hamilton. obviously we know who ron wants. IMO, tht is wat i think, from the way he walked off from ron when he tried to ask him wat really happened.
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Aug 5 2007, 02:18 AM
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Alonso attitudes will be future F1 driver role model.
Added on August 5, 2007, 2:19 am QUOTE(sqwerk2 @ Aug 5 2007, 02:18 AM) i personally think it is a sign from alonso that he no longer interested to drive for mclaren anymore. there is no way he wants his employer to choose either him or hamilton. obviously we know who ron wants. IMO, tht is wat i think, from the way he walked off from ron when he tried to ask him wat really happened. Next season he return to Renault?This post has been edited by edison_84: Aug 5 2007, 02:19 AM |
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QUOTE(edison_84 @ Aug 5 2007, 02:18 AM) Alonso attitudes will be future F1 driver role model. dunno, who knows wat is he thinking? judging from his actions just now, it looks like as if he is trying to challenge his employer.Added on August 5, 2007, 2:19 am Next season he return to Renault? |
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Aug 5 2007, 02:21 AM
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She's all grown up now.
Such a petite when she was a teenager; my siggy.           Most of her OST songs were the best A CF from the 80s for Taeyeon's dad eyeglass shop. That guy is NOT her father, just an actor turned model. I went there recently; joking [0:52] Taeyeon's all time/everyone's favorite; out of the 9 girls This post has been edited by Raikkonen: Sep 9 2016, 10:49 PM |
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it seems wierd that alonso have to wait more than half a minute to get out the first time
maybe because of this? Hammy cause the ruckus |
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Aug 5 2007, 02:23 AM
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No wonder something is missing.
Hope Psy would wrote songs for her. And the song would be a hit just like Lee Seunggi's 'Because You're My Girl'. Everytime I heard this... Evergreen. Taeyeon so beautiful with long hair. Please grow it back. Her eyelids are just.... I'm amazed and lol'ed simultaneously.     Jealous Taegoo ~     This post has been edited by Raikkonen: Sep 9 2016, 10:49 PM |
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QUOTE(sqwerk2 @ Aug 5 2007, 02:20 AM) dunno, who knows wat is he thinking? judging from his actions just now, it looks like as if he is trying to challenge his employer. Hrm... Last time many said MS bad attitudes. But compare to Alonso, MS at least better than Alonso. However, this case under investigation.. Hope the results not disappointed us, especially to anti-alonso fans. |
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Aug 5 2007, 02:26 AM
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      daily contribution to forever-kid-leadah    trending at 9PM KST YO This post has been edited by Raikkonen: Sep 9 2016, 10:52 PM |
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Aug 5 2007, 02:27 AM
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cover up story, i certainly dun believe ron dennis would explain the whole truth behind this incident. Mc's are in 1-2 position, agreed with wat ^raikonnen said, ron wouldn't be so stupid and make alonso get penalised for it.
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Aug 5 2007, 02:31 AM
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but try to see it from alonso POV
(i'm just keeping a open mind here) you're a 2 time world champion you drive very good and deserved the attention and support from the team but a young upstart comes and you actually have to carry around all this while all your prefered race data is shared all around in another words, you bring alot to team but get less in return what would you do? and @ raikonen: the quote is from the alonso mouth to a spanish newspaper, not from ron dennis saving his own a$$ quotes |
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Aug 5 2007, 02:59 AM
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The stewards should have access to the radio conversations. I'm sure they will clear everything up. But again so many here are jumping to conclusions.
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Aug 5 2007, 03:13 AM
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QUOTE(verx @ Aug 5 2007, 02:59 AM) The stewards should have access to the radio conversations. I'm sure they will clear everything up. But again so many here are jumping to conclusions. We are still open for any latest developments but so far from what I (eye) can see, Dennis fuming, lollipop up and Alonso stagnant, Alonso's trainer being "pulled by the collar". why so? We'll see. |
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Aug 5 2007, 03:16 AM
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QUOTE(kobe8byrant @ Aug 5 2007, 03:13 AM) We are still open for any latest developments but so far from what I (eye) can see, Dennis fuming, lollipop up and Alonso stagnant, Alonso's trainer being "pulled by the collar". why so? We'll see. Well Dennis did release a statement regarding the issue. But many choose to ignore it. I know it's Ronspeak and it should be taken with a grain of salt but at least it's still something. Besides normally drivers don't decide when they leave the pits. Their race engineer makes that decision. |
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Aug 5 2007, 03:20 AM
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QUOTE(verx @ Aug 5 2007, 03:16 AM) Well Dennis did release a statement regarding the issue. But many choose to ignore it. I know it's Ronspeak and it should be taken with a grain of salt but at least it's still something. Besides normally drivers don't decide when they leave the pits. Their race engineer makes that decision. I know Ron made a statement and I am sorry if you find my views biased but even being objective, if Alonso were to be guilty, surely Ron will not come out and say so and ruin his team's chances of a possible 1-2 finish by saying Alonso was guilty of so and so which would almost certainly relegate him to the back! And yes, usually race engineers make THAT decision but surely with that little time, Dennis must have briefed them saying that in such a situation, the main thing is that both drivers manage to set times. I find it hard to believe that the race engineer would not have practiced common sense in letting BOTH drivers from the same team to set times rather than Alonso solely setting a good time in the expense of Hamilton. Then again, when we have a Ferrari running out of fuel, what gives? |
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Aug 5 2007, 03:27 AM
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QUOTE(kobe8byrant @ Aug 5 2007, 03:20 AM) I know Ron made a statement and I am sorry if you find my views biased but even being objective, if Alonso were to be guilty, surely Ron will not come out and say so and ruin his team's chances of a possible 1-2 finish by saying Alonso was guilty of so and so which would almost certainly relegate him to the back! And yes, usually race engineers make THAT decision but surely with that little time, Dennis must have briefed them saying that in such a situation, the main thing is that both drivers manage to set times. I find it hard to believe that the race engineer would not have practiced common sense in letting BOTH drivers from the same team to set times rather than Alonso solely setting a good time in the expense of Hamilton. Good points. I think the race engineer was being abit naughty there but we'll just wait and see.Then again, when we have a Ferrari running out of fuel, what gives? What happened with Massa anyway? |
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Aug 5 2007, 06:50 AM
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Alonso stripped of the Hungarian Pole
Alonso will start from 6th position and mclaren can't score any constructers point on this race. This post has been edited by Creative: Aug 5 2007, 06:54 AM |
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Aug 5 2007, 08:36 AM
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Aug 5 2007, 09:12 AM
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kudos to the race stewards for taking this move....so happy!
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Aug 5 2007, 10:10 AM
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Evening Who? By the way, Taeng's going to release her solo album soon. Finally Hope it'll broke all records charts and sales. And Taeng finally made it big in Japan and/or China. Taeng's instagram has more 3.4 million followers. Taeyeon’s Solo Album Currently in the Works. http://www.soompi.com/2015/02/01/girls-gen...y-in-the-works/ It has been reported that Girls’ Generation member Taeyeon is in the middle of gearing up for a new solo album. Aiming for a release in the first half of the year, she is currently gathering songs to be included in the album. If all goes according to plan, Taeyeon will be the very first member of Girls’ Generation to make her debut as a solo artist. Taeyeon has already received much recognition from the public for her vocal abilities with a number of solo songs through drama OSTs, such as “If,” “Can You Hear Me,” and more. It is said that the Girls’ Generation member is joining the list of idols from SM Entertainment to take on a solo debut following SHINee’s Taemin, Super Junior’s Kyuhyun, SHINee’s Jonghyun, as well as f(x)’s Amber, who is expected to release a solo album next month. Are you excited to see Taeyeon debut as a solo artist in the near future?   ★˚ * ˜”*°• 2014 World Champion •°*”˜˚ * ✰ ♥ The Sinosphere - Awesome ♥ ★˚ * ˜”°• Jeon Ha-Ri •°”˜˚ * ★ ✰ 싱글파파는 열애중 ✰Praying for the day someone would adore me; the way Jeon Ha-Ri did.     This post has been edited by Raikkonen: Sep 9 2016, 11:03 PM |
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Aug 5 2007, 10:15 AM
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Awwww...
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Aug 5 2007, 10:26 AM
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QUOTE(verx @ Aug 5 2007, 03:16 AM) Well Dennis did release a statement regarding the issue. But many choose to ignore it. I know it's Ronspeak and it should be taken with a grain of salt but at least it's still something. Besides normally drivers don't decide when they leave the pits. Their race engineer makes that decision. If it was the team's decision, everyone would have remain clam. They didn't. They were caught by surprise on Alonso's action. After all, this is McLaren, the team with both their driver at the front of the championship hunt. I don't believe they would make any timing mistake that cost Lewis his 2nd hot lap, no way that will happen. Even the back end teams doesn't make such mistake.Of course at the same time, Ron cannot come out and say their drivers are killing each other. What alonso did wasn't good for the team's image. |
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Aug 5 2007, 10:28 AM
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Aug 5 2007, 10:29 AM
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QUOTE(Creative @ Aug 5 2007, 06:50 AM) Alonso stripped of the Hungarian Pole I think that's a little harsh on the team though. Unless the entire team plotted against Lewis (which I don't think so), they shouldn't be punish. Instead, Alonso should be the one not allow to score points. Should have sent Alonso to the back of the grid.Alonso will start from 6th position and mclaren can't score any constructers point on this race. |
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Aug 5 2007, 10:32 AM
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Aug 5 2007, 10:32 AM
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QUOTE(Hornet @ Aug 5 2007, 10:29 AM) I think that's a little harsh on the team though. Unless the entire team plotted against Lewis (which I don't think so), they shouldn't be punish. Instead, Alonso should be the one not allow to score points. Should have sent Alonso to the back of the grid. He is the 2 times WDC afterall.... What can be done about it... |
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Aug 5 2007, 11:01 AM
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QUOTE(Hornet @ Aug 5 2007, 10:29 AM) I think that's a little harsh on the team though. Unless the entire team plotted against Lewis (which I don't think so), they shouldn't be punish. Instead, Alonso should be the one not allow to score points. Should have sent Alonso to the back of the grid. I too agree that Alonso's car solely should be punished and therefore, he should be either sent to the back or disqualified from this race. It was just disgusting with the excuses and blaming on the team. Schumacher was crucified, now Alonso's taste of it. |
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Aug 5 2007, 11:11 AM
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QUOTE(Raikkonen @ Aug 5 2007, 10:28 AM) What was he thinking? Do you mean he caused Kimi his pole ?He must have known that this sort of act would definitely jeopardize his world champion's fight. Did you guys see what he did to Kimi in Q3? He slowed down...and when Kimi tried to overtake he shuts the door...Kimi was hard on the brakes. What is wrong with this guy? This post has been edited by karhoe: Aug 5 2007, 11:11 AM |
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Aug 5 2007, 11:13 AM
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uh last time this happen to michael and if i'm not wrogn the penalty was way worse rite?
its obvious why people hated alonso - crybaby - showoff when winning - selfish (even to his own teammate) Added on August 5, 2007, 11:14 ambtw "McLaren have also been pre-emptively stripped of any constructors championship points they might earn from the race." from http://www.f1-live.com/f1/en/headlines/new...805001402.shtml means they wont get any constructor points??? This post has been edited by evofantasy: Aug 5 2007, 11:14 AM |
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Aug 5 2007, 11:16 AM
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I believe, if there was no penalty at all.
Hamilton will really teach Alonso a lesson, during the first corner. He will drive super aggressively, just like Senna vs Prost Added on August 5, 2007, 11:18 am QUOTE(evofantasy @ Aug 5 2007, 11:13 AM) uh last time this happen to michael and if i'm not wrogn the penalty was way worse rite? If not ?its obvious why people hated alonso - crybaby - showoff when winning - selfish (even to his own teammate) Added on August 5, 2007, 11:14 ambtw "McLaren have also been pre-emptively stripped of any constructors championship points they might earn from the race." from http://www.f1-live.com/f1/en/headlines/new...805001402.shtml means they wont get any constructor points??? This post has been edited by karhoe: Aug 5 2007, 11:18 AM |
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Aug 5 2007, 11:18 AM
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QUOTE(karhoe @ Aug 5 2007, 11:16 AM) I believe, if there was no penalty at all. If Alonso and Hamilton involved in any race incidents, Alonso will be huntedHamilton will really teach Alonso a lesson, during the first corner. He will drive super aggressively, just like Senna vs Prost Added on August 5, 2007, 11:18 am If not ? |
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Aug 5 2007, 11:19 AM
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QUOTE(kobe8byrant @ Aug 5 2007, 11:18 AM) If Alonso and Hamilton involved in any race incidents, Alonso will be hunted Yet, he dared to do this Short lived joy This post has been edited by karhoe: Aug 5 2007, 11:19 AM |
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Aug 5 2007, 11:21 AM
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QUOTE(karhoe @ Aug 5 2007, 11:16 AM) I believe, if there was no penalty at all. Latest version--> Massa vs ALonso at Spain GP. Hamilton will really teach Alonso a lesson, during the first corner. He will drive super aggressively, just like Senna vs Prost Added on August 5, 2007, 11:18 am If not ? Lucky to Alonso, he didn't get any punishment from held up Kimi, prevent him to get good lap time. |
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Aug 5 2007, 11:25 AM
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QUOTE(edison_84 @ Aug 5 2007, 11:21 AM) Latest version--> Massa vs ALonso at Spain GP. Surprisingly, Hamilton is a gentleman, you never see him raising his temper before. If he had, surely he had approached Alonso and quarreled with him. ( or perhaps he got no balls Lucky to Alonso, he didn't get any punishment from held up Kimi, prevent him to get good lap time. ) |
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Aug 5 2007, 11:28 AM
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QUOTE(evofantasy @ Aug 5 2007, 11:13 AM) uh last time this happen to michael and if i'm not wrogn the penalty was way worse rite? Yes. drivers will still get their points, but not the team.its obvious why people hated alonso - crybaby - showoff when winning - selfish (even to his own teammate) Added on August 5, 2007, 11:14 ambtw "McLaren have also been pre-emptively stripped of any constructors championship points they might earn from the race." from http://www.f1-live.com/f1/en/headlines/new...805001402.shtml means they wont get any constructor points??? Anyway McLaren will appeal that decision on the points. Their problem is they do not admit that alonso did it on purpose, so that means they lied and their reason not accepted by the stewards. Had they not do that, I think they would have not gotten that penalty. Maybe the will appeal and admit that Alonso did this on his own and the team wasn't involve in it. |
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Aug 5 2007, 11:31 AM
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QUOTE(karhoe @ Aug 5 2007, 11:25 AM) Surprisingly, Hamilton is a gentleman, you never see him raising his temper before. If he had, surely he had approached Alonso and quarreled with him. ( or perhaps he got no balls IMHO, although he is the future WDC, he perform well in his first F1 season, but he still a new comer in F1. If he over react, this will give bad image to audience and supporters. ) |
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Aug 5 2007, 11:32 AM
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If Ferrari can't win it, which is more likely by the race, then I want Hamilton.
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Aug 5 2007, 11:33 AM
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Aug 5 2007, 11:35 AM
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Anyone knows why 5? I seem 5 to be too lenient. Even despite the fact I loathe him.
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Aug 5 2007, 11:37 AM
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QUOTE(Creative @ Aug 5 2007, 06:50 AM) Alonso stripped of the Hungarian Pole nice.. Alonso will start from 6th position and mclaren can't score any constructers point on this race. looks like hamilton will b on da podium again.. |
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Aug 5 2007, 11:48 AM
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QUOTE(EroS @ Aug 5 2007, 11:37 AM) nice.. And hope Hamilton can win this year WDC (but my first choice of cause Ferrari drivers) , to show Alonso that he can win WDC in clean and legal way. looks like hamilton will b on da podium again.. |
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Aug 5 2007, 12:11 PM
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QUOTE(Raikkonen @ Aug 5 2007, 10:10 AM) So, the grid from pole to sixth would be: The revised: 1. Hamilton 2. Heidfeld 3. Raikkonen 4. Rosberg 5. R.Schumacher 6. Alonso The original: 1. Alonso 2. Hamilton 3. Heidfeld 4. Raikkonen 5. Rosberg 6. R.Schumacher Correct? now advantage back 2 kimi...hope he can jump the BMW at the start |
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Aug 5 2007, 12:14 PM
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the advantage is also on the BMW as well, hope he can retain number 2 at least or do anything possible to win hamilton.
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Aug 5 2007, 12:16 PM
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i doubt bmw got the raw pace 4 the long term 2 even keep up with ferrari n mclaren
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Aug 5 2007, 12:20 PM
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QUOTE(skylinegtr34rule4life @ Aug 5 2007, 12:16 PM) i doubt bmw got the raw pace 4 the long term 2 even keep up with ferrari n mclaren i think they are very light in fuel loads durin quallyand always the first to come in pits in the race,among the 3 top team This post has been edited by advanced: Aug 5 2007, 12:22 PM |
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Aug 5 2007, 12:21 PM
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QUOTE(skylinegtr34rule4life @ Aug 5 2007, 12:16 PM) i doubt bmw got the raw pace 4 the long term 2 even keep up with ferrari n mclaren Any possibility for BMW to ruin Mclaren race result? Just like Nurburg GP |
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Aug 5 2007, 12:28 PM
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Alonso denies gamesmanship
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Aug 5 2007, 02:33 PM
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QUOTE(Raikkonen @ Aug 5 2007, 12:28 PM) Remember last year at Monza, when Massa accused him from helding him up? That was a very different situation. Everyone who saw that race knew that Alonso didn't hold Massa up as he was way in front of him.And when FIA decided a penalty...most people said FIA biased etc.? This stunt he did at Lewis IS PROOF that he DID held people up. I'm not happy with the stewards' decision. Stripping constructors' points..wtf This post has been edited by verx: Aug 5 2007, 02:33 PM |
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Aug 5 2007, 02:40 PM
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QUOTE(verx @ Aug 5 2007, 02:33 PM) That was a very different situation. Everyone who saw that race knew that Alonso didn't hold Massa up as he was way in front of him. I too am not pleased with the decision to be honest but I think the FIA felt that McLaren as a team conspired with Alonso on the decision based on preceding statements made by various people. But I must say, if Alonso were to be sent to the back or disqualified, I would have felt that it would have been a just decision.I'm not happy with the stewards' decision. Stripping constructors' points..wtf |
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Aug 5 2007, 02:47 PM
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QUOTE(kobe8byrant @ Aug 5 2007, 02:40 PM) I too am not pleased with the decision to be honest but I think the FIA felt that McLaren as a team conspired with Alonso on the decision based on preceding statements made by various people. But I must say, if Alonso were to be sent to the back or disqualified, I would have felt that it would have been a just decision. We had a qualifying strategy gone totally wrong and it blew up in our faces. Demote Alonso 5 places; fair enough, i accept that. But to strip points is ridiculous. Regardless what the FIA think it's still McLaren's internal problem. |
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Aug 5 2007, 02:50 PM
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QUOTE(verx @ Aug 5 2007, 02:47 PM) We had a qualifying strategy gone totally wrong and it blew up in our faces. Demote Alonso 5 places; fair enough, i accept that. But to strip points is ridiculous. Regardless what the FIA think it's still McLaren's internal problem. The Alonso-Hamilton row (whatever friction there is) is an internal problem but not allowing FAIR PLAY is wrong in F1, thus making it the FIA's problem. Even if it is against a teammate. Michael being allowed to win after team orders similarly can be said to be an internal problem but it was against sportsmanship. Stripping the team of constructor championship points is indeed harsh but I disagree with your views on "internal problem".This post has been edited by kobe8byrant: Aug 5 2007, 02:55 PM |
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Aug 5 2007, 03:14 PM
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i think yesterday controversial pole by alonso + punishment by the stewards = bad name for mclaren
surely this will have some impact on the spying court case i think ron should focus more on solving the on going fire between his drivers than keep blasting ferrari of cheating..... bla bla bla  |
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Aug 5 2007, 04:02 PM
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it is true Alonso will start from 6 grid,formula1.com dont tell anything about this
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Aug 5 2007, 04:07 PM
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wait, so the punishment means tht mclaren will not be scoring any points for today's race regardless of wat position the drivers finished?
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QUOTE(faris21 @ Aug 5 2007, 04:02 PM) it is true Alonso will start from 6 grid,formula1.com dont tell anything about this but you can refer to gpupdate.net |
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so, anyone knows where will Alonso start? Can't find anything on this...
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Aug 5 2007, 04:10 PM
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QUOTE(young_soul @ Aug 5 2007, 04:08 PM) so, anyone knows where will Alonso start? Can't find anything on this... its confirmed lah weihttp://www.formula1.com/news/headlines/2007/8/6594.html |
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QUOTE(sqwerk2 @ Aug 5 2007, 04:07 PM) wait, so the punishment means tht mclaren will not be scoring any points for today's race regardless of wat position the drivers finished? Points in Driver Championship still valid, no points for Constructor's Championship. |
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Sunday race preview - McLaren will be hard to beat
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Aug 5 2007, 04:39 PM
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I think myself hate Alonso a lot, but seem like other hate him a lot more than I did. LOL...
Honestly the rivalry in McLaren should be left alone for them to solve it. Its kinda sad to see Alonso being penalised for something like that. As much as you would hate him, he is a pretty good driver. If FIA wants fair play then dont make this kind of qualifying. Resort to the old method whereby everyone qualify one by one. This should solve the matter. Fair play? Come on.. |
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Aug 5 2007, 04:40 PM
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6th only ar...no point lo...
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Aug 5 2007, 05:01 PM
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QUOTE(kapitan @ Aug 5 2007, 04:39 PM) I think myself hate Alonso a lot, but seem like other hate him a lot more than I did. LOL... sometime qualify one by one is not fair,i mean by when first driver come out to flying lap,he use dry tyre,after he finish his hot lap,rain begin to fall,this mean 2nd-22th driver need make hot lap on wet track,this happen at Australian`05 which Fisi,Webber,Trulli and Jacques have an advantageHonestly the rivalry in McLaren should be left alone for them to solve it. Its kinda sad to see Alonso being penalised for something like that. As much as you would hate him, he is a pretty good driver. If FIA wants fair play then dont make this kind of qualifying. Resort to the old method whereby everyone qualify one by one. This should solve the matter. Fair play? Come on.. |
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Aug 5 2007, 05:20 PM
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Somehow, I feel that Alonso will have a hard time with R.Schumacher and Rosberg, and Massa will take this opportunity to engage himself in a dogfight with Alonso.
Then we might be able to see some car bumping, or one of them makan pasir, as well as a post-race Massa Vs Alonso - Episode II |
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Aug 5 2007, 05:22 PM
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QUOTE(faris21 @ Aug 5 2007, 05:01 PM) sometime qualify one by one is not fair,i mean by when first driver come out to flying lap,he use dry tyre,after he finish his hot lap,rain begin to fall,this mean 2nd-22th driver need make hot lap on wet track,this happen at Australian`05 which Fisi,Webber,Trulli and Jacques have an advantage I prefer the old format.. 12 laps in 1 hour... |
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Aug 5 2007, 05:23 PM
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QUOTE(kobe8byrant @ Aug 5 2007, 02:50 PM) The Alonso-Hamilton row (whatever friction there is) is an internal problem but not allowing FAIR PLAY is wrong in F1, thus making it the FIA's problem. Even if it is against a teammate. Michael being allowed to win after team orders similarly can be said to be an internal problem but it was against sportsmanship. Stripping the team of constructor championship points is indeed harsh but I disagree with your views on "internal problem". I dunno but i find the 2 situations very different. Alonso was not ordered to stay there. McLaren did not conspire against Hamilton. Why would they? He's their own driver. A British driver no less. Any gamesmanship by Alonso or his engineer is purely the fault of Alonso's camp. McLaren should not be penalised for allowing their drivers to race competitively. |
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Aug 5 2007, 05:32 PM
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I thought the purpose of the new format is to create more drama in the qualifying session. Before this, the qualifying session is just like practice sessions
Added on August 5, 2007, 5:33 pmI find the new engine rule pure ridiculous Initially, they said that the purpose of the new engine rules is to safe cost. But this year, they said that new engine can be used for practice purposes. But the engine which was brought from the last race must be used from qualifying onwards. In the end, each team used around 2 race per weekend. This post has been edited by karhoe: Aug 5 2007, 05:33 PM |
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Aug 5 2007, 05:34 PM
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QUOTE(verx @ Aug 5 2007, 05:23 PM) I dunno but i find the 2 situations very different. Alonso was not ordered to stay there. McLaren did not conspire against Hamilton. Why would they? He's their own driver. A British driver no less. Any gamesmanship by Alonso or his engineer is purely the fault of Alonso's camp. McLaren should not be penalised for allowing their drivers to race competitively. Was allowing Schumacher to win an act of sporting injustice in Barri's case? In that case, the team ordered Barri to let Michael through. Same case applies where as in this case Alonso obstructed a racing driver an opportunity to set a time. I have said earlier that I felt that McLaren do not deserve the penalty but Alonso does Added on August 5, 2007, 5:34 pm QUOTE(evoHahn @ Aug 5 2007, 05:22 PM) I prefer the old format.. 12 laps in 1 hour... I think the current format is amazing. The old format was shite. All the action in last few minutes This post has been edited by kobe8byrant: Aug 5 2007, 05:36 PM |
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Aug 5 2007, 05:43 PM
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QUOTE(kobe8byrant @ Aug 5 2007, 05:34 PM) Was allowing Schumacher to win an act of sporting injustice in Barri's case? In that case, the team ordered Barri to let Michael through. Same case applies where as in this case Alonso obstructed a racing driver an opportunity to set a time. I have said earlier that I felt that McLaren do not deserve the penalty but Alonso does Well as i said i find the situation different because there Ferrari made that order while in this case McLaren did not do this on purpose. It's just gamesmanship from Alonso. It's not fair i agree. He was just pissed off at Hamilton botching his qualy strategy.QUOTE I think the current format is amazing. The old format was shite. All the action in last few minutes Agree with u here. The old format was retarded. But i still prefer the free for all format. This fuel burning thing does not sit well with me. |
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Aug 5 2007, 05:48 PM
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QUOTE(verx @ Aug 5 2007, 05:43 PM) Well as i said i find the situation different because there Ferrari made that order while in this case McLaren did not do this on purpose. It's just gamesmanship from Alonso. It's not fair i agree. He was just pissed off at Hamilton botching his qualy strategy. 1) As I said, I believe that this cannot be just dismissed as an internal problem and I gave the Ferrari example as that team orders whatsoever was also within the Ferrari camp but that too have repercussions. Though that was concerning team orders and this isn't, it still encompasses unsporting conduct, at least to me.Agree with u here. The old format was retarded. But i still prefer the free for all format. This fuel burning thing does not sit well with me. I think the FIA were harsh on McLaren but lenient on Alonso. Schumacher Monaco comes to mind. 2) Regarding Q3, well fuel burn is a waste of fuel (which is against the FIA environmental stance, I believe ) but if you can think of any other way to create unpredictability for race day, post them to the FIA |
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Aug 5 2007, 05:52 PM
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Must had happened to us at least once; earphone slipped to the ground
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Aug 5 2007, 06:05 PM
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Hill: Alonso not a team player
QUOTE He certainly showed he's not prepared to play a team game if it's at his expense. I think it was a very selfish thing to do. QUOTE "They are going to have to work very hard to try and convince the world that there are not two camps in the McLaren team." source |
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Aug 5 2007, 06:07 PM
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http://www.f1-live.com/f1/en/headlines/new...805105554.shtml
an extract The British newspaper Sunday Mirror, meanwhile, published details of the heated radio argument Hamilton had with boss Ron Dennis after the incident. Hamilton: "Don't ever f---ing do that to me again." Dennis: "Don't f---ing talk to me like that." Hamilton: "You can go and f---ing swivel." LOL WUT! |
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Aug 5 2007, 06:09 PM
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I think that's it; all my favorite and final pictures
Will post it at SSF as well...a farewell gift. And oh....farewell video too. Collection of pictures at http://belovedtaeyeon.minus.com Hope to reach 10,000 pictures; 3,500 at the moment. Other users have 28,000.        This post has been edited by Raikkonen: Sep 9 2016, 11:10 PM |
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Aug 5 2007, 06:10 PM
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QUOTE(james2306 @ Aug 5 2007, 06:07 PM) http://www.f1-live.com/f1/en/headlines/new...805105554.shtml Wow... an extract The British newspaper Sunday Mirror, meanwhile, published details of the heated radio argument Hamilton had with boss Ron Dennis after the incident. Hamilton: "Don't ever f---ing do that to me again." Dennis: "Don't f---ing talk to me like that." Hamilton: "You can go and f---ing swivel." LOL WUT! Guess this is part 2 Part 1 Alonso vs Massa Part 2 Dennis vs Hamilton. |
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Aug 5 2007, 06:12 PM
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QUOTE(Raikkonen @ Aug 5 2007, 06:09 PM) Fisico's the next victim well, cant trust the british tabloids anyway, but thats effin funnay... Fisichella demoted five positions Yamamoto block earns a penalty Link ~ http://www.f1-live.com Stewards on a rampage this weekend Kidding me? No way lah...he's cool during PC...besides Hamilton respect Dennis that much. yea, stewards havin dun this weekend... hopefully we have an action filled race |
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Aug 5 2007, 06:15 PM
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QUOTE(Raikkonen @ Aug 5 2007, 06:09 PM) Fisico's the next victim Alonso leave the team Fisichella demoted five positions Yamamoto block earns a penalty Link ~ http://www.f1-live.com Stewards on a rampage this weekend Kidding me? No way lah...he's cool during PC...besides Hamilton respect Dennis that much. If he did...there's a possibility he'll leave the team Now Hamilton also leave the team, who going to drive Mclaren? Dennis himself? jk..I don't think he'll leave the team, but internal problem has been raise up after this incident. |
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Aug 5 2007, 06:19 PM
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Aftning
Antara gambar2 favorite aku Aku baru jumpa lepas delete satu2...jadi nak share untuk kali terakhir.          This post has been edited by Raikkonen: Sep 9 2016, 11:12 PM |
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Aug 5 2007, 06:25 PM
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actually, my couz sis saw a post race conference a few races back and she told me that hamilton "LOOKS" gay.. LOL!
she said hamilton wuz wearing lip stick and eyeliner or eye-sumthing...hahaha... i tried defending hamilton but my mum came in the room and portrayed her suspicion regarding this matter all along too i just kept quiet after that |
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Aug 5 2007, 06:37 PM
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Antara sebab kenapa dia awesome...lain dari yang lain.
Selalu suka main2...tu yang best tu. Tu pasal ramai suka dia. Antara nikmat yang Dia anugerahkan kat Taeyeon.      This post has been edited by Raikkonen: Sep 9 2016, 11:12 PM |
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Aug 5 2007, 07:01 PM
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Mclaren might take the World Contructor's Champ. but with bittergourd's smile. what a pity for them...
Ron Dennis have to go back and start his Degree in Management. |
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Aug 5 2007, 07:09 PM
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Dennis admits difficult relationship with Alonso
http://www.f1-live.com/f1/en/headlines/new...805115530.shtml "We are trying to improve our relationship," Dennis told the Spanish media in Hungary before the 'pit-gate' controversy was sparked. Added on August 5, 2007, 7:10 pmTHE "PIT-GATE" scandal... aahahahahah This post has been edited by james2306: Aug 5 2007, 07:10 PM |
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Aug 5 2007, 07:16 PM
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QUOTE(kobe8byrant @ Aug 5 2007, 05:34 PM) Added on August 5, 2007, 5:34 pm I think the current format is amazing. The old format was shite. All the action in last few minutes Added on August 5, 2007, 7:17 pm QUOTE(verx @ Aug 5 2007, 05:43 PM) Well as i said i find the situation different because there Ferrari made that order while in this case McLaren did not do this on purpose. It's just gamesmanship from Alonso. It's not fair i agree. He was just pissed off at Hamilton botching his qualy strategy. retarded in what sense?Agree with u here. The old format was retarded. But i still prefer the free for all format. This fuel burning thing does not sit well with me. Added on August 5, 2007, 7:22 pm QUOTE(jacky5283 @ Aug 5 2007, 07:01 PM) Mclaren might take the World Contructor's Champ. but with bittergourd's smile. what a pity for them... please google the background of Ron Dennis and how he started in F1 and why the McLaren cars have MP4 designation and not M before bad mouthing him... Ron Dennis have to go back and start his Degree in Management. This post has been edited by evoHahn: Aug 5 2007, 07:22 PM |
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Aug 5 2007, 07:26 PM
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McLaren statement
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Aug 5 2007, 07:32 PM
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QUOTE(binary @ Aug 5 2007, 07:26 PM) McLaren statement a face saving statement i guess... » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « So, meaning not Alonso fault? |
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Aug 5 2007, 07:37 PM
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@Evo, but in Q1 and Q2, there's action as well. There's competition at every end. If we were to follow the last format, not many will tune into the first 40 minutes as who would care for a Minardi?
But now, I tune in with glee. |
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Aug 5 2007, 07:42 PM
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QUOTE(kobe8byrant @ Aug 5 2007, 07:37 PM) @Evo, but in Q1 and Q2, there's action as well. There's competition at every end. If we were to follow the last format, not many will tune into the first 40 minutes as who would care for a Minardi? LOL ... because the track get grippier and cleaner at the end of the session. Luckily the Q3 is 15 minutes now.. But now, I tune in with glee. |
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Aug 5 2007, 08:02 PM
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Damon Hill on the ITV commentator team!
Martin Brundle is absent |
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Aug 5 2007, 08:07 PM
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Those who believe in fair play is very naive IMO.
Alonso is the senior and he's the one providing the data while Hamilton just using it. If the team is responsible for that, then the drivers should listen to their boss and we wont have this drama going on. |
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Aug 5 2007, 08:08 PM
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Lewis pulling away from Raikkoen...
Almost 3 secs now |
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Aug 5 2007, 08:14 PM
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"McLaren will also be docked all constructors' points from the race after the stewards refused to accept the team's explanations into the controversy that has overshadowed the event."
means mclaren won't get any points but the drivers will get points??? |
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Aug 5 2007, 08:16 PM
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Freakin Hell!
Lewis just clock a 1:20:8 !! He is flying out there!!! |
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Aug 5 2007, 08:25 PM
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QUOTE(navilink @ Aug 5 2007, 08:14 PM) "McLaren will also be docked all constructors' points from the race after the stewards refused to accept the team's explanations into the controversy that has overshadowed the event." yup. no constructors' pointsmeans mclaren won't get any points but the drivers will get points??? |
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Aug 5 2007, 08:26 PM
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What happen to Alonso? His gap between leader already 25sec...
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Aug 5 2007, 09:04 PM
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come on BMW!!!
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Aug 5 2007, 09:44 PM
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Congrats. Hamilton. Good race from Hamilton and Kimi too.
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Aug 5 2007, 09:47 PM
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congrats Hamilton...well deserved! so happy that Alonso did not get a podium...
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Aug 5 2007, 09:48 PM
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Congrats Hamilton.
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Aug 5 2007, 09:49 PM
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y only 1 anthem played during podium presentation?
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Aug 5 2007, 09:50 PM
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QUOTE(cristiano7mu @ Aug 5 2007, 09:49 PM) y only 1 anthem played during podium presentation? Because the McLaren team doesnt exist. |
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Aug 5 2007, 09:51 PM
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QUOTE(cristiano7mu @ Aug 5 2007, 09:49 PM) y only 1 anthem played during podium presentation? because Lewis is british and McLaren is a British team.Congrats Lewis Good job McLaren |
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Aug 5 2007, 09:51 PM
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nice job too Heidfeld and Kubica, scoring more points for BMW!!!
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Aug 5 2007, 09:53 PM
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Result for the Hungary GP
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Aug 5 2007, 09:54 PM
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tis is 1 slow race.. usually onli takes around 1 hours & 30 minutes 2 finish..
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Aug 5 2007, 09:55 PM
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so pity to Massa,he stuck for whole laps
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Aug 5 2007, 10:03 PM
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i didn watch the race. wats wrong with Massa?
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Aug 5 2007, 10:07 PM
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QUOTE(death mask @ Aug 5 2007, 10:03 PM) i didn watch the race. wats wrong with Massa? Start from 14, with 2 pit strategies, hard/soft/hard.IMHO, he cant finish the race with soft tires, as its too soft. Few racers has complained about this before during practice session. |
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Aug 5 2007, 10:09 PM
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QUOTE(death mask @ Aug 5 2007, 10:03 PM) i didn watch the race. wats wrong with Massa? Hungaroring circuit not so wide,so Massa just have chace to overtake during the pitstop |
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Aug 5 2007, 10:37 PM
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Congratz to Lewis hamilton. A well deserve win.
and starsports is more like a commercial channel, with F1 broadcast as their break. |
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Aug 5 2007, 10:40 PM
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as kimi said, the hungaroring is kinda boring track... since the chance of overtaking is merely 0, i cant find any interesting moments during the race... omos fell asleep... but good is tat lewis won the race!!! tats enough to keep me awake! hehe...
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Aug 5 2007, 10:44 PM
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QUOTE(Jasonist @ Aug 5 2007, 10:40 PM) as kimi said, the hungaroring is kinda boring track... since the chance of overtaking is merely 0, i cant find any interesting moments during the race... omos fell asleep... yeah really boring,not many incident we can watch,Nick-Fernando battle is the interesting moments during the race for me |
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Aug 5 2007, 11:37 PM
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QUOTE(faris21 @ Aug 5 2007, 10:44 PM) yeah really boring,not many incident we can watch,Nick-Fernando battle is the interesting moments during the race for me Next race is in Instabul. A lot of overtaking zones on the circuit and hope we can see some intresting battle on the circuit. |
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Aug 5 2007, 11:42 PM
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yeah,Istanbul is anti-clock circuit,driver will have big problem with g-force at turn 8-11
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Aug 5 2007, 11:47 PM
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i oso hope next race michael sam kok seng and daniel chan yan nang can commentate together for the cantonese language too... this race they come up with this singaporean cantonese commentator kinda boring le... i wonder wheres daniel?
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Aug 6 2007, 12:19 AM
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Good job Hamilton, i missed the starting, sigh, didn't know how alonso end up in 6 place in the 1st stint
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Aug 6 2007, 12:22 AM
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QUOTE(bysquashy @ Aug 6 2007, 12:19 AM) Good job Hamilton, i missed the starting, sigh, didn't know how alonso end up in 6 place in the 1st stint bcos he starting from 6th on the grid |
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Aug 6 2007, 12:25 AM
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congrats to hamilton, he did it again. what a young gun..
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Aug 6 2007, 12:45 AM
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Aug 6 2007, 12:47 AM
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QUOTE(james2306 @ Aug 5 2007, 06:07 PM) http://www.f1-live.com/f1/en/headlines/new...805105554.shtml in reply to the abovean extract The British newspaper Sunday Mirror, meanwhile, published details of the heated radio argument Hamilton had with boss Ron Dennis after the incident. Hamilton: "Don't ever f---ing do that to me again." Dennis: "Don't f---ing talk to me like that." Hamilton: "You can go and f---ing swivel." LOL WUT! Hamilton says sorry for Hungarian goulash http://www.f1-live.com/f1/en/headlines/new...805171623.shtml ahahah, it is TRUE!! |
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Aug 6 2007, 12:49 AM
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DRIVER STANDINGS
01 Lewis Hamilton........80 02 Fernando Alonso......73 03 Kimi Rikknen.......60 04 Felipe Massa...........59 05 Nick Heidfeld...........42 06 Robert Kubica.........28 CONSTRUCTOR STANDINGS 01 McLaren-Mercedes.....138 02 Ferrari......................119 03 BMW..........................71 04 Renault......................33 05 Williams-Toyota..........20 06 Red Bull-Renault.........16 |
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Aug 6 2007, 12:53 AM
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QUOTE(james2306 @ Aug 6 2007, 12:47 AM) in reply to the above LOL i like IT Hamilton says sorry for Hungarian goulash http://www.f1-live.com/f1/en/headlines/new...805171623.shtml ahahah, it is TRUE!! |
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Aug 6 2007, 12:53 AM
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how about alonso? didnt apologize to ron & lewis?
the double world champion must be feeling the pressure more than ever now |
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Aug 6 2007, 12:56 AM
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Aug 6 2007, 01:01 AM
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Hungarian Grand Prix - Driver quotes
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Aug 6 2007, 01:02 AM
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QUOTE(faris21 @ Aug 6 2007, 12:49 AM) DRIVER STANDINGS cham.... seems like Kimi no chance of getting WDC this year alredi....01 Lewis Hamilton........80 02 Fernando Alonso......73 03 Kimi Rikknen.......60 04 Felipe Massa...........59 05 Nick Heidfeld...........42 06 Robert Kubica.........28 CONSTRUCTOR STANDINGS 01 McLaren-Mercedes.....138 02 Ferrari......................119 03 BMW..........................71 04 Renault......................33 05 Williams-Toyota..........20 06 Red Bull-Renault.........16 |
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Aug 6 2007, 01:05 AM
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still possible haha...
20 points gap after all... but even if he dun wint WDC as long as he's in front of alonse can d XD... dun mind hamilton winning cause he deserves it... now ferrari need win WCC!!! |
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Aug 6 2007, 01:05 AM
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QUOTE(RyonanGT @ Aug 6 2007, 01:02 AM) cham.... seems like Kimi no chance of getting WDC this year alredi.... No chance, i will say its hard to clinch the WDC title..... if not impossible |
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Aug 6 2007, 01:06 AM
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Made this a while back. Collection of her IG pictures and videos from 18th March 2013 till 17th August 2013. In case anyone wants it. Takpelah...inshallah, dalam syurga dapat gak Taeyeon  Setiap kali kita terpandang bidadari syurga, ibarat kita melihat buat pertama kalinya; terpesona. Contoh; tengok kali pertama...terpegun sebab cun giler. Tengok kali kedua...terpegun seperti melihat dia pada kali pertama. Kali ketiga....sama gak dan begitulah seterusnya. Ha....ibarat melihat semua gambar2 dia yang jadi favorite aku tu la Kan berbeza2 penampilan dia? (Ttae-Ttae) threads - Post #440 [WTS] Threads ƸӜƷ Formula One Korean Grand Prix 2013 ƸӜƷ North Korean Traffic Officer ƸӜƷ Kim Min Jung ƸӜƷ    ──────▐▐▐ ────▐▐▐▐▐▐▐▐ ──▐▐▐▐▐▐▐▐▐▐▐ ─▐▐▐▐▐▐▐▐▐▐▐▐▐ ─▐▐▐▐▐▐▐▐▐▐▐▐▐▐ ▐▐▐▐▐▐▐▐▐▐▐▐▐▐▐▐ ▐▐▐▐▐▐▐────▐▐▐▐▐──▐▐▐▐▐▐▐ ▐▐▐▐▐▐▐─────▐▐▐▐▐▐▐▐▐▐▐▐▐▐ ▐▐▐▐▐▐───────▐▐▐▐▐▐▐▐▐▐▐▐▐ ─▐▐▐▐▐────────▐▐▐▐▐▐▐▐▐▐▐▐▐▐▐▐▐▐▐▐▐▐ ─▐▐▐▐▐▐────────▐────▐▐▐▐▐▐▐▐▐▐▐▐▐▐▐▐▐ ─▐▐▐▐▐▐───────▐▐▐▐▐▐▐▐▐▐▐─▐▐▐▐▐▐▐▐▐▐▐▐ ──▐▐▐▐▐──────▐▐▐▐▐▐▐▐▐▐▐▐▐▐──▐▐▐▐▐▐▐▐▐▐ ──▐▐▐▐▐▐─────▐▐▐▐▐▐▐▐▐▐▐▐▐▐────▐▐▐▐─▐▐▐ ───▐▐▐▐▐─────▐▐▐▐▐──▐▐▐▐▐▐───────▐▐▐▐▐▐▐ ────▐▐▐▐▐────▐▐▐▐────▐▐▐▐▐───────▐▐▐▐▐▐▐ ────▐▐▐▐▐─────▐▐▐▐──▐▐▐▐▐─────────▐▐▐▐▐▐ ─────▐▐▐▐▐────▐▐▐▐──▐▐▐▐▐─────────▐▐▐▐▐ ──────▐▐▐▐▐────▐▐▐──▐▐▐▐──────────▐▐▐▐▐ ───────▐▐▐▐─────▐▐▐▐▐▐▐▐─────────▐▐▐▐▐ ────────▐▐▐▐─────▐▐▐▐▐▐──────────▐▐▐▐ ─────────▐▐▐▐────▐▐▐▐▐──────────▐▐▐▐ ──────────▐▐▐▐───▐▐▐▐▐─────────▐▐▐▐ ───────────▐▐▐▐─▐▐▐▐▐▐────────▐▐▐▐ ────────────▐▐▐▐▐▐▐▐▐▐▐──────▐▐▐ ─────────────▐▐▐▐▐▐▐▐▐▐▐────▐▐▐ ───────────────▐▐▐▐▐▐▐▐▐▐▐▐▐▐ 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Bömi Bɑby •°*”˜˜”*°•. Don’t be sad no no no (~ Oh no ~), You’re not alone no no no (~ Oh no ~), You always became a light for me (Ttae-Ttae) threads - Post #440 ”˜˜ http://i.minus.com/inzlrnX4oiNlz.jpg ”˜˜ I miss you sayang...so much...huwaaa....you are still the best ever. This post has been edited by Raikkonen: Sep 9 2016, 11:13 PM |
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Aug 6 2007, 01:11 AM
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QUOTE(james2306 @ Aug 6 2007, 12:56 AM) As expected from our 2 times WDC |
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Aug 6 2007, 01:17 AM
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a bright side for BMW in this race, they scored the most points for constructors
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Aug 6 2007, 01:18 AM
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Aug 6 2007, 01:33 AM
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ya after such a bad start this year...
hope BMW can be abck like last time... |
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Aug 6 2007, 02:06 AM
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lots a probs at McLaren now
Alonso coy about commitment to McLaren http://www.f1-live.com/f1/en/headlines/new...805190456.shtml QUOTE Asked by Spanish reporters in Budapest whether he will still be racing for Dennis' outfit in 2008 and 2009, 26-year-old Alonso replied: "I don't know, I don't know. We will see." Dennis admits driver 'mistrust' at McLarenhttp://www.f1-live.com/f1/en/headlines/new...805191104.shtml QUOTE Alonso, meanwhile, said 'nobody' at McLaren is speaking to Hamilton, but reiterated that it is "not my problem but a big problem for the team." QUOTE After winning in Budapest, meanwhile, Hamilton said of his Spanish team-mate: "He doesn't seem to be speaking to me so I don't know if he has a problem." Well, anyone SANE would have seen these issues coming |
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Aug 6 2007, 02:09 AM
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lol dramas!!!
all cause of alonso zzz |
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Aug 6 2007, 02:11 AM
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QUOTE(RyonanGT @ Aug 6 2007, 01:02 AM) cham.... seems like Kimi no chance of getting WDC this year alredi.... he still get chance,just need more consistent and need always finish in front of Lewis and Fernando |
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Aug 6 2007, 02:27 AM
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for WDC 20 points is considered a lot compared to 20 points in WCC..
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Aug 6 2007, 02:30 AM
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Aug 6 2007, 02:42 AM
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McLaren have no problem with car perfomance but have problem with relationship, i think Ron,Lewis and Fernando need settle this quickly to make sure McLaren get both title
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Aug 6 2007, 09:27 AM
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QUOTE(evofantasy @ Aug 6 2007, 02:27 AM) for WDC 20 points is considered a lot compared to 20 points in WCC.. unless the rookie car breakdown in 2 successive race,then we hv the championship ON dy which is highly unlikely |
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Aug 6 2007, 09:39 AM
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even if his car break down twice kimi need to win twice lol...
anyways i rather hamilton winning WDC (over cause alonso) he kidna deserve it... |
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Aug 6 2007, 10:10 AM
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Aug 6 2007, 10:37 AM
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hehe... alonso will get his third wdc this year LOL
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Aug 6 2007, 10:41 AM
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QUOTE(james2306 @ Aug 6 2007, 02:06 AM) lots a probs at McLaren now That's pretty much expected. Alonso coy about commitment to McLaren http://www.f1-live.com/f1/en/headlines/new...805190456.shtml Dennis admits driver 'mistrust' at McLaren http://www.f1-live.com/f1/en/headlines/new...805191104.shtml Well, anyone SANE would have seen these issues coming That's the way F1 business gets about. You cannot be a Mr. Nice Guy in F1. And there's no such thing a a dream team of two heroes, cause F1 heroes don't share their territory. Lewis will stay. i expect Alonso to be the one looking elsewhere, maybe a BMW, or back to Renault. Ferrari is his next best option after McLaren performance wise, but Kimi and Massa is there, I doubt he'll get along with them. Alonso is the kind of guy that needs a team being build around him, and he cannot have a team mate that's faster than him. Lewis on the other hand, feels that he's a top driver now and should be given priority too (thus as Alonso claimed, he disobeyed team orders to allow Alonso start Q3 ahead of him.) Ron's squeeze between these two drives who wants the same thing, that is to be no.1 driver in the team. He can't pull any magic to solve this one. |
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Aug 6 2007, 10:43 AM
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he wont la...
if his attitude continue no1 would say he deserve winning... |
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Aug 6 2007, 10:47 AM
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QUOTE(Hornet @ Aug 6 2007, 10:41 AM) That's pretty much expected. I agree. but Ron is not a newbie in this matter...That's the way F1 business gets about. You cannot be a Mr. Nice Guy in F1. And there's no such thing a a dream team of two heroes, cause F1 heroes don't share their territory. Lewis will stay. i expect Alonso to be the one looking elsewhere, maybe a BMW, or back to Renault. Ferrari is his next best option after McLaren performance wise, but Kimi and Massa is there, I doubt he'll get along with them. Alonso is the kind of guy that needs a team being build around him, and he cannot have a team mate that's faster than him. Lewis on the other hand, feels that he's a top driver now and should be given priority too (thus as Alonso claimed, he disobeyed team orders to allow Alonso start Q3 ahead of him.) Ron's squeeze between these two drives who wants the same thing, that is to be no.1 driver in the team. He can't pull any magic to solve this one. Lauda - Prost Prost - Senna Hakkinen - Coulthard Alonso - Hamilton |
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Aug 6 2007, 11:41 AM
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if lewis win this season championship, maybe alonso might go back to renault?
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Aug 6 2007, 11:46 AM
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QUOTE(edison92133 @ Aug 6 2007, 11:41 AM) if lewis win this season championship, maybe alonso might go back to renault? i tot he would stay n fight it back...instead of being a coward n move away... |
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Aug 6 2007, 11:51 AM
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Everyone rooting for Hamilton for his sweet baby face smilies..
LOL... I think he's wicked.. and I think if Raikonen cant catch them, I support Alonso to win WDC.. he's a monkey with great skills IMO.. Hamilton, just a rookie tiger with pig skin cover who knows nuts about setting up a car. |
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Aug 6 2007, 11:51 AM
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i missed the race! any more repeats??
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Aug 6 2007, 12:01 PM
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QUOTE(pinkfuzzychick @ Aug 6 2007, 11:51 AM) i missed the race! any more repeats?? lucky u...so borinnk race hehe...no overtaking,no nothing except the pole controversy |
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Aug 6 2007, 12:03 PM
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should be on astro chn 82...
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Aug 6 2007, 12:05 PM
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The start of the race is nice.
Even though Heidfield has the lesser advantage in P2 grid but then i was thinking that he could slid in between Kimi and Lewis... |
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Aug 6 2007, 12:10 PM
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QUOTE(pinkfuzzychick @ Aug 6 2007, 11:51 AM) i missed the race! any more repeats?? 3pm Starsports - be prepare for the worst & hopeless commentator |
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Aug 6 2007, 12:20 PM
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QUOTE(edison92133 @ Aug 6 2007, 11:41 AM) if lewis win this season championship, maybe alonso might go back to renault? balik BMW better |
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Aug 6 2007, 01:19 PM
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nah the hate for alonso > hate for any other drivers
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Aug 6 2007, 01:21 PM
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hermm IMHO renault gonna come out strong next season... i think they are more focusing on upcoming r28 (with their CFD) than continue develope r27...with more new regulation (no traction control) and more understanding with the rubber...this is what mclaren had done last season,look how strong they r right now compare to last season
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Aug 6 2007, 01:27 PM
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QUOTE(TOYO @ Aug 6 2007, 01:21 PM) hermm IMHO renault gonna come out strong next season... i think they are more focusing on upcoming r28 (with their CFD) than continue develope r27...with more new regulation (no traction control) and more understanding with the rubber...this is what mclaren had done last season,look how strong they r right now compare to last season seriously doubt fisi will still be in the renault racing car next seasons... |
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Aug 6 2007, 01:30 PM
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Aug 6 2007, 01:32 PM
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QUOTE(Raikkonen @ Aug 6 2007, 01:06 AM) My mission and our mission too...new world champion this season If it's a Ferrari...then sweeter |
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Aug 6 2007, 01:33 PM
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oh...no wonder yesterday i was wondering 'who's d new commentator'...
never realize it was damon hill....his voice sounds so young lar.... but i think he anti-ferrari.... |
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Aug 6 2007, 01:38 PM
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QUOTE(Amanda85 @ Aug 6 2007, 01:33 PM) oh...no wonder yesterday i was wondering 'who's d new commentator'... He anti-MS, not Ferrari, from the commentary, he also said good thing bout Ferrari and Raikkonen.never realize it was damon hill....his voice sounds so young lar.... but i think he anti-ferrari.... |
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Aug 6 2007, 01:41 PM
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QUOTE(Amanda85 @ Aug 6 2007, 01:33 PM) but i think he anti-ferrari.... of course he bengang to Ferrari after he know what Ferrari people said about Schumi-Jacques incident |
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Aug 6 2007, 01:42 PM
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She did good during practice; even hit another player
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Aug 6 2007, 01:44 PM
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Aug 6 2007, 01:48 PM
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QUOTE(Raikkonen @ Aug 6 2007, 01:44 PM) He did apologize instantly when he accidently refer Ferrari's car as a truck purposely said it then onli said 'sorry' ??? or mayb that's what his mind think.... This post has been edited by Amanda85: Aug 6 2007, 01:49 PM |
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Aug 6 2007, 01:53 PM
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QUOTE(Raikkonen @ Aug 6 2007, 01:44 PM) 1994 - Schumi 92 vs Hill 91...sakitnya hati dia Yup. He did apologize instantly when he accidently refer Ferrari's car as a truck And when a team radio was ON...he stop talking and said let's listen to the team radio. Unlike James |
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Aug 6 2007, 02:00 PM
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QUOTE(Raikkonen @ Aug 6 2007, 01:44 PM) 1994 - Schumi 92 vs Hill 91...sakitnya hati dia Yup. He did apologize instantly when he accidently refer Ferrari's car as a truck And when a team radio was ON...he stop talking and said let's listen to the team radio. Unlike James bout damon, i think he did joined ITV commentary team before if my memory serve me right. EDIT : anyone here subscribe to F1 Racing mag? This post has been edited by evoHahn: Aug 6 2007, 02:03 PM |
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Aug 6 2007, 02:03 PM
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Aug 6 2007, 02:05 PM
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QUOTE(skylinegtr34rule4life @ Aug 6 2007, 12:20 PM) balik BMW better he was never a BMW driver. even so, i dun think Mario would take him as a driver for the team. IMO, the current drivers are good enough, and can be better. |
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Aug 6 2007, 02:09 PM
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QUOTE(sqwerk2 @ Aug 6 2007, 02:05 PM) he was never a BMW driver. even so, i dun think Mario would take him as a driver for the team. IMO, the current drivers are good enough, and can be better. Then go to Nascar series.Till then Alonso vs Montoya. After finish the race Alonso to Montoya: F*** ......... Montoya to Alonso: F*** ......... |
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Aug 6 2007, 02:19 PM
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Aug 6 2007, 02:21 PM
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Alonso:F***, la cuacaracha
Montoya : Dey thambi, ye narda..... |
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Aug 6 2007, 02:38 PM
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Aug 6 2007, 02:56 PM
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QUOTE(edison_84 @ Aug 6 2007, 02:09 PM) Then go to Nascar series. really miss Montoya Till then Alonso vs Montoya. After finish the race Alonso to Montoya: F*** ......... Montoya to Alonso: F*** ......... |
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Aug 6 2007, 04:20 PM
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Hamilton tells Dennis: Go f*cking swivel!
The full extent of Lewis Hamilton's temporary falling out with McLaren team boss - and long-time mentor - Ron Dennis came to light ahead of the Hungarian Grand Prix, revealing the heated post-qualifying exchange that was the apparent cause of Dennis' headphone-throwing display on pit-wall. While many guessed that the displeasure was directed at Fernando Alonso, after the Spaniard had blocked Hamilton at the session's final tyre change, analysis of the radio traffic between Dennis and his protg provided interesting reading for Britain's Sunday newspaper buyers. The 22-year old allegedly swore at Dennis over the team radio, precipitating an angry exchange of views "Don't ever f****** do that to me again"," Hamilton was quoted by Britain's News of the World and The Sunday Times, amongst others. "Dennis hit back, blasting: "Don't ever f****** speak to me like that." But Hamilton responded: "Go f****** swivel." Things were rosier following the race, which Hamilton won from a pole inherited when Alonso was demoted five places on the grid for his pit-lane indiscretion, but the Briton admitted that there had had to be a lot of bridge-building in the aftermath of the session, in which he was accused of precipitating the blocking incident by not allowing Alonso through in the fuel-burning phase. Full Story |
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Aug 6 2007, 04:55 PM
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wow.........what ignited Lewis to say that in the first place?
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Aug 6 2007, 05:09 PM
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QUOTE(young_soul @ Aug 6 2007, 04:55 PM) wow.........what ignited Lewis to say that in the first place? 1 word: alonso |
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Aug 6 2007, 05:42 PM
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QUOTE(EroS @ Aug 6 2007, 04:20 PM) Hamilton tells Dennis: Go f*cking swivel! wah.. anyone have youtube or record of the conversation ah?? nice wor.. The full extent of Lewis Hamilton's temporary falling out with McLaren team boss - and long-time mentor - Ron Dennis came to light ahead of the Hungarian Grand Prix, revealing the heated post-qualifying exchange that was the apparent cause of Dennis' headphone-throwing display on pit-wall. While many guessed that the displeasure was directed at Fernando Alonso, after the Spaniard had blocked Hamilton at the session's final tyre change, analysis of the radio traffic between Dennis and his protg provided interesting reading for Britain's Sunday newspaper buyers. The 22-year old allegedly swore at Dennis over the team radio, precipitating an angry exchange of views "Don't ever f****** do that to me again"," Hamilton was quoted by Britain's News of the World and The Sunday Times, amongst others. "Dennis hit back, blasting: "Don't ever f****** speak to me like that." But Hamilton responded: "Go f****** swivel." Things were rosier following the race, which Hamilton won from a pole inherited when Alonso was demoted five places on the grid for his pit-lane indiscretion, but the Briton admitted that there had had to be a lot of bridge-building in the aftermath of the session, in which he was accused of precipitating the blocking incident by not allowing Alonso through in the fuel-burning phase. Full Story |
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Aug 6 2007, 06:20 PM
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Aug 6 2007, 06:30 PM
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wow.. Ron gonna step down..
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Aug 6 2007, 06:37 PM
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i tot swivel is like turning around.....
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Aug 6 2007, 06:41 PM
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falbio go to mclaren & take over
that will be interesting, hahahaha |
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Aug 6 2007, 07:07 PM
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OMG!! tat perut buncit punya playboy
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Aug 6 2007, 08:47 PM
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Lewis: We don't talk any more.
Lewis Hamilton admits that he is saddened by the breakdown in communications between himself and McLaren team-mate Fernando Alonso following Saturday's qualifying session at the Hungaroring, but insists that it will not affect his focus. The Briton revealed after the Hungarian Grand Prix that his Spanish team-mate had refused to talk to him, further widening the schism that first appeared in the McLaren line-up when the Briton proved his title potential early in the season. Although the pair attempted to project a healthy working relationship, the incident in Hungary appears to have been the final straw - for Alonso at least. "He doesn't seem to have been speaking to me since yesterday, so I don't know if he has a problem," Hamilton revealed in the post-race press conference, "I think it is always difficult, [but] I have had it with every team I have been in. "When you have the two most competitive people in the team - possibly the two most competitive people around, both wanting to win - it puts the team under immense pressure. It is just extremely hard for everyone to play fair and to make it easy. That's why sometimes it appears that one driver is favoured over the other. That's why sometimes I feel he is favoured and vice-versa. "I think going on from now, I hope he still speaks to me. I am easy to get along with, I don't hold grudges on anyone. If he doesn't want to speak to me than that is for him to decide, but I'm open." |
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Aug 6 2007, 09:40 PM
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hamilton sounds more matured than alonso XD
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Aug 6 2007, 09:45 PM
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Lewis is more brave now,this is what he need in order to be a champion
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Aug 6 2007, 10:11 PM
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QUOTE(Raikkonen @ Aug 6 2007, 02:38 PM) if i'm not mistaken, should McLaren lose the appeal, they can be penalize. Since they are still leading, there's no reason for them to do so anyway. i'm sure they are not going to appeal.QUOTE(young_soul @ Aug 6 2007, 04:55 PM) wow.........what ignited Lewis to say that in the first place? He probably thought the team did it intentionally. he was told to allow alonso to start Q3 in front of him. he didn't like it obviously, and disobey the order. Alonso didn't like Lewis action in turn, and probably intentionally impede lewis. Of course lewis wouldn't know what's going on, because as usual, drivers always wait for the team to tell them when to leave. lewis might had though the team did that instead. |
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Aug 6 2007, 10:14 PM
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Huh.. things become hotter lately for McLaren. Hope they still can cope and concentrate with the remaining races.
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Aug 6 2007, 11:09 PM
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QUOTE(EroS @ Aug 6 2007, 08:47 PM) Lewis: We don't talk any more. nothing against the guy but every team?! can't be he so unlucky always with sore losers, can he? I think Hamilton a little too competitive and he also a little paranoid about being 2nd choice as shown through his action here and when he has to allow Alonso to overtake in an earlier race.Lewis Hamilton admits that he is saddened by the breakdown in communications between himself and McLaren team-mate Fernando Alonso following Saturday's qualifying session at the Hungaroring, but insists that it will not affect his focus. The Briton revealed after the Hungarian Grand Prix that his Spanish team-mate had refused to talk to him, further widening the schism that first appeared in the McLaren line-up when the Briton proved his title potential early in the season. Although the pair attempted to project a healthy working relationship, the incident in Hungary appears to have been the final straw - for Alonso at least. "He doesn't seem to have been speaking to me since yesterday, so I don't know if he has a problem," Hamilton revealed in the post-race press conference, "I think it is always difficult, [but] I have had it with every team I have been in. "When you have the two most competitive people in the team - possibly the two most competitive people around, both wanting to win - it puts the team under immense pressure. It is just extremely hard for everyone to play fair and to make it easy. That's why sometimes it appears that one driver is favoured over the other. That's why sometimes I feel he is favoured and vice-versa. "I think going on from now, I hope he still speaks to me. I am easy to get along with, I don't hold grudges on anyone. If he doesn't want to speak to me than that is for him to decide, but I'm open." |
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Aug 7 2007, 12:11 AM
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Hamilton can go f*** swivel if he kept doing that. He's the one who ignited and causing such ruscus, now he put an innocent show saying someone doesnt want to talk to him. Pls.. fair treatment? Who on earth would believe it.
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Aug 7 2007, 12:30 AM
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well it is alonso's fault and he do have the right to get angry...
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Aug 7 2007, 12:37 AM
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Situation worse than Senna-Prost struggle
Dennis seeking some time to reflect Link ~ http://www.f1-live.com McLaren defections gossip abounds With denials in tow Link ~ http://www.f1-live.com |
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Aug 7 2007, 01:59 AM
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QUOTE(kapitan @ Aug 7 2007, 12:11 AM) Hamilton can go f*** swivel if he kept doing that. He's the one who ignited and causing such ruscus, now he put an innocent show saying someone doesnt want to talk to him. Pls.. fair treatment? Who on earth would believe it. ya la.. all his fault.. a rookie leading da championship.. make alonso lose face onli.. no wonder alonso angry lar.. lose 2 a rookie team-mate.. |
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Aug 7 2007, 09:00 AM
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QUOTE(evofantasy @ Aug 7 2007, 12:30 AM) well it is alonso's fault and he do have the right to get angry... i dont know if you're blind or u prefer to ignore the news... it's hamilton who got himself stuck behind alonso in the first place. bah.. typical alonso-hater who still couldnt accept the fact that alonso beaten schumi ? Added on August 7, 2007, 9:01 amwhat a boring hungarian gp, it's a good thing that i missed it. HAhahah This post has been edited by blah1134: Aug 7 2007, 09:01 AM |
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Aug 7 2007, 09:02 AM
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why does everyone keep holding on to the petty fact like alonso loose face,
when fact of a matter is that hamilton disregard an order to let alonso through on the start of qualifying 3. Instead he just fly off into the oblivion. And why is this important? you migh ask well to me Macca seems to want to group together their driver to find a good spot that is clear of the cars instead of running them on different timings to the circuit condition. its getting boring with the lame excused been made to defend hamilton actions, while at the ame time use it to crucify alonso (remember that the wait alonso have to endure for hamilton to finish his lap before he could go out after the first pitstop) |
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Aug 7 2007, 09:43 AM
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forget about who's wrong, who's right...
d fact is tat Mclaren had engage in a Civil War... This post has been edited by Amanda85: Aug 7 2007, 09:44 AM |
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Aug 7 2007, 10:05 AM
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heck
for me it just made it more interesting to me but i'm just into the speculative news, i am being what i am, a spectator humor-ed by thr folly of humans |
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Aug 7 2007, 10:56 AM
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QUOTE(blah1134 @ Aug 7 2007, 09:00 AM) i dont know if you're blind or u prefer to ignore the news... it's hamilton who got himself stuck behind alonso in the first place. Hamilton got reason to do that, he doesn't want to let Raikonen pass. Besides that, what does us hating Alonso got to do with him beating Schumacher? Be more logical. Even if Hamilton screwed up the strategy, doesn't mean Alonso should block him in the pit, he can always go out and slow down firstbah.. typical alonso-hater who still couldnt accept the fact that alonso beaten schumi ? Added on August 7, 2007, 9:01 amwhat a boring hungarian gp, it's a good thing that i missed it. HAhahah |
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Aug 7 2007, 11:39 AM
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QUOTE(blah1134 @ Aug 7 2007, 09:00 AM) i dont know if you're blind or u prefer to ignore the news... it's hamilton who got himself stuck behind alonso in the first place. Now yes, Lewis did a mistake by not exactly following team's instructions. But does that gives alonso the right to break FIA rules, to impede a driver?bah.. typical alonso-hater who still couldnt accept the fact that alonso beaten schumi ? Added on August 7, 2007, 9:01 amwhat a boring hungarian gp, it's a good thing that i missed it. HAhahah Me, the answer is no. Let the team deal with Lewis, why go break the rules and get himself penalize? It's not up to Alonso to punish Lewis, and there's no justification to breaking rules and impeding other driver. Just because Lewis did something wrong, doesn't mean its ok for Alonso to do something wrong too |
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Aug 7 2007, 12:46 PM
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QUOTE(blah1134 @ Aug 7 2007, 09:00 AM) i dont know if you're blind or u prefer to ignore the news... it's hamilton who got himself stuck behind alonso in the first place. alonso did break the rule so why is kamilton in fault now...bah.. typical alonso-hater who still couldnt accept the fact that alonso beaten schumi ? Added on August 7, 2007, 9:01 amwhat a boring hungarian gp, it's a good thing that i missed it. HAhahah btw typical alonso fanboy who worship him beating MS lol... |
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Aug 7 2007, 12:48 PM
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one question...how do you exactly know alonso do that on it own? not from his engineers or strategies?
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Aug 7 2007, 12:50 PM
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spanish paper really geng man....back alonso 'kaw kaw'...
even go as far as to claim hamilton... 'who also can win it that way'.... |
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QUOTE(TOYO @ Aug 7 2007, 12:48 PM) one question...how do you exactly know alonso do that on it own? not from his engineers or strategies? Because everyone has different story to tellAlonso - I radioed engineer to check if the tires were the correct ones ( he doesn't know how to see the white stripes ) Engineer - I was seeing through his GPS device so that Alonso can have a clear track when he comes out Dennis - It was team strategy and Hamilton did not allow Alonso to pass Hamilton - I had Raikonen behind me, hence I did not allow Alonso to pass. You guys saw what happened, I am not going to say anything |
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QUOTE(Colt Carbine @ Sep 24 2013, 04:44 PM) » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « so I can assume this is ur top 10 favourite pic ^^ Most that I posted in this thread are my favorites. This video makes me sakit hati My wifu behaving like a murahan Tak boleh jadi nie Well in this life you must find something to live for. Cause when the darkness comes a callin' You'll go back to where you were before. Cause this life is as fragile as a dream, and Nothing’s ever really "As it seems..." Well I lost my innocence when in I let But the way that (Ttae-Ttae) threads - Post #440 http://i.minus.com/inzlrnX4oiNlz.jpg [WTS] Threads This post has been edited by Raikkonen: Sep 9 2016, 11:30 PM |
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Aug 7 2007, 01:24 PM
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QUOTE(Raikkonen @ Aug 7 2007, 01:18 PM) How do you explain Dennis screaming, engineers screaming on Alonso to get on with it? 2 entertain us la.....coz hungary is d 2nd most boring race track in current time... Dennis went straight to Alonso's trainer etc. Acting for an opera is it? Or just being a McLaren fanatic? |
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Aug 7 2007, 01:27 PM
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Tak pergi Terlalu tua Tapi ada member2 Indonesia kat Soshi yang gi; dia post gambar. Diorang kumpul duit...beli tiket mahal2 untuk seat depan stage. Ada air condition lagi masa kat Indonesia tu. Ni kat Hong Kong 12 Oktober...ada budak lelaki kat Soshi gi gak. Tiket mahal...mak dia belikan  Her ajumma laugh....I LOVE IT. Take a listen. Her ajumma trademark [1:17], [3:10]. [3:13] And also her shriek of laughter/high pitch/dolphin kind of laughter [3:18] Listen with an earphone...you can't miss it and above all you'll addicted to it 'Cha cha cha'    What started the '3:09' Also, March, 09th is her birthday QUOTE Taengstagram Update! 덕분에 숫자 3,9 가 더 좋아진 그리고 여러분도 더더더 소중하게 느껴지구요. 다들 작은 재미로 시작했을지 모르지만 저에겐 절대 작지않은 큰 감동이네요. 탱시라니... 세상에나 소원 진짜 너무 귀여워요. 그리고 고마워요! TY!!♥ 오늘은 나도 소원 따라탱시. 어려워쥬금 #TY #탱시 #3092013.05.05 3:49:58 KST @taeyeon_ss [TRANS] http://bit.ly/109GJ1l the numbers 3, 9 that I got to liking even more thanks to you all and you all feel more, more, more precious, too. i don't know if you all started it as a fun little thing, but it moved me greatly. taeng-shi… my gosh, SONEs are seriously really cute. and thank you! TY!!♥ i'm going to copy SONEs today [and say] taeng-shi. it's a bit hard #TY #탱시 #309**edit Words in the photo–Taeyeon that we miss, happy Taeng-shi. Also, FYI, because some people seem to be getting confused with it… Taeng-shi=/=honorific. The ‘s[h]i’ is basically the same thing as saying ‘o’clock’. So it’s basically just “Taeng’o clock”… I guess, lol. Trans:ch0sshi       This post has been edited by Raikkonen: Sep 9 2016, 11:30 PM |
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Aug 7 2007, 01:33 PM
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hehe...im not mclaren fan by the way... im just alonso fan
do you know what ron screaming about? |
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Aug 7 2007, 01:35 PM
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QUOTE It is a laudable ethos yet one which crumbled during the era of Senna v Prost - rather than Senna and Prost - and again on Saturday when two drivers fell into the temptation of driving for a World Championship rather than for the McLaren team. It is ironic that they were both permitted to collect World Championship points and McLaren were not because the qualifying debacle was caused by Alonso and Hamilton prioritising individual ambition over team glory. so they should not let hamilton n alonso collect points instead of mclaren itself then....Added on August 7, 2007, 1:36 pm QUOTE(TOYO @ Aug 7 2007, 01:33 PM) hehe...im not mclaren fan by the way... im just alonso fan frankly speaking ... now pity alo edi.....tat lewis ITV Lovekid is really too annoying... do you know what ron screaming about? This post has been edited by Amanda85: Aug 7 2007, 01:36 PM |
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Aug 7 2007, 01:49 PM
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QUOTE(TOYO @ Aug 7 2007, 01:33 PM) hehe...im not mclaren fan by the way... im just alonso fan Then you're gonna love this. Got it from Planet-F1: QUOTE Alonso's Ultimatum to RD According to Marca.com, the online subsidiary of the oldest Spanish sport daily, in news which has just been released around 11.20 pm Spanish time, FA has given an ultimatum to Macca in the essence that the team has to decide between him and LH. The newspaper promises full details of this spectacular news in a few hours in their Tuesday print edition. The report mentions something also about that FA and his father had been in consultations with Flavio Briatore. http://www.marca.com/motor/formula1/portadafm1.html http://www.marca.com/edicion/marca/motor/f...lo/1023884.html QUOTE(Amanda85 @ Aug 7 2007, 01:35 PM) frankly speaking ... now pity alo edi.....tat lewis ITV Lovekid is really too annoying... His lucky Hungaroring is not easy to overtake and Kimi is not in front of him. If not...surely Kimi will fly. No matter how hard Lewis pushed...only Kimi got the fastest lap. Or McLaren turn down the revs again is it? I hope one day Kimi did overtake him in a superb way. Wonder what he'll say in the PC This post has been edited by Raikkonen: Aug 7 2007, 01:53 PM |
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Aug 7 2007, 01:58 PM
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QUOTE(Raikkonen @ Aug 7 2007, 01:49 PM) Or McLaren turn down the revs again is it? mayb he testing reverse gear... |
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Aug 7 2007, 01:58 PM
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QUOTE(Hornet @ Aug 7 2007, 11:39 AM) Now yes, Lewis did a mistake by not exactly following team's instructions. But does that gives alonso the right to break FIA rules, to impede a driver? Alonso has been letting his emotions get the better of him this year. I'm kind of a hot-headed person myself so i can sympathize with him. What Lewis did wasn't just a mistake. If I were in Alonso's shoes i probably would have done the same. Besides the rule of impeding a driver is very grey anyway as nowhere is it mentioned that there is a limit of time a driver should take to exit out of the pits. I'm not in any way defending what Alonso did was right. All i'm saying is alot of ppl have been very quick to blame Alonso for everything when the main culprit here was Lewis.Me, the answer is no. Let the team deal with Lewis, why go break the rules and get himself penalize? It's not up to Alonso to punish Lewis, and there's no justification to breaking rules and impeding other driver. Just because Lewis did something wrong, doesn't mean its ok for Alonso to do something wrong too |
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Aug 7 2007, 02:00 PM
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QUOTE(verx @ Aug 7 2007, 01:58 PM) Alonso has been letting his emotions get the better of him this year. I'm kind of a hot-headed person myself so i can sympathize with him. What Lewis did wasn't just a mistake. If I were in Alonso's shoes i probably would have done the same. Besides the rule of impeding a driver is very grey anyway as nowhere is it mentioned that there is a limit of time a driver should take to exit out of the pits. I'm not in any way defending what Alonso did was right. All i'm saying is alot of ppl have been very quick to blame Alonso for everything when the main culprit here was Lewis. not all of ferrari fans blame alonso for this ler....don't b so paranoid....i dun fancy dat british kid much This post has been edited by Amanda85: Aug 7 2007, 02:01 PM |
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Aug 7 2007, 02:01 PM
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QUOTE(Amanda85 @ Aug 7 2007, 02:00 PM) not all of ferrari fans will blame alonso for this ler....don't b so paranoid.... Did i say Ferrari fans? Who is paranoid now? |
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Aug 7 2007, 02:04 PM
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QUOTE(verx @ Aug 7 2007, 02:01 PM) Did i say Ferrari fans? Who is paranoid now? ok...juz wan u 2 know not all ferrari fans prefer hamilton 2 alonso |
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Aug 7 2007, 02:07 PM
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QUOTE(Amanda85 @ Aug 7 2007, 02:04 PM) ok...juz wan u 2 know not all ferrari fans prefer hamilton 2 alonso Ok...and i just want ppl to know that there is a reason why the driver that Ron is most disappointed with this weekend is Hamilton not Alonso. Ron must be seriously considering retiring now This post has been edited by verx: Aug 7 2007, 02:07 PM |
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Aug 7 2007, 02:08 PM
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OMG y so many politic tok here pulak
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Aug 7 2007, 02:08 PM
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QUOTE(verx @ Aug 7 2007, 01:58 PM) Alonso has been letting his emotions get the better of him this year. I'm kind of a hot-headed person myself so i can sympathize with him. What Lewis did wasn't just a mistake. If I were in Alonso's shoes i probably would have done the same. Besides the rule of impeding a driver is very grey anyway as nowhere is it mentioned that there is a limit of time a driver should take to exit out of the pits. I'm not in any way defending what Alonso did was right. All i'm saying is alot of ppl have been very quick to blame Alonso for everything when the main culprit here was Lewis. Well, what Lewis did was wrong but it wasn't against FIA regulations (no rules for screwing up your teammates' strategy) but what Fernando did was against regulations as he held up a competitive driver/even if it is his teammate from setting a lap time. Yes, no where it is said that a driver should take a certain amount of time to complete a pit stop but the PIT STOP HAD COMPLETED and Alonso was there stagnant for several seconds which held up Hamilton. Besides, the reason given by Alonso was rather LAME EDIT: Alonso is still to blame but Hamilton should have his share of it as well, which I must admit, the British media have ignored. This post has been edited by kobe8byrant: Aug 7 2007, 02:11 PM |
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Aug 7 2007, 02:11 PM
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QUOTE(kobe8byrant @ Aug 7 2007, 02:08 PM) Well, what Lewis did was wrong but it wasn't against FIA regulations (no rules for screwing up your teammates' strategy) but what Fernando did was against regulations as he held up a competitive driver/even if it is his teammate from setting a lap time. Yes, no where it is said that a driver should take a certain amount of time to complete a pit stop but the PIT STOP HAD COMPLETED and Alonso was there stagnant for several seconds which held up Hamilton. Besides, the reason given by Alonso was rather LAME well...i think he better just admit it...n lash out about hamilton screwing his qualifying too.... u point me, i point u....haih...  @ d end....that lewis kid laughing behind after clamining another win Added on August 7, 2007, 2:13 pm QUOTE(kobe8byrant @ Aug 7 2007, 02:08 PM) EDIT: Alonso is still to blame but Hamilton should have his share of it as well, which I must admit, the British media have ignored. This post has been edited by Amanda85: Aug 7 2007, 02:13 PM |
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Aug 7 2007, 02:23 PM
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QUOTE(karhoe @ Aug 7 2007, 01:16 PM) Because everyone has different story to tell well, your are partly correct on that. You see, every weekend teams are given let say 8 set of tyres(i forgot how many tyres they are allowed on race weekend) to use for the whole race weekend; Friday, Saturday and Sunday. The 8 set consist of hard and softer compund (white) tyres. So how do the team know if the tyres is brand new or have been used before of the same compound?Alonso - I radioed engineer to check if the tires were the correct ones ( he doesn't know how to see the white stripes ) the answer is, if you noticed, theres a numbering on the side wall of tyre like B8 written in green, which, the driver cant see. |
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Aug 7 2007, 02:23 PM
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Is Ron tired of fighting?
Ron Dennis' emotional reaction to events at the Hungarian Grand Prix could pre-empt his exit from McLaren, according to rumours. The 60-year old team boss was clearly rattled by the renewed hostilities between drivers Fernando Alonso and Lewis Hamilton after the former was accused of blocking his British rival during qualifying, preventing Hamilton from completing his final flying run. Dennis could be seen throwing down his headphones on the pit-wall at the end of the Saturday session, apparently following a heated exchange with protg Hamilton, and reacted angrily with various team members and hangers-on. Alonso was subsequently removed from pole position by the stewards, and could only manage fourth place from sixth on the grid, while Hamilton took his third win of the year to re-assert his championship lead. The Briton later revealed that communications between the pair had broken down completely, while Alonso told Spanish reporters that he was not sure that he would see out his three-year deal with McLaren. "It's a very, very pressured job at the moment - would anyone like it?" Dennis told Reuters reporters as the weekend drew to a close, "You very often get the expression 'character building', but I can tell you I'm 60 years old and I don't need my character building any more. This is extremely challenging for me, emotional and stressful." Engine partner Mercedes had gradually been increasing its shares in McLaren, and has made no secret of its interest in possibly taking full control, possibly giving Dennis a way out should he want to take it. |
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Aug 7 2007, 02:24 PM
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QUOTE(evoHahn @ Aug 7 2007, 02:23 PM) well, your are partly correct on that. You see, every weekend teams are given let say 8 set of tyres(i forgot how many tyres they are allowed on race weekend) to use for the whole race weekend; Friday, Saturday and Sunday. The 8 set consist of hard and softer compund (white) tyres. So how do the team know if the tyres is brand new or have been used before of the same compound? but since when he concern about this issue during such a situation....'pitting during Q3' ??the answer is, if you noticed, theres a numbering on the side wall of tyre like B8 written in green, which, the driver cant see. |
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Aug 7 2007, 02:24 PM
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QUOTE(EroS @ Aug 7 2007, 02:23 PM) Is Ron tired of fighting? If he's younger during Senna-Prost...ok la.Ron Dennis' emotional reaction to events at the Hungarian Grand Prix could pre-empt his exit from McLaren, according to rumours. The 60-year old team boss was clearly rattled by the renewed hostilities between drivers Fernando Alonso and Lewis Hamilton after the former was accused of blocking his British rival during qualifying, preventing Hamilton from completing his final flying run. Dennis could be seen throwing down his headphones on the pit-wall at the end of the Saturday session, apparently following a heated exchange with protg Hamilton, and reacted angrily with various team members and hangers-on. Alonso was subsequently removed from pole position by the stewards, and could only manage fourth place from sixth on the grid, while Hamilton took his third win of the year to re-assert his championship lead. The Briton later revealed that communications between the pair had broken down completely, while Alonso told Spanish reporters that he was not sure that he would see out his three-year deal with McLaren. "It's a very, very pressured job at the moment - would anyone like it?" Dennis told Reuters reporters as the weekend drew to a close, "You very often get the expression 'character building', but I can tell you I'm 60 years old and I don't need my character building any more. This is extremely challenging for me, emotional and stressful." Engine partner Mercedes had gradually been increasing its shares in McLaren, and has made no secret of its interest in possibly taking full control, possibly giving Dennis a way out should he want to take it. Now 60 already...all 'penyakit' is coming Tired of swearing too |
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Aug 7 2007, 02:26 PM
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QUOTE(Amanda85 @ Aug 7 2007, 02:24 PM) but since when he concern about this issue during such a situation....'pitting during Q3' ?? well, there's a difference in performance between new and scrubbed tyres. |
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Aug 7 2007, 02:27 PM
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QUOTE(Raikkonen @ Aug 7 2007, 02:24 PM) If he's younger during Senna-Prost...ok la. jean todt older than him le...Now 60 already...all 'penyakit' is coming Tired of swearing too but todt said wanna retired last yr...but until now still sitting @ d paddock.... |
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Aug 7 2007, 02:28 PM
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QUOTE(Raikkonen @ Aug 7 2007, 02:24 PM) If he's younger during Senna-Prost...ok la. 4 them 60 years old, they still very healthy leh.. we le, when reach 60 de, will b an old rusty car.. Now 60 already...all 'penyakit' is coming Tired of swearing too |
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Aug 7 2007, 02:30 PM
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erm, mclaren was uncompetitive in years 2002, 2004 and 2006. i wonder what will happen next year?
i'm more interested to see what hamilton can do in a POS car, LoL |
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Aug 7 2007, 02:40 PM
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QUOTE(Amanda85 @ Aug 7 2007, 02:27 PM) jean todt older than him le... but Ron has been in F1 longer than Todt. Ron manage McLaren since 1982 while Todt manage Ferrari in early 90's.but todt said wanna retired last yr...but until now still sitting @ d paddock.... Under Ron management McLaren have won 9 Drivers Championship ( Lauda, Prost, Senna, Hakkinen) and 7 constructors championship. |
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Aug 7 2007, 02:41 PM
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QUOTE(acougan @ Aug 7 2007, 02:30 PM) erm, mclaren was uncompetitive in years 2002, 2004 and 2006. i wonder what will happen next year? but i doubt a mclaren will turn into dis season honda.... i'm more interested to see what hamilton can do in a POS car, LoL |
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Aug 7 2007, 02:53 PM
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QUOTE(evoHahn @ Aug 7 2007, 02:23 PM) well, your are partly correct on that. You see, every weekend teams are given let say 8 set of tyres(i forgot how many tyres they are allowed on race weekend) to use for the whole race weekend; Friday, Saturday and Sunday. The 8 set consist of hard and softer compund (white) tyres. So how do the team know if the tyres is brand new or have been used before of the same compound? what ever happen...what ever excuse,its HAS to be alonso false...enough said,the answer is, if you noticed, theres a numbering on the side wall of tyre like B8 written in green, which, the driver cant see. that is the mind setting in all alonso haters |
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Aug 7 2007, 04:37 PM
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OHHH..MYYYY...GOD!!!!!!
I have burnt my toast D@mn you Alonso!!!!!!! D@mn you and your-long-pitstop-in-qualifying-third-session-causing-hamilton-to-unable-to-improve-his-time-but-in-the-end-got-penalised-with-dropping-5-places-down-but-manage-to-claw-back-to-4th-place-in-the-end-with-the-title-still-open... to H3LL!!!!!! D@MN YOU!!!!!!!!!!! ALONSO!!!!!!! This post has been edited by mcchin: Aug 7 2007, 04:38 PM |
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Aug 7 2007, 05:06 PM
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Ferrari big bosses want Hamilton
Link ~ http://www.planetf1.com QUOTE Ferrari have reportedly been told to swoop for Lewis Hamilton by their bosses Fiat. According to the Daily Mirror, the Italian car manufacturer want their F1 team to make a 17million raid on McLaren for the young British sensation. Hamilton once again showed off his breathtaking talent by extending his lead in the title race with victory in Sunday's Hungarian Grand Prix. But afterwards all the talk was of the rift between him and McLaren team-mate Fernando Alonso. The Spaniard's future appears to be in doubt, but the Mirror claims it's Hamilton that could be the man being targeted for a move. It claims Fiat are hoping Ferrari can capitalise on the internal strife at McLaren to lure Hamilton away to Maranello. The British rookie is earning just 250,000 in his first season in Formula One, and the Italian giants would be happy to make him one of the world's highest-paid sportsmen. Current Ferrari number one Kimi Raikkonen rakes in 22million per year, but Hamilton could even top that. Depends on whether Hamilton wants to join or not. This post has been edited by Raikkonen: Aug 7 2007, 05:08 PM |
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Aug 7 2007, 05:09 PM
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The British rookie is earning just 250,000 in his first season in Formula One, and the Italian giants would be happy to make him one of the world's highest-paid sportsmen.
Mclaren pay him chicken feet So who is Ferrari planning to drop? Perhaps Ferrari will swap Kimi Raikonnen with Hamilton This post has been edited by karhoe: Aug 7 2007, 05:10 PM |
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Aug 7 2007, 05:11 PM
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I don't think McLaren will let him go. Also, Kimi is a happier man at Ferrari here.
QUOTE(verx @ Aug 7 2007, 01:58 PM) Alonso has been letting his emotions get the better of him this year. I'm kind of a hot-headed person myself so i can sympathize with him. What Lewis did wasn't just a mistake. If I were in Alonso's shoes i probably would have done the same. Besides the rule of impeding a driver is very grey anyway as nowhere is it mentioned that there is a limit of time a driver should take to exit out of the pits. I'm not in any way defending what Alonso did was right. All i'm saying is alot of ppl have been very quick to blame Alonso for everything when the main culprit here was Lewis. lol, not to put it that way. Its true Alonso wasn't the only cause to that problem, but he surely did contributed to it. Had he not reacted that way, he would have been just fine. Like I've mention earlier, impeding a driver is wrong, regardless of the motivation. But I find it unacceptable when someone does that to a team mate. As far as I know about the investigation, they listen to all communication between the team and the driver, so I believe they concluded things from there. All they need is just to listen to the team telling Alonso to go but he refuse. looking at how Ron vented his anger at Alonso's trainer, I'm sure the team didnt just sit there silently watching alonso not moving. Maybe, just a guess. But anyway Alonso is not a happy man in McLaren. I'd be surprise he stays there next year. Renault would be a better place for him. His few years there, he's much happier than he is now. QUOTE(TOYO @ Aug 7 2007, 02:53 PM) what ever happen...what ever excuse,its HAS to be alonso false...enough said, lol we're open for discussion. Feel free to post your own point of view. Of course you can't just say anyone who disagree with you is alonso hater, everyone have their own point of view if we just agrees with each other, then there's nothing to discuss anymore that is the mind setting in all alonso haters This post has been edited by Hornet: Aug 7 2007, 05:12 PM |
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Aug 7 2007, 05:23 PM
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ALL HAIL KIMI !!!!!!!!
yesyesyes... im a kimi-alonso-mclaren fan. why i said alonso haters couldnt accept the fact that alonso beaten schumi ? some of them are schumi fans, being beaten last year still tastes sour i guess. so they chose to hate alonso. additionally, alonso's cocky attitude, makes it a good reason to hate him. no logical ? i know a few who are like this, not from this forum. (ok. this does not apply to all alonso haters alright) .oh about hamilton & dennis f word battle. that's interesting, fun to read at least i told u guys before, champions are not nice people. (lewis is no rookie, he's a "champion in the making") |
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Aug 7 2007, 05:25 PM
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sooo tired with all the cr@p in f1 right now
off topic, iklan skejap hihi... |
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Aug 7 2007, 05:25 PM
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QUOTE(Hornet @ Aug 7 2007, 05:11 PM) lol we're open for discussion. Feel free to post your own point of view. Of course you can't just say anyone who disagree with you is alonso hater, everyone have their own point of view if we just agrees with each other, then there's nothing to discuss anymore Got a point there. |
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Aug 7 2007, 06:05 PM
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in fact if ferrar acquire hamilton it would be good for them (publicity and support)....
still who to go if it is true and hamilton was groomed in mcclaren so dun think he'll be leaving... |
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Aug 7 2007, 06:09 PM
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McLaren has sponsored his career since he was a boy. It will be one of the biggest betrayals in the sport if he joins Ferrari. All these rumours are unfounded if u ask me.
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Aug 7 2007, 06:10 PM
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QUOTE(Raikkonen @ Aug 7 2007, 05:06 PM) Ferrari big bosses want Hamilton ferrari gonna be the next Chelsea/Abramovich ?Link ~ http://www.planetf1.com Depends on whether Hamilton wants to join or not. |
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Aug 7 2007, 06:47 PM
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Aug 7 2007, 07:00 PM
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good for him. i missed the good ol alonso-playboyflavio-renault-happy-family-team. It's always fun to watch them jump up and down like kids when they win. hAhaha. they get along very well.
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Aug 7 2007, 07:14 PM
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Miss Murray Walker?
Look how commited F1 drivers then, manual gear some more... |
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Aug 7 2007, 07:30 PM
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the honda battle was nice.....
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Aug 7 2007, 07:33 PM
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QUOTE(Raikkonen @ Aug 7 2007, 05:06 PM) Ferrari big bosses want Hamilton last time i saw an interview with hamilton, he said money is NOT the reason he join motor racing so i dont think he will betray McLaren kua.Link ~ http://www.planetf1.com Depends on whether Hamilton wants to join or not. edited: NOT This post has been edited by cristiano7mu: Aug 7 2007, 07:37 PM |
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Aug 7 2007, 08:02 PM
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MCLAREN TELLS ALONSO HE CAN LEAVE
http://planetf1.com/story/0,18954,3213_2645179,00.html Now Ferrari are told by Fiat to get Lewis, and Alonso seems like he will leave. If Lewis moves to Ferrari, Massa would be out, so I bet Massa would move to Mclaren, if Alonso move to BMW, most probably Heidfeld will move to Mclaren. If Alonso moves to BMW, Mclaren just need to find another driver, no way they are going to take Fishichella Added on August 7, 2007, 8:04 pmPerhaps Mclaren take back Hakkinen who has been trying to get back into the team, then Schumacher gatal tangan, comes back as well This post has been edited by karhoe: Aug 7 2007, 08:04 PM |
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Aug 7 2007, 08:14 PM
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lol shuffle the drivers!!!
later alonso back in renault got beaten by another rookie of the team lol... |
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Aug 7 2007, 08:16 PM
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QUOTE(karhoe @ Aug 7 2007, 08:02 PM) Added on August 7, 2007, 8:04 pmPerhaps Mclaren take back Hakkinen who has been trying to get back into the team, then Schumacher gatal tangan, comes back as well |
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Aug 7 2007, 08:53 PM
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QUOTE(karhoe @ Aug 7 2007, 08:02 PM) MCLAREN TELLS ALONSO HE CAN LEAVE If not mistaken, BMW already confirmed they 2008 racers, correct me if i'm wrong.http://planetf1.com/story/0,18954,3213_2645179,00.html Now Ferrari are told by Fiat to get Lewis, and Alonso seems like he will leave. If Lewis moves to Ferrari, Massa would be out, so I bet Massa would move to Mclaren, if Alonso move to BMW, most probably Heidfeld will move to Mclaren. If Alonso moves to BMW, Mclaren just need to find another driver, no way they are going to take Fishichella Added on August 7, 2007, 8:04 pmPerhaps Mclaren take back Hakkinen who has been trying to get back into the team, then Schumacher gatal tangan, comes back as well I bet Alonso will return to Renault. Added on August 7, 2007, 9:19 pmThis is what we expect to see from F1 car during night GP. p/s: After 40secs This post has been edited by edison_84: Aug 7 2007, 09:19 PM |
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Aug 7 2007, 09:38 PM
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if hamilton comes 2 ferrari then ferrari will release who??
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Aug 7 2007, 10:04 PM
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Aug 7 2007, 10:04 PM
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QUOTE(edison_84 @ Aug 7 2007, 08:53 PM) If not mistaken, BMW already confirmed they 2008 racers, correct me if i'm wrong. The nite GP will not be that dark lar... I bet Alonso will return to Renault. Added on August 7, 2007, 9:19 pmThis is what we expect to see from F1 car during night GP. and we cant see the exhaust because its incased in the body shell. |
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Aug 7 2007, 10:09 PM
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QUOTE(evoHahn @ Aug 7 2007, 10:04 PM) The nite GP will not be that dark lar... At least can see some flame from exhaust and we cant see the exhaust because its incased in the body shell. |
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Aug 8 2007, 12:09 AM
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QUOTE(edison_84 @ Aug 7 2007, 08:53 PM) If not mistaken, BMW already confirmed they 2008 racers, correct me if i'm wrong. The best way to expect from the night race is our own Merdeka endurance I bet Alonso will return to Renault. Added on August 7, 2007, 9:19 pmThis is what we expect to see from F1 car during night GP. p/s: After 40secs Kinda like that. Bright light etc. But that's in SIC. F1 is in the street...we'll see Imagine if F1 cars in the end 80's and early 90's where sparks were everywhere Piquet Jr turns to Williams Link ~ http://www.planet-f1.com `Hamilton Is The New Schumi` Link ~ http://www.planetf1.com QUOTE But P-F1ers don't mean that in a good way. What they mean is that Lewis Hamilton seems to disregard the rules - as well as his team-mate - like Schumi did in the past... This post has been edited by Raikkonen: Aug 8 2007, 12:38 AM |
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Aug 8 2007, 12:44 AM
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QUOTE(Hornet @ Aug 7 2007, 11:39 AM) Now yes, Lewis did a mistake by not exactly following team's instructions. But does that gives alonso the right to break FIA rules, to impede a driver? Alonso didn't have any right to break FIA rules but still, the biggest culprit is Lewis. Lewis didn't make a mistake, he deliberately chose to ignore team orders. That, I feel, is worse than Alonso's simply stopping in the pitlane.Me, the answer is no. Let the team deal with Lewis, why go break the rules and get himself penalize? It's not up to Alonso to punish Lewis, and there's no justification to breaking rules and impeding other driver. Just because Lewis did something wrong, doesn't mean its ok for Alonso to do something wrong too |
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Aug 8 2007, 12:46 AM
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I think the night race will be brightly lit up with spotlights all over the circuit...
F1 sports is a dangerous sport and it is in no mean to sacrifice visibility just for the heck of it... |
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Aug 8 2007, 02:32 AM
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QUOTE(eXyzt @ Aug 8 2007, 12:44 AM) Alonso didn't have any right to break FIA rules but still, the biggest culprit is Lewis. Lewis didn't make a mistake, he deliberately chose to ignore team orders. That, I feel, is worse than Alonso's simply stopping in the pitlane. I felt the same too. Lewis is being irresponsible by disobeying team order. It shows a lack of respect to Ron. His actions screwed up the team's strategy and Alonso does not help at all. As much I hate Alonso, I feel for for him. But I totally agreed Lewis started the mess. |
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Aug 8 2007, 06:57 AM
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QUOTE(O-haiyo @ Aug 8 2007, 02:32 AM) I felt the same too. Lewis is being irresponsible by disobeying team order. It shows a lack of respect to Ron. His actions screwed up the team's strategy and Alonso does not help at all. As much I hate Alonso, I feel for for him. But I totally agreed Lewis started the mess. I feel for him too. Like a step son in his team. As a double WDC, he wants more from the team. And he's not treated like one in his team. Lewis already showed his 'color' and not so innocent anymore plus when he 'F' Ron. 'Besar kepala' already. |
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Aug 8 2007, 10:29 AM
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nightrace some more.... |
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Aug 8 2007, 11:15 AM
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QUOTE(TOYO @ Aug 8 2007, 10:29 AM)
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Aug 8 2007, 11:44 AM
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McLaren tell Alonso: Go if you want?
Ron Dennis is so fed up he has told Fernando Alonso he can go if he wants, according to reports in the press. Fernando Alonso has allegedly been told if he does want to leave McLaren-Mercedes at the end of this year, then the Woking-based outfit will allow him to do that, if he so desires. According to reports by British newspaper, The Times a 'well-placed source', which was not identified, has confirmed that McLaren boss, Ron Dennis has informed the double world champion that if he is really unhappy with things then the door is open. "My understanding is that he's been told he can go because they're so fed up with him," the source told the broadsheet 'paper. "Ron is just very p***ed off with both of them [namely Alonso and Britain's Lewis Hamilton]." Alonso has, so the rumours go, been unhappy for quite a bit of the season, as he believes that Hamilton is getting preferential treatment. The dispute at the Hungarian Grand Prix at the weekend, which culminated in Alonso losing his pole position and being bumped down to sixth on the grid, while the team was not allowed to score constructors' points - a ruling McLaren have yet to confirm whether or not they will appeal against - left Ron extremely unhappy. In the same report, Dennis noted: "We have two drivers who are contracted for several years into the future. We will respect our part of the bargain - we hope that the drivers respect theirs, because that's what a contract is about. Crash.net |
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Aug 8 2007, 12:09 PM
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I am skeptical of the source ~
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Aug 8 2007, 12:32 PM
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QUOTE(O-haiyo @ Aug 8 2007, 02:32 AM) I felt the same too. Lewis is being irresponsible by disobeying team order. It shows a lack of respect to Ron. His actions screwed up the team's strategy and Alonso does not help at all. As much I hate Alonso, I feel for for him. But I totally agreed Lewis started the mess. QUOTE(Raikkonen @ Aug 8 2007, 06:57 AM) I feel for him too. Like a step son in his team. As a double WDC, he wants more from the team. And he's not treated like one in his team. Lewis already showed his 'color' and not so innocent anymore plus when he 'F' Ron. 'Besar kepala' already. he can`t lead WDC if he find data in every circuit himself |
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Aug 8 2007, 02:32 PM
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oh yeah.... this is what i want to see
http://www.f1-live.com/f1/en/headlines/new...807184500.shtml International Court of Appeal date set ICA keen to show transparency in hearing QUOTE As we reported this morning, the International Court of Appeal (ICA) will meet in the second week of September to determine the fate of the McLaren Mercedes team. The following is a statement from the FIA. "The International Court of Appeal will meet in Paris on Thursday September 13, 2007 to hear a referral by the President of the FIA concerning a decision of the World Motor Sport Council regarding a breach by the Vodafone McLaren Mercedes team of Article 151© of the International Sporting Code. "The referral was made by the FIA President under the terms of Article 23(1) of the FIA Statutes and Article 1 of the ICA Rules and Procedure. "In the interests of transparency the hearing will be open to members of the press and details of the accreditation procedure will be published closer to the time. "All of the teams competing in the 2007 FIA Formula One World Championship have been given the opportunity to make written submissions to the ICA and have been invited to attend the hearing to supplement their submissions with oral presentations." Source FIA CAPSIS International |
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Aug 8 2007, 03:07 PM
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ok trial is going on again...
being a rookie i msut say very impressive performance from hamilton... still 2 competing drivers in a team is hard to manage (wut mreo alonso is in - dbl WDC) |
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Aug 8 2007, 03:48 PM
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if switch sutil n hamilton vice versa...imho the result is quite the same...
hamilton just being lucky being in his first rookie season in one of the best car n 2 wdc as team mate... for me, i have no respect for him at all... i'd like to see a champ start thier carier from bottom (alonso - minardi,renault...kimi - sauber,mclaren) ...far better if he can rise togather with the team...this why i like about alonso...he join renault when renault was nothing... |
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Aug 8 2007, 05:06 PM
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QUOTE(eXyzt @ Aug 8 2007, 12:44 AM) Alonso didn't have any right to break FIA rules but still, the biggest culprit is Lewis. Lewis didn't make a mistake, he deliberately chose to ignore team orders. That, I feel, is worse than Alonso's simply stopping in the pitlane. according to dennis, he never follow the team order and the team and alansi get penalized for that.should cut the respective driver's points instead of the team. |
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Aug 8 2007, 05:08 PM
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QUOTE(EroS @ Aug 7 2007, 09:38 PM) if hamilton comes 2 ferrari then ferrari will release who?? Fellipe Massa, who I believe will then move to MclarenIF only Hamilton really moved to Ferrari |
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Aug 8 2007, 05:26 PM
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QUOTE(TOYO @ Aug 8 2007, 03:48 PM) if switch sutil n hamilton vice versa...imho the result is quite the same... well with talent he dun need to start from nothing...hamilton just being lucky being in his first rookie season in one of the best car n 2 wdc as team mate... for me, i have no respect for him at all... i'd like to see a champ start thier carier from bottom (alonso - minardi,renault...kimi - sauber,mclaren) ...far better if he can rise togather with the team...this why i like about alonso...he join renault when renault was nothing... he was trained for several years at mcclaren (which is equal or mroe than some drivers) |
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Aug 8 2007, 05:35 PM
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the star?? I don't believe or even don't bother to read the star's sport news one wor.. reliable meh??
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Aug 8 2007, 06:16 PM
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QUOTE(TOYO @ Aug 8 2007, 03:48 PM) if switch sutil n hamilton vice versa...imho the result is quite the same... He's lucky.hamilton just being lucky being in his first rookie season in one of the best car n 2 wdc as team mate... for me, i have no respect for him at all... i'd like to see a champ start thier carier from bottom (alonso - minardi,renault...kimi - sauber,mclaren) ...far better if he can rise togather with the team...this why i like about alonso...he join renault when renault was nothing... McLaren 'pampered' him for 12 years. A kind of youth program in McLaren. Renault was nothing? I don't think so. They've been around since 1992 and won the WDC in 1994 and 1995 with Michael Schumacher in a Benetton-Renault. WCC from 1992 - 1997 and both WDC and WCC in 2005 - 2006. Flavio was the team boss. Renault has been involved in car racing all over the world and for a very long time. So it's not fair to say Renault is nothing This post has been edited by Raikkonen: Aug 8 2007, 06:27 PM |
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Aug 8 2007, 06:26 PM
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laaa... after shumacher,brown move to ferrari... renault aka beneton start to strugle... at the time alonso join renault...there is nothing to be proud off
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Aug 8 2007, 06:28 PM
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only newbie will say Renault is nothing...
I also newbie.. |
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Aug 8 2007, 06:28 PM
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QUOTE(evofantasy @ Aug 8 2007, 05:26 PM) well with talent he dun need to start from nothing... ya that why i said he lucky to have that opportunity he was trained for several years at mcclaren (which is equal or mroe than some drivers) |
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Aug 8 2007, 06:57 PM
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QUOTE(EroS @ Aug 7 2007, 09:38 PM) if hamilton comes 2 ferrari then ferrari will release who?? Release both Massa and Kimi Rossi and Lewis will fill the cockpit |
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Aug 8 2007, 07:07 PM
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QUOTE(BuFung @ Aug 8 2007, 06:28 PM) I also newbie.. Me too Still learning McLaren appeal against Hungary penalty Link ~ http://www.autosport.com Rugi ma...more than 10 points. Of course will appeal This post has been edited by Raikkonen: Aug 8 2007, 07:13 PM |
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Aug 8 2007, 07:16 PM
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QUOTE(Raikkonen @ Aug 8 2007, 07:07 PM) Me too cannot be.. u are no newbie.. u are 2007 champion... Still learning McLaren appeal against Hungary penalty Link ~ http://www.autosport.com Rugi ma...more than 10 points. Of course will appeal |
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Aug 8 2007, 07:50 PM
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QUOTE(TOYO @ Aug 8 2007, 06:28 PM) ya that why i said he lucky to have that opportunity when u said lucky from wut i intepret is he lucky to win lol...instead of minus the team points its better and mroe fair to minus the driver's points sicnenits the driver's fault... Added on August 8, 2007, 7:51 pmthe only reason y i think mcclaren's points was affected cause they did lied when questioned by the officials... This post has been edited by evofantasy: Aug 8 2007, 07:51 PM |
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Aug 8 2007, 08:57 PM
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QUOTE(evofantasy @ Aug 8 2007, 07:50 PM) Added on August 8, 2007, 7:51 pmthe only reason y i think mcclaren's points was affected cause they did lied when questioned by the officials... |
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Aug 8 2007, 09:24 PM
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QUOTE(evoHahn @ Aug 8 2007, 08:57 PM) sauce please. refer one of the article bout alonslow got demoted...i try find =.=" edit: found: - Neither did the stewards accept McLaren’s explanation concerning the original 20-second delay: “Reference to the circuit map shows that at the time Alonso was told he would be held for 20 seconds there were but 4 cars on the circuit his own and those of Fisichella, Hamilton and Raikkonen. All but Raikkonen entered the pits such that there can have been no necessity to keep Alonso in the pits for 20 seconds waiting for a convenient gap in traffic in which to leave.” from: http://www.formula1.com/news/headlines/2007/8/6594.html nuff said... This post has been edited by evofantasy: Aug 8 2007, 09:30 PM |
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Aug 8 2007, 09:43 PM
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Off Topic:
Evohahn, i realised u always type source as sauce. hehe |
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Aug 8 2007, 10:12 PM
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QUOTE(evofantasy @ Aug 8 2007, 09:24 PM) refer one of the article bout alonslow got demoted... so the stewards did not accept Mclaren explanation and that doesnt mean that Mclaren lied. Like if i dont accept your explanation for example, doesnt mean that you are lying.i try find =.=" edit: found: - Neither did the stewards accept McLaren's explanation concerning the original 20-second delay: "Reference to the circuit map shows that at the time Alonso was told he would be held for 20 seconds there were but 4 cars on the circuit his own and those of Fisichella, Hamilton and Raikkonen. All but Raikkonen entered the pits such that there can have been no necessity to keep Alonso in the pits for 20 seconds waiting for a convenient gap in traffic in which to leave." from: http://www.formula1.com/news/headlines/2007/8/6594.html nuff said... cristiano7mu : he he he |
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Aug 8 2007, 10:34 PM
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well they didnt accept it cause wut they say is wrong and incorrect based on the data of the track ( and thus therefore a lie)...
most forummers think tis cute to type sauce instead of source (kinda common in all forums) This post has been edited by evofantasy: Aug 8 2007, 10:36 PM |
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Aug 8 2007, 11:13 PM
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QUOTE(BuFung @ Aug 8 2007, 05:35 PM) the star?? I don't believe or even don't bother to read the star's sport news one wor.. reliable meh?? The Star also get their source from news agencies such as Reuters and AFP Added on August 8, 2007, 11:14 pm QUOTE(faris21 @ Aug 8 2007, 06:57 PM) Release both Massa and Kimi Then Massa and Kimi drive MotoGP Rossi and Lewis will fill the cockpitThis post has been edited by karhoe: Aug 8 2007, 11:14 PM |
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Aug 9 2007, 01:25 AM
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Ferrari deal for Alonso unlikely
History between Alonso and Jean Todt Link ~ http://www.f1-live.com Irvine slams 'disrespectful' Lewis Link ~ http://www.itv-f1.com Drivers to enjoy August break Some rest and relaxation for all Link ~ http://www.f1-live.com Haug confident Alonso will stay ''We have a valid contract'' Link ~ http://www.f1-live.com Jordan: `Lewis must tread carefully` Link ~ http://www.planet-f1.com QUOTE Eddie Jordan has warned Lewis Hamilton against the pitfalls of becoming embroiled in a feud with Fernando Alonso. The former F1 team boss wants the Championship leader to tread carefully within the McLaren team and avoid conflict. "It's magic what's happening, but he has to be very careful he doesn't get too political," Jordan told BBC Sport. "He has to be careful he doesn't say too much that ostracises him or puts him in a position where team boss Ron Dennis has to make a choice." Despite the feud within the Woking team, the Irishman believes that the 22-year-old has benefited from having Fernando Alonso as a team-mate. "I believe McLaren is giving him a car that's good enough because of what Alonso has brought to the team," explained Jordan. "So whether he likes to believe it or not, Hamilton has a benefit from Alonso being in the team. "Alonso does feel ostracised. He feels all the team, initially anyway, was going for Hamilton. He was the big story. "[Hamilton] is playing the media brilliantly, and driving like a champion - at this moment, you'd have to say Hamilton deserves to be world champion. "He's done everything brilliantly, he just has to be careful." This post has been edited by Raikkonen: Aug 9 2007, 06:53 AM |
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Aug 9 2007, 08:49 AM
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QUOTE(evofantasy @ Aug 8 2007, 10:34 PM) well they didnt accept it cause wut they say is wrong and incorrect based on the data of the track ( and thus therefore a lie)... well, if you answer incorrectly in exam doesnt mean you are lying while answering the question rite? most forummers think tis cute to type sauce instead of source (kinda common in all forums) Well some see it as a lie, some see it as a lame excuse by Mclaren and the way i see this, its an internal Mclaren problem.I doubt Alonso will jump ship to another team, as this season's Mclaren is a very good car; IINM both cars finished each and every race so far right? If Alonso switch teams, many people will consider him as a failure at Mclaren and I dont think he wants that. IIRC reading in F1 Racing moons ago that the 4 drivers (alonso,kimi,massa and hamilton) will only be available on 2010. I do hope that Alonso - Hamilton relationship doesnt breakdown as bad as Senna-Prost did. Added on August 9, 2007, 8:51 amEDIT : No one here subsribe to F1 Racing mag? or you guys read other mag? This post has been edited by evoHahn: Aug 9 2007, 08:51 AM |
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Aug 9 2007, 09:48 AM
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other mag? playboy might be hehehe...
for me just read from internet is enough...no extra money to buy mag |
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Aug 9 2007, 10:16 AM
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QUOTE(TOYO @ Aug 9 2007, 09:48 AM) other mag? playboy might be hehehe... I see. I find F1 Racing mag is a good read; its rm10 (the mag been getting thinner and thinner for me just read from internet is enough...no extra money to buy mag ) Got a lot articles and interviews. The one i like is Irvine and Max Mosley monthly columns. Its getting harder to find this mag, since my local mamak bookstore is not selling the mag anymore. So thats why i wondering if anyone here subscribe to the mag. |
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Aug 9 2007, 10:35 AM
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Ferarri?? I remember Ferarri boss say he never consider Alonso but all the while talking with Kimi last year (before they signed Kimi)..
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