you talk about understanding but do you? 700 pages and he does not understand everything? If he doesn't, I doubt he will be where he was.

He is suspended. So what? Information has been leaked. Damage has been done.

we can discuss this in the other thread. why have two threads on the same topic? lol. anyway my two cents are there. I think they answer why we are complaining.

Hu-hu

Michael was a great driver. Some loved him, others loathed him. Same goes with Alonso. Depends which side of the coin are you on. I am anti-Alonso and this gives me more reason to do so.

We are still open for any latest developments but so far from what I (eye) can see, Dennis fuming, lollipop up and Alonso stagnant, Alonso's trainer being "pulled by the collar". why so? We'll see.

I know Ron made a statement and I am sorry if you find my views biased but even being objective, if Alonso were to be guilty, surely Ron will not come out and say so and ruin his team's chances of a possible 1-2 finish by saying Alonso was guilty of so and so which would almost certainly relegate him to the back! And yes, usually race engineers make THAT decision but surely with that little time, Dennis must have briefed them saying that in such a situation, the main thing is that both drivers manage to set times. I find it hard to believe that the race engineer would not have practiced common sense in letting BOTH drivers from the same team to set times rather than Alonso solely setting a good time in the expense of Hamilton.

Then again, when we have a Ferrari running out of fuel, what gives?

I too agree that Alonso's car solely should be punished and therefore, he should be either sent to the back or disqualified from this race. It was just disgusting with the excuses and blaming on the team. Schumacher was crucified, now Alonso's taste of it.

If Alonso and Hamilton involved in any race incidents, Alonso will be hunted

If Ferrari can't win it, which is more likely by the race, then I want Hamilton.

Anyone knows why 5? I seem 5 to be too lenient. Even despite the fact I loathe him.

I too am not pleased with the decision to be honest but I think the FIA felt that McLaren as a team conspired with Alonso on the decision based on preceding statements made by various people. But I must say, if Alonso were to be sent to the back or disqualified, I would have felt that it would have been a just decision.

The Alonso-Hamilton row (whatever friction there is) is an internal problem but not allowing FAIR PLAY is wrong in F1, thus making it the FIA's problem. Even if it is against a teammate. Michael being allowed to win after team orders similarly can be said to be an internal problem but it was against sportsmanship. Stripping the team of constructor championship points is indeed harsh but I disagree with your views on "internal problem".

This post has been edited by kobe8byrant: Aug 5 2007, 02:55 PM

Was allowing Schumacher to win an act of sporting injustice in Barri's case? In that case, the team ordered Barri to let Michael through. Same case applies where as in this case Alonso obstructed a racing driver an opportunity to set a time. I have said earlier that I felt that McLaren do not deserve the penalty but Alonso does

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Added on August 5, 2007, 5:34 pmI think the current format is amazing. The old format was shite. All the action in last few minutes

This post has been edited by kobe8byrant: Aug 5 2007, 05:36 PM

1) As I said, I believe that this cannot be just dismissed as an internal problem and I gave the Ferrari example as that team orders whatsoever was also within the Ferrari camp but that too have repercussions. Though that was concerning team orders and this isn't, it still encompasses unsporting conduct, at least to me.

I think the FIA were harsh on McLaren but lenient on Alonso. Schumacher Monaco comes to mind.

2) Regarding Q3, well fuel burn is a waste of fuel (which is against the FIA environmental stance, I believe ) but if you can think of any other way to create unpredictability for race day, post them to the FIA

@Evo, but in Q1 and Q2, there's action as well. There's competition at every end. If we were to follow the last format, not many will tune into the first 40 minutes as who would care for a Minardi? But now, I tune in with glee.

Well, what Lewis did was wrong but it wasn't against FIA regulations (no rules for screwing up your teammates' strategy) but what Fernando did was against regulations as he held up a competitive driver/even if it is his teammate from setting a lap time. Yes, no where it is said that a driver should take a certain amount of time to complete a pit stop but the PIT STOP HAD COMPLETED and Alonso was there stagnant for several seconds which held up Hamilton. Besides, the reason given by Alonso was rather LAME

EDIT: Alonso is still to blame but Hamilton should have his share of it as well, which I must admit, the British media have ignored.

This post has been edited by kobe8byrant: Aug 7 2007, 02:11 PM

i think it should be 10 pm if not 12 am monday, no? why 2 am? and all the better. after MU, watch F1 XD

cool....RAIN RAIN COME AGAIN, KOBE WANTS F1! Commentary has improved on F1. Slater still sounds like an ass on fire but the new guy (not Goodwin) sounds promising during yesterday's F1 quali.

If Kimi were to be in front, I would be sure Kimi would be leading the race. Fact it was two prancing horses, I doubt the team would have been happy if Kimi went any closer to Massa. And through the pitstops? IF Kimi put in more fuel, Hamilton could have gotten second unless they took Massa in first. Whatever it is, Hamilton's tyre blow was the happiest moment in F1 since........ the last race

Thank God for Lewis it wasn't like Richard Hammond's crash though.