Unless Ferrari got a spy inside, if not how they going to know. I dont think its as easy as said.
They aint using it this year doesnt mean next year they wont.

I think myself hate Alonso a lot, but seem like other hate him a lot more than I did. LOL...

Honestly the rivalry in McLaren should be left alone for them to solve it. Its kinda sad to see Alonso being penalised for something like that. As much as you would hate him, he is a pretty good driver. If FIA wants fair play then dont make this kind of qualifying. Resort to the old method whereby everyone qualify one by one. This should solve the matter. Fair play? Come on..

Those who believe in fair play is very naive IMO.
Alonso is the senior and he's the one providing the data while Hamilton just using it. If the team is responsible for that, then the drivers should listen to their boss and we wont have this drama going on.

Everyone rooting for Hamilton for his sweet baby face smilies..
LOL...

I think he's wicked.. and I think if Raikonen cant catch them, I support Alonso to win WDC.. he's a monkey with great skills IMO.. Hamilton, just a rookie tiger with pig skin cover who knows nuts about setting up a car.

Hamilton can go f*** swivel if he kept doing that. He's the one who ignited and causing such ruscus, now he put an innocent show saying someone doesnt want to talk to him. Pls.. fair treatment? Who on earth would believe it.

IMO, Traction Control ban will definately affect everyone, especially those smooth and silky one like Massa. Even if you spin your rear wheel, doesnt always means you will end up spinning unless you make mistakes. By removing TC, drivers will have to behave themselves and not pushing too hard or else will eats up its rear tyres faster.

The problem with todays' F1 races lies within the track themselves. While trying to make it as difficult and challenging, the track gone from wide to narrow, and lots of slow corners which would seperate the best from the rest. But it has a negative effect on the action.

IMO, FIA should reintroduce V10 engine. It really makes a whole lot difference in terms of overtaking. Not only that, it also bring back the problem of cooling. Really hate to see them queueing in Q3.

Traction control wont affect the speed too much, but will have more effect on driving style, and tyres wear rate. Its gonna give drivers harder time when they race side by side for 60 laps.

The real thing start at 8pm..
So stay tuned..

I really wanna complain Astro liao. Damn f***ed up lar.
How many live qualifying they delay liao this year?
Someone should write them an APPRECIATION LETTER FOR DELAYING THESE LIVE TELECAST THAT WE PAID FOR!!!!

ya.. kimi off by a sec from Alonso time..
I wonder if he's a bit paranoia now... LOL

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Added on September 8, 2007, 8:45 pmBTW, I do wonder what has happened to Laugh Schumacher?
One of the best paid not even in Q2.. I think Alex Yoong would remained in F1 for years had he taken Willi Webber as his manager... LOL

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Added on September 8, 2007, 8:59 pmAlonso almost certain P1...
1:21:997... 4 tenths faster than Hamilton and beat Ferrari's by almost a second (Massa) and over 1sec (Raikonen)...

This post has been edited by kapitan: Sep 8 2007, 08:59 PM

1. Alonso
2. Hamilton
3. Massa
4. Heidfeld
5. Raikonen

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Dont be so foolish la.
If McLaren is faster when using Ferrari data, this definately stamp a mark on Ferrari own butt. You wanna say Ferrari have the data but dunno how to use it? I think it has something to do with Ferrari longer wheel base design. This track is a bit similar to the one in Montreal, Canada. Somehow Ferrari car doesnt work well with these track. Ferrari cars seems to work well with tracks that have fast sweeping corners like Silverstone or Magny Cours or even Turkey.

Still cant accept the fact?
Its over.. McLaren is guilty for possesing the documents.
Thats it.

Get over it and focus on the race ba.

This post has been edited by kapitan: Sep 11 2007, 07:43 AM

Hahahaha...
True also hor, but then again, the point was did McLaren make use of any of Ferrari data which they claimed they didnt..
And also hor, Stephney approach Honda too, but Honda didnt give a damn about it, why?
Cos when someone aimed to gain fame and victories by any mean, they dont give a damn shit about rules..
Nothing to lose..

Just like when MSC tried to bang JV out lastime..
Its all or nothing..

Hahahaha...

McLaren complain about flexi wings?
No? Fairy wings on rim?
No? Moveable floor?

Who was that? LOL...

Its sports after all and ppl watch sports not for winning or losing at times. Its the excitement that counts. I still feel very much love watching Ferrari vs McLaren battle on the track.

I really dont get it. Why are we still debating this topic.
Everyone is spying one another. Ferrari tap McLaren lines and McLaren tap Ferrari lines (read F1-Live article about Kimi report to FIA). At the end of the day, its all about fair play. Even though McLaren did use the data, Im still wondering whether its possible to really use them on their cars without any problem.) Its even more surprising to see that Ferrari data has better effect than it does on a Ferrari car. Hahaha.

Anyway, what has been done, was done and we all have to accept the fact whether like it or not. I still support F1, for the technology, excitement, media and personality it brings. We just hope that we wont see the same case again next year. FIA decide to punish McLaren. Thats it. Its useless to punish the drivers because they are not the one who triggered the espionage. I think Ron Dennis should be punished for letting it happened in his camp although he reiterate his innocent. This is not Malaysia. Tak tau attitude sounds ridiculous to me.

Honestly if McLaren really make better use of Ferrari data, then let it be lor. This is the worst humiliation one can expect when your data can make your opponent even faster than your own car. LOL...

For me, this year marks another era of F1 where Fernando Alonso, Hamilton, Raikonen and Massa will battle it out. This is the start, therefore the picture still not very clear. Next year will be a real test between all of them (except for Alonso I guess since he's rumoured to join Renault).

Like I said, there;s no need to debate liao. We all knew teams spied on each other. Its sort of like fair play. But then McLaren has gone too far this time, thus being punished. I dont believe everyone is innocent but there;s a limit where you would call a stop. McLaren didnt. Toyota did something like that too (not as serious) and was punished (not sure they were deduct points). What Im trying to say is I punch you, you punch me back la. Dont go and set my house on fire or go rape my daughter. Fair and square ma.

LOL...
Looks like another one in blurry case...

These are what we called inventor and followers. You can follow but what matter is that whether you can make the part works like it should. Its not that simple. Thats why I said its hard to prove McLaren actually used Ferrari data to gain the speed they are enjoying now.

I can try to make a fake passport with your pics and details, but I cant steal your passport can I? 2 different cases...

Its hard to judge. If its like 2002 where F2002 lapped virtually everyone except themselves, yes. This year, very close la. Its a combination of cars design, reliability, luck, drivers and strategy.