I'm still searching for the source. Not so soon ya.

Remember this?



On serious note, I've seen before cloud form like ancient village, very very detail and big, floating there quite some time before it deformed.

Maybe just coincidence.. but why can’t keep the photo of God? You have the statue etc etc etc.. if God show themselves on your photo, isn’t that some sign that they wanted to be seen? Because if He doesn’t. He could simply blink and all would be dissappear..

Woops.. scary hotel.. able to switch on/off electronics, move things around.. definitely not a normal ghost or wandering spirits.. either genie, or old and a bit strong one.

I think he would just sick.. it’s normal happened after energy clashes. But I’m not so sure tho.. i don’t know.. never asked further.. and my grandparents never mention anything after that.. 😝😝 I’ll ask my grandma tomorrow.

Exactly!!! Normal ghost/spirit usually only give you uncomfortable feelings. But the old and vengeful one... demmit!! It’s disturb and lurk you to harm yourself unintentionally. High level spirit, they could harm you Directly by push you from behind, strangle you, choke you etc etc etc

Ahhhh GH(Graveyard Hotel) taipei 🤣🤣🤣

Yeah.. sounds like Ba-Zhi

I wanna share my one and only experience as well because I'm curious too... lol
I'm a person that sleeps soundly and wakes up only when it's at least 7 hours of sleep. But there was once at one night, I woke up suddenly to find out there's a tall floating white figure (looks like a man) that shines brightly (there's even light on the wall) looking at my sister (we sleep together in a room), it disappeared right after I blinked my eyes (I stared at it for a few secs already). My instinct told me it was my 'Gong Gong' (mother's father), but I'm not sure... because I have no memory about how he looked like. FYI, there's Guan Yin, Di Zhu Gong and my father's side ancestral tablet. Is it possible that my mother's side ancestor came to visit my sister or something?

This post has been edited by Yenactiet: Apr 26 2020, 12:13 PM

The possibility is quite high, does any male relative from your Mother's side also keep the main ancetral tablet and your mom goes back there for prayers sometimes?

Yes definitely. Though only on important dates like my mother's parents death day (she stopped going for these few years), the Hokkien's Bai Tian Gong during Chinese New Year (IDK if this counts because it's prayer to Tian Gong? hmm..) and something like that. One thing to note is that she usually buy things (fruits those etc) for the ceremony (not sure what they're called) and give them to my uncle to perform the ceremony(?).

You win la bro! After 2 things fell still got mood for adult materials.

Oh speaking of ancestral tablets, I just remembered this. My aunt was living alone quite sometime back. She had my late grandpa's (her father) ancestral tablet. Now, my mom and her siblings believe in a medium so once awhile they'll just visit the medium to ask for general things. The medium said that there were theft/robbery attempts at my aunt's house at some nights. But the thieves would always see another figure in the house and just turned away. Turned out my late grandpa was always back there protecting my aunt.

yup.. tomorrow inside office i told my female colkeague about this and she ask me 'do you watch porn inside the room? '. i said... how do you know?

she replied... of course laa.. any entity will be bothered when you turn on volume watching something like that..


lol... 😹

My story:

Last year, my gf and I moved into a new condo.
I am not at home all the time due to my job.
Everytime when I was at offshore my gf will complain to me that the thing will disturb her at night. She can feel some black figure standing at the door while she was in the bedroom.
She also complained she has bad dream frequently and sometimes parazlyed and unable to wake up.
At first I thought aya maybe she alone that's why scare. So I told her, it is only a dream, dont think too much until my gf also lazy to tell me already (useless bf I am)

One day my cousin came to our condo to sleep there for few nights. He's quite religious. So after staying at our place for few nights, he told me that my place is quite keras and he said he will get some candle and Mother Mary statue blessed by priest for my home.

Wah.. suddenly remember my gf complaints. Meaning what my gf told me is true.

So I am curious and asked him what happened.
He said every time he can feel a present in 1 particular corner of the condo, sometime he will peak the thing looking at him with malicious intent. He didnt want to tell me because not to worry us.
But there is 1 night most keras, told me that my gf and I already slept, hes in the living room watching TV, he can feel some present standing in one particular corner. Felt very evil. Then he prayed, then thing like vanished.

Then he go sleep la since it is already midnight. In his dream, very bad very scary, dont remember what he told me but the thing curse him to death at the end.
Then his hand is pulled by someone, he woke up and saw some little children running towards the door then vanished.

Bout this little children, my gf told me before sometimes kacau her. So she bought some toys and candies give offering. Smh.

Walao, listen also my bulu kembang 2 inci.

Wah.. no wonder his face so pale in the morning.
Then we went to church go get some candles, mother mary statue, and holy water. At home, he pray some verse from a book not the bible, but a book about exorcism.
Then he advise us always pray to Jesus and Mother Mary. (I am catholic but not very religious, but my gf is a Buddhist)

So things get settle down. But there is one night my gf said when she kena disturbed, she prayed to her ancestor but still continue to parazlyed. So she remember what my cousin told us, then she prayed to Mother Mary, then the thing like magically gone and never kacau her anymore.

Haha. Now my gf even not a Christian she is more religious than me, everyday pray to Mother Mary.

Stories from my life that I can still remember:

1) During uni days at KK, I was staying at the uni's Jalan Tuaran campus. Encountered sleep paralysis twice there (I was staying alone in my own room). Scariest part was when I could feel something touching me when I was feeling paralyzed but could open my eyes. Until I said my prayers and mustered all my strength to push the 'thing' away and managed to sit up with nothing around me. That is the only place I've ever encountered sleep paralysis in my entire life so far.

2) During my working days, when I was posted on projects to KK (again!) I had the opportunity to stay in many different hotels every time I was posted to KK. There was 1 particular quite new boutique hotel in town above a famous shopping centre in KK town near the waterfront, (I don't remember the name though as it has been like more than 10 years back) that I was booked into. This room has a window to the corridor but covered by thick blockout curtains. I think I recall it was at night around after dinner maybe 8 or 9pm. The entire room was brightly lit but suddenly I noticed a shadow moving past right in front of me across the room. My bulu roma stood and I thought to myself what the heck was that? It couldn't be a shadow produced by something outside the window because of the thick blockout curtains. Thankfully, that was all and nothing scary happened after that.

3) This was during my honeymoon with my wife in Busan, Korea. We stayed in one of those 'love hotels' which was huge and had all the romantic stuff like jacuzzi etc. Nothing happened during the first few days, but one particular night when both of us were already asleep, I heard something growling to my ear in English "I'm coming to get you!". I immediately opened my eyes after that. It took me quite some time to try to get back to sleep after that, but I heard my wife screaming in fear like she was having a nightmare too as she was beside me. I tried to wake her up as I kind of sense something evil trying to disturb us that night. FYI, both of us usually pray the Rosary together before we sleep. I did not tell her what I heard before her nightmare until we were back to KL to avoid disrupting our honeymoon then LOL. Thankfully again, no other scary incidents after that.

This post has been edited by yeeck: Apr 26 2020, 05:18 PM

Cool story bro, can make movie already.

Somehow I feel bad for the stepmother. Stepson so rich still want to invade her territory. She use spell to protect her space. Not like she simply spell any random person. Don't understand how she is evil.

Only legit heir can keep ancestral tablets. He must be son of male line descendants. Ancestral tablet can't be duplicated. Take it or leave it. Please show respect when you're into it. If you are avid ancestors worshipper how come you don't know this rule? Why you call your father old man?

Don't tell me you are trying to steal other families' tablet and ancestors souls to feed your demon. Insap la, demon worshipper. Your avatar betrayed you.

LOL! You really need to spare or limit your claptrap against me. So many sweeping assumptions about me when you don't even know me in detail.

1) How do you know I am not the son of male line descendants? If it is according to your criteria, then not only am I qualified, but I am the MOST qualified in my family.

2) Whether or not the ancestral tablet can or cannot be duplicated is none of your fvcking business. I think it is more important to have someone who actually gives a shit about the ancestors than it is to follow traditions so strictly. I have seen enough eldest sons / sons / daughters who do not or stopped giving a shit about their ancestors, their graves or their tablets in these modern times. Don't even visit their ancestors during Qing Ming or even once a year to say hello at all! Don't even maintain a tablet at all in the family.

But hey, if a dumb fvck like you wants to strictly follow convention, by all means do it for YOUR end. I'll do what I think is reasonable and right on my side.

3) To me, while I do understand that tradition and convention needs to be maintained to a certain extent, I am also a non-traditionalist in the sense that I do not believe that an ancestral tablet can only be maintained by an eldest son, nor can daughters not maintain ancestral tablets, nor should there be ONLY ONE ancestral tablet. It just doesn't make as much sense as it should be..... if family members want to keep ancestral tablets so they can worship their ancestors, then why not allow them to do so? Why limit the right to maintain ancestral tablets to only a certain family member born of a certain order? Why differentiate stuff like surnames or who married into what family in modern times? Hell, with the small number of children we Chinese are popping out nowadays, and with how many folks prefer to go for religions with a lot more "after-life promise" to them than traditional folk religions, it is now quite uncommon for worship of ancestors or even visiting of graves to take place these years. I have seen enough unmaintained / unvisited graves in my lifetime at places like Jelutong, Malacca to come to an understanding, have spoken to enough people who give no shit of or believe in ancestral worship to ever venerate or pay their respects to those who came before them to know what the future development of traditional ancestral worship will be like.

If I should become deceased in the future, and if I have a daughter who wants to keep my ancestral tablet and sons who show no interest in maintaining a connection to me, you're god damned right I would prefer to stay with my daughter and accord her with as much blessings and protection as I could possibly muster. Regardless of who she marries or what freaking surname she carries.

I always thought human beings should be educated enough to the extent that they do not discriminate against family, whatever the order they were born in, or the gender they were born in. Maybe I am too far ahead of my time or your head is stuck too far up your own ass to consider that.

Honestly, when I enter the after-life after my time has come, I would love nothing more than to visit all my family members who have a tablet. A few days in this house, a few days in that house, visiting my children or nephews or nieces, regardless of their bloody surnames or how they look like. After-all, this is what FAMILY means to me.

4) I call my father whatever I want. Because at the end of the day, I bet I treat him far far better than how you treat YOUR own father (there, let me make a sweeping assumption on my end).

5) Who or what I worship is really none of your fvcking business.

On that note, I am putting you on my ignore list.

I sense demon. Having been asking for quite sometime.
Well well

My kampung people practice is as long the son has own family/married and own house then each can have their own ancestral tablet. Never heard this will weaken the power.
Never heard people keeping wife side. Imaging they behsong each other then fight and spoil fengshui. That’s the reason old people die die want to have male heir, so they have descendant to feed them when they dead.

In one side of my relative's family, the ancestral tablets are also split between the ancestral home and a "junior" son's home. Makes it so much more convenient to make prayers and offerings to them. Not like most of us can head back to the ancestral home even once a year nowadays, sigh.....

Tradition and convention holds that it should always be a son / husband that holds the family ancestral tablet, but if we were so beholden to traditions and conventions, we would still be riding horse and bullock carts today. Conventions need to be updated or new traditions need to be made when the old ones cannot hold water anymore. I see no reason why the ancestral tablets of both the husband's and the wife's side cannot co-exist harmoniously in the same household as long as they have been properly activated and spoken to.... family is family is family. Heck, sometimes the distant family treats you even better in substance than close family

It is honestly time to drop distinctions between sons and daughters in today's era. Well, that is my own personal belief lar anyway....

Besides, in that relative's ancestral home, there are ancestral tablets from the grandfather's side AND the grandmother's side sitting side by side. Didn't see any clash of energies or huge disaster or dire times happening.

This post has been edited by TheBornLoser: Apr 27 2020, 01:14 PM

I agree with you. My dad is the eldest in the family, and he has the ancestral tablet in his house. So does his youngest brother. We never thought of it as an issue tbh. On my mum's side it is not the eldest son who's having the ancestral tablet. Everyone will inform the families to come over to do the prayers / pay respect to my late grandparents. And that includes their sisters and their families. Even Ching Ming they never minded their sisters to come along, even though some of them have become Christians, but that's not exactly the point.

It's all in the mind / heart. Pretty sure my grandparents would love seeing all their children, grandchildren and great-grandchildren in harmony.

We have had Buddhist and Taoist sifus who helped us invite our ancestors into the ancestor tablet.

Why do we prefer to have one in our main house? So we can meet and gather together to pray, eat and catch up. This is our style of pilgrimage.

Can the ancestor tablets be duplicated? Yes, as long as you do a ritual to invite the spirits in from the grave, else the spirits wont know the way.

The most important is be filial piety. Small mistakes can be overlooked.

This post has been edited by New Klang: Apr 27 2020, 04:36 PM