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Janejan
post Apr 22 2020, 08:36 PM

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QUOTE(calodin @ Apr 18 2020, 09:48 PM)
Scatering the ashes in the wind or to the sea will have problem, the soul is scattered and will be very weak.

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What will happen to weak souls? Are they able to move on/ crossover/ reincarnate?

I know of one religion called bai tian gong ę‹œå¤©å…¬ (not the cny ritual) the deceased wear white shirt white pants send to cremation then ashes scattered to sea in klang. Commies and atheists also practice this.

How about mummified type like commie Mao? Same question what will happen to their soul?
Also in ghost stories, the soul attached to objects instead of own grave, is that possible?

QUOTE(calodin @ Apr 18 2020, 10:28 PM)
They can be spirits or something else (I call them "dan lain-lain). To put it in simple terms, different people with different energy or luck will see different stuff. if they move away when you walk near them, means your fire damn stong
That one no effect...they will have their fave violin with them.
Hell Guards, Dato kong, Orang Bunian, Penduduk...you name it lar....
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Don't mind I ask can you see own ancestors? Up to how many generation?

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post Apr 22 2020, 09:42 PM

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QUOTE(V429 @ Apr 19 2020, 11:38 AM)
Lady, remember I asked above question some time ago? I did not continue at the time because I'm worried some may take what I am about to say for a fact, but for the record it seems a bit too extreme that I am more towards the side of not believing this particular thing I heard.

I once heard that when a piece of land is too 'ganas', they bury young children or maybe babies alive in that land. As calodin mentioned they become so vengeful and so full of hate that this in itself counters the original 'ganas'-ness of the land. So they proceed to develop the land and erect buildings without trouble, but after a period of time has passed the hateful energy of the buried young ones return and cause bad things to happen for those on the land (after development is completed and properties sold to end-user presumably).

Does the above make sense? Or is such practices unlikely? BillCollector as I understand you're knowledgeable in that industry, just curious have you heard of the above before?
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This practice existed from ancient China to Japan to SEA. Not long ago the news in HK, an old building was demolished and they found children bones buried under ( if I'm not Alzheimer mess up memories) same tactics used to build bridge, they tied and buried one boy and one girl at both ends of bridge. Go Google it, many such stories.
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post Apr 22 2020, 10:07 PM

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QUOTE(calodin @ Apr 19 2020, 12:34 PM)
Cow Head and Horse Face are only part of a larger team, there are a lot more type of Hell Guards.

1) The spirits can show you many forms, their younger self, current self or if they died in a horrible state, they can show you that also, basically their normal state is just like when they are living, only in monochrome and they are a little bit transparent.

2) Yes, there are Mat Salleh ghost, basically no different from the living world lar, if you go to an airport, you see an Indian lady and a caucasian lady, you will know one is Indian and the other one is a caucasian person.

3) I think the HK movie "Keeper of Darkness" has the most accurate representation of "ghost". Annabelle and Valak are Demons...in my 41 years of life, I've only ever meet a Demon once, it is something that I do not ever ever want to meet again, it is something of pure evil, disgusting, grotesque and overwhelmingly powerful.
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Hi sifu, no 3 more story please.
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post Apr 22 2020, 10:28 PM

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QUOTE(onetwoswitch @ Apr 19 2020, 02:58 PM)
calodin and ladytarot99, sorry to trouble you. But I am really curious.

I have a Sabahan friend who told me about her father getting possessed by animal 3 to 4 times a year. Specifically, this is a centepede, according to her, he will be normal and suddenly just drop on the floor and start moving like a centepede. Regardless when he was watching TV or eating or sleeping, it happens randomly. The family has accepted this, they are normal with it and do not disturb as he would crawl towards altar and stay in front of the altar for a while before coming back to sense. Never did self harm or anything like that.

So my question is:

1) Is this for real? Animal spirits are also wandering the earth? And capable of possessing someone?

2) If yes, then why we dont hear this in states like KL? Such incidents seems to only happen in east malaysia.

Thanking you in advance for your thoughts regarding this.
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I've seen a woman possessed by chicken spirit. She always linger around penang komtar where places sell chicken like kfc, chicken rice shop, supermarket. her behavior and movement resemble chicken. She was here before MCO.
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post Apr 22 2020, 11:40 PM

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QUOTE(calodin @ Apr 20 2020, 12:19 AM)
Susuk is a type of charm, normally a golden needle it a small piece of gold that is folded that is embedded underneath the skin. Mostly lady get this charm so that when other people look at them, they will be seen as very pretty and irresistible. The only issue is, if the person has this charm in them and it is their time to die, it's very hard for them to die, like suffering, until the Bomoh that put the charm in, takes it out, but there lies the problem, the girls normally get the charm when they are young, and the Bomoh normally is already middle age or older, so by nature, the bomoh would have passed away already.
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Heard that celebrities also wear them and they pantang over certain fruits. The time PSY was invited to Penang, after his performance, he was invited to stage for loh sang with jibby, losmah and others, the MC keep talking on mic inviting him come out and jibby already up stage waited so long but PSY never came out. Rumors has it he has susuk and pantang to the ingredients in loh sang.
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post Apr 23 2020, 12:02 AM

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QUOTE(V429 @ Apr 22 2020, 11:32 PM)
Keyword please.
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hitobashira
https://www.pitt.edu/~dash/sacrifice.html

Wow didn't know angmo and Indian also believe it. Not sure only legends or real history because they don't keep record of what they see and learnt and pass down to children unlike Chinese did.

Search children sacrifice in building bridge. Search malay word you might bump upon an article I read some time ago about Borneo legend.

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post Apr 23 2020, 12:29 PM

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QUOTE(hc7840 @ Apr 23 2020, 10:41 AM)
What she doing there? Seeking revenge for her jiken comrade
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She act like the moment chicken dying. Eyeballs hang up, mouth open, tongue point out, palms and fingers bend backwards, dragging her legs in small steps walking in and out of shops repeatedly.
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post Apr 23 2020, 12:32 PM

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QUOTE(hc7840 @ Apr 23 2020, 10:48 AM)
Why First Lady no pantang?
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Different bomoh, diff type, diff pantang. Now I recall back I once knew a beautician who pantang banana.
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post Apr 23 2020, 08:39 PM

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QUOTE(calodin @ Apr 23 2020, 03:16 PM)
Disclaimer: The following comments are from my personal experience and thoughts. I have no ill intention towards any religion or people of certain religion.....so okie dokie...on with the story.

This incident was what started my interest in Demonology and it's also one of the most terrifying experiences in my life (after this incident I've been reading up a lot on Demons). This happened back when I was around 2o year old, I was still in Uni and during the Sem breaks, I will on and off help my sifu with stuff, from something as menial like assembling a bookcase he bought to assisting him when people request for his help (he has a few other disciples but everyone has a day job, so not everyone will be around at the same time)

It was a Friday so I was looking forward to a night session of lepakking with my ex Form 6 schoolmates. 9.30am I received a call from my sifu ask me to go over to help him (maybe because I am the only one that is free). So drove my very old Toyota KE70 wagon to my sifu's place. Greeted my Sifu and he ask me to pack some stuff, Salt, Rice, and one really big Takrut that he left on the table. I've never seen the Takrut before. So my Sifu drove us to this area where normally a lot of rich people stay, and we stop at the front gate of one of the bungalows in that area.

Coming down from the car, I immediately felt the urge to run away. Like...really run, like "Run fat boy..run like you've never run before" kinda feel. My sifu say my face and told me "Everything will be ok, now, the Takrut you pack just now, wear it now so that it touches your skin, so I hung the takrut on my neck inside my T-shirt. The Takrut felt very heavy..like I'm wearing a suit of armour. My sifu told me, "Later we will meet a young girl, she is in trouble and we are here to help. Later there will be her relatives there, but they won't be able to hold her down, your job is to hold her down while I do my job, with the Takrut you are wearing, you are protected and you can hold her down"

I took a deep breath and said ok. So we rang the bell and this Uncle opened the door. We went into the bungalow and there were a few people there, 3 guys and another auntie which i assume is the wife of the uncle. The 3 guys are the elder brother of the little girl. Seems that this is a Catholic family as I see a small statue of Mother Mary at the living room. So the auntie greeted us and then she guided us upstairs to one of the room. The 3 brothers were also following. From outside the room, I can felt enormous pressure. I can feel that something is in there that was Pure Evil and Hatred. My Sifu ask me to give him the bag with the packed Salt and Rice and he grap the plastic, opened them and grab a handful of salt and put it in his pocket, then another handful of rice and put it in the other pocket. His words before going into the room was "Do not be afraid, you are protected, we are going to save the little girl today and it is your fate to help"

The auntie opened the door and we entered the room. When coming into the room suddenly the immense pressure was gone. In the room was a reading table with a PC, a clothing cabinet and a bed. There was a Cross on the wall diretly above the bed, and on the bed was the girl, I think she's about 15-17 years old, and she was staring at us smiling. She greeted her mom and her brothers and ask who are these 2 strangers (she meant me and my situ). The auntie then look at my sifu and said "This is what "It" does, we have had the Priest (I assume she meant Catholic Priest) come here to do blessing and this was how "It" always tries to fool everyone". (the conversation was in Mandarin)

My sifu spoke to the girl "Let's not waste time, we were able to see and sense your presence, hiding from us is not use, we know you are here". The girl replied "Uncle, I don't know what you are talking about". Then my Sifu took outa small dagger, this dagger also I've never seen before, but I know the handle is made from very old amulets crushed and formed into the handle and the metal probably is "lek lai" and he touch the tip of the dagger on the bed. The girl suddenly growled and the face was still smillnig but she talked without movied her mouth "This does not concern you monk, our business are with the lamb of Christ". It was a very low growly voice, and it was when she finished her sentence that suddenly, there was a darkness that envelope half the room. The immense pressure was back, I blinked at that moment and from the girl now I saw the "thing"'s real form. it was very hard to describe, but i knew at the moment, I wanted to throw up, and the smell was terrible. Feelings of fear, disgust, sadness was seeping into me, then my Sifu just tap me on the forehead and I just returned back to my normal self.

My Sifu started to negotiate with the thing...what would it take for it to leave this girl alone, of course then the thing spouted all these cuss words and say this girl is mine, I will never let her go. So my Sifu grab some salt from his pocket, touched it with the blade of the dagger and blew into it then threw the Salt at the girl. Seems the salt has a burning effect. Then next was the rice, so my sifu kept on throwing salt and rice at the girl until the darkness retreated. The girl basically screamed in pain all the while. When the darkness retreated, the girl slump down and went still. It felt like only a few seconds, but actually half and hour has passed by.

I said to my situ "Something is not right...still can feel that the thing is here..." My sifu said yes, it's trying to hide from us. Then my sifu suddenly use the dagger he was holding to stab the Cross that was on the wall on top of the bed. Black liquid started to flow from the center of the cross. My sifu ask me faster take the balance of the salt and rice, empty it into the yellow bag that I bought with me, and hold the bag open, my sifu basically hammered the dagger into the wooden cross then took the cross with the dagger jutting out from it and threw it inside the bag. I then close the strings of the bag. The atmosphere in the room immediately change back to normal. The girl opened her eyes and started crying asking her mom what was going on. We left the room and went downstairs. The Uncle was waiting downstairs and when he saw my Sifu, he ask my Sifu how was it, my sifu replied that everything is settled, but now don't have time to talk, need to faster go back to the temple to follow up on the thing inside the bag. So we drove back to the temple, and at 6pm, my teacher's other disciple got of work and came to help him. Before I left, I returned the big takrut to my situ. My sifu say he almost forgot, this takrut will protect me but can only use for a short while as it's too strong for me to stand. The takrut left a mark on my chest like when you go sunbathing and you left a book on your chest so end up a shape  of the book if left on the chest.

I also told my situ, during the moment just before you tap my forehead, I was feeling very scared, disgusted and sad, and I think I manage to glimpse for a while what was the thing. My sifu then ask me what I saw. I told him I saw people who was still living in jungles and they were some sort of civilization, with small pyramids built maybe as place of worship as I also say the jungle people was making life human sacrifice to something that they were praying to. Then I saw an image of the same jungle people but this time, some more advance people on horseback with flintlock rifle attacking the jungle people, either killing them or imprisoning them and they were after the gold that these jungle people had. My sifu said probably what I saw was some memories of the thing, and ask me maybe just do some research.

So I started to search the internet (during that time still the 56k dial up modem ar) so it took me sometime, but then I found out probably the jungle people were the Aztec or Incans who made human sacrifice and prayed to these Demigod. Then came the Spanish Conquistadors who invaded them, took their gold, converted them to Christianity or killed those who won't. My deduction would be why a lot of time Demons don't seem to bother people that are not from the Abrahamic religions is due to this kind of things happening.

To explain it in easier terms, these beings, the Demigods, they were enjoying the adulation of the Aztec and Incans, they are given fresh human sacrifice, suddenly come another factor, took their people away, took away their adulation, took away the sacrifice that they were enjoying and now their people also betrayed them by now praying to the God in Christianity. So these Demigod, these beings of course will be extremely pissed off with the faction that took everything away from them. Hence unit now they are still looking for payback.

The story is a bit long, but I am very glad I finally got it off my chest. Even my mom don't know this happened, because me and my sifu never told her.
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Wow that's scary and dangerous. Thanks for sharing experience. Any idea how your sifu dispose that demon?

I agree with your views. That explains why certain religion followers are prone to possession and hysteria. There was a time when I seriously wanted to embrace Christianity, I was told new believers are likely to get disturbed by demons because they try to scare people away from true God and religion. Must have faith and how to to pray when encounter disturbance bla bla bla.. but I didn't encounter anything šŸ˜‚ …maybe faith not strong šŸ˜‚ better just remain half Christian, then when found out it's ajaran sesat can cabut šŸ˜‚ I'm exposed various religions and been to many Churches just for research purpose. Some Church really bangwall.gif bangwall.gif bangwall.gif


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post Apr 23 2020, 09:04 PM

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QUOTE(kellyisevil @ Apr 23 2020, 03:00 PM)

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I was from same school and heard the horror stories. My era nobody encountered paranormal. Only one time got one outsider sneak into our classroom take poison suicide. Still, no ghost seen. That classroom is at ground floor right behind school hall. Didn't know there's most haunted classroom, which one?

If got ghost also can't be American. The school was built by French nunts and Penang was British colonial. Japanese time White ass brush their ass and run, after Japanese gone only they came back fight communist. Yes the school was use by Japs as lock up to torture war criminals, more precisely CPM and local fighters, not white ass.

That well was dig by Sir Francis light and named after him. My time only two rows of toilets and yes it's locked as two classes sharing one toilet. Where have space to set up camping tent?


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post Apr 23 2020, 09:43 PM

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QUOTE(kellyisevil @ Apr 23 2020, 09:28 PM)
2 Indigo. the one where the american carved with their belt onto the wall. We get visitor walking in to look at the wall
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At my time, one class one toilet.
We set the camp at the canteen area.
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Oops I'm not aware of this thing or maybe Alzheimer liao. But where is 2 indigo?
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post Apr 23 2020, 09:46 PM

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QUOTE(kellyisevil @ Apr 23 2020, 09:30 PM)
I totally no impression this thing exist. sad.gif
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post Apr 24 2020, 03:19 PM

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QUOTE(ladytarot99 @ Apr 24 2020, 12:28 AM)

Susuk is the art of inserting object to the body for many purposes. The real susuk done in certain point to open the chakra, when the chakra point opened, it would then enhance your own energy for healing, beauty, strength etc etc etc.. so basically it’s like an acupuncture but you leave the needle permanently there. It has no pantang, and no such thing as difficult dying unless it’s remove by bomoh thing. 0 problem, but the chances to get someone who really2 can do it is 1:100,000,000. The practitioners also need to fasting and meditate together with the customer for 40days to open the chakra.
ā€œThe claimed as susuk but it’s notā€ that famous amongst actress politicians or whatever is it a different story. 70% of the practitioners who claimed themselves able to do the practice is actually just a conman, while 29% is an opportunist. Instead of really put the ā€œthingā€ into the correct point(which honestly they have no abilities to do this) the opportunist by then assign spirits to rasuk the client instead and quietly songlap the gold or whatever it is šŸ˜…. And yes, the spirit usually dont like certain veggies, fruits or whatever and have difficulty to ā€œgoā€ unless the original bomoh remove it, because its like the customer give their body as those spirits vessel. And ewww.. the face would be disturbing.. somebody like calodin wouldn’t ever go Cheong I bet 🤣🤣🤣, I don’t think he could deal with the disturbing views and smells..

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Maybe you are talking about different school of susuk whereas susuk here have pantang larang.

Susuk merujuk kepada memasukkan sesuatu bahan asing ke dalam badan bagi mendapatkan sesuatu kelebihan. Pelbagai bahan boleh digunakan, bergantung kepada apakah keinginan pengguna. Antara kebaikan yang kononnya boleh didapati dengan memakai susuk adalah muka sentiasa dipandang manis, tidak berusia, kebal dsb.

Pemakai susuk biasanya mempunyai beberapa pantang larang seperti tidak boleh memakan beberapa bahan tertentu iaitu pisang tanduk, pisang abu, tidak boleh melintas di bawah tali kain, dan lain-lain, bergantung kepada jenis susuk yang dipakainya.

https://ms.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Susuk

Susuk is nothing close to acupuncture. Acupuncture is to trigger inactive nerves back to function or to temporary deactivated nerves to achieve anesthesia, nothing supernatural. In fact acupuncture is most natural way to treat illness. Many misunderstanding regarding acupuncture as I heard uztaz say it is haram because involved black magic. Spreading of false info leads to more misunderstanding.

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post Apr 24 2020, 03:57 PM

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QUOTE(kellyisevil @ Apr 23 2020, 10:48 PM)
WHAT!! This is the block next to the basketball court.
Ignorance is bliss.

Did you also know there is a tunnel connecting CLS to SXI?
it was spooky for sure.
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Basketball court rclxub.gif do you mean tennis court?
Tunnel rclxub.gif do you mean overhead bridge?
I showed your link to ex classmates they also rclxub.gif never seen those pictures.
Scribble on wall seen before but not gold color and the frames no impression.
Maybe old already, unimpressive staff fading from memories rclxub.gif

BTW CLS consists of three schools, SK, SMK and private school, a chapel and nun home. I'm only familiar with smk and chapel, other territories I never intrude so not aware.
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post Apr 24 2020, 04:19 PM

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QUOTE(Chrono-Trigger @ Apr 23 2020, 10:41 PM)
Virtue and morality serve as a strong ward against evil assailant. Mind is definitely weakened a lot when a person takes drugs or intoxicants. A strong mind pervading with loving kindness is good protection
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I did escape a 666 accident without a single scratch and bruise, car total loss.

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QUOTE(mikesully @ Apr 24 2020, 04:02 PM)
theres some thai movie about krasue (penanggal)

aired on astro tonight... i wanna watch it and see how thais take on this supernatural being

i have watch pholipines movie about the creature dame species as krasue... its called manananggal... quite vicious and scary
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I read Ming ( Cheng Ho era) history book, they recorded penanggal practice in Borneo and Vietnam. If anyone interested I'll find the Wikipedia link and give translation.
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post Apr 24 2020, 07:27 PM

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QUOTE(kellyisevil @ Apr 24 2020, 05:52 PM)
There was no more private school during my times. I was speaking of SMK.
Which year are you from?
No, basketball court. There was a basketball court during my times.
Tunnel was not know to the public. It connects SMK CLSĀ  (entrance to theĀ  underground tunnel is via the hall) to SXI, it was built during war times to transport food.
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I mean maybe that classroom and compound did not belong to smk during my time hence I didn't see.
Tunnel? Never heard got such tunnel. Still accessible? You seen before? This is something new to me. ohmy.gif

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post Apr 24 2020, 09:17 PM

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QUOTE(gaffelierefigeac @ Apr 21 2020, 02:19 PM)
I live alone.
Not afraid they will take a liking to you and follow you back?
I have my noise reduction headphones, wearing it i usually cant make out what they are saying but they are still yabbing away. During bath or before bed is the only time can hear but i have trained myself to not associate any thoughts with what they say or they will try to lead thoughts astray.
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Do you hear them when you're outside, at work place, mall, restaurant, driving?
You mentioned since earliest housing in PJ, it must have been decades they bothered you. You are smart enough to realize they can't harm you physically and did the right thing by ignoring them. Maybe you can play some mantra to reduce the annoyance. Sharing wealth with the needy is a way to contra bad luck.
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QUOTE(kellyisevil @ Apr 24 2020, 07:39 PM)
yes I have!
I was a prefect so I had special access to a lot of places.
but the tunnel is locked and not suppose to be accessible by anyone.
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Seriously this is first time I heard this tunnel. Any reference for me?
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QUOTE(mikesully @ Apr 24 2020, 07:49 PM)
oool please....
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I'm still searching for the source. Not so soon ya.

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