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Beginner's Guide from V3

All post by sifu etigge in V2

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Where to buy folding bicycle in Malaysia?

Almost any bicycle store will carry some folding bicycle.
Find the store nearest to you and call!

List of bicycle dealers in Malaysia by Lerun

Note: Lerun updated their website in 2017 and removed this dealer listing. This is a very bad decision, contact them and voice your opinion.


Used and New Folding bike search @ Bicycle Buy & Sell

Cycling Kuala Lumpur - Bicycle Map
Online version


Folding bike/ bicycle blogs

Hands On Bike - still keep on modding...
The Samosaurus Chronicles - more to shooting arrows now...
Ahpek Biker - apek still strong
Happy Happy - unker sin still cycling
Small Wheels Big Smile - still ok
Love the Fold - still ok


Searching for folding bike and parts in taobao.
If you clicked the links below and can't get the search results, you need to set the taobao page to " China "
on the top left corner of the page.

1. Folding bike - 折叠自行车

2. Folding bicycle parts - 折叠车 配件

This post has been edited by H2D: Aug 20 2017, 11:54 AM

Types of folding bicycles, folding bikes, - Youtube vids


FUBI


Somerset folding bike.


Dahon Eezz / Jifo


Dahon Clinch


Brompton


Pacific cycle CarryMe

ORI folding bike


Strida folding bike


A-bike A bike


Nanoo folding bike by Jee Ann Bicycles


Birdy by pacific cycles


Tyrell Fx folding bike


IF Move by Pacific cycles


IF Reach by Pacific cycles


Jango Flik


Di Blasi R32


5Links


Montague


Changebike


Giant MR4


Doppelganger Squalo


Helix


2015 Reach R20


Chedech - ( full carbon brompton replica frm korea )


CARACLE-S World's Smallest 20inch Folding Bicycle


Tyrell IVE


Tern Eclipse X22 26 inch


FSIR by FNHon


Bike Friday Tikit - 'fastest' folding bike


Dahon Dash P18


Jaunty folding bike


Kwiggle


Dahon Curl


Xiaomi Mi Qicycle Electric Folding Bicycle


This post has been edited by H2D: Aug 21 2017, 11:56 PM

reserve

reserved

Thanks for the summary above.

Good summary!

Thanks for the new thread!

New home.

Dahon Curl

How to fold and unfold

https://youtu.be/7Xmd5Zw2IMU

so finally dahon use the ugly humpback version curl...

May be Dahon follows design and color scheme of 2017 superbikes like Ducati Monster, KTM Duke or BMW Motorrad with hump fuel tank and flaming red.

Still think that they should put more effort on the vertical fold model, eezz and Q8 instead of coming up with a brompton alike,with a ugly hump version.

The Curl has been around even before the Qix folding mechanism of the EEzz is invented. At that time, Brompton's 30 years patent haven't expire yet and also when the first launch was done, they made a mistake of pricing the Curl way too high as they had the Schlumpf Drive ( front internal crank gears) and also a rear internal gear incorporated. Although very ideal gear systems, it was too expensive for an unproven model. That's why it failed and over the years they display it in every bicycle exhibitions but fail to launch. Even now, they launched first with kick starter program and later the limited edition series.

I would have bought two if it was launched a few years ago and even after requesting through email for special 2 units (it was sold in US then) , they ignored my email without reply. The hump, some say 'UGLY' is subjective la. The hump is needed to accommodate the wheels (18 inch, bigger than the Bs) under the frame when folded. It folds more compact than the Brompton worr! But look at their other innovation, the stronger and lighter square top tube and especially the rear triangular latch connector which is like a non fold when unfolded. The Curl is guaranteed for riders till 150 KGS. That's an improvement in rigidity!

It would be a better commuting bike compared to Bromptons (that's what they were striving for, I think ). Lighter, folds smaller, 18 inch wheels (not 16inch), proven Shimano Nexus internal hub gears..........all this features are already an advantage over the Bromptons. But then, Bromptons will be Bromptons in popularity. It will take some time to dislodge their fan loyalty.

If only they sell the Curl cheaper with less specs, so it can be afforded easily.

i need curl, brompton is an status symbol and a bit not affordable to me.
Hope Curl will be below 5k that would be a sweet pricing spot.
I am waiting eagerly to buy one.

very brompton-ish with a very odd looking hump.
wonder can it take 20inch wheels

earlier post member said in thailand convert to rm ~4.5k wor..

and sifu said here selling ~ 7k +++

fake bromp lagi best la... ~ 2k++ or lesss ....

Fake Brompton some commented quite flexi
thailand convert 4.5k i will fly in to get one.

Letting go my unused accesories cheap2. Ergon gp2 grip and moon meteor 200s. Rechargeable via usb. Pm if interested.


This post has been edited by Jay Chua CC: Aug 22 2017, 02:13 PM

i just checked,

on Nava bike thailand FB posted on 30 Jun,

they are taking orders for limited edition of Curl I8 for 35900 thai baht which roughly is 4.6++ K RM

and in singapore the price for this limited edition is 2600SGD which is about 8.181K RM ....

This post has been edited by H2D: Aug 22 2017, 02:15 PM

i'm hoping it's around 3-4k range. 5k is already near brommie's price territory. status symbol or not, it still screams quality in it's workmanship and the price of the used brommie doesnt drop too much. it has it's values.

brommies copies, when u see it in real life, really lacks in terms of finishing works and the folding capabilities is not as neat as the brommies. well, probably the curl will not fall in the same categories as those china copies anyway. chedech provides brommie carbon fame lookalike, but when you fold it, you cant roll it. and it lacks front fender too.

there's always pros and cons with these copies, with the most obvious pros is the price. it's either whether you can live with the cons.

8k? that's basically more expensive than 2017 B

this price for the limited edition... will have to wait til the normal edition comes out next year...

and duno when will reach msia.. 2019 ... ??

Nothing can't be copied If someone put their mind to it. Come on! It's only a bunch of pipes!

Anyway, I am anti-establishment… Brompton has enough business to rip filthily gigantic profit, they don't need my money…

It's everyone's dream to rip obscenely ridiculous huge profit. Dahon and me included...

This post has been edited by KenC: Aug 22 2017, 07:40 PM

I believe that Dahon Curl i8 is one of the 43 Eurobike 2017 award winners. They will be announced on 30th August, first day of Eurobike Show.

Then sales of i8 start to fly next year...

The Curl i8 is their limited edition and I think after the 500 units, they will turn back to Curl i3. Else they will disappoint their first 500 buyers. Also I don't know if the rear triangle uses 127 mm or 135 mm hub width. Nexus can be used on both length but the Shimano Alfine and Rohloff can only fit in 135mm. If it is 127 mm , then it's a pity! Same as the Brompton.

As good as Bromptons are, or as many riders thinks they are (to me I don't think so) , nothing is permanent. Just five years ago, folding bikes are not a craze as it is now. During those days, Bromptons are the king and people would pay premium for the pedigree. Now with most if not all major bike brands are into it, more research and funds are allocated to folding bikes. Just google and see all the concept folding ways there are. Bromptons depends on the brand, the classical pedigree and loyal die hards, apart from that nothing else in their products is actually worth the bucks you pay for it. Their patent on the folding has expired and there are no new technology that Bromptons will offer. In fact Brompton has been trying hard to maintain their popularity with new colors, new events, new etc. but their bikes stays the same. That's because of their image of tradition and classic.

Avid riders can differentiate the good and bad of the replicas from China but a new rider can't. To them, the replicas looks the same as the original. Just imagine, if a new rider goes to Kepong or Billyshop here in Taiping, look at the 360s. They fold the same and cost 2.3K then he walks over to Eng Hern and looks at the Brompton. Then he get the shock of his life, the cost almost 7K Then he carries it, Wah! it's even heavier than the former one. You can't ride because most shops don't have a test bike, so you can't judge. See the scenario?

Even now, I can see the replicas in FB page on the rides my friends are doing. It's easy to spot actually, the handle post is straight unlike the original 'B' which curves to the front. The tubes are larger in replicas as they are aluminum. The sales are going up! I now know of 3 different brands of these replicas.

Nobody in the heydays will think that Raleigh will become what they are today, just rebadging bikes from other sources. Brands like Carlton, Simplex, Sachs (internal hub dept. first sold to SRAM and now to a Taiwanese firm) are all gone. Even the mighty Santa Cruz bikes is sold to Taiwanese now.

If you are the classical riders, just like Mini Club, Volkswagon Club etc, you will still buy a Brompton but if you are a normal commuter or someone who approves of newer technology , you won't pay the price of the Brompton. The classical clubs will be there in the end but the numbers won't maintain.

Once the Dahon Curl reaches their sales target, the price will come down with cheaper options. They finish targeting the cream of the market, then slowly they will go for the ones who cannot afford the initial offering. After all, all the manufacturing facilities of the Curl is already in place. They need to run it 24/7. They have to market it fast too.

Still Brompton will hold their prestige and classical values but their sales won't.

This post has been edited by etigge: Aug 23 2017, 11:12 AM

if the curl rm3k, definitely will buy, otherwise.. wait for it lah..

but i think that is the price range of dahon bikes. the curl i8 is overpriced for me, unless a dahon collector. 3 speed are enough for me. i think later can mod to 2x3 and put fd in front

as for brompton copy,
i do remember 1 brand before, MIT offering with outer gear besides of internal gear and that one looks good and solid.

It's like food… some ppl only eat French cousins, others Indian curry but Indian curry got so many style, each style got different chef…
There are ppl only feed on roti… but there are have tapioca as staple…
Also, there are ppl who insisted their pepper pork soup is bah kut teh…
There are also ppl who only believe kitchen at home is for show case and cooking is for restaurant…

This post has been edited by KenC: Aug 23 2017, 04:15 PM

From Japanese site, it mentioned that i8 is using Shimano SG-C6001-8V which is 135 mm hub width and Shimano site mentioned that only 7 spd hub using 127mm hub width.

Hi guys,

I've been away from this forum for quite sometime. Just to recap, I started cycling in 2015 thru some family outing in Putrajaya. I saw my sister friend's who riding a java fit and I'm impressed by it's folding mechanism, so I bought a Java Fit. However, my wife started to join me into cycling and I needed another bike and I start to compare Java fit with other brand and Dahon comes into the picture and I started to hunt for a Dahon and with the same budget as java fit, I got myself a Dahon Route with 7 speed. I decided to pass java fit to my wife as it have 18 speed so it will be easier for her to ride. Dahon Route is a sturdy solid bike to ride, less flex on the handle post but I start to realsie the gearing are inadequate as the rear cassette starts from 13 to 28. It unable to go as fast as java fit and unable to climb as easy as Java fit. So I started to research on how to upgrade my Dahon Route into a 9 speed or maybe a 2 X 9. To my dismay, I start to realsie the cost of upgrading a 7 speed into 8 or higher speed. A 7 speed wheelset cannot be use due to its hub are made different. The cost to upgrade will be almost the same price as the bike itself. A new wheel set, cassette and shifter. And due to Dahon Route frame shape. It's unable to hang in a front derailleur. Anyway, one of my kids started to ride so I decided to just pass the bike to him without modification.

That means I need to get myself another bike. Searching high and low and finally I decided to get a Dahon Dash. It's fast, it fold so it should be the best. So I bought a 2nd hand Dahon Dash P18. It's fast no doubt and I really enjoy riding this bike for a while until i need to pack 3 bikes in my car for family ride and my younger kid are starting to learn how to ride and i might need to put in 4 bikes in my car.

So the search for another bike is inevitable.... So after much online research and comparing, I find Tyrell IVE fits the needs I want. A bike that feels solid ( No folding in the frame ) and it wears a 18" tyre. So I sold my Dahon Dash P18 for this Tyrell IVE. It's my first expensive bike which is over RM5K and it really feels different. Been riding it for some time until my younger kid are ready to ride with us. And that I was thinking, should i get just a normal folding bike or go into something smaller and similar to Tyrell IVE .... Thats the time I started taking the plunge in buying a Brompton. And that was 2016 last year. And with four bikes that fit into my car, there's a lot of family ride been going on.

That's all for now. Will continue my story some other time.

Yea, Brompton does fold small. If you need the space, still cheaper than buying a bigger car.
I on the other hand never need to fold my bike… so…

This post has been edited by KenC: Aug 24 2017, 11:45 PM

I am doing leather crafting nowadays apart from riding off course. Here's a project I have made for cycling. Anyone interested in getting one can PM me. It's all manually hand stitched and genuine leather with suede lining. No expense is spared. Edges are fully burnished. Cheap too! Made such that it can be mounted on saddle rails or Brooks saddle eyelets and even front handle bar mounting

Nice leather crafting. Do for your new i8? Hehehe

Nice leather crafting. Do for your new i8? Hehehe

I am actually going to start a leather craft store. Just going slow now, designing stuffs while making the different templates before going full fledge.

I gave up the idea of getting the i8 or i7 already. I am eyeing the Chedech actually. Need to wait for a while first as price is quite steep. Also when I get a bike, I have to get 2, if you understand what I mean.

Just few weeks ago, I wanted to make bicycle leather carrying handle from my old leather office bag. My idea got bigger and I wanted to make saddle bag since I have the extra leather. Watched some YouTube. One inspired me that he moved to a smaller town and turned his leather crafting into business. Good luck to you.

BTW, I believe that there are at least 7 persons who preordered i8. I personally know 4 of them.

Chedeh can not go off road leh..

We have mountain bikes for off roads.

Ettigge,

Nice leather bag you have there It's been some time since we met. What folding bike are you riding now?

Ok ... let me continue with my rant...... Haha.
After I got my first Brompton and that's when I realise a small folding footprint really matters a lot in my life style. I started to ride more and more on the brompton and I realise the gearing at not that bad at all. In fact with it's wide gearing like BWR, you got about 300% gearing ratio. In fact, the standard chainring of 50t, gives you about 100 inches per cycle. That's is as good as a 52t front X 11t on a 451 20" tyre. And with all the accessories you could get for a brompton. It is so much fun playing in it.
After some time, with me riding a brompton and my wife riding a tyrell, size start to creep in and speed are no longer the most important to me. So I bought another brompton for my wife and sold off my tyrell IVE.
So now my wife and I are riding brompton while 2 of my kids are with a java fit and dahon route and there's so much more space to get these 4 bikes in my car.

Yeah, you went off the radar a while ago. I am in Taiping now, my wife retired as well and so we wanted to move somewhere more quiet.

lets have some ride!

Me too. While i am in pd right now, took the chance to cycle around. I guess that's one of the advantages of having a foldie. You can basically take it anywhere you want, without taking too much space in your car, and you dont need a bike rack at your car too.

Good to know about takeovers and acquisitions in bicycle sector.

http://www.bike-eu.com/sales-trends/nieuws...dustry-10128957

Peep at some folders in Taipei Cycle Show March 2017

https://www.foldingtales.com/home/2017/3/30...cycle-show-2017

OMG SUCH NICE AND CUTE bags!

Does anyone know where can we source bicycle tube more specifically 4130 chromoly tube for bicycle frame? Always prefer to buy from local businesses if all terms are rational.

hi, i'm just passby. i'm looking for a new folding bike and would like to know where i can get a good one or a better bargain. Saw few brands but Tern and Dahon looks good but over my budget. I'm looking for something below 1K as I just using it for leisure riding. Any good advice would be great help. I'm looking for a good bike shop around subang and cheras area.

http://www.mudah.my/JAVA+ITALY+7SP+SHIMANO...KG-58134224.htm

In Cheras area you can try Kimbell Jaya opposite the Petron station in Cheras Perdana. For your budget the best bet is Raleigh which is about 800 bucks and 8 speed too. Off course there are cheaper ones like Oscar Imagine or the Vogue but Raleigh is a better bike. Sadly, Dahon's cheapest isnow about 1.5K compared to then , it was less than 1K for the Eco C7 or what they call Dahon Route now. Just visit Kimbell Jaya and the boss can advise you better.

if java, better get java ira. better spec good combo.

otherwise u might consider to get trinx as well. both bike from china as trinx a bit more pocket friendly

poison alert!!!
the beauty of zephyr with 349 wheelset

thanks.....there are just too many brands, all seems to be good but nowadays, branding can quite be deceiving. even ones at decathlon or sports direct are selling unknown brands and it wasnt cheap.

u can exersice anytime u want!!
thats the main point

Poison, can't see too much.. hahaha

At least the Btwin from Decathons ( I think they are sold at 700 plus) are a better bet than those 'capalangs' Reebok and another brand I can't recall, sold by Fitness store.

This post has been edited by etigge: Aug 30 2017, 12:29 AM

lipoting in!

my bike sure very mad at me, already very long time no kayuh

compare with Java and XDS, which would be better? Found 2 with the price range that i wanted, Java TT2 and XDS AFB270 or AFB280.

java and xds are in the same category. go with the best parts given the same price.
as for decathlon, their folding bike is mass produced low end bike from china, skip this or get the same from taobao

thanks....so far, Java is the one with the best specs but concern is the seller. and/or after sales service. whatsapp seems like doesnt want to reply.

USJ Cycle - a little bit pricey but review/service seems to be good.
Elegant Bike - cheapest but review and replies seems to be slacking.
Kimbell Jaya - not sure the price but the review seems to be bad especially the service.

frankly with these bicycle make sure you check well before you buy, after buying sales service susah la..
but i never rely on their sales service anywhere, i prefer DIY on maintenance and tuning,
The only time you need the shop is for warranty claim.

in terms of pricing, kimbell i think offer the cheapest folding bikes in klang valley. USJ Cycle is not a 'little' pricey, instead it's blardy expensive. i bought my dahon speed at kimbell around 1.9k. usj price? rm2.6k! that's rm700 difference for THE SAME BIKE!..

for servicing, any LBS can do it for you. for simple tuning, normal rate is around rm20-30 oni. or for the cheaper option, learn to DIY.

This post has been edited by fatani: Aug 30 2017, 04:00 PM

this morning trip, i manage to test this fnhon zephyr for a climb. 12km suffering climb to the peak of mount jerai.













and the conclusion, this frame manage to complete without any problem. it rides downhill stable just like my dahon or tern bike. and it feels solid and stiff when off saddle.

its on par with dahon bikes thats all i can say

if you ask me, cheapest dahon in klang valley is at Tukang Basikal Fook Sang. Old shop not new one.
I got 10sp tiagra folding brand new for RM2k

HELLO
Pepagi buta ni jgn buat aku stim!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

to add up some stim

East coast ride with my fnhon zephyr

Good morning ☀️


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saw this on FB, should be a fake B? based on the straight stem

the ridea parts should be able to buy from taobao...

Anyone have try folder bike sales at aeon jusco? Herd is from Japan

Anyone could share how the saddle setting? I still feel uncomfortable on mine. It's flat setting or slightly downslope better?

It depends on where you place your 'ding dong' when you ride. Hahaha , no larr! just joking.

It is supposed to be level. I usually level it with a bubble gauge, you know those used by construction fellas. I lay it over the saddle and then adjust till it levels. But many can just go by the eye guess-timation. But beware, do it when the bike is upright and not on it's kick stand.

Even after this, try out and if the saddle feels like poking you, you need to lower the front a bit and if it is vice versa and you feel like sliding down, you need to get the rear lower. Some saddles are designed with a higher rear so that your rear end pushes or rather leans on it for support so that you can pedal stronger.

This post has been edited by etigge: Sep 4 2017, 03:29 PM

Some time, extremely low handlebar ( over 3 inches below handlebar) will lead to discomfort in the rear end...Sure must tilt saddle nose down.

My saddle is level cos old ppl must sit up with handlebar above saddle

Thanks for sharing, Will try for certain distance as I push all down for front now.

Btw, I heard the 'clark clark' sound from my front, any idea on the issue?

You must be ultra fit, can maintain TT bike aero position all the way ! Damn! You must take part in Olympic races!

I just got a Java Decaf Folding Bike.

Since everything is stock, i might as well abuse the parts before changing.

Now, im planning to change the following in the future:

-rims
-chain
-seatpost / saddle

Any idea on the brands that is really sturdy on these parts? I live in the city center and what bike shops do you recommend?

Thanks in advance.

Hi all, is XDS K3 a good folding bike? For casual ride with kids and occasion ride at the park.

If you got a 7 speed, don't bother to change rims and chain unless you change the whole set to 8sp and above. meaning rim, cassette, chain, derailluer, shifters.
Saddle and seatpost, get a decent one like sella will do. choose those relaxed position.

Lol...I just try to make my ass can last for distance ride for me to train up

The XDS K3 looks good. They do build solid frames but because of human's chase for branding, they are not popular compared to the Terns or Dahons. The XDS K3 is more than enough for the job that you described. Like I said, if branding is not an issue, or the size of the fold isn't, it is more than enough.

BUT !

If you, one day will to join a biking group, riding here and there weekly, that's where the problem comes in. This is a big IF lah! Peer pressure will make you want to change bikes, not the performance of the bike or the quality but usually it is the peer pressure!

Anyway, I keep heard the 'clark clark'- sound, any idea on which part faulty?

is that possible the crank loosen?
Last week i heard the similar sound when i turn the paddle, found out that my crank bolt loosen. (square tapered, not hollow type)
dont know how the hell that can happen. You may check this.

After riding for maybe total of 40-50km, now feel like the Cassette 9 speed not enough

Any recommendation for upgrade on Verge D9, think is using Shimano Acera

Thanks a lot Etigge, seem like the XDS K3 is more than enough for us now. =)

I think you need new 56t crank...

if you pedalling then got sound it could be pedal or Bottom Braket.
If no pedal but rolling got sound it could be hub or brakes.
if not moving also got sound, run fast, it is ghost month now.

happy tuesday everyone!

I am pulling trigger for one soon..16" too cute to resist!

56t, hmm maybe is good upgrade. is this going to be from China / CNC version? as I don't see Shimano having his much "teeth"

taobao got plenty of choice...it is a good upgrade if you need more speed.

and what is ur choice bro?fnhon?

sudah kena fnhon racun........

Square tapered cranks and BB, they are actually very torque critical when tighten. Last time, I did not have a torque wrench and instinct made me lock tighter and when once over doing, gone. When you enlarge the taper square hole on the cranks, it will loosen a bit after hard pedalling and that's when the clak-clak clak sound comes. I need to carry a number 10 allen key last time as a precaution.

Just buy the 55T or 56T chainring from BBS and then change it. See if the existing chain can accommodate. If cannot , tukar lagi.

i bought part by part and took quite some time to complete it. well, if u had money u can buy all at once. but buying slowly u didnt feel u loose so much money

here some pix of 349 vs 451