i'm hoping it's around 3-4k range. 5k is already near brommie's price territory. status symbol or not, it still screams quality in it's workmanship and the price of the used brommie doesnt drop too much. it has it's values.

brommies copies, when u see it in real life, really lacks in terms of finishing works and the folding capabilities is not as neat as the brommies. well, probably the curl will not fall in the same categories as those china copies anyway. chedech provides brommie carbon fame lookalike, but when you fold it, you cant roll it. and it lacks front fender too.

there's always pros and cons with these copies, with the most obvious pros is the price. it's either whether you can live with the cons.

8k? that's basically more expensive than 2017 B

Me too. While i am in pd right now, took the chance to cycle around. I guess that's one of the advantages of having a foldie. You can basically take it anywhere you want, without taking too much space in your car, and you dont need a bike rack at your car too.

in terms of pricing, kimbell i think offer the cheapest folding bikes in klang valley. USJ Cycle is not a 'little' pricey, instead it's blardy expensive. i bought my dahon speed at kimbell around 1.9k. usj price? rm2.6k! that's rm700 difference for THE SAME BIKE!..

for servicing, any LBS can do it for you. for simple tuning, normal rate is around rm20-30 oni. or for the cheaper option, learn to DIY.

This post has been edited by fatani: Aug 30 2017, 04:00 PM

AFAIK, 56 kenot pair with 39. normally 56-46, 52-42, 52-36, 53-39, 60-53. donno for what reasons, just got the info from my mech friends. i could be wrong though.

11-36t is already more than enough to climb any hill..for many, 52-11 is already fast enough on the straight. 30++kmh is totally easily doable on the flat. my guess is, the reason why you felt it is not enough on the straight is due to the bigger jumps in the cassette. and why you felt it is not enough for climbing is probably because of the 52t chainring. yours is using MTB components. the cheaper option is as suggested by other forummers, upgrade to double chainring. IMO, 53-39 is already sufficient. to change the jumps ratio in the cassette, i guess there's no other options but to change to RB cassette, but then, you need different rd, shifters and probably chains as well (if u upgrade it to 10 speed). better change the whole groupset.

one other option is, which is the cheapest of all and most probably has been said too many times, which is, ride more, and at the same time, before you know it, you'll be also upgrading your legs and lungs

edit: wait, i just noticed. upgrading to double chainrings also means you need to add fd and shifter as well on your list.

This post has been edited by fatani: Sep 6 2017, 02:19 PM

oh now i see it. thanks sifu, for mentioning the reasons behind it.

Mine oso same like azam. But instead of pump, i prefer co2. Smaller. Stuffed em all in the bag (saddle bag, handlebar bag, tt bag). I dont bring wallet when cycling. Just important stuff like ic and a few rm, enough to pay for my food.

first time i went there, was entertained by local worker. he was patient with all of my questions. the boss oso answer some of the questions. i think his name is jimmy or something. it was during peak hours. they were having sales. lots of customers that time. i end up purchasing a bike. after a few months, found out my BB was damaged due the installation of the dahon roller stand using a different bolt, as instructed by jimmy (i still remember the foreign worker asking verfication whether can use those bolt or not, and his boss just say ya ya can can).

the 2nd time i went there, the experience is, pretty much like yours. instead this time, nobody even care to entertain me. even go ask jimmy few questions, (i was searching for an rb that time), but i got the so so replies, and he seems to give more attention on 2 of his other customers who edi purchase a couple of road bikes. other staff? didnt even bother.

with those 2 visits, has really lowered down my enthusiasm to do a third visit. they do have a wide range of choices for folding bikes, and with very competitive price too, but, i think that's is all about it with that shop.

cap ayam fb

it depends on what are you expecting from your ride. are u a speedy gonzalez or just normal santai2 kinda guy.

my dahon speed is using 11-32t 8 speed with 52/42 chainring. good for all terrain. i can still get good speed with it.
for faster group rides, i use my cap ayam bikes, 11-25 (sometimes 11-28) 10 speed with 53/39 chainring. why? i need those close ratio just to keep up with the rb in the groups. and lungs. and legs too

This post has been edited by fatani: Oct 21 2017, 09:35 AM

Wow. 80-90rpm. Ur cadence is way higher than mine. My comfortable rpm is only at 61. Highest is around 110+. But that's normally during steep climb on mtb. Higher cadence will surely shoot my heart rate way faster.hehe

wow! really salute lah both of you guys! high cadence pedallers ..i know i cant do that.

most of the time (probably 70-80%), im always on 53-11/12, so 60-70 rpm has been the most comfortable pedalling efficiency for me. anything higher, i'll be kong immediately . average speed normally around 25kmh saja

hunt for a used dahon chromoly framed bike. really comfy for touring/long distance travelling. maybe need to increase your budget a bit. but it'll be well worth it.

sifu azam basically already wrote what i want to reply.

just to add up a bit, i got an alu TRS Victor, which shares identical frame design with java fit, and a dahon speed. If for TOURING purpose, i'd pick the dahon anyday, anytime. put a brooks, double chainring, and off you go! Layannn.

true that. Amen

though i had a sinister satisfaction when i pass over those cervelo s works bla bla bla during events with my cheapo TRS foldy. it was like having a sinister laugh inside . but still, i cant deny that i very much envy their bikes. will get one of those roadies once i have sufficient fund.

it can go as far as you can actually manage to paddle. what matter is not the number of speed it can gives you, but about the number of teeth in the cogs/cassette, and whether you can cope with the ratio it offers compared to your pedalling cadence.

eg : rb 11-25 10 speed has smaller ratio ratio than 11-28. close ratio. 11 speed add one more ratio, you get 1 extra smaller ratio. it wont matter to some people, but that extra teeth will make a difference when u are out for spirited ride/competing. that's why rb is using close ratio cassette, less time being a harmster, energy spent wisely on the road.

mtb use wider ratio cassette, and smaller chainrings due to the trail it's ridden. let's say. 11-36. that 36 is needed for steep climb. it wont be suitable for faster rides like rb, because it is not catered for that kind of rides. the groupset is designed so that rider may tackle any kind of trail or climbs they may encountered.

as for foldies, i have used both mtb and rb setups for cassette, 11-36/11-28/11-25. since we mostly ride on the road, the best for me is using close gear ratio. the number of speeds wont really matter much for my needs. my dahon still use 8 speeds 11-32 cassette, and my TRS using 10 speeds 11-28 cassettes. if i want faster ride, i use the bike with the 10 speed for the close ratio it offer, if i want a santai ride, that 8 speed is more than sufficient. both can easily be ridden for 100km no prob.

what?!!!!

sell to me rm350. rm50 profit

sometimes i add more weight on my dahon speed. 15kg more load on the rack (my son) and riding on dragonbacks. really good to train your legs.

p/s: i do find training with mtb helps strengthen my legs.

This post has been edited by fatani: Dec 7 2017, 11:59 AM

Guilty as well. Bought ANOTHER folding bike last Saturday. Just this time, it's for my kid. Hook it up to my MTB, now i have a tandem..more excuses for me to ride more..hehe.. wife kenot complain anymore. kid is happy, im happy, wife also can get some time to rest at home while we were biking.so everybody happy..win2.heeeheee



This post has been edited by fatani: Dec 14 2017, 11:30 AM