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post Jul 23 2017, 01:42 PM, updated 2y ago

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post Jul 24 2017, 11:39 AM

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post Jul 24 2017, 03:02 PM

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Bro Epo, lupa nak tanya at last thread...

Coolant Toyota you beli berapa rege dan di mana?
Dan you pakai berapa botol?
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post Jul 24 2017, 03:18 PM

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V22 already, hurt ah...
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QUOTE(craxors @ Jul 23 2017, 03:43 PM)
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Bro, re your reply on v 21.

"u turn on aircon... gear on D or R.. revv abit... rpm must below 2k...

can heard harsh krrr krr sound.. its coming from the tensioner/belting area.

*not all forte have this issue i think. "

Wanna know, the tensioner/belting area is at the engine side right? but my krrr sound is coming inside... How to fix this problem and what to change? and why not all forte have this issue?
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QUOTE(alextyw85 @ Jul 24 2017, 03:20 PM)
Bro, re your reply on v 21.

"u turn on aircon... gear on D or R.. revv abit... rpm must below 2k...

can heard harsh krrr krr sound.. its coming from the tensioner/belting area.

*not all forte have this issue i think. "

Wanna know, the tensioner/belting area is at the engine side right? but my krrr sound is coming inside... How to fix this problem and what to change? and why not all forte have this issue?
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for my case; can heard from inside with all windows up/close...
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post Jul 24 2017, 04:02 PM

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finally V22...reporting in...
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QUOTE(rompers @ Jul 24 2017, 03:02 PM)
Bro Epo, lupa nak tanya at last thread...

Coolant Toyota you beli berapa rege dan di mana?
Dan you pakai berapa botol?
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Kedai spare part je
Rm28 kot... 2 botol red kaler
If grey aldy mix with water (so u need 4 botol)
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Anyone's Brake Disk giving " woong woong " sound when drive slow & brake.... especially wanna parking & reversing and brake.. very annoying & feel the car old.......
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just realized that the next service which is 100,000 km (60 months) service actually due on 20/07/2017 or 88,5xx km whichever comes 1st... so, this is going to be the 1st time my forte doesn't follow the schedule since the warranty period already ended sad.gif currently as of 25/07/2017, ODO is at 85,5xx km and will going for next service before 88,5xx km sweat.gif
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QUOTE(fongzai92 @ Jul 25 2017, 01:04 AM)
Anyone's Brake Disk giving " woong woong " sound when drive slow & brake.... especially wanna parking & reversing and brake.. very annoying & feel the car old.......
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just realized that the next service which is 100,000 km (60 months) service actually due on 20/07/2017 or 88,5xx km whichever comes 1st... so, this is going to be the 1st time my forte doesn't follow the schedule since the warranty period already ended sad.gif currently as of 25/07/2017, ODO is at 85,5xx km and will going for next service before 88,5xx km sweat.gif
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Since waranti dah abis
No need folo mth, folo km je easy
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congrats on v22...

with regards to my very first post here - metal knocking sound and dying shock absorbers, i bit the bullet and spent half the day (and quite a sum of money) at Autosavers yesterday.

Changed 4 absorbers, 2 lower arms, 1 stabilizer bush among several other things. Everything is ok now. No more sounds, a more rounded (and more comfortable) ride, no more harshness. Just like what Aizat_879 said.

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QUOTE(angel of deauth @ Jul 26 2017, 02:45 PM)
congrats on v22... 

with regards to my very first post here - metal knocking sound and dying shock absorbers, i bit the bullet and spent half the day (and quite a sum of money) at Autosavers yesterday.

Changed 4 absorbers, 2 lower arms, 1 stabilizer bush among several other things. Everything is ok now. No more sounds, a more rounded (and more comfortable) ride, no more harshness. Just like what Aizat_879 said.
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care to share cost for each item?
not change both stabilizer? better.. no?

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Forte 2.0 SX.

Check engine light is on. What are the probable causes?
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QUOTE(craxors @ Jul 26 2017, 03:50 PM)
care to share cost for each item?
not change both stabilizer? better.. no?

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i'll just type it out here, truncated for the suspension parts only.

1. Stabilizer bush (1 set) - RM150
2. FRT Absorber (KSW, 1 set), RR Absorber (KSA, 1 set), Installation - RM890
3. Lower Arm (Recon, 2 pcs) - RM500


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QUOTE(Henry T @ Jul 26 2017, 06:38 PM)
Forte 2.0 SX.

Check engine light is on. What are the probable causes?
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Can't say i know for sure. Your situation is too vague. Best course of action is to go to a proper SC.

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QUOTE(angel of deauth @ Jul 26 2017, 10:07 PM)
i'll just type it out here, truncated for the suspension parts only.

1. Stabilizer bush (1 set) - RM150
2. FRT Absorber (KSW, 1 set), RR Absorber (KSA, 1 set), Installation - RM890
3. Lower Arm (Recon, 2 pcs) - RM500
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I also did the same things at same place few months back.
You just observe for few more days/weeks as last time the KSA absorber got sound after used, they changed it under warranty....(within 3 months if not mistaken)...

Dunno why they use KSA brand which is never heard before...Price not that cheap either...
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QUOTE(angel of deauth @ Jul 26 2017, 10:07 PM)
i'll just type it out here, truncated for the suspension parts only.

1. Stabilizer bush (1 set) - RM150
2. FRT Absorber (KSW, 1 set), RR Absorber (KSA, 1 set), Installation - RM890
3. Lower Arm (Recon, 2 pcs) - RM500
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2 pcs small stabilizer bush cost RM150 ?
RM500 for recon lower arm, since new lower arm also around that price....
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QUOTE(leong20 @ Jul 27 2017, 09:16 AM)
2 pcs small stabilizer bush cost RM150 ?
RM500 for recon lower arm, since new lower arm also around that price....
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sudah naik kereta, haha. i've never had that part changed before so i didn't know the cost.

and this is autosaver, so i had a little bit more faith in them after reading up on forums.
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last year i changed stabilizer link for rm18x if no mistake
lower arm korea brand for rm500 both side
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QUOTE(TamashiiHeroes @ Jul 27 2017, 11:58 AM)
last year i changed stabilizer link for rm18x if no mistake
lower arm korea brand for rm500 both side
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i take it that it's very common. he has a whole tray of lower arms ready to use.
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Stabilizer bush is very cheap. Cost around 20++ each. But the installation will be a bit complicated. By the way, RM890 for the absorber i would rather get the Mando Sets. i guess around 699. And for lower arm, i guess i will take OEM rather than re-cond ones. Onnuri is around rm180 per pc. My 2 cents. As im going to change the lower arm sooner or later too biggrin.gif
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I am having those lala beng exhaust sound when I accelerate from 1st gear. A very short period of time though since yesterday. This morning it still persist. All other gears are fine. No sound. I can hear it with or without the windows up.

Any one knows what is the possible problem? Never had that before.
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QUOTE(lingleeyen @ Jul 28 2017, 10:28 AM)
I am having those lala beng exhaust sound when I accelerate from 1st gear. A very short period of time though since yesterday. This morning it still persist. All other gears are fine. No sound. I can hear it with or without the windows up.

Any one knows what is the possible problem? Never had that before.
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what is lala beng sound? sweat.gif laugh.gif
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QUOTE(craxors @ Jul 28 2017, 10:33 AM)
what is lala beng sound?  sweat.gif  laugh.gif
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Haha. Those lala modded exhaust sound. Loud and doesnt sound pleasant.
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QUOTE(cooljik93 @ Jul 28 2017, 10:23 AM)
Stabilizer bush is very cheap. Cost around 20++ each. But the installation will be a bit complicated. By the way, RM890 for the absorber i would rather get the Mando Sets. i guess around 699. And for lower arm, i guess i will take OEM rather than re-cond ones. Onnuri is around rm180 per pc. My 2 cents. As im going to change the lower arm sooner or later too  biggrin.gif
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so call korea brand is exp than mando set?
i thought mando is exp than others? except ori la
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QUOTE(TamashiiHeroes @ Jul 28 2017, 01:41 PM)
so call korea brand is exp than mando set?
i thought mando is exp than others? except ori la
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QUOTE(TamashiiHeroes @ Jul 28 2017, 01:41 PM)
so call korea brand is exp than mando set?
i thought mando is exp than others? except ori la
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Mando should be the original ones.

I only agreed because autosavers was highly recommended. And according to the boss, there is a shortage of Mando absorbers.

Also, the KSA rear absorbers that I just changed to... today blew out one side. Went back to autosavers and got it replaced to KSW ones at no extra charge. So all my absorbers are purple now.

KSW although I don't know the history, the ride quality of the car now is very agreeable. Car feels new again. So, win some.. lose some.
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QUOTE(angel of deauth @ Jul 28 2017, 04:55 PM)
Mando should be the original ones.

I only agreed because autosavers was highly recommended. And according to the boss, there is a shortage of Mando absorbers.

Also, the KSA rear absorbers that I just changed to... today blew out one side. Went back to autosavers and got it replaced to KSW ones at no extra charge. So all my absorbers are purple now.

KSW although I don't know the history, the ride quality of the car now is very agreeable. Car feels new again. So, win some.. lose some.
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Happy to hear about ur 'renew' ride..i'm planning to replace my lower arm n tie rod end fr my next project..
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QUOTE(angel of deauth @ Jul 28 2017, 04:55 PM)
Mando should be the original ones.

I only agreed because autosavers was highly recommended. And according to the boss, there is a shortage of Mando absorbers.

Also, the KSA rear absorbers that I just changed to... today blew out one side. Went back to autosavers and got it replaced to KSW ones at no extra charge. So all my absorbers are purple now.

KSW although I don't know the history, the ride quality of the car now is very agreeable. Car feels new again. So, win some.. lose some.
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oic ,btw why front ksw but rear ksa? not same price?
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Guys, do you all follow the service schedule for your Kia Forte service?

So even if the mileage is less than the recommned to change the part but the number of months is met, do we still change the part?

Thanks!
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QUOTE(beefburger @ Aug 1 2017, 10:46 AM)
Guys, do you all follow the service schedule for your Kia Forte service?

So even if the mileage is less than the recommned to change the part but the number of months is met, do we still change the part?

Thanks!
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Depends on parts request to change, but for fluids or oil, i will change as service schedule even my car still haven reach the service mileage.
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QUOTE(beefburger @ Aug 1 2017, 10:46 AM)
Guys, do you all follow the service schedule for your Kia Forte service?

So even if the mileage is less than the recommned to change the part but the number of months is met, do we still change the part?

Thanks!
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I ignore mth, folo mileage only coz seldom use
That's why i'm using semi only, if fully, die la if folo mth
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QUOTE(TamashiiHeroes @ Jul 31 2017, 09:30 AM)
oic ,btw why front ksw but rear ksa? not same price?
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Tak berapa tahu. That was the "package"
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Planing get a used kia forte 2.0 2012, any user here willing to share in term of
- driving performancr
- fuel charge
- maintenance cost and repair cost will very high?
- realibilyy?
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QUOTE(kelvin988 @ Aug 1 2017, 06:00 PM)
Planing get a used kia forte 2.0 2012, any user here willing to share in term of
- driving performancr
- fuel charge
- maintenance cost and repair cost will very high?
- realibilyy?
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if want to compare to my neighbour felali.... i would say forte better.
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QUOTE(kelvin988 @ Aug 1 2017, 06:00 PM)
Planing get a used kia forte 2.0 2012, any user here willing to share in term of
- driving performancr
- fuel charge
- maintenance cost and repair cost will very high?
- realibilyy?
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Experience since 2012,
- driving performancr
Good handling and powerful and stable, just the 17" low profile tyre not so comfortable..
- fuel charge
9-11 liter / 100 km (as per meter) for mix city/highway, if full highway 6.5-8.5 liter / 100 km (as per meter), if full city 10-12 liter / 100 km (as per meter)
- maintenance cost and repair cost will very high?
comparable with Honda City I can say.... If you stay Klang valley area still manage to find many workshops and spare parts shop....
- realibilyy?
no major issue except wear and tear parts like suspension, stabilizer link, lower arms, etc.,
some common cases of gear level shift loose (change new RM 750 at SC, steering coupling replaced RM 380). Korean parts are quite reliable provided is Original parts. If use unknown brand got risk...


How much for the used card?
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QUOTE(angel of deauth @ Jul 28 2017, 04:55 PM)
Mando should be the original ones.

I only agreed because autosavers was highly recommended. And according to the boss, there is a shortage of Mando absorbers.

Also, the KSA rear absorbers that I just changed to... today blew out one side. Went back to autosavers and got it replaced to KSW ones at no extra charge. So all my absorbers are purple now.

KSW although I don't know the history, the ride quality of the car now is very agreeable. Car feels new again. So, win some.. lose some.
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Mando is the OEM brand, not really original...

Last time the boss also said shortage of Mando, that's y I changed to KSA...is it the PJ branch??
Actually outside still got many Mando stock...
I also replaced one side after few weeks under their warranty...
Nx time just don't use unknown brand again...my lesson learned...



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QUOTE(thinkgoodpositive @ Aug 3 2017, 09:25 AM)
Mando is the OEM brand, not really original...

Last time the boss also said shortage of Mando, that's y I changed to KSA...is it the PJ branch??
Actually outside still got many Mando stock...
I also replaced one side after few weeks under their warranty...
Nx time just don't use unknown brand again...my lesson learned...
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PJ branch.

Just came back from a roadtrip to Endau Rompin, 4+ hours in mostly B roads through Negeri Sembilan. I'm pretty happy with the car now. Ride is hard (from the wheels) but supple. Fun to drive again, just like when it was new.
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QUOTE(angel of deauth @ Aug 3 2017, 10:51 AM)
PJ branch.

Just came back from a roadtrip to Endau Rompin, 4+ hours in mostly B roads through Negeri Sembilan. I'm pretty happy with the car now. Ride is hard (from the wheels) but supple. Fun to drive again, just like when it was new.
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I also did it at PJ branch last time...

Good to hear that...some ppl spent more time but still can't figure out or fix the suspension prob...
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Hi guys / otais,

I am planning to get Kia Forte for weekend and long distance travel / balik kampung (kuantan, terengganu).
The 1.6 version, is it really underpowered?
I read from a few site people are saying the 1.6 is underpowered for the body.
And lastly, any common issue about the car?

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QUOTE(Qale @ Aug 4 2017, 11:46 AM)
Hi guys / otais,

I am planning to get Kia Forte for weekend and long distance travel / balik kampung (kuantan, terengganu).
The 1.6 version, is it really underpowered?
I read from a few site people are saying the 1.6 is underpowered for the body.
And lastly, any common issue about the car?
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waiting for 1.6 owner to reply.

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QUOTE(Qale @ Aug 4 2017, 11:46 AM)
Hi guys / otais,

I am planning to get Kia Forte for weekend and long distance travel / balik kampung (kuantan, terengganu).
The 1.6 version, is it really underpowered?
I read from a few site people are saying the 1.6 is underpowered for the body.
And lastly, any common issue about the car?
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For me, the initial acceleration is a bit heavy. When higher speed it is better. No choice for a heavy chassis. Consider okay la.

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QUOTE(Qale @ Aug 4 2017, 11:46 AM)
Hi guys / otais,

I am planning to get Kia Forte for weekend and long distance travel / balik kampung (kuantan, terengganu).
The 1.6 version, is it really underpowered?
I read from a few site people are saying the 1.6 is underpowered for the body.
And lastly, any common issue about the car?
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Depends on your definition of underpowered. 2.0 definitely more power than the 1.6, but to some ppl a 2.0l 154hp/195Nm output engine may not be enough also.

the available power is sufficient for the car (1.6), if you managed to get the 6-spd version, the power delivery is smoother and overtakes are quite easy, with more gears to drop down if you want to accelerate fast. it feels relaxed at highway speed.

of course the experience will be better with a larger engine. if you get to test drive them both, you can decide better.

either case, you're getting a decent and well equipped car at its current price.


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its a 1300kg car..... laugh.gif
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its a 1300kg car.....  laugh.gif
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only when no one is sitting inside. God knows how much it could weigh in a full load, haha.
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QUOTE(Qale @ Aug 4 2017, 11:46 AM)
Hi guys / otais,

I am planning to get Kia Forte for weekend and long distance travel / balik kampung (kuantan, terengganu).
The 1.6 version, is it really underpowered?
I read from a few site people are saying the 1.6 is underpowered for the body.
And lastly, any common issue about the car?
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If use lpt hway ok la
If old road, don't
Better take elantra turbo

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If use lpt hway ok la
If old road, don't
Better take elantra turbo
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QUOTE(Qale @ Aug 4 2017, 11:46 AM)
Hi guys / otais,

I am planning to get Kia Forte for weekend and long distance travel / balik kampung (kuantan, terengganu).
The 1.6 version, is it really underpowered?
I read from a few site people are saying the 1.6 is underpowered for the body.
And lastly, any common issue about the car?
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The Forte 1.6 is a good car for whatever use, if you're not crazy about power or torque. I had generally trouble-free ownership for the 7 years I owned one. The only times it didn't start was when battery died. My was a 2010/4-speed auto model.

Brake discs were skimmed after six years.

Aircon compressor hose replaced after six-and-a-half years. Replacement at authorised SC was almost 1k.

Fuel pump sensor also replaced after six years, it suddenly stopped working and dashboard indicator showed empty while tank was still full. About RM200.

Car was recalled once, also after almost six years, to upgrade brake pedal switch (this was a global recall).

There was the usual 10k service/6 month-interval service. My car had about 110,000km on it when I sold it 2 months ago.

For me, it served its purpose well, about 95% city use. Yes, been outstation a few times, and also sat in the back during these times to let relief driver take wheel, and was very comfortable.

So, I wasn't aware of any issues - i heard stories about camber alignment issues, but this seemed to vary with tyre service centres.

My friend has a 2.0 from 2010, 4-speed. His biggest bill was the steering rack/motor (the 2.0 has electric, the 1.6 uses hydraulic)... SC quoted him about 10k but I got it knocked down for him by 40%.

Build quality was superb for the price.

Hope this helps in your decision... used Forte is one of the best value buys, if it was generally trouble-free to start with. I had intended to keep mine longer but some personal circumstances necessitated selling it.

I moved up to a 2.0 Cerato.

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QUOTE(Qale @ Aug 4 2017, 11:46 AM)
Hi guys / otais,

I am planning to get Kia Forte for weekend and long distance travel / balik kampung (kuantan, terengganu).
The 1.6 version, is it really underpowered?
I read from a few site people are saying the 1.6 is underpowered for the body.
And lastly, any common issue about the car?
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get the 6 speed with paddle shift. Learn to use the paddle shift and u wont feel underpowered at all. its kinda like using manual shift. its more than enuff to overtake anything in any roads (inclining) and enuff to propel to up to 180kmh-200kmh.. of course, this is not a performance car..
i'm guessing those who said 1.6 is underpowered, they probably owned a supercar to compare it with.. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(kord @ Aug 6 2017, 03:04 PM)
get the 6 speed with paddle shift. Learn to use the paddle shift and u wont feel underpowered at all. its kinda like using manual shift. its more than enuff to overtake anything in any roads (inclining) and enuff to propel to up to 180kmh-200kmh.. of course, this is not a performance car..
i'm guessing those who said 1.6 is underpowered, they probably owned a supercar to compare it with..  biggrin.gif
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With the 4-speed, you can do the manual shift thing... just less convenient...

I was coming off a Honda City 1.5L CVT, but didn't mind the Forte one bit since I drove solo most of the time... and the Forte was much better built.

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QUOTE(Bassraptor @ Aug 6 2017, 04:08 PM)
With the 4-speed, you can do the manual shift thing... just less convenient...

I was coming off a Honda City 1.5L CVT, but didn't mind the Forte one bit since I drove solo most of the time... and the Forte was much better built.
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You seem to miss your car. Hope you find new joy with your cerato. I definitely enjoyed being in one on a recent trip.

I feel like I came to the forte party pretty late.
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QUOTE(angel of deauth @ Aug 6 2017, 07:57 PM)
You seem to miss your car. Hope you find new joy with your cerato. I definitely enjoyed being in one on a recent trip.

I feel like I came to the forte party pretty late.
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Haha, you're right... I do miss it.. 7 years after all and many good memories...only natural. But it had to go for non-motoring reasons.... mellow.gif

I keep browsing Mudah.my for any used Forte Koup... innocent.gif

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QUOTE(Bassraptor @ Aug 6 2017, 04:08 PM)
With the 4-speed, you can do the manual shift thing... just less convenient...

I was coming off a Honda City 1.5L CVT, but didn't mind the Forte one bit since I drove solo most of the time... and the Forte was much better built.
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yup, the 6-spd also got..bit confusing tho because u need to use the stick and end up upshift when u actually wanted to downshift vice-versa.. sweat.gif
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QUOTE(Bassraptor @ Aug 5 2017, 10:41 AM)
The Forte 1.6 is a good car for whatever use, if you're not crazy about power or torque. I had generally trouble-free ownership for the 7 years I owned one. The only times it didn't start was when battery died. My was a 2010/4-speed auto model.

Brake discs were skimmed after six years.

Aircon compressor hose replaced after six-and-a-half years. Replacement at authorised SC was almost 1k.

Fuel pump sensor also replaced after six years, it suddenly stopped working and dashboard indicator showed empty while tank was still full. About RM200.

Car was recalled once, also after almost six years, to upgrade brake pedal switch (this was a global recall).

There was the usual 10k service/6 month-interval service. My car had about 110,000km on it when I sold it 2 months ago.

For me, it served its purpose well, about 95% city use. Yes, been outstation a few times, and also sat in the back during these times to let relief driver take wheel, and was very comfortable.

So, I wasn't aware of any issues - i heard stories about camber alignment issues, but this seemed to vary with tyre service centres.

My friend has a 2.0 from 2010, 4-speed. His biggest bill was the steering rack/motor (the 2.0 has electric, the 1.6 uses hydraulic)... SC quoted him about 10k but I got it knocked down for him by 40%.

Build quality was superb for the price.

Hope this helps in your decision... used Forte is one of the best value buys, if it was generally trouble-free to start with. I had intended to keep mine longer but some personal circumstances necessitated selling it.

I moved up to a 2.0 Cerato.
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2.0 at 95k for sure value buy
My 2010 cbu version also trouble free
5km km interval
Brake pad n vbelt pun not chg yet
The biggest bill is 4 new set of tyres
Lucky my steering isu only coupling so cheaper
Now i dunno what to repair, xde benda rosak, loan pun dah abis
So just save money for new elantra turbo lorrr

QUOTE(Bassraptor @ Aug 6 2017, 08:31 PM)
Haha, you're right... I do miss it.. 7 years after all and many good memories...only natural. But it had to go for non-motoring reasons....  mellow.gif

I keep browsing Mudah.my for any used Forte Koup...  innocent.gif
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Forte koup design is nice
They should retain it but they replace with cerato koup where until today i kenot fine 1 on the road

QUOTE(kord @ Aug 7 2017, 08:14 AM)
yup, the 6-spd also got..bit confusing tho because u need to use the stick and end up upshift when u actually wanted to downshift vice-versa..  sweat.gif
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Dun understand, my 4 speed is upshift for naik gear
Downshift for turun gear
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Dun understand, my 4 speed is upshift for naik gear
Downshift for turun gear
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Opcosla upshift = naik gear, downshift turun gear.. biggrin.gif
what i meant was, i just confius when have to push the gear lever downwards to turun gear (in my mind, i always thinking of pushing the gear lever downwards to make the gear naik), and vice versa.. maybe bcos im not used to that, so sometimes end up upshift when i actually want to downshift when using the gear lever sweat.gif
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1.6 still ok for me ,always maintain 110-120 at highway
can easily go up to 140kmh

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QUOTE(kord @ Aug 7 2017, 03:11 PM)
Opcosla upshift = naik gear, downshift turun gear.. biggrin.gif
what i meant was, i just confius when have to push the gear lever downwards to turun gear (in my mind, i always thinking of pushing the gear lever downwards to make the gear naik), and vice versa.. maybe bcos im not used to that, so sometimes end up upshift when i actually want to downshift when using the gear lever  sweat.gif
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use the paddle shifter mang... sweat.gif
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use the paddle shifter mang...  sweat.gif
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Thats what i did.. but when u want to turn ur wheels and up/downshift at the same time, have to use the gear lever jugak since the paddle shift is out of reach.. sweat.gif
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QUOTE(kord @ Aug 7 2017, 04:41 PM)
Thats what i did.. but when u want to turn ur wheels and up/downshift at the same time, have to use the gear lever jugak since the paddle shift is out of reach.. sweat.gif
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some times when i'm really bored driving back from cyberjaya, i try keeping my revs up above 4000 rpm on my B-road toll-free drive home (crossing Pulau Meranti, if you all familiar), have always been using the gearstick (push up/down) but feel it's more fun to do it with the paddle shifters with both hands on the wheel.

the car is much livelier at 3-5k rpm.
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try to stay at 5th... as long as u can...

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QUOTE(Bassraptor @ Aug 5 2017, 10:41 AM)
The Forte 1.6 is a good car for whatever use, if you're not crazy about power or torque. I had generally trouble-free ownership for the 7 years I owned one. The only times it didn't start was when battery died. My was a 2010/4-speed auto model.

Brake discs were skimmed after six years.

Aircon compressor hose replaced after six-and-a-half years. Replacement at authorised SC was almost 1k.

Fuel pump sensor also replaced after six years, it suddenly stopped working and dashboard indicator showed empty while tank was still full. About RM200.

Car was recalled once, also after almost six years, to upgrade brake pedal switch (this was a global recall).

There was the usual 10k service/6 month-interval service. My car had about 110,000km on it when I sold it 2 months ago.

For me, it served its purpose well, about 95% city use. Yes, been outstation a few times, and also sat in the back during these times to let relief driver take wheel, and was very comfortable.

So, I wasn't aware of any issues - i heard stories about camber alignment issues, but this seemed to vary with tyre service centres.

My friend has a 2.0 from 2010, 4-speed. His biggest bill was the steering rack/motor (the 2.0 has electric, the 1.6 uses hydraulic)... SC quoted him about 10k but I got it knocked down for him by 40%.

Build quality was superb for the price.

Hope this helps in your decision... used Forte is one of the best value buys, if it was generally trouble-free to start with. I had intended to keep mine longer but some personal circumstances necessitated selling it.

I moved up to a 2.0 Cerato.
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Bro,care to share how's ur experience wth the cerato compare to forte..loves the new fl cerato design..smile.gif

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QUOTE(Bassraptor @ Aug 5 2017, 11:41 AM)
The Forte 1.6 is a good car for whatever use, if you're not crazy about power or torque. I had generally trouble-free ownership for the 7 years I owned one. The only times it didn't start was when battery died. My was a 2010/4-speed auto model.

Brake discs were skimmed after six years.

Aircon compressor hose replaced after six-and-a-half years. Replacement at authorised SC was almost 1k.

Fuel pump sensor also replaced after six years, it suddenly stopped working and dashboard indicator showed empty while tank was still full. About RM200.

Car was recalled once, also after almost six years, to upgrade brake pedal switch (this was a global recall).

There was the usual 10k service/6 month-interval service. My car had about 110,000km on it when I sold it 2 months ago.

For me, it served its purpose well, about 95% city use. Yes, been outstation a few times, and also sat in the back during these times to let relief driver take wheel, and was very comfortable.

So, I wasn't aware of any issues - i heard stories about camber alignment issues, but this seemed to vary with tyre service centres.

My friend has a 2.0 from 2010, 4-speed. His biggest bill was the steering rack/motor (the 2.0 has electric, the 1.6 uses hydraulic)... SC quoted him about 10k but I got it knocked down for him by 40%.

Build quality was superb for the price.

Hope this helps in your decision... used Forte is one of the best value buys, if it was generally trouble-free to start with. I had intended to keep mine longer but some personal circumstances necessitated selling it.

I moved up to a 2.0 Cerato.
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I don't receive any recall for the brake switch, even i service my car in SC till now....

MDPS so expensive???? why ur friend change at Sc, don't change outside?

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http://www.kia.com/my/util/promotion.detai...708&articleNo=1

This Merdeka promotion looks very attractive, especially for those Forte Suspension parts...anyone try this?
Pls call to request in advance, else the SC normally will say no stock la, not applicable la, dunno la...etc...

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QUOTE(thinkgoodpositive @ Aug 8 2017, 04:03 PM)
http://www.kia.com/my/util/promotion.detai...708&articleNo=1

This Merdeka promotion looks very attractive, especially for those Forte Suspension parts...anyone try this?
Pls call to request in advance, else the SC normally will say no stock la, not applicable la, dunno la...etc...
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other workshop not about 50% cheaper than sc? cool2.gif
if already over warranty really no point to services at sc anymore
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QUOTE(thinkgoodpositive @ Aug 8 2017, 04:03 PM)
http://www.kia.com/my/util/promotion.detai...708&articleNo=1

This Merdeka promotion looks very attractive, especially for those Forte Suspension parts...anyone try this?
Pls call to request in advance, else the SC normally will say no stock la, not applicable la, dunno la...etc...
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Doesn't look like a bad deal. if this showed up 2 weeks ago, i would've gone here instead of Autosavers. I even changed my v-belt together with my absorbers & serviced the car. *sigh*

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QUOTE(angel of deauth @ Aug 8 2017, 05:07 PM)
Doesn't look like a bad deal. if this showed up 2 weeks ago, i would've gone here instead of Autosavers. I even changed my v-belt together with my absorbers & serviced the car. *sigh*
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How much did you changed ur v belt?
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How much did you changed ur v belt?
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RM 180 + RM25 for labour. before GST.

+ RM400 for a new Tensioner Bearing at the same time. mine was squeaking after a 700km drive to/from JB.

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RM 180 + RM25 for labour. before GST.
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total of 205 for v-belt? blink.gif
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total of 205 for v-belt?  blink.gif
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QUOTE(angel of deauth @ Aug 8 2017, 06:18 PM)
you are really fast. yes.
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just ngam ngam timing bro. haha. i think its a bit expensive for rm180. I forget how much im getting it. but i rmb total include labour not sampai rm200.
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QUOTE(cooljik93 @ Aug 8 2017, 06:31 PM)
just ngam ngam timing bro. haha. i think its a bit expensive for rm180. I forget how much im getting it. but i rmb total include labour not sampai rm200.
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you had a better deal than i did then sweat.gif

not as pandai as most of you in getting the best deals. ultimately, i use my cars a lot so i won't spare the expense (within reason) to keep them running.

also, sometime next week, i'll probably be testing out some LED headlamp bulbs for the low beam. the shop that did my HID were very sorry about the last time and showed me some LED bulbs installed in one of their cars. looks very promising. will take the time to experiment with it.
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QUOTE(angel of deauth @ Aug 8 2017, 07:15 PM)
RM 180 + RM25 for labour. before GST.

+ RM400 for a new Tensioner Bearing at the same time. mine was squeaking after a 700km drive to/from JB.
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Wow, that's a lot. I got it changed at only rm100.00 include labour. The v belt are from bando although the packaging is hyundai Kia mobis. For tensioner, what is the symptoms before we decide to change it?
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QUOTE(nelsonooi7 @ Aug 8 2017, 08:23 PM)
Wow, that's a lot.  I got it changed at only rm100.00 include labour. The v belt are from bando although the packaging is hyundai Kia mobis. For tensioner, what is the symptoms before we decide to change it?
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You also had a better deal. Same as yours.

My case was the belt was chirping/squeaking quite loud. Like a bearing rubbing sound that got faster when you accelerate. Could hear it from inside the car.
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QUOTE(thinkgoodpositive @ Aug 8 2017, 04:03 PM)
http://www.kia.com/my/util/promotion.detai...708&articleNo=1

This Merdeka promotion looks very attractive, especially for those Forte Suspension parts...anyone try this?
Pls call to request in advance, else the SC normally will say no stock la, not applicable la, dunno la...etc...
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Anyone went for this Merdeka Special promotion?
Would like to know if the discounts are real or just classic gimmick (i.e. hike up price before giving discounts).
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Anyone went for this Merdeka Special promotion?
Would like to know if the discounts are real or just classic gimmick (i.e. hike up price before giving discounts).
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Just called up to enquire on forte absorber for front and back. RM496 per absorber, 40% discount. Not including GST and labour charge yet.

Plan to change next month. Think most probably going to autosaver.
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QUOTE(superhero_123 @ Aug 9 2017, 10:16 AM)
Just called up to enquire on forte absorber for front and back. RM496 per absorber, 40% discount. Not including GST and labour charge yet.

Plan to change next month. Think most probably going to autosaver.
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496 is per pair? or per unit? sweat.gif
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QUOTE(superhero_123 @ Aug 9 2017, 10:16 AM)
Just called up to enquire on forte absorber for front and back. RM496 per absorber, 40% discount. Not including GST and labour charge yet.

Plan to change next month. Think most probably going to autosaver.
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rm496 per absorber already rm2k ,minus 40% = rm1.2k + gst + labour blink.gif
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496 is per pair? or per unit? sweat.gif
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Per absorber. So 4 x 496.
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QUOTE(angel of deauth @ Aug 8 2017, 06:46 PM)
you had a better deal than i did then  sweat.gif

not as pandai as most of you in getting the best deals. ultimately, i use my cars a lot so i won't spare the expense (within reason) to keep them running.

also, sometime next week, i'll probably be testing out some LED headlamp bulbs for the low beam. the shop that did my HID were very sorry about the last time and showed me some LED bulbs installed in one of their cars. looks very promising. will take the time to experiment with it.
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no la, not saying whose better in getting the deals. Just to share which workshop providing the best price and workmanship. Because as what i rmb 180 for V belt is kinda expensive. i think i have to dig out some receipt. haha.

LED headlamp bulbs? hmmm. are you the one who wanted to do retrofits? Personally for me i wont use LED. Reflector lamp should better stay with normal bulbs i guess. For me i would try those philips or osram or PIAA bulbs. Output of HID is bright but inconsistent for me. For LED, not much comments, but it seems to look bright but the light throw might not be as far as bulbs.

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QUOTE(superhero_123 @ Aug 9 2017, 11:41 AM)
Per absorber. So 4 x 496.
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QUOTE(cooljik93 @ Aug 9 2017, 12:31 PM)
no la, not saying whose better in getting the deals. Just to share which workshop providing the best price and workmanship. Because as what i rmb 180 for V belt is kinda expensive. i think i have to dig out some receipt. haha.

LED headlamp bulbs? hmmm. are you the one who wanted to do retrofits? Personally for me i wont use LED. Reflector lamp should better stay with normal bulbs i guess. For me i would try those philips or osram or PIAA bulbs. Output of HID is bright but inconsistent for me. For LED, not much comments, but it seems to look bright but the light throw might not be as far as bulbs.
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Yes. I'm still thinking about doing it, just a little later. Especially after my absorber +++ changes. But my curiosity is on how LEDs would work in the forte. Can't find that answer anywhere online.

Currently using Osram Nightbreaker Lasers. Really good range, brightness and colour. Night time driving in back roads much nicer as I also got the lights properly adjusted.

Wanted to see if LED will end up better than my HID disaster. Will be testing 4300K H7 LED bulb.
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Vbelt - rm85
Absorber 4pcs - rm650

Both frm mobis segambut
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QUOTE(superhero_123 @ Aug 9 2017, 11:41 AM)
Per absorber. So 4 x 496.
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Just as I suspected. Classic gimmick; harga kasi naik KAW KAW, and then bagi deep discounts...make them look so awesome! *puiii*

Thanks @superhero_123 for confirming this.

QUOTE(epo @ Aug 9 2017, 06:25 PM)
Vbelt - rm85
Absorber 4pcs - rm650

Both frm mobis segambut
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Thanks Bro Epo, for the good info.
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QUOTE(rompers @ Aug 10 2017, 01:58 AM)
Just as I suspected. Classic gimmick; harga kasi naik KAW KAW, and then bagi deep discounts...make them look so awesome! *puiii*

Thanks @superhero_123 for confirming this.
Thanks Bro Epo, for the good info.
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Now gawat maaa...
Every company cut cost n not sincere give disc
Ni folo sogo punya disc style
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QUOTE(epo @ Aug 9 2017, 06:25 PM)
Vbelt - rm85
Absorber 4pcs - rm650

Both frm mobis segambut
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nice price ,btw absorber is from which branded?
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QUOTE(TamashiiHeroes @ Aug 10 2017, 09:19 AM)
nice price ,btw absorber is from which branded?
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Price up aldy, mine bought in 2014 kot


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absorber price is much cheaper last time. Prices went up alot during 2016 or early 2017 cry.gif
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QUOTE(epo @ Aug 10 2017, 01:47 PM)
Dpn hyundai
Belkg kia

Price up aldy, mine bought in 2014 kot
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Oh, it dulu mia harga kah?

Absorber not too bad lah.

But the vbelt...
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QUOTE(angel of deauth @ Aug 10 2017, 08:15 PM)
Oh, it dulu mia harga kah?

Absorber not too bad lah.

But the vbelt...
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Price before gst implemented in msia... 😝😝
U can fb them for latest price
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can someone help me to check which spare part company has ready stock for 6-spd side mirror RH?

Already repaired the gear... RM200 ... still spoilt... might as well change to a new one
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can someone help me to check which spare part company has ready stock for 6-spd side mirror RH?

Already repaired the gear... RM200 ... still spoilt... might as well change to a new one
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which part spoilt ? still plastic gear?
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can someone help me to check which spare part company has ready stock for 6-spd side mirror RH?

Already repaired the gear... RM200 ... still spoilt... might as well change to a new one
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Mind to share where you repair the gear? I heard that the gear is plastic and any idea how to change to metal gear?
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which part spoilt ? still plastic gear?
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yup....

QUOTE(alextyw85 @ Aug 11 2017, 01:46 PM)
Mind to share where you repair the gear? I heard that the gear is plastic and any idea how to change to metal gear?
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KCM... gear is plastic original... dont think there is metal gear
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Yes. I'm still thinking about doing it, just a little later. Especially after my absorber +++ changes. But my curiosity is on how LEDs would work in the forte. Can't find that answer anywhere online.

Currently using Osram Nightbreaker Lasers. Really good range, brightness and colour. Night time driving in back roads much nicer as I also got the lights properly adjusted.

Wanted to see if LED will end up better than my HID disaster. Will be testing 4300K H7 LED bulb.
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Do keep us posted with your project.
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Anything for you, bro.
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Anything for you, bro.
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Thanks.
Am keen to learn from you because you are very thorough and informative with your explanation notworthy.gif

Btw, where are you from?
If you're living around PJ area, perhaps we can meet up for tea also...then can chit chat.
I'll invite a few other Forte kaki to join us also.

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Guys anyone facing issue which makan engine oil?
Im facing this and kcm suggested to change semi 10w40 . Any idea on this? Does it affect engine? And solution for this? Thanks
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QUOTE(rompers @ Aug 13 2017, 01:25 AM)
Thanks.
Am keen to learn from you because you are very thorough and informative with your explanation notworthy.gif

Btw, where are you from?
If you're living around PJ area, perhaps we can meet up for tea also...then can chit chat.
I'll invite a few other Forte kaki to join us also.
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i try to share information that i myself would try to find. something this forum has provided me with a lot. consider as my service to payback.

i'm from klang. PJ is not far, so yeah. it would be nice to make new friends.
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Guys anyone facing issue which makan engine oil?
Im facing this and kcm suggested to change semi 10w40 . Any idea on this? Does it affect engine? And solution for this? Thanks
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i think more importantly is to find out how your engine is consuming/losing oil and also how fast you're losing it.

using a thicker grade of oil is one way to slow the problem down (but 10w40 seems like what is normally used anyways).

is it the head gasket, the piston rings, something leaky in the sump.. best to get a trusted mechanic to look into it.
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QUOTE(angel of deauth @ Aug 13 2017, 10:41 PM)
i think more importantly is to find out how your engine is consuming/losing oil and also how fast you're losing it.

using a thicker grade of oil is one way to slow the problem down (but 10w40 seems like what is normally used anyways).

is it the head gasket, the piston rings, something leaky in the sump.. best to get a trusted mechanic to look into it.
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If really one of these problem exist? Necessary to overhaul??
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QUOTE(kayclum @ Aug 14 2017, 12:49 AM)
If really one of these problem exist? Necessary to overhaul??
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No bro.
Check thoroughly first via a trusty and experienced mechanic.

By order of precedent, check:

1) Engine Oil Level since last service - At times, it may be that the engine oil wasn't topped-up to the required level, hence giving the illusion of oil leak.
2) Oil Sump - Check if there are any leaks via the sump gasket, drain plug, etc.
3) Oil Filter Socket - Check if there are any signs of oil seepages around the connection.
4) Engine Top/Valve-Rocker Cover - Visually inspect if there are any seepages.
5) Assess the tail-pipe area - With your engine is on idle and on revs, inspect to see if there are noticeable black smoke emitted. Usually, black exhaust smoke is a sign of engine oil seeping into your cylinder valves via worn piston rings. Make sure your engine is on nominal operating temperature (not cold start) in order to be sure if there are black smoke.

Always keep in mind that an engine overhaul is the last resort for any engine issues.

P/S - If I've missed out on any other key areas, I hope other forumers here will be kind enough to add-on to the check-list above.
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QUOTE(rompers @ Aug 14 2017, 02:51 AM)
No bro.
Check thoroughly first via a trusty and experienced mechanic.

By order of precedent, check:

1) Engine Oil Level since last service - At times, it may be that the engine oil wasn't topped-up to the required level, hence giving the illusion of oil leak.
2) Oil Sump - Check if there are any leaks via the sump gasket, drain plug, etc.
3) Oil Filter Socket - Check if there are any signs of oil seepages around the connection.
4) Engine Top/Valve-Rocker Cover - Visually inspect if there are any seepages.
5) Assess the tail-pipe area - With your engine is on idle and on revs, inspect to see if there are noticeable black smoke emitted. Usually, black exhaust smoke is a sign of engine oil seeping into your cylinder valves via worn piston rings. Make sure your engine is on nominal operating temperature (not cold start) in order to be sure if there are black smoke

Always keep in mind that an engine overhaul is the last resort for any engine issues.

P/S - If I've missed out on any other key areas, I hope other forumers here will be kind enough to add-on to the check-list above.
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I think this is a good list to check.

But if I remember correctly for item 5, if piston rings is leaking engine oil into cylinder; you should be looking out for white blue smoke, and/or black oily liquid exiting your tailpipe.

Black smoke should be from misfiring cylinders in petrol engine. Or antilag if your car has it for some reason.

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QUOTE(angel of deauth @ Aug 14 2017, 03:55 AM)
I think this is a good list to check.

But if I remember correctly for item 5, if piston rings is leaking engine oil into cylinder; you should be looking out for white blue smoke, and/or black oily liquid exiting your tailpipe.

Black smoke should be from misfiring cylinders in petrol engine. Or antilag if your car has it for some reason.
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You're quite right. blush.gif

Although I must say (to an untrained eye) Blue, Grey and White smoke may be difficult to differentiate.
I guess the best way might be for one to place a piece of paper/rag close (but not too close to obstruct, lest the engine gets suffocated by exhaust back pressure) and observe for any noticeable oil stains.

Then again, the exercise above is not very effective if the oil leak (into the compression chamber) is minimal.

Anyhow, best to send the vehicle to a good mechanic for a proper diagnostic (e.g. Compression test, etc.).
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QUOTE(iZuDeeN @ Aug 11 2017, 03:32 PM)
yup....
KCM... gear is plastic original... dont think there is metal gear
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mind to explain what is plastic gear?

i have a faulty driver side mirror with me, the problem is when you fold the mirror, the motor wont stop. Maybe you can make use of the part inside.
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QUOTE(rompers @ Aug 14 2017, 02:51 AM)
No bro.
Check thoroughly first via a trusty and experienced mechanic.

By order of precedent, check:

1) Engine Oil Level since last service - At times, it may be that the engine oil wasn't topped-up to the required level, hence giving the illusion of oil leak.
2) Oil Sump - Check if there are any leaks via the sump gasket, drain plug, etc.
3) Oil Filter Socket - Check if there are any signs of oil seepages around the connection.
4) Engine Top/Valve-Rocker Cover - Visually inspect if there are any seepages.
5) Assess the tail-pipe area - With your engine is on idle and on revs, inspect to see if there are noticeable black smoke emitted. Usually, black exhaust smoke is a sign of engine oil seeping into your cylinder valves via worn piston rings. Make sure your engine is on nominal operating temperature (not cold start) in order to be sure if there are black smoke.

Always keep in mind that an engine overhaul is the last resort for any engine issues.

P/S - If I've missed out on any other key areas, I hope other forumers here will be kind enough to add-on to the check-list above.
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Aw. Too many to suspect. Any good forman recommend bro? As kcm only suggest me change thicker oil. Hmm

And thanks for these info mate

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Aw. Too many to suspect. Any good forman recommend bro? As kcm only suggest me change thicker oil. Hmm

And thanks for these info mate
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I believe all the items in the check-list can be checked together with any trust worthy friend/mechanic as it involves visual checks.
Only thing is, you may want to take your car out for undercarriage & engine cleaning so that you can detect any fresh oil seepages/leak.
Another way is for you to place a few pieces of newspaper under your car whilst parked overnight (repeated over a few days), and observe if there are any oil stains on the newspaper sheets.
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QUOTE(claudetan @ Aug 14 2017, 07:52 AM)
mind to explain what is plastic gear?

i have a faulty driver side mirror with me, the problem is when you fold the mirror, the motor wont stop. Maybe you can make use of the part inside.
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something like tis ,ur side mirror probably plastic gear loose problem too
https://www.google.com/search?q=kia+forte+s...h_0lE52JYBRecM:
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QUOTE(TamashiiHeroes @ Aug 16 2017, 10:23 AM)
something like tis ,ur side mirror probably plastic gear loose problem too
https://www.google.com/search?q=kia+forte+s...h_0lE52JYBRecM:
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Bro, are you referring to this? The plastic gear of the side mirror...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lpi10UmaLmM
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QUOTE(claudetan @ Aug 14 2017, 07:52 AM)
mind to explain what is plastic gear?

i have a faulty driver side mirror with me, the problem is when you fold the mirror, the motor wont stop. Maybe you can make use of the part inside.
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same problem... there is a gear inside the side mirror that broke ; hence you can't fold....
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Bro, are you referring to this? The plastic gear of the side mirror...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lpi10UmaLmM
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thanks, already order from taobao.

I disassembly my side mirror and found the gear cracked.
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thanks, already order from taobao.

I disassembly my side mirror and found the gear cracked.
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Mind to share how much you order from taoboo??? You order the plastic gear only or the entire side mirror?
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Mind to share how much you order from taoboo??? You order the plastic gear only or the entire side mirror?
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gear only, RM50+ include shipping.
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New problem. Share with you fine ppl what happened.

6-spd Forte. When I accelerate from standstill/traffic light, my gear shifter will move forward from [D] and touch [N]. This causes the car to lose drive in acceleration but only from 1st gear. Not cool. Not safe.

Went to autosavers to check. It was an engine mount issue. Weak liao. When engine revs, it torques the mount and pulls the gear cable into neutral.

The fix? Adjusted the gear cable to have some slack. Everything ok now.

Next thing to change in the near future... engine mounts.
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QUOTE(angel of deauth @ Aug 17 2017, 03:47 PM)
New problem. Share with you fine ppl what happened.

6-spd Forte. When I accelerate from standstill/traffic light, my gear shifter will move forward from [D] and touch [N]. This causes the car to lose drive in acceleration but only from 1st gear. Not cool. Not safe.

Went to autosavers to check. It was an engine mount issue. Weak liao. When engine revs, it torques the mount and pulls the gear cable into neutral.

The fix? Adjusted the gear cable to have some slack. Everything ok now.

Next thing to change in the near future... engine mounts.
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what is your car age and mileage bos? sweat.gif
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Also, need some of your help.

Could anyone post up a picture of their headlamps shining on a flat wall? Better if stock. I don't have a reference for what is normal for forte halogen reflector

Does it look like this?


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QUOTE(claudetan @ Aug 17 2017, 04:06 PM)
gear only, RM50+ include shipping.
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Bro, something like this? The plastic gear is 1 only or need to buy 1 pair? macam forte one easy to spoilt, i already kena once and claim warranty....

If so easy to spoilt, i think cerato one should also easy to spoilt as cerato comes with auto folding mirror....

https://world.taobao.com/item/546334419026....bucket=9#detail
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what is your car age and mileage bos?  sweat.gif
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5yrs, 120k
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5yrs, 120k
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same age...

touch wood. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(alextyw85 @ Aug 17 2017, 04:14 PM)
Bro, something like this? The plastic gear is 1 only or need to buy 1 pair? macam forte one easy to spoilt, i already kena once and claim warranty....

If so easy to spoilt, i think cerato one should also easy to spoilt as cerato comes with auto folding mirror....

https://world.taobao.com/item/546334419026....bucket=9#detail
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yes, thats the shop, before me already got ppl from Malaysia buy it.

The gear not yet arrive cant comment, seem just a unit.

not sure easy to spoil or not, but i think my case is because my mirror kena bang during 1st week of my car, that cb motorist drive in middle of 2 lane and bang my side mirror and caused my mirror bend to outside, and the cover fly out. Maybe that time the gear already start cracking, so slowly cannot use oledi.

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QUOTE(angel of deauth @ Aug 17 2017, 04:11 PM)
Also, need some of your help.

Could anyone post up a picture of their headlamps shining on a flat wall? Better if stock. I don't have a reference for what is normal for forte halogen reflector

Does it look like this?
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mine can see both of the light beam project to wall.
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QUOTE(claudetan @ Aug 17 2017, 04:40 PM)
mine can see both of the light beam project to wall.
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Better if got picture, if you ever get the chance to take it.

This was from my wife's car about 20ft from wall.
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QUOTE(craxors @ Aug 17 2017, 04:29 PM)
same age...

touch wood.  laugh.gif
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Not all will kena I guess. My friend 9yr 200k forte still fine.
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QUOTE(claudetan @ Aug 17 2017, 04:40 PM)
mine can see both of the light beam project to wall.
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Close to this?


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QUOTE(angel of deauth @ Aug 17 2017, 04:59 PM)
Close to this?
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ya, but mine can see 2 beam clearly. What happen to your beam? i think you can send to workshop ask them calibrate, mine was calibrated by kia SC.

i always see because my office parking after the ramp is wall, so my beam always project to wall before i turn.
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QUOTE(claudetan @ Aug 17 2017, 06:50 PM)
ya, but mine can see 2 beam clearly. What happen to your beam? i think you can send to workshop ask them calibrate, mine was calibrated by kia SC.

i always see because my office parking after the ramp is wall, so my beam always project to wall before i turn.
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This is 25ft away from wall. So the beam should combine.

I just need to confirm with other forte owners their light pattern like how.

Pictures help.
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QUOTE(claudetan @ Aug 16 2017, 07:44 PM)
thanks, already order from taobao.

I disassembly my side mirror and found the gear cracked.
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Can share some instruction on how to fully take apart the side mirror to access the motor? I only managed to take out the side mirror but had difficulty taking the motor apart
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QUOTE(angel of deauth @ Aug 17 2017, 04:11 PM)
Also, need some of your help.

Could anyone post up a picture of their headlamps shining on a flat wall? Better if stock. I don't have a reference for what is normal for forte halogen reflector

Does it look like this?
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Yes, my Forte's headlight beam is very much the same (except that the centre spot is not as intense compared to your photo).
I believe it should all be the same, under E-Code or SAE standards (i.e. Dipped Beam, Assymetrical Beam Pattern).

P/S - Sorry for not attaching a photo. I keep getting an error whilst trying to attach here.
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QUOTE(lamer2000 @ Aug 17 2017, 08:43 PM)
Can share some instruction on how to fully take apart the side mirror to access the motor? I only managed to take out the side mirror but had difficulty taking the motor apart
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Well, technically, you cant take the motor completely out because some wiring, here the instruction from me (i take no responsibiliy if you break your side mirror):

1. Take the mirror out.
2. Unscrew the mirror holder (the round thing) and remove it.
3. from the socket side, there should be a single screw with a plastic cap, remove the screw, and then remove the plastic cover, dont worry, you can pull it out because it's soft plastic.
4. unscrew the 3 screw after you remove the plastic.
5. turn your side mirror upside down, you should see a cover there, use screw driver to remove the cover,, you might need to apply a little bit force, you will see some screw there, remove the screw and you good to go, the screw pretty hard to remove.
6. Now you should able to move the motor out a bit, this should leave you sufficient space to do things, unplug the LED signal and mirror cable will give you more space. Unfortunately, the socket that connect to the mirror is too big to pull out.
7. use your finder to pull the wiring cap on the motor, then take the motor cover off slowly, dont pull by force, you will bend the connector from the wire to the motor, twist it instead.
8. unscrew the motor and take out the cover and you will see the gear.

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QUOTE(claudetan @ Aug 17 2017, 05:36 PM)
yes, thats the shop, before me already got ppl from Malaysia buy it.

The gear not yet arrive cant comment, seem just a unit.

not sure easy to spoil or not, but i think my case is because my mirror kena bang during 1st week of my car, that cb motorist drive in middle of 2 lane and bang my side mirror and caused my mirror bend to outside, and the cover fly out. Maybe that time the gear already start cracking, so slowly cannot use oledi.
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Some time i felt the motorist wanna go to hell, the middle of 2 lanes are so small still die die want to go thru.. and sometime when driving on LDP, the motorist suddenly cut to my lane. they really want to go hell...
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QUOTE(alextyw85 @ Aug 18 2017, 11:32 AM)
Some time i felt the motorist wanna go to hell, the middle of 2 lanes are so small still die die want to go thru.. and sometime when driving on LDP, the motorist suddenly cut to my lane. they really want to go hell...
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what to do, this is Malaysia, i knew some country motorists are not allow to drive between lane, to be honest, it for their safely also.

what make me most DL is, they saw you signal want merge to other lane than horn you kao kao, cant them fuxking slow down?
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what to do, this is Malaysia, i knew some country motorists are not allow to drive between lane, to be honest, it for their safely also.

what make me most DL is, they saw you signal want merge to other lane than horn you kao kao, cant them fuxking slow down?
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Ya. I kena few times also, keep horning... middle of the lanes is not the drive way, they should not drive middle of the lane... I saw few motorist lagi gaolat... horning all the way to destination, like want to pre-alert car driver don't merge the lane as the motorist is coming.. hehehe...

I kena one time kena bang the side mirror but not motorist, is the bicycle rider. I stop my car in front of the shop in my hometown to wait my parents, a stupid guy ride the bicycle and bang my side mirror. the road is sooooo wide, why must ride so near to my car and bang my side mirror.... this fellow looks like bangla... luckily car was not new so just heart pain few mins only...
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kena bang once while waiting for the traffic light & the side mirror flip to front
the female motorist act like nth happened and never turn her head
am was angry and so horn tat barbarian ,then a malay motorist help me flip it back ,we dint talk a word ,but his face like relax la bro ,ur side mirror is fine ,i was feel like wtf ,am i the wrong 1?

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kena bang once while waiting for the traffic light & the side mirror flip to front
the female motorist act like nth happened and never turn her head
am was angry and so horn tat barbarian ,then a malay motorist help me flip it back ,we dint talk a word ,but his face like relax la bro ,ur side mirror is fine ,i was feel like wtf ,am i the wrong 1?
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Motorist are car drivers, motorcyclists are motorcycle riders.
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I have tried to change my fully oil to 10 40 semi oil and i check it after 8 days of usage.
It show normal mean no more oil leaking.
Any thing can i do to maintain it ?
Or any consequences if i continue use semi oil?
Thanks gang
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QUOTE(kayclum @ Aug 19 2017, 01:20 PM)
I have tried to change my fully oil to 10 40 semi oil and i check it after 8 days of usage.
It show normal mean no more oil leaking.
Any thing can i do to maintain it ?
Or any consequences if i continue use semi oil?
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What was your oil grade before this?

If it works, then just continue to monitor.

Shouldn't be any consequences of switching. Just maintain your oil change schedule regularly.
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Just a quick update, project LED is not going well. Better than HID, but not up to the mark.

Let me compile some photos, will post up my findings.
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QUOTE(angel of deauth @ Aug 20 2017, 03:38 PM)
What was your oil grade before this?

If it works, then just continue to monitor.

Shouldn't be any consequences of switching. Just maintain your oil change schedule regularly.
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5w30 bro.
Is it necessary overhaul ?
But so far i dint see any leaking now
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5w30 bro.
Is it necessary overhaul ?
But so far i dint see any leaking now
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Hmm, maybe not necessary if there's no leaks. Just wonder if you drive it at high pressure (hard acceleration and high speeds), will it leak again.

Do keep checking lah.
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QUOTE(angel of deauth @ Aug 20 2017, 03:39 PM)
Just a quick update, project LED is not going well. Better than HID, but not up to the mark.

Let me compile some photos, will post up my findings.
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Do you mean to say that the LEDs are better in terms of "reduced glare to oncoming motorists" or?
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Just a quick update, project LED is not going well. Better than HID, but not up to the mark.

Let me compile some photos, will post up my findings.
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Bro, why u said LED better than HID? I can't see the clear cut for LED and the output of HID much better than LED, this is my experience....
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QUOTE(rompers @ Aug 21 2017, 03:32 AM)
Do you mean to say that the LEDs are better in terms of "reduced glare to oncoming motorists" or?
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Yes. Better in terms of glare and colour. but it doesn't use all of the reflector because of shadows at the 0 and 180 degree position of the bulbs, so light output is quite out of shape.

speaking of glare, it's actually pretty good. probably because the position of the LED chip is identical to the halogen filaments.

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Bro, why u said LED better than HID? I can't see the clear cut for LED and the output of HID much better than LED, this is my experience....
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HID is much brighter, but way too bright for our halogen reflectors, so the beam pattern and the cutoff is mostly not there.

LED is not as bright, not as far, but like better versions of halogens. colour, speed and brightness is good, just the shape and the control is not very satisfactory.

between 2 headlamps, you can notice shadows and the lack of spread. like it's too focused.
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QUOTE(angel of deauth @ Aug 21 2017, 01:04 PM)
HID is much brighter, but way too bright for our halogen reflectors, so the beam pattern and the cutoff is mostly not there.

LED is not as bright, not as far, but like better versions of halogens. colour, speed and brightness is good, just the shape and the control is not very satisfactory.

between 2 headlamps, you can notice shadows and the lack of spread. like it's too focused.
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agree on that. HID is very bright but the cutoff is terrible. That is because the poorly made china HID. LED got bright ones too. But the light is not as far as halogen. Get retrofit projector directly la bro. haha. try google some on Morimoto Mini D2S. The cutoff is awesome.
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QUOTE(angel of deauth @ Aug 21 2017, 01:04 PM)
HID is much brighter, but way too bright for our halogen reflectors, so the beam pattern and the cutoff is mostly not there.

LED is not as bright, not as far, but like better versions of halogens. colour, speed and brightness is good, just the shape and the control is not very satisfactory.

between 2 headlamps, you can notice shadows and the lack of spread. like it's too focused.
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Between 2 headlamps means,

1) HID on one side vs LED on the other?
2) or HALOGEN vs LED?
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Halo all sifus, just got myself a secondhand forte 2.0 sx 2013. Got some issues need advice on how to fix:
1) when driving got buzzing sounds from right side middle column (seat belt + airbag pillar)
2) when driving slowly or going thru bump, got krk krk sound from engine area,
3) right front fog light+DRL bracket tercabut ( can diy fix ah?)

Any ideas on the cost as well.
Thanks in advance.

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Halo all sifus, just got myself a secondhand forte 2.0 sx 2013. Got some issues need advice on how to fix:
1) when driving got buzzing sounds from right side middle column (seat belt + airbag pillar)
2) when driving slowly or going thru bump, got krk krk sound from engine area,
3) right front fog light+DRL bracket tercabut ( can diy fix ah?)

Any ideas on the cost as well.
Thanks in advance.
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How much you bought ur used forte?

1) I also having the same problem but the sound gone after few minutes of drive. The sound come out especially i park in basement after work. I asked my colleague to sit in my car and listen, he told me the sound coming from the seat belt that part. (I so hope is coming from door panel so I can screw tightly).
2) Krk Krk sound from engine bay? i don't think can hear any sound from engine when we sit in the car unless the sound is super loud, I bet you are talking about the dashboard sound which is the known and common issue.
3) I think can gua... this one not sure....

by the way, enjoy your ride...
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QUOTE(csv @ Aug 22 2017, 10:00 AM)
Halo all sifus, just got myself a secondhand forte 2.0 sx 2013. Got some issues need advice on how to fix:
1) when driving got buzzing sounds from right side middle column (seat belt + airbag pillar)
2) when driving slowly or going thru bump, got krk krk sound from engine area,
3) right front fog light+DRL bracket tercabut ( can diy fix ah?)

Any ideas on the cost as well.
Thanks in advance.
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1) This issue seems to be pretty common/normal with our Fortes, mainly due to temperature (e.g. weather) fluctuations causing the gaps between panels to widen or contract. If it is an absolute bother, you can try auto-foaming those areas of concern (but I wouldn't recommend it if it involves areas where the Seat Belts/Air-Bags are, as you wouldn't want anything to affect the safety aspects of the vehicle).

2) Sounds like worn Absorber mountings to me, or perhaps worn/dried out Stabilizer Bar Bushes, or both.

3) Perhaps detailed photos of the damaged area would allow us here to provide a better assessment?
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QUOTE(rompers @ Aug 21 2017, 07:00 PM)
Between 2 headlamps means,

1) HID on one side vs LED on the other?
2) or HALOGEN vs LED?
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Oh, I meant between left and right
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Oh, I meant between left and right
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So would you say, based on your own experience:

HALOGEN
Advantages:
1) No glare on oncoming road users.
2) Lower cost-per-bulb (for generic brands; could also be a disadvantage considering the short life-span).
3) Almost instantaneous optimum operating range.

Disadvantages:
1) Short life-span.
2) Higher operating temperature.
3) Reduced light intensity/light-throw/distance (for generic brands).


HID
Advantages:
1) Increased life-span.
2) Lower operating temperature.
3) Increased light intensity/light-throw/distance (when properly installed).
4) Aesthetics (subjective towards individual users).

Disadvantages:
1) Tendency to cause glare upon oncoming traffic (especially if retrofitted incorrectly).
2) High initial cost (also requires some modification towards existing system).
3) Higher cost-per-bulb (could also be an advantage taking the increased life-span into consideration).
4) Non JPJ compliant (for retrofits).
5) An increase in time required to achieve the optimum operating range.


LED
Advantage:
1) Increased life-span.
2) Lower operating temperature and low energy requirement.
3) Instantaneous optimum operating range.
4) Cost-effective (subjective to brand and model of system).
5) Reduced glare upon oncoming traffic (comparable to Halogens?).

Disadvantage:
1) Reduced light intensity/light-throw/distance (comparable or less effective against Halogens?).
2) Difficulty in securing a reliable/quality product from current market-place (where branded models are extremely expensive).

Would you agree with my summary above?
Do you have any other salient points to add onto the list?
Would you be able to provide your feedback onto the listed-points which ends with a question mark?

Thanks.
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QUOTE(csv @ Aug 22 2017, 10:00 AM)
Halo all sifus, just got myself a secondhand forte 2.0 sx 2013. Got some issues need advice on how to fix:
1) when driving got buzzing sounds from right side middle column (seat belt + airbag pillar)
2) when driving slowly or going thru bump, got krk krk sound from engine area,
3) right front fog light+DRL bracket tercabut ( can diy fix ah?)

Any ideas on the cost as well.
Thanks in advance.
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Welcome on board.

Would suggest you to join the Forte Owner FB group and repost the problems with photo/video. A lot of sifus there can response promptly with experience.

1) Can't imagine the sounds. Or no sounds for my car.

2) Is it engine area or the undercarriage or suspension part?
Normally is due to one OR combinations of the below
- stabilizer link
- stabilizer bar bush
- lower arm bush
- Absorber or bush or mounting
The workshop can check and know how to fix this.

3) Not sure.

Since your car is 2013, still within 5 years warranty period, u might check whether is the warranty still valid for your 2nd hand car?

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QUOTE(rompers @ Aug 24 2017, 06:41 AM)
So would you say, based on your own experience:

In context of Forte's reflector headlamp design;

HALOGEN
Advantages:
1) No glare on oncoming road users. glare happens, but the colour and intensity is not as intense to the eye
2) Lower cost-per-bulb (for generic brands; could also be a disadvantage considering the short life-span).
3) Almost instantaneous optimum operating range.

Disadvantages:
1) Short life-span.Long life bulbs exist, but performance is comparable to stock if not worse. Hi performance bulbs lasts even shorter
2) Higher operating temperature.
3) Reduced light intensity/light-throw/distance (for generic brands).
HID
Advantages:
1) Increased life-span.
2) Lower operating temperature.
3) Increased light intensity/light-throw/distance (when properly installed).
4) Aesthetics (subjective towards individual users).

Disadvantages:
1) Tendency to cause glare upon oncoming traffic (especially if retrofitted incorrectly). Overwhelms normal halogen reflector design.
2) High initial cost (also requires some modification towards existing system).
3) Higher cost-per-bulb (could also be an advantage taking the increased life-span into consideration).
4) Non JPJ compliant (for retrofits).
5) An increase in time required to achieve the optimum operating range.
6) Complex installation. Requires ballast mounting, drilling of dust cap in retrofits
7) Colour shift during warmup and over time.
8) Inconsistent light colour from bulb to bulb
9) if tied to high beams, repeated flashing kills it faster

LED
Advantage:
1) Increased life-span.
2) Lower operating temperature and lower energy requirement.
3) Instantaneous optimum operating range.
4) Cost-effective (subjective to brand and model of system).
5) Lower, more acceptable glare to oncoming traffic. Especially if position of LED chip matches position of stock filament.
6) Consistent colour output.
7) Aesthetics.


Disadvantage:
1) Reduced light intensity/light-throw/distance (comparable or less effective against Halogen)
2) Difficulty in securing a reliable/quality product from current market-place (where branded models are extremely expensive).
3) Similar complexity to HID setup. Some requires external heatsinks (Either belt or fan), driver (similar to ballast), hole cutting.
4) High heat coming from rear of bulb.
5) Installation usually takes up space behind bulb. Consider that the Forte has a battery 1 inch behind left headlamp and Washer filler tube immediately behind right headlamp.



Would you agree with my summary above?
Do you have any other salient points to add onto the list?
Would you be able to provide your feedback onto the listed-points which ends with a question mark?

Thanks.
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LED bulb tested. Chinese brand, claimed to be LUMILED chip. Build quality is good, metal with steel braid heatsink at the back. These get pretty hot.

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LED colour output 6000K
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LED colour output 4300K
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The bulbs light up instantly and suits the "Auto" headlamp function perfectly.

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LED light performance.

Colour is pretty clean and accurate to what 4300K and 6000K should be to the human eye. Camera doesn't capture this well. At least, not from my phone.

Beam pattern is not as tidy as stock, with very spotty and focused hotspots in the middle. You can still see a little bit of the cutoff but it's pretty muddy.

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Over distance, the line between bright and dark (the cutoff separation) gets fuzzy. The lights does not spread evenly on the road (could be the Forte's headlamp design, could be LED's spotlight nature). This gives the light a very narrow beam and some shadows in between the headlights.

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Changing to 4300K bulbs exhibit the same characteristics.

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QUOTE(angel of deauth @ Aug 25 2017, 01:10 AM)
LED light performance.

Colour is pretty clean and accurate to what 4300K and 6000K should be to the human eye. Camera doesn't capture this well. At least, not from my phone.

Beam pattern is not as tidy as stock, with very spotty and focused hotspots in the middle. You can still see a little bit of the cutoff but it's pretty muddy.

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Over distance, the line between bright and dark (the cutoff separation) gets fuzzy. The lights does not spread evenly on the road (could be the Forte's headlamp design, could be LED's spotlight nature). This gives the light a very narrow beam and some shadows in between the headlights.

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Changing to 4300K bulbs exhibit the same characteristics.

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Great insight!

From the looks of things (photographic results), I'd say the 6000K LED Bulb seems to deliver the best outcome. Do correct me if I am wrong.

So, in your opinion..what would you opt for the Forte, going forward?
OSRAM LaserLight Halogens vs LED 4300K vs LED 6000K?

Where possible, kindly share the cost breakdown for the LED Kits (both 4300K & 6000K) please.

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Some notes;

For the LED, I actually prefer the 4300K colour. The 6000K shows up more on camera but the light is not so obvious after 50ft. 4300K does a little better.

For stock reflector, my pick is this:
1. Osram Nightbreaker or Philips Vision Plus series
2. LED 4300K
3. LED 6000K

The LEDs I tested were RM350 per pair. Osrams are around RM 130 while Philips are around RM 180.

If your objective is to have white lights but don't mind the shorter range and potentially narrow lights, LED is the better way to do it.

Try not to get those with electric fans. One more moving part to fail. Possibly not enough space to install also.

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Wow... long time no come here already v22... rclxms.gif
I am going to sell my forte soon.. been 7.5 years with him no regret.. icon_rolleyes.gif

Want to let go "Bendix metal king titanium hybrid front brakepad" which bought as a backup. Anybody if interested please PM me..
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Going forward, I would go with HID projector retrofits. Would love to see this on the forte. Or any of my cars..

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On the LED, looking at them head on is actually quite pleasant. Glare isn't bad at all.

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Colour comparison, with same exposure.

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Rated 3750K
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Ultimately, the Nightbreaker puts light in the distance better than the rest. In a dark winding road, this is what you want.

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QUOTE(angel of deauth @ Aug 25 2017, 12:19 PM)

Ultimately, the Nightbreaker puts light in the distance better than the rest. In a dark winding road, this is what you want.

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jpj kacau tak?
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QUOTE(n4tea @ Aug 25 2017, 12:12 PM)
Wow... long time no come here already v22...  rclxms.gif
I am going to sell my forte soon.. been 7.5 years with him no regret..  icon_rolleyes.gif

Want to let go "Bendix metal king titanium hybrid front brakepad" which bought as a backup. Anybody if interested please PM me..
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Are those expensive and/or good?

What are you moving on to next?
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QUOTE(craxors @ Aug 25 2017, 12:20 PM)
jpj kacau tak?
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No kacau. It's legal.

From first look, you probably won't realize it's different from stock. Only when you compare with other cars around you, you'll see it's a whiter in colour.
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QUOTE(angel of deauth @ Aug 25 2017, 12:28 PM)
Are those expensive and/or good?
What are you moving on to next?
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I used metal king before, quite good. This one seems like upgraded version, bought via eneos recently (clear stock).

Toyota camry, by next week shall get the car tongue.gif

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QUOTE(n4tea @ Aug 25 2017, 01:15 PM)
I used metal king before, quite good. This one seems like upgraded version, bought via eneos recently (clear stock).

Toyota camry, by next week shall get the car  tongue.gif
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Hope you're getting the current gen Camry. Those are nice cars. Especially the hybrid.

Didnt have good experience with Bendix last time. The pads from my old car had to be ground to stop it from squealing. So, maybe my luck.
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QUOTE(angel of deauth @ Aug 25 2017, 03:37 PM)
Hope you're getting the current gen Camry. Those are nice cars. Especially the hybrid.

Didnt have good experience with Bendix last time. The pads from my old car had to be ground to stop it from squealing. So, maybe my luck.
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Yes, it's the new gen with vvt-iw engine, but not the latest gen with tnga platform. That one should b arrived in another two years, if agent words to b trusted...
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Awfully quiet around here.

Just wondering if it's ok to put 215/50 tires on stock SX rims.
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QUOTE(angel of deauth @ Aug 28 2017, 10:44 PM)
Awfully quiet around here.

Just wondering if it's ok to put 215/50 tires on stock SX rims.
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I used before 205/50/17 cos I think the default size really too thin for Malaysia road condition, and the outcome is really better. Never try 215/50 before, can check with tyre size calculator and see..
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QUOTE(angel of deauth @ Aug 25 2017, 01:05 PM)
Some notes;

For the LED, I actually prefer the 4300K colour. The 6000K shows up more on camera but the light is not so obvious after 50ft. 4300K does a little better.

For stock reflector, my pick is this:
1. Osram Nightbreaker or Philips Vision Plus series
2. LED 4300K
3. LED 6000K

The LEDs I tested were RM350 per pair. Osrams are around RM 130 while Philips are around RM 180.

If your objective is to have white lights but don't mind the shorter range and potentially narrow lights, LED is the better way to do it.

Try not to get those with electric fans. One more moving part to fail. Possibly not enough space to install also.
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Dear Sifu

Can you explain what is the different / meaning of 4300K vs 6000K ?

Thank you

Regards

Siew TL
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QUOTE(n4tea @ Aug 30 2017, 07:02 AM)
I used before 205/50/17 cos I think the default size really too thin for Malaysia road condition, and the outcome is really better. Never try 215/50 before, can check with tyre size calculator and see..
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205/50 on the stock rims? Means stretched out a bit?

Because stock is 215/45
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saw someone stock rim with 215/50 b4 ,no problem ,wont hit fender
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QUOTE(siewstl @ Aug 30 2017, 07:53 AM)
Dear Sifu

Can you explain what is the different / meaning of 4300K vs 6000K ?

Thank you

Regards

Siew TL
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Kelvin (K) is a unit to measure colour temperature. The lower the number, the warmer (yellower) the colour. Inversely, higher numbers will be cooler (bluer).

Easiest example is the light in your house. Those warm yellow bulbs for table lamps are usually warm white (2700K), the white flourescent tubes are usually cool daylight (6500K).

Standard car halogen headlamps are usually 3200K
Original HID headlamps are usually 4300K to 5000K
Original LED headlamps (like on new Honda's and Toyota's) are 6000K
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QUOTE(TamashiiHeroes @ Aug 30 2017, 09:33 AM)
saw someone stock rim with 215/50 b4 ,no problem ,wont hit fender
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This is good to know. Was looking at Bridgestone Ecopia EP300's. That's the closest size they have.
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Hi All,

Anyone here changed their alternator yet. I had to change mine recently and it cost quite a bit - RM 2500. Done it at one authorized naza kia outlet. My mileage above 130K. Car is Forte 2.0SX.

Is it that expensive?
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QUOTE(angel of deauth @ Aug 30 2017, 09:14 AM)
205/50 on the stock rims? Means stretched out a bit?

Because stock is 215/45
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feels much better than the stock size?

that's like 1+cm larger than stock diameter.
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QUOTE(angel of deauth @ Aug 28 2017, 10:44 PM)
Awfully quiet around here.

Just wondering if it's ok to put 215/50 tires on stock SX rims.
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It's okay to use 215/50R17 tyres on the stock rims.
Only minor issue is that the front tyres may rub against the inner tyre well during full-lock turns (and depending on vehicle load).
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QUOTE(stevenc68 @ Aug 30 2017, 02:19 PM)
Hi All,

Anyone here changed their alternator yet. I had to change mine recently and it cost quite a bit - RM 2500. Done it at one authorized naza kia outlet. My mileage above 130K. Car is Forte 2.0SX.

Is it that expensive?
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Been quoted the same price at Kia Service centre also. My problem was the pulley spoilt (freee running). At last replace only the pulley at Korean Car Mate Glenmarie for around RM500++ because SC couldn't replace only the pulley.

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I noticed a very high concentration of fortes around Puchong area.

Most owners live there?
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I'm kind if happy to report the purple absorbers from KSW are pretty good. So, if you ever get a good deal on them, it's worth considering.

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QUOTE(angel of deauth @ Sep 3 2017, 01:20 PM)
I'm kind if happy to report the purple absorbers from KSW are pretty good. So, if you ever get a good deal on them, it's worth considering.

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What's the damaged?
Where did you get it?
Anylinks?

Thanks
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What's the damaged?
Where did you get it?
Anylinks?

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No links for the product that I could find.

Got it from Autosavers PJ at RM890 for all 4 with installation.
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No links for the product that I could find.

Got it from Autosavers PJ at RM890 for all 4 with installation.
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Could be this website...

http://www.kshowa.com

Price with installation, sound good.

How long have you been using? Do feedback after one year of usage.

Thanks
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Could be this website...

http://www.kshowa.com

Price with installation, sound good.

How long have you been using? Do feedback after one year of usage.

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1mth and 3000km in so far.

Travelled on back roads quite a lot lately.
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QUOTE(angel of deauth @ Sep 3 2017, 01:20 PM)
I'm kind if happy to report the purple absorbers from KSW are pretty good. So, if you ever get a good deal on them, it's worth considering.

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nice share.

thanks.

do update us again when >10k thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(angel of deauth @ Sep 3 2017, 01:43 PM)
No links for the product that I could find.

Got it from Autosavers PJ at RM890 for all 4 with installation.
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do you service your forte at Autosavers too? between Autosavers and Korean Car Mates, which is more good?
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nice share.

thanks.

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do you service your forte at Autosavers too? between Autosavers and Korean Car Mates, which is more good?
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I did service with them when I changed my absorbers, vbelt, lower arm, vbelt, bush, tensioner bearing.... They used HKS 10W40 (I think) fully synthetic oil. My first time with them and many things done at one time lah. Seems ok.

Haven't been KCM. I used to service at Naza Kia.

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QUOTE(angel of deauth @ Sep 3 2017, 01:20 PM)
I'm kind if happy to report the purple absorbers from KSW are pretty good. So, if you ever get a good deal on them, it's worth considering.

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Last time changed at Autosaver PJ also with some unknow KSA brand Absorber. Not good.

At least now they change to KSW and with website...lol
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QUOTE(thinkgoodpositive @ Sep 4 2017, 01:17 PM)
Last time changed at Autosaver PJ also with some unknow KSA brand Absorber. Not good.

At least now they change to KSW and with website...lol
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Like this? I was using KSA for less than a week before it blew out the oil. Then only changed to the purple one.

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QUOTE(angel of deauth @ Sep 4 2017, 01:58 PM)
Like this? I was using KSA for less than a week before it blew out the oil. Then only changed to the purple one.

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Ya, saw KSA brand on it...but my one is got sound after few weeks of replacement there...I didn't go to see got oil leakage or not....free replace one pc after complain...but still KSA...until now not so good feeling in front...

I think they know it as so many replacements done...

You just try the purple one for few more months and see...hope can tahan.

PS: To other members, please beware of this KSA brand since Angel of Death and me got problem of it.

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QUOTE(thinkgoodpositive @ Sep 4 2017, 03:59 PM)
Ya, saw KSA brand on it...but my one is got sound after few weeks of replacement there...I didn't go to see got oil leakage or not....free replace one pc after complain...but still KSA...until now not so good feeling in front...

I think they know it as so many replacements done...

You just try the purple one for few more months and see...hope can tahan.

PS: To other members, please beware of this KSA brand since Angel of Death and me got problem of it.
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I will definitely report back for you.
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Did I tell you guys about the story that my shifter pulled into Neutral when I accelerate from standstill?
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Did I tell you guys about the story that my shifter pulled into Neutral when I accelerate from standstill?
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I think no, never notice in the forum here...I only tried b4 the shifter loose and can't change gear at all...
At the end, change the whole set at SC, around 700

pls elaborate your problem and solution?

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QUOTE(thinkgoodpositive @ Sep 5 2017, 08:13 AM)
I think no, never notice in the forum here...I only tried b4 the shifter loose and can't change gear at all...
At the end, change the whole set at SC, around 700

pls elaborate your problem and solution?
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Halfway typing, macam told before.. but let me just repeat myself.

Problem : accelerating from standstill (traffic lights, park) at 1st gear in D may cause the gear shifter to move forward and touch N. Causing the car to lose drive halfway. Accelerating hard will just pop the gear into neutral. In short, dangerous.

Cause : not gearbox in my case. But weakened engine mount allowing engine to twist forward under torque, pulling the gear cable forward also.

Short fix : hold the gear shifter so it doesn't move when in 1st gear.

Mid term fix : adjusted gear cable to have some slack. This causes the gear shifter to be rougher to engage though.

Long term fix : change engine mount. Don't know how much this one yet.
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tarik to right... as manual gear.. can?
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Can. But no different from just holding the shifter until it goes into 2nd.
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there is.

u no need to hold the gear stick.... no?
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QUOTE(angel of deauth @ Sep 5 2017, 01:08 PM)
Halfway typing, macam told before.. but let me just repeat myself.

Problem : accelerating from standstill (traffic lights, park) at 1st gear in D may cause the gear shifter to move forward and touch N. Causing the car to lose drive halfway. Accelerating hard will just pop the gear into neutral. In short, dangerous.

Cause : not gearbox in my case. But weakened engine mount allowing engine to twist forward under torque, pulling the gear cable forward also.

Short fix : hold the gear shifter so it doesn't move when in 1st gear.

Mid term fix : adjusted gear cable to have some slack. This causes the gear shifter to be rougher to engage though.

Long term fix : change engine mount. Don't know how much this one yet.

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If not mistaken about RM800 - 900 (not Naza Kia SC pricing)
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there is.

u no need to hold the gear stick.... no?
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You are right. Just need to push it back for automatic again or manually shift after that. It only moved in 1st gear.

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QUOTE(Lanchio @ Sep 5 2017, 02:36 PM)
If not mistaken about RM800 - 900 (not Naza Kia SC pricing)
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QUOTE(angel of deauth @ Sep 5 2017, 02:45 PM)
You are right. Just need to push it back for automatic again or manually shift after that. It only moved in 1st gear.
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Can. But no different from just holding the shifter until it goes into 2nd.
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You are right. Just need to push it back for automatic again or manually shift after that. It only moved in 1st gear.
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IMHO, better to take Craxors' advice using Manual shifting.

Reason: Imagine this; you're driving uphill and there's an opportunity to overtake. You push the accelerator pedal, TCU downshifts, engine jerks forward due to engine mounting play/loosened, your gear lever drops to N. God bless.

*just saying, with plenty of touchwood on my part*
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QUOTE(rompers @ Sep 5 2017, 05:49 PM)
IMHO, better to take Craxors' advice using Manual shifting.

Reason: Imagine this; you're driving uphill and there's an opportunity to overtake. You push the accelerator pedal, TCU downshifts, engine jerks forward due to engine mounting play/loosened, your gear lever drops to N. God bless.

*just saying, with plenty of touchwood on my part*
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Really God bless if that day comes.

Having the cable adjusted solved my problem, sort of. It doesn't pull anymore now. Hope it stays that way a while longer.

When it pulled, it only happens on 1st gear. Gears 2 - 6 and back no issue. TCU doesn't ever downshift to 1st on kickdown... I hope.
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QUOTE(angel of deauth @ Sep 4 2017, 01:06 PM)
Ok boss!
I did service with them when I changed my absorbers, vbelt, lower arm, vbelt, bush, tensioner bearing.... They used HKS 10W40 (I think) fully synthetic oil. My first time with them and many things done at one time lah. Seems ok.

Haven't been KCM. I used to service at Naza Kia.
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The price of the part and labor cost is much cheaper in autosavers compared to naza kia service centre?

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Dear all sifu, 2 questions from me and hope you can supply your expert advise...

1. i just bought the carbon air con filter and already install because i want the air con to be in auto mode so can suck some oxygen from outside sometime. so I press the "AUTO" button to make it auto, but the auto word gone missing after i restart the car and i always need to press "AUTO" button everytime i restart the car, is my air con panel got problem?

2. I saw a video in youtube and the youtuber said about changing the air con compressor oil, i never change before. Did you change it to prevent damage of air con compressor? I can't find this in the car manual, wondering whether our forte's air con compressor got such oil or not...

Please advise ya all Sifus...

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The price of the part and labor cost is much cheaper in autosavers compared to naza kia service centre?
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For that 1 time i went to autosavers, yes.
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This is an old topic, but does anyone here still have their car lights flickering at idle? The SC tells me the battery I use isn't up to spec (ridiculous explanation IMO) but reading other threads tells me that the wiring harness is the issue. If there are others in this forum who had solved this, pray tell.

The other problem I'm facing now is the faint krk klok sound from time to time, especially when on slightly bumpy roads. I thought it to be the CV joint but there appears to be no rip in the rubber cover. However, it does make the occasional sound when turning left, so, would that the be CV joint needing additional grease even though everything is sealed?

Hmmm...
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QUOTE(alextyw85 @ Sep 6 2017, 11:50 AM)
Dear all sifu, 2 questions from me and hope you can supply your expert advise...

2. I saw a video in youtube and the youtuber said about changing the air con compressor oil, i never change before. Did you change it to prevent damage of air con compressor? I can't find this in the car manual, wondering whether our forte's air con compressor got such oil or not...

Actually the oil mentioned is already pre-mixed into the AC's refrigerant.
It is recommended to have a vehicle's AC refrigerant fully evacuated, before replacing with fresh refrigerant every 2 or 3 years.



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QUOTE(pubmut @ Sep 6 2017, 03:18 PM)
This is an old topic, but does anyone here still have their car lights flickering at idle? The SC tells me the battery I use isn't up to spec (ridiculous explanation IMO) but reading other threads tells me that the wiring harness is the issue. If there are others in this forum who had solved this, pray tell.

The other problem I'm facing now is the faint krk klok sound from time to time, especially when on slightly bumpy roads. I thought it to be the CV joint but there appears to be no rip in the rubber cover. However, it does make the occasional sound when turning left, so, would that the be CV joint needing additional grease even though everything is sealed?

Hmmm...
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What battery are you using? If you have an external wiring harness that you can directly plug into the battery, you can confirm if it's the battery and the stock wiring harness.

At the time it makes the sound, does it also have a "freeplay" or looseness in the steering? Only in left turns or left turns + bumpy roads?

Could be CV, could be a lower arm bush.
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Actually the oil mentioned is already pre-mixed into the AC's refrigerant.
It is recommended to have a vehicle's AC refrigerant fully evacuated, before replacing with fresh refrigerant every 2 or 3 years.

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Thank you for your advise, I never service my air con since day 1 till now, already 4.5 years car and service centre never request me to service the air con, wondering whether they know how to service the air con or not....
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QUOTE(alextyw85 @ Sep 7 2017, 11:55 AM)
Thank you for your advise, I never service my air con since day 1 till now, already 4.5 years car and service centre never request me to service the air con, wondering whether they know how to service the air con or not....
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Ya, I also never service the AC, worry the SC spoil it. Also they never ask.
But actually if u check, they actually receive memo from HQ have to advise us at least to replace the AC Condenser Receiver Drier for xxkm mileage.
This Drier if u open, very dirty and could stuck the AC condenser. Google Condenser Receiver Drier for more details.

Kia SC at Puchong never advise me for 4 years service there, I just saw that memo in another branch.
May be too much work for them and scare spoil our AC. As it may need to flush the whole AC system.
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QUOTE(thinkgoodpositive @ Sep 7 2017, 02:51 PM)
Ya, I also never service the AC, worry the SC spoil it. Also they never ask.
But actually if u check, they actually receive memo from HQ have to advise us at least to replace the AC Condenser Receiver Drier for xxkm mileage.
This Drier if u open, very dirty and could stuck the AC condenser. Google Condenser Receiver Drier for more details.

Kia SC at Puchong never advise me for 4 years service there, I just saw that memo in another branch.
May be too much work for them and scare spoil our AC. As it may need to flush the whole AC system.
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Thanks for this info. I wondering whether they know how to replace the Condenser Receiver Drier or not... i plan to go denso shop to service my air con but it seems like our air con not denso, have to find time to find the brand of the air con...
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Question.

Rear anti-roll bar. Yes/no?

Have you done it?
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Question.

Rear anti-roll bar. Yes/no?

Have you done it?
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i vote YES.

friends said totally can feel the different.

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Question.

Rear anti-roll bar. Yes/no?

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how much damage?
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Ultra Racing rear anti-roll 19mm bar is around 550 on average.
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Ultra Racing rear anti-roll 19mm bar is around 550 on average.
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hey guys, any where to fix steering rack below rm1000??
thanks~ asked a few with so high price ishh
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hey guys, any where to fix steering rack below rm1000??
thanks~ asked a few with so high price ishh
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kluk kluk sound on bumpy road aikk
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QUOTE(kayclum @ Sep 12 2017, 02:38 PM)
kluk kluk sound on bumpy road aikk
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tyre area?

not check stabilizer link?
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that sound is very hard to determine which part is faulty. can be lower arm, tie rod, rack end, steering rack, steering column, absorber, stabilizer link and bushes. If wanna check on steering rack, i saw a post from ALK Automobile, but saw someone complain on the PU Superpro bushes. Or maybe find some shop which can diagnose on the rattling noise produced. I saw Speedmod motorsport having some kind of diagnostic. Shops mentioned above is just purely from observations. Personally went to speedmod for service routine and replacing parts before. Hope this helps cool2.gif

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QUOTE(angel of deauth @ Sep 7 2017, 08:35 AM)
What battery are you using? If you have an external wiring harness that you can directly plug into the battery, you can confirm if it's the battery and the stock wiring harness.

At the time it makes the sound, does it also have a "freeplay" or looseness in the steering? Only in left turns or left turns + bumpy roads?

Could be CV, could be a lower arm bush.
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I'm using Panasonic battery and the mechanic I asked used some fancy gadget to test the battery condition and it's still in great condition. Only think I can think of now is the wiring harness. I don't have any external wiring harness and where do I get them?? When I search for "wiring harness for 2012 Forte" all I get is radio wiring harness but no wiring harness for fuse box or elsewhere. Would be great to find a wireman who can sort me out.

For the krk klok sound, at the time it makes it, there's no freeplay or looseness in the steering at all - not to my experience. Only happens on bumpy roads and turning left. I did notice a busted bush cover on the top side of the suspension coil where the shock absorbers sit but I didn't think that would be problematic because it's not grease filled or anything.

It could probably be the loweer arm bush but I had my mechanic test it and he doesn't think it to be problematic.

I guess I'll need to get the mechanic to fix the busted bush cover first before considering the lower arm bush. SC prefers to change the lower arm assembly completely for the usual 1xxx price. sad.gif

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QUOTE(kayclum @ Sep 12 2017, 02:38 PM)
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cooljik93 and craxors have points.

several possible things that makes noises like that. better to check proper at a mechanic. unless confirmed it was steering rack from before..


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QUOTE(pubmut @ Sep 12 2017, 03:31 PM)
I'm using Panasonic battery and the mechanic I asked used some fancy gadget to test the battery condition and it's still in great condition. Only think I can think of now is the wiring harness. I don't have any external wiring harness and where do I get them?? When I search for "wiring harness for 2012 Forte" all I get is radio wiring harness but no wiring harness for fuse box or elsewhere. Would be great to find a wireman who can sort me out.

For the krk klok sound, at the time it makes it, there's no freeplay or looseness in the steering at all - not to my experience. Only happens on bumpy roads and turning left. I did notice a busted bush cover on the top side of the suspension coil where the shock absorbers sit but I didn't think that would be problematic because it's not grease filled or anything.

It could probably be the loweer arm bush but I had my mechanic test it and he doesn't think it to be problematic.

I guess I'll need to get the mechanic to fix the busted bush cover first before considering the lower arm bush. SC prefers to change the lower arm assembly completely for the usual 1xxx price. sad.gif

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It looks something like this (this is for H4) : H4 Wiring Harness

Is there a direction to this sound? Left, Right, Center?

If your mechanic thinks it isn't problematic and if you don't feel any mechanical play and IF you can live with it, it should be fine.
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QUOTE(pubmut @ Sep 12 2017, 03:31 PM)
I'm using Panasonic battery and the mechanic I asked used some fancy gadget to test the battery condition and it's still in great condition. Only think I can think of now is the wiring harness. I don't have any external wiring harness and where do I get them?? When I search for "wiring harness for 2012 Forte" all I get is radio wiring harness but no wiring harness for fuse box or elsewhere. Would be great to find a wireman who can sort me out.

For the krk klok sound, at the time it makes it, there's no freeplay or looseness in the steering at all - not to my experience. Only happens on bumpy roads and turning left. I did notice a busted bush cover on the top side of the suspension coil where the shock absorbers sit but I didn't think that would be problematic because it's not grease filled or anything.

It could probably be the loweer arm bush but I had my mechanic test it and he doesn't think it to be problematic.

I guess I'll need to get the mechanic to fix the busted bush cover first before considering the lower arm bush. SC prefers to change the lower arm assembly completely for the usual 1xxx price. sad.gif

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for the klok klok sound, if the steering area do not have free play thats a good news too. At least you dont need to worry on steering rack and column which would cost a bomb. I bet you would like to check the listed item by me on the above comments. By the way i missed out few points in that post. Ball Joint and also Absorber mounting. If your car is not under warranty, do not change the parts in SC. It surely makes a big hole in your wallet. Visit any spare part shop and get your lower arm original at around 280 per piece.

If during you turn and accelerate, it produce some sound, might also check on the drive shaft.

Hopes it helps. biggrin.gif
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kia forte 2010 4 speed spark plug what parts number to use as original used from kia? And the v belt under normal driving condition when to replace and estimated how much for original ?
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QUOTE(angel of deauth @ Sep 12 2017, 07:40 PM)
It looks something like this (this is for H4) : H4 Wiring Harness

Is there a direction to this sound? Left, Right, Center?

If your mechanic thinks it isn't problematic and if you don't feel any mechanical play and IF you can live with it, it should be fine.
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Thanks for the sample pic of the H4. I'll need to look at the specs for the headlights for the Forte. Offhand do you know what the spec is?

The sound comes from the front left side of the car and I'm now getting convinced that I should change the lower arm bushing. Problem is - do mechanics have the tools to remove the bushing?

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QUOTE(cooljik93 @ Sep 13 2017, 09:59 AM)
for the klok klok sound, if the steering area do not have free play thats a good news too. At least you dont need to worry on steering rack and column which would cost a bomb. I bet you would like to check the listed item by me on the above comments. By the way i missed out few points in that post. Ball Joint and also Absorber mounting. If your car is not under warranty, do not change the parts in SC. It surely makes a big hole in your wallet. Visit any spare part shop and get your lower arm original at around 280 per piece.

If during you turn and accelerate, it produce some sound, might also check on the drive shaft.

Hopes it helps.  biggrin.gif
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Ack! I got a quote for the lower arm assembly original at RM380 per piece. Now I have to go around price checking.

I've no plans to go back to the SC for any servicing from this point forward after the warranty expired. I'll be needing to have a mechanic check things over thoroughly before buying the parts.

So far there hasn't been any sound when I turn and accelerate, so I hope that the drive shaft is in good order.

Thanks.

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QUOTE(kayclum @ Sep 12 2017, 02:38 PM)
kluk kluk sound on bumpy road aikk
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Forte 2.0?
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Forte 2.0?
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1.6 bro
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QUOTE(pubmut @ Sep 13 2017, 08:30 PM)
Thanks for the sample pic of the H4. I'll need to look at the specs for the headlights for the Forte. Offhand do you know what the spec is?

The sound comes from the front left side of the car and I'm now getting convinced that I should change the lower arm bushing. Problem is - do mechanics have the tools to remove the bushing?
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Our Forte's are using H7 bulbs for the low beam. Same 12V55W.

I did change for a pair of reconditioned lower arm assemblies at Autosavers for RM250/pc. 2nd month in and it's doing fine.

My friend's experience however, isn't quite the same. We changed at the same time and he had to get it replaced again the following week. The bush got loose and was causing new knocking sounds.

Just so you know what's possible with recon.
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QUOTE(pubmut @ Sep 13 2017, 08:33 PM)
Ack! I got a quote for the lower arm assembly original at RM380 per piece. Now I have to go around price checking.

I've no plans to go back to the SC for any servicing from this point forward after the warranty expired. I'll be needing to have a mechanic check things over thoroughly before buying the parts.

So far there hasn't been any sound when I turn and accelerate, so I hope that the drive shaft is in good order.

Thanks.
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where is your location? if no more warranty then not worth staying in SC. Go for a good mechanic and have a check on it. i also dont wish any of you guys kena potong. I will just include some of my inputs. Note that data is past few months ago. Might not be the same for now.

PJ PH Auto Spare Part shop - lower arm 285 before gst
Express Mobis Jln Ipoh/Segambut - lower arm 300+/-

Both of the shop mentioned above are the spare part shop which i will get my parts from. There are still few stockist. like vanli and kia powers.
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QUOTE(kayclum @ Sep 14 2017, 08:46 AM)
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am having the same prob too
just changed lower arm & stabilizer link but problem still exist
please let me know if ur prob solve rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(TamashiiHeroes @ Sep 14 2017, 11:11 AM)
am having the same prob too
just changed lower arm & stabilizer link but problem still exist
please let me know if ur prob solve rclxms.gif
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different car maybe different issue, while there are few parts like absorber, absorber mouting, engine mounting, tie rod, rack end also may cause this noise.
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QUOTE(TamashiiHeroes @ Sep 14 2017, 11:11 AM)
am having the same prob too
just changed lower arm & stabilizer link but problem still exist
please let me know if ur prob solve rclxms.gif
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yea i changed all these , so end up forman said is steering rack aiks
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QUOTE(kayclum @ Sep 14 2017, 11:59 AM)
yea i changed all these , so end up forman said is steering rack aiks
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after change.. ok?
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QUOTE(kayclum @ Sep 14 2017, 11:59 AM)
yea i changed all these , so end up forman said is steering rack aiks
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was suspect is absorber prob
but my foreman told me it still working fine
they aint sure if i changed it will solve the prob o not
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QUOTE(angel of deauth @ Sep 14 2017, 09:29 AM)
Our Forte's are using H7 bulbs for the low beam. Same 12V55W.

I did change for a pair of reconditioned lower arm assemblies at Autosavers for RM250/pc. 2nd month in and it's doing fine.

My friend's experience however, isn't quite the same. We changed at the same time and he had to get it replaced again the following week. The bush got loose and was causing new knocking sounds.

Just so you know what's possible with recon.
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I've no plans to go with reconditioned units and I wonder if Autosavers or any other mechanic will want to just change the bushings after I buy them. Express Mobis quoted RM45 (ori) RM26 (OEM) for the big bushing and RM25 (ori) RM18 (OEM) for small bushings. I looked up How to Change Bushings on Youtube and it looks like one needs to have the right tools to do so. Otherwise it's not very good.

Incidentally I called up Hyunkia to ask for the lower arm assembly and they quoted an OEM for RM155. Now I wonder if I heard wrongly or are these OEM units reconditioned...
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QUOTE(cooljik93 @ Sep 14 2017, 09:41 AM)
where is your location? if no more warranty then not worth staying in SC. Go for a good mechanic and have a check on it. i also dont wish any of you guys kena potong. I will just include some of my inputs. Note that data is past few months ago. Might not be the same for now.

PJ PH Auto Spare Part shop - lower arm 285 before gst
Express Mobis Jln Ipoh/Segambut - lower arm 300+/-

Both of the shop mentioned above are the spare part shop which i will get my parts from. There are still few stockist. like vanli and kia powers.
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Thanks. I checked with Hyunkia and they quoted RM155 (OEM) for the lower arm assembly. I wonder if I heard wrong.

Anyway, do you have any opinion about Autobiz Autosavers? Is it worth giving them a try?
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QUOTE(pubmut @ Sep 14 2017, 06:46 PM)
Thanks. I checked with Hyunkia and they quoted RM155 (OEM) for the lower arm assembly. I wonder if I heard wrong.

Anyway, do you have any opinion about Autobiz Autosavers? Is it worth giving them a try?
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OEM depends on which brand you are talking about. I've quoted RM185 for Onnuri Brand. For me I wont visit those shop. So called famous or what. Waste of time. Wait and wait and wait. Very less shop doing for changing of bushes only. Because its not an easy work. Require right tool for it. Have to force it in/out. But for recondition pairs for 250 + 250 i would rather pay for an OEM.
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Hi all, I have an issue on my fog light on my forte, initially i thought was my fog light bulb spoiled but after i install new bulb, my fog light still does not work, the fog light indicator not showing on my dash. what is the problem ya? please help...

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Hi all, I have an issue on my fog light on my forte, initially i thought was my fog light bulb spoiled but after i install new bulb, my fog light still does not work, the fog light indicator not showing on my dash. what is the problem ya? please help...
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Checked your fuse in fuse box yet?
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QUOTE(cooljik93 @ Sep 15 2017, 09:18 AM)
OEM depends on which brand you are talking about. I've quoted RM185 for Onnuri Brand. For me I wont visit those shop. So called famous or what. Waste of time. Wait and wait and wait. Very less shop doing for changing of bushes only. Because its not an easy work. Require right tool for it. Have to force it in/out. But for recondition pairs for 250 + 250 i would rather pay for an OEM.
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Don't be like me.

Also, have you guys heard of the brake light switch issue/recall?
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QUOTE(Lanchio @ Sep 15 2017, 05:42 PM)
Checked your fuse in fuse box yet?
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Yup, I checked the fuse and made a swap, but does not work too.
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QUOTE(angel of deauth @ Sep 15 2017, 05:58 PM)
Don't be like me.

Also, have you guys heard of the brake light switch issue/recall?
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is it brake switch ?
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is it brake switch ?
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Specifically, the switch above the brake pedal.

Yes.
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QUOTE(angel of deauth @ Sep 15 2017, 07:22 PM)
Specifically, the switch above the brake pedal.

Yes.
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Driving just now, my car lost power. Throttle no response. Had to coast to roadside, shut off and on. Was ok for a while until the TCS light came on and caused the car to cut power again. Had to drive with TCS off.

When parked, saw the brake lights on. Looked under dash, the plastic cap that pushes the brake light switch hancur already. Using the broken piece and some masking tape, I temporarily put it back.

Car is ok again after that.

Suspect the light switch is more than a brake light switch. TCS, engine, cruise control, ignition and gear rely on it.
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QUOTE(tyduztck89 @ Sep 15 2017, 06:05 PM)
Yup, I checked the fuse and made a swap, but does not work too.
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How about the fuse in the instrument panel fuse panel, the one next to the dash when you open the driver door?

Suspect it is one of the 10A relay for the HEAD LAMP or FOG LP/SSB. Since we don't have rear fog lamps, maybe that FOG LP fuse controls the switch relay for the front fogs.
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QUOTE(angel of deauth @ Sep 15 2017, 09:03 PM)
How about the fuse in the instrument panel fuse panel, the one next to the dash when you open the driver door?

Suspect it is one of the 10A relay for the HEAD LAMP or FOG LP/SSB. Since we don't have rear fog lamps, maybe that FOG LP fuse controls the switch relay for the front fogs.
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No luck.. just check and swap the fuses but the the fog light indicator not light up.. could it be the multi-switch lever?
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No luck.. just check and swap the fuses but the the fog light indicator not light up.. could it be the multi-switch lever?
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that, or your wires to the fog lamps.
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I see that a few of you have the kluk kluk issue. Same as me too.

For my issue, the sound happens when i'm driving around 10-60kph at a straight line. Also when turning the steering from a stopped position going to accelerate, if you know what i mean. A mechanic i went to says that it could be the steering rack but i did not do any action on it yet.

And regarding servicing the car, i assume that it's no longer recommended to send for servicing at kia's sc anymore after the warranty is over right? or is there any advantages for still sending it to the kia sc? probably a noob question, so apologies in advance.

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I see that a few of you have the kluk kluk issue. Same as me too.

For my issue, the sound happens when i'm driving around 10-60kph at a straight line. Also when turning the steering from a stopped position going to accelerate, if you know what i mean. A mechanic i went to says that it could be the steering rack but i did not do any action on it yet.

And regarding servicing the car, i assume that it's no longer recommended to send for servicing at kia's sc anymore after the warranty is over right? or is there any advantages for still sending it to the kia sc? probably a noob question, so apologies in advance.
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Going to an SC is going to be a bit more expensive. But if you trust them and if it gives you peace of mind, there's nothing wrong. Same goes for specialist workshops. Personally, if money isn't an issue, I'd rather send it back to SC.

If your sound happens when you're turning in standstill, it very likely is the steering rack or a ball joint already.
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QUOTE(angel of deauth @ Sep 17 2017, 08:10 AM)
Going to an SC is going to be a bit more expensive. But if you trust them and if it gives you peace of mind, there's nothing wrong. Same goes for specialist workshops. Personally, if money isn't an issue, I'd rather send it back to SC.

If your sound happens when you're turning in standstill, it very likely is the steering rack or a ball joint already.
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Going to SC during warranty period is a must but i'm not too sure with the warranty period over ady. Almost double the price with a normal workshop.

Thanks for the acknowledgement regarding the steering rack. Does the steering rack also contribute to the kluk kluk sound when going in a straight line at 10-60kph?

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Going to SC during warranty period is a must but i'm not too sure with the warranty period over ady. Almost double the price with a normal workshop.

Thanks for the acknowledgement regarding the steering rack. Does the steering rack also contribute to the kluk kluk sound when going in a straight line at 10-60kph?
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Always have sound regardless of road conditions?
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QUOTE(angel of deauth @ Sep 17 2017, 06:12 PM)
Always have sound regardless of road conditions?
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Not 100% of the time. But yes when got sound, even when road is smooth.
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QUOTE(plateau @ Sep 17 2017, 10:40 PM)
Not 100% of the time. But yes when got sound, even when road is smooth.
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the sound coming from steering area? or tyre? or engine bay? hmm.gif
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Hi, wanna ask how much engine oil is needed for 1.6 sx engine? Am using fuchs supersyn 5w40. And I have prob when pressing the pedal slightly, cit cit sound occurs. Then when I tekan pedal more (on or off air-condition) , the cit cit sound is gone. Pls advise me. Thank you.
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QUOTE(craxors @ Sep 18 2017, 08:08 AM)
the sound coming from steering area? or tyre? or engine bay?  hmm.gif
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Really hard to pin point but i think that it could be from the steering area at bottom part or nearby the engine bay.
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QUOTE(cooljik93 @ Sep 15 2017, 09:18 AM)
OEM depends on which brand you are talking about. I've quoted RM185 for Onnuri Brand. For me I wont visit those shop. So called famous or what. Waste of time. Wait and wait and wait. Very less shop doing for changing of bushes only. Because its not an easy work. Require right tool for it. Have to force it in/out. But for recondition pairs for 250 + 250 i would rather pay for an OEM.
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DYC if I recall correctly when talking to the guy. Anyway I dropped by AutoSaver and got it fixed for RM190. Apparently it was the absorber link rod that was worn and so one pair was installed, incidentally an OEM version (I couldn't see the brand name).

Now I'm focused on getting the light flicker issue...
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QUOTE(pubmut @ Sep 18 2017, 11:02 PM)
DYC if I recall correctly when talking to the guy. Anyway I dropped by AutoSaver and got it fixed for RM190. Apparently it was the absorber link rod that was worn and so one pair was installed, incidentally an OEM version (I couldn't see the brand name).

Now I'm focused on getting the light flicker issue...
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190 for both side?
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QUOTE(nelsonooi7 @ Sep 18 2017, 05:18 PM)
Hi, wanna ask how much engine oil is needed for 1.6 sx engine? Am using fuchs supersyn 5w40. And I have prob when pressing the pedal slightly, cit cit sound occurs. Then when I tekan pedal more (on or off air-condition) , the cit cit sound is gone. Pls advise me. Thank you.
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Engine Oil capacity = ~3.7 Litres

"Cit cit" sound?
Based on your description, highly likely could be your V-Belt (and/or Belt Tensioner). To be sure, you could try asking someone for help to press the accelerator pedal while you listen carefully at the Engine Bay.
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QUOTE(rompers @ Sep 19 2017, 10:58 AM)
Engine Oil capacity = ~3.7 Litres

"Cit cit" sound?
Based on your description, highly likely could be your V-Belt (and/or Belt Tensioner). To be sure, you could try asking someone for help to press the accelerator pedal while you listen carefully at the Engine Bay.
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Hi, tried with the accelerator on static (vehicle not moving) but no sound only when moving with low acceleration. Vbelt just change. Perhaps I will try check the tensioner. Thank you!
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QUOTE(pubmut @ Sep 18 2017, 11:02 PM)
DYC if I recall correctly when talking to the guy. Anyway I dropped by AutoSaver and got it fixed for RM190. Apparently it was the absorber link rod that was worn and so one pair was installed, incidentally an OEM version (I couldn't see the brand name).

Now I'm focused on getting the light flicker issue...
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Never heard of the brand. Autosaver got lots of OEM brands too. Depends on luck i guess. If its okay then good to go! smile.gif
Regarding to those weird noise and worsen handling. Lastly i decided to fix them all at once. Bought everything needed and get it fix soon. ball joint, tie rod, rack end, lower arm bushes(Decided to change the bushes first). Total of RM440+ include gst. Mix of originals and oem parts. cool2.gif
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QUOTE(nelsonooi7 @ Sep 18 2017, 05:18 PM)
Hi, wanna ask how much engine oil is needed for 1.6 sx engine? Am using fuchs supersyn 5w40. And I have prob when pressing the pedal slightly, cit cit sound occurs. Then when I tekan pedal more (on or off air-condition) , the cit cit sound is gone. Pls advise me. Thank you.
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QUOTE(rompers @ Sep 19 2017, 09:58 AM)
Engine Oil capacity = ~3.7 Litres

"Cit cit" sound?
Based on your description, highly likely could be your V-Belt (and/or Belt Tensioner). To be sure, you could try asking someone for help to press the accelerator pedal while you listen carefully at the Engine Bay.
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3.7 litre from manual right? I serviced with 3 quartz of oil only. The indicator shows oil level at mid. I also shocked.

Regarding to the sound, last time i fixed by changing tensioner bearing + V-Belt at the same time. Faulty tensioner bearing can be seen when engine is running. There shows some symptom like shaking of the tensioner bearing. Hope it helps. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(cooljik93 @ Sep 19 2017, 12:01 PM)
3.7 litre from manual right? I serviced with 3 quartz of oil only. The indicator shows oil level at mid. I also shocked.

Regarding to the sound, last time i fixed by changing tensioner bearing + V-Belt at the same time. Faulty tensioner bearing can be seen when engine is running. There shows some symptom like shaking of the tensioner bearing. Hope it helps.  biggrin.gif
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Bro, wanna to ask about "Faulty tensioner bearing can be seen when engine is running. There shows some symptom like shaking of the tensioner bearing.".

My car engine vibrant when in D gear with foot brake (car not moving), is this what you have experience about the shaking???
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QUOTE(alextyw85 @ Sep 19 2017, 12:01 PM)
Bro, wanna to ask about "Faulty tensioner bearing can be seen when engine is running. There shows some symptom like shaking of the tensioner bearing.".

My car engine vibrant when in D gear with foot brake (car not moving), is this what you have experience about the shaking???
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The faulty tensioner bearing should appear once engine starts when the belt and the tensioner bearing is moving. Because my faulty tensioner tends to shake while in idling mode. When D gear having shakes usually dirty throttle body or worn out sparks. How much is the RPM?
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theres an article i'v read some times ago.. (but not remember the link sad.gif )..

one of the reason tensioner pulley/bearing shaking is because of the faulty alternator.

*if i remember it well. sweat.gif

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there are cases, members in forte fb group, did change the pulleys.. and solved their issues.

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QUOTE(craxors @ Sep 19 2017, 12:35 PM)
theres an article i'v read some times ago.. (but not remember the link sad.gif )..

one of the reason tensioner pulley/bearing shaking is because of the faulty alternator.

*if i remember it well.  sweat.gif

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there are cases, members in forte fb group, did change the pulleys.. and solved their issues.
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For my issue, its the tensioner issue. How to say ah. Not shaky its not the tensioner will behave not smoothly. Got punchy feel. The mechanic shows me the issue. I also dont know how to describe. rclxub.gif
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anyone know where to get replacement for Left Hand (LH) side mirror folding gear? Mine busted. Read some forumer post guide to replace the gear but I couldn't locate the source in purchasing the gear.


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QUOTE(nelsonooi7 @ Sep 18 2017, 05:18 PM)
Hi, wanna ask how much engine oil is needed for 1.6 sx engine? Am using fuchs supersyn 5w40. And I have prob when pressing the pedal slightly, cit cit sound occurs. Then when I tekan pedal more (on or off air-condition) , the cit cit sound is gone. Pls advise me. Thank you.
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QUOTE(rompers @ Sep 19 2017, 09:58 AM)
Engine Oil capacity = ~3.7 Litres

"Cit cit" sound?
Based on your description, highly likely could be your V-Belt (and/or Belt Tensioner). To be sure, you could try asking someone for help to press the accelerator pedal while you listen carefully at the Engine Bay.
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QUOTE(cooljik93 @ Sep 19 2017, 11:01 AM)
3.7 litre from manual right? I serviced with 3 quartz of oil only. The indicator shows oil level at mid. I also shocked.

Regarding to the sound, last time i fixed by changing tensioner bearing + V-Belt at the same time. Faulty tensioner bearing can be seen when engine is running. There shows some symptom like shaking of the tensioner bearing. Hope it helps.  biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(cooljik93 @ Sep 19 2017, 04:24 PM)
For my issue, its the tensioner issue. How to say ah. Not shaky its not the tensioner will behave not smoothly. Got punchy feel. The mechanic shows me the issue. I also dont know how to describe.  rclxub.gif
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+1 to the belt tensioner bearing possibly the cause. The "cit cit" sound is like a chirping sound near the belts. Changed it and sound went away.

thought it was alternator at first.

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QUOTE(angel of deauth @ Sep 20 2017, 01:44 AM)
+1 to the belt tensioner bearing possibly the cause. The "cit cit" sound is like a chirping sound near the belts. Changed it and sound went away.

thought it was alternator at first.
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How much does the tensioner cost? Last night the sound gets stronger. Already saw the tensioner shaking haha!
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How much does the tensioner cost? Last night the sound gets stronger. Already saw the tensioner shaking haha!
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i forget the actual price. Around 200-300+ include labour for mine i guess. but did it last year la. Try to text this guy.

(spare part shop)Foo Express Mobis Segambut - 016 227 7455 not so friendly guy but will reply. direct ask what parts you want then he give pricing. hahah. his price is tip top for me. so i will just ignore the attitude. or maybe i ask too much. rclxm9.gif

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QUOTE(cooljik93 @ Sep 20 2017, 02:10 PM)
i forget the actual price. Around 200-300+ include labour for mine i guess. but did it last year la. Try to text this guy.

(spare part shop)Foo Express Mobis Segambut - 016 227 7455 not so friendly guy but will reply. direct ask what parts you want then he give pricing. hahah. his price is tip top for me. so i will just ignore the attitude. or maybe i ask too much.  rclxm9.gif
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Appreciate your info bro. Thanks!
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Appreciate your info bro. Thanks!
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QUOTE(cooljik93 @ Sep 19 2017, 01:16 PM)
The faulty tensioner bearing should appear once engine starts when the belt and the tensioner bearing is moving. Because my faulty tensioner tends to shake while in idling mode. When D gear having shakes usually dirty throttle body or worn out sparks. How much is the RPM?
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RPM is about 700 RPM when idle (D gear and car not moving). I sent to service centre, they help me to clean the throttle body (I don't know how they clean as I can't see them doing anything). When I get my car, I ask the malay that my car still shaking, she said is like that one. i totally speechless. in my memory, the engine was smooth when in idle. Until now, i still cannot find the solution....

I just feel wasting my time and money to send my car to service centre for inspection... they charge me RM 75 for inspection and few hundred for clean the throttle body. I request for waiver due to still under warranty but they refuse to waive as I request them to inspect the car and do the necessary action... less than 2 hundred was gone (can't remember the exact amount)... very dulan that time...
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QUOTE(alextyw85 @ Sep 21 2017, 11:12 AM)
RPM is about 700 RPM when idle (D gear and car not moving). I sent to service centre, they help me to clean the throttle body (I don't know how they clean as I can't see them doing anything). When I get my car, I ask the malay that my car still shaking, she said is like that one. i totally speechless. in my memory, the engine was smooth when in idle. Until now, i still cannot find the solution....

I just feel wasting my time and money to send my car to service centre for inspection... they charge me RM 75 for inspection and few hundred for clean the throttle body. I request for waiver due to still under warranty but they refuse to waive as I request them to inspect the car and do the necessary action... less than 2 hundred was gone (can't remember the exact amount)... very dulan that time...
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biasa la. SC is throat cutter. Basically if you paying that price, i would rather go outside to check. Cleaning of throttle body got few ways. Need to inspect slowly for this rough idling bro. Last time my vios cleaned throttle body with those spray also same effect. still shaky. The best part if there is foreman which will take the whole tb to clean it thoroughly but need an experience guy which wont mess up those sensors and wires and so on. What mileage and years of your ride?
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Hi, I have a other issue. Left side mirror not folding when pressing the fold button. I don't think is the gear problem cos no sound only the right side mirror folding. Could this be of wad problem? Pls share ya..
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QUOTE(pubmut @ Sep 18 2017, 11:02 PM)
DYC if I recall correctly when talking to the guy. Anyway I dropped by AutoSaver and got it fixed for RM190. Apparently it was the absorber link rod that was worn and so one pair was installed, incidentally an OEM version (I couldn't see the brand name).

Now I'm focused on getting the light flicker issue...
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What does DYC mean ya?
I tried looking it up online, but couldn't find the meaning to that acronym.
The closest was DYAC = Damn you auto correct

QUOTE(nelsonooi7 @ Sep 21 2017, 01:10 PM)
Hi, I have a other issue. Left side mirror not folding when pressing the fold button. I don't think is the gear problem cos no sound only the right side mirror folding. Could this be of wad problem? Pls share ya..
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Try checking the fuses on your fuse box.
Also, could be a faulty switch; which is why I always ensure that I wipe the door switches dry whenever there's contact with water and on rainy days, I'll use tissue paper to cover them up before opening the car door to get out sweat.gif Yes, it's somewhat tedious...
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What does DYC mean ya?
I tried looking it up online, but couldn't find the meaning to that acronym.
The closest was DYAC = Damn you auto correct
Try checking the fuses on your fuse box.
Also, could be a faulty switch; which is why I always ensure that I wipe the door switches dry whenever there's contact with water and on rainy days, I'll use tissue paper to cover them up before opening the car door to get out  sweat.gif  Yes, it's somewhat tedious...
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Only left side not folding, right side is ok. So how to know is switch problem? Could it be motor?
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Could be the motor control board or faulty motor. Opened mine few days ago and found the gear crack.
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QUOTE(nelsonooi7 @ Sep 21 2017, 07:22 PM)
Only left side not folding, right side is ok. So how to know is switch problem? Could it be motor?
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My bad. I didn't notice your statement which says that the issue is only affecting 1 side (L) of the side mirrors.

In this case, it shouldn't be faulty fuses or switch.
Only a few probable cause:

1) Wiring harness connecting to the side mirror's retractor motor has loosened (check via the back of the twitter cover),
2) Faulty retractor motor (since there isn't any whirring sound).
3) Broken gear (but you can only be sure of this if the retractor motor is working/whirring).

Hope this helps.
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QUOTE(angel of deauth @ Sep 17 2017, 06:12 PM)
Always have sound regardless of road conditions?
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QUOTE(craxors @ Sep 18 2017, 08:08 AM)
the sound coming from steering area? or tyre? or engine bay?  hmm.gif
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Just to update that i got the kluk kluk sound fixed. It was the absorber link as well. The rubber part was worn out and got both sides replaced. Total damage was rm125 per side x 2. So not too much damage there.
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QUOTE(plateau @ Sep 23 2017, 01:32 AM)
Just to update that i got the kluk kluk sound fixed. It was the absorber link as well. The rubber part was worn out and got both sides replaced. Total damage was rm125 per side x 2. So not too much damage there.
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QUOTE(rompers @ Sep 22 2017, 11:28 AM)
My bad. I didn't notice your statement which says that the issue is only affecting 1 side (L) of the side mirrors.

In this case, it shouldn't be faulty fuses or switch.
Only a few probable cause:

1) Wiring harness connecting to the side mirror's retractor motor has loosened (check via the back of the twitter cover),
2) Faulty retractor motor (since there isn't any whirring sound).
3) Broken gear (but you can only be sure of this if the retractor motor is working/whirring).

Hope this helps.
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Hi, so for faulty retractor motor, any solution to it? Tat is the problem now.
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Does anyone knows how much is it to just buy the tensioner pulley instead of the whole tensioner set? I saw the uneven movement last night with squeaking sound.
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QUOTE(cooljik93 @ Sep 19 2017, 10:25 AM)
Never heard of the brand. Autosaver got lots of OEM brands too. Depends on luck i guess. If its okay then good to go! smile.gif
Regarding to those weird noise and worsen handling. Lastly i decided to fix them all at once. Bought everything needed and get it fix soon. ball joint, tie rod, rack end, lower arm bushes(Decided to change the bushes first). Total of RM440+ include gst. Mix of originals and oem parts.  cool2.gif
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Keep us posted on your adventure with changing the lower arm bushings. I'm curious to find out if the mechanics like AutoSavers are willing to do just that instead of changing the entire lower arm assembly.

Meanwhile I sought a mechanic recommended by Express Mobis and after much testing on my light flickering issue, concluded that the alternator may be the problem. He checked the battery power using diagnostics and power ranged from 12.67V to 14.8V, which, in his opinion, the alternator is struggling to keep pace with the charging of the battery. It's not bad yet since going above 1000 RPMs the alternator is working very well. It's only idling when this happens.

When he tested the battery itself under load, the battery went from 14V to 10.5V. His suggestion - carry on with status quo until the alternator is completely dead and when the battery needs changing, change it to a high quality battery which may hold better than the popular brands. He alleges that many batteries do not really have the sufficient number of plates inside it to provide the necessary charge, something of which remains to be seen.

I wonder if an OEM alternator is a good choice though the mechanic doesn't think so. I'll have to do some more checking.

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QUOTE(alextyw85 @ Sep 21 2017, 11:12 AM)
RPM is about 700 RPM when idle (D gear and car not moving). I sent to service centre, they help me to clean the throttle body (I don't know how they clean as I can't see them doing anything). When I get my car, I ask the malay that my car still shaking, she said is like that one. i totally speechless. in my memory, the engine was smooth when in idle. Until now, i still cannot find the solution....

I just feel wasting my time and money to send my car to service centre for inspection... they charge me RM 75 for inspection and few hundred for clean the throttle body. I request for waiver due to still under warranty but they refuse to waive as I request them to inspect the car and do the necessary action... less than 2 hundred was gone (can't remember the exact amount)... very dulan that time...
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It could be that the throttle body is faulty and cleaning may not be the solution. You might have to change to a new throttle body.
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QUOTE(cooljik93 @ Sep 21 2017, 11:28 AM)
biasa la. SC is throat cutter. Basically if you paying that price, i would rather go outside to check. Cleaning of throttle body got few ways. Need to inspect slowly for this rough idling bro. Last time my vios cleaned throttle body with those spray also same effect. still shaky. The best part if there is foreman which will take the whole tb to clean it thoroughly but need an experience guy which wont mess up those sensors and wires and so on. What mileage and years of your ride?
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WRT to your Vios having rough idling, my previous City also had that and the mechanic I recently saw for my Forte told me that it's likely the idling valve within the throttle body that may be the cause, of which it will require changing instead of cleaning. That's his expert opinion. He's formerly a Hyundai mechanic.

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QUOTE(cooljik93 @ Sep 21 2017, 12:28 PM)
biasa la. SC is throat cutter. Basically if you paying that price, i would rather go outside to check. Cleaning of throttle body got few ways. Need to inspect slowly for this rough idling bro. Last time my vios cleaned throttle body with those spray also same effect. still shaky. The best part if there is foreman which will take the whole tb to clean it thoroughly but need an experience guy which wont mess up those sensors and wires and so on. What mileage and years of your ride?
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Bro, thanks for your advise. my car is 4 years and 68,000 KM (last batch of forte)
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As promised, i've changed parts listed as below. A mixture of Ori and OEM depending on the stockist.

- Lower Arm Bushes Big and Small (Ori & Oem)
- Ball Joint (oem)
- Tie Rod (Ori & Oem)
- Rack End (Oem)

Handling improves a lot compare to last time for sure. But still having shaky steering when high speed. Probably balancing and dented wheels. Regarding to kluk kluk sound, currently all has been eliminated. rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif

All the items above are from Express Mobis for RM445 + GST. Labour RM100 for installation, bushing labour 100. Total 200 labour + 445 = 645.
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QUOTE(cooljik93 @ Sep 26 2017, 10:16 AM)
As promised, i've changed parts listed as below. A mixture of Ori and OEM depending on the stockist.

- Lower Arm Bushes Big and Small (Ori & Oem)
- Ball Joint (oem)
- Tie Rod (Ori & Oem)
- Rack End (Oem)

Handling improves a lot compare to last time for sure. But still having shaky steering when high speed. Probably balancing and dented wheels. Regarding to kluk kluk sound, currently all has been eliminated.  rclxm9.gif  rclxm9.gif

All the items above are from Express Mobis for RM445 + GST. Labour RM100 for installation, bushing labour 100. Total 200 labour + 445 = 645.
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just the bushes? not whole lower arm?
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QUOTE(craxors @ Sep 26 2017, 11:39 AM)
just the bushes? not whole lower arm?
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yes dude. Since my foreman said workable with the bushes then i will give it a try. Bushes + labor for both side still cost lesser than 1 piece of new lower arm.
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QUOTE(cooljik93 @ Sep 26 2017, 10:16 AM)
As promised, i've changed parts listed as below. A mixture of Ori and OEM depending on the stockist.

- Lower Arm Bushes Big and Small (Ori & Oem)
- Ball Joint (oem)
- Tie Rod (Ori & Oem)
- Rack End (Oem)

Handling improves a lot compare to last time for sure. But still having shaky steering when high speed. Probably balancing and dented wheels. Regarding to kluk kluk sound, currently all has been eliminated.  rclxm9.gif  rclxm9.gif

All the items above are from Express Mobis for RM445 + GST. Labour RM100 for installation, bushing labour 100. Total 200 labour + 445 = 645.
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You source for those parts on your own? with those in the list it just surprise me, so cheap only for all items thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(cooljik93 @ Sep 26 2017, 11:46 AM)
yes dude. Since my foreman said workable with the bushes then i will give it a try. Bushes + labor for both side still cost lesser than 1 piece of new lower arm.
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i get quoted 130 for 1 side bushes.. so 260 for both.

550 for both side lower arm + bushes... expensive or still considerable cheap? sweat.gif


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You source for those parts on your own? with those in the list it just surprise me, so cheap only for all items  thumbup.gif
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Yup, i source it my own. You can refer the post earlier. i got provide contact and shop details. Yea i am surprised too. Its good to be cheap, my wallet would be happier. haha

QUOTE(craxors @ Sep 26 2017, 12:00 PM)
i get quoted 130 for 1 side bushes.. so 260 for both.

550 for both side lower arm + bushes... expensive or still considerable cheap?  sweat.gif
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550 both lower includes bushes is cheap. But is it original or oem? If original its cheap. I get quoted for 280-300 per lower arm(ori). Exact ori bushes price should be Big 45 Small 35.
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QUOTE(cooljik93 @ Sep 26 2017, 01:17 PM)
550 both lower includes bushes is cheap. But is it original or oem? If original its cheap. I get quoted for 280-300 per lower arm(ori). Exact ori bushes price should be Big 45 Small 35.
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not yet ask ori or oem.... laugh.gif
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not yet ask ori or oem....  laugh.gif
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for that price should be ORI without GST. Hahah. depends on your wallet la. If your wallet is thick, then direct change whole arm. rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(cooljik93 @ Sep 26 2017, 10:16 AM)
As promised, i've changed parts listed as below. A mixture of Ori and OEM depending on the stockist.

- Lower Arm Bushes Big and Small (Ori & Oem)
- Ball Joint (oem)
- Tie Rod (Ori & Oem)
- Rack End (Oem)

Handling improves a lot compare to last time for sure. But still having shaky steering when high speed. Probably balancing and dented wheels. Regarding to kluk kluk sound, currently all has been eliminated.  rclxm9.gif  rclxm9.gif

All the items above are from Express Mobis for RM445 + GST. Labour RM100 for installation, bushing labour 100. Total 200 labour + 445 = 645.
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Extra items changed includes Stabilizer Link Bushes. Most of the parts which can caused the annoying kluk kluk had been changed. Only left absorber mounting. But now everything is fine. I'm happy with it now icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(cooljik93 @ Sep 26 2017, 03:04 PM)
Extra items changed includes Stabilizer Link Bushes. Most of the parts which can caused the annoying kluk kluk had been changed. Only left absorber mounting. But now everything is fine. I'm happy with it now  icon_rolleyes.gif
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really major changes, haha. but great to hear your problem is solved!
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Hi..anyone want to let go of their standard 17in rims cheap2? If can, i need 2 units only cos mine ady bengkok.. sweat.gif PM me ya icon_rolleyes.gif
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Hi..anyone want to let go of their standard 17in rims cheap2? If can, i need 2 units only cos mine ady bengkok.. sweat.gif  PM me ya icon_rolleyes.gif
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try search in mudah... maybe got. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(cooljik93 @ Sep 26 2017, 03:04 PM)
Extra items changed includes Stabilizer Link Bushes. Most of the parts which can caused the annoying kluk kluk had been changed. Only left absorber mounting. But now everything is fine. I'm happy with it now  icon_rolleyes.gif
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Bro can u share where u inspect all these problem??
I have serious sound too aiks
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try search in mudah... maybe got.  laugh.gif
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ady search but mostly sell 4 and sprayed with black color (koup-like rim). i want to retain the stock silver color. i ady got like 3 good ones (including spare ones) if add another 4 can open a rim shop ady laugh.gif

but if terpaksa then what to do sweat.gif
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Bro can u share where u inspect all these problem??
I have serious sound too aiks
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You can go any place to inspect the problems. I check my car in a shop of my friend during servicing. But i decide to change all those necessary parts since things will be worn out after a long run. Currently what's your problem and what parts you had changed?
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QUOTE(cooljik93 @ Sep 28 2017, 10:18 AM)
You can go any place to inspect the problems. I check my car in a shop of my friend during servicing. But i decide to change all those necessary parts since things will be worn out after a long run. Currently what's your problem and what parts you had changed?
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Care to share with us the name and location of your friend's shop?
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Care to share with us the name and location of your friend's shop?
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He is just a normal accessory shop. But started to do services and so on. Google on Pro Sound Equipment around Seri Kembangan area. Need contact can pm tepi. cool2.gif
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Guys,

ive been a forte user close to 8 years now. I noticed my aircond is no longer cold. have you guys ever serviced your aircond before? If i replace the compressor solve the problem?
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Guys,

ive been a forte user close to 8 years now. I noticed my aircond is no longer cold. have you guys ever serviced your aircond before? If i replace the compressor solve the problem?
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Start with basic things first, before going to the final or expensive steps. Aircond Filter, Checking on Aircond gasses and leaking or anything, compressor valve, cooling coil, compressor. There is a long list. Maybe i left out some.
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QUOTE(cooljik93 @ Sep 29 2017, 04:50 PM)
Start with basic things first, before going to the final or expensive steps. Aircond Filter, Checking on Aircond gasses and leaking or anything, compressor valve, cooling coil, compressor. There is a long list. Maybe i left out some.
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any shop to recommend?
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nope dude, hvnt done anything on the aircond yet. so far so good. You might be the white mouse and share to us.
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QUOTE(unclemike @ Sep 29 2017, 10:52 AM)
Guys,

ive been a forte user close to 8 years now. I noticed my aircond is no longer cold. have you guys ever serviced your aircond before? If i replace the compressor solve the problem?
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Like cooljik93 said, there are multiple factors (one or combination of several) which may cause a less than optimal AC performance.
Therefore, it might be best for you to send your vehicle to an AC Specialist (I believe a few workshops have been mentioned several threads prior; you may need to performs a search) for a full check-up/diagnosis in order to identify the root cause.
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Hi, wanna ask for cabin air filter correct arrow direction. Is supposedly up or down?
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Guys can recommend a shop that repair air-conditioned?
Anyone knows how much cooling coil replacement cost?
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Hi, wanna ask for cabin air filter correct arrow direction. Is supposedly up or down?
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Manual doesn't say, so i checked around for you.

The airflow word (if there is) should be facing you, so the arrows should be pointing down.



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Update to my brake light switch and gear shifter drama (1/2);

Car cut power again when driving on highway. My brake light switch was on again because my temporary stopper also hancur. Car thinks I've been stepping on the brakes. Traction control keeps kicking in.

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Sent to Kia SC, diagnostics pulled up error code on brake light switch and also the wheel speed sensor. Reset codes and everything looks ok with a new temporary stopper. RM50 for this.

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They also had a look at the gear shifter linkage and adjusted it for me. This done for free.


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Drama (2/2);

Next day, the temporary stopper dropped off again. So, same problem with traction control. Drove to work in limp mode. Adjusted back the temporary stopper.

When reversing to park, gear stuck at R. After parking, had to tap the gear shifter to enter P. Would not shift anymore. No response from shifter.

Abandoned car at office. Fetched the Kia SC mechanic over to my car next day.

The brake lights came during night because stopper dropped again and drained the battery. After jump starting the car, the mech manually twisted the gearbox into D and drove it back to SC. Did I mention damn heavy rain?

Solution.
Replaced the brake light switch, new stopper and reset codes again.

Opened, reset and reinstalled gear shift linkage. Turns out engine mount is still fine (thank God)

Took 2 days and 4 Kia SC mechanics to do this. Cost? Another RM50 for the brake switch.

Everything is ok again.

This long ass story just FYI. In case someone else also kena.
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Guys can recommend a shop that repair air-conditioned?
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was suspect is absorber prob
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QUOTE(angel of deauth @ Oct 6 2017, 12:23 AM)
Update to my brake light switch and gear shifter drama (1/2);

Car cut power again when driving on highway. My brake light switch was on again because my temporary stopper also hancur. Car thinks I've been stepping on the brakes. Traction control keeps kicking in.

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Sent to Kia SC, diagnostics pulled up error code on brake light switch and also the wheel speed sensor. Reset codes and everything looks ok with a new temporary stopper. RM50 for this.

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They also had a look at the gear shifter linkage and adjusted it for me. This done for free.
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Hi..nice sharing.. tq
May i know which SC u sent your car to? I'm having quite similar problem as yours.. the tcs and abs warning and sometimes the brake/parking indicator keep lighting up. Sending to Kota kemuning SC, they said its bcos of my abs sensor faulty and asking for ~RM600 a side to replace.. I'm deciding on something simple and cheaper option 1st before delving to a much more expensive thing.

btw, this is my 5th year of ownership on the forte.. somehow i think i might be getting a lemon.. sweat.gif so far, the alignment (infamous steering pull left issue) still not yet rectified even tho sent to numerous wshop for alignment.. havent done the camber adjustment yet bcos still looking for a replacement rims (2 of my rims bengkok ady)..
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QUOTE(kord @ Oct 6 2017, 03:15 PM)
Hi..nice sharing.. tq
May i know which SC u sent your car to? I'm having quite similar problem as yours.. the tcs and abs warning and sometimes the brake/parking indicator keep lighting up. Sending to Kota kemuning SC, they said its bcos of my abs sensor faulty and asking for ~RM600 a side to replace.. I'm deciding on something simple and cheaper option 1st before delving to a much more expensive thing.

btw, this is my 5th year of ownership on the forte.. somehow i think i might be getting a lemon.. sweat.gif  so far, the alignment (infamous steering pull left issue) still not yet rectified even tho sent to numerous wshop for alignment.. havent done the camber adjustment yet bcos still looking for a replacement rims (2 of my rims bengkok ady)..
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I understand from one Hyundai mechanic that the stock rims for the Forte is actually very soft, therefore prone to dents. Best if you can find a set of 2nd hand rims or splurge on some new ones.
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QUOTE(pubmut @ Oct 6 2017, 05:06 PM)
I understand from one Hyundai mechanic that the stock rims for the Forte is actually very soft, therefore prone to dents. Best if you can find a set of 2nd hand rims or splurge on some new ones.
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i can attest to this... when i changed my stock rim, there were 4-5 dents on diff part of each rims. Malaysia road sucks
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QUOTE(pubmut @ Oct 6 2017, 05:06 PM)
I understand from one Hyundai mechanic that the stock rims for the Forte is actually very soft, therefore prone to dents. Best if you can find a set of 2nd hand rims or splurge on some new ones.
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Izit ? My stock rim near 8yrs old worrr
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QUOTE(kord @ Oct 6 2017, 03:15 PM)
Hi..nice sharing.. tq
May i know which SC u sent your car to? I'm having quite similar problem as yours.. the tcs and abs warning and sometimes the brake/parking indicator keep lighting up. Sending to Kota kemuning SC, they said its bcos of my abs sensor faulty and asking for ~RM600 a side to replace.. I'm deciding on something simple and cheaper option 1st before delving to a much more expensive thing.

btw, this is my 5th year of ownership on the forte.. somehow i think i might be getting a lemon.. sweat.gif  so far, the alignment (infamous steering pull left issue) still not yet rectified even tho sent to numerous wshop for alignment.. havent done the camber adjustment yet bcos still looking for a replacement rims (2 of my rims bengkok ady)..
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Kia SC Pantai Bharu Klang. Surprisingly, not very busy and with very honest crew. Would recommend to try here first.

I've been lucky with the steering and rims. But they are softer than most.
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QUOTE(pubmut @ Oct 6 2017, 05:06 PM)
I understand from one Hyundai mechanic that the stock rims for the Forte is actually very soft, therefore prone to dents. Best if you can find a set of 2nd hand rims or splurge on some new ones.
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Am looking for stock replacement ones but i see mostly ady painted with black lining..so no longer have that stock feeling.. the price oso not that much different with new ones..contemplating either getting the used ones or new now.. but if new ones of course wont have stock design la.. sweat.gif
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Anyone know where can replace the leather below the automatic gear stick? Tried asking car accessories shop around my area but no luck.
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QUOTE(angel of deauth @ Oct 7 2017, 01:28 AM)
Kia SC Pantai Bharu Klang. Surprisingly, not very busy and with very honest crew. Would recommend to try here first.

I've been lucky with the steering and rims. But they are softer than most.
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Hi thanks for the info.. good thing i know that place very well cos i bought a car once from there..haha..but nvr really thought of sending my car there for service since its quite far from my place and roads are frequently jammed there..haha.. anyway, will give it a try there since uve sent urs and had a good feedback there.. thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(angel of deauth @ Oct 6 2017, 12:23 AM)
Update to my brake light switch and gear shifter drama (1/2);

Car cut power again when driving on highway. My brake light switch was on again because my temporary stopper also hancur. Car thinks I've been stepping on the brakes. Traction control keeps kicking in.

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Sent to Kia SC, diagnostics pulled up error code on brake light switch and also the wheel speed sensor. Reset codes and everything looks ok with a new temporary stopper. RM50 for this.

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They also had a look at the gear shifter linkage and adjusted it for me. This done for free.
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Curious to know; where is the OBD2 port for the Forte?
Your photo shows the SC Tech sitting in your car performing diagnostics. However, I was under the impression that the OBD2 port is located within the engine bay.
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QUOTE(jeremy_yee @ Oct 7 2017, 05:19 PM)
Anyone know where can replace the leather below the automatic gear stick? Tried asking car accessories shop around my area but no luck.
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I plan to replace mine as well.
Would most probably head to my regular Cushion Shop (Kampung Melayu Subang area) to get it done.

You're welcome to send yours there if you're located within the vicinity.
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Seems like side mirror failing is a common issue... my passenger side mirror just failed to move with with non stop turning sound. Just disconnected the cable to stop it moving.

Best solution is to buy from taobao and replace?
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QUOTE(rompers @ Oct 8 2017, 08:06 AM)
Curious to know; where is the OBD2 port for the Forte?
Your photo shows the SC Tech sitting in your car performing diagnostics. However, I was under the impression that the OBD2 port is located within the engine bay.
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The OBD2 port is actually below the traction control button which near the right leg, u can see the green light in the picture and that green light is the OBD2 sensor...
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QUOTE(superhero_123 @ Oct 9 2017, 11:31 AM)
Seems like side mirror failing is a common issue... my passenger side mirror just failed to move with with non stop turning sound. Just disconnected the cable to stop it moving.

Best solution is to buy from taobao and replace?
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the inside gear part can be replace.


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QUOTE(rompers @ Oct 8 2017, 07:06 AM)
Curious to know; where is the OBD2 port for the Forte?
Your photo shows the SC Tech sitting in your car performing diagnostics. However, I was under the impression that the OBD2 port is located within the engine bay.
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Just above your right knee. If you kneel down, you can clearly see the OBD port.
Been in and out the Kia SC for quite some time now so I now know where to find it in a beat.

Check engine light is still plaguing my ride.

Small update:-
- Kia SC re-did a wire-by-pass to Piston one which may be the cable loose to the Ignition Coil
- Changed Fuel Pump Filter at the same time (Car mileage 100k)
- Issue re-surface after 2 months of driving
- Sending it back tomorrow again
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QUOTE(craxors @ Oct 9 2017, 11:45 AM)
the inside gear part can be replace.
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Where to buy except taobao? Any alternative?
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Where to buy except taobao? Any alternative?
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honestly dont know.

a friend do such repair service.. but location in JB.
maybe he also buy from taobao....

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QUOTE(craxors @ Oct 9 2017, 12:22 PM)
honestly dont know.

a friend do such repair service.. but location in JB.
maybe he also buy from taobao....

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Thanks. Guess Will try taobao with my limited Chinese.
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Thanks. Guess Will try taobao with my limited Chinese.
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Alternatives for your side-mirror issue:

1) Autobiz Autosaver - Repair & Replace the auto-flip plastic gear within the side-mirror from RM 99 (call them to ask for more details).
2) Benjamin Tan (MyForte Club member) - Check in MFC's Facebook page for posts by Benjamin Tan on his DIY service for such repairs. If my memory serves me right, he charges RM 120/repair.
3) Also in MyForte Club's Facebook page - Someone is selling aluminum/steel gear to replace the plastic gear. Check the MFC's Facebook page for more details.
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QUOTE(linkin182 @ Oct 9 2017, 12:46 PM)
Just above your right knee. If you kneel down, you can clearly see the OBD port.
Been in and out the Kia SC for quite some time now so I now know where to find it in a beat.

Check engine light is still plaguing my ride.

Small update:-
- Kia SC re-did a wire-by-pass to Piston one which may be the cable loose to the Ignition Coil
- Changed Fuel Pump Filter at the same time (Car mileage 100k)
- Issue re-surface after 2 months of driving
- Sending it back tomorrow again
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Bro, regarding the fuel pump filter, do you know where is the exact location of fuel pump filter? last month i sent my car for service and one item is replace fuel pump filter. I actually suspect SC did not change as i didn't see them remove the rear seat and take out the pump. I did question them and they said they have changed. After i sat in the car, i did not smell any fuel smell (if they open the cap below the rear seat, i believe the fuel smell will come out)....
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QUOTE(alextyw85 @ Oct 10 2017, 11:27 AM)
Bro, regarding the fuel pump filter, do you know where is the exact location of fuel pump filter? last month i sent my car for service and one item is replace fuel pump filter. I actually suspect SC did not change as i didn't see them remove the rear seat and take out the pump. I did question them and they said they have changed. After i sat in the car, i did not smell any fuel smell (if they open the cap below the rear seat, i believe the fuel smell will come out)....
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under back seat. inside that thing.

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QUOTE(rompers @ Oct 9 2017, 06:02 PM)
Alternatives for your side-mirror issue:

1) Autobiz Autosaver - Repair & Replace the auto-flip plastic gear within the side-mirror from RM 99 (call them to ask for more details).
2) Benjamin Tan (MyForte Club member) - Check in MFC's Facebook page for posts by Benjamin Tan on his DIY service for such repairs. If my memory serves me right, he charges RM 120/repair.
3) Also in MyForte Club's Facebook page - Someone is selling aluminum/steel gear to replace the plastic gear. Check the MFC's Facebook page for more details.
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Thanks for the additional info.
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QUOTE(rompers @ Oct 8 2017, 07:06 AM)
Curious to know; where is the OBD2 port for the Forte?
Your photo shows the SC Tech sitting in your car performing diagnostics. However, I was under the impression that the OBD2 port is located within the engine bay.
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IIRC, there is a diagnostics port in the engine bay also. that one has a cover.

the one in the cabin is like what the others say, just above the right knee (or if you are referring to my pic, where the green light object is... that's the OBD2 dongle), you can feel for it actually.
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QUOTE(linkin182 @ Oct 9 2017, 11:46 AM)
Just above your right knee. If you kneel down, you can clearly see the OBD port.
Been in and out the Kia SC for quite some time now so I now know where to find it in a beat.

Check engine light is still plaguing my ride.

Small update:-
- Kia SC re-did a wire-by-pass to Piston one which may be the cable loose to the Ignition Coil
- Changed Fuel Pump Filter at the same time (Car mileage 100k)
- Issue re-surface after 2 months of driving
- Sending it back tomorrow again
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how did it go?
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QUOTE(angel of deauth @ Oct 10 2017, 01:24 PM)
how did it go?
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Dunno yet. Just sent it in today @ KIA Glenmarie.
The funny thing is, everything drives OK! jeeez confused.gif confused.gif

So far, recap:-
1) Ignition Coil @ Piston 1
2) New set of spark plugs x4
3) New Pump Filter
4) Wire By Pass from ECU to Piston 1

They most likely will suggest an ECU Swap next (based on last discussion with foreman).

This post has been edited by linkin182: Oct 10 2017, 02:18 PM
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QUOTE(alextyw85 @ Oct 10 2017, 11:27 AM)
Bro, regarding the fuel pump filter, do you know where is the exact location of fuel pump filter? last month i sent my car for service and one item is replace fuel pump filter. I actually suspect SC did not change as i didn't see them remove the rear seat and take out the pump. I did question them and they said they have changed. After i sat in the car, i did not smell any fuel smell (if they open the cap below the rear seat, i believe the fuel smell will come out)....
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Craxorz replied smile.gif Its there yup.
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QUOTE(linkin182 @ Oct 10 2017, 03:16 PM)
Dunno yet. Just sent it in today @ KIA Glenmarie.
The funny thing is, everything drives OK! jeeez  confused.gif  confused.gif

So far, recap:-
1) Ignition Coil @ Piston 1
2) New set of spark plugs x4
3) New Pump Filter
4) Wire By Pass from ECU to Piston 1

They most likely will suggest an ECU Swap next (based on last discussion with foreman).
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It sound like the foreman in KIA Glenmarie branch is more knowledgeable and helpful.... KIA PJ Red Cube is suck, this one don't know, that one don't know...
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QUOTE(alextyw85 @ Oct 11 2017, 11:36 AM)
It sound like the foreman in KIA Glenmarie branch is more knowledgeable and helpful....
KIA PJ Red Cube is suck, this one don't know, that one don't know...
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I think so, they're more often helpful but this issue takes the cake.
I'm not sure if they know what the issue is albeit mostly trial and error.

Some of the guys there have been with KIA SC for quite some time (5-7 years).
Not sure if that equates to being knowledgeable biggrin.gif.

Still no update yet from them. Probably still checking the car.
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QUOTE(linkin182 @ Oct 11 2017, 12:35 PM)
I think so, they're more often helpful but this issue takes the cake.
I'm not sure if they know what the issue is albeit mostly trial and error.

Some of the guys there have been with KIA SC for quite some time (5-7 years).
Not sure if that equates to being knowledgeable biggrin.gif.

Still no update yet from them. Probably still checking the car.
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i hope they have some news about your car. i'm also quite kan cheong about your story.
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Any opinion advice?
Please help me
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chk the service records.
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Thanks for the additional info.
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This morning my car had the same problem with yours. Kindly share the solution you went for? rclxms.gif
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Guys, need advise here for engine oil.
a) use bck petronas 5w30 or 5w40
b) Castrol edge 5w40
C) liqui moly
d) other brands.
I'm using Fuchs supersyn 5w40 (German) and I realise the oil turns dark very fast, is it a sign engine deposit very dirty? Last oil dip check was on 5k km.
Pls comment. Thank you.
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QUOTE(nelsonooi7 @ Oct 25 2017, 03:03 PM)
Guys, need advise here for engine oil.
a) use bck petronas 5w30 or 5w40
b) Castrol edge 5w40
C) liqui moly
d) other brands.
I'm using Fuchs supersyn 5w40 (German) and I realise the oil turns dark very fast, is it a sign engine deposit very dirty? Last oil dip check was on 5k km.
Pls comment. Thank you.
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Manual says 5w30, but 5w40 should be fine for hotter running. Maybe slight difference in acceleration and fuel consumption.

Don't worry about the oil colour. Here's an excerpt from How Stuff Works:

If you're conscientious about keeping your car in good running order, you probably worry from time to time that your oil has gotten dirty and is causing sludge to build up in your engine. So you pull the dipstick out and check the color of the oil at the tip. Chances are, it's starting to turn dark, no longer the light amber color that you saw on the stick when your oil was fresh. So now it's too dirty to use, right? It's depositing sludge in your engine and needs to be changed.

Wrong. In fact, just the opposite is true. If you're using a detergent engine oil (and most modern engine oils have detergent additives), the oil is working just the way it's supposed to, dispersing the tiny particles that can result in engine sludge and holding them in suspension in the oil itself so that they can't build up. That's why the oil appears darker, but this in no way impedes the oil from performing its normal functions of lubricating and protecting the metal surfaces inside the engine. Of course, the oil is limited in how many of these suspended particles it can contain and will eventually need to be changed when it becomes saturated, but use the oil change interval recommended by your car's manufacturer to decide when to change the oil, not the color of the oil on the stick.

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QUOTE(brian_ink094 @ Oct 23 2017, 11:09 PM)
This morning my car had the same problem with yours. Kindly share the solution you went for? rclxms.gif
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Haven't got it fix. Plan is to fix in Dec when I send it for servicing. Most probably will check with autosaver replacement if it is still RM99.
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Well thanks for the info given. It's very thorough and easy understanding. Have u tried other atf other than the original Kia sp iv? Cos I'm servicing outside and current service workshop do not carry Kia ori sp Iv, only has castrol atf which the guy say can be used as well. Never tried other atf as well so I need advise here. Thanks again
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guys..where is the best place to trade in or sell our Forte.
I thinking of letting go my Forte 2.0 year 2011.
Most shop is taking at RM25k to RM30K.

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QUOTE(colt45 @ Oct 26 2017, 04:24 PM)
guys..where is the best place to trade in or sell our Forte.
I thinking of letting go my Forte 2.0 year 2011.
Most shop is taking at RM25k to RM30K.
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Of coz direk sell to buyer
Thru shop sure lost 7-10k

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QUOTE(nelsonooi7 @ Oct 26 2017, 02:18 AM)
Well thanks for the info given. It's very thorough and easy understanding. Have u tried other atf other than the original Kia sp iv? Cos I'm servicing outside and current service workshop do not carry Kia ori sp Iv, only has castrol atf which the guy say can be used as well. Never tried other atf as well so I need advise here. Thanks again
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I think I'm using Castrol ATF right now. As long as spec same, it should work just the same.
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QUOTE(angel of deauth @ Oct 26 2017, 09:08 PM)
I think I'm using Castrol ATF right now. As long as spec same, it should work just the same.
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Mind showing me the correct castrol atf? Thank you.
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Mind showing me the correct castrol atf? Thank you.
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Changed at Autosavers in my last service. I remember seeing the Castrol bottle. But the bill doesn't specify.

The last time I changed before that was at Kia SC Puchong, they used this brand called Tutela for 6Speed
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QUOTE(nelsonooi7 @ Oct 26 2017, 02:18 AM)
Well thanks for the info given. It's very thorough and easy understanding. Have u tried other atf other than the original Kia sp iv? Cos I'm servicing outside and current service workshop do not carry Kia ori sp Iv, only has castrol atf which the guy say can be used as well. Never tried other atf as well so I need advise here. Thanks again
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Go petronas stesen
Search for petronas sp4
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Hello guys

Just recently noticed splat of oil in parking garage and took my 2012 forte for a checkup.apparently there's a leak in camshaft oil seal and leaking rhs drive shaft.

Anyone had similar problems and how much it cost you?
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Hi,

I'm looking at purchasing a used Forte and have a question regarding the Body Kits that (i think) were added mid-way through 2011 and forward. Is it possible to remove the body kit? I personally like the look without and i think it would add a couple of CM of clearance as well.

Thanks for your time and responses.

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QUOTE(T-Rock @ Oct 30 2017, 05:58 PM)
Hi,

I'm looking at purchasing a used Forte and have a question regarding the Body Kits that (i think) were added mid-way through 2011 and forward.  Is it possible to remove the body kit?  I personally like the look without and i think it would add a couple of CM of clearance as well.

Thanks for your time and responses.

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Go petronas stesen
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Changed at Autosavers in my last service. I remember seeing the Castrol bottle. But the bill doesn't specify.

The last time I changed before that was at Kia SC Puchong, they used this brand called Tutela for 6Speed
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Also changed ATF at Autosavers Selayang. They used KIA ATF SP-IV.

KIA SC exclusively uses Petronas lubricants. ATF is that Tutela brand & meets SP-IV specs. Made possible by the purchase of Italian Selenia lubricants back in 2008.

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Haven't got it fix. Plan is to fix in Dec when I send it for servicing. Most probably will check with autosaver replacement if it is still RM99.
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RM99 sounds like a good deal, hope still the same price.
Annoyed by the motor keep running, I stucked a paper in the fold button to set in between ON and OFF. Now no noise.
Don't have time to disconnect the cable. sweat.gif
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RM99 sounds like a good deal, hope still the same price.
Annoyed by the motor keep running, I stucked a paper in the fold button to set in between ON and OFF. Now no noise.
Don't have time to disconnect the cable. sweat.gif
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How to do that? stocked a paper in the button and now become no noise due to power cut?
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I literally just cut the cable to stop the motor from running.
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How to do that? stocked a paper in the button and now become no noise due to power cut?
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Basically I put a piece of paper in the gap around the button. I think it cut the power. Its good for this moment, when got no time to the workshop or fix it our-self.
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guys..where is the best place to trade in or sell our Forte.
I thinking of letting go my Forte 2.0 year 2011.
Most shop is taking at RM25k to RM30K.
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Hi, wanna ask, how deep is the water till only considered as flood for our forte? The other day I pass thru a place with deepness almost half of my Tyre (almost 500m). The radiator fan also produces some sound making me to switch it off. But after passing thru the flood area, ac switch on and function as usual. The past two days still driving the car with no problem occurring. My question is do I need to send bck SC for check up? Pls enlighten me. Thanks all!
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if like that my 1.6 they probably take RM15K  confused.gif
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QUOTE(nelsonooi7 @ Nov 8 2017, 04:58 PM)
Hi, wanna ask, how deep is the water till only considered as flood for our forte? The other day I pass thru a place with deepness almost half of my Tyre (almost 500m). The radiator fan also produces some sound making me to switch it off. But after passing thru the flood area, ac switch on and function as usual. The past two days still driving the car with no problem occurring.  My question is do I need to send bck SC for check up? Pls enlighten me. Thanks all!
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I don't know if that is considered as flooded car. You were in motion the entire time.

Maybe a cursory check under your carpets to see if it's damp or wet, if there's mud or dirt under the wheel wells, in the suspension area, under the car. Or stuff stuck at the condenser/radiator area.



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So low? 1.6 are being resold around 35k leh.

Even my 2008 saga blm I sold off to dealer at almost 11k this year.
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QUOTE(nelsonooi7 @ Nov 8 2017, 05:58 PM)
Hi, wanna ask, how deep is the water till only considered as flood for our forte? The other day I pass thru a place with deepness almost half of my Tyre (almost 500m). The radiator fan also produces some sound making me to switch it off. But after passing thru the flood area, ac switch on and function as usual. The past two days still driving the car with no problem occurring.  My question is do I need to send bck SC for check up? Pls enlighten me. Thanks all!
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I think the fan is much higher than the half of the tyre... if the radiator fan kena the water, ur half of the engine is also kena water.... if just half of the tyre kena water, i think is fine but do check whether any ABS light indicator appear on ur meter...
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I am looking to buy 1.6 Forte.

Preferably:
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Anyone who are interested can PM me.
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Hi, when to SC Kia Butterworth for a flood checkup. Everything is fine except them mentioning my keyless board might be gone soon. Doesn't know what tat meant cos I'm still using my keyless now. Cost of replacement quoted was 1.8k exclude gst and labour. Gulp! Hopefully nothing goes wrong.
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QUOTE(nelsonooi7 @ Nov 9 2017, 02:45 PM)
Hi, when to SC Kia Butterworth for a flood checkup. Everything is fine except them mentioning my keyless board might be gone soon. Doesn't know what tat meant cos I'm still using my keyless now. Cost of replacement quoted was 1.8k exclude gst and labour. Gulp!  Hopefully nothing goes wrong.
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You're a PG kia? How is everything there for you? Such a terrible flood and disaster. Hope you and your family are safe.

I'm not sure what to tell you about your keyless board, but if it does go, what happens? Can you still slot your key into the center console to drive the car?
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if like that my 1.6 they probably take RM15K  :confused:
what u upgraded to?  :thumbsup:
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Some updates guys..sold my car at rm28k to a second hand dealer. But the car dealer said bank loan for my car can go up to rm38k. What to do, as I am relocating to oversea next month.

Forte is really a good car. Miss my Forte
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QUOTE(colt45 @ Nov 9 2017, 09:33 PM)
Some updates guys..sold my car at rm28k to a second hand dealer. But the car dealer said bank loan for my car can go up to rm38k. What to do, as I am relocating to oversea next month.

Forte is really a good car. Miss my Forte
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That's why when used car wanna buy forte they cheat seller say korea car no value but they sell at higher price
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Some updates guys..sold my car at rm28k to a second hand dealer. But the car dealer said bank loan for my car can go up to rm38k. What to do, as I am relocating to oversea next month.

Forte is really a good car. Miss my Forte
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I miss my Forte too... really a good car. One day, I may buy a used Forte just for fun...
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I miss my Forte too... really a good car. One day, I may buy a used Forte just for fun...
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Cerato 2.0... but still miss Forte...haha
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Feel dashboard too near to passenger
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QUOTE(nelsonooi7 @ Nov 9 2017, 03:45 PM)
Hi, when to SC Kia Butterworth for a flood checkup. Everything is fine except them mentioning my keyless board might be gone soon. Doesn't know what tat meant cos I'm still using my keyless now. Cost of replacement quoted was 1.8k exclude gst and labour. Gulp!  Hopefully nothing goes wrong.
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The keyless board in the car or ur keyless remote ??? and do question them how they know the keyless board is going to gone soon.... i doubt their statement as if ur car kena water and the keyless board or sensor in ur car spoilt, u probably won't be able to start the engine. i don't think there is any indicator to show the board is gone soon or not....

by the way, hope everything fine for you in Penang...
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Hi members, thank you for the concern. I was one lucky one as my area was higher area so not much damage except for some roads being flooded and need to detour to the least flooded road. So far now am still using the keyless with no hassle and regarding Alex's point, the SC guy told me he saw the insert key icon comin out during inspection while I never see it for the past few days and even now. So he might made a fast conclusion based on that. Jus hopefully I do not meet this kind of situation haha!
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QUOTE(nelsonooi7 @ Nov 10 2017, 05:47 PM)
Hi members, thank you for the concern. I was one lucky one as my area was higher area so not much damage except for some roads being flooded and need to detour to the least flooded road. So far now am still using the keyless with no hassle and regarding Alex's point, the SC guy told me he saw the insert key icon comin out during inspection while I never see it for the past few days and even now. So he might made a fast conclusion based on that. Jus hopefully I do not meet this kind of situation haha!
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If the 'Insert Key Icon' shows up often, stand-by with a replacement CR2032 battery cell for your remote key-fob.
If youve recently replaced the remote battery, then it may be some other issue causing the 'Insert Key Icon' warning.
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Hiya. Has anyone purchased tyres through Lazada before? I'm curious as to why these shops have prices way lower than what you ask for at any tyre shop, or this is a lure so that they will squeeze you for more?

TIA
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If the 'Insert Key Icon' shows up often, stand-by with a replacement CR2032 battery cell for your remote key-fob.
If youve recently replaced the remote battery, then it may be some other issue causing the 'Insert Key Icon' warning.
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Battery newly changed tested both keys no problem and past few days no such thing happened. If it's not battery then wad other causes may lead to the 'insert key icon'?
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QUOTE(nelsonooi7 @ Nov 11 2017, 05:18 PM)
Battery newly changed tested both keys no problem and past few days no such thing happened. If it's not battery then wad other causes may lead to the 'insert key icon'?
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From my personal experience, I've only encountered two factors leading to such a warning light:

1) Low/Weak remote battery.
2) Electronic Devices/Mobile Phones interfering with the remote key's signal.

If your issue is not related to any of the above, suggest that you get a diagnostic check at the SC.

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Hi, Guys,

I'm just reported in... driving 2013 Forte 1.6SX with 120k km 6 spd.

Recently found my car was jerking when slowing down, it jerk when reaching speed at 20km/hr. It happen quite some time but now become obvious (no jerk when accelerate).

Secondly, when hard accelerate from standstill, a hold back feel occur when reaching 40km/hr.

Anyone encounter before? pls comment.
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Hi, Guys,

I'm just reported in... driving 2013 Forte 1.6SX with 120k km 6 spd.

Recently found my car was jerking when slowing down, it jerk when reaching speed at 20km/hr. It happen quite some time but now become obvious (no jerk when accelerate).

Secondly, when hard accelerate from standstill, a hold back feel occur when reaching 40km/hr.

Anyone encounter before? pls comment.
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Sounds like a gear issue. Jerking when decelerating or when braking?

2nd gear seems suspect.
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asked around few dealers quoted 25K-28K for 2011
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incoming 8yrs... still smooth from 0-180.. thumbup.gif thumbup.gif

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guna sampai rosak.

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incoming 8yrs... still smooth from 0-180..  thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(LeeTF @ Nov 13 2017, 11:07 PM)
Hi, Guys,

I'm just reported in... driving 2013 Forte 1.6SX with 120k km 6 spd.

Recently found my car was jerking when slowing down, it jerk when reaching speed at 20km/hr. It happen quite some time but now become obvious (no jerk when accelerate).

Secondly, when hard accelerate from standstill, a hold back feel occur when reaching 40km/hr.

Anyone encounter before? pls comment.
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Sent to check at workshop? it sounds like gear problem in general
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QUOTE(LeeTF @ Nov 14 2017, 12:07 AM)
Hi, Guys,

I'm just reported in... driving 2013 Forte 1.6SX with 120k km 6 spd.

Recently found my car was jerking when slowing down, it jerk when reaching speed at 20km/hr. It happen quite some time but now become obvious (no jerk when accelerate).

Secondly, when hard accelerate from standstill, a hold back feel occur when reaching 40km/hr.

Anyone encounter before? pls comment.
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I have the same problem when accelerate early in the morning. that is for 2nd gear only and then after that is smooth.... I think is because gear box need to warm up.... if your problem happened all day, then i think is gear box problem... if only happened morning first drive, then i think is ok...
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Hi, does anyone know where I can get this 9 inches android player here in Malaysia?

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Hi, does anyone know where I can get this 9 inches android player here in Malaysia?

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try ask this shop;

Easy Automart Car Accessories
03-7987 3509

been there before. they said current version is android 7. with 2gb ram. smile.gif
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Hi Guy,

Can recommend reliable outside workshop for Kia Forte??
Area in Klang Valley, preferable PJ. Need to change lower arm.

Appreciate for the reply.

Thanks.
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Can recommend reliable outside workshop for Kia Forte??
Area in Klang Valley, preferable PJ. Need to change lower arm.

Appreciate for the reply.

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QUOTE(angel of deauth @ Nov 14 2017, 12:54 AM)
Sounds like a gear issue. Jerking when decelerating or when braking?

2nd gear seems suspect.
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The most worry if gear box issue... cry.gif

decelerating and braking also the same.

I think its happen when gear change from 3rd to 2nd...


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Sent to check at workshop? it sounds like gear problem in general
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Yes, sent back to SC at Old Klg Rd, the foreman test drive and he also suspect is the gear box issue.

ask me to put in some ATF additive (Nano ATF care) to expand the O ring... put in and now observing the changes, but 1 wk past the jerking still the same...
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QUOTE(alextyw85 @ Nov 15 2017, 11:27 AM)
I have the same problem when accelerate early in the morning. that is for 2nd gear only and then after that is smooth.... I think is because gear box need to warm up.... if your problem happened all day, then i think is gear box problem... if only happened morning first drive, then i think is ok...
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I'm a old time driver, normally will warm up engine before drive... and its happen all day... cry.gif
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QUOTE(alextyw85 @ Sep 25 2017, 11:31 AM)
Bro, thanks for your advise. my car is 4 years and 68,000 KM (last batch of forte)
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I encountered the same problem before, the SC also do some cleaning on the throttle body, its just reduce the rattling (charged me ard RM35), that was 2 years ago.

Just share with you, last 2 months my car jerking when moderate accelerating, when i saying jialat in my heart (coz i think it might be the gear box issue), until the engine light turn on, i called to the SC and they said its the ignition coil problem.

Went to SC next day, diagnosed the system shows that the first ignition coil spoilt, changed and everything go back to normal, even the rattle while idling much improved.

So it could be the ignition coil issue for your case.

ard RM250 per ignition coil, diagnose charged RM60... planning to buy OBD II for my own checking.

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How come gbox isu ?
Dun folo chg every 40k km ?
Use cap ayam atf oil ?
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QUOTE(LeeTF @ Nov 15 2017, 11:07 PM)
I encountered the same problem before, the SC also do some cleaning on the throttle body, its just reduce the rattling (charged me ard RM35), that was 2 years ago.

Just share with you, last 2 months my car jerking when moderate accelerating, when i saying jialat in my heart (coz i think it might be the gear box issue), until the engine light turn on, i called to the SC and they said its the ignition coil problem.

Went to SC next day, diagnosed the system shows that the first ignition coil spoilt, changed and everything go back to normal, even the rattle while idling much improved.

So it could be the ignition coil issue for your case.

ard RM250 per ignition coil, diagnose charged RM60... planning to buy OBD II for my own checking.
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QUOTE(epo @ Nov 15 2017, 11:13 PM)
How come gbox isu ?
Dun folo chg every 40k km ?
Use cap ayam atf oil ?
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Follow the maintenance schedule all the while at Kia's SC.

ATF changed every 40k.

use ATF XP4.

Kinda worry ni...
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QUOTE(LeeTF @ Nov 15 2017, 11:29 PM)
Follow the maintenance schedule all the while at Kia's SC.

ATF changed every 40k.

use ATF XP4.

Kinda worry ni...
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Then should be coil cable only
Mine also chg 40k km
Atf sp3 buy at segambut
Always redline gear 2 gear 3
Ok je dah dekat 8thn
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QUOTE(LeeTF @ Nov 16 2017, 12:07 AM)
I encountered the same problem before, the SC also do some cleaning on the throttle body, its just reduce the rattling (charged me ard RM35), that was 2 years ago.

Just share with you, last 2 months my car jerking when moderate accelerating, when i saying jialat in my heart (coz i think it might be the gear box issue), until the engine light turn on, i called to the SC and they said its the ignition coil problem.

Went to SC next day, diagnosed the system shows that the first ignition coil spoilt, changed and everything go back to normal, even the rattle while idling much improved.

So it could be the ignition coil issue for your case.

ard RM250 per ignition coil, diagnose charged RM60... planning to buy OBD II for my own checking.
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for ur case, the ignition coil spoilt not during the warranty period?

I check what is ignition coil in google, it looks like is the converter of voltage from battery to spark plugs.... this thing so easy to spoilt?

"An ignition coil (also called a spark coil) is an induction coil in an automobile's ignition system that transforms the battery's low voltage to the thousands of volts needed to create an electric spark in the spark plugs to ignite the fuel."
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QUOTE(alextyw85 @ Nov 16 2017, 11:53 AM)
for ur case, the ignition coil spoilt not during the warranty period?

I check what is ignition coil in google, it looks like is the converter of voltage from battery to spark plugs.... this thing so easy to spoilt?

"An ignition coil (also called a spark coil) is an induction coil in an automobile's ignition system that transforms the battery's low voltage to the thousands of volts needed to create an electric spark in the spark plugs to ignite the fuel."
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Yes, its not under warranty and i have to pay for it...

Ignition coil - that's the function as you mentioned above.

According to the SC people and i met one of the Forte's owner there, its quite common case for Forte that the ignition coil at no. 1 position need to be changed.

Actually i think its should be long lasting part, maybe its a special case for Forte.
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QUOTE(epo @ Nov 15 2017, 11:31 PM)
Then should be coil cable only
Mine also chg 40k km
Atf sp3 buy at segambut
Always redline gear 2 gear 3
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Hope its not a big issue, the foreman said might be the gearbox valve and it can be repaired, but dont know how much it cost.
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QUOTE(LeeTF @ Nov 17 2017, 03:40 PM)
Yes, its not under warranty and i have to pay for it...

Ignition coil - that's the function as you mentioned above.

According to the SC people and i met one of the Forte's owner there, its quite common case for Forte that the ignition coil at no. 1 position need to be changed.

Actually i think its should be long lasting part, maybe its a special case for Forte.
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4 common things for forte
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Sideirror motor how to repair? Mine is not the gear problem but is cannot flip one side only.
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Sideirror motor how to repair? Mine is not the gear problem but is cannot flip one side only.
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which side? if not gear but motor then have to replace or to live with it already.
if u need used I have passenger side and driver side, i bought new one because lazy to repair.

passenger side all good and intact, some paint chip.
driver side replaced gear before but somehow cant flip again after few weeks. (probably bad installation/loose)

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QUOTE(dvinez @ Nov 21 2017, 09:06 AM)
which side? if not gear but motor then have to replace or to live with it already.
if u need used I have passenger side and driver side, i bought new one because lazy to repair.

passenger side all good and intact, some paint chip.
driver side replaced gear before but somehow cant flip again after few weeks. (probably bad installation/loose)
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how much u bought?
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how much u bought?
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bought online/oversea RM900++ for both with paint
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QUOTE(dvinez @ Nov 21 2017, 10:06 AM)
which side? if not gear but motor then have to replace or to live with it already.
if u need used I have passenger side and driver side, i bought new one because lazy to repair.

passenger side all good and intact, some paint chip.
driver side replaced gear before but somehow cant flip again after few weeks. (probably bad installation/loose)
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My passenger side not flipping probably due to motor failure. U mean u can let go of ur passenger side? Mine is titanium Grey btw.
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My passenger side not flipping probably due to motor failure. U mean u can let go of ur passenger side? Mine is titanium Grey btw.
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same color, but got paint chip biggrin.gif
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4 common things for forte
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- rear wheel bearing (not changed)
- side mirror motor / plastic gear (changed "Warranty")
- ign coil (changed)
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A list of the things that was changed during my ownership.
Btw, had to let the car go as I cannot spend further time investigating on the check engine light.

Compression Tests/Electronics & Wiring are checked OK.

My calculated guess? a loose valve on piston 1 or carbon build up on piston 1.

Anyhow, thank you for everyones time and support who've entertained me in this subforum.

You guys are awesome and continue to be awesome bruce.gif bruce.gif
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same color, but got paint chip  biggrin.gif
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How much is for your motor only? Area?
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QUOTE(LeeTF @ Nov 13 2017, 11:07 PM)
Hi, Guys,

I'm just reported in... driving 2013 Forte 1.6SX with 120k km 6 spd.

Recently found my car was jerking when slowing down, it jerk when reaching speed at 20km/hr. It happen quite some time but now become obvious (no jerk when accelerate).

Secondly, when hard accelerate from standstill, a hold back feel occur when reaching 40km/hr.

Anyone encounter before? pls comment.
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Hi, Guys,

Just to update the status of the car jerk when slowing down, i brought my car to Old Klang Road Kia service ctr again to check, the foreman tested and diagnosed the system, it shows some error code (ABS, ESP etc), he suspected might be the socket connecting to the gear box got problem, he unplug the socket and clean it, its works as my car didn't jerk anymore.

Still observing now as the cleaning done on yesterday only.

Waited whole day at SC due to its Friday, went there morning and the foreman only can do the checking on 2pm.


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QUOTE(epo @ Nov 17 2017, 03:48 PM)
4 common things for forte
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- rear wheel bearing
- side mirror motor / plastic gear
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Add one more:

- broken gear selector cable washer/connector
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Just changed radiator cap & radiator drain plug. Part # for those interested.

Forte 2.0 Year 2011

Radiator Cap #25330-2E000 RM below 30
Radiator Drain Plug #25318-1D100 RM below 20

From VK Auto Parts Trading.
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Anyone can recommend spark plug for Forte 1.6SX?

Should I stick to the original/normal ones or iridium spark plug? Feel any difference besides the price?

Found some links:

Iridium Spark Plugs:
1. Denso Iridium IXUH22i on Lazada @ RM170.10
2. NGK Laser Iridium ILZKR7B-11S on Lazada @ RM129.80 (Cheap, but shipped from China abit scared)

Normal Spark Plugs:
3. Original Kia Forte OEM on Lazada @ RM88.00
4. NGK LZKR6B-10 Spark Plug on Lazada @ RM108.80

Please share, thank you notworthy.gif
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QUOTE(Dainez @ Dec 1 2017, 11:21 AM)
Anyone can recommend spark plug for Forte 1.6SX?

Should I stick to the original/normal ones or iridium spark plug? Feel any difference besides the price?

Found some links:

Iridium Spark Plugs:
1. Denso Iridium IXUH22i on Lazada @ RM170.10
2. NGK Laser Iridium ILZKR7B-11S on Lazada @ RM129.80 (Cheap, but shipped from China abit scared)

Normal Spark Plugs:
3. Original Kia Forte OEM on Lazada @ RM88.00
4. NGK LZKR6B-10 Spark Plug on Lazada @ RM108.80

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A quick search on spark plugs showed that the stock Kia ones are Denso Iridium long life, with one quoting it will last 160K kms or 100K miles. Well, you might want to think it over if you haven't reached that number yet.
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My friend already owns a Kia Forte. I would go for Kia Picanto. Kia’s offering up to RM6k rebates for Picanto right now.
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QUOTE(pubmut @ Dec 3 2017, 08:59 PM)
A quick search on spark plugs showed that the stock Kia ones are Denso Iridium long life, with one quoting it will last 160K kms or 100K miles. Well, you might want to think it over if you haven't reached that number yet.
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Any sos for the original stock Kia spark plug being Iridium long life?

And btw, 100k and 160k is a huge difference of 60k leh, i.e. 6 service runs sweat.gif

Mine is currently at 106k so thining about to change it..
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QUOTE(Dainez @ Dec 5 2017, 12:42 PM)
Any sos for the original stock Kia spark plug being Iridium long life?

And btw, 100k and 160k is a huge difference of 60k leh, i.e. 6 service runs  sweat.gif

Mine is currently at 106k so thining about to change it..
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If you are the lazy type to change parts, i suggest you to get the iridium. As iridium can run for 100k km. While normal plugs can run around 30k km++. Depends on condition la. Actually price will not be a huge difference. As 1 set of iridium is around 160-170 myr. While, ori spark plugs are rm18 per pc. But iridium can run 2-3 times longer.

Simple Calculation.
A) Per set of Original Spark Plug - 18x4 = 72 * 1.06(GST) = RM76.32
B) Per set of Iridium Spark Plug = RM170

Assumptions.
- Set A runs 35k KM per set. 35x3 = 105k KM equivalent to RM76.32 x 3 = RM228.96
- Set B runs 100k KM per set. 100k KM equivalent to RM170.

Dont forget, the above have to include labor charge. Each labor should be around 20 bucks. biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(cooljik93 @ Dec 6 2017, 09:33 AM)
If you are the lazy type to change parts, i suggest you to get the iridium. As iridium can run for 100k km. While normal plugs can run around 30k km++. Depends on condition la. Actually price will not be a huge difference. As 1 set of iridium is around 160-170 myr. While, ori spark plugs are rm18 per pc. But iridium can run 2-3 times longer.

Simple Calculation.
A) Per set of Original Spark Plug - 18x4 = 72 * 1.06(GST) = RM76.32
B) Per set of Iridium Spark Plug = RM170

Assumptions.
- Set A runs 35k KM per set. 35x3 = 105k KM equivalent to RM76.32 x 3 = RM228.96
- Set B runs 100k KM per set. 100k KM equivalent to RM170.

Dont forget, the above have to include labor charge. Each labor should be around 20 bucks. biggrin.gif
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Wow, thanks for your insights and those calculations haha!

Will look for the Iridium type then...
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QUOTE(Dainez @ Dec 6 2017, 04:29 PM)
Wow, thanks for your insights and those calculations haha!

Will look for the Iridium type then...
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just a simple walk through. Maybe i can be wrong. haha.
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QUOTE(Dainez @ Dec 5 2017, 12:42 PM)
Any sos for the original stock Kia spark plug being Iridium long life?

And btw, 100k and 160k is a huge difference of 60k leh, i.e. 6 service runs  sweat.gif

Mine is currently at 106k so thining about to change it..
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I think he meant 160k km (which is 100k miles)
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Any sos for the original stock Kia spark plug being Iridium long life?

And btw, 100k and 160k is a huge difference of 60k leh, i.e. 6 service runs  sweat.gif

Mine is currently at 106k so thining about to change it..
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Hey Dainez

To date most sparks are changed at 100 thousand km intervals and I think we should stay at that. I think perhaps what I read on forteforums may not be accurate. Give and take a few thousand of it should be fine.
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QUOTE(pubmut @ Dec 13 2017, 10:30 PM)
Hey Dainez

To date most sparks are changed at 100 thousand km intervals and I think we should stay at that. I think perhaps what I read on forteforums may not be accurate. Give and take a few thousand of it should be fine.
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I can't remember when did I change my spark plug tbh.. Lol so I think time to change soon
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just to share, the side mirror plastic gear can be repair easily, plastic gear can be purchase at taobao for RM40+ include shipping.

For my case, i found a nice guy that drive forte too, he custom make a steel gear and replace the plastic gear of side mirror, cost me RM150 include installation.

before i found the nice guy, i got a quotation from a shop in sg besi, he quote me around RM170 with plastic gear replacement, and that guy is attitude is so bad.

now both my mirror is fixed and can survive for another 3 or 4 years. XD
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QUOTE(claudetan @ Dec 14 2017, 10:52 AM)
just to share, the side mirror plastic gear can be repair easily, plastic gear can be purchase at taobao for RM40+ include shipping.

For my case, i found a nice guy that drive forte too, he custom make a steel gear and replace the plastic gear of side mirror, cost me RM150 include installation.

before i found the nice guy, i got a quotation from a shop in sg besi, he quote me around RM170 with plastic gear replacement, and that guy is attitude is so bad.

now both my mirror is fixed and can survive for another 3 or 4 years. XD
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a friend did change to same plastic type.. tahan few months only. sweat.gif
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Hi guys.

Is there any recommended service center around wangsa maju?
I just bought forte 2.0.
During the test drive, aircond was working and the air is cool.
But yesterday, only normal air coming out, no cool air.
Tried switching auto and manual mode, but still no cool air.
I am thinking to do health check at service center first before sending it to any aircond repair shop.
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QUOTE(Qale @ Dec 17 2017, 08:41 AM)
Hi guys.

Is there any recommended service center around wangsa maju?
I just bought forte 2.0.
During the test drive, aircond was working and the air is cool.
But yesterday, only normal air coming out, no cool air.
Tried switching auto and manual mode, but still no cool air.
I am thinking to do health check at service center first before sending it to any aircond repair shop.
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car no more warranty?

i tot used car pun atleast ada few months warranty from kedai...no? hmm.gif
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Hi..anyone know where to purchase petronas EO (Syn 3000 5w30) other than SC itself? I failed to find any at the mesra shop. My car is ady 5 yrs old and warranty shud be end by now. Now sending to kedai bawah pokok ceri to service my car..
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QUOTE(kord @ Dec 19 2017, 10:51 AM)
Hi..anyone know where to purchase petronas EO (Syn 3000 5w30) other than SC itself? I failed to find any at the mesra shop. My car is ady 5 yrs old and warranty shud be end by now. Now sending to kedai bawah pokok ceri to service my car..
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is there any reasons to use Petronas EO? Its expensive in my thoughts. You can search through lazada for engine oils or tesco/giant for discount sometimes. Use any fully syn from big brands will do.
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QUOTE(kord @ Dec 19 2017, 10:51 AM)
Hi..anyone know where to purchase petronas EO (Syn 3000 5w30) other than SC itself? I failed to find any at the mesra shop. My car is ady 5 yrs old and warranty shud be end by now. Now sending to kedai bawah pokok ceri to service my car..
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stesen minyak petronas should have... hmm.gif
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is there any reasons to use Petronas EO? Its expensive in my thoughts. You can search through lazada for engine oils or tesco/giant for discount sometimes. Use any fully syn from big brands will do.
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Any suggestions on other EO for forte? I nvr tried other brands yet.. Just thought that kia exclusively dealt with petronas for specially developed EO (5w30) for forte, guessing that shud give the best performance which suits the car.. smile.gif

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stesen minyak petronas should have...  hmm.gif
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Tak de.. ady search there but mostly got 5w40 or 5w30 semi synth ones.. sweat.gif

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Tak de.. ady search there but mostly got 5w40 or 5w30 semi synth ones..  sweat.gif
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lazada je lah... sad.gif
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lazada je lah...  sad.gif
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spot on..haha..
finally found in lazada.. quite cheap biggrin.gif
altho in single 1L bottle.. but got offer of 4x1L bottle for RM138 with delivery after discount.
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QUOTE(kord @ Dec 19 2017, 12:22 PM)
Any suggestions on other EO for forte? I nvr tried other brands yet.. Just thought that kia exclusively dealt with petronas for specially developed EO (5w30) for forte, guessing that shud give the best performance which suits the car..  smile.gif
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hmmm, actually its not specially develop for forte lol. anyhow, for petronas syntium 3000 with that price, actually its nothing to shout out. For me, you can switch to cheaper alternatives. Not harm your pocket ma. 100++ you can get fully syn from mobil1, shell and alot more. changing the EO within the period without over extending is the key point. I've ever use syntium 3000 too. but nothing special for me. so hop to another cheaper alternative. biggrin.gif
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Guys, anyone went to autosaver to change absorber ? saw their ad advertised that they r selling OEM absorber at 699 .. and the picture showing mando..

mind to share how's the quality and experience with them so far ?

I'm experience car wander when i drive over 100 mpkh..and looking to find the root cause also...did a bit of readings and some pointing to the culprit such as rear wheel hub, bearing, etc..
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QUOTE(cooljik93 @ Dec 20 2017, 09:19 AM)
hmmm, actually its not specially develop for forte lol. anyhow, for petronas syntium 3000 with that price, actually its nothing to shout out. For me, you can switch to cheaper alternatives. Not harm your pocket ma. 100++ you can get fully syn from mobil1, shell and alot more. changing the EO within the period without over extending is the key point. I've ever use syntium 3000 too. but nothing special for me. so hop to another cheaper alternative.  biggrin.gif
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biggrin.gif oo i see.. cos i saw the naza/kia logo on the EO bottle before.. guessing that could be "specially developed" for naza/kia cars.. haha.. anyway, maybe will try other brands of EO after this since its quite difficult to find the syn 3000 5w30 on local market apart from the sc itself.. i did saw mobil1 on sale at tesco but nvr wanted to try that EO tho.. hows the performance comparing to syntium 3000?
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QUOTE(kord @ Dec 20 2017, 12:06 PM)
biggrin.gif oo i see.. cos i saw the naza/kia logo on the EO bottle before.. guessing that could be "specially developed" for naza/kia cars.. haha.. anyway, maybe will try other brands of EO after this since its quite difficult to find the syn 3000 5w30 on local market apart from the sc itself.. i did saw mobil1 on sale at tesco but nvr wanted to try that EO tho.. hows the performance comparing to syntium 3000?
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For me, more or less the same la. cant really differentiates it. placebo effect applies. haha. I'm more to brand and price wise biases. price reasonable and trust able brands then its good to go. rclxms.gif

Am not saying syntium 3000 is not good. but if it cost 200++ then its not reasonable to me.
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Checking in if your cars with over 120k on the odo, does your engine make a light tapping noise when cold starting and during the first few minutes of driving?
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Checking in if your cars with over 120k on the odo, does your engine make a light tapping noise when cold starting and during the first few minutes of driving?
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how is light tapping noise sound? sweat.gif
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how is light tapping noise sound?  sweat.gif
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Too soft to record on camera. But it sounds like "ffffffttt...." or light fast tapping (suspect lifters) when accelerating from cold start.

It goes away after a while. No difference in driving feeling just that you can hear it.
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4.5 years of forte sx and now i face the following:

1) rat squeaking sound when engine still not warm after engaging D or R gear (actually got this issue on my first year but just ignore until now).
2) jerking while decelerating from 3rd to 2nd gear
3) driver window button spoilt (soft press will also engage to auto pull)

Planning to visit SC this weekend to deal with these issues..
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QUOTE(iamloco @ Dec 28 2017, 11:31 PM)
4.5 years of forte sx and now i face the following:

1) rat squeaking sound when engine still not warm after engaging D or R gear (actually got this issue on my first year but just ignore until now).
2) jerking while decelerating from 3rd to 2nd gear
3) driver window button spoilt (soft press will also engage to auto pull)

Planning to visit SC this weekend to deal with these issues..
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Yeah I am experiencing (2) as well, but on both accelerating and decelerating. Let us know what your SC says biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(X30N @ Dec 29 2017, 10:14 AM)
any forte user changed their headunit to other 2 din player like pioneer, sony, kenwood etc? wanna know if need to change the casing as well?
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usually casing come with the player.
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for Forte 1.6 SX, CVT fluid recommended change interval is at every 40k km
can suggest what brand of CVT transmissions oil to be used? smile.gif
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for Forte 1.6 SX, CVT fluid recommended change interval is at every 40k km
can suggest what brand of CVT transmissions oil to be used? smile.gif
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4 spd or 6 spd ?
mine 4 spd, buy at segambut rm65 only 4 ltr

and since when forte use cvt ?

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hi guys, my side mirror (right side) folding mirror motor spoilt - it kept making sound earlier, i tried to find the fuse to unplug (didnt try all) but couldnt find it. went to accesory shop luckily the guy just open the housing inside the car (the triangle shape one) and disconnect the socket..works but problem is i cannot electronically adjust my mirror to see the cars and side signal not working...

anyone know which fuse to unplug in the car and also how much cost to change the motor?
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QUOTE(CyberKewl @ Jan 3 2018, 08:20 PM)
hi guys, my side mirror (right side) folding mirror motor spoilt - it kept making sound earlier, i tried to find the fuse to unplug (didnt try all) but couldnt find it. went to accesory shop luckily the guy just open the housing inside the car (the triangle shape one) and disconnect the socket..works but problem is i cannot electronically adjust my mirror to see the cars and side signal not working...

anyone know which fuse to unplug in the car and also how much cost to change the motor?
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QUOTE(claudetan @ Dec 14 2017, 10:52 AM)
just to share, the side mirror plastic gear can be repair easily, plastic gear can be purchase at taobao for RM40+ include shipping.

For my case, i found a nice guy that drive forte too, he custom make a steel gear and replace the plastic gear of side mirror, cost me RM150 include installation.

before i found the nice guy, i got a quotation from a shop in sg besi, he quote me around RM170 with plastic gear replacement, and that guy is attitude is so bad.

now both my mirror is fixed and can survive for another 3 or 4 years. XD
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thanks..just searched around, seems like people suggest autosaver, will give them a call see how much they charge to fix it..do u have any contacts that can help to fix it?
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guys,

long time no see! still with your forte? well, i am still with my 2010 2.0 4 speed forte.
still loving it....
btw, anyone had low idle rpm now?
i am experiencing rpm around 650-710rpm with aircond on while car idle.
it causing my aircond didnt kick on for the compressor thus cause the aircond not cold during idling...

May I know your idle engine rpm ? for 2.0
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QUOTE(bomberman @ Jan 4 2018, 08:25 AM)
guys,

long time no see! still with your forte? well, i am still with my 2010 2.0 4 speed forte.
still loving it....
btw, anyone had low idle rpm now?
i am experiencing rpm around 650-710rpm with aircond on while car idle.
it causing my aircond didnt kick on for the compressor thus cause the aircond not cold during idling...

May I know your idle engine rpm ? for 2.0
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my rpm still same like 8 yrs ago
ekon yet to servis, only chg compr oil
same cold no isu
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my rpm still same like 8 yrs ago
ekon yet to servis, only chg compr oil
same cold no isu
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what's your rpm when car idle with aircon on?

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QUOTE(bomberman @ Jan 4 2018, 11:38 AM)
what's your rpm when car idle with aircon on?
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forgot to check, last i use my car is during xmas holiday
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4 spd or 6 spd ?
mine 4 spd, buy at segambut rm65 only 4 ltr

and since when forte use cvt ?
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yup I called SC also said that 1.6 is either 4 speed or 6 speeds... but actually for the later is a CVT with 6 preset speeds.
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QUOTE(cahayamalamku @ Jan 4 2018, 06:46 PM)
yup I called SC also said that 1.6 is either 4 speed or 6 speeds... but actually for the later is a CVT with 6 preset speeds.
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I'm pretty sure it's a regular 6-speed automatic. Definitely not CVT.
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QUOTE(iamloco @ Dec 28 2017, 10:31 PM)
4.5 years of forte sx and now i face the following:

1) rat squeaking sound when engine still not warm after engaging D or R gear (actually got this issue on my first year but just ignore until now).
2) jerking while decelerating from 3rd to 2nd gear
3) driver window button spoilt (soft press will also engage to auto pull)

Planning to visit SC this weekend to deal with these issues..
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Any update on these? I have the same issue for #1 and #2.

As for #1, I complaint to the SC before, they tighten some pulley/belt, it was not so apparent when I took the car but came back again after a while (they say I have to leave the car there to investigate if I want to further check)
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QUOTE(tifosi @ Jan 5 2018, 01:05 AM)
Any update on these? I have the same issue for #1 and #2.

As for #1, I complaint to the SC before, they tighten some pulley/belt, it was not so apparent when I took the car but came back again after a while (they say I have to leave the car there to investigate if I want to further check)
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Does #1 sound like Noisy Lifters (you can find on YouTube) or is it coming from the belts? Have you changed your vbelts and/or tensioner?

#2, have you checked your ignition coil?
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QUOTE(angel of deauth @ Jan 5 2018, 12:26 AM)
I'm pretty sure it's a regular 6-speed automatic. Definitely not CVT.
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well i thought that:
Model1.6 EX1.6 SX2.0 SX
Transmission4 speeds ATCVT with 6 speeds preset6 speeds AT
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QUOTE(cahayamalamku @ Jan 5 2018, 11:39 AM)
well i thought that:
Model1.6 EX1.6 SX2.0 SX
Transmission4 speeds ATCVT with 6 speeds preset6 speeds AT
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Hi, 6speeder uses SP-IV atf. We're not using continuous variable transmission (CVT).
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well i thought that:
Model1.6 EX1.6 SX2.0 SX
Transmission4 speeds ATCVT with 6 speeds preset6 speeds AT
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Best to refer to the owners manual when in doubt. But where did you come across that table?

Remember, don't put CVT oil into a regular auto system ya.
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Even new cerato also not using cvt
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Just wanted to tell you guys I fixed my folding side mirror problem at autosaver - very pleasant experience and Mr Yap is one very cheerful and happy guy - most of the time smiling and he treats his workers good as well, not screaming or scolding them but talk to them with respect.

Cost was RM 159, took less than 1 hour to fix and I asked him if he used alloy or plastic gear, he said plastic - if use alloy gear not good because the inner part doesn't have some sort of teeth or something, so when you fold the mirror - sometimes it cannot fold properly but more importantly, if you force close the mirror from outside, there's a chance since it is alloy, the outer part of the alloy may break other components inside the side mirror.

That's what he said and I think it makes sense to me - so take note for those who want to use alloy one this can be a concern.

Curious to know anyone else's thoughts on this and it happen that this is a new discovery on how to fix the side mirror - about 1 year + ago he said nobody knew how to fix this if ask in the forum, so that's why he did promotion last time - RM 99 to fix it.
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QUOTE(CyberKewl @ Jan 6 2018, 12:48 PM)
Just wanted to tell you guys I fixed my folding side mirror problem at autosaver - very pleasant experience and Mr Yap is one very cheerful and happy guy - most of the time smiling and he treats his workers good as well, not screaming or scolding them but talk to them with respect.

Cost was RM 159, took less than 1 hour to fix and I asked him if he used alloy or plastic gear, he said plastic - if use alloy gear not good because the inner part doesn't have some sort of teeth or something, so when you fold the mirror - sometimes it cannot fold properly but more importantly, if you force close the mirror from outside, there's a chance since it is alloy, the outer part of the alloy may break other components inside the side mirror.

That's what he said and I think it makes sense to me - so take note for those who want to use alloy one this can be a concern.

Curious to know anyone else's thoughts on this and it happen that this is a new discovery on how to fix the side mirror - about 1 year + ago he said nobody knew how to fix this if ask in the forum, so that's why he did promotion last time - RM 99 to fix it.
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Would you mind share which Autosave Branch Mr Yap attached to ?

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QUOTE(angel of deauth @ Jan 5 2018, 12:26 AM)
I'm pretty sure it's a regular 6-speed automatic. Definitely not CVT.
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Yup regular 6-speed tranny for Forte post-2011... same one used in Cerato. Never a whisper of CVT anywhere... in Cerato FL, there is normal, eco and sports mode to suit driving style/traffic.
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Dear Friend

Would you mind share which Autosave Branch Mr Yap attached to ?

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he is in the PJ / taman mayang (ss25) branch smile.gif
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QUOTE(CyberKewl @ Jan 6 2018, 11:48 AM)
Just wanted to tell you guys I fixed my folding side mirror problem at autosaver - very pleasant experience and Mr Yap is one very cheerful and happy guy - most of the time smiling and he treats his workers good as well, not screaming or scolding them but talk to them with respect.

Cost was RM 159, took less than 1 hour to fix and I asked him if he used alloy or plastic gear, he said plastic - if use alloy gear not good because the inner part doesn't have some sort of teeth or something, so when you fold the mirror - sometimes it cannot fold properly but more importantly, if you force close the mirror from outside, there's a chance since it is alloy, the outer part of the alloy may break other components inside the side mirror.

That's what he said and I think it makes sense to me - so take note for those who want to use alloy one this can be a concern.

Curious to know anyone else's thoughts on this and it happen that this is a new discovery on how to fix the side mirror - about 1 year + ago he said nobody knew how to fix this if ask in the forum, so that's why he did promotion last time - RM 99 to fix it.
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Good stuff!

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QUOTE(CyberKewl @ Jan 6 2018, 11:48 AM)
Just wanted to tell you guys I fixed my folding side mirror problem at autosaver - very pleasant experience and Mr Yap is one very cheerful and happy guy - most of the time smiling and he treats his workers good as well, not screaming or scolding them but talk to them with respect.

Cost was RM 159, took less than 1 hour to fix and I asked him if he used alloy or plastic gear, he said plastic - if use alloy gear not good because the inner part doesn't have some sort of teeth or something, so when you fold the mirror - sometimes it cannot fold properly but more importantly, if you force close the mirror from outside, there's a chance since it is alloy, the outer part of the alloy may break other components inside the side mirror.

That's what he said and I think it makes sense to me - so take note for those who want to use alloy one this can be a concern.

Curious to know anyone else's thoughts on this and it happen that this is a new discovery on how to fix the side mirror - about 1 year + ago he said nobody knew how to fix this if ask in the forum, so that's why he did promotion last time - RM 99 to fix it.
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meaning plastic is better.

noted.
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meaning plastic is better.

noted.
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in short yes, although i have read 1 guy mentioned his plastic gear rosak very easily, but not sure what's his usage like...although i'm curious to hear others who are on alloy gear to share their thoughts on whether is what mr yap said is true?
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QUOTE(CyberKewl @ Jan 8 2018, 06:11 AM)
in short yes, although i have read 1 guy mentioned his plastic gear rosak very easily, but not sure what's his usage like...although i'm curious to hear others who are on alloy gear to share their thoughts on whether is what mr yap said is true?
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a friend changed to plastic... i think 2 month++.. rosak again.

he looking for besi this time. laugh.gif

either the plastic material not good... or he get bad sample...
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Guys, Im having issue with my 7 year old 1.6 forte. My engine stalled twice today once yesterday. once during driving and twice during idle. you guys experience this before?
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QUOTE(unclemike @ Jan 8 2018, 09:38 AM)
Guys, Im having issue with my 7 year old 1.6 forte. My engine stalled twice today once yesterday. once during driving and twice during idle. you guys experience this before?
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Never happened to my Forte during 7 years I had it (sold a few months back)... I suspect could be dirty sensor... best to check with workshop.
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QUOTE(nelsonooi7 @ Jan 5 2018, 11:21 AM)
Hi, 6speeder uses SP-IV atf. We're not using continuous variable transmission (CVT).
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QUOTE(angel of deauth @ Jan 6 2018, 12:54 AM)
Best to refer to the owners manual when in doubt. But where did you come across that table?

Remember, don't put CVT oil into a regular auto system ya.
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QUOTE(Bassraptor @ Jan 7 2018, 10:47 AM)
Yup regular 6-speed tranny for Forte post-2011... same one used in Cerato. Never a whisper of CVT anywhere... in Cerato FL, there is normal, eco and sports mode to suit driving style/traffic.
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OK. thanks guys! no wonder the RPM meter fluctuates whenever gear changes since it's not CVT.
anyway I have change to SP-IV ATF on Saturday 20180106 tongue.gif

ServiceCurrent ODO (km)DateService Loc.Notes
80,000km (48 Months)71,57920160730Naza Kia SC - SetapakSA said no need to change ATF yet
90,000km (54 Months)78,10320170121Naza Kia SC - SetapakSA said no need to change ATF yet
100,000km (60 Months)88,04520170909Autosaver - Setapakforgot ATF didn't change at 80,000km huhu
ATF SP-IV92,4xx20180106Autosaver - Setapakchange after about 12,000km sweat.gif last change was 41,059km on 20140913

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QUOTE(unclemike @ Jan 8 2018, 09:38 AM)
Guys, Im having issue with my 7 year old 1.6 forte. My engine stalled twice today once yesterday. once during driving and twice during idle. you guys experience this before?
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my friend's Wira face this issue - stalled while driving/ low RPM. solve after he change the alternator.
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Appreciate any help you guys can give.

My 2011 Forte interior lights doesnt come on with Right Hand door (front & rear).

Works with Left Hand door & when switched to permanent ON.

Been trying to figure out if it's Right Hand door sensor (front & back) or simply the fuse.

Cant figure out which fuse to check (see interior fuse panel & fuse box panel).

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QUOTE(craxors @ Jan 8 2018, 08:10 AM)
a friend changed to plastic... i think 2 month++.. rosak again.

he looking for besi this time.  laugh.gif

either the plastic material not good... or he get bad sample...
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i think i read about ti somewhere but hopefully mine is not that case. i plan not to flip that often (only when really need like at shopping mall etc) to minimize chance of spoiling
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QUOTE(cahayamalamku @ Jan 8 2018, 04:25 PM)
OK. thanks guys! no wonder the RPM meter fluctuates whenever gear changes since it's not CVT.
anyway I have change to SP-IV ATF on Saturday 20180106 tongue.gif

ServiceCurrent ODO (km)DateService Loc.Notes
80,000km (48 Months)71,57920160730Naza Kia SC - SetapakSA said no need to change ATF yet
90,000km (54 Months)78,10320170121Naza Kia SC - SetapakSA said no need to change ATF yet
100,000km (60 Months)88,04520170909Autosaver - Setapakforgot ATF didn't change at 80,000km huhu
ATF SP-IV92,4xx20180106Autosaver - Setapakchange after about 12,000km sweat.gif last change was 41,059km on 20140913
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Bro, wanna know, service in Autosaver is cheaper than service in Naza Kia Service Centre??? Did Autosaver charge you the labor cost? My warranty going to over and plan to service outside but worry the parts are not original from Kia and will impact the engine performance...
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anyone change the lower arm bushes before? what the cost? any shop recommend ?

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