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post Mar 4 2007, 02:32 PM, updated 18y ago

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So guys, finally i'm getting serious about bodybuilding. i'm gona start a journal, i'll record everything i do in the gym here.

Body stats*2007 aug*
Age 19
Height 5 foot 7"
BF 28%
Weight 80kg
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Aims(within the year)
lower down body fat to at least 15-20%
increase body weight to 80kg(bulking)
and hopefully can squat bench and deadlift with 100kg+20kg(bar) by next CNY!

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So my workout will look like this

Workout A
Squats 3x5
Bench press 3x5
deadlift 1x5
Dips 2x8
Back Extension 2x8
Barbell curl 2x8

Workout B
Squats 3x5
Standing MP 3x5
Pendlay rows 3x5
Chin ups 2x8
Sit ups 2x8
Barbell tricept extension 2x8

reasons for the dips, chin ups, back extension, sit ups, skull crushes and barbell curl is for me to build a better core so i can lift more for squats.

So for the pros please drop by and give a few advices and tweaks here and there for better lifting biggrin.gif thx in advance.

PS : gona officially start next monday(tomorrow) thumbup.gif thumbup.gif
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post Mar 4 2007, 03:03 PM

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post Mar 4 2007, 07:14 PM

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Er..

How does a skullcrusher helps you with building your core? And I read somewhere that direct armworks arent suppose to be included if you just started?

Wait. You lifted before, I assume?
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finally, isnt it time you start rippetoes' yet? =D thumbup.gif
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post Mar 4 2007, 07:29 PM

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QUOTE(Syd G @ Mar 4 2007, 07:14 PM)
Er..

How does a skullcrusher helps you with building your core? And I read somewhere that direct armworks arent suppose to be included if you just started?

Wait. You lifted before, I assume?
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of course i lift b4. i wan stronger triceps and biceps.

QUOTE(Joey-kun @ Mar 4 2007, 07:14 PM)
finally, isnt it time you start rippetoes' yet? =D thumbup.gif
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lol i'll catch up with your weight kakak
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QUOTE(jones007 @ Mar 4 2007, 07:29 PM)
of course i lift b4. i wan stronger triceps and biceps.
lol i'll catch up with your weight kakak
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it will take some time. you can try tho. congrats if you do.
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post Mar 4 2007, 07:34 PM

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hope i can really progress. has been doing stupid weight lifting in the past few year..
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QUOTE(jones007 @ Mar 4 2007, 07:34 PM)
hope i can really progress. has been doing stupid weight lifting in the past few year..
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you got weightlifting background will help wan lah...for squats you need hamstrings, for deads you need good back for benches...well since you lift before no probs lah
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post Mar 4 2007, 07:36 PM

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only problem for the moment is pendlay rows. nvr did them b4. lol
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QUOTE(jones007 @ Mar 4 2007, 07:36 PM)
only problem for the moment is pendlay rows. nvr did them b4. lol
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use empty bar, they're gonna be a b****, really
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post Mar 4 2007, 07:41 PM

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only thing i'm afaird is its very hard for me to keep my back paralle to the ground
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QUOTE(jones007 @ Mar 4 2007, 07:41 PM)
only thing i'm afaird is its very hard for me to keep my back paralle to the ground
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just do it. it was hard for me too. but after the 1st time FTW already all the way
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1st time FTW all the way lol. my pendlays are on wednesday. we'll see how i workout on it haha
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post Mar 4 2007, 08:04 PM

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haha..This guy reli can lift la

I have no background and maximum I can lift is around 30kgs..

Oi...jones u sure ur deadlift is correct?If not u going to cause someone injured in future...haha remember that guy u taught that day?


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post Mar 4 2007, 08:05 PM

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remember.. i'm dead confirm with my dead lift is correct, i watched through those dead lifts videos a few thousand times dy. and doing it in front of a mirrow wall, i can see whether i'm right or wrong too. i'm gona post some of my squats, dead lift and pendlay rows vids soon. just incase i go wrong.

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QUOTE(Canopies @ Mar 4 2007, 08:04 PM)
haha..This guy reli can lift la

I have no background and maximum I can lift is around 30kgs..

Oi...jones u sure ur deadlift is correct?If not u going to cause someone injured in future...haha remember that guy u taught that day?
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Haha...Yaya..I also watched many times..not thousands la

But I will forget when at the gym la...swt...


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QUOTE(Canopies @ Mar 4 2007, 08:09 PM)
Haha...Yaya..I also watched many times..not thousands la

But I will forget when at the gym la...swt...
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watch the vids a thousand times and i guaren-damn-tee u remember
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QUOTE(jones007 @ Mar 4 2007, 08:12 PM)
watch the vids a thousand times and i guaren-damn-tee u remember
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even I also cant remember but I use it as a refrence point.
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post Mar 4 2007, 08:16 PM

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well download the video, put it into your phone, watch it right b4 u squat or deadlift in the gym.
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post Mar 4 2007, 08:17 PM

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QUOTE(jones007 @ Mar 4 2007, 08:16 PM)
well download the video, put it into your phone, watch it right b4 u squat or deadlift in the gym.
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that works if you have a video playing phone. cant believe he didint think abt that
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post Mar 4 2007, 08:18 PM

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canopies' phone can play video. how i now whether urs can or not =.=
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QUOTE(jones007 @ Mar 4 2007, 08:18 PM)
canopies' phone can play video. how i now whether urs can or not =.=
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mine cant, but sigh sigh sigh he should have taught of that like sooo much earlier
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post Mar 4 2007, 08:23 PM

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well. now i reminded him. he should do it.
so canopies. download the vid and keep it in your phone
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post Mar 4 2007, 08:24 PM

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well.. in 6 months time.. don't forget to post ur pic of b4 and after..
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yeah gona take b4 pics tomoolo. thx for reminding. gona take pics every month to see the progress. more satisfying haha
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QUOTE(jones007 @ Mar 4 2007, 08:29 PM)
yeah gona take b4 pics tomoolo. thx for reminding. gona take pics every month to see the progress. more satisfying haha
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remember to post here
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post Mar 4 2007, 08:32 PM

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QUOTE(Joey-kun @ Mar 4 2007, 08:31 PM)
remember to post here
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>< gona post all in 1st post of the thread. don dont laugh me when after i post >< cuz now my BF% is 28 @@"
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keke..mine 33.3% nia and i believe it drops edi ...

yaya..never think of it also..download it and put inside my hp...

my hp reli heavy like hell..3250


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QUOTE(jones007 @ Mar 4 2007, 08:32 PM)
>< gona post all in 1st post of the thread. don dont laugh me when after i post >< cuz now my BF% is 28 @@"
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sure boh? yuo look skinny in friendster
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QUOTE(jones007 @ Mar 4 2007, 08:32 PM)
>< gona post all in 1st post of the thread. don dont laugh me when after i post >< cuz now my BF% is 28 @@"
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Sokay. I posted my fat pic for the world to see and nobody laughed. Ok maybe not openly biggrin.gif

QUOTE(Canopies @ Mar 4 2007, 09:16 PM)
keke..mine 33.3% nia and i believe it drops edi ...

yaya..never think of it also..download it and put inside my hp...

my hp reli heavy like hell..3250
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33.3% ? Wah nice number. I think you gotta check ur bf% now. Then you really know whether u lost fat or muscle
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QUOTE(Syd G @ Mar 4 2007, 09:43 PM)
Sokay. I posted my fat pic for the world to see and nobody laughed. Ok maybe not openly biggrin.gif
33.3% ? Wah nice number. I think you gotta check ur bf% now. Then you really know whether u lost fat or muscle
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you're sporting, dunno whether or not these guys are less sporting than a girl XD
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T_T

Thats what im worried about..showing off my face to u all and after that ppl save it and send to ppl around the world...lol..

my imagination is quite geng laugh.gif
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...

cut off ur face, strip ur baju and post a pic biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Canopies @ Mar 4 2007, 10:05 PM)
T_T

Thats what im worried about..showing off my face to u all and after that ppl save it and send to ppl around the world...lol..

my imagination is quite geng laugh.gif
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dont be an idiot. we're not assholes plus who would want your face?
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juz post lah.. no one gonna laugh at you.. If they did, then they are just jealous of your bravery..
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OKOK...will do it soon
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is it ok to eat coffee mate everyday? cuz i cook it with my oats unsure.gif and for today gona workout alone. my friends left me high and dry lol
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05 March(Monday)

8 30 breakfast : 2 hard boil eggs and nasi lemak(grandmother bought it, planned to take oats.)
11 30 lunch : rice with vege and meat(medium portion)
13 00 pre-workout : one plate of oats, one spoon of honey.
17 00 post-workout : half carton of milk(banana flavour)

Workout A
Week 1 day 1 05 March(Monday)

Squats

Warm up
1x5xbar
1x5x95
1x5x115

Real sets
2x5x135
1x4x135(last rep failed)
1x5x115

Bench Press

Warm up
1x5xbar
1x5x65
1x5x95

Real sets
1x3x115(chicken out)
3x5x95

Deadlift

Warm up
1x5x95

Real sets
1x5x115

Mis

Dips
2x5
Back Extension
1x8
1x8x25
Barbell curl
2x8xbar

10 minutes cardio last

PS : all weights in lbs. bar weight(45lbs) included

something wrong iwth my bench press. cant seem to do it nicely. aih. weak core i have. sad.gif

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post Mar 5 2007, 02:09 PM

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no nasi lemak... no nasi lemak, no nasi lemak

repeat at least 1000 times
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QUOTE(jones007 @ Mar 5 2007, 12:54 PM)
is it ok to eat coffee mate everyday? cuz i cook it with my oats unsure.gif and for today gona workout alone. my friends left me high and dry lol
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sub with fresh milk. either full cream or low fat.

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no nasi lemak... no nasi lemak, no nasi lemak

repeat at least 1000 times
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nod.gif nod.gif NO nasi lemak ----------------------------------> dustbin laugh.gif
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QUOTE(victor_hoh @ Mar 5 2007, 02:09 PM)
no nasi lemak... no nasi lemak, no nasi lemak

repeat at least 1000 times
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My bro's doing keto so the other day he ordered Nasi Lemak without nasi.

Mamak's face = priceless biggrin.gif
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my grandma bought lo. eat for the sake of my grandma la =.=" updated my previous post with my workouts
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you dont need core strength to perform bench press.

Most probably you are not used to the exercise, thats all. Your stabilizer muscle is not strong enough, etc... I remember the first time I perform bench press on an empty olympic bar, I could barely balance the bar, and all the while my hands were shaky.
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QUOTE(victor_hoh @ Mar 5 2007, 05:31 PM)
you dont need core strength to perform bench press.

Most probably you are not used to the exercise, thats all. Your stabilizer muscle is not strong enough, etc... I remember the first time I perform bench press on an empty olympic bar, I could barely balance the bar, and all the while my hands were shaky.
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stabilizer muscle=core muscles? no? lol
i did dumbbell bench press b4. i guess i'm not used to the barbell bench press gua
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try to cough

feel a bit of muscle pull? thats ur core muscle
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oo. okay okay. so i have weak stabilizer muscles. biggrin.gif biggrin.gif my dead lifts is still lower than my squats leh. why heh?
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QUOTE(jones007 @ Mar 5 2007, 05:37 PM)
oo. okay okay. so i have weak stabilizer muscles. biggrin.gif biggrin.gif my dead lifts is still lower than my squats leh. why heh?
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thats how it is at first, but that will change with time.
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my nasi lenak uber banyak protein ...

but still damn unhealthy lar

a serving of chicken, beef and omelette... plus the standard nasi lemak

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eh forgot to write my last 10 minutes cardio biggrin.gif biggrin.gif yeah nasi lemak is baaad... but i still love em tongue.gif
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swt....so fast updated ooo


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You bench, deadlift and squat 115?

Something's wrong somewhere, man
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why cannot eat nasi lemak???

Too much calories?
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oil

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QUOTE(Syd G @ Mar 5 2007, 08:25 PM)
You bench, deadlift and squat 115?

Something's wrong somewhere, man
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Where is wrong? haha. does the sequence really matter? i mean.. i can lift equally right? hha
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It just means that you have chicken legs biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Syd G @ Mar 6 2007, 05:33 AM)
It just means that you have chicken legs biggrin.gif
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hey jones, where do ou work out man?
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california fitness in midvalley. mon wed fri. 2-4 pm i lepak at the free weights area. and the squat rack is mine for the taking brows.gif

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my quads hurt like b**** right now. dono whether tomolo can do squat or not. i don't wana skip tomorrow!!!
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he doing full squat ...walao
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okay guys. here i am wiht pictures at the 1st post. check it up. biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif gona take pictures of myself every 3 months to ensure progression.

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QUOTE(Canopies @ Mar 6 2007, 07:27 PM)
he doing full squat ...walao
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todays workout ABSOLUTELY SUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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9 30 one cup of milk and some bread(rushing, late for school lol)
11 30 rice with curry lamb and some veges. simple meal from mamak.
13 00 oats cooked with milk, one spoon of honey and cup of milk.
16 00 500ml of milk, 2 bonanas

Workout B
Week 1 day 2 07 March(Wednesday)

Squats

Warm up
1x5xbar
1x5x95
1x5x115

Real sets
3x5x135
ATG. its a PR.

Standing MP

Warm up
1x5xbar
1x5x65

Real sets
1x5x75(beh tahan.)
2x5x65

Pendlay Rows

don't wana record today's pendlay. absolutely suck. instead of my lower back feeling tired my leg couldn't take it. wtf?

Mis

Chin ups
2x4(body weight)
Declined sit up
1x8(body weight)
1x8x25
Skull Crushes
(didnt do because i'm pissed off)
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Jones007, I think ....

U should lose weight & fat first.... Proper & control diet should be used..
Intense Cardio exercises should be used more often instead of weight training....

After drop to normal weight ( I think 60Kg with ur height), then only consider bulk up la....
Instead of buling up & wan to lose fat at the same time.....

Thats just my opinion!!
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60kg at my height is the BMI calculation thingy. i dont believe in that. i'm not planning to lose weight. i'm planning to reduce my fat percentage. and by doing rippe toe's program i believe i can. reduce weight is not my aim. ppl can be toned and heavy too. because it is muscle weight
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Haha...thats what my problem im facing now leh...I think I should lose off my weight and fat first then only bulk up?
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u lose weight now, then u bulk up(increase weight again) whats the point? just burn all the fats away and thats it. no point going down and up again right?
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QUOTE(jones007 @ Mar 4 2007, 02:32 PM)
So guys, finally i'm getting serious about bodybuilding. i'm gona start a journal, i'll record everything i do in the gym here.

Body stats
Age 19
Height 5 foot 5"
BF 28%
Weight 70kg
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Aims(within the year)
lower down body fat to at least 15-20%
increase body weight to 80kg(bulking)
and hopefully can squat bench and deadlift with 100kg+20kg(bar) by next CNY!

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So my workout will look like this

Workout A
Squats 3x5
Bench press 3x5
deadlift 1x5
Dips 2x8
Back Extension 2x8
Barbell curl 2x8

Workout B
Squats 3x5
Standing MP 3x5
Pendlay rows 3x5
Chin ups 2x8
Sit ups 2x8
Skull crushes 2x8

reasons for the dips, chin ups, back extension, sit ups, skull crushes and barbell curl is for me to build a better core so i can lift more for squats.

So for the pros please drop by and give a few advices and tweaks here and there for better lifting biggrin.gif thx in advance.

PS : gona officially start next monday(tomorrow) thumbup.gif thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(Canopies @ Mar 7 2007, 08:05 PM)
Eh..nice body...Hv lil breast also...haha brows.gif
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QUOTE(jones007 @ Mar 7 2007, 08:04 PM)
u lose weight now, then u bulk up(increase weight again) whats the point? just burn all the fats away and thats it. no point going down and up again right?
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Oh yeah...but even though i builded muscle ...
my fats still covered it...
then i looks like more fatter ...
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ok. 2 points.
1st point, fat is not easy to burn, it takes time, do rippe toe for 6 month your fat percentage should be lower than 20% dy.
2nd point. with greater muscle mass, u burn more fats, higher metabolism rate, u burn more fats doing cardio compared to lower muscle mass ppl.
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lower than 20%???Thanks for ya info...lol


woah...can I hv a body like Rain before my 19?

hey show me ur ideal body lar...like whose body u wan?

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QUOTE(Canopies @ Mar 7 2007, 08:15 PM)
lower than 20%???Thanks for ya info...lol
woah...can I hv a body like Rain before my 19?

hey show me ur ideal body lar...like whose body u wan?
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Ok i smelled someone is cooking....laugh.gif


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eh, jones cant see ur pic eh?
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spoiler click me....click it lar
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QUOTE(jones007 @ Mar 7 2007, 08:04 PM)
u lose weight now, then u bulk up(increase weight again) whats the point? just burn all the fats away and thats it. no point going down and up again right?
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This is called the "cut & bulk up" process !!
I believe Darklight79 or Pizzaboy is also doing that... (not sure la.. rclxms.gif )

U have to do this in order to have a lean muscle at the right place (eg. abs)....
Thats why a lot of bulky bodybuilder still have some fats on the abs muscle.

I think the best way to burn fat is Cardio exercises, muscle building is weight training...

Therefore, in ur case
Step 1 - Burn fat (Cardio exercises)
Step 2- Weight training (Building muscle after u lost most of ur fat)

Ya, this is just my opinion.
Hope u can ur bodyfat percentage can drop to 20% after 2-3 months. Good luck!! smile.gif
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lolx..tell me about ur weight and muscle mass...haha and how heavy u lift
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QUOTE(Irresistible @ Mar 8 2007, 12:44 PM)
This is called the "cut & bulk up" process !!
I believe Darklight79 or Pizzaboy is also doing that... (not sure la.. rclxms.gif )

U have to do this in order to have a lean muscle at the right place (eg. abs)....
Thats why a lot of bulky bodybuilder still have some fats on the abs muscle.

I think the best way to burn fat is Cardio exercises, muscle building is weight training...

Therefore, in ur case
Step 1 - Burn fat (Cardio exercises)
Step 2-  Weight training (Building muscle after u lost most of ur fat)

Ya, this is just my opinion.
Hope u can ur bodyfat percentage can drop to 20% after 2-3 months. Good luck!! smile.gif
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eh. cardio after weight lifting. i always do 15-30 minutes cardio after my routine
2-3 months maybe susah sikit, but 6 months can gua tongue.gif tongue.gif
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hoi..reply me in msn plzzzz


Added on March 8, 2007, 8:17 pmy cant send u msg....

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replaced skull crushes with Overhead barbell press. easier to perform as i dont need a bench. can do it standing
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.... doh.gif

Skulcrusher is a tricep isolation exercise. Overhead barbell press targets ur deltoid. What on earth is the connection?
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http://www.fitnessvancouver.ca/anatomyasse...ead%20press.htm

works out tricep oso.
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Er.. technically that's not an overhead press.

That's Standing Barbell Tricep Extension.
http://www.exrx.net/WeightExercises/Triceps/BBTriExt.html

Real Overhead Press :
http://www.exrx.net/WeightExercises/Deltoi...ulderPress.html



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QUOTE(Syd G @ Mar 9 2007, 09:54 AM)
Er.. technically that's not an overhead press.

That's Standing Barbell Tricep Extension.
http://www.exrx.net/WeightExercises/Triceps/BBTriExt.html

Real Overhead Press :
http://www.exrx.net/WeightExercises/Deltoi...ulderPress.html
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looks like a military press to me...same one ah?
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There's a reason why people dont do tricep extension standing.

You'll use ur core muscle.

When you go heavier, sometimes ur core cant take it but ur triceps are still fine and dandy. Nama pun isolation so might as well do it teh right way - sitting or lying down.

I used to do standing tricep extension with cables though. Fun!

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Hey JONES!!!

I can't tahan frOM stop laughing!!! biggrin.gif

The smart ass today taught us and give us a lesson about the stupid squats he did!!!

And I went to youtube and Bb.com and saw a thousand times of FULL SQUATS...

LOL...He's dammmm smart ass larrrr...I cant stop laughing whereby He dares to come and say ....Hey,I think u guys did the wrong squat....haha

Thats why I ask him to show us(Did like shit right?) ...LOL,I can't imagine there's ppl whos noober than me!!!

Wakaka...Hey jones go to download the speedbit ...U can watch youtube without any buffering!!!

GO to the software tread and see...I think its there...Now I can watch videos without lagging and pausing...good recommend 2 u...

Haha..still cant stop laughing

he really daring larrr...lolxxxxx ...smart ass???


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nice pair of boobs you have.....
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LOL...every single tread u just type not more than 3sentence....wtf la u
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Workout A
Week 1 day 3 9 March(Friday)

Squats

Warm up
1x5xbar
1x5x95
1x5x115

Real sets
3x5x135

Bench Press

Warm up
1x5xbar
1x5x65

Real sets
3x5x95

Deadlift

Warm up
1x5x95

Real sets
1x5x135

Mis

Dips
2x4
Back Extension
2x8x25
Barbell curl
2x8x45lbs dumbbell

10 minutes cardio last

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cardio is actually not recommended on the same day the workout ends. also, cardio-ing will take away your body's rest time so not exactly that recommended
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cardio = active recovery
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QUOTE(olkooi @ Mar 9 2007, 02:14 PM)
nice pair of boobs you have.....
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QUOTE(Syd G @ Mar 9 2007, 10:58 AM)
I used to do standing tricep extension with cables though. Fun!
how you do that? any picture for further illustration?
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those who don't even dare to show their boobs or even post a picture of them selves keep quite and stop talking about my boobie. u pussies
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QUOTE(olkooi @ Mar 9 2007, 02:14 PM)
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u there spammingposting like a god again
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QUOTE(jones007 @ Mar 11 2007, 02:47 PM)
u there spammingposting like a god again
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too bad i exceeded u. so i'm gods of god laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

me > you
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QUOTE(jones007 @ Mar 11 2007, 02:49 PM)
too bad i exceeded u. so i'm gods of god laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

me > you
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QUOTE(Joey-kun @ Mar 11 2007, 02:50 PM)
no for long noob
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hey jones how can u spam like this ...lolx... with 1 emotion and a . sure gt flood control 1 leh
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QUOTE(Canopies @ Mar 11 2007, 04:12 PM)
hey jones how can u spam like this ...lolx... with 1 emotion and a .  sure gt flood control 1 leh
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off to gym! gona try PR today's squat!! 145 LBS HERE I COME!!!!!!
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Workout B
Week 2 day 1 12 March(Monday)

Squats

Warm up
1x5xbar
1x5x95
1x5x115

Real sets
3x5x145

Standing MP

Warm up
1x5xbar
1x5x65

Real sets
2x5x75
1x5x65

Pendlay Rows

Warm up
1x5xbar
1x5x65

Real sets
3x5x85

Mis

Chin ups
2x5
Declined sit up
2x8x25

Notes :
Forgot to do skull crushes sweat.gif reach home only remember..

PR for squats, even tho its ATG squat, but my knees are over my toes, canopies recorded for me. next session of squat gona fix my form to perfect.

chin ups are progressing, military press are progressing too. at least a 2x5x75. gona try 3x5x75 next session flex.gif
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skull crushers. spell it wrongly and it will literally crush ur skulls tongue.gif

it's ok if the knees poke out a bit as long as ur posture is correct. some squatters put baby plates @ their heels for support.

unassisted chins? NICE biggrin.gif
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i cant do assisted chins up la biggrin.gif any id you got the body fat measurement thingy right?
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You cant do assisted chin ups?

And ya I have the body fat measurement thingy. Why?
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QUOTE(Syd G @ Mar 12 2007, 07:44 PM)
You cant do assisted chin ups?

And ya I have the body fat measurement thingy. Why?
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assisted chin ups makes me look like a ***** tongue.gif
i wana measure my body fat biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

and also.. u r spamming like a god rclxub.gif
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Spam = useless posts wink.gif

I'm just catching up after not being online for a while.

I thought u measured ur bf dy when signing up for CF?
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joey moey poey says the machine is not accurate. he says my body doesn't look like 28% BF. more or less he didnt mention ><"
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It's a Tanita right? Mine is a Tanita also. Caliper also not accurate since it will give u different readings @ different area of the body. The best way to determine your bf accurately is through an autopsy tongue.gif

Anywhoo dont sweat on it too much. If your pants fit better, rejoice.

IMHO your body does look like a 28%.
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oh no i'm 28% BF!!!!! AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!! i wana go down to 15% biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif
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Are you bulking or cutting?
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er.. come to think of it dont really wana bulk dy, wana build some mass, strenght and cut a little. too much fats sad.gif
but i'm still eating like a bull these days. laugh.gif

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Cut a little? Include a little cardio. Run run run.

Pizzaboy runs. You should too wink.gif
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i run after every workout, but i think cycling suits me better, i couldn't even last 10 mintues running, so i decided to cycle today and i cycled 30 minutes rclxms.gif
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Got RPM classes right? Join one and sweat your heart out wink.gif
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apa RPM classes? nvr attend any class in cali F for the moment
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Indoor cycling class. Check out www.lesmills.com and click on RPM
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oh that one. certain time only got le. not all the time. at night only got sometimes rclxub.gif traffic jam le
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lolx...nice pics u hv...btw how to get a dark nipple like u have ...sob sob
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QUOTE(shadowjass @ Mar 13 2007, 09:30 PM)
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QUOTE(jones007 @ Mar 14 2007, 01:35 AM)
whats the damn problem with dark nipple??!!!!! u wana see my balls? they are darker
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I wonder if I could press charges for sexual harassment tongue.gif . Both our comments were referring to this quote :

QUOTE(Canopies @ Mar 13 2007, 08:39 PM)
lolx...nice pics u hv...btw how to get a dark nipple like u have ...sob sob
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he is ghey. just ignore him. everyone wants to slap him already. doh.gif
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Dont you guys train & spend time at the sauna together ?

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QUOTE(Syd G @ Mar 14 2007, 01:47 AM)
Dont you guys train & spend time at the sauna together ?

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QUOTE(Canopies @ Mar 13 2007, 08:39 PM)
lolx...nice pics u hv...btw how to get a dark nipple like u have ...sob sob
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.............omg.

omg. omg.

maybe its time for canopies to start posting here --> http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=407612

and btw jones you do look bigger than me cry.gif
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QUOTE(Joey-kun @ Mar 14 2007, 03:46 AM)
.............omg.

omg. omg.

maybe its time for canopies to start posting here --> http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=407612

and btw jones you do look bigger than me cry.gif
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bigger than u? nooo way. i flexed in the picture.
time for you to post up pics too!!

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lol canopies scared to post in H&F liao...
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LOL , im not interested with ur nipple la...swt ..just joking mah

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Maybe canopies' next question to jones would be how to get a longer banana like his after spending time frolicking in the sauna together.... swt..... be afraid...be very afraid......
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QUOTE(yeeck @ Mar 14 2007, 03:53 PM)
Maybe canopies' next question to jones would be how to get a longer banana like his after spending time frolicking in the sauna together.... swt..... be afraid...be very afraid......
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Maybe canopies' next question to jones would be how to get a longer banana like his after spending time frolicking in the sauna together.... swt..... be afraid...be very afraid......
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better get some nipple concealers and maple leaves before the H&F meetup
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Workout A
Week 2 day 2 14 March(Wednesday)

Squats

Warm up
1x5xbar
1x5x95
1x5x115

Real sets
2x5x145(ATG, knees behind toes)
1x5x135

Bench Press

Warm up
1x5xbar
1x5x65
1x5x85

Real sets
3x5x105

Deadlift

Warm up
1x5x95

Real sets
1x5x145

Mis

Dips
2x8 finally completed
Back Extension
1x8x25
1x8x35
Dumbbell curl
2x6x30

everything in LBS

NOTE:
1. Squats done with ATG, kneels behind toes, was harder than knees infront of toe, so i lower the weights. gonna attempt ATG knees behind toes next session with 145.
2. Deadlifts was pretty easy with the new PR(145_ gonna attempt pr again next DL session but before that i'm gona check out my form.
3. finally can finish my 2x8 dips tongue.gif gona try to do weighted dips after the next session
4. recorded last dumbbell curl session wrongly. so this is the correct one.
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screw both of u. stop being so disgusting. i'm going to puke!! doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif
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LOL nice siggy ...

Haha...k la stop it ...

just kidding only mar

oi jones , actually our cf got 1 pt selling on whey also la...he sells it at 165 per tub ..mayb next time we juz buy from him better...my fren bought from him..
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Workout B
Week 2 day 3 16 March(Friday)

Squats

Warm up
1x5xbar
1x5x95
1x5x115

Real sets
3x5x145(ATG, moderate speed)

Standing MP

Warm up
1x5xbar
1x5x65

Real sets
3x5x75(completed)

Pendlay Rows

Warm up
1x5xbar
1x5x65

Real sets
3x5x95

Mis

Chin ups
2x5
Declined sit up
1x8x25
1x8x35
Triceps extension(2 hand)
2x8x35
Calf raise
2x12x100(kg i think)

Notes:
1. finally done iwth the squats, knees behind toes, hopefully each rep oso. cuz kinda having a hard time doing it.. swt. go try another 1-2 session then try to pr again.
2. finally can finish MP of 3 sets at 75 pounds.
3. PR for pendlay.
4. and also, does anyone knows whether the standing cafl raise smith is in KG or pounds?
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Workout A
Week 3 day 1 19 March(Monday)

Squats

Warm up
1x5xbar
1x5x95
1x5x115

Real sets
3x5x145

Bench Press

Warm up
1x5xbar
1x5x65
1x5x85

Real sets
3x5x105

Deadlift

Warm up
1x5x95

Real sets
1x5x145

Mis

Dips
2x8
Back Extension
2x8x35
Dumbbell curl
2x8x30
Standing calf raise
2x8x120

NOTES
1. Squats.. er.. form is better right now.. gona try after another session.
2. deadlift, correct breathing and correct speed, based on a video of ronnie coleman doing 8 reps of deadlift. bar almost slipped off my hands lol, did with mix grip.
3. benchpress was easy. yeah. gona PR next session!

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QUOTE(jones007 @ Mar 19 2007, 07:07 PM)
Workout A
Week 3 day 1 19 March(Monday)

Squats

Warm up
1x5xbar
1x5x95
1x5x115

Real sets
3x5x145

Bench Press

Warm up
1x5xbar
1x5x65
1x5x85

Real sets
3x5x105

Deadlift

Warm up
1x5x95

Real sets
1x5x145

Mis

Dips
2x8
Back Extension
2x8x35
Dumbbell curl
2x8x30
Standing calf raise
2x8x120

NOTES
1. Squats.. er.. form is better right now.. gona try after another session.
2. deadlift, correct breathing and correct speed, based on a video of ronnie coleman doing 8 reps of deadlift. bar almost slipped off my hands lol, did with mix grip.
3. benchpress was easy. yeah. gona PR next session!
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Quick, stupid question: Are these weights in KG, LBS, or a combination of both? I didn't see any indication of the units you were using in your earlier posts.
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hehe sorry to state. everything in lbs, except calf raise. i still dont know whether the machine is in kgs or lbs
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Bro,

Friday remember to pass me the whey arrr...lolx...

btw,hows ur injury? fine ?
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Workout B
Week 3 day 2 21 March(Wednesday)

SKIPPED due to injury. didnt do my workout b on Week 3 day 3 23 March(Friday) because i dont want to screw up and confuse my workout routine for the month. i planned it out already. so.. yeah i did A.

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Workout A
Week 3 day 3 23 March(Friday)

Squats

Warm up
1x5xbar
1x5x95
1x5x115

Real sets
3x5x145

Bench Press

Warm up
1x5xbar
1x5x65
1x5x85

Real sets
3x5x115 PR!

Deadlift

Warm up
1x5x115

Real sets
1x5x155 PR!

Mis

Dips
2x6
Back Extension
2x8x35
Dumbbell curl
2x8x30

NOTES
1. serious tireness and burning sensation after setting 2 PRs. Took whey as pre and post.
2. was too tired forgot to do standing calf raise doh.gif

Meals
BF : half can of tuna and 2 eggs
lunch : Rice and mee and a egg
pre : oats cooked with milk, took whey with water and a spoon honey
post : whey with milk and 2 bananas.
dinner : gonna go eat now laugh.gif
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LOL...go try whey choc + milk = omg tasty ....lolx
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I book his sis first. You guys don't potong jalan ar! Mine Mine Mine!!!!
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MINE!!!!
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Workout B
Week 4 day 1 26 March(Monday)

Squats

Warm up
1x5xbar
1x5x95
1x5x115

Real sets
2x5x155(really worn out, chicken out, 2nd set last rep was freaking hard)
1x5x145

Standing MP

Warm up
1x5xbar
1x5x65

Real sets
1x5x75(screwed up my MP, used all my strength on squats)
2x5x65

Pendlay Rows

Warm up
1x5xbar
1x5x65

Real sets
3x5x95(not bad, gona pr next session)

Mis

Chin ups
Screwed up lol
Declined sit up
1x8x35
1x8x45(pretty easy, dont know why)
Sitting triceps extension
2x8x50
Standing calf raise
2x8x140

Notes
1. tried PR squats today, failed, next session gona finish all 3 sets
2. nothing much to say today

meals
Breakfast : no breakfast, woke up late
lunch : rice with lots of chicken breast, vege and egg
dinner : similiar to lunch lol
pre workout : oats
postworkout : 2 scoops of whey + water, one spooon of honey
Before bed : gona try to blend a scoop of whey with 2 bananas, ran out of milk, so canot blend with milk sad.gif

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everytime i view ur journal i have to take out a calculator to convert ur pounds to kgs...lol u doing great man...

Declined sit up
1x8x35
1x8x45

with 35-45 kgs or pounds?

what's sitting tricep extension?

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QUOTE(the_registered @ Mar 28 2007, 08:43 AM)
Wait, whose sis you guys are talking about? CUN?
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QUOTE(halglory @ Mar 28 2007, 09:49 AM)
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everytime i view ur journal i have to take out a calculator to convert ur pounds to kgs...lol u doing great man...

Declined sit up
1x8x35
1x8x45

with 35-45 kgs or pounds?

what's sitting tricep extension?
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everything in lbs. 45 lbs plate. except for the standing calf raise. the machine i dono is in lbs or kg. but i think its kg.. cuz i did the sitting calf extension on a smith machine with lbs measurement and 140 lbs is too easy.

sitting triceps extension
http://www.exrx.net/WeightExercises/Tricep...eArmTriExt.html
done with both hands. i have superbly weak triceps

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QUOTE(jones007 @ Mar 28 2007, 12:47 PM)
my sis la = =
everything in lbs. 45 lbs plate. except for the standing calf raise. the machine i dono is in lbs or kg. but i think its kg.. cuz i did the sitting calf extension on a smith machine with lbs measurement and 140 lbs is too easy.

sitting triceps extension
http://www.exrx.net/WeightExercises/Tricep...eArmTriExt.html
done with both hands. i have superbly weak triceps
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i can't do decline situps with more than 5kgs la...they put the situp bench upstairs! had to use med ball instead...woah jones...u hansem devil...
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try putting the plates behind ur head, you will have more "feel", instead of hugging it in front of you.
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QUOTE(victor_hoh @ Mar 28 2007, 04:40 PM)
try putting the plates behind ur head, you will have more "feel", instead of hugging it in front of you.
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QUOTE(victor_hoh @ Mar 28 2007, 04:40 PM)
try putting the plates behind ur head, you will have more "feel", instead of hugging it in front of you.
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putting behind is kinda like using arm's strength ady wo..
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Workout A
Week 4 day 2 28 March(Wednesday)

Squats

Warm up
1x5xbar
1x5x95
1x5x115

Real sets
3x5x155

Bench Press

Warm up
1x5xbar
1x5x65
1x5x85

Real sets
3x5x115

Deadlift

Warm up
1x5x115

Real sets
1x5x165

Mis

Dips
2x5
Back Extension
2x8x45
Dumbbell curl
2x6x35
Calf Raise
2x8x160

Notes
1. IVE GOT TO SAY THIS! WHEY IS HELPING A LOT! PR on deadlift is piece of cake. squats done perfectly at moderate speed! omg. and bench was... i'm gona PR next session tongue.gif
2. forgot to buy my glucose powder at the supermarket just now. = =

Meals
BF - 2 eggs half can of tuna.
lunch- chicken rice with added chicken.
preworkout - took 6 scoops of oats sweat.gif was craving for food.
postworkout - 2 scoops of whey+water. 400ml milk, one tea spoon of honey.
dinner - gona go eat some 6 bucks steak at subang later tongue.gif
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i think so. i use to take 4 scoops of oats only. but then i workout in the evening i take pre workout 2 hours after my big lunch. so.. can really fit in 6 scoops. today i can becuz i took pre at 3 hours after my lunch. looks like 1 hour does makes a big difference eh. gona take lunch earlier next time =D

i realised 155lbs squats is my bodyweight rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif

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i think so. i use to take 4 scoops of oats only. but then i workout in the evening i take pre workout 2 hours after my big lunch. so.. can really fit in 6 scoops. today i can becuz i took pre at 3 hours after my lunch. looks like 1 hour does makes a big difference eh. gona take lunch earlier next time =D

i realised 155lbs squats is my bodyweight rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif
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Workout B
Week 4 day 3 30 March(Friday)

Squats

Warm up
1x5xbar
1x5x95
1x5x115

Real sets
3x5x155

Standing MP

Warm up
1x5xbar
1x5x55

Real sets
2x5x80
1x5x75

Pendlay Rows

Warm up
1x5xbar
1x5x65

Real sets
3x5x105

Mis

Chin ups
2x5
Declined sit up
2x8x45
Triceps Extension(2 hand)
2x8x50
Calf Raise
2x8x160

NOTE
1. Setting 2 PRs a day is not a good idea. i feel like fuking dying.
2. Reduced MP warmup set weight for better lifting on the real set. previously was too close with the real set. now its better.
3. Pendlays was ok. but MP really sucked.

Meals
BF : 2 eggs half can of tuna
L : chicken rice
Pre : 5 scoops of oats+milk
Post : 2 scoops of whey+one tea spoon honey+water, cup of milk
D : gona eat now
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Hey jones ...U using slow oats or instant oats? If u add cold milk ...will the oats become like very hard and tough to swallow?
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i eat quick cook oats. i always cook them.
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cook them with milk...nowonder ...


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Workout A
Week 5 day 1 02 April (Monday)

Squats

Warm Up
1x5xbar
1x5x95
1x5x115

Real Sets
2x5x165
1x5x155

Bench Press

Warm Up
1x5xbar
1x5x65
1x5x85

Real Sets
2x5x125
1x3x125

Deadlift

Warm Up
1x5x115

Real Sets
1x5x175

Accessory

Dips
2x8
Hyperextension
2x8x45
Dumbbell Curl
2x8
Standing Calf Raise
2x8x160

Notes
1. 3 prs a day rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif not accomplished tho smile.gif bench press was crazy *_* nearly fainted on the 3rd rep last set lol.
2. screw Dumbbell curls. dont have anything for it already lol

Meals
BF : egg+tuna
LH : chicken rice with added chicken, didn't finish the rice.
PRE : 6 scoops of oats, tried not cooking it with milk, took me a damn hell of a time to finish it doh.gif
POST: 2scoops of whey+2 spoon of glucose+one spoon of honey+water
DR : Rice, fish, vege.
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QUOTE(jones007 @ Apr 3 2007, 08:40 PM)
PRE : 6 scoops of oats, tried not cooking it with milk, took me a damn hell of a time to finish it doh.gif

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Added on April 5, 2007, 8:26 pmWorkout B
Week 5 day 2 04 April (Wednesday)

Squats

Warm Up
1x5xbar
1x5x95
1x5x115

Real Sets
3x5x165

Standing Military Press

Warm Up
1x5xbar
1x5x55

Real Sets
2x5x80
1x5x75

Pendlay Rows

Warm Up
1x5xbar
1x5x85

Real Sets
3x5x115(bad form. reset next session)

Accessory

Pull Up
2x8 (screwed)
Declined Sit Up
2x8x45
Sitting Triceps Extension
2x8x50
Standing Calf Raise
1x8x160
1x8x180

Notes
1. MP still beh tahan laugh.gif try again next session.
2. pendlay sucked. very bad form. remembered the wrong poundage laugh.gif reset next session
3. pull up screwed. super duper tired. felt like vomitting rclxub.gif

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Workout B
Week 5 day 2 04 April (Wednesday)

Squats

Warm Up
1x5xbar
1x5x95
1x5x115

Real Sets
3x5x165

Standing Military Press

Warm Up
1x5xbar
1x5x55

Real Sets
2x5x80
1x5x75

Pendlay Rows

Warm Up
1x5xbar
1x5x85

Real Sets
3x5x115(bad form. reset next session)

Accessory

Pull Up
2x8 (screwed)
Declined Sit Up
2x8x45
Sitting Triceps Extension
2x8x50
Standing Calf Raise
1x8x160
1x8x180

Notes
1. MP still beh tahan laugh.gif try again next session.
2. pendlay sucked. very bad form. remembered the wrong poundage laugh.gif reset next session
3. pull up screwed. super duper tired. felt like vomitting rclxub.gif
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haha thx jazzebelle. aint gona give up flex.gif rclxms.gif laugh.gif
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jones... all ur weights are already inclusive of the oly bar?
how much are you accounting them for ?
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it is included i think
he wants to squat or deadlift about 200lbs this month, so i assume 165+45 would already equate to past 200lbs.

So it's almost definitely inclluding the bar.
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i am using long oly bars in my gym... but when i squat with the bar alone, it's so light...
i seriously doubt it's 20kg (45lbs).... could they be 13kg, pizza ? it's long...
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easiest way, take a picture of the oly bar.
u say liddis, it's really hard to know which bar ur talkin about
there're a few bars

10lbs bar (short)
25lbs bar
35lbs bar
45lbs oly bar.

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The outer portions of Olympic barbells are also two inches wide. Seven foot Olympic barbells weigh about 20 kg, roughly equivalent to 45 lb.

src: wiki

another simple way, grip a 20kg/45lbs dumbbell with ur left hand and grip the barbell with ur right hand. see whether it is balanced or not
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my oly bar is 45lbs smile.gif i compared it with the fixed 45 barbell.

all my weights are in lbs. including bar. except standing calf raise. which appears to be in kgs if i'm not mistaken.
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haha thx jazzebelle. aint gona give up flex.gif rclxms.gif laugh.gif
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QUOTE(jones007 @ Apr 7 2007, 01:57 PM)
whats so brows.gif about coffee brows.gif brows.gif brows.gif
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good luck once again jones007 rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif
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Workout A
Week 5 day 3 06 April (Friday)

Squats

Warm Up
1x5xbar
1x5x95
1x5x115

Real Sets
3x5x165

Bench Press

Warm Up
1x5xbar
1x5x65
1x5x85

Real Sets
3x5x125

Deadlift

Warm Up
1x5x115

Real Sets
1x5x185

Accessory

Dips
2x8
Hyperextension
2x8x45
Dumbbell Curl
2x8
Standing Calf Raise
2x8

Notes
1. no good sad.gif except bench press everything was too easy. gotta add weight. doing it hardcore vmad.gif laugh.gif
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woah...jones, nice progress...wait for me! imma gonna catch up!
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Workout B
Week 6 day 1 09 April (Monday)

Squats

Warm Up
1x5xbar
1x5x95
1x5x115

Real Sets
2x5x175
1x5x165

Standing Military Press

Warm Up
1x5xbar
1x5x55

Real Sets
2x5x80
1x5x75

Pendlay Rows

Warm Up
1x5xbar
1x5x65

Real Sets
3x5x95

Accessory

Pull Up
2x8
Declined Sit Up
2x8x45
Sitting Triceps Extension
2x8x55
Standing Calf Raise
2x8x180

Notes
1. squats was satifying biggrin.gif
2. MP was like "tonight we dine in hell" still stuck at 2 sets only.
3. Pendlays form is very satisfying. it seems that i deload between every rep my legs can take the weight already rclxms.gif thanks syd for the form lesson flex.gif notworthy.gif
4. was thinking whether i should do 3x3 for 80lbs of MP 1st then later only move on to 3x5 since darkie said its one way to increase poundage too tongue.gif
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QUOTE(jones007 @ Apr 10 2007, 08:36 PM)
Workout B
Week 6  day 1 09 April (Monday)

Squats

Warm Up
1x5xbar
1x5x95
1x5x115

Real Sets
2x5x175
1x5x165

Standing Military Press

Warm Up
1x5xbar
1x5x55

Real Sets
2x5x80
1x5x75

Pendlay Rows

Warm Up
1x5xbar
1x5x65

Real Sets
3x5x95

Accessory

Pull Up
2x8
Declined Sit Up
2x8x45
Sitting Triceps Extension
2x8x55
Standing Calf Raise
2x8x180

Notes
1. squats was satifying biggrin.gif
2. MP was like "tonight we dine in hell" still stuck at 2 sets only.
3. Pendlays form is very satisfying. it seems that i deload between every rep my legs can take the weight already rclxms.gif thanks syd for the form lesson flex.gif notworthy.gif
4. was thinking whether i should do 3x3 for 80lbs of MP 1st then later only move on to 3x5 since darkie said its one way to increase poundage too tongue.gif
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2 sessions/1 week. previously stuck on 75 for 6 sessions/3-4 week doh.gif
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QUOTE(jones007 @ Apr 10 2007, 08:59 PM)
2 sessions/1 week. previously stuck on 75 for 6 sessions/3-4 week doh.gif
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okay. if another session and i'm still stuck i'll try doing 3x3 for the moment. MP is really taxing doh.gif

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Workout A
Week 6 day 2 11 April (Wednesday)

Squats

Warm Up
1x5xbar
1x5x95
1x5x115

Real Sets
3x5x175

Bench Press

Warm Up
1x5xbar
1x5x65
1x5x85

Real Sets
3x5x125

Deadlift

Warm Up
1x5x135

Real Sets
1x5x195

Accessory

Dips
2x8
Hyperextension
2x8x50
Dumbbell Curl
2x8x35
Standing Calf Raise
2x8x180

Notes
1. finally i feel some resistance doing DL. tweaked my form. realised i was wrong in one part after watching Andy Bolton setting the world record video.
2. bench was easy. PR next session.
3. squat was killing me laugh.gif gona do it another session then only PR.
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HUH? then the deadlift u taught me was wrong???
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QUOTE(musclemass @ Apr 12 2007, 09:57 PM)
How does your workout usually last?
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HUH? then the deadlift u taught me was wrong???
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icic , tell me when u go gym do workout and the time also. thx ...I duwan crush the time wif u actually , juz mayb find 1 day I nid u to teach me those lar...really appreciate it seriously


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Workout B
Week 6 day 3 13 April (Friday)

Squats

Warm Up
1x5xbar
1x5x95
1x5x115

Real Sets
3x5x175

Standing Military Press

Warm Up
1x5xbar
1x5x55

Real Sets
3x5x80

Pendlay Rows

Warm Up
1x5xbar
1x5x95

Real Sets
3x5x115

Accessory

Pull Up
2x8
Declined Sit Up
2x8x45
Sitting Triceps Extension
2x8x55
Standing Calf Raise
2x8x180

Notes
1. guess wat guys. i was outside whole day. took macdonalds as pre-workout meal xD
2. squats is easier than i thought!! guess MCD helps laugh.gif
3. finally i finish 3x5 of MP. got damn took me 3 sessions
4. pendlay was f***ing hard. lol my lower back ache so badly after that.

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i guess you must do more then you eat huh...to prevent it become fat doh.gif
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Workout A
Week 7 day 1 16 April (Monday)

Squats

Warm Up
1x5xbar5

1x5x95
1x5x115

Real Sets
2x5x185
1x4x175

Bench Press

Warm Up
1x5xbar
1x5x65
1x5x85

Real Sets
2x5x135
1x3x125

Deadlift

Warm Up
1x5x135

Real Sets
1x5x205

Accessory
SCREW THEM ALL tongue.gif no strength left to do any of them.

Notes
1. setting 3 PR in the same day is indeed insane. but it clashes sometimes laugh.gif
2. seriously squat was scary. fukking hard. after i hit 200lbs squat gona do 5lbs increment. damn susah for today.
3. bench press was superb biggrin.gif no energy left even i decreased the weight. damn satisfied flex.gif
4. Deadlift. lol. 205 lbs! short term goal achieved. wanted to DL 200lbs before birthday and did it thumbup.gif u should ask syd about my face expression laugh.gif worst than giving birth. but then again. damn satisfied biggrin.gif finally i feel some HARDCORENESS in my workout routine.

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Jones , Ur deadlift and Pendlay got deload it and regrip or not???

I think I should deload my DL and Pendlay so that I can lift more actually...
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DL no deload. pendlay deload. even i deload DL the weight just touch a split second and i explode my way up.

like this

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do i hv to lean my back backward when i pull it up ?

well...teach me on friday lar...friday i do workout A ...plus pendlay rows also ..wanna learn correct form
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what u mean lean your back forward? do it like the vid can ady
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no disrespect to ronnie, but he's pullin 800lbs like it's a tonne. hahaha
bising siot. see powerlifters
800lbs macam kacang goreng. maut sial those guys
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he's no powerlifter la. he's a bodybuilding.. and juicer laugh.gif just an example of doing DL la. cuz powerlifter doing one rep only. hard to see how they do it between reps. by the way. i love benedikt magnusson's way to start DL laugh.gif
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Workout B
Week 7 day 2 18 April (Wednesday)

Squats

Warm Up
1x5xbar
1x5x115
1x5x135

Real Sets
2x5x185
1x5x175

Standing Military Press

Warm Up
1x5xbar
1x5x55

Real Sets
3x5x85

Pendlay Rows

Warm Up
1x5xbar
1x5x65

Real Sets
3x5x115

Accessory

Pull Up
2x8
Declined Sit Up
2x8
Sitting Triceps Extension
2x8
Standing Calf Raise
2x8x180

Notes
1. seriously i think i need to ditch declined sit up, hyperextensions, and other direct isolation exercises besides calf raise. its damn hard for me to do those already. since now my poundage are getting relatively more and more, i have no strength left for the others.
2. i screwed up my pre workout meal and i screwed my squats doh.gif doh.gif
3. but even i screwed squats i set s NEW PR FOR MP!! WOOHOO rclxm9.gif
4. did pendlays with a wider grip, index finger grip, then i felt my lats working, lol.
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Beginners do not need that much of direct isolation movement anyway. Your main priority now is overall mass and strength

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Workout A
Week 7 day 3 18 April (Friday)

Squats

Warm Up
1x5xbar
1x5x115
1x5x135

Real Sets
1x5x185
2x3x185

Bench Press

Warm Up
1x5xbar
1x5x65
1x5x85

Real Sets
3x5x135

Deadlift

Warm Up
1x5x135

Real Sets
1x5x215

Accessory

Dips
2x8
Hyperextension
2x8x50
Standing Calf Raise
2x8x180

Notes
1. seems like hitting plataeu already doh.gif so fast omfg. gona try 3x3 next session and increase weight at 3x3 then drop weight again to 5x5. experimenting myself laugh.gif thought that it would work lol
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Workout B
Week 8 day 1 23 April (Monday)

Squats

Warm Up
1x5xbar
1x5x115
1x5x135

Real Sets
3x5x185

Standing Military Press

Warm Up
1x5xbar
1x5x55

Real Sets
3x5x85

Pendlay Rows

Warm Up
1x5xbar
1x5x65

Real Sets
3x5x115

Accessory

Pull Up
2x8
Standing Calf Raise
2x8x180

Notes
1. pr on MP again swt. gona try pr pendlay next session.
2. did 3x3 squat. still hard. gona go low increment next session and see how.
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thanks man. aiming for 300(265 would be happy enough lol) by the end of this year. but hitting plateau at the second month is stupid doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif !!!!!!!! ARRRRGGGGGHHHHH!! PUSH PUSH PUSH
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QUOTE(jones007 @ Apr 25 2007, 12:04 AM)
thanks man. aiming for 300(265 would be happy enough lol) by the end of this year. but hitting plateau at the second month is stupid doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif !!!!!!!! ARRRRGGGGGHHHHH!! PUSH PUSH PUSH
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hey dude how yours progress in finding your maxes for HST?
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QUOTE(jones007 @ Apr 20 2007, 09:26 PM)
yeah. but i wan t3h b!cepth p34k and t3h gunz flex.gif laugh.gif
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musclemass is right. Peak is genetic. It's either you have it or you don't. I don't have peaks period and i can give you a video of me curling 50kgs easily for 5 reps. Size in arms will come with a good strength foundation from compounds. You still will not ascertain if you have a peak unless you reach advanced levels.
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QUOTE(darklight79 @ Apr 25 2007, 09:28 AM)
musclemass is right. Peak is genetic. It's either you have it or you don't. I don't have peaks period and i can give you a video of me curling 50kgs easily for 5 reps. Size in arms will come with a good strength foundation from compounds. You still will not ascertain if you have a peak unless you reach advanced levels.
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QUOTE(darklight79 @ Apr 25 2007, 09:28 AM)
musclemass is right. Peak is genetic. It's either you have it or you don't. I don't have peaks period and i can give you a video of me curling 50kgs easily for 5 reps. Size in arms will come with a good strength foundation from compounds. You still will not ascertain if you have a peak unless you reach advanced levels.
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QUOTE(King83 @ Apr 25 2007, 09:33 AM)
what? arms like that an no peak ??  shocking.gif  shocking.gif
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QUOTE(musclemass @ Apr 25 2007, 05:43 PM)
Yea, you can have huge biceps without peak... Most people with a long biceps insertion will not have peak. I am one of them
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QUOTE(darklight79 @ Apr 25 2007, 05:49 PM)
Dammit. You're like my twin or something.  blink.gif
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QUOTE(musclemass @ Apr 25 2007, 05:51 PM)
Hahaha... My calf is my worst bodypart, what about yours?
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Uhhh.... same???? Wtf?


Added on April 25, 2007, 5:53 pmOk, another question. Do you have no problems getting back thickness but width sometimes is a problem?

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QUOTE(darklight79 @ Apr 25 2007, 05:52 PM)
Uhhh.... same???? Wtf?


Added on April 25, 2007, 5:53 pmOk, another question. Do you have no problems getting back thickness but width sometimes is a problem?
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QUOTE(musclemass @ Apr 25 2007, 05:56 PM)
Oh, mine is the other way round, no problem with width, hard to get thickness.. LOL
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QUOTE(darklight79 @ Apr 25 2007, 05:57 PM)
Ok. I'm not so freaked out already. Lol. If it was the same again it'd be scary.
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QUOTE(musclemass @ Apr 25 2007, 05:58 PM)
Haha... BTW, do you do direct work for your calf?
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we are suppose to do direct calf exercise. no?
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QUOTE(jones007 @ Apr 25 2007, 06:01 PM)
we are suppose to do direct calf exercise. no?
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QUOTE(darklight79 @ Apr 25 2007, 06:00 PM)
Yes. Standing calf raises. Terry recently taught me how to do seated calf raises (improvised way) by layign a weighted barbell on my thighs, setting my toes on a raised block. It's a killer.
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Oh... I used to do that on a smith machine...
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what do u mean by improvised way?
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QUOTE(musclemass @ Apr 25 2007, 06:05 PM)
Oh... I used to do that on a smith machine...
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Anyway dinner time. Later. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(darklight79 @ Apr 25 2007, 06:08 PM)
Never thought of that. One day we should workout together. We could learn a lot from each other i think. Wonder when's the next Health and Fitness meetup.

Anyway dinner time. Later. biggrin.gif
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IMO calf does need some direct work, although leg curl is hitting it to some extent.. I do standing calf raise with something on my ball of sole for some stretch at the bottom! Having said so they are still a b!tch to work on...
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My dad says doing all those jumping with your toes can help it look better. And I must say, he's gotta be right somewhere. Also badminton and football players have a tendency to have pretty impressive looking calves. Drummers too. But only on the right calve, unless he's a double bass player.

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1x5x115

Real Sets
3x5x165

Bench Press

Warm Up
1x5xbar
1x5x65
1x5x85

Real Sets
1x5x145
2x5x135

Deadlift

Warm Up
1x5x135

Real Sets
1x5x220

Accessory

Standing Calf Raise
2x8x180

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1. reset squats cry.gif cry.gif cry.gif cry.gif
2. bench canot do 145 sweat.gif gona do 5 lbs increment from now on
3. PR DL 220.. but.. last rep the weights slipped from my grip doh.gif

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QUOTE(pizzaboy @ Apr 26 2007, 08:54 AM)
My dad says doing all those jumping with your toes can help it look better. And I must say, he's gotta be right somewhere. Also badminton and football players have a tendency to have pretty impressive looking calves. Drummers too. But only on the right calve, unless he's a double bass player.
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Real Sets
3x5x165

Standing Military Press

Warm Up
1x5xbar
1x5x55

Real Sets
2x5x90
1x4x85

Pendlay Rows

Warm Up
1x5xbar
1x5x65

Real Sets
2x5x125
1x5x115

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Warm Up
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Real Sets
3x5x165


Bench Press

Warm Up
1x5xbar
1x5x65
1x5x85

Real Sets
3x5x135

Deadlift

Warm Up
1x5

Real Sets
1x5

Accessory

Dips
2x8
Hyperextension
3x8x45
Dumbbell Curl
2x8x35
Standing Calf Raise
2x8x160

NO MOAR RESTING FOR ME! I HATE RESTING!!!!!!! but i'm giving DL a rest >.> for another 1-2 weeks. my back still aches cry.gif cry.gif
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don't fcuk with your lower back! if you hurt your lower back, you can't squat, deadlift, row, standing press.....

I am still recovering from my lower back pain. Guess I over stretch my lower back muscle. It has been more than 2 weeks, and my pain still has not 100% go away. Initially it really scared the shit out of me, thought I would not be able to do all those compound exercise anymore. Luckily on Monday when I went back to gym after 2 weeks, I am able to squat, although at lower weight, and today I dun feel my lower back pain getting worse
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QUOTE(victor_hoh @ May 9 2007, 01:25 PM)
don't fcuk with your lower back! if you hurt your lower back, you can't squat, deadlift, row, standing press.....

I am still recovering from my lower back pain. Guess I over stretch my lower back muscle. It has been more than 2 weeks, and my pain still has not 100% go away. Initially it really scared the shit out of me, thought I would not be able to do all those compound exercise anymore. Luckily on Monday when I went back to gym after 2 weeks, I am able to squat, although at lower weight, and today I dun feel my lower back pain getting worse
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Real Sets
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Standing Military Press

Warm Up
1x5xbar
1x5x55

Real Sets
3x5x85


Pendlay Rows

Warm Up
1x5xbar
1x5x65

Real Sets
3x5x115

Accessory

Dips
3x8
Declined Sit Up
3x8x35
Dumbbell Curl
2x8x35
Standing Calf Raise
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Real Sets
3x5x175


Bench Press

Warm Up
1x5xbar
1x5x65
1x5x85

Real Sets
3x5x140

Deadlift

Warm Up
1x5x135

Real Sets
1x5x205

Accessory

Chin Up
2x5
Hyperextension
3x8x45
Sitting Triceps Extension
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Standing Calf Raise
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congrats on the benching PR
you're moving real quick aite.

one tip, on certain days when u feel stronger, dun be afraid to throw in an extra 5LBS on the total weight, even after you've PR'ed
there was once, I pr'ed four times for my squats. All thanks to those lil plates.
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yeah starting now on i'll be using 2 1/2 lbs plates per side which means 5lbs incremet. cant do 10 lbs increment already. gonna screw myself up haha. squats still trying hard to pr. sad. was stuck on 185 previously now gonna do it all again. luckily my military presses and bench aint droppping no where. r0xx0r
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my friend's milked his rippetoe's. Curerntly he stands at 5"9, 67Kg. From 60KG.

Bench: 140LBS
Dead: 225LBS
Squat: 195LBS

2 months training. After next week, I'm helpin him with madcow.

U can compare his and yours. Then dcide when u wanna switch.
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untill i serious plateau and canot add weights anymore then i'll chg to madcow or maybe until i reach 225 squats
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Real Sets
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Standing Military Press

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1x5xbar
1x5x65

Real Sets
3x5x90


Pendlay Rows

Warm Up
1x5xbar
1x5x65

Real Sets
2x5x125
1x5x115

Accessory

Dips
2x8x25
Declined Sit Up
3x8x35
Dumbbell Curl
2x8x35
Standing Calf Raise
2x8x180


pendlay form srewed up. my lats were worn out
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which gym u joined eh
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california fitness >.>
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wah
hahaha
i got some friends who go there as well
but a bit far...so i opted for gold's
gold's ok...except the experienced people there...
they belagak gile la...if u dunno, they'll kutuk...even if its not their workout...like they'll say...
"what are u doing with that kind of weight? better dont come"
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"u should have done the isometric exercises first (upstairs of the gym got the benches for situps,side bends etc)...thats why u cant lift...yada yada yada"

haha

well not all...usually the old timers la..but most are helpful...

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QUOTE(gtoforce @ May 17 2007, 12:03 AM)
wah
hahaha
i got some friends who go there as well
but a bit far...so i opted for gold's
gold's ok...except the experienced people there...
they belagak gile la...if u dunno, they'll kutuk...even if its not their workout...like they'll say...
"what are u doing with that kind of weight? better dont come"
or
"u should have done the isometric exercises first (upstairs of the gym got the benches for situps,side bends etc)...thats why u cant lift...yada yada yada"

haha

well not all...usually the old timers la..but most are helpful...
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Great progress jones I see you've hit the 100 kilo barrier!.Good work man...train hard.
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QUOTE(egoeagle @ Jun 3 2007, 12:15 PM)
Great progress jones I see you've hit the 100 kilo barrier!.Good work man...train hard.
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where got 100 kilo barrier. not even near. i mean squat

if u mean DL, 20 lbs to go haha. anyway i'm changing to madcow starting next week. thumbup.gif
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Good good....

I'm changing to HST new few months later...haha
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QUOTE(jones007 @ Jun 3 2007, 03:45 PM)
where got 100 kilo barrier. not even near.  i mean squat

if u mean DL, 20 lbs to go haha. anyway i'm changing to madcow starting next week. thumbup.gif
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100 kilo is 225 lbs le boss. 175 lbs only aint near to anything yet lol
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Owhhhhh..rite....my bad..i tot you were squatting 200's.
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Week 1 day 1
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Squat

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Real sets
1x5x78
1x5x99
1x5x120
1x5x141
1x5x162

Bench

Warm up
2x5xbar

Real sets
1x5x60
1x5x76
1x5x93
1x5x109
1x5x125


Pendlay Row

Warm up
2x5x35(fixed bar)

Real sets
1x5x51
1x5x65
1x5x79
1x5x93
1x5x107

Hypers
2x35

Declined Sit up
2x35

Notes
1. After pendlay lower back was fatigued, 1st time doing 5 sets.
2. then on the hypers, dropped weight from 45 to 35, after 2 sets lower back aching.
3. did declined sit up, by set 2, tried to chg to 25 plate, lower back says no. too bad.
4. lmao
5. conclusion, good shit, i sweat like mad, after 2 weeks of rest, i felt great after doing madcow. 100kg SQUAT HERE I COME!!!!
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Lolx, I guess ur title should change from rippetoe to madcow?
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Poundages looking good mate! Keep 'em coming.

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week 1 day 3
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Squat

Warm up
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real sets
1x5x78
1x5x99
1x5x120
1x5x141
1x3x166
1x8x120

Bench

warm up
2x5xbar

real sets
1x5x60
1x5x76
1x5x93
1x5x109
1x3x128
1x8x93

Pendlay

warm up
2x5x35

real sets
1x5x51
1x5x65
1x5x79
1x5x93
1x3x109
1x8x79

accessory

dips
1x8xbw
2x8x25

Bicep curl
3xbarx8

Skull C.
3x45x8

Notes
1. damn its taxing doh.gif
2. worked out with darklighte at his gym today. lol gave me a few tips. useful tips of course. damn nice as well.
3. screwed up a little pendlay poundages at the few warm up, but nvm, just going on lol
4. dono the exact weights for tricep man. simply put only lol around there la
5. edited

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how is madcow treating ya? laugh.gif
i won't be surprise if you start postings pictures of your lats soon lol
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after madcow program, do ur hands and legs shake like mad cow disease patient? tongue.gif
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my face looks like a dead cow after madcow lol
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Week 2 day 1
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Squat

warm up
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real sets
1x5x80
1x5x101
1x5x123
1x5x145
1x5x166

Bench

warm up
2x5xbar

real sets
1x5x62
1x5x78
1x5x95
1x5x112
1x5x128

Row

warm up
2x5x35

real sets
1x5x52
1x5x67
1x5x81
1x5x95
1x5x109

accessory

hypers
2x8x35

sit up
4x8x35

Notes
1. not really hard, but still worn out.
2. still getting use with the powerlifting bench, foot tuck behind knees form. gotta need some time to get use to it i think

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Week 2 day 2
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Squat

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real sets
1x5x80
1x5x101
1x5x123
1x5x123

MP

warm up
2x5x35

real sets
1x5x52
1x5x63
1x5x74
1x5x86

DL

warm up
2x5xbar

real sets
1x5x119
1x5x144
1x5x170
1x5x195

Lats Pulldown

real sets
4x12x80

accessory

sit ups
3x8x35

Notes
1. er.. easy day. nothing unusual. saturday gonna be a biatch day.

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where did the lats pulldown come from?
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where did the lats pulldown come from?
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the first saiyan totally the best shape after all.. no need to grow bigger muscle.. it will make u become like slowpoke biggrin.gif

just joking bro.. keep up with ur plan k thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(bluffy83 @ Jun 15 2007, 09:14 AM)
the first saiyan totally the best shape after all.. no need to grow bigger muscle.. it will make u become like slowpoke biggrin.gif 

just joking bro.. keep up with ur plan k  thumbup.gif
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and what does all this have anything to do with dragonball (saiyan)? blink.gif
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QUOTE(King83 @ Jun 15 2007, 08:23 AM)
where did the lats pulldown come from?
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oh, i do upright barbell row instead..
just last wednesday my PT said my traps lacking blink.gif
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y u customize the workout routine.. DL already worked your traps.
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QUOTE(jones007 @ Jun 15 2007, 03:36 PM)
y u customize the workout routine.. DL already worked your traps.
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QUOTE(jones007 @ Jun 15 2007, 03:36 PM)
y u customize the workout routine.. DL already worked your traps.
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week 2 day 3
16th June

Squat

warm up
2x5xbar

real sets
1x5x80
1x5x101
1x5x123
1x5x145
1x3x171
1x8x123

Bench

warm up
2x5xbar

real sets
1x5x62
1x5x78
1x5x95
1x5x112
1x3x132
1x8x95

Bent row

warm up
2x5xbar

real sets
1x5x52
1x5x67
1x5x81
1x5x95
1x3x112
1x8x81

accessory

dips
2x8x25
2x8xbw

preacher curl
2x12x20

skull crushers
2x12x20

Notes
1. a few important notes today. worked out at ultimate gym, met terry the fukking big guy and an ex me universe. freaking ripped and big.
2. going to change pendlay to bent over, terry said pendlay is a waste of time laugh.gif
3. since syd said bent is 2x over pendlay, i'll tweak the weight a little starting next week and see how it goes la.
4. did preacher and skull c with the Ez bar. forgot the weight of the bar. around 7kg(15lbs i think >.>)
5. anyway had a great time, great laugh, kept talking about glucose deficit lol
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QUOTE(jones007 @ Jun 17 2007, 04:47 AM)
did preacher and skull c with the Ez bar. forgot the weight of the bar. around 7kg(15lbs i think >.>)
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i tot bb usually weighs around 12kg...dunno la
maybe varies
cuz the ones im familiar at gold's are 12-20kg bar only
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Ez bar is the short one iwth bents in the middile. only oly bar is 20kg
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week 3 day 1
19th June

Squats

warm up
2x5xbar

real sets
1x5x82
1x5x104
1x5x126
1x5x148
1x5x171

Bench

warm up
2x5xbar

real sets
1x5x63
1x5x80
1x5x97
1x5x115
1x5x132

Row

warm up
2x5xbar

real sets
1x5x63
1x5x80
1x5x97
1x5x115
1x5x132

accessory

weighted hypers
2x10x35

weighted sit ups
4x10x35

Notes
1. Squats starting to get nice, i love it.
2. chged to bent over row and trying to figure out my 5RM. so today bent was kind of a failure in poundages. but anyway, just for the record.
3. next session of row should tell me my maxes.

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whats oly bar?
the bar im using for bench is 20kg
its freaking long and shiny
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oly bar is the 20kg one la. swt the bar used for olympic weight lifting competition
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Week 3 day 2
21st June

Squats

warm up
2x5xbar

real sets
1x5x82
1x5x104
1x5x126
1x5x126

MP

warm up
2x5x35

real sets
1x5x54
1x5x65
1x5x76
1x5x88

DL

warm up
2x5xbar

real sets
1x5x131
1x5x159
1x5x187
1x5x215

Notes
1. squats was easy, cant wait for triple day.
2. er DL weights kinda messed up doh.gif previously i stated the wrong 5RM of my DL. now set back already lol.
3. MP back to old PR ady. nice nice haha. going to hit 25lbs plates next week for MP ahah.
4. thats all i guess
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Week 3 day 3
23th June

Squats

warm up
2x5xbar

real sets
1x5x82
1x5x104
1x5x126
1x5x148
1x3x175
1x8x126

Bench

warm up
2x5xbar

real sets
1x5x63
1x5x80
1x5x97
1x5x115
1x3x135
1x8x97

Bent Row

warm up
2x5xbar

real sets
1x5x63
1x5x80
1x5x97
1x5x115
1x3x135
1x8x97

Accessory

Weighted dips
3x8x25

Ez preacher curls
2x12x45
1x10x45

Skull crushers
3x10x45

Notes
1. Week 3! going into week 4! back to old PR. the weights are bearable, rather easy, for the compound ones.
2. finally can do 3 sets of weights dips with 25 haha, gonna add it to 35 by week5. Damn i'm getting close to the 45lbs plate man!
3. the Ez curl bar is 25lbs if i'm not mistaken.
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week 4 day 1
26th June

Squat

warm up
2x5xbar

real sets
1x5x84
1x5x107
1x5x130
1x5x152
1x5x175

Bench

warm up
2x5xbar

real sets
1x5x65
1x5x82
1x5x100
1x5x117
1x5x135

Bent Row

warm up
2x5xbar

real sets
1x5x65
1x5x82
1x5x100
1x5x117
1x5x135

Accessory

Weighted Hypers
2x10x35

Weighted Situps
3x10x35

Notes
1. squats was okay, bench was easy, rows was hard.
2. sit ups was hard, dono why, harder than last week, did 3 sets out of 4 only. lower back hurts like b****.
3. cant wait for friday. pr day. gonna squat 180. nice lmao

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week 4 day 2
28th June

Squat

warm up
2x5xbar

real sets
1x5x84
1x5x107
1x5x130
1x5x130

MP

warm up
2x5x35

real sets
1x5x55
1x5x67
1x5x78
1x5x90

DL

warm up
2x5xbar

real sets
1x5x134
1x5x163
1x5x191
1x5x220

Lats pulldown

real sets
4x12x80

Notes
1. nth to say lol
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week 4 day 3
30th June

Squats

warm up
2x5xbar

real sets
1x5x84
1x5x107
1x5x130
1x5x152
1x3x179 PR
1x8x130

Bench

warm up
2x5xbar

real sets
1x5x65
1x5x82
1x5x100
1x5x117
1x3x138 PR
1x8x100

bent row

warm up
2x5xbar

real sets
1x5x65
1x5x82
1x5x100
1x5x117
1x3x138 PR
1x8x100

accessory

Dips
3x8x25

ez curl
3x8x??

skull c.
3x8x??

Notes
1. everything was easy, very nice.
2. very confused with the ez bar there. theres 2. one weighs some what like 20lbs another weighs like 35lbs. not sure rclxub.gif

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what's ur squat PR? do u mind stating ur previous PRs so that it'll be an easier reference to see how far u've progressed and how long it'll take u to hit them PRs?
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oh previous pr is 175 lo. just pr to 179. lol i think i should bold them up.

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Week 5 day 1
3th July

Squats

warm up
2x5xbar

real sets
1x5x86
1x5x109
1x5x133
1x5x156
1x5x179

Bench

warm up
2x5xbar

real sets
1x5x66
1x5x84
1x5x102
1x5x120
1x5x138

Bent Row

warm up
2x5xbar

real sets
1x5x66
1x5x84
1x5x102
1x5x120
1x5x138

Accessory

null

Notes
1. damn hurry so didn't do acceossory stuffs.
2. squats, bench, row. all 3 of them not bad. hard but still can manage. gg modified
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dude.. week 5 day 1 should be ur PR... not week 4 day 3.. that's to prepare u for next week 5 reps.. so i think u should edit them.. haha!
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week 5 day 2
5th July

Squats

warm up
2x5xbar

real sets
1x5x86
1x5x109
1x5x133
1x5x133

MP

warm up
2x5x35

real sets
1x5x56
1x5x68
1x5x80
1x5x92

DL

warm up
2x5xbar

real sets
1x5x138
1x5x167
1x5x196
1x5x226 PR!!

Lats pulldown
4x12x80

accessory
3x10x35

Notes
1. tried front squats, canot tahan, lol wrong position of the bar i think, canot breath rclxub.gif
2. MP still the same. no microweights canot do increment lol
3. DL!! wrrruuuuuuaaaaaaaggggghhhhhh.
4. dono why, the longer i do the program, the harder my sit ups get, eventho the weights is the same form the beginning, even the reps are the same, but it gets harder and harder, couldn't complete 3rd set of 10 reps today doh.gif
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Hey jones ,are u now still doing ATG squats?
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of course ATG rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(King83 @ Jul 5 2007, 07:15 PM)
Real Men ATG
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Sigh , then those bbers who do parallel squats not real men ar?
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dont contaminate my journal with rubbish lol.
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QUOTE(Canopies @ Jul 5 2007, 07:40 PM)
Sigh , then those bbers who do parallel squats not real men ar?
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They are. You need to realize the source of information sometimes. You're just listening to someone who thinks he knows everything about bb'ing but he doesn't. I'm sure you've seen pro bbers' training videos.
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congrats on the 2 plate PR jones!!! woohoo!!! feels fantastic donnit?!?!

i'll show u how to front squat on saturday if u're coming k..
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QUOTE(musclemass @ Jul 6 2007, 01:10 PM)
What's so great about ATG? Mind you, while doing ATG, at the bottom position, you are recruiting more of your glute to drive the weights up instead of your quad. Coming up with statements such as REAL MEN ATG is just like saying REAL MEN DON'T DRINK FROM STRAW. WTF man? Learn how the exercise works before you run your bullshit all over.
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week 5 day 3
7th June

Squats

warm up
2x5xbar

real sets
1x5x86
1x5x109
1x5x133
1x5x156
1x4x184
1x8x133

Bench

warm up
2x5xbar

real sets
1x5x66
1x5x84
1x5x102
1x5x120
1x3x142
1x8x102

Row

warm up
2x5xbar

real sets
1x5x66
1x5x84
1x5x102
1x5x120
1x3x142
1x8x102

Accessory

preacher curls
3x12x20

tricep extensions
3x12x20

Notes
1. everything is easy, row a little tough.
2. GOD DAMN IT NO DIPS FOR ME cry.gif cry.gif cry.gif anabolic gym dont have dips station doh.gif got dips belt doh.gif no station doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif
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Week 6 day 1
10th July

Squat

warm up
2x5xbar

real sets
1x5x88
1x5x112
1x5x136
1x5x160
1x5x184

Bench

warm up
2x5xbar

real sets
1x5x68
1x5x87
1x5x105
1x5x123
1x5x142

Bent ROw

warm up
2x5xbar

real sets
1x5x68
1x5x87
1x5x105
1x5x123
1x5x142

Accessory

weighted hypers
2x8x35

weighted sit ups
1x10x35

Notes
1. squats was hard, but nice. bench was just nice, row wasn't satisfying.
2. couldn't complete sit ups. back pain. dono why.
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Jones, on day 2 of the week, do you squat or deadlift first?
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jones.. i see a really weird pattern here.. u're a strong upper body dude, but squats is giving u trouble.. this is according to ur weight class of cuz..

for my weight class, i would humbly consider myself stronger on my squat and DL as compared to my upper body capabilities.. like 2-3x the weight difference.. i squat around 275.. but i only bench around 155-175 max.. and i can't even confidently say i can go it now.. haven't been touching bench for a month now.. am concentrating on incline DB bench negatives.. 4 seconds to lower and shoot up as fast as i can.. bloody RCs..

guess everyone differs so much.. i thought that there'd be at least an average ratio between lower body and upper body movements..
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Carl, what program you doing?
I saw you doing cleans...
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i'm not on any particular programme.. just sticking to a basic 5x5 principal.. cleans was more for fun than anything else.. but it's hard to clean with octogon shaped plates..
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QUOTE(King83 @ Jul 11 2007, 08:06 AM)
Jones, on day 2 of the week, do you squat or deadlift first?
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squat 1st la boss of cuz. squat then MP then DL last.

QUOTE(carlsuen @ Jul 11 2007, 12:33 PM)
jones.. i see a really weird pattern here.. u're a strong upper body dude, but squats is giving u trouble.. this is according to ur weight class of cuz..

for my weight class, i would humbly consider myself stronger on my squat and DL as compared to my upper body capabilities.. like 2-3x the weight difference.. i squat around 275.. but i only bench around 155-175 max.. and i can't even confidently say i can go it now.. haven't been touching bench for a month now.. am concentrating on incline DB bench negatives.. 4 seconds to lower and shoot up as fast as i can.. bloody RCs..

guess everyone differs so much.. i thought that there'd be at least an average ratio between lower body and upper body movements..
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i dono mate. i've got chicken legs before. i thought i'm normal rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(jones007 @ Jul 11 2007, 02:12 PM)
squat 1st la boss of cuz. squat then MP then DL last.
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I've started Deadlifting first...
for one reason, DL is a PR... Wednesday's Squat is a walk in the park.

not sure if it's advisable tho.

DL --> SQ --> MP
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Oi Jones , flying to where ? If free then can help me check out bodyfat caliper mou?

I went to shang hai and cant even find any of this.
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going indonesia. doubt they will have it there. hope to find a gym there so i wont have to miss my 230lbs deadlift session tomolo brows.gif
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Lolx , my deadlift already at 230lbs ... if got then help me buy lah...if not susah to know our bodyfat percentage .
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Week 6 day 1
17th July

Squat

warm up
2x5xbar

real sets
1x5x88
1x5x112
1x5x136
1x5x160
1x5x184

Bench

warm up
2x5xbar

real sets
1x5x68
1x5x87
1x5x105
1x5x123
1x5x142

Bent ROw

warm up
2x5xbar

real sets
1x5x68
1x5x87
1x5x105
1x5x123
1x5x142

Accessory

weighted hypers
2x8x35

weighted sit ups
0

Notes
1. if u r wondering why i repeated this cuz i took a 5 day rest at indonesia with no gym. so.. yeah.
2. everything was back at the same place, dont have to reset, manage to push through, even tho squats is f***ing hard and rows and bench was okay..
3. i pulled my right hamstring while doing last set of bench, too much leg drive i guess, nothing big, just a small pull. gonna DL 230 tomolo haha. yeah baby light weight!
4. didn't do sit ups cuz they disassembled the sit up chair right after i finish hypers for maintainence. too bad. lol

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10th July?
don't you mean today ?
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forgot to edit date rclxub.gif i just copied it lol tongue.gif
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and this is coming from the person who always tells me not to screw the program.
you wanna DL tomolo without a rest day in between ?
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i feel jealous

i tried deadlifting 60 kg today..

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QUOTE(nezzy @ Jul 17 2007, 06:15 PM)
i feel jealous

i tried deadlifting 60 kg today..

sakit
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screw the weights.... as long as u gave ur 100%, that's all that matters.
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injury lar

havent been squatting and deadlifting for like three weeks
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what injury? back? muscle or bone? if small prob like muscle.. go for those acupunture.. they work wonders man! they'll fix u in 20 mins.. but if something more serious, then pity u lar.. how it happen?
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yeah man... 3weeks rest and still hurt sounds pretty serious
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hips ...

so far upper body workouts onli
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QUOTE(King83 @ Jul 17 2007, 06:12 PM)
and this is coming from the person who always tells me not to screw the program.
you wanna DL tomolo without a rest day in between ?
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my tomorrow means next session la doh.gif i nvr screw the program. only u screw them

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hips ...

so far upper body workouts onli
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nah as long i keep my back upright it feels fine..

thx for asking
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QUOTE(jones007 @ Jul 17 2007, 07:12 PM)
my tomorrow means next session la doh.gif i nvr screw the program. only u screw them
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Week 6 day 2
19th July

Squats

warm up
2x5xbar

real sets
1x5x88
1x5x112
1x5x136
1x5x136

MP

warm up
2x5xbar

real sets
1x5x58
1x5x70
1x5x82
1x5x95 PR! WITH 25LBS PLATES brows.gif

Deadlift

warm up
2x5xbar

real sets
1x5x141
1x5x171
1x5x201
1x5x231 PR MUTHA FUKKAA!!

Lats pulldown

real sets
1x12x90
1x12x90
1x12x90
1x8x90

accessory

sit ups
0x0x0

Notes
1. damn relieved! i manage to get through 95 MP! tweaked the form a little, felt it hit my deltoids more. no shit. this is good lol
2. damn again DL! screw DL i feel so damn tired and taxed after DL. but then, 230 was fukked hard. the last rep took me 3++ secs to stand up straight. very satisfying tho
3. lats pulldown, increased poundages but canot finish last set, no spotter lol, susah to finish
4. declined sit up chair still in maintainance, no sit up for this week i guess =\
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tweak what MP form??
something u're not teaching me? hmm.gif
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i just realised my MP form is screwed up after i saw jay cutler standing military pressing 225.
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QUOTE(jones007 @ Jul 19 2007, 06:03 PM)
Week 6 day 2
19th July

Deadlift

warm up
2x5xbar

real sets
1x5x141
1x5x171
1x5x201
1x5x231 PR MUTHA FUKKAA!!
congratulation on new PR! rclxms.gif
coincidentally, i got my PR of deadlift in 100kg (225lbs). thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(T+1 @ Jul 19 2007, 10:46 PM)
congratulation on new PR!  rclxms.gif
coincidentally, i got my PR of deadlift in 100kg (225lbs).  thumbup.gif
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cool man! 100kg barrier! let me know when u breakthrough 100kg man! keep it up! flex.gif flex.gif
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Week 6 day 3
21st July

Squats

warm up
2x5xbar

real sets
1x5x88
1x5x112
1x5x136
1x5x160
1x3x188 PR!
1x8x136

Bench

warm up
2x5xbar

real sets
1x5x68
1x5x87
1x5x105
1x5x123
1x3x145 PR!
1x8x105

Row

warm up
2x5xbar

real sets
1x5x68
1x5x87
1x5x105
1x5x123
1x3x145 PR!
1x8x105

Accessory

Weighted Dips
3x8x25

Preacher curls
3x12x45

Skull crushers
3x10x45

Notes
1. Squats was really really freaking hard to day. omg.. was about to give up squats man. but IMMA CHARGIN MAH LAZERS and manage to push through
2. bench was.. easy lol row oso easy. i guess carlsuen is right, i have a strong upper body. lmao
3. Dips sitll boleh, might increase weight next dip session, add 5 lbs tongue.gif
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Week 7 day 1
24th July

Squats

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1x10xbar

real sets
1x5x90
1x5x115
1x5x139
1x5x164
1x5x188

Bench

warm up
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real sets
1x5x70
1x5x89
1x5x108
1x5x126
1x5x145

Row

warm up
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real sets
1x5x70
1x5x89
1x5x108
1x5x126
1x5x145

Accessory

Hypers
2x8x35

Sit ups
2x8x25
1x16xbw

Notes
1. tried adding reps into warm up. might be better, but then 1st 2 working sets is like warm up so.. dono la
2. Squats and row was easy, Bench was freaking hard rclxub.gif dono why
3. beh tahan with sit up, back pain by 3rd set. so did bw sit up lol
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Jones,

U were at CF a moment ago? Long hair dude wearing White shirt with black pants?

Impressed with the amount of weight u squatted.
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QUOTE(N0eL @ Jul 24 2007, 06:07 PM)
Jones,

U were at CF a moment ago? Long hair dude wearing White shirt with black pants?

Impressed with the amount of weight u squatted.
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I wasn't there but from the description, it's definately him lol laugh.gif
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OMG that was jones xD

I got spotted by Neek and now its ur turn muahahahahah biggrin.gif


Added on July 24, 2007, 6:18 pmIs it just me or jones has always been wearing white tshirt and black pants? xD

N0eL, next time steal his inhaler brows.gif

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QUOTE(N0eL @ Jul 24 2007, 06:07 PM)
Jones,

U were at CF a moment ago? Long hair dude wearing White shirt with black pants?

Impressed with the amount of weight u squatted.
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cool which one is u??

QUOTE(Syd G @ Jul 24 2007, 06:12 PM)
Is it just me or jones has always been wearing white tshirt and black pants? xD

N0eL, next time steal his inhaler brows.gif
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i memang always wear the same shit to gym lol

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I also same wurt... always white "running" t-shirt + black shorts.

go gym only mah.. wear so nice for what?
If wanna pick up girls then different story lah.
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QUOTE(jones007 @ Jul 24 2007, 09:05 PM)
cool which one is u??
i memang always wear the same shit to gym lol
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white singlet with black beach pants ~!

possibly going there coming thurs ... see u then if we bump into each other ~!
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Hey I'm from cf too...I always wear diff shirt , but dun hv chance to bump into chicks..>.<
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QUOTE(N0eL @ Jul 24 2007, 10:04 PM)
white singlet with black beach pants ~!

possibly going there coming thurs ... see u then if we bump into each other ~!
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wah... u dare to wear white singlet ah?
you must be big notworthy.gif
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QUOTE(N0eL @ Jul 24 2007, 10:04 PM)
white singlet with black beach pants ~!

possibly going there coming thurs ... see u then if we bump into each other ~!
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i'm going at thurs as well. usually at there 2 30-4. let me know la when u see me.

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wah... u dare to wear white singlet ah?
you must be big  notworthy.gif
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apa sal with wearing singlet rclxub.gif
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jones.. u in PR teritorry now? it's week 7 already..
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ya. started PR since week 4 ady lo.
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indicate or bold them la.. how we supposed to know?
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QUOTE(jones007 @ Jul 21 2007, 06:52 PM)
Week 6 day 3
21st July

Squats

warm up
2x5xbar

real sets
1x5x88
1x5x112
1x5x136
1x5x160
1x3x188 PR!
1x8x136

Bench

warm up
2x5xbar

real sets
1x5x68
1x5x87
1x5x105
1x5x123
1x3x145 PR!
1x8x105

Row

warm up
2x5xbar

real sets
1x5x68
1x5x87
1x5x105
1x5x123
1x3x145 PR!
1x8x105

Accessory

Weighted Dips
3x8x25

Preacher curls
3x12x45

Skull crushers
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as a matter of fact he always does bold them up
you probably need to pay a lil more attention
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QUOTE(carlsuen @ Jul 25 2007, 01:05 PM)
indicate or bold them la.. how we supposed to know?
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QUOTE(pizzaboy @ Jul 25 2007, 01:23 PM)
as a matter of fact he always does bold them up
you probably need to pay a lil more attention
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he always bold them on day 3.. lol.. i tot PR day supposed to be on day 1??

shouldn't the PRs be your best of 5 instead of 3?

my bad if u didn't think so.. tongue.gif

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to me numbers le. not rep. even 1 rep max attemp is still pr lol. to me its the weight i put on my back. 1st time i squat 190 despire the reps so its still pr la laugh.gif
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lol.. i remember when i was doing triples on day 3, i was like

"whoa, damn hard.. but i got thru the 3 reps.. "

then i thought about next week day 1 where i had to do 5 reps..

*terus pengsan*

lol..
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ya know, i think one of the reasons madcow worked for me, was because i fcuked the program up completely.

yeah, sure i did the 5x5 parts and 1x8 and then 1x3 set....but i always had a 1RPM every week.

I'd find my 1RPM for squats on monday week 1
then 1RPM for deads on wednesday week 2
1RPM for bench on week 3

it kinda got boring that's why i changed it up. and i always always did a set of 12-15 (durin the bodybuilding craze days)

Mondays, I'd do back squats for 20 reps (after i finish all the sets, oh yes they burnt!)

Weds I'd do deads to about 8-10 reps

And on fridays, I'd do dips till failure. Then assisted dips, then negative dips. I believe dips and CGBP's are the key to strong triceps. And I think it's apparent my triceps are a strong point of my arms. I hate having bulging biceps cuz it hindered flexibility.

I'd always say "Ya know what, screw skullcrushers, screw extensions, bull! I feel the burn with dips, I'll do dips. Screw what they say, it's my body. I make the rules"

And madcow worked. Maybe those were n00b gains but I was at my 6th -7th month of training when i started madcow. Prolly wasn't so noob no more.
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still noob laaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa..

lol.. so impatient la u..
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QUOTE(pizzaboy @ Jul 25 2007, 02:45 PM)
ya know, i think one of the reasons madcow worked for me, was because i fcuked the program up completely.
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well not everybody can fukk up thier program complete and still gain. lol

but there are ppl out there fukking up their program and complaining y aren't they seeing results
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i hope u're not talking bout me cos i definately didn't complain bout not getting results laugh.gif
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u always complain......
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Duno...friend and i both messed it up real mad, but we stuck to the 3 core lifts.

good stuff. =D
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maybe i'll screw it later on. i hate doing sit ups rclxub.gif

any idea what else can replace? i hate crunches as well lol

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maybe i'll screw it later on. i hate doing sit ups rclxub.gif

any idea what else can replace? i hate crunches as well lol
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well,for sit ups, i substituted it with far more interesting exercises, for example:

- Hanging leg lifts
- Horizontal leg lifts
- Heavy weighted leg lifts
- The Flag (Bruce Lee style, 3 reps max!)
- Upside down chin ups

I reasoned, that because abs are fast twitch muscles, burn them with heavy reps with low reps. Kill em off quick. It worked for me, I feel.

For the back, I switched to;

- Good mornings
- SLDL
- Glute Ham Raises
- Power clean

Hyperextensions are still very important I feel, that's why I do them, but I alternate between the others.
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u mean heavy weights with lor reps?

i've been doing SLDL all the time i realised, when i go heavy. i cant seem to do conventional DL with heavy weigths. very weird laugh.gif heh i think i'll sub those sit ups out with something else lol

i'm cool with hypers. how many reps do u do? i usually do 8-10 only

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heavy weights with low reps

i do hypers with 135lbs for about 4-6 reps. Usually 5, depends on the mood i suppose.
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how do u hug 135 lbs? 3 plates of 45lbs leh.
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how do u hug 135 lbs? 3 plates of 45lbs leh.
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WHT?
nobody straps 135lbs like that.
We use oly bars with 45lbs plates la...
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doing hypers? u mean good mornings or wat?
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good mornings at 185lbs
hypers at 135
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how u do hypers with barbell on your back? or u have some one put it on for u?
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QUOTE(jones007 @ Jul 25 2007, 07:44 PM)
u always complain......
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i only said your chest developed way more than mine..
but i'm growing on lats...

i have always said that, i never btich about me not growing.

conclusion: genetics.
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how u do hypers with barbell on your back? or u have some one put it on for u?
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We have a rack like this.
I'll usually power clean the weights to my shoulder, then press it to the back, walk to the bench, and just do hyperextensions.
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QUOTE(pizzaboy @ Jul 26 2007, 10:08 AM)
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We have a rack like this.
I'll usually power clean the weights to my shoulder, then press it to the back, walk to the bench, and just do hyperextensions.
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susah nyer rclxub.gif
DL 237 today! wuuahh. dono can pull onot sweat.gif
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QUOTE(jones007 @ Jul 26 2007, 11:05 AM)
susah nyer rclxub.gif
DL 237 today! wuuahh. dono can pull onot sweat.gif
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When you have a goal in mind, you don't care how hard it's gonna take. YOu just do what it takes, to achieve it.
At least that's always been the case for me.
Want something, work hard. Get it easy, ain't no satisfaction.

You know how I do a PR? I remind myself, "Titania" of bb.com deadlifts 407lbs at 148LBS. A woman. I remind myself, 18 year olds can deadlift 607LBS, world record suited nevertheless. And I remind myself, lifting weights off the floor, is a tonne easier than studying for business mathematics, and if I can ace that subject, I can pull a PR.

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yeah when i'm infront of the iron i dont really think much. its really a lot of mental preparation rather than just physical.

hey kirk, when do i have the chance to train with u man? everytime u come back to KL without a sound and went back to melacca lol.
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QUOTE(jones007 @ Jul 26 2007, 11:21 AM)
yeah when i'm infront of the iron i dont really think much. its really a lot of mental preparation rather than just physical.

hey kirk, when do i have the chance to train with u man? everytime u come back to KL without a sound and went back to melacca lol.
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hehehehe.....
just give me a couple weeks, i'll contact a couple of you guys when i come up.

But erh, no way in heaven and hell am I gonna pay RM20, RM30 to enter wonghong or who god knows gym .....

i just need a barbell, a rack, 45LBS plates. Nothing else. I don't see any reason I need to pay 20 bucks to use just that eh?
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there's not free gym dude lol. 10-20 is reasonable la. above that is stupid lol.

even joey's gym gotta pay 5 bucks
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QUOTE(jones007 @ Jul 26 2007, 11:49 AM)
there's not free gym dude lol. 10-20 is reasonable la. above that is stupid lol.

even joey's gym gotta pay 5 bucks
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Ghetto 5 bucks i'm sweet with that.
Furthermore, i can squat barefooted. I likey that.
Hehehehe, cheras sumore....so close to my cuzzie's and buddies places.
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LOlx,when u guys going Joey's gym? I'm coming along then ...Hoho
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cakap only. lol

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Week 7 day 2
26th July

Squat

warm up
2x8xbar

real sets
1x5x90
1x5x115
1x5x139
1x5x139

MP

warm up
2x5xbar

real sets
1x5x59
1x5x172
1x5x84
1x4x97 No pr cry.gif

Deadlift

warm up
2x5xbar

real sets
1x5x145
1x5x175
1x5x206
1x5x237 PR!!

Lats pulldown

3x12x90
1x11x90

accessory

sit up
3x10xbw

Notes
1. MP failed last rep doh.gif why i failed last rep doh.gif
2. DL pr. no problem so far. no grip problem! suprised.
3. 1 more rep to finish lats pulldown swt. canot finish it =.=
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for military press? next week lo ._.

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Week 7 day 3
28th July

Squats

warm up
2x8xbar

real sets
1x5x90
1x5x115
1x5x139
1x5x164
1x3x193 PR!!
1x8x139

Bench

warm up
2x8xbar

real sets
1x5x70
1x5x89
1x5x108
1x5x126
1x3x149 PR!!
1x8x108

Row

warm up
2x5xbar

real sets
1x5x70
1x5x89
1x5x108
1x5x126
1x3x149 PR!!
1x8x108

Accessory

Dips
2x8x30
1x6x25

Preacher curls
1x12x20
2x10x25

Skull crushers
2x10x20
1x8x20

Notes
1. everything is easy. dips was hard.
2. increased preacher curl weight a little.
3. skull crushers kantoi after i increase dip
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Week 8 day 1
31st July

Squats

warm up
2x8xbar

real sets
1x5x93
1x5x118
1x5x143
1x5x168
1x5x193

Bench

warm up
2x8xbar

1x5x72
1x5x91
1x5x110
1x5x130
1x5x149

Row

warm up
2x8xbar

real sets
1x5x72
1x5x91
1x5x110
1x5x130
1x5x149

Accessory

hypers
0x0x0

sit up
3x12xbw

Notes
1. everything easy, bench harder abit.
2. no hyper station at CF SC. canot find rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(jones007 @ Jul 31 2007, 09:47 PM)
Week 8 day 1
31st July

Squats

warm up
2x8xbar

real sets
1x5x93
1x5x118
1x5x143
1x5x168
1x5x193

Bench

warm up
2x8xbar

1x5x72
1x5x91
1x5x110
1x5x130
1x5x149

Row

warm up
2x8xbar

real sets
1x5x72
1x5x91
1x5x110
1x5x130
1x5x149

Accessory

hypers
0x0x0

sit up
3x12xbw

Notes
1. everything easy, bench harder abit.
2. no hyper station at CF SC. canot find rclxub.gif
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What u working as ? so syok ???
Woah ,now sure got money buy creatine edi la...
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Week 8 day 2
2nd Aug

Squat

warm up
2x8xbar

real sets
1x5x93
1x5x118
1x5x143
1x5x143

MP

warm up
2x6xbar

real sets
1x5x59
1x5x72
1x5x85
1x5x97 PR!!

DL

warm up
1x5x135

real sets
1x5x148
1x5x180
1x5x211
1x5x243 PR!!

Lats Pulldown

real sets
6x10x91

Notes
1. finally can finish my MP
2. DL was satisfying. the intensity is just now
3. might be something wrong with lats pull down or i'm feeling strong with tuna sandwich as pre workout. 1st set was kinda heavy so i takut canot finish all 4 sets so did 10 reps only, then i tried 5 sets, feeling good then did 6 sets, last few reps was just now. lol add weight time maybe.
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u mao train ngan kirk?
I think carl will be interested too.
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bila train? anabolic gym again? no dip station leh lol
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hey jonesy boy!
i'll be comin up on tuesday, hope to see some of you guys. Ija's training with me, I'll be meeting king for some whey and to see him. Hopin 2 meet carl as well.....you?

I'll be around subang-damansara only though. So wherever anabolic is, ija'll be fetchin me. i'll probably leave my car to my friends.
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tuesday i'm working la rclxub.gif going to meet when? next sat something like that or ?
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i'm also working... so i can't train i guess.
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syd no need work on tues?
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So william's on or not?
don't think i'll let you go away that easily after taking my whey, kirk tongue.gif
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u all got six pact already ?
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QUOTE(King83 @ Aug 5 2007, 11:28 AM)
So william's on or not?
don't think i'll let you go away that easily after taking my whey, kirk tongue.gif
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hahaha
williams, wililams. no problemo.
relax la....i dun intend to run off after taking the stuff. i still wanna meet you guys.
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Week 8 day 3
4th Aug

Squat

warm up
2x8xbar

real sets
1x5x93
1x5x118
1x5x143
1x5x168
1x3x200 PR!!
1x8x143

Bench

warm up
2x8xbar

real sets
1x5x72
1x5x91
1x5x110
1x5x130
1x3x152 PR!!
1x8x110

Row

warm up
2x8xbar

real sets
1x5x72
1x5x91
1x5x110
1x5x130
1x3x152 PR!!
1x8x110

Accessory

Weighted dips
3x8x30

incline bench dumbbell curls
3x10x20

Skull chrushers
3x11x20

Notes
1. forgot to update yesterday lol
2. squats bench row easy overall
3. incline bench seems to be hitting my long head a lot more, good feeling on the bicep.
4. finally manage to finish dips at 30lbs. skull chrushers easy ady. need to add a little.

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830 williams sounds good ?
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Post post can? Around 630? sweat.gif
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go gym later lah..
630 gua haven't knock off from work -.-"
or you guys can go ahead and i come later?

sorry for spamming ur thread jones, but we don't got other place to discuss this sweat.gif
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tonight 830? or tuesday 8 30? i took half day leave to do some stuff.
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of cos tomolo 830 lah... cantik boh?
or u can go earlier say 630? syddy wants 630.
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tomolo i'm going to gym after work, which is 6. finish and reach home by 830. so 830 is cool at williams for post. brows.gif
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QUOTE(jones007 @ Aug 6 2007, 12:51 PM)
tomolo i'm going to gym after work, which is 6. finish and reach home by 830. so 830 is cool at williams for post. brows.gif
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i is gymming at 2pm-ish so i may have to pass williams. 8pm i got a meeting dy sweat.gif
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8pm lu meeting kat mana sweat.gif i 8 30 baru finish leh
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Dude, u got my sms?
Pizza cancelled the meetup... he's going back at 5 or 6pm.

but i met him.... fukker, that guy is BIG weii. shocking.gif
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got ady. accidently delete before i can save ur number lol
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Week 9 day 1
7th August

Squats

warm up
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real sets
1x5x96
1x5x122
1x5x148
1x5x174
1x5x200

Bench

warm up
2x8xbar

real sets
1x5x73
1x5x93
1x5x112
1x5x132
1x5x152

Row

warm up
2x8xbar

real sets
1x5x73
1x5x93
1x5x112
1x5x132
1x5x152

Accessory

weighted hypers
2x35x8

Hanging Leg Raises
3x8

Notes
1. good workout day. everything was just nice. intensity masih boleh tahan.
2. subbed sit ups with leg raises, having lower back problem with sit ups rclxub.gif
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Week 9 day 2
9th August

Squat

warm up
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real sets
1x5x96
1x5x122
1x5x148
1x5x148

MP

warm up
2x5xbar

real sets
1x5x61
1x5x74
1x5x87
1x5x100 PR!!

DL

warm up
0x0x0

real sets
1x5x153
1x5x185
1x5x218
1x5x250 PR!!

Lats pulldown

warm up
0x0x0

real sets
3x10x100
1x10x90

Accessory

Hanging leg raises
3x10

Notes
1. MP was fun lol DL was freaking bad, very hard on the last rep. wanted to die.
2. tried to increase lats pull down, cants complete. dropped weights and tebus balik

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everyday is a PR day in madcow smile.gif
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Week 9 day 3
11th Aug

Squats

warm up
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real sets
1x5x96
1x5x122
1x5x148
1x5x174
1x3x205 PR!!
1x8x148

Bench

warm up
2x8xbar

real sets
1x5x73
1x5x93
1x5x112
1x5x132
1x3x156 PR!!
1x8x112

Row

warm up
2x8xbar

real sets
1x5x73
1x5x93
1x5x112
1x5x132
1x3x156 PR!!
1x8x112

Accessory

Weighted dips
2x8x35 PR!
1x6x35

Incline bench dumbbell curls
3x10x20

Skull Crushers
3x12x20

Notes
1. i tell u, pre workout really helps so farking much man. squats and bench one PR was FUUCKING EASY. had one big place of rice covered with chicken and vege. was freaking hungry cuz last time slept 11 hours lol
2. weigted dips was good. after skull crushers i couldn't feel my triceps anymore lol

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hi, jones. where do you get a dip belt for your weighted dips from?
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good thing about california fitness. they provide dip belts! and nobody uses it! some used it as a power belt for curls doh.gif
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week 10 day 1
14th Aug

Squats

warm up
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real sets
1x5x98
1x5x125
1x5x152
1x5x178
1x5x205

Bench

warm up
2x8xbar

real sets
1x5x75
1x5x95
1x5x115
1x5x136
1x5x156

Row

warm up
2x8xbar

real sets
1x5x75
1x5x95
1x5x115
1x5x136
1x5x156

Accessory

weighted hypers
0x0x0

Leg raises
4x10

Notes
1. nearly failed squats and bench at last rep. pre workout sucked.
2. no hyper station at MSC. sad
3. leg raises is killer at 4th set lol

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no nasi minyak!!!!!
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QUOTE(hanissyazwan @ Aug 15 2007, 03:40 AM)
no nasi minyak!!!!!
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That was random.

@jones
Wow, everyday seems to be a PR day for you. Great progress! thumbup.gif
Don't mind if I request for a bend-over row vid?
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bent over vid? can. who wana record for me? lol i've got no video camera or phone with good camera lol
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ahahah when i see you at MSC mah take for you lor.
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timing tak baik la u and me lol i only do bent over rows on tues and sat oso
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week 10 day 1
21th Aug

Squats

warm up
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real sets
1x5x98
1x5x125
1x5x152
1x5x178
1x5x205

Bench

warm up
2x8xbar

real sets
1x5x75
1x5x95
1x5x115
1x5x136
1x5x156

Row

warm up
2x8xbar

real sets
1x5x75
1x5x95
1x5x115
1x5x136
1x5x156

Accessory

weighted hypers
0x0x0

Leg raises
3x10

Notes
1. repeat of week 10 day 1. susah, i think i need a power belt ady, my back so farking pain after squats. too much pressure on the back, luckily its the muscle pain lol
2. nearly failed row la. bench was weak, used too much lats muscle, last 2 reps i kicked with my legs and used back momentum to row sweat.gif
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Week 10 day 2
23rd Aug

Squats

warm up
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real sets
1x5x98
1x5x125
1x5x152
1x5x152

Mp

warm up
2x5xbar

real sets
1x5x63
1x5x76
1x5x89
1x5x103

DL

warm up
2x5x100

real sets
1x5x156
1x5x190
1x5x223
1x5x256

Shoulder length Chin up
2x5

wide grip lats pull down
1x8x103
1x8x93

Notes
1. DL was ridiculous. stupid plates made me have to adjust between every reps making me having 2-3 sec of rest between deload. feels like i'm cheating.
2. Mp was peasy easy.
3. chin up was bonanas after DL. no strength to do any shit dy.
4. my body is kinda telling me to take a reset 2 weeks back. feel like shit and worst after workout recently. really really feeling bad. muscle cramping while squats, lower back muscle terus numb after squats, back was sore after bench, still do row making my back breaking up. DL killing my hamstrings and my lower back. feel lik shit
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when was the last time u took a break ?
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last week due to lowerback pain. lol. read my journal see. i repeated week 10 day 1
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oh yeah... but why ur quads cramping after the break?
your back also still suffering...

IMHO, i think u didn't rest enough.


you failed point number 6,
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IMHO


Added on August 24, 2007, 8:39 amsome more it's day 2 of the week, Squats are lightweight.

you shouldn't cramped.

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IMHO

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i guess i need to deload then.. poundages moving upward since i started madcow. must be too taxing for me. time to deload after this saturday. w00t.

but do u think i should deload everything or deload DL only? i feel like deloading DL only. squat bench row mp i still can manage.

i think i cramped due to day 1's squat which is so bad.

advice pls

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err... i think the deload in that sentence don't mean deload ur lifts...
it means "go to rest".
Rest like 2 weeks, until you are fully recovered. You know, 10 or more weeks on madcow is intense,
every session is a PR.
Rest till you're fully recovered, who knows, u might even gain new strength.

But this is just my opinion, u do what you think is best.
others are welcome to comment too.

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i mean reset. not deload. swt type wrong. reset 2 weeks back. resting will just make my strength drop i think. gotta re do. unless after resetting i still feel like shit. then kena rest
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I'm gonna say this one last time...

it's not that you can't lift the weights,
it's your muscle cramping up and giving up on you..

doesn't that tell you something ?

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swt... not eating enough? lol... man.... resting sucks.. reseting rocks.. hahaha oh man i'll think about it.. i also feel that i need a powerbelt lol

rest huh... during rest i'll still do exercises usually.. just no squats.. maybe leg presses or something else.. this worked very well for me while on rippetoe. so..... i'm still in doubt hahaha.. shit la doh.gif
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you gonna overtrain soon laugh.gif

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i'll see how it goes on sat.. if triples at 210 squat is easy.. then something must be wrong.. not enough salt maybe.. no salt = cramp wot. haha
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don't forget your back... and ur hamstrings
it's not just one body part that's failing..

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Erm. I dont know whether this makes sense or not. My honest advice? When you take a break from Madcow, you can rest your main muscles and do bodyweight conditioning.

You can start by doing a simple pushup 3x4-6 (if possible, 6.. else try at least 4). Strict form, military style.

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If your body is not conditioned enough you'll be having a tough time with it due to weak core (cant keep abs up), hip flexors (cant keep ur hip up) & hamstrings (cant keep ur knee super straight). Sometimes it's not even about your arm or chest strength. You can bench press 100kg but if your pushups suck, you're not strong. If you can do this, do other type of body conditioning. Such as training your core and balance.

Oh ya. Training your rectus abdominis is not equivalent to training your core. Ur abs is just a part of ur core. You dont need the damn belt if ur core is strong.

Tell me how it goes. I sure know conditioning did wonders to my body smile.gif
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u know what i'm thinking. push through week 12 which is completely 3 months then take 2 weeks rest. total rest with light cardio and weight lifting. sounds cool?
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If Jones were to do HST,
he'd fail miserably SDing cos you're supposed to sit on ur ass the whole day
and order around people to get you stuff from the fridge.
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QUOTE(Syd G @ Aug 24 2007, 10:24 AM)
Erm. I dont know whether this makes sense or not. My honest advice? When you take a break from Madcow, you can rest your main muscles and do bodyweight conditioning.

You can start by doing a simple pushup 3x4-6 (if possible, 6.. else try at least 4). Strict form, military style.

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If your body is not conditioned enough you'll be having a tough time with it due to weak core (cant keep abs up), hip flexors (cant keep ur hip up) & hamstrings (cant keep ur knee super straight). Sometimes it's not even about your arm or chest strength. You can bench press 100kg but if your pushups suck, you're not strong. If you can do this, do other type of body conditioning. Such as training your core and balance.

Oh ya. Training your rectus abdominis is not equivalent to training your core. Ur abs is just a part of ur core. You dont need the damn belt if ur core is strong.

Tell me how it goes. I sure know conditioning did wonders to my body  smile.gif
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hmm.. u think i should be doing body conditioning after this saturday's workout or after week 12(if i can get through)/

mp push up is where u clap your hands when u go up right?
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No. Just normal pushing up. No need fancy clappings etc.

What important is you see yourself in the mirror @ teh side. Wayyy too many guys are doing it with sagging bodies like this

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or hips up like this

user posted image

The 2nd pic uses hip flexor strength to support weak core.

If you cant keep your body straight, hold a plank for 30 secs - 1 min
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Looks easy isnt it? It's so not.

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ooooooo straight body.. core exercise huh.. cool cool i'll try it out and add it into daily exercise lol
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Coolies. Then we can compete elbow planking brows.gif
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swt.. i have weak core.. dont bully me lol. my DL is 5 % from u ady syd lol
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Ermm attempting another DL next week. Hoping to reach 2x100kg pulak smile.gif
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100kg? i thought ur last DL is 90kg? 10kg increment? dangerous lol
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jones.. i think u're initial plan will work.. just rest the DL and continue with everything that u still feel good with.. if u wanna back off from squats, it's ok too.. if u feel u have lots of room for MP and becnh and row then go for it.. but i would advice a weeks rest after week 12.. at week 10, it's a good run.. so don't sweat it man.. biggrin.gif great progress already..
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yeah.. rest the bloody DL thats killing good enough i think lol. so i'll reset and see how week 12 goes.

thx for all of you guy's advice. will implement all of them thx thx notworthy.gif
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i found out why i'm suffereing. dave tate talks the talk

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T-Nation: Okay, so why squat in cycles?

Tate: One reason is because although the squat is one of the best exercises for mass, it's also one of the main exercises that people stick to way too long.

Let's say you hit an overtraining state. Diagnose that however you want: lack of progress, morning pulse rate, feeling like shit, whatever. If you're in that state and you're continuously putting a bar on your back, which is a load on your spine (and your spine is your central nervous system), then you're inhibiting your ability to recover from other training.

T-Nation: You know, a lot of hardcore people wouldn't think of not squatting for a period of weeks!

Tate: I think it's important. It's very apparent that there are times when you need to get the bar off your back. Every time I went through a phase where I took the bar off my back, my muscle hypertrophy increased significantly. Now, keep in mind the overtraining state was in effect, there were injuries in effect, and there was probably a year when I didn't have a bar off my back.

But I think that for every 12 to 16 weeks of squatting, you should go through a three week phase where you take the bar off your back. Now, with that three week break, I'm not saying you don't squat; maybe you use the belt squat, which we use a lot of. It's a belt squat machine that allows you to squat but there's no loading on your spine.

Also, when you're going through that phase, there are no good mornings or safety squat bar lifts either - no bar on your back whatsoever! What you're reduced to is a lot of glute-ham raises, a lot of hamstring and quad work, step-ups, lunges, and belt squats.

What you find is that your leg mass increases for two reasons. First, your body is able to begin recovery like it normally should. And second, you're using exercises that you probably haven't been using for the last 12 to 16 weeks.

T-Nation: Interesting stuff. Now, back in the day
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QUOTE(jones007 @ Aug 24 2007, 12:58 PM)
100kg? i thought ur last DL is 90kg? 10kg increment? dangerous lol
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Hmm cause last time that wasnt my real max. Havent hit the strength ceiling yet. I felt like I could DL heavier but I think that day my pre was substandard. So DLed another time. Then pancit no energy haha biggrin.gif

I'll be fine wink.gif
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hey read my post? i think its time for me to screw madcow nicely. lol

and also about the calves.

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Tate: No. It's a side effect of squatting heavy. Plus, a bigger guy is always going to have bigger calves. Look at your football coach. You've got your old lineman coaches with like 50 inch calves! It's just the nature of having the extra bodyweight - and walking around is going to develop that.

But the calves are partially responsible for supporting the knee. Just the nature of walking the weight out of the rack, squatting and pulling, you're training your calves.
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What you gonna do now, Jones?
Just becareful of point 5.

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5. You constantly fluctuate between lifts that have bad carry-over. Here is an example:

I have seen many times, and one I have done myself. The trainee burns out on benching and decides to do Hammer Strength Benches for a change. He makes the switch and is jazzed. His Hammer press is going up every week and he is stoked. After a time he has added 50 lbs to his Hammer bench and decides to go back and hit the bench, only to find it's up a whole 10 lbs!!!!!

That doesn't mean there is anything wrong with Hammer Benches. It just means that the lifts are dissimilar enough that an increase in one may not necessarily help increase the lift on another. Use of stabilizers and inter and intra-muscular coordination are two primary reasons, along with neural recruitment pattern gains that don't apply well to the other lift.

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Reading 2 pages back, I thought someone is bashing someone for screwing with some program? wink.gif
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QUOTE(Syd G @ Aug 24 2007, 03:36 PM)
Hmm cause last time that wasnt my real max. Havent hit the strength ceiling yet. I felt like I could DL heavier but I think that day my pre was substandard. So DLed another time. Then pancit no energy haha biggrin.gif

I'll be fine wink.gif
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haha... watch out Jones... Syd G is gonna overtake you in raw poundage soon, instead of just bodyweight %.
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QUOTE(King83 @ Aug 24 2007, 03:48 PM)
What you gonna do now, Jones?
Just becareful of point 5.
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i'm not gonna do leg presses to increase my squat. i'm just trying to maintain my strength. resting for 2 weeks doing nothing and eat only will definitely make me heavier, fatter, weaker.

QUOTE(Syd G @ Aug 24 2007, 03:48 PM)
Reading 2 pages back, I thought someone is bashing someone for screwing with some program? wink.gif
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i screwing the program with my condition unable to squat properly and for particular reasons. screwing the program for nothing is different
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Advanced Lifters:
After a while, linear progress doesn't work so well.  You want to do this for as long as you can.  And I mean, resetting and running at your records, changing some exercises, rep ranges, whatever, just keep trying to get some linear progress as you want to milk this kind of progression for all it's worth.  After a while it will become pretty obvious this doesn't work for you any more.  Welcome to periodization.
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Uh dun do leg pressies to subtitute squatting. Did that. Regretting it. Hamstrings lacking big time thus resulting in major inflexibility (harder to ATG, cant run properly etc). Unless you know how to leg press properly to stimulate hammies (use teh heel to press), I really wouldnt recommend it.
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resting a fortnight not necessary means reduce in strength.
It really depends on how well you manage ur diet while u're resting.

You are not 100% now... maybe only like 70% now.
Resting for 2 weeks (provided u don't do anything strenous) will allow
your muscles to fully recover. You could gain strength.

Just my 2 cents... it really depends on ur diet.
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I think we desperately need a chat thread
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QUOTE(King83 @ Aug 24 2007, 10:43 AM)
If Jones were to do HST,
he'd fail miserably SDing cos you're supposed to sit on ur ass the whole day
and order around people to get you stuff from the fridge.
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i realised i dont understnad this post lol

QUOTE(Syd G @ Aug 24 2007, 04:00 PM)
Uh dun do leg pressies to subtitute squatting. Did that. Regretting it. Hamstrings lacking big time thus resulting in major inflexibility (harder to ATG, cant run properly etc). Unless you know how to leg press properly to stimulate hammies (use teh heel to press), I really wouldnt recommend it.
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hmm.. cuz last time when i did leg pressies to substitue squat(back pain) i actually felt my hammies worked more then squatting. dont know why until now i still dont really feel my hammies working while squat. only deadlift give the hammies a bomb.

anyway i'm still thinking about this. i dont wana screw my back for no reason. think think think.
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QUOTE(Syd G @ Aug 24 2007, 04:06 PM)
I think we desperately need a chat thread
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we have a chat thread wurt brows.gif
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Erm Suddenly I feel too tired to type. Nvmlah. Go have a good rest la Jones.
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Yeah, learn how to be lazy like syd, jones laugh.gif ^
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QUOTE(Syd G @ Aug 24 2007, 04:19 PM)
Erm Suddenly I feel too tired to type. Nvmlah. Go have a good rest la Jones.
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swt wat u wana say. cakap only. help me ma lol

QUOTE(King83 @ Aug 24 2007, 04:28 PM)
Yeah, learn how to be lazy like syd, jones  laugh.gif  ^
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syd aint lazy. she DLs 155% BW and if 100kg success she DLs 180% i think
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something about mechanics of ATG squatting n below parallel and leg pressing using teh heel and leg's "ball" at teh front of teh foot. talk only hard la... must show .. maybe some other time

I is partly resting. Preparing for Ramadhan so was experimenting with things I can do at home since amma freezing mah membership. It's either DL now or DL after raya haha
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dl b4 raya.. after raya too long ady..
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QUOTE(jones007 @ Aug 24 2007, 03:23 PM)
i found out why i'm suffereing. dave tate talks the talk
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Sauce pls.... sad.gif
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did i hear somebody say sauce? cuz i think i heard somebody said sauce.
http://www.t-nation.com/readArticle.do?id=880036


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Regardless of what anyone says, if you're 6' 2" and weigh 165 pounds, you might pull okay but you're not going to squat worth a shit.


I think that explains why my deadlift is going to be almost double my squats lol biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(jones007 @ Aug 24 2007, 09:46 PM)
did i hear somebody say sauce? cuz i think i heard somebody said sauce.
http://www.t-nation.com/readArticle.do?id=880036
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Lolx , all sauce u get is from t-nation .

My dad thought I am watching porn when I reading the T-nation articles lar , blink.gif
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t nation is the best source of information for weightlifting in the internet. even bb.com sometimes is full of shit and their article sucks. tnation rocks dude.

testosterone, dangerously hardcore

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Week 10 day 3
25th Aug

Squat

warm up
2x8xbar

real sets
1x5x98
1x5x125
1x5x152
1x5x178
1x3x210
1x8x152

Bench

warm up
2x8xbar

real sets
1x5x75
1x5x95
1x5x115
1x5x136
1x3x160
1x8x115

Row

warm up
2x8xbar

real sets
1x5x75
1x5x95
1x5x115
1x5x136
1x3x160
1x8x115

Accessory

Weighted Dips
3x8x35

Incline DB curls
2x8x25
1x10x25

Skull crushers
3x12x20

Notes
1. squats was easy, bench was a killer, rows was peasy
2. tricep kinda kaput from killer bench, so dip form kinda went out of shape.
3. increased db curls. gotta increase the reps in sets.
4. finally crushers was easy. gonna add 5 lbs next session.
5. overally i think i can make it throught till week 12. may god bless me and flow some testosterone into me
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Why I wish you'd build a strong core first before moving on :




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after some time talking about core exercise with syd G the girl who will DL 100kg at 55kg bodyweight w00t! u guys should ashamed man.

gonna implement core exercise with plank variation everyday few times a day.

thx syd for the lesson on paul chek lol
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Week 11 day 1
28th Aug

Squat

warm up
2x8xbar

real sets
1x5x101
1x5x128
1x5x155
1x5x183
1x5x210

Bench

warm up
2x8xbar

real sets
1x5x77
1x5x97
1x5x118
1x5x139
1x5x160

Row

warm up
2x8xbar

real sets
1x5x77
1x5x97
1x5x118
1x5x139
1x5x160

Notes
1. squats was easy, but then i think i missed one rep, was concentrating too much on keep my chest out and keeping my form right lol
2. bench was killer again. row was easy
3. didn't do accessory workout. gonna do pre bed.
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QUOTE(jones007 @ Aug 27 2007, 08:12 PM)
after some time talking about core exercise with syd G the girl who will DL 100kg at 55kg bodyweight w00t! u guys should ashamed man.

gonna implement core exercise with plank variation everyday few times a day.

thx syd for the lesson on paul chek lol
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gonna implement core exercise with plank variation everyday few times a day.
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check dictionary for core, google for plank, check dictionary for variation and apply

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