Nowadays I only turn on my Ryzen PC when do heavy stuff or gaming. Intel for light usage.

Beta 6.43.4385.

Try update to 7.00 and see if any changes.

Just tried. No difference.

I also tried to load default at BIOS and use older BIOS at gigabyte support website to no avail.

if something is using your CPU, cores will not go to sleep,
i mean, no need to worry about too much.

If powerbill is your concern, set it to powersave mode and it will scale down to .9v
my profile was set to performance mode without any good reason... my pc never went sleep when idle until i changed to balanced power profile.

Power bill isn't an issue.

Just the stark contrast between my Zen 2 and Zen 3 behaviour make me feel anxious.

Is that your workstation or gaming pc? Try to reduce the amount of background process, don't let too much game client running on background.
Window 10 optimization or maybe the cpu scheduler need another fix, it's a shitty os anyway

Both.
Steam background is disabled. My system pretty much has nothing running.

Anyway, I got other issue to worry about.


120 Power On Hours with 3924GB total host write!?





Didn't I put all those source code stuff RAM drive?

cant really blame the OS when the problem is only experienced on ryzen lol. Besides, ryzen also have pretty high idle voltage and temps on linux as well.



This post has been edited by Bonchi: Mar 14 2021, 12:48 AM

Maybe some setting wrong? Can't be so much usage if all write to RAM drive.

If he daily shutdown the PC, and the ramdrive utility save the ramdrive state everyday = tons of write everyday lol

I tried to use hwinfo, it is just sucking the CPU power only polling the data every 2 second?...
Anyway unless Ryzen Master is bugged , my CPU only use 10w + 8w SoC, and running at 37c at idle. your reply become increasingly biased because you had bad experience with AMD.

AMD is way much smaller company compare to Intel, software wise much improvement is needed, and they are still hiring Linux software engineers, GPU department they are pretty well done already.


Also i work as lab instrument tester, i deal with Windows 10 everyday, occasionally linux machine too,
for me Windows 10 stability is a nightmare and slow as snail,
1. instrument that running linux is much more robust than Windows, i dont have to shutdown the linux powered instrument, sudden power loss on it has zero impact, while Windows counterpart will greet you with bluescreen, the only way to access it is reinstall Windows.
2. Windows defender realtime scanning, you can only turn if off temporary, the antimalware scanner will run everytime you execute some program.
i mean, the program does not even cache the scanned executable nor memorize the program im running everyday, i can make a coffee and back to my cell in time while i waiting the testing program ready to be used,
The windows antimalware scanner is just another power virus to me.
3. boot up time is another win for Linux, while a watered down Windows 10, a paid OS is booting 3 time slower on same hardware.

Mission critical OS dont use Windows servers, nobody want to use Windows on a life support instrument anyway.

How's Agesa 1.2.0.1 vs 1.2.0.0? my DH still on stock bios at BIOS 3003 i guess.



This post has been edited by sai86: Mar 14 2021, 05:39 AM

Ya, could be. Should not be saving the RAM drive state.
I also notice it's the C drive. Could also be the program he running use a lot of memory and he didn't disable paging files.

And the CPU temp at the same ambient temp makes me scratch my head. Does it not produce any heat at all during light workload and also not affected by other components heat?

FYI, I did all the fine tunings on my OS and cpu which made my ryzen idle at 7C above ambient but it is no where near to what intel can achieve out of the box. Just admit it. ryzen’s boosting algorithm is terribly inefficient and has nothing to do with which OS is being used.

If you work as a lab instrument tester, I work as an analyst who deals with win server and linux on a daily basis on operations critical systems and data warehouse. Whose job is also to test on server reliability. that’s why I sorta able to tell in-depth and point out some of AMD’s flaws and why it is fast because I know about machine architecture. If you think AMD is smooth on linux, you’re terribly naive lolol.

there’s nothing to be biased about here. when it has a problem, it has a problem no point defending. if you keep defending then AMD will not be bothered to solve any of their issues.. Just like it takes more than 1 year for AMD to acknowledge the USB dropping off problems which is also related to NVME and sata drive data packets gone missing/corrupt in high read/write server scenario.

So now we should voice out on the high idle temps and over aggressive and inefficient clock stepping so that AMD would solve this problem that had been around since zen+

and no, you’d be surprise how many more are using windows for mission critical stuff than other OS. that’s why billgates is so rich. it’s more to do on the failover procedures than OS being used. And of course... not windows 10 lol.

This post has been edited by Bonchi: Mar 14 2021, 09:11 AM

Ah crap, both of you are right.

Forgot to disable "Write to physical disk before shutdown".

There will always be fans defending AMD, no matter what. I betcha they already knew the USB thingy for a long time. Just that it's not on their priority list to fix it until now (so we acknowledge the issue u guys been talking about -for a year- and now it's time we fix it).
I betcha they already knew the actual cause of the random BSOD/ WHEA of Zen 3 cpu (particularly 5950x failures) , but kept silent on it.
There's also high possibility that fixing some of those issues will impaired the performance ; hence business wise it's unfix-able.

The excuses were pretty funny in the Bulldozer days though

JF-AMD

guys, i'm thinking want to upgrade my current pc intel i5-4440 to AMD ryzen 3600 + Asus TUF Gaming B550-PLUS WI-FI. Any recommendation on ram and hardisk? this is my first time use AMD, any issue that i need to look into it?

thx