5800x is really poor value here. Might as well top up that RM400 to go up to a 5900x or just get a 2nd hand 3900x instead.

I'm using this G.skill kit at the moment - https://shopee.com.my/G.SKILL-RAM-DESKTOP-D...6300.2777939939

Been running it at 3600mhz C15 with tuned sub-timings (FAST preset from Ryzen DRAM calc) for the last 8 months. Very stable and I'm sure it can be pushed further if I want to.

Samsung B-die. IMO it's equal to Micron RevE, theoretically even better because it can do 3600c14 with tuned sub timings below 1.5v. This works in Zen 2's favor since 3600mhz is about as high as you want to go anyway. Not all Zen 2 CPUs can get 3733 and maintain 1:1 IF.

Zen 3 perhaps would change that as we could be seeing the new "sweet spot" to be at 3800 or even 4000mhz, which is where Micron RevE has the advantage due to it being able to clock higher (usually) than Samsung B.

Interested in 2x8gb g skill 3600 c15 kit? Bought on newegg for 700 but never use haha.

Has anyone tried buying from amazon US? OK?

Try Newegg, amazon charges import tax for those that ship to Malaysia. Personally after the courier and tax charges, difference not much. Also shipment might take forever and custom might give you problem. For the warranty I would advise you buy local. Support local! LOL.

This whole debacle, you need to blame AMD. They simply do not have the capacity to meet the demands.

TSMC factory hit max capacity.

Forget X570 for ITX, no benefit other than the second m.2 being PCIE4.0.

Select B550 among the ASUS (with me), ASRock (Phantom) or Gigabyte B550(with me).

Gigabyte/ASRock both got great VRM but no USB-C for the Giga and a lousy BIOS on both.
ASRock and ASUS have Intel 2.5Gbe which is a bonus.
The ASUS (short of a USB ports as you noticed) on paper is inferior but the BIOS n tuning makes up for it. On Zen2 I liked this most.

It however remains to be seen how much love ASUS will give to it regarding Zen3.
They have a pretty bad history of maintaining older AM4 boards.

If you like to tinker with your CPU/RAM, the ASUS would be my favorite.
If you don't do that take the ASRock for USB-C + Intel Ethernet or the Gigabyte for the cheaper price tag.

Sounds like its safe to jump in with some nuances that need to be worked on.

Gotcha.
Which case are you thinking of getting? I've seen several builds with giga x570i with the c14s that fit fine but the case is the limitation, can't close top panel in the M1 for example.

I own two of these giga boards and they're alright. Never had to wrestle with it to get anything done. Oc/undervolt/fan/pump settings are straight forward, xmp sticks. Fan headers are limited but each header supports 24W which means you could power a ddc off one vs molex, not a big deal if you're thinking of doing air cooling though. The PCH fan is loud, but there's a BIOS update for that.

I've heard bad things about fusion, so might be best to avoid if you're into syncing rgb. I dont, so I just leave it the default orange.

This is all on ryzen 2 so I'm not sure if there's are issues with using ryzen 3.

why go back to R20?

asus b550 doesn't have as well. n I highly doubt asrock does. this is what fan controllers are for anyways.

Would try not to divert off from AMD discussions but whew... where is the intel thread lol.

will need to do alot of considerations atm... 10600 is also another good option given the power consumption is much lower.. but still cannot be compared with a ryzen 5600X. Which is what makes me still prioritizing ryzen. 

turns out itx boards for intel is a little scarce.. so i guess i'll just get the B550i cuz it's still the overall cheaper option.
Wonder if the B550 paired with a R3600 will have as many issues as the Zen3? or should it be just as stable as a B450.. and is pcbyte a reliable seller... they're selling the gigabyte boards RM100 cheaper than the rest.

Gigabyte seems to fit the nicest in the spec/budget and not expensive/overkill like the MSI and most importantly.... it’s not an asus

Why not just remove that block of metal haha but yeah that front usbC header may come useful for some people.

 
MSI components a lil overkill haha.... dont think it’s worth paying close to RM300 more... and seems like it has the weakest bios of the top3. Asus B550i have very stable memory OC .. better to even their atx x570 but the cpu boosts iinm loses out abit to the gaygaybird. However for those who plays 3D benchmark, asus is the best choice.

I'm also spoilt by that the amount of USB port on that board. Why did I even sell it 

Doing cable management soon? Btw which model is your b550.. I see that you made wise choice going b550 over x570 on ITX

wtf.....
i think motherboard PCB same as size as GPU PCB......
want to use GPU as motherboard instead? 

Ryzen 4000 APU spotted in PJ Digital Mall....
Coming Retail or they steal from OEM PC?

Ryzen Pro doesnt seem to be for Retail.....
Ryzen 3 4350G
Ryzen 7 4750G