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SSJBen
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Dec 16 2019, 04:36 PM
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This is not pirating, but use HWIDGEN lol.
The key is already yours, so just use HWIDGEN to re-activate when you switch to a different mobo+CPU. Nothing complicated. Just remember to flush all the previous drivers.
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SSJBen
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Dec 29 2019, 01:20 AM
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QUOTE(lolzcalvin @ Dec 29 2019, 01:03 AM) hey all, maybe it's already answered 10 times here already but is 3900x idling at 45-50 celsius normal? running cinebench R20 will heat it up to 75-80 celsius. Air cooling? Many people have it in the 50s and they live in much cooler countries than msia. If you're getting 45c, that's not bad at all and is rather normal.
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SSJBen
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Jan 2 2020, 04:59 PM
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Alright been using the 3900x for a week now, quite a happy camper here. Tuning memory is fun, haven't had this much focus on memory since the DDR2 days - quite a nostalgic feeling.
Stuck with AGESA 1003ABBA BIOS though due to some issues with PBO on 1004B. How are you guys doing with AGESA 1004B?
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SSJBen
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Jan 3 2020, 04:12 PM
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Seems to me that manual OC is better than PBO at the moment for most apps - as long as your silicon quality is decent.
I got 4.4ghz all cores @1.325v vs PBO doing 4.55 for 2 cores and all others being 4.1 @ voltages spiking to 1.48v. The manual OC is much, much cooler under max load too (70c vs 79c, on a Noctua D15s). PBO gets like a 100 points more over manual OC in cinebench R20 and extra ~3fps for 99th avg percentile in AC Odyssey.
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SSJBen
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Jan 3 2020, 04:29 PM
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QUOTE(lolzcalvin @ Jan 3 2020, 04:14 PM) i can do 4.4GHz 1.325v vcore voltage too. however I notice the VID will be around 1.1v. also, with this overclock above it'll run cinebench at 85c on my end. did you disable PBO when you overclock your chip? Yes, I disabled PBO.
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SSJBen
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Jan 3 2020, 06:40 PM
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QUOTE(lolzcalvin @ Jan 3 2020, 04:37 PM) my result when OCed to 4.4GHz @1.325v vcore, XFR and PBO disabled. idles at 46-55c, bit hotter than my usual stock multiplier with -0.1v offset vcore. runs up to 80c+ when loaded with cinebench r20.  Are you on 1usmus power plan? This post has been edited by SSJBen: Jan 3 2020, 06:41 PM
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SSJBen
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Jan 4 2020, 02:23 PM
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Turns out 4.4ghz @ 1.325v isn't 100% stable for me. Was encoding a video on handbrake and an error came up, eventhough it's minor. Turned it down to 4.25ghz @ 1.30v - brought down load temps to 65c and losing only 2% overall perf. Not a bad trade off I guess. EDIT* 1.325v isn't a magic number and it's NOT SAFE for Zen 2?This post has been edited by SSJBen: Jan 4 2020, 11:41 PM
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SSJBen
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Jan 6 2020, 04:47 PM
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QUOTE(lolzcalvin @ Jan 5 2020, 11:59 PM) my god, after 2 weeks of fiddling i finally found out the major reason my cpu always run hot and high VID voltages across cores during idle. it's the iCUE software. Very common issue it seems. Razer synapse 3 also consumes high CPU power and simply boosts your CPU clocks to the highest for no reason.
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SSJBen
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Jan 10 2020, 07:59 PM
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QUOTE(lolzcalvin @ Jan 9 2020, 12:53 AM) oof, closing both icue and synapse immediately drops my voltage to 0.85v.  There are some other bullshit softwares like Logitech G Hub, some of those dumb RGB syncing apps from Asus, Gigabyte, MSI, etc that also for whatever reason, ramps up CPU usage resource out of no where.
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SSJBen
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Jan 10 2020, 11:24 PM
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QUOTE(S4PH @ Jan 10 2020, 08:01 PM) these apps dont allow the inactive cores to sleep. Which is dumb. I understand if the apps are doing something when you're playing a game and syncing the RGB in accordance to what's happening on screen. But why are they running at 50% usage when just web browsing? Lol.
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SSJBen
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Jan 16 2020, 12:41 AM
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Idle voltage isn't your constant voltage. It can spike up and down, I've actually seen mine spike up to 1.51v just by searching for a file within windows explorer. At first I was alarmed as well, but since it's only for a few seconds and is a normal behavior as confirmed by AMD themselves, I've learnt to just live with it. This is what they said; QUOTE It is perfectly okay if your CPU is periodically using 1.4-1.5V to achieve boost frequencies, and you should see dips into sub-1.0V as the CPU goes into idle. These dips may be brief, and that's okay. Load voltages of around 1.2-1.3V are perfectly okay also. This is the processor working as expected. Ryzen is a highly dynamic system, with up to 1000 voltage and clockspeed changes every second. You will see a lot of bouncing around as you work with your system. Please note that it is totally normal for your Ryzen to use voltages in a range of 0.200V - 1.500V -- this is the factory operating range of the CPU. It is also totally normal for the temperature to cycle through 10°C swings as boost comes on and off. You will always see these characteristics, as they're intended, so do not be surprised to see such values. AMD Robert - https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/cbls9..._3rd_gen_ryzen/ This post has been edited by SSJBen: Jan 16 2020, 12:43 AM
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SSJBen
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Sep 2 2020, 01:58 PM
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QUOTE(edmund_yung @ Sep 2 2020, 11:56 AM) About what the RTX 3000 series is doing with SSD, does the X570 PCIE 4.0 will have an edge over B550's implementation? I know it is WAY too early to ask, but maybe some of you got any idea. Until proper NVME drives which makes full usage of PCIE4.0's bandwidth, then the difference isn't going to be day and night. DirectStorage will still work on PCIE 3.0 anyway, slower yes - but we're not talking HDD vs SSD kind of differentials.
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SSJBen
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Sep 22 2020, 08:29 PM
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I can't speak for other boards, but x570 on Asus has been a joke - specifically the Crosshair 8 ROG series. Any BIOS version above 1302 (which btw is 6 months old now) has stability issues. Random restarts even on idle, poor mem OC, cold boot errors, and basically worse CPU performance overall due to mediocre PBO. You can mitigate most of this with manual tuning, but that requires a lot of time and some bit of luck.
x570 has been out for over a year now and while Zen 3 will be on x570, I don't expect it to be as smooth sailing as AMD wants you to believe. People like to talk shit about intel being on an ancient architecture, but that ancient architecture means it's very mature and things... just work. AMD and Zen? Not so much.
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SSJBen
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Sep 23 2020, 01:08 AM
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QUOTE(TristanX @ Sep 22 2020, 08:41 PM) My Gigabyte X570 Aorus Master is rock stable with latest BIOS. UI is still very slow when you turn CSM off. That's nice to hear. I know both MSI and Gigabyte has stepped up their game with the latest ComboPI BIOS releases. Asus on the other hand... man.
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SSJBen
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Sep 23 2020, 01:10 AM
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QUOTE(FatalExe @ Sep 22 2020, 08:45 PM) I had Ryzen 3 1200 on a lowest end cheap Gigabyte B350M DS2 (the thing doesn't even have M.2 slots) , later upgraded that to R7 3700x on the same board, paired with 1070 Ti and had heavy VR usage everyday without issues Switched to Asrock B550M and everything still works like it did day 1 To be fair, the Crosshair 8 hero is rock solid stable as long as I don't go pass AGESA 1004. That means not updating to the latest ComboPI AGESA releases. It does mean I lose out on some of the latest features per CCX OCing options, which kinda sucks. This post has been edited by SSJBen: Sep 23 2020, 01:10 AM
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SSJBen
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Sep 28 2020, 12:27 AM
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QUOTE(linkinpark @ Sep 27 2020, 05:14 PM) Been using CH8 since last year Sept 23. From R5 3600 till last month upgrade R7 3700x. The only bios 2010 is the most unstable 1. Upgrade to 2206 since last month. I only use the PBO enable. So far didn't see any instability issue. To be honest 1001 was the best BIOS for me. Had the highest boost from PBO on stock, regularly hitting 4.6ghz which was then lost after moving to 1201. Also had the best memory OC from 1001, was hitting 1866mhz CL16 and other secondary tighten timings no problem. 1302 introduced cold boot issue. I had to raised VDDSOC up to 1.03v min for the cold boot issue to go away, but besides that 1302 is pretty good. From what I've scoured over at OCN, reddit and Asus ROG forum - BIOS 2xxx and above has been a mixed bag. Some people (like you) get stable results, many get random BSODs.
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SSJBen
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Sep 28 2020, 01:24 AM
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QUOTE(CyrusWong @ Sep 28 2020, 01:18 AM) I'm using Asus ROG Crosshair VIII Hero with 3950x for half year edi also experienced 2 times randomly forced restart and screen stay black changed new psu, bios reset, bios update, no overclock only ram XMP profile enabled i think this might be the instability of amd driver instead? no idea will continue use another half year and see how, worst case will try claim warranty for the motherboard Can you check your event viewer and see if the errors are "Event 41"? If it is, then the work-around band aid fix is this - https://www.overclock.net/threads/asus-rog-...6/post-28637692It's not AMD's chipset driver either. This issue has been around since the first 2xxx BIOS.
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SSJBen
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Sep 28 2020, 04:10 PM
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QUOTE(linkinpark @ Sep 28 2020, 04:05 PM) Yeah maybe i run most every setting on auto for PBO. Very rare to have any BSOD. For daily usage i mostly start my computer with PBO off. When i need more power for some task i than enable the PBO. Back in old day overclocking both 955BE and Fx8350 to get max performance. Then jump to 2600 then 3600 finally now 3700X for me it enough to get job done in time. Using Asus Crosshair V Formula-Z then Asus CH8 Hero. The only thing i hate is the temp when PBO is on. Sometimes 80celcius. Might go for der8auer ryzen oc bracket. You can always do a voltage offset, as much as -0.1v (I use -0.075v). Will run the CPU much cooler (I'm only peaking 72c now with cinebench 20) without going into clock stretching issues, also sustain boost clocks longer which gives you a higher boost average and thus better performance overall.
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SSJBen
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Sep 30 2020, 03:47 PM
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Yeah will try CTR this weekend.
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SSJBen
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Oct 2 2020, 03:38 PM
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QUOTE(wewdoto @ Oct 1 2020, 04:20 PM) Does anyone have any idea as to what the prices are looking like for the new Zen 3 processors? I was hoping to complete my new rig with a Ryzen 7 3700x but I'll wait for the new processors to come out before making a decision  You can't wait 1 week for an official announcement and rather listen to made up speculation from a forum?
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