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JohnLai
post Dec 10 2020, 12:10 PM

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QUOTE(Xirality @ Dec 10 2020, 11:22 AM)
Is 3950X still worth to buy at RM3150? Or better to wait 5950X to restock?
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Don't. Wait for 5000 series restock.

If you are gamer, there is 'unconfirmed' rumour that 3000 series can't exactly provide performance uplift through Resizable BAR.
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post Dec 12 2020, 08:29 PM

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QUOTE(Rhetoric @ Dec 12 2020, 08:09 PM)
Preach. fuck em scalpers. Even some reputable shop I heard going this route or at least controlling the stock. sad.
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They even pull "bundled only" crap.
Must buy whole set of RAM, Chassis, mainboard, GPU and PSU.

Cehhhhhh, not going to give my money to scalpers just for the CPU. dry.gif
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post Dec 20 2020, 08:37 PM

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QUOTE(Westley @ Dec 20 2020, 06:55 PM)
I can tell you that there's a number of first batch of 5950x not stable when boot with official bios, send rma and product still waiting till now to return. And I'm one of the buyer who is still awaiting the RMA.
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Well.....if you don't want your 5950x after RMA.......would you mind selling it to me? Assuming if I haven't got mine yet. brows.gif
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post Dec 21 2020, 03:05 PM

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QUOTE(TristanX @ Dec 21 2020, 03:01 PM)
Gloo is at Low Yat Plaza. Confirm legit.
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If only Gloo sell the Ryzen 5900x seperately..... sad.gif
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post Dec 21 2020, 03:12 PM

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QUOTE(TristanX @ Dec 21 2020, 03:10 PM)
Shortage, holiday season, shipping price went up.

Either you can wait patiently that could go for months or buy now, sell the mobo off.
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I rather wait.
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post Dec 25 2020, 07:45 PM

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QUOTE(John Chaser @ Dec 25 2020, 06:52 PM)
Time to kuburkam whatever plans of upgrade until 2022:
https://www.reuters.com/article/BigStory12/idUSKBN28Y12M
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Oh well, life goes on.
Gotta stick with current I5-3570K till the shortage is resolved. ~.~
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post Dec 25 2020, 07:53 PM

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QUOTE(Rhetoric @ Dec 25 2020, 07:50 PM)
Another "low class forum" thread inkambing. Price is crazy right now and its funny how they blame global pricing and problem for it and instantly raise price. But when global pricing actually go down, example 2080ti. It takes them few weeks and the actual brand to post on fb about price reduction before they themselves reduce the price.
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Funny part is, they got the CPU directly from official distributor at lower price than MSRP.

Global pricing = load of bullshit. They sourced the cpu from scalpers instead, is it? ranting.gif
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post Dec 25 2020, 08:30 PM

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QUOTE(EBBattlefield @ Dec 25 2020, 05:50 PM)
topkek....
I was wondering which cibai retail store dare sell 5600X at RM1999 laugh.gif
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RM1999? You havent seen the 5900x yet.

https://shopee.com.my/-PRE-ORDER-AMD-Ryzen-...7182.4061535331

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post Dec 27 2020, 08:16 PM

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QUOTE(llk @ Dec 27 2020, 07:17 PM)
Amazon 5800X re-stock, but estimated shipping time will be earlier of Mar 2021 laugh.gif
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Waiting for 5950x........
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post Dec 27 2020, 09:05 PM

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QUOTE(Vannus @ Dec 27 2020, 08:50 PM)
Good choice, go for the best flex.gif

Better than spending on fast epic ram and all the time doing OC. tongue.gif
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But there isn't any pre-order for 5950x at USD$799 amazon . Sigh....I don't mind paying the tax and shipping fee after seeing our retailers that bought from official distributors start to scalp.

On the RAM part, I had prepared budget 2 sets of Corsair 3600Mhz 16GBx2 18-22-22-48 for a total of 64GB.
Not planning to overclock it further.
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post Dec 28 2020, 08:31 PM

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QUOTE(fujkenasai @ Dec 28 2020, 08:29 PM)
i wonder when can we get the next batch...
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All sources = pointed to March/April 2021.

But realistic date would be end of December 2021.
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post Dec 28 2020, 09:17 PM

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QUOTE(fujkenasai @ Dec 28 2020, 09:10 PM)
by then rocket lakes are out. sad.gif
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Exactly, so we can finally buy it at "expensive" MSRP in the middle of next year.
Not much we can do.
I already stored my recently bought mainboard and RAM in the closet. yawn.gif

5900x and 5950x are rare breed. dry.gif

Unless someone here is willing to sell their CPU to us at proper price, which is very unlikely, it is time to relent.
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post Dec 29 2020, 05:18 PM

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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Dec 29 2020, 03:20 PM)
All I'm going to say is that the latest AGESA 1.1.9.0 V2 is finally making Zen 3 (well my 5900x at least) realize its potential. I'm finally able to boot at 4000mhz 1:1 IF.

Pretty sure Rocket Lake will rocket pass Zen 3 in single thread perf though, that much is a given. And too bad AMD decided to paper launch their CPUs and GPUs for 2020, so they're already on the losing ground if and when their products are readily available everyday next year.
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Hope Gigabyte gonna release bios with that 1.1.9.0 V2 too.

Plus, since Intel has doubled its production capacity for the last 3 years, I don't think there will be shortage of Intel Rocket Lake next year for scalper to take advantage. Not to mention there ain't nobody fighting for wafer production capacity unlike AMD+Nvidia+APPLE==>TSMC

After rocket lake, guess it is time for Intel to strike back similar to ancient Conroe/Core 2 vs Athlon64 X2 war.

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post Jan 9 2021, 08:56 PM

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QUOTE(sai86 @ Jan 9 2021, 08:46 PM)
6 more days to getting my rig bruce.gif

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Oh? What CPU model you buy?
Mainboard etc?
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post Jan 9 2021, 10:13 PM

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QUOTE(sai86 @ Jan 9 2021, 10:01 PM)
5900X, mobo choose the cheapest come with bundle x570 strix-F.
now i'm on the hunt for Asus Dark Hero but no stock at all come in SG for 2 straight weeks (may due to Asus recent pricing increase announcement for their line-up).
i may gave this up to get DH since PBO2 done the same thing as the Dynamic OC.  hmm.gif

and my 1st time got it from Aftershock in SG due to the stock shortage in SG compare to MY which is way worse. +3080 amp holo.
everyone in SG buying from taobao, newegg, amazon etc due to the scalper here.
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How much you spend on those CPU and Mainboard.

I was able to secure an 5950x.........with forced bundling of Gigabyte Aorus Master X570 rev 1.2 = Total RM 5000 --->Replacing I5-3570K

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post Jan 9 2021, 10:20 PM

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QUOTE(sai86 @ Jan 9 2021, 10:17 PM)
the price aint' retail as getting it from system builder, so its def mark up for their service and warranty for 3 years. sweat.gif

The below = SGD$3.9k x 3.0 = RM12k+-
Highlighted item will be replace.
WARRANTY (PREMIUM RANGE) : 3 Years Parts 3 Years Onsite Pickup and Delivery
Warranty
CHASSIS DESIGN (ULTRACORE) : Lian Li O11D XL (White)
CPU OPTIONS (ULTRACORE / EXPLORER) : AMD RYZEN 9 5900X | 4.8 GHZ | 12 Cores
24 Threads
MOTHERBOARD (ULTRACORE) : For AMD - ASUS ROG STRIX X570-F Gaming
GRAPHICS CARD (ULTRACORE) : ZOTAC RTX 3080 AMP Holo OC 10GB
THERMAL COMPOUND : Premium Enthusiast Grade Thermal Compound
RANDOM ACCESS MEMORY (Ultracore/Explorer) : 16GB KLEVV BOLT XR 3600mhz (
2X8GB )

CPU COOLING SYSTEM (Desktop) : WATERCOOLING : AFTERSHOCK Spectra Glacier
Mirror 240mm

Primary Solid State Drive (NVME | M.2 | DESKTOP) : 1TB SAMSUNG NVME SSD (R:
3500 | W: 3000)
Case Lighting : AFTERSHOCK SPECTRA Addressable RGB Chassis LED Lights
CHASSIS FANS : AFTERSHOCK S1 ARGB Fans X 6
CUSTOM CABLE SLEEVES : Black & Green Cable Sleeves
WIRELESS LAN (DESKTOP) : INTEL AX200 Wifi 6 + Bluetooth 5.0
POWER SUPPLY UNIT (Premium Range) : 750W Superflower Legion HX 80+ Gold
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Here mine though, a bit budget oriented ;

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CPU : 5950X
mobo : Gigabyte Aorus Master X570 Rev 1.2
RAM : 2 sets of Corsair DDR4 LPX 32Gb kits 3600Mhz CL18 = Total capacity 64GB (Hynix MJR, really, it is not MFR) = RM1250 total.
PSU : Seasonic 520W M12II (re-use)
GPU : Asus GTX970 Strix (re-use)
Casing : .........no branding?
Air cooling with CoolerMaster Hyper 212 Turbo (re-use)
SATA SSD Crucial MX500 1TB + Crucial P5 1TB NVME (OS drive) = both re-use


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post Jan 9 2021, 10:50 PM

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QUOTE(sai86 @ Jan 9 2021, 10:26 PM)
5950X aint budget oriented  laugh.gif and sweet mobo as well.
seeing 64gb of RAM you should be doing video editing etc stuff?
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Mostly thin client stuff only

Here a picture of the processor at the mainboard socket prior to coolermaster 212 turbo installation.
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post Jan 9 2021, 11:02 PM

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QUOTE(sai86 @ Jan 9 2021, 10:54 PM)
sweet!!  wub.gif how's the temp under the 212?
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........99'C and throttling to base clock of 3.4Ghz when all cores utilized during AVX2 operation. At least 212 Turbo is silent enough? ohmy.gif

The rest of time such as gaming or non AVX2 operation, no problem = Can auto reach 4.4 - 4.6 Ghz on all cores just fine around 92'C - 95'C.

CPU is idling at 53'C.
CPU VDD maxed at 1.463V
CPU Vcore maxed at 1.428V.
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post Jan 10 2021, 09:10 AM

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QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Jan 10 2021, 12:29 AM)
tristanX talk about luck wei

105w cpu die to 150w cooler?? actually the da turbo version which is higher rated..

so da 5950x not running 105w.. suprise suprise.

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Can lah, as long as it can be used and no weird issue happening. nod.gif

QUOTE(TristanX @ Jan 10 2021, 12:48 AM)
lol putting 16 core CPU on Hyper 212 Turbo. Throttling is expected.

Invest on 360mm AIO.
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Kinda worry on using water cooling due to leaking possibility.
Instead, I shall let the CPU to throttle itself accordingly.
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post Jan 10 2021, 09:56 AM

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QUOTE(Bonchi @ Jan 10 2021, 09:46 AM)
it’s not healty for the cpu. you dont want a RM 3k+ cpu to die in 2 years or maybe even 1 year right.. better invest in a better air cooler.
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QUOTE(TristanX @ Jan 10 2021, 09:48 AM)
I used 2 AIO. None of them leaking so far.

Get the best you can get. Noctua NH-D15 or Deepcool Assassin III. Watch out for clearance on your casing though.
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Will consider the cpu cooler replacement nod.gif .
Have to wait till end of this year for the bonus.
For time being, I have to stick with current cooling solution as my allocated budget almost empty.

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