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post Dec 30 2019, 03:02 AM

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CES 2020
Zen 4000G APU biggrin.gif
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post Apr 26 2020, 05:04 PM

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QUOTE(XiuKeong @ Apr 25 2020, 03:44 PM)
New parts arrived for my upgrade.
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why RAM colour not the same laugh.gif
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post Apr 26 2020, 05:18 PM

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QUOTE(XiuKeong @ Apr 26 2020, 05:12 PM)
White sold out everywhere, end up getting an actual black ram with white lighting enhancement kit
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why not both white or both black? laugh.gif
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post Apr 27 2020, 07:04 AM

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QUOTE(pandera999 @ Apr 27 2020, 03:11 AM)
Just want to know... Upgrading from ryz5 3600  to ryz 7 3700x, need freshly install OS? 🤔
Thinking want upgrading proc.. else.. gonna sdd ram
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with windows 10, some say even upgrading between chipset and generation, eg i7-4700 to i7-8600 also dont need to fresh install windows.....
some would even say changing proc from AMD to intel also no needd......

if you old school, just do it.
if not, shoudlnt be a problem, especially since change CPU not as major as chipset or CPU brand change
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post Apr 27 2020, 03:49 PM

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QUOTE(pandera999 @ Apr 27 2020, 10:27 AM)

haha... planning... i read somewhere back then, AM4 socket support was only promised until 2020 only, which means new board for new ryzen 4700x will be different.

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IMO, AM5 will be DDR5 which will be 2021 production, thus 2022 launch or mass availability.
Dont think AMD will be launching new socket this close to new RAM launch.

Can have PCi-E 5.0, DDR5, AM5, Ryzen 5000, Radeon RX580XT all on same year..... owai
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post Apr 27 2020, 07:50 PM

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QUOTE(KTCY @ Apr 27 2020, 07:41 PM)
HI guys. I'm very new to AMD processor tbh. been using intel for my whole life laugh.gif

I'm thinking to setup a new PC using 3960X. what's the recommended MOBO ? i've gone through several MOBO i.e Asus & MSI, can't tell much the different for the top range one.
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I just go by these steps when picking motherboards:

0. Price
1. number of USB ports I need
2. number of SATA ports I need
3. number of RAM slots I need
4. number of PCIE slots I need
5. kaler tongue.gif

you can go on with the build quality vrm etc, but i dont think most users OC enough to need to worry about those.
those information however, can get via reviews
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post May 3 2020, 10:53 PM

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QUOTE(moiskyrie @ May 3 2020, 07:33 PM)
Want to ask,
2200g,2400g,3200g and 3400g,
Which cheaper and better?
Want keep cost down....
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you have two contradictory statements....
you want cheap and better.....

If you want cheap, dont have to ask here... just buy the cheapest of the 4 options from any shops.
As for the differences, R5 APU has SMT, R3 APU doesnt.
It's like buying an i5 or i7 in the good old days.
This is in addition to the better GPU performance on the R5.


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post May 3 2020, 11:59 PM

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QUOTE(moiskyrie @ May 3 2020, 11:48 PM)
so 2400g or 3400g any different?
plan to replace my current pentium rig which MB have sata port problem...
as current market no stock for asrock MB, asus/gigabyte b450 MB ok?
future may upgrade the cpu to R5.
the a320 MB can support 3000 series cpu?
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As long as AM4, can support up to 4000 series CPU.
2400G and 3400G is difference in IGP performance and CPU performance.
3400G is newer and has better CPU/GPU performance.
They are otherwise the same 4 core 8 thread chip.

As for whether A320 motherboard can support 3000 series CPU,
I think you should just go for B450 or wait for B550. price difference less than RM50.
aside from PCI-E support (mainly for discrete graphics and NvME SSD later), newer chipset will have better compatibility guarantee with future CPU too.

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post May 4 2020, 08:54 PM

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QUOTE(viruz @ May 4 2020, 08:46 PM)
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Could be due to stock cooler, even on browsing and some tasks running, it is sitting at around 50C, but look at other like System, MOS, PCH (no idea what is this), all looks normal?
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You can go bios to set lower target temperature and more aggressive fan profile.
I am running a Hyper 212 on an ancient sandy, I get the same temperature at idle at room temperature no aircon also
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post May 5 2020, 08:50 AM

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QUOTE(viruz @ May 5 2020, 12:20 AM)
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When set to extreme performance, it almost hit boiling point, I run for few sec  then stop, scare my brand new CPU will burnt.
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should go beyond 90 though......
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new paste, 100% fan profiel etc tested?
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post May 9 2020, 02:51 PM

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QUOTE(AMDAthlon @ May 9 2020, 01:40 PM)
I guess so but if the reason is due to bios chip thing, mobo manufacturer can always say the bios is only for xx gen like they already did now (bristol ridge cpu not supported..etc).
Fingers crossed on that one, but based on HWUnboxed, AMD wouldnt give AGESA for Zen 3 unlike with Zen2 where selective BIOS update is available for older chipset. sweat.gif
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IMO, true reason is manufacturer.

Although manufacturer can do anything they want, the manufacturers can also do whatever they want..... sweat.gif
The last and most controversial incident like this was AMD's shitty 5600XT launch.

As original spec was designed to fight GTX1650, thus hardware was only required to perform as such, most manufacturers cheaped out and made the bare minimum to support that. Then AMD got sked and wanted to bios boost to fight gtX1650 Super with the same chip.
Even though GPU could fight, all other supporting components like VRM, RAM etc might not able to keep up to new performance requirements.
That lead to lots of big opps......

Spin that the other way around, which would reflect AMD's rationale on the motherboard supports laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
CPU end, sked partners screw them
GPU end, screw partners over. laugh.gif
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post May 9 2020, 03:01 PM

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QUOTE(chocobo7779 @ May 9 2020, 02:53 PM)
1650 or 1660? sweat.gif

Yeah, the launch of the 5600 XT is a disaster and even caused confusion between AIBs sweat.gif

IMHO AMD really needs a better product strategy and communication between OEMs and hardware partners.  Their tone deaf and flip flopping approach of handling their partners is going to hurt them in the long run, IMHO wink.gif
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i dont know....I dont remember 1650 or 1660 sweat.gif
next gen Nvidia will be RTX3080Ti, RTX2660 Super and GTX1770 tongue.gif

IMO, CPU side, they're not pulling funny stunts like that.
CPU side also, I dont see anything wrong with them not officially supporting, but also not completely blocking OEM partners from supporting even up to 16Cores on A320 as the socket is still the same between 3950X and 1300X.

Honestly, I prefer guarantee from manufacturer than AMD as people like Asus and MSI are the ones truly responsible for keeping your system alive and supported when Windows 12 launched in 2030 anyway laugh.gif
Like even if Intel support Core2 on Windows 7 and 10, you'd still get screwed if Gigabyte doesnt give you the drivers to run audio off your ancient motherboard laugh.gif

To be fair, we all know B550, X670 and perhaps a X650 will be the last AM4 boards since AM5 will be launching in 2021 with AM5 Socket, DDR5 Ram, PCI-E 5.0, AMD Ryzen R5-5600X.
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post May 10 2020, 09:56 AM

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QUOTE(edmund_yung @ May 10 2020, 12:10 AM)
Or AMD just wanted some more cheap publicity be it a lil' negative because Intel launches 10th gen + chipset but AMD only launch a low end Zen 2 CPU. Later they also play the U-turn game and support Zen 3 on B450, and many people will be thankful.
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1. AMD cheapo Ryzen 3 can beat Intel Core i7 and i5 in gaming already publicity to pee on Intel 10th Gen
2. Technically AMD does not support 3950X on X470 chipset also, but I see almost all boards released has the CPU on support list
3. probably someone asked, so they explained. No need play U turn card, since even X370 can support up to Zen2 R7-3000 as of now depending on manufacturer.
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post May 11 2020, 12:35 AM

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QUOTE(1024kbps @ May 11 2020, 12:31 AM)
You probably means X370, but even the lowly A320 ITX board support 3950x support https://www.asus.com/Motherboards/PRIME-A32...K/HelpDesk_CPU/
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got money buy 3950X, dont have money for at least X470 or B450 motherboard? laugh.gif
Like buying Ferarri, but use 2nd hand tire.
each time punctured, must patch, not change tyre laugh.gif
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post May 11 2020, 11:08 PM

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QUOTE(jamilselamat @ May 11 2020, 10:59 PM)
So I guess my new 3700X build on the B450 board is already on its way to becoming obsolete?

I thought my emotions would be less fragile than this; I went against Gamer's Nexus' suggestion to avoid the 'jack of all trades, master of none' approach because I want to be able to do a lot of things with my PC, not just gaming or just working.

Besides, the new AMD chipset might not be here until 2022, so that's still plenty of time, but... sigh...
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u sudah beli, u keep saja....
likely if you have bought higher end B450, manufacturer will deliver bios update to support Ryzen 4000 provided that you even consider upgrading in the first place.....

I dont get why there's no such huha when Ryzen 3000 launched and was not officially supported on B350 and A320 as well....
here we are today with B450 boards that can support 3950X.

2022 will be AM5 launch.
2020 will be last AM4 launch with B550, X670 and possibly B650.
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post May 17 2020, 02:25 PM

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QUOTE(viruz @ May 17 2020, 01:59 PM)
I have fix the problem for now, by disconnecting primary fan and connect secondary fan directly to the GPU board header, the fan works normally now.
So I think the fault is on the Y-cable at primary fan. I might look for fan replacement though.

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why not splice the cable instead? hmm.gif
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post May 17 2020, 03:12 PM

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QUOTE(mattsynyster @ May 17 2020, 02:30 PM)
Guys what's the viable ryzen upgrade form 15-6600k skylake? im looking at ryzen 7 3700x,
i only use it for gaming or maybe premier pro editing in the future,
is it too overkill, or ryzen 5 3600x is going to get the job done
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No premier, no worth upgrading.
Even an i7-2600K is still a capable CPU for gaming.
Unless you are running a GTX2080Ti, really wont be much difference with a 6600K or 3700X
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post May 18 2020, 07:55 PM

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QUOTE(nrw @ May 18 2020, 12:03 PM)
before others are getting the wrong idea. "4k" apu aka renoir is still based on zen2 "3k" though.
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kecian Ryzen 1000 era APU is Bulldozer
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post May 18 2020, 11:23 PM

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QUOTE(sHawTY @ May 18 2020, 08:16 PM)
Should I switch my 2950x to 3950x now or wait for Ryzen 4K + X670?
Not using multi GPU anymore & lots of X570 boards nowadays carry 3xM.2 NVMe slot so Threadripper is no longer necessary
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who you wanna sell your big socket to?
aside from saving power, what are you gonna accomplished by going from 2950X to 3950x?
TNB kan ada discount during MCO tongue.gif
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post May 19 2020, 08:26 PM

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QUOTE(TristanX @ May 19 2020, 07:26 PM)
Dual channel RAM is not an issue. You can just upgrade it.

It will be nice if there is higher GPU parts for Ryzen 5 4600H.
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cannot upgrade if laptop literally got one slot and it's used up tongue.gif
or OEM give 2 slots, but both same channel tongue.gif

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