Just got a 3600 and a MSI B450 ITX gaming plus. flash bios, pop it in and runs stable out of the box. XMP loads fine too with the weird looking triangular adata xpg rams. Got a scare while reading reddit that many people having issues booting with a ryzen 3rd gen on a B450.

the shop helped to flash with their ryzen 1600 (because i dont have any old ryzens) and on first boot with the 3600, it took like 5 cycles and i guess the mobo cleared the CMOS on its own then everything is fine after that.

I have not tried OC-ing mine and i dont think i will ... because of thermals in an itx, but so far everything is good but the zen 2 runs up to 85C on full load prime95 using a noct NH-L9. This is my first ryzen so i dont know what to expect haha.

functionality depends. altho it is mainly to fit into smaller casings but some features are definitely sacrificed to fit the size. Small casings like mine for example.



This post has been edited by Bonchi: Jul 16 2019, 10:37 AM

May i know what's the AMD chipset driver for? im currently running without it (first time using RYZEN)

I see... so mainly it's for that ryzen power plan thingy and if my PC is running stable, i dont really need it. Altho i do see that there's AMD PCI which is an unknown device but it doesnt seem to affect anything hmmm.

Thanks guys

now cant wait for MSI to have a stable BIOS release for my mobo altho it is already running pretty stable at the moment.. did 4 hours of prime95 on R3600, 2X8GB 3000Mhz Rams and a MSI B450 ITX with PBO.

now waiting for the gigabyte GTX1070 mini to arrive to complete the build... and then i will play around with some RAM OC to make it 3200Mhz.

This post has been edited by Bonchi: Jul 17 2019, 12:00 PM

Thanks. i think i will follow what kingking did and install the drivers one by one instead. Since it's R3000 and still on a beta bios. Scared something will go wrong

just did the installation and nothing's seems to be changed (which is good)

so far this MSI B450 ITX Gaming Plus has been pretty stable with the R3600 So far. VRM temps are pretty good too (running at stock) with very limited airflow in a small casing.

i upgraded to 3600 from a 3rd gen i5 *cough* and damn the gap is big but booting up and opening apps, my mac is still faster *cough* sarcasm *cough*

quite alot of them upgraded from an existing setup with a previous gen and did not restore the bios settings to default before flashing and swapping the cpu. (resetting the cmos solved their problem)

while those who bought new b450/x470 used the bios flashback feature before even tried booting on a previous gen ryzen first to see if their parts like ram, gpu, nvme are compatible.

and many also a-xmp their ram especially to 3600 on a b450/x470 which is known to not be very stable... but they are expecting it to work instead of reducing to 3200mhz for example.

just adjust the fan curve to run constant between 30-65C. ayam noticed that it will spike when it goes into boost which will trigger the fan.

alternatively like me... i've swapped the cooler to a noctua and i just let it to spin freely as even at 100% it is pretty quiet

a little bit regretted not going for the 3700X and went for the 3600 worrying my itx setup cannot tahan the cores, power consumption and thermals but apparently it can.

This post has been edited by Bonchi: Jul 25 2019, 01:27 PM

im on an ITX so im using the NH-L9A-AM4 on the R3600

idles at 45-50C with the spikes and synthetic loads at 80C but will auto reduce to the clock and remain constant at 75C on 3.98Ghz.

On gaming and daily usage it never goes more than 70.

almost all the well established shops in plaza lowyat can help you flash the mobo to the supported bios for free or sometimes with a small fee if you ask. So no worries there.


Recently flashed my MSI to the "stable" agesa 1.0.0.3AB. CPU now can sustain the advertised boost clock almost permanently but damn.. my 3000mhz ram now cant boot with 3200mhz OC at 1.35v. And MSI had removed that beta 1.0.0.3A bios from their site which can run 3200mhz stable

that was the ABA. this is the AB which supposedly the stable one with the raid and pci-e running on 8x fix. (stupid naming scheme)

i only have the R3600 and it loads at 75C on a tiny noctua NL9A

This post has been edited by Bonchi: Jul 27 2019, 01:02 AM

1) better cpu cooler
2) casing’s airflow/ventilation

especially those tempered glass casing can get pretty warm inside as it traps alot of hot air.

for me, my cpu cooler is taking in fresh air directly from the side of the casing and has one exhaust fan to suck the air out of the casing directly beside it. thus able to get low temps.

This post has been edited by Bonchi: Jul 27 2019, 04:13 PM

if im not mistaken, water cooling dont react to temperature spikes as quickly as air cooling so youd see those temp readings on idle. While on air, for my case it will spike up to 50-60 and immediately go back down to 40s in less than a second.

AMD said it's due to observer effect that the voltages are high.. due to monitoring tools keep triggering the processor to boost.

While from my own observation, applications running on the background such as steam and geforce experience, and even music players will periodically trigger the boost as well. Turning all of those apps off and my vcore will be down to 0.5-0.8v. Im Using ryzen balanced power plan.

dont get me wrong, liquid indeed conducts better than air. what i meant is that it doesnt handle temp fluctuations as quickly as air cooling. but the overall performance especially when it comes to full load no doubt liquid is better. so on air i would see a repeating fluctuation of 40-60C while on liquid youd see a constant 45C maybe.

and yeah. the second part is what i observed and thus turning everything off solves the issues but that is just stupid.

orly? im just following thermodynamic principles haha. using copper heatpipes vs liquid in tubes as the conducting element. i did not play WC on the ryzen before but this is what i observed from my intel rig last time, the temps wont suddenly drop down as quick as air once you got off high load stress runs.

i suppose the scientific explanation is that water dont change temps as fast as air does. and the temp reading is affected by the residual heat in the entire loop itself.


depends on the apps running really.. with steam on and doing absolutely nothing then only it’s jumping 0.8 to 1.2v. with chrome browsing then i indeed see 1.4v spikes. but i guess im ok as long as it averages out at 40C.. as a first time ryzen user, i just assuming how it is meant to perform so did not realize there’s something wrong with it. temps aside.. i always see the cores kinda stuck at 3.9-4.2ghz which becomes my concern.

This post has been edited by Bonchi: Jul 29 2019, 07:43 PM

well if you look into thermodynamics + fluid, everything is technically being treated like liquid

or you can get those boards with the flash button feature. also watch out on mobo like msi for example when using the bootkit. the athlon wont be supported by the 3000 bios.. so not sure how it will behave when flashing.

If you buy directly from shops like Sri Comp/Viewnet/C-zone, i believe they can help flash for you FOC after making the payment.. i had mine flashed by sri comp last time.

other than that, go for those mobo with flashback features where you can flash with just a usb stick.