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 EcoMajestic @ Semenyih (VERSION 13A!), Gentlebre & Cradleton VP-ing soon...

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post Nov 16 2016, 03:59 PM, updated 9y ago

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Yo! So fast we are now in Version 13A!!! Keep it up with the "intensed" yet constructive discussion. Lol.
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Past versions
Version 1: https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3032037

Version 2: https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3225126

Version 3: https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3239458

Version 4: https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3283839

Version 5: https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3317220

Version 6: https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3391692

Version 7: https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3453219

Version 8: https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3641781

Version 9: https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3750707

Version 10:
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3823684

Version 11:
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3924867

Version 12:
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/4021066

Version 13:
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/4079775

Eco Majestic Events in 2015
Video: One Year At Eco Majestic

Eco Majestic Show Village Launching
Video: Launch of Show Village @ Eco Majestic

Eco Majestic Official Facebook
Official Facebook of Eco Majestic

Website
Official Website of Eco Majestic

EcoWorld Gallery at Eco Majestic
1) Waze location:
https://waze.to/lr/hw282t6hw2

2) Google location:
http://goo.gl/maps/9tFwj

3) GPS Coordinates:
N 2° 54’ 47.6" E 101° 50’ 17.8"

4) Address / Contact:
1, Lingkaran Eco Majestic, Eco Majestic, 43500 Semenyih, Selangor.
Tel: 03-8723 2255

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QUOTE(samkps @ Nov 16 2016, 04:01 PM)
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I want to edit my earlier post also can't le.
Haha...
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QUOTE(samkps @ Nov 16 2016, 04:01 PM)
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...and new debates... oops! Lol.
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QUOTE(Diver Lim @ Nov 16 2016, 04:02 PM)
I want to edit my earlier post also can't le.
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Soli boss, mind copy paste and edit here?
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Everyone needs to say "wooosah" in this thread...

p.s Reference from Bad Boys II movie. Lol
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'Intensed' lol...Heightened intensity as the VP date draws nearer
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QUOTE(Jasoncat @ Nov 16 2016, 04:03 PM)
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QUOTE(Jasoncat @ Nov 16 2016, 04:03 PM)
Soli boss, mind copy paste and edit here?
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If they already know Cradleton are less strategy even with similar products nearby. Why don't they do.better on others part? Obviously slope is not the only concern and i.believe we have pass this question long time ago since we also know nothing can change anymore.

Smaller our request to backlane and trees... Gone...
Entrance tar road we know too much to ask, so we pass also.

Now even smaller to Grass only.

Are we really asking too much?

*i am also interested to see who are the nearby reliable developement have worse slope conditions than Cradleton. With staircase rooftop and deep steeps and waterfall at front.
0.5m Every two houses.

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QUOTE(Diver Lim @ Nov 16 2016, 04:07 PM)
If they already know Cradleton are less strategy even with similar products nearby. Why don't they do.better on others part? Obviously slope is not the only concern and i.believe we have pass this question long time ago since we also know nothing can change anymore.

Smaller our request to backlane and trees... Gone...
Entrance tar road we know too much to ask, so we pass also.

Now even smaller to Grass only.

Are we really asking too much?

*i am also interested to see who are the nearby reliable developement have worse slope conditions than Cradleton. With staircase rooftop and deep steeps and waterfall at front.
Every two houses.
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Goodview Heights has quite severe drops. Just pointing it out, don't shoot me. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(8sg9ft @ Nov 16 2016, 04:10 PM)
Goodview Heights has quite severe drops. Just pointing it out, don't shoot me.  biggrin.gif
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Th asks for pointing out.
I am interested to see, would you happen to have images?

Better if have more projects from reliable developers to compare.

I want to get updates by what are the standard nowadays.
Just like many older investors need to understand 500sq ft condo.

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QUOTE(Diver Lim @ Nov 16 2016, 04:07 PM)
If they already know Cradleton are less strategy even with similar products nearby. Why don't they do.better on others part? Obviously slope is not the only concern and i.believe we have pass this question long time ago since we also know nothing can change anymore.

Smaller our request to backlane and trees... Gone...
Entrance tar road we know too much to ask, so we pass also.

Now even smaller to Grass only.

Are we really asking too much?

*i am also interested to see who are the nearby reliable developement have worse slope conditions than Cradleton. With staircase rooftop and deep steeps and waterfall at front.
0.5m Every two houses.
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Penduline @ Rimbayu IJM also has slope issue, every 4 houses (if not mistaken) will drop 1 feet
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QUOTE(Diver Lim @ Nov 16 2016, 04:07 PM)
If they already know Cradleton are less strategy even with similar products nearby. Why don't they do.better on others part? Obviously slope is not the only concern and i.believe we have pass this question long time ago since we also know nothing can change anymore.

Smaller our request to backlane and trees... Gone...
Entrance tar road we know too much to ask, so we pass also.

Now even smaller to Grass only.

Are we really asking too much?

*i am also interested to see who are the nearby reliable developement have worse slope conditions than Cradleton. With staircase rooftop and deep steeps and waterfall at front.
0.5m Every two houses.
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No solution to all these problems from EM side. Buyers are expected to accept whatever vp to us.
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QUOTE(ykc @ Nov 16 2016, 04:15 PM)
Penduline @ Rimbayu IJM also has slope issue, every 4 houses (if not mistaken) will drop 1 feet
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I been to first few phase..don't remember I see bad slope as you mentioned. Are that the first few phase?

Have image to compare.

Please don't misunderstand me, I am not challanging you. Just interested to see.

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QUOTE(8sg9ft @ Nov 16 2016, 04:10 PM)
Goodview Heights has quite severe drops. Just pointing it out, don't shoot me.  biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Diver Lim @ Nov 16 2016, 04:14 PM)
Th asks for pointing out.
I am interested to see, would you happen to have images?

Better if have more projects from reliable developers to compare.

I want to get updates by what are the standard nowadays.
Just like many older investors need to understand 500sq ft condo.
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Yeah, when look at the walk-up apartment it is very obvious. I think I shared it before in previous version.

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QUOTE(mamaky @ Nov 16 2016, 04:16 PM)
No solution to all these  problems from EM side.  Buyers are expected to accept whatever vp to us.
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most likely...unless there is miracle happen.
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QUOTE(Jasoncat @ Nov 16 2016, 04:19 PM)
Yeah, when ook at the walk-up apartment it is very obvious.  I think I shared it before in previous thread.
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Is it the one I thought is Sungai Long project?
If yes, no staircase rooftop, no waterfall front house.
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QUOTE(Jasoncat @ Nov 16 2016, 04:19 PM)
Yeah, when look at the walk-up apartment it is very obvious.  I think I shared it before in previous version.
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That's why we are here.
I might sound like an asshole here that everybody doesn't like me.

But if in the end, we manage to get any better for the questions I been raising over the time... I don't mind to be an asshole now.
If nobody raise up anything from very beginning. They would assume.everything are fine for buyers.

Even few years later everyone passby and said this is asshole lim house.

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QUOTE(Diver Lim @ Nov 16 2016, 04:21 PM)
Is it the one I thought is Sungai Long project?
If yes, no staircase rooftop, no waterfall front house.
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I don't remember which one that you thought otherwise.
Anyway, so long as there is slope, the water shall flow down.
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QUOTE(Diver Lim @ Nov 16 2016, 04:14 PM)
Th asks for pointing out.
I am interested to see, would you happen to have images?

Better if have more projects from reliable developers to compare.

I want to get updates by what are the standard nowadays.
Just like many older investors need to understand 500sq ft condo.
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https://www.propsocial.my/classified/103608...nt-by-danny-hon

http://www.propertyguru.com.my/property-li...n-liew-22152293

Apologies...I just post links for u to see it ya..faster way biggrin.gif

QUOTE(ykc @ Nov 16 2016, 04:15 PM)
Penduline @ Rimbayu IJM also has slope issue, every 4 houses (if not mistaken) will drop 1 feet
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Yes, true..first 2 parcels of the precinct generally very flat but the subsequent 2 parcels of the same precinct is built on sloping terrain. But yeah, every 4 units then only drop
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QUOTE(Diver Lim @ Nov 16 2016, 04:24 PM)
That's why we are here.
I might sound like an asshole here that everybody doesn't like me.

But if in the end, we manage to get any better for the questions I been raising over the time... I don't mind to be an asshole now.
If nobody raise up anything from very beginning. They would assume.everything are fine for buyers.

Even few years later everyone passby and said this is asshole lim house.
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don't worry ...everyone likes an axx hole especially a bad axx...... icon_rolleyes.gif
as u r just fighting and gathering evidence to fight wth the great TITAN...good luck from all of us...

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QUOTE(Jasoncat @ Nov 16 2016, 04:25 PM)
I don't remember which one that you thought otherwise.
Anyway, so long as there is slope, the water shall flow down.
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The waterfall I mean is the huge steep at front that you would have water fall in front of your house when heavy rain.

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QUOTE(Diver Lim @ Nov 16 2016, 04:19 PM)
I been to first few phase..don't remember I see bad slope as you mentioned. Are that the first few phase?

Have image to compare.

Please don't misunderstand me, I am not challanging you. Just interested to see.
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im not sure which phase is that, the SA told me that when we were looking at site plan of model house below. There is a white line on the model house roof, indicating 1 foot drop. That time he was referring to the houses at the red circle in the pic.


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QUOTE(Diver Lim @ Nov 16 2016, 04:28 PM)
The waterfall I mean is the huge steep at front that you would have water fall in front of your house when heavy rain.

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may not be waterfall..as u can see the cement slope has drains on them...so water will flow and go down the drain ....see clearly and u can notice the drain cement cover on the slope concrete...also water will b absord by the tree and soil next to the front wall.....
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QUOTE(ykc @ Nov 16 2016, 04:30 PM)
im not sure which phase is that, the SA told me that when we were looking at site plan of model house below. There is a white line on the model house roof, indicating 1 foot drop. That time he was referring to the houses at the red circle in the pic.
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wooh...that is a responsible developer as usually they just keep quiet if u don't asks.......
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QUOTE(Diver Lim @ Nov 16 2016, 04:07 PM)
If they already know Cradleton are less strategy even with similar products nearby. Why don't they do.better on others part? Obviously slope is not the only concern and i.believe we have pass this question long time ago since we also know nothing can change anymore.

Smaller our request to backlane and trees... Gone...
Entrance tar road we know too much to ask, so we pass also.

Now even smaller to Grass only.

Are we really asking too much?

*i am also interested to see who are the nearby reliable developement have worse slope conditions than Cradleton. With staircase rooftop and deep steeps and waterfall at front.
0.5m Every two houses.
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AGREED! I am Cradleton buyer. Feel cheated by sales agent who emphasis the backlane and landscape to us.
Next month to VP but the site progress are not on par to their promises.
I cant accept this kind of backlane and cow grass. No flowers within.the precint? 600k+ are hard earn money, dont treat us like cow.

Ecoworld staff here?
Please IMPROVE those changeable little things for better landscape and backlane.
Delay VP when things are seriously not right. Dont fail us!

Would you?
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Anybody has seen a worst slope than EM slope? i.e. Drop every 1 unit?
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QUOTE(8sg9ft @ Nov 16 2016, 04:27 PM)
https://www.propsocial.my/classified/103608...nt-by-danny-hon

http://www.propertyguru.com.my/property-li...n-liew-22152293

Apologies...I just post links for u to see it ya..faster way biggrin.gif
Yes, true..first 2 parcels of the precinct generally very flat but the subsequent 2 parcels of the same precinct is built on sloping terrain. But yeah, every 4 units then only drop
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looks quite steep for Goodview Heights...every hse drop around 1 ft but I think the hse is a bigger width ...around 25 ft wide......can be a camera angle eye trick makes it steep ...so cannot say much...
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QUOTE(Ownstay @ Nov 16 2016, 04:34 PM)
AGREED! I am Cradleton buyer. Feel cheated by sales agent who emphasis the backlane and landscape to us.
Next month to VP but the site progress are not on par to their promises.
I cant accept this kind of backlane and cow grass. No flowers within.the precint? 600k+ are hard earn money, dont treat us like cow.

Ecoworld staff here?
Please IMPROVE those changeable little things for better landscape and backlane.
Delay VP when things are seriously not right. Dont fail us!

Would you?
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I feel u. I am paying interest every month now using my sweaty n bloody money for a rubbish product. For some 600k is nothing. But for majority of us, it is what we have been working hard for.
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Wow so many version already... blink.gif

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QUOTE(8sg9ft @ Nov 16 2016, 04:27 PM)
https://www.propsocial.my/classified/103608...nt-by-danny-hon

http://www.propertyguru.com.my/property-li...n-liew-22152293

Apologies...I just post links for u to see it ya..faster way biggrin.gif
Yes, true..first 2 parcels of the precinct generally very flat but the subsequent 2 parcels of the same precinct is built on sloping terrain. But yeah, every 4 units then only drop
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Sungai long one MAYBE as bad... No street photos I can't judge. Anyway, I don't assume they are developer under same classification with EW. Do you?

As for IJM. They managed much better. No eye sore... Smooth. And only small part of precinct and highlighted clearly before selling. Probably because they are more experienced developer.
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looks quite steep for Goodview Heights...every hse drop around 1 ft but I think the hse is a bigger width ...around 25 ft wide......can be a camera angle eye trick makes it steep ...so cannot say much...
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If u go puncak jalil even worst off around 20% to 30% steep line....
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QUOTE(VincentProperty @ Nov 16 2016, 04:38 PM)
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Did u buy anything from EM?
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QUOTE(Ownstay @ Nov 16 2016, 04:34 PM)
AGREED! I am Cradleton buyer. Feel cheated by sales agent who emphasis the backlane and landscape to us.
Next month to VP but the site progress are not on par to their promises.
I cant accept this kind of backlane and cow grass. No flowers within.the precint? 600k+ are hard earn money, dont treat us like cow.

Ecoworld staff here?
Please IMPROVE those changeable little things for better landscape and backlane.
Delay VP when things are seriously not right. Dont fail us!

Would you?
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QUOTE(Ownstay @ Nov 16 2016, 04:34 PM)
AGREED! I am Cradleton buyer. Feel cheated by sales agent who emphasis the backlane and landscape to us.
Next month to VP but the site progress are not on par to their promises.
I cant accept this kind of backlane and cow grass. No flowers within.the precint? 600k+ are hard earn money, dont treat us like cow.

Ecoworld staff here?
Please IMPROVE those changeable little things for better landscape and backlane.
Delay VP when things are seriously not right. Dont fail us!

Would you?
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VP is the time to official complain. No proper backlane garden as promised is a big NO-NO. That's de main reason I buy Cradleton. If can not deliver, don't ever use it as a selling point.
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QUOTE(Diver Lim @ Nov 16 2016, 04:39 PM)
Sungai long one MAYBE as bad... No street photos I can't judge. Anyway, I don't assume they are developer under same classification with EW. Do you?

As for IJM. They managed much better. No eye sore... Smooth. And only small part of precinct and highlighted clearly before selling. Probably because they are more experienced developer.
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Yes there is a street view..just keep clicking n clicking n closed the see agent page ....https://www.propsocial.my/classified/103608/goodview-heights-kajang-terrace-for-rent-by-danny-hon

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QUOTE(mamaky @ Nov 16 2016, 04:38 PM)
I feel u.  I am paying interest every month now using my sweaty n bloody money for a rubbish product.  For some 600k is nothing.  But for majority of us,  it is what we have been working hard for.
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woah bro... u wanna say without all those EM will be a rubbish product ke... keep faith bro... at 600k... there are more lousier products than EM leh.....other projects no such landscaping no such township... not even have the right to talk about backlane...
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QUOTE(johotin @ Nov 16 2016, 04:41 PM)
VP is the time to official complain. No proper backlane garden as promised is a big NO-NO. That's de main reason I buy Cradleton. If can not deliver,  don't ever use it as a selling point.
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VP is time to check for defects of the hse....after u signed then the last payment will be credited to the developer.....u cannot complain about grass...slope ....gate .....its not in the contract...what is there to complaint as no contractual obligations?
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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Nov 16 2016, 04:41 PM)
woah bro... u wanna say without all those EM will be a rubbish product ke... keep faith bro... at 600k... there are more lousier products than EM leh.....other projects no such landscaping no such township... not even have the right to talk about backlane...
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I think this doesn't comfort most buyers.
Many had make.their.points clear. Buying EW not to.compare who are worse.

Rm600k for 20*70, 2014 years new project in Semenyih. Who doesn't have landscape?

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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Nov 16 2016, 04:41 PM)
woah bro... u wanna say without all those EM will be a rubbish product ke... keep faith bro... at 600k... there are more lousier products than EM leh.....other projects no such landscaping no such township... not even have the right to talk about backlane...
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Compared to other products (SEG and TH and DC), yes, the product is rubbish.
Mr. Aaron, EM sell hard and promised backyard garden (lifestyle, British colonial, Swan like elegant feel), 2.5 years ago in their then sales gallery at jalan semenyih. But did u see the back lane they are going to deliver next month? Not rubbish?
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QUOTE(hpteoh88 @ Nov 16 2016, 04:43 PM)
VP is time to check for defects of the hse....after u signed then the last payment will be credited to the developer.....u cannot complain about grass...slope ....gate .....its not in the contract...what is there to complaint as no contractual obligations?
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EW has a real issue here. Sales & marketing team doesn't talk to their project team? The sales team whack and promise like nobody business. Then, project can't deliver. So lousy. Based on current site progress pictures, nothing can match the sales material. Keep changing and downgrading what has been promised. Damn.
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buy an acre land. Do u own landscape, backlane. Whole acre with carpet grass. No slope. Sure nice. 😂😂f

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Short 3 pages already spotted at least 6 unsatisfied Cradleton buyers. Although many still keep quiet and many not active in this forum and many are sold to friends and staffs and partners that would never make noise.

In this forum, if I am a pure trouble maker... I have already gone long time ago.

I used to be a EW protector too if anyone still remember.
What happened to me? Really that I want to be a asshole because I want to?
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QUOTE(Diver Lim @ Nov 16 2016, 04:45 PM)
I think this doesn't comfort most buyers.
Many had make.their.points clear. Buying EW not to.compare who are worse.

Rm600k for 20*70, 2014 years new project in Semenyih. Who doesn't have landscape?
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well... in this sense i agreed to the point that EW has emphasize and under deliver as at current situation... But in term of pricing, the hype created in 2014 was indeed quite misleading considering only SEH as the other premium project that will be there.... but of course... there might be something good come out from this project also right... bad things must emphasize i would agree... good things also should be share as well... biggrin.gif biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Rabel @ Nov 16 2016, 04:55 PM)
buy a acre land. Do u own landscape, backlane. Whole acre with carpet grass. No slope. Sure nice. 😂😂
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Thank you for.making fun on a dream that many peoples worked hard on.
Not many peoples are buying as investment for fun that could take your insult easily.

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anyone got the answer from developer about eco backlane?
promised landscape but no landscape, wat they reply?
financial problem? soil problem? architect problem? gov problem?
atleast hv an answer to buyers
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QUOTE(mamaky @ Nov 16 2016, 04:48 PM)
Compared to other products (SEG and TH and DC), yes,  the product is rubbish.
Mr. Aaron, EM sell hard and promised backyard garden (lifestyle, British colonial, Swan like elegant feel), 2.5 years ago in their then sales gallery at jalan semenyih. But did u see the back lane they are going to deliver next month? Not rubbish?
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should be got some other things that you can look at it positively ba... i do agree bad things must share... but to the extent of rubbish... it seems kinda harsh on the investment you had made... smile.gif smile.gif
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QUOTE(mamaky @ Nov 16 2016, 04:48 PM)
Compared to other products (SEG and TH and DC), yes,  the product is rubbish.
Mr. Aaron, EM sell hard and promised backyard garden (lifestyle, British colonial, Swan like elegant feel), 2.5 years ago in their then sales gallery at jalan semenyih. But did u see the back lane they are going to deliver next month? Not rubbish?
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I agreed. Frankly, I was so disappointed to see the monthly site progress pictures. EW can't deliver what their sales team has promised the buyers. I'd called EM to voice my disappointment over the backlane garden design. I was told that it's too early to place judgement on what they will deliver. Excuse me, it's not too early as it's only weeks to VP now.
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QUOTE(Rabel @ Nov 16 2016, 04:55 PM)
buy a acre land. Do u own landscape, backlane. Whole acre with carpet grass. No slope. Sure nice. 😂😂
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If everybody can do that then nobody will be buying EM and EM will not be selling anything and hence, this thread will not exist. Pls. have some sense of logic when commenting. Thanks.
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QUOTE(Diver Lim @ Nov 16 2016, 04:55 PM)
Short 3 pages already spotted at least 6 unsatisfied Cradleton buyers. Although many still keep quiet and many not active in this forum and many are sold to friends and staffs and partners that would never make noise.

In this forum, if I am a pure trouble maker... I have already gone long time ago.

I used to be a EW protector too if anyone still remember.
What happened to me? Really that I want to be a asshole because I want to?
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yes u WERE EW fans last time as u beat the hell out of me when I commented on the insider pictures from a crossed off contractor of EW who posted construction pics of EW.....those pics were great to show what happen inside of the projects where no outsider can go in....
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QUOTE(dreamer2020 @ Nov 16 2016, 04:58 PM)
anyone got the answer from developer about eco backlane?
promised landscape but no landscape, wat they reply?
financial problem? soil problem? architect problem? gov problem?
atleast hv an answer to buyers
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Whatever is the reason, EW has to fix it and deliver. The backlane garden has been cost in. Just give excuses are not acceptable.
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I agreed. Frankly, I was so disappointed to see the monthly site progress pictures. EW can't deliver what their sales team has promised the buyers. I'd called EM to voice my disappointment over the backlane garden design. I was told that it's too early to place judgement on what they will deliver. Excuse me, it's not too early as it's only weeks to VP now.
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Any Cradleton buyers dealed with the SA recently would understand.

They are well prepared to not answer you anything.
The most they will hint you with an insult smile that price are big different with new project.
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yes u WERE EW fans last time as u beat the hell out of me when I commented on the insider pictures from a crossed off contractor of EW who posted construction pics of EW.....those pics were great to show what happen inside of the projects where no outsider can go in....
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600+k by today standard still considered a lot ...EW shd train up their SA more, wrong info is bad, withholding intentionally is even worse...but let's see the end product since the date of verdict is near enough..VP time !!
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Oh my... pls everyone mind the words used...
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QUOTE(Diver Lim @ Nov 16 2016, 05:04 PM)
Any Cradleton buyers dealed with the SA recently would understand.

They are well prepared to not answer you anything.
The most they will hint you with an insult smile that price are big different with new project.
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IMHO...ecoslope we need to reserve comments here as no one has gone in or taken pics of the severity of the slope...also its already sunk costs....u cannot do anything about it.....

For the ecolane the SA will tell u ...kerja on-going belum habis...tunggu...tunggu boss...so we also need to reserve comments.....but on the outline its not too great.....so hopefully can do cosmetic surgery to beautify it...
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No @ssh@!3 is greater than literal smile.gif
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no matter how u put it ...backwards ..upwards ...meaning also the same....hahaha....for diver lim he will hope the slope will be upside down like the movie ......
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QUOTE(hpteoh88 @ Nov 16 2016, 05:16 PM)
no matter how u put it ...backwards ..upwards ...meaning also the same....hahaha....for diver lim he will hope the slope will be upside down like the movie ......
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Sounds like it..looks like it.......BUT not it tongue.gif
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Oh my... pls everyone mind the words used...
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It's not easy for you but mothing personal on you. Nobody are here to hate you and against you. I hope you understand.

I.believe most peoples here appreciated you here.

We are here case by case, nothing personal.
I hope everyone here able to handle it professionally too.

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Let's learn to breathe......inhale...life is shorter by a bit....exhale...life has just got longer by abit....the wonderful thing is appreciate life in between smile.gif

Peace peace to all smile.gif
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QUOTE(Ownstay @ Nov 16 2016, 04:34 PM)
AGREED! I am Cradleton buyer. Feel cheated by sales agent who emphasis the backlane and landscape to us.
Next month to VP but the site progress are not on par to their promises.
I cant accept this kind of backlane and cow grass. No flowers within.the precint? 600k+ are hard earn money, dont treat us like cow.

Ecoworld staff here?
Please IMPROVE those changeable little things for better landscape and backlane.
Delay VP when things are seriously not right. Dont fail us!

Would you?
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wise or experienced investors always said "don't ever become pioneer for any new project/township.. risk is very high and ...."
looks like they are 100% rights... at least for cradleton buyers end up with wounded and casulties..haha
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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Nov 16 2016, 04:56 PM)
well... in this sense i agreed to the point that EW has emphasize and under deliver as at current situation...  But in term of pricing, the hype created in 2014 was indeed quite misleading considering only SEH as the other premium project that will be there.... but of course... there might be something good come out from this project also right... bad things must emphasize i would agree... good things also should be share as well...  biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif
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Good things are lake, police, toll? Those are good, but also for public.

I paid my money for a home to live in. A family life. Lifestyle within the precint are most important to us. Carpet grass inside housing area rather important than growing them on the streetside.
Backlane and grass still can improve. Unless they are not willing to listen and improve. In that case, Ecoworld do not deserve my respect. And I would advise people to beware dealing with their future launch property.


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+1

wise or experienced  investors always said "don't ever become pioneer for any new project/township.. risk is very high and ...."
looks like they are 100% rights... at least for cradleton buyers end up with wounded and casulties..haha
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For a reliable developer, first phase of a township are usually the one to harvest.
Otherwise just like what I commented earier. Early worms logic....who should support developer like this?

早买早供屋, 迟买屋"leng"滴。
What's the logic?

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Now..surely craddleton buyers feel emotionally rejected but as time goes by
The propert will go up n reaping rewards the most within EM

Dun believe ? Check out the days when talam kinrara project got abandon, sapu a few cost nothing beyond 300k now 1 biji can easily ask for 300 plus or more....tears in the past are bitter but tears of joy for now smile.gif
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Go see current em craddleton ads at least also asking for 20% gain....still considered decent in times like this
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Go see current em craddleton ads at least also asking for 20% gain....still considered decent in times like this
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I can call for rm 1mil also.

Rm730k vs Merrydale rm770 before discount. You would buy Cradleton?

Anyway, no on are discussing about appreciation value.

I have mentioned many times, it's a dream yhat many peoples working hard on.

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I can call for rm 1mil also.
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QUOTE(Diver Lim @ Nov 16 2016, 05:30 PM)
For a reliable developer, first phase of a township are usually the one to harvest.
Otherwise just like what I commented earier. Early worms logic....who should support developer like this?

早买早供屋, 迟买屋"leng"滴。
What's the logic?
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we bought cos TSL came out to EW...rite...everyone thought he was the midas touch....
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Now..surely craddleton buyers feel emotionally rejected but as time goes by
The propert will go up n reaping rewards the most within EM

Dun believe ? Check out the days when talam kinrara project got abandon, sapu a few cost nothing beyond 300k now 1 biji can easily ask for 300 plus or more....tears in the past are bitter but tears of joy for now smile.gif
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yes u r rite....I bought one there was consider rubbish then...going to the house is like going to genting up hill.....damn dangerous also...
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QUOTE(quicksilver9832 @ Nov 16 2016, 05:30 PM)
Now..surely craddleton buyers feel emotionally rejected but as time goes by
The propert will go up n reaping rewards the most within EM

Dun believe ? Check out the days when talam kinrara project got abandon, sapu a few cost nothing beyond 300k now 1 biji can easily ask for 300 plus or more....tears in the past are bitter but tears of joy for now smile.gif
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I.cant agree with you. I am buying cradleton for ownstay. I choose semenyih because of the backlane and lifestyle they promote. I want the lifestyle now. Not price for tomorrow..

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QUOTE(quicksilver9832 @ Nov 16 2016, 05:32 PM)
Go see current em craddleton ads at least also asking for 20% gain....still considered decent in times like this
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advertisements only...have sellers may not have buyers ..... cannot say anything until transacted...
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Who dare to stop u...but have to be realistic ma  biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Ownstay @ Nov 16 2016, 05:29 PM)
Good things are lake, police, toll? Those are good, but also for public.

I paid my money for a home to live in. A family life. Lifestyle within the precint are most important to us. Carpet grass inside housing area rather important than growing them on the streetside.
Backlane and grass still can improve. Unless they are not willing to listen and improve. In that case, Ecoworld do not deserve my respect. And I would advise people to beware dealing with their future launch property.
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Good are police,. Toll and unifi ready.
For Lake, only swan lake is nice. The lake outside Cradleton very cincai, need to improve.

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yes u r rite....I bought one there was consider rubbish then...going to the house is like going to genting up hill.....damn dangerous also...
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Hahaha...Hell no... Please la. Now everybody comparing EW talam meh... Not even capable to handle 3rd tiers and 4th tiers developers anymore? Going to Talam?

I thought few years back everyone shouting EW are the new king. SETIA gone afyer Tan Sri leave? No one remember this anymore?
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QUOTE(mamaky @ Nov 16 2016, 05:53 PM)
Good are police,. Toll and unifi ready.
For Lake,  only swan lake is nice.  The lake outside Cradleton very cincai, need to improve.
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Police is to protect ghosts..protect you meh? Who's staying there already?

After handover who are going to sustain the police force?
Another LPPL show la brother.

The most transfer to Eco Majestic City only. If EW still remember what's Majestic City la.

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QUOTE(Diver Lim @ Nov 16 2016, 05:57 PM)
Police is to protect ghosts..protect you meh? Who's staying there already?

After handover who are going to sustain the police force?
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Yes, now to protect ghosts. Later after VP to protect residents.

At least we know the area will be polis ready now. Security up another level when ppl staying in.
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QUOTE(Diver Lim @ Nov 16 2016, 05:57 PM)
Police is to protect ghosts..protect you meh? Who's staying there already?

After handover who are going to sustain the police force?
Another LPPL show la brother.

The most transfer to Eco Majestic City only. If EW still remember what's Majestic City la.
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Wait. U mean they will discontinue the polis after VP? No lah. Won't la... Don't scare me.
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Wait.  U mean they will discontinue the polis after VP? No lah. Won't la... Don't scare me.
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Who will be paying the police?
MBKJ pay?
Everybody thought 10 years long time to go so ignore this.

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Go see current em craddleton ads at least also asking for 20% gain....still considered decent in times like this
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should compared with recently vped units......

you know how bad is rimbayu 1st phase subsale is?

asking 20% gain...actual will be much lower...by the time minus tax and other incidental cost.......how much one get to gain?
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QUOTE(jadeKL @ Nov 16 2016, 05:24 PM)
+1

wise or experienced  investors always said "don't ever become pioneer for any new project/township.. risk is very high and ...."
looks like they are 100% rights... at least for cradleton buyers end up with wounded and casulties..haha
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These are scanned copies of the marketing materials during the launch.

Please note:
Curvy walking path, both lakefront and back lane
Landscaping with trees surrounding the development, backlane.

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QUOTE(BREXIT @ Nov 16 2016, 06:10 PM)
These are scanned copies of the marketing materials during the launch.

Please note:
Curvy walking path, both lakefront and back lane
Landscaping with trees surrounding the development, backlane.
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These doesn't have legal responsibility right?

Tonight I take photos on the buyers booklet we have for general garden and pavement flooring towards roundabout.

Let's judge big con or small con.

Or whoever have the booklet on hand can share first also.

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QUOTE(Diver Lim @ Nov 16 2016, 06:15 PM)
Tonight I take photos on the buyers booklet we have for general garden and pavement flooring.

Let's judge big con or small con.
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Later i check s&p see got anyhting or not.
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QUOTE(mamaky @ Nov 16 2016, 06:16 PM)
Later i  check s&p see got anyhting or not.
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You no want to find out police one first?
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QUOTE(Diver Lim @ Nov 16 2016, 05:36 PM)
I can call for rm 1mil also.

Rm730k vs Merrydale rm770 before discount. You would buy Cradleton?

Anyway, no on are discussing about appreciation value.

I have mentioned many times, it's a dream yhat many peoples working hard on.
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Dun get your pt le....what do u mean

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yes u r rite....I bought one there was consider rubbish then...going to the house is like going to genting up hill.....damn dangerous also...
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My fren sapu non stop...today become some mini tycoon vmad.gif
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QUOTE(hpteoh88 @ Nov 16 2016, 05:44 PM)
advertisements only...have sellers may not have buyers ..... cannot say anything until transacted...
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Well...at least some market renderings ma...no renderings how to nego till close
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Actually I haven't finished..got interrupted just now.
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Ok...we all know u r beyond excitement and transcend into the realms of liberty
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Well...at least some market renderings ma...no renderings how to nego till close
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You're assuming 20% appreciation, which is nearly rm730k Cradleton. I havent count in cost of interest.
VS rm770k before discount Merrydale you can still get now. Which one you buy?
How many % discount they are having now?

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QUOTE(Ownstay @ Nov 16 2016, 05:44 PM)
I.cant agree with you. I am buying cradleton for ownstay. I choose semenyih because of the backlane and lifestyle they promote. I want the lifestyle now. Not price for tomorrow..
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Sure u can....have u looked up the GM Evon Yap and face to face communicated your concerns ?
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QUOTE(Diver Lim @ Nov 16 2016, 06:38 PM)
You're assuming 20% appreciation, which is nearly rm730k Cradleton.
Vs rm770k before discount Merrydale. Which one you buy?
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U mean if now subsale craddleton 730k vs dev stock merrydale ? Same size....actually hard le
Depends on individual le...40k diff can be also subjective ....some like design...some like price...
Too many factors
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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Nov 16 2016, 06:07 PM)
should compared with recently vped units......

you know how bad is rimbayu 1st phase subsale is?

asking 20% gain...actual will be much lower...by the time minus tax and other incidental cost.......how much one get to gain?
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Why must compare with rimbayu 1st phase? Y not DPC 1st phase...bandar Puteri 1st phase? Or even talam kinrara 1st phase? blink.gif
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QUOTE(quicksilver9832 @ Nov 16 2016, 06:40 PM)
U mean if now subsale craddleton 730k vs dev stock merrydale ? Same size....actually hard le
Depends on individual le...40k diff can be also subjective ....some like design...some like price...
Too many factors
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Not rm40k.
Rm770k not discount yet.
And i believe not normal unit, anyone know what's the special rm770k unit leftover still for Merrydale currently?

How many % discount they're offering now?

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Why must compare with rimbayu 1st phase? Y not DPC 1st phase...bandar Puteri 1st phase? Or even talam kinrara 1st phase?  blink.gif
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Haha...one more Talam.comparison case.
Congratulations EW.
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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Nov 16 2016, 06:07 PM)
should compared with recently vped units......

you know how bad is rimbayu 1st phase subsale is?

asking 20% gain...actual will be much lower...by the time minus tax and other incidental cost.......how much one get to gain?
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Ok my bad....miss out your recent vp ....if like dat ah...hmm still 20% even at gross sill good le
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Ok my bad....miss out your recent vp ....if like dat ah...hmm still 20% even at gross sill good le
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Answer my earlier question first.
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QUOTE(Diver Lim @ Nov 16 2016, 06:44 PM)
Haha...one more Talam.comparison case.
Congratulations EW.
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Ok ma talam is legendary le...15 yrs ago ppl cry...go news conference...mca...state mp ...
Now talam shoik

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You want to talk about 20%.
Answer my earlier question first.
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Honestly I dun understNd your question la...maybe my comprehension skill lauya...can u pls elaborate further rclxub.gif
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You're saying Cradleton making gross 20% profit.

So I assuming 20% are rm730k for Cradleton 20*70.

Same size for Merrydale are available from rm770k before discount. I am not sure how many % discount they are having now. And that rm770k are not normal units I perhaps.

Do you still think the saying of CRADLETON buyers making 20% gross profit are reasonable?

After we prove that Cradleton got zero appreciation.
Let's move on to others concern and request.

Many buyers buying for ownstay.

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QUOTE(Diver Lim @ Nov 16 2016, 06:55 PM)
You're saying Cradleton making gross 20% profit.

So I assuming 20%  are rm730k for Cradleton 20*70.

Same size for Merrydale are available from rm770k before discount. I am not sure how many % discount they are having now. And that rm770k are not normal units I perhaps.

Do you still think the saying of CRADLETON buyers making 20% gross profit are reasonable?
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Ah ...ok now I see better...I think maybe I shd explain myself abit more...I seeing ads of craddleton asking 600 plus 20x70 standard intermediate...based on all the impression I got before 500 plus is early entry...so 20% make lo dats my understanding

If u say now become 730 on subsale craddleton......good luck lo confused.gif
But again nothing is certain...some ppl may want craddleton subsale since still cheaper , some willing to pay more go for merrydale...1 rice eat thousands, can't generalise le hmm.gif
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QUOTE(Diver Lim @ Nov 16 2016, 06:38 PM)
You're assuming 20% appreciation, which is nearly rm730k Cradleton. I havent count in cost of interest.
VS rm770k before discount Merrydale you can still get now. Which one you buy?
How many % discount they are having now?
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when merrydale vp, seller wont sell at 700k++ le
min 800k+
if u sell 700k still can make profit
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Ah ...ok now I see better...I think maybe I shd explain myself abit more...I seeing ads of craddleton asking 600 plus 20x70 standard intermediate...based on all the impression I got before 500 plus is early entry...so 20% make lo dats my understanding

If u say now become 730 on subsale craddleton......good luck lo :confused:
But again nothing is certain...some ppl may want craddleton subsale since still cheaper , some willing to pay more go for merrydale...1 rice eat thousands, can't generalise le hmm.gif
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Brother...Cradleton lowest are close to rm600k and many are over rm600k for 20*70.

How are list price rm600++ are 20% appreciation?
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QUOTE(Diver Lim @ Nov 16 2016, 06:55 PM)
You're saying Cradleton making gross 20% profit.

So I assuming 20%  are rm730k for Cradleton 20*70.

Same size for Merrydale are available from rm770k before discount. I am not sure how many % discount they are having now. And that rm770k are not normal units I perhaps.

Do you still think the saying of CRADLETON buyers making 20% gross profit are reasonable?

After we prove that Cradleton got zero appreciation.
Let's move on to others concern and request.

Many buyers buying for ownstay.
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Way u keep editing n add question...very hard to follow le

20% reasonable or not???hello???up know best lo???but ask another buyer abc till z all can have diff opinion
It's my personal adaptation la, not imposing n making it into some mc square theory to become universal rule of thumb le

But of coz bottom line is holding power, who would wanna sell n rugi? But agin if don't also have to think of calling ah long for charity Liao, dat again is somebody's decision - all in all, it's purely subjective thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(dreamer2020 @ Nov 16 2016, 07:03 PM)
when merrydale vp, seller wont sell at 700k++ le
min 800k+
if u sell 700k still can make profit
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You want to buy Merrdale special unit at rm770k before discount. Still can get it.
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QUOTE(Diver Lim @ Nov 16 2016, 07:06 PM)
You want to buy Merrdale special unit at rm770k before discount. Still can get it.
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market no good, tats y
u need to wait till all unit sold out first
+ cradleton many unit selling at 570k after discount
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QUOTE(Diver Lim @ Nov 16 2016, 07:04 PM)
Brother...Cradleton lowest are close to rm600k and many are over rm600k for 20*70.

How are list price rm600++ are 20% appreciation?
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Ok ok if u tell me craddleton 1st phase is 600 plus Liao".....of coz bad la
But again times like this how to get capital appreciation le....if really need to sell, still make some consider good lo
See those high rise...most turn out losing game...so many can't rent out...drop drop n more drop still no takers

So my bottom line is..if desperate really need to sell ..no choice lo..make small consider win big
If can hold good la....must hold like Talam flex.gif
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QUOTE(Diver Lim @ Nov 16 2016, 07:06 PM)
You want to buy Merrdale special unit at rm770k before discount. Still can get it.
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770k before discount ? Merrydale type A ? 20x70?
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Ok ok if u tell me craddleton 1st phase is 600 plus Liao".....of coz bad la
But again times like this how to get capital appreciation le....if really need to sell, still make some consider good lo
See those high rise...most turn out losing game...so many can't rent out...drop drop n more drop still no takers

So my bottom line is..if desperate really need to sell ..no choice lo..make small consider win big
If can hold good la....must hold like Talam  flex.gif
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Borther, no one said want to make money from here.
You're the one that jump out and convince us we make 20% profit.
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770k before discount ? Merrydale type A ? 20x70?
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QUOTE(Diver Lim @ Nov 16 2016, 07:10 PM)
Borther, no one said want to make money from here.
You're the one that jump out and convince us we make 20% profit.
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My own adaptation la....ok ok my bad...pls dun bitch slap me icon_question.gif
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QUOTE(Diver Lim @ Nov 16 2016, 07:11 PM)
Yes.
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Hmm...if for own stay gd lo...if invest...need to see own pocket holding power
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QUOTE(dreamer2020 @ Nov 16 2016, 07:08 PM)
market no good, tats y
u need to wait till all unit sold out first
+ cradleton many unit selling at 570k after discount
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My merrydale game plan is 5-10 yrs
Maybe even own stay rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(dreamer2020 @ Nov 16 2016, 07:03 PM)
when merrydale vp, seller wont sell at 700k++ le
min 800k+
if u sell 700k still can make profit
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Exactly n hopefully by Mellowood vp ...merrydale got 1m plus market rclxm9.gif
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Craddleton 570 still got or not smile.gif
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QUOTE(quicksilver9832 @ Nov 16 2016, 07:27 PM)
Craddleton 570 still got or not smile.gif
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Rm586k entry price is 2014 year bro.
1 USD probably= 3.6-3.8 MYR only.
I already stop reacting why you still keep trying to highlight Craddleton are low end house?

We should thanks EW for this results that everyone including you are believe strongly Cradleton are cheap house that we doesn't deserve anything?
You can happy with your Merrydale. Can we Cradleton buyers make request and voice out for our house?

This is not the first time you show off your Merrydale are premium house.

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QUOTE(Diver Lim @ Nov 16 2016, 07:35 PM)
Rm586k entry price is 2014 year bro.
1 USD probably= 3.6-3.8 MYR only.
I already stop reacting why you still keep trying to highlight Craddleton are low end house?

We should thanks EW for this results that everyone including you are believe strongly Cradleton are cheap house that we doesn't deserve anything?
You can happy with your Merrydale. Can we Cradleton buyers make request and voice out for our house?
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Hang on bro....it's not my intention at all la, m really interested to know whether 570 is the 1st phase entry ma based on dreamer2020

Merrydale where got high class...we all sama sama ...very most I got more balcony than yours lo tongue.gif
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Hang on bro....it's not my intention at all la, m really interested to know whether 570 is the 1st phase entry ma based on dreamer2020

Merrydale where got high class...we all sama sama ...very most I got more balcony than yours lo tongue.gif
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Only these two small rolls in red are rm586k.

All other almost rm600k or over above rm600k.
Remember there are many 700k, 800k and over rm1 mil buyers too, they doesn't pay lesser than you even thought they buy earlier than you.

Don't keep misunderstand that Cradleton are cheap precinct anymore.
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QUOTE(Diver Lim @ Nov 16 2016, 07:55 PM)
Only these two small rolls in red are rm586k.

All other almost rm600k or over above rm600k.
Remember there are many 700k, 800k and over rm1 mil buyers too, they doesn't pay lesser than you even thought they buy earlier than you.

Don't keep misunderstand that Cradleton are cheap precinct anymore.
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QUOTE(Diver Lim @ Nov 16 2016, 07:55 PM)
Only these two small rolls in red are rm586k.

All other almost rm600k or over above rm600k.
Remember there are many 700k, 800k and over rm1 mil buyers too, they doesn't pay lesser than you even thought they buy earlier than you.

Don't keep misunderstand that Cradleton are cheap precinct anymore.
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You can barely get below RM600k...almost all under N/A have been sold off to staff and suppliers and associates....average price I know is around RM 650k....RM 585k is just marketing gimmick....
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QUOTE(hpteoh88 @ Nov 16 2016, 08:16 PM)
You can barely get below RM600k...almost all under N/A have been sold off to staff and suppliers and associates....average price I know is around RM 650k....RM 585k is just marketing gimmick....
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NA are cheaper than Rm586 for sure. Those we don't count one, not for normal buyers also, they can't deliver according that price standard.

Rm586k should be for the two rolls I highlighted if I remember correctly. 20 units among 612 units (including NA)

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Diver 1 sure very expensive...I cannot imagine Liao tongue.gif
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Diver 1 sure very expensive...I cannot imagine Liao tongue.gif
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I am not rich, but I believe I still have the right to request for what I think is fair that Cradleton should have.
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QUOTE(Diver Lim @ Nov 16 2016, 08:19 PM)
NA are cheaper than Rm586 for sure. Those we don't count one, not for normal buyers also, they can't deliver according that price standard.

Rm586k should be for the two rolls I highlighted if I remember correctly. 20 units among 612 units (including NA)
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So there are 500+ units....n go by 20% make...700, not a bad profit in times like this tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Diver Lim @ Nov 16 2016, 08:37 PM)
I am not rich, but I believe I still have the right to request for what I think is fair that Cradleton should have.
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U buy...u expect...dats fair
But how EW react....hmm seem not so encouraging anymore ?
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Of cuz EPF invest in EW la. The return on investment so good when it comes to ecoworld. What they care at the end of the day is profit and ecoworld marketing strategy is so good that their products are always selling faster than its peers. Why would a pension fund invest in developers that can't sell?

Look at the people here in EM thread. Some are happy, some are neutral while some are really piss with EW. At the end of the day these people from these 3 different modes bought ecoworld product. Some even hold more than one unit.

EPF investment doesn't prove EW is a developer that is able to deliver top notch product. It simply shows EPF is investing in a biz modal that is able to generate returns to its shareholders. I guess all EPF holders will have to thank ecoworld purchasers indirectly to secure a decent yield of returns.

I mean a genuine home buyer or investor would look at the end product. If you are so gung-ho about ecoworld financials and capability go and buy the shares la not the house hahaha
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So there are 500+ units....n go by 20% make...700, not a bad profit in times like this tongue.gif
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QUOTE(mthc @ Nov 16 2016, 08:41 PM)
Of cuz EPF invest in EW la. The return on investment so good when it comes to ecoworld. What they care at the end of the day is profit and ecoworld marketing strategy is so good that their products are always selling faster than its peers. Why would a pension fund invest in developers that can't sell?

Look at the people here in EM thread. Some are happy, some are neutral while some are really piss with EW. At the end of the day these people from these 3 different modes bought ecoworld product. Some even hold more than one unit.

EPF investment doesn't prove EW is a developer that is able to deliver top notch product. It simply shows EPF is investing in a biz modal that is able to generate returns to its shareholders. I guess all EPF holders will have to thank ecoworld purchasers indirectly to secure a decent yield of returns.

I mean a genuine home buyer or investor would look at the end product. If you are so gung-ho about ecoworld financials and capability go and buy the shares la not the house hahaha
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QUOTE(Diver Lim @ Nov 16 2016, 08:43 PM)
Still want to come.
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Wah...I cannot be entitled to my own opinion 1 ah? U read the small little red book 1 issit icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(mthc @ Nov 16 2016, 08:41 PM)
Of cuz EPF invest in EW la. The return on investment so good when it comes to ecoworld. What they care at the end of the day is profit and ecoworld marketing strategy is so good that their products are always selling faster than its peers. Why would a pension fund invest in developers that can't sell?

Look at the people here in EM thread. Some are happy, some are neutral while some are really piss with EW. At the end of the day these people from these 3 different modes bought ecoworld product. Some even hold more than one unit.

EPF investment doesn't prove EW is a developer that is able to deliver top notch product. It simply shows EPF is investing in a biz modal that is able to generate returns to its shareholders. I guess all EPF holders will have to thank ecoworld purchasers indirectly to secure a decent yield of returns.

I mean a genuine home buyer or investor would look at the end product. If you are so gung-ho about ecoworld financials and capability go and buy the shares la not the house hahaha
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Very true.

Actually; buyers should buy EW's share...

Just like buying bank's share... Banks makes money out of us; instead of complaning; just buy the bank's share n keep long term

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QUOTE(brando_w @ Nov 16 2016, 08:52 PM)
Very true.

Actually; buyers should buy EW's share...

Just like buying bank's share... Banks makes money out of us; instead of complaning; just buy the bank's share n keep long term
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EW share got potential...haven't been moving for much yeah
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QUOTE(brando_w @ Nov 16 2016, 08:52 PM)
Very true.

Actually; buyers should buy EW's share...

Just like buying bank's share... Banks makes money out of us; instead of complaning; just buy the bank's share n keep long term
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Actually all those invested in Eco World share earlier day still losing big money now.

Even if you buy at cheaper entry price at 15-16, still not making money.

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Diver piss ma...I cannot say No...later my merrydale kena burnt down
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Haha. I think your merrydale hou gik yao han. Cradleton is a reflection how ecoworld would deliver their promise.

Thanks for your suggestion to face toface w Evon yap. Enough of concerns raised. Appreciate EW's SOLUTION.
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QUOTE(brando_w @ Nov 16 2016, 08:52 PM)
Very true.

Actually; buyers should buy EW's share...

Just like buying bank's share... Banks makes money out of us; instead of complaning; just buy the bank's share n keep long term
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If the management cannot deliver, very hard for the share price to appreciate over long-term. I have said earlier, the CEO cannot mess up their first project in KV. He must react to this to protect EW's reputation. The stake is high. Financially they are not strong, and their only value is the management quality and knowledge. I will sell my EW shares if they fail to deliver.



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Actually i feel should not compare EM Cradleton with SEH 3B series as it is under two different field. Strata vs Individual titles. For 3B series, it consider no bad for individual property as near to Tenby School plus gt weeping meadow park within its gated area. Attached with some of the weeping meadow photo.


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QUOTE(Ownstay @ Nov 16 2016, 09:14 PM)
Haha. I think your merrydale hou gik yao han. Cradleton is a reflection how ecoworld would deliver their promise.

Thanks for your suggestion to face toface w Evon yap. Enough of concerns raised. Appreciate EW's SOLUTION.
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Well..my game plan is long term..I can even accept talam, u think u know my bottom line?  brows.gif
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QUOTE(LTFan @ Nov 16 2016, 09:16 PM)
If the management cannot deliver, very hard for the share price to appreciate over long-term. I have said earlier, the CEO cannot mess up their first project in KV. He must react to this to protect EW's reputation. The stake is high. Financially they are not strong, and their only value is the management quality and knowledge.  I will sell my EW shares if they fail to deliver.
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Rhetorically this is true...but upon seeing so many EW ramp ups , n even the ultimate EWI imminent launching, I reserve my comments mega_shok.gif
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Hahaha...
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This speaker is expert in tax matter... I think it's worth to go and listen if interested.


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This speaker is expert in tax matter... I think it's worth to go and listen if interested.
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Good stuff rclxm9.gif is this freehold ? On penang island itself?!
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I tot someone was comparing cradleton's stick tree and the plain dead lake with SEH P3 and now when someone posted the photos suddenly calm down ady?
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Good stuff rclxm9.gif  is this freehold ? On penang island itself?!
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It is at Eco Meadows (Simpang Ampat). Freehold.
The talk is about the tax but I understand that there are staff from Eco Bloom/Meadows come down on duty during this weekend.
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QUOTE(Jasoncat @ Nov 16 2016, 09:53 PM)
It is at Eco Meadows (Simpang Ampat).  Freehold.
The talk is about the tax but I understand that there are staff from Eco Bloom/Meadows come down on duty during this weekend.
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QUOTE(vincentSEH83 @ Nov 16 2016, 09:18 PM)
Actually i feel should not compare EM Cradleton with SEH 3B series as it is under two different field. Strata vs Individual titles. For 3B series, it consider no bad for individual property as near to Tenby School plus gt weeping meadow park within its gated area. Attached with some of the weeping meadow photo.
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These are inseide the precinct?
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QUOTE(daniel125 @ Nov 16 2016, 09:52 PM)
I tot someone was comparing cradleton's stick tree and the plain dead lake with SEH P3 and now when someone posted the photos suddenly calm down ady?
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The photos for 3Bs in SEH P1, not P3.
More than 10 pages of comments today alone u thk still got energy to continue? Hang neck also need to breathe ok.
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Thanks bro...will support event flex.gif  hope the food is nice oh hehe
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No prob.
Haha... Penang food I like it. Earlier there was Penang food makan in Eco Grandeur and some forumer said nice woh.
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QUOTE(Jasoncat @ Nov 16 2016, 09:57 PM)
No prob.
Haha... Penang food I like it.  Earlier there was Penang food makan in Eco  Grandeur and some forumer said nice woh.
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QUOTE(mamaky @ Nov 16 2016, 09:57 PM)
The photos for 3Bs in SEH P1, not P3.
More than 10 pages of comments today alone u thk still got energy to continue? Hang neck also need to breathe ok.
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These are the weeping meadows? Means for saraca and samenea only rite? Not even for the B series.
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QUOTE(vincentSEH83 @ Nov 16 2016, 09:18 PM)
Actually i feel should not compare EM Cradleton with SEH 3B series as it is under two different field. Strata vs Individual titles. For 3B series, it consider no bad for individual property as near to Tenby School plus gt weeping meadow park within its gated area. Attached with some of the weeping meadow photo.
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Boss. This is for samanea and saraca only rite? B-series cannot access. Am i rite?
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Yo! So fast we are now in Version 13A!!!  Keep it up with the "intensed" yet constructive discussion.  Lol.
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QUOTE(mascot_lim @ Nov 16 2016, 10:38 PM)
Walau leh....today blow how many pages d?
I think at least 20 pages r? so fast one.....

swt.....
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Eh mascot bro...how's eg...anymore makan event? Pls share share yeah
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QUOTE(Jasoncat @ Nov 16 2016, 09:46 PM)
This speaker is expert in tax matter... I think it's worth to go and listen if interested.
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Speaker are going to.teach us on reduce taxable income from deduction of bank interest for property sort of things?

I have challange on high tax rate because rental are tracked as taxable income..that's why can't declare higher income but I don't declare higher, next year I might be challanging to secure high property loan. He can help?
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QUOTE(mascot_lim @ Nov 16 2016, 10:38 PM)
Walau leh....today blow how many pages d?
I think at least 20 pages r? so fast one.....

swt.....
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Hehe... record breaking day for EM thread biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Diver Lim @ Nov 16 2016, 10:44 PM)
Speaker are going to.teach us on reduce taxable income from deduction of bank interest for property sort of things?

I have challange on high tax rate because rental are tracked as taxable income..that's why can't declare higher income but I don't declare higher, next year I might be challanging to secure high property loan. He can help?
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I can't speak on his behalf whether there is a workable solution to your situation. But he has been invited to talk about tax and budget matter in TV and print media as well as some forums (not Lowyat Forum tongue.gif). Quite often see him comment in Sin Chew daily too.
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QUOTE(Jasoncat @ Nov 16 2016, 10:48 PM)
I can't speak on his behalf whether there is a workable solution to your situation.  But he has been invited to talk about tax and budget matter in TV and print media as well as some forums (not Lowyat Forum tongue.gif).  Quite often see him comment in Sin Chew daily too.
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Sorry, wrong questions. What I mean is, he is invited to help us on these problems? Is that part of his agenda?

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QUOTE(Diver Lim @ Nov 16 2016, 10:56 PM)
Sorry, wrong questions. What I mean is, he is invited to help us on these problems? Is that part of his agenda?
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If we refer strictly to the poster, the topic is Tax Strategy in Property Investment and contents include: how to take advantage of Budget 2017, tax efficient ways to invest in property and various taxes implication on property investment. So in general it seems that it does cover the problems you highlighted. But how extensive he will talk about it I'm not sure... Alternatively either you raise it during the talk or private conversation with him after the talk.
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QUOTE(Jasoncat @ Nov 16 2016, 11:02 PM)
If we refer strictly to the poster, the topic is Tax Strategy in Property Investment and contents include: how to take advantage of Budget 2017, tax efficient ways to invest in property and various taxes implication on property investment.  So in general it seems that it does cover the problems you highlighted.  But how extensive he will talk about it I'm not sure... Alternatively either you raise it during the talk or private conversation with him after the talk.
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Such high profile advisor, i can't afford private session le.
More likely he need to see my detailed financial assessment before he can comment also.

What I am thinking is If can curi ayam ask in Q&A session to get general idea sounds good.
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QUOTE(Jasoncat @ Nov 16 2016, 11:02 PM)
If we refer strictly to the poster, the topic is Tax Strategy in Property Investment and contents include: how to take advantage of Budget 2017, tax efficient ways to invest in property and various taxes implication on property investment.  So in general it seems that it does cover the problems you highlighted.  But how extensive he will talk about it I'm not sure... Alternatively either you raise it during the talk or private conversation with him after the talk.
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Eh mascot bro...how's eg...anymore makan event? Pls share share yeah
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Hey bro, last week EG got banana leaves makan la.....but I didnt make it la.....went for ESC instead ......haha....
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QUOTE(mascot_lim @ Nov 16 2016, 11:19 PM)
Hey bro, last week EG got banana leaves makan la.....but I didnt make it la.....went for ESC instead ......haha....
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Hehe... record breaking day for EM thread biggrin.gif
You want to replicate the same in EG thread? hmm.gif tongue.gif
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Haha, I think probably EG is a bit difficult la, coz that side lack of loyal EW supporters la.......

Btw, I am really salute you guys in EM thread......
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Jialat so much makan fairs u all got...thumbs up  rclxm9.gif
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I think as long as got units remained unsold, there should be more makan event in EG I guess/......
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QUOTE(mascot_lim @ Nov 16 2016, 11:21 PM)
Haha, I think probably EG is a bit difficult la, coz that side lack of loyal EW supporters la.......

Btw, I am really salute you guys in EM thread......
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Always welcome, but pls suit up yeah....n arm yourself with lots of love
We need ppl with more love to share with the depraved ones... rclxm9.gif
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QUOTE(Diver Lim @ Nov 16 2016, 09:56 PM)
These are inseide the precinct?
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Yes..it is inside the precincts. By the way, saraca, samanea & 3B all under P1 west gate which sharing weeping meadow inside same precinct. It is very nice view when view it from the back of weeping meadow.
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QUOTE(mamaky @ Nov 16 2016, 10:01 PM)
These are the weeping meadows? Means for saraca and samenea only rite? Not even for the B series.
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No. weeping meadow is meant for saraca, samanea & 3B. The only different is the location of weeping meadow just beside saraca & samanea but it is also within walking distance from 3B.
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QUOTE(mamaky @ Nov 16 2016, 10:03 PM)
Boss. This is for samanea and saraca only rite? B-series cannot access. Am i rite?
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Can. 3B, saraca & samanea under same gated area.
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damn tiring reading all the 20-30 pages, you big bosses really have the time respond to lyn whole day.
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QUOTE(oreomambo @ Nov 17 2016, 12:29 AM)
damn tiring reading all the 20-30 pages, you big bosses really have the time respond to lyn whole day.
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Bosses all vested in LYN all ho seh one.......sure got time to respond in LYN whole day.....haha.....
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Hey gua sincere wan le. 1 day i retire there if got wat i wish for.
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Boss gua sincere wan as well leh... DPC is still a place many dream for notwithstanding the advent of many nice new township.👍
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QUOTE(mascot_lim @ Nov 17 2016, 04:40 AM)
Bosses all vested in LYN all ho seh one.......sure got time to respond in LYN whole day.....haha.....
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Distraction strategy in play.

What does some tax forum in Penang got to do with developer' s end products not on par as per their makerkting materials?
Speaking of forum,

I will be keen to attend forum on purchasers's rights vs developer's pledge or on housing buyer tribunal

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QUOTE(Jasoncat @ Nov 17 2016, 08:11 AM)
So far see many successful people in life share one common characteristics - keep on learning and exploring.  I guess those who are narrow minded, refuse to learn and always think that there are bad motives behind in some good deeds are perhaps losers in life.
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QUOTE(Jasoncat @ Nov 17 2016, 08:11 AM)
So far see many successful people in life share one common characteristics - keep on learning and exploring.  I guess those who are narrow minded, refuse to learn and always think that there are bad motives behind in some good deeds are perhaps losers in life.
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Its not nice to say people are losers in life...
Winners or losers are all in ones heads.....

Questioning the motive of one person(s) is not considering exploring the answer?
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QUOTE(BREXIT @ Nov 17 2016, 08:02 AM)
Distraction strategy in play.

What does some tax forum in Penang got to do with developer' s end products not on par as per their makerkting materials?
Speaking of forum,

I will be keen to attend forum on purchasers's rights vs developer's pledge or on housing buyer tribunal
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repetitive distraction strategy.
later fengsui cui shui session.

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Boss gua sincere wan as well leh... DPC is still a place many dream for notwithstanding the advent of many nice new township.👍
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QUOTE(mascot_lim @ Nov 16 2016, 11:21 PM)
Haha, I think probably EG is a bit difficult la, coz that side lack of loyal EW supporters la.......

Btw, I am really salute you guys in EM thread......
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haha boss... wait til EG have something to show up first... lol... but I do feel the EG buyers not that active in forum i guess... but i guess now all other EW threads almost the same... except EM... the most excited EW thread currently... rclxms.gif rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(quicksilver9832 @ Nov 16 2016, 10:41 PM)
Eh mascot bro...how's eg...anymore makan event? Pls share share yeah
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EG banana leaves makan makan last weekend... not bad... eat till i jelak.... and then move on to my house next door.... biggrin.gif biggrin.gif
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Bro, 4.40am reply in forum - either you didn't sleep or you are truly an early bird hmm.gif
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Bro, maybe I need to spend whole night to a every single comments in EM thread, as most comments are constructive and informative ma......perhaps this is the reason I stay up till 4.40am?

haha.....

P/s:- Just joking la....
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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Nov 17 2016, 09:33 AM)
haha boss... wait til EG have something to show up first... lol... but I do feel the EG buyers not that active in forum i guess... but i guess now all other EW threads almost the same... except EM... the most excited EW thread currently...  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif
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Indeed, most of the EW related thread are quite silent, except the RM thread.....I am waiting to see probably by end of NOV 2016 we will have another EM new thread of V15 coming soon.....real soon.
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QUOTE(BREXIT @ Nov 16 2016, 06:10 PM)
These are scanned copies of the marketing materials during the launch.

Please note:
Curvy walking path, both lakefront and back lane
Landscaping with trees surrounding the development, backlane.
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As discussed yesterday.
I have took some photos what being committed to buyers with our buyer booklet.
Keep this as record here and we compare again after VP.


This lake outside Cradleton, if you compare with your unit selection earlier, it match exactly. Hence, this should be something they committed earlier.

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All others backlane, entrance, roundabout...
You guys judge yourself. I would bravo for anyone still supporting Developer to do big con job. Good luck to your unit too. You're the encouraging them to do so.
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I suppose this is the curvey backlane you mean in your unit selection drawing too.
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Dear Tai gor, Tai Jie,
May I ask if G&G community (with master title) allows homestay biz?


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Dear Tai gor, Tai Jie,
May I ask if G&G community (with master title) allows homestay biz?
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By right master title under residents title, it's not allowed to use as commercial activities.

However, there are many master title condo being convert to home stay..so I guess not necessarily impossible.


It still depends on your JMB control. Certain residents, guards recognized every single car that in and out. In that sense you might have bigger challange to use as homestay.

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QUOTE(Diver Lim @ Nov 17 2016, 10:39 AM)
As discussed yesterday.
I have took some photos what being committed to buyers with our buyer booklet.
Keep this as record here and we compare again after VP.
This lake outside Cradleton, if you compare with your unit selection earlier, it match exactly. Hence, this should be something they committed earlier.

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All others backlane, entrance, roundabout...
You guys judge yourself. I would bravo for anyone still supporting Developer to do big con job. Good luck to your unit too. You're the encouraging them to do so.
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I suppose this is the curvey backlane you mean in your unit selection drawing too.
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Huh??
These don't look like Cradleton in the launching booklet.

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QUOTE(Diver Lim @ Nov 17 2016, 10:47 AM)
By right master title under residents title, it's not allowed to use as commercial activities.

However, there are many master title condo being convert to home stay..so I guess not necessarily impossible.
It still depends on your JMB control. Certain residents, guards recognized every single car that in and out. In that sense you might have bigger challange to use as homestay.
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Means the residents/JMB have rights to sue the owner?
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QUOTE(Virgin-twins @ Nov 17 2016, 10:47 AM)
Huh??
These don't look like Cradleton in the launching booklet.
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You thought I dare to tell a lie here openly like I am the only one have this booklet?
Sorry I understand your earlier question.
*Not launching booklet. Buyers booklet.
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QUOTE(Virgin-twins @ Nov 17 2016, 10:49 AM)
Means the residents/JMB have rights to sue the owner?
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I don't think op to that extends. Just probably you would have some challange for your guests to entre and exit freedom in long term. Depend on how strict is the execution.
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QUOTE(Diver Lim @ Nov 17 2016, 10:50 AM)
You thought I dare to tell a lie here openly like I am the only one have this booklet?

*ot launching booklet. Buyers booklet.
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no your are not alone i get same booklet also
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QUOTE(Diver Lim @ Nov 17 2016, 10:50 AM)
You thought I dare to tell a lie here openly like I am the only one have this booklet?

*Not launching booklet. Buyers booklet.
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No lah...she is just observant and trying to tell u as a innocent 3rd party the pics u posted on the booklet does not resemble what she sees in the site office of the actual cradleton units as really different on the booklet vs the actual what is seen on site.....haha.. brows.gif
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QUOTE(devil98 @ Nov 17 2016, 10:54 AM)
no your are not alone i get same booklet also
kns backyard garden no eye see now  bye.gif
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Later many selfish buyers and investors would jump out said it's normal to not deliver according to the artist illustrations and buyers booklet. I tell you. You see later. Let's hope good luck to them.
EW would do.better for future precinct. Their argument.

Calling for all diving Cradleton buyers. Selfish Malaysian won't care about you die or alive. It's the time to stand up for your own right.

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QUOTE(hpteoh88 @ Nov 17 2016, 10:55 AM)
No lah...she is just observant and trying to tell u as a innocent 3rd party the pics u posted on the booklet does not resemble what she sees in the site office of the actual cradleton units as really different on the booklet vs the actual what is seen on site.....haha.. brows.gif
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I realized also second time I read. Sorry to her.
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QUOTE(devil98 @ Nov 17 2016, 10:54 AM)
no your are not alone i get same booklet also
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for the sake of the forumer, based on my observations of diver lim contest of spot the difference btw cradleton booklet and real live cradleton house at the site ....pls spot the difference and claim the prizes either from diver lim or EW show gallery pls:

we already know its kns based on the booklet we had fr u know whom:
- lack of tress
- lack of esthetics plants like palm trees, so many palm oil trees in the brochures...
- lack of bushes
- lack of flower of different colours
- round about kns on the plants and bushes
- round about kns on the fountain water
- all carpet grass shown on the booklet...but we are given cow grass to makan....
- look at the trees in brochures....all way above the roof of the double storey hse...
- Even inside the corner hse compound there is a palm oil tree...
- do u see anything of such pics in the cradleton site : https://forum.lowyat.net/uploads/attach-45/...-1479350326.jpg

Thks diver lim for screwing my morning wth ur spot the difference contest..there goes my day.....


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QUOTE(Diver Lim @ Nov 17 2016, 10:55 AM)
Later many selfish buyers and investors would jump out said it's normal to not deliver according to the artist illustrations and buyers booklet. I tell you. You see later. Let's hope good luck to them.
EW would do.better for future precinct. Their argument.

Calling for all diving Cradleton buyers. Selfish Malaysian won't care about you die or alive. It's the time to stand up for your own right.
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when i buy cradleton was told landscape and backyard garden are selling point
by looking timeline should VP soon i doubt there will be any improvement, what can we do now call SA also tell us wait what you see now is not final yet doh.gif

in fact EM is their 1st delivery product in klang valley, if they cant delivery as per promise you think rest project ppl will trust them anymore meh

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when i buy cradleton was told landscape and backyard garden are selling point
by looking timeline should VP soon i doubt there will be any improvement, what can we do now call SA also tell us wait what you see now is not final yet doh.gif

in fact EM is their 1st delivery product in klang valley, if they cant delivery as per promise you think rest project ppl will trust them anymore meh
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Do you see peoples not trusting them? Those Merrydale buyers still very happy and believe strongly that we deserve to get these right?
You didn't see one Merrydale buyer last night keep telling you Cradleton are cheap stuff and very happy Merrydale are good stuff and he is rich to buy Merrydale.


All buyers know EW are refuse to talk to Cradleton buyers anymore..we need to make them answer us.

WIP are not the excuse. We want answer and solutions.

This one progress doesn't seem to ahead us.
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QUOTE(Diver Lim @ Nov 17 2016, 11:14 AM)
Do you see peoples not trusting them? Those Merrydale buyers still very happy and believe strongly that we deserve to get these right?
You didn't see one Merrydale buyer last night keep telling you Cradleton are cheap stuff and very happy Merrydale are good stuff and he is rich to buy Merrydale.
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Bro...cheap or bad stuff....we are talking landscaping lah....landscaping is at common area....if landscaping macam ini at Cradleton side u think they will plant a better fat matchstick ahh... if landscaping near the showhouse also no flowers u think they are going to plant flowers in ur perimeter....go look at some of the Eco Botanic pty houses for sales in some pty for sales websites...eco botanic is premium semi d clusters and semi d...also match stick and no flowers...u think u get it at merrydale double storey hse....hello ...hello earth calling pluto...pls wake up lah

But one thing...from the sales websites can see the Eco Botanic quality finishing based on my eyesight (I qualify myself here) is pretty good...but that is semi-d quality finishing ahh..i qualify myself again...

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QUOTE(Diver Lim @ Nov 17 2016, 11:14 AM)
Do you see peoples not trusting them? Those Merrydale buyers still very happy and believe strongly that we deserve to get these right?
You didn't see one Merrydale buyer last night keep telling you Cradleton are cheap stuff and very happy Merrydale are good stuff and he is rich to buy Merrydale.
All buyers know EW are refuse to talk to Cradleton buyers anymore..we need to make them answer us.

WIP are not the excuse. We want answer and solutions.

This one progress doesn't seem to ahead us.
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Heh ..diver lim...I thought wth all the referral fees u wanna upgrade to Mellowood Parkhomes.....don't be like tat...I don't think EW will give u 10% discount if u criticize here so much....haha
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Bro...cheap or bad stuff....we are talking landscaping lah....landscaping is at common area....if landscaping macam ini at Cradleton side u think they will plant a better fat matchstick ahh... if landscaping near the showhouse also no flowers u think they are going to plant flowers in ur perimeter....go look  at some of the Eco Botanic pty houses for sales in some pty for sales websites...eco botanic is premium semi d clusters and semi d...also match stick and no flowers...u think u get it at merrydale double storey hse....hello ...hello earth calling pluto...pls wake up lah

But one thing...from the sales websites can see the Eco Botanic quality finishing based on my eyesight (I qualify myself here) is pretty good...but that is semi-d quality finishing ahh..i qualify myself again...
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Maybe after Cradleton make noise. Future precinct would really improve.
I am not extreme to after flowers and big trees at least some foundation and.structure have to be there.
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http://www.propertyguru.com.my/property-li...kok-inn-4719749

http://ecoworld.my/ecobotanic/

http://ecoworld.my/ecobotanic/thechateau/concept/

Well u may want to compare if u want for Eco Botanic...but I could not get my hands on the eco botanic sales brochures or booklet..

If u don't do a spot the difference...I consider its ok generally.....as usually Singaporean investors will be very fussy for little things...

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Super hot discussion, seems EW really does have too much on his hands (15 projects running concurrently?) selling on reputation alone with zero performance history....
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QUOTE(Diver Lim @ Nov 17 2016, 11:25 AM)
Maybe after Cradleton make noise. Future precinct would really improve.
I am not extreme to after flowers and big trees at least some foundation and.structure have to be there.
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Actually I feel SEH do quite good job on their landscaping for SEH P3/P2. It is almost same as what they present in their promo video to buyer. In addition to the above, they also invite buyer to visit the site to see on the landscaping progress during their event. I think this is what EW should practice & bring over the same DNA from Setia.
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QUOTE(Diver Lim @ Nov 17 2016, 11:14 AM)
Do you see peoples not trusting them? Those Merrydale buyers still very happy and believe strongly that we deserve to get these right?
You didn't see one Merrydale buyer last night keep telling you Cradleton are cheap stuff and very happy Merrydale are good stuff and he is rich to buy Merrydale.
All buyers know EW are refuse to talk to Cradleton buyers anymore..we need to make them answer us.

WIP are not the excuse. We want answer and solutions.

This one progress doesn't seem to ahead us.
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Also if u get rebuttal by SA or GM, u go tell them in EW video its mentioned EW WORLD CLASS...there is no differentiation btw Cradleton is 3rd class and hence cheaper and lousy this n that vs Merrydale or Tenderfields...is it they explicitly implied Cradleton is not world class but but Merrydale and Tenderfields is world class...

Just like buying a BMW 320i can it implicitly implied that is basic car and hence functionality and quality is 3rd class vs BMW 5 series cars...I buy BMW of any make or models bcos I truly believe in the world class and quality of a german product and there is no differentiation of it...if BMW 320 is 3rd class then why bother changing the air bag of 320 as its 3rd class ..so mati dekat airbag matilah cos we bought 3rd class....

It only happens in msia as we are just too forgiving and too cincai...u mixed wth the orang putih and when u travel a lot overseas to Europe u will know what I mean...so why argue wth the mentality of ppl if they cannot grasp this...that is why all jaguh kampong only...also world class also must make sure if ur projects in overseas is world class...own msian projects must be world class...not like certain cars in msia nevermind but sales of car overseas in UK and Europe is of better export quality....u saw the Hyundai quality show piece showing Hyundai made in korea car vs Hyundai made in usa frontal collision to see that both cars of are same quality to the Korean buyers....
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QUOTE(vincentSEH83 @ Nov 17 2016, 11:49 AM)
Actually I feel SEH do quite good job on their landscaping for SEH P3/P2. It is almost same as what they present in their promo video to buyer. In addition to the above, they also invite buyer to visit the site to see on the landscaping progress during their event. I think this is what EW should practice & bring over the same DNA from Setia.
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Well this is a better landscape pics to show the Eco Botanic...not bad rite...if its good we complement as the fact is the fact...if its bad then the fact is bad...but still I don't see cow grass leh...

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as for the bridges in this pic..i m sure EW will deliver as this type of bridge over the lake was actually delivered and built by EW ...so no worries on this as they may only built this later on after VP..fingers crossed....if Botanic ada I m sure EW semenyih will have it...so u may want to drop this Ecobridge subject...
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QUOTE(hpteoh88 @ Nov 17 2016, 10:55 AM)
No lah...she is just observant and trying to tell u as a innocent 3rd party the pics u posted on the booklet does not resemble what she sees in the site office of the actual cradleton units as really different on the booklet vs the actual what is seen on site.....haha.. brows.gif
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Wah like that also can cucuk... u hor....

ANyway I doubt there is anything house buyers can do except wait for VP.... the legal side EW surely protected... they will tell u its for "ILLUSTRATION" purpose only... or "artist impression".

If the residents are really unhappy (cause to me some seems very happy and satisfied) they can always band together and launch a well crafted blitz campaign on social media... this will hurt EW HARD cause they have too many current products on hand that they cannot afford a hit to their reputation/credibility...
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QUOTE(MeToo @ Nov 17 2016, 11:40 AM)
Super hot discussion, seems EW really does have too much on his hands (15 projects running concurrently?) selling on reputation alone with zero performance history....
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EW over promised in their marketing strategy to sell their products but under performancing in delivery. EW hav not done anything illegally othr thn not so ethical.

" world kelas sales marketing 3rd kelas products delivery. "
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QUOTE(Diver Lim @ Nov 17 2016, 10:39 AM)
As discussed yesterday.
I have took some photos what being committed to buyers with our buyer booklet.
Keep this as record here and we compare again after VP.
This lake outside Cradleton, if you compare with your unit selection earlier, it match exactly. Hence, this should be something they committed earlier.

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You guys judge yourself. I would bravo for anyone still supporting Developer to do big con job. Good luck to your unit too. You're the encouraging them to do so.
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I suppose this is the curvey backlane you mean in your unit selection drawing too.
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Cradleton now is nowhere close to what u show.
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QUOTE(hpteoh88 @ Nov 17 2016, 12:03 PM)
http://www.propertyguru.com.my/property-li...content=premium

Well this is a better landscape pics to show the Eco Botanic...not bad rite...if its good we complement as the fact is the fact...if its bad then the fact is bad...but still I don't see cow grass leh...
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I m one of buyer for ecobotanic. All picture shown is around clubhouse and common area. Inside the housing area, mostly cow grass as well. I was told that before SNP.

Overall environment is nice in EB.
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Funny how some ppl (claimed to be owner) here still defending EM like no tomorrow despite knowing the end product will never be close to what was promised. Only one possibility- EW cyber troopers are real.
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QUOTE(Diver Lim @ Nov 17 2016, 11:14 AM)
Do you see peoples not trusting them? Those Merrydale buyers still very happy and believe strongly that we deserve to get these right?
You didn't see one Merrydale buyer last night keep telling you Cradleton are cheap stuff and very happy Merrydale are good stuff and he is rich to buy Merrydale.
All buyers know EW are refuse to talk to Cradleton buyers anymore..we need to make them answer us.

WIP are not the excuse. We want answer and solutions.

This one progress doesn't seem to ahead us.
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Tht buyer said environment and lifestyle are secondary. So botak lake, botak landscape & toothpick tress inmaterial to him. Inside his house material bery good &:strong. Thts why he so happy with his merrydale.
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QUOTE(soongjoo1984 @ Nov 17 2016, 12:54 PM)
I m one of buyer for ecobotanic. All picture shown is around clubhouse and common area. Inside the housing area, mostly cow grass as well. I was told that before SNP.

Overall environment is nice in EB.
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Hi Soong Joo,

1. How is the internal quality finishing for your semi-d ...any leaks...or etc...how many rectifications needed for your hse?

2. You have taken delivery of VP? if any rectification how was the rectification done to your service level?

3. Another forumer is comparing the sales booklet of the particular phase vs the actual delivery...is it the same or wide difference for your phase?

4. You intend for home stay or for re-sale investment? How is the resale value....what's the % gain above your investment cost?

Thks in advance at least Eco Botanic buyers surface in this forum.....

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QUOTE(hpteoh88 @ Nov 17 2016, 01:04 PM)
Hi Soong Joo,

1. How is the internal quality finishing for your semi-d ...any leaks...or etc...how many rectifications needed for your hse?

2. You have taken delivery of VP? if any rectification how was the rectification done to your service level?

3. Another forumer is comparing the sales booklet of the particular phase vs the actual delivery...is it the same or wide difference for your phase?

4. You intend for home stay or for re-sale investment? How is the resale value....what's the % gain above your investment cost?

Thks in advance at least Eco Botanic buyers surface in this forum.....
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These are the questions I'm interested to know as well...
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QUOTE(Diver Lim @ Nov 17 2016, 10:39 AM)
As discussed yesterday.
I have took some photos what being committed to buyers with our buyer booklet.
Keep this as record here and we compare again after VP.
This lake outside Cradleton, if you compare with your unit selection earlier, it match exactly. Hence, this should be something they committed earlier.

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All others backlane, entrance, roundabout...
You guys judge yourself. I would bravo for anyone still supporting Developer to do big con job. Good luck to your unit too. You're the encouraging them to do so.
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I suppose this is the curvey backlane you mean in your unit selection drawing too.
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So ...diver lim...cow grass at internal precinct is a non-issue now as we did not ask EW if its cow or carpet grass as per a botanic buyer she asked is cow n not carpet...so no more moo moo issue....our ignorance is our fault.....so don't cry over it in ur moo moo sleep.... brows.gif

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So ...diver lim...cow grass at internal precinct is a non-issue now as we did not ask EW if its cow or carpet grass as per a botanic buyer she asked is cow n not carpet...so no more moo moo issue....our ignorance is our fault.....so don't cry over it in ur moo moo sleep.... brows.gif
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Cow grass ?! Can't believe....but again wth
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Very sad that when come to know EM is unable to deliver with what has shown in their broucher...

they prefer spent money and put in marketing than delivering. OF course marketing is important but quality of delivery also important as well.

most of purchasers buying EM due to its nice landscaping (which is the selling point) through it is located at Semenyih. We paid the premium but getting normal landscaping....
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Cow grass ?! Can't believe....but again wth
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sorry ...its a non-issue for the moo moo thing....pls don't bring up the subject as I m trying to get the lim cow to get a good sleep as everything seems to be killing him and his soul..... whistling.gif

Told u ...females are into details n esthetics things like grass and flowers...so if EW can give us the flowers ...then half ur female companions problems will be solved when u moved in ....as her eyes will focus on plants and flowers...she happy will console ur pain in other matters....haha...

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QUOTE(hpteoh88 @ Nov 17 2016, 01:39 PM)
sorry ...its a non-issue for the moo moo thing....pls don't bring up the subject as I m trying to get the lim cow to get a good sleep as everything seems to be killing him and his soul..... whistling.gif

Told u ...females are into details n esthetics things like grass and flowers...so if EW can give us the flowers ...then half ur female companions problems will be solved when u moved in ....as her eyes will focus on plants and flowers...she happy will console ur pain in other matters....haha...
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Better still give us Pretty eco sa for counselling sessions lo rclxms.gif
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Better still give us Pretty eco sa for counselling sessions lo rclxms.gif
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I think u better hang out in pub full of GROs' better for u....
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QUOTE(hpteoh88 @ Nov 17 2016, 11:20 AM)
Bro...cheap or bad stuff....we are talking landscaping lah....landscaping is at common area....if landscaping macam ini at Cradleton side u think they will plant a better fat matchstick ahh... if landscaping near the showhouse also no flowers u think they are going to plant flowers in ur perimeter....go look  at some of the Eco Botanic pty houses for sales in some pty for sales websites...eco botanic is premium semi d clusters and semi d...also match stick and no flowers...u think u get it at merrydale double storey hse....hello ...hello earth calling pluto...pls wake up lah

But one thing...from the sales websites can see the Eco Botanic quality finishing based on my eyesight (I qualify myself here) is pretty good...but that is semi-d quality finishing ahh..i qualify myself again...
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Maybe merrydale will end up having cow flowers too...who knows vmad.gif mega_shok.gif
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I think u better hang out in pub full of GROs' better for u....
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So all precincts will be cow grass, apa macam..
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These are the questions I'm interested to know as well...
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i am phase 2-chateau parkhome buyer. but i do drive around the phase 1 frequently. The common lake and central garden look impressive. But the landscape inside housing area look So-so only.

phase 1 of EB sold out within a day, entry price about 800-900k, now resale market about 950k-1m. but mostly near to HTC. so far haven't hear anyone complaint about the landscaping, but i not sure what EW had promised during SNP for them.

i plan for own stay anyway, hope for the best.
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QUOTE(MeToo @ Nov 17 2016, 12:19 PM)
Wah like that also can cucuk... u hor....

ANyway I doubt there is anything house buyers can do except wait for VP.... the legal side EW surely protected... they will tell u its for "ILLUSTRATION" purpose only... or "artist impression".

If the residents are really unhappy (cause to me some seems very happy and satisfied) they can always band together and launch a well crafted blitz campaign on social media... this will hurt EW HARD cause they have too many current products on hand that they cannot afford a hit to their reputation/credibility...
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If they promise then they have to do it (legal binding or not) or if it's artist impression related or not. Talking about artist impression, I remember I once heard a consultant friend on property related field that it's also legally binding in some form that it should not be too much different from end product. How much that I'm not sure and perhaps someone here with legal background or have a good knowledge can advise us.

However, ethically they cannot mislead the customers. End of. And I'm expecting EW with such reputation to uphold that promise. At least compensate in some forms or explanation to the purchaser if the end product can't be done as per promised.
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QUOTE(Diver Lim @ Nov 17 2016, 11:14 AM)
Do you see peoples not trusting them? Those Merrydale buyers still very happy and believe strongly that we deserve to get these right?
You didn't see one Merrydale buyer last night keep telling you Cradleton are cheap stuff and very happy Merrydale are good stuff and he is rich to buy Merrydale.
All buyers know EW are refuse to talk to Cradleton buyers anymore..we need to make them answer us.

WIP are not the excuse. We want answer and solutions.

This one progress doesn't seem to ahead us.
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Eh Diver...u got a prob with EM not delivering to your expectations, go cry , bang n lambast them, do all u want , no 1 is here to stop u

But dun u come n victimise Merrydale buyers, we are not relevant to your game n rantings...let me emphasise my standpoint...I feel your pain, sorrow and empathise u deeply, ....anything else u need ? thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(Diver Lim @ Nov 17 2016, 10:39 AM)
As discussed yesterday.
I have took some photos what being committed to buyers with our buyer booklet.
Keep this as record here and we compare again after VP.
This lake outside Cradleton, if you compare with your unit selection earlier, it match exactly. Hence, this should be something they committed earlier.

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All others backlane, entrance, roundabout...
You guys judge yourself. I would bravo for anyone still supporting Developer to do big con job. Good luck to your unit too. You're the encouraging them to do so.
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I suppose this is the curvey backlane you mean in your unit selection drawing too.
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This is not Cradleton Lake, this is Merrydale lake.

I believe either Cradleton lake or Merrydale lake, it should be accessed by all the residents (including Cradleton) and public.

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QUOTE(Diver Lim @ Nov 17 2016, 10:39 AM)
As discussed yesterday.
I have took some photos what being committed to buyers with our buyer booklet.
Keep this as record here and we compare again after VP.
This lake outside Cradleton, if you compare with your unit selection earlier, it match exactly. Hence, this should be something they committed earlier.

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All others backlane, entrance, roundabout...
You guys judge yourself. I would bravo for anyone still supporting Developer to do big con job. Good luck to your unit too. You're the encouraging them to do so.
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I suppose this is the curvey backlane you mean in your unit selection drawing too.
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QUOTE(wong8981 @ Nov 17 2016, 01:58 PM)
So all precincts will be cow grass, apa macam..
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QUOTE(soongjoo1984 @ Nov 17 2016, 02:01 PM)
i am phase 2-chateau parkhome buyer. but i do drive around the phase 1 frequently. The common lake and central garden look impressive. But the landscape inside housing area look So-so only.

phase 1 of EB sold out within a day, entry price about 800-900k, now resale market about 950k-1m. but mostly near to HTC. so far haven't hear anyone complaint about the landscaping, but i not sure what EW had promised during SNP for them.

i plan for own stay anyway, hope for the best.
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Well Soong Joo...thks a lot for your feedback....a million thank you for u for surfacing here to clarify for us as Eco Botanic is their 1st strata title landed pty handover to hse purchasers.......

SO ur pty is not handed over as VP to u yet as u did not clarify on any rectifications of ur hse?
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QUOTE(Diver Lim @ Nov 17 2016, 10:39 AM)
As discussed yesterday.
I have took some photos what being committed to buyers with our buyer booklet.
Keep this as record here and we compare again after VP.
This lake outside Cradleton, if you compare with your unit selection earlier, it match exactly. Hence, this should be something they committed earlier.

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All others backlane, entrance, roundabout...
You guys judge yourself. I would bravo for anyone still supporting Developer to do big con job. Good luck to your unit too. You're the encouraging them to do so.
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I suppose this is the curvey backlane you mean in your unit selection drawing too.
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No comment yet on main roundabout of the Cradleton precinct, since not yet built or nobody shown the progress picture before. Got patterned pavement and not tarred road at the roundabout.

Not sure if we plant same number of trees. tongue.gif


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Eh Diver...u got a prob with EM not delivering to your expectations, go cry , bang n lambast them, do all u want , no 1 is here to stop u

But dun u come n victimise Merrydale buyers, we are not relevant to your game n rantings...let me emphasise my standpoint...I feel your pain, sorrow and empathise u deeply, ....anything else u need ? thumbup.gif
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Who interested to know what you joker stand? Silly enough.
You don't kniw how childish and stupid enough you're. I feel EW also feel ashamed on this is how their supporters look like. See how you make how many jokes yesterday. Listed rm600k is 20% profit.

Look at how you behalf yourself everytime gou heard of food and makan... Like hungry ghost. Go Jusco food test every week la.

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QUOTE(Diver Lim @ Nov 17 2016, 10:39 AM)
As discussed yesterday.
I have took some photos what being committed to buyers with our buyer booklet.
Keep this as record here and we compare again after VP.
This lake outside Cradleton, if you compare with your unit selection earlier, it match exactly. Hence, this should be something they committed earlier.

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I suppose this is the curvey backlane you mean in your unit selection drawing too.
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This is the Cradleton Central Garden I suppose, laid at the triangle area of between 1B, 1C and 1D units.

No comment since not sure if already built or never see the progress picture. However, from some of progress I saw before, there will be a Gazebo in this central garden, which is not shown in this picture.. rclxms.gif rclxms.gif


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Who interested to know what you joker stand? Silly enough.
You don't kniw how childish and stupid enough you're. I feel EW also feel ashamed on this is how their supporters look like. See how you make how many jokes yesterday. Listed rm600k is 20% profit.

Look at how you behalf yourself everytime gou heard of food and makan... Like  hungry ghost.
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you are truly a GEM , well done rclxub.gif thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(Diver Lim @ Nov 17 2016, 10:39 AM)
As discussed yesterday.
I have took some photos what being committed to buyers with our buyer booklet.
Keep this as record here and we compare again after VP.
This lake outside Cradleton, if you compare with your unit selection earlier, it match exactly. Hence, this should be something they committed earlier.

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All others backlane, entrance, roundabout...
You guys judge yourself. I would bravo for anyone still supporting Developer to do big con job. Good luck to your unit too. You're the encouraging them to do so.
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I suppose this is the curvey backlane you mean in your unit selection drawing too.
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Not sure where this garden located, but 100% sure not backlane garden, as you can see the corner/end lot of the 4 rows.

Looks to me is the linear garden at the side of cornet lot / end lot.

However, from this picture, already can see there is a slope issue at the units at the back (not sure if it is angle effect) ... laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

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hmm... its getting hotter with personal attacks within owners.... will this thread become like cyber thread where everyone need to cool down abit? lol
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QUOTE(quicksilver9832 @ Nov 17 2016, 02:18 PM)
your bitterness abt your lack of speech with intelligence is again cracking up the daylights in here smile.gif
you are truly a GEM , well done  rclxub.gif  thumbup.gif
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You are oure a idiot that I won't waste anymore time on joker like you.
From day one, you never said anything are informative with point beside "Eco World No 1", "Makan good... Got free food ar?"

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QUOTE(samkps @ Nov 17 2016, 02:18 PM)
This is the Cradleton Central Garden I suppose, laid at the triangle area of between 1B, 1C and 1D units.

No comment since not sure if already built or never see the progress picture. However, from some of progress I saw before, there will be a Gazebo in this central garden, which is not shown in this picture..  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif
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Thks a million bro.....can see u were very helpful at Ecohill LYN forum....see its so nice and helpful of u.... rclxms.gif


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Guys, I need some opinion since you guys talked about Ecohill@Semenyih. I recently got an offer Rumah Selangorku at Villa Kesuma@Semenyih and I working at Bangsar South. What do you think? Is it a good choice? haihh, Im thinking I need to drive so far. Now I just taking LRT since I stay at Setiawangsa. Although the house will be done in end of 2018, now Im worried dy. lol
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QUOTE(samkps @ Nov 17 2016, 02:23 PM)
Not sure where this garden located, but 100% sure not backlane garden, as you can see the corner/end lot of the 4 rows.

Looks to me is the linear garden at the side of cornet lot / end lot.

However, from this picture, already can see there is a slope issue at the units at the back (not sure if it is angle effect) ...  laugh.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif
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This could be 2d the largest units of cradleton near the show hse...there is a deep slope back to the show hse...

I can confirmed there is no backlane garden in the cradleton booklet to us by EW.....
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QUOTE(Diver Lim @ Nov 17 2016, 02:25 PM)
You are oure a idiot that I won't waste anymore time on joker like you.
From day one, you never said anything are informative with point beside "Eco World No 1".
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Just because u lack the balls to confront EM EW via proper channels and all u do here is to make
wild allegations about ppl whom dun agree with your imbecile attitude and depraved mindset...

U can keep accusing me all u want ...but does that really make u a better person ? icon_rolleyes.gif
icon_idea.gif we can always continue with your mudslinging until kingdom comes....fact is u still have to
face your own set of ECO cow grass, lake, gradient, slope ...

I am prepared for mine....are you ? puke.gif
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QUOTE(hpteoh88 @ Nov 17 2016, 02:30 PM)
This could be 2d the largest units of cradleton near the show hse...there is a deep slope back to the show hse...

I can confirmed there is no backlane garden in the cradleton booklet to us by EW.....
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I didn't said these are backlane of all houses. Can easily see no space for that in 15ft dy.
I am showing the general environment level they committed to us.

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hmm... its getting hotter with personal attacks within owners.... will this thread become like cyber thread where everyone need to cool down abit? lol
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If it's too hot, run back to your "comfort zone" threads i.e Hillpark, EG, BSC. Otherwise, just be a silent reader here brows.gif
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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Nov 17 2016, 02:24 PM)
hmm... its getting hotter with personal attacks within owners.... will this thread become like cyber thread where everyone need to cool down abit? lol
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our Diver cant get enough attention from EW officially, lack of balls for 1-1 in person, choose to lambast in here, still
no remediations on his cow grass, slop, drop unit, tar road...
he cant collect enough support from his publicity still.....

Now taking out on me lo ..if dat makes him feel better, why not.. rclxm9.gif
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QUOTE(bingonglee @ Nov 17 2016, 02:29 PM)
Guys,  I need some opinion since you guys talked about Ecohill@Semenyih. I recently got an offer Rumah Selangorku at Villa Kesuma@Semenyih and I working at Bangsar South. What do you think? Is it a good choice? haihh, Im thinking I need to drive so far. Now I just taking LRT since I stay at Setiawangsa. Although the house will be done in end of 2018, now Im worried dy. lol
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try travel there and back from your workplace during peak hours... see whether u can used to the driving distance or not... although u can choose to mrt at kajang... but still need to drive some distance... anyway... its your own feeling that matters... most of the forummers here already bought and having vested interest... so their view might be going against your own feelings...
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QUOTE(Diver Lim @ Nov 17 2016, 02:34 PM)
I didn't said these are backlane of all houses. Can easily see no space for that in 15ft dy.
I am showing the general environment level they committed to us.
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no worries bro...we already narrow down some issues and some non issues....u should appreciate our hooo hah as u can see a pretty gal fr Botanic came up to assist us...u may want to get her phone to assist u or date her when u passed by JB to Sgp....heeheehee...worth the trouble as gal wth a Eco world SEMI- D leh...think about it.....no need stay at homestay...she can give u a room to stay for free...or a minimal fee if u treat her well... rclxms.gif

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QUOTE(8sg9ft @ Nov 17 2016, 02:36 PM)
If it's too hot, run back to your "comfort zone" threads i.e Hillpark, EG, BSC. Otherwise, just be a silent reader here brows.gif
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haha... i do enjoy xia.... rclxms.gif rclxms.gif but then public forum maki maki like this a bit scary xia... like the war at cyber thread... lol...
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QUOTE(cutealex @ Nov 17 2016, 01:37 PM)
Very sad that when come to know EM is unable to deliver with what has shown in their broucher...

they prefer spent money and put in marketing than delivering. OF course marketing is important but quality of delivery also important as well.

most of purchasers buying EM due to its nice landscaping (which is the selling point) through it is located at Semenyih. We paid the premium but getting normal landscaping....
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Actually in the case of EW, the way their business model is ran for the past 3 years, marketing is more important than delivery.

Cause they are actively launching new project without actually completing project and delivering them yet. So, they choose not to wait but rush ahead with 15ish projects in hand, hence their marketing and "perceived" quality is more important to them.

You ask anyone now they will tell you EcoWorld is premium developer, sellign quality stuff... but... are there any track record to prove this point? Or is the marketing arm of EW so good that everyone believes this to be true....
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If it's too hot, run back to your "comfort zone" threads i.e Hillpark, EG, BSC. Otherwise, just be a silent reader here brows.gif
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public forum is meant to be entertaining...1 way or the other brows.gif rclxm9.gif
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QUOTE(bingonglee @ Nov 17 2016, 02:29 PM)
Guys,  I need some opinion since you guys talked about Ecohill@Semenyih. I recently got an offer Rumah Selangorku at Villa Kesuma@Semenyih and I working at Bangsar South. What do you think? Is it a good choice? haihh, Im thinking I need to drive so far. Now I just taking LRT since I stay at Setiawangsa. Although the house will be done in end of 2018, now Im worried dy. lol
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haha... i do enjoy xia....  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif but then public forum maki maki like this a bit scary xia... like the war at cyber thread... lol...
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Ya... it seems to be getting pretty heated here... I actually prefer less personal attacks la... having a more matured discourse is to everyone's benefit...
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QUOTE(Ownstay @ Nov 16 2016, 04:34 PM)
AGREED! I am Cradleton buyer. Feel cheated by sales agent who emphasis the backlane and landscape to us.
Next month to VP but the site progress are not on par to their promises.
I cant accept this kind of backlane and cow grass. No flowers within.the precint? 600k+ are hard earn money, dont treat us like cow.

Ecoworld staff here?
Please IMPROVE those changeable little things for better landscape and backlane.
Delay VP when things are seriously not right. Dont fail us!

Would you?
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Correction...its not 600k...as far as i recall...cradleton price is up to 1m+ for some end/corner le...
Even intermediate for 22×75>700k-750k, 24×75 >800k-850k++.. didnt dig out the actual price...but wouldnt be far away... its not at all a cheap/low price house at all...
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QUOTE(samkps @ Nov 17 2016, 02:02 PM)
This is not Cradleton Lake, this is Merrydale lake.

I believe either Cradleton lake or Merrydale lake, it should be accessed by all the residents (including Cradleton) and public.
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I assume Merrydale and Cradleton almost sharing the lake.
Who print in Cradleton booklet? Anyway, these lakes are outside precinct not belong to who I am not after this.

If that's committed to Merrydale buyers too, how far is the gap witg actual lake that we already seeing? My question are always on too far variant from what they committed.
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QUOTE(8sg9ft @ Nov 17 2016, 02:36 PM)
If it's too hot, run back to your "comfort zone" threads i.e Hillpark, EG, BSC. Otherwise, just be a silent reader here brows.gif
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sorry to disturb u guys in the forum as I m trying to meet my LYN target posts so that I can get 10k status....at least when small kentut ppl also like..... brows.gif
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Cow Grass vs Carpet Grass..

Personally both also acceptable as long as got people maintain it properly.

Of course we hope to have carpet grass, since EM is not for decent and proper only, we want IMPRESSIVE... thumbup.gif thumbup.gif


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Hey guys... chill... no personal attack pls... after all we are EM neighbours. If go too wild, I may close the thread temporary.
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QUOTE(MeToo @ Nov 17 2016, 02:39 PM)
Ya... it seems to be getting pretty heated here... I actually prefer less personal attacks la... having a more matured discourse is to everyone's benefit...
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sorry to disturb u guys in the forum as I m trying to meet my LYN target posts so that I can get 10k status....at least when small kentut ppl also like..... brows.gif
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let me meet my KPI first today rclxms.gif bruce.gif
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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Nov 17 2016, 02:38 PM)
haha... i do enjoy xia....  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif but then public forum maki maki like this a bit scary xia... like the war at cyber thread... lol...
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QUOTE(MeToo @ Nov 17 2016, 02:39 PM)
Ya... it seems to be getting pretty heated here... I actually prefer less personal attacks la... having a more matured discourse is to everyone's benefit...
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Indeed. Don't see the point of personal attacks in a property thread, really.
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QUOTE(shawnk @ Nov 17 2016, 02:01 PM)
If they promise then they have to do it (legal binding or not) or if it's artist impression related or not. Talking about artist impression, I remember I once heard a consultant friend on property related field that it's also legally binding in some form that it should not be too much different from end product. How much that I'm not sure and perhaps someone here with legal background or have a good knowledge can advise us.

However,  ethically they cannot mislead the customers. End of. And I'm expecting EW with such reputation to uphold that promise. At least compensate in some forms or explanation to the purchaser if the end product can't be done as per promised.
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I'm not a lawyer (despite having a second LLB degree), I'm pretty sure you will not have much avenue to press your claims against a developer on landscaping that does not meet your personal standard. I'll bet there is nothing in the S&P that outlines how the landscaping is to be done.

Hence the only recourse for the buyers is to take it to social media and hit them where they hurt.. at their reputation. If they build up their premium tag reputation based on promises alone, and being shown they dont live up to their promises would be very damaging.
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QUOTE(Diver Lim @ Nov 17 2016, 02:40 PM)
I assume Merrydale and Cradleton almost sharing the lake.
Who print in Cradleton booklet? Anyway, these lakes are outside precinct not belong to who I am not after this.

If that's committed to Merrydale buyers too, how far is the gap witg actual lake that we already seeing? My question are always on too far variant from what they committed.
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Aiyo, Cradleton Lake and Merrydale lake are connected, but not same lake lah..

Study the masterplan of cradleton lake and merrydale lake properly, you will notice merrydale lake equipped with much further features, as shown in the picture.

However, be it merrydale lake or cradleton lake, both lakes also can be acccessed by all EM residents and public ler...

Of course print in the booklet, part of attraction also mah, no? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Nov 17 2016, 02:42 PM)
yea... especially some of them gona be neighbour soon... wouldn't it be awkward if they really face off each others in RA meetings or maybe on the road... and somehow feel the pain from personal attacks...  blink.gif  blink.gif
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QUOTE(MeToo @ Nov 17 2016, 02:38 PM)
Actually in the case of EW, the way their business model is ran for the past 3 years, marketing is more important than delivery.

Cause they are actively launching new project without actually completing project and delivering them yet. So, they choose not to wait but rush ahead with 15ish projects in hand, hence their marketing and "perceived" quality is more important to them.

You ask anyone now they will tell you EcoWorld is premium developer, sellign quality stuff... but... are there any track record to prove this point? Or is the marketing arm of EW so good that everyone believes this to be true....
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time will tell...but u need to credit EW for expanding so fast in Msia and in international mkt.....

Pty development strategy is simple...once u acquired land..u need to finance and pay for the empty land...to overcome cost of finance you need to launch the fastest way to sell off all the hses so to lighten off the cost of financing and now its all about carpet bombing like Country garden in JB .....marketing strategy and advertisements work for a short while only..after that the wow and herd factor will loose steam....
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QUOTE(samkps @ Nov 17 2016, 02:41 PM)
Cow Grass vs Carpet Grass..

Personally both also acceptable as long as got people maintain it properly.

Of course we hope to have carpet grass, since EM is not for decent and proper only, we want IMPRESSIVE...  thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif
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ah...dats a good pic comparison..i agree ..i m OK either way rclxms.gif
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sorry to disturb u guys in the forum as I m trying to meet my LYN target posts so that I can get 10k status....at least when small kentut ppl also like..... brows.gif
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lol... i doubt anyone really care about post count.... but in this public forum... discussion will be good... and a good forum thread my transform into a better neighbourhood... smile.gif smile.gif
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Indeed. Don't see the point of personal attacks in a property thread, really.
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You check back that jokers nonesense comments from day one. Does he every raised anything important and useful?
Ask him to stop many times. Still trying to show power...
Balls balls kind of comments. How childish.
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Hey guys... chill... no personal attack pls... after all we are EM neighbours.  If go too wild, I may close the thread temporary.
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sorry to disturb u guys in the forum as I m trying to meet my LYN target posts so that I can get 10k status....at least when small kentut ppl also like..... brows.gif
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The only good thing to blow until 10k status is you will be "trained" until don't care much about the so called personal attack already, kacang nia... brows.gif
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QUOTE(Diver Lim @ Nov 17 2016, 02:46 PM)
You check back that jokers nonesense comments from day one. Does he every raised anything important and useful?
Ask him to stop many times. Still trying to show power...
Balls balls kind of comments. How childish.
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QUOTE(Jasoncat @ Nov 17 2016, 02:41 PM)
Hey guys... chill... no personal attack pls... after all we are EM neighbours.  If go too wild, I may close the thread temporary.
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Hahaha...so u can throw the circuit breaker like the KLSE mkt when all of a sudden the mkt collapsed....

Glad to know there is a umpire watching all of us...
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QUOTE(samkps @ Nov 17 2016, 02:46 PM)
The only good thing to blow until 10k status is you will be "trained" until don't care much about the so called personal attack already, kacang nia...  brows.gif
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QUOTE(samkps @ Nov 17 2016, 02:41 PM)
Cow Grass vs Carpet Grass..

Personally both also acceptable as long as got people maintain it properly.

Of course we hope to have carpet grass, since EM is not for decent and proper only, we want IMPRESSIVE...  thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif
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Cow grass is much easier to maintain and much much more durable (and is cheapest by far)

Carpet grass, though it might seem nice, would end up having patches of brown dried stuff (especially if you are looking at the nicer japanese carpet grass), if you go the philippines carpet grass... they can tahan our weather but i feel they tend to grow abit fast, so you need regular trimming.... if u cut them short short again they will dry out and leave brown patches.
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QUOTE(samkps @ Nov 17 2016, 02:44 PM)
Aiyo, Cradleton Lake and Merrydale lake are connected, but not same lake lah.. 

Study the masterplan of cradleton lake and merrydale lake properly, you will notice merrydale lake equipped with much further features, as shown in the picture.

However, be it merrydale lake or cradleton lake, both lakes also can be acccessed by all EM residents and public ler...

Of course print in the booklet, part of attraction also mah, no?  hmm.gif
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Actually in the case of EW, the way their business model is ran for the past 3 years, marketing is more important than delivery.

Cause they are actively launching new project without actually completing project and delivering them yet. So, they choose not to wait but rush ahead with 15ish projects in hand, hence their marketing and "perceived" quality is more important to them.

You ask anyone now they will tell you EcoWorld is premium developer, sellign quality stuff... but... are there any track record to prove this point? Or is the marketing arm of EW so good that everyone believes this to be true....
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QUOTE(MeToo @ Nov 17 2016, 02:43 PM)
I'm not a lawyer (despite having a second LLB degree), I'm pretty sure you will not have much avenue to press your claims against a developer on landscaping that does not meet your personal standard. I'll bet there is nothing in the S&P that outlines how the landscaping is to be done.

Hence the only recourse for the buyers is to take it to social media and hit them where they hurt.. at their reputation. If they build up their premium tag reputation based on promises alone, and being shown they dont live up to their promises would be very damaging.
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if there is no contractual obligation...u can still sue if u had rely on the hearsay and u made a monetary loss to urself based on the hearsay....
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QUOTE(mthc @ Nov 17 2016, 02:49 PM)
Branding brother.

Tan&Tan - village park nasi lemak

Ecoworld - succulent tender deep fried chicken with aromatic Asian spice batter served with coconut fragrant jasmine rice complemented by chef TSL secret sweet and spicy Sam all chili topped with roasted Malaysian peanuts and broiled anchovies
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ini manyak geng cao.... thumbup.gif thumbup.gif

hence the marketing arm of EW is good... they create such hallucination to their potential buyers... and TSL track record from SPS....
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QUOTE(hpteoh88 @ Nov 17 2016, 02:48 PM)
Hahaha...so u can throw the circuit breaker like the KLSE mkt when all of a sudden the mkt collapsed....

Glad to know there is a umpire watching all of us...
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QUOTE(Diver Lim @ Nov 17 2016, 02:34 PM)
I didn't said these are backlane of all houses. Can easily see no space for that in 15ft dy.
I am showing the general environment level they committed to us.
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Diver gor, I suggest that you may gather cradleton buyer and talk to EW on your concern. This is what SEH RA done about the fencing issue for P1 even before house vpe. If Evon cant resolved your concern, you can write email to their CEO & Tan Sri. SEH RA also do the same last time when they unable to get what they want from SEH mgmt.

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QUOTE(hpteoh88 @ Nov 17 2016, 02:44 PM)
time will tell...but u need to credit EW for expanding so fast in Msia and in international mkt.....

Pty development strategy is simple...once u acquired land..u need to finance and pay for the empty land...to overcome cost of finance you need to launch the fastest way to sell off all the hses so to lighten off the cost of financing and now its all about carpet bombing like Country garden in JB .....marketing strategy and advertisements work for a short while only..after that the wow and herd factor will loose steam....
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I think they are aware that the hype factor will only last so long if without any real quality delivery to back them up. Thats why they are launching so many projects concurrently while still riding high on their premium tag hype. I lost count how many projects they have right now.... seriously its not easy to monitor/manage 10+ projects that is under construction at the same time.... talent problem etc.


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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Nov 17 2016, 02:51 PM)
ini manyak geng cao....  thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif

hence the marketing arm of EW is good... they create such hallucination to their potential buyers... and TSL track record from SPS....
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its all coming soon, VP time, surely there will be media coverage, GOOD n BAD, it should be unveil to all n public by then

now is all abt .......goreng prelude to VP....remember how the 3 presidential debates until the climax of actual election ? rclxms.gif
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Guys,  I need some opinion since you guys talked about Ecohill@Semenyih. I recently got an offer Rumah Selangorku at Villa Kesuma@Semenyih and I working at Bangsar South. What do you think? Is it a good choice? haihh, Im thinking I need to drive so far. Now I just taking LRT since I stay at Setiawangsa. Although the house will be done in end of 2018, now Im worried dy. lol
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Boss, there are so many rumah selangorku, why must take the offer from villa kesuma townhouse?

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QUOTE(hpteoh88 @ Nov 17 2016, 02:50 PM)
if there is no contractual obligation...u can still sue if u had rely on the hearsay and u made a monetary loss to urself based on the hearsay....
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THis line of argument generally goes down to "he say she say", with no way to back up either party's claims. As for proving monetary loss, you have to prove you rely on what the SA allegedly say etc etc and that there is actual monetary loss. In my uninformed opinion, legal recourse is not feasible, ofcourse you can try.
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QUOTE(quicksilver9832 @ Nov 17 2016, 02:53 PM)
its all coming soon, VP time, surely there will be media coverage, GOOD n BAD, it should be unveil to all n public by then

now is all abt .......goreng prelude to VP....remember how the 3 presidential debates until the climax of actual election ? rclxms.gif
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i think.... if the product is really not good... sooner or later after VP everything will be revealed... by that time use the force of social media i.e facebook... the most effective method to hurt a business... i will help u guys share it as well to create pressure to EW... haha... in forum... basically they deem the pool too small for them to really threaten them... biggrin.gif biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(quicksilver9832 @ Nov 17 2016, 02:53 PM)
its all coming soon, VP time, surely there will be media coverage, GOOD n BAD, it should be unveil to all n public by then

now is all abt .......goreng prelude to VP....remember how the 3 presidential debates until the climax of actual election ? rclxms.gif
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Um... why would there be media coverage? Unless its awesome then EW will invite the media and start sending spiels to them. Otherwise its up to the the home owners to start complaining to the media...
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QUOTE(vincentSEH83 @ Nov 17 2016, 02:51 PM)
Diver gor, I suggest that you may gather cradleton buyer and talk to EW on your concern. This is what SEH RA done about the fencing issue for P1 even before house vpe. If Evon cant resolved your concern, you can write email to their CEO & Tan Sri. SEH RA also do the same last time when they unable to get what they want from SEH mgmt.
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Yes that's what I suggested too. Gather the buyers and find a solution- of course talk to EM Mgmt side is the sure thing need to be done first. Then strategize accordingly based on the outcome.

Publisize in the media can be an approach to be used but I think not at this stage.
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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Nov 17 2016, 02:58 PM)
i think.... if the product is really not good... sooner or later after VP everything will be revealed... by that time use the force of social media i.e facebook... the most effective method to hurt a business... i will help u guys share it as well to create pressure to EW... haha... in forum... basically they deem the pool too small for them to really threaten them...  biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif
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thanks bro...social media ...dun think EW will dare to play....actual facts VS brochures, big diff, gonna be a real blowout to them mega_shok.gif
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QUOTE(MeToo @ Nov 17 2016, 02:56 PM)
THis line of argument generally goes down to "he say she say", with no way to back up either party's claims. As for proving monetary loss, you have to prove you rely on what the SA allegedly say etc etc and that there is actual monetary loss. In my uninformed opinion, legal recourse is not feasible, ofcourse you can try.
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what I trying to say...nope u will not win as u did not incurred financial loss.....hard to prove landscaping less 10 trees affect the mkt value....n u make a loss of resale value..
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QUOTE(Diver Lim @ Nov 17 2016, 02:34 PM)
I didn't said these are backlane of all houses. Can easily see no space for that in 15ft dy.
I am showing the general environment level they committed to us.
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Huh, not backlane of all houses, but for some houses? Where is the backlane garden picture? doh.gif doh.gif


QUOTE(Diver Lim @ Nov 17 2016, 10:39 AM)
As discussed yesterday.
I have took some photos what being committed to buyers with our buyer booklet.
Keep this as record here and we compare again after VP.
This lake outside Cradleton, if you compare with your unit selection earlier, it match exactly. Hence, this should be something they committed earlier.

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You guys judge yourself. I would bravo for anyone still supporting Developer to do big con job. Good luck to your unit too. You're the encouraging them to do so.
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I suppose this is the curvey backlane you mean in your unit selection drawing too.
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QUOTE(MeToo @ Nov 17 2016, 02:58 PM)
Um... why would there be media coverage? Unless its awesome then EW will invite the media and start sending spiels to them. Otherwise its up to the the home owners to start complaining to the media...
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EM thread so hot liao, n EM being acclaimed to first landed GG in Greater KV , if they dun publicise, something is really wayyyy too wrong / fishy

N based on my observations, in the past some important events ie. Toll opening has media coverage tongue.gif

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QUOTE(Jasoncat @ Nov 17 2016, 03:00 PM)
Yes that's what I suggested too. Gather the buyers and find a solution- of course talk to EM Mgmt side is the sure thing need to be done first. Then strategize accordingly based on the outcome.

Publisize in the media can be an approach to be used but I think not at this stage.
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I believe EW willing listen to buyer feedback as they know keeping of long term customer like diver gor very important. Unless EW refuse to do anything after buyer feedback then no choice need go to media. Dun forget that they are very good in media so it is no easy job also.
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QUOTE(samkps @ Nov 17 2016, 03:02 PM)
Huh, not backlane of all houses, but for some houses? Where is the backlane garden picture?  doh.gif  doh.gif
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I think what he meant was the OPEN SPACE at the back of some hses...not the back lane of a hse to hse back lane.....
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QUOTE(quicksilver9832 @ Nov 17 2016, 03:03 PM)
EM thread so hot liao, n EM being acclaimed to first landed GG in Greater KV , if they dun publicise, something is really wayyyy too wrong / fishy

N based on my observations, in the past some important events ie. Toll opening has media coverage tongue.gif
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Media these days very lazy de...

They will not go (and have no reason to) unless invited by EW.... OR if they think there is a big controversial scoop
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QUOTE(Jasoncat @ Nov 17 2016, 03:00 PM)
Yes that's what I suggested too. Gather the buyers and find a solution- of course talk to EM Mgmt side is the sure thing need to be done first. Then strategize accordingly based on the outcome.

Publisize in the media can be an approach to be used but I think not at this stage.
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Already blow more than 50 pages, until now, still nothing concrete to discuss about EW not fulfilling the landscape. doh.gif doh.gif

Nadayu 92 Kajang, next to TH, strata title.

Dunno they have NadaGate issue or not, but NadaSlope issue sure have lah.. laugh.gif laugh.gif

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QUOTE(hpteoh88 @ Nov 17 2016, 03:05 PM)
I think what he meant was the OPEN SPACE at the back of some hses...not the back lane of a hse to hse back lane.....
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QUOTE(samkps @ Nov 17 2016, 02:55 PM)
Boss, there are so many rumah selangorku, why must take the offer from villa kesuma townhouse?

If your priority is convenient to work, just stay back at Setiawangsa ler..
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Hmmm,to be honest thats the only offer that I got. LOL. Haiz, any other point? hahhaha cause Im now confused dy, dont know whether is a good choice or not. cry.gif
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QUOTE(bingonglee @ Nov 17 2016, 03:09 PM)
Hmmm,to be honest thats the only offer that I got. LOL. Haiz, any other point? hahhaha cause Im now confused dy, dont know whether is a good choice or not.  cry.gif
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Rent a unit in Semenyih, near to SEH/EM, after one month come back to share your experience to us. rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif
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QUOTE(samkps @ Nov 17 2016, 03:06 PM)
Already blow more than 50 pages, until now, still nothing concrete to discuss about EW not fulfilling the landscape.  doh.gif  doh.gif

Nadayu 92 Kajang, next to TH, strata title.

Dunno they have NadaGate issue or not, but NadaSlope issue sure have lah..  laugh.gif  laugh.gif
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i think his issue is the extra staircase alike slab that may cause the front of his house like water fall during rain... haha... if they able to flat it out the slope like the nadayu... he may not have much problem with it...
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QUOTE(samkps @ Nov 17 2016, 03:02 PM)
Huh, not backlane of all houses, but for some houses? Where is the backlane garden picture?  doh.gif  doh.gif
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If you read properly, I am actually replying the borther Brexit who mentioned curve backlane in the unit selection sheet.
So I said " this should be the curvey backlane you mean."

I didn't say backlane of everyone. I simply crop out a few.
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Running out of pop corn very soon. LYN getting all the super win with ad counts from the fast and furious discussions. Anyway here is my point of view. "if cradleton maju, the upcoming phases also maju". If we get a rocky and dissatisfied VP of Cradleton, the disease will spread (like it is spreading here). I am a buyer of tenderlion and if i feel my Cradleton brothers getting the fever, I am concern about them. I've directed the LYN thread to SAs just recently so they can have a good look at buyers concern.

However, Cradelton brothers and sisters need to also wear the thinking cap
1) Box housing for tree at back lane - Tree will outgrow, cracking their concrete housing. Near where i stay, the commercial units having these in form of supersize vase, all of them cracked with roots and sand spilling. Better just beautify the backlane with practical greenery.
2) Slopes - Can't run away from it. Nearly dived into Jade Hill 3 years back. Like the hill and slopes. One man meat can be another's poison
3) Brochure vs reality - EW need to beef up on that department. Else the rep will be known for beautiful fantasy rendered picture ...only. Plants can be done still since it is strata and EW is part of the strata team. But preferred to be part of VP. First impression of buyers being shown around on their VP day is golden. Do it right.


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QUOTE(bingonglee @ Nov 17 2016, 03:09 PM)
Hmmm,to be honest thats the only offer that I got. LOL. Haiz, any other point? hahhaha cause Im now confused dy, dont know whether is a good choice or not.  cry.gif
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just wait and apply furthermore... i am sure there will be rumah slenagorku jump out at a better location... their price wont gone too haywire as it is subsidize to make it affordable... unless u used to travel such distance like us...
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QUOTE(MeToo @ Nov 17 2016, 03:05 PM)
Media these days very lazy de...

They will not go (and have no reason to) unless invited by EW.... OR if they think there is a big controversial scoop
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the assumption is based on EW EM team ...akin to a Nothing to Hide session smile.gif
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QUOTE(Diver Lim @ Nov 17 2016, 03:11 PM)
If you read properly, I am actually replying the borther Brexit who mentioned curve backlane in the unit selection sheet.
So I said " this should be the curvey backlane you mean."

I didn't say backlane of everyone. I simply crop out a few.
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Okie okie.. Misundestand your backlane, brexit backlane and EM backlane, too many backlanes, I confuse.. confused.gif confused.gif
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QUOTE(samkps @ Nov 17 2016, 03:06 PM)
Already blow more than 50 pages, until now, still nothing concrete to discuss about EW not fulfilling the landscape.  doh.gif  doh.gif

Nadayu 92 Kajang, next to TH, strata title.

Dunno they have NadaGate issue or not, but NadaSlope issue sure have lah..  laugh.gif  laugh.gif
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the barrier of the balcony looks funny...how much is the hse and the built up area?
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QUOTE(samkps @ Nov 17 2016, 03:11 PM)
Rent a unit in Semenyih, near to SEH/EM, after one month come back to share your experience to us.  rclxm9.gif  rclxm9.gif
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hahah that sounds scary. LOL. I need mentally prepare for 2years. hahha Im went there, but during weekend only. Travel time just 30-35mins. Quite okay. But I cannot imagine how bad it is during peak hours. LEKAS highway not help ah?
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QUOTE(samkps @ Nov 17 2016, 03:14 PM)
Okie okie.. Misundestand your backlane, brexit backlane and EM backlane, too many backlanes, I confuse..  :confused:  :confused:
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This thread went too fast today.

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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Nov 17 2016, 03:11 PM)
i think his issue is the extra staircase alike slab that may cause the front of his house like water fall during rain... haha... if they able to flat it out the slope like the nadayu... he may not have much problem with it...
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this is a non issue in cradleton....there is drain slaps to take in the water ....look at the pics in front of the hse.....also there is a planting area next to the retaining wall to absord any car wash water...
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QUOTE(hpteoh88 @ Nov 17 2016, 03:15 PM)
the barrier of the balcony looks funny...how much is the hse and the built up area?
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Boss, sorry, can't spoon feed you ler..

You have 120 pages homework to do..

https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1717498

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QUOTE(bingonglee @ Nov 17 2016, 03:16 PM)
hahah that sounds scary. LOL. I need mentally prepare for 2years. hahha Im went there, but during weekend only. Travel time just 30-35mins. Quite okay. But I cannot imagine how bad it is during peak hours. LEKAS highway not help ah?
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the effect will be compounded when toll rate rises across the board next yr....double whammy bangwall.gif
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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Nov 17 2016, 03:11 PM)
i think his issue is the extra staircase alike slab that may cause the front of his house like water fall during rain... haha... if they able to flat it out the slope like the nadayu... he may not have much problem with it...
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Rooftop staircase also.
Why everybody able to improve only EW can't ?
Even Nadayu look better than Cradleton still. Why EW must be the last one to compare who worse?
Anyway, I clarify again. I been pass on this slope things long time ago as nothing can be improve anymore. I am just responding when there are forumers bring up again.

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QUOTE(Diver Lim @ Nov 17 2016, 03:11 PM)
If you read properly, I am actually replying the borther Brexit who mentioned curve backlane in the unit selection sheet.
So I said " this should be the curvey backlane you mean."

I didn't say backlane of everyone. I simply crop out a few.
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yes this is the biggest unit...it slopes back to the show hse lah.....the land quite steep..u can look at the drone video by the 3rd party....don't think u will get that landscaping per the booklet the last time I saw the drone video..
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QUOTE(bingonglee @ Nov 17 2016, 03:16 PM)
hahah that sounds scary. LOL. I need mentally prepare for 2years. hahha Im went there, but during weekend only. Travel time just 30-35mins. Quite okay. But I cannot imagine how bad it is during peak hours. LEKAS highway not help ah?
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Lol.. Nobody is same lah, the golden quote of the thread "one man's meat is another man's poison".

You have to tried yourself, then you will know the detail and lubang mah...

You can just make decision based on 10 people tell you YES/NO in the forum meh? sweat.gif sweat.gif These 10 people also some never been to Semenyih before oh... laugh.gif laugh.gif

The only thing I can tell you is if using the Lekas Ecohill link, jam free in and out from Semenyih currently. Jam only in other areas.. bangwall.gif bangwall.gif

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QUOTE(Diver Lim @ Nov 17 2016, 03:19 PM)
Rooftop staircase also.
Why everybody able to improve only EW can't ?
Even Nadayu look better than Cradleton still. Why EW must be the last one to compare who worse?
Anyway, I clarify again. I been pass on this slope things long time ago as nothing can be improve anymore. I am just responding when there are forumers bring up again.
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haha yea... i can see that... its a very specific issue where some other guys make it like a genting issue... now is the landscaping issues that needed to be headache....
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QUOTE(hpteoh88 @ Nov 17 2016, 03:17 PM)
this is a non issue in cradleton....there is drain slaps to take in the water ....look at the pics in front of the hse.....also there is a planting area next to the retaining wall to absord any car wash water...
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oh is it... haha.... thanks for the enlightenment bro.... it will be better if the whole project on top of a flat hill... get the advantage of higher ground... and no sloping issue...
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On Lekas part how much longer we need to use Touch N go?
No Smart tag le. When are they going to start using the new system?
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QUOTE(Diver Lim @ Nov 17 2016, 03:28 PM)
On Lekas part how much longer we need to use Touch N go?
No Smart tag le. When are they going to start using the new system?
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Now only 1-2 little kittens using the EM link, TnG already more than sufficient liao.

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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Nov 17 2016, 03:25 PM)
oh is it... haha.... thanks for the enlightenment bro.... it will be better if the whole project on top of a flat hill... get the advantage of higher ground... and no sloping issue...
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by then..the price will be diff by easily another 50-100k or maybe more
but seeing Mellwood, dat shd be the flatest amongst all
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QUOTE(quicksilver9832 @ Nov 17 2016, 03:31 PM)
by then..the price will be diff by easily another 50-100k or maybe more
but seeing Mellwood, dat shd be the flatest amongst all
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well going forward... properties in semenyih will keep on increase in pricing... and getting further down south... landed here will be more precious... if given enough time to hold it... of course better land structure can also contribute to the rise...
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Diver gor, I suggest that you may gather cradleton buyer and talk to EW on your concern. This is what SEH RA done about the fencing issue for P1 even before house vpe. If Evon cant resolved your concern, you can write email to their CEO & Tan Sri. SEH RA also do the same last time when they unable to get what they want from SEH mgmt.
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instead of Diver Gor gather cradleton buyers, i think EM especially Evon should take the initiative to gather buyers regarding all issue highlighted here.
I'm sure EM are monitoring those issues but they are reluctant to act accordingly because after snp signed ( > 95% sold) then this is their WORLD... and ...ECO WORLD tongue.gif
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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Nov 17 2016, 03:34 PM)
well going forward... properties in semenyih will keep on increase in pricing... and getting further down south... landed here will be more precious... if given enough time to hold it... of course better land structure can also contribute to the rise...
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hopefuly lor...saw in thestar, now even seacera is coming in ???

Seremban market value contributes another catching net - semi D n double storey terrace link homes are on the rise too

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instead of Diver Gor gather cradleton buyers, i think EM especially Evon should take the initiative to gather buyers regarding all issue highlighted here.
I'm sure EM are monitoring those issues but they are reluctant to act accordingly because after snp signed ( > 95% sold) then  this is their WORLD... and ...ECO WORLD  tongue.gif
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hopefuly lor...saw in thestar, now even seacera is coming in ???

Seremban market value contributes another catching net - semi D n double storey terrace link homes are on the rise too
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is there another project by seacera... but they are small player la... wont impact much on the existing semenyih projects... instead they might just ride the hype of SPS and EW...

seremban properties also getting closer to the price of semenyih soon... i dont think their demand better than semenyih... but who knows... seremban ppl like to stay closer to klang valley on the seremban 2 side... lol
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Now only 1-2 little kittens using the EM link, TnG already more than sufficient liao.
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How wonder.how soon they would start using? 2018?
It is by Lekas side. Not questioning EW so don't understand.
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hopefuly lor...saw in thestar, now even seacera is coming in ???

Seremban market value contributes another catching net - semi D n double storey terrace link homes are on the rise too
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Seacera call off the project, still no link yet from Silk to Nirvana.. sweat.gif sweat.gif


http://www.theedgeproperty.com.my/content/...worth-rm220-mil


I&P sure will come in lah... rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif

http://m.thestar.com.my/story.aspx?hl=IP-p...6FEA30A1DFE6%7D

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How wonder.how soon they would start using? 2018?
It is by Lekas side. Not questioning EW so don't understand.
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Depend on crowds loh, if more and more people using then will start loh..

My personal thought only lah... brows.gif
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money in pocket already ....next plsssss
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QUOTE(samkps @ Nov 17 2016, 03:41 PM)
Seacera call off the project, still no link yet from Silk to Nirvana..  sweat.gif  sweat.gif
http://www.theedgeproperty.com.my/content/...worth-rm220-mil
I&P sure will come in lah...  rclxm9.gif  rclxm9.gif

http://m.thestar.com.my/story.aspx?hl=IP-p...6FEA30A1DFE6%7D
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I&P Alam Impian... Still hanging bottleneck. Hard to move forward. I am not convince they would contribute much here.

Although heard of commercial in Alam Impian are going to kick start soon.

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Seacera call off the project, still no link yet from Silk to Nirvana..  sweat.gif  sweat.gif
http://www.theedgeproperty.com.my/content/...worth-rm220-mil
I&P sure will come in lah...  rclxm9.gif  rclxm9.gif

http://m.thestar.com.my/story.aspx?hl=IP-p...6FEA30A1DFE6%7D
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I&P Alam Impian... Still hanging, can't develop. Hard to move forward. I am not convince they would contribute much here.
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if this is the Eco World philosophy... then wish them Good Luck in the future.
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agreed on the alam impian side... the occupancy and commies still very slow despite VP liao quite some time... and also might be affected its at shah alam... hence the slower growth...
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Don't know why Gamuda manage to make magic happen in Shah Alam last time.
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Cradleton slope not so bad la. This one looks bad - Aman Putri Sg Buloh. Pic from google street view.


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Cradleton slope not so bad la. This one looks bad - Aman Putri Sg Buloh. Pic from google street view.
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hahahaha... theres an official stairs for it...
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hahahaha... theres an official stairs for it...
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see...like dat also can be accepted, how much is this place ? shdnt be cheap i believe...let me guess 800k min ?
how abt Talam, maybe that will comfort even more smile.gif
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see...like dat also can be accepted, how much is this place ? shdnt be cheap i believe...let me guess 800k min ?
how abt Talam, maybe that will comfort even more smile.gif
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hahahaha... theres an official stairs for it...
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oh....well still a steal i guess smile.gif
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Cradleton slope not so bad la. This one looks bad - Aman Putri Sg Buloh. Pic from google street view.
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thats 3 steps every 2 hses....u have ur own 3 steps...
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Lol..  Nobody is same lah, the golden quote of the thread "one man's meat is another man's poison".

You have to tried yourself, then you will know the detail and lubang mah...

You can just make decision based on 10 people tell you YES/NO in the forum meh?  sweat.gif  sweat.gif  These 10 people also some never been to Semenyih before oh...  laugh.gif  laugh.gif


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wow...not many trees planted......most trees are at the central garden.....from the bare eyes cannot see many trees planted at the front of the hse.....

Cradleton complaint so much...more compact at Botanic due to cost of land more expensive...
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just wait and apply furthermore... i am sure there will be rumah slenagorku jump out at a better location... their price wont gone too haywire as it is subsidize to make it affordable... unless u used to travel such distance like us...
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Tht buyer said environment and lifestyle are secondary. So botak lake, botak landscape & toothpick tress inmaterial to him. Inside his house material bery good &:strong. Thts why he so happy with his merrydale.
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its proven afterall not so botak in my view, compare with others sure there are plenty more nicer ones; by the way why are u so concerned with Merrydale buyer expectations ?
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hahaha no laa, actually its my first house, im still young  icon_rolleyes.gif need helps from u guys to give me a feedback. Cant find rumah lower than 300k in kl which is impossible. haih. so sad.... thats the only rumah that i can afford to buy. with the price. can buy la in kl, but all my salary goes to pay rumah, eat pasir only hahah. I know u know better thats why . haha
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u may need to get OUT at around 6am or u will need to get into silk highway and pay around 3 tolls.....

Yes ...need to change the mind perception now in a ulu area...or suggest change job to cyberjaya or bangi or nearer to ur hse....unless u do ur own biz cannot say much...
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no la bro... i think initially launch around 500k to 600k... but for two years ago... its consider expensive for non landscaping, non F&G project... haha
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SB develop easily 5 years to 10 years earlier than Semenyih.
Many no gate communities was there I think over 6 years.
Rm500k landed house 2 years ago in SB are not premium at all.

Anyway, these slope are worse than Cradleton, it's true. Who's the developer?
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Im afraid if I wait more, lower chances to get and the price keep rise and rise every year. aiyoo. die edy le like this... now Im in dilemma edy.  sad.gif
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whats your budget ? EH EM has affordbale hpusing too
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u may need to get OUT at around 6am or u will need to get into silk highway and pay around 3 tolls.....

Yes ...need to change the mind perception now in a ulu area...or suggest change job to cyberjaya or bangi or nearer to ur hse....unless u do ur own biz cannot say much...
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get a job dat works from home ...dat shd help rclxms.gif
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I believe everyone should move past the terrain issue now, honestly.
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agreed wth u...the more u compare the more heartache....nothing much to complaint also.....not that it helps in any way...its just like a run away train more than 50 pages in 2 days....whoooo
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You guys move too fast... couldn't catch up already.
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wow...not many trees planted......most trees are at the central garden.....from the bare eyes cannot see many trees planted at the front of the hse.....

Cradleton complaint so much...more compact at Botanic due to cost of land more expensive...
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QUOTE(Diver Lim @ Nov 17 2016, 04:19 PM)
SB develop easily 5 years to 10 years earlier than Semenyih.
Many no gate communities was there I think over 6 years.
Rm500k landed house 2 years ago in SB are not premium at all.

Anyway, these slope are worse than Cradleton, it's true. Who's the developer?
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Glomac. Not actually in Sg Buloh, quite far, near paya jaras. For that price consider premium for that place.
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You guys move too fast... couldn't catch up already.
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QUOTE(Diver Lim @ Nov 17 2016, 04:19 PM)
SB develop easily 5 years to 10 years earlier than Semenyih.
Many no gate communities was there I think over 6 years.
Rm500k landed house 2 years ago in SB are not premium at all.

Anyway, these slope are worse than Cradleton, it's true. Who's the developer?
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Glomac.
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QUOTE(Diver Lim @ Nov 17 2016, 04:19 PM)
SB develop easily 5 years to 10 years earlier than Semenyih.
Many no gate communities was there I think over 6 years.
Rm500k landed house 2 years ago in SB are not premium at all.

Anyway, these slope are worse than Cradleton, it's true. Who's the developer?
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but this part is closer to elmina side as at 2-3 years ago... not the matured SB side... the developer is PPC GLomac... joint venture between glomac and PPC... PPC is the overall project manager...
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Glomac.
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u may need to get OUT at around 6am or u will need to get into silk highway and pay around 3 tolls.....

Yes ...need to change the mind perception now in a ulu area...or suggest change job to cyberjaya or bangi or nearer to ur hse....unless u do ur own biz cannot say much...
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Im working in IT related area. In two years time might be will change job to cyberjaya. lol 6am ah? If stay at setiawangsa I only leave house at 9 lol. cry.gif . I masuk kerja at 10am , its possible if I leave house at 830 can reach office before 10. rite riteee?
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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Nov 17 2016, 04:25 PM)
but this part is closer to elmina side as at 2-3 years ago... not the matured SB side... the developer is PPC GLomac... joint venture between glomac and PPC... PPC is the overall project manager...
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This project called Aman Putri. Initial launching price around RM390K on 4 years ago. Their workmenship is very bad.
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Im afraid if I wait more, lower chances to get and the price keep rise and rise every year. aiyoo. die edy le like this... now Im in dilemma edy.  sad.gif
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if focusing only on government projects... i dont think will rise drastically every year la... haha... but then private projects... then another matter already... the best for u to buy is rumawip... but Im sure your IC address is not in KL... so really just wait...
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whats your budget ? EH EM has affordbale hpusing too
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Hmm to low my budget, the Villa Kesuma is only rm243k, how can afford EM cry.gif
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QUOTE(ubi1kelubi @ Nov 17 2016, 04:23 PM)
Glomac. Not actually in Sg Buloh, quite far, near paya jaras. For that price consider premium for that place.
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Glomac are multi industry organization. Property development are very small portion of their business.
Are you a buyer?
Interested to know also, have you been share/presented how worse the slope would be before buying?
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This project called Aman Putri. Initial launching price around RM390K on 4 years ago. Their workmenship is very bad.
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yea... initially i tot glomac is in... should be okay... but the owners say they dealt with PPC mostly... glomac just share the profit and ciao... just slot in to help out PPC to develop this area...
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QUOTE(bingonglee @ Nov 17 2016, 04:26 PM)
Im working in IT related area. In two years time might be will change job to cyberjaya. lol 6am ah? If stay at setiawangsa I only leave house at 9 lol.  cry.gif . I masuk kerja at 10am , its possible if I leave house at 830 can reach office before 10. rite riteee?
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A lot of IT job in bangi & cyberjaya. Depend on u want work at IT company or bank IT center.
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get a job dat works from home ...dat shd help  rclxms.gif
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I can work from home, but only for one day, maybe I can apply more than one day, hahah.
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This project called Aman Putri. Initial launching price around RM390K on 4 years ago. Their workmenship is very bad.
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Rm390k landed house. I think EW are proud to be better than them.
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Glomac. Not actually in Sg Buloh, quite far, near paya jaras. For that price consider premium for that place.
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my fren just recently bought one hse there she told me its glomac near sg buloh....its leasehold rite?
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Hmm to low my budget, the Villa Kesuma is only rm243k, how can afford EM  cry.gif
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Glomac are multi industry organization. Property development are very small portion of their business.
Are you a buyer?
Interested to know also, have you been share/presented how worse the slope would be before buying?
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The slope is super serious as I did consider bought this property when developer launched but luckily i do not bought it. I remember they nvr mention about the slope when selling the hse
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A lot of IT job in bangi & cyberjaya. Depend on u want work at IT company or bank IT center.
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Hahaha now in IT company. Should be easier if I work in cyberjaya. But I see the distance is not that much from Semenyih - Cyberjaya & Semenyih - Bangsar South? LOL maybe Im wrong. But the jammed could be less.
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my fren just recently bought one hse there she told me its glomac near sg buloh....its leasehold rite?
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its freehold... hence the attraction point... and location beside elmina... but then no landscaping no F&G... no nothing... one way in one way out... haha...
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i thought theres also some apartment right outside EM, 200+ ask sampks he taikor in Semenyih  brows.gif  rclxm9.gif
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Really ah? Well its actually can get appartment around that figure. But they still need to pay for downpayment. Fyi, this villa kesuma dont need to pay.. I just started working 1 year plus, (can say like fresh grad la) where to get 10% downpayment. thats one of my concern too
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Im working in IT related area. In two years time might be will change job to cyberjaya. lol 6am ah? If stay at setiawangsa I only leave house at 9 lol.  cry.gif . I masuk kerja at 10am , its possible if I leave house at 830 can reach office before 10. rite riteee?
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alamak u kerja pukul 10 am already solve ur jammed problems lah....if u work at 9 am then u get up at around 6am lah...i think if u bangun get out 9am u r already not clash wth the ppl working at 9am...lucky guy.....what time u off work lah...
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QUOTE(Diver Lim @ Nov 17 2016, 04:28 PM)
Glomac are multi industry organization. Property development are very small portion of their business.
Are you a buyer?
Interested to know also, have you been share/presented how worse the slope would be before buying?
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he is not the buyer... haha... but previously i did visited this project... the SA didn't told me anything about slope that time... just keep on hogging on freehold, strategic location, cheap... and hopefully u will buy... and i visited around 2 years ago... where the price already 500k plus plus...
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QUOTE(vincentSEH83 @ Nov 17 2016, 04:27 PM)
This project called Aman Putri. Initial launching price around RM390K on 4 years ago. Their workmenship is very bad.
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glomac is not famous for workmanship...but recent yrs they tried to go high end mkt...there is a big project called canal city near puchong.....
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QUOTE(vincentSEH83 @ Nov 17 2016, 04:30 PM)
The slope is super serious as I did consider bought this property when developer launched but luckily i do not bought it. I remember they nvr mention about the slope when selling the hse
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QUOTE(hpteoh88 @ Nov 17 2016, 04:30 PM)
my fren just recently bought one hse there she told me its glomac near sg buloh....its leasehold rite?
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It is a freehold property by PPC. They have another project called saujana utama which done by Glomac itself at puncak alam
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QUOTE(bingonglee @ Nov 17 2016, 04:33 PM)
Really ah? Well its actually can get appartment around that figure. But they still need to pay for downpayment. Fyi, this villa kesuma dont need to pay.. I just started working 1 year plus, (can say like fresh grad la) where to get 10% downpayment. thats one of my concern too
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200+ shd be possible for u ...also theres Gov and state program to ensure 300/ 400k below housing program
100% loan i heard too
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QUOTE(Diver Lim @ Nov 17 2016, 04:28 PM)
Glomac are multi industry organization. Property development are very small portion of their business.
Are you a buyer?
Interested to know also, have you been share/presented how worse the slope would be before buying?
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QUOTE(vincentSEH83 @ Nov 17 2016, 04:30 PM)
The slope is super serious as I did consider bought this property when developer launched but luckily i do not bought it. I remember they nvr mention about the slope when selling the hse
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under my consideration also last time but that time the project already completed. Buyer cant do anything since there is no objection from Majlis Perbandaran for CCC. The house fit to use.
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QUOTE(bingonglee @ Nov 17 2016, 04:29 PM)
I can work from home, but only for one day, maybe I can apply more than one day, hahah.
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wow 1 day ...hey dats not bad...most big companies all allow at least 1 -2 days
then semenyih is for u rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(hpteoh88 @ Nov 17 2016, 04:33 PM)
alamak u kerja pukul 10 am already solve ur jammed problems lah....if u work at 9 am then u get up at around 6am lah...i think if u bangun get out 9am u r already not clash wth the ppl working at 9am...lucky guy.....what time u off work lah...
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hehe, no punch card ma, can get in any time as long work done rclxm9.gif . can go back early if come in early, go back late if come in late. usually 630 balik rumah dy, . depends, still can contiue at home.
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hehe, no punch card ma, can get in any time as long work done  rclxm9.gif . can go back early if come in early, go back late if come in late. usually 630 balik rumah dy, . depends, still can contiue at home.
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grab faster, later when economy recovers, semeyih high rise will break 300 easily
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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Nov 17 2016, 04:31 PM)
its freehold... hence the attraction point... and location beside elmina... but then no landscaping no F&G... no nothing... one way in one way out... haha...
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No wonder you know well.
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Erm..the hse is quite small and no living hall at upstair plus showhse quality no really good. Who know the actual hse is worst than showhse. Built up around 1450sq only but the price is cheap & freehold. The location just beside Gethie highway.
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QUOTE(hpteoh88 @ Nov 17 2016, 04:37 PM)
i do know if its near elmina..there is around more than 3 highways in n out...
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hmm... from map it seems beside elmina... but the road access from township to the highway will be quite a distance... compare to elmina.... haha...
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QUOTE(ubi1kelubi @ Nov 17 2016, 04:36 PM)
under my consideration also last time but that time the project already completed. Buyer cant do anything since there is no objection from Majlis Perbandaran for CCC. The house fit to use.
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It must be quite serious at that time until you commented :no objection from Majlis Perbandaran for CCC. The house fit to use."

Some action were taken by buyers?
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grab faster, later when economy recovers, semeyih high rise will break 300 easily
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means, its a good choice ? should be okay gua? right? haha
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QUOTE(bingonglee @ Nov 17 2016, 04:45 PM)
means, its a good choice ? should be okay gua? right? haha
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good choice or bad choice ...welcome to si beh ulu place and we can yumcha when we moved in...we can take u swan fishing then...sorry mistake...duck fishing...

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well...price wise considered ok lo...location wise not too bad, since we even have seremban ppl ..klang ppl travelling way up to KL for work

go for it , only for ownstay, investment wise, need long holding power
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QUOTE(Diver Lim @ Nov 17 2016, 04:42 PM)
It must be quite serious at that time until you commented :no objection from Majlis Perbandaran for CCC. The house fit to use."

Some action were taken by buyers?
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What I mean is, if buyer complaint, they don't have the ground since the developer had done their job, nothing wrong with the house since local authorities already issued CCC which is the house is safe to live. Same goes with your cradleton, EW have no obligation to fix the slope.

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QUOTE(ubi1kelubi @ Nov 17 2016, 04:48 PM)
What I mean is, if buyer complaint, they don't have the ground since the developer had done their job, nothing wrong with the house since local authorities already issued CCC which is the house is safe to live. Same goes with your cradleton, EW have no obligation to fix the slope.
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For Cradleton part I know. I have clarify many many times I already pass on slope as I know nothing we can do.

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QUOTE(Diver Lim @ Nov 17 2016, 04:54 PM)
Smart and wisdom are different..these short sight developer thought they are smart but no wisdom to understand what they are losing.

For Cradleton part I know. I have clarify many many times I already pass on slope as I know nothing we can do.
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Actually cradleton slope is no so serious as Aman Putri lor. Consider acceptable
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QUOTE(vincentSEH83 @ Nov 17 2016, 04:56 PM)
Actually cradleton slope is no so serious as Aman Putri lor. Consider acceptable
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well he already moved on liao on the slope issue... i guess the next is whether there is any project that upon VP... their landscaping is not as what they promised initially when they launched the project...
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QUOTE(quicksilver9832 @ Nov 17 2016, 04:47 PM)
well...price wise considered ok lo...location wise not too bad, since we even have seremban ppl ..klang ppl travelling way up to KL for work

go for it , only for ownstay, investment wise, need long holding power
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QUOTE(vincentSEH83 @ Nov 17 2016, 04:56 PM)
Actually cradleton slope is no so serious as Aman Putri lor. Consider acceptable
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Thanks for your kind.contributions. Let's move on from slope part okay?
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You are oure a idiot that I won't waste anymore time on joker like you.
From day one, you never said anything are informative with point beside "Eco World No 1", "Makan good... Got free food ar?"
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Underdog is better then running dog .

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QUOTE(hpteoh88 @ Nov 17 2016, 04:47 PM)
good choice or bad choice ...welcome to si beh ulu place and we can yumcha when we moved in...we can take u swan fishing then...sorry mistake...duck fishing...
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Can, let me know when, haha
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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Nov 17 2016, 04:58 PM)
well he already moved on liao on the slope issue... i guess the next is whether there is any project that upon VP... their landscaping is not as what they promised initially when they launched the project...
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since landscapping is predominantly a heated contest and heavy weightage on expectations - so far has there been any open standards to declare which ones fail or succeed ? Any award / contest ? or its all down to individual expectations varies
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Can, let me know when, haha
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QUOTE(quicksilver9832 @ Nov 17 2016, 05:04 PM)
since landscapping is predominantly a heated contest and heavy weightage on expectations - so far has there been any open standards to declare which ones fail or succeed ? Any award / contest ? or its all down to individual expectations varies
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well in this context... can only compare against township that give promises like EW did i think... otherwise... no matter what also wouldn't be fair comparison... and so far... not much developers willing to give promises on landscaping like EW did except SPS maybe... even IJM, SDB, Gamuda also didn't emphasize their landscaping that much during project launching... hence owners will be happier if there are found anything familiar compare to brochures i guess... biggrin.gif biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Diver Lim @ Nov 17 2016, 04:54 PM)
Smart and wisdom are different..these short sight developer thought they are smart but no wisdom to understand what they are losing.

For Cradleton part I know. I have clarify many many times I already pass on slope as I know nothing we can do.
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The developer will try anything to save cost during construction and to meet deadline, sometime it will jeopardize the quality. We as a buyer will be on losing side.
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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Nov 17 2016, 05:07 PM)
well in this context... can only compare against township that give promises like EW did i think... otherwise... no matter what also wouldn't be fair comparison... and so far... not much developers willing to give promises on landscaping like EW did except SPS maybe... even IJM, SDB, Gamuda also didn't emphasize their landscaping that much during project launching... hence owners will be happier if there are found anything familiar compare to brochures i guess...  biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif
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i see ...thanks bro; so all in all thee is no open standards to guage and certify landscaping officially
Maybe we should have the official VP include landscape as part of it, since maintenance fee is something all have to pay eventually for upkeeping

Otherwise, u see , i feel will not come to any good , surely there will be huge gaps of expectations between buyers VS developers, and moreover as brochures rendering as become part of marketing gimmick, VP law should be enlarged to protect buyers who bought in based on landscaping too nod.gif
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QUOTE(quicksilver9832 @ Nov 17 2016, 05:12 PM)
i see ...thanks bro; so all in all thee is no open standards to guage and certify landscaping officially
Maybe we should have the official VP include landscape as part of it, since maintenance fee is something all have to pay eventually for upkeeping

Otherwise, u see , i feel will not come to any good , surely there will be huge gaps of expectations between buyers VS developers, and moreover as brochures rendering as become part of marketing gimmick, VP law should be enlarged to protect buyers who bought in based on landscaping too nod.gif
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somehow... this may be how the property in Msia works... its quite sad actually... thats why most of the project launching i went... they will just emphasize on the general concepts... but they will not show you their commitment on the tiny details... thats the way is it... hopefully there is law that enable buyers to sue the developers based on their marketing brochures and photos and even bypass the disclaimer statement set on the brochure...
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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Nov 17 2016, 05:15 PM)
somehow... this may be how the property in Msia works... its quite sad actually... thats why most of the project launching i went... they will just emphasize on the general concepts... but they will not show you their commitment on the tiny details... thats the way is it... hopefully there is law that enable buyers to sue the developers based on their marketing brochures and photos and even bypass the disclaimer statement set on the brochure...
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agree...but on a holistic manner i think the current VP law shd be amended , if landscapping has been part of selling / sames goes for brochure renderings ; then it should be part of the VP checklist, otherwise skip here change that, end of the day, buyers at the ones losing and frustrated
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Yes, idiot , i think he is EM running dog,
Underdog is better then running dog .
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wah ...poor poor underdog...u really can catch us up like a jack bunny..good for u...our miow miow also cannot catch up so fast...by the time u replied it will be another 10 postings faster then ur replied...good job.....
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Yes, idiot , i think he is EM running dog,
Underdog is better then running dog .
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Y u guys wanna play gang up ah... rclxms.gif
Bring it on bruce.gif

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wah ...poor poor underdog...u really can catch us up like a jack bunny..good for u...our miow miow also cannot catch up so fast...by the time u replied it will be another 10 postings faster then ur replied...good job.....
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Name itself already sound so dodgy...what to expect rclxm9.gif hmm.gif
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QUOTE(hpteoh88 @ Nov 17 2016, 05:30 PM)
wah ...poor poor underdog...u really can catch us up like a jack bunny..good for u...our miow miow also cannot catch up so fast...by the time u replied it will be another 10 postings faster then ur replied...good job.....
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Y u guys wanna play gang up ah... rclxms.gif
Bring it on  bruce.gif

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Lol... whatever dog, Slumdog Millionaire is the best I guess
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Wah. This thread moves so fast. I am lost. I can imagine how the discussions will be like when VP. 10x more complaints
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QUOTE(MeToo @ Nov 17 2016, 02:43 PM)
I'm not a lawyer (despite having a second LLB degree), I'm pretty sure you will not have much avenue to press your claims against a developer on landscaping that does not meet your personal standard. I'll bet there is nothing in the S&P that outlines how the landscaping is to be done.

Hence the only recourse for the buyers is to take it to social media and hit them where they hurt.. at their reputation. If they build up their premium tag reputation based on promises alone, and being shown they dont live up to their promises would be very damaging.
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I am of the view that plants and landscaping need time to mature. So as long as EM is doing the maintenance and upkeep, in due course the landscaping will become nice.

Just like Desa Park City, I visited that place many times in 2008 and when i visited the place again recently, it was much nicer than I remember it to be.

I am not blindly supporting EM to say that it will be as nice or rival DPC but i am just stating the fact that it will need time to mature.
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QUOTE(mamaky @ Nov 17 2016, 12:55 PM)
Funny how some ppl (claimed to be owner) here still defending EM like no tomorrow despite knowing the end product will never be close to what was promised. Only one possibility- EW cyber troopers are real.
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Everyone is entitled to their opinion,and , the troopers really did some pretty good job.
I have seen their works across multiple forums, and the works are pretty elaborate and efficient.

Also, I have noted some troopers indicating that they are purchasers' too.

Maybe it is time the trooper assist in highlighting to the mgt the purchasers' concerns
The troopers are after all, purchasers too.
So, it's win win for the troopers.
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QUOTE(BREXIT @ Nov 17 2016, 06:54 PM)
Everyone is entitled to their opinion,and , the troopers really did some pretty good job.
I have seen their works across multiple forums, and the works are pretty elaborate and efficient.

Also, I have noted some troopers indicating that they are purchasers' too.

Maybe it is time the trooper assist in highlighting to the mgt the purchasers' concerns 
The troopers are after all, purchasers too.
So, it's win win for the troopers.
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Have u guys even wondered there is a grp of owners who just can't be bothered with too much details - down to every aspect of things ? Now there u go for some food of thought....

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QUOTE(poker @ Nov 17 2016, 06:46 PM)
I am of the view that plants and landscaping need time to mature. So as long as EM is doing the maintenance and upkeep, in due course the landscaping will become nice.

Just like Desa Park City, I visited that place many times in 2008 and when i visited the place again recently, it was much nicer than I remember it to be.

I am not blindly supporting EM to say that it will be as nice or rival DPC but i am just stating the fact that it will need time to mature.
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We understand. We are fighting for a better foundation.
Small trees there would grow. No trees there how to grow?

Eg: naked lake...Already naked where got trees amd plants to grow? Just example on what sort of foundation we means... Not really that we are requesting exactly illustrations kind of trees.

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Who gonna take a lead and feedback to EM rather just complaint here?
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QUOTE(cutealex @ Nov 17 2016, 07:24 PM)
Who gonna take a lead and feedback to EM rather just complaint here?
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To be honest, I would prefer EM to fix these issues themselves after reading this thread.
It's a shame that EM needs buyers to remind them how bad their end product is (1st project to VP in KV) to get things fixed.
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QUOTE(Diver Lim @ Nov 17 2016, 07:20 PM)
We understand. We are fighting for a better foundation.
Small trees there would grow. No trees there how to grow?

Eg: naked lake...Already naked where got trees amd plants to grow? Just example on what sort of foundation we means... Not really that we are requesting exactly illustrations kind of trees.
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I am with you guys too. We need EM to lay a good foundation for the landscape to flourish. I am also one of the purchaser so I am all for it if we can push EM to deliver what they promise.

I am sure they are monitoring social medias and forums.
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QUOTE(poker @ Nov 17 2016, 07:38 PM)
I am with you guys too. We need EM to lay a good foundation for the landscape to flourish. I am also one of the purchaser so I am all for it if we can push EM to deliver what they promise.

I am sure they are monitoring social medias and forums.
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QUOTE(mamaky @ Nov 17 2016, 07:33 PM)
To be honest, I would prefer EM to fix these issues themselves after reading this thread.
It's a shame that EM needs buyers to remind them how bad their end product is (1st project to VP in KV) to get things fixed.
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Exactly the point.
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QUOTE(poker @ Nov 17 2016, 07:38 PM)
I am with you guys too. We need EM to lay a good foundation for the landscape to flourish. I am also one of the purchaser so I am all for it if we can push EM to deliver what they promise.

I am sure they are monitoring social medias and forums.
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QUOTE(poker @ Nov 17 2016, 07:38 PM)
I am with you guys too. We need EM to lay a good foundation for the landscape to flourish. I am also one of the purchaser so I am all for it if we can push EM to deliver what they promise.

I am sure they are monitoring social medias and forums.
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Speaking of lane, let's take a trip down memory lane.
The marketing team did a good job in crafting the hype-some said they queued up one night.
Great hype in quiet town.

What touched me most was when I came across one old Chinese lady,
It was high noon, and She was standing outside the shop lot at a quiet corner when she came across tan sri.

she shakily shook both her hands with tan sri's and with a trembling voice, she said, thank you for letting me buy a unit.

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QUOTE(cutealex @ Nov 17 2016, 07:24 PM)
Who gonna take a lead and feedback to EM rather just complaint here?
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You lo hehe
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QUOTE(Diver Lim @ Nov 17 2016, 03:45 PM)
I&P Alam Impian... Still hanging bottleneck. Hard to move forward. I am not convince they would contribute much here.

Although heard of commercial in Alam Impian are going to kick start soon.
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First thing come into your mind from I&P is Alam Impian instead of Kinrara Puchong? hmm.gif hmm.gif

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Hopefully someone builds a link to NS highway soon
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I will raise hand and foot to support this... thumbsup.gif thumbsup.gif

But sadly owners here more concern on cow grass / carpet grass and either 5 trees or 10 trees.... sad.gif sad.gif

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QUOTE(bingonglee @ Nov 17 2016, 04:15 PM)
hahaha no laa, actually its my first house, im still young  icon_rolleyes.gif need helps from u guys to give me a feedback. Cant find rumah lower than 300k in kl which is impossible. haih. so sad.... thats the only rumah that i can afford to buy. with the price. can buy la in kl, but all my salary goes to pay rumah, eat pasir only hahah. I know u know better thats why . haha
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I think it is pretty hard for you to get solid answer here on your query. Everyone has own priority, preference, tolerance and perception. What forummer tell you may not something really reflect to the actual condition also.

Instead of commit a few hundred thousands ringgit based on some random comments here, why not just spare some little money and have a trial run on actual living hood? If after that you can accept it and fits within your priority and preference, then proceed. If not then just forget about this area and consider other project loh.

Not sure about your preference, in addition to town house, also can put medium cost apartments offered by Setia Ecohill or EcoMajestic as consideration as well.

SEH apartment starts from RM 262k before discount while EM apartments starts from RM300k++ if not mistaken.
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QUOTE(samkps @ Nov 17 2016, 08:59 PM)
drool.gif  drool.gif  drool.gif  drool.gif
I will raise hand and foot to support this...   :thumbsup:  :thumbsup:

But sadly owners here more concern on cow grass / carpet grass and either 5 trees or 10 trees....  sad.gif  sad.gif
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Someone to build, who?

Eco World committed to build?
So we can raise our request to them to build also?

Our request on Landscaping conflict with the highway link?

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Who gonna take a lead and feedback to EM rather just complaint here?
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Pls count me in as well if any1 will lead n feedback to EW.
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How many more buyers need an.official meet up with EW too.

I know it's a disappointment for us to take initiative cause they choose to ignore even after seeing all our concerns.
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QUOTE(poker @ Nov 17 2016, 07:38 PM)
I am with you guys too. We need EM to lay a good foundation for the landscape to flourish. I am also one of the purchaser so I am all for it if we can push EM to deliver what they promise.

I am sure they are monitoring social medias and forums.
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No worry. got few EW cybertroopers defending the fortress. pretty sure they hav to submit daily report to their bosses
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QUOTE(Diver Lim @ Nov 17 2016, 09:20 PM)
Someone to build, who?

Eco World committed to build?
So we can raise our request to them to build also?

Our request on Landscaping conflict with the highway link?
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No conflict at all... We all don't want decent and proper only, we want EM to be impressive mah... thumbup.gif thumbup.gif
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Have u guys even wondered there is a grp of owners who just can't be bothered with too much details - down to every aspect of things ? Now there u go for some food of thought....
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nobody is stopping u to buzz off...so why r u still here buzzzing in n out .......
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QUOTE(poker @ Nov 17 2016, 07:38 PM)
I am with you guys too. We need EM to lay a good foundation for the landscape to flourish. I am also one of the purchaser so I am all for it if we can push EM to deliver what they promise.

I am sure they are monitoring social medias and forums.
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u bought cradleton?
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QUOTE(BREXIT @ Nov 17 2016, 07:56 PM)
Speaking of lane, let's take a trip down memory lane.
The marketing team did a good job in crafting the hype-some said they queued up one night.
Great hype in quiet town.

What touched me most was when I came across one old Chinese lady,
It was high noon, and She was standing outside the shop lot at a quiet corner when she came across tan sri.

she shakily shook both her hands with tan sri's and with a trembling voice, she said, thank you for letting me buy a unit.
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i met an old man sat beside me on launching day...he told me he wants to buy d RM580k for his son about 21 yrs old and still schooling...he sat beside me and kept looking and figuring out which unit to buy..his son was somewhere eating n when the allocation started his son was bz looking inside the showroom to see which unit was available...his son came back told him only limited units for RM580k and by half hr his son came back told him all of this units was sold off and he was devastated n sad.... i thought he gave up and left but i saw him later hanging out near the allocation room wth his son peeking to see other units...he ended up purchasing a RM630k of the 20x70 size.... this is the sacrifice of the parents to the children... morale of the story is ...yes its hard earned money used to buy a hse which relatively not cheap...n purchasers expect some form of quality or return in their investments....also u could see his tears coming down when told only limited units of 580k and he was grumbling why so many units sold off to staff and associates and suppliers....giving false hopes to old ppl its only 580k....so in life dont grumble lah...look around u ppl suffering to meet ends meet...he even asks around pls i can only give u RM500 of the referal fees only...sad isnt it..

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How many more buyers need an.official meet up with EW too.

I know it's a disappointment for us to take initiative cause they choose to ignore even after seeing all our concerns.
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+1

already highlighted in prev post, EM should take initiative since they hv all our contacts, easy for them to answer all our problems and puzzles directly instead of keep silent (may be + cunning smile...).
Again, EM pls do something and don't show your arrogant after deal done.
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QUOTE(samkps @ Nov 17 2016, 09:53 PM)
No conflict at all... We all don't want decent and proper only, we want EM to be impressive mah...  thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif
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impressive also not enough.....Faultless rclxms.gif
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nobody is stopping u to buzz off...so why r u still here buzzzing in n out .......
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impressive also not enough.....Faultless  rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(hpteoh88 @ Nov 17 2016, 10:11 PM)
i met an old man sat beside me on launching day...he told me he wants to buy d RM580k for his son about 21 yrs old and still schooling...he sat beside me and kept looking and figuring out which unit to buy..his son was somewhere eating n when the allocation started his son was bz looking inside the showroom to see which unit was available...his son came back told him only limited units for RM580k and by half hr his son came back told him all of this units was sold off and he was devastated n sad.... i thought he gave up and left but i saw him later hanging out near the allocation room wth his son peeking to see other units...he ended up purchasing a RM630k of the 20x70 size.... this is the sacrifice of the parents to the children... morale of the story is ...yes its hard earned money used to buy a hse which relatively not cheap...n purchasers expect some form of quality or return in their investments....also u could see his tears coming down when told only limited units of 580k and he was grumbling why so many units sold off to staff and associates and suppliers....giving false hopes to old ppl its only 580k....so in life dont grumble lah...look around u ppl suffering to meet ends meet...he even asks around pls i can only give u RM500 of the referal fees only...sad isnt it..
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What developer care is to meet the sales target. How much is their target this year? 4 billion? Not much more EM can contribute. Move on to other projects lor.
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hooray... Perfect 10 for EM....  rclxm9.gif  rclxm9.gif
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They dare to call themselve world class ler.. Haih.
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QUOTE(hpteoh88 @ Nov 17 2016, 10:11 PM)
i met an old man sat beside me on launching day...he told me he wants to buy d RM580k for his son about 21 yrs old and still schooling...he sat beside me and kept looking and figuring out which unit to buy..his son was somewhere eating n when the allocation started his son was bz looking inside the showroom to see which unit was available...his son came back told him only limited units for RM580k and by half hr his son came back told him all of this units was sold off and he was devastated n sad.... i thought he gave up and left but i saw him later hanging out near the allocation room wth his son peeking to see other units...he ended up purchasing a RM630k of the 20x70 size.... this is the sacrifice of the parents to the children... morale of the story is ...yes its hard earned money used to buy a hse which relatively not cheap...n purchasers expect some form of quality or return in their investments....also u could see his tears coming down when told only limited units of 580k and he was grumbling why so many units sold off to staff and associates and suppliers....giving false hopes to old ppl its only 580k....so in life dont grumble lah...look around u ppl suffering to meet ends meet...he even asks around pls i can only give u RM500 of the referal fees only...sad isnt it..
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Alamak, so desperate.... sweat.gif sweat.gif

Until today still have SEH 2 selling 550k ++ only... less than 2km away from Cradleton, sharing the EM new interchange as the main entry/exit point.. brows.gif
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QUOTE(samkps @ Nov 17 2016, 10:37 PM)
Alamak, so desperate....  sweat.gif  sweat.gif

Until today still have SEH 2 selling 550k ++ only...  less than 2km away from Cradleton, sharing the EM new interchange as the main entry/exit point..  brows.gif
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Bro...the unit is smaller unit lah ie built up area in SEH 2...when he bought EW all d units of Ecohill 1 all sold off arealdy lah...yow choong chee mow hut yee lah..
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On another note, I think they shouldn't relocate the Chinese school(s) from Semenyih town to Eco Majestic. Leave the school as it is. I think Ecoworld should come up with a new SRJK© or chinese school in EM.

Any news about the Eco Majestic megamall/mall yet?
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This way, give more choices for Chinese school in Semenyih.
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QUOTE(samkps @ Nov 17 2016, 10:27 PM)
hooray... Perfect 10 for EM....  rclxm9.gif  rclxm9.gif
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Sorry bro this 1 also cannot - need a 10+ 1 la maybe haha
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QUOTE(Wobblyblob @ Nov 17 2016, 10:50 PM)
This way, give more choices for Chinese school in Semenyih.
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Reallocation should be more feasible than apply a new one under current situation. We all know how sensitive and challenging it could be even on allocation.
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QUOTE(samkps @ Nov 17 2016, 10:37 PM)
Alamak, so desperate....  sweat.gif  sweat.gif

Until today still have SEH 2 selling 550k ++ only...  less than 2km away from Cradleton, sharing the EM new interchange as the main entry/exit point..  brows.gif
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QUOTE(Diver Lim @ Nov 17 2016, 10:52 PM)
Reallocation should be more feasible than apply a new one under current situation. We all know how sensitive and challenging it could be even on allocation.
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QUOTE(hpteoh88 @ Nov 17 2016, 10:11 PM)
i met an old man sat beside me on launching day...he told me he wants to buy d RM580k for his son about 21 yrs old and still schooling...he sat beside me and kept looking and figuring out which unit to buy..his son was somewhere eating n when the allocation started his son was bz looking inside the showroom to see which unit was available...his son came back told him only limited units for RM580k and by half hr his son came back told him all of this units was sold off and he was devastated n sad.... i thought he gave up and left but i saw him later hanging out near the allocation room wth his son peeking to see other units...he ended up purchasing a RM630k of the 20x70 size.... this is the sacrifice of the parents to the children... morale of the story is ...yes its hard earned money used to buy a hse which relatively not cheap...n purchasers expect some form of quality or return in their investments....also u could see his tears coming down when told only limited units of 580k and he was grumbling why so many units sold off to staff and associates and suppliers....giving false hopes to old ppl its only 580k....so in life dont grumble lah...look around u ppl suffering to meet ends meet...he even asks around pls i can only give u RM500 of the referal fees only...sad isnt it..
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I dont thk this is touch...rather should ask his son to use his own earn money and buy the house..why spoon feed the son?

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QUOTE(Ownstay @ Nov 17 2016, 10:35 PM)
They dare to call themselve world class ler.. Haih.
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QUOTE(Wobblyblob @ Nov 17 2016, 10:49 PM)
On another note, I think they shouldn't relocate the Chinese school(s) from Semenyih town to Eco Majestic. Leave the school as it is. I think Ecoworld should come up with a new SRJK© or chinese school in EM.

Any news about the Eco Majestic megamall/mall yet?
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New SRJK?. shocking.gif shocking.gif
Ah jib gor just commit will work together with MCA to build more SRJK. devil.gif devil.gif
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QUOTE(Wobblyblob @ Nov 17 2016, 10:49 PM)
On another note, I think they shouldn't relocate the Chinese school(s) from Semenyih town to Eco Majestic. Leave the school as it is. I think Ecoworld should come up with a new SRJK© or chinese school in EM.

Any news about the Eco Majestic megamall/mall yet?
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One day didn't check forum, suddenly EM progress so fast, u guys really need to give many 👍👍.

Just to share some light on Chinese school, only reallocation is allowable, so far there won't be any new Chinese school will pop up. All the Chinese school that happen to be build in new town ship or mature area is all reallocation from outstation to Kv. And the progress took years too. Some few example can look into cyberjaya side of the Chinese school.

And EM mall, u guys enjoy setia walk dulu ba. EM mall not sure how long will it take to become realistic.



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QUOTE(JXplod @ Nov 17 2016, 11:30 PM)
One day didn't check forum, suddenly EM progress so fast, u guys really need to give many 👍👍.

Just to share some light on Chinese school, only reallocation is allowable, so far there won't be any new Chinese school will pop up. All the Chinese school that happen to be build in new town ship or mature area is all reallocation from outstation to Kv. And the progress took years too. Some few example can look into cyberjaya side of the Chinese school.

And EM mall, u guys enjoy setia walk dulu ba. EM mall not sure how long will it take to become realistic.
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Plus 1. If EM managed to relocate the SRJK oredy consider super 👍👍👍 and tis will help to push up a lot of the market value
Want new SRJK? Stop dreaming
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QUOTE(Wobblyblob @ Nov 17 2016, 10:49 PM)
On another note, I think they shouldn't relocate the Chinese school(s) from Semenyih town to Eco Majestic. Leave the school as it is. I think Ecoworld should come up with a new SRJK© or chinese school in EM.

Any news about the Eco Majestic megamall/mall yet?
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Wow megamall? Two mil NLA here in semenyih? Ecoworld got the balls of steel.
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I.cant agree with you. I am buying cradleton for ownstay. I choose semenyih because of the backlane and lifestyle they promote. I want the lifestyle now. Not price for tomorrow..
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Not rm40k.
Rm770k not discount yet.
And i believe not normal unit, anyone know what's the special rm770k unit leftover still for Merrydale currently?

How many % discount they're offering now?
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Merrydale buyer here. Bought in Aug, 20x70 773k with 5% discount. My friend intro me and he'll give me back the 3% introduction fee.
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Merrydale buyer here. Bought in Aug, 20x70 773k with 5% discount. My friend intro me and he'll give me back the 3% introduction fee.
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Welcome to EM smile.gif
Yours is facing the central linear garden?

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QUOTE(mamaky @ Nov 16 2016, 10:55 PM)
Funny how some ppl (claimed to be owner) here still defending EM like no tomorrow despite knowing the end product will never be close to what was promised. Only one possibility- EW cyber troopers are real.
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agreed. they prefer ew spend millions for exp marketing events tht are eating up their budget for ur landscape, fittings etc.
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QUOTE(hpteoh88 @ Nov 17 2016, 10:45 PM)
Bro...the unit is smaller unit lah ie built up area in SEH 2...when he bought EW all d units of Ecohill 1 all sold off arealdy lah...yow choong chee mow hut yee lah..
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Too bad then..

If the uncle spend some time to study Ecohill masterplan, during that time phase 2 DSL SEH 1 still not yet launch. The second phase 20 x 70 DSL is launched at RM 598k with 1936 sqf buildup, just slightly lower than Cradleton 2019 sqf buildup.

Banyas SEH 2 (20x70, 1909 sqf BU) also starting from 608k with 10:90 scheme.

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QUOTE(Wobblyblob @ Nov 17 2016, 10:49 PM)
On another note, I think they shouldn't relocate the Chinese school(s) from Semenyih town to Eco Majestic. Leave the school as it is. I think Ecoworld should come up with a new SRJK© or chinese school in EM.

Any news about the Eco Majestic megamall/mall yet?
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If not mistaken, the relocation is involving the chinese school from Beranang, not Semenyih, no?

Ton Fah SRJK, being discussed in the thread quite some time ago..

Till date, still no news... Leader who writing petition to EM about the landscape, please kindly help to push push push EM on this new SRJK school as well. notworthy.gif notworthy.gif
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Too bad then..

If the uncle spend some time to study Ecohill masterplan, during that time phase 2 DSL SEH 1 still not yet launch. The second phase 20 x 70 DSL is launched at RM 598k with 1936 sqf buildup, just slightly lower than Cradleton 2019 sqf buildup.

Banyas SEH 2 (20x70, 1909 sqf BU) also starting from 608k with 10:90 scheme.
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You have to understand, the time when EM launch.
Setia are 5 streets behind EM.

EM World Class landscaping make SEH look like Malaysia Class.
Actual deliver, EM are Eco World Class.

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In fact SEH landscaping is miles ahead of EM but too bad their house quality is like toilet paper. But it's way too early now to comment on EM built quality. TBH toothpick trees are not a concern at all as they will eventually grow. It's just that Tropicana is moving matured trees as an add on to its public park. They are still using toothpick trees for their private park and also residential. The real concern should be the built quality and ROI. Not trees and grass.
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QUOTE(Diver Lim @ Nov 18 2016, 08:38 AM)
You have to understand, the time when EM launch.
Setia are 5 streets behind EM.

EM World Class landscaping make SEH look like Malaysia Class.
Actual deliver, EM are Eco World Class.
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To add on- for uncle, 600k for a world class house then is cheap compared to Malaysian class. Who wouldnt want?
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QUOTE(samkps @ Nov 18 2016, 08:20 AM)
If not mistaken, the relocation is involving the chinese school from Beranang, not Semenyih, no?

Ton Fah SRJK, being discussed in the thread quite some time ago..

Till date, still no news... Leader who writing petition to EM about the landscape, please kindly help to push push push EM on this new SRJK school as well.  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif
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As I expected, everyone would prefer to protect their privacy so I never try to collect petition.
I tried yesterday, only one or two genuine buyers are willing to joint. Weak and no point.

Nvm, Let Cradleton whatever it's as you advised too.

By the way, Those committed fail to deliver and can not request. Then you think those never committed like so call highway link and school you have right to ask and request?
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QUOTE(mthc @ Nov 18 2016, 08:45 AM)
In fact SEH landscaping is miles ahead of EM but too bad their house quality is like toilet paper. But it's way too early now to comment on EM built quality. TBH toothpick trees are not a concern at all as they will eventually grow. It's just that Tropicana is moving matured trees as an add on to its public park. They are still using toothpick trees for their private park and also residential. The real concern should be the built quality and ROI. Not trees and grass.
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This one i have to partially agree. There are some semi mature along EM from the east gate looking good. Those planted 2 years ago i thk.
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QUOTE(Diver Lim @ Nov 18 2016, 08:51 AM)
As I expected, everyone would prefer to protect their privacy so I never try to collect petition.
I tried yesterday, only one or two genuine buyers are willing to joint.  Weak and no point.

Nvm, Let Cradleton whatever it's as you advised too.

By the way, Those committed fail to deliver and can not request. Then you think those never committed like so call highway link and school you have right to ask and request?
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In fact SEH landscaping is miles ahead of EM but too bad their house quality is like toilet paper. But it's way too early now to comment on EM built quality. TBH toothpick trees are not a concern at all as they will eventually grow. It's just that Tropicana is moving matured trees as an add on to its public park. They are still using toothpick trees for their private park and also residential. The real concern should be the built quality and ROI. Not trees and grass.
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Why so hard to understand?
We are talking foundation. Not big trees and small trees.

No trees how to grow? Naked lake can grow plants and trees?
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Speaking of lane, let's take a trip down memory lane.
The marketing team did a good job in crafting the hype-some said they queued up one night.
Great hype in quiet town.

What touched me most was when I came across one old Chinese lady,
It was high noon, and She was standing outside the shop lot at a quiet corner when she came across tan sri.

she shakily shook both her hands with tan sri's and with a trembling voice, she said, thank you for letting me buy a unit.
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Why thank you eh?
what so touching? the unit aint free.....
still need to pay with saving from last 10 years from the down payment.
still need to continue with installment for the next 20 years.


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QUOTE(Diver Lim @ Nov 18 2016, 08:51 AM)
As I expected, everyone would prefer to protect their privacy so I never try to collect petition.
I tried yesterday, only one or two genuine buyers are willing to joint.  Weak and no point.

Nvm, Let Cradleton whatever it's as you advised too.

By the way, Those committed fail to deliver and can not request. Then you think those never committed like so call highway link and school you have right to ask and request?
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I'd thought of gathering the buyers (perhaps my Tenderfields precint) and initiate a meet-up session with EM Mgmt but I'm still thinking of whether there is such a need at the moment, and the timing as well. Anyway, if this is to be done, I think what needs to be done is to ensure only genuine buyers are in.
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QUOTE(Diver Lim @ Nov 18 2016, 08:38 AM)
You have to understand, the time when EM launch.
Setia are 5 streets behind EM.

EM World Class landscaping make SEH look like Malaysia Class.
Actual deliver, EM are Eco World Class.
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Strongly disagree..

In what sense Setia is 5 streets behind EM?

During EM launching, regardless swan lake, duck lake or goose lake, shadow also can't be seen at that moment.

During that time, only have irresponsible blogger or forummer try to portrait SP Setia shall sink while EW shall be the supreme raising star due to the staff exodus issue.

This is called Setia 5 streets behind EM?

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QUOTE(Jasoncat @ Nov 18 2016, 09:03 AM)
I'd thought of gathering the buyers (perhaps my Tenderfields precint) and initiate a meet-up session with EM Mgmt but I'm still thinking of whether there is such a need at the moment, and the timing as well.  Anyway, if this is to be done, I think what needs to be done is to ensure only genuine buyers are in.
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In forum, people only label you as hater or trooper.

Genuine buyer? I hope not only keyboard warrior.. biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(samkps @ Nov 18 2016, 09:07 AM)
Strongly disagree..

In what sense Setia is 5 streets behind EM?

During EM launching, regardless swan lake, duck lake or goose lake, shadow also can't be seen at that moment.

During that time, only have irresponsible blogger or forummer try to portrait SP Setia shall sink while EW shall be the supreme raising star due to the staff exodus issue.

This is called Setia 5 streets behind EM?
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And EW commitment on our landscape that you didn't get similar promise on commitment from SEH.

Those backlane and etc.

But doesn't matter to you. You already agreed ut is fair for them to not deliver and those commitment take no legal responsibility. I got it.

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QUOTE(Diver Lim @ Nov 18 2016, 09:10 AM)
And EW commitment on our landscape that you didn't get similar promise on commitment from SEH.

Those backlane and etc.
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SEH put commitment on landscape in the masterplan and they fulfill the commitment even after house is VP. Landscape work and maintenance is still going on after houses handover.

Backlane EW still working on it. Jason taikor has shown the illustrative picture of the backlane sometime ago. If EW can't fulfill as shown in the illustrative picture, then only form a case, no? hmm.gif hmm.gif hmm.gif hmm.gif

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QUOTE(mthc @ Nov 18 2016, 08:45 AM)
In fact SEH landscaping is miles ahead of EM but too bad their house quality is like toilet paper. But it's way too early now to comment on EM built quality. TBH toothpick trees are not a concern at all as they will eventually grow. It's just that Tropicana is moving matured trees as an add on to its public park. They are still using toothpick trees for their private park and also residential. The real concern should be the built quality and ROI. Not trees and grass.
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I think the concern from most is not the toothpick. Think most is smart enough to understand that it takes time to grow. It's the number of toothpicks and the quality of it. If it's not there, is not there unless people make enough noise so they plant more toothpicks that's close to the artist impression.

This is not hard, they are not asking EW to do extra(which most here are expecting due to the premium pricing in Semenyih area) but do what is promised (again verbally or not but ethically). I was told EW would do the best to match the artist impression and the toothpicks are not hard nor expensive. And I really don't see that many matured trees that they said they would relocate, the effort wasn't there.
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QUOTE(samkps @ Nov 18 2016, 09:10 AM)
In forum, people only label you as hater or trooper.

Genuine buyer? I hope not only keyboard warrior..  biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif
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Lol... cyber world macam macam orang pun ada... never mind, I don't owe them any single cent tongue.gif
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QUOTE(mthc @ Nov 17 2016, 12:49 AM)
Branding brother.

Tan&Tan - village park nasi lemak

Ecoworld - succulent tender deep fried chicken with aromatic Asian spice batter served with coconut fragrant jasmine rice complemented by chef TSL secret sweet and spicy Sam all chili topped with roasted Malaysian peanuts and broiled anchovies
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+1. Marketing guru need to learn from EW on how to promote la. never mind the final product isnt similar to the showunit/pic/plan/wht was promised cry.gif
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i met an old man sat beside me on launching day...he told me he wants to buy d RM580k for his son about 21 yrs old and still schooling...he sat beside me and kept looking and figuring out which unit to buy..his son was somewhere eating n when the allocation started his son was bz looking inside the showroom to see which unit was available...his son came back told him only limited units for RM580k and by half hr his son came back told him all of this units was sold off and he was devastated n sad.... i thought he gave up and left but i saw him later hanging out near the allocation room wth his son peeking to see other units...he ended up purchasing a RM630k of the 20x70 size.... this is the sacrifice of the parents to the children... morale of the story is ...yes its hard earned money used to buy a hse which relatively not cheap...n purchasers expect some form of quality or return in their investments....also u could see his tears coming down when told only limited units of 580k and he was grumbling why so many units sold off to staff and associates and suppliers....giving false hopes to old ppl its only 580k....so in life dont grumble lah...look around u ppl suffering to meet ends meet...he even asks around pls i can only give u RM500 of the referal fees only...sad isnt it..
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Seen EM thread us like as slave !!!!!
Very disappointed , we used up our money buy from them, then end up show us their true color !!!!!

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QUOTE(Jasoncat @ Nov 18 2016, 09:17 AM)
Lol... cyber world macam macam orang pun ada... never mind, I don't owe them any single cent  tongue.gif
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day is young let's start afresh smile.gif
So by now I guess all bets are off, we are still talking and babbling from individual basis...so Only can look forward to VP time yeah
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QUOTE(vajos @ Nov 18 2016, 09:57 AM)
this is hilarious
eco world is top 10 developer in malaysia
product sure comes with premium
premium marketing, customer service experience already worth the money
there are more supporters than haters, that alone already cannot fight
final delivery bad, perhaps just do another customer service/marketing event to make pple feel better??
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Another free makan?
more toothpick will be gone, better don't.
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QUOTE(quicksilver9832 @ Nov 18 2016, 10:08 AM)
day is young let's start afresh smile.gif
So by now I guess all bets are off, we are still talking and babbling from individual basis...so Only can look forward to VP time yeah
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Haha... it's still fine. Whatever it's I will still try to keep close touch with EM/EW with feedback or suggestions constantly. Having said that, if I think there is a need to act then will not hesitate about it.

This thread has turned sensationalized and emotionalized already... and attract unnecessary troll from pathetic joker(s) - though it has no bearing on my life but its presence is like seeing lalat flying around... lol.
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Haha... it's still fine. Whatever it's I will still try to keep close touch with EM/EW with feedback or suggestions constantly.  Having said that, if I think there is a need to act then will not hesitate about it.

This thread has turned sensationalized and emotionalized already... and attract unnecessary troll from pathetic joker(s) - though it has no bearing on my life but its presence is like seeing lalat flying around... lol.
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That's very nice of u bro ! Cool yup - well when there is a
Hot successful dev gaining foothold , the momentum of success vs hate is in parallel

The bigger the tree is the more wind it latches on smile.gif
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QUOTE(poorpoorunderdog @ Nov 18 2016, 10:01 AM)
Seen EM thread us like as slave !!!!!
Very disappointed , we used up our money buy from them, then end up show us their true color !!!!!
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haha... support and trust given to him and become pioneer buyers for new project ...end up become SLAVE... doh.gif

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i bought tenderfield 2f
cow grass or carpet grass ?
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should be cow grass
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QUOTE(tenderfield @ Nov 18 2016, 10:43 AM)
i bought tenderfield 2f
cow grass or carpet grass ?
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I know temporary sales office are carpet grass.
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QUOTE(poorpoorunderdog @ Nov 18 2016, 10:01 AM)
Seen EM thread us like as slave !!!!!
Very disappointed , we used up our money buy from them, then end up show us their true color !!!!!
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Can you and Diverlim guide us lodge official complaint to CIDB? The government association you shared before. Im keen to it but need guidance.

Wait VP, if it is really nothing improved and things are missing... I believe many buyers like me will not accept. Can I not sign on the VP form?
It would be handful of owner list to collect and bring it back on social.media.
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QUOTE(samkps @ Nov 18 2016, 09:17 AM)
SEH put commitment on landscape in the masterplan and they fulfill the commitment even after house is VP. Landscape work and maintenance is still going on after houses handover.

Backlane EW still working on it. Jason taikor has shown the illustrative picture of the backlane sometime ago. If EW can't fulfill as shown in the illustrative picture, then only form a case, no?    hmm.gif  hmm.gif  hmm.gif  hmm.gif
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Agreed. I think SEH put give their landscaping committmemt through their masterplan since day one. EW should practice the same culture as Setia since they are come from Setia.
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QUOTE(mthc @ Nov 17 2016, 11:53 PM)
Wow megamall? Two mil NLA here in semenyih? Ecoworld got the balls of steel.
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people who believe got brains of steel
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QUOTE(Ownstay @ Nov 18 2016, 11:16 AM)
Can you and Diverlim guide us lodge official complaint to CIDB? The government association you shared before. Im keen to it but need guidance.

Wait VP, if it is really nothing improved and things are missing... I believe many buyers like me will not accept. Can I not sign on the VP form?
It would be handful of owner list to collect and bring it back on social.media.
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+1

good question !! do we hv the right to reject the VP if we are disagreed to the end product hand-over ???
metoo , how ??

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QUOTE(HarpArtist @ Nov 18 2016, 11:28 AM)
people who believe got brains of steel
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I have said many times.

Landscape are the most realistic elements EW can deliver, and the most reasonable request we could make.

But some balls of steel think we should pass and ask for Mandi Spa and makan buffet. I speechless.
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QUOTE(jadeKL @ Nov 18 2016, 11:33 AM)
+1

good question !! do we hv the right to reject the VP if we are disagreed to the end product hand-over ???
metoo , how ??
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If they deliver house with rootop, road and bricks and safe to stay.

Even no electricity and water, you still need to sign VP.

Those.progress billing, they have fulfilled all.

It's more on business culture and ethnic, unfortunately nothing much we can do.

Now we are the bugger that cry to see how much they willing to give.

Like that dog said, cry father cry mother after buy.

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https://www.facebook.com/EcoWorldDevelopment

EcoWorld facebook, didn't see any comment from any buyers? everything ok only.
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If they deliver house with root, road and bricks and safe to stay.

Even no electricity and water, you still need to sign VP.

It's more on business culture and ethnic, unfortunately nothing much we can do.
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https://www.facebook.com/EcoWorldDevelopment

EcoWorld facebook, didn't see any comment from any buyers? everything ok only.
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