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 EcoMajestic @ Semenyih (VERSION 13A!), Gentlebre & Cradleton VP-ing soon...

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post Nov 17 2016, 11:40 AM

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Super hot discussion, seems EW really does have too much on his hands (15 projects running concurrently?) selling on reputation alone with zero performance history....
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post Nov 17 2016, 12:19 PM

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QUOTE(hpteoh88 @ Nov 17 2016, 10:55 AM)
No lah...she is just observant and trying to tell u as a innocent 3rd party the pics u posted on the booklet does not resemble what she sees in the site office of the actual cradleton units as really different on the booklet vs the actual what is seen on site.....haha.. brows.gif
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Wah like that also can cucuk... u hor....

ANyway I doubt there is anything house buyers can do except wait for VP.... the legal side EW surely protected... they will tell u its for "ILLUSTRATION" purpose only... or "artist impression".

If the residents are really unhappy (cause to me some seems very happy and satisfied) they can always band together and launch a well crafted blitz campaign on social media... this will hurt EW HARD cause they have too many current products on hand that they cannot afford a hit to their reputation/credibility...
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post Nov 17 2016, 02:38 PM

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QUOTE(cutealex @ Nov 17 2016, 01:37 PM)
Very sad that when come to know EM is unable to deliver with what has shown in their broucher...

they prefer spent money and put in marketing than delivering. OF course marketing is important but quality of delivery also important as well.

most of purchasers buying EM due to its nice landscaping (which is the selling point) through it is located at Semenyih. We paid the premium but getting normal landscaping....
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Actually in the case of EW, the way their business model is ran for the past 3 years, marketing is more important than delivery.

Cause they are actively launching new project without actually completing project and delivering them yet. So, they choose not to wait but rush ahead with 15ish projects in hand, hence their marketing and "perceived" quality is more important to them.

You ask anyone now they will tell you EcoWorld is premium developer, sellign quality stuff... but... are there any track record to prove this point? Or is the marketing arm of EW so good that everyone believes this to be true....
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post Nov 17 2016, 02:39 PM

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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Nov 17 2016, 02:38 PM)
haha... i do enjoy xia....  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif but then public forum maki maki like this a bit scary xia... like the war at cyber thread... lol...
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Ya... it seems to be getting pretty heated here... I actually prefer less personal attacks la... having a more matured discourse is to everyone's benefit...
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post Nov 17 2016, 02:43 PM

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QUOTE(shawnk @ Nov 17 2016, 02:01 PM)
If they promise then they have to do it (legal binding or not) or if it's artist impression related or not. Talking about artist impression, I remember I once heard a consultant friend on property related field that it's also legally binding in some form that it should not be too much different from end product. How much that I'm not sure and perhaps someone here with legal background or have a good knowledge can advise us.

However,  ethically they cannot mislead the customers. End of. And I'm expecting EW with such reputation to uphold that promise. At least compensate in some forms or explanation to the purchaser if the end product can't be done as per promised.
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I'm not a lawyer (despite having a second LLB degree), I'm pretty sure you will not have much avenue to press your claims against a developer on landscaping that does not meet your personal standard. I'll bet there is nothing in the S&P that outlines how the landscaping is to be done.

Hence the only recourse for the buyers is to take it to social media and hit them where they hurt.. at their reputation. If they build up their premium tag reputation based on promises alone, and being shown they dont live up to their promises would be very damaging.
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QUOTE(samkps @ Nov 17 2016, 02:41 PM)
Cow Grass vs Carpet Grass..

Personally both also acceptable as long as got people maintain it properly.

Of course we hope to have carpet grass, since EM is not for decent and proper only, we want IMPRESSIVE...  thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif
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Cow grass is much easier to maintain and much much more durable (and is cheapest by far)

Carpet grass, though it might seem nice, would end up having patches of brown dried stuff (especially if you are looking at the nicer japanese carpet grass), if you go the philippines carpet grass... they can tahan our weather but i feel they tend to grow abit fast, so you need regular trimming.... if u cut them short short again they will dry out and leave brown patches.
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QUOTE(hpteoh88 @ Nov 17 2016, 02:44 PM)
time will tell...but u need to credit EW for expanding so fast in Msia and in international mkt.....

Pty development strategy is simple...once u acquired land..u need to finance and pay for the empty land...to overcome cost of finance you need to launch the fastest way to sell off all the hses so to lighten off the cost of financing and now its all about carpet bombing like Country garden in JB .....marketing strategy and advertisements work for a short while only..after that the wow and herd factor will loose steam....
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I think they are aware that the hype factor will only last so long if without any real quality delivery to back them up. Thats why they are launching so many projects concurrently while still riding high on their premium tag hype. I lost count how many projects they have right now.... seriously its not easy to monitor/manage 10+ projects that is under construction at the same time.... talent problem etc.


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QUOTE(hpteoh88 @ Nov 17 2016, 02:50 PM)
if there is no contractual obligation...u can still sue if u had rely on the hearsay and u made a monetary loss to urself based on the hearsay....
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THis line of argument generally goes down to "he say she say", with no way to back up either party's claims. As for proving monetary loss, you have to prove you rely on what the SA allegedly say etc etc and that there is actual monetary loss. In my uninformed opinion, legal recourse is not feasible, ofcourse you can try.
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QUOTE(quicksilver9832 @ Nov 17 2016, 02:53 PM)
its all coming soon, VP time, surely there will be media coverage, GOOD n BAD, it should be unveil to all n public by then

now is all abt .......goreng prelude to VP....remember how the 3 presidential debates until the climax of actual election ? rclxms.gif
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Um... why would there be media coverage? Unless its awesome then EW will invite the media and start sending spiels to them. Otherwise its up to the the home owners to start complaining to the media...
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QUOTE(quicksilver9832 @ Nov 17 2016, 03:03 PM)
EM thread so hot liao, n EM being acclaimed to first landed GG in Greater KV , if they dun publicise, something is really wayyyy too wrong / fishy

N based on my observations, in the past some important events ie. Toll opening has media coverage tongue.gif
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Media these days very lazy de...

They will not go (and have no reason to) unless invited by EW.... OR if they think there is a big controversial scoop
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QUOTE(Jforte @ Nov 18 2016, 12:02 PM)
Wow, being a passive forumer not realizing the versions has blown to V13a rclxms.gif

Just my few thoughts.


2) My current house has some slope issues. After some years and settlements, many of the houses including mine found water pipes undergroud leaked. Some of us have to repipe it and some even resorted to pulling and reroute the entire piping directly from main to water tanks which is quite an ugly sight. Anyway, I am not an expert and not sure if the slope is the cause.

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This is a very valid concern.

Usually if buyer is keen to stay long term (10/15/20 years), then before you move in I suggest relocating the underground piping. Either dig it all up and redo with super expensive stainless steel piping... or I prefer to relocate it externally, put it along the walls etc... cover it with fake wall/wooden panel etc (ask your ID la).

Cause my last 2 house I have water issue... next house I'm gonna spend $$ just to make sure it doesnt happen again...
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QUOTE(jadeKL @ Nov 18 2016, 11:33 AM)
+1

good question !! do we hv the right to reject the VP if we are disagreed to the end product hand-over ???
metoo , how ??
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To summarise, no. The product they are contractually bound looks like the house itself, any other items are ancillary so there is no grounds to reject the house just cause the grass across the road is not to our liking.
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QUOTE(wan83 @ Dec 6 2016, 02:44 PM)
What does it mean by plaster ceiling?
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Ceiling leaking. Need put additional plaster to patch it up. tongue.gif

This type la... no plaster ceiling how to hide your cables/lights etc

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post Dec 7 2016, 11:36 AM

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QUOTE(Diver Lim @ Dec 6 2016, 09:22 PM)
Bro, you sacrify so much of your ceiling height?
Ceiling lower by 1 feet because of the plaster ceilings. Maybe 2 feet.
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Not mine, I just grab a pic to better explain to the bro who was asking what's plaster ceiling
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post Dec 7 2016, 11:37 AM

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QUOTE(Diver Lim @ Dec 6 2016, 09:58 PM)
Good to know.
Less is more. When come to plaster ceiling.

If want fancy, source for designer lighting.
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Lucky me i have a good friend who is manufacturer/distributor of lighting... any design also can make hehe

Edit : Try not to get too unique/special lights for your house... if anything happens and you have a set, it would be a bithc to replace. Also ID tend to source "rare" stuff in their design so there is only 1 supplier... hence they can markup and you are unable to check yourself to compare prices.

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QUOTE(Diver Lim @ Dec 7 2016, 10:30 AM)
And.during the raining season...

I believe not technically problem.
Should be wrongly fall on political hand.

Any idea how big water tank we can install?
Can install a few in parallel?
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Its always a good idea to put in an extra tank, next to existing tank if possible, hence dont need do extra piping... it would also have the side benefit of extra water pressure
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QUOTE(Diver Lim @ Dec 7 2016, 12:11 PM)
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Install water pump very sien. Here strong pressure there another faucet low pressure... Only shower happy, brush teeth not happy...
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2 big tanks sure better water pressure especially both is routed to the same pipe (which we should do). Dont pipe the new tank to the old tank only, that way you cannot circulate the new tank's water which is bad.
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QUOTE(Palmwalker001 @ Jan 10 2017, 05:36 PM)
Bomba's requirement is 20 feet

Jabatan Bomba dan Penyelamat Malaysia (JBPM) mengekalkan jarak 6.1 meter (20 kaki) yang mana difikirkan adalah wajar bagi langkau api.
JPBM juga menetapkan ruang langkau api dalam bentuk lorong tepi disediakan bagi setiap 97.56 meter (320 kaki) atau 16 unit rumah teres bagi tujuan pengawalan kebakaran.
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Correct, its 20 feet, so usually its 10' each side.
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QUOTE(dreamer2020 @ Jan 11 2017, 02:28 PM)
can request 10% refund?
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Contractually and logically speaking, u need to be a dreamer to even consider that....
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QUOTE(Palmwalker001 @ Jan 10 2017, 11:35 AM)
Wonder why only 15 feet back lane not 20 feet as suggested in Back Lane Guidelines by government hmm.gif
or guidelines is not compulsory?

Page 11
http://www.mpn.gov.my/sites/default/files/...ng_belakang.pdf

7.1 Lorong Belakang Tanpa Anjakan
(i) Kelebaran minimum bagi penyediaan lorong belakang tanpa anjakan ialah 6.1 meter (20 kaki) (Rajah 1).

(ii) Kelebaran ini adalah mencukupi bagi memastikan ruang yang cukup untuk langkau api, pengudaraan, pencahayaan serta laluan infrastruktur (Foto 13).

Rajah 1: Ilustrasi keperluan lebar lorong belakang 6.1 meter (20 kaki) di perumahan teres tanpa anjakan bangunan.
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I thought the back lane doesnt need to be 20" per se.

The distance between 2 house (wall to wall) must be 20", hence if the back lane is 15, and there is 2.5/5" in each compound, then its good enough?

Cause some houses are back to back sharing the same fence, hence they cannot renovate/extend the building closer then 10" form the fence... hence 2x10"

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