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 EcoMajestic @ Semenyih (VERSION 13A!), Gentlebre & Cradleton VP-ing soon...

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post Nov 17 2016, 02:01 PM

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QUOTE(MeToo @ Nov 17 2016, 12:19 PM)
Wah like that also can cucuk... u hor....

ANyway I doubt there is anything house buyers can do except wait for VP.... the legal side EW surely protected... they will tell u its for "ILLUSTRATION" purpose only... or "artist impression".

If the residents are really unhappy (cause to me some seems very happy and satisfied) they can always band together and launch a well crafted blitz campaign on social media... this will hurt EW HARD cause they have too many current products on hand that they cannot afford a hit to their reputation/credibility...
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If they promise then they have to do it (legal binding or not) or if it's artist impression related or not. Talking about artist impression, I remember I once heard a consultant friend on property related field that it's also legally binding in some form that it should not be too much different from end product. How much that I'm not sure and perhaps someone here with legal background or have a good knowledge can advise us.

However, ethically they cannot mislead the customers. End of. And I'm expecting EW with such reputation to uphold that promise. At least compensate in some forms or explanation to the purchaser if the end product can't be done as per promised.
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post Nov 17 2016, 06:45 PM

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QUOTE(MeToo @ Nov 17 2016, 02:43 PM)
I'm not a lawyer (despite having a second LLB degree), I'm pretty sure you will not have much avenue to press your claims against a developer on landscaping that does not meet your personal standard. I'll bet there is nothing in the S&P that outlines how the landscaping is to be done.

Hence the only recourse for the buyers is to take it to social media and hit them where they hurt.. at their reputation. If they build up their premium tag reputation based on promises alone, and being shown they dont live up to their promises would be very damaging.
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Thanks. Your advice and points are much appreciated.
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post Nov 17 2016, 07:55 PM

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QUOTE(poker @ Nov 17 2016, 07:38 PM)
I am with you guys too. We need EM to lay a good foundation for the landscape to flourish. I am also one of the purchaser so I am all for it if we can push EM to deliver what they promise.

I am sure they are monitoring social medias and forums.
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Please count me in. If there's a need for meet up or petition, I'll participate.
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post Nov 18 2016, 09:17 AM

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QUOTE(mthc @ Nov 18 2016, 08:45 AM)
In fact SEH landscaping is miles ahead of EM but too bad their house quality is like toilet paper. But it's way too early now to comment on EM built quality. TBH toothpick trees are not a concern at all as they will eventually grow. It's just that Tropicana is moving matured trees as an add on to its public park. They are still using toothpick trees for their private park and also residential. The real concern should be the built quality and ROI. Not trees and grass.
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I think the concern from most is not the toothpick. Think most is smart enough to understand that it takes time to grow. It's the number of toothpicks and the quality of it. If it's not there, is not there unless people make enough noise so they plant more toothpicks that's close to the artist impression.

This is not hard, they are not asking EW to do extra(which most here are expecting due to the premium pricing in Semenyih area) but do what is promised (again verbally or not but ethically). I was told EW would do the best to match the artist impression and the toothpicks are not hard nor expensive. And I really don't see that many matured trees that they said they would relocate, the effort wasn't there.
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post Nov 18 2016, 02:28 PM

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QUOTE(samkps @ Nov 18 2016, 02:24 PM)
Actually hor, is it confirmed Tenderfield will have cow grass only? So far all pictures shared only on cradleton.
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If no one raise a concern, sure why not after all its business.
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post Nov 23 2016, 02:34 PM

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QUOTE(robinhood @ Nov 23 2016, 01:24 PM)
Wow, the Cradleton's artist impression of the landscape is even better than the Merrydale project which I just bought. Tiu....loh with all the negative comments here. Perhaps, I think EW can deliver but only baby trees at the start. My brother bought Fairfield at Tropicana Heights is like that too. Most are baby trees.
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I think the problem here is not the quality of trees or the size of it. It's the quantity of the baby trees are so few compared to what's conveyed verbally or through the artist impression. That to me can be easily fixed that doesn't require too much costing. I'm not talking about building a bridge here.
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post Nov 23 2016, 02:34 PM

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post Dec 3 2016, 11:55 AM

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QUOTE(Director Xavi V @ Dec 3 2016, 11:54 AM)
Cradleton VP expected to be end of January, VP batch by batch.
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By type (eg. 1A, 1B and etc)?
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post Dec 6 2016, 06:27 PM

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QUOTE(Diver Lim @ Dec 6 2016, 06:01 PM)
Went to my friend house earlier.
Curi-curi took some photos from car, these quick photos can't tell much, actual environment are much nicer.

I hope this is a good motivation for all our future neighbors to PAY OUR MAINTANCE FEE.

Please raise hand for higher rate options during AGM.

Together we could make our lliving environment lovely in long run.
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Very nice surrounding and a lot of matured toothpicks there.
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post Dec 7 2016, 07:04 PM

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QUOTE(dreamer2020 @ Dec 7 2016, 12:07 AM)
after the cow eat the cow grass
now EW change it to carpet grass thumbup.gif
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Good job EW for listening or just part of the plan all this while. Would be good to inform purchasers of such value added or similar concerns, understand LYN may not be the formal channel for communication but can always address purchasers indirectly.

However, lets hope this is an actual good news!

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post Dec 13 2016, 08:24 PM

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Thanks for the sharing Diver Lim. I wasn't aware of such option. IMO just hundreds is worth is to ensure the house (especially for home stay) is done correctly from start to finish. This is not about EW just in case people misunderstand, just thought this should be considered in general. I would but too late for EM.

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post Dec 20 2016, 08:27 AM

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QUOTE(wan83 @ Dec 20 2016, 07:58 AM)

Just my two cents tho - blaming others for your own problem will just show your own weaknesses, being incapability and lack of maturity.
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Curious, how is it his problem?
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post Jan 3 2017, 08:54 PM

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QUOTE(obee @ Jan 3 2017, 04:26 PM)
Hi guys. Was at Eco Majestic last Friday and really amazed at their landscape. Unfortunately I didn't get to see the actual units of Phase 1 & 2. Seems like the grass is an issue. SA told me units with private lawn will get "cow grass" only. Did not ask if the landscape grasses are also the same.

Since I was only shown the Mellowood Parkhomes and Classic Home types I could not compare with Cradleton and other types. Seems like they provided a dedicated spot for AC units to be placed on the open roof. Sounds a little unfair to use the earlier phases as "test subjects" to improve future launches.

Access is a little confusing for me. Maybe I'm not familiar with the area. The number of tolls (about 4-5) coming from Puchong is a shocker to me. Maybe Waze just decided to troll me with a longer & expensive route.

It's nice that the clubhouse membership is optional. Wouldn't want to pay for something I don't frequently use. SA mentioned about commercial lots being taken up but not sure how many. Unifi ready. Saw some charging stations for electric cars as well.

I have not decided on anything but wife is totally sold on Mellowood. Sigh sweat.gif Comparing to SEH and Tropicana Heights, EM seems to be better in terms of "first impressions". A dangerous thing to say but it's just my perception. I apologize first if offended any SEH or TH owners here blush.gif

Anyone working in Cyberjaya or Putrajaya? May I know how long it'll take from EM? And how many tolls per trip?

Sorry for the long post. Just sharing my experience visiting EM.
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Ya, never buy based on perception alone. Just purchasing anything in general, somemore this is a property. Unless of course you are loded tongue.gif
Not saying EM is bad ya, it's subjective to each individual but I agree there was a wow factor in my first site visit to this current sales gallery.
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post Jan 3 2017, 09:35 PM

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QUOTE(obee @ Jan 3 2017, 08:59 PM)
Exactly. And unfortunately I am not loaded smile.gif Just enough to live a normal life.
I'd prefer a property in Cyberjaya but the landed pricing there is ridiculously high.
Oh well.. Gotta think long and hard. HLB just approved my loan application sweat.gif
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haha... I think it's important both parties are happy la. Plenty of time to look around. What's the rush? Again, you might be rewarded with a better offer seeing how EM treats later customer better than the earlier batch... just my personal opinion.
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post Jan 7 2017, 02:26 PM

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QUOTE(johotin @ Jan 7 2017, 01:53 PM)
Don't talk about high expectation,  meet expectation also very hard. EM SA already give up. They claimed that it is acceptable if we benchmark against typical link house. Do you think they still can deliver to meet their backlane commitment in their sales material or model?
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That's very disappointing and low by asking customer to lower their expectation after so much hype on the quality and premium in EM. Should potential customer now expect that it's just slightly better than average terrace? If so they should just adjust the pricing to match that higher than average expectation. I'm not surprised with this but always disappoint me, I thought EM is different. I still hope there's more toothpicks than what I saw in the final product.

Sadly, most people would just bend down and accept it. For some, such idea of bending is so in grain in them that anyone proposing or suggesting to fight againstt is making a lot of fuss, complain a lot and etc. shakehead.gif
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post Jan 7 2017, 09:43 PM

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QUOTE(BREXIT @ Jan 7 2017, 08:41 PM)
Agreed. Beautiful landscaped backlane was always the key selling point
I believe several buyers did aired their concerns that the backplane is nothing but a boring backlane. unfortunately were either ridiculed, or labelled haters.

On top of that, they are Always things will be fined. Even to this date, one month prior to vp.

For your info, gardening and landscaping takes times, to plant, grow, trim and  replace.
600 plus houses with 30 days to go. We should at least seen half or some plants.
So, what garden?
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You are talking too much sense that it almost hurt, I don't understand why some didn't get the point. I'm not even a Cradleton purchaser but I'm still pissed with EM especially the landscaping too.
Having said that, I still have small hope that EM can make amend with all these over-promised issue else they will not get my business in future and/or even warn my family/friends about it (from a EM purchaser).

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post Jan 7 2017, 09:45 PM

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QUOTE(johotin @ Jan 7 2017, 09:25 PM)
EW's vision is "Creating tomorrow and beyond".  Tomorrow create what? Create an imaginary products that they can't realize? Don't talk about tomorrow and beyond,  when today's problems still haven't resolved yet.

Looking at the latest backlane photo,I can't stop shaking my head.  I doubt EM does not know what they are supposed to create.

Not to say I do not want to evaluate the product objectively. Willing seller,  willing buyer. We agreed on the buying price based on what EM has promised to deliver. Everything has been costed in,  inclusive the backlane garden.
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Exactly, whether is on dotted lines or not. Verbalizing it still considered formal confirmation, just that none can prove it without black and white. Make amends and learn from mistake, at least they should do that.

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post Jan 7 2017, 09:47 PM

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QUOTE(ameliorate @ Jan 7 2017, 09:33 PM)
EM is not that expensive, truth be told. You get what you pay for. The budget has been used for marketing. It is nicer than usual link house but you were expecting DPC houses. The pricing do not match.
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I have been following EM forum for years, who are you referring to expecting it to be a DPC house?
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post Jan 8 2017, 12:23 PM

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QUOTE(Diver Lim @ Jan 8 2017, 11:29 AM)
Although no one would expect EM to be another DPC.
Never forgot the price are for Semenyih.

EW should feel insult when public start to realize there are noway close to be a TOP developer they claimed they are.

Where.are their pride when they launch EM?

They will probably be marked as another joke of the year, unless everyone keep quiet to protect their investment, allow them to continue selling empty promises.
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The most insulting part would be that Tan Sri stressed that they would deliver what they have promised in the training or video advert. If they can't, they would be shooting themselves in the food and they can forget about their credibility and their words mean nothing. That's IF they can't deliver ya.
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post Jan 9 2017, 12:45 PM

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QUOTE(dreamer2020 @ Jan 9 2017, 12:19 PM)
yeah i m quite satisfied with the current progress pic
except better after vp
but cant blame other buyers
surrounding landscape is better than inside precint
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I'm not sure of the tree quality but the number of it is lacking. I'll leave others to comment on the quality and how the matured tree would look like. However, the project is close to 3 years now and we have a month or two left, would it change?

Did the sales gallery take 3 years or more to build to have such grown trees? Why not the same inside precinct? I'll ask that next round I go there but I'm expecting disappointment.

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