The Case Fans Thread, Fan Fan Fans
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 Nov 18 2006, 05:31 AM, updated 14y ago
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OK. I noticed there's been a lot of threads about fans. Let's put it all here for easy referral n discussion by everyone.
Link added. Thanks to vassale for the very informative link. Here's a comprehensive test of 26 types of 120mm fans. http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=137832 This post has been edited by ianho: Mar 28 2007, 04:41 PM |
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Nov 18 2006, 05:43 AM
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Good idea... threads that is biased to personal preferences has been popping up so often lately.
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Nov 18 2006, 06:53 AM
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is there bigger than 12cm fan (25cm?) that i could find?
*no table fan lol This post has been edited by yuka: Nov 18 2006, 07:46 AM |
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Nov 18 2006, 08:12 AM
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actualy there is 14 and 25 cm fans bt nt that ive seen any in malaysia bt performance pcs sell them....
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/ind...ca16f386faf33cf http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/ind...index&cPath=327 |
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Nov 18 2006, 09:03 AM
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QUOTE(yuka @ Nov 18 2006, 06:53 AM) is there bigger than 12cm fan (25cm?) that i could find? Why do you want to look for big big fans?*no table fan lol  Want to turn you're pc to be a vacuum cleaner?  |
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Nov 18 2006, 09:13 AM
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QUOTE(sHawTY @ Nov 18 2006, 09:03 AM) Why do you want to look for big big fans? u can always use a fan filter.Want to turn you're pc to be a vacuum cleaner? |
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Nov 18 2006, 09:30 AM
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normally ppl choose big fans because of low noise and high cfm.
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Nov 18 2006, 09:36 AM
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yes... mod.. u should sticky this topic...
and put the casing fan that recomemed by us.. example 80mm casing fan -------------------- XXXX - RPM - XX CFM XX dBa XX speed 90mm casing fan ------------------- like tat.. i can promise tat... a lot of people will go to look at this thread... just my suggestion hehe haha |
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Nov 18 2006, 09:41 AM
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Nov 18 2006, 09:57 AM
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QUOTE(sHawTY @ Nov 18 2006, 09:03 AM) Why do you want to look for big big fans? 1 ultra big fan is enough,,.. no need many small fans...Want to turn you're pc to be a vacuum cleaner? also, can be a hair-drier, lolz |
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Nov 18 2006, 10:07 AM
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I saw it at Lowyat few days befire... at All IT Hypermall
Spec: Overall Dimension: 140 x 140 x 40 mm Rated Voltage : 12 VDC Bearing Type : Ever Lubricate bearing type (Long life bearing) Life Time: Over 40000 hr Speed : 120010% RPM Noise : <22 dBA No CFM provided.... 14CM fan |
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Nov 18 2006, 10:15 AM
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yeah saw that too....the cfm should be around 40+ with 30- db
not bad bt evercools best..... or if u can get the yate loons are the best, very silent yet got the cfms..... anyway if u wan best noise to cfm ration best bet is the panaflow series, 120mm, i personallaly own one and bvery happy with it, bt after a while the fans have a small clickking nloise that u can mistakenly think its ur hdd... neway this happens only when u undervolt or over volt. overvolting will make the fan very fast bt only slightly noisier bt will die within a few days, killed my 3 panaflows thuis way on my tripple rad... |
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Nov 18 2006, 10:22 AM
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Be careful when handling case fans. Last night I open up my casing just wanted to push a wire aside, I got cut by my Nidec 92mm TA350DC fan... the speed was set to 3000rpm.. gosh.. lucky just kena my knuckle. But I can see some flesh off my skin right now..
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Nov 18 2006, 10:28 AM
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i've saw my friend's fingers flesh almost ripped off from a FFB delta. the mighty 190cfm fan taught him to use fan grills and never work when the fan is operating
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Nov 18 2006, 10:33 AM
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hey guys.... u make me scared, lol
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Nov 18 2006, 10:36 AM
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Lets discuss a topic here...
I dunno if you guys have ever tested this. Try to get your fan to fun faster (higher rpm) and see whether the temperature of ur cpu drops? Cos what I did was, I set to a high n low settings... all I got the difference was a 1C Secondly... I dunno how many people notice this but the speed of your intake (masuk) and exhaust (keluar) makes a big difference. But this is odd, my case worked effectively in reverse. They say that your intake should have a higher air flow (cfm) and higher speed (rpm) than your exhuast, but mine is that my exhaust is faster and better air flow than my intake and my case is cooled about 4C better than the 'recommended' sequence... anyone knows why? Is it because we should always suck the hot air out more than bring new cool air in? |
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Nov 18 2006, 10:40 AM
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recently... my pc temp was 47c.... i added 2 fans (intake) in random place....
good thing is i've manage to drop down to 35c... *the fan i was using is taken from cap-ayam psu... |
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Nov 18 2006, 10:42 AM
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QUOTE(J-Slade @ Nov 18 2006, 10:36 AM) Lets discuss a topic here... Basically with a nice heat sink ..whether u turn to high or low RPM it may not make so much of difference .... unless the heat sink is really weak in dissipate heats.I dunno if you guys have ever tested this. Try to get your fan to fun faster (higher rpm) and see whether the temperature of ur cpu drops? Cos what I did was, I set to a high n low settings... all I got the difference was a 1C Secondly... I dunno how many people notice this but the speed of your intake (masuk) and exhaust (keluar) makes a big difference. But this is odd, my case worked effectively in reverse. They say that your intake should have a higher air flow (cfm) and higher speed (rpm) than your exhuast, but mine is that my exhaust is faster and better air flow than my intake and my case is cooled about 4C better than the 'recommended' sequence... anyone knows why? Is it because we should always suck the hot air out more than bring new cool air in? personally i prefer to have higher rpm for exhaust as it could take out the heat accumulated at the CPU area while the intake should be just enough for cooling off the HDD.... |
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Nov 18 2006, 10:47 AM
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its what you've mentioned. hot air is removed and prevented from recirculating the whole interior of the case.
lets put it this way. by exerting more air into the case, you're creating a compression. to do this you will need powerful pressure fans or better else a air compressor. the output is still not tally with the input thus the hot air is still trapped inside. in addition, your fan might not operate at a high efficiency as the interior has a slight higher pressure as your fan is trying hard to push air in. if your work the other way round, creating a vacuum means more hot air will be removed. the addition of the vacuum in the interior means more atmospheric pressure is forces naturally in to the case. thus, a better cooling. just my 2 cent *edited typo This post has been edited by Vervain: Nov 18 2006, 10:49 AM |
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Nov 18 2006, 10:48 AM
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just wanna know... my hdd fan's speed had increase speed... normal it's lower than 3000rpm... now it's 3360rpm... is it because my hdd became hot and automaticly the fan increase speed to cool down my hdd temp?
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Nov 18 2006, 10:52 AM
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what do you mean by hard disk fan? you mount it to a fan controller 5.25 bay? it depends on the temperature then. the fan controller will calibrate the fan speed according to the temp. you don't want to run the fan at max speed with screaming sound all the time right?
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Nov 18 2006, 10:53 AM
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oh... forgot, i mean the fans that attach in hard disk cooler
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Nov 18 2006, 12:04 PM
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I have another question. Apparently my casing side panel has some 80mm blowholes... should I leave it be or get someone to mod it and close it up with acrylic and make it like 'air tight'? Which is better?
Cos right, when I use paper to paste up the blowholes, the temp of my CPU rise up by 3C.... so how ar? Anyone knows what to do? |
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Nov 18 2006, 12:10 PM
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^why do u wanna close it in the first place?? why not add an 80mm fan there? or why not just leave it as it is?
if ur worried about dust coming in from the blowhole.. then just get some women's pantyhose, cut it up and cover the hole with it. itll act as a filter. but remember to clean it out once in a wihle |
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Nov 18 2006, 01:10 PM
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QUOTE(J-Slade @ Nov 18 2006, 12:04 PM) I have another question. Apparently my casing side panel has some 80mm blowholes... should I leave it be or get someone to mod it and close it up with acrylic and make it like 'air tight'? Which is better? sidepanel is the best place to supply the CPU area with fresh air.....dont block it la....Cos right, when I use paper to paste up the blowholes, the temp of my CPU rise up by 3C.... so how ar? Anyone knows what to do? |
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Nov 18 2006, 01:16 PM
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QUOTE(AllnGap @ Nov 18 2006, 01:10 PM) sidepanel is the best place to supply the CPU area with fresh air.....dont block it la.... I guess I'll just leave the hole there as it is. I dont wanna use a 80mm fan cos it will disrupt the airflow.Hey AllnGap... I finally kena cut by your badass Nidec fan |
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Nov 18 2006, 07:02 PM
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QUOTE(Vervain @ Nov 18 2006, 09:30 AM) normally ppl choose big fans because of low noise and high cfm. lmao... post of the week. high cfm? how high does 22cfm goes? and how quiet is a fan that has 120cfm with 55+ db?  |
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Nov 18 2006, 07:12 PM
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Evercool green fan 80mm spin at 1600rpm only with very little air flow but it is ideal for dead silent setup.
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Nov 18 2006, 07:15 PM
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QUOTE(mengfui @ Nov 18 2006, 07:12 PM) Evercool green fan 80mm spin at 1600rpm only with very little air flow but it is ideal for dead silent setup. Here's smtg interesting. Would you guys sacrifice performance for SILENCE? or silence for PERFORMANCE |
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Nov 18 2006, 07:17 PM
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If me I still prefer silent over performance since my rig not produce so much heat.
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Nov 18 2006, 07:25 PM
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no need to headache about cooling la
just add an air-con, then it will be the greatest solution for every heat hhaaaaa  |
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Nov 18 2006, 07:27 PM
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QUOTE(rudolfjie @ Nov 18 2006, 07:25 PM) no need to headache about cooling la Not funny...just add an air-con, then it will be the greatest solution for every heat hhaaaaa This isn't a thread in the kopitiam and its only for casing fan enthusiasts to ask their questions and discuss stuff. So please... keep ur lame jokes to urself. |
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Nov 18 2006, 07:48 PM
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QUOTE(J-Slade @ Nov 18 2006, 07:15 PM) Here's smtg interesting. Would you guys sacrifice performance for SILENCE? or silence for PERFORMANCE There is no need to sacrifice anything if u strike a good balance. U can haf performance n silence together.As u can c in my sig. My King Kong rig is highly overclocked therefore it produces an incredible amount of heat. My CPU, motherboard n graphics cards r like toasters. Seriously can bake bread in there without proper thermal management. With a good case, good fans, King Kong is as silent as a mouse now. Even my Ferrari laptop is louder than King Kong. |
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Nov 18 2006, 09:39 PM
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QUOTE(ianho @ Nov 18 2006, 07:48 PM) There is no need to sacrifice anything if u strike a good balance. U can haf performance n silence together. WHat exactly are good fans? I'm kinda keen in learning how to secure the best way to cool my casing thru fans...As u can c in my sig. My King Kong rig is highly overclocked therefore it produces an incredible amount of heat. My CPU, motherboard n graphics cards r like toasters. Seriously can bake bread in there without proper thermal management. With a good case, good fans, King Kong is as silent as a mouse now. Even my Ferrari laptop is louder than King Kong. |
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Nov 18 2006, 11:56 PM
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There is no exactly perfect fan when comes to case cooling ... it's more about the design of the casing and flow of the air.....
any medium RPM fan that push around 45+ CFM will do good enough ..... anything higher would causes excessive noise ...and the best is to have clear way ... more things that obstruct the airflow would also causes noise ... example is the HDD cage area that always comes with 12CM fan...of course there is no solution for this scenario unless u water cool the HDD...and remove the fan... but other component such as chipset and gc ram would need the airflow to stay cool.... |
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Nov 19 2006, 01:14 AM
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What bout this?
Enermax Fans...  Anyone tried it before?  Enermax Marathon  Specification: http://www.enermax.com/english/product_per...ail.asp?PrID=61 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Enermax Mega Life  Specification: http://www.enermax.com/english/product_per...ail.asp?PrID=43 sHwTY(tm) This post has been edited by sHawTY: Nov 19 2006, 10:36 PM |
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Nov 19 2006, 01:26 AM
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I personally think one of the fans I got from AllnGap is damn good considering CFM-DB relationship. Am using one on American Apathy and it can be considered silent for the CFM it gives.
NMB 120mm low speed Model : 4715KL - 04W - B19 Dimension : 120*120*38 Speed : 2300 rpm Airflow : 83 cfm Noise level : 37 dBa Current rating : 0.27 A Power consumption : 3.24 W Link : http://www.nmbtc.com/index_f.html * no RPM * suitable for all case cooling and CPU cooling You can check his fans thread. Comparing this fan at RM25 to crap CM's RM29, this one will beat the crap out of all CM fans. The down thing is its kinda heavy to be mounted as a top exhaust unless your case is solid made (unlike my cheap flimsy case on AA) |
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Nov 19 2006, 01:31 AM
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i've heard that side blowholes really disturb the airflow of the casing.. that is why casing that have side blowholes usually have the "hood" or "funnel" that supplies the fresh air directly to the cpu's hsf.. so i guess if you want to use the blowhole, its better to a hood
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Nov 19 2006, 10:53 AM
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if for performance,i refer to Vizo fan...it give good cfm.but produce some sound
if more efficient,try to attach duct directly to the side blow hole fan.it will give good air flow to the proc hsf.. |
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Nov 19 2006, 11:36 PM
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vizo actually.. is vantec rite if not mistaken..
juz rebrand i use UV led vantec.. but remove the led part.. haha damn nice 2.9k rpm... with the nice price..  |
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Nov 20 2006, 01:45 AM
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QUOTE(fantagero @ Nov 19 2006, 11:36 PM) vizo actually.. is vantec rite if not mistaken.. Err, why did you remove the UV Led? juz rebrand i use UV led vantec.. but remove the led part.. haha damn nice 2.9k rpm... with the nice price..  That's what makes the fan uv reactive part lights on... |
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Nov 20 2006, 07:20 AM
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QUOTE(sHawTY @ Nov 20 2006, 01:45 AM) Err, why did you remove the UV Led? bcoz, i hav UV.. that's enough for me.. That's what makes the fan uv reactive part lights on...  like wut post before said.. the led bling bling at nite.. hard for me to sleep.. super cheapo with spin the globe rpm hhahahaa but the noise.. |
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Nov 20 2006, 08:02 AM
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actually the vizo fans are not bad, 1) they are extremly controllable,(the whole range 80,92,120) 2) they are quite cheap for their performance, 3) if u set it up the right way these fans can push lots of air with minimal noise. heck i modded a 80mm vizo uv onto my stock hsf, put it to 1300rpm, the gc artic silencer is louder ..... n it still keep my temps alomost the same,~2+ .
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Nov 20 2006, 09:31 PM
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Agree with lolhalol... but it still kind of noisy if run at default speed ... although the color matching would be nice for UV themed case....
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Nov 21 2006, 03:06 AM
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QUOTE(lolhalol @ Nov 20 2006, 08:02 AM) actually the vizo fans are not bad, 1) they are extremly controllable,(the whole range 80,92,120) 2) they are quite cheap for their performance, 3) if u set it up the right way these fans can push lots of air with minimal noise. heck i modded a 80mm vizo uv onto my stock hsf, put it to 1300rpm, the gc artic silencer is louder ..... n it still keep my temps alomost the same,~2+ . im agree with uvizo fans can push lot of air... like hair dryer |
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Nov 21 2006, 10:06 AM
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QUOTE(id86 @ Nov 21 2006, 03:06 AM) im agree with u u obviously have not tried the delta FFBs vizo fans can push lot of air... like hair dryer |
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Nov 21 2006, 10:45 AM
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QUOTE(mADmAN @ Nov 21 2006, 10:06 AM) u obviously have not tried the delta FFBs only slightly different ma...both can make hair dryer |
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Nov 21 2006, 10:52 AM
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SLIGHTLY?????? SLIGHTLY??????
wah liao... u OBVIOUSLY have not tried the Delta FFBs  60cfm vs 190cfm for the 120mm version u think leh? slightly or not?  This post has been edited by mADmAN: Nov 21 2006, 10:55 AM |
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Nov 21 2006, 11:04 AM
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ho.. the different is by at least 3 or 4 times more .... maybe u could visit OC pardise...
see yourself the different ... it's like u can feel the airflow even at half a meter away .... no way to compare.... |
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Nov 21 2006, 11:19 AM
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i have the 190cfm ffb delta fan. the whole fan is so heavy but due to the raw juice that's in the fan, its capable of propelling itself and run around the room if its not fasten. personally i think the fan is not practical cause of the terrible noise. it's mention that its not compatible with sidewinder controller. is there anyway to mount a VR to it?
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Nov 21 2006, 11:23 AM
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as far as i know there are NO commercial VRs/ fan controllers that are able to support the Delta FFB. u want one ur gonna have to DIY urself one that supports high amps.
what i did with mine was a 5v/12v switch. that worked rather well.. but then not all FFBs can run at 5v. out of the 4 units i have only 1 can run at 5v. the rest would just die. but they were all able to run at 7v though. |
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Nov 21 2006, 07:36 PM
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QUOTE(Vervain @ Nov 21 2006, 11:19 AM) i have the 190cfm ffb delta fan. the whole fan is so heavy but due to the raw juice that's in the fan, its capable of propelling itself and run around the room if its not fasten. personally i think the fan is not practical cause of the terrible noise. it's mention that its not compatible with sidewinder controller. is there anyway to mount a VR to it? whoooaaa...so powerful.if lay on the ground,can it lift itself?maybe if put in cpu,much turbulent flow will produce. |
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Nov 21 2006, 09:21 PM
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QUOTE(mADmAN @ Nov 21 2006, 11:23 AM) as far as i know there are NO commercial VRs/ fan controllers that are able to support the Delta FFB. u want one ur gonna have to DIY urself one that supports high amps. neat. how much air flow can the baby run on such low voltage? what i'm concern is the sound. if commercial stock fans can push a decent cfm and lower noise dB as compared with the FFB then its impractical to use the modded fan.what i did with mine was a 5v/12v switch. that worked rather well.. but then not all FFBs can run at 5v. out of the 4 units i have only 1 can run at 5v. the rest would just die. but they were all able to run at 7v though. |
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Nov 22 2006, 05:38 PM
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Err dont know if this is off topic, but is anyone using the mcubed tbalancer BigNG? seems like able to do alot of stuff but also looks complex.
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Nov 22 2006, 05:47 PM
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QUOTE(Vervain @ Nov 21 2006, 09:21 PM) neat. how much air flow can the baby run on such low voltage? what i'm concern is the sound. if commercial stock fans can push a decent cfm and lower noise dB as compared with the FFB then its impractical to use the modded fan. no idea about the dba or rpm or the cfm when its undervolted...but i find that the air pressure is still quite alright at 5v. u should try it at 5v and 7v... but IMHO if u wanna undervolt the FFBs then do it with a switch which is what i did... im not at home during the day so i leave it at 12v to really cool the processor during the hot day and in my hot + bad ventilation room. but when im around i let it run at 5v as its waaaaaaayyy quieter. the only thing bugging me at night when i wanna sleep would be the vantec spectrum 80mm fan in my case. that damn 80mm fan is way louder than the FFB at 5v. |
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Nov 22 2006, 08:22 PM
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does LYP sells the power adapter that taps only 7V from the 12v molex? which shop?
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Nov 22 2006, 08:56 PM
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just tried with my ffb, tough luck. it won't move an inch. better settle with the old nidec beta V
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Nov 22 2006, 09:01 PM
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hey..does fans consume a lot of electric?
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Nov 22 2006, 09:26 PM
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QUOTE(Canopies @ Nov 22 2006, 09:01 PM) hey..does fans consume a lot of electric? That depend on the type of fan u're using...If the fan are faster, it'll need more current, more amps... Capiche?  |
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Nov 23 2006, 01:11 AM
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QUOTE(Skylinestar @ Nov 22 2006, 08:22 PM) does LYP sells the power adapter that taps only 7V from the 12v molex? which shop? dont think so... if u can find oso it might be for 12v/5v. might look something like this if u want 7v just put the (+) wire into the yellow cable of the molex and (-) wire into the red cable of the molex. QUOTE(Vervain @ Nov 22 2006, 08:56 PM) just tried with my ffb, tough luck. it won't move an inch. better settle with the old nidec beta V not even at 7v? if yes was ur pc running when u tried it at 7v? if 5v cannot then i understand la..coz like i said..not all FFBs can run at 5v. but 7v should be ok wat.. only thing is ur PSU needs to have a load like the HDD or GC etc to be able to run at 7v. coz when i tested at 7v on my test PSU it dint move coz theres no load on the PSU but on my PSU which is in the PC it was ok. |
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Nov 23 2006, 12:14 PM
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is it really one 12cm fan is better then 2 12cm fan?
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Nov 23 2006, 01:50 PM
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i am also one of delta fan lover..my pc have 2 delta fans now..1 120mm and 1 80mm one..the 120mm one i DIY it to a switch that switch between 5v and 12v..normally will put it in 5v..if put it in 12v then the air is damn damn big...the fan will even push itself away...
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Nov 23 2006, 01:52 PM
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QUOTE(Edi8888 @ Nov 23 2006, 12:14 PM) is it really one 12cm fan is better then 2 12cm fan? which one are u comparing? 1) single 12cm fan to 12cm x 2 2) 12cm VS 8cm X 2 12cm perform definately better than two 8cm ... it push more similar airflow at lower spin ... which also mean lower noise ..... 1 12cm fan vs 2 12cm fans is hard to judge.... but having two 12cm fan close together perform not as good as having it separated apart for certain distance...... it cool off larger area..... |
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 Nov 23 2006, 02:35 PM
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Well, how about two 8cm fans running at around 4800 rpm, wouldn't that give a better airflow than a single 12 cm fan? Just wondering if I'm right about this and of course, noise is definitely present at such a speed.
 QUOTE(Doom @ Nov 23 2006, 01:52 PM) which one are u comparing? 1) single 12cm fan to 12cm x 2 2) 12cm VS 8cm X 2 12cm perform definately better than two 8cm ... it push more similar airflow at lower spin ... which also mean lower noise ..... 1 12cm fan vs 2 12cm fans is hard to judge.... but having two 12cm fan close together perform not as good as having it separated apart for certain distance...... it cool off larger area..... |
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Nov 23 2006, 05:36 PM
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which shop is selling this? can estimate the price? This post has been edited by Skylinestar: Nov 23 2006, 05:37 PM |
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Nov 23 2006, 05:50 PM
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QUOTE(Skylinestar @ Nov 23 2006, 05:36 PM) which shop is selling this? can estimate the price? |
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Nov 23 2006, 05:54 PM
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u can also check with moderno or dinster...
i remember one of them was selling it. |
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Nov 23 2006, 09:18 PM
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QUOTE(sunauto @ Nov 23 2006, 02:35 PM) Well, how about two 8cm fans running at around 4800 rpm, wouldn't that give a better airflow than a single 12 cm fan? Just wondering if I'm right about this and of course, noise is definitely present at such a speed. of course it win.. and noise level would be unbearable .. question is why would u do so ? unless u are favoring fan noise .... |
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Nov 23 2006, 11:27 PM
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Anyone using the silverstone fm121?
------------------------------------------------------ Speed 800 ~ 2400rpm Airflow Max. 110.03CFM Noise Level 17dBA at 800rpm, 39.5dBA at 2400rpm ------------------------------------------------------ specs not too shabby right, provided its accurate. This post has been edited by cablesguy: Nov 23 2006, 11:28 PM |
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Nov 24 2006, 09:20 AM
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What an expensive fan and low availability .... however really interested to experience it before buying it ....
anyone here have tried it ??? |
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Nov 24 2006, 10:24 AM
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QUOTE(Skylinestar @ Nov 23 2006, 05:36 PM) which shop is selling this? can estimate the price? QUOTE(cablesguy @ Nov 23 2006, 11:27 PM) Anyone using the silverstone fm121? I really like this fan too. Nice 9 blade design. great airflow but y on earth they oni make it in white I really dont understand. That's the worst color ever for a case fan. After 1 week will b full of dust n stained oredi.
------------------------------------------------------ Speed 800 ~ 2400rpm Airflow Max. 110.03CFM Noise Level 17dBA at 800rpm, 39.5dBA at 2400rpm ------------------------------------------------------ specs not too shabby right, provided its accurate. I so wanted to bu it when I saw it in LYP but it's white......................... If only got UV blue.This post has been edited by ianho: Nov 24 2006, 10:27 AM |
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Nov 24 2006, 11:46 AM
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QUOTE(ianho @ Nov 24 2006, 10:24 AM) Aiyaaa, can mod it ureself mar. So easy just cut the wire n join back. Nonid waste money. I kinda agree with you man. If only they come out more colour option... still i'm planning to get it soon from king_maker20 bulk order I really like this fan too. Nice 9 blade design. great airflow but y on earth they oni make it in white I really dont understand. That's the worst color ever for a case fan. After 1 week will b full of dust n stained oredi. I so wanted to bu it when I saw it in LYP but it's white......................... If only got UV blue. |
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Nov 24 2006, 11:52 AM
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QUOTE(ianho @ Nov 24 2006, 10:24 AM) I really like this fan too. Nice 9 blade design. great airflow but y on earth they oni make it in white I really dont understand. That's the worst color ever for a case fan. After 1 week will b full of dust n stained oredi. in response to the bolded statement I so wanted to bu it when I saw it in LYP but it's white......................... If only got UV blue.im gonna quote something u said in the same post QUOTE(ianho @ Nov 24 2006, 10:24 AM) Aiyaaa, can mod it ureself mar. fluorescent blue spray paint anyone? or theres another option to make it UV Blue...u can check out THIS THREAD to make it UV blue This post has been edited by mADmAN: Nov 24 2006, 11:53 AM |
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Nov 24 2006, 11:52 AM
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QUOTE(storm721984 @ Nov 24 2006, 11:46 AM) I kinda agree with you man. If only they come out more colour option... still i'm planning to get it soon from king_maker20 bulk order Y wait for bulk? It's oredi available in LYP. |
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Nov 24 2006, 12:01 PM
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QUOTE(mADmAN @ Nov 24 2006, 11:52 AM) in response to the bolded statement I despise painted fans lar. Makes them imbalanced n hard to clean. My place is very dusty n the rig needs to b cleaned every week.im gonna quote something u said in the same post fluorescent blue spray paint anyone? or theres another option to make it UV Blue...u can check out THIS THREAD to make it UV blue |
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Nov 24 2006, 12:07 PM
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QUOTE(ianho @ Nov 24 2006, 11:52 AM) Y wait for bulk? It's oredi available in LYP. Would u mind telling me which shop of LYP? and how much? |
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Nov 24 2006, 12:08 PM
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QUOTE(storm721984 @ Nov 24 2006, 12:07 PM) Would u mind telling me which shop of LYP? and how much? I saw it at All IT n MyPC. Few other shops oso got wat. |
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Nov 24 2006, 12:12 PM
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QUOTE(ianho @ Nov 24 2006, 12:08 PM) I saw it at All IT n MyPC. Few other shops oso got wat. If what u say is true then i will be there ASAP~! from Shah Alamso to confirm on things when was the last time u actually saw the 12cm version (SILVERSTONE FMA 121) |
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Nov 24 2006, 12:15 PM
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QUOTE(storm721984 @ Nov 24 2006, 12:12 PM) If what u say is true then i will be there ASAP~! from Shah Alam It's been there for few weeks d.so to confirm on things when was the last time u actually saw the 12cm version (SILVERSTONE FMA 121) |
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Nov 24 2006, 12:20 PM
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QUOTE(cablesguy @ Nov 23 2006, 11:27 PM) Anyone using the silverstone fm121? using the fan paired with the ninja. erm. noisiest fan in my pc. at full speed it's around 46db. even my nidec betta V is not as loud as it. this is one of the few 25mm thick fan that can reach beyond 100cfm. well interms of usage its pretty oke la. the bundled fan controller panel is alu silver and you can calibrate the fan speed up to your needs. as for me, the low speed is totally useless. i think at 2400rpm it pushes the same cfm as normal coolermaster fan. erm, motor might get warm a bit if you run the fan 24/7. For me, this is one of the best performance fan, cause as mentioned, it can push 110cfm approximately and other 25mm which can push similar cfm often have large dead spots. as for noise wise, its something you have to bear with it. but for tower hsf which cannot hold fans thicker than 25mm, this is one of the fan you should look into it. The white fan is really trouble some when you're doing maintenance, cause dust might dirt or scratch the fan. i've noticed that the sticker is printed evercool. could there be that sliverstone obtain the fan from evercool?
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Nov 24 2006, 01:42 PM
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Can you tell me how can the dust and dirt will scratch fan???
im having doubt that the dust and dirt will actually scratch the fan.... |
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Nov 24 2006, 02:07 PM
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i have the same doubt here as well.... btw which CM fan u were referring to that can push same amount of CFM....
as far as i know CM fan push lower cfm ... |
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Nov 24 2006, 06:28 PM
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QUOTE(ianho @ Nov 24 2006, 11:52 AM) Y wait for bulk? It's oredi available in LYP. Ian where to get in LY, the disti currently got no stock n i think one of the shops there selling for like 80bucks, ovr inflated price i think. |
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Nov 24 2006, 07:47 PM
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QUOTE(storm721984 @ Nov 24 2006, 01:42 PM) Can you tell me how can the dust and dirt will scratch fan??? It's when u clean the fan. That's when it gets scratched. When u use a brush to clean off the dust, it will definitely leave scratches on the fan. Plus it will never b perfectly clean especially if the fan is white, it will haf stains on it. im having doubt that the dust and dirt will actually scratch the fan.... QUOTE(Doom @ Nov 24 2006, 02:07 PM) i have the same doubt here as well.... btw which CM fan u were referring to that can push same amount of CFM.... He typo lar I think. What he probably means is when the Silverstone is at minimum 800RPM then same CFM as the CM fan.as far as i know CM fan push lower cfm ... QUOTE(cablesguy @ Nov 24 2006, 06:28 PM) Ian where to get in LY, the disti currently got no stock n i think one of the shops there selling for like 80bucks, ovr inflated price i think. Well, 80 bux but it comes with a fan controller wat. So it's quite ok. Ask AhPaul lar. He shud haf it. |
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Nov 24 2006, 07:50 PM
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yeah precisely uncle ian. thanks for clearing the doubt.
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Nov 24 2006, 11:15 PM
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I just back from LYP and thanks to ianho for the info
Sad to say that i could not find any SilverStone FM121 but i did manage to find SilverStone FM122 which ONLY at MyPC..... |
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Nov 24 2006, 11:22 PM
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did anyone here mentioned abt windstorm by vizo ? that 81.3cfm@5.8krpm one ??
rm55 , produce like 61dB is i didnt see it wrongly , but the wind from the fans , really strong , recommened is u r a deaf |
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Nov 24 2006, 11:32 PM
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I havent actually tested it yet since travelling from Shah Alam to LYP with public transportation is madness but i manage to snap some photo on the SilverStone FM122 (By the way photo quality a little bad cause i use my O2 mini...)
  Seriously i think its worth it to get this product as they came with a very good set of bundle as it come with a speed controller that is aluminium, fan grill and a set of screws for RM55 Here is the difference with FM121 and FM122 (Left is FM121| Right is FM122) Dimension: 120 x 120 x 25mm | 120 x 120 x 32mm Material: Both are Plastic(PC) Color: Both white Bearing : Both dual ball bearing Rated Voltage: Both 12 VDC Start Voltage: 5 VDC | 7 VDC Rated Current: 0.40A (Max. 0.45A) | 0.65A (Max. 0.65A) Rated Power: 4.8W (Max. 5.4W) | 7.8W (Max. 7.8W) Speed: Both 800 ~ 2400rpm Air Flow: Max. 110.03CFM | 107.13CFM Static Pressure: Max. 3.26mmH2O | Max. 5.68mmH2O Noise Level: 17dBA at 800rpm, 39.5dBA at 2400rpm(FM121) 22dBA at 800rpm, 44.1dBA at 2400rpm(FM122) Life Expectancy: Both 50,000 hours Hope this info helps |
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Nov 25 2006, 01:10 AM
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post ur actual performance opinion men.....
wanted to know how well it perform since it's quite expensive.... |
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Nov 25 2006, 01:21 AM
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QUOTE(Doom @ Nov 25 2006, 01:10 AM) post ur actual performance opinion men..... Where got expensive? rm55 for a good fan plus fan controller is damn super duper califragilistically cheap man. wanted to know how well it perform since it's quite expensive.... Just normal fan controller oso cost more than that d. |
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Nov 25 2006, 11:36 AM
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QUOTE(player10 @ Nov 24 2006, 11:22 PM) did anyone here mentioned abt windstorm by vizo ? that 81.3cfm@5.8krpm one ?? i had mentioned it beforerm55 , produce like 61dB is i didnt see it wrongly , but the wind from the fans , really strong , recommened is u r a deaf very noisy like u said but the air blow from it was very strong good cfm |
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Nov 25 2006, 11:40 AM
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I have a question, my side panel has like 3 mountings for 80mm fan (those honeycomb ones). The layout is like this
[ ] <--- the 80mm honeycomb fan mounting [ ][ ] <---' If I mount 3 cap ayam 80mm casing fan there as compared to leaving it alone (let the air just masuk the lubang), will it make much difference? |
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Nov 25 2006, 11:55 AM
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QUOTE(J-Slade @ Nov 25 2006, 11:40 AM) I have a question, my side panel has like 3 mountings for 80mm fan (those honeycomb ones). The layout is like this i think had some difference since using fan can help in air flow rather than just leave it...am i correct?[ ] <--- the 80mm honeycomb fan mounting [ ][ ] <---' If I mount 3 cap ayam 80mm casing fan there as compared to leaving it alone (let the air just masuk the lubang), will it make much difference? |
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Nov 25 2006, 12:00 PM
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QUOTE(ianho @ Nov 25 2006, 01:21 AM) Where got expensive? rm55 for a good fan plus fan controller is damn super duper califragilistically cheap man. waklaka what a expression Just normal fan controller oso cost more than that d. anyway whats the meaning of califragilistically?? rm55 consider cheap ke? hmm if compare cm led silent with this silverstone, i think it`s cheaper than cm one. wait a minute. i`m still confuse about airflow. isit good or not for having 3 intake fan with just only 1 exhaust?  This post has been edited by serez: Nov 25 2006, 12:03 PM |
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Nov 25 2006, 12:02 PM
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QUOTE(id86 @ Nov 25 2006, 11:55 AM) i think had some difference since using fan can help in air flow rather than just leave it...am i correct? Thats what I am trying to find out.. but according to some, they say 80mm fan's cfm no feel... no point going for those..  QUOTE(serez @ Nov 25 2006, 12:00 PM) waklaka what a expression It is cheap... some fan controllers can reach up to RM70 for just the controller. Actually its odd, fan controllers are just basically variable resistors... if u can put aside the design and all, u can make ur own. Just like what Allngap does.. rm55 consider cheap ke? hmm if compare cm led silent with this silverstone, i think it`s cheaper than cm one. |
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Nov 25 2006, 01:39 PM
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QUOTE(ianho @ Nov 25 2006, 01:21 AM) Where got expensive? rm55 for a good fan plus fan controller is damn super duper califragilistically cheap man. since u have mentioned it ... we can't find any other place that sell the silverstone fan other than MyPC ..... Just normal fan controller oso cost more than that d.any more specific shop ?? interested here but want to check out on other shop as well... |
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Nov 25 2006, 02:26 PM
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from the spreadsheet it shows fm121 is better. lower startup, power usage and higher cfm. but the noise level? i think it's not the actual figure until you measure with sound level meter.
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Nov 25 2006, 04:19 PM
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QUOTE(Doom @ Nov 25 2006, 01:39 PM) since u have mentioned it ... we can't find any other place that sell the silverstone fan other than MyPC ..... confirmed disti got no stock of fm121, already double check.any more specific shop ?? interested here but want to check out on other shop as well... |
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Nov 25 2006, 04:49 PM
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I just tested it a while ago and somehow its impressive as the airflow for this fan is good which thanks to the design of the 9 blade and much wider dimension.
About noise level i would say it's noisy once reach above 1300rpm but this is my estimation as i havent place it in my casing. I plan to record a video and place it at Youtube when i got the time For now i can say this fan is really nice for those who prefer more airflow and from what i know this fan actually produce less vibration even with high rpm |
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Nov 28 2006, 09:47 PM
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QUOTE(serez @ Nov 25 2006, 12:00 PM) waklaka what a expression how much is the CM LED silent? anyway whats the meaning of califragilistically?? rm55 consider cheap ke? hmm if compare cm led silent with this silverstone, i think it`s cheaper than cm one. wait a minute. i`m still confuse about airflow. isit good or not for having 3 intake fan with just only 1 exhaust? by the way, what's the best fan controller? must have black aluminum faceplate. This post has been edited by Skylinestar: Nov 28 2006, 09:49 PM |
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Nov 28 2006, 11:30 PM
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QUOTE(Skylinestar @ Nov 28 2006, 09:47 PM) how much is the CM LED silent? It would cost RM30 in most LYP shop.... nice but prefer UV fan as it is even more silence ...i dont particularly concern so much of the airflow .. by the way, what's the best fan controller? must have black aluminum faceplate. |
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Nov 29 2006, 03:48 PM
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rm 23 at lowyat , all-IT hypermarket . nice .. the farking led in the fan is dem strong . ur eyes will get blind if u look at it too long . it lighted up almost my hole casing
. its silence , and nice . but i hav a vizo 80mm 2900rpm fans also .. the performance is great . abit noise but not loud . but the uv sucks ^^ |
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Nov 29 2006, 06:18 PM
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QUOTE(Doom @ Nov 28 2006, 11:30 PM) It would cost RM30 in most LYP shop.... nice but prefer UV fan as it is even more silence ...i dont particularly concern so much of the airflow .. according to the coolermaster website, both the LED and UV 12cm fans are rated 22DdB. but u say UV one is more silent. why? CM spec is wrong? |
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Nov 29 2006, 07:42 PM
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I compare both of it on the spot ... somehow ... UV spin lower than LED version ... which also lead to lower CFM and ultimately lower noise ....
spec is always spec ..it has never 100% correct .. just like handphone as well if u try from different store .. u will notice the LCD screen color and keypad touch is slightly different ... |
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Nov 29 2006, 08:44 PM
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QUOTE(Doom @ Nov 29 2006, 07:42 PM) I compare both of it on the spot ... somehow ... UV spin lower than LED version ... which also lead to lower CFM and ultimately lower noise .... LCD screen can calibrate mahh. maybe the keypad has been pressed too many times by people like us spec is always spec ..it has never 100% correct .. just like handphone as well if u try from different store .. u will notice the LCD screen color and keypad touch is slightly different ... |
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Nov 29 2006, 10:47 PM
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the cm led fan is very silent but too slow i think, if wan get the thermaltake blue led smartcase fan or silverstone fm121/122 n run at half speed shud be ok i think, furthermore the led's for the cm fan will brighten or dim according to the speed of the fan, abit irritating, the tt leds very constant...slow or fast same brightness
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Nov 29 2006, 10:49 PM
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Agree with the TT fan ... but i just don't really like Blue LED smartcase fan as the noise is quite loud.... unless lower down to 1K RPM .. if that's the situation might as well use something that only spin around that RPM....
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Nov 30 2006, 05:48 PM
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QUOTE(Doom @ Nov 29 2006, 10:49 PM) Agree with the TT fan ... but i just don't really like Blue LED smartcase fan as the noise is quite loud.... unless lower down to 1K RPM .. if that's the situation might as well use something that only spin around that RPM.... ya its loud alright, but would be good to hv a few high cfm fans inside....just in case temp suddenly go haywire or heatwave or something. I tend to run the fans higher when i leave the pc or play games.But would be good if can find fans pushing 80-90cfm around 30db. |
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Nov 30 2006, 05:56 PM
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we all have just to deal with it, want a higher CFM must bear the higher dB
 wanna ask, is 90mm same with 92mm fans??? wanna buy 90mm fan, but see a lot of 92mm fan, are they the same???  This post has been edited by E-J@1: Nov 30 2006, 06:33 PM |
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Nov 30 2006, 09:45 PM
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I am curious here as well.. i being asking my friend what's different between 90 and 92 mm fan ...
storm721984 told me it's the same ... but still curious about the actual fact... manufacturer fact doesn't seems to be reliable ... |
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Nov 30 2006, 10:19 PM
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QUOTE(E-J@1 @ Nov 30 2006, 05:56 PM) we all have just to deal with it, want a higher CFM must bear the higher dB Since u looking for 90-92mm fans, why dont get thiswanna ask, is 90mm same with 92mm fans??? wanna buy 90mm fan, but see a lot of 92mm fan, are they the same??? 
92mm fans with 110 blades, higher cfm, its the silverstone fm92, tried the fm82, it sure pushes alot of air but at max quite noisy.... This post has been edited by cablesguy: Nov 30 2006, 10:22 PM |
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Nov 30 2006, 10:20 PM
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where to get beside the bulk ?? hardly seen it in retail shop around LYP..
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Nov 30 2006, 10:25 PM
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QUOTE(Doom @ Nov 30 2006, 10:20 PM) where to get beside the bulk ?? hardly seen it in retail shop around LYP.. ask ahpaul82, maybe he can get.... |
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Nov 30 2006, 10:29 PM
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ic ic .. wait until i got my Thermalright HR-03.. see whether need to fix with fan to cool off my X1900XT ...
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Nov 30 2006, 10:33 PM
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QUOTE(Doom @ Nov 30 2006, 10:29 PM) ic ic .. wait until i got my Thermalright HR-03.. see whether need to fix with fan to cool off my X1900XT ... anyway i saw only left abt 3 or 4 of those fans left....altho i cant remember was it fm82 or fm92. |
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Nov 30 2006, 10:42 PM
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QUOTE(cablesguy @ Nov 30 2006, 10:19 PM) Since u looking for 90-92mm fans, why dont get this yeah, already checked that silverstone, but i wanna uv fan or led fan or uv led fan, cheap one la & not with the speed control....
92mm fans with 110 blades, higher cfm, its the silverstone fm92, tried the fm82, it sure pushes alot of air but at max quite noisy....  |
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Nov 30 2006, 11:09 PM
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well.. i tried wif the fan speed controller.. spin faster.. but ony minimum increase.. currently.. still need sum opinion from ppl who are 'fan god' out there...
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QUOTE(Mavik @ Nov 14 2006, 11:17 AM) Dude, just get a fan speed controller, a good reputable one because some of them allow for over-voltage control meaning you can supply your fans with more than 12V without going through the hassle of cutting through your fan wires and then soldering them with the PSU wires. can give an example of good reputable one? |
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Dec 1 2006, 11:00 AM
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I think u can try ngbh bulk orders ... he got few UV fan , LED fan ....
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Dec 1 2006, 11:02 AM
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QUOTE(Doom @ Dec 1 2006, 11:00 AM) I think u can try ngbh bulk orders ... he got few UV fan , LED fan .... still hasn't got a solid answer for the 90/92mm fan, are they the same? |
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Dec 1 2006, 12:51 PM
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anyway does the two mm really makes significant difference ?
if not why bother as long as the screw hole align properly.... it will fit just fine .... |
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Dec 1 2006, 02:48 PM
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QUOTE(Doom @ Dec 1 2006, 12:51 PM) anyway does the two mm really makes significant difference ? i know the difference isn't material, just wanna know onli if not why bother as long as the screw hole align properly.... it will fit just fine .... don't worry lor already got the answer  i all know that some manufacturer consider their fan is 92mm while some 90mm so is all the same , nuf said, time to search for 9xmm fan  |
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Dec 1 2006, 05:38 PM
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Check out this link:
120mm fan @ 90cfm at 18Dba .....dont know if this is bs or what..somore power consumption so lowhttp://www.silenx.com/ixtremaprofans.asp?sku=ixp-76-18 |
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Dec 1 2006, 08:20 PM
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QUOTE(cablesguy @ Dec 1 2006, 05:38 PM) Check out this link: what the hell! 120mm fan @ 90cfm at 18Dba .....dont know if this is bs or what..somore power consumption so lowhttp://www.silenx.com/ixtremaprofans.asp?sku=ixp-76-18  is this for real? never seen this brand before...anyway, is it available in m'sia? |
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Dec 1 2006, 08:21 PM
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QUOTE(cablesguy @ Dec 1 2006, 05:38 PM) Check out this link: OMG! 120mm fan @ 90cfm at 18Dba .....dont know if this is bs or what..somore power consumption so lowhttp://www.silenx.com/ixtremaprofans.asp?sku=ixp-76-18 i wanna buy a lot of these!! |
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Dec 1 2006, 08:23 PM
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QUOTE(Skylinestar @ Dec 1 2006, 08:21 PM) OMG! u bet, with low rpm & dB can produce 90cfm, hhhhmmmmm, is this possible? i wanna buy a lot of these!!maybe cause of the fan blade.... |
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Dec 1 2006, 11:44 PM
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kinda hard to believe actually....anyone manage to find any reviews pls post the link here dont mind, cant seem to find any.....
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Dec 1 2006, 11:59 PM
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the silenx fans has been around for quite some time... just that theyre not available here... so theyre not that known here.
u could try and search for some reviews...im sure therell be some. |
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Dec 2 2006, 12:24 AM
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QUOTE(mADmAN @ Dec 1 2006, 11:59 PM) the silenx fans has been around for quite some time... just that theyre not available here... so theyre not that known here. thx...can find reviews on other sizes of the silenx except that particular one....u could try and search for some reviews...im sure therell be some. |
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Dec 2 2006, 12:26 AM
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vantec got 1..
i forgot d name ad.. but is three channel for fan.. + 1 channel to control CCFL.. not bad |
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Dec 2 2006, 01:44 AM
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i saw one icute casing with a BIG BIG fan.. around 20++ cm...
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Dec 2 2006, 09:18 AM
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QUOTE(cablesguy @ Dec 1 2006, 05:38 PM) Check out this link: if you've done the feedback research on this product, you'll know what the ratings are exaggerated.....120mm fan @ 90cfm at 18Dba .....dont know if this is bs or what..somore power consumption so lowhttp://www.silenx.com/ixtremaprofans.asp?sku=ixp-76-18 the fan is just a cheap china made fan.....basically it's not that silent when you use it and the bearings(not too sure whether they use bearings or not also) will wear and you'll hear annoying sound...... |
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Dec 2 2006, 11:35 AM
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Guess it does not last long right for its silence... .
too bad else it would be amazing to see how well the fan could perform ... |
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Dec 2 2006, 06:11 PM
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QUOTE(AllnGap @ Dec 2 2006, 09:18 AM) if you've done the feedback research on this product, you'll know what the ratings are exaggerated..... we'll if u still had a few comair rotrons for sale, i wouldnt hv to go thru the trouble of looking for extra fansthe fan is just a cheap china made fan.....basically it's not that silent when you use it and the bearings(not too sure whether they use bearings or not also) will wear and you'll hear annoying sound...... |
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Dec 3 2006, 06:48 AM
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AFAIK , silenx fans always underrate their noise level. The actual noise is far higher than the rated dba.
Currently the best 120mm review at SPRC is NOCTUA NF-S12 SERIES Case Fan http://www.silentpcreview.com/article695-page4.html but it is for those who wants absolute silent |
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Dec 3 2006, 01:33 PM
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haha i would love for that if the color isn't what i don't want .....
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Dec 3 2006, 03:13 PM
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U can always mod it or ask for help from AllNGap bro
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Dec 3 2006, 04:36 PM
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QUOTE(s[H]sIkuA @ Dec 3 2006, 06:48 AM) AFAIK , silenx fans always underrate their noise level. The actual noise is far higher than the rated dba. actually 63cfm is not bad....isit it avail in KL??Currently the best 120mm review at SPRC is NOCTUA NF-S12 SERIES Case Fan http://www.silentpcreview.com/article695-page4.html but it is for those who wants absolute silent |
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Dec 3 2006, 05:20 PM
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hey guys,
i've just found some shop sellin' 25cm here at KT.... cost about rm35 each? forgot how much cfm@dba but he says, the fan produce some noise lolx... cap? forgot ma ...worth it? if yes, should i let it intake@exhaust at sidepanel? |
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Dec 4 2006, 01:59 AM
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Hi , any 1 selling delta fan here ?? wah , must try delta fan . any1 brand fan has a higher rpm den delta ???
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Dec 4 2006, 05:20 PM
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Dec 7 2006, 10:03 PM
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i've just mod my rear casing fan to run at 5v. it's quiet but CPU idle temp raise from 36 to 39c.
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Dec 8 2006, 10:01 AM
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Too bad hard to get silent fans in local market .....
5V mean runningin what RPM ???? |
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Dec 8 2006, 10:15 AM
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different fan comes with different RPM
normal fan we use usually runs at 12v ,except u got a fan controller or u mod it ofcourse |
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Dec 8 2006, 11:32 AM
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Hi, does anyone like to do some fan mod here? Got lot of fans would like to trade with some UV LED fans...
I posted the thread at the sales section with pics here: http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=378232&hl= |
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Dec 8 2006, 03:04 PM
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But different fan has different RPM standard.. .soem faster some slower..
how to judge then ?? |
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Dec 8 2006, 07:15 PM
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I not really sure, some fan company uses different technology like the Noctua fan which can provide higher cubic feet per minute (CFM) with a lower rpm...I think its very hard to say which fan is better
The review shown in SPCR is conducted with noise as the main concern ,it doesnt mean the Noctua is the best fan but it provide the highest noise/performance ratio according to them ,which IMHO is very important these days, people don't focus on raw performance anymore. More and more factors like noise, temp, power consumption etc etc are important in a pc as well My personal experience : I have used Thermaltake Volcano 7 Max speed for over 1/2 year and I noe what its like to use a super noisy pc , if that time I can choose, ill choose to lower my fan speed by sacrificing the speed of my proc but what to do, fan controller rosak |
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Dec 8 2006, 07:34 PM
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QUOTE(Doom @ Dec 8 2006, 10:01 AM) Too bad hard to get silent fans in local market ..... don't know. it's a 120mm fan. if run at full 12v, it is 2200rpm (stated on the box of the fan) 5V mean runningin what RPM ???? damn noisy. 40db as stated on the box. i don't have SPL meter.at 12v, it's 80cfm. lots of airflow. at 5v, airflow too little, hardly feel the air blowing my hand. but damn quiet. This post has been edited by Skylinestar: Dec 9 2006, 09:32 AM |
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Dec 11 2006, 09:33 PM
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did anybody now where to grt
12" fan??? if posible be aroumd kl |
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Dec 11 2006, 09:34 PM
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QUOTE(azim_lowyat @ Dec 11 2006, 09:33 PM) did anybody now where to grt 12" or 12cm? 12" fan??? if posible be aroumd kl |
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Dec 11 2006, 09:45 PM
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QUOTE(azim_lowyat @ Dec 11 2006, 09:33 PM) did anybody now where to grt if u mean 12cm then ly can find, if u mean 12" then maybe electrical shop 12" fan??? if posible be aroumd kl |
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Dec 11 2006, 10:21 PM
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i think he means those 25cm fan that mounts on the sidepanel.
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Dec 12 2006, 12:16 AM
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QUOTE(s[H]sIkuA @ Dec 8 2006, 07:15 PM) I not really sure, some fan company uses different technology like the Noctua fan which can provide higher cubic feet per minute (CFM) with a lower rpm...I think its very hard to say which fan is better Same here .. that's why i go for Cooler Master fan ...despite the airflow generated much lower ... but as long as the heat sink is good enough .. it still can do the job...The review shown in SPCR is conducted with noise as the main concern ,it doesnt mean the Noctua is the best fan but it provide the highest noise/performance ratio according to them ,which IMHO is very important these days, people don't focus on raw performance anymore. More and more factors like noise, temp, power consumption etc etc are important in a pc as well My personal experience : I have used Thermaltake Volcano 7 Max speed for over 1/2 year and I noe what its like to use a super noisy pc , if that time I can choose, ill choose to lower my fan speed by sacrificing the speed of my proc but what to do, fan controller rosak |
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Dec 13 2006, 07:49 PM
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Can recommend some 140mm case fans for me??
Better if can run sillent, no blink light also nvm. |
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Dec 13 2006, 10:52 PM
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QUOTE(yehlai @ Dec 13 2006, 07:49 PM) Can recommend some 140mm case fans for me?? heres a linkBetter if can run sillent, no blink light also nvm. http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/ind...index&cPath=316 try googling for 140mm fans |
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Dec 13 2006, 11:16 PM
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QUOTE(s[H]sIkuA @ Dec 8 2006, 07:15 PM) My personal experience : I have used Thermaltake Volcano 7 Max speed for over 1/2 year and I noe what its like to use a super noisy pc , if that time I can choose, ill choose to lower my fan speed by sacrificing the speed of my proc but what to do, fan controller rosak |
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Dec 16 2006, 09:51 AM
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I'm having a major problem for my Nidec performance 92mm fan...
QUOTE Nidec 92mm Model : TA350DC Dimension : 92*92*38 Speed : 5700 rpm Airflow : 130 cfm Noise level : 53.7 dBa Current rating : 1.8 A Power consumption : 21.6 W It seems that when I plug it in my casing, I can't boot properly. It will not be able to detect certain hardware and it will hang before entering Windows XP. Anyone knows why? Is it because of its extremely high power consumption for a casing fan? |
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Dec 16 2006, 01:01 PM
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did u plug it to ur mobo fan header or direct to molex?
1.8A is too high for thhe mobo fan headers. those headers should have fans NOT exceeding 0.8A else u run a risk of frying ur mobo. if u wanna use the fan. plug direct to molex This post has been edited by mADmAN: Dec 16 2006, 01:02 PM |
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Dec 16 2006, 02:03 PM
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can somebody enlighten my day by explaining to me a lil` clearer, the statement below? i've read through it like... twice, but i still don't understand it. mayb coz my knowledge on this stuff is still in newbie zone.
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Dec 18 2006, 10:54 PM
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QUOTE(mADmAN @ Dec 16 2006, 01:01 PM) did u plug it to ur mobo fan header or direct to molex? Of course, its fitted direct to molex. Haha... I am aware of the limitations of mobo fan headers...1.8A is too high for thhe mobo fan headers. those headers should have fans NOT exceeding 0.8A else u run a risk of frying ur mobo. if u wanna use the fan. plug direct to molex Anyone can solve my Nidec voltage problem? This post has been edited by J-Slade: Dec 18 2006, 10:55 PM |
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Dec 18 2006, 10:58 PM
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QUOTE(J-Slade @ Dec 18 2006, 10:54 PM) Of course, its fitted direct to molex. Haha... I am aware of the limitations of mobo fan headers... i told you not to put the fan to full speed when starting up your PC......did you do that ?Anyone can solve my Nidec voltage problem? i've tested the juice when initially started, and it's more than 2.2A for sure........ maybe you should separate the rails to another source........ |
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Dec 19 2006, 12:18 AM
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QUOTE(AllnGap @ Dec 18 2006, 10:58 PM) i told you not to put the fan to full speed when starting up your PC......did you do that ? Hullo... I am still waiting for my fan from you lah. You send back to me edi anot? i've tested the juice when initially started, and it's more than 2.2A for sure........ maybe you should separate the rails to another source........ How do we seperate the rails to another source? How does that work? |
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Dec 19 2006, 12:37 AM
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newbie here... can anyone recomend me a silent fan ? really really need silent fan... for 80mm no need UV or LED, juz plain 80mm silent fan will do..
My current fan running like a plane turbine...damn noisy and irritating.. |
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Dec 19 2006, 12:39 AM
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QUOTE(ksl279 @ Dec 19 2006, 12:37 AM) newbie here... can anyone recomend me a silent fan ? really really need silent fan... for 80mm no need UV or LED, juz plain 80mm silent fan will do.. Bear in mind, silent fans performance in cooling is just.... so so only. Very rarely you find a good fan with low noise level yet high cfm My current fan running like a plane turbine...damn noisy and irritating..  |
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Dec 19 2006, 12:41 AM
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You can go with Cooler Master case fans, not dead silent or too noisy, has decent airflow with minimal noise.
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Dec 19 2006, 12:45 AM
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QUOTE(sunauto @ Dec 19 2006, 12:41 AM) You can go with Cooler Master case fans, not dead silent or too noisy, has decent airflow with minimal noise. but on 2nd thought, I think its better to have a modded 80cm fan... haha... ask from AllnGap for his modded fans and see if he can include a fan speed controller... that way, you can control the noise level to the max u can tolerate. Yet, have a good speed n high air flow (cfm) |
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Dec 19 2006, 10:23 AM
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open your case
use national table fan speed 1 k was a jk... |
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Dec 24 2006, 02:21 AM
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For some reason, I have grown to be more interested in case fans and be enthusiastic about it. I feel like studying on how the motor works and how does the blade design help in air flow.... anyone got any link to that?
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Dec 24 2006, 03:32 PM
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anyways, anyone here by any chance knows where I can get those silverstone fm121 fans in KL pronto? tried calling all it, but they dont have em in stock.
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Dec 24 2006, 03:38 PM
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QUOTE(vassalle @ Dec 24 2006, 03:32 PM) anyways, anyone here by any chance knows where I can get those silverstone fm121 fans in KL pronto? tried calling all it, but they dont have em in stock. try mypc or c-zone.....but iinm no stock now...or bulk frm daze n zamree7This post has been edited by cablesguy: Dec 24 2006, 03:52 PM |
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Dec 24 2006, 08:41 PM
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QUOTE(vassalle @ Dec 24 2006, 03:32 PM) anyways, anyone here by any chance knows where I can get those silverstone fm121 fans in KL pronto? tried calling all it, but they dont have em in stock. why u interested in the SS FM121? |
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Dec 24 2006, 10:53 PM
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anyone know if can get 140mm fan in kl/lyp, specs similar to the aerocool silver lightning silent white led fans...doesnt hv to be led but pushes around 73cfm n 31dba...thx...forgot to add...along with the adaptor for 120mm to 140mm
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Dec 25 2006, 12:54 AM
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QUOTE(cablesguy @ Dec 24 2006, 10:53 PM) anyone know if can get 140mm fan in kl/lyp, specs similar to the aerocool silver lightning silent white led fans...doesnt hv to be led but pushes around 73cfm n 31dba...thx...forgot to add...along with the adaptor for 120mm to 140mm where r u planning to use it? side case or cooler? really wanna see it |
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Dec 25 2006, 12:43 PM
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QUOTE(E-J@1 @ Dec 25 2006, 12:54 AM) where r u planning to use it? side case or cooler? wanna use it to cool the hdd.... really wanna see it |
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QUOTE(cablesguy @ Dec 24 2006, 10:53 PM) anyone know if can get 140mm fan in kl/lyp, specs similar to the aerocool silver lightning silent white led fans...doesnt hv to be led but pushes around 73cfm n 31dba...thx...forgot to add...along with the adaptor for 120mm to 140mm If you're planning on using an adaptor..then forget it.RPM = Pressure Having a big fan with low rpm (hence noise) is only useful to cover a bigger area that has low restriction. If funnelled through an adaptor.... this means there's more back pressure hence the real airflow will be significantly less. For example..hold a spinning fan and observe closely...the closer you move it to the surface of the table....the noisier it gets...and less air is blown. |
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Dec 25 2006, 06:07 PM
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QUOTE(sniper on the roof @ Dec 25 2006, 02:00 PM) If you're planning on using an adaptor..then forget it. nvr used an adaptor b4 so dont know how loud it add to the sound clutter, also not really sure if im on the right track, anyway the reason im thinking of the 140mm fans is bec its big enuf for the air to go around 2 hdd, n hopefully not as noisy as the 120mm fans with respectable cfm....maybe this pix can illustrate better, the black rectangle is suppose to represent a hdd... lol, the blue line is cold air n the red is heat.RPM = Pressure Having a big fan with low rpm (hence noise) is only useful to cover a bigger area that has low restriction. If funnelled through an adaptor.... this means there's more back pressure hence the real airflow will be significantly less. For example..hold a spinning fan and observe closely...the closer you move it to the surface of the table....the noisier it gets...and less air is blown. 
seems like any moderate cfm fans that i tried has the unbearable backpressure sound...so running out of ideas |
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Dec 25 2006, 06:27 PM
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QUOTE(cablesguy @ Dec 25 2006, 06:07 PM) nvr used an adaptor b4 so dont know how loud it add to the sound clutter, also not really sure if im on the right track, anyway the reason im thinking of the 140mm fans is bec its big enuf for the air to go around 2 hdd, n hopefully not as noisy as the 120mm fans with respectable cfm....maybe this pix can illustrate better, the black rectangle is suppose to represent a hdd... lol, the blue line is cold air n the red is heat. It'll work if you chop the 12cm fan position and enlarge it to fit the 14cm.
seems like any moderate cfm fans that i tried has the unbearable backpressure sound...so running out of ideas Personally, I wouldn't. Reason being is that I'm EXTREMELY picky on fans. 14cm is not really a standard thing so there's not too many choices. ps: Fans marketed as mod items for the DIY market often have inflated specifications. |
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Dec 25 2006, 07:30 PM
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not really into chopping anything so looks like my options are pretty limited....anyway just happened into this pic of someone replacing the 120mm fans with 2 x 80mm...simple but ingenious...wonder whats the sound like....
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Dec 25 2006, 08:05 PM
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anyone tried the Evercool spider fan? 80+cfm at 25db. i wonder whether the spec is true.
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Dec 25 2006, 08:07 PM
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QUOTE(Skylinestar @ Dec 25 2006, 08:05 PM) anyone tried the Evercool spider fan? 80+cfm at 25db. i wonder whether the spec is true. I doubt it... unless maybe its a 120mm version of it. But the only strength of their fans is that it comes with the dust filter... |
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Dec 25 2006, 08:41 PM
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QUOTE(cablesguy @ Dec 25 2006, 07:30 PM) not really into chopping anything so looks like my options are pretty limited....anyway just happened into this pic of someone replacing the 120mm fans with 2 x 80mm...simple but ingenious...wonder whats the sound like.... damn those two casing http://img260.imageshack.us/my.php?image=asdfzy3ul9.jpg anyway, mind telling how u gonna do that? |
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Dec 25 2006, 11:15 PM
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QUOTE(E-J@1 @ Dec 25 2006, 08:41 PM) damn those two casing really dont know....still trying to figure out....somore sniper say the diy fans r mostly questionable which sounds about right....anyway i think if put 2 x 80mm fans will be noisier plus twice the vibration, so maybe not a good idea...maybe try aluminium fans.....shud be less vibration right? anyway, mind telling how u gonna do that? |
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Dec 26 2006, 12:08 AM
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QUOTE(cablesguy @ Dec 25 2006, 11:15 PM) really dont know....still trying to figure out....somore sniper say the diy fans r mostly questionable which sounds about right....anyway i think if put 2 x 80mm fans will be noisier plus twice the vibration, so maybe not a good idea...maybe try aluminium fans.....shud be less vibration right? u wanna reduce the vibration problem!!! just buy the vibration dampener kit by Sunbeam... |
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Dec 26 2006, 12:09 AM
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QUOTE(E-J@1 @ Dec 26 2006, 12:08 AM) u wanna reduce the vibration problem!!! just buy the vibration dampener kit by Sunbeam... Or use those high density sponge... I'm using those.. |
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Dec 26 2006, 12:32 AM
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@ E-J@1
already tried.., also tried plastic pushpins instead of screws...resonance change a little but not much dif...prob is the really silent fans r just that...silent but not much airflow...hdd temp go up 3-5c @ J-Slade high density sponge...mind telling whats that...isit like nexus damptek anyway bombman suggested aluminium fans...might try that... |
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Dec 26 2006, 12:46 AM
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QUOTE(cablesguy @ Dec 26 2006, 12:32 AM) @ J-Slade Sorry for my poor photographyhigh density sponge...mind telling whats that...isit like nexus damptek   They seem to come with 'sticker' so basically its chopped up into lil square bits and you place them around the 4 corners of your fans. Btw, I got them from AllnGap. The King of all fans... *edit* Yes it works very similar to the Nexus DampTek. This post has been edited by J-Slade: Dec 26 2006, 12:50 AM |
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Dec 26 2006, 01:44 AM
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QUOTE(J-Slade @ Dec 26 2006, 12:46 AM) Sorry for my poor photography actually the pix is clear enuf thx They seem to come with 'sticker' so basically its chopped up into lil square bits and you place them around the 4 corners of your fans. Btw, I got them from AllnGap. The King of all fans... *edit* Yes it works very similar to the Nexus DampTek. ...anyway does it compress much if u screw it onto the casing, coz if it doesnt then there shud be gaps in between whihc i think shud further lessen the noise n also the vibration... |
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Dec 26 2006, 09:21 AM
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QUOTE(cablesguy @ Dec 26 2006, 01:44 AM) actually the pix is clear enuf thx I use more ghetto stuff.... those black spongy double sided tape sold in car accessories shop. ...anyway does it compress much if u screw it onto the casing, coz if it doesnt then there shud be gaps in between whihc i think shud further lessen the noise n also the vibration...Multi purpose as well... can use as fan dampeners... if one layer not thick enough...add more. Can also use to reduce HDD vibration. Best of all....they're cheap as dirt. $5 will get you a lifetime supply. Edit: Add pic from google This post has been edited by sniper on the roof: Dec 26 2006, 09:24 AM Attached thumbnail(s) 
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Dec 26 2006, 02:02 PM
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QUOTE(sniper on the roof @ Dec 26 2006, 09:21 AM) I use more ghetto stuff.... those black spongy double sided tape sold in car accessories shop. ehh why didnt i think of that, got a few lying around....actually if can find those in big cut sheets..then maybe can also use as sound n vibration dampener all around Multi purpose as well... can use as fan dampeners... if one layer not thick enough...add more. Can also use to reduce HDD vibration. Best of all....they're cheap as dirt. $5 will get you a lifetime supply. Edit: Add pic from google |
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Dec 26 2006, 02:47 PM
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QUOTE(sniper on the roof @ Dec 26 2006, 09:21 AM) I use more ghetto stuff.... those black spongy double sided tape sold in car accessories shop. Do u just stick the fan on the tape or you somehow screw it ? CAnnot imagine la.. Multi purpose as well... can use as fan dampeners... if one layer not thick enough...add more. Can also use to reduce HDD vibration. Best of all....they're cheap as dirt. $5 will get you a lifetime supply. Edit: Add pic from google |
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Dec 26 2006, 04:14 PM
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ya, thats the ways of making ur casing into a vacumn cleaner.
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Dec 26 2006, 06:40 PM
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QUOTE(vassalle @ Dec 26 2006, 02:47 PM) Do u just stick the fan on the tape or you somehow screw it ? CAnnot imagine la.. think better to screw it thru the double sided tape, u dont want it to come loose in ur casing like i did coz i just just broke a fan blade trying to use pushpins with extra thick paddings/tape...what a waste |
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Dec 26 2006, 09:18 PM
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QUOTE(vassalle @ Dec 26 2006, 02:47 PM) Do u just stick the fan on the tape or you somehow screw it ? CAnnot imagine la.. Malas to take pic so here's some 1337 MS Paint jobIt's no rocket science... ya cut a couple of triangles...stick it on the side that contacts the casing... poke a hole through each screw holes.... add a washer (optional)...kasi screw.... kau tim. Add thickness secukup rasa. Attached thumbnail(s) 
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Dec 26 2006, 09:42 PM
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QUOTE(sniper on the roof @ Dec 26 2006, 09:18 PM) Malas to take pic so here's some 1337 MS Paint job Ahhh.. thanks sniper!It's no rocket science... ya cut a couple of triangles...stick it on the side that contacts the casing... poke a hole through each screw holes.... add a washer (optional)...kasi screw.... kau tim. Add thickness secukup rasa. true, its not rocket science. but without the pics, i would probably taped the whole fan using the double sided tape!  |
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Dec 26 2006, 10:51 PM
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ya thx for the suggestion sniper...actually works like a charm...fan can push a little higher with slightly less sound n vibration, ....think if got longer screws can stick more tape n try run the fans a little higher....but nvr thot of sticking it so nicely....my job real rojak
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Dec 26 2006, 11:00 PM
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QUOTE(Skylinestar @ Dec 25 2006, 08:05 PM) anyone tried the Evercool spider fan? 80+cfm at 25db. i wonder whether the spec is true. QUOTE(J-Slade @ Dec 25 2006, 08:07 PM) I doubt it... unless maybe its a 120mm version of it. But the only strength of their fans is that it comes with the dust filter... Yes that fan shud b pushing about 80CFM. Coz I read the specs n the RPM is about 2500 so it must b pushing 80CFM. Mine does about 1800rpm n 65 cfm. So 2500rpm n 80cfm sounds about right.QUOTE(cablesguy @ Dec 25 2006, 11:15 PM) really dont know....still trying to figure out....somore sniper say the diy fans r mostly questionable which sounds about right....anyway i think if put 2 x 80mm fans will be noisier plus twice the vibration, so maybe not a good idea...maybe try aluminium fans.....shud be less vibration right? Dude, that isn't 2x80mm fans to replace a 120mm fan. That pic shows 2x120mm fans to cool the whole HDD cage. |
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Dec 26 2006, 11:04 PM
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QUOTE(ianho @ Dec 26 2006, 11:00 PM) ... Mine does about 1800rpm n 65 cfm. So 2500rpm n 80cfm sounds about right ... what case fan u using? Vizo? Vantec? CM?... |
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Dec 26 2006, 11:06 PM
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QUOTE(E-J@1 @ Dec 26 2006, 11:04 PM) what case fan u using? Vizo? Vantec? CM?... Vizo UV led 120mm. |
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Dec 26 2006, 11:09 PM
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QUOTE(cablesguy @ Dec 26 2006, 01:44 AM) actually the pix is clear enuf thx @ cablesguy ...anyway does it compress much if u screw it onto the casing, coz if it doesnt then there shud be gaps in between whihc i think shud further lessen the noise n also the vibration...Heyz... actually it doesn't compress even pressed real hard. Thats why its called a high density sponge But I can see you have already got ur sound solution. Great job |
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Dec 26 2006, 11:22 PM
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QUOTE(ianho @ Dec 26 2006, 11:06 PM) Vizo UV led 120mm. wah, same like mine |
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Dec 27 2006, 02:26 PM
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@ ianho,
ya its actually 2 120mm fans...measured can fit 2 120mm's but ngam ngam only...wonder how that guy mount those fans.. @ J-slade yup...snipers suggestion works...but i still wanna push the fans higher so that it has enuf cfm to go around 2 hdd....wihtout the added sound and vibration...think neeed to experiment more |
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Dec 27 2006, 07:39 PM
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QUOTE(cablesguy @ Dec 27 2006, 02:26 PM) ya its actually 2 120mm fans...measured can fit 2 120mm's but ngam ngam only...wonder how that guy mount those fans.. those are 120mm fans!!! i thought it was 80mm fans... how the hell did he do that?  if it fits 2x120mm fans why Lian Li won't make 2x120mm fans  r u sure can fit 2x120mm fans This post has been edited by E-J@1: Dec 27 2006, 07:39 PM |
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Dec 27 2006, 08:18 PM
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QUOTE(E-J@1 @ Dec 27 2006, 07:39 PM) those are 120mm fans!!! i thought it was 80mm fans... how the hell did he do that? That case is a V2000. It's humongous. That's y can fit 2x120mm fans. U shud c a V2000 in real life. U'll pengsan. Like a battleship! if it fits 2x120mm fans why Lian Li won't make 2x120mm fans r u sure can fit 2x120mm fans |
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Dec 27 2006, 10:09 PM
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QUOTE(ianho @ Dec 27 2006, 08:18 PM) That case is a V2000. It's humongous. That's y can fit 2x120mm fans. U shud c a V2000 in real life. U'll pengsan. Like a battleship! bro ianho, u have any idea how to mount 2x120mm fan like in the pic? does the blow hole will do the job? |
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Dec 27 2006, 10:13 PM
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QUOTE(E-J@1 @ Dec 27 2006, 10:09 PM) bro ianho, u have any idea how to mount 2x120mm fan like in the pic? does the blow hole will do the job? actually im also curious.. |
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Dec 28 2006, 10:21 PM
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Dec 29 2006, 12:43 AM
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QUOTE(taxidoor @ Dec 28 2006, 10:21 PM) Such a huge fan.... how is anyone gonna mount that monster? |
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Dec 29 2006, 12:53 AM
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QUOTE(J-Slade @ Dec 29 2006, 12:43 AM) Such a huge fan.... how is anyone gonna mount that monster? imagine mount a few of those on the side panel.....i think cat walk pass also it will suck into the casing |
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Dec 29 2006, 02:04 AM
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haha mayb but i prefer put a big hole fan there then nonit modified the casing so much..
haha btw dun have cap to close the fan.. finger in finger gone haha btw any1 selling this kind of fan i interest to get 1 pm pls |
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Dec 29 2006, 04:52 PM
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QUOTE(taxidoor @ Dec 29 2006, 02:04 AM) haha mayb but i prefer put a big hole fan there then nonit modified the casing so much.. come to think of it ur right...where to get 250mm fan grill...anyway abt buying thy rlhh US store bulk....iinm its in one of the links he provided...sorry cant giv u the link coz the net is like kereta lembu...btw if ur thinking of getting one maybe reconsider, coz if order n its faulty or spoil later....u cant actually pop in to Ly for another 250mm's...just my 2sen haha btw dun have cap to close the fan.. finger in finger gone haha btw any1 selling this kind of fan i interest to get 1 pm pls |
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Dec 29 2006, 05:00 PM
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Greetings Guyz,
I would like to ask you all ... if the PSU Fan is noisy and shaky || what does that means ? Is it going to spoilt soon ? Same goes to the Graphic Card as well ... Regards, Hughie |
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Dec 29 2006, 09:29 PM
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QUOTE(HughieRmX @ Dec 29 2006, 05:00 PM) Greetings Guyz, Why are you asking this is here... You shld try somewhere near the PSU threads I would like to ask you all ... if the PSU Fan is noisy and shaky || what does that means ? Is it going to spoilt soon ? Same goes to the Graphic Card as well ... Regards, Hughie Btw, I wanna ask smtg. Drawing power for casing fan from the motherboard is better (well, we get to monitor the speed) or from the molex is better (considering using 3pin to molex converter)... oh.. assuming the fan is using a 3pin |
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Dec 29 2006, 09:34 PM
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if the fan is less than 0.8A then can plug into mobo.
anything more than better plug directly to PSU. as for which one better generally?? i think direct to PSU... my guess is its lesser load on the mobo for other hardwares connected to it..the PSU should be able to handle the extra load. true or not dunno la...just the way i see things.. *all the fan headers on my mobo are filled up This post has been edited by mADmAN: Dec 29 2006, 09:35 PM |
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Dec 29 2006, 11:50 PM
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QUOTE(mADmAN @ Dec 29 2006, 09:34 PM) if the fan is less than 0.8A then can plug into mobo. I realised one thing. My fan (which has a speed controller).. seems to be getting haywire when i plug into the PSU. It seems that the current goes up and down making the fan slow and fast and slow and fast at random.. anything more than better plug directly to PSU. as for which one better generally?? i think direct to PSU... my guess is its lesser load on the mobo for other hardwares connected to it..the PSU should be able to handle the extra load. true or not dunno la...just the way i see things.. *all the fan headers on my mobo are filled up I plugged it back to my mobo header. |
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Dec 30 2006, 01:23 PM
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QUOTE(J-Slade @ Dec 29 2006, 11:50 PM) I realised one thing. My fan (which has a speed controller).. seems to be getting haywire when i plug into the PSU. It seems that the current goes up and down making the fan slow and fast and slow and fast at random.. could it be the molex connection, i normally plug molex n also push the wires in frm the back to ensure proper contact. I plugged it back to my mobo header. |
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Dec 31 2006, 03:55 AM
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QUOTE(cablesguy @ Dec 30 2006, 01:23 PM) could it be the molex connection, i normally plug molex n also push the wires in frm the back to ensure proper contact. It seems that the current is more stable from the motherboard 3 pin heads. Rather than to connect to molex. |
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Jan 1 2007, 08:19 PM
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not sure but cud be...reason i mentioned abt the molex was bec i noticed its very loose even after clicking it in...n also was reading one of the causes of psu failure along with instability issues was due to coonections not snapped in properly...
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Jan 10 2007, 03:59 PM
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another revival thread....
anyone can recommend me 1 80mm fan, and 1 120mm fan, i am looking for LED + CFM , don't care about noise so much.... since my speakers will be louder...... |
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Jan 10 2007, 04:55 PM
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QUOTE(deric88 @ Jan 10 2007, 03:59 PM) another revival thread.... Vizo Starlet UV Led Fan, the highest CFM UV Led Fan i can found anyone can recommend me 1 80mm fan, and 1 120mm fan, i am looking for LED + CFM , don't care about noise so much.... since my speakers will be louder...... ::Link::80mm x 80mm x 25mm = 36 CFM (34 dBA) 120mm x 120mm x 25mm = 62.7 CFM (31.1 dBA) u can found them at LYP & from Bombman can anyone tell me any other brand that can beat this fan's CFM & of course UV LED only or UV or LED only also can (not those DC Fan) dying to know other brand too |
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Jan 10 2007, 05:19 PM
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QUOTE(E-J@1 @ Jan 10 2007, 04:55 PM) Vizo Starlet UV Led Fan, the highest CFM UV Led Fan i can found http://www.thermaltake.com/dcfans/led/bluesmart.htm ::Link::80mm x 80mm x 25mm = 36 CFM (34 dBA) 120mm x 120mm x 25mm = 62.7 CFM (31.1 dBA) u can found them at LYP & from Bombman can anyone tell me any other brand that can beat this fan's CFM & of course UV LED only or UV or LED only also can (not those DC Fan) dying to know other brand too 93cfm enough? but price too expensive......... how much is the vizo? and can link directly to bombman's thread? 30+dba is bearable rite? can explain more on dc fans? This post has been edited by deric88: Jan 10 2007, 05:22 PM |
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Jan 10 2007, 08:06 PM
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QUOTE(deric88 @ Jan 10 2007, 03:59 PM) another revival thread.... if u dont care abt noise then 120mm i can recommend...thermaltake smaftfan blue led...model a2018....not sure abt 80mm with leds tho'anyone can recommend me 1 80mm fan, and 1 120mm fan, i am looking for LED + CFM , don't care about noise so much.... since my speakers will be louder...... |
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Jan 11 2007, 04:17 PM
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Thermaltake and VIZO will do .....both push equal amount of flow and comes with LED as well but one is normal while another is UV LED...
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Jan 12 2007, 05:58 PM
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QUOTE(Doom @ Jan 11 2007, 04:17 PM) Thermaltake and VIZO will do .....both push equal amount of flow and comes with LED as well but one is normal while another is UV LED... yai yai, i just hate it when some fans got good cfm but only LED (too plain )or UV only (no bling2)so far, only Vantec & Vizo producing UV LED fan  got any other brand? |
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Jan 12 2007, 07:56 PM
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QUOTE(E-J@1 @ Jan 12 2007, 05:58 PM) yai yai, i just hate it when some fans got good cfm but only LED (too plain )or UV only (no bling2) i can't buy uv led fan for my pc, got puple ccfl and the cpu is blue led fan, so uv bright not niceso far, only Vantec & Vizo producing UV LED fan got any other brand? |
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Jan 12 2007, 08:28 PM
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QUOTE(deric88 @ Jan 12 2007, 07:56 PM) i can't buy uv led fan for my pc, got puple ccfl and the cpu is blue led fan, so uv bright not nice then go for UV fan only la, try to look for CoolerMaster's fan, ask moderno bout it |
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Jan 12 2007, 08:53 PM
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QUOTE(E-J@1 @ Jan 12 2007, 08:28 PM) then go for UV fan only la, try to look for CoolerMaster's fan, ask moderno bout it you don't get what i mean, my pc is brigthly lit with ccfl and led cpu fan.... so UV effect in bright condition not good..... besides i order led fan adi from moderno |
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QUOTE(deric88 @ Jan 12 2007, 09:53 PM) you don't get what i mean, my pc is brigthly lit with ccfl and led cpu fan.... so UV effect in bright condition not good..... besides i order led fan adi from moderno yup, the uv effect will not good if the background too bright....which model u bought? i also wana buy a 120mm led performance fan.... any recommendation?? 10q.... |
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Jan 12 2007, 09:04 PM
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QUOTE(deric88 @ Jan 12 2007, 08:53 PM) you don't get what i mean, my pc is brigthly lit with ccfl and led cpu fan.... so UV effect in bright condition not good..... besides i order led fan adi from moderno point taken QUOTE(j@y !!! @ Jan 12 2007, 09:00 PM) yup, the uv effect will not good if the background too bright.... what do u mean by led performance fan? high cfm without considering it's dBA?which model u bought? i also wana buy a 120mm led performance fan.... any recommendation?? 10q.... |
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Jan 12 2007, 09:06 PM
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QUOTE(j@y !!! @ Jan 12 2007, 09:00 PM) yup, the uv effect will not good if the background too bright.... i bought the normal led coolermaster one, if u want performance led, go for thermaltake smart fan.... RM45 which model u bought? i also wana buy a 120mm led performance fan.... any recommendation?? 10q.... but too expensive for mehttp://www.thermaltake.com/dcfans/led/bluesmart.htm This post has been edited by deric88: Jan 12 2007, 09:07 PM |
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Jan 12 2007, 09:34 PM
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QUOTE(deric88 @ Jan 12 2007, 10:06 PM) i bought the normal led coolermaster one, if u want performance led, go for thermaltake smart fan.... RM45 ermmm... that 1 also too expensive for me la... i think coolermaster enough for me adi.... u know the 12cm led fan that u bought is how many rpm ah? not so noisy right? but too expensive for mehttp://www.thermaltake.com/dcfans/led/bluesmart.htm |
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Jan 12 2007, 09:50 PM
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QUOTE(j@y !!! @ Jan 12 2007, 09:34 PM) ermmm... that 1 also too expensive for me la... i think coolermaster enough for me adi.... u know the 12cm led fan that u bought is how many rpm ah? not so noisy right? coolermaster is silent, the cfm normal only |
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Jan 12 2007, 09:55 PM
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QUOTE(j@y !!! @ Jan 12 2007, 09:34 PM) ermmm... that 1 also too expensive for me la... i think coolermaster enough for me adi.... u know the 12cm led fan that u bought is how many rpm ah? not so noisy right? coolermaster silent led fan u meant? 21dbA,1200rpm and 47cfm. |
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Jan 13 2007, 12:03 AM
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QUOTE(basSist @ Jan 12 2007, 09:55 PM) coolermaster silent led fan u meant? 21dbA,1200rpm and 47cfm. how many cm led fans are there? |
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Jan 13 2007, 12:15 AM
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QUOTE(deric88 @ Jan 13 2007, 12:03 AM) how many cm led fans are there? hmm u meant cm silent led fan ah? white,red,blue,purple,green .. 5 guah. |
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Jan 13 2007, 12:27 AM
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QUOTE(j@y !!! @ Jan 12 2007, 09:34 PM) ermmm... that 1 also too expensive for me la... i think coolermaster enough for me adi.... u know the 12cm led fan that u bought is how many rpm ah? not so noisy right? That would be around 1200+- RPM ... and it pushed 45CFM at 22DBA...for me it is the most quiet fan of all other ..... of course the air pushed are just so so only ... but should be enough for general application but not really for CPU cooler ... unless the cooler itself has good dissipation capability .... |
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Jan 13 2007, 12:39 AM
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QUOTE(Doom @ Jan 13 2007, 12:27 AM) That would be around 1200+- RPM ... and it pushed 45CFM at 22DBA... if i am not mistaken you used it on your HR-01? or is tht the exhaust ?for me it is the most quiet fan of all other ..... of course the air pushed are just so so only ... but should be enough for general application but not really for CPU cooler ... unless the cooler itself has good dissipation capability .... |
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Jan 13 2007, 12:49 AM
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not sure abt u guys, but referring to the cm blue leds, for mine the led's brightness seems to follow the speed of the fan, even a small rpm change affects the brightness, not steady at all...n it has a small clicking sound, very faint but noticeable...even the cfm is too low. Definitely not on my recommended list ):
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Jan 13 2007, 12:51 AM
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QUOTE(cablesguy @ Jan 13 2007, 12:49 AM) not sure abt u guys, but referring to the cm blue leds, for mine the led's brightness seems to follow the speed of the fan, even a small rpm change affects the brightness, not steady at all...n it has a small clicking sound, very faint but noticeable...even the cfm is too low. Definitely not on my recommended list ): it's normal, happens to my g-power bl also, it's because speed control by voltage, llower voltage lower brightness |
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Jan 13 2007, 01:06 AM
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guess its not an isolated case then, anyway the thermaltake smartcase blue leds r not too bad, using a few now so no complains, comes with controller, but sure is noisy at high speed.
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Jan 13 2007, 01:15 AM
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QUOTE(cablesguy @ Jan 13 2007, 01:06 AM) guess its not an isolated case then, anyway the thermaltake smartcase blue leds r not too bad, using a few now so no complains, comes with controller, but sure is noisy at high speed. price.........RM45 compare to CM RM25 |
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Jan 13 2007, 01:20 AM
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QUOTE(cablesguy @ Jan 13 2007, 12:49 AM) not sure abt u guys, but referring to the cm blue leds, for mine the led's brightness seems to follow the speed of the fan, even a small rpm change affects the brightness, not steady at all...n it has a small clicking sound, very faint but noticeable...even the cfm is too low. Definitely not on my recommended list ): the leds are powered by the rotation of the fan... don't trust me, try vacuuming ur CM Led Fan, u'll see the led light up if the fan rotates fast enough, tried it once when want to clean my fan |
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Jan 13 2007, 01:46 AM
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QUOTE(deric88 @ Jan 13 2007, 01:15 AM) price.........RM45 compare to CM RM25 if ur looking at how much you will safe at the point of buying then i totally agree with u, but if ur looking at extended value then i think the rm20 dif is negligible...give u a few examples, (tried both fans btw):1) say theres a heatwave n u wanna keep ur case cool, can u do that with the cm? 2) wanna test ur system for stability...say run orthos or prime95, need to run a few hours right? will u dare to leave it unattended with the cm? btw i ran orthos blend at priority 9 for more than 7 hours, my temps increase by less than 10 deg celcius only with the 2 TT case fans running less than half, nvr even bothered to ramp up the cpu fan. Hope i dont sound coming off too strong as thats not my intention, only wanna save u guyz the money u "think" you'll be saving. |
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Jan 13 2007, 11:18 AM
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QUOTE(cablesguy @ Jan 13 2007, 01:46 AM) if ur looking at how much you will safe at the point of buying then i totally agree with u, but if ur looking at extended value then i think the rm20 dif is negligible...give u a few examples, (tried both fans btw): dat's why u need a case that have a good air flow then ur cpu temp won't be influenced by what fan u are u using...1) say theres a heatwave n u wanna keep ur case cool, can u do that with the cm? 2) wanna test ur system for stability...say run orthos or prime95, need to run a few hours right? will u dare to leave it unattended with the cm? btw i ran orthos blend at priority 9 for more than 7 hours, my temps increase by less than 10 deg celcius only with the 2 TT case fans running less than half, nvr even bothered to ramp up the cpu fan. Hope i dont sound coming off too strong as thats not my intention, only wanna save u guyz the money u "think" you'll be saving. then u can use CM fan or whatever fan that is slow cause ur cpu temp won't increase or decrease by it |
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Jan 13 2007, 12:55 PM
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QUOTE(E-J@1 @ Jan 13 2007, 11:18 AM) dat's why u need a case that have a good air flow then ur cpu temp won't be influenced by what fan u are u using... it depends on how hard u push ure system oso. The V Series is 1 of the best air cooling cases around yet I need 4x 65CFM fans to keep the temps inside at sane levels. then u can use CM fan or whatever fan that is slow cause ur cpu temp won't increase or decrease by it If I use the old CM Silents it'll get heatstroke. |
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Jan 13 2007, 01:26 PM
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QUOTE(deric88 @ Jan 13 2007, 12:39 AM) if i am not mistaken you used it on your HR-01? or is tht the exhaust ? use UV version on HR-01 and LED version on exhaust fan.... QUOTE(cablesguy @ Jan 13 2007, 12:49 AM) not sure abt u guys, but referring to the cm blue leds, for mine the led's brightness seems to follow the speed of the fan, even a small rpm change affects the brightness, not steady at all...n it has a small clicking sound, very faint but noticeable...even the cfm is too low. Definitely not on my recommended list ): Yah the light dim and bright according to the speed of the fan .... |
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Jan 13 2007, 05:53 PM
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QUOTE(ianho @ Jan 13 2007, 12:55 PM) it depends on how hard u push ure system oso. The V Series is 1 of the best air cooling cases around yet I need 4x 65CFM fans to keep the temps inside at sane levels. yeah, ur right, it depends whether u OC ur system or not If I use the old CM Silents it'll get heatstroke. i already using Vizo Starlet, thingking want to try CM fan, cause more silence, but afraid if bought it & try it, the temp increase just be a waste of money  |
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Jan 13 2007, 06:08 PM
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QUOTE(E-J@1 @ Jan 13 2007, 05:53 PM) yeah, ur right, it depends whether u OC ur system or not What is u spec and how much u OC ur system i already using Vizo Starlet, thingking want to try CM fan, cause more silence, but afraid if bought it & try it, the temp increase just be a waste of money ... maybe i can provide a lucky guess since i am using all CM silent fans inside a GT-7 (Lian Li OEM-007).... |
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Jan 14 2007, 08:38 AM
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so, bassically, wht is the best fans for our case??i'm using 3x80mm CM uv and 1xsunon fan...the temp in my case is quite ok for me,even with my presscott which produced a lot of heat..
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Jan 14 2007, 09:30 AM
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Anyone have idea what fan controller to use for high performance fan?
Problem that encounter, 1. When full blast it is find with the speed and also 100% fine condition 2. When fan controller are installed, i can control the fan speed, (This is normal right) 3. I lower down the fan speed to minimum, then the fan start to slow down, AND it will come to a stop, 4. So in this case i think the 'controller' are making this problem right? 5. Any solutions? Or any after market controller to solve this? PS: Not because of PSU not enough power or weak, This post has been edited by blackshirt: Jan 14 2007, 09:30 AM |
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QUOTE(blackshirt @ Jan 14 2007, 09:30 AM) Anyone have idea what fan controller to use for high performance fan? The fan controllers can only control normal fans. If u use those hi amperage hi speed fans, the controller cant handle it.Problem that encounter, 1. When full blast it is find with the speed and also 100% fine condition 2. When fan controller are installed, i can control the fan speed, (This is normal right) 3. I lower down the fan speed to minimum, then the fan start to slow down, AND it will come to a stop, 4. So in this case i think the 'controller' are making this problem right? 5. Any solutions? Or any after market controller to solve this? PS: Not because of PSU not enough power or weak, |
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Jan 14 2007, 01:14 PM
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@blackshirt
what fan u trying to control??? what brand and model and what specs? |
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Jan 14 2007, 02:20 PM
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QUOTE(blackshirt @ Jan 14 2007, 09:30 AM) Anyone have idea what fan controller to use for high performance fan? curious what fan n controlller u using? i think ur fan requires a minimum voltage to run, but anyway it sounds quite dangerous as u or someone might accidentally turn off the fanProblem that encounter, 1. When full blast it is find with the speed and also 100% fine condition 2. When fan controller are installed, i can control the fan speed, (This is normal right) 3. I lower down the fan speed to minimum, then the fan start to slow down, AND it will come to a stop, 4. So in this case i think the 'controller' are making this problem right? 5. Any solutions? Or any after market controller to solve this? PS: Not because of PSU not enough power or weak, |
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Jan 14 2007, 02:28 PM
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The fan is 0.65Amp, controller unknown, campalang i think?
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Jan 14 2007, 02:40 PM
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wow...definitely a high powered fan....maybe get one of the fan experts here to build u a fan controller or build your own...http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/312003
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Jan 14 2007, 11:01 PM
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Hi guys,
I have been facing this problem which is quite similar. I am using E6600|Intel DG965OT | cooler master heatsink CPU Cooler (DI5-9JD3A-P9) 4 pin - dinasaur heatsink I got this heatsink from Startec. At that time, I am really new to cooling. Problem : when cpu activity high/benchmarking, the fan noise is like vacuum cleaner bcos turning at almost 4000 rpm. (the intel bios that control the fan speed is really not user friendly, u cant set the fan speed lower or whatever speed u wan. all those using intel motherboard will know this problem. software like speedfan cant work with intel motherboard) This is the link of my cpu cooler loh (really outdated. using presscot for conroe, isnt i noob ): - http://www.coolermaster.com/index.php?LT=e...9&other_title=0 1. I plan to buy a fan controller to lower max speed to say 2500 rpm. Can I just buy any fan controller. will it work. what need to check on fan controller. I am using it for HTPC. silence is everything This post has been edited by ccschua: Jan 14 2007, 11:12 PM |
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Jan 14 2007, 11:03 PM
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QUOTE(ccschua @ Jan 14 2007, 11:01 PM) Hi guys, Iz it ur cooler got wire & connect to the mb ?I have been facing this problem which is quite similar. I am using E6600|Intel DG965OT | cooler master heatsink CPU Cooler (DI5-9JD3A-P9) 4 pin - dinasaur heatsink I got this heatsink from Startec. At that time, I am really new to cooling. Problem : when cpu activity high/benchmarking, the fan noise is like vacuum cleaner bcos turning at almost 4000 rpm. (the intel bios that control the fan speed is really not user friendly, u cant set the fan speed lower or whatever speed u wan. all those using intel motherboard will know this problem. software like speedfan cant work with intel motherboard) This is the link of my cpu cooler loh (really outdated. using presscot for conroe, isnt i noob ): - http://www.coolermaster.com/index.php?LT=e...9&other_title=0 I try to use fan controller to adjust max speed. Can I just buy any fan controller. will it work. what need to check on fan controller. I am using it for HTPC. silence is everything |
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Jan 14 2007, 11:22 PM
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I think the cooler fan has got wire that connect to the motherboard fan supply via 4 pin with PWM function. I just dunno my fan how many input amp... just assume can .. assume = ass ?? and ???
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Jan 15 2007, 12:19 AM
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frm what i gather abt fan controllers....u need to look out for the amp per channel n also the total/combined amps for all channels, so better not "ass"ume
or the controller will not be able to take itThis post has been edited by cablesguy: Jan 15 2007, 12:20 AM |
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Jan 15 2007, 03:40 AM
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well... i'm quite new to this thread
bcuz of my 2 years+ unknown sleeve 12cm fan is about dying, i have to get a brand new 1 to replace it. as mentioned early(take sometime to read from the beginning ), most of the ppl targeting the silverstone fm122 that come with extra fan controller. i did search for the fm122 in LYP yesterday but fail to get in hand(temporary out of stock?)so, i need to go for my second choice that u ppl's choice = Vizo! but it seem this Vizo only available for the Wind Storm model as in LYP. the other range like Vizo Muffle MF12025 12cm can't be found 2.... i have no idea wat should i choose while i'm keep looking shop by shop to get a decent 12cm fan! finally, when i stop at allIT....i found a Vantec Stealth 12cm fan that quite similar to silverstone fm122 but lack in 9 fan blades design & fan controller  & it cost rm55 too....but it stated "Lifetime Warranty" i'm not sure this is worth to buy or not.....but the thing is, i'm here in LYP today for a purpose....i really need to get something back & install a brand new 12cm fan, there is no turning back for nth well, it end up with the Vantec Stealth SF12025L. currently the fan quite silent & manage to bring down few C'(5'C). i'm quite satisfied with this SF12025L.>>>Vantec Cooling<<< |
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Jan 15 2007, 12:09 PM
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yah indeed it is a fair product ... i though of getting it as well after no luck with the silverstone fan .... but due to my own concern of the price... end up with two cooler master UV fan instead of one vantec fan ....
anyway how it feel with the built quality ?? steady ?? |
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Jan 15 2007, 01:42 PM
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erm..it thought vantec didn't have high end fans.as i use vantec Uv fans which didn't satisfy me before as its produce loud sound in high speed mode,very annoying...
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Jan 15 2007, 02:03 PM
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Anyone hv any idea if the Vizo starlet uv led fan has rpm control, coz at 63cfm its not bad, n at rm35 its quite ok
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Hi all,
I'm planning to change the fan for my TR XP-120 since my fan is making hell lots of noise (finally going to die out I supposed... thermaltake led 12cm fan or something..) Any recommendation? I would like something that's has good noise/performance ratio. |
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Jan 15 2007, 02:26 PM
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QUOTE(rainingzero @ Jan 15 2007, 01:42 PM) erm..it thought vantec didn't have high end fans.as i use vantec Uv fans which didn't satisfy me before as its produce loud sound in high speed mode,very annoying... u must have been using either the 80mm or 92mm fan... the 120mm is actually quite alrightQUOTE(cablesguy @ Jan 15 2007, 02:03 PM) Anyone hv any idea if the Vizo starlet uv led fan has rpm control, coz at 63cfm its not bad, n at rm35 its quite ok no hardware RPM control...but there is RPM monitoring. u can control the RPM thru software. depending on whether or not ur software can supportQUOTE(celciuz @ Jan 15 2007, 02:10 PM) Hi all, the Vizo 120mm UV LED fans currently has the best ratio in my book.I'm planning to change the fan for my TR XP-120 since my fan is making hell lots of noise (finally going to die out I supposed... thermaltake led 12cm fan or something..) Any recommendation? I would like something that's has good noise/performance ratio. |
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Jan 15 2007, 02:40 PM
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How much do Vizo 120mm UV LED cost? Is it available in the sales section? Since I don't stay anywhere near lowyat for me to get stuffs from there.. What's the specs like? Thanks in advance.
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Jan 15 2007, 02:49 PM
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if u read the post above urs, u would have seen the price was already stated
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Jan 15 2007, 03:01 PM
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QUOTE(mADmAN @ Jan 15 2007, 02:26 PM) u must have been using either the 80mm or 92mm fan... the 120mm is actually quite alright thx..edited as misread the answer...anyway would be ideal if can get a fan running at 60-65cfm running at below 28dBa, can just leave it running full blast.no hardware RPM control...but there is RPM monitoring. u can control the RPM thru software. depending on whether or not ur software can support the Vizo 120mm UV LED fans currently has the best ratio in my book. This post has been edited by cablesguy: Jan 15 2007, 04:30 PM |
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Jan 15 2007, 04:35 PM
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QUOTE(celciuz @ Jan 15 2007, 02:40 PM) How much do Vizo 120mm UV LED cost? Is it available in the sales section? Since I don't stay anywhere near lowyat for me to get stuffs from there.. What's the specs like? Thanks in advance. bombman is selling them @ Rm40 each |
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Jan 15 2007, 05:27 PM
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QUOTE(cablesguy @ Jan 15 2007, 03:01 PM) thx..edited as misread the answer...anyway would be ideal if can get a fan running at 60-65cfm running at below 28dBa, can just leave it running full blast. Hmm... I don't think there is any Fan that have this spec, high CFM & low dBa.The spec near this requirement will be Panaflo. Try checkout the bulk thread: http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=345848 However found Thermaltake Silent Cat 92mm has 52.24 CFM @ 21 dBa, but I think it cheats. It is actually not as quiet as 21 dBa (from other forum users). |
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Jan 15 2007, 06:00 PM
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QUOTE(YiQi @ Jan 15 2007, 05:27 PM) Hmm... I don't think there is any Fan that have this spec, high CFM & low dBa. you're right, theres none or maybe i havent found it yet lol, btw i tried the panaflo medium bx fan whihc is 38mm thick...it was a little too loud for me n def more vibration, but some users here found it ok.The spec near this requirement will be Panaflo. Try checkout the bulk thread: http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=345848 However found Thermaltake Silent Cat 92mm has 52.24 CFM @ 21 dBa, but I think it cheats. It is actually not as quiet as 21 dBa (from other forum users). |
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Jan 15 2007, 11:03 PM
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QUOTE(Doom @ Jan 15 2007, 12:09 PM) yah indeed it is a fair product ... i though of getting it as well after no luck with the silverstone fan .... but due to my own concern of the price... end up with two cooler master UV fan instead of one vantec fan .... wat can i say? it work like an ordinary 12cm fan but it really perform as good as it is....anyway how it feel with the built quality ?? steady ?? |
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Jan 18 2007, 09:05 AM
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can anybody help me out... i saw the installation movie in zalman there.
i am using socket 939. and i want to use this fan Zalman Fatal1ty FS-C77. but when i saw that there is a piece of stuff put under the cpu, does that mean i need to pluck out my mobo and install that piece of plastic or metal? thanks. my question is do i need to unplug my mobo? thanks |
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Jan 20 2007, 09:36 PM
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noob here, want to ask how to turn on fans without turning on the computer. thank you for your help. |
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Jan 20 2007, 09:38 PM
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Erm... use ur PSU plug to the fans and walah???
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Jan 20 2007, 09:39 PM
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lol? y u want to do that?
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Jan 20 2007, 09:40 PM
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QUOTE(yuka @ Jan 20 2007, 09:39 PM) lol? y u want to do that? I think he wanna test the fans so that no nid to on the PC.. |
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Jan 20 2007, 09:43 PM
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i think depends on mobo.
my old mobo got this function.. power self test.. when this funtion enabled.. to turn on the pc, need me to press power..then, reset.. if just power button, only the fan and all the light will ignite... except the mobo bios and os.. heheee old mobo.. still using it.. if u just want to test the fans and all.. why dont unplug the hdd.. |
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Jan 20 2007, 09:44 PM
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oh.... ok..... stupid me..... XD
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Jan 20 2007, 09:46 PM
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see the 20-pin (or 24-pin) power connector? the huge ass power cable from your PSU?
found it? good. then locate one green cable and one black one insert a wire or whatever thing to connect them two wires. voila~ |
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Jan 20 2007, 10:02 PM
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skip all the trouble pulling out cables etc etc, once you on pc, press DEL to jump into BIOS.. then test all the fans you want, when want off just press power button
if you are just running the psu and the fan with no mobo, then use lucifah method This post has been edited by deric88: Jan 20 2007, 10:04 PM |
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Jan 20 2007, 10:39 PM
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QUOTE(lucifah @ Jan 20 2007, 09:46 PM) see the 20-pin (or 24-pin) power connector? the huge ass power cable from your PSU? Huh? you mean connect the 2 power cables on the ATX thingy on the PSU together? wont that short the PSU? I don't want to kill my power supply, want to be absolutely sure before i do it. found it? good. then locate one green cable and one black one insert a wire or whatever thing to connect them two wires. voila~ This post has been edited by leezhunjin: Jan 20 2007, 11:28 PM |
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Jan 21 2007, 01:22 AM
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QUOTE(leezhunjin @ Jan 20 2007, 10:39 PM) Huh? you mean connect the 2 power cables on the ATX thingy on the PSU together? wont that short the PSU? I don't want to kill my power supply, want to be absolutely sure before i do it. provided u connect the green ( theres only 1 ) and any of the black wires ur PSU shouldnt be fried. use some electrical tape or any tape to secure and isolate it. thats the method used to start a PSU without using a motherboard. of course when connecting the 2 cables together ensure that the PSU is unplugged otherwise u just might end up frying urself.personally....i think the method below by deric88 would be the easiest QUOTE(deric88 @ Jan 20 2007, 10:02 PM) skip all the trouble pulling out cables etc etc, once you on pc, press DEL to jump into BIOS.. then test all the fans you want, when want off just press power button if you are just running the psu and the fan with no mobo, then use lucifah method |
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Jan 21 2007, 11:59 AM
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Haiyaaaaaa u fellas all so high tech until forgot the very basics pulak. He wanna test a simple fan oni lar. N he scared to short the PSU.
TS, all u need to do is go tap ure fan wires onto the car battery. So simple, nonid to short anything. |
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Jan 21 2007, 12:19 PM
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QUOTE(ianho @ Jan 21 2007, 11:59 AM) Haiyaaaaaa u fellas all so high tech until forgot the very basics pulak. He wanna test a simple fan oni lar. N he scared to short the PSU. what if the fan has a pin connector? haha TS, all u need to do is go tap ure fan wires onto the car battery. So simple, nonid to short anything. the best way is unplug all the drive and power on the system..sure can test. |
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Jan 21 2007, 12:25 PM
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QUOTE(ianho @ Jan 21 2007, 11:59 AM) Haiyaaaaaa u fellas all so high tech until forgot the very basics pulak. He wanna test a simple fan oni lar. N he scared to short the PSU. finally, the uncle hath spoken... just one question: isn't it easier to use one of the methods rather than lugging a 15kg car battery (assuming he has a spare batt that is working) into his bedroom?TS, all u need to do is go tap ure fan wires onto the car battery. So simple, nonid to short anything. good idea though. |
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Jan 21 2007, 12:34 PM
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QUOTE(Hungry_Wolf @ Jan 21 2007, 12:19 PM) what if the fan has a pin connector? haha Just use 1 black wire n 1 red wire to tap into the fan plug oni. The thing is that he doesn't wanna power up his PC to test the fans. the best way is unplug all the drive and power on the system..sure can test. QUOTE(lucifah @ Jan 21 2007, 12:25 PM) finally, the uncle hath spoken... just one question: isn't it easier to use one of the methods rather than lugging a 15kg car battery (assuming he has a spare batt that is working) into his bedroom? good idea though. Just go to the garage, pop open the car bonnet n tap the wires onto the battery terminals oni. Wat for carry the batt into the hse? |
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Jan 21 2007, 12:41 PM
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just make sure you've pay your TNB bills... and sure you can turn on any of your fans...
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Jan 21 2007, 01:44 PM
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lolz... thanks everyone!! i think i will use lucifahs method, because my mom is gonna question me A LOT if she sees me opening car bonnet to test a fan. normally shop display also use this method? I mean lucifahs method.
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Jan 22 2007, 09:43 AM
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get a DC power supply...easier....
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Jan 22 2007, 07:13 PM
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use a few of AA alkaline batteries...make sure it is sufficient volatage to power up the fan..huhu..noob answer..
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Jan 22 2007, 07:25 PM
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Easiest method
 granted its only 9v, but it'll run most of your fans |
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Jan 22 2007, 08:10 PM
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QUOTE(Kclee2002 @ Jan 22 2007, 07:25 PM) Easiest method wah,so simple.but one thing,can we connect the wires to the battery without using the cap(top of the battery)???granted its only 9v, but it'll run most of your fans |
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Jan 22 2007, 08:11 PM
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QUOTE(id86 @ Jan 22 2007, 08:10 PM) wah,so simple.but one thing,can we connect the wires to the battery without using the cap(top of the battery)??? if it is just wires, no problem |
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Jan 22 2007, 08:23 PM
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so if that case,can use 6 battery AA and connect in series method.we will get 9V too right.
i should try once even though i dont like to damage my molex connector |
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Jan 22 2007, 08:31 PM
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QUOTE(id86 @ Jan 22 2007, 08:10 PM) wah,so simple.but one thing,can we connect the wires to the battery without using the cap(top of the battery)??? sure...... but need to press/stick it thereit won't run 12v fan in full speed, 12v use car battery like stated earlier |
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Jan 22 2007, 08:40 PM
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QUOTE(deric88 @ Jan 22 2007, 08:31 PM) sure...... but need to press/stick it there i think there is a battery which support 12V.the huge one like constuction brick.it won't run 12v fan in full speed, 12v use car battery like stated earlier |
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Jan 22 2007, 08:50 PM
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im sure you are not going to spend rm1xx on a car battery + its heavy...
you can opt to either: 1. connect battery in series 2. use to 9v batteries and put a resistor on one so that output will be +- 12v 3. find these type of battery.(image below)  |
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Jan 22 2007, 09:36 PM
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Jan 23 2007, 02:03 AM
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that's all is my idea actually...kihkih..
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Jan 23 2007, 07:00 PM
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get this thing.
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Jan 24 2007, 11:30 AM
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QUOTE(Skylinestar @ Jan 23 2007, 07:00 PM) get this thing. may i know what is it for? |
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Jan 24 2007, 03:40 PM
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that thing comes with external HDD connector sold by vcool.
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Jan 26 2007, 10:00 PM
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newbie here, w3aaaah you guys, play2 a lot with your pc. anybobd got kaputted pc due to all the modding? just asking. good for my morale cos scared pc no wake up after touch2!!!!!!
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Jan 26 2007, 11:10 PM
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we have to be brave to try or explore new thing.and must be very carefull and responsible to everything we do.everything have a risk.
u better try mod once.dont be scared.your thing will not damaged or not wake up after u only touch it.safety first |
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Jan 27 2007, 11:16 PM
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done sleeved my PSU cable... did it without other person help, just refer to thread in PSU SLEEVING guide.. be brave like id86 said or u'll get nothing without trying..
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Feb 3 2007, 10:53 AM
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anybody want this really small fan?
  http://www.frostytech.com/permalink.cfm?NewsID=56094 http://www.sunon.com.tw/mmfan/mmfan_e.htm#1 |
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Feb 3 2007, 11:11 AM
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lol blow where ? my breath also 10x more CFM then the fan
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Feb 3 2007, 12:12 PM
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QUOTE(PowerSlide @ Feb 3 2007, 10:53 AM) anybody want this really small fan? this is from SUNON........i was shocked when i saw the size of that thing........but the cfm it can push http://www.frostytech.com/permalink.cfm?NewsID=56094 http://www.sunon.com.tw/mmfan/mmfan_e.htm#1 |
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Feb 3 2007, 02:25 PM
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allngap tailo,
find some laa..wana get for collection |
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Feb 4 2007, 01:47 AM
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I am wondering if I should buy intake and exhaust fan for this casing of my AMD rig ( full specs on siggy ) I opened up the casing and looked at the back, it looks weird, wondered if a fan will fit there.
 Do you think the fans can fit at the back? Also, what suggestions do you guys have for the brand of fans, any features I should consider? And how expensive is one which has LED? Thanks |
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Feb 4 2007, 02:01 AM
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value for money n not too noisy, respectable cfm, vizo uv led fan...hope i got the name rite
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Can you take another photo from the back? seem that you casing have no option for rear fan...
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Feb 4 2007, 02:38 AM
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QUOTE(karhoe @ Feb 4 2007, 01:47 AM) I am wondering if I should buy intake and exhaust fan for this casing of my AMD rig ( full specs on siggy ) I opened up the casing and looked at the back, it looks weird, wondered if a fan will fit there. i saw it b4...inside the enlight case...bt it included the case fan bracket...the design is quite weird » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Do you think the fans can fit at the back? Also, what suggestions do you guys have for the brand of fans, any features I should consider? And how expensive is one which has LED? Thanks |
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Feb 12 2007, 01:22 AM
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Wooooooooo. I just tried powering up my new Silverstone fans. Silverstone Silentmatic 120mm fans. They haf a special 11 blade design. Suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuper quiet yet flows lotsa air. U fellas who want silent fans really shud check it out.
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Feb 12 2007, 02:21 AM
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QUOTE(ianho @ Feb 12 2007, 01:22 AM) Wooooooooo. I just tried powering up my new Silverstone fans. Silverstone Silentmatic 120mm fans. They haf a special 11 blade design. Suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuper quiet yet flows lotsa air. U fellas who want silent fans really shud check it out. can you post some pic and review bout it? |
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Feb 12 2007, 06:32 PM
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silentmatic? cant find it on the SS site, any links or mind putting a pix, theres some for sale on ebay but no specs or pix.
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Feb 13 2007, 12:18 AM
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yah ..is it the same as those that are selling at ALL IT there ??
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Feb 13 2007, 01:35 AM
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QUOTE(ianho @ Feb 12 2007, 01:22 AM) Wooooooooo. I just tried powering up my new Silverstone fans. Silverstone Silentmatic 120mm fans. They haf a special 11 blade design. Suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuper quiet yet flows lotsa air. U fellas who want silent fans really shud check it out. Those fans are just fantastics with gd cfm...Sadly no bling bling..if not my whole case will be full of silverstones fans.. |
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Feb 13 2007, 01:58 AM
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is it similar in specs to the vizo uv led fan, heres the Vizo specs:
120mm Fan Size : 120x120x25 mm Rated Voltage: 12 V Rated Current : 0.35 A Fan Speed : 1800 RPM Air Flow: 62.7 CFM Noise: 31.1 dBA Weight : 120 gm Bearing Type : Sleeve coz im looking for something similar but no bling bling |
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Feb 13 2007, 02:05 AM
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Allngap, can find those super tiny sunon fans posted by powerslide?
The blowers look interesting to be mounted on graphic ram chips... Wonder how much would those cuties cost... |
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Feb 13 2007, 06:19 AM
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Sry guys, I've been really bz. Havent had time to really check out the fans except to test them for flow n sound. These Silentmatics I tried r the 1's that come with the TJ07. Here's the model number of the fan.
Silentmatic SFA1225LU-12A 0.07A. |
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Feb 13 2007, 07:18 AM
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QUOTE(ianho @ Feb 13 2007, 06:19 AM) Sry guys, I've been really bz. Havent had time to really check out the fans except to test them for flow n sound. These Silentmatics I tried r the 1's that come with the TJ07. Here's the model number of the fan. i had search it through internet but cannot find that model Silentmatic SFA1225LU-12A 0.07A. ...anyone have any link?? |
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Feb 14 2007, 12:00 AM
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hmmm ...have anyone tried the silent fan sold at ALLIT Hypermall there ??
it stated silent but don't know how silent it is .... |
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Feb 14 2007, 09:38 PM
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i just bought a vizo starlet 80mm..uv led..looks so nice..and good cfm..but abit noisylar..especially compared to the coolermaster silent leds...
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Feb 14 2007, 09:46 PM
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QUOTE(treason @ Feb 14 2007, 09:38 PM) i just bought a vizo starlet 80mm..uv led..looks so nice..and good cfm..but abit noisylar..especially compared to the coolermaster silent leds... vizo had good cfm but bit noisy.i had stop using vizo fan since my house got so bingit especially during late night |
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Feb 14 2007, 10:00 PM
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yah .. VIZO indeed is not quiet when u compare to CM ... but the airflow also strong enough ......
can always use speed controller to reduce the airflow so as the noise ... |
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Feb 15 2007, 01:27 AM
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yeah..im using speedfan to slow it down now..but then the led becomes quite dimlar haha... are there any other fans that look like that but is not as noisy?
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Feb 15 2007, 05:59 AM
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QUOTE(id86 @ Feb 14 2007, 09:46 PM) vizo had good cfm but bit noisy.i had stop using vizo fan since my house got so bingit especially during late night yeah.. vizo got me thinkin of my vacuum cleaner! so loud! |
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haha, should have read into this thread before i buy my vizo windstorm. saw it rm55 at all it. thought powerful and forget about da noise part. bring back home and install. HOLY SHIT!!! my rig is producing factory sound. however da temp drop by 4C inside the rig.
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Feb 15 2007, 09:57 AM
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QUOTE(kidmad @ Feb 15 2007, 08:25 AM) haha, should have read into this thread before i buy my vizo windstorm. saw it rm55 at all it. thought powerful and forget about da noise part. bring back home and install. HOLY SHIT!!! my rig is producing factory sound. however da temp drop by 4C inside the rig. hahaha. My case got 2 12cm fan. Making factory sound also. The cpu cooler fan running at full speed even louder. Always thinking of replacing it but when come to LYP don't know what to buy also. So many type. |
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Feb 15 2007, 10:17 AM
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QUOTE(kidmad @ Feb 15 2007, 08:25 AM) haha, should have read into this thread before i buy my vizo windstorm. saw it rm55 at all it. thought powerful and forget about da noise part. bring back home and install. HOLY SHIT!!! my rig is producing factory sound. however da temp drop by 4C inside the rig. like my windstorm...that fan produce high air flow.like want to terbang i got only drop a bit like only 1C.how yours more than me??? |
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Feb 15 2007, 01:16 PM
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oh yeah...i stood at all IT with the fan blowing at me..i thought i was at the beach man!
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Feb 15 2007, 01:54 PM
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QUOTE(id86 @ Feb 15 2007, 10:17 AM) like my windstorm...that fan produce high air flow.like want to terbang i did not mount it into the intake exhaust hole. instead i place 1 normal 80mm fan on da intake blowhole then nt far away from it, i place da windstorm with double sided tape and stick it on da aluminium flr of my chasis. btw im using da microfly SFF so da fan directly blow to my ram + half of my mobo part + cpu + heatsink. before dis i directly place da windstorm at the intake hole, its dam noisy and its nt sucking much air becoz of my microfly. the placement rite now gives a very good circulation of air flow in my case i guess. from 40C till 34 - 35 C rite now. its very good for me. i got only drop a bit like only 1C.how yours more than me??? p.s: u have to look at the design of microfly chasis, behind of the case near the mobo, therez those small holes, i guess da fan is strong enuff to blow hot airz out from dat hole. hahaha QUOTE(treason @ Feb 15 2007, 01:16 PM) oh yeah...i stood at all IT with the fan blowing at me..i thought i was at the beach man! memang i did da same thg la. and guess wat im da 1 who kena poison and bring da fan back home. in all it mayb its becoz of those music and bla bla sounds datz y da fan looks not dat noisy. anyway after installing it, ull nvr feel lonely anymore .This post has been edited by kidmad: Feb 15 2007, 01:56 PM |
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wahhahahahahah.....no u guys know the POWAAAAAHHH of the darkside!!! wakkakakaka
i used to run 1x80mm Delta FFB and 1x120mm Delta FFB in my case...even with my room door closed i can still hear my PC from downstairs...hehehhehe. wat i did was i made a 12v/5v switch to help silence the fan when i need to sleep.... but when im fully awake...so are the fans  out of curiosity...have u guys tried running the windstorm on 5v? does it work? for FFBs some do but most wont. my 80mm did...but the motor would be clicking away..... as for 120mm... i have 4 120mm FFBs and only 1 will work on 5v. but on 7v...they ALL work. edit by mod: sales content deleted.  This post has been edited by ianho: Feb 15 2007, 06:25 PM |
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I duno whether my post is related to this thread or not, since it says "fans thread" so I think is related la, ahhahah...
The 1st one is my selfmodded so called fan card, copy the idea from Ventec Fan Card de... Then 2nd one is the "proc heatsink" for a sound card, only Audigy value la, wahhaha, coz bought the Coolermaster Ice Pro wrongly, no where to throw, then just "mod" it onto the card lo.. WHhaha! This post has been edited by matcatzz: Feb 15 2007, 03:58 PM Attached thumbnail(s) 
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QUOTE(matcatzz @ Feb 15 2007, 03:37 PM) I duno whether my post is related to this thread or not, since it says "fans thread" so I think is related la, ahhahah... The 1st one is my selfmodded so called fan card, copy the idea from Ventec Fan Card de... Then 2nd one is the "proc heatsink" for a sound card, only Audigy value la, wahhaha, coz bought the Coolermaster Ice Pro wrongly, no where to throw, then just "mod" it onto the card lo.. WHhaha! even sound card also have HSF on it... btw...nice mod there for both the fan card and the sound card HSF... |
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Feb 15 2007, 05:51 PM
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agreed....the fan card is a real sick piece of work
very niceany advantage of using the HSF on the soundcard? i mean especially since ur card dont NEED it got any difference ah??? thinking of adding a heatsink to my A2ZS and Audigy 4 oso |
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Feb 15 2007, 06:05 PM
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QUOTE(mADmAN @ Feb 15 2007, 05:51 PM) agreed....the fan card is a real sick piece of work Well, I know it doesnt really help much, but, since the Ice Pro has blue LED, it matches my rig theme - blue, whe~ Nothing just looks nicer la, ahhaha anyway thanx mate~ very niceany advantage of using the HSF on the soundcard? i mean especially since ur card dont NEED it got any difference ah??? thinking of adding a heatsink to my A2ZS and Audigy 4 oso |
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Feb 15 2007, 06:09 PM
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QUOTE(matcatzz @ Feb 15 2007, 06:05 PM) Well, I know it doesnt really help much, but, since the Ice Pro has blue LED, it matches my rig theme - blue, whe~ Nothing just looks nicer la, ahhaha anyway thanx mate~ how you attach the metal to the acrylic slot?looks tough there |
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Feb 15 2007, 06:13 PM
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QUOTE(id86 @ Feb 15 2007, 06:09 PM) how you attach the metal to the acrylic slot?looks tough there Hmmm...For the sound card HSD, 1st time I tried the normal double sided tape, cant work, it droped... 2nd time I tried the normal double sided tape with cooling gel, cant work still, drop after heat up...  3rd and last time I tried, I went to car accessory shop, bought the bouble sided tape which they used to tape the door visor, yea!! and also added cooling gel, then it works!! lolz!! For the fan card, I just drilled 2 holes and screwed it loo... This post has been edited by matcatzz: Feb 15 2007, 06:17 PM |
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Feb 15 2007, 06:24 PM
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QUOTE(matcatzz @ Feb 15 2007, 06:13 PM) Hmmm... only two screws?so though For the sound card HSD, 1st time I tried the normal double sided tape, cant work, it droped... 2nd time I tried the normal double sided tape with cooling gel, cant work still, drop after heat up... 3rd and last time I tried, I went to car accessory shop, bought the bouble sided tape which they used to tape the door visor, yea!! and also added cooling gel, then it works!! lolz!! For the fan card, I just drilled 2 holes and screwed it loo... maybe can try this mod also.clean and tidy.i like it maybe you can start business to mod the fan cards |
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Feb 15 2007, 06:36 PM
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QUOTE(id86 @ Feb 15 2007, 06:24 PM) only two screws?so though Yo bro, seriously Ive thought about it b4, but... Hehe, no ler, no model, no raputation, no stock also, hehe... maybe can try this mod also.clean and tidy.i like it maybe you can start business to mod the fan cards |
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Feb 15 2007, 06:53 PM
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QUOTE(matcatzz @ Feb 15 2007, 06:36 PM) Yo bro, seriously Ive thought about it b4, but... Hehe, no ler, no model, no raputation, no stock also, hehe... no patent also since you copy the idea from Vantec fan but you had made a good job.keep it up |
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QUOTE(mADmAN @ Feb 15 2007, 02:55 PM) wahhahahahahah.....no u guys know the POWAAAAAHHH of the darkside!!! wakkakakaka madman mind teaching me hw u make a 12v/5v switch. aint no engineering student. lol. the other alternative is to get the fan controller from vcool later on. else i gonna face dis factory machine for a long long time.i used to run 1x80mm Delta FFB and 1x120mm Delta FFB in my case...even with my room door closed i can still hear my PC from downstairs...hehehhehe. wat i did was i made a 12v/5v switch to help silence the fan when i need to sleep.... but when im fully awake...so are the fans out of curiosity...have u guys tried running the windstorm on 5v? does it work? for FFBs some do but most wont. my 80mm did...but the motor would be clicking away..... as for 120mm... i have 4 120mm FFBs and only 1 will work on 5v. but on 7v...they ALL work. edit by mod: sales content deleted. |
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QUOTE(kidmad @ Feb 15 2007, 11:55 PM) madman mind teaching me hw u make a 12v/5v switch. aint no engineering student. lol. the other alternative is to get the fan controller from vcool later on. else i gonna face dis factory machine for a long long time. DO NOT use ANY fan controllers for ur windstorm or FFBs... ESPECIALLY FFBs.. if u do that...u might as well just burn ur money with a lighter. much quicker and much less painless not unless u make the fan controller urself and made sure it can support uber high amperes. and i dont think its easy to make what with sourcing for the parts and all. currently there are NO fan controllers in the market that can officially support the high amperes of the FFBs such as the FFB1212EHE (3.0A). even the ones in sidewinder computers wont recommend it. most fan controllers are meant for normal fans.. those that are around 1.0A and below. as for the switch...its very easy...i oso not engineering student and when i made the switches... i had ZERO soldering knowledge. i used these pictures as a guide for the switches.12v / 5v Switch 12v / 7v Switch there are more switch configurations but i wanted simple ones. if ur interested to find out... head on over to CLIFF'S FANBUS which is where i got those pictures. EDIT: forgot to mention.... the SPDT switch in the picture.. its basically and on-off-on switch. which is what i asked for when i went to the electronics shop also forgot to mention that before u start making the switch, better make sure that ur fan can start from standstill at 5v. and check if it can start at standstill at 7v as well. so that u can know how low u want the fan to go and which one would actually work for u This post has been edited by mADmAN: Feb 16 2007, 02:13 AM |
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Mar 11 2007, 09:23 PM
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anyone using this fan
is this for real or just another marketing strategy Thermaltake A2368 Product Link  Max. Air Flow: 78 CFM Noise: 21 dBA |
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Mar 11 2007, 11:23 PM
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that looks alot like the BTVX fans. altho thats orange but ths is red...if its the same fan...its has a decent cfm/noise ratio
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Mar 14 2007, 10:44 AM
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hey guys! looking for a 92mm fan..hehehe any recommendations? anyone knows where to find vizo blue green uv led fan(92mm)...thanks!
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Mar 14 2007, 11:16 AM
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QUOTE(treason @ Mar 14 2007, 10:44 AM) hey guys! looking for a 92mm fan..hehehe any recommendations? anyone knows where to find vizo blue green uv led fan(92mm)...thanks! Lowyat Plaza --> lots of shops selling itForum --> in bulk order, PM bombman |
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QUOTE(E-J@1 @ Mar 11 2007, 09:23 PM) anyone using this fan that airflow/noise ratio cant be right....can it????? is this for real or just another marketing strategy Thermaltake A2368 Product Link [Max. Air Flow: 78 CFM Noise: 21 dBA |
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Mar 14 2007, 05:43 PM
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it is known that thermaltake has a tendency of bullshitting with their cfm/dba rates.
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Mar 14 2007, 08:56 PM
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QUOTE(E-J@1 @ Mar 14 2007, 11:16 AM) Lowyat Plaza --> lots of shops selling it i thought there's only 12cm fan for VIZO that' selling at the shop..Forum --> in bulk order, PM bombman QUOTE(seanl @ Mar 14 2007, 05:40 PM) that airflow/noise ratio cant be right....can it????? it is not as i have used many thermaltake fan it has never being that quiet....QUOTE(mADmAN @ Mar 14 2007, 05:43 PM) it is known that thermaltake has a tendency of bullshitting with their cfm/dba rates. yah very right ... even the most quiet fan also not that quiet .. |
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QUOTE(mADmAN @ Mar 14 2007, 05:43 PM) it is known that thermaltake has a tendency of bullshitting with their cfm/dba rates. dont quote me onn this, but iinm i read somewhere that they measure dba frm like 10 feet away, if thats true, even the the delta's will sound acceptable |
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any suggestion on 40mm fan? what brand should i choose or does it make no different?
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QUOTE(cablesguy @ Mar 14 2007, 08:57 PM) dont quote me onn this, but iinm i read somewhere that they measure dba frm like 10 feet away, if thats true, even the the delta's will sound acceptable LOL! Delta can be heard even from the next door house lar. I haf friends that got complains from neighbours about the whining jet engine sound coming from their servers at home. |
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Mar 15 2007, 02:48 AM
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wahlao, what delta is that....anyway since talking abt delta's what u guyz think abt this 60mm delta...specs wise looks pretty decent...or dont tell me delta also bs abt specs
Specifications: 60x60x10mm, 13.42 CFM @ 3000 RPM, 24.5 dBA, 0.84 watts, 0.07 amps, Maximum Air Pressure 1.65 mm HO, 12v DC, 3 pin Molex header connector. pix frm sidewinder |
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Mar 15 2007, 10:24 AM
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@cablesguy
i think that delta is the fan that comes with the stock heatsink for AMD64 s754 n s939. it does look like it |
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Mar 15 2007, 06:31 PM
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QUOTE(mADmAN @ Mar 15 2007, 10:24 AM) @cablesguy any chance u tried the fan...coz the dba looks oki think that delta is the fan that comes with the stock heatsink for AMD64 s754 n s939. it does look like it |
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of course i did.... im using it in my HTPC. and used to run it in my main rig oso. its good enough to keep my S64 2500+ and A64 2800+ cool.
noise wise... as typical as a stock AMD cooler lor EDIT: wait a minute...something just occured to me....is the s754 & s939 AMD cooler fans 60mm or 70mm? if im not mistaken theyre 70mm right? if theyre 70mm then most likely the 60mm cablesguy posted never used before This post has been edited by mADmAN: Mar 15 2007, 07:03 PM |
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Mar 16 2007, 06:00 PM
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QUOTE(mADmAN @ Mar 15 2007, 06:59 PM) of course i did.... im using it in my HTPC. and used to run it in my main rig oso. its good enough to keep my S64 2500+ and A64 2800+ cool. np noise wise... as typical as a stock AMD cooler lor EDIT: wait a minute...something just occured to me....is the s754 & s939 AMD cooler fans 60mm or 70mm? if im not mistaken theyre 70mm right? if theyre 70mm then most likely the 60mm cablesguy posted never used before ...would be good if someone tried that...anyway some info for those looking for silent fans, managed to test 2 different type of 120mm fans, the Scythe S-Flex F and the Yate Loon D12SM-12
The scythe feels very solid and heavy for a 25mm thick fan whereas the yate loons are very light, but both pushed a decent amount of air, listening less than a feet away +-, unless my ear are playing tricks, abt the only sound i hear are the air being pushed Some info and Specs: Scythe S-Flex Model: SFF21F Fan Size: 120mm x 120mm x 25mm Speed: 1600 RPM Airflow: 63.7 CFM Noise: 28.0 dBA Bearing: S-FDB* (Sony patent pending Fluid Dynamic Bearing) Voltage: 12 V Current: .2 Amp Fan Life: 150,000 hours Connector: 3pin (length: 30cm) with 3pin to 4pin connector w/ separate RPM Fan Screws: 4 fan screws included *S-FLEX(tm) is registered trademark of SONY Corp. Yate Loon Model: D12SM-12 Fan Size: 120mm x 120mm x 25mm Speed: 1650 +/- 10% RPM Airflow: 70.5 CFM Noise: 33.0 dBA Bearing: Sleeve Voltage: 12 V Current: .3 Amp Max Fan Life: 30,000 hours Connector: 3pin and 4pin pass-through connector |
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Mar 16 2007, 07:24 PM
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As i am falling more and more to dead silent setup, i'm starting to feel that all 5 vantec spectrum 120mm uvled fans are kinda "noisy" well, not really noisy, it's just that i'm slowly starting to feel that i can't stand the noise anymore.
All these started when i switch my casing from the 3D Aurora 570 to this Lian Li PC-G7. I'm thinking of swapping all 120mm fan to these: Aerocool 120MM Silver Lightning Fan It's not the most silent, but it's better than this Vantec Spectrum UV Led Fans   Official Link: http://www.aerocool.us/p-accessory/silver%...ning%20fan.html Love the white led. Yeah, i know coolermaster also have those fans with white led's, but, it's just too slow at 1200RPM. While the Aerocool Silver Lightning is at 1500RPM which is quite okay too me. Not too fast, not too slow. Thinking of buying five units of 120MM Aerocool Silver Lightning and one unit of 80MM Aerocool Silver Lightning. What do you guys think about this fan? This post has been edited by sHawTY: Mar 16 2007, 07:25 PM |
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Mar 16 2007, 07:37 PM
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hmm i have seen and feel the fan on spot ... some how i think the air flow is a bit weak of course not as quiet as CM.. .
however the blade design is very nice.. hmm u need 5 means 3 for the case and two for the radiator .. or u buy more for other rig ???? |
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Mar 16 2007, 07:39 PM
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Honestly, any 120mm fan that spins at 1500rpm is gonna be fairly audible. They'll probably be better than thoes Vantec UVs, but I doubt they'll be anywhere near silent considering the 1200rpm CM UV is not completely silent either. Additionally, that Aerocool looks like it's geared more towards bling anyway.
I recommend you try getting some Yate Loons/Scythes/CM UVs, undervolting them to run at about 1000rpm or so and see how it goes. IF your temps don't suffer too much, you'll probably have a pretty quiet fan setup. Which will of course make you notice other things like HDD seek noise and PWM whine. |
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Mar 16 2007, 07:42 PM
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QUOTE(Doom @ Mar 16 2007, 07:37 PM) hmm i have seen and feel the fan on spot ... some how i think the air flow is a bit weak of course not as quiet as CM.. . Where? however the blade design is very nice.. hmm u need 5 means 3 for the case and two for the radiator .. or u buy more for other rig ???? Offcourse its weaker, weaker than Vantec Spectrum UV Led fans and Vizo Fans. Coz it's RPM is 300RPM lower than those vantec fans. As i've said earlier, i need silent, but i need CFM's too, 1200RPM is too low for me. I can stand some noise, but i can't stand Vantec Spectrum fans noise anymore. About the quantity of fans, yes, you are right. 3 For the case, and two for the radiator. and one extra 80mm fan for the top blowhole on the casing. Not sure bout the pricing though, as i didn't see anyone sells aerocool products here. Added on March 16, 2007, 7:46 pm QUOTE(evilnickwong @ Mar 16 2007, 07:39 PM) Honestly, any 120mm fan that spins at 1500rpm is gonna be fairly audible. They'll probably be better than thoes Vantec UVs, but I doubt they'll be anywhere near silent considering the 1200rpm CM UV is not completely silent either. Additionally, that Aerocool looks like it's geared more towards bling anyway. 1000RPM you say? I recommend you try getting some Yate Loons/Scythes/CM UVs, undervolting them to run at about 1000rpm or so and see how it goes. IF your temps don't suffer too much, you'll probably have a pretty quiet fan setup. Which will of course make you notice other things like HDD seek noise and PWM whine. Remember when i use to have Gigabyte 3D Aurora 570 casing? All of the 120MM fans used in that comes with that casing spins at exactly 1000RPM. And seriously, i can't stand it, it's too low, and seriously, i can't feel any air through the fans. And when it's too low, the temps are freaking high! And when i switch all the fans to Vantec Spectrum Fans, the temps decrease a lot. I know it's not the best solution for a dead silent setup. But i need some CFM's too. 1000RPm & 1200RPm is too low for me, so it's not in my book of fans. This post has been edited by sHawTY: Mar 16 2007, 07:46 PM |
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Mar 16 2007, 09:39 PM
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hmm .. so can the Aerorcool fan reach 50 cfm with as low as 17~20dba noise??
anyway you could use case fan dampening kit from Vantec to reduce the noise .. it is kind of useful as well to reduce noise.. btw which fan u use for the PC-G7 ?? original case fan ?? if is the stock fan it should be a bit noisy ... |
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Mar 16 2007, 10:04 PM
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QUOTE(Doom @ Mar 16 2007, 09:39 PM) hmm .. so can the Aerorcool fan reach 50 cfm with as low as 17~20dba noise?? 50CFM is very low for a 120MM fans. anyway you could use case fan dampening kit from Vantec to reduce the noise .. it is kind of useful as well to reduce noise.. btw which fan u use for the PC-G7 ?? original case fan ?? if is the stock fan it should be a bit noisy ... And about the 17~20DBa noise, that kind of noise can only be achieved by those 1000~1200RPm. I don't want those, as it's too slow and the CFM is too low. This aerocool 120MM fan however, gives you 65CFM on 26.5DBa. That's considered silent d. Rather than my Vantec that is on 30++DBa The stock PC-G7 fan speed is 1400RPM on 100%. But the design of the fan is too simple, yet, no bling bling at all. I don't want too much bling bling, i just want a fan with white led's. That's all. Plus, i think White Led Fans are quite "SMART" No other colour of led's wanted in my CPU. |
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Mar 16 2007, 10:10 PM
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hhahha ,,, where u going to source it from ... ??
i might want one for testing only .. .muhahahha |
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Mar 16 2007, 10:18 PM
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QUOTE(Doom @ Mar 16 2007, 10:10 PM) hhahha ,,, where u going to source it from ... ?? That's what i've been thinking lately.i might want one for testing only .. .muhahahha Quite hard to find that aerocool fans here. Not quite hard, but it is hard. |
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Mar 16 2007, 11:12 PM
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Any1 seen those Noctua fans on sale locally? I just love the design of the blades on those fans. Very very nice, like a submarine's propellors.
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Mar 16 2007, 11:16 PM
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QUOTE(ianho @ Mar 16 2007, 11:12 PM) Any1 seen those Noctua fans on sale locally? I just love the design of the blades on those fans. Very very nice, like a submarine's propellors.  Now that's an appreciation. Well bro, if you want noctua fans, you can't find it anywhere else except from irangan. He's the only one guy that bulk that brand here. |
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Mar 17 2007, 01:55 PM
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QUOTE(sHawTY @ Mar 16 2007, 11:16 PM) Now that's an appreciation. Well bro, if you want noctua fans, you can't find it anywhere else except from irangan. He's the only one guy that bulk that brand here. |
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Mar 17 2007, 02:26 PM
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QUOTE(Kataro @ Mar 17 2007, 01:55 PM) but irangan say he will not bring in that fan alone due the the price is high... if a lot people want it and can accept the price...I think irangan will consider to bring in...maybe... Uncle ianho olang kaya mah. Those noctua fans cheap cheap only to him. |
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Mar 17 2007, 05:03 PM
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hhahaha he's indeed rich but the real rich guys does not spent much on pc ...
one meal they paid can get u a nice graphic card already ... one thing that buy can buy entire mid high pc .... anyway hope that more people bulk better brand of fan like Yate Loon, Panaflo, Nortua and so on ,,, this market is dead with CM and ICute or chapalang brand ... |
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Mar 17 2007, 11:51 PM
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Yeah...
if can have more bulk on those great fans will be nice... |
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Mar 18 2007, 01:11 AM
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QUOTE(sHawTY @ Mar 16 2007, 07:24 PM) As i am falling more and more to dead silent setup, i'm starting to feel that all 5 vantec spectrum 120mm uvled fans are kinda "noisy" well, not really noisy, it's just that i'm slowly starting to feel that i can't stand the noise anymore. im currently using the 140mm ones to cool my hdd....not too bad....very silent All these started when i switch my casing from the 3D Aurora 570 to this Lian Li PC-G7. I'm thinking of swapping all 120mm fan to these: Aerocool 120MM Silver Lightning Fan It's not the most silent, but it's better than this Vantec Spectrum UV Led Fans Love the white led. Yeah, i know coolermaster also have those fans with white led's, but, it's just too slow at 1200RPM. While the Aerocool Silver Lightning is at 1500RPM which is quite okay too me. Not too fast, not too slow. Thinking of buying five units of 120MM Aerocool Silver Lightning and one unit of 80MM Aerocool Silver Lightning. What do you guys think about this fan? |
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Mar 18 2007, 11:01 PM
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Can any1 recommend what fan should i use for this rig?
intel C2D E6600 kingston ddr2 667 pc5400 x2 maxtor 300gb 8800GTS plz give as much detail as u can cause i really not good in this..... thanks in advance. |
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Mar 19 2007, 01:57 AM
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at least tell us the casing u are using and the CPU cooler as well.
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Mar 28 2007, 04:00 PM
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Quite a comprehensive review on the 120mm fans. This has been posted all over the net. Just thought I'd share it here.
Linkage Wonder how our local favourite, the Vizo, fares against the competition. to mods: Dont really know where to put this, thought that ppl who visit this thread 'might' be interested in case fans. If not, please move it to where appropriate. |
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Mar 28 2007, 04:36 PM
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Very interested in this review. Thanks vassalle.
Mods, mayb can make a new post and pin it for others to see what types of fans available in malaysia, then how's the performance, then let the buyer choose according to how they plan to use the fans lo. |
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Mar 28 2007, 04:37 PM
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There's already a case fans thread. Will merge them. Link added to 1st post so all can c it. Thanks for a very good link vassale.
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Mar 28 2007, 04:54 PM
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QUOTE(ianho @ Mar 28 2007, 04:37 PM) There's already a case fans thread. Will merge them. Link added to 1st post so all can c it. Thanks for a very good link vassale. Cheers. Why didn't i think of posting it in the case fans thread |
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Mar 30 2007, 10:35 AM
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QUOTE(vassalle @ Mar 28 2007, 04:00 PM) Quite a comprehensive review on the 120mm fans. This has been posted all over the net. Just thought I'd share it here. I don't think VIZO would within the comparison as most of the test taken either for total quietness or full performance... Linkage Wonder how our local favourite, the Vizo, fares against the competition. to mods: Dont really know where to put this, thought that ppl who visit this thread 'might' be interested in case fans. If not, please move it to where appropriate. VIZO is to noisy for silent condition on the other hand it also can't push as much of air flow like Delta fans... |
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Apr 5 2007, 01:44 PM
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K apparently I posted in the wrong thread before this:
QUOTE(knighty @ Apr 5 2007, 12:35 AM) My casing has absolutely no fans in it, besides the cpu and graphic card fan. I'm using this cheap casing, except there's a hole in the side of it unlike the pictures. I was thinking of getting a side fan, since there's a hole on the side of the casing..but what direction do I put? Blowing in or out? I heard it's better to have one fan in and one fan out but there aren't anymore holes in my casing...if that's better is it possible if I removed those empty slots in front of the casing and try to "stick" a fan there? |
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Apr 5 2007, 07:41 PM
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Ok guys, this might be asked a tons of times but i really hope you guys can help me answer the question here.
First of all, i needed to know, actually in what direction should fans in a casing be blowing?I mean for all the fans such as front, rear, side, top etc. Is there any specific way that fix which way a fan should blow?Thanks alot.. |
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Apr 5 2007, 08:28 PM
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QUOTE(akachester @ Apr 5 2007, 07:41 PM) Ok guys, this might be asked a tons of times but i really hope you guys can help me answer the question here. Front = Intake (IN)First of all, i needed to know, actually in what direction should fans in a casing be blowing?I mean for all the fans such as front, rear, side, top etc. Is there any specific way that fix which way a fan should blow?Thanks alot.. Rear = Exhaust (OUT) Side = Intake (IN) Top = Exhaust (OUT) This post has been edited by z3r0717: Apr 5 2007, 08:28 PM |
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Apr 5 2007, 08:47 PM
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Em may i ask is it those dust fliter for fans is come with the fan when buy or can just direct buy the fliter ?
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Apr 5 2007, 10:27 PM
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QUOTE(vincent09 @ Apr 5 2007, 08:47 PM) Em may i ask is it those dust fliter for fans is come with the fan when buy or can just direct buy the fliter ? I seldom see fans that come together with filter..But i do need to find filter for myself.Not sure where to get them though.. |
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Apr 5 2007, 10:33 PM
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QUOTE(vincent09 @ Apr 5 2007, 08:47 PM) Em may i ask is it those dust fliter for fans is come with the fan when buy or can just direct buy the fliter ? QUOTE(akachester @ Apr 5 2007, 10:27 PM) I seldom see fans that come together with filter..But i do need to find filter for myself.Not sure where to get them though.. i think evercool sells them.. but they come with the fans which i dunwan.. Called spider filter, smthing like tat.. I've tried to search in LYP b4, no1 selling juz fan filters. Some even duno wat's tat. 2 options, get from ianho or from BULK. |
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Apr 6 2007, 08:17 AM
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I see fans come with fliter 1 but ugly .....
Now i DIY 1 fliter for my casing fans, actually is not a fliter, just use something block infront the fans to avoid direct touch the fans. |
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Apr 6 2007, 09:31 AM
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Even when my current C5 comes with a small thin layer of sponge at the front panel, dust is still unavoidable. Its still very dusty especially the fan.Thats why i am trying to find a better solution in this problem..
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Apr 7 2007, 07:46 PM
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Hi...can i ask how to adjust the fan speed,i'm using vizo uv led fan anyway can it off the led light.
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Apr 7 2007, 08:15 PM
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QUOTE(alliddin @ Apr 7 2007, 07:46 PM) Hi...can i ask how to adjust the fan speed,i'm using vizo uv led fan anyway can it off the led light. Just cut off the wires to the LEDS lor. Simple oni. |
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Apr 7 2007, 08:41 PM
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QUOTE(ianho @ Apr 7 2007, 08:15 PM) Just cut off the wires to the LEDS lor. Simple oni. How about the fan speed? |
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Apr 7 2007, 11:10 PM
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adjust the fan speed? just mod it to 5v or 7v.
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Apr 7 2007, 11:10 PM
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Adjusting the fan speed can be done in two ways:
1st software in the window environment, mobo software or speed fan. 2nd Grab a speed controller from CM, TT and etc to manually adjust it. |
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Apr 9 2007, 08:59 AM
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Em any suggestion place in LY that got sell Thermetake casing fans ?
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Apr 9 2007, 11:32 AM
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want to ask some noob question here.
1. cpu fan is blowing air to the heatsink or sucking air from it? 2. what about gc fan? same ka? if (1=blowing air) { then what about the cpu fan like: Zalman CNPS9700 NT or cm Hyper 6+ ? coz their fan position is sideway. is that means you have to position it opposite of ur rear fan? (means that cpu fan and rear fan is not facing each other.) but if like that then it will also sucking air hot air from ram/cd? } |
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Apr 9 2007, 03:08 PM
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QUOTE(vincent09 @ Apr 9 2007, 08:59 AM) Em any suggestion place in LY that got sell Thermetake casing fans ? I don;t thnk there's any place that sell TT fan at LYP nowdays ... Last time Robyncom and All IT got few but now days seems to be totally dissappear Besides, why getting TT fan ?? and which model u are looking for ?? maybe u could check out the bulk orders.. QUOTE(dfcloud @ Apr 9 2007, 11:32 AM) want to ask some noob question here. there are two types of mounting for CPU fans .. 1. cpu fan is blowing air to the heatsink or sucking air from it? 2. what about gc fan? same ka? if (1=blowing air) { then what about the cpu fan like: Zalman CNPS9700 NT or cm Hyper 6+ ? coz their fan position is sideway. is that means you have to position it opposite of ur rear fan? (means that cpu fan and rear fan is not facing each other.) but if like that then it will also sucking air hot air from ram/cd? } 1st. Blow toward the CPU die then the hot air would be suck out by the PSU fan and rear case fan. 2nd. Heat pipe that transfer the heat away from the CPU die to the dissipation fins that can be faced up to the PSU or rear to the rear fan. No matter how it's positioned, there must be a fan to suck the hot air blow through the heat sink out from the case. Zalman CNP9700 is one of the type, the heat is blow away by the fan fit on the heat sink itself to the rear fan for direct exhaust from the case ... never ever have to fans that blow exhaust in opposite direction, it must flow through the same direction to avoid heat air trapped inside the case .. as for VGA there are two types also.. 1st. fan blow toward the heat sink and the hot air is drawn out by the rear case fan or side fan. 2nd. Blower style that exhaust the air directly out from the case through rear opening of the card. usually can be found on cards that uses dual PCI slot, the second PCI bracket would have holes for exhaust. Much more efficient but occupy more spaces and usually more expensive ... |
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Apr 9 2007, 10:20 PM
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just yesterday i nearly lost a finger because of my 90mm fan....wanted to test the fan speed after cleaning it, thinking that it wont start flying...( because i put it on the table...how stupid i am ) then again one of the blade patah n now i need a replacement. do vizo uv starlet have the 90mm fan? im thinking on buying the coolemaster dual storm... anyone use it before? can give me some suggestions?
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Apr 9 2007, 11:07 PM
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Should be silent and nice airflow ... but can't expect too much ...
maybe u could google for review as the product being in the market for while ... |
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Apr 10 2007, 12:37 PM
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@Doom
so that mean, all heat sink like that zalman shud be place like this? || OO11 || OO11 || = rear fan O = heatsink 1 = heatsink fan and what about stock heatsink? it blow air toward the heatsink right? i have a cm hyper L3. it have 3 heat pipes IIRC. so that means, it suck hot air from the heat pipes right? and if i have a sidepanel fan. should it be exhaust to suck out the air from cpu or rear fan is already enough for the job. tq This post has been edited by dfcloud: Apr 10 2007, 12:38 PM |
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Apr 10 2007, 12:58 PM
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yah ,,,, best combination and straight forward and less changes in airflow ..
Heat pipe transfer heat from the hot source to the cool area.. which usually is attached with the cooling fins. From there u CPU fan blow away the heat from the fins and let the PSU and rear case fan to suck it out from the case .... you just need a nice 12cm rear case fan or dual 8cm with the PSU fan to suck all the hot air out ... if u are heat sink that blow air toward it u can equipt it with the side panel that take cool air and faced toward the heat sink .,,, This post has been edited by Doom: Apr 10 2007, 01:00 PM |
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Apr 10 2007, 02:19 PM
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okeh. got it!.
thx alot mista doom |
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Apr 10 2007, 07:58 PM
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no problem .. .we are here to share and gain experience ...
i also learn from others here... |
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Apr 12 2007, 07:03 PM
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My friend went to buy vizo windstorm on wednesday at lowyat ( i told him not to buy because it is too noisy but he still buy..hehe) and finally at night he went and tested the fan..... it is so fast and the fan burned itself.....thank god today he went to replace it.....
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Apr 12 2007, 07:41 PM
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maybe the fan got short circuit. drawing excessive current.
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Apr 13 2007, 02:23 AM
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hmm .. i thought all these fans have gone through the QC process to make sure at least it works ,,,
anyway that's the only choice in local market for high CFM at affordable price .. |
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Apr 14 2007, 11:54 PM
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QUOTE(z3r0717 @ Apr 5 2007, 08:28 PM) Front = Intake (IN) Will there be any wrong if is switch the top fan from exhaust into intake?I mean is that way going to influence the temperature?Rear = Exhaust (OUT) Side = Intake (IN) Top = Exhaust (OUT) |
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Apr 15 2007, 02:36 AM
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I would prefer to have intake for top as it could cool off the ram area before being pull to the CPU heatsink area ....
Dont worry about changing the top to intake ... it woul be more positive effect than negative.. |
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Apr 15 2007, 03:36 AM
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QUOTE(Doom @ Apr 15 2007, 02:36 AM) I would prefer to have intake for top as it could cool off the ram area before being pull to the CPU heatsink area .... hm.. the hot air is flowing up but u wanna make the top for intake? hm.. sounds not really good idea unless u got a powerful 200cfm rear fan that suck the hot air outDont worry about changing the top to intake ... it woul be more positive effect than negative.. |
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Apr 15 2007, 04:35 AM
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QUOTE(akachester @ Apr 14 2007, 11:54 PM) Will there be any wrong if is switch the top fan from exhaust into intake?I mean is that way going to influence the temperature? the best way is too do a trial & error test, see which setup produce the best result some say the top fan is best for intake & some say its for exhaust... just a bit tiring la, have to remount the fan again & again & again... but when u got the best result of it, u will using the setup like FOREVER |
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Apr 15 2007, 09:58 AM
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QUOTE(E-J@1 @ Apr 15 2007, 04:35 AM) the best way is too do a trial & error test, see which setup produce the best result So, the way that i would know would be changing the position and check the temperature?I will change it to exhaust and see as my current LL front and rear isnt performing up to expectation.Silent but bad preasure...Need to change the front to Noctua and rear to SS.. some say the top fan is best for intake & some say its for exhaust... just a bit tiring la, have to remount the fan again & again & again... but when u got the best result of it, u will using the setup like FOREVER |
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Apr 15 2007, 12:35 PM
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QUOTE(akachester @ Apr 15 2007, 09:58 AM) So, the way that i would know would be changing the position and check the temperature?I will change it to exhaust and see as my current LL front and rear isnt performing up to expectation.Silent but bad preasure...Need to change the front to Noctua and rear to SS.. huhu...2 Noctua as front intake? coz see you wanna order 2 Noctua fan at irangan bulk there... me too wanna get 2 Noctua fan as intake...already have Silverstone FM-121 at rear...wanna see how much it can help for my case air flow... |
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Apr 15 2007, 01:13 PM
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QUOTE(Kataro @ Apr 15 2007, 12:35 PM) huhu...2 Noctua as front intake? Nah, not really.Might keep it when i needed another front intake or maybe convert it to a side intake if i am going to get myself a side panel for LL. For now, i am planning to get a Noctua as front intake and a SS FM121 as the rear. Already have the SS FM82 as top exhaust. But i am surely running those SS fan at merely half of their speed as its really too noisy to my liking.Hopefully even at half speed, its still able to provide me a good cooling solution and air flow... coz see you wanna order 2 Noctua fan at irangan bulk there... me too wanna get 2 Noctua fan as intake...already have Silverstone FM-121 at rear...wanna see how much it can help for my case air flow... |
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Apr 15 2007, 04:57 PM
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The reason i say to make it intake for the top blow hole ... becoz the cool air goes down and mix would be pull to the CPU area and exhaust by both the rear case fan and PSU fan ....
it is a pull configuration whereby dual 12cm pull VS single 8cm push .. obvisouly the air hot air from PSU wont really rise to the PSU so much as compare to exhaust by the rear case fan which always speen at higher RPM to push hot air out from the case ... |
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Apr 15 2007, 05:03 PM
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QUOTE(akachester @ Apr 15 2007, 01:13 PM) Nah, not really.Might keep it when i needed another front intake or maybe convert it to a side intake if i am going to get myself a side panel for LL. For now, i am planning to get a Noctua as front intake and a SS FM121 as the rear. Already have the SS FM82 as top exhaust. But i am surely running those SS fan at merely half of their speed as its really too noisy to my liking.Hopefully even at half speed, its still able to provide me a good cooling solution and air flow... at half speed (1200rpm) you will hardly heard any sound from it... but the air flow is not that great... from my testing just now... the noise level for 1200rpm and 1600rpm is not much different but the air flow will be a bit bigger for 1600rpm...so you can try play around at that level... not necessary to run it at half speed as I notice the temp will higher 1-3C in my case if I turn it to 1200rpm...which is not so good for my Pentium D...maybe during cold weather can turn it to half speed or even below 1000rpm... maybe for your casing will be different from mine lor coz you are using LL casing now... and you have FM82 as top exhaust...I only have FM-121 as rear exhaust... |
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Apr 15 2007, 05:08 PM
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Ok, guys..
As recommended, i did change the top fan (FM82) in my case from intake to exhaust just now.After about 1 hour+ in a closed room (door closed, only a single window is opened), i am starting to sweat.lol...Then, when i checked with PC Wizard regarding the temperature, it has risen to a crazy 53c on idle. As far as i could remember from my C5 days, it will barely touch the 50c mark.. Then, i changed back to intake and currently, the temperature is about 45c. What might be the problem here? I tried to experiment myself regarding this problem and found out a few possibilty. Could this be the problem of using those silent but poor LL case fan as front intake and exhaust causing the air intake to be poor?I mean, those fan are really really poor.I could barely feel the air when i put my hands near those fans.. And not to mention, the LL case came together with fan filters. Would these filters be blocking the air flow of the case? Now, i guess i desperately need to get myself the SS and Noctua to get better airflow if the fans are the problems.. QUOTE(Kataro @ Apr 15 2007, 05:03 PM) at half speed (1200rpm) you will hardly heard any sound from it... but the air flow is not that great... from my testing just now... the noise level for 1200rpm and 1600rpm is not much different but the air flow will be a bit bigger for 1600rpm...so you can try play around at that level... not necessary to run it at half speed as I notice the temp will higher 1-3C in my case if I turn it to 1200rpm...which is not so good for my Pentium D...maybe during cold weather can turn it to half speed or even below 1000rpm... maybe for your casing will be different from mine lor coz you are using LL casing now... and you have FM82 as top exhaust...I only have FM-121 as rear exhaust... Ok.Thanks for the info there..I just realise about something here.When i changed the position of my FM82 from intake to exhaust, the noise level was actually lower even at full speed.When it was as an exhaust, the noise level was tolerable with me but when it was as an intake, man, its almost unbearable.Too noisy there..Thats why i was running it at 1/2 speed.In this case, if the FM121 wasnt that noisy, i could tolerate it running at full speed though...This post has been edited by akachester: Apr 15 2007, 05:12 PM |
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Apr 15 2007, 10:05 PM
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QUOTE(akachester @ Apr 15 2007, 05:08 PM) Ok, guys.. I think the temp will drop to 45C when you put the FM82 as intake is because the cool air will directly go thru your Zalman CPU cooler there (in case the top blow hole is at the top of processor area there) and then exhaust thru the rear exhaust and PSU fan... when you put the FM82 as exhaust, the cool air from the front intake is not enough to cool down the whole case as it will pass thru hdd then go up, then will exhaust at rear exhasut, PSU fan and FM82, so the air flow is a bit messy inside your casing because your rear exhaust fan is not storng enough... As recommended, i did change the top fan (FM82) in my case from intake to exhaust just now.After about 1 hour+ in a closed room (door closed, only a single window is opened), i am starting to sweat.lol...Then, when i checked with PC Wizard regarding the temperature, it has risen to a crazy 53c on idle. As far as i could remember from my C5 days, it will barely touch the 50c mark.. Then, i changed back to intake and currently, the temperature is about 45c. What might be the problem here? I tried to experiment myself regarding this problem and found out a few possibilty. Could this be the problem of using those silent but poor LL case fan as front intake and exhaust causing the air intake to be poor?I mean, those fan are really really poor.I could barely feel the air when i put my hands near those fans.. And not to mention, the LL case came together with fan filters. Would these filters be blocking the air flow of the case? Now, i guess i desperately need to get myself the SS and Noctua to get better airflow if the fans are the problems.. Ok.Thanks for the info there..I just realise about something here.When i changed the position of my FM82 from intake to exhaust, the noise level was actually lower even at full speed.When it was as an exhaust, the noise level was tolerable with me but when it was as an intake, man, its almost unbearable.Too noisy there..Thats why i was running it at 1/2 speed.In this case, if the FM121 wasnt that noisy, i could tolerate it running at full speed though... If you change your rear fan to FM-121, and your front intake to Noctua fan, then the condtion maybe different a bit...coz the FM-121 will be strong enough to push out the hot air and the Noctua fan will bring enough cool air in too... so, the hot air at the top near the PSU and cable there will be able to exhaust by the FM82... Anyway, this is just my opinion and estimation...I might be wrong...so please correct me if I am wrong so that I can learn too... me too still trying to make my rig cooler... |
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Apr 15 2007, 11:05 PM
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QUOTE(akachester @ Apr 15 2007, 05:08 PM) And not to mention, the LL case came together with fan filters. Would these filters be blocking the air flow of the case? make sure u change the rear fan mesh filter to those ring type ones. air can flow easier. the front filter is up to u. i changed mine to uglyvamps's filter. the default LL filter has holes that are just to big to be a filter. if u ditch the filter, u get better airflow. but dust............. |
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Apr 16 2007, 09:02 AM
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QUOTE(Kataro @ Apr 15 2007, 10:05 PM) I think the temp will drop to 45C when you put the FM82 as intake is because the cool air will directly go thru your Zalman CPU cooler there (in case the top blow hole is at the top of processor area there) and then exhaust thru the rear exhaust and PSU fan... when you put the FM82 as exhaust, the cool air from the front intake is not enough to cool down the whole case as it will pass thru hdd then go up, then will exhaust at rear exhasut, PSU fan and FM82, so the air flow is a bit messy inside your casing because your rear exhaust fan is not storng enough... Great idea here.I will definitely try this out when i get my hands on two good fans for my front intake and exhaust.I am still considering something more silent but pushes enough air as well.. If you change your rear fan to FM-121, and your front intake to Noctua fan, then the condtion maybe different a bit...coz the FM-121 will be strong enough to push out the hot air and the Noctua fan will bring enough cool air in too... so, the hot air at the top near the PSU and cable there will be able to exhaust by the FM82... Anyway, this is just my opinion and estimation...I might be wrong...so please correct me if I am wrong so that I can learn too... me too still trying to make my rig cooler... QUOTE(Skylinestar @ Apr 15 2007, 11:05 PM) make sure u change the rear fan mesh filter to those ring type ones. air can flow easier. the front filter is up to u. i changed mine to uglyvamps's filter. the default LL filter has holes that are just to big to be a filter. if u ditch the filter, u get better airflow. but dust............. Well, the fan filter mesh that came with my PC-7 have really tiny holes.I am not sure what other filter does LL have by mine as like an aluminium plate which has really small holes. And my best guess is that these tiny holes are somewhat blocking the airflow of my already poor LL fan.I am inclined to take out the filters as dust is a really big problem to me..Now, i need to search for a better fan as well as a better filter.. |
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Apr 16 2007, 09:57 AM
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QUOTE(akachester @ Apr 16 2007, 09:02 AM) Great idea here.I will definitely try this out when i get my hands on two good fans for my front intake and exhaust.I am still considering something more silent but pushes enough air as well.. Yeah, try it out and post the result here to share... Well, the fan filter mesh that came with my PC-7 have really tiny holes.I am not sure what other filter does LL have by mine as like an aluminium plate which has really small holes. And my best guess is that these tiny holes are somewhat blocking the airflow of my already poor LL fan.I am inclined to take out the filters as dust is a really big problem to me..Now, i need to search for a better fan as well as a better filter.. Change your filter to uglyvamps's filter too lor...I think this filter will be better than the LL aluminium filter as the air block by uglyvamps's filter is lesser than the aluminium filter... just my 2 cents... |
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Apr 16 2007, 10:32 AM
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QUOTE(Kataro @ Apr 16 2007, 09:57 AM) Yeah, try it out and post the result here to share... If you could PM me the links to uglyvamp's filter, that will be great as i cant seem to find them.Thanks.. Change your filter to uglyvamps's filter too lor...I think this filter will be better than the LL aluminium filter as the air block by uglyvamps's filter is lesser than the aluminium filter... just my 2 cents... Anyway, just wondering, do u use the fan controller of the FM121?If you do, where do u place the controller at?Is the cable long enough to connect the fan located in rear with the controller located at floopy bay? |
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Apr 16 2007, 11:24 AM
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QUOTE(akachester @ Apr 16 2007, 10:32 AM) If you could PM me the links to uglyvamp's filter, that will be great as i cant seem to find them.Thanks.. Anyway, just wondering, do u use the fan controller of the FM121?If you do, where do u place the controller at?Is the cable long enough to connect the fan located in rear with the controller located at floopy bay? I don't know where is the link too...read about it long long time ago...sorry can't help... Yes, I do use the fan controller...as per posted in other thread, I put it at the floopy bay there, stick it using double side tape as my casing floppy bay can't fit it well...the controller cable? very very long untill I need to tie it up and hide in somewhere...I think have around 100cm or more gua the cable...did not measure it before... should be no problem for your case de...with that long cable, you can play with it to meet your cable management requirement...as for the power cable of the FM-121, it is not that long like the controller cable, but also still have more than enough to connect from rear to front... |
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Apr 16 2007, 11:55 AM
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give u guys a taste of uglyvamp's fan filters
my pc after being on 24/7 for 7days  the one on the CPU HSF is a mesh filter from uglyvamp oso.  theres also another mesh filter on his members store in Price & Dealers Guide section. |
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Apr 16 2007, 01:34 PM
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Any1 seen those aluminum fans from Evercool. I've been looking high n low for them for a long time. I finally found them at the PC Fair. Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.
2200RPM n 85CFM! The fan frame is built like a heatsink with fins on it. I'm gonna use it on my CoolerMaster GeminII to try n improve the temps even more. The frame will hopefully absorb lotsa heat from the GeminII n drop the temps by a few more degrees. Who knows I may be able to get to 3ghz with my AMD X2 on air. |
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Apr 16 2007, 01:35 PM
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yeah i saw them....but the dba figures on the fans kinda put me off ler.
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Apr 16 2007, 01:38 PM
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QUOTE(mADmAN @ Apr 16 2007, 01:35 PM) yeah i saw them....but the dba figures on the fans kinda put me off ler. Can always use fan controller mar. I want the 85CFM n the nice phat aluminum frame to suck out more heat from my HSF n hopefully get more OC out of it. I want to make my X2 go up to 3ghz on air in Aircond room hopefully. |
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Apr 16 2007, 01:58 PM
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hmmm .. that would be nice .... btw how much it cost for one ??
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Apr 16 2007, 03:24 PM
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QUOTE(Doom @ Apr 16 2007, 01:58 PM) hmmm .. that would be nice .... btw how much it cost for one ?? IIRC the last time I saw it, was rm50. I got it for rm30 at the fair. This is for the 120mm. The 92mm fan I got for rm25. Sumore got free issue of PC.Com magazine. Damn worth it. |
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Apr 16 2007, 03:27 PM
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QUOTE(ianho @ Apr 16 2007, 01:38 PM) Can always use fan controller mar. I want the 85CFM n the nice phat aluminum frame to suck out more heat from my HSF n hopefully get more OC out of it. I want to make my X2 go up to 3ghz on air in Aircond room hopefully. Uncle ianho, don't want get Noctua fan? Now irangan is accepting order for it liao...RM65 each (excluding postage fee to your house)...last time saw you post somewhere say wanna get it... |
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Apr 16 2007, 03:38 PM
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hopefully those Evercool fan will available at LYP
or they already have long time haven't been to LYP, dunno what is available as the price list only shows the main hardware @ ianho, does those fan u bought got any led on it |
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Apr 16 2007, 04:12 PM
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QUOTE(Kataro @ Apr 16 2007, 03:27 PM) Uncle ianho, don't want get Noctua fan? Now irangan is accepting order for it liao...RM65 each (excluding postage fee to your house)...last time saw you post somewhere say wanna get it... Dowan d coz I prefer aluminum fans. Looking for this Evercool damn long time n finally got it. QUOTE(E-J@1 @ Apr 16 2007, 03:38 PM) hopefully those Evercool fan will available at LYP No LEDs. But it's pretty nice. the frame is natural silver alu n the fan blade is in chrome. I will modify the fans b4 putting them on. Mod what? Look at the King Kong II worklog later. or they already have long time haven't been to LYP, dunno what is available as the price list only shows the main hardware @ ianho, does those fan u bought got any led on it |
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Apr 16 2007, 04:23 PM
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hmm good speculation for how the fans will work in the monster King Kong ....
What about the vibration level ?? The fan should be steady since it's aluminum ... |
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Apr 16 2007, 04:57 PM
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QUOTE(ianho @ Apr 16 2007, 04:12 PM) Dowan d coz I prefer aluminum fans. Looking for this Evercool damn long time n finally got it. ic. nvmlor... I will 2 for my intake... No LEDs. But it's pretty nice. the frame is natural silver alu n the fan blade is in chrome. I will modify the fans b4 putting them on. Mod what? Look at the King Kong II worklog later. btw, how is the aluminium fan performance? |
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Apr 16 2007, 05:00 PM
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QUOTE(Kataro @ Apr 16 2007, 04:57 PM) ic. nvmlor... I will 2 for my intake... Dunno yet. I havent even plug it in to check. Bz with JAWs n another Rig right now. Later I will mod it n use it for King Kong II. btw, how is the aluminium fan performance? |
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Apr 16 2007, 05:07 PM
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QUOTE(ianho @ Apr 16 2007, 05:00 PM) Dunno yet. I havent even plug it in to check. Bz with JAWs n another Rig right now. Later I will mod it n use it for King Kong II. ok. I will check the King Kong II worklog to see how is the performance when you have time to mod it... |
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Apr 16 2007, 07:21 PM
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Can we see the performance from his tread .. ???
i thought we need to ask him in person ?? or at least able to see it in person.. |
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Apr 16 2007, 08:04 PM
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QUOTE(Doom @ Apr 16 2007, 07:21 PM) Can we see the performance from his tread .. ??? What I mean is, when he finally mod it into the case, he might give some information about the fan performance in his worklog... of course can see it in person will be better but that is not possible for me as I am living in Sungai Mati, Muar, Johor here... i thought we need to ask him in person ?? or at least able to see it in person.. |
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anyone using a evercool 120mm led fan....... around 2500RPM push 70 ++ CFM........ it a bit noisy though.
i was planning to get a fan controller and run it around 5 ! 9v around 1000 to 1500 RPM to reduce the noise.........any experince to share ?? |
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May 18 2007, 08:18 PM
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QUOTE(LExus65 @ May 2 2007, 02:26 PM) anyone using a evercool 120mm led fan....... around 2500RPM push 70 ++ CFM........ it a bit noisy though. any good fan controller to recommend? I actually prefer something at the back of the casing as I want my front bezel as clean as possible.....i was planning to get a fan controller and run it around 5 ! 9v around 1000 to 1500 RPM to reduce the noise.........any experince to share ?? |
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May 18 2007, 10:46 PM
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those aluminium evercool fan i think karom is doing bulk for it..mayb can check it out..a lot of choice also
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May 18 2007, 11:00 PM
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i think that's the aerocool one bro. not evercool.
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May 18 2007, 11:07 PM
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QUOTE(Ryo @ May 18 2007, 11:00 PM) i think that's the aerocool one bro. not evercool. oh..forget d..hahha..malu-nya |
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May 18 2007, 11:43 PM
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Hey guys,
I'm wondering, can i find such PCI fan controller in LY plaza? I want my front bezel as clean as possible...  |
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May 19 2007, 12:04 AM
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QUOTE(blessedvillain @ May 18 2007, 11:43 PM) Hey guys, look nice..but i doubt low yat got sell this...if u manage to find let me know also..heheI'm wondering, can i find such PCI fan controller in LY plaza? I want my front bezel as clean as possible... |
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May 19 2007, 07:52 AM
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Em any suggestion for Led case fan with high CFM? I still searching for that. If can find from Low Yat will be nice.
WTA evercool filter case fan is it the filter will make the CFM low alot? This post has been edited by vincent09: May 19 2007, 11:33 AM |
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May 19 2007, 01:29 PM
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tri blade fan? wat's their advantage over the normal case fan?
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May 19 2007, 01:42 PM
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QUOTE(blessedvillain @ May 19 2007, 01:29 PM) tri blade fan? wat's their advantage over the normal case fan? More CFM with a disadvantage of having alot higher dba |
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May 19 2007, 11:05 PM
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QUOTE([KY) ,May 19 2007, 01:42 PM]More CFM with a disadvantage of having alot higher dba Oh...thank you for the info. All the while, I thought it's the other way round, more blades=more noise. Now I dun even bother bout the hype of tri-blade...This post has been edited by blessedvillain: May 19 2007, 11:06 PM |
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May 23 2007, 01:32 PM
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hey guys..ive got a question..if i wanna remove the leds from a uv led fan that i have, can i just cut the led wires? will that b safe or do i have to do something else? thanks!
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May 23 2007, 01:50 PM
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yeah just cut the wires and make sure the wires dont come in contact with each other or anything else...
thats what i did. |
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May 23 2007, 06:11 PM
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QUOTE(mADmAN @ May 23 2007, 01:50 PM) yeah just cut the wires and make sure the wires dont come in contact with each other or anything else... thanks alot! will try it out soon! for now, ive wrapped the leds with black electrical tape..hehe thats what i did. |
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May 31 2007, 01:00 AM
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The greatest fan of all noise / performance ratio. [to me la, dunno about you guys
]Very low noise, yet, very high CFM's. SilenX iXtrema Pro Fans Official Website: http://www.silenx.com/ixtremaprofans.asp 120X120X38MM - 18dBA - 90CFM   |
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May 31 2007, 01:15 AM
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QUOTE(sHawTY @ May 31 2007, 01:00 AM) The greatest fan of all noise / performance ratio. [to me la, dunno about you guys it is a great fan, but the price ]Very low noise, yet, very high CFM's. SilenX iXtrema Pro Fans Official Website: http://www.silenx.com/ixtremaprofans.asp 120X120X38MM - 18dBA - 90CFM » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « anyway, it's cheaper than scythe s-flex and more CFM!! -adios- |
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May 31 2007, 01:19 AM
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nice fans...sigh~ but where to buy 'em?
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May 31 2007, 01:22 AM
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May 31 2007, 01:23 AM
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care to show the link ?
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May 31 2007, 01:25 AM
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QUOTE(Doom @ May 31 2007, 01:23 AM) care to show the link ? http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=463762&hl= |
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May 31 2007, 05:01 AM
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just noticed a silentx fan bulk. thanks fo the info man
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May 31 2007, 07:50 AM
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wah really good fan they u have, but price also really good too lar........... haha
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May 31 2007, 08:19 AM
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huhuh ....... the price reli too expensive ? I nid try to discuss wif supplier again .....
BTW ...silenX cpu heatsinks oso a nice coolings products |
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May 31 2007, 10:41 AM
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QUOTE(duo8668 @ May 31 2007, 08:19 AM) huhuh ....... the price reli too expensive ? I nid try to discuss wif supplier again ..... ya...the price is slightly on the high side...really wish it is cheaper.BTW ...silenX cpu heatsinks oso a nice coolings products |
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May 31 2007, 11:00 AM
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QUOTE(blessedvillain @ May 31 2007, 10:41 AM) ya...the price is slightly on the high side...really wish it is cheaper. That is reli sry . But for a long life wif 2 years warranty provided ... i think it value more . nvm i try asking for promotion for 120mmx25m series . LED series will b entertained . |
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Jun 13 2007, 08:57 PM
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Hello..newbie question here..it is possible to make fan still running a few more min even after the pc is shutdown..thanks
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Jun 13 2007, 09:06 PM
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Haha..,that would be really cool like some high end modified cars will keep the engine running a while after taking out the key..,but i dunno if there is a way to do that - i doubt it though unless some physical modifications done to motherboard, PSU unit....
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Jun 13 2007, 09:09 PM
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go to all it.. find the product from evercool if not mistaken..
or from moderno bulk.. forget wut;s the thing call.. if car.. it's called turbo timer |
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Jun 13 2007, 09:11 PM
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Jun 13 2007, 09:12 PM
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QUOTE(jepp77 @ Jun 13 2007, 08:57 PM) Hello..newbie question here..it is possible to make fan still running a few more min even after the pc is shutdown..thanks Evercool ECS-GT [Product Link]  Features:
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Jun 13 2007, 09:12 PM
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Jun 13 2007, 09:15 PM
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tu dia 3 reply skali
QUOTE(desmondgasper @ Jun 13 2007, 09:06 PM) Haha..,that would be really cool like some high end modified cars will keep the engine running a while after taking out the key..,but i dunno if there is a way to do that - i doubt it though unless some physical modifications done to motherboard, PSU unit.... haha, guess again |
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Jun 13 2007, 09:17 PM
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Might be possible, I think adding a diode and a large capacitor parallel to the fan circuit would do the trick. Might be a good idea to use a resistor or transistor to regulate the current through the capacitor; helps to prevent excess inrush current, and allows the fan to spin linger though slower.
I'm not sure how much capacitance is needed, but I'm sure it would be at least a few hundred or more likely a few thousand uF. |
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Jun 13 2007, 09:22 PM
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QUOTE(lohwenli @ Jun 13 2007, 09:17 PM) Might be possible, I think adding a diode and a large capacitor parallel to the fan circuit would do the trick. Might be a good idea to use a resistor or transistor to regulate the current through the capacitor; helps to prevent excess inrush current, and allows the fan to spin linger though slower. http://www.evercool.com.tw/products/ecs-gt.htm
I'm not sure how much capacitance is needed, but I'm sure it would be at least a few hundred or more likely a few thousand uF. pepenat je evercool design.. hehehe just buy one, safer... |
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Jun 13 2007, 09:22 PM
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QUOTE(cablesguy @ Jun 13 2007, 09:12 PM) Saw it before, but I was thinking, hey thats pretty easy to do..no need to buy la..basically can just route the 5vsb to the fans with a diode to prevent shorting it with the 12v line. Thing is must mod the 20/24 pin connector or use a pass through adapter. |
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Jun 13 2007, 11:30 PM
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how much is this thing?
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Jun 14 2007, 01:15 AM
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QUOTE(lohwenli @ Jun 13 2007, 09:22 PM) Saw it before, but I was thinking, hey thats pretty easy to do..no need to buy la..basically can just route the 5vsb to the fans with a diode to prevent shorting it with the 12v line. Thing is must mod the 20/24 pin connector or use a pass through adapter. could u explain more detail bout it plss..thanks |
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Jun 14 2007, 11:54 AM
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large capacitor cannot last that long too i think..........120mm fans suck quite some power
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Jun 15 2007, 09:54 PM
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QUOTE(jepp77 @ Jun 14 2007, 01:15 AM) could u explain more detail bout it plss..thanks Easier if you ask him to mod it for you and buy him teh tarik or sth... |
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Jun 15 2007, 11:59 PM
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sifu...want to ask, i bought 2 NBM fans..one is 97cfm another is 130cfm...how can i build a controller for it? i can barely hear myself think x_x...btw, the fans are running on another cap ayam psu as i dont wanna burn my cap ayam psu powering my mobo till i get another psu..and looks dont really matter..so yeah...what can i do? can i use the adjustable resistor like we had in kemahiran hidup last time?
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Jun 16 2007, 11:38 AM
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QUOTE(E-J@1 @ Jun 13 2007, 09:12 PM) Evercool ECS-GT [Product Link] its available in allit, lyp, kinda hidden in the middle but its there... it's a car like device, pricing dunno Features:
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Jun 16 2007, 01:41 PM
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Nonid to waste $ on that gizmo ler. Just do like the turbo cars. After a gaming session is when the rig is hottest. So just shutdown all progs n let teh PC run idle for about 2-3 minutes is enuf d. After 2-3 minutes, the CPU n gfx temps shud be back to normal idle temps b4 shutting down the pc. Those who r running Vista in fact got a free timer. Coz when we hit the Sleep button, everything shutsdown but the fans n everything still running for about 2 minutes while it's saving the state b4 turning off.
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Jun 16 2007, 05:13 PM
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dear mod ianho,
continue from ur king king II worklog, u have posted the specs for the aluminum fans. i wan to ask if compare it with vizo's uv startlet, which one is better in terms of: 1.) air flow? 2.) noise? cuz im not so good in lookin at those terms, dB, cfm thanks! |
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Jun 16 2007, 06:26 PM
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QUOTE(akkmutd0711 @ Jun 16 2007, 05:13 PM) dear mod ianho, those evercool are Way Way Way better than those vizo starlet fans...continue from ur king king II worklog, u have posted the specs for the aluminum fans. i wan to ask if compare it with vizo's uv startlet, which one is better in terms of: 1.) air flow? 2.) noise? cuz im not so good in lookin at those terms, dB, cfm thanks! air flow: Evercool provide more cfm noise: Vizo produce more dB case.closed |
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Jun 18 2007, 09:44 PM
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Silverstones new Bullet Hub Fans
FM123 
FM83 
FN83 
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Jun 18 2007, 11:04 PM
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Any spec of the fan ??? Are u going to get the fans personally cableguy ??
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Jun 19 2007, 01:19 AM
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QUOTE(Doom @ Jun 18 2007, 11:04 PM) Any spec of the fan ??? Are u going to get the fans personally cableguy ?? Aiya was nicely cutting and pasting and arranging the specs but admin had flood control ....anyway the specs can be found HERE, dont think im getting anymore fans atm coz im thinking of getting rid of some of my fans first |
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Jun 19 2007, 01:18 PM
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IS lyp got selling 92mm fan with UV or standard one ?
I found that most popular is 80mm ; 120mm only.. very rare got 92mm fan right ? correct me if wrong |
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Jun 19 2007, 11:49 PM
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should be la available the 92mm fans, maybe gotta sapu whole LYP to look hehe
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Jun 20 2007, 08:27 AM
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92mm fan............uv somemore, i think it's like dinasour in lowyat.......
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Jun 20 2007, 08:40 AM
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QUOTE(Doom @ Jun 18 2007, 11:04 PM) Any spec of the fan ??? Are u going to get the fans personally cableguy ?? FM123 Specifications: http://www.silverstonetek.com/products/p_s...=fm123&area=usaFM83 Specifications: http://www.silverstonetek.com/products/p_s...o=fm83&area=usa FN83 Specifications: http://www.silverstonetek.com/products/p_s...o=fn83&area=usa |
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Jun 20 2007, 08:44 AM
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Silverstones new Bullet Hub Fans
Whats the advantage of Bullet Hub? Silverstone also have a new line of fans around - Suscool. Announced in Computex : http://www.silverstonetek.com/event_show/tw_computex.php Look at the fan section. They are with black frame and blue fins..Come with temperature sensor as well... This post has been edited by akachester: Jun 20 2007, 08:54 AM |
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Jun 20 2007, 10:16 AM
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hmmmm more products mean more choices ... but any one of those new releases fan is made of silent concept ...
I'm more into silent concept but there's really lack of choice in the market ... Some more the cooler on my gc really drive me crazy .. I'm just too sensitive with noise .. |
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Jun 20 2007, 11:26 AM
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QUOTE(Doom @ Jun 20 2007, 10:16 AM) hmmmm more products mean more choices ... but any one of those new releases fan is made of silent concept ... Well, the Suscool from SS really do look promosing. Even the 12cm version is rated to be below the 1k RPM mark and yet, still produce 40+CFM. Dont think the noise level would be too high and with temperature sensor and controller, it would be good..But we still need any confirmation and review first...I'm more into silent concept but there's really lack of choice in the market ... Some more the cooler on my gc really drive me crazy .. I'm just too sensitive with noise .. |
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Jun 20 2007, 12:49 PM
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YA HYAH .... I need more candidates for completing my silent yet powerful but not aggressive rig ,....
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Jun 22 2007, 04:58 AM
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The Silverstone Suscool fans with the blue blades is like the fans I have n told u guys about. It's the 11 blade design that makes it special.Unfortunately the Suscools still only haf 9 blades. It's still better than the normal 7 blade designs though.
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Jun 22 2007, 08:27 AM
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So theoretically it could push more fan at lower spin and lesser noise ??
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Jun 22 2007, 10:42 AM
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QUOTE(Suk @ Jun 19 2007, 01:18 PM) IS lyp got selling 92mm fan with UV or standard one ? For a standard wan, u can get the FM 83 its a 95mm fan with 80mm mounting. With speed control too. But for UV, u'll need to ask for the CMs or Vizos.I found that most popular is 80mm ; 120mm only.. very rare got 92mm fan right ? correct me if wrong |
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Jun 26 2007, 08:12 PM
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hi guys, i need a recommendation on a high cfm 80mm fan.
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Jun 26 2007, 08:47 PM
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@Hungry_Wolf
Delta FFB0812EHE. or the Vizo Windstorm |
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Jul 3 2007, 07:01 PM
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 went to LYP today, saw AllIT sellin this fan for RM35  damn, i just bought Vizo Starlet for RM35 last week at AllIT today, they displayed the fans really angry seeing the price tag, damn cheap for an alu fan then felt disappointed seeing the noise produced by that fan, 39dBA |
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Jul 5 2007, 12:03 AM
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QUOTE(E-J@1 @ Jul 3 2007, 07:01 PM) went to LYP today, saw AllIT sellin this fan for RM35 damn, i just bought Vizo Starlet for RM35 last week at AllIT today, they displayed the fans really angry seeing the price tag, damn cheap for an alu fan then felt disappointed seeing the noise produced by that fan, 39dBA |
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