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post Apr 5 2007, 07:41 PM

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Ok guys, this might be asked a tons of times but i really hope you guys can help me answer the question here.

First of all, i needed to know, actually in what direction should fans in a casing be blowing?I mean for all the fans such as front, rear, side, top etc. Is there any specific way that fix which way a fan should blow?Thanks alot..
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post Apr 5 2007, 10:27 PM

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QUOTE(vincent09 @ Apr 5 2007, 08:47 PM)
Em  may i ask is it those dust fliter for fans is come with the fan when buy or can just direct buy the fliter ?
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I seldom see fans that come together with filter..But i do need to find filter for myself.Not sure where to get them though..
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post Apr 6 2007, 09:31 AM

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Even when my current C5 comes with a small thin layer of sponge at the front panel, dust is still unavoidable. Its still very dusty especially the fan.Thats why i am trying to find a better solution in this problem..
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post Apr 14 2007, 11:54 PM

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QUOTE(z3r0717 @ Apr 5 2007, 08:28 PM)
Front = Intake (IN)
Rear = Exhaust (OUT)
Side = Intake (IN)
Top = Exhaust (OUT)
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Will there be any wrong if is switch the top fan from exhaust into intake?I mean is that way going to influence the temperature?
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post Apr 15 2007, 09:58 AM

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QUOTE(E-J@1 @ Apr 15 2007, 04:35 AM)
the best way is too do a trial & error test, see which setup produce the best result nod.gif

some say the top fan is best for intake & some say its for exhaust...

just a bit tiring la, have to remount the fan again & again & again...

but when u got the best result of it, u will using the setup like FOREVER laugh.gif
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So, the way that i would know would be changing the position and check the temperature?I will change it to exhaust and see as my current LL front and rear isnt performing up to expectation.Silent but bad preasure...Need to change the front to Noctua and rear to SS..
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post Apr 15 2007, 01:13 PM

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QUOTE(Kataro @ Apr 15 2007, 12:35 PM)
huhu...2 Noctua as front intake?  brows.gif coz see you wanna order 2 Noctua fan at irangan bulk there... me too wanna get 2 Noctua fan as intake...already have Silverstone FM-121 at rear...wanna see how much it can help for my case air flow...  drool.gif
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Nah, not really.Might keep it when i needed another front intake or maybe convert it to a side intake if i am going to get myself a side panel for LL. For now, i am planning to get a Noctua as front intake and a SS FM121 as the rear. Already have the SS FM82 as top exhaust. But i am surely running those SS fan at merely half of their speed as its really too noisy to my liking.Hopefully even at half speed, its still able to provide me a good cooling solution and air flow...
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post Apr 15 2007, 05:08 PM

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Ok, guys..

As recommended, i did change the top fan (FM82) in my case from intake to exhaust just now.After about 1 hour+ in a closed room (door closed, only a single window is opened), i am starting to sweat.lol...Then, when i checked with PC Wizard regarding the temperature, it has risen to a crazy 53c on idle. As far as i could remember from my C5 days, it will barely touch the 50c mark..

Then, i changed back to intake and currently, the temperature is about 45c. What might be the problem here?

I tried to experiment myself regarding this problem and found out a few possibilty.

Could this be the problem of using those silent but poor LL case fan as front intake and exhaust causing the air intake to be poor?I mean, those fan are really really poor.I could barely feel the air when i put my hands near those fans..

And not to mention, the LL case came together with fan filters. Would these filters be blocking the air flow of the case?

Now, i guess i desperately need to get myself the SS and Noctua to get better airflow if the fans are the problems..

QUOTE(Kataro @ Apr 15 2007, 05:03 PM)
at half speed (1200rpm) you will hardly heard any sound from it... but the air flow is not that great... from my testing just now... the noise level for 1200rpm and 1600rpm is not much different but the air flow will be a bit bigger for 1600rpm...so you can try play around at that level... not necessary to run it at half speed as I notice the temp will higher 1-3C in my case if I turn it to 1200rpm...which is not so good for my Pentium D...maybe during cold weather can turn it to half speed or even below 1000rpm... maybe for your casing will be different from mine lor coz you are using LL casing now... and you have FM82 as top exhaust...I only have FM-121 as rear exhaust... icon_rolleyes.gif
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Ok.Thanks for the info there..I just realise about something here.When i changed the position of my FM82 from intake to exhaust, the noise level was actually lower even at full speed.When it was as an exhaust, the noise level was tolerable with me but when it was as an intake, man, its almost unbearable.Too noisy there..Thats why i was running it at 1/2 speed.In this case, if the FM121 wasnt that noisy, i could tolerate it running at full speed though...

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post Apr 16 2007, 09:02 AM

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QUOTE(Kataro @ Apr 15 2007, 10:05 PM)
I think the temp will drop to 45C when you put the FM82 as intake is because the cool air will directly go thru your Zalman CPU cooler there (in case the top blow hole is at the top of processor area there) and then exhaust thru the rear exhaust and PSU fan... when you put the FM82 as exhaust, the cool air from the front intake is not enough to cool down the whole case as it will pass thru hdd then go up, then will exhaust at rear exhasut, PSU fan and FM82, so the air flow is a bit messy inside your casing because your rear exhaust fan is not storng enough... icon_rolleyes.gif

If you change your rear fan to FM-121, and your front intake to Noctua fan, then the condtion maybe different a bit...coz the FM-121 will be strong enough to push out the hot air and the Noctua fan will bring enough cool air in too... thumbup.gif  so, the hot air at the top near the PSU and cable there will be able to exhaust by the FM82... icon_rolleyes.gif

Anyway, this is just my opinion and estimation...I might be wrong...so please correct me if I am wrong so that I can learn too... me too still trying to make my rig cooler... icon_rolleyes.gif  laugh.gif
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Great idea here.I will definitely try this out when i get my hands on two good fans for my front intake and exhaust.I am still considering something more silent but pushes enough air as well..

QUOTE(Skylinestar @ Apr 15 2007, 11:05 PM)
make sure u change the rear fan mesh filter to those ring type ones. air can flow easier. the front filter is up to u. i changed mine to uglyvamps's filter. the default LL filter has holes that are just to big to be a filter. if u ditch the filter, u get better airflow. but dust.............
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Well, the fan filter mesh that came with my PC-7 have really tiny holes.I am not sure what other filter does LL have by mine as like an aluminium plate which has really small holes. And my best guess is that these tiny holes are somewhat blocking the airflow of my already poor LL fan.I am inclined to take out the filters as dust is a really big problem to me..Now, i need to search for a better fan as well as a better filter..
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post Apr 16 2007, 10:32 AM

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QUOTE(Kataro @ Apr 16 2007, 09:57 AM)
Yeah, try it out and post the result here to share... icon_rolleyes.gif

Change your filter to uglyvamps's filter too lor...I think this filter will be better than the LL aluminium filter as the air block by uglyvamps's filter is lesser than the aluminium filter... just my 2 cents... icon_rolleyes.gif
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If you could PM me the links to uglyvamp's filter, that will be great as i cant seem to find them.Thanks..

Anyway, just wondering, do u use the fan controller of the FM121?If you do, where do u place the controller at?Is the cable long enough to connect the fan located in rear with the controller located at floopy bay?
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post Jun 20 2007, 08:44 AM

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Silverstones new Bullet Hub Fans

Whats the advantage of Bullet Hub?

Silverstone also have a new line of fans around - Suscool.

Announced in Computex :

http://www.silverstonetek.com/event_show/tw_computex.php

Look at the fan section. They are with black frame and blue fins..Come with temperature sensor as well...

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post Jun 20 2007, 11:26 AM

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QUOTE(Doom @ Jun 20 2007, 10:16 AM)
hmmmm more products mean more choices ... but any one of those new releases fan is made of silent concept ...

I'm more into silent concept but there's really lack of choice in the market ...

Some more the cooler on my gc really drive me crazy .. I'm just too sensitive with noise ..
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Well, the Suscool from SS really do look promosing. Even the 12cm version is rated to be below the 1k RPM mark and yet, still produce 40+CFM. Dont think the noise level would be too high and with temperature sensor and controller, it would be good..But we still need any confirmation and review first...
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post Nov 6 2007, 09:50 AM

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QUOTE(Fantasty_Jackie @ Nov 6 2007, 09:25 AM)
Here any forumer got sell Noctua Fan kah ?
Wht the price of NF-P12
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Ah, which leads to....

Somebody bring back bro Irangan...LOL..The Noctua fans look cool... rclxms.gif
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post Nov 6 2007, 12:29 PM

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QUOTE(sHawTY @ Nov 6 2007, 10:20 AM)
You mean the NF-P12?
Yes indeed the new fan from 120MM Noctua look cool. biggrin.gif

The old Noctua 120MM fan [NF-S12] is freaking ugly. sweat.gif
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But it really performs and silent..LOL...

Seriously, Noctua is very good in designing good fans. The first one have a weird shape but its really really good. This second one is really beautiful as well...

The designers are really really creative and unique.. smile.gif
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post Nov 7 2007, 09:22 AM

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QUOTE(irangan @ Nov 6 2007, 09:05 PM)
lol.... Like I always said, if there is a enough demand for it. I can bring it in anytime smile.gif

P.S.: I am interested to get few for myself too. Hehe.. 54cfm at 19dba. Very interesting
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Haha..Bro, if you are going to bring it in, trust me, many people will get it from you.LOL...

It was last time where people are complaining about the Noctua fans being too expensive at RM60 but when you bring it in, the response was tremendous.

The policy is always there - Good things are always worthy to pay a premium price..LOL....

Anyway, does alu fans bring any significant advantage besides it being beautiful?

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post Nov 7 2007, 01:51 PM

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QUOTE(E-J@1 @ Nov 7 2007, 12:13 PM)
if talking bout those Evercool Alu fans drool.gif

damn, u want significant

1. 80cfm brows.gif
2. easy cleaning = the fan blades can be dis-attach from its frame
3. look kewl, LOL

let's not compare with those hi-performance fans whistling.gif
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QUOTE(ianho @ Nov 7 2007, 12:40 PM)
4. The heavy weight of the fan's alu frame kills the vibrations. It doesnt vibrate like normal plastic fans.
5. If u use the alu fan on a tower heatsink like the Thermalrights, the alu frame also acts as extra heatsink coz the heat from the fins can transfer to the alu frame.
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Wow...Seems impressive. How much does those cost anyway?Are the evercool ones only one that is easily available around?
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post Nov 12 2007, 09:58 AM

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Anyone here knows where can i get good 70mm fans around?Needed one to replace my current Opteron Stock Cooler just to test whether the performance increases or not..

Or would is there any other recommendation besides changing cooler? I already have the a Zalman cooler but just wanted to test the Opteron cooler and see whether its better or not...
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QUOTE(Doom @ Nov 12 2007, 04:36 PM)
Go All IT they sells Evercool 70mm fan ... less than Rm30 for sure .

Anyway if u need a stronger fan then probably have to look into bulk order or garage sales for fan ... there's one thread I think its run by AllnGap or Bombman that sells lots of fans ..
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Great. I was looking into several option but most of the fans around are 80mm ones, particularly those good ones. Maybe i should dig up those thread and see how.

And i wonder would there be any Alu 70mm fans.. tongue.gif

I was about to get a converter, from 70mm to 80mm but the heatsink itself does not allow screws. So, there is no choice. Probably i need to get something better than my current Fatal1ty with budget constraint.LOL...
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QUOTE(Fantasty_Jackie @ Nov 19 2007, 07:21 PM)
Hey all guys~ i just found a pretty fan , performance not bad~ got sell in malaysia ?  biggrin.gif

Link
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This is one nice looking fan. Is it available here? I am interested as well..LOL..

They even have Noctua's rubber pin thingy that prevents vibration. LOL...
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post Jan 7 2008, 07:24 AM

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By any chance anyone knows where can i get Arctic Cooling fans here in Malaysia? And any one knows whether i could get thin, low profile 120mm fans around?
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CoolerMaster Anti-Dust Fans

Now, this is going to make cleaning easier. If they are good though. smile.gif

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