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TSAkimoto Shun
post Dec 8 2006, 06:23 AM, updated 19y ago

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I am offered a job as a fresh grad entry level programmer in this company. Is there anybody around who has been/currently working in this company who can share their experience here?...

really hope to know whether there will be a good prospect here... unsure.gif
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post Dec 8 2006, 08:34 AM

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post Dec 8 2006, 08:55 AM

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QUOTE(Akimoto Shun @ Dec 8 2006, 06:23 AM)
I am offered a job as a fresh grad entry level programmer in this company.  Is there anybody around who has been/currently working in this company who can share their experience here?...

really hope to know whether there will be a good prospect here...  unsure.gif
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if you are working @ Technology Park Bkt Jalil @ Scope then dont waste your time there. the working environment sucks

i have a personal friend in there. just waiting for the bonus before cabuting... tongue.gif
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post Dec 8 2006, 12:09 PM

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I am working near Asia Jaya@PJ... IT Support Center for the Asia Region...

Anybody more who can share their experience... feel like dropping into a danger zone...
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post Dec 8 2006, 12:50 PM

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i just went for interview at Scope International on last Saturday.
As a fresh graduate without experience, don't be choosy
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QUOTE(mi_kit49 @ Dec 8 2006, 12:50 PM)
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i just went for interview at Scope International on last Saturday.
As a fresh graduate without experience, don't be choosy
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not necessary. since you are going for interview go to a few more before deciding. there is always choices.
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post Dec 8 2006, 02:40 PM

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first of all, is the offer job meet "what" u looking?
then package ok?...but since u r a fresh....so what u want at first , that ur personal point la.....if ngam then juz grab it la..not wat u wan then juz look for other, u still so young....many thing and many time for u to learn....
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post Dec 8 2006, 10:34 PM

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I actually applied this job bcoz I am thinking that since it is a IT support centre that support almoz half the world, I would hav better chance to get expose to more new technologies... more programming skills... more mainframe... or.... jz more lar...

As a fresh graduate, I am offered rm2k, they said it is standard for all freshie in their company... is it ok in this industry for a newbie?...

But I know anyther company that offer rm2200, but the company is smaller ( i think so ), i m worried that in the future, I will get limited to a few skills only... Does my thinking make sense?...




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post Dec 8 2006, 10:54 PM

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its oki la....support work and since u freshie, better start sumwer
but my life in scope had been a nitemare...horror story, but it was becoz of the project i was involved in, else its alrite ler. Since u r in support, life will be ok ler....furthermore, working environment not bad, people are nice and all...
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post Dec 8 2006, 11:23 PM

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mIssfROGY, u worked b4 in scope@pj?

but this job come wif a 2 year contract... jz hope to consider properly and not to regret afterward...
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post Dec 9 2006, 10:21 AM

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How about this, get inside and try out the environment first. You can cabut 24 hour b4 you sign that confirm letter which lock you for 2 yrs contract.

At least you have something great to write in your resume for your next job if you dont like the current one. "Oh man, I worked in scope International, subsidiary of StardardCharted !"
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post Dec 10 2006, 12:40 AM

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QUOTE(Akimoto Shun @ Dec 8 2006, 11:23 PM)
mIssfROGY, u worked b4 in scope@pj?

but this job come wif a 2 year contract... jz hope to consider properly and not to regret afterward...
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Better make up your mind before signing 2 years contract. Some of my friends say its a living nightmare in there. Come to work at 9am, leave at 8pm, do offsite support from 10pm to 6am, and go to work again at 9am. I really kesian see my friend like that.. work so much until he sick. Worst of all, he's tied for two years. Also remember you will be servicing other countries and they expect results and response. No Malaysian attitude "today apa", "tomolo do lah", "sien lar" kind of attitude. They will tembak you kaw kaw if they see this attitude.

Depends lar, if young and heavy duty no problem, a very good place to pick up knowledge. But if you hope to go back before 7pm everyday, look somewhere else.
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post Dec 10 2006, 12:45 AM

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Prospect according to my mates is very very very good. But prepare to work your ass off and absorb knowledge like a sponge, else they will hand your ass back to you. According to them, some depts are even more hardcode and gila than citibank.. so you get the picture lar..
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I just called my friend to yam cha tomolo. He say can't cos he went back office today, and has to go back office tomolo also... shocking.gif
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post Dec 10 2006, 01:07 AM

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The receptionist at Phase 1 is my chic...dun pray pray...hahaha...

Wish good morning to Siew Ping for me...
Please smile and greet her a very good morning.
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post Dec 10 2006, 11:55 PM

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QUOTE(Akimoto Shun @ Dec 8 2006, 11:23 PM)
mIssfROGY, u worked b4 in scope@pj?

but this job come wif a 2 year contract... jz hope to consider properly and not to regret afterward...
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yeap, its a 2 yers contract, goto be prepared coz u will be tied down. And yups...me worked in pj branch. Dunno about other projects, but the one that i was in, 8pm, its DEM EARLY, 11pm is just nice but better stay if u can still work. I worked be4 20hours straight (few times) and still gotto go back to work few hours later, 5 weeks non-stop no sat n sun off...and u name it i have done it. And yes, its definately worse than citibank manz....gawd it made citibank a heaven to work in compared to this place. (but again, it really depends on the proj you are workin on, my proj was the only one like this at that time) btw, oredi 4 team members left this proj so far....as in quit the bank)
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QUOTE(mIssfROGY @ Dec 10 2006, 11:55 PM)
yeap, its a 2 yers contract, goto be prepared coz u will be tied down. And yups...me worked in pj branch. Dunno about other projects, but the one that i was in, 8pm, its DEM EARLY, 11pm is just nice but better stay if u can still work. I worked be4 20hours straight (few times) and still gotto go back to work few hours later, 5 weeks non-stop no sat n sun off...and u name it i have done it. And yes, its definately worse than citibank manz....gawd it made citibank a heaven to work in compared to this place. (but again, it really depends on the proj you are workin on, my proj was the only one like this at that time) btw, oredi 4 team members left this proj so far....as in quit the bank)
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Miss Frogy, you were in ccms?
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post Dec 11 2006, 11:13 PM

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QUOTE(mIssfROGY @ Dec 10 2006, 11:55 PM)
yeap, its a 2 yers contract, goto be prepared coz u will be tied down. And yups...me worked in pj branch. Dunno about other projects, but the one that i was in, 8pm, its DEM EARLY, 11pm is just nice but better stay if u can still work. I worked be4 20hours straight (few times) and still gotto go back to work few hours later, 5 weeks non-stop no sat n sun off...and u name it i have done it. And yes, its definately worse than citibank manz....gawd it made citibank a heaven to work in compared to this place. (but again, it really depends on the proj you are workin on, my proj was the only one like this at that time) btw, oredi 4 team members left this proj so far....as in quit the bank)
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ya... wat is the penalty actually?... how much is it?... do u know it?...

I really need to say "warr!" doh.gif ... Although I expect long time working hours for IT job.... but i din't expect it to be everyday.... haha...mayb i m too 'fresh'!... then, is there actually personal time ??? ya... does this situation happen from day 1??? or after sometime of working...

Then, how often actually will the salary increase since it is so suffering!!?? blink.gif

mIssfROGY, can i ask?... what actually did u learn here?... Is it a lot and the suffering is quite worth it... or is it totally "crap" and believe that there is other places that can provide better starting point for fresh graduate to work and learn at the same time...
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QUOTE(billytong @ Dec 9 2006, 10:21 AM)
How about this, get inside and try out the environment first. You can cabut 24 hour b4 you sign that confirm letter which lock you for 2 yrs contract.

At least you have something great to write in your resume for your next  job if you dont like the current one. "Oh man, I worked in scope International, subsidiary of StardardCharted !"
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cabut lio still can write so ???!!!

In fact, I am really given 24 hrs to try first b4 signing the confirm letter???...
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QUOTE(Akimoto Shun @ Dec 11 2006, 11:13 PM)
ya... wat is the penalty actually?... how much is it?... do u know it?... 

I really need to say "warr!" doh.gif ... Although I expect long time working hours for IT job.... but i din't expect it to be everyday.... haha...mayb i m too 'fresh'!... then, is there actually personal time ??? ya... does this situation happen from day 1??? or after sometime of working...

Then, how often actually will the salary increase since it is so suffering!!??  blink.gif

mIssfROGY, can i ask?... what actually did u learn here?... Is it a lot and the suffering is quite worth it... or is it totally "crap" and believe that there is other places that can provide better starting point for fresh graduate to work and learn at the same time...
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From what I heard, it's almost half a year salary... don't even think of cabut.
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Hmm, I thought the Crystal Plaza place was ISCM only? o.o

You didn't really give specifics so i'm assuming you got offered a job with IT365? That company is basically just tech support. ISCM is more for systems development and programming.

Anyway if ISCM I'd say go, IT365 I'd say don't go. Call centre is =_=; and you don't learn anything useful. I mean ... you'd learn how to trouble shoot a bunch of proprietary systems that are used in Stanchart and nowhere else ... and 2 year contract? zzzzzz.

On the other hand, the PJ office got quite a lot of hot chinese chicks biggrin.gif
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Hmm, I thought the Crystal Plaza place was ISCM only? o.o

You didn't really give specifics so i'm assuming you got offered a job with IT365? That company is basically just tech support. ISCM is more for systems development and programming.

Anyway if ISCM I'd say go, IT365 I'd say don't go. Call centre is =_=; and you don't learn anything useful. I mean ... you'd learn how to trouble shoot a bunch of proprietary systems that are used in Stanchart and nowhere else ... and 2 year contract? zzzzzz.

On the other hand, the PJ office got quite a lot of hot chinese chicks biggrin.gif
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I dunno what the PJ branch call... coz havnt started yet.... but there is where i am offered a job and gone for interview...

If so, is it still so horrible as our fren b4 said so... ?
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I work in the TPM office, in banking ops, so I really wouldn't know how good/bad the working conditions are over in the PJ side (which is purely IT).

"Horrible" is pretty relative, though ... I mean, I work 10-11hours a day, which seems horrible, but then I also have friends in CIMB and E&Y who have lunch AND dinner at the office every day ...
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Looks like you'll be situated in Menara Axis, got some friends in there, some in support, some in project development. For support it should be a very nice job as unlike development you dont have a deadline, but from time to time you'll need to be on call. But since you're a fresh grad, I doubt they expect you to fix all problems, most likely as a first level support and forward more complex problems to seniors or to the developers. Scope as a company has a lot of benefits compared to other sdn bhd out there since its actually part of stan chart bank, you'll get all the employee benefits as well like lower loan rates. Your probability of getting bonus is good as well unlike a lot of chinamen companies. I'd say its a good place to learn and network for a fresh grad.
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scope international also has several offshore jobs
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post Dec 12 2006, 07:05 PM

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QUOTE(am_eniey @ Dec 12 2006, 07:04 PM)
scope international also has several offshore jobs
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u mean the one in lahad datu?
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nope....in the oil and gas sector
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post Dec 12 2006, 07:41 PM

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nope....in the oil and gas sector
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?...scope involved in both sector oso?
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QUOTE(darun @ Dec 12 2006, 05:18 PM)
Looks like you'll be situated in Menara Axis, got some friends in there, some in support, some in project development.  For support it should be a very nice job as unlike development you dont have a deadline, but from time to time you'll need to be on call.  But since you're a fresh grad, I doubt they expect you to fix all problems, most likely as a first level support and forward more complex problems to seniors or to the developers.  Scope as a company has a lot of benefits compared to other sdn bhd out there since its actually part of stan chart bank, you'll get all the employee benefits as well like lower loan rates.  Your probability of getting bonus is good as well unlike a lot of chinamen companies.  I'd say its a good place to learn and network for a fresh grad.
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Support is worst than development. I ask 5 of my friends there, 100% will agree. During support, you are basically Rambo at night. If the program KO, and you make mistake, it will cost the bank alot of $$$$. Also the next day when they do post mortem, you will be in spotlight. According to them, they always ask who is interested to do support, almost everyone will start running away. He also very kesian, cos he doing support, user always will call support and hentam kaw kaw...
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QUOTE(bumz @ Dec 12 2006, 08:34 PM)
Support is worst than development.
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I think I will agree, not just in Scope but in all other IT firms.

I dunno, maybe it's cos I worked 3 year part-time while studying as Unix helpdesk ... made me totally and utterly hate anything to do with customer support/helpdesk/etc.
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QUOTE(deodorant @ Dec 12 2006, 11:15 PM)
I think I will agree, not just in Scope but in all other IT firms.

I dunno, maybe it's cos I worked 3 year part-time while studying as Unix helpdesk ... made me totally and utterly hate anything to do with customer support/helpdesk/etc.
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Actually its quite simple. In development, if the project is a success, you will get all the glory and praises.

But in support, if you solve a problem, most likely you will not get any glory because the nature of the work is a problem to be solved...

I've seen before, although development sometimes got deadline, support also got deadline to solve a problem. But in development you have a team to back you up, support you need to be more independant.
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QUOTE(bumz @ Dec 12 2006, 08:34 PM)
Support is worst than development. I ask 5 of my friends there, 100% will agree. During support, you are basically Rambo at night. If the program KO, and you make mistake, it will cost the bank alot of $$$$. Also the next day when they do post mortem, you will be in spotlight. According to them, they always ask who is interested to do support, almost everyone will start running away. He also very kesian, cos he doing support, user always will call support and hentam kaw kaw...
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Sounds totally different then what my friend is telling me, she's supporting their internet/mobile banking application and most of the time she doesnt have anyting much to do. They rotate on call according to her. Any serious problems that she cannot fix she will forward to the developers/vendors and she is not even a fresh grad but an intermediate level.

By the way, this is software support, not technical/hardware/system support. 2 very different things. Perhaps the poster should enlighten us on which type of support he/she is actually interviewing.
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QUOTE(darun @ Dec 13 2006, 11:06 AM)
Sounds totally different then what my friend is telling me, she's supporting their internet/mobile banking application and most of the time she doesnt have anyting much to do.  They rotate on call according to her.  Any serious problems that she cannot fix she will forward to the developers/vendors and she is not even a fresh grad but an intermediate level. 

By the way, this is software support, not technical/hardware/system support.  2 very different things.  Perhaps the poster should enlighten us on which type of support he/she is actually interviewing.
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Ya its two different things. If it is mainframe support, it's totally different story. I think poster should specify if he is mainframe or non-mainframe support.
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hello..im a newbie here..came across of this topic recently..
i hv just joined scope (pj branch) for 1 month plus. so far everything has been good.
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Miss Frogy, you were in ccms?
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QUOTE(Akimoto Shun @ Dec 11 2006, 11:13 PM)
ya... wat is the penalty actually?... how much is it?... do u know it?... 

I really need to say "warr!" doh.gif ... Although I expect long time working hours for IT job.... but i din't expect it to be everyday.... haha...mayb i m too 'fresh'!... then, is there actually personal time ??? ya... does this situation happen from day 1??? or after sometime of working...

Then, how often actually will the salary increase since it is so suffering!!??  blink.gif

mIssfROGY, can i ask?... what actually did u learn here?... Is it a lot and the suffering is quite worth it... or is it totally "crap" and believe that there is other places that can provide better starting point for fresh graduate to work and learn at the same time...
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I really dunno about your penalty becoz my contract is not same as yours smile.gif
But one thing is...i learn more things there in 3 months than i did in 1 year..hohooh!
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QUOTE(deodorant @ Dec 12 2006, 12:35 AM)
Hmm, I thought the Crystal Plaza place was ISCM only? o.o

You didn't really give specifics so i'm assuming you got offered a job with IT365? That company is basically just tech support. ISCM is more for systems development and programming.

Anyway if ISCM I'd say go, IT365 I'd say don't go. Call centre is =_=; and you don't learn anything useful. I mean ... you'd learn how to trouble shoot a bunch of proprietary systems that are used in Stanchart and nowhere else ... and 2 year contract? zzzzzz.

On the other hand, the PJ office got quite a lot of hot chinese chicks biggrin.gif
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i know the receptionist quite chun chic....
then another one is this aged manager.....but she looks dem hot too!! wub.gif
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i was in scope as a graduate trainee too.
what deodorant said is reli true. forget about IT365. If ISCM still can consider.

last time i was doin develpment and support at the same time.
need to meet deadline for releases and also need to solve prod issue at the same time.


If you are doing support, you will definitely gett call in the early hours. Prepare to cancel your weekend outing when u r on support.

Environment-wise is good though and the ppl there are friendly.

might as well join them for 6mnth. Then only make up your mind after u have a clear picture of wat u r getting into.



QUOTE(mIssfROGY @ Dec 13 2006, 11:44 PM)
i know the receptionist quite chun chic....
then another one is this aged manager.....but she looks dem hot too!!  wub.gif
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I think i noe who u referring to.. whistling.gif

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To the OP, take up the offer at ISCM. It will do u a lot of good, not just for yourself but for your resume too.

BTW, yes ISCM does has a decent number of nice chics. Quite decent considering it's a pure IT environment. So take that as a bonus if you get extra motivation from that.
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ahhaa...so now chics are the new form of motivation for a job.....wat happened to the I LURVE MY JOBBBB?? So this job shd be haven for chics too....coz filled wif guys...AHAH!!
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QUOTE(mIssfROGY @ Dec 21 2006, 12:39 PM)
ahhaa...so now chics are the new form of motivation for a job.....wat happened to the I LURVE MY JOBBBB?? So this job shd be haven for chics too....coz filled wif guys...AHAH!!
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Hey hey guys....enough of those chics thing, dont try to motivate me to go in there. wub.gif

Honestly speaking, with chics going around as ur college, it is hard to concentrate and normally ur productivity will goes down.
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QUOTE(billytong @ Dec 21 2006, 03:36 PM)
Hey hey guys....enough of those chics thing, dont try to motivate me to go in there. wub.gif 

Honestly speaking, with chics going around as ur college, it is hard to concentrate and normally ur productivity will goes down.
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Chicks is not a motivating factor le.. most of them either are taken, or above mid 20s oledy...
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QUOTE(bumz @ Dec 21 2006, 10:09 PM)
Chicks is not a motivating factor le.. most of them either are taken, or above mid 20s oledy...
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wassup wif above mid 20ssss?? I am offended mad.gif vmad.gif biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(mIssfROGY @ Dec 21 2006, 10:13 PM)
wassup wif above mid 20ssss?? I am  offended  mad.gif  vmad.gif  biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(scud @ Dec 21 2006, 11:15 PM)
nth wrong if u ask me  sweat.gif

but y are u offended?? whistling.gif
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QUOTE(mIssfROGY @ Dec 22 2006, 11:51 AM)
HAHAHAH!! for fun,....meery xmass!
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merry x'mas!!

but i'll probly be spending x'mas nite at work..
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Anyone got any idea bout this team who is doing Online Internet banking stuff in Scope? In term of job wise, stress level, ppl in the team... etc. btw, what is ISCM?

btw, Shell script is it easy to catch up? is it something like any other procedural programming language?

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Online internet banking is i-Banking....that's all there is.
I know there were some new projects coming in for that...6 months back.
Job wise?...normal...crunch time mostly. It's banking lah....
stress level?...no stress on me...doesn't bother me...then again, I quit already....
ppl in the team?...some good some bad....who knows?..changes all the time.

ISCM - International Standard Chartered MAlaysia.?ahhaahha....

shell script?...it's IBM's AIX...if you don't have scripting background, it's gonna be tough. It's just any other software language in UNIX level.

You're gonna need more SQL skills than shell most of the time.....
This is mid-range projects....

Mainframes are COBOLs...haahahah....you get to meet... hulk "Hogan"!.

I want to poison all the fish in the stupid aquarium tanks there....

Eh,...some of the chics leng lui mah.....but i know mostly are pregnant womens around these days...
haahahah....

IT-365?...yeah, i make a lot of calls there...becoz my stupid PC always lock up for no reason!....but nice people...at least I don't need to scream...just open ticket.


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Which "Hogan"? IDS/Payment/ODS?
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QUOTE(finkl1 @ Mar 31 2007, 03:59 AM)

IT-365?...yeah, i make a lot of calls there...becoz my stupid PC always lock up for no reason!....but nice people...at least I don't need to scream...just open ticket.
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thank you for calling ITSC. rclxm9.gif

why i need to thank people for calling me ??? rclxub.gif

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next time record it and play it when u take live call in lor
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i went for an interview last tuesday at Scope.. done my 1st n 2nd interview on the same day.. btw.. whats the salary range there for 2 years experience people? anyone can answer? hehe
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i heard scope is providing free dinner thru intranet everyday. very good
Their boss oso kau kau. >3 months.
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QUOTE(cheahcl82 @ Mar 31 2007, 04:24 AM)
thank you for calling ITSC. rclxm9.gif

why i need to thank people for calling me ??? rclxub.gif
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they are ur customers f00, lol

it is because of them, you have a job there smile.gif

ITSC, this is ABC, need sumthing?

hahahaha simplifying means easier work life

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QUOTE(finkl1 @ Mar 31 2007, 03:59 AM)
shell script?...it's IBM's AIX...if you don't have scripting background, it's gonna be tough. It's just any other software language in UNIX level.

You're gonna need more SQL skills than shell most of the time.....
This is mid-range projects....

Mainframes are COBOLs...haahahah....you get to meet... hulk "Hogan"!.
sigh, don't think I will enjoy this type of role... Tak Nak programming~
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hi, roughly wat is the starting pay for fresh grad in Scope International??

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This Friday got Snack Day or not huh?....i wanna skip lunch and come to ex-office for free makan only.....4.30pm as usual ah?....

should have Abalone soup, shark fin dessert and Haegan Dazs for a change...not enuff ask the Pakistani manager to open the ATM vault at Phase One to buy lah.....

hahahaha....

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Wondering working in Scope (PJ) can online chatting or surfnet?
If cannot boring till drop dead ...... tongue.gif

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QUOTE(LemonTea @ Apr 26 2007, 03:17 PM)
Wondering working in Scope (PJ) can online chatting or surfnet? 
If cannot boring till drop dead ...... tongue.gif
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My friend there says most messengers are blocked, except Skype (which I use to chat with him).

Browsing net is permissible from what I heard, although I dont know if it is full access, they might block most sites. But I know you can browse to places like Sun's website for resources on Java.
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wah. need to block or not? like that no fun lar. luckily my company can surf wutever u like. even access back home's PC remotely. no firewall tongue.gif

may be u all shud try www.meebo.com but i guess this happening chatting site sure blocked. tongue.gif
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cabut lio still can write so ???!!!

In fact, I am really given 24 hrs to try first b4 signing the confirm letter???...
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QUOTE(darun @ Apr 26 2007, 04:30 PM)
My friend there says most messengers are blocked, except Skype (which I use to chat with him).

Browsing net is permissible from what I heard, although I dont know if it is full access, they might block most sites.  But I know you can browse to places like Sun's website for resources on Java.
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They have a few proxies, check the proxy on those mates u noticed surfing if you can't ask for one LOL.

Yea certain sites are still blocked.
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SCB uses Websense for their internet blocking. Most sites are ok, they only really block webmail, porn, games, friendster-type sites and fileplanet-type sites. Sports and all that normally ok.
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How abt the Bonus for Developer Position?? how many months bonus...?
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blek. now only i know the existence of this thread. comon, report in scope staffs! identify yourselves.
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Do you guys really have to sign a contract to work with them?

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i'm not sure, but since last year, there has been a change, as in staff requires a 3 months notice period.
You can see why they wish to enforce this, when you are there...but I still carry a month period, since I was one of them that was hired a few years back.....Now?...no more..hahahaha...I sudah quit, becoz Snack Day too fattening.


btw, does Siew Ping has a boyfriend already?...anyone knows?...i wanna KOW her.
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Do you guys really have to sign a contract to work with them?

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I have no idea. I work there, not their staffs.

QUOTE(finkl1 @ Jul 5 2007, 01:15 PM)
i'm not sure, but since last year, there has been a change, as in staff requires a 3 months notice period.
You can see why they wish to enforce this, when you are there...but I still carry a month period, since I was one of them that was hired a few years back.....Now?...no more..hahahaha...I sudah quit, becoz Snack Day too fattening.
btw, does Siew Ping has a boyfriend already?...anyone knows?...i wanna KOW her.
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How i know she got bf anot lol. You come and ask her la.hahaha.
last time ure from which team?

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you all work at Crystal Plaza there right ?
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Eh...kenot disclose identity mah....but I give hint that worked with blardy Private Banking Singapore on my last project...have to talk "fai wah" with Hongkie IS team everyday....

Cantonese improved....Working skill decreased. hahahaha...

Eh, dun kow my Siew Ping man.....everytime I see her, I wanna touch her "SK2" soft snowy face....ahhaha....

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thumbup.gif You all can surf net? There's relatively few bankers here, i believe its because bankers dont have internet access at work? Correct me sweat.gif
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Is it hard to even get an interview from Scope?

I've applied back 2 months ago with my insider friend helping me
to forward it to HR department. I have near 3 years of programming
working experience with me, but what i've mastered are not languages
used by mainstream IT companies around....

I'm not sure whether i should give it another try since i saw
SCOPE is mass hiring right now again...Should i keep knocking the door?

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QUOTE(finkl1 @ Jul 7 2007, 11:00 AM)
Eh...kenot disclose identity mah....but I give hint that worked with blardy Private Banking Singapore on my last project...have to talk "fai wah" with Hongkie IS team everyday....

Cantonese improved....Working skill decreased. hahahaha...

Eh, dun kow my Siew Ping man.....everytime I see her, I wanna touch her "SK2" soft snowy face....ahhaha....
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ah...that project sucked?
mind to elaborate more?
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QUOTE(guybrush @ Jul 8 2007, 11:20 AM)
Is it hard to even get an interview from Scope?

I've applied back 2 months ago with my insider friend helping me
to forward it to HR department. I have near 3 years of programming
working experience with me, but what i've mastered are not languages
used by mainstream IT companies around....

I'm not sure whether i should give it another try since i saw
SCOPE is mass hiring right now again...Should i keep knocking the door?
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There's a mass recruitment last saturday at Le Meridian hotel. I guess you missed it. wink.gif


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thumbup.gif You all can surf net? There's relatively few bankers here, i believe its because bankers dont have internet access at work? Correct me sweat.gif
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Can surf la. some webbie's cannot only. friendster etc etc you know what. smile.gif

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ah...that project sucked?
mind to elaborate more?
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There's a mass recruitment last saturday at Le Meridian hotel. I guess you missed it.  wink.gif


Added on July 9, 2007, 9:50 am

Can surf la. some webbie's cannot only. friendster etc etc you know what.  smile.gif
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I thought the walk-in mass recruitment at Le Meridian hotel was for hiring IT graduates
with less than or 1 year experience. I remember I saw the ads on the star that day.

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I thought the walk-in mass recruitment at Le Meridian hotel was for hiring IT graduates
with less than or 1 year experience. I remember I saw the ads on the star that day.
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hmm, not sure about the fresh grad part tho.
However, no harm trying mar.

What post u trying to apply?
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hmm, not sure about the fresh grad part tho.
However, no harm trying mar.

What post u trying to apply?
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Should be any of the analyst programmers position gua..
I have near 3 years experience to back me up but it has
no relation whatsoever with what used in any of the positions
because currently I've working experience with Delphi language
only...and i found it it's quite hard to convince any of the
HR people to think that languages can be mastered in short time
but ideas on how to do will always be in mind..


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@guybrush:
Fren,...not to pour cold water lah huh.... IDE programming is fast and simple to pickup...I agree, but not pure language like shell , C ,Cobol or SAS.
In addition, if I threw one of the above defects for you to fix, you think you can manage it using Clearcase environment?.

In case SAS is new to you......
http://www.sas.com/

Well, if they are hiring Visual Basic or C-Builder or J-builder ah....ok lah..I think you can quickly get the hang of it in 1-2 months time.

I think you might also agree with me....creating and developing your own codes is more simple than reading existing codes,especially if it's poorly documented as well.

Anyway, wish you the best.
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@guybrush:
Fren,...not to pour cold water lah huh.... IDE programming is fast and simple to pickup...I agree, but not pure language like shell , C ,Cobol or SAS.
In addition, if I threw one of the above defects for you to fix, you think you can manage it using Clearcase environment?.

In case SAS is new to you......
http://www.sas.com/

Well, if they are hiring Visual Basic or C-Builder or J-builder ah....ok lah..I think you can quickly get the hang of it in 1-2 months time.

I think you might also agree with me....creating and developing your own codes is more simple than reading existing codes,especially if it's poorly documented as well.

Anyway, wish you the best.
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Actually I don't quite understand the situation really,
coz with my few years of experience, if i'm trying to
apply .NET position i'm still considered fresh to .NET,
but if apply graduate trainee position it's also not that
logic either.

Maybe this is the disadvantage of my profile,
do u think so finkl1?
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QUOTE(guybrush @ Jul 9 2007, 11:52 PM)
Actually I don't quite understand the situation really, coz with my few years of experience, if i'm trying to apply .NET position i'm still considered fresh to .NET, but if apply graduate trainee position it's also not that logic either.
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I am confused too when come to these things like switching of technology/platform/business domain. Are we considered as fresh/junior or experienced? cry.gif

QUOTE(finkl1)
I think you might also agree with me....creating and developing your own codes is more simple than reading existing codes,especially if it's poorly documented as well.

Agree, reading/fixing code is not an easy job. However, I doubt writing everything from scratch will guarantee us a better quality outcome, because I've really seen people making poor quality product even worse by rewrite. Probably this is developer dependent and case-by-case.

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QUOTE(Find The Way @ Jul 10 2007, 01:41 PM)
I am confused too when come to these things like switching of technology/platform/business domain. Are we considered as fresh/junior or experienced?  cry.gif

QUOTE(finkl1)
I think you might also agree with me....creating and developing your own codes is more simple than reading existing codes,especially if it's poorly documented as well.

Agree, reading/fixing code is not an easy job. However, I doubt writing everything from scratch will guarantee us a better quality outcome, because I've really seen people making poor quality product even worse by rewrite. Probably this is developer dependent and case-by-case.
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I think this question can be only answered by some HR people i think..
How we think doesn't apply to them i think.

But what i knew is that, this problem occurs time and time again,
during my first job search and now then. I first thought of gaining
any experience in this field first when opportunities are presented,
but now found out that planning ur path is really important.
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I got this job interview with ISCM. Is expanding, looks exciting with global opportunity.

What's the working culture like? Their managers? Benefits? Anything else that i shud know?

Can share some info so I know what to ask during interview?

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@guybrush:
Not really a disadvantage for you mate. Delphi is greatly use in many outstanding application these days, even on Linux..eg: Kylix, which I assume you know.
It's just that Delphi is not widely used in Malaysia. I'm also a Delphi user.
In your case, I guess, if you relatively have no working experience in .NET, I suppose they would consider you a "fresh", but it's a question IF you really do want to learn some new for FREE and gain the work experience as well.
But, if it's all about the pay....then you should probably look at a different career window.

Just be wise in planning the path.


@Thinkertoy:
Not really sure the position you are being interviewed on...so I don't know how to give my opinion here.
Scope is basically a very aggressive IT banking environment. Major revenues basically churns from offshore Hong Kong and Singapore.

Most of the projects are demanding. If you haven't worked in an IT banking environment, then,...the "demanding" here is both communication and experience wise. The room for learning is quite small, and most of the work are challenging.

Managers differ. They are those that you might normally meet in a chinese-cultured working environment. They like to live up to their "pasar malam" slogan: "Faster, Cheaper and Better".

When I got hired, they just went for my skills. They already needed me badly for the project, and I was in need to get out from my prev company....so, the screening wasn't much except for my skills.
Pay wise is totally different. Usually, they play the hard to get,...probably need some good negotiation skill....which I lack, and they got me cheap and good.

There are alot of monthly events going on internally in each department.
If you are the interactive sort...well, you will get adjusted quickly.
Doing work with the banking people are also a good exposure, in both meeting them and talking on the phone with them.

I suppose the question here again is....when you are being interviewed by them...., ask yourself...DO you really want to work with him/her?.
So, you gotta know their expectations....If they are the sort that are tolerable for room in improvement, whether in career, interest, personal growth...then, why not?.



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@guybrush:
Not really a disadvantage for you mate. Delphi is greatly use in many outstanding application these days, even on Linux..eg: Kylix, which I assume you know.
It's just that Delphi is not widely used in Malaysia. I'm also a Delphi user.
In your case, I guess, if you relatively have no working experience in .NET, I suppose they would consider you a "fresh", but it's a question IF you really do want to learn some new for FREE and gain the work experience as well.
But, if it's all about the pay....then you should probably look at a different career window.

Just be wise in planning the path.
@Thinkertoy:
Not really sure the position you are being interviewed on...so I don't know how to give my opinion here.
Scope is basically a very aggressive IT banking environment. Major revenues basically churns from offshore Hong Kong and Singapore.

Most of the projects are demanding. If you haven't worked in an IT banking environment, then,...the "demanding" here is both communication and experience wise. The room for learning is quite small, and most of the work are challenging.

Managers differ. They are those that you might normally meet in a chinese-cultured working environment. They like to live up to their "pasar malam"  slogan: "Faster, Cheaper and Better".

When I got hired, they just went for my skills. They already needed me badly for the project, and I was in need to get out from my prev company....so, the screening wasn't much except for my skills.
Pay wise is totally different. Usually, they play the hard to get,...probably need some good negotiation skill....which I lack, and they got me cheap and good.

There are alot of monthly events going on internally in each department.
If you are the interactive sort...well, you will get adjusted quickly.
Doing work with the banking people are also a good exposure, in both meeting them and talking on the phone with them.

I suppose the question here again is....when you are being interviewed by them...., ask yourself...DO you really want to work with him/her?.
So, you gotta know their expectations....If they are the sort that are tolerable for room in improvement, whether in career, interest, personal growth...then, why not?.
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So does that means, if i want to apply job at work in Scope, I need to go apply Graduate Trainee position one?
Actually, what i'm interested is the exposure and the environment working in SCOPE..Even though from
what i heard from my friend was that sometimes needs to return home late, but it's worth while i think.
Am I still qualified for the trainee post? Pity this kind of chance didn't bloom out that time during my time
finding job back few years ago.

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finkl1, u've stated that the room for learning is small, care to explain further?
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jz share my exp:-

before i entered scope,
1. job offer from ex-coll - RM 3K for R&D department
2. job offer from MNC company for Java programmer - RM 3K.
3. job offer from local company as AP - RM 2.5k
4. If i continue my freelance job, I got RM 700~1500 for every week.

after think & think & think...& compare & compare & compare..
I took risk n joined Scope ...& my salary is 30%~50% lower..
maybe u will think i m dumb * stupid.

Noone will satisfy for their current salary.. bcos more $$ more spend..
However, feel under pay after

1. got job offer from oversea company - S$3.5K
2. got job offer from local companies - RM 3.2~ 4K
3. i can join any of the previous companies', which gave offer before joined scope... & pay will be more than offered at that time.

what to do.. can't chao bcos of 2 yrs born..
i can't deny that scope was a good company... good ppl, good working environment....bla bla bla..
But, the increment is really low n out of our expectation... dun know why... maybe i m greddy or what..

I took my risk at 1st place.. r u ?
*what u gain at one side = what u loss at another side.
*ISCM is stand for International Software Center Malaysia.. It is not International Stan Chart Malaysia.
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@guybrush:
if you have working experience, why join graduate trainee????...
I doubt they should offer you that, as it does not compliment you salary, unless you telling me you earn less than 2k.

work late?...YES, most projects require working late...and YES, Scope pay peanuts increment....
Money is distributed to mostly Mainframe people.....


@Hean:
For my project....yes. Most of the time, I do not have the skillset to start my project. And if you are in a project already, most of the time, you are "putting out fire". You work like a robot, while some manager give crap suggestion and make you do it eventhough you tell them it's a stupid idea.
There is no awards/encouragement given to being innovative or making things easier and better.

Again, I may contradict my earlier statement by telling you... for some parts of my project I did learn something, but that's only because I know these from my previous working experience that now I know it cannot be applied here and there.
What I'm probably nailing are new skillsets.


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Any experience in Graduate Trainee in TPM?
What would be the salary range?
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DUN KNOW HOW TO TELL U..

"DUN TRY THIS AT ....."
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Do you know where is PJ Hilton?.
It's on the opposite side of the road , where there is a tall building called Menara Axis. Next to Menara Axis, there is a white building ...that's Crystal Plaza.

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opposite Amarda Hotel across the road ....... and directly facing Asia Jaya LRT station ......
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not bad..quite smooth
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like to ask what is the benefits wise? career advancement? and will there be any contract bond? (not graduate trainee) and what is the current project they are having right now?

stress?
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they offered me..but i think i will skip tht
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Scope is quite good. I joined as fresh grad.
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Scope is quite good. I joined as fresh grad.
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I think that time they really need people urgently.
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I also rejected their offer few months back due to the package is not good enough... I negotiated with the HR like pasar malam only get what i want..  doh.gif
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package offered not good
hw is the job?u work as cobol programmer?
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still waiting for the outcome...
dunno wat will happen.... -.-"
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and clawhammer won't help me send my resume one...he damn lansi cry.gif
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eeee..... i apply for java developer there....
still waiting for the outcome...
dunno wat will happen.... -.-"
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QUOTE(kingoffighter @ Aug 14 2007, 08:53 AM)
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wow... a Scope International Thread! i'm surprised...

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hi guys, work at scope need to travel oversea assignement?
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hi guys, work at scope need to travel oversea assignement?
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i applied for java developer..they asked me for cobol programmer doh.gif
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which i say i not interested... so i dunno they will called me for permenant or not....? sad.gif sad.gif sad.gif
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HI All, I will have an Interview soon for this company as .net Developer. They want to conduct a test assessment before meet the interviewer. May i Know what should i prepare before go for it? any sample of question can i study?
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Anyone doing 'Global Operation Officer' in this company? cuz i went for the interview last week...and i think i did quite ok.nothing technical was asked. mind to share your thoughts?

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Anyone doing 'Global Operation Officer' in this company? cuz i went for the interview last week...and i think i did quite ok.nothing technical was asked. mind to share your thoughts?

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Based in TPM bro..i got lost in the building for 15mins only I managed to get to the HR dept.
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Saw on jobstreet ad by the Advertiser:
Excellent remuneration package with bonuses 3-6 months , housing loan ,full medical coverage, trainings and other benefits await the selected candidates
A good opportunity to be in the JAVA development environment and to participate in new technologies functions & breakthrough.
Convenient location near LRT station in Petaling Jaya, More than 20 openings available.

Could this be Scope?

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QUOTE(rollinpark @ Sep 1 2007, 04:39 PM)
Saw on jobstreet ad by the Advertiser:
Excellent remuneration package with bonuses 3-6 months , housing loan ,full medical coverage, trainings and other benefits await the selected candidates
A good opportunity to be in the JAVA development environment and to participate in new technologies functions & breakthrough.
Convenient location near LRT station in Petaling Jaya, More than 20 openings available.

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everyone here is talking about scope international, how about IT365? Is it the same? is there a good place to work?
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Don't mislead people!
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QUOTE(klangboy83 @ Sep 4 2007, 09:39 AM)
No way, scope is "managed headcount" and cost savings (your bonus) is the main focus, so bunus is average 1 month.
Don't mislead people!
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klangboy83, you sure ah bonus only average 1 month? My frens working there tell me that last few years the average was 2 months lah ... and some people even get until 5 to 6 months. Where you get you info wan lah?


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everyone here is talking about scope international, how about IT365? Is it the same? is there a good place to work?
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I come across this website http://scb-scope.com/index.cfm ... check it out and it will tell u what u need to know

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QUOTE(rollinpark @ Sep 1 2007, 04:39 PM)
Saw on jobstreet ad by the Advertiser:
Excellent remuneration package with bonuses 3-6 months , housing loan ,full medical coverage, trainings and other benefits await the selected candidates
A good opportunity to be in the JAVA development environment and to participate in new technologies functions & breakthrough.
Convenient location near LRT station in Petaling Jaya, More than 20 openings available.

Could this be Scope?
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Is it really true In scope?
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Yup, is true. Got 3 of my friends working there as IT software developer.
But...err....from what I understand, their work-load is forever won't end 1.*A lot*.But that is also depend which dept/team* you belong too.
Hmm...err, I think I better dont share out the details on the work-load...if those of you wanna have more info, can pm me. I'll try to share with you.
Anyway, I rejected their offer 2 mths ago. Now at British Telecom.


Fyi...they really, really, really.....need Java people. Hope you get what I mean. smile.gif
Cheers.



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No way, scope is "managed headcount" and cost savings (your bonus) is the main focus, so bunus is average 1 month.
Don't mislead people!
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QUOTE(KenAragorn @ Sep 4 2007, 11:21 AM)
Yup, is true. Got 3 of my friends working there as IT software developer.
But...err....from what I understand, their work-load is forever won't end 1.*A lot*.But that is also depend which dept/team* you belong too.
Hmm...err, I think I better dont share out the details on the work-load...if those of you wanna have more info, can pm me. I'll try to share with you.
Anyway, I rejected their offer 2 mths ago. Now at British Telecom.
Fyi...they really, really, really.....need Java people. Hope you get what I mean. smile.gif
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Wow I didn't know British Telecom have a branch here. Or are you working in UK.
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QUOTE(KenAragorn @ Sep 4 2007, 11:21 AM)
Yup, is true. Got 3 of my friends working there as IT software developer.
But...err....from what I understand, their work-load is forever won't end 1.*A lot*.But that is also depend which dept/team* you belong too.
Hmm...err, I think I better dont share out the details on the work-load...if those of you wanna have more info, can pm me. I'll try to share with you.
Anyway, I rejected their offer 2 mths ago. Now at British Telecom.
Fyi...they really, really, really.....need Java people. Hope you get what I mean. smile.gif
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cool!!u r working in BT..the office is nice thumbup.gif

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Wow I didn't know British Telecom have a branch here. Or are you working in UK.
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I am working near Asia Jaya@PJ... IT Support Center for the Asia Region...

Anybody more who can share their experience... feel like dropping into a danger zone...
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what "chiq" here?...CHIPS?.CHICK?CHEAP?...CHEAT?..what?...
Scope is the BEST banking company out there.....so good...
they utilize you to the fullest...everything is NEVERENDING?....where got?.....Else, if I got no time , how do I kacau Siew Ping huh?....hahaahhaha icon_idea.gif

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so many chicks so u all motivated to work ler .....
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QUOTE(finkl1 @ Sep 12 2007, 10:38 PM)
what "chiq" here?...CHIPS?.CHICK?CHEAP?...CHEAT?..what?...
Scope is the BEST banking company out there.....so good...
they utilize you to the fullest...everything is NEVERENDING?....where got?.....Else, if I got no time , how do I kacau Siew Ping huh?....hahaahhaha  icon_idea.gif
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you dunno who siew ping ah?...aiyoh....u stuck to ur desk for 24x7 like zombie izzit?...miss a snow white leng lui also?.....aisheh....
yes...MO. .."Man's Obsession"....ahahhahahaha....not Management Office.

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you dunno who siew ping ah?...aiyoh....u stuck to ur desk for 24x7 like zombie izzit?...miss a snow white leng lui also?.....aisheh....
yes...MO. .."Man's Obsession"....ahahhahahaha....not Management Office.
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hey guys, any of u work as tester in ther?
can share some experience? Is there lots of OT?

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QUOTE(olman @ Apr 1 2007, 04:18 PM)
they are ur customers f00, lol

it is because of them, you have a job there smile.gif

ITSC, this is ABC, need sumthing?

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how's programmer life over there?

besides siew peng, any other interesting story at scope?
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Is it true that Scope will send some of the staffs for oversea training and project for short term?
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anyone, i've been go through 1st interview...
is there anyone can tell me about what kind of questions they ask during 2nd interview?

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I've just received an offer for grad trainee post, a bit unexpected also, just after one short walk in interview. I was told, probably will be dealing with mainframes, COBOLs... can some1 pls advice me on future prospects pls? Is it possible to go into banking operations line in future? i'm actualy a engine fresh grad
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COBOL?...mainframe...called Hogan.
You need to ask yourself if you want to make a future living with COBOL?.
I'm not sure if it's development, testing, management, biz analysis...
Hogan for one...is very proprietry, so, you learn nothing much but banking transactions, and remember all those shortcut commands navigating that DOS-like menu.

Nothing much that I learnt...except soft skills...talking to people and how to "encourage" people to give you information..

Travelling short term was modest during my time, Hong Kong, Singapore, Indonesia...but, it all depends on your project.
I just know the allowance is good for Hong Kong and Singapore....

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QUOTE(finkl1 @ Nov 6 2007, 08:58 AM)
COBOL?...mainframe...called Hogan.
You need to ask yourself if you want to make a future living with COBOL?.
I'm not sure if it's development, testing, management, biz analysis...
Hogan for one...is very proprietry, so, you learn nothing much but banking transactions, and remember all those shortcut commands navigating that DOS-like menu.

Nothing much that I learnt...except soft skills...talking to people and how to "encourage" people to give you information..

Travelling short term was modest during my time, Hong Kong, Singapore, Indonesia...but, it all depends on your project.
I just know the allowance is good for Hong Kong and Singapore....
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thanks for the info. Still considering...2 years bonded..hmm the guys from the prevoius posts does make it sound a little bit scary...haha
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Anyone know wat's the job scope as a Service Consultant in Scope?
Is it in contract? 2 years too?


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hi..surprised to see a thread on scope in here..
anyway..want to ask about the..school of trade program at scope in TPM..
something to do with document analyst..export import documentation and all..
anyone working in that department or anything?
coz thinking of going there because got the offer..

how's the working environment? the people? the working hours? benefits? salary? and other worth mentioning things?
i think it's under the banking operation..not the ICT one...
i'll be based in TPM..
any infos or anything at all relating to Scope at TPM will be valuable for me..coz got around 1 more month to decide whether to work there or not..
thanx guys!
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For the service consultant for scope international in TPM,

I had been in the training as a Part time Service Consultant. I haven't finished the training cuz i was expelled from the training. I took 2 days MC cuz i was really sick and they told me I never get enough basic and asked me to rejoin next batch. So i had nothing to argue and stepped back from it.

From what i had been told, there IS NO benefit at all for service consultant. No load, no medical, and the allowance only given to the midnight shift which is 12am-8pm, RM300-400 a month. They actually offered RM12 per hour being part time service consultant but one of my fren worked there for 4 months said recently that they didn't really pay that much now. I need to reconsider whether i am going back joining the next batch.

U might think i am leaking some internal info, um i guess i am not wrong.. for the information below as my conclusion of my message.

Bad things:
-No loan
-No medical
-Basically no benefit
-Bully part timers, pay less (I have counted for my fren, average is RM6.8/hrs than paying RM12/hrs)
-Full timer salary RM1800 (no matter what level r u in, a degree holder also starts with this amount of salary. Unless u r someone special...)

Good thing is:
-the name card/tag u're hanging can access to any department in the TPM as long as they are all under scope international - StandardChartered Bank


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overall how is scope culture and environment ?
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Thanks for the feedback...
Wow.. no Medical..
Part time rate rm12 is quite high..If they rely provide tat rate..It is worth it..
But how's the part time working hours like?
Can choose any day u want?
How cum rm 12 becum RM 6.8? Cut off half of the pay...

QUOTE(glamorous @ Nov 29 2007, 08:08 PM)
For the service consultant for scope international in TPM,

I had been in the training as a Part time Service Consultant. I haven't finished the training cuz i was expelled from the training. I took 2 days MC cuz i was really sick and they told me I never get enough basic and asked me to rejoin next batch. So i had nothing to argue and stepped back from it.

From what i had been told, there IS NO benefit at all for service consultant. No load, no medical, and the allowance only given to the midnight shift which is 12am-8pm, RM300-400 a month. They actually offered RM12 per hour being part time service consultant but one of my fren worked there for 4 months said recently that they didn't really pay that much now. I need to reconsider whether i am going back joining the next batch.

U might think i am leaking some internal info, um i guess i am not wrong.. for the information below as my conclusion of my message.

Bad things:
-No loan
-No medical
-Basically no benefit
-Bully part timers, pay less (I have counted for my fren, average is RM6.8/hrs than paying RM12/hrs)
-Full timer salary RM1800 (no matter what level r u in, a degree holder also starts with this amount of salary. Unless u r someone special...)

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Thanks for the feedback...
Wow.. no Medical..
Part time rate rm12 is quite high..If they rely provide tat rate..It is worth it..
But how's the part time working hours like?
Can choose any day u want?
How cum rm 12 becum RM 6.8? Cut off half of the pay...
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Scope is a private company ... providing services to SCB ... so not belong to Banking Industry ... therefore benefits could not compare with local Bank here
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To be more accurate, Scope is a subsidiary of StanChart but not classified as a Bank (i.e., you don't get the union coverage, you don't get any of the Bank Negara protection for Bank employees, and you don't get Bank benefits).

But otherwise ... well you get rm400/yr combined dental/optical, you get staff credit cards (basically same as outsider card except no annual fee), you get medical/hospital insurance coverage. Pay I suppose is only average (starting pay for fresh grad is 1.6k-2.0k), 18-21 days leave. Working hrs/working conditions is very dependant on what department you get into.
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erm.. i just came back from interview @ pj scope.. how much should i ask for with 2 years exp? they seem desperate.. it is a supporting position...
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they desperate cause turnover high
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they desperate cause turnover high
The banking ops division has like 20-30% annual attrition ... so that's like, every 3-4 years if you are still in the company, everyone else is new, lol.
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so far mostly bad comments... :s scare liao.. sad.gif
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I personally think this company is not that bad. Some how it's a "willing to pay" company. Can observe from their annual bonus, which can up to 6 months... normal rating with around 2 months(rating from 1 -5 ). Besides, this company has a very good potential to expand and you can learn a lot from there.

If you are thinking of pursuing your career in banking sector(IT), I think this is the right place. Unless you able to enter those HSBC or Citibank ... But this Scope is definitely better than any local bank in IT sector.

So, from my point of view, you will not know how is the internal environment and the goods of a company unless you are really in there. This is very subjective as different department has different style and you dun like it not means others dun like it as well. Do not miss any opportunity by just seeing the so call 'verbally' passive site of the forumers here.

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They've been so desperate lately, of which they call up everyday asking me to go for an interview. Unix (a little Oracle) position.

Ah, not sure how much they would offer. But I'm fairly not interested to join them. wink.gif
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They've been so desperate lately, of which they call up everyday asking me to go for an interview. Unix (a little Oracle) position.

Ah, not sure how much they would offer. But I'm fairly not interested to join them. wink.gif
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It has been 2 weeks, and they're still calling me up.

Nah, I'm not money driven...It's not always about money you see. Anyway, I'm pretty much comfortable at my current company and job. wink.gif

P/s: Yes. They did offer me good money. smile.gif

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It has been 2 weeks, and they're still calling me up.

Nah, I'm not money driven...It's not always about money you see. Anyway, I'm pretty much comfortable at my current company and job. wink.gif

P/s: Yes. They did offer me good money. smile.gif
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Hahaha.. if not money driven, then what for you work? Just do whatever you like. Maybe people always said not to see on money but to gain more experience... but why need to gain more experience to be expertist ? That's only one reason behind, to get BETTER job, BETTER salary for more comfortable life in future. Thus, I am not believing such things as working for not money but for knowledge. Imagine that in future after you have your family, money is a must. biggrin.gif

If you knew how to jump, you will get a good salary increase as well as experience. But ofcourse not to ask you jump few jobs in a year, people will see you are not loyal to company.

One more things, if you not yet work on others company, how can you say your current one is more comfortable? There are no perfect companies in the world, if yes, all people will just apply on that company. cool2.gif
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Well, you're right in a way, but I favor more towards comfort. And I've been working with few companies (MNCs and whatnot) already.

I didn't say that I won't jump nor my current company is the perfect company in the world.

Yes, I do look forward to a greater opportunity, and yes it's all about money. Still, I earn better and I do have my own small company of which helps to keep me alive.

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You know, I went for interview in ISCM yesterday, i kinda agree to work there, but is waiting for the offer letter or something like that.

The only thing is, I forget about asking about benefits, so can anyone fill me in?

p.s so i was kinda attracted by the mainframe and cobol(me a programming language buff, don't ask). But not really sure going to stay is banking IT. Looks like my weekends belongs to the more mainstream tech.

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the benefit quite good, compare with my previous company. Here got AIA medical card, can claim for optical and dentals, annual leave also quite alot(but dun compare with bank).
Got vending machine, sell at very cheap price. Got coffee machine, free of charge. biggrin.gif
So far i feel quite ok with the environment.
And for the bonus, how many you contribute, how much you wil get. smile.gif
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QUOTE(sweemeng @ Apr 26 2008, 12:47 PM)
You know, I went for interview in ISCM yesterday, i kinda agree to work there, but is waiting for the offer letter or something like that.

The only thing is, I forget about asking about benefits, so can anyone fill me in?

p.s so i was kinda attracted by the mainframe and cobol(me a programming language buff, don't ask). But not really sure going to stay is banking IT. Looks like my weekends belongs to the more mainstream tech.
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As i know.... and heard..... mainframe.. is very stress..................... blink.gif
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You know, I went for interview in ISCM yesterday, i kinda agree to work there, but is waiting for the offer letter or something like that.

The only thing is, I forget about asking about benefits, so can anyone fill me in?

p.s so i was kinda attracted by the mainframe and cobol(me a programming language buff, don't ask). But not really sure going to stay is banking IT. Looks like my weekends belongs to the more mainstream tech.



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As i know.... and heard..... mainframe.. is very stress.....................  blink.gif
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Are you all mentioning the new formed department in ISCM which cater for the Servers ? The manager is Er..ca ?
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actually i'm don't even know, can fill me in?

p.s was warned about the stress thing.....................

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actually i'm don't even know, can fill me in?

p.s was warned about the stress thing.....................
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Who interview you ?
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ms wendy
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Wendy is HR, only HR interview you ? No any technical manager interview your? What is your job post ?
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programmer, I am suppose to go for training on friday.
and yeah, she is the only one, and no technical manage interview me.
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programmer, I am suppose to go for training on friday.
and yeah, she is the only one, and no technical manage interview me.
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I see. Do you have any idea on the infrastructure analyst post ? Taking care of servers setup one..
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erm nope..............
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no, the whole shebang start on friday, (If I manage to get a letter from my uni, states I finish my study)
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no, the whole shebang start on friday, (If I manage to get a letter from my uni, states I finish my study)
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Good question, let's leave it until after training.........(training is somewhere else)
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Hey guys, just want to know if anyone knows about Ness Global Services hiring developers for Scope projects? Any insiders insight?

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Hi guys,

i got an offer ..is this team turn over high? i was offer the job immediately after the interview with rather high pay so makes me bit worry about the job..easy everyday OT even weekend?

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wow.. lots of ppl getting interviews eh? hows the work like there?
I got a call to go for an interview in the system support side.
wanna know how the environment is

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anyone knows what kind of workload a system analyst in Scope has??

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Hi guys,

i got an offer...is this team turn over high? i was offer the job immediately after the interview with rather high pay so makes me bit worry about the job..easy everyday OT even weekend?
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I'm taking the offer letter soon..any news? Feedback i asked around is that scope work load damn high n doesn;t promote work life balance...any scope staff in PJ under ISIS team? icon_question.gif


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attended a rather 'quick interview' at wisma LYL for a team lead/PM position. was told it will manage a small team to support HK securities (trading) system. any insider info to share in respect to work load, people, and culture? tia.
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I am planning to apply for a job in scope. Wandering anyone have any experience with the interview process? For example, any test session, maybe any sample question that they will ask, the length of time, any useful tips etc
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I am planning to apply for a job in scope. Wandering anyone have any experience with the interview process? For example, any test session, maybe any sample question that they will ask, the length of time, any useful tips etc
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not sure which post u r going after. but if you are applying for CTF - Test Engineer ... it's just a casual talk, no test session and nothing to test on your knowledge in IT as well.
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been offered a place in scope PJ, just wanna know is it true that working at scope has no life? can anyone from scope confirm?
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I am in Scope.
Now, make it straight forward and easy:

1. Good and positive working environment
2. Hard bread (demanding) and of course rewarding
3. Good timelines, big pipelines
4. Good, competitive pay with great benefit too!
5. Sufficient training (to my own scale)

If you are:

1. Lazy ass
2. 9-6pm boy
3. Expect spoon feed
.....etc, etc... just give up before you join!
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I am in Scope.
Now, make it straight forward and easy:

1. Good and positive working environment
2. Hard bread (demanding) and of course rewarding
3. Good timelines, big pipelines
4. Good, competitive pay with great benefit too!
5. Sufficient training (to my own scale)

If you are:

1. Lazy ass
2. 9-6pm boy
3. Expect spoon feed
.....etc, etc... just give up before you join!
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Thanks, hmm...seems to be a very challenging environment..which team r u in?
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In CE team now.
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CE = ? ?

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QUOTE(noelcantona7 @ Jul 13 2008, 10:01 PM)
I am in Scope.
Now, make it straight forward and easy:

1. Good and positive working environment
2. Hard bread (demanding) and of course rewarding
3. Good timelines, big pipelines
4. Good, competitive pay with great benefit too!
5. Sufficient training (to my own scale)

If you are:

1. Lazy ass
2. 9-6pm boy
3. Expect spoon feed
.....etc, etc... just give up before you join!
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one word................
die...........

Because I am lazy my self. But mostly in a good way. If timeline good, it is fine actually..................
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one word................
die...........

Because I am lazy my self. But mostly in a good way. If timeline good, it is fine actually..................
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From your blog, I gather that you just finished cobol.
I assumed that you are a fresh grad joining core banking (Hogan) team?
You will have a good learning experience! I assure you.
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i heard that they are hiring a lot of new people. Is the turnover rate high??

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from what i see, the human resource management is so sucks!! especially fresh graduate who would easily fall into the trap of joining production service support. and if you are very unlucky to join a team (probably newly setup team) which needs a lot of knowledge from the india colleagues, good luck to you. it's like malaysia and india fighting for project and they can boycott you anytime when you beg for help. i can see that something is not right in the company structure.

if you are experienced and manage to get a high position, the money is good. but for fresh graduate, the salary is higher than the market value but please think twice on the setback first.
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from what i see, the human resource management is so sucks!! especially fresh graduate who would easily fall into the trap of joining production service support. and if you are very unlucky to join a team (probably newly setup team) which needs a lot of knowledge from the india colleagues, good luck to you. it's like malaysia and india fighting for project and they can boycott you anytime when you beg for help. i can see that something is not right in the company structure.   

if you are experienced and manage to get a high position, the money is good. but for fresh graduate, the salary is higher than the market value but please think twice on the setback first.
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QUOTE(noelcantona7 @ Jul 14 2008, 11:18 PM)
From your blog, I gather that you just finished cobol.
I assumed that you are a fresh grad joining core banking (Hogan) team?
You will have a good learning experience! I assure you.
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really I don't really know. Currently scope knows, but we don't.(from my source anyway)
But I only know when I reach scope in end of august

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QUOTE(lpp @ Jul 15 2008, 09:10 PM)
from what i see, the human resource management is so sucks!! especially fresh graduate who would easily fall into the trap of joining production service support. and if you are very unlucky to join a team (probably newly setup team) which needs a lot of knowledge from the india colleagues, good luck to you. it's like malaysia and india fighting for project and they can boycott you anytime when you beg for help. i can see that something is not right in the company structure.   

if you are experienced and manage to get a high position, the money is good. but for fresh graduate, the salary is higher than the market value but please think twice on the setback first.
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for high ranked position, what other thing you can share with us apart from good money?
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mate, with all due respect, human issue is not an issue being considered in working world.
so, look at it positively.
if they can't gear the project or they can't learn and you managed to, it only proves that you are more capable.
i am not on a high post. but i still think it will look nice in your resume if you worked in Scope before.

but i have to agree with you that fresh grad. doesn't have much choice after the training.
but please also remember there is a chance to discuss with your boss and ask for a move.


Added on July 16, 2008, 3:59 pmJanice.Forever

look at it this way.
turnover is i believe should be evaluated with percentage%
Scope is big, so if 1 month got 50 staffs resigned or transfer.
Say Scope has 1.5k of staffs now.
Say xxx company has 100 staffs now.

Which one has a higher turnover rate?
xxx company because 50% turnover rate.

If I am not mistaken, one of the manager's KPI would be "retaining the staff or having low turnover rate in his/her dept"

So, support them and you will get their support in return.


Added on July 16, 2008, 4:01 pmcallmepaper,

did you get any offer yet?
from what I am seeing, is a healthy environment with sufficient amount of work for you to grow.
so if you are capable, why worry?

I mean you should have enough working experience and exposure for the PM post., so if I were you, the only thing I would worry would be pipelines.

And for your information, the staffs here are quite competitive and cooperative.
To me, its PM's heaven.

cheers!

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Added on July 16, 2008, 4:01 pmcallmepaper,

did you get any offer yet?
from what I am seeing, is a healthy environment with sufficient amount of work for you to grow.
so if you are capable, why worry?

I mean you should have enough working experience and exposure for the PM post., so if I were you, the only thing I would worry would be pipelines.

And for your information, the staffs here are quite competitive and cooperative.
To me, its PM's heaven.

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hi noelcantona7,
not yet. i'm rather not worry about the workload or whatsoever, very much curious to know the culture and the top people. i guess probably this is not a right forum for sharing such info. will have to dig it out myself if i'm offered a chance. thanks for the feedback, appreciated it.
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Scope and ITSC, a nice place to work. attractive remuneration package. no doubt heavy workload but learning is great. sweet memory.
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My bro worked with SCOPE for 3.5 months, the problem with his job was that the working hours. He was required to work from 11am-8pm (very weird hours as they need to support middle east countries), nothing much to learn as he was in the support team. during the interview, they told him the working time is flexible, after donno how long, he would get the chance to learn programming, the pay was ok with no probation period. So he took the offer and got regretted after 2 weeks. So he tendered resignation letter and the immediate supervisor told him coz no probation period, he will need to serve for at least 3 months otherwise he will need to pay compensation. So no choice, the company made him seated at his desk doing nothing for 3 months yawn.gif . Thank god, he got an offer before he left the company. flex.gif
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Mate, i think to be fair I would ask:

1. Did your bro talk to his line mgr? If yes, how and how many times?
2. Did you bro stress that he is not comfortable with the time? there is indeed 8-5, 9-6, 10-7, 11-8 slots available.
3. Did he get a chance to learn programming?
4. Doing nothing is not good even he left 3 mths with the comp. (frankly, I join in and I am being aggressive, so I ask around for work and now I got a whole lot)

If he really looking into dev. work he should be opened enough to discuss with line mgr, and HR.
And time, again with line mgr.
And if after talking and trying and really couldn't work. Its very fair for him to give up.

Else is a waste of his time, the company's time and everyone's effort (including your bro)

clngu said is a nice place, this is my 3rd company and i have to say is a positive place.

so, keep us updated with your brother and the new company that he joined. glad to improve.


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QUOTE(noelcantona7 @ Jul 16 2008, 07:37 PM)
Mate, i think to be fair I would ask:

1. Did your bro talk to his line mgr? If yes, how and how many times?
2. Did you bro stress that he is not comfortable with the time? there is indeed 8-5, 9-6, 10-7, 11-8 slots available.
3. Did he get a chance to learn programming?
4. Doing nothing is not good even he left 3 mths with the comp. (frankly, I join in and I am being aggressive, so I ask around for work and now I got a whole lot)

If he really looking into dev. work he should be opened enough to discuss with line mgr, and HR.
And time, again with line mgr.
And if after talking and trying and really couldn't work. Its very fair for him to give up.

Else is a waste of his time, the company's time and everyone's effort (including your bro)

clngu said is a nice place, this is my 3rd company and i have to say is a positive place.

so, keep us updated with your brother and the new company that he joined. glad to improve.
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Not too sure..yeah, it could b my bro's problem, anyway it happened last 2 years. He's now in BASF, seems to be happier rolleyes.gif

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Hi guys, I just begin working with Scope this week after near 3 month training at Shah Alam (under Grad Trainee) doing midrange. We're been assign under Internet Banking Mobile team. Unfortunately,me and my friends(Java trainee) were left alone at the back of the office(near pantry 2nd floor) waiting for the manager to give the briefing but until now just wait( 3 days )...HR has told us that this prob happen due to late inform to the manager blink.gif
...and the brief, tour in the office will start next week... i dont know whether the manager always busy but at least just assign us in the team first, not rotten there while other staffs just glare us like we're like outlaw or smthing...we just want to be part of the Scope..huhu...

One more thing...Whats the Internet Banking Mobile team do? One of us has assign to PICASSO team...whats PICASSO? Already ask people there but they don't know much about them...hope senioritas working in Scope can clarify it.... icon_question.gif


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My bro worked with SCOPE for 3.5 months, the problem with his job was that the working hours. He was required to work from 11am-8pm (very weird hours as they need to support middle east countries), nothing much to learn as he was in the support team. during the interview, they told him the working time is flexible, after donno how long, he would get the chance to learn programming, the pay was ok with no probation period. So he took the offer and got regretted after 2 weeks. So he tendered resignation letter and the immediate supervisor told him coz no probation period, he will need to serve for at least 3 months otherwise he will need to pay compensation. So no choice, the company made him seated at his desk doing nothing for 3  months  yawn.gif . Thank god, he got an offer before he left the company. flex.gif
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PM me, I will look for you tomorrow.
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Whats your pwise id.
PM me, I will look for you tomorrow.
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Sorry, I only been inform about Bank ID and given access card only...others not inform, so dunno what pwise ID use....only 4 of my friend got PC...others like me have to wait the comp to arrive (Risha said)...even has to share the empty cubicle temporary...huhuhu...

We'll be delight if you come to see us 2morrow...
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QUOTE(Slampuck @ Jul 16 2008, 08:43 PM)
Sorry, I only been inform about Bank ID and given access card only...others not inform, so dunno what pwise ID use....only 4 of my friend got PC...others like me have to wait the comp to arrive (Risha said)...even has to share the empty cubicle temporary...huhuhu...

We'll be delight if you come to see us 2morrow...
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look for Way En, Albert Lim or Wayen's room.

pm me your name, and describe me your physical outlook, better still with pics..:-)

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Mine is in CP.....i heard end of the year all staff in CP will transfer to LYL...is it true? biggrin.gif
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looks like a lot of us ends up doing testing, confirmed from source
most of us in training now will ends up in CTF, which what is it anyway?

how is the environment in hogan team and ccms team. Some might ends up there

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anyone heard of this post ? --> Virtual Relationship Consultant/ Manager

It's being opened for recruitment.
Is it a new post?
Any ideas?
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Anyone heard about this post too?
Incident Management Analyst which is in Bukit Jalil?
Saw the recruitment in jobstreet.
What is the salary range?

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QUOTE(sweemeng @ Jul 25 2008, 01:43 PM)
looks like a lot of us ends up doing testing, confirmed from source
most of us in training now will ends up in CTF, which what is it anyway?

how is the environment in hogan team and ccms team. Some might ends up there
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CTF team is full of positive working energy! and a good place to grow! (a lot of bnking application will fall into CTF for testing, so you get to learn a lot on bnking app)
Hogan and CCMS too, and concentrating on corebanking and credit cards related.

QUOTE(smallP @ Jul 25 2008)
How about under sue?
sue what? which team?

QUOTE(hskia @ Jul 25 2008)
anyone heard of this post ? --> Virtual Relationship Consultant/ Manager

It's being opened for recruitment.
Is it a new post?
Any ideas?
NoelCantona?
Yes, my friend interviewed for this position. I believe this is abt gearing new prj for the banks and exploring the opportunity to enhance.
So the guy for this post. must have excellent communication skills. I would see this as a good position to grow if you are good! :-)


QUOTE(bit_bit @ Jul 25 2008)
Anyone heard about this post too?
Incident Management Analyst which is in Bukit Jalil?
Saw the recruitment in jobstreet.
What is the salary range?
I believe this is a support position. Assigning tickets, talking to business user and resolve the issue.
Else, you send the tickets to the developer here in ISCM, call them escalate, and follow up then close the ticket?
And the salary range, you can talk to the person who is going to interview you.
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QUOTE(hskia @ Jul 27 2008, 02:33 AM)
anyone heard of this post ? -->  Virtual Relationship Consultant/ Manager

It's being opened for recruitment.
Is it a new post?
Any ideas?
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Hi cantona,

thanks for the reply. so i heard your fren recently went for this interview.
Do u have any idea what the interview is like? lots of tests on communication skills?
i wonder if they are recruiting in large numbers for this post or just 1 .
hope you could share with us.
Thanks
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i believe is probably 2-3 post.
there is no test, just interview(s).
be yourself, if you are fit, they will take you.
dont worry! :-)
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anyone here who work in Call centre / Service Banker handling customer frm singapore at menara LYL, PJ ?

i received an email saying that im selected n will start next 2 weeks...

wanna know some experience or feedback whether is good ornot ?

thanks...
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im asked to attend interview as Global Support Officer.

Is the working environment really suck @ Bukit Jalil?

tell me more bout it anyone?
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i have been working in scope @ Bukit Jalil almost 2 years, have good have bad, never try never know, but im thiking to cabut next year, salary not enuf to use.
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Scope Bkt Jalil have a few good looking girls aye? tongue.gif Wish I'm working in an environment like that haha


Added on September 9, 2008, 12:25 amScope Bkt Jalil have a few good looking girls aye? tongue.gif Wish I'm working in an environment like that haha

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Anyone in the QA department ??? am joining in Nov...

btw, maybe i have skip some of the posting...

Is there any loan package for staffs?? as i am getting a home loan...


Added on September 16, 2008, 4:04 pmtalking about pretty lad...... i saw some during my first and second interview.... and when i went over to collect my offer letter.

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may i know is there any vacancy still available for part time services banker at TPM??
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vacancy always open for service banker at tpm as almost everyweek got newbies resign there...and almost everyweek also there's new recruitment for service banker..either at tpm or lyl...turnover rate for service banker always high so if u interested u can try apply it through jobstreet..i cannot guarantee u'll get it but from what i see..u'll get called up for interview very quick once u apply for it...

not sure for part-time tho but it AFAIK, SCB only take full-timer only but u can try ur luck tho

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I left Scope, ISCM after 1 year (Aug 08')
I still think this is the best place to gain experience and work.

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Erm, I have been working in ISCM (I afraid people confused between ITSC, SCOPE and ISCM) for 2 years in customer experience division and allow me to share experience working in this company:

1. Great exposure because you might be able to get in touch with people all around the world, built application that target different countries.

2. Annual leave is about 18D ~ 22D (or even more)..depend on your job grade; So AL + PH + sick leave, is around 30++ days.

3. For my division, we practice flexi working hour, meaning you can choose to work from 9AM, 10AM and 11AM, however this is still depend on which team, and whether your team manager offer this benefit.

4. Work from home is on the way deliver to us...

5. Relationship among colleagues is consider good; however, office politics cannot be avoided especially we are talking about a huge organization, matrix organization so you know the politic is multiplied lor.

6. Pay, pay is OK I think; but I think this is people to people basis...Bonus depend on your rating, rating 1->5, A->E, so if you are 1A, you are god like and bonus will be huge, and if you are 5E..hmm, take care.

7. Always struggle with budgeting issue and technology; but remember business come first, so if business say no budget, then your great idea (application) will be dropped...so don't get sad and relax...and this is the most important point people start complaining "Sux lar", "like this also can", and well, this is the fact.

8. Recommend not to join when you are first grad, salary increment is slow...however, join if you are in AP or SAP level maybe a better choice @@ Or another option is make sure you ask for more salary when you join the company...

9. Rollout an application need to follow a lot of processes, and a lot of processes come with A LOT of documents, and processes are always slow, take time and tedious most of the case.....

10. Location, LRT train, tons of food stalls around the office area (Menara LYL, Menara Axis, Crystal Plaza), PJ is definitely a better working location compare to KL lar...my personal opinion (compare to citibank..), Ah, forgot, Got aeroline some more.. Open car park is about RM5 ~ RM7/Day

11. Fitness First in Menara Axis, most people gain weight after join Scope, me too, 85KG -> 93.5KG...

12. Work pressure, well depend but I think still manageable.

13. Working hour, hmmm I think is ok, normally I work from 10AM ~ 7PM and most of the days I can leave office around 7 ~ 7.30PM except I have rollout which can only carry out after bank office hours.


Overall, personally I think if you want me to give a rating (1-10) for this company I would say 7.5, as this is my 6th company I work in..

And also ask yourself if you are choosing a good company or a good boss..

Hope this help whistling.gif

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may i know is there any vacancy still available for part time services banker at TPM??
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if service banker just forget it.. either in TPM or LYL.. mainly just a call center dealing with singapore consumer banking..
the other position you MUST avoid is Global Operation Officer.. don't ask me why, but please no..no

But if you get an offer to be with ISCM or IT-365 for other position, just give it a try.. as NoelCantona said "this is the best place to gain experience and work."

I've been with this StanChart group for almost 6 years cool2.gif and the worst i got for bonus was 2.5 months..

erk where else you can find a place where the CEO is a party animal (ISCM) or can jamming together in the studio and on stage(IT-365) ?? icon_rolleyes.gif
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anyone attended interview with scope recently and how long do u wait for their offer after the interview? thx
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i think my fren got hire immediately after the interview and signed the offer letter 2 days after interview...
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may i know what position ur friend apply for??
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i m being offered a position at scope as support engineer...unfortunately it is a contract one...
During the interview, the interviewer mentioned that the position is a permanent one, but now it ends up as contract...and with all the benefits being downsized..bonus pun takde...so shock to hear tht!
i m tinking if it really worth dumping my permanent job (with lesser salary, small bonus, far from home, xpensive parking rate, but it's permanent) and jump over to this place?
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why dont you ask Scope why change to contract?
and why not ask if they can give you permanent if you lowered your asking? *dont talk abt lowering until they indicate so, or you cannot tahan.

ask, you wont know what you will be getting..they are quite reasonable employer though..
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hi trust, i think a support position...
blabby, ya..y u din ask them back...?? most importantly how come permanent become contract edy?
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Applied for BA in Scope but not shorlisted.
May I know any "lubang" to get in?

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yea...of course i got asked the lady on the phone (i guess she is jst a receptionist, mayb HR clerk), and she can only mention tht they have changed their employment policy to contract-based, for all the position offered. I even mentioned that the interviewer (given the interviewer's name) did said it is a permanent position (during my interview session), but she could only say they have jst recently changed, When i asked 'why'...she can't tell..only said it applies to all other positions as well...
in fact, she even checked with the interviewer, but as said...it has just 'CHANGED'.

I expressed my dissappointment to the lady (who called) coz i really felt as if they r not 'sincere' in offering this job.

If i m to be offered a permanent one, i can straight away agree with it ardi...now i hav to think twice!
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coz they are not financially stable due to current economic situation.

so, they are concern on the headcount.

if contract, they can kill you off anytime they want! tongue.gif
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heard they freeze hiring ppl unless necessary and with valid and strong justification..wonder any impact of the financial turmoil...but everytime their ceo keep sending out email telling ppl everything is good n steady..hehe
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yea, definately the current economic situation does affect them. But wonder, if they r to offer contract-based jobs, is there really anyone who's willing jump over to have an 'insecure' contract job during recession?
well, unless tht person is jobless lar..
sad case.
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QUOTE(Airborne @ Oct 4 2008, 05:58 PM)
vacancy always open for service banker at tpm as almost everyweek got newbies resign there...and almost everyweek also there's new recruitment for service banker..either at tpm or lyl...turnover rate for service banker always high so if u interested u can try apply it through jobstreet..i cannot guarantee u'll get it but from what i see..u'll get called up for interview very quick once u apply for it...

not sure for part-time tho but it AFAIK, SCB only take full-timer only but u can try ur luck tho
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see my signature... notworthy.gif
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Thinkmobile

I talked to some of my x-mates in Std. Chart.
Std. Chart. concentrates on Asia Pacific and yes they do pump some $ back and yes financial turmoil means everyone(all my ex-comp) kena at least 30% down share price...even HSBC.
But are they throwing staff already? If not, just STFU and stop spreading negative "impression"?

Others,

Again, joining is a great experience and exposures because they have a great CMMI in place!!
If they are hiring in contract, you can reconsider, but if permanent and labour law in Malaysia with attractive salary. Go ahead mate!!
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Thinkmobile

I talked to some of my x-mates in Std. Chart.
Std. Chart. concentrates on Asia Pacific and yes they do pump some $ back and yes financial turmoil means everyone(all my ex-comp) kena at least 30% down share price...even HSBC.
But are they throwing staff already? If not, just STFU and stop spreading negative "impression"?

Others,

Again, joining is a great experience and exposures because they have a great CMMI in place!!
If they are hiring in contract, you can reconsider, but if permanent and labour law in Malaysia with attractive salary. Go ahead mate!!
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is the job scope varies greatly between development teams/groups? i went for a interview for GSSC, but i think the job does not suit me.
i m quite disappointed when the interviewer explained to me the on-going project and job responsibilities as i expect banking software should be highly complicated.
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Well, i m abit skeptical on joining as a contract staff. I m putting hope to join in as to learn (as mch as i can) on midrange support, at least during that one-year contract, dun even mind of working night shift.
Pay is more or less the same. Skills tht i can obtain, hopefully more, especially when supporting banking applications. Heard that the team is just newly setup to provide support for some newly deployed applications.
If things don't turn out well, they might get my contract ended after one year, during then i'l be jobless...unless the skills tht i get is useful enuff to join other banks.
so much in dilema!
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In Scope international need to work on Saturday? If yes full day or half day??
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depends on what job u applied
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do they offer bonus or epf for contractors? anyone working on contract here for Scope?
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QUOTE(T+1 @ Oct 28 2008, 11:07 PM)
is the job scope varies greatly between development teams/groups? i went for a interview for GSSC, but i think the job does not suit me.
i m quite disappointed when the interviewer explained to me the on-going project and job responsibilities as i expect banking software should be highly complicated.
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If it doesn't suit you. Leave it. Better to join and quit after a while. You leave a bad impression there.
Banking software is complicated. But it depends which proj. / dept. you are in and what job you are taking.
They have a framework ready, they have capable seniors. So you will have guide/training/knowledge sharing all the time.

QUOTE(blabby @ Oct 29 2008, 10:04 AM)
Well, i m abit skeptical on joining as a contract staff. I m putting hope to join in as to learn (as mch as i can) on midrange support, at least during that one-year contract, dun even mind of working night shift.
Pay is more or less the same. Skills tht i can obtain, hopefully more, especially when supporting banking applications. Heard that the team is just newly setup to provide support for some newly deployed applications.
If things don't turn out well, they might get my contract ended after one year, during then i'l be jobless...unless the skills tht i get is useful enuff to join other banks.
so much in dilema!
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See, the concept of taking contract is:
1. Make sure your salary is high enough to take the offer
2. Make sure you can perform well, and communicate well with other teammates and bosses
3. You will be a permanent in less than a year

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Hi
In Scope international need to work on Saturday? If yes full day or half day??
Thanks
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What post?, Why don't you check with your boss?, Why are you worry?, And yes, some dept require to commit/perform changes on Saturday morning/evening or even Sundays!
But you get REPLACEMENT leave.
You need to plan your things well, perform well. Take your leave, long stretch leave to relax. And get your @$$ back to work.

QUOTE(erica13 @ Nov 1 2008, 02:33 AM)
do they offer bonus or epf for contractors? anyone working on contract here for Scope?
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ask the HR, the hiring team (Vivian/Wendy) can you? is your interview, is you to prepare the question to ask.
as far as i am concern no bon. but epf* you double check.








To sum up all, again and again:
Scope is popular. They are looking far ahead of other IT company. They have a good process in place.
They are having a sustainable business and pipeline.
Growing Individual? > it all boils down to yourself in every company. Again with Scope - equal opportunity
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erica,

i hv asked the HR on this question before, they said got epf, but no bonus for contract staff. But still it is better for u to check with them personally.
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thanks for d info noel and blabby. smile.gif
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i get an offer........ but i just curious that why there is still another person (from other company at damansara) ask me to go their company signing the contract???
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may due to u're under agency.

QUOTE(Airborne @ Oct 4 2008, 05:58 PM)
not sure for part-time tho but it AFAIK, SCB only take full-timer only but u can try ur luck tho

dono what nonsense r u talking abt with afaik.

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hi,
I heard that standard chartered hong kong is going to retrench some of the employee, how's the situation in scope international? any news regarding retrenchment?

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i got an offer for service banker a.k.a call centre?? and i agreed..still not yet sign the offer letter..few days ago i also got an offer from other bank which is salary wise is better...

1. the agency said that if i rejected the offer Scope will blacklist my name and send it to other bank as well..is it true?? anyone can clarify me on this?
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Can I know normally where do Scope employees park their cars ? ANy snatch thieves cases reported around there? I heard it's not that safe around the LRT area. Any advise or tips would be much appreciated. smile.gif
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I heard that standard chartered hong kong is going to retrench some of the employee, how's the situation in scope international? any news regarding retrenchment?
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And from our g00g. search engine you can easily verify that, can't you?....n00b shi*
"Oct 29, 2008 The Straits Times
Stanchart lays off senior staff"

QUOTE(topijermen)
i got an offer for service banker a.k.a call centre?? and i agreed..still not yet sign the offer letter..few days ago i also got an offer from other bank which is salary wise is better...

1. the agency said that if i rejected the offer Scope will blacklist my name and send it to other bank as well..is it true?? anyone can clarify me on this?
AFAIK, yes Scope do blacklist(without a valid/convincing reason), if you are Scope you will also blacklist.

Sending it to other bank? Why?
IMHO, your agency is the one sending to other bank, this is because your agency get some $$ from your pay.
For e.g.(not taking responsibility for this statement): Bank A pays Agency B 500 to hire garbage man. Agency B pays the garbage man 300. Lets sign the contract for 1 year.

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Can I know normally where do Scope employees park their cars ? ANy snatch thieves cases reported around there? I heard it's not that safe around the LRT area. Any advise or tips would be much appreciated.
Ok, I am no longer with Scope but some of my mate told me they are still in the building. If I got it wrong, pardon me.

If you work in :
1. Menara Axis/Crystal Plaza - Most of them take season car park opposite CP or the carpark behind Asia Jaya LRT (quite famous for car kena jack, waja/wira)
2. LYL - Most of them park near the makan stalls there / RM3 parking at the end opposite ISS or season park below LYL building or car jockey up there.

Other alternative(risk/FOC):
1. Roadside (saman time = breakfast and lunch time)
2. Near the Hussein Onn eye hospital something, behind ARMADA hotel (need to walk quite a distance, risk kena rompak or car kena jack though throughout my 3 mths parking there it was all good.)

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Thanks noelcantona..i'm afraid the season park below LYL have all been taken up as informed by the HR...Do you have any friends working in LYL that is going to give up the season parking?, like he's resigning or transferred to other office, etc. I can pay some $$ for getting the season pass. hehe. Thanks.
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Thanks noelcantona..i'm afraid the season park below LYL have all been taken up as informed by the HR...Do you have any friends working in LYL that is going to give up the season parking?, like he's resigning or transferred to other office, etc. I can pay some $$ for getting the season pass. hehe. Thanks.
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What I heard, they want to come out with a new system on season parking in CP and LYL.. Bidding system, highest bidder will get the spot..
On currect situation, you can forget about season parking..
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Hi Guys, I work there before IT365. The people there is nice and they are fun to work with.

despite the above , the working environment is sucks..

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I join IT365 since Sept 2008 as a centralised ops exec contract for 1 year... its not a support related job but i liased with the support team very much(Chennai India anyone?) I actually handle some daily application & systems during my shift which is 12 hours and on monthly period i only worked for 16 ~ 18 days only since its a shift based occupation. Pay is ok but the best part is the allowance that i got whch may about 40~60% of my current basic pay & it depends on how rajin i am. Workload is ok & during weekend its getting better since not much work during the weekend. Working enviroment is ok for me coz people at IT365 is very friendly and if im doing night shifts dress code doesnt apply(shorts, sandal).... bottomline is if ur a fresh grad n looking for good experience SCB is a good choice provided u got the balls n motivation to join the force.
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QUOTE(Sarjan_Bilko @ Nov 23 2008, 03:25 AM)
I join IT365 since Sept 2008 as a centralised ops exec contract for 1 year... its not a support related job but i liased with the support team very much(Chennai India anyone?) I actually handle some daily application & systems during my shift which is 12 hours and on monthly period i only worked for 16 ~ 18 days only since its a shift based occupation. Pay is ok but the best part is the allowance that i got whch may about 40~60% of my current basic pay & it depends on how rajin i am. Workload is ok & during weekend its getting better since not much work during the weekend. Working enviroment is ok for me coz people at IT365 is very friendly and if im doing night shifts dress code doesnt apply(shorts, sandal).... bottomline is if ur a fresh grad n looking for good experience SCB is a good choice provided u got the balls n motivation to join the force.
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how is the rotation for 12 hour shift ? every week change ?
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QUOTE(Nuke @ Nov 22 2008, 02:50 AM)
What I heard, they want to come out with a new system on season parking in CP and LYL.. Bidding system, highest bidder will get the spot..
On currect situation, you can forget about season parking..
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Nuke, are you with Scope now?
I last heard they actually ABOLISH the bidding system and go back to the conventional queuing.

Erica,
No, I do not have any friends there who plan/giving up their season parking.
What I suggest is, you be there early and park on ground floor/1st floor in LYL (jockey) which is RM5 a day.
Else, reach there at 715am, and get a place near the makan area near LYL its FOC anyway!
Early birds get the worm.
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Thanks for the update. However, anyone who wish to let go their season pass in LYL can always PM me. I'm willing to offer some $$ to acquire it.

THANKS!! biggrin.gif
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Hi,

Anyone here as analyst programmer - wealth management ? Hope you can share ur experiences.

More to programming(technical)? Or more to handling customers complaints(non-technical).
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want to know more about service banker job scope...
i know it's similar to customer service.

i'm interested to apply for service banker (bukit jalil, tpm) advertised@jobstreet

anyone can explain what does it means by NO MIDNIGHT SHIFT?
* Eable to work in shift-hours environment (no midnight shift) and staggered hours.

can explain here roughly how many shift for service banker?
is it from morning to evening & evening to night or what? i don't understand.

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QUOTE(kilmer @ Dec 23 2008, 12:43 AM)
want to know more about service banker job scope...
i know it's similar to customer service.

i'm interested to apply for service banker (bukit jalil, tpm) advertised@jobstreet

anyone can explain what does it means by NO MIDNIGHT SHIFT?
* Eable to work in shift-hours environment (no midnight shift) and staggered hours.

can explain here roughly how many shift for service banker?
is it from morning to evening & evening to night or what? i don't understand.
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only 2 shifts... start frm 7am-4pm and 4pm - 12 am...if u based at bkt jalil, u might require to work at
menara LYL on saturday alternate...
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wah no midnight shift is good !
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anyone from ITSC PSS new setup team ? hmm.gif
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wah no midnight shift is good !
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may I know how's the pay for mainframe application IS ? like primary and secondary support

I heard primary is around 6~7k, and secondary support up to 12k


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slidewave22 - thanks 4 the info... very useful...

1 more Q...

what about working days? mon-sat? no weekends at all?

thanks..
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slidewave22 - thanks 4 the info... very useful...

1 more Q...

what about working days? mon-sat? no weekends at all?

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has anyone taken the staff housing loan facilities under ISCM/Standard Chartered?? What kind of % rate do they offer? any conditions attached?

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Any application primary support IS here ?
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has anyone taken the staff housing loan facilities under ISCM/Standard Chartered?? What kind of % rate do they offer? any conditions attached?

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condition is u need to work for the group for 1 year and above.
it's not as low as those employed under scb group. for scope's staff, if i remember clearly it's only 1.x% less than the normal market rate.
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QUOTE(d8kd @ Dec 30 2008, 10:30 PM)
condition is u need to work for the group for 1 year and above.
it's not as low as those employed under scb group. for scope's staff, if i remember clearly it's only 1.x% less than the normal market rate.
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yeah.. better go and get conventional loans.. even the margin also 85% not 90%..

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Hi, I would like to share my first hand experience working under IT-365 Malaysia Sdn Bhd.

To be honest, I was a Service Banker with experience working for Alliance Bank as a Junior Executive for Credit Administration. Yet, the pay offered there was like crap! But since it was Customer service (Service Banker) I thought, well the responsibilities is lesser than Credit Admin, so I shouldn't be complaining.

In addition, when you are in the interview they always say "Standard Chartered Bank" and NEVER MENTION ANYTHING ABOUT IT-365! I was shocked when I was given the offer letter and saw the "IT-365" there. The offer letter has to be picked up in TPM, and you know something really retarded about this company? They will promise you the world before you join, and once you are in... They will ask you back "Was it in Black and white?"

I felt cheated when they said I would be based in LYL and there will be mileage claim if I am sent to TPM during weekends. (usually morning shifters)

I worked there for the first 3 months, my god! I wouldn't expect Customer Service to be so .... different. Instead of helping people with their problems, it seems that they are more towards "answer the calls" and it's not a matter of number of solved cases. As long as you have the above 60 call numbers (Inbound) you are in the safe side.

I was the worst! I never hit the 60 base line as it's entirely against my principle of "Responsive, and Trustworthy" This is entirely due to the fact that Customer's who call in trust us to help them in any issue regarding their banking needs and we have the responsibility to explain to them about our procedures, But not here in IT-365.

All in all, great many who works there have really no where else to go. Some of my colleagues whom were the best people who I have ever met so far is only there because they haven't been offered a different position in other places. And some is just waiting to move to local SCB branch after 1 year of service.

After the third month, I was given a letter to sign, stating that my Probation have been extended .... Can you imagine this? the reason, is because I haven't been hitting my target *60 calls* therefore, I am not PRODUCTIVE and COMMITED enough to be considered and confirmed.

Let me tell you how my LIFE is there, I would reach office as early as 6.30 AM or 7 Am. Parking has always been free for me in LYL. I would log in to the system early, do my follow ups and than start work at 8 am - 4pm. Then I would have to listen to some "Debrief" session. which I find a total waste of time, when they could have just go straight to the point instead of wasting time walking around the garden.

I would do my wrap up and go home as late as 10 or 11 pm. Can you imagine what time I go home when i'm in the Evening shift?

In addition to this, the managers there are total retards who know nothing about Banking and financial act or maybe they are just stupid enough to believe they are actually working in a Bank. As they would threaten New joiners "We will make sure you will not get another job in any other Banks, if you leave our company."

I'm just keeping my laughs to myself whenever I hear this coming of their mouth, as I would like to ask them "What Banking Act or amendment have I breached? and better you aren't even recognized as a Bank !"

I've checked with Bank Negara and guess what? IT-365 isn't even govern by Bank Negara as a Financial institution nor is has any rights over banking and financial acts. (Except for money Laundering and Compliance)

As such, I would say that for those SPM holders who has no other job offer, by all means go ahead and save money here as they pay highly to Managers with degree? I highly doubt so as they don't act like they deserve any respect.

if you're a degree holder/master holder and wants to work as a Service banker, My advise to you is ... Congratz! you've just been wasting 5 years of University/college education working under a management who can't even appreciate commited staff. Do you know what they told me after all I have given to them???


"You're not showing any commitment"

If I wasn't keeping my cool, I would have stood up and show him my middle finger and just walk away.
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hm ic tks for ur sharing. better u find other jobs lah bro my advice to u.
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kinnel.. this service banker things really give ITSC the bad reputation.. but serve them well laa esp for those so called 'Managers'
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thank god im making right decision not joining them as service banker, no wonder they always advertised the job ad like
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read a lot of bad feedback here .. but i dont feel and encounter such things.. smile.gif

anyway, i'm with ISCM too, specifically scope .. 1 yrs + already.
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QUOTE(eeki @ Dec 31 2008, 04:14 PM)
read a lot of bad feedback here .. but i dont feel and encounter such things.. smile.gif

anyway, i'm with ISCM too, specifically scope .. 1 yrs + already.
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i do received moderate comment about ISCM where one of my friends had worked there for > 2 years. but this IT-365 Malaysia Sdn Bhd, i guess bad > good.

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my opinion, it's depend on what department, team, roles and country of the project they involved with. doesn't matter you are in ISCM or IT365. even with scope, those my friends who doing support really really complaint a lot! hehe.
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Scope is managed fairly well, ICSM/ITSC and etc. but this IT-365 or more specifically virtual banking department has a very good Head of department, Mr. Franky.

However, because of the few bad apples who were given the "manager" title are the ones who screws everything up.

Let me give you an exam given by one of the "Singaporean" Manager who has a BIG BELLY ... * I wonder when was the last time he has seen his toes? Ahem back to topic, he asked us ...

"I eat the same food as you do, we drink the same water, and we even go to the same toilet, why is it that I remember more than you all do?"

To be honest, I wanted to give him an answer straight in the face

"Because you're a Singaporean, of course you know more about Singapore than us. And more importantly you have been doing this work like for 1 or 2 years? Doesn't take an Einstein to figure out that you can at least remember so much."

Of course, he then mentioned that he was also from MENSA .... one of the TOP youth communities in Singapore. Of course, this guy mentioned that he "withdraw" from the society/school because he felt that everyone there were "Acting" to be smart.

Well, If he truly was from MENSA, he should be in NASA now and not IT-365 in MALAYSIA as a Service Manager. Perhaps, this is how highly Intelligent he is?

I have my doubts of course that the Stray dogs outside LYL have a better brain then he does. Because least, those dogs are still in their own country and not in Singapore being a Customer Service manager.

I don't want to defame IT-365 as I believe in their contribution to Singapore's development, and Malaysia's Economy and making the people feel alittle lest poorer.

However, the people from Virtual Banking Department truly deserves a pat in the back, and salute for working so hard and it's a pity that they aren't in a better company where their potential would have been more profound.

I would only say that the Managers from Virtual banking Division ..... specifically a Service Manager who Back stabs his staff, talks cow and dung stories, and not to forget ... the arrogance of his ignorance. In the next post .. I would like to share with everyone how I lost my respect to IT-365 Malaysia S/B.


Added on December 31, 2008, 10:59 pmCustomer Service, Is defined as a profession that provides solution to clients/customers who encounters difficulty in a purchased/paid product and service.

Let me share an experience which made me realize, I wasn't with the RIGHT PARTNER... This is based on a true story I witness while seated beside on of the least appreciated Service Banker in the company

One evening around 8pm in the Evening, a customer called in requesting help from SCB to Temp Increase his Credit Limit. When asked for what reason, the customer said that his Brother has been hospitalized due to an accident in a foreign country. Thus, request a temp limit increase for his Credit Card and would like to make an Online Purchase of an Airline Ticket. The Service Banker/ SB than walked up to the Duty Manager/DM for that evening and ask if there is any way he could help the Customer.

The DM with the big belly from Singapore then told the SB that the only way for the Customer/ CM to have a temp limit increase was to fax in a receipt of the deposit that his card requires to purchase the ticket. However, Temp limit increase doesn't apply for ONLINE PURCHASE. Temp limit can only be used by SWIPING the card physically/manually.

The SB walked backed to his seat, took a deep breathe and told the CM what the DM mentioned and that the only way for his Temp Limit to be approve if for him to Physically SWIPE the card to make a purchase. However, the airline only allows online purchase or through the phone. (Similar to Air Asia, except this is for Singapore).

So, the CM again pleaded to the SB for help, and asked if the Phone purchase was applicable, the SB then goes back to the DM to ask if it can be done.

the DM said "Why are you wasting time on this customer? I already said, it must be physically or manually. No online purchase is applicable."

the SB ask "But phone purchase?"

The Dm replied while showing a snobbish face "Do you UNDERSTAND what is Physically SWIPE ?"

Feeling irritated by the DM's response, the SB told the CM to fax in the Deposit and SB took full responsibility and will ensure that the CM will get his purchase done through the Internet.

The SB then called the Authorizers who then confirmed that ONLINE transaction can be done to purchase Airline Ticket, and only with the Evidence that a Deposit Receipt has been faxed over. Such a transaction is called "Purchase in lieu" apparently the MENSA DM from Singapore didn't know about such a thing, amazingly with his high Intelligence and Emotional Intelligence.

So the SB did as the Authorizers advised and called the CM back at 10 pm (Yes, it took a whole 3 hours)

And guess what happen? The CM managed to purchase the airline ticket THROUGH ONLINE and was able to visit his brother who was admitted in hospital.

Morale of the story is, in customer service line... we must always uphold what we believe is right, and not what the managers think is right. Because the managers especially those with full of EGO and (MENSA drop out) would not want YOU to be better than him.

this is just one story I have observed happen to my colleague, and many other times when a humble suggestion/opinion was shot down by this Fat Mensa Manager. Who in the end applied the ideas and suggestion given by the SBs and claim it as his own.


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QUOTE(topijermen @ Nov 14 2008, 03:35 PM)
i got an offer for service banker a.k.a call centre?? and i agreed..still not yet sign the offer letter..few days ago i also got an offer from other bank which is salary wise is better...

1. the agency said that if i rejected the offer Scope will blacklist my name and send it to other bank as well..is it true?? anyone can clarify me on this?
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HI,

Please make a copy of that offer letter with the threat, go to labor office and make an official complain.

This people think they know everything about Banking and Financial Act/ Employment law. If they ever give me something like you mention in Black and white, I would make a police report, and file an official complain in the Industrial Court.

Again, There should be no Reason why should you reject an offer and get black listed, as you had not committed any crime or breach any law. Therefore, arrogant employers such as these should be taught a lesson not to mess around with us (Employees).

They will give you all sorts of nonsense but end of the day, they are no body who wants to be some body. Remember, we have limited freedom of rights and speech. But it will be sufficient to give them a hard time if the "Press" gives them abit of pressure about threatening employees.

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QUOTE(khenhh @ Dec 31 2008, 10:31 PM)
Scope is managed fairly well, ICSM/ITSC and etc. but this IT-365 or more specifically virtual banking department has a very good Head of department, Mr. Franky.

However, because of the few bad apples who were given the "manager" title are the ones who screws everything up.

Let me give you an exam given by one of the "Singaporean" Manager who has a BIG BELLY ... * I wonder when was the last time he has seen his toes? Ahem back to topic, he asked us ...

"I eat the same food as you do, we drink the same water, and we even go to the same toilet, why is it that I remember more than you all do?"

To be honest, I wanted to give him an answer straight in the face

"Because you're a Singaporean, of course you know more about Singapore than us. And more importantly you have been doing this work like for 1 or 2 years? Doesn't take an Einstein to figure out that you can at least remember so much."

Of course, he then mentioned that he was also from MENSA .... one of the TOP youth communities in Singapore. Of course, this guy mentioned that he "withdraw" from the society/school because he felt that everyone there were "Acting" to be smart.

Well, If he truly was from MENSA, he should be in NASA now and not IT-365 in MALAYSIA as a Service Manager. Perhaps, this is how highly Intelligent he is?

I have my doubts of course that the Stray dogs outside LYL have a better brain then he does. Because least, those dogs are still in their own country and not in Singapore being a Customer Service manager.

I don't want to defame IT-365 as I believe in their contribution to Singapore's development, and Malaysia's Economy and making the people feel alittle lest poorer.

However, the people from Virtual Banking Department truly deserves a pat in the back, and salute for working so hard and it's a pity that they aren't in a better company where their potential would have been more profound.

I would only say that the Managers from Virtual banking Division ..... specifically a Service Manager who Back stabs his staff, talks cow and dung stories, and not to forget ... the arrogance of his ignorance. In the next post .. I would like to share with everyone how I lost my respect to IT-365 Malaysia S/B.


Added on December 31, 2008, 10:59 pmCustomer Service, Is defined as a profession that provides solution to clients/customers who encounters difficulty in a purchased/paid product and service.

Let me share an experience which made me realize, I wasn't with the RIGHT PARTNER... This is based on a true story I witness while seated beside on of the least appreciated Service Banker in the company

One evening around 8pm in the Evening, a customer called in requesting help from SCB to Temp Increase his Credit Limit. When asked for what reason, the customer said that his Brother has been hospitalized due to an accident in a foreign country. Thus, request a temp limit increase for his Credit Card and would like to make an Online Purchase of an Airline Ticket. The Service Banker/ SB than walked up to the Duty Manager/DM for that evening and ask if there is any way he could help the Customer.

The DM with the big belly from Singapore then told the SB that the only way for the Customer/ CM to have a temp limit increase was to fax in a receipt of the deposit that his card requires to purchase the ticket. However, Temp limit increase doesn't apply for ONLINE PURCHASE. Temp limit can only be used by SWIPING the card physically/manually.

The SB walked backed to his seat, took a deep breathe and told the CM what the DM mentioned and that the only way for his Temp Limit to be approve if for him to Physically SWIPE the card to make a purchase. However, the airline only allows online purchase or through the phone. (Similar to Air Asia, except this is for Singapore).

So, the CM again pleaded to the SB for help, and asked if the Phone purchase was applicable, the SB then goes back to the DM to ask if it can be done.

the DM said "Why are you wasting time on this customer? I already said, it must be physically or manually. No online purchase is applicable."

the SB ask "But phone purchase?"

The Dm replied while showing a snobbish face "Do you UNDERSTAND what is Physically SWIPE ?"

Feeling irritated by the DM's response, the SB told the CM to fax in the Deposit and SB took full responsibility and will ensure that the CM will get his purchase done through the Internet.

The SB then called the Authorizers who then confirmed that ONLINE transaction can be done to purchase Airline Ticket, and only with the Evidence that a Deposit Receipt has been faxed over. Such a transaction is called "Purchase in lieu" apparently the MENSA DM from Singapore didn't know about such a thing, amazingly with his high Intelligence and Emotional Intelligence.

So the SB did as the Authorizers advised and called the CM back at 10 pm (Yes, it took a whole 3 hours)

And guess what happen? The CM managed to purchase the airline ticket THROUGH ONLINE and was able to visit his brother who was admitted in hospital.

Morale of the story is, in customer service line... we must always uphold what we believe is right, and not what the managers think is right. Because the managers especially those with full of EGO and (MENSA drop out) would not want YOU to be better than him.

this is just one story I have observed happen to my colleague, and many other times when a humble suggestion/opinion was shot down by this Fat Mensa Manager. Who in the end applied the ideas and suggestion given by the SBs and claim it as his own.


Added on January 1, 2009, 12:57 am
HI,

  Please make a copy of that offer letter with the threat, go to labor office and make an official complain.

This people think they know everything about Banking and Financial Act/ Employment law. If they ever give me something like you mention in Black and white, I would make a police report, and file an official complain in the Industrial Court.

  Again, There should be no Reason why should you reject an offer and get black listed, as you had not committed any crime or breach any law. Therefore, arrogant employers such as these should be taught a lesson not to mess around with us (Employees).

They will give you all sorts of nonsense but end of the day, they are no body who wants to be some body. Remember, we have limited freedom of rights and speech. But it will be sufficient to give them a hard time if the "Press" gives them abit of pressure about threatening employees.
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After reading your encounter on the least appreciated Service Banker, I give your friend a thumb up thumbup.gif !
The team need people like you and your friend to provide a good image of the Bank to Singaporean people... As the x-MENSA guy might intend to put a bad image on the services...

Btw, the x-MENSA guy is bringing down the MENSA or high IQ people... Btw, its very easy to enter into MENSA member ... and its nothing big deal about MENSA

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After reading your encounter on the least appreciated Service Banker, I give your friend a thumb up  thumbup.gif !
The team need people like you and your friend to provide a good image of the Bank to Singaporean people... As the x-MENSA guy might intend to put a bad image on the services... 

Btw, the x-MENSA guy is bringing down the MENSA or high IQ people... Btw, its very easy to enter into MENSA member ... and its nothing big deal about MENSA
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It's easy to enter Mensa? and wouldn't it be worst if someone is a DROP OUT ?


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m working in CTF, the testing Team....

and so far so good.

Due to many documents, ppl, processes involved in a project. Getting a small things done, have to ask multiple ppl, raise RMS (Request) whereby some time takes 2-5 days just to give a permission, to complete a task.

Parking is sucks here....if come late, and you are in no luck. You wont get a parking @ the open car park (infront of CP or near food stalls). Forcing you to park roadside, or, in basement parking.... (first day join, i have to spend RM25 in LYL's basement parking). Now, i came 730am, just to get a free parking infront of makan area.

Reports........ thats the one delaying me from going back home on time... crap... have to consolidate all the team member's report.... and have to sent on that day. Of coz, this only happen during SIT and UAT stage.

Applying leave...is slow. Have to ask..ask...ask.... Line manager multiple times... then only can approve... if reject...also last minutes... damn.

If you are fresh grad, well, you have to eat yourself as no one will actually teach you if you dont ask. Until today, i still have not being guided on company processes.... and i have to dig it myself.

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Does ISCM people do mainframe support for application ?
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Yes, they do support mainframe

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Are you fresh grad? which CTF team are u in? workwise, all those documents things is what u need to do, doesn't matter which team u in or which job u work at. i dont find it such a big issue. smile.gif u need to pandai2 arrange your work la. and your mgr didnt assign buddy to u? how come wei .. who's your line mgr? PM me. hehe
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I have met people working in the first floor till late hours of the night. I have met them since the first day they started work. From a highly positive person they became highly unmotivated people within 1 month!

With that kind of thing, who wants to work for them la. I can't say much about those in Phone Support, Service banker or Trade Department as i am not in that department but I can see from my own eyes, people working in those department is not under the RIGHT MANAGEMENT.
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Interesting... can I conclude that the RIGHT MANAGEMENT does not demoralize the people?
Nowadays, anybody can become manager as long that person can talk like a car flying to the moon...LOL


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m working in CTF, the testing Team....

and so far so good.

Due to many documents, ppl, processes involved in a project. Getting a small things done, have to ask multiple ppl, raise RMS (Request) whereby some time takes 2-5 days just to give a permission, to complete a task.

Parking is sucks here....if come late, and you are in no luck. You wont get a parking @ the open car park (infront of CP or near food stalls). Forcing you to park roadside, or, in basement parking.... (first day join, i have to spend RM25 in LYL's basement parking). Now, i came 730am, just to get a free parking infront of makan area.

Reports........ thats the one delaying me from going back home on time... crap... have to consolidate all the team member's report.... and have to sent on that day. Of coz, this only happen during SIT and UAT stage.

Applying leave...is slow. Have to ask..ask...ask.... Line manager multiple times... then only can approve... if reject...also last minutes... damn.

If you are fresh grad, well, you have to eat yourself as no one will actually teach you if you dont ask. Until today, i still have not being guided on company processes.... and i have to dig it myself.
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Now I know why emergency leave becomes a norm... LOL

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anyone...

1) how much is de basic salary 4 service banker? any ot, etc?
2) after we get email saying tat they will contact shortlisted within 21 days, how long we have 2 wait 4 dem 2 call/contact us 4 interview?
3) wat kind of Qs they will ask during interview? any exams, watsoever? tips..
4) how long is de duration of interview? 10-20mins?

tat's ol... tq..
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QUOTE(weretiger @ Jan 2 2009, 04:49 PM)
m working in CTF, the testing Team....

and so far so good.

Due to many documents, ppl, processes involved in a project. Getting a small things done, have to ask multiple ppl, raise RMS (Request) whereby some time takes 2-5 days just to give a permission, to complete a task.

Parking is sucks here....if come late, and you are in no luck. You wont get a parking @ the open car park (infront of CP or near food stalls). Forcing you to park roadside, or, in basement parking.... (first day join, i have to spend RM25 in LYL's basement parking). Now, i came 730am, just to get a free parking infront of makan area.

Reports........ thats the one delaying me from going back home on time... crap... have to consolidate all the team member's report.... and have to sent on that day. Of coz, this only happen during SIT and UAT stage.

Applying leave...is slow. Have to ask..ask...ask.... Line manager multiple times... then only can approve... if reject...also last minutes... damn.

If you are fresh grad, well, you have to eat yourself as no one will actually teach you if you dont ask. Until today, i still have not being guided on company processes.... and i have to dig it myself.
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yeah ... there r just way tooooo much redundancy processes and yet they always emphasize on QMF-Lite, how to reduce redundancy and so on ... doh rclxub.gif

argh ... i hate reports too ... how many ppl actually read the report ....... somehow, i just felt that ctf emphasize more on paper work rather than the actual testing. i can say more than 70% of the time we are preparing documents, from test plan, test strategies, kick off slides, daily reports, final reports, test cases to writing emails and so on. many times when i walked pass my team mate sitting in front of me, i can see her preparing a report ... arugh doh.gif
and the best thing is, the documents are copy from one to another, from the brd to fsd to test plan to test strategy to final report ... hahahaha ... u can see unedited paragraphs appearing in those documents ... of course with enhancement in certain portion ... so wat's the point of having so many pieces of docs?

well ... talking about leave, for those for intend to take leave or must take leave to go holiday or so on during dec, please dont join ctf. it's a rules from the big boss of ctf that no block leave or no long holiday at dec. y? bcos boss said must hav 50% attendance during holiday season. the 50% attendance are test engineers and another 50% who go on leave are higher rank ppl and of course ... the big boss himself.
and guess wat, the boss said ... dont book ur air ticket & hotel prior getting approval from your line manager ... wtf ...

be it fresh grad or not fresh grad, but if u do not hav any background in banking system, it's kinda suffer for u. as weretiger said, no one will guide u thru the company processes and the worst is their systems have quite a lot of different applications or interfaces. until today, i still cannot get the whole picture of how the flow is.

and yes, i do approach my lead for guidance, but i can tell u me lead sucks, she knows nothing, i dare to say that i now hav a better knowledge in the system than my lead does who hav been with the company for more than 3 years. there are times that i'm the one giving her information on how the system actually works doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif

overall, resource management sucks, a proper walkthru for every new staffs should be given rather than asking us to complete all the crappy e-learning courses.


Added on January 11, 2009, 12:16 am
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@ J'Daniel
Yes, they do support mainframe

@ weretiger
Are you fresh grad? which CTF team are u in? workwise, all those documents things is what u need to do, doesn't matter which team u in or which job u work at. i dont find it such a big issue. smile.gif u need to pandai2 arrange your work la. and your mgr didnt assign buddy to u? how come wei .. who's your line mgr? PM me. hehe
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documents are "mandatory" in ctf only. i heard from a colleague who was an ex-silverlake tester, and they dont hav so many rubbish docs in that company. fsd & test cases are enuf for u to do a good job as a tester.


Added on January 11, 2009, 12:19 am
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Interesting... can I conclude that the RIGHT MANAGEMENT does not demoralize the people?
Nowadays, anybody can become manager as long that person can talk like a car flying to the moon...LOL


Added on January 3, 2009, 1:04 am

Now I know why emergency leave becomes a norm... LOL
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besides that ... MC is quite common too, it's the 1st time in scope i heard ppl said, "hey ... tomolo i'm on MC leave" ... huh ... u can even determine that u need an MC in the future.

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The doc have its own purpose (e.g. CMMI), but a process that abuses to have many docs tend to create a lot of useless document which nobody reads. Therefore, everyday is purely creating doc with fake content.

Since CTF is a testing team, then why on earth it requires 50% attendance? Isn't it that it depends on number of on-going projects that require test verification? [Don't' make sense]

Its normal that newbies to a company is not guided properly .... and welcome to the real world, most lead know nothing.... hahahaha ...

Seems MC and EL is abused in the company.... Btw, does MC and EL contribute anything to performance review?

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Anyone here as Business Analyst in Scope? Hope you can share ur experiences smile.gif

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I would like to know too.. Is it more to meeting customer needs..Like system analyst?
How's the salary range?

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anyone tell me more abt it pls...
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anyone tell me more abt it pls...
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i went for the interview. the interviewer consistantly reminding me that i have to sit for few exams and must passed them. the exams are very very difficult.

what an interview! looks like they dont want u by telling u all these things. very negative interview!

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ok guys,
really need your advices and opinions,
few week ago, IT-365 offered me as credit management officer , according to them, this is a NEW UNIT. mean some kinds of collections and serve the singaporean customers.
I heard lot of bad feedback here, and start to get bad impression on this company.
yup,when during interview they keep mention Standard charted UK based but after that i get shocked when i look at the letter - IT-365 which i NEVER heard before.
how the working enviroment? really sucks?
they said the new team will base on the LYL building..Please advise me deeply before i make any decisions. Thank you so much
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QUOTE(cutealex @ Mar 13 2009, 12:13 AM)
ok guys,
really need your advices and opinions,
few week ago, IT-365 offered me as credit management officer , according to them, this is a NEW UNIT. mean some kinds of collections and serve the singaporean customers.
I heard lot of bad feedback here, and start to get bad impression on this company.
yup,when during interview they keep mention Standard charted UK based but after that i get shocked when i look at the letter - IT-365 which i NEVER heard before.
how the working enviroment? really sucks?
they said the new team will base on the LYL building..Please advise me deeply before i make any decisions. Thank you so much
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i work there for mere 2 mths, then resigned eventhough they pay me near to 5 figure (if consider bonus 5 figure liao)..cos working in that team really suc**! although the team not new, the most exp senior there is only 1.5 yrs! overall env consider ok, but the HOD too control freak!!!
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My friends who worked there as DC already given notice termination yesterday by the management, not only DC, AC also been told to leave (terminate). Its a major layoff for contract staff in Scope.

What I heard from my friend that there's less project been given this year, so there's not enough money to pay the staff salary. I dunno about the perm staff, but I would say they might well be retrentch soon based on performance. Its kinda cruel because my friends enrolled as Graduate Trainee, but been layoff less than a year. So how to find jobs with little experience gained? So stupid this Scope.





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I AGREE!!!! They should cut salary not terminate ppl like CIMB did!!! so tamak la the big2 bos..want to makan our salary & dont want 2 cut their salary n share with contract ppl...
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Im kinda confused with IT365, ITSM, scope, price solutions and standard chartered. rclxub.gif

There's an office located at TTDI rite? That is IT365 as well? and their benefits differ from each other or wut?
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QUOTE(cutealex @ Mar 13 2009, 12:13 AM)
ok guys,
really need your advices and opinions,
few week ago, IT-365 offered me as credit management officer , according to them, this is a NEW UNIT. mean some kinds of collections and serve the singaporean customers.
I heard lot of bad feedback here, and start to get bad impression on this company.
yup,when during interview they keep mention Standard charted UK based but after that i get shocked when i look at the letter - IT-365 which i NEVER heard before.
how the working enviroment? really sucks?
they said the new team will base on the LYL building..Please advise me deeply before i make any decisions. Thank you so much
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Basically they are a subsidized agent for SCBMB ... the position they offered you is a Collection officer biggrin.gif can get commision wink.gif NO recovery you get screwed.


Added on April 9, 2009, 10:34 pm
QUOTE(arthurlwf @ Jan 3 2009, 01:02 AM)
Interesting... can I conclude that the RIGHT MANAGEMENT does not demoralize the people?
Nowadays, anybody can become manager as long that person can talk like a car flying to the moon...LOL


Added on January 3, 2009, 1:04 am

Now I know why emergency leave becomes a norm... LOL
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imagine, you come in straight as a Manager with no leadership skills what so ever, you fail to motivate your staff to work for you, they leave one by one and you are losing your team. Yet you dare call yourself a Manager? Shit, i've seen beggars leading larger group of Hobos then this so called manager.

I got sick and tired of the company not because of the HoD, but the Retards who calls them self Managers, not only they don't try to understand you, they make you feel worst!

My car broke down, Twice in a single day and I tried my best to go to work, and this Manager was in office or god knows where kept calling me to ask when i'm going to work.

HELLO ... instead of offering me a hand, to come to my rescue, you are asking me STUPID question like when I'll go to work ... Shit, what's a bloody ROSTER for then? might as well throw it away or stuff it up his Arse. when i was IN alliance Bank, my car broke down, not only my Vice President told me not to go to work, she even paid for my bills! How could you not respect this kind of Boss? Compared to this ... *Manyzer* who pressures you at the wrong time and using the wrong words.

sorry, when i think back of what happen and the hardship i had to go through ... I realize I'm a bigger man today. I realized, I have better leadership skills, people skills, and most importantly I know how to manage people compared to this drunken monkeys who call themselves Managers.

What a Joke!

My name is pretty obvious here, so if the managers were reading this .. they might know who i am, but let me tell you this, I'm not a Back stabber and if you have an issue with me, come talk to me 1 on 1 like a man.


Anyway, under the leadership of Mr. Franky IT 365 is slowly transforming , unlike Mr Alan and his Gang who doesn't know how to lead, I'm pretty much tired of this company.




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QUOTE(Dead4Life @ Mar 13 2009, 11:32 AM)
My friends who worked there as DC already  given notice termination yesterday by the management, not only DC, AC also been told to leave (terminate). Its a major layoff for contract staff in Scope.

What I heard from my friend that there's less project been given this year, so there's not enough money to pay the staff salary. I dunno about the perm staff, but I would say they might well be retrentch soon based on performance. Its kinda cruel because my friends enrolled as Graduate Trainee, but been layoff less than a year. So how to find jobs with little experience gained? So stupid this Scope.
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Perm still stay the same, but no more increment this year unless u are superb (to me team superb is can tahan work 7*24, aka ROBOT / Machine / Terminator) .....

Bonus..... cold then water.... (in some team, u didnt work for 1 year.. u will never get any so called pro rated bonus[ur grade will be very low].. its either got or no niah)
in t process of cabuting.....


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QUOTE(khenhh @ Apr 9 2009, 10:12 PM)
Basically they are a subsidized agent for SCBMB ... the position they offered you is a Collection officer biggrin.gif can get commision wink.gif NO recovery you get screwed.


Added on April 9, 2009, 10:34 pm

imagine, you come in straight as a Manager with no leadership skills what so ever, you fail to motivate your staff to work for you, they leave one by one and you are losing your team. Yet you dare call yourself a Manager? Shit, i've seen beggars leading larger group of Hobos then this so called manager.

I got sick and tired of the company not because of the HoD, but the Retards who calls them self Managers, not only they don't try to understand you, they make you feel worst!

My car broke down, Twice in a single day and I tried my best to go to work, and this Manager was in office or god knows where kept calling me to ask when i'm going to work.

HELLO ... instead of offering me a hand, to come to my rescue, you are asking me STUPID question like when I'll go to work ... Shit, what's a bloody ROSTER for then? might as well throw it away or stuff it up his Arse. when i was IN alliance Bank, my car broke down, not only my Vice President told me not to go to work, she even paid for my bills! How could you not respect this kind of Boss? Compared to this ... *Manyzer* who pressures you at the wrong time and using the wrong words.

sorry, when i think back of what happen and the hardship i had to go through ... I realize I'm a bigger man today. I realized, I have better leadership skills, people skills, and most importantly I know how to manage people compared to this drunken monkeys who call themselves Managers.

What a Joke!

My name is pretty obvious here, so if the managers were reading this .. they might know who i am, but let me tell you this, I'm not a Back stabber and if you have an issue with me, come talk to me 1 on 1 like a man.
Anyway, under the leadership of Mr. Franky IT 365 is slowly transforming , unlike Mr Alan and his Gang who doesn't know how to lead, I'm pretty much tired of this company.
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this one i agree......
u havent met the really high period *Manyzer* of my colleague..... she can check how many time my colleague goes to toilet and always wanna call ask her do work when she is in the toilet..... (*mind: its calling my colleague hp.... just imagine when u pang sai there picking up a phone call asking 'hei, i got thing to assign to u, where go ar? now is working hour ar...!')

example 2 so called *Manyzer* is overloaded u with work... say that u can handle it, u still got space to perform, and in mid year... u see ur appraisal BOOST up.... (*mind that here the bonus in on feb every year).... but we here got 2 review, mid and end year... and suddenly end year.... BOOOOST even down... reason is say u didnt perform ( go home early u no commitment, go back late u cannot perform) .... so... dun belief on mid year appraisal...

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Im kinda confused with IT365, ITSM, scope, price solutions and standard chartered.  rclxub.gif

There's an office located at TTDI rite? That is IT365 as well? and their benefits differ from each other or wut?
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at TTDI wan is Standard Chartered Bhd, means officially for malaysia branch...while the rest is subsidized / represent the name
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i thought tat one is bank?
saadiq main scb branch?

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Added on June 8, 2009, 6:25 pmAnyone from the core banking development team? how's the environment ?

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too much negative feedback ...hmmm
dont be too complaint bout the co.

not happy then just leave, find a better job ..tats it
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QUOTE(hitman_jay @ Jun 9 2009, 05:18 AM)
too much negative feedback ...hmmm
dont be too complaint bout the co.

not happy then just leave, find a better job ..tats it
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Atos EMC able to join SCOPE ma? hehe
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It seems that the feedback from the support side for scope is very negative doh.gif, anyone from the software development side ?  hmm.gif


Added on June 8, 2009, 6:25 pmAnyone from the core banking development team? how's the environment ?
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ohyah.... above few example of my feedback is on development side....
i am from development side.... tongue.gif tongue.gif

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I have went for interview this morning then call me back in afternoon and congrat me for being offered wub.gif
CUSTOMER SERVICE ENGINEER (6mth contract) in IT-365 cool.gif
Any comment?? icon_question.gif
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not sure hows going on at IT365, but their response... seems quite fast.... hmm.... hmm.gif
ever think of after 6 month what will you end up then?
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Customer Service Engineer ... sounds like a fancy title for what should be just IT helpdesk, hehe.
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have any vacant at data center in IT-365?
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Does this IT-365 company have a website?
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im working for IT-365 based in PJ at moment.
anyone from this forum work there as well?
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It seems that the feedback from the support side for scope is very negative doh.gif, anyone from the software development side ?  hmm.gif


Added on June 8, 2009, 6:25 pmAnyone from the core banking development team? how's the environment ?
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Hi, need some advice here... icon_question.gif

I just get offer to interview as a "Global Operation Officer-Account services" from Scope in Bukit Jalil Tech Park...

But see lots of bad comments about IT365... Can i know wats de differences between IT365, ISCM, TPM??? hmm.gif

Can somebody clarify more about so i can hv a better pic...

and, wats basically Global operation officers do? Is it also customer service?

Thanks for ur feedback... smile.gif

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it365 = helpdesk
iscm = software house

for your global operation officer it is banking operations i.e. you sit in front of a PC whole day and do banking processing.
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QUOTE(deodorant @ Jun 28 2009, 08:51 PM)
it365 = helpdesk
iscm = software house

for your global operation officer it is banking operations i.e. you sit in front of a PC whole day and do banking processing.
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Thanks for ur reply, deodorant... biggrin.gif

Any comment for this department?? hehe, from previous post seems majority in negative sights...

anyone work in this department b4? appreciate if u can share here

Will it base in bukit jalil or PJ?

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i have interview session soon! Global Operations Officer‏ at scope international.....jobstreet select was the medium...
Didnt mentioned much job description..any advice?smile.gif


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it365 = helpdesk
iscm = software house

for your global operation officer it is banking operations i.e. you sit in front of a PC whole day and do banking processing.
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thanks for the feedback..btw hows the interview session typically like?smile.gif

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QUOTE(kimmie @ Jun 29 2009, 10:33 AM)
i have interview session soon! Global Operations Officer‏ at scope international.....jobstreet select was the medium...
Didnt mentioned much job description..any advice?smile.gif
Kimmie, when's your interview? mayb we will meet soon, haha..

anybody can share more about this position? icon_question.gif icon_question.gif icon_question.gif

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Kimmie, when's your interview? mayb we will meet soon, haha..

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Basic = 1.8
Contract allowance = 500

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Basic = 1.8
Contract allowance = 500

2 years contract basis
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wao...
iscm previously heard tat is 2.8k for fresh graduate
bond 2 years
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wao...
iscm previously heard tat is 2.8k for fresh graduate
bond 2 years
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The rate is for scope punya global operation officer tongue.gif
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The rate is for scope punya global operation officer tongue.gif
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i'm also going to TPM tmr for intw..global ops officer - mortgage processing..apply via jobstreet also..will update here after my intw..
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i'm also going to TPM tmr for intw..global ops officer - mortgage processing..apply via jobstreet also..will update here after my intw..
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Im already went for the interview today ... Its quite simple , take it easy.
2 persons will interview you tomorrow( after you done the test)
The test also quite simple , some math , attitude test and so on
But wat weird is that the guy who interview me told me that the basic salary is 1700 ( which is different from wat said by other which is 1800)
Furthermore, he also told me that there is no allowance or bonus ( WTF) - it's totally a different story !!! mad.gif
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tcping, u r in scope now? tongue.gif
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actually is same la...at TPM also... icon_idea.gif


QUOTE(wkong86 @ Jul 1 2009, 08:10 PM)
Im already went for the interview today ... Its quite simple , take it easy.
2 persons will interview you tomorrow( after you done the test)
The test also quite simple , some math , attitude test and so on
But wat weird is that the guy who interview me told me that the basic salary is 1700 ( which is different from wat said by other which is 1800)
Furthermore, he also told me that there is no allowance or bonus ( WTF)  - it's totally a different story !!! mad.gif
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Then i dunno lo...i saw people punya contract when sign contract together i curi saw his contract..then state basic 1.8+ contract allowance 500, then have 16 day annual leave... whistling.gif
actually majority of da scope position is contract basis..so da benefit is lesser than permanent staff... cry.gif
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i went for de interview already... simple tn wat i expected, but dunno whether can get it not...

a bit worry tongue.gif

but de interviewer told me mayb work in PJ rolleyes.gif
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Then i dunno lo...i saw people punya contract when sign contract together i curi saw his contract..then state basic 1.8+ contract allowance 500, then have 16 day annual leave... whistling.gif
actually majority of da scope position is contract basis..so da benefit is lesser than permanent staff... cry.gif
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I also dun knoe whether i should take tis job or not ...... 2 years contract !!! Dun knoe whether we can resign without
giving compensation or not ..... bond for 2 years sad.gif
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u will not be bonded for two years. when u want to resign, just give your resignation letter according to the timeframe in the contract.

shk312... who interviewed you? their name? do pm me ok?




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u will not be bonded for two years. when u want to resign, just give your resignation letter according to the timeframe in the contract.

shk312... who interviewed you? their name? do pm me ok?
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icic... can i ask one more noob question ? wat is 500 contract allowance mean ? Is it mean that you will be given 1800 basic plus 500 allowance every month ( 2300) or it just given in the time that you sign an agreement with them and it serve as a token of appreciation like tat ? biggrin.gif
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icic... can i ask one more noob question ? wat is 500 contract allowance mean ? Is it mean that you will be given 1800 basic plus 500 allowance every month ( 2300) or it just given in the time that you sign an agreement with them and it serve as a token of appreciation like tat ?  biggrin.gif
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that i am not so sure... you have to clarify more with HR when they ask you go and collect the offer letter....


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my contract is 6 month
In my contract state like this:
"This contract may be terminated by either party giving to the other one (1) month written notice of termination or one (1) month basic salary in lieu of such notice"

SO i think just need give one month notice and no need any compensation.

Then i think 1800 (basic) + 500 (contract allowance) is every month one. So total 2300. This is wat I rasa la..haha
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i went interview on 1st July as Global International Support Position as well.
Simple interview but they said i'll be get Senior post by lead few ppl for processing the file.

i'm still not understand what is the job function? am i lead ppl only or hav to do file processing as well?

Why there is mass interview being conduct? is that turnover very high so need to hire lot new staff?

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i just got a call saying they are offering what i asked but further details is sketchy:) hmmm it was fast....thought they'll take longer time to return


Added on July 3, 2009, 1:09 am
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Kimmie, when's your interview? mayb we will meet soon, haha..

anybody can share more about this position? icon_question.gif  icon_question.gif  icon_question.gif
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interview was same day:P ahahaha


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i'm also going to TPM tmr for intw..global ops officer - mortgage processing..apply via jobstreet also..will update here after my intw..
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jobstreet select?


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QUOTE(tay @ Jul 3 2009, 12:19 AM)
i went interview on 1st July as Global International Support Position as well.
Simple interview but they said i'll be get Senior post by lead few ppl for processing the file.

i'm still not understand what is the job function? am i lead ppl only or hav to do file processing as well?

Why there is mass interview being conduct? is that turnover very high so need to hire lot new staff?
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i heard there are few depts opening i was given choice which i prefer to join:) but job description vivid....i guess the best answer to be given are the staff working in scope now

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yesterday scope just offered me a position in account servicing based in pj...... can i know wat is account servicing??
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QUOTE(3olyn @ Jul 3 2009, 09:50 AM)
yesterday scope just offered me a position in account servicing based in pj...... can i know wat is account servicing??
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my guess is something like sales and customer service
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Scope doesn't have any customer service or sales or any frontline jobs, it's all either (1) banking operations (i.e. backroom), (2) IT helpdesk, or (3) programming/project.
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i dun think is sales too....
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QUOTE(deodorant @ Jul 3 2009, 11:47 AM)
Scope doesn't have any customer service or sales or any frontline jobs, it's all either (1) banking operations (i.e. backroom), (2) IT helpdesk, or (3) programming/project.
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there is a position opening whom another job agency called me called relationship manager in scope ; basically doing what a real rm does in the bank....cust support and sales
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QUOTE(tay @ Jul 3 2009, 12:19 AM)
i went interview on 1st July as Global International Support Position as well.
Simple interview but they said i'll be get Senior post by lead few ppl for processing the file.

i'm still not understand what is the job function? am i lead ppl only or hav to do file processing as well?

Why there is mass interview being conduct? is that turnover very high so need to hire lot new staff?
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where are u located? PJ?
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scope does have customer service or sales
customer service is call center
sales is tele sales
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anybody got offer from scope already?

i heard they said maybe revert in 1 week time hmm.gif

QUOTE(kimmie @ Jul 3 2009, 01:07 AM)
i just got a call saying they are offering what i asked but further details is sketchy:) hmmm it was fast....thought they'll take longer time to return
kimmie, can i know wat position u apply?

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anybody got offer from scope already?

i heard they said maybe revert in 1 week time hmm.gif
kimmie, can i know wat position u apply?
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i received their call last week...... and they said will call me in another day to take the offer letter wor...

shk312,
did u get their call??????
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i received their call last week...... and they said will call me in another day to take the offer letter wor...

shk312,
did u get their call??????
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no.... sad.gif
issit means tat i failed liao sad.gif

by de way, can i know wat position apply??? tongue.gif
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i gt the offer of global operation officer - mortgage processing on friday. anyone know how's the offer as i din ask..tongue.gif
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i apply for global operation officer from jobstreet.... and then they offered me an account services position..... maybe next week they will call u....


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i gt the offer of global operation officer - mortgage processing on friday. anyone know how's the offer as i din ask..tongue.gif
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i get an account services position... i oso din ask bout an offer ..... anyone knows??

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QUOTE(3olyn @ Jul 4 2009, 11:00 PM)
i apply for global operation officer from jobstreet.... and then they  offered me an account services position..... maybe next week they will call u....


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TQ, hope so... smile.gif

Why u din ask them, thn did they tell u de salary?

when u go to gt de offer letter?
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I have mention the salary in Page18:)
kindly refer to it.
I think they have tell you when they call u and offer u rite?
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they din tell bout the salary while they called...
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ya...same here, they din tell me the salary ......
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i still waiting their call for taking offer letter...

shin wai,
did u know when u going to take offer letter??
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they said they will call me again this next week...so, jz waiting for their call this coming week..
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QUOTE(khenhh @ Apr 9 2009, 10:12 PM)
Basically they are a subsidized agent for SCBMB ... the position they offered you is a Collection officer biggrin.gif can get commision wink.gif NO recovery you get screwed.


Added on April 9, 2009, 10:34 pm

imagine, you come in straight as a Manager with no leadership skills what so ever, you fail to motivate your staff to work for you, they leave one by one and you are losing your team. Yet you dare call yourself a Manager? Shit, i've seen beggars leading larger group of Hobos then this so called manager.

I got sick and tired of the company not because of the HoD, but the Retards who calls them self Managers, not only they don't try to understand you, they make you feel worst!

My car broke down, Twice in a single day and I tried my best to go to work, and this Manager was in office or god knows where kept calling me to ask when i'm going to work.

HELLO ... instead of offering me a hand, to come to my rescue, you are asking me STUPID question like when I'll go to work ... Shit, what's a bloody ROSTER for then? might as well throw it away or stuff it up his Arse. when i was IN alliance Bank, my car broke down, not only my Vice President told me not to go to work, she even paid for my bills! How could you not respect this kind of Boss? Compared to this ... *Manyzer* who pressures you at the wrong time and using the wrong words.

sorry, when i think back of what happen and the hardship i had to go through ... I realize I'm a bigger man today. I realized, I have better leadership skills, people skills, and most importantly I know how to manage people compared to this drunken monkeys who call themselves Managers.

What a Joke!

My name is pretty obvious here, so if the managers were reading this .. they might know who i am, but let me tell you this, I'm not a Back stabber and if you have an issue with me, come talk to me 1 on 1 like a man.
Anyway, under the leadership of Mr. Franky IT 365 is slowly transforming , unlike Mr Alan and his Gang who doesn't know how to lead, I'm pretty much tired of this company.
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they said they will call me again this next week...so, jz waiting for their call this coming week..
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did u receive their call dy??
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QUOTE(shk312 @ Jun 28 2009, 10:49 PM)
Thanks for ur reply, deodorant... biggrin.gif

Any comment for this department?? hehe, from previous post seems majority in negative sights...

anyone work in this department b4? appreciate if u can share here

Will it base in bukit jalil or PJ?
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Hi There, my hubby was from this company before. He was among the pioneer in his department. Ur working hour will also based on country that you support. Working environment??? May be suitable for those who not yet married, coz you really work like hell there!! rclxub.gif

One good things that motivated him to work there was because of the salary that the company offerred him.. MOre than 3.5K for those who has only 1.5 years experience in local bank, i think it is worth enough. The turn over also very high there coz people cannot stand with the preasure at that place... some department have very bad political environment... some may be ok la... however, it is also depends on the manager that managed the deprtment


But unfortunately right now as what we heard from our frenz, Scope offer less than 2K... emmm!! Not enteresting at all..

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tmr i going to collect my offer letter.. they offer me 2k per month with 24 months contract in global operation officer position....some more, gotta start work on next monday... should i accept it????( i will pursue my master on nite)

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QUOTE(3olyn @ Jul 9 2009, 11:10 AM)
tmr i going to collect my offer letter.. they offer me 2k per month with 24 months contract in global operation officer position....some more, gotta start work on next monday... should i accept it????( i will pursue my master on nite)
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at TPM?
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tmr i going to collect my offer letter.. they offer me 2k per month with 24 months contract in global operation officer position....some more, gotta start work on next monday... should i accept it????( i will pursue my master on nite)
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before u sign the offer letter, talk to HR.. see which country that they putting you in... tell them that u have class at night... hope they put u in supporting SG or MY or HK.. then u have time..


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i tell u all.. even HR act like inspector !!!!! scary right?
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hahaha... doh.gif

thats work life lorrr .... maybe other place would be worst ...


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QUOTE(3olyn @ Jul 9 2009, 11:10 AM)
global operation officer position....some more, gotta start work on next monday... should i accept it????( i will pursue my master on nite)

depends what time is your night class, and where. Banking operations hurmmm ... I'd guess you won't finish work until 7 on the average / at the earliest (depending on your luck of which dept you get into).
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just resigned the position of Global operation officer in scope tpm.. had been working there for 2 yrs plus...
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shinwai,
did u receive their call dy??
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haha...they havent call me until today..
or they cabut already?? blink.gif


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just resigned the position of Global operation officer in scope tpm.. had been working there for 2 yrs plus...
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can i know the reason you resign???

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long working hours.. bad manager i had !! depend on which department u go in.. no need too worry..some dept is good.. mine is CRC!! the worst Dept and manager
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QUOTE(missdream @ Jul 13 2009, 10:20 AM)
long working hours.. bad manager i had !! depend on which department u go in.. no need too worry..some dept is good.. mine is CRC!! the worst Dept and manager
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CRC refer to?? i kena mortgage processing...
i was from CIMB mortgage processing oso previously..
resigned coz long working hours, even saturday and sunday continously for 1-2 mnths, and also the bad FLOOR manager..hahaha..
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mortgage is ok.. dun worry.
CRC is credit risk control..
sat sun no need working, but weekday need to work late and no OT claim..
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wow..no OT claim.....how late??i used to working til 9pm everyday last time..
until today they haven call me back yet..haha.
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haih... already 1 week plus 5 days already...
I still dun get any reply from them regarding my application as global operation officer as mortgage loan processing .
I already called jobstreet select last thursday about my status ... But the girl told me that they are still in the midst of calling the qualified candidates...
I wonder whether i flunk the interview on 1st of July , although i think I'm present myself quite ok ( of course not so good) , by the way , I'm frustrated job seekers (fresh graduate) that jobless for 2 months !
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as i know the requirement is not high..and very easy can go in... if u show them u r keen to work at there.. last time me directly went to scope interview.. u can do that..submit ur resume to HR.. they will call u interview..faster..no need go thru jobstreet..
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Can i ask whether there is contract allowance for global operation officer which is rm 500? Since during the interview, the interviewer told me that there is no bonus or allowance as this is a contract-based job ? But some forumer here do mention that there is an exist of allowance ...
Very blur coz jobstreet called me just now that scope international going to hire me and might call me up within this few days !
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QUOTE(wkong86 @ Jul 14 2009, 10:35 AM)
Can i ask whether there is contract allowance for global operation officer which is rm 500? Since during the interview, the interviewer told me that there is no bonus or allowance as this is a contract-based job ? But some forumer here do mention that there is an exist of allowance ...
Very blur coz jobstreet called me just now that scope international going to hire me and might call me up within this few days !
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I think for Cntract GOO you will get the RM500 allowance. This is wht my friend told me...
Anyway, Scope is a good place for freshie to start their work life in banking environment.
eventhough the envorinment here is really sucks, you will gain good banking knowledge&products and i can promise that you will be demanded by other banking after 1-2years you working there.
Don't belief me... try la... after 2 years plse try to send ur resume to other local bank, guarantee they will hire you...
That has happen to my hubby before...

He left 3 years already from scope... and now he become like "pisang goreng", coz other banks keep calling him to offer a job...


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see u guys and gals on 10 aug:)
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Kimmie, u join scope or ITSC?
wats ur position?
base at TPM?
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.....i had opportunity to choose between tpm and pj:)
i choosed scope tpm nearer to my place....my position...wink.gif
so where r u based?
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Kimmie, u join Global Operation Officer?
Me is TPM base, under ITSC...but i am not doing IT job...IT admin...next week will be end of my first month to work here and will getting my first salary
Then u be prepare for paying RM50 for seasonal parking
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was it that cheap rm50 for seasonal parking?had u got urs yet?
im a senior GOO.....
was offered to join the CRM team but i took this as a new step of improvement. has a share of experience with cust service with HSBC

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I heard my friend said, now Scope Int very "paliyah'...the salary of contract staff is higher than permanent staff...OMG!what kind of oversea bank is this? and some of dept management very brainless, that's why my friend feels unfair and no future there. So she leaves the company 2 months ago.
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QUOTE(chloe86 @ Jul 21 2009, 10:21 PM)
I heard my friend said, now Scope Int very "paliyah'...the salary of contract staff is higher than permanent staff...OMG!what kind of oversea bank is this? and some of dept management very brainless, that's why my friend feels unfair and no future there. So she leaves the company 2 months ago.
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mmm give and take,perm staff has more coverage on insurance,bonus and al entitlement...
furthermore they are free to leave anytime
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Erm..RM50 ok ok la..actually got free parking oso..but very far..not sure is ilegal onot..i can get the pass at level 1..
wow..senior GOO
i already work 1 month there
is IT365, my office at level 4
where ur office located at?
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I heard my friend said, now Scope Int very "paliyah'...the salary of contract staff is higher than permanent staff...OMG!what kind of oversea bank is this? and some of dept management very brainless, that's why my friend feels unfair and no future there. So she leaves the company 2 months ago.
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Big "shakeup"? Heard unreasonable long hours, e.g. work on Saturday & Sunday. Can anyone confirm?
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My fren GOO sometime work til 9-10 without OT claims.
If you under ITSC then u might work on saturday..for my team, is rotating basis, one month maybe need work 2/3 times on saturday..satuday is half day..not sure about other departments
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so its true....but 9-10 ....... office hours officially from 9-6
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QUOTE(3olyn @ Jul 9 2009, 11:10 AM)
tmr i going to collect my offer letter.. they offer me 2k per month with 24 months contract in global operation officer position....some more, gotta start work on next monday... should i accept it????( i will pursue my master on nite)
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Hi, i just get an offer yesterday . Can i ask whether they will give you rm500 as contract allowance?
So, it means that u will get rm 2500?

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2day went to collect the offer letter. on last wed, the person in charge called me, asked me if based me at PJ ok or not. I replied her ok, i was thinking, why change me to PJ since the interviewers told me that mortgage processing is mainly based at tpm..
In my contract, stated tehre - acct services. change me to acct services..I accept already as the location is near to my house.
as from previous post, ppl said acct services mostly is banking operation.. i don wan customer serives or sales as well......
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as i know, in acc services have lots of units................ got loans, key in data n so on.......... around 50 -60 staffs in dat department.......
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who is reporting to duty on 10 aug?smile.gif
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who is reporting to duty on 10 aug?smile.gif
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How bout u?
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anyone know about job as programmer support .NET MSSQL in scope international.I never do support b4,i more in development in current company.Is true the working enviroment bad?If not please correct me.I focus in job is career enhancement specially in programming.Is this job help me?



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Hello everyone,

Anybody from ISCM ?? i got a call for a job as senior programmer on .Net.

Its a 6 month contract.....need to know the job environment there ??? anybody had experience spending long-term contract ?? more than 6 months ?? anybody had their contract period extended ??
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QUOTE(skhairi @ Jul 29 2009, 09:32 PM)
Hello everyone,

Anybody from ISCM ?? i got a call for a job as senior programmer on .Net.

Its a 6 month contract.....need to know the job environment there ??? anybody had experience spending long-term contract ?? more than 6 months ?? anybody had their contract period extended ??
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ps:- for those working in eFBS team and know a woman name "T%$a"..say hello to that bi@#h...

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mmm give and take,perm staff has more coverage on insurance,bonus and al entitlement...
furthermore they are free to leave anytime
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just turn a round the word... if all ur manager level is same contract from same oversea place... u think ur bonus will be more? smile.gif
al is almost the same as outside coz perm in scope al is more then outside...
nothing much complaint, good insurance coverage, 1 person per room, not shared, shiok.... (but touch wood, how many times u go into HOSPITAL to enjoy?)
contract is 1 month notice.... perm is 3 month...


QUOTE(shinwai @ Jul 27 2009, 04:02 PM)
me, based at crystal plaza.

How bout u?
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perm has been changed to 1 month notice:)
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tcping...how long you have been working for ITSC....

in scope or itsc there is various dept...all depends on the dept head..how good are they in managing ppl
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tcping...how long you have been working for ITSC....

in scope or itsc there is various dept...all depends on the dept head..how good are they in managing ppl
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1 month plus tongue.gif
Erm..i not so sure sbout da management
Sure have some is terrible some is nice
depend on ur luck
luckily my reporting manager is nice person notworthy.gif
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1 month plus tongue.gif
Erm..i not so sure sbout da management
Sure have some is terrible some is nice
depend on ur luck
luckily my reporting manager is nice person notworthy.gif
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tcping... i might had seen u b4 as once a while i will be at tpm itsc... tongue.gif tongue.gif pm me ya... we share our pwid...

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u all noe how long it takes from contract staff change to permanent staff??
becoz i saw my dept work almost 2 yrs still contract basis=="
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u all noe how long it takes from contract staff change to permanent staff??
becoz i saw my dept work almost 2 yrs still contract basis=="
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u all noe how long it takes from contract staff change to permanent staff??
becoz i saw my dept work almost 2 yrs still contract basis=="
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I'd imagine Mgmt would be eager to have a (relatively) large portion of you guys on contract vs permanent, especially in ISCM where no funding from business = no projects = no job. Much easier to terminate contract staff than permanent ones tongue.gif
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Please don't believe SCOPE. They are cheating people to work as cheap labor. Especially new joiner, or experience lesser worker, they promise to give you to work as Java Developer. In the end, they will asking you to do support task, saying you need 1 year to go into Developer. as my friend faced so, then after 1 year......they said u r already as support, you cannot work as developer.......come on...............dilemma.

Also heard internal staffs said that the bonus have "kuota".......after certain people get good, you cannot get the good 1......wtf... then must be someone become scapegoat even though work hard!!? i can't believe it.

Last but not least,....my sister friend also join as GT (graduate trainee). there is a bond.......15k, they use this a secret power to force u work something you don't like.......

after hearing a lot of negative comment... pls........don't join,.......so politic.....so bullying.....cheating...

luckily i not yet join.........pls intro me work? 5 years exp.... DBA.


QUOTE(c9 @ Apr 8 2008, 04:14 AM)
They've been so desperate lately, of which they call up everyday asking me to go for an interview. Unix (a little Oracle) position.

Ah, not sure how much they would offer. But I'm fairly not interested to join them. wink.gif
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QUOTE(scopesux @ Aug 7 2009, 05:10 PM)
Please don't believe SCOPE. They are cheating people to work as cheap labor. Especially new joiner, or experience lesser worker, they promise to give you to work as Java Developer. In the end, they will asking you to do support task, saying you need 1 year to go into Developer. as my friend faced so, then after 1 year......they said u r already as support, you cannot work as developer.......come on...............dilemma.

Also heard internal staffs said that the bonus have "kuota".......after certain people get good, you cannot get the good 1......wtf... then must be someone become scapegoat even though work hard!!? i can't believe it.

Last but not least,....my sister friend also join as GT (graduate trainee). there is a bond.......15k, they use this a secret power to force u work something you don't like.......

after hearing a lot of negative comment... pls........don't join,.......so politic.....so bullying.....cheating...

luckily i not yet join.........pls intro me work? 5 years exp.... DBA.
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TOTALLY AGREED WITH YOU..

If people who currently working in SCOPE is trying hard to get out (expecially old GTs), y u all want to pursue there? Shishh..of course la they pay u high salary, but just what scopesux said, its better to try search job somewhere else...

Been there, done that, kene also...if you all just denying it, thats find for me...

PS:- I mention this for ISCM, whoever working with Internet Banking team, gudluck..and also eFBS team, can you find T!n@ and say hi to that old lady again? I know you all already know about her "work attitude" vmad.gif
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Hi,
anybody work at PJ for Wealth department?
please share your experience?
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why?? you in wealth dept or join wealth dept soon ?

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why?? you in wealth dept or join wealth dept soon ?
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hi,
my x-colleague will joining soon.
he ask my opinion, i'm not sure.
so help him ask in this forum.
any comments?
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I have been offered the IT helpdesk position, 1 year contract,2.1k, no transport allowance. dont know whether to accept it or not.
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I have been offered the IT helpdesk position, 1 year contract,2.1k, no transport allowance. dont know whether to accept it or not.
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Wow..so high?2.1K?
u have working experience before?
base at where? which dept?
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Wow..so high?2.1K?
u have working experience before?
base at where? which dept?
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High? sweat.gif , I am staying in Cyberjaya, traveling back and forth TPM is gonna be costly.
No, I am a fresh grad.
TPM. Service desk

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High?  sweat.gif , I am staying in Cyberjaya, traveling back and forth TPM is gonna be costly.
No, I am a fresh grad.
TPM. Service desk
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I oso fresh grad..service desk, TPM oso but not as high as yours cry.gif
u IT student?
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I oso fresh grad..service desk, TPM oso but not as high as yours cry.gif
u IT student?
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ya. how long have u been working there?
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nearly 2 months
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nearly 2 months
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Nowadays economy not so good, Scope also cut cost I guess. Nowadays looks like got more contract position than permanent. If got better offer, better don't join and work as contract staff, no job security and wasting time.
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QUOTE(PCMJ @ Aug 19 2009, 11:03 PM)
Nowadays economy not so good, Scope also cut cost I guess. Nowadays looks like got more contract position than permanent. If got better offer, better don't join and work as contract staff, no job security and wasting time.
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Hi, for those who works in Scope, do u have any allowance (RM500)

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Hi, for those who works in Scope, do u have any allowance (RM500)
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me no...will start next week as asst. manager of global operation. also, anyone know mana saya boleh park my car?
i lupa tanya HR sad.gif

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thanks for you info. Got anyone is selected to send to Singapore for training next week?

HI jorgsacul, Are you apply the GOO post?
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thanks for you info. Got anyone is selected to send to Singapore for training next week?

HI jorgsacul, Are you apply the GOO post?
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tak pergi, sebab saya ada experience from HSBC. sebab itu saya join as Assistant Manager bukan Junior.
cuma nak tahu parking ni.
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tak pergi, sebab saya ada experience from HSBC. sebab itu saya join as Assistant Manager bukan Junior.
cuma nak tahu parking ni.
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if you are at TPM...can park on the roadside... rm3 per day...
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QUOTE(jorgsacul @ Aug 26 2009, 11:55 PM)
tak pergi, sebab saya ada experience from HSBC. sebab itu saya join as Assistant Manager bukan Junior.
cuma nak tahu parking ni.
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QUOTE(tcping @ Jul 1 2009, 09:34 PM)
I am IT-365 staff blush.gif
actually is same la...at TPM also... icon_idea.gif
Then i dunno lo...i saw people punya contract when sign contract together i curi saw his contract..then state basic 1.8+ contract allowance 500, then have 16 day annual leave... whistling.gif
actually majority of da scope position is contract basis..so da benefit is lesser than permanent staff... cry.gif
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16 days annual leaves ? they told me that only 14 days AL
Is everyone get contract allowance for working as GOO?
They told that if work for more than 1 year, contract staff can get bonus.
Shift allowances will be given if support other country like UK, and US.

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QUOTE(Angelix @ Aug 27 2009, 07:38 PM)
thanks ar.
16 days annual leaves ? they told me that only 14 days AL
Is everyone get contract allowance for working as GOO?
They told that if work for more than 1 year, contract staff can get bonus.
Shift allowances will be given if support other country like UK, and US.
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tipu ni..uk dan us...scope tak handle uk dan us


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if you are at TPM...can park on the roadside... rm3 per day...
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saya nampak building baru across from them, boleh park sana tak?

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da RM500 is contract allowance

if u wanna park new building is per hour one

u can get monthly pass as well beside of RM3 coupon

monthly pass got RM50, 70 and 150

but now oni RM50 is available
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QUOTE(tcping @ Aug 27 2009, 08:44 PM)
da RM500 is contract allowance

if u wanna park new building is per hour one

u can get monthly pass as well beside of RM3 coupon

monthly pass got RM50, 70 and 150

but now oni RM50 is available
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apa beza 50 70 150? ini untuk luar atau dalam building?
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QUOTE(jorgsacul @ Aug 27 2009, 08:32 PM)
tipu ni..uk dan us...scope tak handle uk dan us

lol you're not even in scope yet already act like you know everything. Scope don't handle UK and US? Tell that to my friend who comes in to work at 10pm and goes home at 7am.
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QUOTE(deodorant @ Aug 27 2009, 08:52 PM)
lol you're not even in scope yet already act like you know everything. Scope don't handle UK and US? Tell that to my friend who comes in to work at 10pm and goes home at 7am.
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oh, mean that ur friend got shift allowance as well?

basic + contract allowance + shift allowance?



I just abit confused. because during interview, he dint mention about contract allowances, therefore i thought the highest pay is RM2k.
If 2k + 500 for allowance, i thought is very good dy.

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apa beza 50 70 150? ini untuk luar atau dalam building?
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50 = tepi jalan / open space (no reserve)
70 = open space (reserve)
150 = bumbung (reserve)

Tapi sekarang 70 and 150 tak ada kosong lot
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QUOTE(scopesux @ Aug 7 2009, 05:10 PM)
Please don't believe SCOPE. They are cheating people to work as cheap labor. Especially new joiner, or experience lesser worker, they promise to give you to work as Java Developer. In the end, they will asking you to do support task, saying you need 1 year to go into Developer. as my friend faced so, then after 1 year......they said u r already as support, you cannot work as developer.......come on...............dilemma.

Also heard internal staffs said that the bonus have "kuota".......after certain people get good, you cannot get the good 1......wtf... then must be someone become scapegoat even though work hard!!? i can't believe it.

Last but not least,....my sister friend also join as GT (graduate trainee). there is a bond.......15k, they use this a secret power to force u work something you don't like.......

after hearing a lot of negative comment... pls........don't join,.......so politic.....so bullying.....cheating...

luckily i not yet join.........pls intro me work? 5 years exp.... DBA.
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COMPLETELY AGREED WITH YOU..

I used to work with SCOPE for almost 3 years, I quitted recently...
No counter offer, and more importantly what manager promised "you will definitely put in high priority when come to promotion, performance review next round" is all lie, don't ever believe unless your HR manger issue a letter for you saying you will get increment, promotion, blah blah. I asked my manager to issue the letter and he said "I am not going to do that.."..haha..

And for the case you said, yes, my ex colleague was suffering, and exactly the same reason, she was transferred to another team, and also promised by the manager that she will be doing development work, but end up doing support because "You have to familiar with the system first"..

Last but not the least, a lot of incapable project manager is in that company, be careful.. politics also quite worse..

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honeynet...i understand how you feel....i believe we will know each other as we are from the same division...

i also in the same boat with you.... i am doing much more higher work but my level and pay is still the lowest of all... thus making me very pissed off... even my dept a lady very clear in tai chi and polishing shoe... big bosses work all she do... then i do the stuff, she just change the format a bit, then she get all the praises... even now puasa time, come to work at 10 am plus and leave at 430...saying need to go back buka puasa.... but why other malay i see in the office still stay back and go to the cafe downstairs to buka puasa... .

and always any blames can be pushed to me...i really pissed off yesterday and i shouted at her... she suppose to prepare some documents for me, last min clever enough to push the things to me...
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Got anyone get offered this week? For those who apply for GOO, is your training located at standard chartered bank at jalan sultan ismail? Thanks

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Hi all. I am 101% agree with humanfly and honeynet. Like i said before, get a better and secure job some where else. If you are in for the money then so be it. If you thinking can be permanent staff and enjoy increment, bonus and etc forget about it. I even don't get my increment for working more than 3 years despite the my line manager kept saying fight for me but cannot obtain approval for my increment.

Scope is only a good place for those big fishes and senior management people.

Actually for GOO position, things are very logic, why they kept advertising for vacancies available. Hmmm, think and you will know why. smile.gif
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I even don't get my increment for working more than 3 years despite the my line manager kept saying fight for me but cannot obtain approval for my increment.

... Actually for GOO position,

Hmm as far as I know all processing staff in the Ops side have gotten increments every year for the past 4-5 years (at least). If you're in Ops and you were one of the processors, the only reason I can think of for you not getting increment is under-performance.

If tech side no comment, no idea how you guys operate, but I do know that the tech side gets paid a LOT more than Ops side in the first place biggrin.gif

Anyway Scope isn't that bad. It's just inconsistent. If you're lucky you get into a good department under a good manager; then life will be good. If you're unlucky you get into a sh*t position with a worthless manager, and ... well ... you can see the outcome from the previous few guys' posts biggrin.gif
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Yeah well, I believe I got a bad manager and I do not think I am under perform. smile.gif

I agree with you that it is true that some times it is not the company but your direct and immediate superior that brings you a bad and tough life working at Scope.

Anyway, a good job not only need hard working but also luck and appreciation from your immediate superior. smile.gif

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the company is merging 2 entities... Scope and IT365 under one roof...

Company is good... but if how good your manager is but you did not perform how are they going to promote you.... i know of some people good at polishing shoes...
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shit for the person who said they support US and EU..only asia u bodoh

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shit for the person who said they support US and EU..only asia u bodoh

lol are you calling me out on this? And wow, calling names & using swear words is SO MATURE!

One word: Trade. Now SHOO, and go find out for yourself whether I'm right or wrong.

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hi all,
some1 from jobstreet select called me yesterday and ask me to attend an interview for SGOO - Credit Management‏ (mortgage) post.

hv any1 know bout the working condition/environment for this dept?
wht was the ideal salary range?
and how bout the working hours?

appreciate if u guys cud share some of the info wif me. biggrin.gif
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Hi all. Has any Scope or IT staff completed the Q12 survey? I have done mine truthfully. I heard rumors that next year there will unlikely be any increment which this year also no. I think the economy was not good. I hope we have increment next year.
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QUOTE(PCMJ @ Sep 9 2009, 11:04 AM)
Hi all. Has any Scope or IT staff completed the Q12 survey? I have done mine truthfully. I heard rumors that next year there will unlikely be any increment which this year also no. I think the economy was not good. I hope we have increment next year.
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completed it also..... again no increment, no promotion, no this, no that... haiazzzzz...

is not economic not good..is company taking advantage of the economic by not giving increment and bonus... look at the company income and profit..is getting more..and we are working more and more....so pcmj..which dept are u in
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Just left already la u all..no need to work there..
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Hi humanfly. I am at Trade Ops TPM.

Hai~~~ what to do. Like the old folks said "if the cow don't drink water how to push the cow head down". As long as we are working here, have to bear with all the things/ treatments.

Dead4life: say easy, do is difficult. Still need the money for family. sad.gif

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QUOTE(dzoozd @ Sep 9 2009, 08:39 AM)
hi all,
some1 from jobstreet select called me yesterday and ask me to attend an interview for SGOO - Credit Management‏ (mortgage) post.

hv any1 know bout the working condition/environment for this dept?
wht was the ideal salary range?
and how bout the working hours?

appreciate if u guys cud share some of the info wif me.  biggrin.gif
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assume is mortgage okay, also make sure is mortagage. for Senior pay about $2400 to $2600.9 to 6 on paper and 9 to 9 real time. still can go longer if you can stand it.
mortgage My and SG totally different. Like MY and SG. MY lepak je...casual dress code..SG very kiasu and competitive (they forget they are new also, less than 1 month)


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QUOTE(PCMJ @ Sep 9 2009, 10:04 AM)
Hi all. Has any Scope or IT staff completed the Q12 survey? I have done mine truthfully. I heard rumors that next year there will unlikely be any increment which this year also no. I think the economy was not good. I hope we have increment next year.
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company let go a lot of old people and hire GOO baru dengan lebih murah

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QUOTE(jorgsacul @ Sep 11 2009, 12:58 AM)
assume is mortgage  okay, also make sure is mortagage. for Senior pay about $2400 to $2600.9 to 6 on paper and 9 to 9 real time. still can go longer if you can stand it.
mortgage My and SG totally different. Like MY and SG. MY lepak je...casual dress code..SG very kiasu and competitive (they forget they are new also, less than 1 month)


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company let go a lot of old people and hire GOO baru dengan lebih murah
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Same to SCOPE PJ, they let go a lot of senior, experienced staffs and hire new people with cheaper pay, and hope it will work...come on, it's not gonna work! mad.gif
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please do not go to work as that is the hell for you guys.. senior manager really sucks and their say fight for you.. i dun think so as their fight for themselves only. dun listen to the crap. NO leave are allowed. NO holiday. everything is NO........

maybe when u dead then the answer is YES
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please do not go to work as that is the hell for you guys.. senior manager really sucks and their say fight for you.. i dun think so as their fight for themselves only. dun listen to the crap. NO leave are allowed. NO holiday. everything is NO........

maybe when u dead then the answer is YES
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hmm my gf is there too tongue.gif heard quite lot of issues on letting senior staff away and in newbies.. ;p
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QUOTE(garagesell @ Sep 12 2009, 04:09 AM)
please do not go to work as that is the hell for you guys.. senior manager really sucks and their say fight for you.. i dun think so as their fight for themselves only. dun listen to the crap. NO leave are allowed. NO holiday. everything is NO........

maybe when u dead then the answer is YES
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so far i see manager sana semua malas and bosan...duduk ambil gaji sahaja...goo baru lepak sahaja..company is akan jatuh...kalau kerja scope is ur first job...boleh lah..belajar politik orang melayu
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QUOTE(jorgsacul @ Sep 12 2009, 07:46 PM)
so far i see manager sana semua malas and bosan...duduk ambil gaji sahaja...goo baru lepak sahaja..company is akan jatuh...kalau kerja scope is ur first job...boleh lah..belajar politik orang melayu
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so as a conclusion, did u regret leaving hsbc to join scope?
wht dept u r in?

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QUOTE(jorgsacul @ Sep 12 2009, 07:46 PM)
so far i see manager sana semua malas and bosan...duduk ambil gaji sahaja...goo baru lepak sahaja..company is akan jatuh...kalau kerja scope is ur first job...boleh lah..belajar politik orang melayu
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May I know what politick orang melayu look like? kindly explain.... hmm.gif
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I malay(join Scope as GT) mainframe , already Left scope 1year ++, Now Joining other Bank my Salary now 5K++, thanks to scope..
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QUOTE(PCMJ @ Sep 10 2009, 11:52 AM)
Hi humanfly. I am at Trade Ops TPM.

Hai~~~ what to do. Like the old folks said "if the cow don't drink water how to push the cow head down". As long as we are working here, have to bear with all the things/ treatments.

Dead4life: say easy, do is difficult. Still need the money for family. sad.gif
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Hi, I have a question here. I have got an offer from Scope two weeks ago, but that time i dint give a proper answer to HR due to i have any interview in other Co. Is it possible to retrive the job offer from scope now? Thanks

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Hi Humanfly, u PM me your bank ID first la smile.gif
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QUOTE(deodorant @ Aug 30 2009, 05:00 PM)
Hmm as far as I know all processing staff in the Ops side have gotten increments every year for the past 4-5 years (at least).  If you're in Ops and you were one of the processors, the only reason I can think of for you not getting increment is under-performance.

If tech side no comment, no idea how you guys operate, but I do know that the tech side gets paid a LOT more than Ops side in the first place biggrin.gif

Anyway Scope isn't that bad. It's just inconsistent. If you're lucky you get into a good department under a good manager; then life will be good. If you're unlucky you get into a sh*t position with a worthless manager, and ... well ... you can see the outcome from the previous few guys' posts biggrin.gif
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tech side no comment? rclxms.gif rclxms.gif
blabooooh....... rclxms.gif rclxms.gif

even worst from tech side until no one even wanna comment... tired of it already.....
ohyah... i from tech side... left quite some times already.....
wat benefits u wanna from tech side? tongue.gif tongue.gif
there got....
- promotion without increment
- after promo then bonus evaluate based on ur new position timeline (start from oct evaluate, in front hard work is all clear off) tongue.gif
- fix bugs ONLY which created by them
- u dunno wat they are doing.. explore urself or die..


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QUOTE(deodorant @ Sep 7 2009, 01:38 PM)
lol are you calling me out on this? And wow, calling names & using swear words is SO MATURE!

One word: Trade. Now SHOO, and go find out for yourself whether I'm right or wrong.
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oooo.... i dunno traxe goes in US already..... when i come out only know until UK....
as far as i know... SCB super very less in US... 1 hand can count finish....

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anyone experience working in the new unix team? should be under IT365
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no more it365 lor..now is known as scope already ...u got offer to join ?

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yea offered. need to know the working environment there. Any idea? contract under Tentacle Technologies sdn bhd

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yea offered. need to know the working environment there. Any idea? contract under Tentacle Technologies sdn bhd
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I have went for interview this morning then call me back in afternoon and congrat me for being offered wub.gif
CUSTOMER SERVICE ENGINEER (6mth contract) in IT-365 cool.gif
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im not selected on dis pos..attend inbiew at TPM bkit jalil sad.gif how was da work environ? biggrin.gif


Added on September 28, 2009, 12:21 amanyone know bout post banking relationship officer?got intebiew under agency intelek 2morrow.. possibly work in standard charted Pj (as recruiter told me last thursday)... icon_question.gif

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QUOTE(kowmeng @ Sep 27 2009, 11:19 PM)
im not selected on dis pos..attend inbiew at TPM bkit jalil sad.gif how was da work environ? biggrin.gif


Added on September 28, 2009, 12:21 amanyone know bout post banking relationship officer?got intebiew under agency intelek 2morrow.. possibly work in standard charted Pj (as recruiter told me last thursday)...  icon_question.gif
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If you work with Scope, it will be in Menara LYL, PJ
Standard Chart Msia has one branch in PJ also (near PKNS).

Although work in the same bank, but both are different companies..so dont get confuse...


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If you work with Scope, it will be in Menara LYL, PJ
Standard Chart Msia has one branch in PJ also (near PKNS).

Although work in the same bank, but both are different companies..so dont get confuse...
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Anybody is in Standard Chartered? How is the group performing (as in the bonus, increment and promotion)? How's the benefit? I'm being invited to an interview in the Standard Chartered HQ.
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actually scope is quite nice company, it provides above-market value of salary and lots of additional benefits such as insurance coverage for u & ur immediate family (children, wife), dental, optical and long annual leaves. every company also has its own issues, as long as you are happy with the offer, then just join. no need to care about others comments becuz there are certainly bad & good comments. i don't there is such perfect company that provides everthing. as a worker, we have accept the fact smile.gif
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What about the main bank itself? I'll be hired under Standard Chartered and not Scope (if interview is successful)
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If under Std. Chart, ull involve in Malaysia ..
If under Scope, ull involve in countries from Asia pacifics region..


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actually scope is quite nice company, it provides above-market value of salary and lots of additional benefits such as insurance coverage for u & ur immediate family (children, wife), dental, optical and long annual leaves. every company also has its own issues, as long as you are happy with the offer, then just join. no need to care about others comments becuz there are certainly bad & good comments. i don't there is such perfect company that provides everthing. as a worker, we have accept the fact smile.gif
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Hmm.... Standard Chartered branch manager just call me up for an interview tomorrow though is weekend. She wanted to interview me for the post of sales....
I wonder how the sales in SCB is like. Very though? Or still ok.?? what about comparing SCB with other banks? I am presently doing quite well in Hong Leong. But just felt tired traveling for work. So tempting to move back to hometown where the SCB is.
Really need to know more about the sales target if anyone here can help. Thx so much in advance. biggrin.gif
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Hmm.... Standard Chartered branch manager just call me up for an interview tomorrow though is weekend. She wanted to interview me for the post of sales....
I wonder how the sales in SCB is like. Very though? Or still ok.?? what about comparing SCB with other banks? I am presently doing quite well in Hong Leong. But just felt tired traveling for work. So tempting to move back to hometown where the SCB is.
Really need to know more about the sales target if anyone here can help. Thx so much in advance.  biggrin.gif
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WHich branch, i'll tell you about the managers there. which sales?
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