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Where to buy folding bicycle in Malaysia?

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1. Folding bike - 折叠自行车

2. Folding bicycle parts - 折叠车 配件

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2015 Reach R20
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Chedech - ( full carbon brompton replica frm korea )
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CARACLE-S World's Smallest 20inch Folding Bicycle
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Hello fellow foldies... So i recently got myself a mongoose bike.may i know if its possible to upgrade my single chainring to a 60t one? Currently using shimano tourney. How much is the estimated cost?
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QUOTE(Bensonleemun @ Nov 26 2015, 09:43 PM)
Hello fellow foldies... So i recently got myself a mongoose bike.may i know if its possible to upgrade my single chainring to a 60t one? Currently using shimano tourney. How much is the estimated cost?
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wah u wana cnc the 60T? biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(H2D @ Nov 26 2015, 10:29 PM)
wah u wana cnc the 60T?  biggrin.gif
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Yeah... Is it possible ah? And where do i find it...idk if its possible to fit into my bike😮😮😮kinda hard to find also...
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QUOTE(Bensonleemun @ Nov 26 2015, 10:48 PM)
Yeah... Is it possible ah? And where do i find it...idk if its possible to fit into my bike😮😮😮kinda hard to find also...
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60T by litepro biggrin.gif 130BCD RMB~128

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https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=2013.1...bb-9aa7350d1aa5

u can oso custom frm china....

this is 70T

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I wonder how much does it cost to get it done...
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post Nov 26 2015, 11:05 PM

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Oh btw crankset can use road bike one right
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QUOTE(Bensonleemun @ Nov 26 2015, 11:05 PM)
Oh btw crankset can use road bike one right
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if the mongoose use square bb with removable crank, u just need to get a pair of bcd 130 crank.
and longer chain...
hollow bb oso can as long it can fit the mongoose...

i no kaki mod, so kenot answer ur Q, gota wait for sifus.... biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(H2D @ Nov 26 2015, 11:14 PM)
if the mongoose use square bb with removable crank, u just need to get a pair of bcd 130 crank.
and longer chain...
hollow bb oso can as long it can fit the mongoose...

i no kaki mod, so kenot answer ur Q, gota wait for sifus....  biggrin.gif
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I see... Thanks for enlighting👍👍👍 probably will get used with current chainring before upgrading
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QUOTE(Bensonleemun @ Nov 26 2015, 09:43 PM)
Hello fellow foldies... So i recently got myself a mongoose bike.may i know if its possible to upgrade my single chainring to a 60t one? Currently using shimano tourney. How much is the estimated cost?
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Another option is to get an even smaller cassette combinations. There are cassette that starts from 9 cogs instead of 11. You just need to trawl through the internet. Seems more logical too , rather than changing the front chain ring to 60T which actually looks ridiculous. If you can find the 9 cog, the gear is even higher than a 60 teeth chain ring.

60T/11cogs = ratio 5.454

53T/9 cogs = ratio 5.888

55T/9 cogs = ratio 6.111

58T/9 cogs = ratio 6.444

I come to realise that many riders wants to mod their bikes without actually understanding the theory behind the mods rclxub.gif Study the facts because sometimes the general public is not always right. Your fellow riders might have done it and even he has bungled the mod and is regretting, he will never admit it. If this is the case, you will be blindly following without even realizing. laugh.gif

FOR REFERENCE the normal ratio , 53T/11 cogs = 4.818 ( for those not familiar, the ratio here means the number of revolution the rear wheels turns on one turn of the crank )

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9t kaset is rare sifoo.. price oso almost same as mongoose liao... biggrin.gif
non existence in china oso... tht y they go to 70T....
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QUOTE(etigge @ Nov 27 2015, 11:08 AM)
Another option is to get an even smaller cassette combinations. There are cassette that starts from 9 cogs instead of 11. You just need to trawl through the internet. Seems more logical too , rather than changing the front chain ring to 60T which actually looks ridiculous. If you can find the 9 cog, the gear is even higher than a 60 teeth chain ring.

60T/11cogs   = ratio 5.454

53T/9 cogs    = ratio 5.888

55T/9 cogs    = ratio 6.111

58T/9 cogs    = ratio 6.444

I come to realise that many riders wants to mod their bikes without actually understanding the theory behind the mods  rclxub.gif Study the facts because sometimes the general public is not always right. Your fellow riders might have done it and even he has bungled the mod and is regretting, he will never admit it. If this is the case, you will be blindly following without even realizing.  laugh.gif

FOR REFERENCE the normal ratio  ,  53T/11 cogs  =  4.818  ( for those not familiar, the ratio here means the number of revolution the rear wheels turns on one turn of the crank )
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Hmm... The smallest cassette i could find was 11t and it has to be bought from amazon😅😅😅 so i think i would still stick to the crankset as oem crank isnt in good condition... So do u suggest a 60t chainring or perhaps a smaller one?

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QUOTE(Bensonleemun @ Nov 27 2015, 01:40 PM)
Hmm... The smallest cassette i could find was 11t and it has to be bought from amazon😅😅😅 so i think i would still stick to the crankset as oem crank isnt in good condition... So do u suggest a 60t chainring or perhaps a smaller one?
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Hmmm... 60T chainring? Are you sure? How big are your legs??

That little bike with the 70T chainring is just crazy. I don't get it..... Say you can get it to 30-35kmh, it will be like why?? LOL
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QUOTE(desastar @ Nov 27 2015, 08:10 PM)
Hmmm... 60T chainring?  Are you sure?  How big are your legs??

That little bike with the 70T chainring is just crazy.  I don't get it.....  Say you can get it to 30-35kmh, it will be like why?? LOL
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Maybe 60t maximum... I dont think my engine can tahan 70t chainring.crazy sia😅 just wanna make my bike as quick as possible without burning a hole in my pocket😁
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QUOTE(H2D @ Nov 27 2015, 12:24 PM)
9t kaset is rare sifoo.. price oso almost same as mongoose liao... biggrin.gif
non existence in china oso...  tht y they go to 70T....
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Ada lah bang! tongue.gif Also not expensive lorr. You can get from Amazon, my first google but I didn't check further. It's Shimano Capreo. The price is USD37.54 free shipping in US but don't know about here lah. Here's the link, Mau cepat-cepat beli lorr, stocks not many left.

http://www.amazon.com/Shimano-CS-HG70-Moun...e/dp/B00STRLUHI


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oh this wan ar sifoo.. this wan rare ler, ,, amazon won't ship this to msia, even if one can get agent to ship, cos oso mebe will double... biggrin.gif
china got this oso but one or two oni selling for RMB 600 .... hahaha ....
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QUOTE(etigge @ Nov 27 2015, 10:10 PM)
Ada lah bang!  tongue.gif  Also not expensive lorr. You can get from Amazon, my first google but I didn't check further. It's Shimano Capreo. The price is USD37.54 free shipping in US but don't know about here lah. Here's the link, Mau cepat-cepat beli lorr, stocks not many left. 

http://www.amazon.com/Shimano-CS-HG70-Moun...e/dp/B00STRLUHI
http://i1284.photobucket.com/albums/a566/k...zpsjvtf6y1z.jpg 
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Thank you fellow sifus for enlighting... Hopefully will learn from you guys... I'll get 56t chainring and maybe upgrade my cassette in the near future(still student so pocket isnt that deep) 😅cheers!

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QUOTE(Bensonleemun @ Nov 27 2015, 11:29 PM)
Thank you fellow sifus for enlighting... Hopefully will learn from you guys... I'll get 56t chainring and maybe upgrade my cassette in the near future(still student so pocket isnt that deep) 😅cheers!
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Train ur leg harder bro. Then u will have an enjoyable riding.
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Thank you for your interest, my beautiful yellow Brompton is sold to a nice lady.

What should I buy now.......?


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Sifu Etigge,

You mention about Brompton in Hong Kong are selling at HKD 8000. Is it used or new?
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my leg only can pedal 53t on 20wheels and 55t on my 16wheels..
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anyway,
today i had a chance to pedal my p9 side by side with the honourable rkhairulrijal and his verge x20!

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and here is side by side comparison 406 and 451 size different done by en rijal

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and what i can find within our ride is,
55t + 406 = 53t + 451

bydaway, ur leg will make it different!! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

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QUOTE(desastar @ Nov 28 2015, 01:20 PM)
Thank you for your interest, my beautiful yellow Brompton is sold to a nice lady.

What should I buy now.......?
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Isn't Brompton is king of folding bike? What else to buy? 😅😅😅
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anyway,
today i had a chance to pedal my p9 side by side with the honourable rkhairulrijal and his verge x20!

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and here is side by side comparison 406 and 451 size different done by en rijal

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and what i can find within our ride is,
55t + 406 = 53t + 451

bydaway, ur leg will make it different!! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
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Wow, side by side, the 451s are quite a bit larger eh? Where's a good place to get a nice set of 451 in KL?

Bro, where did you buy yours? S'pore?
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QUOTE(desastar @ Nov 28 2015, 02:57 PM)
Wow, side by side, the 451s are quite a bit larger eh?  Where's a good place to get a nice set of 451 in KL?

Bro, where did you buy yours? S'pore?
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depends on brand. most of good exotic wheelset u can get easily at vans urban. but the price, u know lah..

got few more brand.u can either get a decaf wheelset also around rm700+ and one more brand forgot the name around rm400+ that can easily fit tern & dahon.the wheelset also come in disk version or vbrake version.

but please be noted,
take extra caution for the front hub as dahon and tern mostly sized 67mm unlike normal bike 100mm.mine already change the fork and its can occupied 100mm front hub.
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NOT ALL FRAME CAN accept 451 wheelset.must try and error 1st.v brake also need to mod or change to caliper brakes unless ur bike is using diskbrakes..
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QUOTE(azamunekurone @ Nov 28 2015, 04:22 PM)
depends on brand. most of good exotic wheelset u can get easily at vans urban. but the price, u know lah..

got few more brand.u can either get a decaf wheelset also around rm700+ and one more brand forgot the name around rm400+ that can easily fit tern & dahon.the wheelset also come in disk version or vbrake version.

but please be noted,
take extra caution for the front hub as dahon and tern mostly sized 67mm unlike normal bike 100mm.mine already change the fork and its can occupied 100mm front hub.
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NOT ALL FRAME CAN accept 451 wheelset.must try and error 1st.v brake also need to mod or change to caliper brakes unless ur bike is using diskbrakes..
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I have a feeling that the V brakes will need to be modified and the mudguards won't fit. Need to think if it is worth doing....
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QUOTE(PaulKong @ Nov 28 2015, 02:55 PM)
Isn't Brompton is king of folding bike? What else to buy? 😅😅😅
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I dont think there is such a thing as "king of folding" bike tongue.gif If it suits you, that's your "king"

I one folding I haven't tried is the Birdy. If an opportunity arises, maybe? I may even buy a Speed P8 if a mint one comes along and the price is right. Don't ask me what for.... hmm.gif


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Sifu Etigge,

You mention about Brompton in Hong Kong are selling at HKD 8000. Is it used or new?
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Used one off course!
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QUOTE(desastar @ Nov 28 2015, 06:30 PM)
I dont think there is such a thing as "king of folding" bike  tongue.gif  If it suits you, that's your "king"

I one folding I haven't tried is the Birdy.  If an opportunity arises, maybe? I may even buy a Speed P8 if a mint one comes along and the price is right. Don't ask me what for.... hmm.gif
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Very well put 😄😄
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QUOTE(etigge @ Nov 28 2015, 06:58 PM)
Used one off course!
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Brompton can really retained its value. 👍👍👍
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QUOTE(PaulKong @ Nov 28 2015, 09:11 PM)
Brompton can really retained its value. 👍👍👍
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hence I don't understand why you would buy a Mit, Merc or Flamingo. It will never be a Brompton and you will always feel cheated! hahaha, sorry
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QUOTE(desastar @ Nov 28 2015, 09:59 PM)
hence I don't understand why you would buy a Mit, Merc or Flamingo.  It will never be a Brompton and you will always feel cheated! hahaha, sorry
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well i think some mit owners r pretty happy with their bike, folds like a b, cheaper than a b, has more gear than a b...
it doesn't have to b a b, as long as it can fold like a b... biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(desastar @ Nov 28 2015, 06:24 PM)
I have a feeling that the V brakes will need to be modified and the mudguards won't fit.  Need to think if it is worth doing....
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im using caliper brek for more stopping power compare to v brake.i used a quick released type of mudguard laugh.gif
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QUOTE(H2D @ Nov 28 2015, 10:15 PM)
well i think some mit owners r pretty happy with their bike, folds like a b, cheaper than a b, has more gear than a b...
it doesn't have to b a b, as long as it can fold like a b...  biggrin.gif
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Absolutely, but I don't like the fact that it looks like the real thing when it's not. Perhaps some manufacturers should produce a bolt-on after-market rear triangle that is standard 130mm. That would be a better direction rather than copying someone's design.
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QUOTE(desastar @ Nov 29 2015, 05:52 AM)
Absolutely, but I don't like the fact that it looks like the real thing when it's not. Perhaps some manufacturers should produce a bolt-on after-market rear triangle that is standard 130mm. That would be a better direction rather than copying someone's design.
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Brompton's folding patent has expired now so anyone can copy. Seems not many do anyway. Even the Dahon Curl which follows the compact fold design has improved on the design. Hence they can fold even more compact than the 'B' with an even bigger wheels. It's an exact 18 inch folder. They have also improved on the rear triangle fold where when attached, it is a rigid design rather than a damping system. So, that means you don't waste energy on the slight bobbing on the rear.

In Europe, UK specifically there's a company that makes the 'B' rear triangle. They enlarged the rear clearance for a normal 135mm hubs for the Rohloff systems. The triangle itself (custom made) cost something like 700+ pounds plus the Rohloff (14 speed) is about 2.5K Ringgit. Even if you opt for Shimano Alfine (11 speed) it's still about 1.5K Ringgit. IMO 'B' is all about money, that's why 'B' riders feels proud to ride one. It's a status symbol.

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Don't get me wrong, I'm not defending Brompton here. I just hate the fact that its design is copied, so that's nothing clever about it, ie no improvement to the original concept. If it is something different, hey I'm interested!

Yes, pity the modified triangle is so expensive. Now, only if someone copies that rear triangle and offer that at a reasonable price....... biggrin.gif
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Guys,

Need advice on choosing my first foldies.

Been searching around, quite like the design and shape of Dahon Mu D8, but hoping can get one that is below 2k.

Any other option I should look at/consider?
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QUOTE(TradingHouse @ Dec 1 2015, 02:02 PM)
Guys,

Need advice on choosing my first foldies.

Been searching around, quite like the design and shape of Dahon Mu D8, but hoping can get one that is below 2k.

Any other option I should look at/consider?
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The Mu is one of the more expensive models. It's the most popular dolphin models used by foldies. The new Trinx is also the similar dolphin model and it has all the necessary components for a foldie. 18 speed Shimano Sora drivetrain, 451 = 22 inch high profile wheelset. If you can accept Trinx, it should be a bargain. Available in Kimbell Jaya within your budget, give and take a hundred or two. Haggle for freebies, they usually oblige. Like water bottle cage, water bottle, rear lights etc. Anyway, you might as well visit Kimbell Jaya (ask for Jimmy) and see the wide range that he has stock there.

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QUOTE(etigge @ Dec 1 2015, 03:44 PM)
The Mu is one of the more expensive models. It's the most popular dolphin models used by foldies. The new Trinx is also the similar dolphin model and it has all the necessary components for a foldie. 18 speed Shimano Sora drivetrain, 451 = 22 inch high profile wheelset. If you can accept Trinx, it should be a bargain. Available in Kimbell Jaya within your budget, give and take a hundred or two. Haggle for freebies, they usually oblige. Like water bottle cage, water bottle, rear lights  etc. Anyway, you might as well visit Kimbell Jaya (ask for Jimmy) and see the wide range that he has stock there.

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Hi, Any particular model from Trinx?

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Hi all, been looking for the foldie, budget within RM1500. Saw this in the website but not sure if this is a good bargain, can anyone help to advice?

Used: RM1,400
http://bicyclebuysell.com/item/326965/java...6s-folding-bike

New: RM1,300
http://bicyclebuysell.com/item/321374/new-...ke-folding-bike

These 2 should be the sme model except the used one with upgrades right? Please advice.
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I would like to advise you check your bike completely if u planning to purchase at kimbell jaya. I have bad experience with them. First, after i went back home I found out that there is some missing part from my dahon. The next day i went back there and they just take the missing part from the other dahon & put it in mine. unsure.gif
Second, i went there to mod my bike. But his boy scratched my bike 3 times! He just dont want to take the responsibility when i ask him regarding the big scratch. U as a employer/owner of the shop u are should responsible for ur staff wrongdoing. Just my 2cents. The best thing is, they try to cover the deep scratch using sticker. Wth

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Dahon SUV D6 any good ? planning to buy one but below Rm 1k !! i've been comparing between Java Decaf and Dahon SUV but still can't decided which one to go for.......any advise/recommendation ? thks in advance...... biggrin.gif
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my friend offer to sell his almost new XDS AFB820 to me @ 2k.

Is that a good folding bike for beignner?
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@etigge, please help, thanks.

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@etigge, please help, thanks.
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I really can't comment on new rider preferences. Usually we advised something , they turn out something else. Also I might be quite biased towards Dahon. Not that Tern is not good but the extra price is just not worth paying. Other than these two, I see rides tend to have the temptation to change later after riding in a group. But then selling off a used unit is never easy because they expect to loose 15% to 30% which I think most buyers won't go for it, so they stick to the bike. Also many new riders stays to one bike and Dahon are quite low spec-ed for their cheaper units and many won't want to pay for upgrading of the bikes. It's never cheap. Some calculate by the percentage of the bike cost.

Eg. Bike cost 1K, so upgradings should never go beyond half of it. Then gain, the cost to mod a dual chainring already exceeded that. So, many will go for the full spec-ed with a cheaper price. That's why I tend to recommend the Trinx now. laugh.gif Our use, we will never exceed beyond the hardiness of the bikes. Maybe they need more maintenance. But even if they get the 18 speed Trinx, they will try to change to better brands because of peer pressure among the riders. Look at Bromptons, look at the sales. Many riders ride far and long and Bromtons are never meant for that, so suffer lorr! rclxub.gif Many 'B' riders also have other bikes for tougher terrains.

Also, many riders don't understand that, in my case, I go for the best groupset that I can afford, maybe even forced to afford. It might even cost three times the cost of the bike. But those components stays with me even when I change the bike. Like when I rode the Dahon EcoC7, it was modified to Shimano 27 speed and when I wanted to change to Dahon Speed, every part is transferred to the Speed , although old, it is still durable. Then the new components from the Speed goes to the Eco C7 and sold off.

As for Dahon SUV, that's the most basic unit from Dahon to counter the cheaper foldies. The frame is quite guaranteed but the components, you know lah! Pandai pandai loh! I also know many who buys a cheap foldie and when they get serious, they go for a higher end bike and the old one pass it to their spouse, sakit loh their spouse. laugh.gif

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Thanks for the advice, what you said is true indeed. I wanted to try out the foldie but worry that i will be hangat hangat tahi ayam, therefore dont want to invest too much as selling second hand is tough and loosing money as well. haiiiiiiii, think i need to decide what bike to go for rather than asking here and there. to me, first priority is the bike outlook, again, thats very subjective, then i want the spec, but i dont want to put in too much money (>1500), again, what you pay is what you get, cheap thing not good, good thing not cheap, understand the theory as well. so.... will just go with the flow, what comes to me that attract me and within my budget will just buy then. Thanks for replying.

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What I would also say is, stick to the popular brand and you have a good chance of recovering the price you paid. The higher your initial cost the more you will lose of course. Buyers will want something for nothing, so you just need to decide what is a fair price for you and stick to it.
So what should you get? I would go for higher end models but secondhand. If you are patient and able to wait, you will pick up one. Hard part is there will always be competition laugh.gif Decide what riding you will do as you may not need so many gears. Will a foldable bike do what you want to do?
As for upgrading, sifu is right. You can always swap the good parts back out before you sell and keep for next bike.
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for me
new rm1k below bike is a good for startup.trinx ka2016 is a good model and great value for money

16speed gear are enough already.gearing can be upgrade later so does wheelset and other things.

after a while riding with groups or so on, u can decide which bike are u want, how many gear want to use and ofcoz, that time money must have lor..hihihi

train urself if wanna improve.maybe u can adopt ur current bike and no need upgrades!
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I've seen dahon qix in kimbell jaya. It doesn't really fold small but vertical folding is quite interesting. It takes a bit of time to learn to fold but I can see once you master it, it will be a fast fold. With the third roller, the bike can be push easily.
I'm more interested in dahon eezz due to its size. However just having 3 speed, I wonder would it be enough group riding. I'm not thinking of chasing road bike, just leisurely ride for fun ride around 30km or less.

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Anyone heard of this lightweight electric/pedal (pedalec) foldable bike?

http://a-bike.co.uk/

It started off as a kickstarter campaign this year, and looks like it's ready for sale.

About 12 kg, but it comes with a battery, and folded dimension of 21cm x 40cm x 70cm.

Looks easy and small enough to carry onto the LRT even during peak hour.

Any thoughts?

Also any suggestions on where to get similar ones in KL?
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QUOTE(PaulKong @ Dec 3 2015, 10:58 PM)
I've seen dahon qix in kimbell jaya. It doesn't really fold small but vertical folding is quite interesting. It takes a bit of time to learn to fold but I can see once you master it, it will be a fast fold. With the third roller, the bike can be push easily.
I'm more interested in dahon eezz due to its size. However just having 3 speed, I wonder would it be enough group riding. I'm not thinking of chasing road bike, just leisurely ride for fun ride around 30km or less.
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Yes, I like the look of the Eezz too. The wheelbase looks a little short though, so might be a bit twitchy? 30kms? Hmmm hmm.gif
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QUOTE(tagz8 @ Dec 4 2015, 04:50 PM)
Anyone heard of this lightweight electric/pedal (pedalec) foldable bike?

http://a-bike.co.uk/

It started off as a kickstarter campaign this year, and looks like it's ready for sale.

About 12 kg, but it comes with a battery, and folded dimension of 21cm x 40cm x 70cm.

Looks easy and small enough to carry onto the LRT even during peak hour.

Any thoughts?

Also any suggestions on where to get similar ones in KL?
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The size of the wheels will put me off riding it. Not too many places you can ride that safely. Maybe good for KLIA2, hahaha
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I've just picked this up. A 2011 Dahon Speed TR. I was deciding between a Speed P8 and this, very similar price. I figured you are getting so much more for your dollar with the TR.

Sram Dual Drive which I really like.
Very adjustable handlebar stem.
Biologic dynamo front hub
Seatpost pump
Full racks
Ergon grips
Kinetic rims
MKS detachable pedals

But.....it is heavy. I can easily lose 2 kgs, but I will leave it the way it is for now. It has done some kms judging by the wear of the back tyre, but incredibly, the bike is flawless, no paint damage etc.

I rode a couple of kms back home and it felt like a big bike due to the weight. The gears all changed smoothly. Might have to tighten the clamps, adjust the hubs and headset, but other than that, all good!

Any TR fans out there? biggrin.gif

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The size of the wheels will put me off riding it.  Not too many places you can ride that safely. Maybe good for KLIA2, hahaha
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Haha, I'm considering getting a bike.

But main concerns are: sweat, which I don't want a single drop before getting to work.

And size, it has to be as small as possible to be able to get into the LRT during peak hour without causing inconvenience to anyone.

Of course biking anywhere in KL is not safe at this point in time, so I'm thinking of parking somewhere near to the LRT.

Seems like the battery assist would help alot with the first concern of sweat. Also it's small enough for me to just dump in a bigger bag while in the LRT.

Besides the A-Bike, do you have other recommendations?
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QUOTE(tagz8 @ Dec 4 2015, 07:39 PM)
Haha, I'm considering getting a bike.

But main concerns are: sweat, which I don't want a single drop before getting to work.

And size, it has to be as small as possible to be able to get into the LRT during peak hour without causing inconvenience to anyone.

Of course biking anywhere in KL is not safe at this point in time, so I'm thinking of parking somewhere near to the LRT.

Seems like the battery assist would help alot with the first concern of sweat. Also it's small enough for me to just dump in a bigger bag while in the LRT.

Besides the A-Bike, do you have other recommendations?
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When I say not safe, I mean the wheels, being so small, will get caught easily. Broken pavement, potholes, etc. If you are cruising you can easily get thrown off!
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QUOTE(desastar @ Dec 4 2015, 07:12 PM)
I've just picked this up.  A 2011 Dahon Speed TR. I was deciding between a Speed P8 and this, very similar price. I figured you are getting so much more for your dollar with the TR.

Sram Dual Drive which I really like. 
Very adjustable handlebar stem.
Biologic dynamo front hub
Seatpost pump
Full racks
Ergon grips
Kinetic rims
MKS detachable pedals

But.....it is heavy.  I can easily lose 2 kgs, but I will leave it the way it is for now.  It has done some kms judging by the wear of the back tyre, but incredibly, the bike is flawless, no paint damage etc.

I rode a couple of kms back home and it felt like a big bike due to the weight.  The gears all changed smoothly. Might have to tighten the clamps, adjust the hubs and headset, but other than that, all good!

Any TR fans out there?  biggrin.gif
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wow!!! where did you get this piece of germ?

this is one of the kind.no need to mode and u are ready for long touring i can say..i could easily pick this speed tr over the speed p8 coz its quite rare nowdays.its a collectible bike!!!

bydaway,
mind to share how much u bought this?
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this speed tr not officially sold in msia, he got frm oz for sure... biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(azamunekurone @ Dec 4 2015, 08:50 PM)
wow!!! where did you get this piece of germ?

this is one of the kind.no need to mode and u are ready for long touring i can say..i could easily pick this speed tr over the speed p8 coz its quite rare nowdays.its a collectible bike!!!

bydaway,
mind to share how much u bought this?
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Yes, this is probably rare, but I think it was sold in M'sia, if I'm not wrong it was around RM4500.

If I tell you what I paid for it, I will have to kill you, hahahaha!

Yes, bought here in Oz for A$600.
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QUOTE(desastar @ Dec 4 2015, 07:12 PM)
I've just picked this up.  A 2011 Dahon Speed TR. I was deciding between a Speed P8 and this, very similar price. I figured you are getting so much more for your dollar with the TR.

Sram Dual Drive which I really like. 
Very adjustable handlebar stem.
Biologic dynamo front hub
Seatpost pump
Full racks
Ergon grips
Kinetic rims
MKS detachable pedals

But.....it is heavy.  I can easily lose 2 kgs, but I will leave it the way it is for now.  It has done some kms judging by the wear of the back tyre, but incredibly, the bike is flawless, no paint damage etc.

I rode a couple of kms back home and it felt like a big bike due to the weight.  The gears all changed smoothly. Might have to tighten the clamps, adjust the hubs and headset, but other than that, all good!

Any TR fans out there?  biggrin.gif
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thumbup.gif thumbup.gif This is the touring version of Dahon Speed. Nice choice and colour. Itu Se 'suku' have got 2 of the same but black.

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QUOTE(H2D @ Dec 4 2015, 09:04 PM)
this speed tr not officially sold in msia, he got frm oz for sure... biggrin.gif
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The Speed TR in exactly the same specs can be found in M'sia, at least on the internet. There was a review done by the chap named Sam Cheong. Probably didn't sell too many due to the high price. Same here in Oz.
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QUOTE(etigge @ Dec 4 2015, 09:54 PM)
thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif  This is the touring version of Dahon Speed. Nice choice and colour. Itu Sam 'suku' have got 2 of the same but black.
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Thanks Sifu. I believe these were the last Dahons made in Taiwan? The only thing missing is the Reecharge power pack that you can charge your phone with.
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QUOTE(desastar @ Dec 4 2015, 07:12 PM)
I've just picked this up.  A 2011 Dahon Speed TR. I was deciding between a Speed P8 and this, very similar price. I figured you are getting so much more for your dollar with the TR.

Sram Dual Drive which I really like. 
Very adjustable handlebar stem.
Biologic dynamo front hub
Seatpost pump
Full racks
Ergon grips
Kinetic rims
MKS detachable pedals

But.....it is heavy.  I can easily lose 2 kgs, but I will leave it the way it is for now.  It has done some kms judging by the wear of the back tyre, but incredibly, the bike is flawless, no paint damage etc.

I rode a couple of kms back home and it felt like a big bike due to the weight.  The gears all changed smoothly. Might have to tighten the clamps, adjust the hubs and headset, but other than that, all good!

Any TR fans out there?  biggrin.gif
Looks very retro. The front wheel there's power supply for lights, right? I see alot of bike in japan having this kind of dynamo. Does it slow down the wheel?... Btw, May i know what is the different between speed tr and speed d8?

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QUOTE(PaulKong @ Dec 4 2015, 11:43 PM)
Looks very retro. The front wheel there's power supply for lights, right? I see alot of bike in japan having this kind of dynamo. Does it slow down the wheel?... Btw, May i know what is the different between speed tr and speed d8?
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Yes, it has the Biologic dynamo hub. I guess it must create some drag but not that noticeably.

I had a Speed D7 previously and it has the same cromoly frame, but no frills. Still a good riding bike. The D8 is the latest version of the Speed. Looks like they've dropped the P8, and I think the Archer is closer in spec to the P8. Sifu can confirm.

The Speed TR is simply the touring version and has the SRAM dual drive hub and racks, and a lot of
other nice extras. Nothing really to upgrade.

Now that Dahons are Chinese made, I wonder if there are any noticeable differences in quality?
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nowdays dahon from china are not that much different as long as the china manufacturer follow the quality control..

but dahon made from china around year 2013-2014 bundle with a lousy component.the new 2015 equipt with goodies just like the era of dahon made in taiwan.

as for groupset, i dont care about the groupset as long as the frame are good.besides i do have good groupset to use with the dahon..

bydaway, those speed tr are a good buy! keep it as the bike is a collector bike!
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QUOTE(desastar @ Dec 4 2015, 08:01 PM)
When I say not safe, I mean the wheels, being so small, will get caught easily.  Broken pavement, potholes, etc. If you are cruising you can easily get thrown off!
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Haha yeah, but I'm looking at travelling about a maximum of 3.5 km per day only.

Which is a total of approximately 30 - 45 minutes walk time, but much lesser if using a bike.
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It seems that you ride your 16" fnhon bike quite regular. May I know why? 😄😄😄
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nowdays dahon from china are not that much different as long as the china manufacturer follow the quality control..

but dahon made from china around year 2013-2014 bundle with a lousy component.the new 2015 equipt with goodies just like the era of dahon made in taiwan.

as for groupset, i dont care about the groupset as long as the frame are good.besides i do have good groupset to use with the dahon..

bydaway, those speed tr are a good buy! keep it as the bike is a collector bike!
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Good to hear the Chinese Dahon are good quality. Yes the TRs seems to be fairly rare. I'll keep it until I run out of room again! If only all folding bikes are this good!!




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It seems that you ride your 16" fnhon bike quite regular. May I know why? 😄😄😄
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its easy bro.
the main reason is compactness. i put my bike on my car (viva) and i need compact bike as i also load my family with me. i dont have B's (that is i possibly won't buy for now,u can get a good roadbike with that price). 30km route or below i usually rode my 16" bike laugh.gif

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Good to hear the Chinese Dahon are good quality. Yes the TRs seems to be fairly rare. I'll keep it until I run out of room again! If only all folding bikes are this good!!
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if u want to sell it, please advertise here 1st. i might recomend this bike more compare to the tern verge s27i (folding touring bike). the chromoly frame is the best material for touring!
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its easy bro.
the main reason is compactness. i put my bike on my car (viva) and i need compact bike as i also load my family with me. i dont have B's (that is i possibly won't buy for now,u can get a good roadbike with that price). 30km route or below i usually rode my 16" bike laugh.gif
if u want to sell it, please advertise here 1st. i might recomend this bike more compare to the tern verge s27i (folding touring bike). the chromoly frame is the best material for touring!
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Sure, will let you know first, although this will be tricky bringing with me on the plane. Hey maybe I can visit you in Ipoh and go for a ride! Never been there.

Can you get the Mu P24 there? Should be the same gearing but alloy frame, which some people prefer because it is a little lighter.

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Quick question, where can I buy a good headset for the Dahon in KL? Are the Litepro ones genuine? Haha
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QUOTE(desastar @ Dec 6 2015, 06:40 AM)
Sure, will let you know first, although this will be tricky bringing with me on the plane. Hey maybe I can visit you in Ipoh and go for a ride! Never been there.

Can you get the Mu P24 there? Should be the same gearing but alloy frame, which some people prefer because it is a little lighter.
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mu p24 its are a bit rare here. the mu p27 can get,but only used one.that mu p27 is a made in china version with dr hon 30th anniversary version!

bydaway, i dont like the mu frame coz dont have chainstay on it (accept for mu slx).dont get me wrong,its just my personal opinion only.

anyway, u can drop by here in ipoh anytime.just let me know and i will adjust some lovely ride for you if the time permits.

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Quick question, where can I buy a good headset for the Dahon in KL? Are the Litepro ones genuine? Haha
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err.. if u buy here i think the litepro one are genuine. if im not mistaken litepro got its representative here in malaysia

maybe u can try few shop like kimbell jaya or my bicycle shop.if online fb shop i like to buy from mike bicycle shop.its cheaper than other online shop (depends on what u are buying) and got many folding bike item!
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Quick question, where can I buy a good headset for the Dahon in KL? Are the Litepro ones genuine? Haha
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There are many fake Litepro around but then how do we distinguish one from the other rclxub.gif All of them are light. You can get a good seal bearing from GW Cycle Boutique in Kota Kemuning. I have actually use the normal integrated headset for mountain bikes on the Dahons and it does fit except you got to use a few old parts like the top cover and probably the spacer from the old headset. The bearing holder and the sealed bearing can fit into the 44mm headtube of the folding bike.

laugh.gif But the mountain bike headset is more expensive than the folding bike ones. So, makes no sense unless you have a spare old unit lying around.

Still best choice is GW Cycle. thumbup.gif
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Isn't it a shame these days that we don't really know what we buy is the real thing or a fake. Or perhaps it was produced by the same factory anyway?

GW Cycles looks good. I should pay them a visit in a few weeks time and check out the bikes. Didn't know they have Birdys. Do they allow test rides? 🤔
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QUOTE(desastar @ Dec 6 2015, 05:00 PM)
Isn't it a shame these days that we don't really know what we buy is the real thing or a fake. Or perhaps it was produced by the same factory anyway?

GW Cycles looks good. I should pay them a visit in a few weeks time and check out the bikes. Didn't know they have Birdys. Do they allow test rides? 🤔
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Many years ago, GW was an importer for those container bicycles from Japan. Slowly they became an agent for Pedalsport. One of the brands then was Pacific Cycles which are IF Reach and Birdys. Later when Pedalsport gave up the franchise, GW took over and now they even have the President of Pacific Cycles visiting them. GW successfully maintained what Pedalsport failed to do. Now Pedalsport is the franchised importer for Bromptons but their main interest are SRAM and Rockshox.

I am sure you can test ride. You can use Fei Lee's or Phoebe's own bike.
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Wow, you certainly know people in the business eh?

BTW is Rodalink's prices generally good? I'm going to get a couple of Schwalbe tyres if they are cheaper in KL. Can't decide to just replace the back Big Apple or replace both with Marathon Supremes. I know Marathon Plus is probably best but I don't do that many kms, so I think the Supremes would be fine.

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Guys, want to thank you all for the advice, i have confirmed order for Java Pro 451 new model, will be collecting the bike this weekend, thanks for all the help.
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Guys, want to thank you all for the advice, i have confirmed order for Java Pro 451 new model, will be collecting the bike this weekend, thanks for all the help.
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Sifu etigge have been helpful in my previous modding endeavor smile.gif But now i want to ask everyone here.
I have reading online a lot but couldn't find any answer. Is it possible to convert my existing brake system to caliper brake & still use the sks mudguard?
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Sifu, ~ 2 year old Dahon MU P8 worth buying at rm1200?, seldom use per user... icon_question.gif
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QUOTE(hnr2802 @ Dec 8 2015, 07:23 PM)
Sifu etigge have been helpful in my previous modding endeavor smile.gif  But now i want to ask everyone here.
I have reading online a lot but couldn't find any answer. Is it possible to convert my existing brake system to caliper brake & still use the sks mudguard?
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Sifu, ~ 2 year old Dahon MU P8 worth buying at rm1200?, seldom use per user... icon_question.gif
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But my bike still cqn use caliper brakes?
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Why don't you try it out? There's a few factors involve. What size tyre will you use? Is there a provision to use caliper brakes on your fork? Some brake caliper will have longer arms to suit the fork you have. The mudguard is usually bolted through the caliper bolt anyway, but if you are using wider tyres, then it may not fit.

I've never tried myself as I found the V-brakes more than sufficient.

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Well I've taken the Speed TR for a longer ride after adjusting all the clamps and headset. Rides much tighter now. The ride is very supple as you would expect from a Speed, but more so now with the Big Apple tyres. I might have jumped the gun a bit dismissing those wide tyres. They are actually not too bad. Soaks up bump etc very well, so much so it felt like having suspension!

The Speed TR is never going to win races, but at touring speed, 20kmh or so, it makes sense. Push it and you will tire yourself out, ride it at the sweet spot and you can go forever. My Bike Friday Tikit is much faster with its 16" wheels, but the ride is harsh compared to the TR.

I will stick with the Big Apples as they actually weigh less than the Marathon/Marathon Plus. To lighten the bike a bit, I'll just replace the seat pump post and remove the front frack. I may even try and get a new front wheel and not bother with the dynamo hub and I seldom ride at night. I think that should just put enough sparkle into the bike!
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I'm intending to tour next year.

I'm thinking of having a front load instead of a back load. Pros and cons?

Am using a Dahon Speed D8/P8. Am in the midst of getting all the stuff that I'll need. Intending to tour from March 2016.
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hello, question about general bike, non folding.

I wanna ask, if classic bike like this, usually only single gear. is it possible to make it to have gears? for climbing general housing area hilly places:

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I always like the classic look but usually they only have single speed.


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planning to get one folding bike.

can someone recommend me ?

budget around 300-500
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project rebuild 2016 : part 1 - the wheelset

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16" 305 wheelset
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project rebuild 2016 : part 1 - the wheelset

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16" 305 wheelset
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where did you bought that wheelset? how is it compare to wheelsport?
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What do you bicycle connoisseurs reckon on the Tern B7?

I'm looking for something under under 1.5k with a dependable frame for commuting.




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where did you bought that wheelset? how is it compare to wheelsport?
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compare a litepro 16“ with my 20" wheelsport?

hahaha, dont know yet bro.my wheelsport already moded the hub when i bought. besides,those litepro wheelset also didnt mount yet on my next 16" project bike.

almost all my wheelset i modified the hub (change more higher rpm bearings).

u can pm billybikeshop @ taiping for the price.i bought from him..

p/s: those litepro rim is 305 and not like brompton 349

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QUOTE(dilgoh @ Dec 9 2015, 09:38 AM)
I'm intending to tour next year. 

I'm thinking of having a front load instead of a back load.  Pros and cons?

Am using a Dahon Speed D8/P8.  Am in the midst of getting all the stuff that I'll need.  Intending to tour from March 2016.
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Depends on how much stuff you want to carry. The front rack is lower to the ground so you can only have smaller panniers. Once loaded up, the front will have a heavier feel obviously. If you have a touring rack at the back, I'd rather use that. If not and the smaller pannier suits, it's ok too.
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QUOTE(o.d @ Dec 9 2015, 02:30 PM)
hello, question about general bike, non folding.

I wanna ask, if classic bike like this, usually only single gear. is it possible to make it to have gears? for climbing general housing area hilly places:

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I always like the classic look but usually they only have single speed.
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If the bike is only single speed, then you are unlikely to have a rear derailleur mount. Easiest would be to get a hub gear, maybe a three speed and they will give you a wider range. I have a modern single speed and I can get to most places, so you'll need to know where you ride and accept its limitations.
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QUOTE(azamunekurone @ Dec 9 2015, 07:12 PM)
compare a litepro 16“ with my 20" wheelsport?

hahaha, dont know yet bro.my wheelsport already moded the hub when i bought. besides,those litepro wheelset also didnt mount yet on my next 16" project bike.

almost all my wheelset i modified the hub (change more higher rpm bearings).

u can pm billybikeshop @ taiping for the price.i bought from him..

p/s: those litepro rim is 305 and not like brompton 349
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I think I can guess what the project is. Should be very nice rclxms.gif

I was also getting a price from Billy for some tyres. Didn't know he has wheelsets too. What brand are the ones you've bought? His prices good?
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QUOTE(desastar @ Dec 9 2015, 07:57 PM)
I think I can guess what the project is.  Should be very nice  rclxms.gif

I was also getting a price from Billy for some tyres.  Didn't know he has wheelsets too. What brand are the ones you've bought?  His prices good?
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i also bought a pair of tyre from billy for that litepro wheelset. i bought kenda 1.2 tyre from him around rm80/pair if i can recall it right.that wheelset cost around rn4++

forgot already the exact price,but as a regular customer and a good friend,for sure got special price from billy laugh.gif


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What hub do upgrade to?
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hahahah, i didnt change the hub. i change the internal seal bearings / bearings to the higher rpm type of bearings.

that one, i cant do it for myself.my friend do it for me laugh.gif

the cost are much cheaper than changing the whole hub, but twice the performance!
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hahahah, i didnt change the hub. i change the internal seal bearings / bearings to the higher rpm type of bearings.

that one, i cant do it for myself.my friend do it for me laugh.gif

the cost are much cheaper than changing the whole hub, but twice the performance!
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Can share ur friend contact number hahaha
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QUOTE(hnr2802 @ Dec 9 2015, 09:46 PM)
Can share ur friend contact number hahaha
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the question is, are you willing to travel up to ipoh to do it?

i think major old bikeshop know how to do it.basicly this method already been done by many rb cyclist/rb pomen long time ago. the different is nowdays, roadbike wheelset manufacturer (branded and good one) does sell their hub bearing spareparts for upgrade.. laugh.gif
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I m about to buy used Dahon MU p8, any thing shud I pay attention to during inspection? Ur advice is highly appreciated.
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billy shop got many choice for 451 wheelset?
if so, can singgah when blk kpg nanti..
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QUOTE(266K @ Dec 10 2015, 09:20 AM)
I m about to buy used Dahon MU p8, any thing shud I pay attention to during inspection? Ur advice is highly appreciated.
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just check the folding mechanism only

QUOTE(oxygen_ @ Dec 10 2015, 10:50 AM)
billy shop got many choice for 451 wheelset?
if so, can singgah when blk kpg nanti..
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i dont think he keep stock.maybe can oder if u know what model
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Would u rather buy new Tern Link B7 at 1360 or used MU P8 at 1200? For me newbie the entry link b7 look tempting but MU P8 got better spec right?

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QUOTE(266K @ Dec 10 2015, 01:29 PM)
Would u rather buy new Tern Link B7 at 1360 or used MU P8 at 1200? For me newbie the entry link b7 look tempting but MU P8 got better spec right?
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Salam guys & sifus!

I ride mtb, but now i nak layan folding bike. Can ride rileks2 & selfies... smile.gif smile.gif smile.gif

Can you all give an opinion for this bike:

Dahon Vigor D9 - Tern Verge P9 - Java Fit 16s - or other bikes suggestion price below 3k.
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QUOTE(266K @ Dec 10 2015, 01:29 PM)
Would u rather buy new Tern Link B7 at 1360 or used MU P8 at 1200? For me newbie the entry link b7 look tempting but MU P8 got better spec right?
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I would definitely buy a used higher end model rather than a new entry model. You get better/nicer parts. It is only a bicycle, so don't worry if it is a few years old. Make sure the frame is not damage, hinges ok, and everything else is adjustable.

You buy a entry model, then upgrade, you will definitely over-spend and definitely lose money. sweat.gif
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QUOTE(RidingTheBus1997 @ Dec 9 2015, 06:30 PM)
What do you bicycle connoisseurs reckon on the Tern B7?

I'm looking for something under under 1.5k with a dependable frame for commuting.
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Looking at the specs, this bike is likely to be low geared. The 7 speed may be more difficult to upgrade if it is a freewheel and not cassette. Best to go for a test ride and see if it can handle the speed you are likely to travel at.
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QUOTE(lone @ Dec 10 2015, 05:08 PM)
Salam guys & sifus!

I ride mtb, but now i nak layan folding bike. Can ride rileks2 & selfies... smile.gif smile.gif smile.gif

Can you all give an opinion for this bike:

Dahon Vigor D9 - Tern Verge P9 - Java Fit 16s - or other bikes suggestion price below 3k.
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vigor p9 all da way!! if i can afford more, and why not verge p9
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Hi, to all the situation, I'm a beginner here. May I know where to get Tern Link P24h in Malaysia? Or can you recommend any other touring bike? As I have no idea at all...million thanks!
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May I know where to get Tern Link P24 h in Malaysia ??as I've tried asking around and hv been told that it is not available anymore.

Or is there any touring bike that is below rm 3k that Sufi can recommend?

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Oops! I mean to all the sifu*

May I know where to get Tern Link P24 h in Malaysia ??as I've tried asking around and hv been told that it is not available anymore.

Or is there any touring bike that is below rm 3k that Sufi can recommend?
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This Tern Link P24 would be similar to my Speed TR. Both dual drive but Tern uses a Sturmey Archer hub whereas mine uses the SRAM. Ive read that the SA hub is not as good due to slippage and Tern later phased it out and I think gone back to SRAM. I have to say that the SRAM hub is very good.
Looks like you'll have to wait for a second hand one to appear or maybe get something like the Speed P8, or equivalent from Tern.
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errm... i'm thinking to get a cheap foldable bicycle ...
saw some on groupon.my from about 300-500+,
are those okay? don't think will go on/off road, I just want ride in my neighborhood *occasionally* as a casual sport. not much expectation as long as it don't kaput for no reason within few years on minor usage will do.

pro pls dun tembak me ahahaha
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Oops! I mean to all the sifu*

May I know where to get Tern Link P24 h in Malaysia ??as I've tried asking around and hv been told that it is not available anymore.

Or is there any touring bike that is below rm 3k that Sufi can recommend?
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If you are really into the P24, it actually can be modded from a usual Tern Link. You have to start from the Link off course. The dual drive is still available online and 8 speed usual drive is everywhere. In fact the cost might be even cheaper. Just google SRAM dual drive and check the online sites. On the flip side, if the drive is the prime reason, there's no barring that other frames can be used, eg. Dahon Speed, MU, Falco or even their sister frames from FnHon.

Again, hahaaaha...................Why not the whole 30 speed with the regular FD and FD ? laugh.gif Also this don't make the rear heavy like the Link P24. It's really heavy at the rear. Cheers! thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(LickGuy @ Dec 11 2015, 12:26 AM)
errm... i'm thinking to get a cheap foldable bicycle ...
saw some on groupon.my from about 300-500+,
are those okay? don't think will go on/off road, I just want ride in my neighborhood *occasionally* as a casual sport. not much expectation as long as it don't kaput for no reason within few years on minor usage will do.

pro pls dun tembak me ahahaha
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One word says all............No tembakking! laugh.gif Those bikes won't last you a few years. nod.gif
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QUOTE(etigge @ Dec 11 2015, 07:55 AM)
One word says all............No tembakking!  laugh.gif Those bikes won't last you a few years.  nod.gif
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if so, can u recommend me which type of bike is suitable ?

if possible below 1k


http://bicyclebuysell.com/item/330135/pega...4-speed-shimano



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if so, can u recommend me which type of bike is suitable ? 

if possible below 1k
http://bicyclebuysell.com/item/330135/pega...4-speed-shimano
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Go for the more reputable brands like Dahon, Tern or even Raleighs which is well within your 1K budget. The Dahon SUV is about RM800 only. Tern is higher, the entry level is 1.4K but the Dahon Route which has similar specs is much cheaper than that. I think you should visit a bike shop and if you are in Klang Valley, go Kimbell Jaya. Stocks most of the brands available, even the MIT, TXed which are hard to come by. Go 'cuci mata' also OK mah! tongue.gif

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QUOTE(desastar @ Dec 10 2015, 09:56 PM)
This Tern Link P24 would be similar to my Speed TR. Both dual drive but Tern uses a Sturmey Archer hub whereas mine uses the SRAM. Ive read that the SA hub is not as good due to slippage and Tern later phased it out and I think gone back to SRAM. I have to say that the SRAM hub is very good.
Looks like you'll have to wait for a second hand one to appear or maybe get something like the Speed P8, or equivalent from Tern.
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Thanks for the info! But where can I get Dahon Speed TR? I'be been searching high and low for both tern and dahon but they told me is not available nowadays...

Perhaps are you interested to sell off yours?? *wink! *wink! tongue.gif !
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QUOTE(etigge @ Dec 11 2015, 07:54 AM)
If you are really into the P24, it actually can be modded from a usual Tern Link. You have to start from the Link off course. The dual drive is still available online and 8 speed usual drive is everywhere. In fact the cost might be even cheaper. Just google SRAM dual drive and check the online sites. On the flip side, if the drive is the prime reason, there's no barring that other frames can be used, eg. Dahon Speed, MU, Falco or even their sister frames from FnHon.

Again, hahaaaha...................Why not the whole 30 speed with the regular FD and FD ?  laugh.gif  Also this don't make the rear heavy like the Link P24. It's really heavy at the rear. Cheers!  thumbup.gif
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Thanks for the advise but I'm currently in Kuching and am a beginner....So have no idea where and how to start with it...*sob..
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QUOTE(etigge @ Dec 11 2015, 12:09 PM)
Go for the more reputable brands like Dahon, Tern or even Raleighs which is well within your 1K budget. The Dahon SUV is about RM800 only. Tern is higher, the entry level is 1.4K but the Dahon Route which has similar specs is much cheaper than that. I think you should visit a bike shop and if you are in Klang Valley, go Kimbell Jaya. Stocks most of the brands available, even the MIT, TXed which are hard to come by. Go 'cuci mata' also OK mah!  tongue.gif
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thnaks, i will go there and have a look
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QUOTE(nicolelcb210 @ Dec 11 2015, 12:20 PM)
Thanks for the info! But where can I get Dahon Speed TR? I'be been searching high and low for both tern and dahon but they told me is not available nowadays...

Perhaps are you interested to sell off yours?? *wink! *wink! tongue.gif !
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You are a few years too late! These are all discontinued.

Sell to you? Sure, will cost you both arms and legs seeing that you are in Kuching. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(desastar @ Dec 11 2015, 03:52 PM)
You are a few years too late!  These are all discontinued. 

Sell to you?  Sure, will cost you both arms and legs seeing that you are in Kuching.  biggrin.gif
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I'm actually from selangor but working in Kuching...So no problem with the postage as can just collect it from peninsula and send it as cargo with me...and good things are hard to find...So if u r really interested to sale pls let me know...

And I do hope u wanna sell it...smile.gif

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QUOTE(etigge @ Dec 11 2015, 07:54 AM)
If you are really into the P24, it actually can be modded from a usual Tern Link. You have to start from the Link off course. The dual drive is still available online and 8 speed usual drive is everywhere. In fact the cost might be even cheaper. Just google SRAM dual drive and check the online sites. On the flip side, if the drive is the prime reason, there's no barring that other frames can be used, eg. Dahon Speed, MU, Falco or even their sister frames from FnHon.

Again, hahaaaha...................Why not the whole 30 speed with the regular FD and FD ?  laugh.gif  Also this don't make the rear heavy like the Link P24. It's really heavy at the rear. Cheers!  thumbup.gif
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I have considered modding but it actually cost too much. SRAM dual drive hub will be at least US250-300 plus shipping, plus shifters.
If you have a contact to get cheap SRAM DD hub, please let me know as I'm interested to get one for my single speed bike.
Thanks! biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(desastar @ Dec 12 2015, 06:38 AM)
I have considered modding but it actually cost too much. SRAM dual drive hub will be at least US250-300 plus shipping, plus shifters.
If you have a contact to get cheap SRAM DD hub, please let me know as I'm interested to get one for my single speed bike.
Thanks!  biggrin.gif
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When SRAM started, they don't have an internal gear division. They then took over SACHS. Those days, only Sturmey Archers and Sachs are the main players. Sturmey Archers is around even when I was riding a Raleigh Chopper 1977 (also 3 speed) and they lasted till today. After SRAM took over Sachs, the price skyrocketed because of their branding and not necessary because of their expertise. So, why limit yourself to a SRAM ? hmm.gif

Sturmey Archers actually have 5 and 8 speed (if I can recall). The 5 speed shares the same interior measurements with the 3 speed. That means if you can buy the 5 speed innards ( probably from UK ), you can fit it into a 3 speed Brompton hub. SO, that converts the 6 speed into 10 speed. Nobody here does that here. I have actually bought an old SA hubs and dis-assembled it and rebuilt it and it is actually not that hard. Alas, Brompton owners don't trust non-Brompton owners to do their precious bikes so I never service for anyone before.

I would rather go for the Shimano Alfine which comes in 8 speed (very cheap nowadays) but the 11 speed would cover more ratios. A cheaper option will be the Shimano Nexus which is 8 speed. Best option of all, I would say IMO wink.gif is to hunt for a used Rohloff in eBay. thumbup.gif 14 speed which covers almost the entire 3 X 9 speed of the conventional FD and RD gearing systems. Also Rohloff are maintenance free!

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I found adv this bike today. Anyone here has ride this bike?

http://bicyclebuysell.com/item/318886/java...ke-offer-rm2400

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Cromoly frame, carbon fiber fork, front & rear derailleur Shimano Sora 18speed, Shimano Altus Shifters, Deca 451 Cattiva Wheelsets, Prowheel ATIA crank, 10.5kg only, etc
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QUOTE(etigge @ Dec 12 2015, 08:54 AM)
When SRAM started, they don't have an internal gear division. They then took over SACHS. Those days, only Sturmey Archers and Sachs are the main players. Sturmey Archers is around even when I was riding a Raleigh Chopper 1977 (also 3 speed) and they lasted till today. After SRAM took over Sachs, the price skyrocketed because of their branding and not necessary because of their expertise. So, why limit yourself to a SRAM ?  hmm.gif

Sturmey Archers actually have 5 and 8 speed (if I can recall). The 5 speed shares the same interior measurements with the 3 speed. That means if you can buy the 5 speed innards ( probably from UK ), you can fit it into a 3 speed Brompton hub. SO, that converts the 6 speed into 10 speed. Nobody here does that here. I have actually bought an old SA hubs and dis-assembled it and rebuilt it and it is actually not that hard. Alas, Brompton owners don't trust non-Brompton owners to do their precious bikes so I never service for anyone before.

I would rather go for the Shimano Alfine which comes in 8 speed (very cheap nowadays) but the 11 speed would cover more ratios. A cheaper option will be the Shimano Nexus which is 8 speed. Best option of all, I would say IMO  wink.gif  is to hunt for a used Rohloff in eBay.  thumbup.gif 14 speed which covers almost the entire 3 X 9 speed of the conventional FD and RD gearing systems. Also Rohloff are maintenance free!

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Yes there are options but I like the combination of cassette and hub. I had an Alfine hub before on two bikes, but it was heavy and there's always one ratio "missing" due to the gaps in the ratios. The SA 5 speed is apparently less reliable than the 3 speed. Funny though, the 3 speed Sachs in my Bromption shifts less smoothly than the current BWR hub, but the SRAM DD 3 speed is just as good plus you have the benefit of playing with more ratios to suit, and the hub is lighter. Rohloff would be amazing but the weight......
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Ok, not sure if there's any interest for a Dahon Stow bag? I have a brand new one. These were US$140 shocking.gif which means they cost the same as some bikes!

These are nicely padded and thick. Is that good value for money? You'll have to decide. But please do not compare these with what you find on Taobao ok?

Asking US$110


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QUOTE(lone @ Dec 12 2015, 09:54 AM)
I found adv this bike today. Anyone here has ride this bike?

http://bicyclebuysell.com/item/318886/java...ke-offer-rm2400

JAVA IRA
Cromoly frame, carbon fiber fork, front & rear derailleur Shimano Sora 18speed, Shimano Altus Shifters, Deca 451 Cattiva Wheelsets, Prowheel ATIA crank, 10.5kg only, etc
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Hi... I own a java IRA. It's a nice bike to ride. However, the cassette are using 11 to 25, it's not so good in climbing hill but it's really smooth in changing gear.
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QUOTE(desastar @ Dec 10 2015, 06:46 PM)
I would definitely buy a used higher end model rather than a new entry model.  You get better/nicer parts.  It is only a bicycle, so don't worry if it is a few years old.  Make sure the frame is not damage, hinges ok, and everything else is adjustable.

You buy a entry model, then upgrade, you will definitely over-spend and definitely lose money.   sweat.gif
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owned by lady, din take care of it real good.. sweat.gif

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final deal done @ 1k. thx sifu for advice, think I m going to like it, even this one actually for my princess...

owned by lady, din take care of it real good.. sweat.gif
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OK the lady obviously did not look after the bike too well. I would give it a good clean and polish and good oiling. Looks like it has been left outdoors? Check if gear changes smoothly as the cables may have stretched and the RD is a bit rusted. Are the rims running true and brakes OK? If she hadn't used it much, the folding clamps should be tight. Just check.

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Can someone please recommend a good bike shop in Penang? I'm heading over there soon, and I want to see if I can get some parts there. I know there's a new Brompton shop, what about other foldies?

Thanks!
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Can someone please recommend a good bike shop in Penang?  I'm heading over there soon, and I want to see if I can get some parts there. I know there's a new Brompton shop, what about other foldies?

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http://www.ternbicycles.com/dealers/7498

Syarikat Chin Aik selling Tern.

That is a guy name KentAng selling Dahon in buysell new used bike in Page 1 link.

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QUOTE(desastar @ Dec 13 2015, 07:40 PM)
OK the lady obviously did not look after the bike too well. I would give it a good clean and polish and good oiling. Looks like it has been left outdoors? Check if gear changes smoothly as the cables may have stretched and the RD is a bit rusted. Are the rims running true and brakes OK? If she hadn't used it much, the folding clamps should be tight. Just check.
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Luckily all clamps, gears, brakes working fine. rclxms.gif

I only own single gear bike so dun know how to describe whether gear shift smooth or not. blush.gif

I used IPA cleaned up stain on body but having tough time remove those tiny black dot on rear wheel, any suggestion?
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i just wanna know is there any folding club in kl? searching facebook couldnt find one. maybe they use a unique name for their club.
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anyone heard about local foldingbike brand called Asogo ? any good ? the price seems quite affordable/cheap !!

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Luckily all clamps, gears, brakes working fine.  rclxms.gif

I only own single gear bike so dun know how to describe whether gear shift smooth or not.  blush.gif

I used IPA cleaned up stain on body but having tough time remove those tiny black dot on rear wheel, any suggestion?
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Not sure what black you are referring to. Try rubbing some degreaser on it and see if that dissolves it?
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Guys, we're these ever sold in Msia? I've seen the ones with 16" wheels but not with 20" wheels. Thinking of buying one....what do you think?




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I'm bringing the foldie on touring. How should/do I lock the foldie especially at camp sites?

I never have to lock my stuff when in hostels. Just thinking/looking at options to secure though there may not be a need to.

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i just wanna know is there any folding club in kl? searching facebook couldnt find one. maybe they use a unique name for their club.
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New folding bike coming. Launching this 20th December. Folds like a Brompton, much much lighter than a Brompton and wheels a full 18 inch, bigger than a Brompton. It's marketed at USD2400 for the regular black colour and USD2500 for the blue/black ones. Fully carbon fibre inclusive the handlepost and handlebars, seat post too,Interested contact Chedech at
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QUOTE(desastar @ Dec 14 2015, 12:53 PM)
Guys, we're these ever sold in Msia? I've seen the ones with 16" wheels but not with 20" wheels. Thinking of buying one....what do you think?
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this model i saw only in thailand.thus this bike also not so popular here in malaysia.better still u bring back dahon iii (dahon classic) sold here around rm1k and above.also not to forget dahon da bike sold here around rm500 and above.its really a nice piece of germ!

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i just wanna know is there any folding club in kl? searching facebook couldnt find one. maybe they use a unique name for their club.
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QUOTE(azamunekurone @ Dec 14 2015, 09:05 PM)
this model i saw only in thailand.thus this bike also not so popular here in malaysia.better still u bring back dahon iii (dahon classic) sold here around rm1k and above.also not to forget dahon da bike sold here around rm500 and above.its really a nice piece of germ!
hmm nice one.but how about the price?is the price like B?
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Strange, I would have thought the 20" would be more popular. I know there is a Dahon Classic club somewhere and they have pretty nicely done up bikes. Looks nice but in its original form may not ride that well.
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QUOTE(etigge @ Dec 14 2015, 08:21 PM)
New folding bike coming. Launching this 20th December.  Folds like a Brompton, much much lighter than a Brompton and wheels a full 18 inch, bigger than a Brompton. It's marketed at USD2400 for the regular black colour and USD2500 for the blue/black ones. Fully carbon fibre inclusive the handlepost and handlebars, seat post too,Interested contact Chedech at
https://www.facebook.com/chedechbike/
This bike has no provision for mudguards or rack so that alone will put some people off. The existing rear guard looks weird. I still like my foldy in steel or titanium and 9kg is not light for a carbon one don't you think?
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QUOTE(desastar @ Dec 15 2015, 05:57 AM)
Strange, I would have thought the 20" would be more popular. I know there is a Dahon Classic club somewhere and they have pretty nicely done up bikes. Looks nice but in its original form may not ride that well.
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but the 16" dahon iii or da bike are a bit more popular here in malaysia. and the price are going up depends on condition.

i think maybe the dahon classic owner may have few folding bike that is 20" sized.
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Sifu, I need to remove rear wheel cassette for cleaning. May I know if the 3 in 1 tool will do... icon_question.gif

Never done it before... blush.gif

http://bicyclebuysell.com/item/308790/bb-o...tte-opener-rm30

is a Dahon MU P8 btw.

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Sifu, I need to remove rear wheel cassette for cleaning. May I know if the 3 in 1 tool will  do... icon_question.gif

Never done it before... blush.gif

http://bicyclebuysell.com/item/308790/bb-o...tte-opener-rm30

is a Dahon MU P8 btw.
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You still need a cassette opening tool. The one shown is just to hold the cassette. And also you need a spanner wide enough to unlock the cassette opener.
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QUOTE(desastar @ Dec 15 2015, 06:04 AM)
This bike has no provision for mudguards or rack so that alone will put some people off. The existing rear guard looks weird. I still like my foldy in steel or titanium and 9kg is not light for a carbon one don't you think?
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I don't think they planned to put in a rack. Their description of the foldie is folding velo laugh.gif hahaaa. I think it is 11kg but if you carry one around and especially if you are a lady, a 11kg foldie is much much more relief than a 14kg + Brompton. My only doubt is the flexing and creaking found in most carbon frames. Even the Oribike creaks like nobody's business. Still, waiting for the blasted Dahon Curl to be launched so that comparisons can be made is wiser.
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QUOTE(desastar @ Dec 9 2015, 07:51 PM)
If the bike is only single speed, then you are unlikely to have a rear derailleur mount.  Easiest would be to get a hub gear, maybe a three speed and they will give you a wider range.  I have a modern single speed and I can get to most places, so you'll need to know where you ride and accept its limitations.
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QUOTE(etigge @ Dec 15 2015, 10:58 AM)
You still need a cassette opening tool. The one shown is just to hold the cassette. And also you need a spanner wide enough to unlock the cassette opener.
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I hv a big spanner, is lockring is standard size for all bikes? Or bike specific?

I saw on YouTube like that tool(cassette holder)+ spanner only sweat.gif

Sorry totally noob on bike, used to just let bike shop fix everything.

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I hv a big spanner, is lockring is standard size for all bikes? Or bike specific?

I saw on YouTube like that tool(cassette holder)+ spanner only sweat.gif

Sorry totally noob on bike, used to just let bike shop fix everything.
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Get the Shimano type and it should fit. Presumably you have a cassette, not a freewheel?

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Asogo folding bike any good ? price seems pretty affordable / cheap !
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Asogo folding bike any good ?  price seems pretty affordable / cheap !
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Get the Shimano type and it should fit. Presumably you have a cassette, not a freewheel?
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Bike spec says I hv shimano cassette. Learnt something today. Thx

http://www.parktool.com/blog/repair-help/c...ticle-section-1

Desastar, u found any Pg shop selling our bike needs yet. Think need to buy spare parts too.
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QUOTE(mscw88 @ Dec 15 2015, 01:03 PM)
Asogo folding bike any good ?  price seems pretty affordable / cheap !
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Sifu here said buy only tern or Dahon. biggrin.gif

I just paid 1k for used Dahon, it was almost zero maintainance other than some chain lubed. I can assure u the bike critical parts can still keep up quite good, all clamps, brakes, gear still excellent condition. It oso got both grips bar end scratched but it didn't cause handling ride any issue...overall I think it is a good buy. Shiok sendiri. Lol

Only thing I think could be better is the cloudy white frame, payah to keep clean lo.

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QUOTE(etigge @ Dec 15 2015, 02:03 PM)
Still no answer from anyone yet?  blush.gif  Many members here are polite. From here I hope you can deduct what the opinions are.  icon_rolleyes.gif
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hahaha......yeah !! i think i know the answer already biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(266K @ Dec 15 2015, 02:08 PM)
Sifu here said buy only tern or Dahon.  biggrin.gif
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i think i should go for Dahon SUV ......cheapest among Dahon line of bike and...reputable brand rclxms.gif
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Hello Sifus again.

From your experience and a design perspective, which brand of bicycle have much more robust hinge mechanism? Dahon or Tern.

And how likely can you find replacements for specialized wear and tear parts suck as the hinge lock and bearings?


On another note, does Tern or Dahon cover frame failure in their warranty in Malaysia?

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Hello Sifus again.

From your experience and a design perspective, which brand of bicycle have much more robust hinge mechanism? Dahon or Tern.

And how likely can you find replacements for specialized wear and tear parts suck as the hinge lock and bearings?
On another note, does Tern or Dahon cover frame failure in their warranty in Malaysia?

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i know 1 person named hakim bahar from johor already claim the whole frame.his link p8 only broken the hinge screw and not the hinge itself..

actually he was looking for the screw replacement dan tern malaysia replaced it with the new frame immidietly!
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QUOTE(etigge @ Dec 15 2015, 02:03 PM)
Still no answer from anyone yet?  blush.gif  Many members here are polite. From here I hope you can deduct what the opinions are.  icon_rolleyes.gif
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LOL! Aso-what???

Very simple, so such thing as free lunch. You pay for what you get!

Having said that, I got a quote for a Kinetix Comp front wheel for my Dahon TR from US dealer, Thor USA. RM495........ just for the one front wheel. And you can buy a whole Chinese bike for less. Which is better value hmm.gif

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This was my first folding bike many years ago. Aomei-what???

Bought it because it was cheap. When it arrived, I knew it was a monkey bike, and even monkeys would refuse to ride it. Didn't ride well, didn't fold well, didn't brake well.....just a disaster! What a waste of materials used in producing it.

I told my wife to ride to the shops one day. It was downhill most of the way. She then had to push most of the way home with all the groceries and cursed me all the way home, hahahahaha!!!! I gave it away for a kid to use. So it was cheap, but what for?? LOL






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QUOTE(desastar @ Dec 15 2015, 04:57 PM)
This was my first folding bike many years ago.  Aomei-what???

Bought it because it was cheap.  When it arrived, I knew it was a monkey bike, and even monkeys would refuse to ride it.  Didn't ride well, didn't fold well, didn't brake well.....just a disaster!  What a waste of materials used in producing it.

I told my wife to ride to the shops one day.  It was downhill most of the way.  She then had to push most of the way home with all the groceries and cursed me all the way home, hahahahaha!!!!  I gave it away for a kid to use.  So it was cheap, but what for??  LOL
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QUOTE(desastar @ Dec 15 2015, 04:30 PM)
LOL!  Aso-what??? 

Very simple, so such thing as free lunch.  You pay for what you get!

Having said that, I got a quote for a Kinetix Comp front wheel for my Dahon TR from US dealer, Thor USA.  RM495........  just for the one front wheel.  And you can buy a whole Chinese bike for less.  Which is better value  hmm.gif
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Why don't you call Rodalink Botanic Garden, Klang and ask for Sam. I think they still have one or two and they sell just the front wheel alone (that is if they still have the stock). If I was not mistaken they sell it for about RM700 for the front and back and the front, I think less than half of that. It's the same hweelset as the Dahon Speed, MU when they were still using Kinetix sourced from WTBs.
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Noob question, if I swap out the 8-speed cassette 11-32T with a 9-speed one, without chg shifter or chain, that still workable right? just that I won't get the 34T.

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Dahon SUV or JAVA Decaf TT ? need some advise fr sifu-sifu here !! Dahon tend to be heavier than Java by around 2kg...but the rest of the components are more or less the same ! price range also within my budget.....800-900 ! Pls advise .....tq so much biggrin.gif
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All quiet here??
Noob question, if I swap out the 8-speed cassette 11-32T with a 9-speed one, without chg shifter or chain, that still workable right? just that I won't get the 34T.
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No, you CANNOT do that ! shakehead.gif 8 speed shifters means 8 speed cogs/cassette. Also chain is of different width. Common sense tells you that a 8,9 and 10 speed cassette can fit into the same hub on the wheelset. So, this means the total width are the same for all 3 different cassette. So, it means the thickness of the cogs are different in the 3 types and the pull of the shifters cable are of different length. Yes, I do hear from say, " Works perfectly, it can be used" . Do you want to try that and go riding? hmm.gif

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No, you CANNOT do that !  shakehead.gif  8 speed shifters means 8 speed cogs/cassette. Also chain is of different width. Common sense tells you that a 8,9 and 10 speed cassette can fit into the same hub on the wheelset. So, this means the total width are the same for all 3 different cassette. So, it means the thickness of the cogs are different in the 3 types and the pull of the shifters cable are of different length. Yes, I do hear from say, " Works perfectly, it can be used" . Do you want to try that and go riding?  hmm.gif
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OK. Ok. Thx sifu for clear thing out. So 9 speed cassette n chain together, silly me.
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QUOTE(266K @ Dec 17 2015, 02:32 PM)
OK. Ok. Thx sifu for clear thing out. So 9 speed cassette n chain together, silly me.
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Just remember the RD is dumb and controlled by the shifter. If you want to learn, try it and see what happens. Nothing is going to break.
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Guys, we're these ever sold in Msia? I've seen the ones with 16" wheels but not with 20" wheels. Thinking of buying one....what do you think?
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Bike Fishing maybe?? ☺☺☺☺ either 20 or 16 ..u cant be wrong with older dahon ...👍

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Bike Fishing maybe??  ☺☺☺☺ either 20 or 16 ..u cant be wrong with older dahon ...👍
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They look nice but I've decided that I should only buy if I'm going to ride it.
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Let me guess....you are going to install the drive side to the left? laugh.gif and the rear is not wide enough? Looks like 120mm? Need another 10.....
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Let me guess....you are going to install the drive side to the left?  laugh.gif  and the rear is not wide enough?  Looks like 120mm? Need another 10.....
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no lah, just measuring before pump it abit around 10mm left and right of the rear bike

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now its complete!

i'm waiting for few parts before the paint job.the bike will be finish in 2016 laugh.gif
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no lah, just measuring before pump it abit around 10mm left and right of the rear bike

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i'm waiting for few parts before the paint job.the bike will be finish in 2016 laugh.gif
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Did you widened the frame by 20mm? Wow, that's a lot!

I'd be interested to know if these bikes ride as well as the modern ones. The frames are very heavy it seems.
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Did you widened the frame by 20mm? Wow, that's a lot!

I'd be interested to know if these bikes ride as well as the modern ones. The frames are very heavy it seems.
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yeah, its quite heavy this frame. will updated the feedback later after all have been completed..

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instead if waiting for my 2016 project bike complete, why dont u ask denyhazrin for his feedback on the bike?
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Bike Fishing maybe??  ☺☺☺☺ either 20 or 16 ..u cant be wrong with older dahon ...👍
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Ok denyhazrin, please tell us what it is like owning an older Dahon. Good and bad points. What it is like to ride compared to a modern Dahon?

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yesterday crossing the 2nd penang bridge,
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Hi all sifus,

I'm planning to buy Tern Verge P20. Any owners that can shared their experiences on this bike if possible? I read about Verge P20 that it can go fast onroad and a good hill climber....dunno how true it is, as for my cycling style, I may want to go for both type, but not the jungle road type la....heheh.... and next year I'll be joining the Mountain Climb Challenge icon_rolleyes.gif , and not sure if this bike can at least help me out for the climb...I knw my own engine need to train up too... tongue.gif

Currently I have a Garion bike with only 7 speeds, and dun think it can helps if I want to go for other challenging events/activities.

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Hi all sifus,

I'm planning to buy Tern Verge P20.  Any owners that can shared their experiences on this bike if possible?  I read about Verge P20 that it can go fast onroad and a good hill climber....dunno how true it is, as for my cycling style, I may want to go for both type, but not the jungle road type la....heheh.... and next year I'll be joining the Mountain Climb Challenge  icon_rolleyes.gif , and not sure if this bike can at least help me out for the climb...I knw my own engine need to train up too...  tongue.gif

Currently I have a Garion bike with only 7 speeds, and dun think it can helps if I want to go for other challenging events/activities.
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i didnt own p20 but own a p9
for what i can say the extra different price between the p9 and p20 money, u can moded easily with the same price but with better component.better get the verge n8 and customized ur own component.

for greater money save, better get dahon vigor instead (same design frame) and get a good road component moded into 20speed.i also mod my p9 to 20speed and already done penang round island and also climb to cameron highland yesterday.

the verge is a good frame and stiff for what i can say.only the component bundle with the p20 a bit pricey imho.but some people like to used their bike stock without any modification, so the p20 will suite. laugh.gif
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Sifus, after two weeks riding my preloved MU, I m about to chg the chain, jus the 8spd chain. So I shud shorten the new one by same number of links per old chain correct? Agak agak meas lenght n cut or need count one by one? I aldy bought the tool for chain changing.
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[quote=azamunekurone,Dec 21 2015, 07:08 PM]
yesterday crossing the 2nd penang bridge,
and today climbing up to cameron!

Wta is crossing 2nd bridge need to pay?
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yesterday crossing the 2nd penang bridge,
and today climbing up to cameron!

Wta is crossing 2nd bridge need to pay?
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Have you crossed the 2nd bridge? Bicycles are banned from using the bridge, as far as I know.

As for the chain, you going to ruin the extra chain length if you take out one by one. Set the RD at the smallest cog and the front chainring (you got only one chainring). Just adjust the length where the chain doesn't touch the RD cage. As long as possible but not touching the RD cage when it is at the smallest cog.
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QUOTE(etigge @ Dec 22 2015, 02:32 PM)
Have you crossed the 2nd bridge? Bicycles are banned from using the bridge, as far as I know.

As for the chain, you going to ruin the extra chain length if you take out one by one. Set the RD at the smallest cog and the front chainring (you got only one chainring). Just adjust the length where the chain doesn't touch the RD cage. As long as possible but not touching the RD cage when it is at the smallest cog.
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QUOTE(etigge @ Dec 22 2015, 02:32 PM)
Have you crossed the 2nd bridge? Bicycles are banned from using the bridge, as far as I know.

for special occation, can. i participate in JKSB2015 charity ride. if im not mistaken bicycle will be fine rm300
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This Shimano tools box RM200 oni, genuine?
I googled, it looks different, probably cheap china made one.

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This Shimano tools box RM200 oni, genuine?
I googled, it looks different, probably cheap china made one.
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This Shimano tools box RM200 oni, genuine?
I googled, it looks different, probably cheap china made one.
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Nolarrr! yawn.gif Same chinese made. Same as Bikehand and many other cheapo brands. Can be used but not good. If you want something good and lasting, off course Parktools but velly, velly expensive. Go for the Icetools, just maybe RM50 to RM70 extra but much better quality. icon_rolleyes.gif
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https://litepro.world.taobao.com/

Sifu sekalian, anyone bought fr this taobao link b4?
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https://litepro.world.taobao.com/

Sifu sekalian, anyone bought fr this taobao link b4?
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Just spent RM210 for some items, hope barang2 boleh sampai dah. blush.gif

Buy direct, no need agent anymore... tongue.gif
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Just spent RM210 for some items, hope barang2 boleh sampai dah. blush.gif

Buy direct, no need agent anymore... tongue.gif
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with agent, better chance of "protection" frm kastam... biggrin.gif
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just recently i started cycling for 1 hour at around 13km distance, my butt pain in the final stretch, mohon give advise why ah, saddle problem?

Bike Spec, Dahon Speed P8, I am 190cm, do i need to change the stock saddle?


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QUOTE(Aeon89 @ Dec 26 2015, 09:14 PM)
just recently i started cycling for 1 hour at around 13km distance, my butt pain in the final stretch, mohon give advise why ah, saddle problem?

Bike Spec, Dahon Speed P8, I am 190cm, do i need to change the stock saddle?
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And is there cycling group in Penang? wanna join for the ride, newbie here
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try get used to it.if cant find a cycling paded pants.try avoid changing saddle at least for 6 month.

im the one who upgrade saddle at 1st place and got few type and brand from the cheapest to the expensive one.every butts are different, and so are saddle.to tell you the truth, at the end,.. i had to get used to it.now i can pedal below 40km without cycling paded pants with any saddle laugh.gif
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QUOTE(azamunekurone @ Dec 27 2015, 02:04 AM)
try get used to it.if cant find a cycling paded pants.try avoid changing saddle at least for 6 month.

im the one who upgrade saddle at 1st place and got few type and brand from the cheapest to the expensive one.every butts are different, and so are saddle.to tell you the truth, at the end,.. i had to get used to it.now i can pedal below 40km without cycling paded pants with any saddle laugh.gif
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still bloody sore cry.gif cry.gif

you cycle whereabout? KL or Penang or anywhere , wanna find a group
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QUOTE(Aeon89 @ Dec 26 2015, 09:14 PM)
just recently i started cycling for 1 hour at around 13km distance, my butt pain in the final stretch, mohon give advise why ah, saddle problem?

Bike Spec, Dahon Speed P8, I am 190cm, do i need to change the stock saddle?
My bicycle as attached
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And is there cycling group in Penang? wanna join for the ride, newbie here
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https://www.facebook.com/groups/1531214297133708/

Check the FB page above and then join in and message Winson Gan. Ask him to inform you if there are rides around Balik Pulau fishing villages which will be suitable for you now. The terrain is flat and scenic. Later you can join them for other harder rides. If there's anything just mention Wong recommended. Their rides can be fun but don't get pressured by some rich members (usual lah in every group laugh.gif ).
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QUOTE(sang siput @ Dec 21 2015, 09:22 PM)
Hi all sifus,

I'm planning to buy Tern Verge P20.  Any owners that can shared their experiences on this bike if possible?  I read about Verge P20 that it can go fast onroad and a good hill climber....dunno how true it is, as for my cycling style, I may want to go for both type, but not the jungle road type la....heheh.... and next year I'll be joining the Mountain Climb Challenge  icon_rolleyes.gif , and not sure if this bike can at least help me out for the climb...I knw my own engine need to train up too...  tongue.gif

Currently I have a Garion bike with only 7 speeds, and dun think it can helps if I want to go for other challenging events/activities.
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I'm noob in bike and I got a second hand P20. It is my second bike after a short while with the Link D8. With the tyre and more gears, it ride much more lighter (to pedal) and climb easier than the D8. Not that much faster tho.
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ey b0ss!

What taillight would you recommend for a budget of Rm70 and below?

Something that you can see under daylight and can handle a bashing would be nice.

[Also where on earth can you find replacement brackets for them?]
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Hello and Happy Holiday friends,

WTA, anybody have experience buying from http://bikelah.com/ ?

ok or not? looking to buy head light. Can recommend me decent headlight under rm100? is cateye volt 100 enough? I just sometimes cycle into dusk/night time when coming back from office.

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Ok, I don't know how you guys do it. I hired a bike to cycle around in Georgetown this morning at 10am and it soooo hot. I was completely drenched in just an hour, and the traffic was so bad. Wanted to cycle by the ocean but ran out of time. I think I'll bring my own bike next time.
Dropped by Chin Aik. Nice shop but no parts for upgrades?
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QUOTE(o.d @ Dec 29 2015, 04:58 PM)
Hello and Happy Holiday friends,

WTA, anybody have experience buying from http://bikelah.com/ ?

ok or not? looking to buy head light. Can recommend me decent headlight under rm100? is cateye volt 100 enough? I just sometimes cycle into dusk/night time when coming back from office.

Thanks.
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u had bag around ur bike?if u got try to find t3 light usb that use a powerbank for its power.price around rm45-55 (without powerbank of coz) if im not mistaken and its really bright..

im using that one for now and really bang for money.just my 2 cents laugh.gif
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QUOTE(desastar @ Dec 29 2015, 06:31 PM)
Ok, I don't know how you guys do it. I hired a bike to cycle around in Georgetown this morning at 10am and it soooo hot. I was completely drenched in just an hour, and the traffic was so bad. Wanted to cycle by the ocean but ran out of time. I think I'll bring my own bike next time.
Dropped by Chin Aik. Nice shop but no parts for upgrades?
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It is summer time ala Penang Island... biggrin.gif

still remember how I cycled from Tg Tokong to Greenland everyday during school year, not so many car those days. blush.gif
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Where is the recommended place to buy folding bike in KL area?
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The top 3 are USJ Cycles, then My Bike Shop in Bandar Utama 4 and 3rd, Kimbell Jaya in Cheras Perdana. My suggestion, first go USJ Cycles and check out the prices, then check out My Bike Shop but don't commit first. Then finally visit Kimbell Jaya and then ask for the best price and freebies and then Voila! Make your choice from the 3 shops. rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(desastar @ Dec 29 2015, 06:31 PM)
Ok, I don't know how you guys do it. I hired a bike to cycle around in Georgetown this morning at 10am and it soooo hot. I was completely drenched in just an hour, and the traffic was so bad. Wanted to cycle by the ocean but ran out of time. I think I'll bring my own bike next time.
Dropped by Chin Aik. Nice shop but no parts for upgrades?
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I don't know bout Penang but these 3 days in KL were hotter than usual during the day, like hot hot heaty. tongue.gif for me, cycle to office is in early morning, still sweating though and when go back home is already evening, so I get to avoid the sun. Traffic wise...hmmm sad but true. no other way round I guess.

QUOTE(azamunekurone @ Dec 29 2015, 06:34 PM)
u had bag around ur bike?if u got try to find t3 light usb that use a powerbank for its power.price around rm45-55 (without powerbank of coz) if im not mistaken and its really bright..

im using that one for now and really bang for money.just my 2 cents laugh.gif
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Azam, I don't have bag around my bike, very minimal, do we have to store the powerbank on the bike while using? seems a bit mafan. or is it rechargeable via powerbank? I'll google and see, thanks ya.


generally, how many lumen is recommended for a bike light to cycle at night?

oh and anybody have experience buy from http://bikelah.com/ ? review please

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Kimbell Jaya....unbeatable price ! rclxms.gif

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QUOTE(o.d @ Dec 30 2015, 10:31 AM)
I don't know bout Penang but these 3 days in KL were hotter than usual during the day, like hot hot heaty.  tongue.gif for me, cycle to office is in early morning, still sweating though and when go back home is already evening, so I get to avoid the sun. Traffic wise...hmmm sad but true. no other way round I guess.
Cycling on a busy road is stressful esp when you are fighting for space with buses, cars and motorcycles. Georgetown is an old place and there will never be enough room for a bike lane. Some streets have so many tourists walking around that they should really close them off to traffic. Dangerous mix.

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QUOTE(desastar @ Dec 31 2015, 06:08 AM)
Cycling on a busy road is stressful esp when you are fighting for space with buses, cars and motorcycles. Georgetown is an old place and there will never be enough room for a bike lane. Some streets have so many tourists walking around that they should really close them off to traffic. Dangerous mix.
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yeah couldn't agree more with you. Unfortunately Malaysia still have a very long way to go to adopt cycling as a lifestyle to make it worth it for the country to change the infrastructure for cyclist. There's community though in KL that work on mapping bicycle routes so you can choose the best route. Like when I first tried cycling to komuter to office, I use the car road as I don't know any other way, and like you said, very stressful and tiring because cars and even motorcycle unwilling to share the road. I did couple of times and just dread it, so no motivation to continue. Then I share this reason why I didn't do it to the community and one of the guys who happen to be know the area where I need to cycle to get to office send me alternative route google map going through jalan dalam kampung, housing areas etc. I tried that and enjoy it, so much less stress and relax2 cycle to office, no sweat. now I try to cycle once a week but will try to do more, perhaps everyday since the lrt & komuter fares are now also quite expensive.

Here is the FB page for the mapping community in KL, not sure if somebody has start for Penang.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/CyclingKualaLumpur/?fref=ts

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QUOTE(desastar @ Dec 31 2015, 06:08 AM)
Cycling on a busy road is stressful esp when you are fighting for space with buses, cars and motorcycles. Georgetown is an old place and there will never be enough room for a bike lane. Some streets have so many tourists walking around that they should really close them off to traffic. Dangerous mix.
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Sadly that's true. rclxub.gif

The local government can't even provide proper FIVE FOOT WAYS, let alone cycling lanes. When I took up mountain biking again, many folding bikers were telling me that's dangerous and extreme. In actual, there are many branches in mountain biking as well. I took the least extreme ones and that's cross country which usually try as much to ride on laterites, sandy trails or fire trails or even within plantation trails and off and on on tarmacs. This is actually much much safer than riding on our roads. In mountain biking if you fall, off course you will be hurt but usually not fatal, maybe bruises, that is off course you don't go try 4 or 5 foot jumps. In my case , it is just riding under more shady trees rather than hot tarmacs. Also no lorries or vehicles to look out for.

I will be moving to Taiping in the next few months and maybe in Taiping I will get another folding bike and will ride around the villages around there and also join the Penang cycling community for their outskirts ride. Imagine, my place is just 10 kilometers from Kuala Sepetang on the desolate road. I can have my breakfast in Sepetang daily, hahahaa. laugh.gif Can't wait for the day.
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QUOTE(etigge @ Dec 31 2015, 11:27 AM)
Sadly that's true.  rclxub.gif

The local government can't even provide proper FIVE FOOT WAYS, let alone cycling lanes. When I took up mountain biking again, many folding bikers were telling me that's dangerous and extreme. In actual, there are many branches in mountain biking as well. I took the least extreme ones and that's cross country which usually try as much to ride on laterites, sandy trails or fire trails or even within plantation trails and off and on on tarmacs. This is actually much much safer than riding on our roads. In mountain biking if you fall, off course you will be hurt but usually not fatal, maybe bruises, that is off course you don't go try 4 or 5 foot jumps. In my case , it is just riding under more shady trees rather than hot tarmacs. Also no lorries or vehicles to look out for.

I will be moving to Taiping in the next few months and maybe in Taiping I will get another folding bike and will ride around the villages around there and also join the Penang cycling community for their outskirts ride. Imagine, my place is just 10 kilometers from Kuala Sepetang on the desolate road. I can have my breakfast in Sepetang daily, hahahaa.  laugh.gif Can't wait for the day.
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They shud learn frm Sabah btw. Kota Kinabalu mostly have dedicated lanes for bicycle along the busy road,they even build lanes along the coastline at kk town.
Taiping where ? biggrin.gif Kuala sepetang road quite dangerous if dark. Both side palm oil trees. sweat.gif
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They shud learn frm Sabah btw. Kota Kinabalu mostly have dedicated lanes for bicycle along the busy road,they even build lanes along the coastline at kk town.
Taiping where ? biggrin.gif Kuala sepetang road quite dangerous if dark. Both side palm oil trees.  sweat.gif
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Not advisible to ride at night lorrr. shakehead.gif At night can ride in town. Taiping near Aulong.
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Hey I bought a pair of Schwalbe Marathon Supreme from Rodalink. RM50 each, good price I thought?

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Hey I bought a pair of Schwalbe Marathon Supreme from Rodalink. RM50 each, good price I thought?
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That's cheap bro. Usually they are sold for RM98 each. thumbup.gif Wire beads or kevlar beads?

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That's cheap bro. Usually they are sold for RM98 each.  thumbup.gif Wire beads or kevlar beads?
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I'm noob in bike and I got a second hand P20. It is my second bike after a short while with the Link D8. With the tyre and more gears, it ride much more lighter (to pedal) and climb easier than the D8. Not that much faster tho.
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Mmm.... one of the seller intro me to the new Link D16 (2015 version) which claims to be "The King of Hills" ...lol.... pricing wise almost half of Verge P20 price.  I'm thinking back, maybe true to get this D16 then only if needed then upgrade the components slowly.
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Finally bought Link D16. Test ride at Taman Botanic Shah Alam.... quite smooth and fast. Less suffering when climb hill. Between, saw from Tern website, is it true that Tern extending to 10 years warranty for the bicycles?
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Very nice  nod.gif , may I know if those wheels are strong enuf, I mean will it easily bend, compare to the regular 20/28 one?
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I prefer regular well maintained wheelset but good bearings are the most important to me.
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Very nice  nod.gif , may I know if those wheels are strong enuf, I mean will it easily bend, compare to the regular 20/28 one?
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If you like the design, there's one set for sale for RM700 in BBS. Taken out from the Dahon MU SLX. He didn't mention it but I can recognise the white rims. It's cheap if you ask me as the Kinetic Pro is about 2K now and the Litepro similar version slightly above 1K. There's also a set of Machete wheelset in BBS which is quite popular in Singapore.

The rims are made stronger for the lesser spokes but the lesser spokes makes it very hard to true back again if it is knocked hard! icon_rolleyes.gif
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Think I ll pass, white is not suitable for bike especially one use it on daily basis like my cloudy white MU sweat.gif
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If you like the design, there's one set for sale for RM700 in BBS. Taken out from the Dahon MU SLX. He didn't mention it but I can recognise the white rims. It's cheap if you ask me as the Kinetic Pro is about 2K now and the Litepro similar version slightly above 1K. There's also a set of Machete wheelset in BBS which is quite popular in Singapore.

The rims are made stronger for the lesser spokes but the lesser spokes makes it very hard to true back again if it is knocked hard!  icon_rolleyes.gif
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Sold maybe? Can't see it?
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Sold maybe? Can't see it?
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Have a question for Wheels sifu....
I came across a set of Kinetix Comp wheelset, but unlike the one on my SpeedTR, these are black with WTB label on the rim. The are the same as the Speed P8. Why do they call it Kinetix Comp??
Anyway it was cheap so I bought it. Comes with Schwalbe Big Apple tyres which is a bonus!
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Have a question for Wheels sifu....
I came across a set of Kinetix Comp wheelset, but unlike the one on my SpeedTR, these are black with WTB label on the rim. The are the same as the Speed P8. Why do they call it Kinetix Comp??
Anyway it was cheap so I bought it. Comes with Schwalbe Big Apple tyres which is a bonus!
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Those mentioned are better rims than the present Kinetixes. Dahon contracted Kinetix to supply their double walled wheelsets and in turn Kinetix was made by WTBs. Firstly in USA then moved to Taiwan. Later Kinetix changed their OEM supplier to China's manufacturers and hence WTBs do not make Kinetix anymore. The squarish Kinetix Comp are better quality than the present ones shodded in Dahons or Terns which if I am not mistaken made by Vuelta. When Dahon and Tern were haggling over Kinetix as supplier, Dahon uses wheelsets that were made in China and those were Dahon's lousy days. The Verge uses Kinetix Pro the last time.

Don't worry, you made a good deal! thumbup.gif
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Those mentioned are better rims than the present Kinetixes. Dahon contracted Kinetix to supply their double walled wheelsets and in turn Kinetix was made by WTBs. Firstly in USA then moved to Taiwan. Later Kinetix changed their OEM supplier to China's manufacturers and hence WTBs do not make Kinetix anymore. The squarish Kinetix Comp are better quality than the present ones shodded in Dahons or Terns which if I am not mistaken made by Vuelta. When Dahon and Tern were haggling over Kinetix as supplier, Dahon uses wheelsets that were made in China and those were Dahon's lousy days. The Verge uses Kinetix Pro the last time.

Don't worry, you made a good deal!  thumbup.gif
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Thank you sifu. Don't know the history so that was very helpful. I couldn't resist not buying, only rm250 for the set including tyres! From memory, the set I bought from Taobao before was US100, just the wheels.
I think I have bought enough parts to fill my suitcase, haha!
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Thank you sifu. Don't know the history so that was very helpful. I couldn't resist not buying, only rm250 for the set including tyres! From memory, the set I bought from Taobao before was US100, just the wheels.
I think I have bought enough parts to fill my suitcase, haha!
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which shop normally u guys hunting for a good wheelset? planning to replaced my 2 years old Vigor P9 wheels... budget below 1k? is it possible.. ?

Also i am looking for aftermarket non adjustable headpost for vigor which can fold outside (now fold inside) with measurement around 30cm height?

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which shop normally u guys hunting for a good wheelset? planning to replaced my 2 years old Vigor P9 wheels... budget below 1k? is it possible.. ?

Also i am  looking for aftermarket non adjustable headpost for vigor which can fold outside (now fold inside) with measurement around 30cm height?

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Kimbell Jaya has stock of the wheelsets, even Lite pros. As for the non adjustable handlepost, there's a posting by cclems in BBS. He is selling his Tern Link P9 handle post. Don't know if it is sold or not. Kimbell Jaya also has stock of a black Lite pro handle post but not sure if it folds inside or outside. Why fold outside when inside is better? rclxub.gif I also have one new adjustable original Dahon tapi 'tak laku'. biggrin.gif

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Mana lu beli? gua pun mau such gud deal.. tongue.gif
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Sifu Ettige told me to contact Rodalink when I was looking for a non Dynamo front wheel. Spoke to Sam at Botanic but he didn't have any. I later spoke to See Chun and he mentioned this wheelset available on promotion, so I grabbed it. They also have a front Kinetix Comp Dynamo wheel which is the exact wheel I have, so I bought it also as a spare 😁
Johnny at MBS at Bandar Utama has Kinetix Pros, nice but I didn't want to spend that much!
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Kimbell Jaya has stock of the wheelsets, even Lite pros. As for the non adjustable handlepost, there's a posting by cclems in BBS. He is selling his Tern Link P9 handle post. Don't know if it is sold or not. Kimbell Jaya also has stock of a black Lite pro handle post but not sure if it folds inside or outside. Why fold outside when inside is better?  rclxub.gif  I also have one new adjustable original Dahon tapi 'tak laku'.  biggrin.gif
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Hi En Etigge

thank you for the tips last time on upgrading my foldie thumbup.gif

the reason i needed the outside fold handle post was due to my straight bar replaced with bullhorn .. so i can't fold the bike when loading into the car..

as for the wheelset, will drop by Kimbell Jaya for a look.. need to freshen up the foldie look after 2 years serving me


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Hi En Etigge

thank you for the tips last time on upgrading my foldie  thumbup.gif

the reason i needed the outside fold handle post was due to my straight bar replaced with bullhorn .. so i can't fold the bike when loading into the car..

as for the wheelset, will drop by Kimbell Jaya for a look..  need to freshen up the foldie look after 2 years serving me
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Here's another good deal. Kookkeongfong is changing is wheelset again and my guess is this is his wheelset. He's selling it cheap though, worth it. My guess is COD around Wangsa Maju area. If you or anyone interested can check this FB page.

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=102...&type=3&theater
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Here's another good deal. Kookkeongfong is changing is wheelset again and my guess is this is his wheelset. He's selling it cheap though, worth it. My guess is COD around Wangsa Maju area. If you or anyone interested can check this FB page.

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=102...&type=3&theater
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i had used this type of wheelset 406 sized on my verge p9 before. what i can say its a good wheelset. bladed spoke, 24mm profile and tough enough for malaysia road! its cheap coz unpopular brand.

some say this is oem version of spinner wheelset.
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Here's another great deal! thumbup.gif Slightly expensive but very rare, very rare. Kinetix Pro wheelsets from Dahon Verge and this wheelset uses the famed American Classic hubs. thumbup.gif If the brake linings are still good, it should be a good ride.

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=101...&type=3&theater

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QUOTE(etigge @ Jan 9 2016, 10:52 PM)
Here's another great deal!  thumbup.gif  Slightly expensive but very rare, very rare. Kinetix Pro wheelsets from Dahon Verge and this wheelset uses the famed American Classic hubs.  thumbup.gif  If the brake linings are still good, it should be a good ride.

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=101...&type=3&theater

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can anyone recommend me an affordable bike to check into airport flights ? I am required to work in Malaysia and travel frequently, wanna bring a portable bike around don't wanna check in with my Dahon Speed P8
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QUOTE(etigge @ Jan 9 2016, 10:52 PM)
Here's another great deal!  thumbup.gif  Slightly expensive but very rare, very rare. Kinetix Pro wheelsets from Dahon Verge and this wheelset uses the famed American Classic hubs.  thumbup.gif  If the brake linings are still good, it should be a good ride.

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=101...&type=3&theater

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Put RM900 wheels on a RM1000 bike, my wife gonna kill me biggrin.gif

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why the kinetic rim spoke in the picture without the spoke nipple?

is this normal?
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The spoke fastener is within the rims. There's a special tool to adjust the tension but a 4mm or 5mm (can't remember rclxub.gif ) square socket can do the job as well.
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Put RM900 wheels on a RM1000 bike, my wife gonna kill me  biggrin.gif
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Just tell boss ...only 300 lor...
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can anyone recommend me an affordable bike to check into airport flights ? I am required to work in Malaysia and travel frequently, wanna bring a portable bike around don't wanna check in with my Dahon Speed P8
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my raleigh ugo survived few check ins with few bruises on the bag while the bike inside is unharmed biggrin.gif
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how much it cost and how heavy it is?
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subb 700. below 14kg i would say
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could get that as my substitute carry on / check in bike i guess . any other similar range suggestion?
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mau tanya...

Dahon Speed D8 vs Dahon Vigor D9?

Tern punya over budget.... or any of Tern that fall in same cat with the above in term of $$$ and quality?

or can plz recom me any other folding bike.

thank you!
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Hi sifus,

New some insight on the handle tightness of my new Dahon. It seems turning the handles seems stiffer and tight feeling, especially beyond 45degree angle. Didnt notice this with my other mtb or foldies.

Is it a characteristic of Dahon..being set up that way..Or some oiling or screw loosening is needed.
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Sifu, between Sora RD3500 9 spd, Claris 8-9 spd & Alivio RD-M410, 7-8spd, which one is a better replacement for MU Neos? if I just want to chg the RD icon_question.gif

Oso when buying RD hangar, do we need to specifically states it is for foldie?

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Sifus what will u recommend brand n model of foldies for newbie. Something practical n not too expensive. Thx
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Hi sifus,

New some insight on the handle tightness of my new Dahon. It seems turning the handles seems stiffer and tight feeling, especially beyond 45degree angle. Didnt notice this with my other mtb or foldies.

Is it a characteristic of Dahon..being set up that way..Or some oiling or screw loosening is needed.
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Headset may be over tightened or need servicing or replacing. Try loosening a little and if that solves the problem without any looseness or rocking, happy days!
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QUOTE(266K @ Jan 14 2016, 10:15 AM)
Sifu, between Sora RD3500 9 spd, Claris 8-9 spd & Alivio RD-M410, 7-8spd, which one is a better replacement for MU Neos? if I just want to chg the RD icon_question.gif

Oso when buying RD hangar, do we need to specifically states it is for foldie?
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You'll have to find one with the correct pull rate as your shifter. I'm guessing the Sora would work.

RD hanger would be specific to your bike. They come with all shapes and sizes. Why do you need to replace it? Damaged?
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A forummer bought a 16 inch rims from me and has find difficulty in sourcing the 20/20 holed hubs for the rims. It's not available in Malaysia actually but it can be bought online from Taobao, China. I have no idea with regards to the said forummer's front fork width as there are 2 different widths. One as used by Dahons and Terns are 74mm and the other the usual 100mm (usually those with disc brakes). The 74mm offers more rigidity and stronger as the spokes are not too angled from the rims. That's why Dahons and Terns choose that width, probably.

There's another option , though. You can get the front hubs (20 holes) from here if you are using 74mm.

http://bicyclebuysell.com/item/311012/kene...bearing-freepos

and if you are using 100mm forks, you can get the adapters here.

http://bicyclebuysell.com/item/333141/lite...pter-dahon-tern

As for the rear, you can go for either a 24 hole or a 32 hole ones and skip a few holes while lacing. The distance is so small, I don't think it will affect the truing of the rims and more so because the rims are only 16 inch diameter. So, use with confidence. The only drawback is.................most LBS are not interested to do it as there might be a few spokes modifications. You might need to adjust the length of the spokes.

I would suggest though that you take this set. It is the 24 for the rear and the 20 for the front. This eliminates a lot of problems.
http://bicyclebuysell.com/item/204486/nova...24-free-pos-w-m

And if you want to use the regular , more easier and off course cheaper as it is common 32 holes for the front and rear, I have drawn the spokes lacing patterns. The red dots on the smaller circle are the SKIPPED holes. Both the 24 and 32 holes are fine if you look at the lacing of the spokes. Shouldn't be a problem. Good luck ! thumbup.gif

This is the 24 holes lacing.

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and.............this is the 32 holes lacing.

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If you have contacted me earlier, I could have done it for you but I am now in Taiping, so it's a bit hard. If you want to mod the spokes yourself like I do, get this ; The size of the spoke nipples are a bit special though. Most nut and bolts store stocks only 2,3,4,5,6mm etc but not 2.5mm which is the size for the spokes. I got it from Central Nuts and Bolts in Jalan San Peng, K.Lumpur. You get longer spokes, for mountain bikes, these are the easiest to get anyway and then measure and cut to length needed and tread it.

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You'll have to find one with the correct pull rate as your shifter.  I'm guessing the Sora would work.

RD hanger would be specific to your bike.  They come with all shapes and sizes.  Why do you need to replace it? Damaged?
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QUOTE(266K @ Jan 14 2016, 10:15 AM)
Sifu, between Sora RD3500 9 spd, Claris 8-9 spd & Alivio RD-M410, 7-8spd, which one is a better replacement for MU Neos? if I just want to chg the RD icon_question.gif

Oso when buying RD hangar, do we need to specifically states it is for foldie?
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bring ur old rd hanger and try. the best bring ur bike to double comfirm..

as for rd
any rd will do. but if u ask me, i will go for tiagra as most of my friends who love touring would recomend the same.

i had used claris, sora, tiagra, 105 and ultegra and all are good to go depends on how many speed u want!

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Sifus what will u recommend brand n model of foldies for newbie. Something practical n not too expensive. Thx
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QUOTE(KLlee @ Jan 14 2016, 01:08 PM)
New to foldie. Just got myself a Java pro 451. Seems quite alright to ride for me. smile.gif Will need more advice from all sifus here...
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There is no RD hanger on my MU, I assume I can't use the same hole for the Neos
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It should be item A-11 from this page. The item is readily available in Kimbell Jaya though.

http://bicyclebuysell.com/item/255379/rear...hanger-page-1-5

You can ask the seller if it is for Dahon , BTW.

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Headset may be over tightened or need servicing or replacing.  Try loosening a little and if that solves the problem without any looseness or rocking, happy days!
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Thx Desa,

Any source to point me to on how to loosened the headset? Is it in the manuals?

Damn the Dahons, nice as they are...they seem to give a lot of small assembly issues as well right out of the box...Mine came the back fenders giving squeaking sound when go over uneven tarmac.
Have to DIY to troubleshoot all these small irritating problems..and now this..Tight handle..What the..

Is noisy fenders a common issues?
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Thx Desa,

Any source to point me to on how to loosened the headset? Is it in the manuals?

Damn the Dahons, nice as they are...they seem to give a lot of small assembly issues as well right out of the box...Mine came the back fenders giving squeaking sound when go over uneven tarmac.
Have to DIY to troubleshoot all these small irritating problems..and now this..Tight handle..What the..

Is noisy fenders a common issues?
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sold off my dahon cause of many squeaking sound. mine is the folding part got sound. adjusted many time still same.
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QUOTE(tcb2010 @ Jan 14 2016, 04:51 PM)
Thx Desa,

Any source to point me to on how to loosened the headset? Is it in the manuals?

Damn the Dahons, nice as they are...they seem to give a lot of small assembly issues as well right out of the box...Mine came the back fenders giving squeaking sound when go over uneven tarmac.
Have to DIY to troubleshoot all these small irritating problems..and now this..Tight handle..What the..

Is noisy fenders a common issues?
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You know? I bought a 70K Peugeot and it still creaks here and there. What did you expect from a 2K BICYCLE? Folding one too! shocking.gif

It's just a matter of tightening some allen nuts and screws. If you can't handle that, I suggest you send it back to the shop to do it. Unless it is USJ Cycles, most will oblige. If you buy a right bike, a small portable bike tool can handle most tweaks. For me, I take off the whole mud guards, totally no squeak at all. I can't fathom how fenders can squeak? I mean there only 4 fasteners for each front and back. rclxub.gif One main one fastens the fenders to the main body , one is at the fork and the other rear one is to the seat stays at the rear. Others are belongs to the wire contraption for the fenders.

As for the headset, you have to be sure it is the headset is too tight! Fold down the handle post and you will see a big hex nut inside. It is 12mm, if I am not mistaken. This tightens the headset and this is the one that holds the fork so it won't fall off the frame! At the neck of the handle post, you will see a 6mm allen nut and this grips the handle post to the fork's steerer's tube.

" LOOSEN THE 6MM A LITTLE AND THE HANDLE CAN TURN LEFT AND RIGHT. THEN USE THE 12MM HEX KEY AND LOOSEN THE BIG ALLEN NUT INSIDE THE HANDLE POST. JUST A LITTLE AND TURN THE HANDLEPOST AND SEE IF IT TURNS FREELY TO YOUR SATISFACTION. IF IT DOES, CHECK TO SEE IF IT HAS TOO MUCH CLEARANCE AS IF IT DOES, THE WHOLE HANDLEPOST IS LOOSE. ADJUST UNITL THE VERY LEAST SO THAT THE HANDLEPOST IS TIGHT AND DOES NOT HAVE ANY FREE PLAY BUT TURNS FREELY. ONCE OK, ADJUST BACK THE HANDLE BAR SO IT IS STRAIGHT AND TIGHTEN BACK THE 6MM ALLEN NUT. " voila! rclxms.gif

If this doesn't help, that means the headset bearings are not well.
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QUOTE(etigge @ Jan 14 2016, 05:37 PM)
You know? I bought a 70K Peugeot and it still creaks here and there. What did you expect from a 2K BICYCLE?  Folding one too!  shocking.gif

It's just a matter of tightening some allen nuts and screws. If you can't handle that, I suggest you send it back to the shop to do it. Unless it is USJ Cycles, most will oblige. If you buy a right bike, a small portable bike tool can handle most tweaks. For me, I take off the whole mud guards, totally no squeak at all. I can't fathom how fenders can squeak? I mean there only 4 fasteners for each front and back.  rclxub.gif One main one fastens the fenders to the main body , one is at the fork and the other rear one is to the seat stays at the rear. Others are belongs to the wire contraption for the fenders.

As for the headset, you have to be sure it is the headset is too tight! Fold down the handle post and you will see a big hex nut inside. It is 12mm, if I am not mistaken. This tightens the headset and this is the one that holds the fork so it won't fall off the frame! At the neck of the handle post, you will see a 6mm allen nut and this grips the handle post to the fork's steerer's tube.

" LOOSEN THE 6MM A LITTLE AND THE HANDLE CAN TURN LEFT AND RIGHT. THEN USE THE 12MM HEX KEY AND LOOSEN THE BIG ALLEN NUT INSIDE THE HANDLE POST. JUST A LITTLE AND TURN THE HANDLEPOST AND SEE IF IT TURNS FREELY TO YOUR SATISFACTION. IF IT DOES, CHECK TO SEE IF IT HAS TOO MUCH CLEARANCE AS IF IT DOES, THE WHOLE HANDLEPOST IS LOOSE. ADJUST UNITL THE VERY LEAST SO THAT THE HANDLEPOST IS TIGHT AND DOES NOT HAVE ANY FREE PLAY BUT TURNS FREELY. ONCE OK, ADJUST BACK THE HANDLE BAR SO IT IS STRAIGHT AND TIGHTEN BACK THE 6MM ALLEN NUT. " voila!  rclxms.gif

If this doesn't help, that means the headset bearings are not well.
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Thx Etigge for the in depth explanation.

I was having too much expectations initially..thus was a bit letdown from QC out of the box.
Mine came with back fender stuck on the back tires , have to manual twist the wire to push it back up, to free the wheels...can u believe it!!

Back fender squeaking loud ( the part where the fender is clamp by the 4 metal holder), and if u gently tap it and push the fender downwards...its will squeak.. and loud too...cant believe eh, so do i...Manage to adjust the fender by pushing the clamp for downward pressure, put a bit of oil..on the contact surface..to quiet it down. Still got the video if ur interested. I can only manage this due to my lack of knowledge on how to.

So, long story short..squeaks are normal on Dahon, is it?

Well..I will seriously look at your Handlepost guide, need time to digest, as it looks too technical to me on this one. Most likely i wouldn't dare to touch it.
Lastly, do Dahon handles set up to be tighter? Compared to other foldies. It could be this and im comparing to a wrong standard.


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QUOTE(tcb2010 @ Jan 14 2016, 06:03 PM)
Thx Etigge for the in depth explanation.

I was having too much expectations initially..thus was a bit letdown from QC out of the box.
Mine came with back fender stuck on the back tires , have to manual twist the wire to push it back up, to free the wheels...can u believe it!!

Back fender squeaking loud ( the part where the fender is clamp by the 4 metal holder), and if u gently tap it and push the fender downwards...its will squeak.. and loud too...cant believe eh, so do i...Manage to adjust the fender by pushing the clamp for downward pressure, put a bit of oil..on the contact surface..to quiet it down. Still got the video if ur interested. I can only manage this due to my lack of knowledge on how to.

So, long story short..squeaks are normal on Dahon, is it?

Well..I will seriously look at your Handlepost guide, need time to digest, as it looks too technical to me on this one. Most likely i wouldn't dare to touch it.
Lastly, do Dahon handles set up to be tighter? Compared to other foldies. It could be this and im comparing to a wrong standard.
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Sifu etigge,

Tried to assess the situation further, and its a tighter to the right hand side. When i turn the handle to the right...its gets stiffer along the way, and basically wont go beyond 90 degrees, unless applied a bit more force..
Over tightened headpost bearing?

Mine is a 2015 vitesse d8, is the headpost allen key size 12mm.?
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QUOTE(tcb2010 @ Jan 14 2016, 06:03 PM)
Thx Etigge for the in depth explanation.

I was having too much expectations initially..thus was a bit letdown from QC out of the box.
Mine came with back fender stuck on the back tires , have to manual twist the wire to push it back up, to free the wheels...can u believe it!!

Back fender squeaking loud ( the part where the fender is clamp by the 4 metal holder), and if u gently tap it and push the fender downwards...its will squeak.. and loud too...cant believe eh, so do i...Manage to adjust the fender by pushing the clamp for downward pressure, put a bit of oil..on the contact surface..to quiet it down. Still got the video if ur interested. I can only manage this due to my lack of knowledge on how to.

So, long story short..squeaks are normal on Dahon, is it?

Well..I will seriously look at your Handlepost guide, need time to digest, as it looks too technical to me on this one. Most likely i wouldn't dare to touch it.
Lastly, do Dahon handles set up to be tighter? Compared to other foldies. It could be this and im comparing to a wrong standard.
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Sifu etigge,

Tried to assess the situation further, and its a tighter to the right hand side. When i turn the handle to the right...its gets stiffer along the way, and basically wont go beyond 90 degrees, unless applied a bit more force..
Over tightened headpost bearing?

Mine is a 2015 vitesse d8, is the headpost allen key size 12mm.?
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Sifu etigge,

Tried to assess the situation further, and its a tighter to the right hand side. When i turn the handle to the right...its gets stiffer along the way, and basically wont go beyond 90 degrees, unless applied a bit more force..
Over tightened headpost bearing?

Mine is a 2015 vitesse d8,  is the headpost allen key size 12mm.?
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Hahaha! You have to get used to which direction you are turning the screws or nut. Clockwise is tightening and anti clockwise is loosening. This doesn't apply to the bottom brackets and pedals though, the rest are !

Here's the picture of the mentioned nut. so, No 1....... loosen the 6mm screw first
No 2...... turn the 12mm nut anti clockwise a little, maybe 10 20 degrees will loosen the headset or maybe even less!

Check that the handlepost HAS NO FREEPLAY, means the handle can turn freely only and NO OTHER MOVEMENTS !! No rocking front and back especially. When you brake the front wheels, there should be no movement of the post to the front or back. NO FREEPLAY at all. Only turning.

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PS/ OH yeah, remember to lock back the 6mm screw after adjusting!


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Talking about 20H front hubs, I have just ordered one yesterday on Ebay. Not sure what the quality is like but should be ok.


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I needed one so I can swap out the Biologic dynamo that is on the wheel that I recently bought from Rodalink. My Speed TR has the identical wheeel and I didn't want to be riding constantly with the dynamo dragging. Once I replace the dynamo hub with the one I ordered, I can then choose when to use which rclxms.gif

I still can't believe how cheap the wheel was, so no problem spending more to replace the hub. Best of all, I'll have a matching original wheel.

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QUOTE(etigge @ Jan 14 2016, 08:59 PM)
Hahaha! You have to get used to which direction you are turning the screws or nut. Clockwise is tightening and anti clockwise is loosening. This doesn't apply to the bottom brackets and pedals though, the rest are !

Here's the picture of the mentioned nut. so, No 1....... loosen the 6mm screw first
                                                                No 2...... turn the 12mm nut anti clockwise a little, maybe 10 20 degrees will loosen the headset or maybe even less!

Check that the handlepost HAS NO FREEPLAY, means the handle can turn freely only and NO OTHER MOVEMENTS !! No rocking front and back especially. When you brake the front wheels, there should be no movement of the post to the front or back. NO FREEPLAY at all. Only turning.

user posted image


PS/ OH yeah, remember to lock back the 6mm screw after adjusting!

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Thx a lot sifu etigge... I'm gonna give a hard thinking and find courage to attempt it....as I fear might screw things up... Haha
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Talking about 20H front hubs, I have just ordered one yesterday on Ebay.  Not sure what the quality is like but should be ok.
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I needed one so I can swap out the Biologic dynamo that is on the wheel that I recently bought from Rodalink.  My Speed TR has the identical wheeel and I didn't want to be riding constantly with the dynamo dragging.  Once I replace the dynamo hub with the one I ordered, I can then choose when to use which  rclxms.gif

I still can't believe how cheap the wheel was, so no problem spending more to replace the hub.  Best of all, I'll have a matching original wheel.

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Question to Sifu Etigge, not having laced a wheel before, how do you measure correct spoke length for the new hub?  hmm.gif
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There's a formula to calculate and you need to know the dimension of the hubs flange, hubs width and the type of lacing you are going to use. Darn complicated if you ask me, hahahaaa. tongue.gif


So, what I do is I will estimate and lace the 4 quadrants of the rim. And then lace another 4 to the other side. Check the length and then estimate how much to cut. Oh yeah, one more thing, the first 4 spoke has treads that go on and on and on so I can screw the nipples as far as needed. It's more like experimenting. Once you get the correct length, I will start adjusting all the spokes length together. Hard work actually but smaller rims are easier to lace.

Here's the website for wheel building.

http://www.prowheelbuilder.com/spokelengthcalculator
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QUOTE(dannygeni @ Jan 14 2016, 05:36 PM)
sold off my dahon  cause of many squeaking sound. mine is the folding part got sound. adjusted many time still same.
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Teflon tape will do

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Sifus,

If i change the stock Dahon Rotolo tires ( 2.0 x 1.75) to Schwalbe Big Apple ..Can we still fit in the original fender as its much fatter.

Is the Big Apples much better than the rotolo in terms of handling and comfort? What are the negatives compared to Rotolo?

Appreciate the input. Thx.
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QUOTE(266K @ Jan 15 2016, 08:27 AM)
Teflon tape will do
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My Link D8 squeak too, at the folding part. That's a real solution? not a joke right? I'm going to try that.
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QUOTE(etigge @ Jan 15 2016, 02:19 AM)
There's a formula to calculate and you need to know the dimension of the hubs flange, hubs width and the type of lacing you are going to use. Darn complicated if you ask me, hahahaaa.  tongue.gif
So, what I do is I will estimate and lace the 4 quadrants of the rim. And then lace another 4 to the other side. Check the length and then estimate how much to cut. Oh yeah, one more thing, the first 4 spoke has treads that go on and on and on so I can screw the nipples as far as needed. It's more like experimenting. Once you get the correct length, I will start adjusting all the spokes length together. Hard work actually but smaller rims are easier to lace.
I was hoping not to have to cut by buying the correct length spokes. I'm not going to rush it, wait till the hub is here, there work it out. Thanks!
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QUOTE(tcb2010 @ Jan 15 2016, 10:39 AM)
Sifus,

If i change the stock Dahon Rotolo tires ( 2.0 x 1.75) to Schwalbe Big Apple ..Can we still fit in the original fender as its much fatter.

Is the Big Apples much better than the rotolo in terms of handling and comfort? What are the negatives compared to Rotolo?

Appreciate the input. Thx.
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Depends on the type of fender you have. I've got Big Apples and fits the stock fenders. No experience with Rotolo, but the Big Apples are very comfortable. Handling? how much would you need? biggrin.gif
WILL add weight to your bike for sure! Just lose some of your weight to compensate, hahaha
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hi guys,

i am planning to get a bicycle and start to learn how to cycle back , i found this bicycle at lazada

http://www.lazada.com.my/asogo-24-x-138-fi...ed-1632330.html

what you guys think ??

my condition is very simple :

as long the bicycle is cheap and affordable and easy to cycle . ..

my road condition here a bit mountain ... is this kind of fixed gear bicycle is suitable for me ??

or you got a better option or suggestion to me ..

my max budget is RM 500 BELOWWWW .. thank you
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QUOTE(munlok30 @ Jan 15 2016, 01:54 PM)
hi guys,

i am planning to get a bicycle and start to learn how to cycle back  , i found this bicycle at lazada

http://www.lazada.com.my/asogo-24-x-138-fi...ed-1632330.html

what you guys think ??

my condition is very simple :

as long the bicycle is cheap and affordable and easy to cycle . ..

my road condition here a bit mountain ... is this kind of fixed gear bicycle is suitable for me ??

or you got a better option or suggestion to me ..

my max budget is RM 500 BELOWWWW .. thank you
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Read page one, foldie for beginner... blush.gif

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QUOTE(edmund_yung @ Jan 15 2016, 01:27 PM)
My Link D8 squeak too, at the folding part. That's a real solution? not a joke right? I'm going to try that.
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It works for me, my tape is chemical resistance & can stand up to 200 deg C type, mahai punya... just tape where u see paint came off area at folding part.

Oso if u got a loose joint and two metal rubbing, that's where squeak sound come from, like seatpost etc...
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QUOTE(desastar @ Jan 15 2016, 01:46 PM)
I was hoping not to have to cut by buying the correct length spokes. I'm not going to rush it, wait till the hub is here, there work it out.  Thanks!
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From the link on my former comment you can determine the spoke length. They do sell different spoke lengths. As for lacing, single lace is ......... (one pair, one upwards and one downwards is one pair) , the single lacing is 2 empty slots between per pair. Double lace is 4 empty holes between the pair. Lacing is actually how many times the spokes intersect each other. The more they intersect the stronger the build. Happy building! It takes a lot of effort but worth it. Remember that truing is easy but getting the spokes tension even and most of all, getting the rims totally round is the hardest.
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thanks etigge for the tips
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QUOTE(etigge @ Jan 15 2016, 02:52 PM)
From the link on my former comment you can determine the spoke length. They do sell different spoke lengths. As for lacing, single lace is ......... (one pair, one upwards and one downwards is one pair) , the single lacing is 2 empty slots between per pair. Double lace is 4 empty holes between the pair. Lacing is actually how many times the spokes intersect each other. The more they intersect the stronger the build. Happy building! It takes a lot of effort but worth it. Remember that truing is easy but getting the spokes tension even and most of all, getting the rims totally round is the hardest.
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I'll keep you posted.....hahaha
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QUOTE(munlok30 @ Jan 15 2016, 01:54 PM)
hi guys,

i am planning to get a bicycle and start to learn how to cycle back  , i found this bicycle at lazada

http://www.lazada.com.my/asogo-24-x-138-fi...ed-1632330.html

what you guys think ??

my condition is very simple :

as long the bicycle is cheap and affordable and easy to cycle . ..

my road condition here a bit mountain ... is this kind of fixed gear bicycle is suitable for me ??

or you got a better option or suggestion to me ..

my max budget is RM 500 BELOWWWW .. thank you
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Sorry, no other way to say this.....save your money, this is not a bicycle. Go buy a second hand better quality bike, seriously.
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QUOTE(etigge @ Jan 14 2016, 01:25 PM)
A forummer bought a 16 inch rims from me and has find difficulty in sourcing the 20/20 holed hubs for the rims. It's not available in Malaysia actually but it can be bought online from Taobao, China. I have no idea with regards to the said forummer's front fork width as there are 2 different widths. One as used by Dahons and Terns are 74mm and the other the usual 100mm (usually those with disc brakes). The 74mm offers more rigidity and stronger as the spokes are not too angled from the rims. That's why Dahons and Terns choose that width, probably.

There's another option , though. You can get the front hubs (20 holes) from here if you are using 74mm.

http://bicyclebuysell.com/item/311012/kene...bearing-freepos
np la sifu et
and if you are using 100mm forks, you can get the adapters here.

http://bicyclebuysell.com/item/333141/lite...pter-dahon-tern

As for the rear, you can go for either a 24 hole or a 32 hole ones and skip a few holes while lacing. The distance is so small, I don't think it will affect the truing of the rims and more so because the rims are only 16 inch diameter. So, use with confidence. The only drawback is.................most LBS are not interested to do it as there might be a few spokes modifications. You might need to adjust the length of the spokes.

I would suggest though that you take this set. It is the 24 for the rear and the 20 for the front. This eliminates a lot of problems.
http://bicyclebuysell.com/item/204486/nova...24-free-pos-w-m

And if you want to use the regular , more easier and off course cheaper as it is common 32 holes for the front and rear, I have drawn the spokes lacing patterns. The red dots on the smaller circle are the SKIPPED holes. Both the 24 and 32 holes are fine if you look at the lacing of the spokes. Shouldn't be a problem. Good luck !  thumbup.gif

This is the 24 holes lacing.

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and.............this is the 32 holes lacing.

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If you have contacted me earlier, I could have done it for you but I am now in Taiping, so it's a bit hard. If you want to mod the spokes yourself like I do, get this ; The size of the spoke nipples are a bit special though. Most nut and bolts store stocks only 2,3,4,5,6mm etc but not 2.5mm which is the size for the spokes. I got it from Central Nuts and Bolts in Jalan San Peng, K.Lumpur. You get longer spokes, for mountain bikes, these are the easiest to get anyway and then measure and cut to length needed and tread it.

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It works for me, my tape is chemical resistance & can stand up to 200 deg C type, mahai punya... just tape where u see paint came off area at folding part.

Oso if u got a loose joint and two metal rubbing, that's where squeak sound come from, like seatpost etc...
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Great! I'll be at Osaka soon, any idea where can I pick one up? Or I can buy similar product from Ace Hardware here?
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Great! I'll be at Osaka soon, any idea where can I pick one up? Or I can buy similar product from Ace Hardware here?
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sorry it was given to me by Jap fren years ago, I use it for critical work like electrical wiring insulator as well.. no idea where to buy. think just get any teflon tape will do..but must be genuine teflon.. blush.gif
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sorry it was given to me by Jap fren years ago, I use it for critical work like electrical wiring insulator as well.. no idea where to buy.  think just get any teflon tape will do..but must be genuine teflon.. blush.gif
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Water and gas plumbing Teflon tape should be easy enough to find if it is the same thing. I'd prefer a permanent fix though.

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Hi all,

Thinking of getting a folding bike and came to here, which helps a lot for me to understand what is available on the market.

I work in Australia atm but have planned a trip back in Penang(Bukit Mertajam. Eyeing for Dahon Vitesse D8 atm, as I planned to use it about twice a week for commute and have to go up/down staircase quite often during the trip. About 2.5km from my place to train station.

I saw a lot of bike shop in KL but not much in Penang. Do anyone know/recommend bike shop there? I might consider call and ask shops from KL to deliver to Penang if the price difference is a lot.

BTW, there is a owner selling Tern7 for AUD250(about RM750)+approx rm210 to go there and get it. I have asked the owner and he said it is a 2013 model and he had cycled about 10-15km every workday for a year(approx 3000-4000km). Do you think is a good deal?

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Folding-Bike-Te...bsAAOSw5IJWg3ZU

Thanks for reading!!
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QUOTE(kaijiun @ Jan 17 2016, 05:36 PM)
Hi all,

Thinking of getting a folding bike and came to here, which helps a lot for me to understand what is available on the market.

I work in Australia atm but have planned a trip back in Penang(Bukit Mertajam. Eyeing for Dahon Vitesse D8 atm, as I planned to use it about twice a week for commute and have to go up/down staircase quite often during the trip. About 2.5km from my place to train station.

I saw a lot of bike shop in KL but not much in Penang. Do anyone know/recommend bike shop there? I might consider call and ask shops from KL to deliver to Penang if the price difference is a lot.

BTW, there is a owner selling Tern7 for AUD250(about RM750)+approx rm210 to go there and get it. I have asked the owner and he said it is a 2013 model and he had cycled about 10-15km every workday for a year(approx 3000-4000km). Do you think is a good deal?

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Folding-Bike-Te...bsAAOSw5IJWg3ZU

Thanks for reading!!
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For that price plus the price of travelling to get it, it is not worth the trouble for a used unit. You can get the Tern Link here, brand new by just adding RM300. This saves you the trouble of transporting it here as well. The bikes are priced more expensive in Penang , maybe because Penang's businessman are more professional and don't wage price war againts each other. Chin Aik in Carnarvon St. is the agent for Dahon and Terns but if you check with Kimbell Jaya in KL, they will send the bike to you for an extra RM40 to RM50. Just call Jimmy the owner of Kimbell Jaya and discuss with him.

https://www.facebook.com/Kimbell-Jaya-18448...286059/?fref=ts
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simpang pulai - bt gajah - bemban - tronoh - kg bali - tg tualang - malim nawar - gopeng - simpang pulai
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QUOTE(kaijiun @ Jan 17 2016, 05:36 PM)
Hi all,

Thinking of getting a folding bike and came to here, which helps a lot for me to understand what is available on the market.

I work in Australia atm but have planned a trip back in Penang(Bukit Mertajam. Eyeing for Dahon Vitesse D8 atm, as I planned to use it about twice a week for commute and have to go up/down staircase quite often during the trip. About 2.5km from my place to train station.

I saw a lot of bike shop in KL but not much in Penang. Do anyone know/recommend bike shop there? I might consider call and ask shops from KL to deliver to Penang if the price difference is a lot.

BTW, there is a owner selling Tern7 for AUD250(about RM750)+approx rm210 to go there and get it. I have asked the owner and he said it is a 2013 model and he had cycled about 10-15km every workday for a year(approx 3000-4000km). Do you think is a good deal?

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Folding-Bike-Te...bsAAOSw5IJWg3ZU

Thanks for reading!!
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Where abouts are you in Aust currently. You can sometimes pick up a good deal here and just check it in and bring it home. Look out for the higher end models as these would be the ones worth buying. Depends on what you budget is of course.

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For that price plus the price of travelling to get it, it is not worth the trouble for a used unit. You can get the Tern Link here, brand new by just adding RM300.  This saves you the trouble of transporting it here as well. The bikes are priced more expensive in Penang , maybe because Penang's businessman are more professional and don't wage price war againts each other. Chin Aik in Carnarvon St. is the agent for Dahon and Terns but if you check with Kimbell Jaya in KL, they will send the bike to you for an extra RM40 to RM50. Just call Jimmy the owner of Kimbell Jaya and discuss with him.

https://www.facebook.com/Kimbell-Jaya-18448...286059/?fref=ts
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Thanks etigge! Most likely I will do this then. I know in GW cycle boutique blog show rm1650 for vitesse d8 . Do you think it is worth haggling a bit with Kimball jaya or this price is considered obsolete and now cost more? Thanks.
I can only start making calls when back in Malaysia but like to do some homework first.
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QUOTE(desastar @ Jan 17 2016, 07:15 PM)
Where abouts are you in Aust currently. You can sometimes pick up a good deal here and just check it in and bring it home. Look out for the higher end models as these would be the ones worth buying. Depends on what you budget is of course.
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I am in Sydney. Hard to find those deal with ebay and gumtree with my budget (about aud500). The retail were marked up a lot more and hence even with good discount% for second hand , it is hard to beat the price in Malaysia.

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I am in Sydney. Hard to find those deal with ebay and gumtree with my budget (about aud500). The retail were marked up a lot more and hence even with good discount% for second hand , it is hard to beat the price in Malaysia.
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If your budget is AUD500, there's a lot of choices for you in Malaysia, especially in KL. If you are willing to get used unit, it's even cheaper. But I am sure a Tern D7 is about RM1400 or slightly less if you don't want freebies. A few days before you come back, check the bicyclebuysell site.
http://bicyclebuysell.com/#!page=1&sea...=&discp%5B%5D=4
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QUOTE(kaijiun @ Jan 17 2016, 07:48 PM)
I am in Sydney. Hard to find those deal with ebay and gumtree with my budget (about aud500). The retail were marked up a lot more and hence even with good discount% for second hand , it is hard to beat the price in Malaysia.
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Secondhand....
Dahon MU P27 AUD $450
Tern Link D8 AUD $500

How much are these in KL?
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QUOTE(etigge @ Jan 17 2016, 08:35 PM)
If your budget is AUD500, there's a lot of choices for you in Malaysia, especially in KL. If you are willing to get used unit, it's even cheaper. But I am sure a Tern D7 is about RM1400 or slightly less if you don't want freebies. A few days before you come back, check the bicyclebuysell site.
http://bicyclebuysell.com/#!page=1&sea...=&discp%5B%5D=4
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Ok. I will have a look and see. I am more into 8 speed bike for now just to open for more options to upgrade in future.


QUOTE(desastar @ Jan 17 2016, 09:14 PM)
Secondhand....
Dahon MU P27  AUD $450
Tern Link D8  AUD $500

How much are these in KL?
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Where did you get these prices from? I tried google them and couldn't find it.


60% of the time i am cycling off road to pedestrian road when on high car/truck traffic area), with bumpy surface(especially going into different type road, as it sometimes steps up say 4cm), will the folding bike able to withstand this?
I currently cycling a 26" aluminium framed mountain bike with front and back suspension and i just went through them without thinking of consequences(but still felt the step/bump). Just thinking folding bike might need extra cautious on road condition?
Thanks.
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Ok. I will have a look and see. I am more into 8 speed bike for now just to open for more options to upgrade in future.
Where did you get these prices from? I tried google them and couldn't find it.
60% of the time i am cycling off road to pedestrian road when on high car/truck traffic area), with bumpy surface(especially going into different type road, as it sometimes steps up say 4cm), will the folding bike able to withstand this?
I currently cycling a 26" aluminium framed mountain bike with front and back suspension and i just went through them without thinking of consequences(but still felt the step/bump). Just thinking folding bike might need extra cautious on road condition?
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I have used my former Dahon Speed on offroads before (Yes! offroad gravel trail for a full 30 km in a palm oil plantation) and it's OK. In the group were Bromptons, Tyrells and KHS. So, it should be OK if you stick to the branded ones. But because of my Dahon Speed is chromoly steel, it's more easier as chromoly steel absorbs bumps better than the rigidness of aluminium. That's why most tourers are made with the same material. Bouncing up and down kerbs shouldn't pose a problem but it is much more stable on a regular 26 inch bike. The folding bike is 20 inch so it is much more un-stable so it comes down to skills in the end and not about the robustness of the bikes in your question.

Then again, there are regular folding mountain bikes which are 26 inch, namely Dahon, Tern and Java. DOn't go for Hummer because that's crappy! icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(kaijiun @ Jan 18 2016, 05:31 AM)
Ok. I will have a look and see. I am more into 8 speed bike for now just to open for more options to upgrade in future.
Where did you get these prices from? I tried google them and couldn't find it.
60% of the time i am cycling off road to pedestrian road when on high car/truck traffic area), with bumpy surface(especially going into different type road, as it sometimes steps up say 4cm), will the folding bike able to withstand this?
I currently cycling a 26" aluminium framed mountain bike with front and back suspension and i just went through them without thinking of consequences(but still felt the step/bump). Just thinking folding bike might need extra cautious on road condition?
Thanks.
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Gumtree.....
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QUOTE(etigge @ Jan 18 2016, 12:00 PM)
I have used my former Dahon Speed on offroads before (Yes! offroad gravel trail for a full 30 km in a palm oil plantation) and it's OK. In the group were Bromptons, Tyrells and KHS. So, it should be OK if you stick to the branded ones. But because of my Dahon Speed is chromoly steel, it's more easier as chromoly steel absorbs bumps better than the rigidness of aluminium. That's why most tourers are made with the same material. Bouncing up and down kerbs shouldn't pose a problem but it is much more stable on a regular 26 inch bike. The folding bike is 20 inch so it is much more un-stable so it comes down to skills in the end and not about the robustness of the bikes in your question.

Then again, there are regular folding mountain bikes which are 26 inch, namely Dahon, Tern and Java. DOn't go for Hummer because that's crappy! icon_rolleyes.gif
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Ok. Sounds good;). Thanks for the advice!


QUOTE(desastar @ Jan 18 2016, 12:10 PM)
Gumtree.....
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Just saw it. That's in Melbourne. Would have go there to have a look if i am not living in Sydney. I will still keep my option open on used or new until going to malaysia.
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Update to my situation.

For some unknown reason, my mountain bike got punctured today. So happens Gumtree just showed up a Dahon Broadwalk D7 for $170 negotiable.
So I had made an appointment with the owner this evening to have a look.

http://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/greenwich/b...-20-/1101346182

Anything to watch out for inspection? Folding mechanism?

He told me that he bought the bike 2 years ago(maybe is 3 years)

Thanks.

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Update to my situation.

For some unknown reason, my mountain bike got punctured today. So happens Gumtree just showed up a Dahon Broadwalk D7 for $170 negotiable.
So I had made an appointment with the owner this evening to have a look.

http://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/greenwich/b...-20-/1101346182

Anything to watch out for inspection? Folding mechanism?

He told me that he bought the bike 2 years ago(maybe is 3 years)

Thanks.
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Boardwalk not Broadwalk is a good bike and the tubes are chromoly. Just take a test ride and keep a lookout for movement or creaks from the fold area. If all are OK, check for rust in the holes near the fold area after folding. If there are too much rust, means it is not well taken care off. One thing to bear in mind though, if it is a D7, it means the hubs and the rims are of inferior quality. You cannot move up to 8.9 or 10 speed unless you change the wheelsets and hubs. But these are getting cheaper already in Malaysia.

Snap a phot and post it here after you buy it. icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(kaijiun @ Jan 19 2016, 08:39 AM)
Update to my situation.

For some unknown reason, my mountain bike got punctured today. So happens Gumtree just showed up a Dahon Broadwalk D7 for $170 negotiable.
So I had made an appointment with the owner this evening to have a look.

http://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/greenwich/b...-20-/1101346182

Anything to watch out for inspection? Folding mechanism?

He told me that he bought the bike 2 years ago(maybe is 3 years)

Thanks.
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What I love about Gumtree is that prices can vary from bargain to much too expensive. There was one advertised the other day for $50. I was too late in getting a quote for freight.

Most foldable bikes tend to be under-utilised, which means they are in good condition. If not, factor in tyres, chain, brakes and then see if it is still reasonable.
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Hi Guys, anyone from Cheras/Balakong/Kajang area would like to join a small cycling trip for the first time? Recently got my bicycle with 2 other friends and we plan to go cycling at night? 3 people a bit dangerous so if got Kaki we feel safe biggrin.gif

Created a poll below to see how many are interested. Thank you
https://www.facebook.com/groups/67908221552...9407/?qa_ref=qd
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Hi Guys, anyone from Cheras/Balakong/Kajang area would like to join a small cycling trip for the first time? Recently got my bicycle with 2 other friends and we plan to go cycling at night? 3 people a bit dangerous so if got Kaki we feel safe biggrin.gif

Created a poll below to see how many are interested. Thank you
https://www.facebook.com/groups/67908221552...9407/?qa_ref=qd
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I suggest you all fold the bikes and then load them onto your car and drive to Putrajaya and ride. Much safer. Don't forget your lights. I stay in the same area and I don't think it's really safe nowadays with the MRT construction making the whole traffic system hap hazardous. rclxub.gif There are millions of cars going into the housing estate with the jams on the main Saga Highway. Better safe than sorry! Putrajaya is only 15 minutes drive there at night.
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Hi can anyone answer me if i can modify my Trinx KA2016 handle like this image?

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If yes roughly how much it cost to change/add the stem? anyone got used unit wanna sell?

Thanks in advance.

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Hi can anyone answer me if i can modify my Trinx KA2016 handle like this image?

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If yes roughly how much it cost to change/add the stem? anyone got used unit wanna sell?

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Yes you can. Basically, how the handle post is attached to the frame is the same. Dahon uses their own proprietary method where they tread the fork steerer and uses their own large allen nut. This is very secure compared to all the others which uses the star nut. So, if you can find a handle post with the straight design, you can.

Here's an example,
http://world.tmall.com/item/41054148830.ht...0714.0.0.xmLx5l

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Yes you can. Basically, how the handle post is attached to the frame is the same. Dahon uses their own proprietary method where they tread the fork steerer and uses their own large allen nut. This is very secure compared to all the others which uses the star nut. So, if you can find a handle post with the straight design, you can.

Here's an example,
http://world.tmall.com/item/41054148830.ht...0714.0.0.xmLx5l

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alright... thanks for the info
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Yes you can. Basically, how the handle post is attached to the frame is the same. Dahon uses their own proprietary method where they tread the fork steerer and uses their own large allen nut. This is very secure compared to all the others which uses the star nut. So, if you can find a handle post with the straight design, you can.

Here's an example,
http://world.tmall.com/item/41054148830.ht...0714.0.0.xmLx5l

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do you think this can fit my foldie?

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May I know is there any trainer set suitable for folding bike?
Mine is Tern N8.....
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Hello fellow foldies

Tried looking for some info but couldn't find anything recent.

Recently have purchased a Dahon Visc and am fully enjoying it. I need to know if somehow a child seat can be fixed which is front mounted i.e. Between the seat and the handlebar.

Much appreciated.
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May I know is there any trainer set suitable for folding bike?
Mine is Tern N8.....
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so far haven't seen china made trainer for small wheel/mini velo,

these are available in the market. the used one are kinda good price.
might be already sold smile.gif

minoura LR240 - only can fit small wheels.

new
http://bicyclebuysell.com/item/215367/mino...240-mini-remote

used
http://bicyclebuysell.com/item/336676/minoura-lr240

elite qubo series trainer - fits small to big
http://bicyclebuysell.com/item/318342/elite-qubo-trainer

latest minoura hybrid roller - fits small to big wheel
http://bicyclebuysell.com/item/336478/mino...-hybrid-trainer
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QUOTE(imsharad @ Jan 21 2016, 12:39 AM)
Hello fellow foldies

Tried looking for some info but couldn't find anything recent.

Recently have purchased a Dahon Visc and am fully enjoying it. I need to know if somehow a child seat can be fixed which is front mounted i.e. Between the seat and the handlebar.

Much appreciated.
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new visc?

need to look for seat like these...

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QUOTE(imsharad @ Jan 21 2016, 12:39 AM)
Hello fellow foldies

Tried looking for some info but couldn't find anything recent.

Recently have purchased a Dahon Visc and am fully enjoying it. I need to know if somehow a child seat can be fixed which is front mounted i.e. Between the seat and the handlebar.

Much appreciated.
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I am newbie in folding bike. I have an offer by people on Dahon Vybe D7 2015. Its stated new and got it as gift, letting go at RM1000, is it good offer?

Meanwhile, may i know what to check when we dealing with the seller.
Need pro advice.
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QUOTE(il0ve51 @ Jan 21 2016, 04:25 PM)
I am newbie in folding bike. I have an offer by people on Dahon Vybe D7 2015. Its stated new and got it as gift, letting go at RM1000, is it good offer?

Meanwhile, may i know what to check when we dealing with the seller.
Need pro advice.
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vybe got 2 models. one is vybe d7s and vybe d7a where the a stands for alloy and s stands forr steel. an alloy version had an option to upgrade the rear deraillieur.

nevertheless,
i bought my previous vybe c7a new before for rm1k last 3 years ago.try negotiate at least rm850 for a good buy!

the common things to check is the folding parts and gears.thats all!
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QUOTE(azamunekurone @ Jan 22 2016, 09:02 AM)
vybe got 2 models. one is vybe d7s and vybe d7a where the a stands for alloy and s stands forr steel. an alloy version had an option to upgrade the rear deraillieur.

nevertheless,
i bought my previous vybe c7a new before for rm1k last 3 years ago.try negotiate at least rm850 for a good buy!

the common things to check is the folding parts and gears.thats all!
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is the vybe d7a more expensive than vybe d7s?
is 850 consider too lowball?er
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is the vybe d7a more expensive than vybe d7s?
is 850 consider too lowball?er
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To be fair, RM850 is already a good price, for the seller ( if it is a Vybe C7a) ...that is. If he refuse, then he can keep the bike. Regardless whether some seller says, ............." won from a lucky draw",,,,,,,,,,,," rode twice only".............."bought the wrong size" etc.etc, the price is still a used one. If the Vybe is won from a lucky draw , most probably it is a Vybe C7s. It's the heavier ones and used to be sold for less than 1K formerly. The C7a is an extra RM200 to RM300 more.

Let's put it this way, why buy from another person if I can spare a little more for a new one and with the guarantee from a shop. If it much less, then it worthy right.
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To be fair, RM850 is already a good price, for the seller ( if it is a Vybe C7a)  ...that is. If he refuse, then he can keep the bike. Regardless whether some seller says,  ............." won from a lucky draw",,,,,,,,,,,," rode twice only".............."bought the wrong size" etc.etc, the price is still a used one. If the Vybe is won from a lucky draw , most probably it is a Vybe C7s. It's the heavier ones and used to be sold for less than 1K formerly. The C7a is an extra RM200 to RM300 more.

Let's put it this way, why buy from another person if I can spare a little more for a new one and with the guarantee from a shop. If it much less, then it worthy right.
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They said it was Dahon Vybe D7. But never mention it was D7a or D7s.
Is Vybe C7a / C7s same as Vybe D7?
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They said it was Dahon Vybe D7. But never mention it was D7a or D7s.
Is Vybe C7a / C7s same as Vybe D7?
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Like another forummer said before, the difference is the material used. One is aluminum which is lighter and the other is steel, hence the prefix 's' or 'a'. You need to find out yourself as we don't have a picture to compare nor do we have anything, for that instance to say anything else. Make it easier still, offer RM850 and buy it. Makes no difference to you yet.......even if it is an 'a' or an 's' now. tongue.gif Just take the first step and ride, regardless of whether it is worth it or not. Regardless if it is an 'a' or an 's' it is still cheaper than buying a new one in the shops, right? icon_rolleyes.gif

If it is a Vybe D7, then it is the latest Vybe nowadays with an RD hanger. The selling price is RM1.3K averagely now. If you can get it at RM850 you can safely grab it. And if it is really what he says, never been ridden before, another RM100 or RM150 should be OK. But like I said, some would rather pay that extra to get from a shop.

The older version Dahon C7s ....................... Look at the folding clasp area. They are different, the older versions has bulkier clasp.

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QUOTE(etigge @ Jan 22 2016, 12:27 PM)
Like another forummer said before, the difference is the material used. One is aluminum which is lighter and the other is steel, hence the prefix 's' or 'a'. You need to find out yourself as we don't have a picture to compare nor do we have anything, for that instance to say anything else. Make it easier still, offer RM850 and buy it. Makes no difference to you yet.......even if it is an 'a' or an 's' now.  tongue.gif  Just take the first step and ride, regardless of whether it is worth it or not. Regardless if it is an 'a' or an 's' it is still cheaper than buying a new one in the shops, right?  icon_rolleyes.gif

If it is a Vybe D7, then it is the latest Vybe nowadays with an RD hanger. The selling price is RM1.3K averagely now. If you can get it at RM850 you can safely grab it. And if it is really what he says, never been ridden before, another RM100 or RM150 should be OK. But like I said, some would rather pay that extra to get from a shop.

The older version Dahon C7s ....................... Look at the folding clasp area. They are different, the older versions has bulkier clasp.

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Thx for the detail advice.
The one he selling is as D7

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Do D7 has steel or aluminum version? Or does it only comes with aluminium only?
i saw their official site said it was aluminium, never mention steel.
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Thx for the detail advice.
The one he selling is as D7

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Do D7 has steel or aluminum version? Or does it only comes with aluminium only?
i saw their official site said it was aluminium, never mention steel.
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Hi guys

What would u recommend if I wanna get a 24" foldie
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QUOTE(etigge @ Jan 22 2016, 10:10 AM)
To be fair, RM850 is already a good price, for the seller ( if it is a Vybe C7a)  ...that is. If he refuse, then he can keep the bike. Regardless whether some seller says,  ............." won from a lucky draw",,,,,,,,,,,," rode twice only".............."bought the wrong size" etc.etc, the price is still a used one. If the Vybe is won from a lucky draw , most probably it is a Vybe C7s. It's the heavier ones and used to be sold for less than 1K formerly. The C7a is an extra RM200 to RM300 more.

Let's put it this way, why buy from another person if I can spare a little more for a new one and with the guarantee from a shop. If it much less, then it worthy right.
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haha i like tat....its so true, sifu

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Dear all sifus, do we need thicker tire for road trip or just the original slim tire will do? Owning the Java pro 461 model. Appreciate if anyone can enlighten more.

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Dear all sifus, do we need thicker tire for road trip or just the original slim tire will do? Owning the Java pro 461 model. Appreciate if anyone can enlighten more.

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If you hate punctures, use Schwalbe Marathons. However if your wheels are 451s then you are out of luck. Just bring more spare tubes. Width of tyres does not matter, just how much puncture protection.
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If you hate punctures, use Schwalbe Marathons. However if your wheels are 451s then you are out of luck. Just bring more spare tubes. Width of tyres does not matter, just how much puncture protection.
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Sifu, this kind of crank can be used on Dahon MU? hollowtech.


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Sifu, this kind of crank can be used on Dahon MU? hollowtech.
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PS/ The inner chainring looks very small. The outer one is 53T so the inner one should be 39T but it looks smaller than a 39T.

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Sifu, this kind of crank can be used on Dahon MU? hollowtech.
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Are you still looking? Do you know exactly what model you are after and price? You need to know so you are ready to buy when you see one for sale.

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I think GW Cycle have a few unit. Not much lesser than a new unit but still 2K is good money especially in times like this. I think the Bs are from the UK used Bromptons store which might be imported through Singapore. I am not sure, else where can he get so many of them. Brompton buyers are not known to sell their Bs. Usually they keep them until they gather dust, hahahaaa. I mean a person who spends 7K on a folding bike are not in need of money usually.
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Are you still looking?  Do you know exactly what model you are after and price?  You need to know so you are ready to buy when you see one for sale.

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I think GW Cycle have a few unit. Not much lesser than a new unit but still 2K is good money especially in times like this. I think the Bs are from the UK used Bromptons store which might be imported through Singapore. I am not sure, else where can he get so many of them. Brompton buyers are not known to sell their Bs. Usually they keep them until they gather dust, hahahaaa. I mean a person who spends 7K on a folding bike are not in need of money usually.
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Well, I have just installed the collapsible rear rack on my Tikit. Bike Friday does not make them anymore so it took me a while to locate this one, which was in Singapore. The seller was nice enough to hold it for me until I can collect it.
The standard rack is too low for a pannier but this one can be raised up so no problems! And the way it has been designed, the wheel in one corner means the Tikit is now super easy to roll around!

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Bike stands. They are not all pretty and add weight, right. However a bike without a stand can be a pain in the butt, having to lean it against something or lay on the ground. Stands that are well design and lightweight...quick give me one!
I spotted a Minoura kick stand at Johnny's shop in Bandar U. This one is for the Brompton. Very neat looking and simple. Now I won't need to keep folding the bike! Nice!




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Dear sifu, the difference for elevation gain is huge. Is this normal?
Left side: using garmin edge810
right side: using normal handphone for strava.

--How do you set wheel size and crank length for 20" bike on edge 810? Automatic or manual?

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Depends on the type of fender you have.  I've got Big Apples and fits the stock fenders.  No experience with Rotolo, but the Big Apples are very comfortable.  Handling? how much would you need?  biggrin.gif
WILL add weight to your bike for sure!  Just lose some of your weight to compensate, hahaha
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Where can I get the big apples locally?
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Where can I get the big apples locally?
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You may have to ring around and see who has them. Back in Dec when I was after a set, Billy Bike shop in Ipoh had some. RM100 each.

I ended up buying a set of Dahon wheels from Rodalink and it came with the Big Apples. Rodalink also had Marathon Supremes at RM50 each which I thought was a bargain, so I bought a set as well!

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Sifus. What will u recommend for a speedie foldie on a budget? About 1k. New or used.
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QUOTE(desastar @ Feb 1 2016, 12:39 PM)
You may have to ring around and see who has them.  Back in Dec when I was after a set, Billy Bike shop in Ipoh had some.  RM100 each.

I ended up buying a set of Dahon wheels from Rodalink and it came with the Big Apples.  Rodalink also had Marathon Supremes at RM50 each which I thought was a bargain, so I bought a set as well!
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Funny how such a popular tyre not carried by many...Likely due to high price and small niche..at RM100 each for a smallish tyre, is quite hefty..compared to the other much bigger and branded tires.
The supremes at RM50 sounds like a great deal tho...

Any other alternatives from other brands, which is in the league of Big Apple, and more easily available?
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Dear sifu, the difference for elevation gain is huge. Is this normal?
Left side: using garmin edge810
right side: using normal handphone for strava.

--How do you set wheel size and crank length for 20" bike on edge 810? Automatic or manual?

Thanks tou

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strava using gps and calculating the elevation based on google maps topography

garmin using barometer and based on barometric pressure


both can be use as reference but i will stick to garmin because data fields are more accurate .. and fyi .. there is correlation button which u can recalculate your garmin data to strava measurement.. but most of the time i foud garmin data is more logical hehe

as for wheel size.. it will auto calculate by itself since u have automatic option for that.. check on the bike profile..

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QUOTE(tcb2010 @ Feb 2 2016, 12:48 PM)
Yeah,

Funny how such a popular tyre not carried by many...Likely due to high price and small niche..at RM100 each for a smallish tyre, is quite hefty..compared to the other much bigger and branded tires.
The supremes at RM50 sounds like a great deal tho...

Any other alternatives from other brands, which is in the league of Big Apple, and more easily available?
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GH cycle at The Strand has just restock their Maxxis tires. I heard the range is full. If it is, you can try the Maxxis DTH. If big is what you want then go for the 1.9 ones. There's 2 sizes for 20 inch (406) 1.9 or 1.75 width. It has more treads and tougher than Big Apples. Actually they are BMX tires but very good for foldies too. More tread for off road as well. More grip too but when I used the 1.9 the last time, the rear tires rub my Dahon Speed's rear chain stays and took some paint off. So, I changed to 1.75s. Those bike with rear cahin stays have to get 1.75s as the profile of the Maxxis DTH is different from Big apples (although they are 2.0) which are roundish compared to Maxxis DTH which are flat and squarish at the base. The tires really grips though but wears off faster than Big Apples, softer compound mah! blush.gif

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QUOTE(tcb2010 @ Feb 2 2016, 12:48 PM)
Yeah,

Funny how such a popular tyre not carried by many...Likely due to high price and small niche..at RM100 each for a smallish tyre, is quite hefty..compared to the other much bigger and branded tires.
The supremes at RM50 sounds like a great deal tho...

Any other alternatives from other brands, which is in the league of Big Apple, and more easily available?
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The wider the tyre, the lower the pressure (usually) hence will be more comfortable. I had a set of Maxxis Roamer which was 20x1.65 and that was ok. Some wider tyres can be a little heavy too.

I haven't tried the Supremes yet, but they are folding type, so lighter than the Big Apples.
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QUOTE(etigge @ Feb 2 2016, 06:34 PM)
GH cycle at The Strand has just restock their Maxxis tires. I heard the range is full. If it is, you can try the Maxxis DTH. If big is what you want then go for the 1.9 ones. There's 2 sizes for 20 inch (406) 1.9 or 1.75 width. It has more treads and tougher than Big Apples. Actually they are BMX tires but very good for foldies too. More tread for off road as well. More grip too but when I used the 1.9 the last time, the rear tires rub my Dahon Speed's rear chain stays and took some paint off. So, I changed to 1.75s. Those bike with rear cahin stays have to get 1.75s as the profile of the Maxxis DTH is different from Big apples (although they are 2.0) which are roundish compared to Maxxis DTH which are flat and squarish at the base. The tires really grips though but wears off faster than Big Apples, softer compound mah!  blush.gif

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Sweet lookin' wheelset....and im sure u get lots of envious look from others...on that Envy rim..haha

Thx for the input on the DTH...was looking at it as option as well, until u mentioned that it is too wide for Dahons with Chain stays...too bad..
Is the one on ur picture 1.95 wide? coz it sure looks wide and fattish.

Yeah , im considering for bigger balloon tires..so, something bigger than the puny 1.75 rotolo. .For comfort, looks and puncture resistance ( crucial). I punctured my rotolo on my maiden ride due to a wire with stapler diameter size poked thru.

Looking at their website, Maxxis seem to have a few possible choices for folding bike sizes like The Grifter, Torch...but all this are like 110psi rated??

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QUOTE(tcb2010 @ Feb 3 2016, 12:14 PM)
Sweet lookin' wheelset....and im sure u get lots of envious look from others...on that Envy rim..haha

Thx for the input on the DTH...was looking at it as option as well, until u mentioned that it is too wide for Dahons with Chain stays...too bad..
Is the one on ur picture 1.95 wide? coz it sure looks wide and fattish.

Yeah , im considering for bigger balloon tires..so, something bigger than the puny 1.75 rotolo. .For comfort, looks and puncture resistance ( crucial). I punctured my rotolo on my maiden ride due to a wire with stapler diameter size poked thru.

Looking at their website, Maxxis seem to have a few possible choices for folding bike sizes like The Grifter, Torch...but all this are like 110psi rated??
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Kevlar beaded tires (or foldable as they called it) are all high pressure tires. You don't have to use maximum tire pressure as they are quite high volume. But it also depends on the width of the rims. Wider rims tend to lower the height of the tire and also flatten out the profile. Just bear in mind though........it takes more effort to push a wider tire. That's why the road bike tires are puny. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(etigge @ Feb 3 2016, 12:58 PM)
Kevlar beaded tires (or foldable as they called it) are all high pressure tires. You don't have to use maximum tire pressure as they are quite high volume. But it also depends on the width of the rims. Wider rims tend to lower the height of the tire and also flatten out the profile. Just bear in mind though........it takes more effort to push a wider tire. That's why the road bike tires are puny.  tongue.gif
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Sifu etigge, is the stock dahon rims able to fit fat tires like 20 x 2.0 big apple.?

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Sifu etigge, is the stock dahon rims able to fit fat tires like 20 x 2.0 big apple.?
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Hi all,

I wish to get a spanner or equivalent to open up the wheel nuts, in the event of puncture. My Dahon is Vitesse 2015 model and it does not come with a QR.
Any advice on which size to get, and preferably one i can carry on road trips.

Thx.
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Hi all,

I wish to get a spanner or equivalent to open up the wheel nuts, in the event of puncture. My Dahon is Vitesse 2015 model and it does not come with a QR.
Any advice on which size to get, and preferably one i can carry on road trips.

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That nut is 17mm. A 17mm spanner will do the job. You can actually modify the hubs to a quick release one. Cost about RM70 with the quick release squewers ( cheap ones lah off course). Else actually you can repair a puncture without taking out the wheel.

Turn your bicycle upside down with the wheels in the air. Just take out the tire walls, exposing the inner tube , one side is enough. Take out the inner tube and pump it and locate the puncture. Patch it according to the patch kit procedures. Check the internal sides of the tires with your fingers to see if there are any sharp objects and rectify if there are. Put back the inner tube and press the tires back onto the rim beads. Pump ! All this is done without taking out the wheel.

In the older days, bicycle riders usually patch it rather than change the inner tubes. Only nowadays, riders change inner tubes once punctured! rclxub.gif
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That nut is 17mm. A 17mm spanner will do the job. You can actually modify the hubs to a quick release one. Cost about RM70 with the quick release squewers ( cheap ones lah off course). Else actually you can repair a puncture without taking out the wheel.

Turn your bicycle upside down with the wheels in the air. Just take out the tire walls, exposing the inner tube , one side is enough. Take out the inner tube and pump it and locate the puncture. Patch it according to the patch kit procedures. Check the internal sides of the tires with your fingers to see if there are any sharp objects and rectify if there are. Put back the inner tube and press the tires back onto the rim beads. Pump ! All this is done without taking out the wheel.

In the older days, bicycle riders usually patch it rather than change the inner tubes. Only nowadays, riders change inner tubes once punctured!  rclxub.gif
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Hot damn....how come i never thought of that .....Now , i need to learn how to patch instead.. hmm.gif
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QUOTE(etigge @ Feb 4 2016, 09:50 PM)
That nut is 17mm. A 17mm spanner will do the job. You can actually modify the hubs to a quick release one. Cost about RM70 with the quick release squewers ( cheap ones lah off course). Else actually you can repair a puncture without taking out the wheel.

Turn your bicycle upside down with the wheels in the air. Just take out the tire walls, exposing the inner tube , one side is enough. Take out the inner tube and pump it and locate the puncture. Patch it according to the patch kit procedures. Check the internal sides of the tires with your fingers to see if there are any sharp objects and rectify if there are. Put back the inner tube and press the tires back onto the rim beads. Pump ! All this is done without taking out the wheel.

In the older days, bicycle riders usually patch it rather than change the inner tubes. Only nowadays, riders change inner tubes once punctured!  rclxub.gif
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Etigge,

Modifying the hubs to QR..means switching out the stock hubs inner shaft with a QR skewer, is that right? Is it a DIY jobs, or something that needs to be done by experience hands of LBS?
Can you advice some of the budget skewers that i can look into?
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Etigge,

Modifying the hubs to QR..means switching out the stock hubs inner shaft with a QR skewer, is that right? Is it a DIY jobs, or something that needs to be done by experience hands of LBS?
Can you advice some of the budget skewers that i can look into?
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It's actually a 'monkey see, monkey do' kind of procedure. You only need the proper tools and then take out the shaft. The shaft can be bought at Kimbell Jaya or any LBS for that matter. You need to get 2 shafts one front and one rear. Make sure they are hollow type for the QR skewers. The rear ones are standard but the front ones................if you use Tern or Dahon , you need to shorten them. And also the skewers , for the front you need to shorten them as well if yours are 74mm. After measuring the right length, you have to cut and then re-tread the 5mm treads. Kimbell jaya can do the modification if you ask them but not on a weekend. Best on a weekday.

The cone bearings has to come out and the shaft changed with a hollowed one. Just remember the sequence and then re-assemble them back tracking the sequence. Might as well service the hubs as well. Clean it with kerosene or degreaser and then re lube them back. The trickiest part is the last bolt adjustment. It has to be tight enough so the whole assembly won't rock but not slow down the rotation. That's why bicycle tool sets have 2 of those thin 15mm spanners. It is to lock these nuts when the hub assembly goes loose. They will in the long run anyway.

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QUOTE(etigge @ Feb 5 2016, 06:23 PM)
It's actually a 'monkey see, monkey do' kind of procedure. You only need the proper tools and then take out the shaft. The shaft can be bought at Kimbell Jaya or any LBS for that matter. You need to get 2 shafts one front and one rear. Make sure they are hollow type for the QR skewers. The rear ones are standard but the front ones................if you use Tern or Dahon , you need to shorten them. And also the skewers , for the front you need to shorten them as well if yours are 74mm. After measuring the right length, you have to cut and then re-tread the 5mm treads. Kimbell jaya can do the modification if you ask them but not on a weekend. Best on a weekday.

The cone bearings has to come out and the shaft changed with a hollowed one. Just remember the sequence and then re-assemble them back tracking the sequence. Might as well service the hubs as well. Clean it with kerosene or degreaser and then re lube them back. The trickiest part is the last bolt adjustment. It has to be tight enough so the whole assembly won't rock but not slow down the rotation. That's why bicycle tool sets have 2 of those thin 15mm spanners. It is to lock these nuts when the hub assembly goes loose. They will in the long run anyway.

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Hi,

Anyone staying nearby Balakong / BT 11 / BT 9 / Mahkota Cheras / Sungai Long / Kajang ?
Want to go cycling at night on every Friday 9pm - 11pm (time and day can be change to adjust majority of the members)

If yes, please reply so we can organize our first LYN Cheras Selatan Cycling group biggrin.gif

There seems to be a few routes we can try
1. BMC - SG LONG - LEKAS Junction (then u turn back) roughly about 20KM
2. BMC - SG LONG - LEKAS Junction - Sg Ramal - Serdang Hospital - Mines - Sg Long - 35KM

Want to try?

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QUOTE(jackster @ Feb 8 2016, 11:51 PM)
Hi,

Anyone staying nearby Balakong / BT 11 / BT 9 / Mahkota Cheras / Sungai Long / Kajang ?
Want to go cycling at night on every Friday 9pm - 11pm (time and day can be change to adjust majority of the members)

If yes, please reply so we can organize our first LYN Cheras Selatan Cycling group biggrin.gif

There seems to be a few routes we can try
1. BMC - SG LONG - LEKAS Junction (then u turn back) roughly about 20KM
2. BMC - SG LONG - LEKAS Junction - Sg Ramal - Serdang Hospital - Mines - Sg Long - 35KM

Want to try?
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Saturday & Sunday morning (7am onwards).
BT 18 - Genting Peras - BT18
Semenyih - Dam - Semenyih

You can bumps into bunch of cyclists there

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Saturday & Sunday morning (7am onwards).
BT 18 - Genting Peras - BT18
Semenyih - Dam - Semenyih

You can bumps into bunch of cyclists there
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Thanks. Will you be going?
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i hate to say this i hate you all,
hate to start, start with a Tern P9, now butt itchy wanna buy brompton.
die la die la....
HATE CHU ALL
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QUOTE(chongkiat @ Feb 12 2016, 04:43 PM)
i hate to say this i hate you all,
hate to start, start with a Tern P9, now butt itchy wanna buy brompton.
die la die la....
HATE CHU ALL
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Why hate? Just buy the B and love love! Lol
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Well, all the parts for my wheel have arrived. I decided to remove the Dynamo hub to get the wheel ready.
Thank goodness I measured then remeasured a few times before ordering the spokes. Looks like perfect fit. Had to do up a simple jig so I can align the wheel. Not 100% but good enough, overall out maybe up to 1mm.
Picked radial lacing which is the easiest! Now I've got two front wheels to be able to do quick swaps if I want to use Dynamo or not.



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i hate to say this i hate you all,
hate to start, start with a Tern P9, now butt itchy wanna buy brompton.
die la die la....
HATE CHU ALL
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There are many reasons why one falls into such a trap. For 3 years, I have been riding a foldie and the biggest flaw I see in a foldie is......................Not enough gear ratios ! rclxub.gif We are a group that travels far, far places almost every week. Once a month we ride nicer further destinations. It was fun. And as for gearings, Brompton comes in as the worst ! rclxub.gif In our rides , among those with 30 speeds (a KHS), 27 speeders (mine and a few others after modifications and the 18 speeders (eg. Dahon Visc and Dash ) and you have the 6 speed Bromptons. Worse of it, they are 349 - 16 inchers! It was the most under spec-ed bike of all and yet the most expensive !

Why I emphasize EXPENSIVE ? Becasue that is why you are so attracted to the Brompton and so are many of the others. They have become a niche group and you are just so eager to join the club. It's not wrong though, every riders have their priorities, just don't blow your credit card finances and suffer paying interest just for a bike. blush.gif Just like many who buys BMWs who cannot even drive outstation without getting the middle finger, it's absolutely their right and their enjoyment to do so, just like the Bromptons. If you feel you want to be among the niche market............go ahead. Enjoy thumbup.gif

Till today, I can spend almost 10K on a mountain bike and I have 2 of it too, me and wife, identical rides but I still find it so hard to fork out 5K for a used Brompton! So, it comes to priorities, what's yours and mine are totally different.

If you really want it, just go ahead. icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(etigge @ Feb 13 2016, 11:27 AM)
There are many reasons why one falls into such a trap. For 3 years, I have been riding a foldie and the biggest flaw I see in a foldie is......................Not enough gear ratios !  rclxub.gif  We are a group that travels far, far places almost every week. Once a month we ride nicer further destinations. It was fun. And as for gearings, Brompton comes in as the worst !  rclxub.gif  In our rides , among those with 30 speeds (a KHS), 27 speeders (mine and a few others after modifications  and the 18 speeders (eg. Dahon Visc and Dash ) and you have the 6 speed Bromptons. Worse of it, they are 349 - 16 inchers! It was the most under spec-ed bike of all and yet the most expensive !

Why I emphasize EXPENSIVE ? Becasue that is why you are so attracted to the Brompton and so are many of the others. They have become a niche group and you are just so eager to join the club. It's not wrong though, every riders have their priorities, just don't blow your credit card finances and suffer paying interest just for a bike. blush.gif  Just like many who buys BMWs who cannot even drive outstation without getting the middle finger, it's absolutely their right and their enjoyment to do so, just like the Bromptons. If you feel you want to be among the niche market............go ahead. Enjoy  thumbup.gif

Till today, I can spend almost 10K on a mountain bike and I have 2 of it too, me and wife, identical rides but I still find it so hard to fork out 5K for a used Brompton! So, it comes to priorities, what's yours and mine are totally different.

If you really want it, just go ahead. icon_rolleyes.gif
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Hi Sifu,

I have to disagree with you that people are drawn to the Bromptons because they are expensive. Of course in some instances, that would be the case, but what makes the Brompton unique is its folded size. They are also fun to ride within its ability, so if you want to keep up with road bikes or go climb mountains, then better look elsewhere. However, if you want to take a bike with you when you travel so you can see more of the city, the Brompton shines.

The Brompton does have enough gears, both high and low, however the gears are in big jumps in ratios, so not easy as it could be either too high or too low. The size of the wheels do not matter so much. It is just as fast or slow as the 20' 406/451.

I bought my Bromptons to tour cities and I quite like the cheeky design, not to join an elite group. I don't have time for any elite groups for that matter. I have bikes both cheaper and more expensive and I buy because I like the way a bike looks or ride.

You are absolutely right that everyone's idea of a perfect bike is different. A potential owner should take it for a ride to get a real feel and see if they are what is expected. If possible, buy secondhand. That way you will lose very little if at all.

BTW, this thread is getting very quiet. We need more people contributing to keep it interesting. Where is everyone??? hmm.gif Hope it is because of CNY.





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Hi Sifu,

I have to disagree with you that people are drawn to the Bromptons because they are expensive.  Of course in some instances, that would be the case, but what makes the Brompton unique is its folded size. They are also fun to ride within its ability, so if you want to keep up with road bikes or go climb mountains, then better look elsewhere. However, if you want to take a bike with you when you travel so you can see more of the city, the Brompton shines.

The Brompton does have enough gears, both high and low, however the gears are in big jumps in ratios, so not easy as it could be either too high or too low. The size of the wheels do not matter so much.  It is just as fast or slow as the 20' 406/451.

I bought my Bromptons to tour cities and I quite like the cheeky design, not to join an elite group.  I don't have time for any elite groups for that matter. I have bikes both cheaper and more expensive and I buy because I like the way a bike looks or ride.

You are absolutely right that everyone's idea of a perfect bike is different. A potential owner should take it for a ride to get a real feel and see if they are what is expected. If possible, buy secondhand.  That way you will lose very little if at all.

BTW, this thread is getting very quiet.  We need more people contributing to keep it interesting.  Where is everyone???  hmm.gif  Hope it is because of CNY.
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As mentioned by you, everyone has a different opinion as I too mentioned, it more of priorities. Folding size or speed was never my criteria in choosing a folding bike. I usually don't take commuter trains hence I didn't mention in my comments. Mine was more for weekend rides ranging from 40 km to 200 kms over a weekend. That's why a Brompton is highly dis-advantageous for my use. Desastar, you are a different rider from most of the 'B' riders here in Malaysia, so I won't refute your comments. It's true BTW. I also notice many 'B' riders are multiple bicycle owners. I too practically knows most of the 'B' riders here in KL/PJ and they too use a more varied gear ratios bike in many of their longer rides or hilly rides.

The phenomena is not only in Malaysia but in many countries as well. In Korea it is such a status symbol that Brompton UK decided to limit their export numbers to Korea. Brompton UK did not want the Bromptons to have a different identity to what they were actually made for. Singapore has quite a number as well. I have even seen Brompton Singapore riders charter a whole coach to Taiping for a community ride there and just as the rides starts, it started drizzling and all of them folded back their bikes and hopped back into the bus. I am sure you are not these kind of riders, right? tongue.gif

I actually can't resist the 'peer pressure' as well, both me and wife wanting to get a 'B' as well. Apart from the compact folding which is already surpassed by Helix folding bike with a bigger 24 inch wheels and lighter as well, there is nothing that attracts me. I then ponder on the Rohloff 14 speed gears on Brompton. It was then ideal but it also makes the rear really heavy and the proper rear triangle cost was too much! Even worse, Malaysian currency makes everything 26 percent higher. A 6 speed Brompton cheapest variety has breached the 7K mark now. Now many potential Brompton buyers are saying the resale value if better. Isn't it getting to be like a car but then I never buy something to be sold later. biggrin.gif

My full suspension mountain bike is 12.6 kg with 30 speed while the Brompton is 14 kgs + with 6 speed. A Dahon Speed is 12.8 kgs with 8 speed and cost one third of the Brompton. As for ride, the Dahon Speed rides better. I just can't figure out the advantage of paying so much extra.









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QUOTE(etigge @ Feb 13 2016, 03:43 PM)
As mentioned by you, everyone has a different opinion as I too mentioned, it more of priorities. Folding size or speed was never my criteria in choosing a folding bike. I usually don't take commuter trains hence I didn't mention in my comments. Mine was more for weekend rides ranging from 40 km to 200 kms over a weekend. That's why a Brompton is highly dis-advantageous for my use. Desastar, you are a different rider from most of the 'B' riders here in Malaysia, so I won't refute your comments. It's true BTW. I also notice many 'B' riders are multiple bicycle owners.  I too practically knows most of the 'B' riders here in KL/PJ and they too use a more varied gear ratios bike in many of their longer rides or hilly rides.

The phenomena is not only in Malaysia but in many countries as well. In Korea it is such a status symbol that Brompton UK decided to limit their export numbers to Korea. Brompton UK did not want the Bromptons to have a different identity to what they were actually made for. Singapore has quite a number as well. I have even seen Brompton Singapore riders charter a whole coach to Taiping for a community ride there and just as the rides starts, it started drizzling and all of them folded back their bikes and hopped back into the bus. I am sure you are not these kind of riders, right?  tongue.gif

I actually can't resist the 'peer pressure' as well, both me and wife wanting to get a 'B' as well. Apart from the compact folding which is already surpassed by Helix folding bike with a bigger 24 inch wheels and lighter as well, there is nothing that attracts me. I then ponder on the Rohloff 14 speed gears on Brompton. It was then ideal but it also makes the rear really heavy and the proper rear triangle cost was too much! Even worse, Malaysian currency makes everything 26 percent higher. A 6 speed Brompton cheapest variety has breached the 7K mark now. Now many potential Brompton buyers are saying the resale value if better. Isn't it getting to be like a car but then I never buy something to be sold later.  biggrin.gif

My full suspension mountain bike is 12.6 kg with 30 speed while the Brompton is 14 kgs + with 6 speed. A Dahon Speed is 12.8 kgs with 8 speed and cost one third of the Brompton. As for ride, the Dahon Speed rides better.  I just can't figure out the advantage of paying so much extra.
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There is no doubt that there are nicer riding bikes out there. I have to say that my Dahon Speed TR rides nicer than my Bike Friday Tikit, both with same gear system and the Speed being half the price of Tikit. However the Tikit does something so well that I can forgive the ride quality. The speed of the fold is remarkable! While the Dahon rides well now, will it be as robust in years to come remains to be seen. I have to say the B is much strongly built compared to the Dahon.
I don't ride the B much, but under the right conditions, it makes sense, so I'm keeping this one.
All folding bikes actually do not make sense. They cost more, they are heavier, and do not generally perform to the same level of full sized bikes. But they are fun, esp riding with people who feels the same way, much like a car or motorcycle club.
I really don't know about the bike culture in Msia. I do hope it does not matter what you ride, rich or poor, but the enthusiasm is what counts. 😁
I will share with you my next project, as you like mountain bikes. It'll be in a couple of weeks time as I'm waiting for parts to arrive. I'm not into mountain bikes but this is not in the same league as yours of course!
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I am not getting a brompton for its ridability but it's the portability.
I travel all.over quite a lot an 20 inch tern is quite hard to pack n fly with.
I got a tourer and MTB already.
By the way if anyone have used brompton for sale pls let me know
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QUOTE(chongkiat @ Feb 14 2016, 11:15 AM)
I am not getting a brompton for its ridability but it's the portability.
I travel all.over quite a lot an 20 inch tern is quite hard to pack n fly with.
I got a tourer and MTB already.
By the way if anyone have used brompton for sale pls let me know
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Then it is the best choice for you. Teh Dahon EEZZ is also quite portable, small 16 inch and lighter and cheaper as well. As for used Bromptons, GW Cycle seems to have a few of them for sale. I don't if it is still in stock though. Usually those who rides Bromptons don't sell them off even if they don't use them anymore. eBay has many but the problem is the transportation charges. Easier if you have someone carrying back for you. It's cheaper in Hong Kong too, ranging from HKD8000 to HKD 12,000 depending on models and conditions. Try contact Flying Ball Bicycle Company in Hong Kong. We are talking about used unit........ya! icon_rolleyes.gif
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bro etigge
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is this accurate dimension of eezz?

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I'm new on foldies been using vigor p9 for 3 months now its basically a weekly activity just roaming around at putrajaya at night with friends. Overall I'm happy with my purchase big thanks to bro @rkhairulrijal for the guide. Anyway I've heard about vigor p9 about upgrade and i'm not sure what it is lol. But maybe I wanna change the rim maybe for it to look nicer ? where can i search nice may red wheel rim ? and anyone can guide me about the upgrade speed ? and where can I upgrade it ?

How can I make a full use of this bike ? In terms of upgrading ? Thanks sifu

or should I just save my money and aim for high end tern or maybe perhaps a brompton lol. I've been following brompton's instagram and gotta tell u the poison and jizz is drool.gif . Anyway I read the few comments b4 and its true it depends on your needs.

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bro etigge
is this accurate dimension of eezz?

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Yes, that's eezz and here's the comparison between Brompton and it.

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bro etigge
is this accurate dimension of eezz?

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Wow, is it really so much shorter? I'd stick with the B.
Might be alright riding that tiny Eezz in Asia where folding bikes are taken seriously.
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QUOTE(chongkiat @ Feb 14 2016, 11:15 AM)
I am not getting a brompton for its ridability but it's the portability.
I travel all.over quite a lot an 20 inch tern is quite hard to pack n fly with.
I got a tourer and MTB already.
By the way if anyone have used brompton for sale pls let me know
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When I put mine up for sale a few months ago, nobody was game enough to buy even when I was going to personally deliver the bike to the buyer. That was basically a new bike, not used all that much and never been in the rain! (you guessed it Sifu Etigge!)
Buying secondhand makes perfect sense. Won't lose money.
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still have anything to sell?

QUOTE(desastar @ Feb 14 2016, 05:23 PM)
When I put mine up for sale a few months ago, nobody was game enough to buy even when I was going to personally deliver the bike to the buyer. That was basically a new bike, not used all that much and never been in the rain! (you guessed it Sifu Etigge!)
Buying secondhand makes perfect sense. Won't lose money.
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Sorry sold one and keeping the other. This one has been in the rain, LOL. It is a P model, now converted to an M.

Good luck with your search. smile.gif
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I will camp here till u sell it...hahhhhahs
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its been a while i didnt updet any pix of my folding hybrid (fullsized 700 foldingbike). anyway this is the latest setup after a nice cleanup bcoz of last night ride in the rain laugh.gif

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p/s: that is not a duraace wheelset. its only shimano rs11 wheelset with duraace decals laugh.gif laugh.gif
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QUOTE(chongkiat @ Feb 14 2016, 10:39 PM)
I will camp here till u sell it...hahhhhahs
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Don't catch a cold. LOL

If you pay market price you can get one. If you want bargain price then have to wait, ready to pounce!


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I belive in fair price not cut throat offers.
Hehehhe
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Has anyone here bought/ridden/seen the new Tyrell IVE?  Looks good....
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I went to khass bicycle shop to test ride Tyrell ive. The bike rides very well and comfortable on the seat, as if there's a suspension on back wheels. I've tried standing up and pedal, it don't have much flex. It's a very fast bike, no doubt. Built quality is excellent with the folding all into the right place without touching or rubbing any part of the frame. I like the paint job, it glossy and it feels really nice to touch.
However, it doesn't fold really small for a 18" bike. Compare to Dahon route, it's only slightly shorter but a little wider. Narrow are almost the same.
Retail price are at RM6k.
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wow price of dahon have increased over 1k for some model...
visc d18 wan over 3k ???

montague have changed their locking design...


http://www.montaguebikes.com/direct-connect/

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QUOTE(PaulKong @ Feb 16 2016, 02:36 AM)
I went to khass bicycle shop to test ride Tyrell ive. The bike rides very well and comfortable on the seat, as if there's a suspension on back wheels. I've tried standing up and pedal, it don't have much flex. It's a very fast bike, no doubt. Built quality is excellent with the folding all into the right place without touching or rubbing any part of the frame. I like the paint job, it glossy and it feels really nice to touch.
However, it doesn't fold really small for a 18" bike. Compare to Dahon route, it's only slightly shorter but a little wider. Narrow are almost the same.
Retail price are at RM6k.
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You mean that thing at the back of the frame is not the suspension block? Silly not to include one as the position is already there!

Nice bike though. Thanks for the rundown.
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Thanks for the pics H2D. Love this bike.

Nice to see pictures of bikes! Keep them coming! thumbup.gif


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QUOTE(desastar @ Feb 16 2016, 05:35 PM)
You mean that thing at the back of the frame is not the suspension block?  Silly not to include one as the position is already there!

Nice bike though.  Thanks for the rundown.
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When you have a rubber block there, there's a possibility that it might wobble in the long run as many has demonstrated under poor maintenance. Like those 'B' copies, the MT from Flamigo, it wobbles even when new. KHS foldies on the other hand has a rubber block embedded inside the steel tube and this helps but the travel is just minimal. Unless you machine the pivots precisionly with sealed bearings embedded, many will have movements. That's why they prefer not to have suspension there. Even Dahon Curl omitted the rubber block altogether by going for a snapped tight V-joint which totally clasp the joint solidly without movement. They also patented the blardy joint! rclxub.gif

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If you take a 'B' unfolded and you lift up the rear wheels, you will feel the movement. That's what Tyrell wanted to avoid , probably and also Dahon Curl. A lot of care and maintenance is needed as this point as movements without grease will equate to wear and tear faster.

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Thanks for the pics H2D.  Love this bike.

Nice to see pictures of bikes!  Keep them coming!  thumbup.gif
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This model available in Singapore and Thailand but Malaysia................." yelek ! " Don't know why either. icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(etigge @ Feb 17 2016, 02:03 PM)
When you have a rubber block there, there's a possibility that it might wobble in the long run as many has demonstrated under poor maintenance. Like those 'B' copies, the MT from Flamigo, it wobbles even when new. KHS foldies on the other hand has a rubber block embedded inside the steel tube and this helps but the travel is just minimal. Unless you machine the pivots precisionly with sealed bearings embedded, many will have movements. That's why they prefer not to have suspension there. Even Dahon Curl omitted the rubber block altogether by going for a snapped tight V-joint which totally clasp the joint solidly without movement. They also patented the blardy joint! rclxub.gif

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If you take a 'B' unfolded and you lift up the rear wheels, you will feel the movement. That's what Tyrell wanted to avoid , probably and also Dahon Curl. A lot of care and maintenance is needed as this point as movements without grease will equate to wear and tear faster.
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If you mean sideway movement, that would be the bush in the pivot joint has worn. The manufacturing process must obviously be precise to start off with, so perhaps that is the difference in quality between the B and the copies. The Birdy has similar suspension block and I have not heard any complaints.
In any case it is a shame not to have some give in the frame as small wheels are quite harsh on rough roads.



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i would buy this dahon curl if it is below 5k
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i would buy this dahon curl if it is below 5k
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But the bent frame is too ugly wor....... and three speed? Remember to consider resale value.
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i would buy this dahon curl if it is below 5k
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I am still waiting rclxub.gif They launched once but failed because it was too expensive. They used the highly advanced internal geared crank called Schlumpf system and internal gearings at the rear. This makes the bike hyper expensive. They retracted the launch and went back to the drawing boards. Now they have announced that the re-launching is in Spring this year. Keeping my finger crossed. I too, budget about 5K too for the bike.

I am not worried about the 3 speed of the bike. As long as the rear hubs width is the standard 135mm as opposed to Brompton's 128mm , it's fine. I can fit in the Shimano Alfine 11 speed or the Rohloff 14 speed into it without modifications to the frame. Also it is a full 18 inch bike, bigger than a B, lighter than a B, folds smaller than a B and most important, modificatiosn are possible. thumbup.gif
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Looks like the Curl may be also what I'm looking for. I need a bike that fit in those Samsonite/Delsey XL size hard case around 81 x 55 x 35cm. The B and Eezz didn't cut it. Currently putting a Tern Link D8 detached with Flight-Suit.
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QUOTE(etigge @ Feb 17 2016, 02:03 PM)
When you have a rubber block there, there's a possibility that it might wobble in the long run as many has demonstrated under poor maintenance. Like those 'B' copies, the MT from Flamigo, it wobbles even when new. KHS foldies on the other hand has a rubber block embedded inside the steel tube and this helps but the travel is just minimal. Unless you machine the pivots precisionly with sealed bearings embedded, many will have movements. That's why they prefer not to have suspension there. Even Dahon Curl omitted the rubber block altogether by going for a snapped tight V-joint which totally clasp the joint solidly without movement. They also patented the blardy joint! rclxub.gif

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If you take a 'B' unfolded and you lift up the rear wheels, you will feel the movement. That's what Tyrell wanted to avoid , probably and also Dahon Curl. A lot of care and maintenance is needed as this point as movements without grease will equate to wear and tear faster.
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I've lift up this IVE, it doesn't have movement like the "B", it's using a internal clamp that can be release from the handle bar. Even there's no suspension block, the ride is still consider good for a 18" wheels.
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i can afford a brompton, however i keep questioning myself on a value proposition of it.
within malaysia, my tern p9 will always be the first choice,chunk into car reach and unfold it.
brompton sized is more for overseas travel, where i can just put into my luggage without much problem and carry it along with me whenever i am on public transport.
At cheapest 6sp at RM6700 for a brompton, i am thinking if i should spend that kind of money. Arguably brompton is a different league by its own, but i am not fanboy nor die hard fan.

I need to balance between the price i paid and the utility it provide me with.

having said so if a reasonably priced used B came along before Curl is available, i guess i will still make the jump.


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QUOTE(chongkiat @ Feb 18 2016, 04:19 PM)
i can afford a brompton, however i keep questioning myself on a value proposition of it.
within malaysia, my tern p9 will always be the first choice,chunk into car reach and unfold it.
brompton sized is more for overseas travel, where i can just put into my luggage without much problem and carry it along with me whenever i am on public transport.
At cheapest 6sp at RM6700 for a brompton, i am thinking if i should spend that kind of money. Arguably brompton is a different league by its own, but i am not fanboy nor die hard fan.

I need to balance between the price i paid and the utility it provide me with.

having said so if a reasonably priced used B came along before Curl is available, i guess i will still make the jump.
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You buy Brompton for its legacy not functionality. It's not a fast nor it can climb hill easily.
Your tern p9 can out ride a Brompton in speed and comfort easily. 😄😄😄
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That's why if there is an alternative, i wouldn't think twice to get it.

QUOTE(PaulKong @ Feb 18 2016, 05:34 PM)
You buy Brompton for its legacy not functionality. It's not a fast nor it can climb hill easily.
Your tern p9 can out ride a Brompton in speed and comfort easily. 😄😄😄
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That's why if there is an alternative, i wouldn't think twice to get it.
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Having said all that, I would like to have a Brompton one day. 😁😁😁
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QUOTE(etigge @ Feb 18 2016, 01:01 PM)
I am still waiting  rclxub.gif  They launched once but failed because it was too expensive. They used the highly advanced internal geared crank called Schlumpf system and internal gearings at the rear. This makes the bike hyper expensive. They retracted the launch and went back to the drawing boards. Now they have announced that the re-launching is in Spring this year. Keeping my finger crossed. I too, budget about 5K too for the bike.

I am not worried about the 3 speed of the bike. As long as the rear hubs width is the standard 135mm as opposed to Brompton's 128mm , it's fine. I can fit in the Shimano Alfine 11 speed or the Rohloff 14 speed into it without modifications to the frame. Also it is a full 18 inch bike, bigger than a B, lighter than a B, folds smaller than a B and most important, modificatiosn are possible.  thumbup.gif
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But sifu, by the time you add Rohloff or Alfine, it is no longer $5k and then the weight goes up.
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QUOTE(PaulKong @ Feb 18 2016, 05:34 PM)
You buy Brompton for its legacy not functionality. It's not a fast nor it can climb hill easily.
Your tern p9 can out ride a Brompton in speed and comfort easily. 😄😄😄
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It's not so much that the B can't go fast. It is more of an effort as the gear ratios are far apart. In ideal conditions, ie wind behind you and flat road, the top gear is pretty quick. But why got ideal condition one, right? More gears simply let you maintain momentum, not necessary any faster or climb higher.

Comfort? The B is not bad with the rear suspension block.
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QUOTE(edmund_yung @ Feb 18 2016, 01:46 PM)
Looks like the Curl may be also what I'm looking for. I need a bike that fit in those Samsonite/Delsey XL size hard case around 81 x 55 x 35cm. The B and Eezz didn't cut it. Currently putting a Tern Link D8 detached with Flight-Suit.
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Don't forget there's also the Bike Friday Tikit. Mine goes into a Samsonite.
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QUOTE(chongkiat @ Feb 18 2016, 04:19 PM)
i can afford a brompton, however i keep questioning myself on a value proposition of it.
within malaysia, my tern p9 will always be the first choice,chunk into car reach and unfold it.
brompton sized is more for overseas travel, where i can just put into my luggage without much problem and carry it along with me whenever i am on public transport.
At cheapest 6sp at RM6700 for a brompton, i am thinking if i should spend that kind of money. Arguably brompton is a different league by its own, but i am not fanboy nor die hard fan.

I need to balance between the price i paid and the utility it provide me with.

having said so if a reasonably priced used B came along before Curl is available, i guess i will still make the jump.
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I would also think twice if I had to pay full new price for one. Both of mine were second hand. I can easily sell them at the same price when time to sell. While is B has very good resale, it has fantastic resale if bought secondhand. I suspect Dahon bought new not so much, but once again secondhand would be ok.

I come across a B for sale once in a while and they get snapped up very quick, even over here in Oz where riding a folding bike is not, errr macho blink.gif First comment usually, hey that's cute! doh.gif
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But sifu, by the time you add Rohloff or Alfine, it is no longer $5k and then the weight goes up.
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Actually I wrote to Dahon to sell me 2 Curl's frame but no response from them...hahahaa tongue.gif My main criteria is the wide range of gears and a Rohloff's 14 speed is equivalent to a 3 x 9 speed and the Alfine slightly less. The Alfine is about 1.5K here with the shifters and chain tensioner and the Rohloff about 3K. That adds up to 8K IF....that's a big IF , the Curl is going for 5K. It still beats the price of a Brompton which is almost 13K if I want to use a Rohloff! rclxub.gif The rear triangle itself cost almost 3K and plus the Rohloff another 3K and plus the cost of the Brompton itself that's too much already.

The Bromptons are manufacture in such a way to forbid modifications unless done by them. That's selfish and also they wanted it for a main purpose only, short commuting rides. Off course there are exceptions where others takes it for long tours. It's more of an exception than a norm. That's why they made the rear triangle 115mm wide only. If it was 135mm, me and wife would have been riding it long ago. biggrin.gif

Oh ya! Akmal Basikal in Bangsar (agent for Rohloff) did try to expand the rear triangle and fit in a Rohloff. He did it but the lock nuts can't sit properly as he widen each side by 10mm and the hanger plate is at an angle.

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QUOTE(etigge @ Feb 18 2016, 09:25 PM)
Actually I wrote to Dahon to sell me 2 Curl's frame but no response from them...hahahaa tongue.gif  My main criteria is the wide range of gears and a Rohloff's 14 speed is equivalent to a 3 x 9 speed and the Alfine slightly less. The Alfine is about 1.5K here with the shifters and chain tensioner and the Rohloff about 3K. That adds up to 8K IF....that's a big IF , the Curl is going for 5K. It still beats the price of a Brompton which is almost 13K if I want to use a Rohloff!  rclxub.gif  The rear triangle itself cost almost 3K and plus the Rohloff another 3K and plus the cost of the Brompton itself that's too much already.

The Bromptons are manufacture in such a way to forbid modifications unless done by them. That's selfish and also they wanted it for a main purpose only, short commuting rides. Off course there are exceptions where others takes it for long tours. It's more of an exception than a norm. That's why they made the rear triangle 115mm wide only. If it was 135mm, me and wife would have been riding it long ago.  biggrin.gif

Oh ya! Akmal Basikal in Bangsar (agent for Rohloff) did try to expand the rear triangle and fit in a Rohloff. He did it but the lock nuts can't sit properly as he widen each side by 10mm and the hanger plate is at an angle.
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I've had two Alfine bikes before. I sold the first one and immediately regretted the decision. Luck was with me and I had the opportunity to buy another identical bike in better condition and cheaper! Thought I wouldn't ever sell but after a year, I couldn't live with that gap in the ratio, which was at my usual speed, meaning as soon as theres a slight headwind, one ratio down was too low and one up was too high......sigh

Never tried Rohloff or NuVinci but these guys are over 2 kilos, just the hub, no joke! Make the back wheel crash through every slightest imperfection on the road. There's a NuVinci hub for sale here and I was considering it for my single speed bike, but the weight put me off.

A 10mm spread each side is doable, but as you said the dropouts needs to be angled back in....tricky. I guess the B was never intended to go touring or be ridden at high speed. It is just that it feels capable that made people want to do more with it. With demand that high, they won't be coming out with a new frame anytime soon!

Sometimes I wonder why we bother modifying foldies. Some of you would have had ridden single speed BMX or regular bikes and I dont recall having missed not having more gears. You would ride to the capability of the bike and accepted the top speed or you get off and push up that hill. The way I ride my single speed is the same. I ride up to the maximum speed, or speed that I'm comfortable at that moment to stick to it, if my legs start to go too fast, I freewheel for a bit, then crank again. If I start pushing it, I'd soon be wishing I had more gears.

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Would like to ask around,
Is it possible to get a 31.6mm seatpost with a length >410mm?
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Don't forget there's also the Bike Friday Tikit.  Mine goes into a Samsonite.
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doesn't cut it, I can't just fold it and throw into the bag.
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That's why brompton has the best package now.
Until dahon curl comes n kick its arse...
The nearest model to it is the jifo n eezz but with cramped cockpit.

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Guys, I am looking for a new 33.9mm seatpost for my dahon bike (max load 100kg and above), any recommendation ? Thanks in advance.
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Guys, I am looking for a new 33.9mm seatpost for my dahon bike (max load 100kg and above), any recommendation ? Thanks in advance.
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Kimbell JAya has stocks of Lite pro 33.9 x 600mm. But light as it is, Lite pros are rated for riders up to 75 kgs only. If you are heavier but not as tall, so the seat post is not adjusted very high you can still use it. Other brands I have seen is Duccas which I used formerly but it is over RM230. Cheaper ones are from GUB but I don't know if Kimbell has it.
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QUOTE(lucifer93 @ Feb 19 2016, 01:20 AM)
Would like to ask around,
Is it possible to get a 31.6mm seatpost with a length >410mm?
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Yes, most seat post have lengths to 400mm. Is the extra 10mm critical? If it is then Thomson has that size you wanted.
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QUOTE(desastar @ Feb 18 2016, 10:22 PM)
I've had two Alfine bikes before.  I sold the first one and immediately regretted the decision.  Luck was with me and I had the opportunity to buy another identical bike in better condition and cheaper!  Thought I wouldn't ever sell but after a year, I couldn't live with that gap in the ratio, which was at my usual speed, meaning as soon as theres a slight headwind, one ratio down was too low and one up was too high......sigh

Never tried Rohloff or NuVinci but these guys are over 2 kilos, just the hub, no joke!  Make the back wheel crash through every slightest imperfection on the road. There's a NuVinci hub for sale here and I was considering it for my single speed bike, but the weight put me off.

A 10mm spread each side is doable, but as you said the dropouts needs to be angled back in....tricky.  I guess the B was never intended to go touring or be ridden at high speed.  It is just that it feels capable that made people want to do more with it.  With demand that high, they won't be coming out with a new frame anytime soon! 

Sometimes I wonder why we bother modifying foldies.  Some of you would have had ridden single speed BMX or regular bikes and I dont recall having missed not having more gears.  You would ride to the capability of the bike and accepted the top speed or you get off and push up that hill.  The way I ride my single speed is the same.  I ride up to the maximum speed, or speed that I'm comfortable at that moment to stick to it, if my legs start to go too fast, I freewheel for a bit, then crank again.  If I start pushing it, I'd soon be wishing I had more gears.

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This is interesting. Why?

For me, when I was foldie biking, riding around KL/PJ becomes boring. Ride to Klang for eats, rides in Putrajaya which I have to go 2 laps to satisfy and Broga. For that my Dahon Eco C7s were enough already. Then we ventured to Parit Buntar to Taiping, Jerantut to Taman Negara, trans Titiwangsa from KKB to Raub and the 7 speed just don't cut it. SO, I started modifications after I tried Genting Peras with my 7 speeders. Me and wife needs 3 HOURS to peak. From there , the Eco C7 went 27 speed and finally all other rides that was mentioned. Why not just buy a bike with that specs?

Did you see the price of a Tern 18 speeder? That 6K plus. The cheapest then was the Dahon Visc which was selling at 2K at that time but I don't like the frame. The KHS 27 speed cost over 3K at that time. Cost is the factor. Not everyone can afford one lump sum to get the bike they wanted. So, we do it in stages. First we go for the rear mods then the front and then components. Off course lah, last time we don't need multiple gears..............in fact I rode around Penang island with a Raleigh Chopper. BUT that was last time lah! Now after so many years , no exercising , no cycling, suddenly we start to ride, the more gears the better lah!

The way you describe is true, riding at your own pace but when you are in a group of 30 riders......sometimes the others may not mind but sub consciously, you feel like an obstacle to them. If the wait is 10 to 30 minutes is fine but when others have to wait like an hour it's a bit of a let down, especially for the sweeper. When we did Jerantut to Taman Negara, there were 33 riders ! It was so hard to control that it fragmented into 5 groups. The first group, checked into their motel at 1.45pm and the rest .... re-assembled in a warong 8 kilometers from the destination in stages. The first group sat there at 3.00 pm and 3, 4, 2 riders starts converging in intervals of 30 minutes. Finally, 4 was un -accounted for rclxub.gif

1 had a crashed and hitch hiked on a gas lorry and er companion accompanied her to the hospital. another 2 had to be rescued. A concerned rider borrowed a moped and rode out and back tracked. Another rider saw it and wanted to pillion ride on it for fun. When they came back, the he came back with another rider (cramped on both legs...hahaa) and the pillion rider rode his Brompton back with the other rider who accompanied him. Wouldn't it be nice if there were more gears? With more gears , you can control your cadence and not overwork but a single speed, you can't. Maybe you can if you stay near the coastal areas where it is flat like the Netherlands.
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Yes, most seat post have lengths to 400mm. Is the extra 10mm critical?  If it is then Thomson has that size you wanted.
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Ok. Thanks for the info. Currently using a 400mm, would prefer a slight increase.
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Ok. Thanks for the info. Currently using a 400mm, would prefer a slight increase.
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If 10 mm is critical, I guess you have a wrong sized frame. I don't know what bike you ride, most probably a mountain bike or the Dahon Dash. Just 10mm, I think you can get away by just clamping slightly below the safe level.

http://bicyclebuysell.com/item/332029/120c...-sl218-seatpost

This one is even 420 mm,
http://bicyclebuysell.com/item/297350/amoe...proven-seatpost
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QUOTE(etigge @ Feb 19 2016, 12:10 PM)
This is interesting. Why? 

For me, when I was foldie biking, riding around KL/PJ becomes boring. Ride to Klang for eats, rides in Putrajaya which I have to go 2 laps to satisfy and Broga. For that my Dahon Eco C7s were enough already. Then we ventured to Parit Buntar to Taiping, Jerantut to Taman Negara, trans Titiwangsa from KKB to Raub and the 7 speed just don't cut it. SO, I started modifications after I tried Genting Peras with my 7 speeders. Me and wife needs 3 HOURS to peak. From there , the Eco C7 went 27 speed and finally all other rides that was mentioned. Why not just buy a bike with that specs?

Did you see the price of a Tern 18 speeder? That 6K plus. The cheapest then was the Dahon Visc which was selling at 2K at that time but I don't like the frame. The KHS 27 speed cost over 3K at that time. Cost is the factor. Not everyone can afford one lump sum to get the bike they wanted. So, we do it in stages. First we go for the rear mods then the front and then components. Off course lah, last time we don't need multiple gears..............in fact I rode around Penang island with a Raleigh Chopper. BUT that was last time lah! Now after so many years , no exercising , no cycling, suddenly we start to ride, the more gears the better lah!

The way you describe is true, riding at your own pace but when you are in a group of 30 riders......sometimes the others may not mind but sub consciously, you feel like an obstacle to them. If the wait is 10 to 30 minutes is fine but when others have to wait like an hour it's a bit of a let down, especially for the sweeper. When we did Jerantut to Taman Negara, there were 33 riders ! It was so hard to control that it fragmented into 5 groups. The first group, checked into their motel at 1.45pm and the rest .... re-assembled in a warong 8 kilometers from the destination in stages. The first group sat there at 3.00 pm and 3, 4, 2 riders starts converging in intervals of 30 minutes. Finally, 4 was un -accounted for  rclxub.gif

1 had a crashed and hitch hiked on a gas lorry and er companion accompanied her to the hospital. another 2 had to be rescued. A concerned rider borrowed a moped and rode out and back tracked. Another rider saw it and wanted to pillion ride on it for fun. When they came back, the he came back with another rider (cramped on both legs...hahaa) and the pillion rider rode his Brompton back with the other rider who accompanied him. Wouldn't it be nice if there were more gears?  With more gears , you can control your cadence and not overwork but a single speed, you can't. Maybe you can if you stay near the coastal areas where it is flat like the Netherlands.
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I guess what I was trying to say is that you buy a foldy knowing its limitation, hence you should ride within the capabilities. I suppose it is also natural that we end trying to make something better! biggrin.gif


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Nobody has mentioned the Birdy. Why is that? No like??

I do like the look of it, but never ridden one. If one comes along at a good price...... rclxm9.gif

Maybe.......
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Nobody has mentioned the Birdy.  Why is that?  No like??

I do like the look of it, but never ridden one.  If one comes along at a good price...... rclxm9.gif

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I have a friend who rides a Tyrell FX and his wife a Birdy. After a while, he sold off the Tyrell to get another Birdy. That's shows the Birdy is better right? Full suspension too! But I kind off put off with the front fork, looks weird. In Pacific Bikes stable, I still prefer the IF Reach, even the older model excites me. But these are not functional bikes , I call them boutique bikes. I serviced a Tyrell FX once and did a few rounds on it and I find the riding geometry not suitable for me. The Dahon Dash or the Performer mininvelo rides better than it. Probably my body's anatomy is wrong for the bike, hahahaa. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(etigge @ Feb 20 2016, 02:58 PM)
I have a friend who rides a Tyrell FX and his wife a Birdy. After a while, he sold off the Tyrell to get another Birdy. That's shows the Birdy is better right?  Full suspension too! But I kind off put off with the front fork, looks weird. In Pacific Bikes stable, I still prefer the IF Reach, even the older model excites me. But these are not functional bikes , I call them boutique bikes. I serviced a Tyrell FX once and did a few rounds on it and I find the riding geometry not suitable for me. The Dahon Dash or the Performer mininvelo rides better than it. Probably my body's anatomy is wrong for the bike, hahahaa.  tongue.gif
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I really don't have a lot of time riding bikes but I enjoy working on them. I like to collect iconic models hence I'm thinking about the Birdy. At first I too hated the front but now I like it. I much prefer the older series. The new one, whilst nice has a softer edge to it.
The only reservation I have is to introduce another wheel size to my collection! 16, 20 then 18? Not that I would go through tyres and tubes quickly though...

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Talking about Bromptons, this lady in UK has 18!!

Thank god I'm normal after all! Hahaha



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QUOTE(desastar @ Feb 21 2016, 08:58 AM)
I really don't have a lot of time riding bikes but I enjoy working on them. I like to collect iconic models hence I'm thinking about the Birdy. At first I too hated the front but now I like it. I much prefer the older series. The new one, whilst nice has a softer edge to it.
The only reservation I have is to introduce another wheel size to my collection!  16, 20 then 18? Not that I would go through tyres and tubes quickly though...
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yesterday story ipoh foldies @ fraser hill

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we start driving from ipoh around 3am in the morning. meetup with our members around da way to south and seafely arrived at Kuala Kubu Baru after morning prayers.

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we park our cars at kuala kubu baru mosque and catch some light & heavy breakfast at one on the only mamak at here.around 9.30am we start our journey.

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after 7km of the way before the dam, my friend faizal had some dizzyness.he get head back down alone as i try to insist escorting him but he refused. he grab his car and we meet up at sg chilling.

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after regroup back with faizal, we continue our journey. my target around 10-15km i had to stop and regroup the others. its hard to take care 20riders on one time.besides everyone had their own paced and rythm climbing.

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after the 1st stop i decided to continue the journey at meet up at the fraser roundabot coz after that we will climb another 8km with pain. after few km we were stopped by a roadbike cyclist named din coz his pump got a problem. he said he just bought the vintage roadbike online from holland and received the bike just two weeks ago!

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as a roadbike user, 1stly i check his wheelset.saw the rimtape a bit old. i suspected the wheeltape as i saw 2 of his tube got problem after he replacing it. we quickly tape the rim with plaster and pump. the tyre a bit problem but it will last the trip.lucky he brings extra tube.

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so we climb up and last stop at this roundabout. we stop nearly one hour as few of us got cramp and injured. some had a refreshment from the shop near.

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after then we start climb, and those 8km really high and few of us had to stop. after 2 hours all of us arrived safely.we stopped for 2 hours and had our lunch.i bough some keychain and fridge magnets as for sourviner

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the crusing down timing is around one and a half hour. the road are bumpy so i cannot get highest top speed, buat after sg chilling waterfall i had a topspeed of 61kmh. not bad for folding bike i can say!

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Thats an awesome ride azamune!!!

Can i join u guys next time, me just beginnerr with cheap foldiee





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Thats an awesome ride azamune!!!

Can i join u guys next time, me just beginnerr with cheap foldiee
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ada abam kepom, long time no see notworthy.gif
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ada abam nod.gif cuma budak baru belajar mcm saya ni mmg banyak membaca je...wah best tgk naik fraser ye..manyak terer woh kaki masing2 notworthy.gif
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kaki tak kuat bro, hati dan jiwa mau kena keras skt baru boleh smpai.jgn mengalah ajer..
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salute notworthy.gif ini hari keroje idak?
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Hi azamune,
It's really nice to see so many foldies going up Fraser hill at the same time. Probably, yours is the biggest foldy that went up.
Are you the organizer, how do you manage such a big group?

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QUOTE(kepompong @ Feb 22 2016, 10:15 AM)
salute notworthy.gif ini hari keroje idak?
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QUOTE(PaulKong @ Feb 22 2016, 03:30 PM)
Hi azamune,
    It's really nice to see so many foldies going up Fraser hill at the same time. Probably, yours is the biggest foldy that went up.
Are you the organizer, how do you manage such a big group?
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err.. this really a hard question actually.
bydwy, i just ask them if they were free.and then they answer by showing up. but before that i promise them that all of them will arrived to the top.dont care about the time you take to climb, the picture up there is more valueable.

as for organizing this trip,
yes i had to stop few time in oder to regroup with them. when stop i let them rest for a while, bring some medics to insist them.i dont stop motivate until the end.thats the only key for they success!

bydaway,
i will organizing ipoh foldies open day this year also.just wait for the announcement. usually after hari raya. i like to create event especially involved foldies. we always heard there an event for roadbikes (century ride, fellowshipride) and also mtb (jamboree) but we never heard about folding events.so why not i create an event specially for foldies?

the key point in a group we do share the same interest. yes i do admit in big groups there were some people trying to be a leader. i just let them to create an event and support back.foldies are small community, why not we unite our same interest?
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i would really like to join you in your organize ride. Do keep us inform 😄😄😄
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QUOTE(PaulKong @ Feb 22 2016, 11:03 PM)
i would really like to join you in your organize ride. Do keep us inform 😄😄😄
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sure can. will info here as well
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Good day all,

Anyone is joining RHB Lekas night ride? There's 102km and 78km. I just wonder is there any Foldies are joining this event.
Here's the link
http://www.gosportz.my

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my geometri and it fits well..tq Alex Moulton ..
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foldie from melaka will luv to join u too sifu azam

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QUOTE(PaulKong @ Feb 23 2016, 01:00 PM)
Good day all,

Anyone is joining RHB Lekas night ride? There's 102km and 78km. I just wonder is there any Foldies are joining this event.
Here's the link
http://www.gosportz.my
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last time i cycle on the penang 2nd bridge very very boring and and i need to think twice for this event.on a highway u cant see any good view as ur reward in cycling..

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foldie from melaka will luv to join u too sifu azam
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My friend bought an FSIR folding bike, he likes it so much that he is poisoning me everyday....damnnn
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my geometri and it fits well..tq Alex Moulton ..
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So, how do you like your TSR? Which model is that?
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So, how do you like your TSR?  Which model is that?
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well done...my group did malacca-muar-malacca last sunday too...
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last time i cycle on the penang 2nd bridge very very boring and and i need to think twice for this event.on a highway u cant see any good view as ur reward in cycling..
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You are right. It's actually a race event. Don't think it's suitable for folding bikes 😂😂😂
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My friend bought an FSIR folding bike, he likes it so much that he is poisoning me everyday....damnnn
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You are right. It's actually a race event. Don't think it's suitable for folding bikes 😂😂😂
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the last shimano highway ride, there was alot of foldies, they give u up to 5 hours to finish biggrin.gif
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the last shimano highway ride, there was alot of foldies, they give u up to 5 hours to finish  biggrin.gif
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Are you going then? 😁😁😁
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probably yes, cos 1st time for me, but i will be using road bike instead of foldie  biggrin.gif
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I've been doing research and test riding Tyrell IVE for few weeks and finally I bought it last week 😁😁😁
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Congrats Paul!

With so many foldies on the market, that must have been a difficult decision? Maybe not?

From the pic, that's the road leading up to the water tanks up the hill? I ride up there everytime I'm there just to make sure I haven't gone weaker with age! haha
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I've been doing research and test riding Tyrell IVE for few weeks and finally I bought it last week 😁😁😁
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QUOTE(desastar @ Feb 26 2016, 12:43 PM)
Congrats Paul!

With so many foldies on the market, that must have been a difficult decision?  Maybe not?

From the pic, that's the road leading up to the water tanks up the hill?  I ride up there everytime I'm there just to make sure I haven't gone weaker with age!  haha
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It was love at first sight.. Really like the idea of non folding frame that Tyrell came out with. I was more like finding reason not to buy it than buying it. The more I learn about Tyrell, the more I like the brand. All Tyrell bikes are made in Japan and the finishes are superb. It's dna are more towards performance, that's why even though IVE are made for commute, it's still have the performance heritage in it.
You are right, that's the road leading up to the water tank. First time trying out hill climbing. It didn't disappoint me. 😄😄😄


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QUOTE(PaulKong @ Feb 26 2016, 06:41 PM)
It was love at first sight.. Really like the idea of non folding frame that Tyrell came out with. I was more like finding reason not to buy it than buying it. The more I learn about Tyrell, the more I like the brand. All Tyrell bikes are made in Japan and the finishes are superb. It's dna are more towards performance, that's why even though IVE are made for commute, it's still have the performance heritage in it.
You are right, that's the road leading up to the water tank. First time trying out hill climbing. It didn't disappoint me. 😄😄😄
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Your legs must be stronger than mine. I was on my old MTB and the very last corner to the steepest part, I would have been on the lowest gear and just makes it to the top before I collapse, hahahaha

That fold is very similar to the Birdy, but I'm sure your chain doesn't fall off! I am considering the Birdy but that chain dropping must be a pain in the bum. That IVE does certainly look well built.
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QUOTE(desastar @ Feb 26 2016, 07:49 PM)
Your legs must be stronger than mine.  I was on my old MTB and the very last corner to the steepest part, I would have been on the lowest gear and just makes it to the top before I collapse, hahahaha

That fold is very similar to the Birdy, but I'm sure your chain doesn't fall off!  I am considering the Birdy but that chain dropping must be a pain in the bum. That IVE does certainly look well built.
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I'm not strong, I was pushing myself up too. But I felt I can deliver the power to the bike easier with IVE, therefore even with 53/30, I still manage to ride up the last bit of the hill. 😁😁😁
Before you fold IVE, you need to put the gear in middle of the cassette, then the chain will be tight. If you leave it in the smallest cog, the chain will be loose but it have not drop off either.
I have tried birdy too, feels solid and nice too but I just don't like the look of the front fork. I didn't know the chain will always come off, though.

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I think that would be probably right. 😄😄😄
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van's cycle provide support car if you join them for cycling events...
you should check with them, biggrin.gif

this sunday there is konvoi hari wilayah 40km in putrajaya,
good time to test out your brand new IVE.. rclxms.gif
if you don't mind cycling with thousands other cyclist biggrin.gif

its free, but if u like lucky draw n free food, the have to reg ( FOC)

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foldie oso can mar...
if wana go fast then must be kuat....  biggrin.gif


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One day I'll try lah! Climbing hills means pulling on the handlebar and that P bar flexes so much. Got rid of mine!
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QUOTE(PaulKong @ Feb 26 2016, 11:36 PM)
I'm not strong, I was pushing myself up too. But I felt I can deliver the power to the bike easier with IVE, therefore even with 53/30, I still manage to ride up the last bit of the hill. 😁😁😁
Before you fold IVE, you need to put the gear in middle of the cassette, then the chain will be tight. If you leave it in the smallest cog, the chain will be loose but it have not drop off either.
I have tried birdy too, feels solid and nice too but I just don't like the look of the front fork. I didn't know the chain will always come off, though.
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53/30....sounds like two distinct sets of ratios, pretty big gap. It's not a road bike I guess. Yes I agree the front is ugly, but that is what's drawing me to it. Weird huh? doh.gif

I'll PM you one day when I'm there. I'll try and bring one foldy back with me.
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QUOTE(desastar @ Feb 27 2016, 06:32 AM)
53/30....sounds like two distinct sets of ratios, pretty big gap. It's not a road bike I guess. Yes I agree the front is ugly, but that is what's drawing me to it. Weird huh?  doh.gif

I'll PM you one day when I'm there. I'll try and bring one foldy back with me.
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I think Paul is saying that he used 53 T in front and 30T at the rear. As far as I know, you can't shift that much difference in gap. Also, I have tried putting double chainrings on a foldable Tyrell, it's tricky. Only the CX, the non foldable ones has multiple chainrings. icon_rolleyes.gif

PS/ Also, I don;t think there's a30 T chainring with 130BCD in the market, is there? hmm.gif

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H2D,

I'm joining tomorrow hari wilayah. Tomorrow will be more of a leisure ride than pushing the bike limit.

Desastar,

What I mean is when going up, I'm using the biggest cog @30t, there's only one chainring at the front which is 53

Etigge,

Yes, that's what I mean 😁😁😁
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I think Paul is saying that he used 53 T in front and 30T at the rear. As far as I know, you can't shift that much difference in gap. Also, I have tried putting double chainrings on a foldable Tyrell, it's tricky. Only the CX, the non foldable ones has multiple chainrings. icon_rolleyes.gif

PS/ Also, I don;t think there's a30 T chainring with 130BCD in the market, is there? hmm.gif
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Hahaha silly me, just assumed Paul was talking about chainrings. That's why I thought it was strange. Still a newbie here lah!

I definitely won't be able to do 53/30 up that last bit of hill!

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QUOTE(desastar @ Feb 27 2016, 11:31 AM)
Hahaha silly me, just assumed Paul was talking about chainrings. That's why I thought it was strange. Still a newbie here lah!

I definitely won't be able to do 53/30 up that last bit of hill!
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Which last bit you are referring? To the round about or nearing the water tank? I'm only did to the round about 😅😅
Yeah, pls pm me when you are back here, we can ride around park city. 😄😄😄
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QUOTE(desastar @ Feb 27 2016, 11:31 AM)
Hahaha silly me, just assumed Paul was talking about chainrings. That's why I thought it was strange. Still a newbie here lah!

I definitely won't be able to do 53/30 up that last bit of hill!
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If speed is not the ultimate criteria, can always go for the compact crank which is 110 BCD and that size have 50T chainrings or use mtb cranks that can hold 48T chainrings that touring bikes use. In cycling, the ultimate goal is ,
no. 1 , destination, no. 2 , level of fun and no. 3 , speed. Off course, all those must accumulate to calories burnt.

When I rode Fraser's Hill, I done that 5 to 6 times already with 2 to the peak and the rest till Gap Junction, I always take a bet with my wife on who will we meet at Gap and who we will not see. Many we see, all pumped up from KKB to the dam and that we guess will never reach. Hahahaaa. True, we see them zooming downhill even before we reach the waterfall. we need to know the terrain well and also we have to space out our energy, like budgeting money. tongue.gif Also,for those who never tried there, you should. It's a good place to ride. Peaceful and cool. Less or sometimes NO traffic thumbup.gif

Don't worry about whether you will reach or not. If you don't try, you won't know how far you can go. Start from Sg.Chilling, not KKB. Park your car just after the bridge as there's a stall there. Someone to look after the car.Start the ride and ride as far as possible. Until you drop! Then downhill down back to the car. Sooner or later, you will reach the top eventually and then finally after that, start from KKB.
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QUOTE(PaulKong @ Feb 27 2016, 11:39 AM)
Which last bit you are referring? To the round about or nearing the water tank? I'm only did to the round about 😅😅
Yeah, pls pm me when you are back here, we can ride around park city. 😄😄😄
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ICIC.... no, you need to continue from there all the way up to the fence! biggrin.gif

Let me train hard for the next few months then i contact you? hahahaha!
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QUOTE(etigge @ Feb 27 2016, 12:20 PM)
If speed is not the ultimate criteria, can always go for the compact crank  which is 110 BCD and that size have 50T chainrings or use mtb cranks that can hold 48T chainrings that touring bikes use.  In cycling, the ultimate goal is ,
no. 1 , destination, no. 2 , level of fun and no. 3 , speed. Off course, all those must accumulate to calories burnt.

When I rode Fraser's Hill, I done that 5 to 6 times already with 2 to the peak and the rest till Gap Junction, I always take a bet with my wife on who will we meet at Gap and who we will not see. Many we see, all pumped up from KKB to the dam and that we guess will never reach. Hahahaaa. True, we see them zooming downhill even before we reach the waterfall. we need to know the terrain well and also we have to space out our energy, like budgeting money. tongue.gif  Also,for those who never tried there, you should. It's a good place to ride. Peaceful and cool. Less or sometimes NO traffic thumbup.gif

Don't worry about whether you will reach or not. If you don't try, you won't know how far you can go. Start from Sg.Chilling, not KKB. Park your car just after the bridge as there's a stall there. Someone to look after the car.Start the ride and ride as far as possible. Until you drop! Then downhill down back to the car. Sooner or later, you will reach the top eventually and then finally after that, start from KKB.
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You are right. I don't try to beat speed records anyway, prefer touring speed. What I suffer most would be the M'sian sun and heat. I've done a 45km MTB ride once and nearly died from heat stroke, hahaha.

If Fraser's Hill ride is cool. maybe I'll try if there's a group going one day. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(desastar @ Feb 27 2016, 01:09 PM)
You are right.  I don't try to beat speed records anyway, prefer touring speed.  What I suffer most would be the M'sian sun and heat. I've done a 45km MTB ride once and nearly died from heat stroke, hahaha.

If Fraser's Hill ride is cool. maybe I'll try if there's a group going one day.  biggrin.gif
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Between road riding and offroad riding, offroad is endurance! Roadies are into speed and the peak performance. One can only get used to only one training. So, you cannot equate 45km offroad to 45km on road. On road riding, one only needs to concentrate more on peaking your performance as the roads are even where else on off road riding, a lot of other skills are needed. You have to concentrate on the line of ride, avoiding ruts, rocks and roots. This itself is sometimes too consuming for riders. Then the balancing skills and getting into tight spaces and finally the hilly terrain which needs a lot of low gear cranking and grinding.

It is not to say road riding is easier either because road riding is stressful, really stressful. Many roadies are competitive and it gets even more stressful. Off course one can say, I will just ride slow but riding in a group sometimes
drives your adrenaline high because of your peers and many try to be equal or catch up and this is disaster for those not used to it.

Most important I think is the clique you are riding with, even with foldies. Sometimes you get riders who makes a nuisance of themselves. We used to have one who always gets lost and don't want to stay with the pack and the leader and sweeper have to go all around hunting him. He could have seen something nice and sat a while reminiscing his grandmother because he saw a chicken by the roadside and that to him is why he rides, so all the others have to wait for him. While we appreciate his sentimentality, he was not thinking of others. At the same note, we also have people who organize but not taking care of their charge and sometimes just leave early. Yes, I have seen that, honestly. Hahahaaa.

My point is, riding 45 km offroad is actually very tough. I can ride Kampar to Sitiawan and ride 12 hours and still can sit down for a beer but after doing 35 km with the KLMBH here, I really wanted to take their chicken loop and go home earlier. Hahahaa. I am in the midst of organizing a ride into the jungles, from Kuala Tembeling to Kuala Lipis area. All done in the jungles. Maybe you want to join me? We ride for a day then set camp (organizers will be in 4WD and set camp and prepare food) and then ride another day and return by long boats along Sungai Jelai. This is not a jamboree or race. More of a fellowship off road ride , enjoying nature at it's best. Slow, doesn't matter if the slowest is slower than a sloth. Hahahaha. icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(desastar @ Feb 27 2016, 12:41 PM)
ICIC.... no,  you need to continue from there all the way up to the fence!  biggrin.gif

Let me train hard for the next few months then i contact you?  hahahaha!
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No need to train hard la... Just leisure ride will do. I've come to a state, if I can't ride up, I'll push the bike. I used to be very concerned about it last time, that's why I was only looking for 2 chainring for my bike. 😄😄😄
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QUOTE(etigge @ Feb 27 2016, 01:59 PM)
Between road riding and offroad riding, offroad is endurance! Roadies are into speed and the peak performance. One can only get used to only one training. So, you cannot equate 45km offroad to 45km on road. On road riding, one only needs to concentrate more on peaking your performance as the roads are even where else on off road riding, a lot of other skills are needed. You have to concentrate on the line of ride, avoiding ruts, rocks and roots. This itself is sometimes too consuming for riders. Then the balancing skills and getting into tight spaces and finally the hilly terrain which needs a lot of low gear cranking and grinding.

It is not to say road riding is easier either because road riding is stressful, really stressful. Many roadies are competitive and it gets even more stressful. Off course one can say, I will just ride slow but riding in a group sometimes
drives your adrenaline high because of your peers and many try to be equal or catch up and this is disaster for those not used to it.

Most important I think is the clique you are riding with, even with foldies. Sometimes you get riders who makes a nuisance of themselves. We used to have one who always gets lost and don't want to stay with the pack and the leader and sweeper have to go all around hunting him. He could have seen something nice and sat a while reminiscing his grandmother because he saw a chicken by the roadside and that to him is why he rides, so all the others have to wait for him. While we appreciate his sentimentality, he was not thinking of others. At the same note, we also have people who organize but not taking care of their charge and sometimes just leave early. Yes, I have seen that, honestly. Hahahaaa.

My point is, riding 45 km offroad is actually very tough. I can ride Kampar to Sitiawan and ride 12 hours and still can sit down for a beer but after doing 35 km with the KLMBH here, I really wanted to take their chicken loop and go home earlier. Hahahaa. I am in the midst of organizing a ride into the jungles, from Kuala Tembeling to Kuala Lipis area. All done in the jungles. Maybe you want to join me?  We ride for a day then set camp (organizers will be in 4WD and set camp and prepare food) and then ride another day and return by long boats along Sungai Jelai. This is not a jamboree or race. More of a fellowship off road ride , enjoying nature at it's best. Slow, doesn't matter if the slowest is slower than a sloth. Hahahaha.  icon_rolleyes.gif
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Before I join any group riding, I always make sure what's their avg km/h. If it matches my speed, than only I'll join. It's no fun trying to catch up and stressing yourself. I don't mind to wait up for slower speed though 😁😁😁
When first started, a KLCFD 7km looks like a big leap. After been riding over half a year, anything less than 20km, you feel like not riding at all.
I've not try mtb yet, it really sound like a lot of fun 👍🏻👍🏻

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QUOTE(etigge @ Feb 27 2016, 01:59 PM)
Between road riding and offroad riding, offroad is endurance! Roadies are into speed and the peak performance. One can only get used to only one training. So, you cannot equate 45km offroad to 45km on road. On road riding, one only needs to concentrate more on peaking your performance as the roads are even where else on off road riding, a lot of other skills are needed. You have to concentrate on the line of ride, avoiding ruts, rocks and roots. This itself is sometimes too consuming for riders. Then the balancing skills and getting into tight spaces and finally the hilly terrain which needs a lot of low gear cranking and grinding.

It is not to say road riding is easier either because road riding is stressful, really stressful. Many roadies are competitive and it gets even more stressful. Off course one can say, I will just ride slow but riding in a group sometimes
drives your adrenaline high because of your peers and many try to be equal or catch up and this is disaster for those not used to it.

Most important I think is the clique you are riding with, even with foldies. Sometimes you get riders who makes a nuisance of themselves. We used to have one who always gets lost and don't want to stay with the pack and the leader and sweeper have to go all around hunting him. He could have seen something nice and sat a while reminiscing his grandmother because he saw a chicken by the roadside and that to him is why he rides, so all the others have to wait for him. While we appreciate his sentimentality, he was not thinking of others. At the same note, we also have people who organize but not taking care of their charge and sometimes just leave early. Yes, I have seen that, honestly. Hahahaaa.

My point is, riding 45 km offroad is actually very tough. I can ride Kampar to Sitiawan and ride 12 hours and still can sit down for a beer but after doing 35 km with the KLMBH here, I really wanted to take their chicken loop and go home earlier. Hahahaa. I am in the midst of organizing a ride into the jungles, from Kuala Tembeling to Kuala Lipis area. All done in the jungles. Maybe you want to join me?  We ride for a day then set camp (organizers will be in 4WD and set camp and prepare food) and then ride another day and return by long boats along Sungai Jelai. This is not a jamboree or race. More of a fellowship off road ride , enjoying nature at it's best. Slow, doesn't matter if the slowest is slower than a sloth. Hahahaha.  icon_rolleyes.gif
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Thanks for the invite sifu. My stars will all have to align to have that opportunity. Maybe when I know I'll be back for a while, I'll let you know. Sound like fun though.
If you like that sort of ride you should come over and do the Munda Biddi trail south of Perth. Look it up. Got to do it in stages but best section in around Pemberton. Self supported and huts available along the way. Best time to do it Autumn or late winter, early spring.

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