Hmmm... 60T chainring? Are you sure? How big are your legs??

That little bike with the 70T chainring is just crazy. I don't get it..... Say you can get it to 30-35kmh, it will be like why?? LOL

Thank you for your interest, my beautiful yellow Brompton is sold to a nice lady.

What should I buy now.......?


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Wow, side by side, the 451s are quite a bit larger eh? Where's a good place to get a nice set of 451 in KL?

Bro, where did you buy yours? S'pore?

I have a feeling that the V brakes will need to be modified and the mudguards won't fit. Need to think if it is worth doing....

I dont think there is such a thing as "king of folding" bike If it suits you, that's your "king"

I one folding I haven't tried is the Birdy. If an opportunity arises, maybe? I may even buy a Speed P8 if a mint one comes along and the price is right. Don't ask me what for....

hence I don't understand why you would buy a Mit, Merc or Flamingo. It will never be a Brompton and you will always feel cheated! hahaha, sorry

Absolutely, but I don't like the fact that it looks like the real thing when it's not. Perhaps some manufacturers should produce a bolt-on after-market rear triangle that is standard 130mm. That would be a better direction rather than copying someone's design.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not defending Brompton here. I just hate the fact that its design is copied, so that's nothing clever about it, ie no improvement to the original concept. If it is something different, hey I'm interested!

Yes, pity the modified triangle is so expensive. Now, only if someone copies that rear triangle and offer that at a reasonable price.......

What I would also say is, stick to the popular brand and you have a good chance of recovering the price you paid. The higher your initial cost the more you will lose of course. Buyers will want something for nothing, so you just need to decide what is a fair price for you and stick to it.
So what should you get? I would go for higher end models but secondhand. If you are patient and able to wait, you will pick up one. Hard part is there will always be competition Decide what riding you will do as you may not need so many gears. Will a foldable bike do what you want to do?
As for upgrading, sifu is right. You can always swap the good parts back out before you sell and keep for next bike.

Yes, I like the look of the Eezz too. The wheelbase looks a little short though, so might be a bit twitchy? 30kms? Hmmm

The size of the wheels will put me off riding it. Not too many places you can ride that safely. Maybe good for KLIA2, hahaha

I've just picked this up. A 2011 Dahon Speed TR. I was deciding between a Speed P8 and this, very similar price. I figured you are getting so much more for your dollar with the TR.

Sram Dual Drive which I really like.
Very adjustable handlebar stem.
Biologic dynamo front hub
Seatpost pump
Full racks
Ergon grips
Kinetic rims
MKS detachable pedals

But.....it is heavy. I can easily lose 2 kgs, but I will leave it the way it is for now. It has done some kms judging by the wear of the back tyre, but incredibly, the bike is flawless, no paint damage etc.

I rode a couple of kms back home and it felt like a big bike due to the weight. The gears all changed smoothly. Might have to tighten the clamps, adjust the hubs and headset, but other than that, all good!

Any TR fans out there?

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When I say not safe, I mean the wheels, being so small, will get caught easily. Broken pavement, potholes, etc. If you are cruising you can easily get thrown off!

Yes, this is probably rare, but I think it was sold in M'sia, if I'm not wrong it was around RM4500.

If I tell you what I paid for it, I will have to kill you, hahahaha!

Yes, bought here in Oz for A$600.

The Speed TR in exactly the same specs can be found in M'sia, at least on the internet. There was a review done by the chap named Sam Cheong. Probably didn't sell too many due to the high price. Same here in Oz.

Thanks Sifu. I believe these were the last Dahons made in Taiwan? The only thing missing is the Reecharge power pack that you can charge your phone with.

Yes, it has the Biologic dynamo hub. I guess it must create some drag but not that noticeably.

I had a Speed D7 previously and it has the same cromoly frame, but no frills. Still a good riding bike. The D8 is the latest version of the Speed. Looks like they've dropped the P8, and I think the Archer is closer in spec to the P8. Sifu can confirm.

The Speed TR is simply the touring version and has the SRAM dual drive hub and racks, and a lot of
other nice extras. Nothing really to upgrade.

Now that Dahons are Chinese made, I wonder if there are any noticeable differences in quality?

Good to hear the Chinese Dahon are good quality. Yes the TRs seems to be fairly rare. I'll keep it until I run out of room again! If only all folding bikes are this good!!




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Sure, will let you know first, although this will be tricky bringing with me on the plane. Hey maybe I can visit you in Ipoh and go for a ride! Never been there.

Can you get the Mu P24 there? Should be the same gearing but alloy frame, which some people prefer because it is a little lighter.

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Quick question, where can I buy a good headset for the Dahon in KL? Are the Litepro ones genuine? Haha