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http://www.australia.gov.au/information-an...ation-and-visas

work portal
http://www.workingin-australia.com/

Yay first!

Yay second and thanks Geminist for reply in the previous thread.

Following

has been hearing this since years ago and yet still repeating

has been hearing it since 2011

Hi all,

I am currently applying for GSM in Australia, most probably subclass 189, as a chef. According to DIBP website, https://www.border.gov.au/Trav/Visa-1/189-, I am short of 5 points to reach 60 points. As far as i'm concerned, I have 2 options to increase the points. the first option would be to retake the IELTS and score 7.0 on all modules for 10 points (i've got 5.5 listening (hearing impairment), 8.0 reading, 6.5 writing and 6.0 for speaking. I took the IELTS in University of Canberra in August 2015.)
The second option would be to get the Certificate 4 in Cookery ( under SOL) (10 points) and get the cert recognized by TRA (10 points) (cost about AUD$300.). That would be 20 points total.

FYI, last 2013, I planned to get PR under cook SOL. so, I had studied Commercial Cookery and lived in Canberra for about 2 1/2 years under student visa. however, they have changed and updated the SOL last July this year (Cook was no longer in the SOL list), hence I'm in a bit of predicament at the moment. That is why I consider applying for Chef instead. Unfortunately, I have to return to Malaysia as my student visa had expired.
I am still keeping in touch with migration agent based in Sydney (recommended by my College Principal and Employer from National Gallery of Australia) to look at my case.
I have sent all of my document to the agent last week (including IELTS, work experience, qualification, blah blah). So, I am expecting something from them this week.
Just wondering, what is the chance of me getting PR? Any idea?

Meanwhile, at the bottom, are the limited info I have from Canberra.

Based on my stay in Canberra, as a cook and kitchenhand:-
- Canberra is a bit similar like Putrajaya, it is rare to get into traffic jam.

- The 4 seasons are somewhat bearable, especially during winter (very cold, but not as cold as Snowy mountain) and summer (not as hot as WA). Spring and Fall seasons are the best

- the pay per hour ranged from $ 18 to $23 per hour. $36 per hour on the weekend, and $41 per hour public holiday.
- Job wise, lack of work experience= difficult to get job. Even if got job, will get about $15 per hour or less.

- Since I owned a car Mitsubishi Mirage 2013, road registration fee can reach up to $900 per year. The price for petrol 98 was at $ 1. 20 per litre. last I checked was in September 21st, before I left. AND, beware of Kangaroo while driving! That fellas love to simply hop on the road like kamikazi. I knocked down one of them last July, in an apparent hit and run, except it was kangaroo that hit and run (prolly run to nearby bush). My car got minor wreck and deemed not road worthy based on smashed headlight and signals.

Background is E&E engineering but my experience is on product management, product development and project management.

I don't mind starting from scratch but need to know if there's other options with my MBA too.

Momentum is picking up here

slowly started could get worse

Just a quick check ... If a graduate from Engineering and been worked for 10 years, but only 4 years in Engineering field, how the PR point being calculated?

depends... you need to send all relevant docs to EA for a proper assessment...
and at most you can only claim 15 point for work experience outside of Australia which is 8 years in your field of study

If global recession hits, Msia and many countries would be affected as well.

"Global" means the whole world, not those working in australia who will be affected. Lol

What are your plans for the rainy days ahead?

How come you're here if you don't intend to migrate/ think some of us 'are kow-towing' to the white man.

Seriously, I'm curious. This thread is mainly for those who seek information about working in Aus, maybe even help with documents for migration and such. From what I gather, you do not intend to do either, so what exactly are you trying to prove.

I have a life and then some, thanks.

Look it was just a question. Don't get your panties up in a bunch.

Moving along now...

If u meant baba vanga...there are sources on the internet saying that people who are close to her such as her neighbours says that she never predicted about world war 3 and most of the things circulating on the Internet. These stuffs circulating on the net are tarnishing her reputation.

This post has been edited by evieta: Nov 19 2015, 02:24 AM

Are u a troll?

All fine for you to believe in Baba Vanga and what not, but pls spread yr beliefs in another clairvoyant/paranormal forum.

As others have said a global recession will affect every1, not only Ozzie.
M'sia won't escape either.

Anyway I will go on, as many other ppl will, living and working in Oz.
If one can find and keep a mid level professional job, one can still IMHO sustain quite a decent lifestyle.

As if you have millions

I guess he just wants to show off the "millions" he thinks he has. lol
Else just another of those who failed to migrate and keeps saying that Aus is not good, I met people like that during my migration journey, but just a minority.
I know people who are rich and successful but he certainly doesn't seem like one of them, the way his logic works

But I want to say I am here for the lifestyle and not money really can live quite comfortably with a mid range job.

This post has been edited by azrb.com: Nov 19 2015, 05:54 AM

Didn't apply then why bother coming into this thread?

no need la please, ask for what..

from what you've been saying here, just tell ur friend no need migrate stay home better.

Good so now, u can leave this topic alone

This post has been edited by jianh: Nov 19 2015, 09:56 AM

congratz on v2 but sorry, can't help putting this here

been hearing this since 2008

WA got hit with commodity downturn.

https://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/a/3007425...s-13-year-high/

A tips, dont believe all the ABS data about national employment. It`s too good to be true in reality.

For those who don't know why bro RO Player come to this thread, he has a "lady friend" who boast about good life in Australia. He butthurt (sorry for the /k lingo) and started a thread in kopitiam which lasted 20+ pages. Don't know why he is so affected by his lady friend's comment if he is so successful in malaysia

https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3755274

Ok, let's move on

quote unquote "friend"

Some girl burned him lah, so he's butt hurt.

Thats why I asked, why even come here if you're gonna spew negativity. Every thread about Aus migration/ jobs etc, he seems to have a negative perception, padahal he's not even thinking of migrating because it means 'we are kow-towing' to the white man.

SMH seriously. Malas already with the fella. Trollus maximus

+100000000

'Earning USD', 'more than you ever will'.

If that is not an arrogant sod for you, I don't know what is.

Ain't nobody got time for trolls lah, seriously.

This thread is to HELP others. We SHARE valuable info, and try to HELP each other.

You, on the other hand hijack our thread, and then troll. Seriously dude. SERIOUSLY.


Maybe a mod should step in about now. Coz honestly, I realise most of us do not tolerate such negative, demeaning behaviour.

So true. Like who the f cares if you have millions of bonds & butthurt about somebody else?

okay guys & gals.. Back to meaningful discussion please

don't go okay

Embrace yourself for summer, it's getting hot!

So I've heard! Strangely enough, I'm looking forward to some beach days with icy cold waters.

Hey Eric, you might want to consider to apply for state sponsorship for that.
pro: additional 5 marks if apply visa 190
con: u have to stay 2 years in the state who sponsor you

Alternatively, get a partner/dependent which is also on the SOL list and she can give you additional 5 points too.

But you might want to try IELTS in Malaysia again which i personally think that it is easier compared to aussy one.

You don't have to stay in the state that sponsors you. I have a 190. I know many people who have a 190 who don't lve int eh state that sponsored them.

If you don't live in the state they set for you then will it count towards to 2 years you have to fulfill? They do not mind as long as it's in anywhere in Aus?

Will they come find you after your 5 years stint and send you back?

Yes it counts, as long as you spend a cumulative 2 years there. Doesn't have to be consecutive.

Border is not bothered about where you live. I've asked people, asked the agents who handled my visa. No issues whatsoever. Once you get a PR, as long as you've spent 2 out of the 5 years, you'll be eligible for an RRV. Anyway after 4 years of residence you're eligible for Citizenship.

Yeah. Agree.

you are coming back early?

nexona88 you have the delete button for the thread. Exercise your rights.
thank you. I`m quite eye sore reading crap that have no relevancy to this thread.

Precisely. Come here showing off his wealth non-stop then belittling other people just because he's butthurt about somebody else and we have absolutely nothing to do with it.

Look at 'dat insecurity.

Move on.

Here is not /k/.

If one have issue with others; keep it where it is and don't pollute the thread with irrelevant nonsense. Some did share their story about it didn't work out coming to Australia. But hey!; is it relevant to said something when one have not been here?

empire23Geminist can you please step in mate.

This post has been edited by KVReninem: Nov 20 2015, 09:40 AM

sorry. I don't see any deleted button.

only in /k have it

nvm. upper hand got tag.

i think people here get the idea of reading your book

What bias you are looking at.
I`m referring to particular posts that make no sense here.

Reason are as follow.

1. If you have not been here; please don't paint a picture that you know well. Like the book said.
2. There`s pro and cons. Not all grass is greener on the other side. You are entitled to choose which side you like to be in.
3. Please read what the comments said about the writer of the book.

Well, why don't share your story of what didn't work out.

This post has been edited by KVReninem: Nov 20 2015, 12:56 PM

Well. Here`s a sad case you don't know.

Been here; usually those job like accountants / professionals as mentioned on previous thread. They are oversupplied.

It clearly stated its your own fault to begin with.

I have friends who migrated over and got in same shoe as you. But I told them; you got a choice.

You go back; you are just wasted the time and resources.

Australia is not for everyone. Even the Brits/China/European mate said it them-self.

Its your choice.

That's very common for those who migrate there. Be prepared to start from the bottom. If you are a manager in KL, don't expect to get the similar position there.

Also, for the rest of the forumers in this thread, if you see anyone trolling in this thread (or this part of the forum), please make use of the report button.

I actually feel that even people who tried and gone back have nothing to lose. At least they gain some experience. There is nothing to be ashame about coming and leaving though.

This post has been edited by evieta: Nov 20 2015, 03:05 PM

That is reason you make a collective(informed) choice. I know how hard it is to actually leave Malaysia. But once you got over it; you will see it as just a small part of a bigger thing.

After all, Australia is becoming more like Malaysia but with more diversity.

Do consider about it require resource, time and adaptation. If one still undecided. Its better to just come here and experience by travelling.

I absolutely get what you mean.
Whether a person will succeed would depend on his desire to stay in Aust. Most Malaysians prefer the comfort of having a stable office job and will not accept the idea of changing to do something different, learn a skill to take up trades job.

Settling down in Australia could take years.. Some people take up to 5 years to settle. I am also still settling but I am really happy here and love being here.

that`s one reason, if you read the previous thread. Lower your expectation on the jobs you get.

I met a lot people with good qualification`s and expertise. But they rather chose job like like cleaning; waiters, trade services and most because they know. Its less demanding and why stuck up to so much upper "professional" and tax.

easy money too. But just how you endure it.

I`m glad you are happy. Because that matter in quality of life here.


This post has been edited by KVReninem: Nov 20 2015, 03:15 PM

how's retirement going to be in Aussie? since there's quality of life, i presume people live longer too?

and Centrelink gives out some money but its barely enough to put food on the table

subjective question.

Heard stories of retiree`s not having enough saving due to government`s policy. Its hard to gauge. But retiring here is not the best option if you are not easily contented with basic.

Live longer/Aging population are a liability to Australia government. On the other side; its their policy that need to change and they have good support that need to be revamp.

It is hard to fix all their issues. But hey; that's the purpose of migrants like us.

You dont wish to be in Japan shoe.

can please suggest to management to have delete button for this part of the forum

thanks

i know Singapore's retirement is screwed, so i'd like to know also how much better is Aussie...

that's the purpose... if i'm those who are looking at a proper migration and not just working, saving and retiring in Malaysia... how doable is it in Aussie? please share your experience if possible :

Unfortunately I don't think they will do so. As there will be those that will abuse the function.

So for now, just make use of the report button.

Summary: I noticed alot Singaporean crossing over here.

On doable: As far I can say. Come when you are young. Not when you are 50s. There is a cut off and the older you get the harder to "adapt" due to culture difference. Your kids may be better for it.

Malaysia is not worst after all. It just the half-wit going on.

This post has been edited by KVReninem: Nov 20 2015, 03:51 PM

If you dont mind me asking which state 190 you applied for?

i'm currently applying 190 for WA. We actually need to sign a form stating you agree to stay 2 year in WA, agree for home visit and survey from the states at least once every 6 months and whatsoever...
So i always thought we have to oblige and stay 2 years T.T

SA.

Sign a form? Didn't know there's such a thing. Have heard of the surveys, but those can be easily ignored as they're via email.


Anyway WA is not bad lah, I lived there for 2 years. It's warmer than Vic/ NSW, so that's a plus. And if you ever want to fly back to KL for a holiday, flights are cheaper.

This post has been edited by daylight_dancer: Nov 20 2015, 10:28 PM

Yes, the State Nomination Agreement thingy!!
It state that you agree to remain living and working in WA for the first 2 years and agree to register your address with the WA govt and keep them informed your contact details. Somemore got registration survey, settlement survey etc. Then proof of funds also...
I guess every state have different requirement then.

Yea WA is quite good in a sense that it is nearer to Msia. But summer in WA is killing...41 celcius in the day and 16 at night...

That not bad lah, it's not 41 every day. Some days 44, and Once in a while it'll drop to 28, 25. Nights are nice and cool. 16 is lovely.

Yea SA not so annoying. Not at all. I know ACT also ask for proof of funds. Thank god SA never asked. NSW application is complex.

This post has been edited by daylight_dancer: Nov 20 2015, 10:39 PM

Yes need to show you have 20k in your account if you are single applicant.
Anyway, as long as PR granted, i will be good and stay in WA as long as they want. lol...
Applying PR under accountant is really tough now as they have halved accountant to half and now only limited 70 pointers get invitation.
i'm lucky enough to get invitation as a 65 pointer.
finger crossed for the result!

Best of luck. Tough for accountants and engineers, but keep you fingers & toes crossed

Not all the time.

Depends alot on the Antarctica belt weather. This year confirm its going to be scorching heat.

Best of luck!

Hey when are you planning to head to WA for good? Or are you already in WA? I aim to be in WA as well after my 189 is granted, which I think is about, mid or 3Q 2016.

Thanks mate!!



Yea it is getting hotter nowadays!!!
Thanks so much mate

This post has been edited by lilfire: Nov 21 2015, 10:20 AM

Hi Jianh,
I'm still in the middle of my 190.
Still waiting for the stupid certificate of good conduct from Msia which they advise me will take around of 2 months?!?!?!
My Aust PCC already out despite applying on the same day!!!

My agent said it might take 3 months to know whether PR granted.
So might be expected to leave around Feb/March i would say if everything come out positive.

Which part in WA you staying?

This post has been edited by lilfire: Nov 21 2015, 10:25 AM

Not sure yet, to be honest I have no idea at the moment. Cant be choosy when I get there so I'm quite open to options. You?

I would most probably still stay in SOR area around canning vale or thornlie.
More Asian...lol...
Coz i used to work in Perth before i apply my PR for about 3 years.
Familiar with that area already and rental is also cheaper.

Oh I see. Nice.

Well for one, I'm definitely gonna avoid Bentley. Had bad experience once in that area. Got mugged, didn't get hurt though.

Wait, Canning Vale and Thornlie have cheaper rental? Now this I didn't know, noted.



This post has been edited by jianh: Nov 21 2015, 11:12 AM

Avoid Bentley.expensive rental due to Curtin and not safe due to too many international student. Can say many robber n thief also them...

Thornlie is cheap coz near gosnell. But canning vale depends which part.

Gosnell n armadale is cheaper but is a really dodgy area according to the local. Many abo...

Let me know when u going...!

Sure thing and thanks for the info!! =D

No lah mine took 2-3 week, max. Just make sure to check online.

The Aus one was even quicker, they mailed within 10 days.

Agreed, but avoid Gosnells. Lots of trailer park types. Opposing suburbs like Maddington & Thornlie are great, all under the City of Gosnells, but much nicer suburbs.

This post has been edited by daylight_dancer: Nov 21 2015, 01:02 PM

Yea ikr!
Arghh, houses in Gosnells are so cheap compared to Maddington and Thornlie.
But everyone say no no to that area.
But then i always think that since i'm from Msia, these areas might be small cases...lol

You can get it in two weeks from kln website, then get Aussie embassy here to issue a printout. Two months ? Unheard off.

Eh no, it's damn dodgy k. Seriously. I lived in Maddignton for a while, and it felt quite different everytime we had to stop at Gosnells for some reason.

You can even see it in the houses- the Maddington ones are nicer. And if you've cul de sac, it's even better. Kids will be cycling outside during the warmer evenings. Very nice.

Gosnells ah a lot of Aboriginals, and most are quite crude.

ehy are you in WA? finally got someone here.

which metro area are you? i`m right at SOR.

Erm may i ask, what is SOR?

Sorry the last time I resided in WA was 2011 -.-

South Of the RIVER.

Yeap, 2 months!
They said might be earlier but the standard processing time is max 2 months.
So u might lucky and get it fast or unlucky then 2 months sharp.
Is stated in their website, so i call them unbelievably and they just said this to me...

Lol thats what my sis said also.
Yea the houses in Maddington and Canning Vale is really nice.
Gosnells one mostly quite old and look very messy in term of housing distribution etc.



I just come back from WA la...applying PR offshore.
But was at Thornlie last time.
you?

This post has been edited by lilfire: Nov 21 2015, 07:59 PM

one of the place you mentioned above.
Como.

why did you applied offshore?

This post has been edited by KVReninem: Nov 21 2015, 08:01 PM

Same here too applying PR offshore in KL.

Came back after graduate to get some work exp first, in order to grab some pointers.

fresh grad can apply graduate visa for 2 years then can convert PR straight. not meh?

oooo...como...rich ppl area a~lol

Why did i applied offshore...
Its such a long story...
I prev go Aussy on a work n holiday visa and was lucky that boss then sponsor me on a 457.
Boss attitude changed once 457 granted and was mean by reducing the office staff into halve and i have to take up all workloads.
(take up 3 persons work yet still have to cover temp staff work, ot till late night, ot sat,i ot no double but aussy staff have TT)
But i sabar for the sake of employer sponsor PR la...
However everything turn sour when i asked my boss if he would like to sponsor me since i've been there 2 years.
He said ok at first and then i engaged agent and get everything rolling.
Then he said he is willing to sponsor me only with the condition of bonding me 6 more years to be fair for him.
I actually agreed at first (cant believe i'm so dumb...) thinking that it is good at least i secured a job in current bad market.
But then he keep on scolding and shouting at me for nothing and blaming me for mistake either done by him or other staff.
At the same time he keep on giving excuses and not providing documents that agent needed for the visa.
He shouted at my agent and hang up on him without any reason.
My colleague actually eavesdropped that the boss said he dont want to sponsor me PR as he scare i'll resigned.

Since the boss have no intention to do this,so i decided to apply myself.
But then my 457 cancel once i resigned so i can only apply offshore lo

This post has been edited by lilfire: Nov 21 2015, 08:25 PM

that`s verbal abuse in work place under 457 visa. Did you know you can sue the company for not keeping promises? It is Australia; so law is for you to interpret and if you had record basis. You can bring down the company; all you need is a lawyer.



Usually; they blow bubble and buy your loyalty with fake carrot in your eyes. I knew this story all this while. Alot such; but venue for "such" cases are ignored until you bring it to court and challenge the company.

I hope your 190 works well.

1. By the time I graduated, no such thing yet. I graduated a semester too early.
2. Followed gf back msia

And now i'm heading back to Aussie haha

This post has been edited by jianh: Nov 21 2015, 08:37 PM

where about are you going to put up and career?