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post Dec 16 2015, 04:39 PM

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QUOTE(shazam7 @ Dec 16 2015, 01:18 PM)
Annoying, the number of posts here expecting instant answers without taking time to read thru the previous answers. U r on the web, right? Learn how to use Google first. If Google cannot find then ask.
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Come now, this LYN where people are expected to be spoonfed for free. it's not new and has been around for years biggrin.gif

I usually point people to LMGTFY as well.

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post Jan 11 2016, 11:54 AM

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QUOTE(kagenn @ Jan 10 2016, 11:07 PM)
The only part I'm worried is just the way people there drink, and the possibility they may outcast those who can't drink or are allergic to alcohol.
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I work with only a handful of Aussie's but I've been to bars and had no issues with me drinking soda while they drank beer. Similarly I spent a lot of time in US/Europe and my friends/coworkers don't have any issues with me drinking cranberry juice while they drank alcohol. I think it's how you interact with them more than what you eat/drink.

QUOTE(kagenn @ Jan 10 2016, 11:07 PM)
One of the issues I've seen with people is a very pro-western or pro-eastern mentality. It's always a race versus race kind of thing, which defines who they are.
It's like a set of values that they can never imagine changing or removing from themselves.

Pros and cons to that I guess, but it's just hard to understand those who don't try to make the best out of whatever is available to them and remain so stubborn.
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Different people deal with change differently, so if you're adaptable then all the better for you.

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post Aug 8 2016, 02:16 PM

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QUOTE(z21j @ Aug 8 2016, 01:04 PM)
To share practical experience, after 3 months in Melb (from Sg), I still cannot adapt.
> Life here too relax, no career goal in life (Asians not easy to get promoted in my organization). 
> Everything here are expensive. Stay at home the cheapest but that's defeat the purpose of coming here.

Here are my everyday questions:
1. Should I waste my $10k (costs incurred for Aus PR application) and go back SG? Should I stay two years to extend another 5 yrs PR, by compromise my inner feeling now?
2. Resign within 3 months, reflect good on me?
3. I'm 27 this year. Too early to settle down in Aus?

I have no answer to the above. Those who has yet to come, think properly. Study here is not the same as work.
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Personally this statement "Asians not easy to get promoted in my organization" is one that I would worry about a lot more than anything else. I don't want to be in a company where there is perceived discrimination.

Nothing wrong with resigning in 3 months, just say you don't fit the culture. I'm a hiring manager and I would accept that excuse

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post Aug 8 2016, 08:42 PM

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QUOTE(Soony @ Aug 8 2016, 04:44 PM)
As long as you are earning in Australia, spending capacity although is higher than SG, your earning power should be higher as well. Unless the company you work with employs you at the minimum rate.
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Are you sure "spending capacity" is higher than Singapore? SGD is about 1 to 1 with AUD. In my limited experience, taxes, food/groceries and day to day expenses tend to be slightly higher in Australia.

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post Aug 18 2016, 09:22 PM

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QUOTE(lilfire @ Aug 18 2016, 04:11 PM)
Migration is not an easy and cheap thing.
I believe ppl who decided to migrate will definitely weight the pros and cons themselves and have their own reason and not just bcoz the grass is always greener overseas.

Just like me...Give up my friends and career in Msia, migrated here and still job hunting.
Ex manager keep asking me to go back, dont waste time unemployed and shes keeping me a position. But i have no regret for the decision i made...At least so far not regret yet...lol... tongue.gif
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I agree, it's a personal choice and even then, situations can change to the point where migration doesn't even make sense anymore. I've had friends who've left Australia after living & working there for several years. I personally may let go of my 175 as well, happy with my work life balance and not willing to face the big financial loss.

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post Aug 29 2016, 08:34 PM

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I've read quite a bit on people customizing their resumes and sending out as many job applications as possible, but very little on networking, volunteering etc. to expand your chances of actually getting a job.

Anyone?

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post Aug 30 2016, 09:58 AM

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QUOTE(Soony @ Aug 30 2016, 07:39 AM)
Networking and volunteering are pretty important in the resume. This is true esp for smaller companies. Think if you are able to refer to the person's actual name rather than hiring manager, or even direct to the managers inbox rather than generic HR inbox.

Always make an impact and never forget to leave your name card with the person. Though the above is not true if you have a specific and niche skill that is sought after.
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I'm not saying that it's not an important part of the resume, I'm just asking what people are doing to network and get recognized, rather than randomly shooting out resumes to every email address and HR department out there.

For me for example, I would lean on my college alumni list (if you have a well established one), join several professional meetings (meetup, conferences etc) just to know people. My wife volunteered at the local park and got to know lots of people just from there. A close friend got hired this way within 3 weeks of landing in Sydney for example.

I just don't see networking being discussed much here, just how to blast out your resumes and hope for a job.

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post Oct 8 2016, 03:56 PM

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QUOTE(kenji1903 @ Oct 8 2016, 02:36 PM)
need some advice and view from the PRs here... i just came back from Melbourne and had an offer for a contract IT job for 6 months, pay is AUD500/day inclusive super...

the few days i spent in Melbourne, i did cooking for my boy so i roughly know how much the vegetables and fishes costs, i surveyed basic groceries at the CBD supermarkets, eating out, driving, parking, public transport, even the pharmacy cos my wife was sick...
i'm still a bit skeptical whether that pay is sufficient for a family of 3... no conversion wise, Melbourne are as expensive as KL... the parking especially even beats Orchard Road flat doh.gif

rough calculations say its doable... still need to be very careful spending... mind sharing your input?
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What is your primary objective? If it's to get a job in Melbourne, then this is a big step forward no? Know your objective and make your decision based on that.

$500/day is roughly $130k per year. Less since it's with super and you get no paid leave, but still higher than the $75-85k average annual salary in Melbourne.

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post Oct 8 2016, 07:26 PM

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QUOTE(kenji1903 @ Oct 8 2016, 06:36 PM)
to me its a good start and it works out roughly to about AUD6.7k take home per month provided i get 20 days for work a month...
again, no conversion, my MYR household (my wife is working) take home pay is way higher than that and its just enough supporting a family of 3...
is AUD6.7k enough for a family of 3 in Melbourne since i'm the sole breadwinner?
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In all honesty I'm in the same boat as you ie. the typical job in Australia is a step down financially. My primary objective is to not be at a financial disadvantage, but enjoy the nicer weather there biggrin.gif I'm just prepared for all possibilities though including letting my PR lapse.

Off topic, more than A$7k take home in Malaysia and it's barely enough for a family of 3? Your standards are high my friend biggrin.gif

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post Oct 11 2016, 10:58 AM

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QUOTE(kenji1903 @ Oct 11 2016, 10:25 AM)
we can continue in PM if this is inappropriate in a public forum
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Unless it's private and confidential info please share and discuss here, let's add to our cumulative knowledge.

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post Jan 3 2017, 11:12 PM

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QUOTE(fuserdef @ Jan 3 2017, 10:11 PM)
Holly Balls ! I thought it was gona be 20K !

Ah ok, Audrey, noted.

Yea i agree, DIY 50% discount. But I am in the same boat as you, busy with a FT job, additionally, in the past, I have messed up a visa application before (albeit for a different country and reason) and to get back to status quo was hell to say the least, so defo gona get an agent me thinks.

how long from when you completed handing over your docs to GM to when you receive your PR ?

also if you dont mind, for me and the rest of the kind ppl here that read this thread, how long before you manage to secure a 'proper' job ? been reading around the results vary immensely. did you start applying from here or did you land there and only start ?

p/s - really appreciate all this info. ive been thinking about it for 1/2 a year now.. so far i feel the odds are on my side, but so so scared to take this leap of faith.
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Check the website for rough figures. It's I think $3.6k for the primary applicant, $1.8k for spouse and $900 per child, not including exams, assessments etc. Assuming you're doing it alone, the fees alone will already be close to RM14-15k not including agent fees.

I did mine some years back, but due to career and financial reasons I probably won't be going anytime soon. In short just make the decision to apply, and be flexible with what comes in the future whether or not you decide to move.

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post Jan 5 2017, 06:37 AM

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QUOTE(fuserdef @ Jan 4 2017, 10:36 PM)
that is an interesting decision so for your case is more of a 'get out of jail free' card that you have in your back pocket la right ? But i thought in order too keep your PR and later to upgrade to citizen, you need to be there x amount of days throughout your PR duration ?
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Yes I do have to maintain a minimum number of days to maintain the PR, I have some time to think about this but the trajectory is leading away from the PR at this point. Again my situation is completely different from most other people, my point is that you need to be prepared for changes, sometimes drastic changes. biggrin.gif

Good luck.

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post Jan 17 2017, 07:13 PM

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QUOTE(ruztynail @ Jan 17 2017, 04:42 PM)
just to double confirm. i can enter prior to the PR expiry, as long as i dont exit. i am still a valid PR? and if i were to get the RRV, i have to stay 2 years in the last 5 years prior to the RRV application? betul?  confused.gif
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First part is correct.

The second part will require some confirmation, but from what I understand, the RRV is required if *both* cases apply to you:

1. are past the initial 5 years
2. did not fulfill the 2 year requirement in the past 5 years

So a quick trip home if both the above apply to you will require an RRV at $360 per person.

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post Apr 18 2017, 01:03 PM

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Thanks TechnoG. From that same article also...

"“There won’t be permanent residency outcomes at the end of [the new temporary visa program],” he said."

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post May 26 2017, 03:01 PM

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So my 5 years is almost up on my 175. Due to my circumstances, I have no plans to move. Will apply for the RRV if and when I need it.

Good luck everyone else applying and/or planning to move.

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post May 26 2017, 04:26 PM

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QUOTE(DarReNz @ May 26 2017, 04:00 PM)
yeap if you are staying put in australia and not flying overseas you don't need RRV  nod.gif
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Uh I guess it wasn't very clear biggrin.gif I'm not moving to Australia which means I will need the RRV if I ever decide to move.

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post May 26 2017, 10:24 PM

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QUOTE(DarReNz @ May 26 2017, 09:07 PM)
it is still possible for tishaban to get RRV of 1 year if he has a compelling reason, just lodge it offshore and renew it every year until he is able to fulfill the criteria then he will get the 5 years  nod.gif
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Yes, I have friends who have lodged RRV before. One was denied on her first year, but received it the few years after that.

I don't know what the standards are for a compelling reason, I guess I will find out if I ever lodge one biggrin.gif


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post Jul 7 2017, 10:21 AM

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QUOTE(fuserdef @ Jul 7 2017, 12:01 AM)
She said I most probably would have to do an annual RRV but I would like to clarify, it is annual as oppose to the usual 5 years in 1 go ? And at the moment how soon can a skilled 189 visa holder apply for citizenship ? after the first 5 years ?
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I have a friend with ties to Australia (immediate family staying there) and she had to get annual RRV and not an automatic 5 year extension. I think this is her 3rd year doing so.

I have zero ties with Australia, wondering when I should apply for my RRV biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(stargirl @ Apr 20 2018, 04:41 PM)
Yea..I'm main applicant. Application for NZ lesser points? But NZ got earthquake lol...
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Yeah but Australia has the most poisonous snakes, spiders, scorpions, jellyfish etc in the world biggrin.gif
Realistically NZ is easier even when I was checking a few weeks ago for fun. I easily scored 155 points (minimum 100) for the EOI

I also went for interviews in NZ, if you're in the IT line and willing to do hands on technical work they'd probably hire you immediately.

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post Jul 12 2018, 04:15 PM

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QUOTE(limeuu @ Jul 11 2018, 09:32 PM)
Something wrong with dibp/DHA lately.... processing numbers dropped significantly, way below previous month's.....and processing time very long....in 2016, it only took 3 weeks from invitation to submit for 189 to grant.....now it's 5 months....
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Yep, I've noticed it too. The MARA agents I've been in touch with said it's been ongoing for maybe 12 months already.




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