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immabee
post Dec 5 2015, 12:57 PM

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QUOTE(evieta @ Dec 5 2015, 06:49 AM)
depends on the state you are moving to. should be easier to get in sydney. I know people who took more than 1 year to get a permanent job and a friend who has been here for few mths (with audit background) still can't find a job. In conclusion, many many people (including me) will tell you it's really hard to get  your FIRST job in Australia. But if you are determined and open to take up any job (not just professional jobs).. you would survive here. All the best!

To share my personal exp.. I was also from big 4 msia, it was not super easy to get my first job here but i didnt find it particularly hard. i just did what people tell me to do, make my resume aussie smile.gif
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Good on ya man thumbup.gif . For your first job, did you submit your resume only after you've landed? And was your first job within accounting industry too?
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post Jan 5 2016, 10:32 PM

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QUOTE(Nemesis1980 @ Jan 5 2016, 12:08 PM)
Hi guys, , if you have any queries on how to apply job here provided you already got your visa, can always give us a buzz. We'll try to advise you whatever we can
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Finally have obtained PR independently sweat.gif . But how's the current job market like for accounting industry particularly in Sydney? Has anyone tried applying from bolehland and made it to interviews? Also, is it better to go there while I am still in early stages of my career?
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post Jan 11 2016, 10:26 PM

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QUOTE(Justin Wong @ Jan 11 2016, 04:53 PM)
Hi there,

I have been in Aus for about a year and I have moved from Brisbane to Sydney.

When you say accounting, do you mean financial reporting role / accounting entry or do you mean professional accounting practice that includes financial advisory and consulting? This question is relevant because the latter is heaving recruiting, especially from the Big 4s here. Generally, there is a pretty healthy demand for accounting professionals in Sydney but it is limited to the experienced market. If you are in the fresh graduate market, it is really really tough and competitive.

To be honest, I don't have answer to your question because it depends on so many factors but crucially timing is everything. In my case, it was all timing (though my work experience definitely helped too) and ability to articulate why you are suitable for the role and why are you passionate about the job. Generally, you may stand a better chance of getting a job when you are onshore and physically present in the interview because Aussies prefer to talk to candidate in person and see if they like you and can 'click' with you. However, I did mine through video conferencing when I moved to Brisbane but I did a physical interview and case study when I moved to Sydney.

I don't know much about your background, but if I may advise (and if you are willing to wait), I will suggest that you gain your relevant experience in Asia before you move to Australia because the chances of getting a higher paid job will be better. Starting low in Aus may put you at the risk of a static career progression, and this is quite painful especially if you are living in expensive cities like Sydney.
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Thanks Soony, solvent, Nemesis1980 and Justin Wong for all your inputs notworthy.gif . Previously studied in Australia, returned to Bolehland to have my 3 years experience recorded and working at one of the Big 4s. Currently at semi senior level and I am now half way through my Chartered Accountants Program. I am asking this is because I doubt our current management will let me go/recommend me to Australia easily through by other means (e.g. long term assignment/transfer) despite I have a PR.

You could be right. Maybe I should just focus on my remaining papers and the work experience from our prospective clients before moving there.
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post May 25 2016, 10:08 PM

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Hi guys, just to confirm. Basically no visa is required if I were to go to Australia to activate my permanent residence for the first time? Also, when I arrive there, I don't have to queue at the visitors line when going through immigration right?
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post May 26 2016, 10:22 AM

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QUOTE(Nemesis1980 @ May 26 2016, 09:56 AM)
Then the immigration will put down red carpet open up a local wine to congratulate u finally made it to oz from Bolehland giving u jobs, houses and money to live here.....
Come on.....please wake up. There's thousands of immigrants here looking for job and make here their home. Back to the queue! Lol......
Why u think U're so special coming here?

I just bumped up with a rich malaysian guy who on business visa wanna fulfil 400k per annum turnover. He tot everything is ez and can go under table like what he did in KL. Told him many times beware and don't do it coz the authority is watching. Very arrogant person, thought he can make it thru this way. Now kena dy. Slapped with fines and summon. Happy la...

I dunno why there's a perception making malaysian thinks they should have special treatment here. Obviously money is the key but Chinese from china hv more money than u many 2 times.

So please don't tiao geh. Come and learn. Learn what the locals do. Adopt the ozzie lifestyle and enjoy it.
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Lol Nemesis. I'm not sure what you're on and off about on those perceptions. I was just asking what are the procedures when activating the PR for the first time and which immigration lane to follow.

I don't want to end up getting detained at my departing airport without proper documents or go to the wrong immigration lane when arriving at OZ. Simple as that.
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post Aug 22 2017, 05:03 PM

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Hey guys, I just came back from Brissie (3 weeks of short stint with a government agency). During my time there, I have heard that the job outlook isn't very positive as most of the vacancies available now are mainly temp/contract. I am working under accounting industry (public practice to be precise).

My PR is currently running (left 3 years ++) and I have not make a move as I was unsure about the job security in Brisbane. To those who are now in Down Under, are you able to confirm me whether the unemployability rate is rising?. Thanks.
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post Aug 24 2017, 10:19 PM

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Thanks guys for providing a clearer picture (whether good or bad). At the moment, I am quite contented with my current role in Malaysia. However, I felt like there is a lot more I can learn and earn with a hint of work-life balance (yeah the irony). Since I am still in my 20's and single, I was thinking of making use of my current PR to acquire professional exposure (mainly external audit) in Australia for at least 1.5-2 years before it lapses (if God permits). I am now entering my 4th year in public practice.

If Down Under only can offer contract/temp job that lasts 12 months or less, I would not take the risk of moving as job security matters. This is where I am confirming with you guys (who have settled there) to share your views about the job outlook at Down Under. =)
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post Aug 25 2017, 03:40 PM

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QUOTE(DarReNz @ Aug 25 2017, 08:00 AM)
best you can do is get into at least Big 4 in malaysia so when you move here, they recognise the company you worked for overseas although they deduct 1-2 years off it, if that firm is unheard of then tougher luck for you when you get here to apply  nod.gif
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Thanks guys. Currently at a BIG4 firm. Gotta thank them for the reputation.
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post Dec 15 2017, 01:01 AM

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QUOTE(immabee @ Aug 22 2017, 05:03 PM)
Hey guys, I just came back from Brissie (3 weeks of short stint with a government agency). During my time there, I have heard that the job outlook isn't very positive as most of the vacancies available now are mainly temp/contract. I am working under accounting industry (public practice to be precise).

My PR is currently running (left 3 years ++) and I have not make a move as I was unsure about the job security in Brisbane. To those who are now in Down Under, are you able to confirm me whether the unemployability rate is rising?. Thanks.
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Hi. It has been a few months since the last post above. I just got offered a permanent role from a public practice at Gold Coast. Accepted the offer and will be tendering my resignation tomorrow. sweat.gif

Despite the excitement and uncertainty (new work environment / new working methods), I will definitely miss my coworkers and the current firm.

Do you guys have any tips in settling down at Gold Coast in particular? Will be relocating in 2018.

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post Oct 3 2021, 09:33 PM

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QUOTE(Screen @ Sep 15 2021, 11:19 PM)
Just got an offer from one of the Big4s in Melbourne. Apart from the Visas and stuff, wish to seek out on advice on important facts and things to do to settle down there (e.g. insurance, bank accounts etc)

Sponsored by the Big4 on a Temporary Skills Shortage Visa, they gave me a 2 year contract while the Visa is 3 years. 80k per annum including superannuition and I'm expected to start around mid-Nov this year
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Congratulations on the offer! This is no doubt the best time to take up this overseas opportunity (pre COVID it had less openings with sponsored visas for international experienced hires). Still million times more rewarding than others being on a virtual secondment.

1. Look up for rooms to rent (probably via flatmates.com.au with minimal lease term) so that you have a temporary place to stay upon arrival. People generally don't accept applications until you're there in person for inspection hence the availability of the listings could be limited.
2. Open a savings bank account with at least an accompanying debit card. << In some cases NAB does accept applications before flying over. You just need there to be in person to activate it.
3. Buy and reload a public transportation card (if you need to travel around).
4. Get groceries and essentials to at least sustain for the first week or two.
5. Get an Aussie phone number.
6. If you need to be present in the office on your first day your work, try visit its surroundings the day before/few days before.
7. Get your tax file number
8. Catch up with any of your friends who are in Melbourne (if any)
9. Start looking up rental listings and do house/room inspections if you don't like your temporary accommodation
10. Apply credit card if possible

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post Oct 4 2021, 12:09 AM

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Yep really a golden opportunity, hence decided to just snap it up  smile.gif

1. Was lurking around Domain and found some places near office already, probably will get a friend to help out to inspect and nail down the lease. Is $500/week for a 2-bedroom apartment a good deal? Not sure if it includes utilities or not though...
2. Any other banks do you guys recommend/not recommend? Or just stick with NAB then nothing will go wrong (like Maybank here?)
3. Yep, definitely, will be hopping on off trams and trains a lot around CBD. Hoping they have some sort of frequent user discount for Uber/credit card associated with Uber though...
6. Firm actually still in hybrid working arrangements, and they promised to deliver the laptop to the quarantine spot to let me start earlier if needed lol, but roughly researched the surroundings already hehe
10. Any recommendations? I think will do a lot of riding around (probably Uber to client's place and claim company) and food deliveries...

Thanks for the extensive list of tips!
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No worries!

1. Can't give an answer on that as I am not in Melbourne but your friend might be able to give some inputs if he/she knows the rental market.
2. I prefer no annual fees for my debit card, $0 atm withdrawal fees and also the convenience factor of setting up my first account (i.e. not too many requirements for migrants). I would say start with any Big 4 banks or HSBC that are close to your office and home (for convenience). Once you've settled, you can switch or open new accounts in other banks if you found a better deal (i.e. better saving rates).
3. Using the public transport card will have cheaper (not much) fare than a paper ticket. Usually you can link your bank account / credit card / debit card to your public transport card for auto-reload function which can be handy if you are too lazy to manually reload on the internet/at stations/convenience stores.
10. Not sure which Big 4 you're at but I am aware so far Deloitte and KPMG have AMEX corporate credit card program. When starting, try talk to your colleagues to see if you are eligible to apply for AMEX Corporate Credit card. If there is, they'll guide you steps for applying it and the card usually arrives to the office not long after the partner in charge approves. The card is registered and billed to the firm hence you can link this to your Uber app and use it on any work related expenses (as long as they're within the claims policy). Great thing about this you don't have to use your personal CC (unless some outlets/vendors don't accept AMEX) and all you need is to retain receipts so you can attach them in their claims platform to support the payments that've gone through AMEX. Probably an employee handbook policy might give you more insight.

 

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