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kagenn
post Nov 19 2015, 11:19 PM

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QUOTE(daylight_dancer @ Nov 19 2015, 11:05 PM)
You don't have to stay in the state that sponsors you. I have a 190. I know many people who have a 190 who don't lve int eh state that sponsored them.
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If you don't live in the state they set for you then will it count towards to 2 years you have to fulfill? They do not mind as long as it's in anywhere in Aus?

Will they come find you after your 5 years stint and send you back?
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post Dec 23 2015, 01:29 AM

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Looks like you guys did one heck of a job deterring anymore questions from appearing.

On a side note, how are things in Sydney for anyone who's currently there?
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post Dec 25 2015, 12:06 AM

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QUOTE(shazam7 @ Dec 23 2015, 07:58 AM)
Yes, no one seems to have intelligent questions.

Re Sydney - A broad question.

Depends which industry u r in (job stability, demand etc).
--If u hv right contact and experience, there will be jobs.

Real estate prices (rent or buy) still crazy but rumors that there will be a correction soon.

Traffic is mad, no change, take PT if possible.
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Thanks for the info. Guess I've gotta look forward to rent going down, hopefully.

Still checking out job availability for the IT industry since I've recently got my PR for NSW state sponsored.
Anyone had any luck / experience applying out of Aus?

I've made the necessary changes to based on the Aus resume template and have been applying, but doesn't seem like I'm having much luck.
Does the 'local experience' trump everything else?

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post Jan 7 2016, 11:22 AM

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QUOTE(shazam7 @ Jan 5 2016, 01:37 PM)
Good luck with rent going down. Not going to happen soon.

Luck/experience applying out of Aus:
Look at this way, u have 100+ of applicants per role. Put yrself in the recruiter's shoes. How would they shortlist?
If u expect to just expect any responses to come back cos u sent a few CVs out, then u will be sorely disappointed.

Tip 1:
Tailor make CV and cover letter to suit each and every role u apply 4.

Tip 2:
Don't just submit the CV. Call recruiter and sell yourself. Tell them why they shld shortlist u.

If they want to meet u, they want u 2 b avail on short notice.
If u say u still in MY, yr CV goes to bottom of the pile.

Local experience is very valuable. This is how I got my last 2 roles. In my past role, didn't even need interview and job was not even advertised.
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I have been receiving similar advice in regards to this, and definitely agree about how being there would definitely be a lot more helpful than applying offshore.

Unfortunately, circumstances does not allow me to move to Aus till after the middle of the year, and as such I have but limited options but to apply for jobs online even if it's not gonna be fruitful.
Better to try than to sit down waiting. CV has been modified based on the Aus preference, and cover letters are definitely tailored too.

Worst case scenario would just be to go there jobless and pick up whatever jobs available at the point.


Has anyone here managed to snag a job before the move to Aus after getting a PR? If so, how did it go? Thanks. =)
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post Jan 10 2016, 01:01 AM

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QUOTE(Nemesis1980 @ Jan 8 2016, 04:01 PM)
A friend who's a qualified accountant and wife only spm. Both work with good pay back there while wife work as sales. They had their pr and they applied job offshore. Surprisingly the wife found a job offshore while hubby yet to get for years. Few years later wife promoted and manage to buy house and cars and support the whole family.

My point is there's no exact answer to your question. Sometimes luck just came to doorstep. Don't get yourself so proud with your bachelor degree coz it's everywhere. It's all about skills and talents.
Even I can't do what she did.

I landed perth jobless but I tried damn hard apply 10 jobs per day and bugging agents everyday. I landed with job in 2 weeks.
I do get stress what if no job but bite the bullet you'll walk thru. I get more negative comments than anyone else here evn my malaysia boss tan sri.

Don't get shoot down by negative comments on jobless. You'll learn something new from others. Bend your knees and back. Be humble
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Thanks for sharing.

Good to know about you friend's situation and their success.

Kinda suspect that it'll be a similar case when it's time to go there.
Well, life will be such: adapt or go back empty handed.

The local working experience is applicable regardless of jobs? If I work as a cashier for a year, it's considered 1 year general work experience/'working in Australia' experience?
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post Jan 10 2016, 11:07 PM

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QUOTE(Soony @ Jan 10 2016, 11:30 AM)
Don't be shy, embrace the Australian culture and adapt to their ways of living. It is much easier to get a job when an Asian turned up with speaking and behaving like the locals. Almost all the Asians in my company which is very limited behaves different to a normal Malaysian. Do note that I'm not asking you to forgo your roots.

Yes you are correct, but how much is it applicable in the next interview, it's up to you to stir your shit through with the hiring manager.
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Adapting should be alright, I quite enjoy absorbing values or traits that I find beneficial to myself.

The only part I'm worried is just the way people there drink, and the possibility they may outcast those who can't drink or are allergic to alcohol.


QUOTE(daylight_dancer @ Jan 10 2016, 12:20 PM)
Good Advice. Don't forget one's roots, yet do assimilate.

I've seen too many who refuse or cannot do this and it's been nothing but complaints from these sorts.

Whenever they ask me about difficulties, I honestly say I didn't face any sort of issues because I've always been thought to somehow assimilate with local cultures.
Dunno la why some people so stubborn.
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One of the issues I've seen with people is a very pro-western or pro-eastern mentality. It's always a race versus race kind of thing, which defines who they are.
It's like a set of values that they can never imagine changing or removing from themselves.

Pros and cons to that I guess, but it's just hard to understand those who don't try to make the best out of whatever is available to them and remain so stubborn.


QUOTE(Nemesis1980 @ Jan 10 2016, 12:54 PM)
That's a general experience working culture. The best is on your job profession.
Some work experience transferable but some were not. 1st 2 years is pain in the neck. After that, you'll be on track
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Thanks, still doing what I can and applying for jobs that match my skill set while I am still in Msia.

Sad thing is, I know several people who are doing a similar job, and a lot of them are unable to find the desired job in Aus, which is quite stressful to know.

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post Jan 11 2016, 05:21 PM

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QUOTE(tishaban @ Jan 11 2016, 11:54 AM)
I work with only a handful of Aussie's but I've been to bars and had no issues with me drinking soda while they drank beer. Similarly I spent a lot of time in US/Europe and my friends/coworkers don't have any issues with me drinking cranberry juice while they drank alcohol. I think it's how you interact with them more than what you eat/drink.
Different people deal with change differently, so if you're adaptable then all the better for you.
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I suppose it's good that they're quite accepting of it. From my own experience, roughly 50% of the time I join people, they will still ask me to drink (in good nature) regardless of allergy.
I highly agree on going for the company than to drink/eat, which is the only reason I join others for such gatherings.

As long as people are respectful to the wishes of others I guess that's fine, which in comparison with some drinkers I've met here: they simply cannot fathom I'm unable to drink and are unable to accept it.

QUOTE(kenji1903 @ Jan 11 2016, 03:50 PM)
by the way, those who engaged agents, can share how long did your Visa application took?
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Took me about over a year and a half (maybe 7-8 months) to get my PR via the agent.
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post Feb 12 2016, 12:05 PM

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MYR 3 : 1 AUD at the moment. Might be a good time to start saving up Aussie dollars.
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post Dec 12 2016, 04:19 PM

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Hey guys, need some feedback on how things are in Sydney (state sponsored).

My wife and I will be heading over in March, both without jobs even though we've been applying from Malaysia one and off.
I am a programmer and she's an accountant. She gets replies to notify about having her resume being KIV, while my applications are totally ignored.

Currently considering taking up a course once there for any jobs in demand, but still considering options as we have only enough to last a year in the worst case scenarios.
As such, I would like to know about anyone who managed to land jobs in these two fields. Any luck?

Thanks guys.
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post Dec 12 2016, 09:23 PM

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QUOTE(teikwing @ Dec 12 2016, 04:53 PM)
Can't speak for Programming as didn't have any experience but there are heaps of jobs/role for Accountants. Spouse is in that field and she got a role within 2 weeks of landing (albeit only for 6 months contract) and a permanent role within 2 months. Depending on which industry your wife speclaises in - property management/financial services has huge quota for Accountants in Sydney whilst Manufacturing has better prospects in Melbourne.
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Thanks! That sounds pretty optimistic for her case. She was previously in property management related accounting. Both of you found jobs in your respective fields so soon?


QUOTE(kael90 @ Dec 12 2016, 06:33 PM)
I would say just keep on applying. Its just a matter of time. Heaps of opportunities in Sydney especially in IT and accounting.
I m in the same field as urs and same as my gf, an accountant. I had been working here for half a year now. Both of us are on working visa.
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Sounds good for both of you. If you don't mind me asking, what language are you coding in? I am doing SAP programming, and the available roles unfortunately requires additional 3 or more years of experience. Thinking of starting fresh again in C++/# or anything I can get into. Any suggestions?

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post Dec 12 2016, 10:01 PM

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QUOTE(kael90 @ Dec 12 2016, 09:29 PM)
Same field as in IT but not programming. I'm sure there are jobs around with SAP programming and yes you'll probably need 2-3 years of experience.
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There are, about 6-8 years of experience in a whole lot of different skillsets. I have about 6 years exp, and I only have about 50-60%% of the required skills. The type of experience required can sometimes only be obtained if you're in the right project, and may not be viable to learn it yourself without proper examples/tutorials and chance to implement it.

I'll just look through the available entry level IT programmers or IT related jobs and try my luck.



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post Dec 13 2016, 02:33 PM

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QUOTE(shazam7 @ Dec 13 2016, 06:31 AM)
From what I have heard from a major recruitment agency, developers are in demand and there are more roles than people. All the newer languages.
Have a few friends in accounting, it seems jobs are not that easy to come by; they are trying to switch to find a better role but have been unsuccessful.

U will need to tailor yr resume for Oz standards, and unfortunately u will need to be here (ie local mobile, be able to attend interviews at the drop of a hat).
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Thanks for the input. My current resume has already been customized as the Aus resume style. I even started using it in Msia but a few interviewers have commented it's too short (2 pages, can't blame them since they're so used to Msian resumes).

Totally agree with you on the need to be on site to possibly get the call, unless I have some niche skill. Which is why we'll be trying our luck there come March. In the meantime just do our homework and more research.

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post Dec 14 2016, 12:47 AM

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QUOTE(teikwing @ Dec 13 2016, 02:43 PM)
IIRC, came across few Finance/Accounting roles in names like JLL and Dexus recently. You can check. Yes we both found our roles fairly quick, opposed to what a lot has shared from their experience.
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Well, we're gonna hope for the best but expect the most realistic outcome. Haha, thanks for the suggestions though. Will look through em.

It is fairly demotivating, with the economic situation like that coupled with all the competition & difficulty in landing a suitable job.
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post Dec 16 2016, 11:28 AM

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Read here that working in the F&B industry is quite bad and isn't recommended, but is it okay to work in restaurants as such in the meantime while looking for jobs?
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post Dec 17 2016, 01:18 PM

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QUOTE(shazam7 @ Dec 16 2016, 11:44 AM)
You may have a better chance with SME IT companies who arent too fussy with "relevant" experience.
Also connect up on the FB Malaysian groups - they may have jalan for new migrants.
Problem of course is that once u r stuck in SME IT it can be difficult to move up to the major corporates later on.
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Good advice. I've searched and requested to join a few.
I doubt I'll have the luxury to worry about career progress for the moment unless I'm that lucky.
Sides, based on what I've been reading, networking solves most of that issue, coupled with the ability to back it up.
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post Jan 19 2017, 02:02 PM

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QUOTE(jianh @ Jan 19 2017, 01:38 PM)
Anyone has ever gotten their 189 granted without ever arrive in Australia before all their life?
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If it helps, I got my 190 without ever setting foot in Aus before..
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post Feb 6 2017, 02:22 PM

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Hey guys, some questions below:
I've tried applying for a tax file number online but can't seem to get it though on several occasions. Has anyone else encountered this as well? Is the procedure still the same or have the requirements/processes changed?

How did you guys transfer money to Aus from Malaysia/anywhere else? Via banks or FOREX companies? Any recommendations? I am currently considering FOREX for their better rates but trying to look for alternatives for cheaper fees.

Uber/grab car better than taxis in Aus?
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post Feb 6 2017, 07:35 PM

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QUOTE(daylight_dancer @ Feb 6 2017, 06:12 PM)
Getting TFN can only done when you're in Australia. Can't be done when you're in Malaysia.

My parents used to send me money when I was Aus via Telegraphic Transfer. But I hear now you can open a Citibank account in MY and One in Aust and send money there without issues/ exorbitant charges.  not checked it out entirely yet though.
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Thanks, HSBC has the same thing, but it requires you to have a premier account which has pretty damn high requirements, at least for me.

Also, cousin living in Aus told me I could do it from Msia but can't seem to get it done. Guess I'll just have to do everything once I'm there.


QUOTE(xphonerz @ Feb 6 2017, 06:58 PM)
Citibank/hsbc global transfer,
Maybank to commbank via TT, maybank charge rm 10+gst, commbank charge aud 11
Bring banker cheque, u dont have to declare if above 10k unless asked
Cash, max 10k without hv to report to customs
Forex company? I cant find one which accept RM. Please share here if you do
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Have you done the exchange via Maybank before? If you have, do you mind telling me if you received better exc rates? The current rate is like 3.44 which is rather high.

I'm opening an Anz account as Commbank's account has monthly fee of 5 IIRC unless you do a 2k+ deposit monthly. My friend recommended Western Union, and I think it has a better rate than the default bank rate.


Also:
Are reference letters from Malaysian employers helpful there? Does the same apply to rental references?

Google has provided me info on the taxi vs Uber in Aus: Uber is cheaper.
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post Feb 7 2017, 04:34 PM

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QUOTE(xphonerz @ Feb 7 2017, 04:32 AM)
Nope, i've waited until the rate acceptable for me only i TT
You can open NAB as well, no monthly fee
For migrants, commbank will waive the monthly fee for th first year
Not sure about WU, but if im not mistaken the fee is quite high...
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I see, must have missed out the fee waiver. Didn't remember seeing it on their website for the migration section.

WU union fee from Msia to Aus is about 22USD I believe, so yeah, probably higher than banks, but you get slightly better rates in return.
So if you change a big enough an amount to bypass the higher fees then you can probably save a bit. Have not actually done the maths for this.
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post Feb 7 2017, 04:39 PM

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QUOTE(Nemesis1980 @ Feb 7 2017, 02:28 PM)
TFN not quite sure any changes but pretty sure it's not hard to get 1

Can look out for citibank/hsbc. open account from each country and link both account. transfer fee only RM0.10.....yeah...it is. that's what i did

There got uber/schoffer....and others. but popular one is uber. so far rate coming up average $22-25/hr. of course exclude your car maintenance, fuel, hinkypanky government charges....
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Thanks, I'll just apply for the TFN when I'm in Aus.

The staff at HSBC told me & wife that we'd require the HSBC premier account, which is quite crazy for us to open in order to open an account over there.
Just checked and it's : http://www.hsbc.com.au/1/2/hsbcpremier/get-in-touch
Can't avoid the premier account.

Thanks, we'll have a fair bit of luggage and will probably need to get Uber.

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