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If global recession hits, Msia and many countries would be affected as well.Working in Australia V2, All About working in Australia
Working in Australia V2, All About working in Australia
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Nov 19 2015, 02:23 AM
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QUOTE(RO Player @ Nov 18 2015, 09:37 AM) U can't stop the inevitable, Google baby vanga.. her prediction and some maybe off, but will happen soon If u meant baba vanga...there are sources on the internet saying that people who are close to her such as her neighbours says that she never predicted about world war 3 and most of the things circulating on the Internet. These stuffs circulating on the net are tarnishing her reputation.This post has been edited by evieta: Nov 19 2015, 02:24 AM |
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Nov 20 2015, 02:43 PM
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QUOTE(KVReninem @ Nov 20 2015, 02:10 PM) Well. Here`s a sad case you don't know. I actually feel that even people who tried and gone back have nothing to lose. At least they gain some experience. There is nothing to be ashame about coming and leaving though.Been here; usually those job like accountants / professionals as mentioned on previous thread. They are oversupplied. It clearly stated its your own fault to begin with. This post has been edited by evieta: Nov 20 2015, 03:05 PM |
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Nov 20 2015, 03:09 PM
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QUOTE(KVReninem @ Nov 20 2015, 03:50 PM) That is reason you make a collective(informed) choice. I know how hard it is to actually leave Malaysia. But once you got over it; you will see it as just a small part of a bigger thing. I absolutely get what you mean. After all, Australia is becoming more like Malaysia but with more diversity. Do consider about it require resource, time and adaptation. If one still undecided. Its better to just come here and experience by travelling. Whether a person will succeed would depend on his desire to stay in Aust. Most Malaysians prefer the comfort of having a stable office job and will not accept the idea of changing to do something different, learn a skill to take up trades job. Settling down in Australia could take years.. Some people take up to 5 years to settle. I am also still settling but I am really happy here and love being here. |
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Dec 5 2015, 06:49 AM
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QUOTE(dudey @ Dec 5 2015, 03:41 AM) Hi all, just wanted to get some advise. depends on the state you are moving to. should be easier to get in sydney. I know people who took more than 1 year to get a permanent job and a friend who has been here for few mths (with audit background) still can't find a job. In conclusion, many many people (including me) will tell you it's really hard to get your FIRST job in Australia. But if you are determined and open to take up any job (not just professional jobs).. you would survive here. All the best! I recently just received my aussie PR last week after a long 6 months wait. In terms of job prospect, how hard is it to find a full time job in aus with a pr.. My working experience consist of being an Audit Manager in one of the big four with 5 years working experience. Thanks To share my personal exp.. I was also from big 4 msia, it was not super easy to get my first job here but i didnt find it particularly hard. i just did what people tell me to do, make my resume aussie |
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Dec 8 2015, 05:03 AM
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QUOTE(immabee @ Dec 5 2015, 01:57 PM) Good on ya man Thanks!! basically I am lucky also ..submitted 2 weeks after I landed.. Yeap accounting firm This post has been edited by evieta: Dec 8 2015, 05:04 AM |
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Jan 14 2016, 09:38 PM
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QUOTE(AstonCheah @ Jan 14 2016, 11:13 AM) ok, i searched "TAFE malaysia" the top 4 results are below, so which is the correct one? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technical_a...rther_education TAFE, u can study online but I think u need to be in Australia to enrol for it. Means I dun think can take the course online from Msia. Before I move to aust , I wanted to enrol to a tafe course from Msia , the institute say I can only enrol when I am in aust even tho I was already a pr. I didn't check if this applies to all institute or just that particular one .http://www.tafeseremban.edu.my/ http://www.tafeseremban.edu.my/full-width.html https://www.tafesa.edu.au/international/age...agents-malaysia http://www.skillsmalaysiainvite.gov.my/iac...-tafe-seremban/ few more questions: 1. do they have any online study? or are they available in penang? 2. you mean i need to take and finish the course only to be able to apply 457 visa? 3. what course is recommended? how about software programming? thanks. 457 visa is employer sponsored visa.. U can't apply for it without any aust employer wanting to hire u. Software programming ... job market is not good for iT sector , many migrants wit PR and degree + extensive exp in software programming also can't get a job. Are you aware of the bad job market here ? Recommendation would be to do any blue collar courses like plumbing, electrician etc U have a lot of reading and understanding to do about Aust... Aust is a nice country but it's not for everyone. This post has been edited by evieta: Jan 14 2016, 09:39 PM |
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Jan 18 2016, 05:26 AM
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QUOTE(daylight_dancer @ Jan 17 2016, 10:37 PM) How come ah.Maybe that TAFE only. I guess that could be the reason . I didn't have an Aussie contact number back then .I'm doing a Cert IV so far only req is that either you're an NZ/ AU citizen or PR. I have an Aussie address and contact number so ok lah. |
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Mar 8 2016, 05:23 AM
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QUOTE(marbel_tan @ Mar 7 2016, 12:04 AM) How do I get an employer to sponsor my working visa before I arrive Australia? I believe that there are shortage in some jobs that the locals are not willing to do and require foreigners. I have a degree from Australia but the biggest problem now is I can't bring all my relevant certificates on a tourist visa or risk facing deportation due to intention to work. I have view a few ways but there are certain limitations: Well.. Best way for anyone without PR who wanna work here is to get a 457 sponsor..What kind of work are you looking for? Try securing for an interview before you buy your flight ticket to Australia for interview. Working Holiday Visa: Only applies to 100 lucky Malaysians yearly if not mistaken and valid for 12 months. I believe the demand will be much more and another barrier will be the hassle of extending the visa. Skilled Migration 189: The cost is the problem around AUD 6,000 I saw from few comments above. I am on a low budget and do not have so much cash plus I have relative in Melbourne and Sydney so accommodation and food will not be a problem. The best way for me is 457 by getting the employer to sponsor so I can save the visa cost and live there for at least 4 years which I believe can qualify for PR. Question is how? I can't go for an interview on a tourist visa and even if permitted, what about if I failed in the interview I have wasted the flight ticket all the way to Australia. This is not like Singapore where I can just take a bus or ETS train and return on the same day. Arghhhhhhhhhh!!! if you plan to come here to hunt for an employer who is willing to sponsor you a 457, I trust you are aware that chances of getting even an interview is very low.nthere are people who came on working holiday visa tried 1 year and still can't get a 457 to stay on in Australia. What degree did you study? Not on the skill occupation list to qualify for PR? I do know ppl who came here with 'student' visa.. They have some working rights .. Up to 20 hours a week but illegally they work more than 20 hours and the business pays them in cash. Some of them do go for classes but some don't. These are waitressing jobs... If you are looking for a proper corp job... Good luck! |
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May 16 2016, 06:13 AM
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QUOTE(xoxlifestyle100 @ May 15 2016, 03:36 PM) 1. You should learn how to respect people. It's very unsightly to see someone belittle another person and then tramp on the possibly and unproven difficulties of a person by your standards which is not even the focus of my post. Hello... You are absolutely right. I can confirm that you do not need 3 years of work experience to get 189 for accountant. You accounting degree from Monash is sufficient to get a positive skill assessment from Cpa. I think a lot of people including some migration agents do not understand that the work experience falls under the employment assessment category which is an optional / complementary assessment by Cpa/icaa/ipa if you want to claim additional points for pr application purposes.2. To answer your question. I have nothing. I said after graduation I am looking to apply 189 or 489. (I definitely can't apply for 190 so that is out of the question as that requires state nomination). But I am a little short handed to apply for 189 as I need all band 8 in Ielts General to have enough points. However, for 489 would be possible and I have all the documents ready. So I am contemplating whether to sit for ielts again for 189 or not as there is a clear regional limitation to 489. Btw the 489 visa allows you to apply for 887 (PR) if you meet the requirement. 3. Personally, I too don't think Monash Graduates deserve high regards, so we can agree on that. Cheers. All you need to do is focus on your ielts to get a band 8 and pray they don't change any rules for accountants... i heard rumours that accoutant may need 65 points instead of 60 to get invitation. you may want to check further on this. I would think that you should take ielts to get a band 8 and put in your application asap. The rules changes every year and the best way is still to secure your pr asap. Employment wise, it may take some time to get a job in your field but there are any cafes and restaurant around for you to take up a temporary job which would pay enough for you to live comfortably while waiting to get a permanent job. All the best! This post has been edited by evieta: May 16 2016, 06:24 AM |
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May 17 2016, 06:51 AM
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QUOTE(xoxlifestyle100 @ May 16 2016, 06:34 PM) Thanks, I'll look into that!! Well my bro got a band 9 overall and he is Chinese ed. So it's possible. I have seen so many people esp from China who moved here since young that are good in both Mandarin and English. On a side note, I think we Malaysians (assuming everyone here are Malaysians), really lack the ability to encourage people and be constructive as much as wanting to throw cold hard facts.. Speaking of which I have also met people who got IELTS all Band 9 on the first try.. Ever heard of confirmation bias? Google it up... Perhaps your perception on how you view other matters in life would change. Of course just my 2 cents. Cheers. If you are getting a 189 visa and your English is good, I do not see why would it would be hard to get a job in your field. As you are graduating soon, I gather you would be joining one of the big 4s in Singapore or Malaysia. So by the time u get a PR, you should have some work experience. make your work experience in Malaysia/Singapore count, be hardworking, try to be the most outstanding staff in your batch, make your partner, managers and seniors love your work and they may even agree to transfer you to aust once your PR is approved. If I am you, I'll probably head to Singapore to work while waiting for my PR to be approved. You are still young, you have time to plan and I am sure you will be here one day! |
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QUOTE(z21j @ May 17 2016, 10:47 AM) What if you are among the lucky one that got offer from Big4 Australia straight as fresh graduate (subclass 457)? Will you go straight to accept the offer? The fact is that Australians themselves are looking out opportunities in Singapore/UK/North America due to the weakening of AUD. I'll just comment on the comparison between Aust and Malaysia. Aus pay is "high", but the disposal income is lower. Life good? That's depends. Speaking from my experience/observation, the effective income tax rate as a senior auditor is approximately 4% in SG, 2% in Malaysia, 16.5% in Japan and 26% in Australia. Million dollar question is, whether you will be better off in Australia if you are foreigner, single, fresh graduate/minimal experience and no Aus property in hand. I would think that you are still better off in Australia even though the disposable income is lower in Malaysia . Simply because the currency is stronger. I googled the average income for senior auditor in Australia is AUD 67k per annum. I used the ato comprehensive tax calculator (assume net of super) and the annual tax is around aud 15k. The effective tax rate is around 22% and take home pay per mth is AUD 4.3k. Say in Malaysia a senior auditor earns RM 67k (assume net of Epf) a year and the annual tax is rm 2.7k. The effective tax rate is ard 4% and take home pay is RM5.3k. If you think staying in Malaysia is better off because eating out is cheaper and you probably don't need to buy house because you live and would inherit a family home then perhaps, Malaysia would be better for you. Otherwise, with rm5.3k take home pay in Malaysia per month, it's really hard to save to even buy a house. Travel to First world countries would cost few mths salary and buying a car would cost at least rm 50k. With a take home pay of AUD 4.3k.. You def have a stronger purchasing power. Buying a brand new car only cost AUD 24k. Rent for one room is around AUD 800 a week? Travel to Europe and US is easier than if earning RM. |
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May 18 2016, 06:09 AM
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QUOTE(xoxlifestyle100 @ May 18 2016, 01:36 AM) Btw, anyone here applied for any accounting related roles before? I would like to have a few questions though Answers :1. If we are staying in Malaysia, can we still apply through IPA or ICAA for skill assessment? Since to the best of my knowledge I only know CPA office is at Mid Valley. 2. In ICAA and CPA skill assessment it states "quantitative methods" (as far as i know it's a master's level finance subject or engineering subject or universities such as UniMelb has this subject. So is there any possibility that it actually meant "Business Statistics"?. Because in IPA website it says Business Statistics. 3. I have read somewhere else in other forums that if we meet 9 out of the 12 core knowledge areas we will most likely get a positive skill assessment too. Are these the 12 core knowledge areas and is this fact true? Mandatory subjects : Accounting Systems and Processes Financial Accounting Management Accounting Finance Optional : Auditing Commercial Law Economics Quantitative Methods Accounting Information Systems Taxation Law Corporations Law Accounting Theory 4. Can someone share their skill assessment experience here? Thanks! 1. Yes you can use ipa and Icaa. Just google migration assessment ipa or icaa and the respective site will take you through the process. As they do not have presence in Malaysia, u will need to certify docs and post it to them. Where as for Cpa, you can bring ur photocopy n ori to their office to certify for free and they will post the docs to aust for the assessment. If u use Cpa, can save from certification n postage cost. 2. Seems to me it's business's stats but I cannot confirm. You can email/call cpa or ipa or icaa to confirm. Or anyone else can confirm.. 3. http://www.cpaaustralia.com.au/become-a-cp...nd-requirements Looks like quantitative mtds and econ are now mandatory subjects also. 4. I used CPA becos I am a member the assessment is free for full members. If you qualify to enter CPA program, even not full member yet, you shud be able to get a positive assessment. Basically just provide the list of documents required on the cpa website, submit and wait 6 weeks (if I rmb correctly). Then wait for outcome or whether they need more supporting documents. Just to share...my fren grad from HELP( uk degree).. She went to the uni to get the syllabus for the icaa assessment and apparently the uni already have it because a few ex students had the same request before . |
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QUOTE(immabee @ May 25 2016, 11:08 PM) Hi guys, just to confirm. Basically no visa is required if I were to go to Australia to activate my permanent residence for the first time? Also, when I arrive there, I don't have to queue at the visitors line when going through immigration right? There is no need to apply another visa when u validate your PR.. Since u are already a PR. Just have a copy of your visa grant notice with you just in case they wanna check.If u are still holding a Malaysian passport then I believe you still need to queue on the foreign passport lane at the immigration. This post has been edited by evieta: May 26 2016, 03:41 AM |
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QUOTE(Nemesis1980 @ Jul 6 2016, 02:09 PM) bear in mind, visa 457 will get paid peanuts....they'll squeeze you like lemon later based on current economy situation. Not sure about the old rules but ...The total points above is 70 points .i suggest get yourself PR then slow slow lai.....my advice... checking based on this website, last time i aged 32 required 65 points. seems point has dropped to 60 now based on below points:- age 32: 30 foreign experience 9years: 15 edu (Oz degree): 15 Oz study: 5 state sponsor: 5 IELTS (band6): 0 |
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QUOTE(anything98 @ Jul 12 2016, 02:52 PM) Any company there is hiring? just wanted to let you know that a friend graduated from Aussie Uni and couldn't find a job in a legal firm even though he has working rights in Australia. He graduated more than 6 months ago. I am just graduated from UK with a law degree but does not really wan to practise. Thinking to migrate and to live in peace life oversea. It's not easy to get a job in a legal firm here if you do not have local experience. This post has been edited by evieta: Jul 13 2016, 06:35 AM |
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QUOTE(kendall_e @ Aug 2 2016, 12:32 AM) Thanks for ur response! But im not sure if anyone gets my question right I don't think it's illegal to come here on a tourist visa and apply for job hoping to land an interview here. The way I see it, applying for jobs can be done online, you can apply for jobs anywhere.I don't intend to work illegally with my tourist visa.. I'm just wondering if anyone had any luck landing on an interview while visiting as a tourist, and then the employer wants to hire you and get a visa for you so you return and work legally. There is one person i know who flew here for 3 mths on a tourist visa to find a job and got a job here under 457. This person is in healthcare industry and has an Aussie degree. you can try but I have not seen any marketing executive getting hired this way. I believe the position in the area of marketing is very competitive here. Unless you are multilingual or have some good exp to offer.. It is unlikely an employer will be willing to bear the high cost of sponsoring the 457 visa to hire you. But I could be wrong, you can try. If you don't try, you won't know. I have met people here from all over the world, they landed here on various circumstances. Not all came through the legal way but their employers grew on them and they got the PR eventually. Why not apply defacto partner visa first? You will have working rights and can apply for jobs when you come visit your partner for holiday before you move here permanently. This post has been edited by evieta: Aug 2 2016, 06:25 AM |
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QUOTE(Nemesis1980 @ Aug 2 2016, 10:26 AM) Problem is if anyone who holding tourist visa, bringing their CV/Cert or hand tools, you better don't get caught. Custom will give you heaps of questions. Worst case is sending you on the next flight. I think everyone knows the right way of doing things. But not everyone have enough points or a skill on the sol to get working rights here. But if they have strong desire to move here and are determined and willing to take the risk.. I think they just need a little encouragement.Don't play2 ar....go thru the proper route, don't take risk. Not worth doing that. |
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QUOTE(daylight_dancer @ Aug 2 2016, 07:00 PM) I don't think it's about encouragement. It's either you have it or you don't. Fact is some people don't and there could be reasons why. There may be even alternatives but definitely not the illegal route; if you get caught you'll probably be blacklisted or something of the sort. I don't think there is a need to be annoyed by people who are just trying hard to get here. If you already have the PR ... Good on you. People who have made the decision to work here illegally would already know the risks. They wish to do so despite the risks. I would just wish them the best of luck. Like what Nemesis said, the reality here is really harsh. I've met Malaysians who couldn't pass the IELTS and hence they didn't meet the minimum language requirements. They were given chances to retake the test or try something else. Some can't spend the $ so they end their quest then and there. The problem with Malaysians is a lot seem to think that the wrong/ illegal way is still okay. And some bring that kind of attitude over to Aus, where it never ends well. Very annoying and sad really, for the rest of us who don't do things this way. |
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