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TSlucifah
post Nov 22 2006, 03:25 PM, updated 6y ago

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OK. this thread is not for the faint at heart.

This thread serves the purpose to help those with an annual income exceeding RM70,000 or businessess where you can't alter your profit or loss

the question:

How do I reduce my income tax?

Of course, some of my ways would be:

1. Increase expenditure
2. Buy lots of assetts - vehicles h&p, building s&p, etc
3. Pay high salary to "family employees"
4. pay zakat
5. computer - rm 3,500 insta-rebate (sadly, every 3 yrs only)

any of you got any more ideas? i do hope LYN hs some real accountants / editors who can share their thoughts on how to reduce the taxes without breaking any law
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post Nov 22 2006, 03:46 PM

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hehehe...have lotsa children....each children will get u rm1000 deduction...

it depends on whether ur a fixed income earner or running a business...if ur doing business, then there are more ways of tax avoidance...if ur under employment, just make sure to:

-make sure ur EPF+life insurance is rm6k and do not exceed
-educational insurance/medical insurance around rm3k
-buy shares, in which u can use the sec 110 setoff to deduct ur tax payable...
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QUOTE(lucifah @ Nov 22 2006, 03:25 PM)

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buy vehicle can deduct mei? The 3.5k for computer is not a rebate ler. Its a deduction only.
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Books are deductible... make sure you keep the receipt
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post Nov 22 2006, 07:06 PM

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QUOTE(Singh_Kalan @ Nov 22 2006, 03:52 PM)
buy vehicle can deduct mei?  The 3.5k for computer is not a rebate ler. Its a deduction only.
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the hire & purchase agreement is tax-deductible (since you pay the setem cukai / hasil there already)


QUOTE(tasnim @ Nov 22 2006, 04:17 PM)
Books are deductible... make sure you keep the receipt
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that's only RM500.00 and i've maxed that out with newspapers & mag subscriptions
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post Nov 22 2006, 07:08 PM

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3. Pay high salary to "family employees"

I would say is the best one.....
put all sort of expenses into their "salary package" smile.gif
vacation, transportation, meal allowance....etc...tat could mean a lot...
even go shopping also can claim....
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buying educational books can help, bring the recipt. I thought there was one article in the newspaper about it. Tried LHDN website?
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post Nov 22 2006, 10:45 PM

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QUOTE(mystvearn @ Nov 22 2006, 08:39 PM)
buying educational books can help, bring the recipt. I thought there was one article in the newspaper about it. Tried LHDN website?
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educational books or even comic books are considered under the rm500 rebate for books, which i have maxed out since early of the year

that leaves about rm 9,500+ to pay the govt wink.gif
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Here's a list of personal relief which might help you :

This only apply to resident individuals. These relief are not available to you if you're not an resident individual.

Section 46
a) Personal relief : RM8000
b) (i) Medical expense for parents : RM5000(max)
(ii) Medical expense for taxpayer(you), spouse and children in respect of serious diseases : RM5000(max)*
c) Basic supporting equipment(i.e. wheelchairs, crutches for disabled taxpayers, spouse or child) : RM 5000
d) Disabled tax payer(Hopefully you don't make yourself one) : RM6000
e) Fees for education in law, accounting, technological, vocational or industrial fields scientific and ICT : RM5000(max)
f) Expense on a complete medical examination : RM500(max)*
g) Purchase of books : RM700

*Total of (f) and (b)(ii) should not exceed RM5000

Section 47
a) Wife/Husband relief(Only for combined assesment) : RM3000
b) Alimony payment(only males can claim) : RM 3000
c) Disabled person(only for combined assesment) : RM 3500

Section 48
This section covers reliefs related to your child/children

a) Normal relief : RM1000 per child
b) Disabled child : RM5000 per disabled child
c) 1) For child studying in overseas(degree level and above) : RM4000
2) For child studying in local institution(Diploma level and above) : RM4000
d) Disabled child satisfying criteria (C) above : RM9000

Section 49
a) EPF & Life insurance premium : RM6000
b) Medical and education premium : RM 3000
c) Purchase of an insurance policy utilising his credit in his EPF account : RM1000

There you go...Please keep in mind once you reduce your chargeable income till NIL, you can't claim any relief anymore...Any questions, please ask.

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post Nov 23 2006, 12:01 AM

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QUOTE(mxxuang @ Nov 22 2006, 11:23 PM)
Here's a list of personal relief which might help you :

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this list is available right out of the income tax booklet

however, all that you had stated must be attached with a valid receipt and supporting documents,

unfortunately, i am very healthy

and no, i am not going agains the law. dun main2 dgn income tax woooo... they know everything wink.gif

i am thinking of "smart" ways that seems to be illegal, but is actually within the governing laws

i know smart accountants and auditors know them. however, when i asked them for advice, they'd cahrge me rm 2,500 for their professional fee, which i am very reluctant to and defeats the main purpose to increase my profit
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QUOTE(lucifah @ Nov 23 2006, 12:01 AM)
this list is available right out of the income tax booklet

however, all that you had stated must be attached with a valid receipt and supporting documents,

unfortunately, i am very healthy

and no, i am not going agains the law. dun main2 dgn income tax woooo... they know everything wink.gif

i am thinking of "smart" ways that seems to be illegal, but is actually within the governing laws

i know smart accountants and auditors know them. however, when i asked them for advice, they'd cahrge me rm 2,500 for their professional fee, which i am very reluctant to and defeats the main purpose to increase my profit
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Well, they are accountants, of course they'll try to make money out of you whistling.gif Anyways in case you're caught cheating on your taxes, the one who advices you on how to cheat your taxes can be caught too. So you don't see many accountants giving you free advices.

If you're a self-employed businessman with your own business you there are more ways you can reduce your taxes as you can claim many of your personal expenses as business deductions. But if you're just a regular 'makan-gaji' worker, there's nothing much you can do, except get married, and have lots of children...

Actually I doubt the IRB would ever knock on your house door asking you to produce the receipts. They rather go after the big guns tax evaders and(of course) ask some duit kopi from them.

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QUOTE(mxxuang @ Nov 23 2006, 12:26 AM)

Actually I doubt the IRB would ever knock on your house door asking you to produce the receipts. They rather go after the big guns tax evaders and(of course) ask some duit kopi from them.
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There are desk audits for Self-Employed (BE Category) & external audits for Businesses (B & P)...No, tax officers won't take any money on the spot nor accept any other offerings... wink.gif ...heck, they even bring the Hasil brand mineral water to maintain independence...

The best way to reduce tax for self-employed is still thru dividends....this is especially the case for company director's and important personnel within the company who earn 5 figure monthly salary....anyway, just remember, having a higher level of annual income would allow u to purchase more property/assets without triggering an investigation.



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QUOTE(lucifah @ Nov 22 2006, 03:25 PM)
OK. this thread is not for the faint at heart.

This thread serves the purpose to help those with an annual income exceeding RM70,000 or businessess where you can't alter your profit or loss

the question:

How do I reduce my income tax?

Of course, some of my ways would be:

1. Increase expenditure
2. Buy lots of assetts - vehicles h&p, building s&p, etc
3. Pay high salary to "family employees"
4. pay zakat
5. computer - rm 3,500 insta-rebate (sadly, every 3 yrs only)

any of you got any more ideas? i do hope LYN hs some real accountants / editors who can share their thoughts on how to reduce the taxes without breaking any law
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Perfectly legal way to reduce your income. Appoint your wife, children and relatives to be non-voting directors of your company. They get pay and they do not have to work. They only have to attend meeting/party every now and then.

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QUOTE(lucifah @ Nov 22 2006, 03:25 PM)
OK. this thread is not for the faint at heart.

This thread serves the purpose to help those with an annual income exceeding RM70,000 or businessess where you can't alter your profit or loss

the question:

How do I reduce my income tax?

Of course, some of my ways would be:

1. Increase expenditure
2. Buy lots of assetts - vehicles h&p, building s&p, etc
3. Pay high salary to "family employees"
4. pay zakat
5. computer - rm 3,500 insta-rebate (sadly, every 3 yrs only)

any of you got any more ideas? i do hope LYN hs some real accountants / editors who can share their thoughts on how to reduce the taxes without breaking any law
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computer is rebate RM500 every 5 years smile.gif

r u seeking tax planning for individual or company?

For company, if the paidup capital is less than RM2.5million, the first Rm500k is taxable @ 20%, so for small company u r advisable to limit up the paidup capital.

U can appoint ur family members as directors as well by paying them directors fees,
hence the EPF rate can be increase from 11% to 19%.

Ur company can frank/issue dividend to directors by using retained earnings, distribution in specie as well. Hence ,the profit of ur company can be spread over to other directors who will be taxed at individual rate. By franking dividend, u have to make sure that there is enough S108 dividend credit in ur company account,else there'll be S106 penalty .

By paying dividend, the recipient can claim S110 set off (rebate at tax payable) @ 28% ,hence the possibility of getting tax refund is high if ur tax paybale rate or marginal rate is lower than 28%

there's more to go... smile.gif

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QUOTE(dreamer101 @ Nov 23 2006, 10:04 AM)
Perfectly legal way to reduce your income.  Appoint your wife, children and relatives to be non-voting directors of your company.  They get pay and they do not have to work.  They only have to attend meeting/party every now and then.

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exactly my plan (see tactic no 3)

is there any minimum age for a director? should the process go through lawyer and be made public thru newspaper?

QUOTE(xcrue @ Nov 23 2006, 10:21 AM)
computer is rebate RM500 every 5 years smile.gif

r u seeking tax planning for individual or company?

For company, if the paidup capital is less than RM2.5million, the first Rm500k is taxable @ 20%, so for small company u r advisable to limit up the paidup capital.

U can appoint ur family members as directors as well by paying them directors fees,
hence the EPF rate can be increase from 11% to 19%.

Ur company can frank/issue dividend to directors by using retained earnings, distribution in specie as well. Hence ,the profit of ur company can be spread over to other directors who will be taxed at individual rate. By franking dividend, u have to make sure that there is enough S108 dividend credit in ur company account,else there'll be S106 penalty .

By paying dividend, the recipient can claim S110 set off (rebate at tax payable) @ 28% ,hence the possibility of getting tax refund is high if ur tax paybale rate or marginal rate is lower than 28%

there's more to go... smile.gif
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moar. moar

(somehow, i sense that you are an auditor lurking inLYN forum wink.gif)

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QUOTE(lucifah @ Nov 23 2006, 10:27 AM)
exactly my plan (see tactic no 3)

is there any minimum age for a director? should the process go through lawyer and be made public thru newspaper?
moar. moar

(somehow, i sense that you are an auditor lurking inLYN forum wink.gif)
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Lucifah,

1) There is a difference. A director can still be working for someone else. Let say your son is working for company XYZ now. You can appoint your son to be director of your company while he is working for company XYZ. He cannot be a worker for both your company and XYZ company at the same time.

2) Unless you are a bumi, if your paid-up capital is 250K or higher, you have to give 30% of your company to a bumi. NEP applies.

3) What you need is a good accountant.

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LOL>.

tell u how la

donate to the charity

and claim it from income tax...and the charity gv u how many percents back its legally yes
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QUOTE(lucifah @ Nov 22 2006, 07:06 PM)
that's only RM500.00 and i've maxed that out with newspapers & mag subscriptions
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Is it any limitation to the types of book? Only limit to education type book? or any book will do? For example those personal finance book can?
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QUOTE(lucifah @ Nov 22 2006, 03:25 PM)

How do I reduce my income tax?

Of course, some of my ways would be:

3. Pay high salary to "family employees"
Make sure the "family employees" tax rate is lower than that of your co. smile.gif

1 often used technique. Time your holidays during some conference/seminar related to your business. Fly first class, stay in the most expensive hotel money can get you ( all this as stated in the invoice. Where you eventually stay or exchange your 1st class tkt to economy class for 2 pax, well,... ...

Charge it all to the Co...all expenses paid holiday!

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Is it we only be taxed when our annual income exceeds RM70k? I mean personal income tax here, as a normal employee.

If my annual income is RM70k, then the insurance premium is tax deductible, so, will I be taxed anymore?
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QUOTE(leekk8 @ Nov 23 2006, 04:33 PM)
Is it we only be taxed when our annual income exceeds RM70k? I mean personal income tax here, as a normal employee.

If my annual income is RM70k, then the insurance premium is tax deductible, so, will I be taxed anymore?
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shocking.gif doh.gif . WTF...u r saying u never pay tax b4?? It's difficult to say how much income only taxable bcoz of the deductible expenses and rebate. As a guideline, its above RM2.5k p.m or RM30k p.a. But at RM70k p.a u definitely need to pay tax. No wonder our tax coffer is not full. laugh.gif notworthy.gif
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QUOTE(Singh_Kalan @ Nov 23 2006, 04:37 PM)
shocking.gif  doh.gif . WTF...u r saying u never pay tax b4??  It's difficult to say how much income only taxable bcoz of the deductible expenses and rebate.  As a guideline, its above RM2.5k p.m or RM30k p.a.  But at RM70k p.a u definitely need to pay tax.  No wonder our tax coffer is not full.  laugh.gif  notworthy.gif
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Singh Kalan,

I just start work less than 1 year, and my income is not even 2k per month, so I don't think I need to pay tax. However, I wish to learn more about this income tax stuff....

So, if my income deduct all the tax deductible expenses, exceeds RM30k p.a., then I need to pay tax, right?

How about the allowance and claims that I get? Will they be included as my income, or just my salary is counted?

I'm newbie in working life...so trying to learn and learn....
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QUOTE(leekk8 @ Nov 23 2006, 04:51 PM)
Singh Kalan,

So, if my income deduct all the tax deductible expenses, exceeds RM30k p.a., then I need to pay tax, right?

How about the allowance and claims that I get? Will they be included as my income, or just my salary is counted?

I'm newbie in working life...so trying to learn and learn....
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Not necessarily. In fact ur income minus all the deductible, if more than RM2.5k is taxable already (1%) and up.

For allowance, some companies file it some don't. Dont know the reason. Like my case, my allowance r almost same like my basic salary, but my company didn't file it, so no need to pay tax lo. laugh.gif
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Is it any limitation to the types of book? Only limit to education type book? or any book will do? For example those personal finance book can?

So computer is rebate RM500 every 5 years or 3.5K every 3 yrs? Confused sad.gif

Let say i buy computer this year (2006), but can i only claim it on 2nd (2007) or 3rd year (2008)?

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Before this year announced budget, it is a RM500 rebate in 5 years means that you only can claim once in every 5 years and one off straight away get Rm500 rebate for that year and can't claim after another 5 years. But this has changed next year, it become a RM3500 relief, not rebate for every 3 year.
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QUOTE(Singh_Kalan @ Nov 23 2006, 06:11 PM)
Not necessarily. In fact ur income minus all the deductible, if more than RM2.5k is taxable already (1%) and up.

For allowance, some companies file it some don't. Dont know the reason.  Like my case, my allowance r almost same like my basic salary, but my company didn't file it, so no need to pay tax lo.  laugh.gif
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Normally it wont be a problem at all if you dont pay tax and understate your annual income... But having said so, you also must make sure that you dont go around and start buying assets... thats inviting problems...

Normally you will get over it but once you start to purchase assets like car n house, LHDN will open your file and do a rough estimate on your monthly expenses. If it doesnt work out or when they think its impossible, they will come n nab you... and when they nab you, they do make u pay big time...
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so basically if u tell te government i earn less than this amount but buy assets round this amount
the government will create a nice headlines on the news with u in it?tongue.gif
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QUOTE(medicontherun @ Nov 23 2006, 07:10 PM)
so basically if u tell te government i earn less than this amount but buy assets round this amount
the government will create a nice headlines on the news with u in it?tongue.gif
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exactly. i believe lhdn has had a data mining system in since last year...

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QUOTE(medicontherun @ Nov 23 2006, 07:10 PM)
so basically if u tell te government i earn less than this amount but buy assets round this amount
the government will create a nice headlines on the news with u in it?tongue.gif
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fear IRB

it's more frightening than all along's combined. they have every details of your money and holds every transaction in every commercial bank in malaysia
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QUOTE(Singh_Kalan @ Nov 22 2006, 03:52 PM)
buy vehicle can deduct mei?  The 3.5k for computer is not a rebate ler. Its a deduction only.
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Computer definately is a rebate. Which rebates includes 3 of them - zakat(full amount), chargeable income<RM35k per annum and computer.



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1. Increase expenditure
2. Buy lots of assetts - vehicles h&p, building s&p, etc
3. Pay high salary to "family employees"
4. pay zakat
5. computer - rm 3,500 insta-rebate (sadly, every 3 yrs only)


Buying lots of asset like property or car might work but u r playing with fire...LHDN might ask u back where the heck you get the $$$ to buy those stuffs? oh yeah since you got that much $$$ maybe i should increase the tax of urs hehe

But then if u got reasonable reason then might accepted or works
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QUOTE(leekk8 @ Nov 23 2006, 04:33 PM)
Is it we only be taxed when our annual income exceeds RM70k? I mean personal income tax here, as a normal employee.

If my annual income is RM70k, then the insurance premium is tax deductible, so, will I be taxed anymore?
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Under Individual Assessment

If your annual income is 70k annually,

70k - 6k ( EPF 11%) - 8k (personal relieft) - 3k (insurance premium) = 53k (chargeable income)
Hence, u have to pay TAX RM1,525(on First 35k) and RM2340 ( remaining 18k @ 13%) blush.gif


Actually by using those info u provided isnt enough. tongue.gif

U can claim other relief as well in order to reduce your chargeable income.
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Wife relief (RM3k) ,
Disable wife(Rm3k),
Disable tax payer (RM6k),
Medical Expenses for parents (RM5k),
Medical examination expenses>serious disease for taxpayer, spouse, and children with receipts (rm5k),
Supporting equipment for disable taxpayer,spouse,children or parents (RM5k),
Child relief , >18yrs old studying in local/overseas U/college (RM4k),
disable child (RM5k),
disable child studying in local/overseas Uni/college (rm9k),
EPF or approved fund n life insurance premium (RM6K),
Premium on EPF annuity scheme (RM1k),
Education fees paid by taxpayer for his own improvement(RM5k),
purchase of books,journals,magazines, or other similar publications for the use of taxpayer,spouse or children (RM700),

FOR 2005-2006 PErsonal COmputer rebate is RM500 every 5 yrs,
FOR 2007 RM3000 every 3 years

Other rebates including Wife(joint assessment RM350), zakat n fitrah RM350

In order to reduce your chargeable income,u can claim reliefs as above in order to reduce your chargeable income.

Besides, u can set off your tax payable amount by S110 set off (DIVIDEND INCOME@28%), S 132 bilateral relieft, S133 unilateral relieft, income tax paid under self-assessment- monthly,bi-monthly

As a results, the possilibility of getting REFUND is quite high. icon_rolleyes.gif

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QUOTE(destiny6 @ Nov 23 2006, 11:49 PM)
Buying lots of asset like property or car might work but u r playing with fire...LHDN might ask u back where the heck you get the $$$ to buy those stuffs? oh yeah since you got that much $$$ maybe i should increase the tax of urs hehe

But then if u got reasonable reason then might accepted or works
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What he meant is buying more FIxed asset under company's name,
hence can claim annual n initial allowance (capital allowance) to set off aggregate income thumbup.gif
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btw ihave heard that getting allowance from the company does cause u to be income tax taxable...
is this correct?


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QUOTE(jeremy0 @ Nov 22 2006, 03:46 PM)
hehehe...have lotsa children....each children will get u rm1000 deduction...
the cost of ownership / maintenance is still higher than the deduction you get. smile.gif that also we've not brought in the time / effort involved.

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my boss always says that for those who're too lazy to estimate the income tax, the ammount u're gonna pay is around 1 month of ur salary.
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anyone know if profit for selling share in oversea is taxable or not?

btw, some info here is outdated. Books deduction is RM1000, and computer is deduction, and no more rebate. according to this year budget announcement.
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QUOTE(medicontherun @ Nov 24 2006, 12:39 AM)
btw ihave heard that getting allowance from the company does cause u to be income tax taxable...
is this correct?
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u are totally correct. that is why company like to give elaun. for company, company can escape from epf for u, but as an employee rugi la....1 side kena tax, 1 side boss no epf on it..

So if u are SMART. talk to boss...tell boss to convert the elaun to EPF, which is increase your epf rate. This way, government wil not be able to get your money.

But how much is your salary, if only have few thousand permonth, dont waste time think how to save money, think how to earn more better. Because few thousand salary only need to pay few hundred dollar tax...so give pak lah lah....


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actually those taxable allowance are called BENEFIT IN KIND, eg: accomodation,cars,handphone,drivers,maid n etc.. under section 13 (1).

company can deduct expenses for those allowances that are provided to u, meanwhile u are only taxable on fixed amount basis. In short, which means if your company offer a domestic servant for u, they'll pay the servant's salary for u every months, til end of the year, you are taxable RM4800/annum for it,which meant u are still liable to tax on those benefit. Let's say your taxable rate is 20%, Rm4800 @20% = RM960, and Rm960/12= RM80 , so it's equal to something as you are hiring a servant for RM80/month smile.gif
Actually both side gain benefit as well

For example, House(fully furnished) Rm3360/annum .gardener RM3600/annum, leave passage 3 locals or 1 local n 1 overseas restricted to RM3000/annum, CARS(including petrol) that your company provided to u are taxable base on BIK schedules (too long to elaborate) if u wanna know the rate PM me smile.gif
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any1 got company tax problem?

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Hiya, I am about to work in a months time and have been wondering about tax. I got a couple of questions to ask which I will be highlighting in bold in the following quote.


QUOTE(mxxuang @ Nov 22 2006, 11:23 PM)
Here's a list of personal relief which might help you :

This only apply to resident individuals. These relief are not available to you if you're not an resident individual.

Section 46
a)  Personal relief : RM8000
b)  (i) Medical expense for parents : RM5000(max)
    (ii) Medical expense for taxpayer(you), spouse and children in respect of serious diseases : RM5000(max)*
c)  Basic supporting equipment(i.e. wheelchairs, crutches for disabled taxpayers, spouse or child) : RM 5000
d)  Disabled tax payer(Hopefully you don't make yourself one) : RM6000
e)  Fees for education in law, accounting, technological, vocational or industrial fields scientific and ICT : RM5000(max)
f)  Expense on a complete medical examination : RM500(max)*
g)  Purchase of books : RM700

*Total of (f) and (b)(ii) should not exceed RM5000

Section 47
a) Wife/Husband relief(Only for combined assesment) : RM3000
b) Alimony payment(only males can claim) : RM 3000  what is this?
c) Disabled person(only for combined assesment) : RM 3500

Section 48
This section covers reliefs related to your child/children

a) Normal relief : RM1000 per child
b) Disabled child : RM5000 per disabled child
c) 1) For child studying in overseas(degree level and above) : RM4000
    2) For child studying in local institution(Diploma level and above) : RM4000
d) Disabled child satisfying criteria (C) above : RM9000

Section 49
a) EPF & Life insurance premium : RM6000 Total contribution in a year?
b) Medical and education premium : RM 3000 Is this insurance as well?
c) Purchase of an insurance policy utilising his credit in his EPF account : RM1000

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Just another question in mind. How much life insurance does one actually buy? Anyway to calculate like say 10%of gross salary or something like that?
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guys.. wat is the requirement that have to pay for tax?? for example.. an employee..
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I think most ppl who earn around RM2.5-3k will start to pay income tax. They got a formula for you to calculate one. Once your average monthly income exceed the minimum amount required to pay, then you must pay lor. Simple as that. No shortcut.
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I think most ppl who earn around RM2.5-3k will start to pay income tax. They got a formula for you to calculate one. Once your average monthly income exceed the minimum amount required to pay, then you must pay lor. Simple as that. No shortcut.
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Here a table to sumarise all:

Salary (p.m) - Chargeable Income - Tax Payable
2,000 - 15,360 - 0.00
2,200 - 17,696 - 55.88
2,400 - 20,032 - 127.24
2,600 - 22,368 - 290.76
2,800 - 24,704 - 454.28
3,000 - 27,040 - 617.80
3,200 - 29,376 - 781.32
3,400 - 31,712 - 944.84
3,600 - 34,048 - 1,108.36
3,800 - 36,384 - 1,704.92
4,000 - 38,720 - 2,008.60

Salary based on 12 months pay + 1 month Bonus
Deductible on Self Relief and EPF contribution only
Only those with Chargeable Income of at least RM15,834 may be taxable.

IMPORTANT: The table should be used as reference only. Do not submit your tax return based solely on this figure. laugh.gif

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Lucifah,

1)  There is a difference.  A director can still be working for someone else.  Let say your son is working for company XYZ now.  You can appoint your son to be director of your company while he is working for company XYZ.  He cannot be a worker for both your company and XYZ company at the same time.

2) Unless you are a bumi, if your paid-up capital is 250K or higher, you have to give 30% of your company to a bumi.  NEP applies.

3) What you need is a good accountant.

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how true is this? for non listed company, do we need to give 30% for bumi in equity?
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how true is this? for non listed company, do we need to give 30% for bumi in equity?
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1) Yes, it is true. Check with your accountant. The rule is in the book. The question is whether it is enforced or not, I have NO idea.

2) Make sure your paid up capital is less than 250K.

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1)  Yes, it is true.  Check with your accountant.  The rule is in the book.  The question is whether it is enforced or not, I have NO idea.

2) Make sure your paid up capital is less than 250K.

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well, i know some company is 100% owns by chinese with P/U RM1M...unlisted...
when u said enforce or not, wat u mean? there is no such rule imposed on non listed company in general..the rule in the book?> wat book? icon_question.gif
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if the company pays epf to its ppl.. that money is not taxable right?
i mean gov wont tax ur epf money.. will they tax the company for giving u the money?

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no... EPF is not taxable if under Approved fund. smile.gif
Ur employer can even deduct up to 19% EPF against biz income smile.gif
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QUOTE(Singh_Kalan @ Nov 27 2006, 09:47 AM)
Here a table to sumarise all:

Salary (p.m) - Chargeable Income -  Tax Payable
2,000 -              15,360 -        0.00
2,200 -              17,696 -        55.88
2,400 -              20,032 -      127.24
2,600 -              22,368 -      290.76
2,800 -              24,704 -      454.28
3,000 -              27,040 -      617.80
3,200 -              29,376 -      781.32
3,400 -              31,712 -      944.84
3,600 -              34,048 -    1,108.36
3,800 -              36,384 -    1,704.92
4,000 -              38,720 -    2,008.60

Salary based on 12 months pay + 1 month Bonus
Deductible on Self Relief and EPF contribution only
Only those with Chargeable Income of at least RM15,834 may be taxable.

IMPORTANT: The table should be used as reference only.  Do not submit your tax return based solely on this figure.  laugh.gif
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This is the summary after deduct only personal relief of RM8000.smile.gif
<Rm35k chargeable income got Rm350 rebate as well.

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well, i know some company is 100% owns by chinese with P/U RM1M...unlisted...
when u said enforce or not, wat u mean? there is no such rule imposed on non listed company in general..the rule in the book?> wat book? icon_question.gif
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Ts1,

1) Is it a private limited company??

2) I talked with accountant and there is such a rule and some times the government choose not to enforce this rule. This is Malaysia.

3) It might be officially 4 to 5 companies that split the 1 million paid up capital.

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QUOTE(dreamer101 @ Nov 28 2006, 02:44 AM)
1)  Yes, it is true.  Check with your accountant.  The rule is in the book.  The question is whether it is enforced or not, I have NO idea.

2) Make sure your paid up capital is less than 250K.

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If loss making Co sure not enforce onelah but if highly profitable sure kena give 30%.
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If everyone is trying to reduce their income tax, then the government will have no choice but to increase the tax. If everyone pays their tax, still pointless, because the money is always used for wrong purpose, corruption, etc, if only corruption is not around . . .
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i realli unaware of it..if there is a link or acts i can read...more convincing..company acts dun know got or not

will ask company secretary if free
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QUOTE(xcrue @ Nov 28 2006, 10:19 PM)
Good1
This is the summary after deduct only personal relief of RM8000.smile.gif
<Rm35k chargeable income got Rm350 rebate as well.
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Include EPF contribution deduction also.

TIPS of the DAY:-
If your chargeable income is around RM35k, buy more books or get a computer to make sure its below that amount in order to get a RM350 rebate.
Deduction:-
Books - Rm1000 max
Comp - RM3000 max (once in 3 year only)
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Can anyone clarify about how this NEP is implemented?

I mean, the 30% equity comprises of what, and how, actually?



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Can anyone clarify about how this NEP is implemented?

I mean, the 30% equity comprises of what, and how, actually?
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Please start a new thread. This is OT. I know I am guilty of that too.

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educational books or even comic books are considered under the rm500 rebate for books, which i have maxed out since early of the year

that leaves about rm 9,500+ to pay the govt wink.gif
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any book also can ah? i read somewhere onli self improvement book onli consider for such relief. it mean if it directly can improve ur service then its apply. if it indirectly related to our job, then cant apply. they give example if an engineer buy accounting book, then cannot get that relief la. neway is it relief or rebate?




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ok..what's the different between relief and rebate.im not in the working force.still studying.but this thread is interesting.sorry if the question seems dumb
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QUOTE(xcrue @ Nov 23 2006, 10:21 AM)
computer is rebate RM500 every 5 years smile.gif

r u seeking tax planning for individual or company?

For company, if the paidup capital is less than RM2.5million, the first Rm500k is taxable @ 20%, so for small company u r advisable to limit up the paidup capital.

U can appoint ur family members as directors as well by paying them directors fees,
hence the EPF rate can be increase from 11% to 19%.

Ur company can frank/issue dividend to directors by using retained earnings, distribution in specie as well. Hence ,the profit of ur company can be spread over to other directors who will be taxed at individual rate. By franking dividend, u have to make sure that there is enough S108 dividend credit in ur company account,else there'll be S106 penalty .

By paying dividend, the recipient can claim S110 set off (rebate at tax payable) @ 28% ,hence the possibility of getting tax refund is high if ur tax paybale rate or marginal rate is lower than 28%

there's more to go... smile.gif
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haha...study too much of Advance taxation leh...
anyways, the above is what im wish to mention lol... part of it...

QUOTE(lucifah @ Nov 23 2006, 10:27 AM)
exactly my plan (see tactic no 3)

is there any minimum age for a director? should the process go through lawyer and be made public thru newspaper?
moar. moar

(somehow, i sense that you are an auditor lurking inLYN forum wink.gif)
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a company secretary will do the job...
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if free, go and buy Chong Kwai Fatt Malaysian taxation books lol mainly for individual and some company tax...

there got mention all the tax... law... and some taxation planning ...

advance taxation is for company...
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ok..what's the different between relief and rebate.im not in the working force.still studying.but this thread is interesting.sorry if the question seems dumb
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relief deduce from gross income. rebate deduce from tax chargeable to get the final number. correct me if wrong. i'm newbie too blush.gif
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QUOTE(Invince_Z @ Dec 2 2006, 12:40 PM)
Me 3. Haha..totally correct.
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QUOTE(vin_ann @ Dec 10 2006, 08:35 PM)
haha...study too much of Advance taxation leh...
anyways, the above is what im wish to mention lol... part of it...
a company secretary will do the job...
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HAHA.. i gonna crazy with it.. laugh.gif
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how much annual income is eligible for tax?
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relief deduce from gross income. rebate deduce from tax chargeable to get the final number. correct me if wrong. i'm newbie too  blush.gif
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nicely put. you're correct.

BTW you can easily verify this by looking at your tax form. See at which stages of the tax calculation they use the terms 'relief' and 'rebate'.
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Personal salary RM2.5k per month subject to income tax?
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Personal salary RM2.5k per month subject to income tax?
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QUOTE(ngclee @ Feb 10 2008, 01:15 PM)
Personal salary RM2.5k per month subject to income tax?
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2.5 equates 30k per annum. just keep quiet and the LHDN won't bugger you


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For makan gaji ppl so hard to run away from income tax, my wife bonus 10k, income tax makan 3k... habis
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QUOTE(ngclee @ Feb 10 2008, 01:15 PM)
Personal salary RM2.5k per month subject to income tax?
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IINM, any amount you earn, even 1k/mth, you need to fill up the BE form and declare to LHDN, although no tax, just for their filing purpose, and it may be useful for you to apply loans, etc.



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There are desk audits for Self-Employed (BE Category) & external audits for Businesses (B & P)...No, tax officers won't take any money on the spot nor accept any other offerings... wink.gif ...heck, they even bring the Hasil brand mineral water to maintain independence...

The best way to reduce tax for self-employed is still thru dividends....this is especially the case for company director's and important personnel within the company who earn 5 figure monthly salary....anyway, just remember, having a higher level of annual income would allow u to purchase more property/assets without triggering an investigation.
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no no no ...
you are wrong.

every1 of us will be tax audit once for every 5 years. tht's the IRB target. so do keep ur receipts and whatever supporting documents up to 7 years.

at the movement, dividend can be reduce tax, but in the coming next 5 years, dividend will not able to help us to reduce tax via S110 tax credit.

as now is the transision period for the Single tier tax dividend.
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QUOTE(lucifah @ Nov 22 2006, 03:25 PM)
OK. this thread is not for the faint at heart.

This thread serves the purpose to help those with an annual income exceeding RM70,000 or businessess where you can't alter your profit or loss

the question:

How do I reduce my income tax?

Of course, some of my ways would be:

1. Increase expenditure
2. Buy lots of assetts - vehicles h&p, building s&p, etc
3. Pay high salary to "family employees"
4. pay zakat
5. computer - rm 3,500 insta-rebate (sadly, every 3 yrs only)

any of you got any more ideas? i do hope LYN hs some real accountants / editors who can share their thoughts on how to reduce the taxes without breaking any law
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Should be auditors instead of editors.


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1 noob question here,

my current salary is less than 2.5k but if i add my allowances and bonus, my annual income will definitely more than 30k. will i get tax for that?
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QUOTE(mucklampir @ Dec 10 2006, 07:28 PM)
any book also can ah? i read somewhere onli self improvement book onli consider for such relief. it mean if it directly can improve ur service then its apply. if it indirectly related to our job, then cant apply. they give example if an engineer buy accounting book, then cannot get that relief la. neway is it relief or rebate?
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Any books as long as you have receipt with the correct codes... so buy books from Borders, MPH or Kino...

QUOTE(cute_boboi @ Feb 25 2008, 11:03 AM)
IINM, any amount you earn, even 1k/mth, you need to fill up the BE form and declare to LHDN, although no tax, just for their filing purpose, and it may be useful for you to apply loans, etc.
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That and to avoid a kena denda... tongue.gif my friend doesn't have to pay tax but didn't submit his borang then kena denda shakehead.gif

QUOTE(uNeVErwaLkaloNe @ Feb 26 2008, 11:46 AM)
1 noob question here,

my current salary is less than 2.5k but if i add my allowances and bonus, my annual income will definitely more than 30k. will i get tax for that?
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Yup unless you manipulate... to get a reduction, you can buy medical equipment etc... example walking canes and wheel chair. Keep the receipts and resell the equipment... or you could buy insurance tongue.gif
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QUOTE(vin_ann @ Feb 25 2008, 09:45 PM)
every1 of us will be tax audit once for every 5 years. tht's the IRB target. so do keep ur receipts and whatever supporting documents up to 7 years.
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I thought is random audit. I was audited once several yrs ago tongue.gif They brought out my whole file, and I brought my own photostated file.

She checked and compare, I answer and explain. Lucky she was satisfied tongue.gif No problem so far, I pay my tax... and other ppl pay tax to subsidised my car petrol/toll/etc.

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One quick question. If I buy medical and life insurance for parent, can it be considered as medical expense for parents and deductible from tax? Thanks.
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QUOTE(rollinpark @ Mar 3 2008, 11:24 PM)
One quick question. If I buy medical and life insurance for parent, can it be considered as medical expense for parents and deductible from tax? Thanks.
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Parents medical support like doctor fees, buy medicine, tongkat, wheelchair, etc. = yes.

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I give my donation to WWF (save the planet). RM250 quarterly.
All these deductible from tax. Why not right?

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really a newbie here on taxation.

i'm just wondering, beginning of last year, i'm earning more than 30k per annum, however the company accountant does all the taxation on behalf of the employees, so i have no idea how much have i paid for tax. is this common? officially, last year is the first year i'm being taxed, so i've no idea if i'll receive any notifications on how much i have paid.

also, let's say i paid 3k for my tax last year, am i able to claim deductions if i buy books and computer from last year? or do i keep the receipts and claim at the end of this year?

thanks in advance, i've not come across any topics that can help on taxation, something that has been bugging me for quite some time.
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You should receive an EA form from your company. That will show how much tax you paid last year. Taxation is calculated from January to December every year so your receipts should be within that year too.
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QUOTE(USJprince @ Mar 4 2008, 01:47 PM)
I give my donation to WWF (save the planet). RM250 quarterly.
All these deductible from tax. Why not right?
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Donation deductible must be under the "Seksyen 44(6), ACP 1967", which is normally stated in your donation receipt. You MUST have the receipt.

http://www.hasil.org.my/melayu/bm_NO2_1_1D.asp


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QUOTE(livingmonolith @ Mar 4 2008, 02:47 PM)
really a newbie here on taxation.

i'm just wondering, beginning of last year, i'm earning more than 30k per annum, however the company accountant does all the taxation on behalf of the employees, so i have no idea how much have i paid for tax. is this common? officially, last year is the first year i'm being taxed, so i've no idea if i'll receive any notifications on how much i have paid.

also, let's say i paid 3k for my tax last year, am i able to claim deductions if i buy books and computer from last year? or do i keep the receipts and claim at the end of this year?

thanks in advance, i've not come across any topics that can help on taxation, something that has been bugging me for quite some time.
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last yr = 2007, which is declare in this year (2008)

Your company must provide you EA Form, which states (important points):
1) Total income + Bonus + claims + incentive = "Penggajian", as long as it is stated in EA form
2) Total Income Tax deducted = PCB (Potongan Cukai Berjadual)
3) Total EPF paid by employee (not employer)

In BE Form (Individual Income tax without share dividend)
1) = falls under section (C1)
2) = falls under section (F2) - deduction
3) = falls under section (D12) - deduction on employee contribution only

http://www.hasil.org.my/cP/upload/Form/Nya...orangBE2007.pdf

books = section (D8) - deduction
computer = section (D8A) - deduction

Submit it as per the receipt date. i.e. this year 2008, you must declare all income/receipts dated 2007. There are exceptions though, but let's not confuse you.

Clear ? Any questions ?


Added on March 4, 2008, 7:09 pm
A tip to share with all, some might already know it:

If you buy those all-in-one life insurance (PA + medical + 36 illness + cr@p + etc.) tongue.gif

Take note on the itemised sub amounts.

e.g. total annual premium = rm1000
Life Insurance = rm700 (Under section D12 + employee EPF)
Medical Insurance = rm300 (Under section D13)

Also take note the max 6k and 3k for D12 and D13.


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Public counters for e-filing tax returns

KUALA LUMPUR: More than 100 public counters will be opened nationwide for members of the public to e-file their tax returns before April 30.

The public counters will be stationed at shopping complexes and workplaces.

After the launch of Service to the Taxpayer Month, Inland Revenue Board (IRB) chief executive officer Datuk Hasmah Abdullah said customer service personnel would assist taxpayers in e-filing their 2007 tax returns.

"Employers with a substantial workforce can also request the IRB station our officers for a few hours to help their employees," she said.

If taxpayers have problems filing their returns, they could also use tax agents. From this year onwards, tax agents will use their passwords to file tax returns for their clients, she said.

"In the past, each individual had his own password," she said, adding that individuals could also use any computer terminal when filing their returns.

Hasmah encouraged taxpayers to electronically file their returns because if there were any refunds to be made, e-file returns could be processed faster.

"It will take about three months to process those who file manually, but those who e-file may get it processed within a month," she said.

Last year, IRB processed 392,457 cases of refunds amounting to RM5.3 bil.

Hasmah said that 874,800 individuals electronically filed their tax returns last year.

"We are hoping that more than a million will e-file their returns this year as more people are familiar with (the process)," she said

URL: http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=...4612&sec=nation
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hello sifus...

hope you guys can help me out here, tax filing return very soon, kencing in my pants d...

anyway, i am self-employed (with a registered enterprise, no sdn bhd)...my question is, should i file a personal return or company?or both oso must? very confused...

any tax agents that can help me? or any sifu here within a reasonable fee? those interested pls PM me...

thanks...
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Counters to help public e-File tax returns

KUALA LUMPUR: More than 100 public counters will be opened nationwide to the public to e-File their tax returns before the end of April 30.

The public counters will be stationed at shopping complexes and employees' workplaces.

After the launch of Service to the Taxpayer Month, Inland Revenue Board's (IRB) chief executive officer Datuk Hasmah Abdullah said customer service personnel would assist taxpayers e-File their 2007 tax returns.

"Employers with a substantial workforce can also request the IRB to station our officers at their premises for a few hours to help their employees."

If taxpayers are having problems in filing their returns, she added that they could also use tax agents to e-File their returns. From this year, tax agents will use their passwords to file the tax returns for their clients.

"In the past, each individual had his own password."

Now, she said individuals could also use any computer terminal when filing their returns.

Hasmah encouraged taxpayers to e-File their returns because if there were any refunds to be made, e-File returns would be electronically processed faster.

"It will take about three months to process those who file manually, but those who e-File may get it processed within a month."

URL: http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=...6930&sec=nation
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People know to reduce income tax but do ppl know on how to avoid income tax to be highly chargeable?? is there any method to do that??

personally think that 1 person do more than 1 job is a good way to avoid but make sure that the highest salary for each job should not be greater than 2.5k..

is it the good way to avoid it esp when go oversea like working at spore??
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QUOTE(m o m o @ Mar 4 2008, 09:44 PM)
hello sifus...

hope you guys can help me out here, tax filing return very soon, kencing in my pants d...

anyway, i am self-employed (with a registered enterprise, no sdn bhd)...my question is, should i file a personal return or company?or both oso must? very confused...

any tax agents that can help me? or any sifu here within a reasonable fee? those interested pls PM me... 

thanks...
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For your own sole-proprietor company, have to use B form and not BE form.
http://www.hasil.org.my/cP/upload/Form/Nyata/BorangB2007.pdf

BORANG BE 2007
PEMASTAUTIN YANG TIDAK MENJALANKAN PERNIAGAAN

BORANG B 2007
PEMASTAUTIN YANG MENJALANKAN PERNIAGAAN

I am not a tax agent tongue.gif and I'm not in finance/accounting. Just doing a favour to everyone. You can get a copy of all the forms here.
http://www.hasil.org.my/melayu/bm_NO5_1.asp


Added on March 5, 2008, 3:52 pm
QUOTE(goolie @ Mar 5 2008, 09:49 AM)
People know to reduce income tax but do ppl know on how to avoid income tax to be highly chargeable?? is there any method to do that??

personally think that 1 person do more than 1 job is a good way to avoid but make sure that the highest salary for each job should not be greater than 2.5k..

is it the good way to avoid it esp when go oversea like working at spore??
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An advise from my friend, a certified CPA who has worked in Australia, UK and KL for many years.

For those under employment only and no other job, no need to evade tax. There is no way you can escape, as IRB can trace easily through your EPF monthly contribution table. Or they can check through your company contribution, account. Worse, they audit you individually.

To "reduce" tax, you must setup own business.


Singapore has its own taxation system, max at 20% IINM. There is an agreement between MY-SG to avoid double taxation.


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The third schedule shows the amount of monthly EPF contribution from Employer / Employee
e.g. if you are earning basic rm2500 per month, contribution will be:
employer = rm300
employee = rm275
total = rm575

assuming flat rm575 x 12 mths = rm6900

IRB can easily check in EA form = 275 x 12 = rm3300
or
check directly with KWSP / EPF = rm6900
or
check with your company accountant
or
check with Bank Negara Malaysia.

So, basically no escape if you have EPF contribution.



Another e.g. they found out your monthly EPF is rm1150
By refering to the 3rd schedule:
employer = 600.00
employee = 550.00
total = 1150.00

means your basic salary is :
"From 4,980.01 to 5,000.00"

How to escape if you are under employment ?? except some claims/incentive which is not included in EA form or EPF contribution, etc.
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My salary slip have the column for "monthly tax contribution". Wat this mean?
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QUOTE(g00glesYYl @ Mar 5 2008, 08:19 PM)
My salary slip have the column for "monthly tax contribution". Wat this mean?
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If there is an amount there, it means PCB (Potongan Cukai Berjadual). They have a table to calculate the value, I can't find it yet.

This is to help you to pay tax on a monthly (12x) basis, rather than a lump sump once a year, which may be a burden to some people.

That is why it is important for you to submit the B/BE/etc. forms, and based on the calculation, if there are extra, you can withdraw it out. If insufficient, you just top up a bit only, not big sum of money.

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Juz wan to check wif all the Tax Gurus here...

How do you file your tax claim if you have a part-time job (without epf deduction) besides your normal day job??

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QUOTE(kingkong81 @ Mar 6 2008, 02:06 PM)
Juz wan to check wif all the Tax Gurus here...

How do you file your tax claim if you have a part-time job (without epf deduction) besides your normal day job??
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Basically the part time job you are talking about , is it selling " unit trust" or still working overtime for people on hourly basis ?

All unit trust or insurance agents are deemed to be in " business " of their owns ( whether part time or full time ).

the advatanges are :

1) you can claim for capital allowances , repairs, petrol etc on your vehicle in relation to your business.
2) there are many other expenses like hand phone bills etc that you can claim for " in the production of your business ".

It could be an advantage to put your other earnings ( if significant ) under business income rather mere " other incomes" .

But you have to plan properly like keeping the proper original receipts.

just my 2sen opinion.

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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Mar 6 2008, 01:24 PM)
Basically the part time job you are talking about , is it selling " unit trust" or still working overtime for people on hourly basis ?

All unit trust or insurance agents are deemed to be in " business " of their owns ( whether part time or full time ).

the advatanges are :

1) you can claim for capital  allowances , repairs, petrol etc on your vehicle in relation to your business.
2) there are many other expenses like hand phone bills etc that you can claim for " in the production of your business ".

It could be an advantage to put your other earnings ( if significant )  under business income rather mere " other incomes" .

But you have to plan properly like keeping the proper original receipts.

just  my 2sen opinion.
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Yup, the part-time job i'm talking here refer to my Unit Trust business....

So, even u have another job u can put it as Business setup tax claim?

Else, like wat u mentioned, put it under other income source?
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TS, if you're doing a business, there are many legal tricks to avoid income tax, but if makan gaji, i guess it's harder
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makan gaji still can.... collect everything like buying pc, books & mags lol....ask for receipt....
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QUOTE(*devilelle* @ Mar 6 2008, 02:30 PM)
makan gaji still can.... collect everything like buying pc, books & mags lol....ask for receipt....
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that's why i said makan gaji can only deduct less than doing business......in business, everything can be considered as an expense although for personal use
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QUOTE(kingkong81 @ Mar 6 2008, 02:50 PM)
Yup, the part-time job i'm talking here refer to my Unit Trust business....

So, even u have another job u can put it as Business setup tax claim?

Else, like wat u mentioned, put it under other income source?
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You have 2 sources of incomes :-

1) from fixed employment, allows set off personal allowances ( very limited )
2) Business incomes - derived from unit trusts, insurance, financial planning etc

For (2) You need to submit with a simple profit & loss statement together with a balance sheet ( can ask any tax agent to do for you. )

Then you can claims expenses relevant to these incomes such car expenses, cap allowance, insurance,interest, office exp, HP bills, electricity etc ( relate to the production of unit trusts business ).

without te accounts , income tax dept may tax you as other source without deducting the expenses.

More works to do but you could end up paying less tax with proper tax planning.

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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Mar 6 2008, 05:20 PM)
You have 2 sources of incomes :-

1) from fixed employment, allows set off personal allowances ( very limited )
2) Business incomes - derived from  unit trusts, insurance, financial planning etc

For (2) You need to submit with a simple profit & loss statement together with a balance sheet ( can ask any tax agent to do for you. )

Then you can claims expenses relevant to these incomes such car expenses, cap allowance, insurance,interest, office exp, HP bills, electricity etc ( relate to the production of unit trusts business ).

without te accounts ,  income tax dept may tax you as other source without deducting the expenses.

More works to do but you could end up paying less tax with proper tax planning.
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Yes, with business income, you can reduce the tax. Please take note some deductions/depreciation must be pro-rated or split over X no. of yrs (called amortised ?)

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QUOTE(cute_boboi @ Mar 6 2008, 11:33 AM)
If there is an amount there, it means PCB (Potongan Cukai Berjadual). They have a table to calculate the value, I can't find it yet.

This is to help you to pay tax on a monthly (12x) basis, rather than a lump sump once a year, which may be a burden to some people.

That is why it is important for you to submit the B/BE/etc. forms, and based on the calculation, if there are extra, you can withdraw it out. If insufficient, you just top up a bit only, not big sum of money.
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thr are some amt thr. Only having it this month.

that mean, i need to declare tax this years?
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I need to ask sifu a few questions....i paid tax almost 1k last year and now i need to claim it..

(i) I wear hearing aids...is that classify under orang kurang upaya ??the hearing aids have been paid quite some time ago by my dad.
(ii) The total income minus epf first rite? and then only deduct the rebate??correct?
(iii) i bought 2 laptops last year..one is 3k plus and another one is 2k plus...should i put the 3k plus laptop to get more claim?

Thanks...


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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Mar 6 2008, 05:20 PM)
You have 2 sources of incomes :-

1) from fixed employment, allows set off personal allowances ( very limited )
2) Business incomes - derived from  unit trusts, insurance, financial planning etc

For (2) You need to submit with a simple profit & loss statement together with a balance sheet ( can ask any tax agent to do for you. )

Then you can claims expenses relevant to these incomes such car expenses, cap allowance, insurance,interest, office exp, HP bills, electricity etc ( relate to the production of unit trusts business ).

without te accounts ,  income tax dept may tax you as other source without deducting the expenses.

More works to do but you could end up paying less tax with proper tax planning.
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Thanks....shall ask some more info fr my accountant fren smile.gif
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When is the deadline of tax declaration this years?
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April 31st for BE and June 30th for B
Usually the case
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QUOTE(g00glesYYl @ Mar 6 2008, 10:34 PM)
thr are some amt thr. Only having it this month.

that mean, i need to declare tax this years?
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Officially, if your are working (paid salary+EPF) in 2007, your need to declare 2007 income in 2008.

Income in 2008 (with your PCB) is to declare in year 2009.


Added on March 7, 2008, 11:56 am
QUOTE(arsenal @ Mar 7 2008, 01:43 AM)
I need to ask sifu a few questions....i paid tax almost 1k last year and now i need to claim it..
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I'm not sifu, not qualified accountant/tax consultant. Just based on my knowledge. So... no guarantee, ok ? tongue.gif

QUOTE(arsenal @ Mar 7 2008, 01:43 AM)
(i) I wear hearing aids...is that classify under orang kurang upaya ??the hearing aids have been paid quite some time ago by my dad.
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Yes, hearing aid for you, can claim under Section D3 (2007 BE Form)
"Peralatan sokongan asas untuk kegunaan sendiri, suami / isteri,
anak atau ibu bapa yang kurang upaya
"

Peralatan sokongan asas = basic support device/object

However, the receipt must be dated 2007 (to submit this year) and either no name, or under your name. Parents also can. But not uncle/auntie/grand-father/god-father/etc.

QUOTE(arsenal @ Mar 7 2008, 01:43 AM)
(ii) The total income minus epf first rite? and then only deduct the rebate??correct?
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Yes. Income minus EPF minus bla bla bla... then calculate the taxable amount. Then use the taxable amount minus rebate, minus PCB paid, etc. = Voila! Cukai kena dibayar (underpaid) atau cukai dibayar balik (overpaid)

I think they use a common term (pls correct if wrong)
Reduction(Pelepasan): Deduct from main income calculation
Rebate(Rebat): Deduct from taxable amount calculation

i.e. rebate = better tongue.gif

QUOTE(arsenal @ Mar 7 2008, 01:43 AM)
(iii) i bought 2 laptops last year..one is 3k plus and another one is 2k plus...should i put the 3k plus laptop to get more claim?

Thanks...
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Of course la wink.gif common sense what. But I'm not sure whether it is limited to certain "approved" PC outlets or not hmm.gif


Added on March 7, 2008, 12:02 pm
QUOTE(g00glesYYl @ Mar 7 2008, 09:15 AM)
When is the deadline of tax declaration this years?
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http://www.hasil.org.my/cP/upload/Form/Nya...orangBE2007.pdf
BE 2007
Latest submission date: 30th Apr 2008

http://www.hasil.org.my/cP/upload/Form/Nyata/BorangB2007.pdf
B 2007
Latest submission date: 30th Jun 2008

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QUOTE(cute_boboi @ Mar 4 2008, 06:50 PM)

books = section (D8) - deduction
computer = section (D8A) - deduction

Submit it as per the receipt date. i.e. this year 2008, you must declare all income/receipts dated 2007. There are exceptions though, but let's not confuse you.

Clear ? Any questions ?


Added on March 4, 2008, 7:09 pm
A tip to share with all, some might already know it:

If you buy those all-in-one life insurance (PA + medical + 36 illness + cr@p + etc.)  tongue.gif

Take note on the itemised sub amounts.

e.g. total annual premium = rm1000
Life Insurance = rm700 (Under section D12 + employee EPF)
Medical Insurance = rm300 (Under section D13)

Also take note the max 6k and 3k for D12 and D13.
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Ok, thanks for the info, really helped me a lot.

Regarding the insurance,

I received a letter from my insurance company on my premium amount, as below:

1) Life = RM1,331.60
2) Medical = RM455.90
3) Disability = RM42.50
Total = RM1,830.00

So in this case do I put RM1,331 (1) in D12 and RM498 (2 & 3) in D13, or RM1,374 (1 & 3) in D12 and RM455 (2) in D13?

Do we need to attach the insurance company's letter together with BE form when submitting?

Thanks again...
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QUOTE(livingmonolith @ Mar 7 2008, 02:27 PM)
Ok, thanks for the info, really helped me a lot.

Regarding the insurance,

I received a letter from my insurance company on my premium amount, as below:

1) Life = RM1,331.60
2) Medical = RM455.90
3) Disability = RM42.50
Total = RM1,830.00

So in this case do I put RM1,331 (1) in D12 and RM498 (2 & 3) in D13, or RM1,374 (1 & 3) in D12 and RM455 (2) in D13?

Do we need to attach the insurance company's letter together with BE form when submitting?

Thanks again...
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(1 + 3) in D12
(2) in D13

Why ? Life and disability = under "insurans nyawa", i.e. covers your life

Correct me if I'm wrong.

Nowadays, just submit BE form only. But keep all the proper receipts/calculation/etc attached and file properly yourself for at least 7 years to be on the safe side.

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Hi,
For receipt from hospital, to claim tax under perubatan ibu bapa the receipt is written the parent's name which is the patient. Can it be claimed in this manner? Anyone has any experience on this. Thanks.
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Please take note that it does not matter how expensive the computer we buy, the maximum tax deductible value is just MYR500. And this can only be claimed once every 5 years.
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i just wan to ask for confirmation whether should i pay for income tax...

i have just get the salary increment which >rm2500 since Jan of 2008..may i know whether i should pay the tax or not??or need to wait for 1 year then only pay, that mean pay at next year?
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QUOTE(Anco @ Mar 18 2008, 08:22 AM)
Please take note that it does not matter how expensive the computer we buy, the maximum tax deductible value is just MYR500. And this can only be claimed once every 5 years.
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That was old time, latest term is RM3000 RELIEF every 3 years.
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QUOTE(Anco @ Mar 18 2008, 08:22 AM)
Please take note that it does not matter how expensive the computer we buy, the maximum tax deductible value is just MYR500. And this can only be claimed once every 5 years.
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Computer not RM3000 every 3 years?
max RM 3000
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Income Tax! ( Under Gains or profits from an employment )

INCOME :

1. any income receive outside scope of Malaysia is Non Taxable
2. Resident in Malaysia..( condition normally if u are staying in Malaysia for 182 days or more considered Resident )


Types of Employment Income
1.Wages , Salary , remuneration , leave pay , fee ,commission , bonus , gratuity , perquisite , allowance
2. benefit in kind
3.living accomodation ( housing benefit )
4.refund from unapproved fund ( not approved by IRB )
5.compensation for loss of employment

Personal Relief ( most ppl concern ):
1. yourself - RM8000.00
2. if u have wife , and doing combine assesment then claim - RM3000.00 (if disabled claim more RM3500.00)
3. if urself r disabled person , get another RM6000.00
4. Medical expenses for ur parents , keep the receipts claim up to - RM5000.00 (MAX)
5. Medical expenses for ur self , spouse , child SERIOUS DISEASE -RM5000.00 (MAX)
6. Medical examination up to - RM500.00
7. Basic Supporting equipment for disabled self, spouse , child or parent - RM 5000 (MAX)
8.Fees for expended skills or qualification - RM 5000 (MAX)
9. Expenses on Books for personal use - RM1000.00 (MAX) buy more books!
10. each children below 18 - RM1000.00 each ( if child are disabled claim RM5000.00 ) cannot claim both ...either one
10.1 if child after 18 - RM4000.00 each if they are studying) no study , no relief for u...
10.2 if over 18 , and disabled claim RM 9000.00
11. Life Insurance + EPF - RM 6000.00 (MAX)
12. Medical or education insurance premium for self , spouse or child - RM 3000.00 (MAX)
13. Purchase of a personal computer -RM 3000.00 (MAX) 3 yrs claim 1 time..

If your chargeable Income is less than RM35000.00 , Claim tax rebate for RM 350 , if combined assessment , claim RM700...

Benefit In Kind ( ur own benefit working in the company ):


1. Leave passage - Domestic : maximum 3 times, exempted
Overseas : Max Rm3000.00 ,limited to one leave passage only.

2. Gardener / servant / driver :
if it is under company name , then is BIK
Gardener : RM300/mth (RM3.6k)
Servant : RM400/mth (RM4.8k)
Driver : RM600/mth (RM7.2k)

3. Telephone , under ur company name : Hardware -RM300.00 per year
Bills - RM 300.00 per year

4.Recreational club membership , if paid by employer , only subscription fee is taxable


NEED MORE INFORMATION PLS PM me, I will try to update here.
Thanks.


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I have some illegal question to ask:-

9. Expenses on Books for personal use - RM1000.00 (MAX) buy more books!


If i dun buy but can i still claim RM1000?

4. Medical expenses for ur parents , keep the receipts claim up to - RM5000.00 (MAX)


If, not me to paid, but paid by my mother which she is not working, can i use it for claiming?
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QUOTE(g00glesYYl @ Mar 18 2008, 09:23 PM)
I have some illegal question to ask:-

9. Expenses on Books for personal use - RM1000.00 (MAX) buy more books!
If i dun buy but can i still claim RM1000?

4. Medical expenses for ur parents , keep the receipts claim up to - RM5000.00 (MAX)
If, not me to paid, but paid by my mother which she is not working, can i use it for claiming?
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U dun buy , u din have the receipt , how u claim ooh?
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hello...i would like to ask....since we cannot put last 2 digit for eg. 2500.01...i cant put the 1 sen into the total annual income..should i just round it up???

on another question can i claim the medical bills by my mum, where my aprents both not working but paid by them...can i claim that??

http://www.hasil.org.my/melayu/bm_NO2_1_1K.asp
the table show annual income or monthly income??thanks a lot
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For the Medical Expenses :
this is the definition of the medical expenses

An individual is entitled to claim an amount not exceeding RM5000 in respect of medical expenses expended in that basis year for his parents. It is provided that the claim of medical expenses must be evidenced by a receipt issued by a medical practitioner certifying that the treatment was provided to that individual's parents.


Added on March 18, 2008, 10:00 pmPurchases of Books:

Purchase of books , journals , magazines and other similar type of publications for his own use or use by his wife or child, up to a maximum of RM1000.00 ( before Year end 2007 was RM 700 )


Added on March 18, 2008, 10:11 pmhttp://www.hasil.org.my/english/pdf/FAQBEbi.pdf

check here for more information

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Insurance also got 6k rebate while childs edu got 3k
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QUOTE(g00glesYYl @ Mar 18 2008, 09:23 PM)
I have some illegal question to ask:-

9. Expenses on Books for personal use - RM1000.00 (MAX) buy more books!
If i dun buy but can i still claim RM1000?

4. Medical expenses for ur parents , keep the receipts claim up to - RM5000.00 (MAX)
If, not me to paid, but paid by my mother which she is not working, can i use it for claiming?
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9. Can. Because the receipt does not indicate who's using the book. And its impossible for them to check on the BOOK itself other than the receipt. You can collect all other receipts for book purchases from other people.

4. Yes. Receipts do not bear the payer's name and no one knows who paid for it unless its through credit card/cheque. Otherwise, just claim as your expenses for your parents' medical bill.


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Hi,

If I have exceeded the tax relief under kwsp/life insurance category, can I ask the insurance com to shift some of the balance to medical insurance category. Currently my insurance covers both medical and life. Thanks.

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QUOTE(rollinpark @ Mar 19 2008, 01:02 AM)
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If I have exceeded the tax relief under kwsp/life insurance category, can I ask the insurance com to shift some of the balance to medical insurance category. Currently my insurance covers both medical and life. Thanks.
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I think it depends on your policy. Your insurance company can restructure your insurance statement to show which amount goes to which plan (medical or life)... this way a total break down of your annual premiums can be used for tax relief. It all depends on your insurance company. Talk to your agent/rep.

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QUOTE(happy4ever @ Mar 19 2008, 01:57 AM)
9. Can. Because the receipt does not indicate who's using the book. And its impossible for them to check on the BOOK itself other than the receipt. You can collect all other receipts for book purchases from other people.

4. Yes. Receipts do not bear the payer's name and no one knows who paid for it unless its through credit card/cheque. Otherwise, just claim as your expenses for your parents' medical bill.
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Good. If i am using the e-filling, do i need to submit the receipts? i thought we just need to submit the form.

Sorry, i am just woek for the second yr. i am like ohmy.gif
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QUOTE(goolie @ Mar 18 2008, 10:13 AM)
i just wan to ask for confirmation whether should i pay for income tax...

i have just get the salary increment which >rm2500 since Jan of 2008..may i know whether i should pay the tax or not??or need to wait for 1 year then only pay, that mean pay at next year?
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Should be next yr. 2008 is paying 2007's tax.
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QUOTE(kuntaker @ Mar 18 2008, 03:30 PM)
Computer not RM3000 every 3 years?
max RM 3000
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purchase computer is rm3500 for every 3 years.. previously is 5 years but rm500 only...
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whao..happy4ever , u compute income tax for ur company 1 is it?^^
so geng..^^

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QUOTE(g00glesYYl @ Mar 19 2008, 09:19 AM)
Good. If i am using the e-filling, do i need to submit the receipts? i thought we just need to submit the form.

Sorry, i am just woek for the second yr. i am like  ohmy.gif
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Keep your receipts for 5 years (i think around there). Keep in a folder, and (if possible) scan all your docs for safekeeping.
But chances are, LHDN won't look for you unless you earn A LOT of money.

Once you have submitted, note down your account number/amount to pay and don't delay in payment.
A few selected banks accept payments for LHDN.

QUOTE(kuntaker @ Mar 19 2008, 02:14 PM)
whao..happy4ever , u compute income tax for ur company 1 is it?^^
so geng..^^
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QUOTE(happy4ever @ Mar 19 2008, 02:18 PM)
Keep your receipts for 5 years (i think around there). Keep in a folder, and (if possible) scan all your docs for safekeeping.
But chances are, LHDN won't look for you unless you earn A LOT of money.

Once you have submitted, note down your account number/amount to pay and don't delay in payment.
A few selected banks accept payments for LHDN.
I fill in BE form only la. sleep.gif
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7 years to be exact. but unlikely that LHDN will look for you when you are not a bigshot earning millions a year. because even though you claim RM1000 (max), the deduction does not make a very big difference in your payable tax.

um, is it okay we discuss this here? wink.gif
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u missed out covering donation for charity....
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QUOTE(goolie @ Mar 19 2008, 09:35 AM)
purchase computer is rm3500 for every 3 years.. previously is 5 years but rm500 only...
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r u very sure is RM3500?
mmh...
from wat i check at LHDN also RM 3k le..

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[quote=dinozilla,Mar 19 2008, 03:26 PM]u missed out covering donation for charity....
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thanks..^^
donation only for approved donation ma..
so i guess not everyone donate to approved donation?

or ZAKAT? who give?
fully rebate..if employee..


Added on March 19, 2008, 4:38 pm
I fill in BE form only la. sleep.gif
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ou...okok

i din fill the BE form 1 eh..hee...
i now studying the tax..XD
help ppl to see wat they can do to giv government less tax..^^


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can i claim subscription fees for online nespaper like malaysiakini.com?
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hi, is the personal relief is for 2008 or 2007?
and what about publication like malaysiakini, economist, intl magazines and intl newspaper which only can be read online.? does this include in the relief too?
life insurance- how do you prove it to them ?

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Purchase of books and mags do not cover newspapers.
And certainly, electronic publications don't count.


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Charity must be with receipt right? can it be temple or any charity with receipt?
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QUOTE(hackwire @ Mar 22 2008, 09:37 PM)
Charity must be with receipt right? can it be temple  or any charity with receipt?
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The receipt that only acceptable by IRB only can claim..^^


Added on March 22, 2008, 10:45 pmu buy insurance pay yearly din hv receipt?


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what does that mean acceptable by IRB. What are acceptable to them?
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QUOTE(kuntaker @ Mar 22 2008, 10:44 PM)
The receipt that only acceptable by IRB only can claim..^^


Added on March 22, 2008, 10:45 pmu buy insurance pay yearly din hv receipt?
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bro, it shd be approved by the IRB. (the correct wording)


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QUOTE(hackwire @ Mar 22 2008, 09:37 PM)
Charity must be with receipt right? can it be temple  or any charity with receipt?
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those receipt must hav a chop like "exempted under Section...". the rest, is disallowed for tax deduction. so, dun donate tat often lor.
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QUOTE(vin_ann @ Mar 23 2008, 01:53 PM)
bro, it shd be approved by the IRB. (the correct wording)
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Normally if approved by IRB on donation ,
there will have a serial number for it..
and with a CHOP there say approved by IRB..
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if u wan example i can go take..
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QUOTE(yiivei @ Mar 23 2008, 01:58 PM)
those receipt must hav a chop like "exempted under Section...". the rest, is disallowed for tax deduction. so, dun donate tat often lor.
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not dun donate tat often la..
juz if can, juz donate that can claim from IRB..^^
extra is on urself..^^

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QUOTE(rollinpark @ Mar 12 2008, 11:25 PM)
Hi,
For receipt from hospital, to claim tax under perubatan ibu bapa the receipt is written the parent's name which is the patient. Can it be claimed in this manner? Anyone has any experience on this. Thanks.
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Yes, you can claim perubatan ibu bapa, as long as the receipt has either one of your parents name. However, for GP/clinic receipts, I'm not sure. But should be able to claim it, but this can easily lead to fraud as you know what our local clinics can do...

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Hi, i m new member. learnt alot about income tax info here.

A quuestion here: for insurance agent, entertainment eg: food & beverage bills can be used for tax deduction from gross income?

Thanks.
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QUOTE(cute_boboi @ Mar 24 2008, 05:44 PM)
Yes, you can claim perubatan ibu bapa, as long as the receipt has either one of your parents name. However, for GP/clinic receipts, I'm not sure. But should be able to claim it, but this can easily lead to fraud as you know what our local clinics can do...

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April 31st for BE and June 30th for B
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normally, how much you pay for income tax if you are in rm2k-3k earner per month?

the income tax will be paid in monthly or annual ? ..
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Income tax paid annually...
if ur income below RM2500.00 i think no nid pay..
u can check lhdn website
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Dear all,

This is my first time filling up BE-Form. Wanna check with you all whether can I claim a deduction on personal computer if the receipt is not under my name?

Hope can get soonest reply.

Thanks!
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not very likely la. if IRD allows it, it sets a bad precedent, it will be open to abuse.
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QUOTE(amyho3 @ Apr 9 2008, 03:12 PM)
Dear all,

This is my first time filling up BE-Form. Wanna check with you all whether can I claim a deduction on personal computer if the receipt is not under my name?

Hope can get soonest reply.

Thanks!
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The answer is NO. If you get caught/audited, you can be fined for false declaration or evading tax.

My opinion is not worth it to take that risk.

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I just received my EA form but I have 1 query. I received bonus for Year 2007 in Jan 2008 and March 2008. In my EA form, only include the bonus received in Jan 2008. I asked the admin personnel and she informed that it is because the bonus that I received in March 08 will be added to 2008 EA form. I simplify it as below.

EA for Year 2007: Bonus for 2007 received in Jan 08.
EA for Year 2008: Bonus for 2007 received in Mar 08.

Do I submit my income tax for year 2007 assessment based on the EA form. (Meaning bonus for 2007 received in Mar 08 not included in 2007 assessment)


Kindly advice.

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QUOTE(lucifah @ Nov 22 2006, 07:06 PM)
the hire & purchase agreement is tax-deductible (since you pay the setem cukai / hasil there already)
that's only RM500.00 and i've maxed that out with newspapers & mag subscriptions
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I am totally lost at this one. I am just a normal employee and my car is 27K. I paid 7K down payment and loaned Rm20k for 3 years with a monthly payment of RM624.00.

How much can I claim as rebate/relief and which section of the form should I fill in?

Sorry for noob Q. sad.gif
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QUOTE(lucifah @ Nov 22 2006, 10:45 PM)
educational books or even comic books are considered under the rm500 rebate for books, which i have maxed out since early of the year

that leaves about rm 9,500+ to pay the govt wink.gif
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Books are not rebates, there are only a deductible expense. If you guys are still unsure, download your copy of TAXSAYA

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I am totally lost at this one. I am just a normal employee and my car is 27K. I paid 7K down payment and loaned Rm20k for 3 years with a monthly payment of RM624.00.

How much can I claim as rebate/relief and which section of the form should I fill in?

Sorry for noob Q. sad.gif
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You CANNOT claim the hire purchase against your tax if you are a salary earner. If you run a business then the capital portion (no interest) can be claimed as a capital allowance and the interest can be claimed as a business expense.

I suggest if you are a salary earner download your copy of TAXSAYA and see what can you claim.

taxsingam.blogspot.com


Added on April 10, 2008, 9:29 am
QUOTE(leekk8 @ Nov 23 2006, 04:33 PM)
Is it we only be taxed when our annual income exceeds RM70k? I mean personal income tax here, as a normal employee.

If my annual income is RM70k, then the insurance premium is tax deductible, so, will I be taxed anymore?
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70K should be attracting a tax liability. I suggest you download your FREE copy of TAXSAYA to find out your actual tax liability.

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can claim newspaper subscriptions under books&magazines?
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can claim newspaper subscriptions under books&magazines?
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Nop. Newspaper is not eligible for tax deduction under books & mags


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QUOTE(flamer @ Apr 9 2008, 09:50 PM)
I am totally lost at this one. I am just a normal employee and my car is 27K. I paid 7K down payment and loaned Rm20k for 3 years with a monthly payment of RM624.00.

How much can I claim as rebate/relief and which section of the form should I fill in?

Sorry for noob Q. sad.gif
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Can installment cannot claim la bro, rclxms.gif Unless its under business then can. Salary earner no la.

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Hi, all.

May I know how long it takes for income tax refund? Coz it owes me quite a huge amount. Also, how do they refund the money ar?

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QUOTE(bryansu @ Nov 24 2006, 03:49 PM)
u are totally correct. that is why company like to give elaun. for company, company can escape from epf for u, but as an employee rugi la....1 side kena tax, 1 side boss no epf on it..

So if u are SMART. talk to boss...tell boss to convert the elaun to EPF, which is increase your epf rate. This way, government wil not be able to get your money.

But how much is your salary, if only have few thousand permonth, dont waste time think how to save money, think how to earn more better. Because few thousand salary  only need to pay few hundred dollar tax...so give pak lah lah....
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reimbursed allowances will not be taxable.. just pay the expenses ( electricity, petrol) by yourself first and then claim from your boss...
correct me if im wrong.. im still in the learning process
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Hi, all.

May I know how long it takes for income tax refund? Coz it owes me quite a huge amount. Also, how do they refund the money ar?
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Hi,

If you have not received your refunds from previous years, then you should write directly to Dato' Hasmah (her email is hasmah@hasil.org.my).

At the moment, the refund is paid to via cheque, although next next year the IRB is planning to implement an e-Rufund system which will pay the refund directly into your nominated account.

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Hi TaxSingam,

I'm a professional who works as a contractor to a company. In my case, i'm a sole proprietor so I use B form. What ways can i use to reduce my tax payment legally? Would buying a house and a car fit the bill? If so, how many percent of the house and car worth will be accounted for? Please advice.

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Hi TaxSingam,

I'm a professional who works as a contractor to a company. In my case, i'm a sole proprietor so I use B form. What ways can i use to reduce my tax payment legally? Would buying a house and a car fit the bill? If so, how many percent of the house and car worth will be accounted for? Please advice.

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Being a contractor, does entitle you to claim yourself as a business income deriving individual. As a business, you are trying to claim certain expenses against your income in order to reduce it's taxable amount.

What can you legally claim? It's all in the picture you paint... I mean if you buy a house or a car , and both were used solely for business then the expense in maintaining it would be allowable. If only a percentage was for business, you got to justify this percentage too. Most of the time, people claim 1/3 or 2/3

As to the actual cost of purchase of the house, I don't see how you can claim this. (unless you live in a factory). The car however would be allowed for claim under a mechanism called Capital Allowance. Again provided its fully for business or you apply a percentage of own use normally 1/3 or 2/3 depending on the case.

Bottom line, write a story of your earnings and if your story makes sense most likely it can be claimed. Without knowing exact specific details its difficult to comment. Read up on sec 33(1) & 39 of the Income Tax if you can. That's pretty much the ultimate law governing business individuals.

I shall try to find the time to put a more detailed write up on this matter on my blog ( taxsingam.blogspot.com )

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Hi there.

I need some help on supporting documents for income tax incentives.

e.g. On education fees.

What happens if I could not get hold of the official receipt? Are there any possible ways out?

Thanks. Would really appreciate some help here. smile.gif

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QUOTE(bellz_princess @ Apr 23 2008, 06:07 PM)
Hi there.

I need some help on supporting documents for income tax incentives.

e.g. On education fees.

What happens if I could not get hold of the official receipt? Are there any possible ways out?

Thanks. Would really appreciate some help here. smile.gif
No way out without official receipt.

But you can get an answer from the Income Tax department to confirm this, and tell you what you need to do.

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QUOTE(NaiveLady @ Apr 9 2008, 08:49 PM)
I just received my EA form but I have 1 query. I received bonus for Year 2007 in Jan 2008 and March 2008. In my EA form, only include the bonus received in Jan 2008. I asked the admin personnel and she informed that it is because the bonus that I received in March 08 will be added to 2008 EA form. I simplify it as below.

EA for Year 2007: Bonus for 2007 received in Jan 08.
EA for Year 2008: Bonus for 2007 received in Mar 08.

Do I submit my income tax for year 2007 assessment based on the EA form. (Meaning bonus for 2007 received in Mar 08 not included in 2007 assessment)
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But you can get an answer from the Income Tax department to confirm this, and tell you what you need to do.

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QUOTE(abarai @ Apr 10 2008, 10:25 AM)
can claim newspaper subscriptions under books&magazines?
Nope, not eligible for deductions.

But you can get an answer from the Income Tax department to confirm this, and tell you what else you can deduct (or not deduct).

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QUOTE(amyho3 @ Apr 10 2008, 02:06 PM)
Hi, all.

May I know how long it takes for income tax refund? Coz it owes me quite a huge amount. Also, how do they refund the money ar?
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They are promising quick refunds within 1-3 months of filing. If you provide a bank account with your filing, they will send the refunds to that account.

But you can get an answer from the Income Tax department to confirm this, and tell you what you about their refund issuance targets & processes.

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Povide your full name, tax reference no. and contact no. when contacting through phone.

Service hours: Monday to Friday 8.00 a.m - 5.30 p.m

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E-Filing Helpline 03-42893535

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post Apr 24 2008, 07:32 AM

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From the IRD website -> http://www.hasil.org.my/english/eng_NO2_1_1F.asp
Another useful table -> http://www.hasil.org.my/english/eng_NO2_1_1E.asp

If you need answers from the Income Tax department to confirm how you are filling in your form, do contact them...

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Povide your full name, tax reference no. and contact no. when contacting through phone.

Service hours: Monday to Friday 8.00 a.m - 5.30 p.m

Customer Service Counter phone no:
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QUOTE(Playbook @ Apr 24 2008, 07:27 AM)
They are promising quick refunds within 1-3 months of filing.  If you provide a bank account with your filing, they will send the refunds to that account.
hi,

Just a couple of point here:
1. AFAIK, you are only promised quick refunds if you are using the e-Filing. The LHDN will try to process the manual filings quickly, but the earlier that you get them the better the chances. It also depends on whether there are any problems in the way that the form has been completed. The FREE version of TAXSAYA will help in this regard, which you can download from www.taxsaya.com
2. AFAIK, the refunds are currently not being paid directly into your bank account, this is something that they plan to apply for next year with the e-Refund. Currently the refunds are still paid out using cheques.

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Hi All, Hope to share with each other my below queries...

Regarding the section: Section 46[/b]
b) (i) Medical expense for parents : RM5000(max)
(ii) Medical expense for taxpayer(you), spouse and children in respect of serious diseases : RM5000(max)*

Does it cover normal medical treatment that taxpayer that he/she and his/her parent undergo in the clinic? what i meant normal medical treatment is just like flu, eye checking, dentail treatment and so on.



And also for the Expense on a complete medical examination : RM500(max)*

How we define the complete medical examination? Does it cover blood checking?
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QUOTE(frans @ Apr 24 2008, 01:21 PM)
Hi All, Hope to share with each other my below queries...

Regarding the section: Section 46[/b]
b)  (i) Medical expense for parents : RM5000(max)
    (ii) Medical expense for taxpayer(you), spouse and children in respect of serious diseases : RM5000(max)*

Does it cover normal medical treatment that taxpayer that he/she and his/her parent undergo in the clinic? what i meant normal medical treatment is just like flu, eye checking, dentail treatment and so on. 
And also for the Expense on a complete medical examination : RM500(max)*

How we define the complete medical examination? Does it cover blood checking?
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1. For parents medical, even normal ailments are covered.
2. Full Medical Examination must also include a Physical Examination (read this )
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Hi, alternatively you could just download taxsaya and see all the deduction that is applicable for you. The software would help you find out all the relief and claims that is applicable to you.
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guys,

I got this from YourMoney section NST newspaper dated 23 April 2008.

"Buying sports and exercise equipment can also be claimed as tax relief of up to RM300"

I tried finding it everywhere but cant seem to find this clause, anyone can enlighten me?

Thanks
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QUOTE(cute_boboi @ Mar 5 2008, 03:46 PM)
For your own sole-proprietor company, have to use B form and not BE form.
http://www.hasil.org.my/cP/upload/Form/Nyata/BorangB2007.pdf

BORANG BE 2007
PEMASTAUTIN YANG TIDAK MENJALANKAN PERNIAGAAN

BORANG B 2007
PEMASTAUTIN YANG MENJALANKAN PERNIAGAAN

I am not a tax agent  tongue.gif  and I'm not in finance/accounting. Just doing a favour to everyone. You can get a copy of all the forms here.
http://www.hasil.org.my/melayu/bm_NO5_1.asp
hey there... i know this is really late.. but i've been really busy....

here's the situation i'm in... i was employed until january of this year (2008).
at the same time, i also set up a sole proprietorship in january 2008 and i've been full time with my enterprise since feb of this year.

I believe that i should be filling in the BE 2007 form right?

i just need confirmation... heheh.. thanks....
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QUOTE(miuk @ Apr 27 2008, 04:19 PM)
guys,

I got this from YourMoney section NST newspaper dated 23 April 2008.

"Buying sports and exercise equipment can also be claimed as tax relief of up to RM300"

I tried finding it everywhere but cant seem to find this clause, anyone can enlighten me?

Thanks
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yes, is a new relief. goverment want malaysian to exercise more
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sorry for last minute question.
Insurance premium. last year pay Automatic premium loan ( quite big amt) plus principal.
Tax receipt from Great Eastern showed the total amount paid during the year.
Can I claim off all or just the principal alone.


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QUOTE(lostasylum @ Apr 27 2008, 07:31 PM)
hey there... i know this is really late.. but i've been really busy....

here's the situation i'm in... i was employed until january of this year (2008).
at the same time, i also set up a sole proprietorship in january 2008 and i've been full time with my enterprise since feb of this year.

I believe that i should be filling in the BE 2007 form right?

i just need confirmation... heheh.. thanks....
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Hi,

Yes....if you were only receiving employment income between 1st Jan 2007 -> 31st Dec 2007, then you will file a Borang BE.

You will file a Borang B for your 2008 filing.

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QUOTE(pangolin88 @ Apr 27 2008, 08:24 PM)
sorry for last minute question.
Insurance premium. last year pay Automatic premium loan ( quite big amt)  plus principal.
Tax receipt from Great Eastern showed the total amount paid during the year.
Can I claim off all or just the principal alone.
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Hi,

Depends what the premium was for wink.gif If you download your FREE copy of TAXSAYA, then we have listed out for you what types of insurance you can claim on

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[quote=Trevor Keegan,Apr 28 2008, 10:17 AM]
Hi,

Depends what the premium was for wink.gif If you download your FREE copy of TAXSAYA, then we have listed out for you what types of insurance you can claim on

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already d/l taxsaya but no answer.

Whole life insurance.. annual principal is RM626. APL plus interest paid in 2007 is RM1380.
Total paid in 2007 is RM RM2006.

So can I claim for RM626 only or RM2006.
TQ

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[quote=pangolin88,Apr 28 2008, 11:57 AM]
[quote=Trevor Keegan,Apr 28 2008, 10:17 AM]
Hi,

Depends what the premium was for wink.gif If you download your FREE copy of TAXSAYA, then we have listed out for you what types of insurance you can claim on

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already d/l taxsaya but no answer.

Whole life insurance.. annual principal is RM626. APL plus interest paid in 2007 is RM1380.
Total paid in 2007 is RM RM2006.

So can I claim for RM626 only or RM2006.
TQ
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Hi,

Sorry about that,....we are servicing calls from both Tax Payers and Tax Agents, this is also the reason that we have set up the forum....so that we can get to address all the questions wink.gif

Based on the information that you have given here (assuming that the Whole of life is either for yourself or your spouse then) you will be able to claim the RM626.

I am sorry...I do not know what APL is

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[quote=Trevor Keegan,Apr 28 2008, 03:48 PM]
Hi,

Sorry about that,....we are servicing calls from both Tax Payers and Tax Agents, this is also the reason that we have set up the forum....so that we can get to address all the questions wink.gif

Based on the information that you have given here (assuming that the Whole of life is either for yourself or your spouse then) you will be able to claim the RM626.

I am sorry...I do not know what APL is

Thanks for the quick response
APL is Automatic premium loan.. I did not pay the principal last year so this year paid for two years plus accrued interest.

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[quote=pangolin88,Apr 28 2008, 04:39 PM]
[quote=Trevor Keegan,Apr 28 2008, 03:48 PM]
Hi,

Sorry about that,....we are servicing calls from both Tax Payers and Tax Agents, this is also the reason that we have set up the forum....so that we can get to address all the questions wink.gif

Based on the information that you have given here (assuming that the Whole of life is either for yourself or your spouse then) you will be able to claim the RM626.

I am sorry...I do not know what APL is

Thanks for the quick response
APL is Automatic premium loan.. I did not pay the principal last year so this year paid for two years plus accrued interest.
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I have to make it up to you some how wink.gif

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if you work for a company say... erm.. Ford..
and you run your own business, say.. erm a workshop
and you use your salary from Ford to get the workshop
up and running
can that reduce tax?
and if this is the case, do you file B or BE or Both?


Added on April 30, 2008, 8:13 pmon top of that
if i do free lancing job
say i get 1k evertime i do it
and i can do like 3 times per month
so that's like 36k extra..
no contract and documents
how do i file it?
do i even file it?
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Hi, I have a simple question here : is foreign income required to be put into the Borang E, or whatever borang for reporting to the Government ?

I know foreign-sourced is NOT taxable, but do we need to report ? Thank you.
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Hope you guys can answer my question below.

Let say my partner and i operate a business and it's not sdn bhd , can i have Company trip for vacation ?
If yes , then why the auditor say no and they said that you only can give company vacation trip for workers only.

If like that , the partner and boss no need to go ?

Hope you guys can help answer my question above.
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QUOTE(Andy0625 @ May 23 2008, 06:53 PM)
Hope you guys can answer my question below.

Let say my partner and i operate a business and it's not sdn bhd , can i have Company trip for vacation ?
If yes , then why the auditor say no and they said that you only can give company vacation trip for workers only.

If like that , the partner and boss no need to go ?

Hope you guys can help answer my question above.
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i asked my accountant and he also told me the same thing. company vacation is not business related.

but if you change it to "business trip", then it's allowable expenses
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QUOTE(lucifah @ May 23 2008, 06:57 PM)
i asked my accountant and he also told me the same thing. company vacation is not business related.

but if you change it to "business trip", then it's allowable expenses
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It's really very weird scenario though , workers can take vacation while the boss need to pay for himself. doh.gif
Even if it's a vacation trip and declare as business trip , who knows aye ? biggrin.gif *but still need to pay for wife and children ones. blush.gif

I haven't go through all the pages yet , from what i heard from my accountant , they say that children books can claim up to rm1000.
I'll browse through all soon , thanks for the prompt reply. smile.gif
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collect all the purchase receipt.. so income tax will reduct somehow.( my mom told me )
and pay zakat is one of the way and no limits to( i thinks so))
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hi lucifah,

i empathize with those whose income tax bracket is fast approaching the highest tier bracket.

a solely salary-worker will have little reprieve as the government will find ways to disqualify/reduce exemptions and rebates over time (while having a balancing act at appeasing other groups of benefactors)

i did thought about extremes, such as working in a tax-free environment (which may either include a company that provide tax-free compensation or at a country that does not have any income tax)

if the main bulk of your rm 70,000 annual income derives from employment, then there's little room to maneuver (whatever reductions are already at max level and it's just too little to bring down the stated income).. oh, forget about those insurance thingy as mentioned by some folks here, i'm sure you're not crazy to buy into that just for the rebates.

the reality is, moving forward to a high employment income earner, comes with it a great responsibility/accountability which restrict alot in terms of seeking additional stream(s) of business to park/protect/preserve one's income. conflict of interest may arise and you may be required to reduce your own participation in those avenues where you can seek a little more protection to your income as a whole.

this is where a full business owner/man/woman have advantage over salary worker..

the question that i asked myself occasionally.. am i ready to go into this "arena" full time? mind you, my income tax is 5-digit and i feel the pain (whenever the government screw around with public funds)
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QUOTE(Andy0625 @ May 23 2008, 07:05 PM)
It's really very weird scenario though , workers can take vacation while the boss need to pay for himself.  doh.gif
Even if it's a vacation trip and declare as business trip , who knows aye ?  biggrin.gif  *but still need to pay for wife and children ones.  blush.gif

I haven't go through all the pages yet , from what i heard from my accountant , they say that children books can claim up to rm1000.
I'll browse through all soon , thanks for the prompt reply.  smile.gif
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just re-checked with my accountant. he says vacations for staff is allowable expenses. vacation for business owner / proprieters are not

HOWEVER, if the vacation is "business related", then it's justifiable as allowable expenses (faham faham la...)

now, business related can also be defined as "motivational rests" (cuti lah) - a good rests and to meet up "potential" clients (your frens / family)

for books, this year it's has been bumped up to rm 1,000. not just limited to children books - any type of publication qualifies


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Sport equipment will be starting next year? YA of 2008?
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yup...i heard can claim for next year onwards
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QUOTE(arsenal @ May 24 2008, 10:08 PM)
yup...i heard can claim for next year onwards
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From LHDN website. Can file for tax relief up to RM 300.
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QUOTE(lwb @ May 24 2008, 04:52 PM)


the question that i asked myself occasionally.. am i ready to go into this "arena" full time? mind you, my income tax is 5-digit and i feel the pain (whenever the government screw around with public funds)
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yes, that's the kind of sentiment i have

worse, i'm in sarawak where the public infrastructure lags 10-years behind that of semenanjung

and i'm only paying a 4-digit tax

i share your pain, mate - and yours with a 5-digit, i can't imagine


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QUOTE(lucifah @ May 25 2008, 01:23 AM)
yes, that's the kind of sentiment i have

worse, i'm in sarawak where the public infrastructure lags 10-years behind that of semenanjung

and i'm only paying a 4-digit tax

i share your pain, mate - and yours with a 5-digit, i can't imagine
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My friends, it's relative. If you are supposed to pay a 5-digit tax but you are only paying a 4-digit tax, then no pain.

If you are paying a 5-digit tax when you are supposed to pay a 6-digit tax, then no pain too.

If you are paying tax accordingly, then be happy that you are not staying in a western country whereby the high tax bracket can be hit easily.

Be happy. How the government uses the money is beyond your control, you can only vote who you want to be using this money.
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Charity must be with receipt right? can it be temple  or any charity with receipt?
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the question is will G recognise those receipt from temple ?
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Hi Hi, I'm a bit perplexed on the tax thingy too.

My first time getting salary high enough to get taxed sleep.gif'

Right now we have this deduction thingy from our monthly salary.
On top of that, do we still need to pay additional taxes?

And how would the rebate be?
The computer purchase is 3.5k

If my annual tax is less than 3.5k, how much would I be able to get back?
All of the amount I paid in tax I guess?
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easy... upgrade ur company status... the reality it the bigger ur business the less taxation... coz u get a lot of tax avoidance...
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Can we claim book/magazine receipts from Store Copy receipt ?
The receipt have MPH written on it but without the usual address and phone numbers. Each description is itemised as [BUKU] or [MAJALAH]
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according to my fren, he always use [ART] to reduce his tax payable amount.... he buy some printing/decorative...

but i chk'd at personal relief at LHDN, there is nothing shown related [ART]... or it ady been classified under [BOOKS]?

pls advise!~~
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List of acceptable and approved Charity by LHDN

http://www.hasil.org.my/melayu/bm_Derma.asp

SSPN also allows deduction.
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Any new updates?

QUOTE(miuk @ Apr 27 2008, 04:19 PM)
guys,

I got this from YourMoney section NST newspaper dated 23 April 2008.

"Buying sports and exercise equipment can also be claimed as tax relief of up to RM300"

I tried finding it everywhere but cant seem to find this clause, anyone can enlighten me?

Thanks
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What if I buy a pair of Nike/Adidas/Reebok sneakers (not for sports use lol), can I claim it under this?
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Is the currently all those personal relief under the Income Tax Act 1967 keeping with current cost of living? Is it fair, reasonable and equitable in this bad economy time?


I think its fair, job less means no pay tax. smile.gif
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QUOTE(mtsen @ Dec 12 2008, 02:52 PM)
I think its fair, job less means no pay tax. smile.gif
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I LOL this statement. Fair enough biggrin.gif sweat.gif
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i dont mean that noneed pay tax. i means bout the amount of that personal relief, is it fair? as some of the family or individual earn at the moderate level, some has high earnings... is that amount of relief sufficient to lesser burden on tax payer?
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If to make the gov tax us less during the bad economy time is almost impossible la looking at how our gov is now. I guess that is why TS and most probably others(including me) are all looking at ways to get tax relief. Im sure we can use our own creative ways to make sure we pay less in tax every year. Such as taking someone else's book receipt, take life insurance, charity, zakat etc. People who are not aware of these tax relief are in a even worse condition since they just pay whatever the gov ask them to pay.

I think this thread is actually a good idea since can make more people aware of tax relief so that they can legally take advantage of it. Maybe if we can compile a list of legal ways to reduce the tax that we are paying and then later pin this thread so that it can be useful to others. Just my opinion..
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For Tax Relief on Computer (RM3000), does Notebook count as PC as well?



thanks
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QUOTE(tootoo @ Dec 21 2008, 06:02 PM)
Dear All,
For Tax Relief on Computer (RM3000), does Notebook count as PC as well?
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yes............
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Hmm

I wonder why so many people refused to pay income tax since we can claim back with receipt or whatsoever unsure.gif


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I still feel that RM8k of personal relief in income tax (for single ppl) is not enough.....RM8k/12 = RM666.67 per month

This RM666.67 has to cover a working adult's food/petrol/utilities bill/accomodation.....shakehead.gif
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QUOTE(andy_lhc @ Dec 21 2008, 06:51 PM)
I still feel that RM8k of personal relief in income tax (for single ppl) is not enough.....RM8k/12 = RM666.67 per month

This RM666.67 has to cover a working adult's food/petrol/utilities bill/accomodation.....shakehead.gif
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enough i think...maybe you spend too much...
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for the computer, 3000rm, does the tax reduction in malaysia works like this : When doing the tax, provide the receipt of the PC, and for whatever amount upto 3k, they will take 3k off the tax amount?? or is there some kind of calculation needed (depreciation rate) need to be done. And can it be claimed all at once, or gradually for 3 years.

Not familiar how tax return works in this country.
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Does that mean we only can claim up to RM8k max per year ?
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QUOTE(T_flash @ Dec 21 2008, 09:04 PM)
for the computer, 3000rm, does the tax reduction in malaysia works like this : When doing the tax, provide the receipt of the PC, and for whatever amount upto 3k, they will take 3k off the tax amount?? or is there some kind of calculation needed (depreciation rate) need to be done. And can it be claimed all at once, or gradually for 3 years.

Not familiar how tax return works in this country.
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No, 3K is one off. If you bought 2.5K, then 2.5K tax relief only. If bought 5K, max is 3K.

They work as tax relief means that the particular year, your taxable amount can be deducted for that amount before starting to compute for the tax part.

Then next year and another year, you will not entitle for the computer tax relief again even you bought another computer or previous not fully utilised the 3K.
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Does that mean we only can claim up to RM8k max per year ?
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its not claiming up to 8k. Its a standard 8k for personal relief every year for each individual. U have other relief also ma... epf/insurance, books/magazines etc
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guys,

I got this from YourMoney section NST newspaper dated 23 April 2008.

"Buying sports and exercise equipment can also be claimed as tax relief of up to RM300"

I tried finding it everywhere but cant seem to find this clause, anyone can enlighten me?

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Any new updates?
What if I buy a pair of Nike/Adidas/Reebok sneakers (not for sports use lol), can I claim it under this?
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Any details for this? Can I claim tax relief for the sport shoes?
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Any details for this? Can I claim tax relief for the sport shoes?
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hehe i'd like to know bout this one too..but since it mentions "equipment" i'd guess the answer is no..

does anybody know about the computer thingy, do u need to buy 1 SET computer for the relief or buying parts considered eligible for the relief??? having asked that i think i know the answer already...damn.
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Any details for this? Can I claim tax relief for the sport shoes?
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i didn't even know such relief exists...tryin searching irb site but no luck findin suc relief....but i dun tink sport shoes s consider s an equipment...
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hehe i'd like to know bout this one too..but since it mentions "equipment" i'd guess the answer is no..

does anybody know about the computer thingy, do u need to buy 1 SET computer for the relief or buying parts considered eligible for the relief??? having asked that i think i know the answer already...damn.
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Applicable to 1 set only, parts are not eligible.
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Sports equipment relief can be claimed for year of assessment 2008. But the IRB has yet to come out with a public ruling on what kinda equipment is illegible for claims, but i'm assuming it excludes sport shoes.

For computer relief, you can only claim once every 3 years. Notebook included.

Electronic publication can be claimed, as long as it is not newspaper, or illegal publication (im assuming stuff like playboy). Can refer here (part D8)
http://www.hasil.gov.my/cP/upload/Form/Nyata/NotaB2007.pdf

As for insurance claim, it's better claim based on annual statement given by your insurance company, rather than receipt, cos sometime you're paying a premium of RM500 a month (say), but a portion of it could go to medical, or educational, not only life...

Tax rebates increased from RM350 to RM400 for YA2008, and also 1% cut on their rates for the medium income bracket. I bet our government's revenue would drop considerably due to this.
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Anyone know what is the procedure for claim rebate for this personal relief ?


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in that case, that mean we submit all the relevant receipt together during declare BE form ?

and at the same time, they will pay back us for the claim ?

how about online then ?
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Actually you don have to submit the receipt. Just declare all the reliefs claims in your form. You will eventually get your tax refund if you submit it via e-filing.

However, sometime they might want to check the receipt for all the claims you made. But this usually happens if you full claim medical or books relief. If you give them all the relevant receipt, and pass all their audit checks, then you can get your refund in no time.
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Want to ask, if i work at home and a US company pay me in USD, do i still need to pay tax?

Asked my friend who is an auditor and he said can be categorized as foreign derived income and no need pay tax.

Anyone in the same situation can enlighten me a bit on this?


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No need to pay any single sen...
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Want to ask, if i work at home and a US company pay me in USD, do i still need to pay tax?

Asked my friend who is an auditor and he said can be categorized as foreign derived income and no need pay tax.

Anyone in the same situation can enlighten me a bit on this?
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Want to ask, if i work at home and a US company pay me in USD, do i still need to pay tax?

Asked my friend who is an auditor and he said can be categorized as foreign derived income and no need pay tax.

Anyone in the same situation can enlighten me a bit on this?
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There's been a debate on similar issue between me, my colleagues and my lecturer. The situation: I blog, and I earn money from Google Ads and other advertiser. Are those income taxable? This is pretty similar to your work at home and a US company pays you in USD.

After some time arguing, we come up with a conclusion. When you work at home, it is an income derived here in malaysia, BUT paid by a foreigner. So, that doesn't means that your income is derived from outside malaysia. If your income is derived here in malaysia, that income should be taxable. But we have yet to ask any officer from the IRB to confirm this, cos so far my income online + my current salary would not hit the range where I can be taxed.
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Thank you Gemini !

Wow if everyone also submit claims but did not provide receipt, sure got some people purposely put 'higher amount' to get more

Since we can claim up to RM8k p.a , why people so reluctant to pay tax ? I think this only affect those who pay tax > RM8k right ?
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Thank you Gemini !

Wow if everyone also submit claims but did not provide receipt, sure got some people purposely put 'higher amount' to get more

Since we can claim up to RM8k p.a , why people so reluctant to pay tax ? I think this only affect those who pay tax > RM8k right ?
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Yes. I do know of people who full claim reliefs such as books and medical expenses for parents, when the actual receipt isn't that amount. They dare to do that cos when you do submission, you don't have to submit those receipt. It's self assessment after all. Anyway, they are at risk. The IRB will once in a blue moon, send you a love letter, asking you to present them those receipts for their reference. If you fail to show those receipt, you have to pay penalty and more tax in respect of the fake relief claims.

The RM8,000 personal relief is automatic for EVERY tax payer.

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Receipts must be kept in order for a duration of 7 years maximum. you shall need to show the receipts when you are audited by LHDN. Take note that should you claim now and later when audited you are unable to show the receipts, you can be 'charged' as falsifying your statement and can be charged in court. sweat.gif not to mention that you'll need to repay the balance tax which you tried to runaway from...
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QUOTE(J'Daniel @ Dec 28 2008, 11:53 AM)
Thank you Gemini !

Wow if everyone also submit claims but did not provide receipt, sure got some people purposely put 'higher amount' to get more

Since we can claim up to RM8k p.a , why people so reluctant to pay tax ? I think this only affect those who pay tax > RM8k right ?
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Guys; if I buy book from Amazon.com and ship to Malaysia; can I claim for books also?

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Yes. Make sure you keep the receipts.
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books, magazines etc are all ok
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Yes. I do know of people who full claim reliefs such as books and medical expenses for parents, when the actual receipt isn't that amount. They dare to do that cos when you do submission, you don't have to submit those receipt. It's self assessment after all. Anyway, they are at risk. The IRB will once in a blue moon, send you a love letter, asking you to present them those receipts for their reference. If you fail to show those receipt, you have to pay penalty and more tax in respect of the fake relief claims.

The RM8,000 personal relief is automatic for EVERY tax payer.
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Thanks again bro notworthy.gif

Appreciate your explanation, it help me a lot ! I understand much better now

I am tax payer but sometimes I might not taxable for 1~2 months ( if I don't do overtime). If let say my total tax per year is ONLY RM1000, I still can claim up to RM8000 provided got receipt under personal relief ?

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QUOTE(J'Daniel @ Dec 29 2008, 09:47 AM)
Thanks again bro  notworthy.gif

Appreciate your explanation, it help me a lot ! I understand much better now

I am tax payer but sometimes I might not taxable for 1~2 months ( if I don't do overtime). If let say my total tax per year is ONLY RM1000, I still can claim up to RM8000 provided got receipt under personal relief ?

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I think you don't get the message in the earlier post.

RM8000 personal relief is automatic.

Just like you earn 30K last year then straight away you deduct out the RM8,000, mean your taxable income is 22K, so any tax is calculated based on (xxK annual income - Rm8,000)

22K x y% = tax you need to pay.
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u got it wrong dude.. 8000 relief is minus off from your taxable income eg 3k per month = 36,0000 income p.a

Relief: 36,000- 8000 = 28000 taxable income

For those taxable income below 35,000 ( i think) there is a rebate of 350.

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Lol sorry I think Im confused a bit rclxub.gif

If I earn 30k, and it auto deduct relief Rm8k meaning taxable income is 22k

I not sure why need to pay the tax when declare. I thought all the tax already deducted from my salary monthly

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Thanks again bro  notworthy.gif

Appreciate your explanation, it help me a lot ! I understand much better now

I am tax payer but sometimes I might not taxable for 1~2 months ( if I don't do overtime). If let say my total tax per year is ONLY RM1000, I still can claim up to RM8000 provided got receipt under personal relief ?

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Well, we have to differentiate between reliefs and rebates. Reliefs in a way reduces your taxable income, and as for rebates, it reduces your tax payable. That's the different.

As for monthly tax deduction, usually stated as PCB (Potongan Cukai Bulanan) or STD (Schedular Tax Deduction), it depends on your current marriage status and also how many kids you have, then your employer deduct it accordingly. They have the deduction table and they just follow there. As far as I know from the deduction table, deduction starts if your monthly salary is RM2,500 and above. You can refer the table here. However, i think there will be 2008 ammendment due to rate changes starting YA2008. You can refer the table here. PCB deduction table doesn't take into account of any other reliefs, other than your EPF contribution, self relief, wife relief and children reliefs.

The big question, how do we claim the other reliefs that we can claim, like insurance, books, medical expenses, etc? At the end of a year, your employer will give you a form called Borang EA. This form is a summary of your gross taxable income, your EPF contribution and your PCB paid. When the IRB opened their e-filing website, login to your own form and fill it. When it comes to the reliefs part, just key in the amount that you want to claim (books, insurance, etc), and the e-filing system will automatically compute your tax. Then you will know whether your monthly deduction is enough to cover your tax payable for that year or not. If not enough, you can use maybank2u to pay, and if overpaid, just wait for refund from the IRB.
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QUOTE(J'Daniel @ Dec 29 2008, 10:35 AM)
Lol sorry I think Im confused a bit rclxub.gif

If I earn 30k, and it auto deduct relief Rm8k meaning taxable income is 22k

I not sure why need to pay the tax when declare. I thought all the tax already deducted from my salary monthly

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Yes, auto deduct 8k personal relief. There are other relief available as well. Insurance/EPF, Books/magazines, Laptop/Personal Computer, Medical fees for parents etc etc. U can try google for pricewaterhousecoopers. They have the latest edition 2008/2009 tax info.
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Yes, auto deduct 8k personal relief. There are other relief available as well. Insurance/EPF, Books/magazines, Laptop/Personal Computer, Medical fees for parents etc etc. U can try google for pricewaterhousecoopers. They have the latest edition 2008/2009 tax info.
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hi can i use my credit card to pay my tax to IRB..? flex.gif
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hi can i use my credit card to pay my tax to IRB..? flex.gif
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Well, we have to differentiate between reliefs and rebates. Reliefs in a way reduces your taxable income, and as for rebates, it reduces your tax payable. That's the different.

As for monthly tax deduction, usually stated as PCB (Potongan Cukai Bulanan) or STD (Schedular Tax Deduction), it depends on your current marriage status and also how many kids you have, then your employer deduct it accordingly. They have the deduction table and they just follow there. As far as I know from the deduction table, deduction starts if your monthly salary is RM2,500 and above. You can refer the table here. However, i think there will be 2008 ammendment due to rate changes starting YA2008. You can refer the table here. PCB deduction table doesn't take into account of any other reliefs, other than your EPF contribution, self relief, wife relief and children reliefs.

The big question, how do we claim the other reliefs that we can claim, like insurance, books, medical expenses, etc? At the end of a year, your employer will give you a form called Borang EA. This form is a summary of your gross taxable income, your EPF contribution and your PCB paid. When the IRB opened their e-filing website, login to your own form and fill it. When it comes to the reliefs part, just key in the amount that you want to claim (books, insurance, etc), and the e-filing system will automatically compute your tax. Then you will know whether your monthly deduction is enough to cover your tax payable for that year or not. If not enough, you can use maybank2u to pay, and if overpaid, just wait for refund from the IRB.
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well explained.. rclxms.gif

if anyone needs to calculate their income tax..feel free to download a simple spreadsheet calculator i made..then u can see how much you are taxable n how much u can expect to get back ur PBC... tongue.gif cheers..
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can anyone enlighten me?

My friend mother, working as secretary in a law firm. What they do, they didn't fill out for rebate, or even request for refund of excessment.

what they did is, when the time is come, those accumulated money in IRB + interest ( not sure how much ) they will use it for buying a property.

Anyone know about this?

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QUOTE(kuntaker @ Mar 18 2008, 03:16 PM)

2. Gardener / servant / driver :
  if it is under company name , then is BIK
  Gardener : RM300/mth  (RM3.6k)
  Servant  : RM400/mth  (RM4.8k)
  Driver    : RM600/mth  (RM7.2k)



NEED MORE INFORMATION PLS PM me, I will try to update here.
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I'm working in a normal company and hiring a maid. Can I still declare this and get rebate for the maid/servant?
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can anyone enlighten me?

My friend mother, working as secretary in a law firm. What they do, they didn't fill out for rebate, or even request for refund of excessment.

what they did is, when the time is come, those accumulated money in IRB + interest ( not sure how much ) they will use it for buying a property.

Anyone know about this?
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IRB pay interest? Don't think so... hmm.gif
Accumulation, yes.

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I'm working in a normal company and hiring a maid. Can I still declare this and get rebate for the maid/servant?
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Actually that is not rebate or anything that can be claimed. That is Benefit in Kind (BIK), where your employer provides you with servant/gardener/driver. This BIK which should be declared and is taxable.

Declaring this BIK won't reduce your tax. It will increase your tax. sad.gif
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QUOTE(GeminiGeek @ Dec 30 2008, 05:56 PM)
Actually that is not rebate or anything that can be claimed. That is Benefit in Kind (BIK), where your employer provides you with servant/gardener/driver. This BIK which should be declared and is taxable.

Declaring this BIK won't reduce your tax. It will increase your tax.  sad.gif
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hi all,

wana ask a few questions which kinda pop up in my head.

1. wat is the minimum amt per annum tat would require me to declare tax?
2. how will the govt. know tat i didnt pay tax?
3. wat if i haf tat minimum amt in my savings, need i to declare tax?
4. is thr any organizations in which we can hire to calculate tax for us?

thank you very much.
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QUOTE(Qasy @ Dec 30 2008, 10:49 PM)
hi all,

wana ask a few questions which kinda pop up in my head.

1. wat is the minimum amt per annum tat would require me to declare tax?
2. how will the govt. know tat i didnt pay tax?
3. wat if i haf tat minimum amt in my savings, need i to declare tax?
4. is thr any organizations in which we can hire to calculate tax for us?

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1. 30k?
2. If you acquire property etc. Or someone whistle blowing.
3. Saving no need to declare tax.
4. Tax agent, they help you with fee.
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IRB pay interest? Don't think so... hmm.gif
Accumulation, yes.
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1. 30k?
2. If you acquire property etc. Or someone whistle blowing.
3. Saving no need to declare tax.
4. Tax agent, they help you with fee.
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2.5k/month is 30k.. yeah.. 30K

no need tax agent.. can ask ur company HR to help u also..

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QUOTE(Qasy @ Dec 30 2008, 10:49 PM)
hi all,

wana ask a few questions which kinda pop up in my head.

1. wat is the minimum amt per annum tat would require me to declare tax?
2. how will the govt. know tat i didnt pay tax?
3. wat if i haf tat minimum amt in my savings, need i to declare tax?
4. is thr any organizations in which we can hire to calculate tax for us?

thank you very much.
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1) Even your annual income is not taxable...you still need to file your tax.

The penalty for not filing your income tax is much much higher than does who filed lower income tax than supposed to.

2) Guess wat, your employer oso file their company tax as well...and you as their employee....

Your salary goes into banks...records r left everywhere... IRB have all the means to check if they wan to

3) You declare your annual income for that year alone...as long as it is income... even u save it or not...

4) You can always go to accounting firm to find out...any qualified accountant will know wat to do. But i suppose if you are only doing personal tax...no need to go to that extend...do it your own oso can

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Actually you only file your tax once you have registered as a taxpayer. If it happens that year you are not taxable but you are registered as a taxpayer, YOU MUST FILE YOUR TAX RETURN.

If your income is not taxable, and you don't have a tax file number, it's not necessary for you to go register a tax file number and file your tax return. Waste your time, AND waste IRB's time.

How do you know if you have a tax file number? If you're an employee, check with your HR. If you're doing your own business, be sure to register yourself as a taxpayer.
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if ur salary is RM2.5K/month = RM30K/year, KWSP 11% every month, amount taxable is RM86.00

actually when ur salary RM2.3K/month = RM27.6K/year, KWSP 11%, amount taxable is RM21.92 tongue.gif

so salary starting RM2300 is taxable already.. below that will be covered by rebate.
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QUOTE(attahun @ Dec 31 2008, 04:06 PM)
if ur salary is RM2.5K/month = RM30K/year, KWSP 11% every month, amount taxable is RM86.00 

actually when ur salary RM2.3K/month = RM27.6K/year, KWSP 11%, amount taxable is RM21.92  tongue.gif

so salary starting RM2300 is taxable already.. below that will be covered by rebate.
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To be exact, RM24,906/ year will not be taxable.
RM2,075/ month.
Assumed EPF at 11%, personal relief of RM8,000, Rebate RM350 and no other relief for single with no child.
But if you go IRB and tell them you want to declare for income tax with not much salary for them to tax, they might just ask you 'baliklah, if need declare we will inform you'. blush.gif
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can just register first ma....
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QUOTE(htt @ Dec 31 2008, 04:22 PM)
To be exact, RM24,906/ year will not be taxable.
RM2,075/ month.
Assumed EPF at 11%, personal relief of RM8,000, Rebate RM350 and no other relief for single with no child.
But if you go IRB and tell them you want to declare for income tax with not much salary for them to tax, they might just ask you 'baliklah, if need declare we will inform you'.  blush.gif
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sorry don't quite get u..do u mean RM24,907/year is taxable then? i calculate base on my calculator so might be my mistake so just want to clarify..

anyway should register and declare even though no tax for the year...reason is to save u from trouble when they audit you and suddenly realized you never declare your salary, then 'kena' because of not declaring your salary...so income tax must still be filed.

Another reason is that when you start to get PCB (potongan cukai berjadual) and sometimes you are over-deducted, you can only claim back the extra deductions if your past tax declaration is settled, so u don't want to end up having problem in this.
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1. Taxpayers who receive petrol, parking and travelling allowances can now claim tax relief of up to RM6,000 a year.

2. Parents can also claim up to RM2,400 a year for childcare fees, while exemptions are also provided for telephone and handphone, pager, Personal Data Assistant (PDA) and Internet subscriptions.

3. Those claiming for medical benefits could also enjoy tax relief for maternity expenses and buying and seeking traditional medicines and services respectively. They include ayurvedic and acupuncture treatments.

URL: http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=...7846&sec=nation
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i think they need to state clearly what can/cant be deducted as a tax relief especially for no.2
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im also quite blur with the exemption no.2.

is it meaning my streamyx bill can get exemption? but what kind of exemption since it's part of my expenses.
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sorry don't quite get u..do u mean RM24,907/year is taxable then? i calculate base on my calculator so might be my mistake so just want to clarify..

anyway should register and declare even though no tax for the year...reason is to save u from trouble when they audit you and suddenly realized you never declare your salary, then 'kena' because of not declaring your salary...so income tax must still be filed.

Another reason is that when you start to get PCB (potongan cukai berjadual) and sometimes you are over-deducted, you can only claim back the extra deductions if your past tax declaration is settled, so u don't want to end up having problem in this.
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I mean first RM24,907 is not taxable. Amount after that is taxable.
But that's based on an individual with taxable income of less than RM35,000. No kid, not married and have no other relief. Each individual might have different figure, that's just some rough indication only.

Last time we use to have trouble to open that account with IRB, maybe they had improved over the years. Or maybe those officers think we will never pay anything towards building of our nation. blush.gif


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im also quite blur with the exemption no.2.

is it meaning my streamyx bill can get exemption? but what kind of exemption since it's part of my expenses.
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yes its good that streamyx bill can claim for exemption..

by having exemption, of course it is your expenses, but that expenses will not be taxed, which means if total income RM2.5K/month = RM30K/year, only exemption if 11% KWSP and RM8K yearly expenses, your total tax would be RM86.00

but if streamyx bill is allowed for exemption, using same example as above and streamyx bill RM100/month = RM1.2K/year, your total tax would only be RM50.00; that's quite a difference right, especially when it helps to lower your tax bracket.


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QUOTE(htt @ Jan 1 2009, 01:09 PM)
I mean first RM24,907 is not taxable. Amount after that is taxable.
But that's based on an individual with taxable income of less than RM35,000. No kid, not married and have no other relief. Each individual might have different figure, that's just some rough indication only.

Last time we use to have trouble to open that account with IRB, maybe they had improved over the years. Or maybe those officers think we will never pay anything towards building of our nation. blush.gif
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hehe sorry again, i still dont get u... tongue.gif total income per year of more than RM2500 (after deductions) is taxable, in this case only 1% = RM25. but with rebate RM350, it may seem that it is not taxable. but this rebate might be increased,reduced or taken away by the government so it doesn't mean that the income is not taxable. u have to declare your income if you have monthly salary.

and again based on my previous example, after minus rebate and deductions, a person having salary of at least RM2300/month = RM27,600 would have to pay tax..lower than that is covered by the personal rebate.

if yearly salary is RM24,907 don't have to pay any tax as it is covered by the rebate. please correct me if i'm wrong.

p/s: ok i done a bit more of calculations, if your salary is RM2233.33/month = RM26,800 / year, kwsp 11% and RM8K relief, your income tax would be RM0.59 tongue.gif

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hmm.gif does anyone know what would be the maximum amount we can claim for internet subscription ?

n looking at the attachment, does it mean we can only claim if our phone bills exceed RM300?


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QUOTE(attahun @ Jan 1 2009, 02:06 PM)
yes its good that streamyx bill can claim for exemption..

by having exemption, of course it is your expenses, but that expenses will not be taxed, which means if total income RM2.5K/month = RM30K/year, only exemption if 11% KWSP and RM8K yearly expenses, your total tax would be RM86.00

but if streamyx bill is allowed for exemption, using same example as above and streamyx bill RM100/month = RM1.2K/year, your total tax would only be RM50.00; that's quite a difference right, especially when it helps to lower your tax bracket.


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hehe sorry again, i still dont get u... tongue.gif total income per year of more than RM2500 (after deductions) is taxable, in this case only 1% = RM25. but with rebate RM350, it may seem that it is not taxable. but this rebate might be increased,reduced or taken away by the government so it doesn't mean that the income is not taxable. u have to declare your income if you have monthly salary.

and again based on my previous example, after minus rebate and deductions, a person having salary of at least RM2300/month =  RM27,600 would have to pay tax..lower than that is covered by the personal rebate.

if yearly salary is RM24,907 don't have to pay any tax as it is covered by the rebate. please correct me if i'm wrong.

p/s: ok i done a bit more of calculations, if your salary is RM2233.33/month = RM26,800 / year, kwsp 11% and RM8K relief, your income tax would be RM0.59 tongue.gif
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Maybe I too lazy blush.gif
The assumption is, a single individual, not married and have no kid.
Total annual income is RM24,907.
EPF contribution at 11% (-11%*24,907).
personal relief RM8,000.
Balance *3% (I don't know 3% correct or not, got it from somewhere) <RM350.
Tax payable =0.
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hmm.gif does anyone know what would be the maximum amount we can claim for internet subscription ?

n looking at the attachment, does it mean we can only claim if our phone bills exceed RM300?
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It is still not detailed enough. LHDN should come over with a directive on this matter ASAP.
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QUOTE(attahun @ Jan 1 2009, 02:06 PM)
yes its good that streamyx bill can claim for exemption..

by having exemption, of course it is your expenses, but that expenses will not be taxed, which means if total income RM2.5K/month = RM30K/year, only exemption if 11% KWSP and RM8K yearly expenses, your total tax would be RM86.00

but if streamyx bill is allowed for exemption, using same example as above and streamyx bill RM100/month = RM1.2K/year, your total tax would only be RM50.00; that's quite a difference right, especially when it helps to lower your tax bracket.


Added on January 1, 2009, 2:17 pm
hehe sorry again, i still dont get u... tongue.gif total income per year of more than RM2500 (after deductions) is taxable, in this case only 1% = RM25. but with rebate RM350, it may seem that it is not taxable. but this rebate might be increased,reduced or taken away by the government so it doesn't mean that the income is not taxable. u have to declare your income if you have monthly salary.

and again based on my previous example, after minus rebate and deductions, a person having salary of at least RM2300/month =  RM27,600 would have to pay tax..lower than that is covered by the personal rebate.

if yearly salary is RM24,907 don't have to pay any tax as it is covered by the rebate. please correct me if i'm wrong.

p/s: ok i done a bit more of calculations, if your salary is RM2233.33/month = RM26,800 / year, kwsp 11% and RM8K relief, your income tax would be RM0.59 tongue.gif
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so, the streamyx exemption in your example will become realised? or have to wait for ruling to come out in more details?
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so, the streamyx exemption in your example will become realised? or have to wait for ruling to come out in more details?
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Tax relief for sports and fitness equipment still valid for year 2009 assessment?

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All these apply to foreigner too?? so called expat
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Tax relief for sports and fitness equipment still valid for year 2009 assessment?
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QUOTE(attahun @ Jan 1 2009, 02:06 PM)
yes its good that streamyx bill can claim for exemption..

by having exemption, of course it is your expenses, but that expenses will not be taxed, which means if total income RM2.5K/month = RM30K/year, only exemption if 11% KWSP and RM8K yearly expenses, your total tax would be RM86.00

but if streamyx bill is allowed for exemption, using same example as above and streamyx bill RM100/month = RM1.2K/year, your total tax would only be RM50.00; that's quite a difference right, especially when it helps to lower your tax bracket.
You are wrong man.
You can only claim streamyx IF ONLY your employer provides such benefit for you.


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hmm.gif does anyone know what would be the maximum amount we can claim for internet subscription ?

n looking at the attachment, does it mean we can only claim if our phone bills exceed RM300?
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bro, those are the benefits provided by your employer.
You cannot claim it if it is not provided by your employer.


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To encourage employers to provide more benefits to their employees and
to assist in reducing cost of living, it is proposed that employees be given tax
exemption on allowances, benefits in kind and perquisites received from
employers as follows:
i. petrol card or petrol allowance or travel allowance between the
home and work place up to RM2,400 a year;
ii. petrol card or petrol allowance or travel allowance and toll card for
official duties up to RM6,000 a year;
iii. allowance or fees for parking;
iv. meal allowance;
v. allowance or subsidies for childcare of up to RM2,400 a year;
vi. telephone and mobile phone, telephone bills, pager, personal data
assistant (PDA) and internet subscription;
vii. employers’ own goods provided free of charge or at discounted
value where the value of the discount does not exceed RM1,000 a
year;
viii. employers’ own services provided free or at a discount provided
such benefits are not transferable;
ix. subsidies on interest on loans totaling up to RM300,000 for
housing, passenger motor vehicles and education. The exemption
be given to existing and new loans;
x. medical benefits exempted from tax be extended to include
expenses on maternity and traditional medicines such as ayurvedic
and acupuncture; and
xi. existing perquisites be extended to awards related to innovation,
productivity and efficiency such as the Six Sigma Award and the
exemption be increased from RM1,000 to RM2,000 a year.
The above exemptions are not extended to directors of controlled
companies, sole proprietors and partnerships.
Expenses on allowance, benefits in kind and perquisites provided by
employers be given full deduction even though such benefits are not stipulated in
the service contract of the employee.
All the above proposals are effective from year of assessment 2008
except for proposal (i) which is effective from year of assessment 2008 to year of
assessment 2010.


Well explained in Budget 2009
Refer here (APPENDIX 3 page 6-7)

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@roy918 - I think I got it now..Thanks... biggrin.gif

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You are wrong man.
You can only claim streamyx IF ONLY your employer provides such benefit for you.
sorry bro, dont see where i am wrong.. tongue.gif i just said its good IF streamyx can get exemption.. cheers! blush.gif
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anyone know which column to fill in for sports equipment ?

http://www.hasil.org.my/cP/upload/Form/Nya...orangBE2007.pdf

http://www.hasil.org.my/cP/upload/Form/Nyata/NotaBE2007.pdf

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That's for the year 2007 right? I don't see BE form for 2008 posted on LHDN website yet. Anyone know roughly when it'll be available?
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Usually February like that...
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3. Those claiming for medical benefits could also enjoy tax relief for maternity expenses and buying and seeking traditional medicines and services respectively. They include ayurvedic and acupuncture treatments.
How does this work ?
If my wife gives birth, can I claim under maternity expenses ?
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QUOTE(attahun @ Jan 5 2009, 08:53 AM)
sorry bro, dont see where i am wrong.. tongue.gif  i just said its good IF streamyx can get exemption.. cheers!  blush.gif
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Opss...sorry man, didn't see the "IF" tongue.gif tongue.gif

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How does this work ?
If my wife gives birth, can I claim under maternity expenses  ?
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Refer my previous reply - item x (remember to read 1st sentence in the quote).
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Does that apply for monthly gym membership ?


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QUOTE(attahun @ Dec 31 2008, 05:12 PM)
sorry don't quite get u..do u mean RM24,907/year is taxable then? i calculate base on my calculator so might be my mistake so just want to clarify..

anyway should register and declare even though no tax for the year...reason is to save u from trouble when they audit you and suddenly realized you never declare your salary, then 'kena' because of not declaring your salary...so income tax must still be filed.

Another reason is that when you start to get PCB (potongan cukai berjadual) and sometimes you are over-deducted, you can only claim back the extra deductions if your past tax declaration is settled, so u don't want to end up having problem in this.
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Still quite blur on the tax thingy lol. rclxub.gif

Relief = Reduce my taxable income & claim those magazines, books, pc etc etc

Rebate = ??

Example my gross income is 35k, and after minus EPF 11% = my total nett income is RM31,150 (w/o tax)

During the 12 months period, I pay tax every month except maybe few months...

So how to count is, RM31150 - RM8000(relief) = RM23150 (taxable income)

From this 23150, how I calculate what is the total tax amount I should pay ? And how to compare from my payslip whether I overpay or not ?

After calculate that, Then i claim the relief for my magazines etc etc using receipt right ?

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Have tested with your calculator bro. Make life easier

From the summary at bottom, total we have to pay ... don't we already pay by deducted salary each month ?


I wonder does many of you guys put exactly information on your income ... cos if income high, have to pay more tax ...
or you guys just simply put low salary and exclude the allowances


How about the relief like mag etc ?

and do many of you guys overpaid or underpaid your tax to gov ?
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@attahun

Have tested with your calculator bro. Make life easier

From the summary at bottom, total we have to pay ... don't we already pay by deducted salary each month ?
I wonder does many of you guys put exactly information on your income ... cos if income high, have to pay more tax ...
or you guys just simply put low salary and exclude the allowances
How about the relief like mag etc ?

and do many of you guys overpaid or underpaid your tax to gov ?
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QUOTE(J'Daniel @ Jan 7 2009, 11:29 AM)
@attahun

Have tested with your calculator bro. Make life easier

From the summary at bottom, total we have to pay ... don't we already pay by deducted salary each month ?
I wonder does many of you guys put exactly information on your income ... cos if income high, have to pay more tax ...
or you guys just simply put low salary and exclude the allowances
How about the relief like mag etc ?

and do many of you guys overpaid or underpaid your tax to gov ?
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J'Daniel, thanx for trying out the calc, let me know if u find any errors or mistakes..since u've tried it, i guess don't need to answer your earlier questions.

For the monthly deductions, that is not yet the final amount of your tax, is called PCB (potongan cukai berjadual), u should put that under item F2 in my calculator. So from there u can see if you have been overdeducted or underdeducted. If you have "cukai terlebih bayar", then u can claim that back from LHDN.

As for the tax declaration, it must be backed-up by proof, which is the EA statement your company comes up with. For other exemptions/relief, also must have receipts and proof. Under the new system (sistem taksir sendiri STS), you must keep all receipts for a maximum duration of 7 years. If you are audited within the said period, you have to show them your proof of claims. If you are unable to show, they will fine you for 'mis'-declaring your tax.

after reading a bit i found out that if you do not declare your tax (regardless if you are taxable or not), you can be fined a certain amount, 1 guy actually was fined RM50 + interest.. Another story was an old pensioner who wanted to bring out his EPF money was audited by LHDN and was fined quite a certain amount from his EPF money due to no salary declaration..so be wary.. tongue.gif
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i heard those like reimbursement like parking from company can be relieved as well, is it true ?
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i heard those like reimbursement like parking from company can be relieved as well, is it true ?
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Reimbursement of parking fee on business purposes shouldn't be taxed at the first place, that's not source of income, unless you enjoy the parking... hmm.gif
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Just curious, I bought a PC from Dell recently. I just got an invoice from them. Can I use this invoice to say that I have bought the PC? If I am not mistaken invoice is just a document mentioning what you intend to buy from the company while receipt is an acknowledgement of payment?
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QUOTE(Sonic boomer @ Jan 7 2009, 10:38 PM)
Just curious, I bought a PC from Dell recently. I just got an invoice from them. Can I use this invoice to say that I have bought the PC? If I am not mistaken invoice is just a document mentioning what you intend to buy from the company while receipt is an acknowledgement of payment?
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i think u're right..need receipt. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Sonic boomer @ Jan 7 2009, 10:38 PM)
Just curious, I bought a PC from Dell recently. I just got an invoice from them. Can I use this invoice to say that I have bought the PC? If I am not mistaken invoice is just a document mentioning what you intend to buy from the company while receipt is an acknowledgement of payment?
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Invoice represent the fact that transaction had been perform and you owe dell that amount of money (if you haven't paid), a receipt is just to close the loop (to prove consideration had been received), sometime invoice will mention that amount had been prepaid etc. IRB will care less whether you pay dell or not, that's something between you & dell, none of their concern tongue.gif
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Invoice represent the fact that transaction had been perform and you owe dell that amount of money (if you haven't paid), a receipt is just to close the loop (to prove consideration had been received), sometime invoice will mention that amount had been prepaid etc. IRB will care less whether you pay dell or not, that's something between you & dell, none of their concern tongue.gif
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but then, i think they do care whether u pay or not. if you don't pay, then you cannot claim the tax exemption. So i think its still receipt. tongue.gif
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but then, i think they do care whether u pay or not. if you don't pay, then you cannot claim the tax exemption. So i think its still receipt.  tongue.gif
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But a receipt can't prove you are buying computer from them or just buying some other things from them.

Receipt is a document the show you have paid them, it doesn't show the items you purchased, but invoice does.

For computer relief part, the criteria is you are buying a set of computer, buy a processor or GC or monitor alone, according to its rules, it cannot be claimed on tax relief part.
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but then, i think they do care whether u pay or not. if you don't pay, then you cannot claim the tax exemption. So i think its still receipt.  tongue.gif
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If you don't pay, you owe the money to dell, in accounting term, that still perfectly all right. When and where and how you pay your debt don't have anything to do with IRB tongue.gif It's same like the vehicle rebate, government pay you the rebate, regardless you owe money to the bank or not tongue.gif
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Hhmn..maybe I will try to ask and email Dell for a receipt. But just feels a little anxious since they actually call my invoice a 'Tax Invoice' on the internet. However, if I print it out it does not clearly say 'Tax Invoice'.

Would be grateful if anyone can share their experience with their Dell PC rebate and if you were audited. Thanks.
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Would like to know living allowance taxable or not?

Also do non-residents pay less tax than residents? Seems other countries residents get to pay less than non residents.
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Would like to know living allowance taxable or not?

Also do non-residents pay less tax than residents? Seems other countries residents get to pay less than non residents.
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Most case yes, depends.

Depends on source of income generated, this is not one size fit all case. From your question can write a thesis loh tongue.gif
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Hhmn..maybe I will try to ask and email Dell for a receipt. But just feels a little anxious since they actually call my invoice a 'Tax Invoice' on the internet. However, if I print it out it does not clearly say 'Tax Invoice'.

Would be grateful if anyone can share their experience with their Dell PC rebate and if you were audited. Thanks.
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i still think LHDN like to see receipt as proof of purchased ...
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any tax payer can confirm how often they check receipt of proof ?

What if I put less salary in my BE .. like exclude my allowances etc etc ?

as I know, they don't need our JE form for declare income right ?
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QUOTE(J'Daniel @ Jan 9 2009, 05:04 PM)
any tax payer can confirm how often they check receipt of proof ?

What if I put less salary in my BE .. like exclude my allowances etc etc ?

as I know, they don't need our JE form for declare income right ?
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JE form and EA form same ke? haha... anyway what i know is that EA form is your proof of ur income. Allowance may not be included but that will be checked from your pay slip if LHDN want to dig further..

point is, declare based on your EA form..that should do. correct me if i'm wrong.
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If last year your income is not taxible but you din declare.
What should you do?

1) Is there a way to declare now? will you still be fined?

2) Just diam diam, and hope for 7 years to pass.
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QUOTE(attahun @ Jan 9 2009, 05:19 PM)
JE form and EA form same ke? haha... anyway what i know is that EA form is your proof of ur income. Allowance may not be included but that will be checked from your pay slip if LHDN want to dig further..

point is, declare based on your EA form..that should do. correct me if i'm wrong.
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As I know, allowance is included in EA form. LHDN usually request for EA form only during audit, and receipts if you did claim reliefs. Just declare based on the EA form, then you're OK. So, make sure you don't miss out anything that you can see in your EA form. Also don't forget the accrued payment part (bayaran tertunggak) as in the form. http://www.hasil.org.my/cP/upload/Form/Lain/Borang%20EA.pdf

QUOTE(yong_lc @ Jan 10 2009, 06:39 AM)
Question :

If last year your income is not taxible but you din declare.
What should you do?

1) Is there a way to declare now? will you still be fined?

2) Just diam diam, and hope for 7 years to pass.
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If you're not a registered taxpayer, then you should be ok, unless you plan to buy any substantial asset. If you're scared, then go register now and declare your 2008 income before the dateline April/June 2009. Don't bother declaring your 2007 income cos you may get penalty for late submission. Advice from my senior: If you're not planning to buy any assets (house, car) in the near future, and you're not taxable, don't bother declaring it.

However, from what I know, the LHDN is more peculiar on those self-employed people. To be on the safe side, it's recommended to declare your income since day 1 you started your business.
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QUOTE(J'Daniel @ Jan 9 2009, 05:04 PM)
any tax payer can confirm how often they check receipt of proof ?

What if I put less salary in my BE .. like exclude my allowances etc etc ?

as I know, they don't need our JE form for declare income right ?
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My ex-company always ask the staff to do tax clearance after resignation and salary only release if the staff dint have any outstanding tax,
LHDN requested all the EA form and resit as a proof.

According to my Accountant, all income and allowance must stated in EA form.

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My fren gonna be coming over to work as engineer.

He is from Singapore. I told him he better come before June 2009, so that his stay here for the year 2009 will be 180 days, thus when time comes for assessment in April 2010, his 2009 income can claim relief and will be on multi-tiered scale.

SInce our salary are deducted with tax in advance, I told him for 1st 6mths, he will be taxed very badly at 28%.

But once he qualifys as resident, and after the assessment for 2009 is done in April 2010, he should get some tax money back (as his income works out to RM60k per year, and in lower tax bracket).

Did I provide him with the correct info?

U guys know how long it takes to refund? i heard many people said it takes forever! But from your experience?

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QUOTE(peterlee @ Jan 13 2009, 04:55 PM)
My fren gonna be coming over to work as engineer.

He is from Singapore. I told him he better come before June 2009, so that his stay here for the year 2009 will be 180 days, thus when time comes for assessment in April 2010, his 2009 income can claim relief and will be on multi-tiered scale.

SInce our salary are deducted with tax in advance, I told him for 1st 6mths, he will be taxed very badly at 28%.

But once he qualifys as resident, and after the assessment for 2009 is done in April 2010, he should get some tax money back (as his income works out to RM60k per year, and in lower tax bracket).

Did I provide him with the correct info?

U guys know how long it takes to refund? i heard many people said it takes forever! But from your experience?
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I think the employment need to be continue to the next year, put some allowance for him to go back Singapore tongue.gif . But if he stay for part of 2008, full 2009 and 2010 (full or part), guess his 2008 income still at resident rate. If I not mistaken.

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QUOTE(attahun @ Jan 9 2009, 05:19 PM)
JE form and EA form same ke? haha... anyway what i know is that EA form is your proof of ur income. Allowance may not be included but that will be checked from your pay slip if LHDN want to dig further..

point is, declare based on your EA form..that should do. correct me if i'm wrong.
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Hmm what if I don't have EA form ? haven't declare for the past 3 years ... old company

Not sure how to declare though
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Would also like to enquire about my past BE form

For the 2 years ago BE form, can I submit via e-filling ? and how do I obtain the pin for e-filling ?


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QUOTE(J'Daniel @ Jan 16 2009, 06:05 PM)
Would also like to enquire about my past BE form

For the 2 years ago BE form, can I submit via e-filling ? and how do I obtain the pin for e-filling ?
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Nope. Go to the nearest LHDN office and get form from there. Or, print yourself. make sure you do print single side using laser printer. E-filing pin can also be obtained in their office, but then they have yet to open the BE e-filing server for YA2008.

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13. Purchase of a personal computer -RM 3000.00 (MAX) 3 yrs claim 1 time..


I'm buying a laptop and a desktop at one go, obviosly it's gonna cost more than 3k..

can I submit the maximum amount?

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I'm buying a laptop and a desktop at one go, obviosly it's gonna cost more than 3k..

can I submit the maximum amount?

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J' Daniel,

Under the current tax declaration system, it is the responsibility of the tax payer to make sure all the info and data declared is accurate. Normally the IRB won't come to check your supporting. But, if they noticed you have under declared the income, maybe from other sources. e.g u bought a very expensive property which ur declared income can't afford it. then they will come to knock ur door. by the time, they will give u simple calculation to show u ur income doesn't matched with ur property. and then they will give u some times to prepare the tax computation and declare accordingly. so, if the tax payable computed is much higher than previously u declared, u will kena penalty and if is serious, u kena masuk lokap lar.

so, my advise is dun play play with them. anyway, u could try to reduce ur tax payable by doing some tax planning. pls let me know if u need our help. we have an accounting and tax firm located at Damansara Utama. thanks.




QUOTE(J'Daniel @ Jan 9 2009, 05:04 PM)
any tax payer can confirm how often they check receipt of proof ?

What if I put less salary in my BE .. like exclude my allowances etc etc ?

as I know, they don't need our JE form for declare income right ?
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Added on January 17, 2009, 3:47 pmJ' Daniel,

by the way, urs is enterprise or Sdn Bhd?

Let me assuming it was a Sdn Bhd and my point is:

this is considered as backlog cases already. the IRB will find u in one day. could be not now, but maybe within next few years. by that time, they would allow u to have sometime to prepare ur company accounts book keeping. and then send to auditor for audit and then tax agent to prepare the tax computation for tax filing. u may negotiate with the IRB officer a schedule to submit all the late cases.

but in ur tax filing later on which find out need to pay tax, the IRB will fine u. if is serious, then kena masuk lokap juga......


if it was an enterprise, more or less the same as above. just that dun need send for audit.


pls let me know if u need us to help u on the tax filing. thanks.


QUOTE(J'Daniel @ Jan 15 2009, 05:47 PM)
Hmm what if I don't have EA form ? haven't declare for the past 3 years ... old company

Not sure how to declare though
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QUOTE(peterlee @ Jan 13 2009, 04:55 PM)

U guys know how long it takes to refund? i heard many people said it takes forever! But from your experience?
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if PCB refund, very fast from my experience.. tongue.gif like within 2 months time..if that's what u meant.. biggrin.gif
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hi all, i would like to ask the tax gurus here about my situation,


i have 3 separate job incomes and for some years i have only declared 2 of them due to the last one always giving the ea form late ie after april. the 3rd income is reflected in the epf. recently i bought 2 properties and the combined downpayment equals to around 40 to 50 % of my declared income over maybe 5 years combined. is the lhdn gonna fine me gao gao or seeing my downpayment is still kinda reasonable just gonna leave me? i intend to declare all 3 this year by the way...

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I got an assignment to do.
The topic is on personal relief,whether it is enough or not..
I am going to conduct a survey on that topic
but then I got no idea to ask in my questionnaire...
anyone could help me...
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Seem like very serious case sweat.gif

But I see like majority of my colleague doesn't even bother about income tax thingy, in MNC somemore

I went to LHDN yesterday ... BE 2006 and 2007 have to submit manual.
I ask for the pin, they say April only got ... each pin valid for a year onli

normally if manual submit, just give the BE will do ? Do i need to wait for their feedback or whatever thing ? unsure.gif
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Will be filling income tax for next year.
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If i have 3 houses which yield rent do i need to put in income tax thing??
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QUOTE(arsenal @ Jan 31 2009, 12:32 AM)
If i have 3 houses which yield rent do i need to put in income tax thing??
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Yes, whatever that is not classified as tax-exempted income, all income are deemed taxable which you need to declare.


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QUOTE(J'Daniel @ Jan 30 2009, 07:48 PM)
Seem like very serious case sweat.gif

But I see like majority of my colleague doesn't even bother about income tax thingy, in MNC somemore

I went to LHDN yesterday ... BE 2006 and 2007 have to submit manual.
I ask for the pin, they say April only got ... each pin valid for a year onli

normally if manual submit, just give the BE will do ? Do i need to wait for their feedback or whatever thing ? unsure.gif
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Now all are under self-asssessment.

You don't wait their feedback to submit, it is your responsible to do so.

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QUOTE(J'Daniel @ Jan 30 2009, 07:48 PM)
Seem like very serious case sweat.gif

But I see like majority of my colleague doesn't even bother about income tax thingy, in MNC somemore

I went to LHDN yesterday ... BE 2006 and 2007 have to submit manual.
I ask for the pin, they say April only got ... each pin valid for a year onli

normally if manual submit, just give the BE will do ? Do i need to wait for their feedback or whatever thing ? unsure.gif
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just updated my income tax calculator, have a look at it (refer my signature) to prepare for the upcoming e-filing. hehehe tongue.gif

after submission, thats all...if LHDN finds any irregularities, they will call for audit. by the way, you cannot claim back the excess PCB if they find any issues with your tax submission.


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QUOTE(small lady @ Jan 30 2009, 07:01 PM)
I got an assignment to do.
The topic is on personal relief,whether it is enough or not..
I am going to conduct a survey on that topic
but then I got no idea to ask in my questionnaire...
anyone could help me...
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well for starters you can check out how did the government came up with the RM8000 personal relief? given the cost of living such as house rent, fuel costs, internet, phones, etc etc they should revise that by now..

there are also other reliefs which can be checked out like RM3000 only for education fund, RM300 only for sports equipment.. hope you can come up with a good questionnaire that might be able to forward to the government the results...heheh..good luck.

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Thanks all !

What I mean is, after I submit ... do I need to wait their feedback ?

Do I get to confirm on my rebate instantly ?
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thanks attahun..

one more Q,
the min salary that should pay tax?
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QUOTE(small lady @ Jan 30 2009, 07:01 PM)
I got an assignment to do.
The topic is on personal relief,whether it is enough or not..
I am going to conduct a survey on that topic
but then I got no idea to ask in my questionnaire...
anyone could help me...
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If you intend to ask whether the current personal relief (8K) is enough or not, I don't think you need to do a survey. I can assure you, the answer will be 99.9% not enough, haha. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(small lady @ Jan 30 2009, 07:01 PM)
I got an assignment to do.
The topic is on personal relief,whether it is enough or not..
I am going to conduct a survey on that topic
but then I got no idea to ask in my questionnaire...
anyone could help me...
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Think you have to probe into rationale of government introduce the relief (e.g. computer to encourage people go blogging etc, if that's the purpose, I not sure about their rationale brows.gif ), then check the time they implement and study the trend of inflation, tax rate, environment etc. Then only you can start argue of sufficient of such relief. From there without survey you already can write a book loh tongue.gif

Agree with cherroy on the survey thing, no one will have enough relief, if you have enough, mind transfer some to me... haha... biggrin.gif
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I believed the LHDN collections will be lesser this year, many companies will be declaring lower taxable income for YA 2008. Some will deliberately declare lower, in-line with the economy.

Their officers will have a lot of work on their hands.
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thanks to you all..
where can i get salary bracket,or tax bracket? im not really sure the term for it..
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QUOTE(J'Daniel @ Jan 31 2009, 12:09 PM)
Thanks all !

What I mean is, after I submit ... do I need to wait their feedback ?

Do I get to confirm on my rebate instantly ?
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what rebate u're referring to? if it is the rm350, it is automatically given to u when u do the e-filing if you declared taxable income below rm35,000.


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thanks attahun..

one more Q,
the min salary that should pay tax?
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i did a calculation back then, if not mistaken when your monthly salary is RM2233/month, your tax would be about RM1. This is basic calculations for a single, with no other exemptions. You can use my calculator to check for other cases of income.


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thanks to you all..
where can i get salary bracket,or tax bracket? im not really sure the term for it..
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care to elaborate further? what bracket are u referring to? if you are talking about the 'percent of tax against your income' bracket, you can get the information from LHDN website. My calculator also has it for easy reference.

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Hi guys..... i got some questions here:
1) I started to work on June 07 but i didn't submit the BE 07 last year & somehow my ex company helped me to register with LHDN already. So do i need to re-submit the BE 2007 or do i just pretend that i had forgotten about it? tongue.gif

2) This year, i'm going to declare my tax. So do i just need to fill in the BE 08 & submit it to LHDN by postage? Anyway, i'm not too sure how to fill in the BE form, can i go to the LHDN office & ask for the officers there to fill in for me? rclxub.gif

3) As my annual income is less than 30k, will they (LHDN) even bother to entertain me? I heard one of my fren said the officer tell him to "balik" when he went there doh.gif

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QUOTE(fergie1100 @ Feb 2 2009, 03:43 PM)
Hi guys..... i got some questions here:
1) I started to work on June 07 but i didn't submit the BE 07 last year & somehow my ex company helped me to register with LHDN already. So do i need to re-submit the BE 2007 or do i just pretend that i had forgotten about it?  tongue.gif

2) This year, i'm going to declare my tax. So do i just need to fill in the BE 08 & submit it to LHDN by postage? Anyway, i'm not too sure how to fill in the BE form, can i go to the LHDN office & ask for the officers there to fill in for me?  rclxub.gif

3) As my annual income is less than 30k, will they (LHDN) even bother to entertain me? I heard one of my fren said the officer tell him to "balik" when he went there  doh.gif
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1) must submit..if not penalized like rm50 or some value i dunno, better submit coz u might not be paying that much

2) Now use E-filing easier. get e-pin at LHDN and submit tax online. easy.

3) you have to calculate to be sure. i read somewhere this guy was asked to 'balik', next year got penalized for not declaring his tax the year before.. tongue.gif got cheated by LHDN...haha
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QUOTE(attahun @ Feb 2 2009, 10:14 PM)
1) must submit..if not penalized like rm50 or some value i dunno, better submit coz u might not be paying that much

2) Now use E-filing easier. get e-pin at LHDN and submit tax online. easy.

3) you have to calculate to be sure. i read somewhere this guy was asked to 'balik', next year got penalized for not declaring his tax the year before.. tongue.gif got cheated by LHDN...haha
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Hi attahun, thanks for the repy smile.gif
1) i guess i can't use E-Filing anymore as it's already year 2008. So do i have to go to the nearest LHDN for re-submitting my BE2007?
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2) I see.... hmmm, i'd a glance on the BE 2007 form & i found that it's too complicated for me to fill in tongue.gif so if i declare it online, they can't see my EA form.... How are they going to know if i fill the form correctly?

3) Gosh, no wonder our G is so rich even though a lot of ppl never declare their tax tongue.gif Is it very crowded at the LHDN office? i'm just afraid no one there will entertain me & they don't have patience with my noobish question.....zzzz
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QUOTE(fergie1100 @ Feb 3 2009, 11:21 AM)
Hi attahun, thanks for the repy  smile.gif
1) i guess i can't use E-Filing anymore as it's already year 2008. So do i have to go to the nearest LHDN for re-submitting my BE2007?


2) I see.... hmmm, i'd a glance on the BE 2007 form & i found that it's too complicated for me to fill in tongue.gif so if i declare it online, they can't see my EA form.... How are they going to know if i fill the form correctly?

3) Gosh, no wonder our G is so rich even though a lot of ppl never declare their tax  tongue.gif  Is it very crowded at the LHDN office? i'm just afraid no one there will entertain me & they don't have patience with my noobish question.....zzzz
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1) well you use the e-filing for BE2008 which shall be up soon coz deadline is april every year...so regularly check the LHDN website for updates but it should within this month, feb'08. In the e-filing BE2008, there shall be a column at the bottom for past year tax re-submission but i'm not really sure how it works as i never tried it. You can check Sample Borang BE2008 and Description of BE2008, both docs are available at LHDN website. You may still need to go to LHDN to get your E-PIN to enable you to login into e-filing for BE2008 though, and while you're there, just ask them a bit if you want to.

2) if you declare online it'd be easier for u and under self assessment system, you have to keep relevant documents (EA forms, receipt and etc) for a period of 7 years in case they call u for audit. trust me its not that complicated. For reference of the e-filing format you can refer back to the BE2008 pdf file, to practice calculate you can use my calculator.. they will check your form especially when you claim back extra deductions and if you have any errors or discrepancy, they may call you for audit, or they will just buat dunno...hehe..

3) depends on location, LHDN office not so crowded.. but dont go there to submit your tax form, then only it'll be crowded. I suggest you go now, show your ic and get the E-pin or digital cert
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This year's Borang E 2008, a declaration for Employer is a lot more in details where all employees name, tax no, PCB deducted and their taxable income is recorded and filed to the IRB.

So for those who have been not filing their BE, for year 2008 and onwards, i don't think u can run away...
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I tried to get the E-Pin but they said its only available April rclxub.gif

The rebate is for everything .. like the auto relief rm8k, and magazine and whatever rebate we submited. LHDN will calculate total and see we overpaid or underpaid ... and then we have to pay extra ? or maybe they pay us back ..

Do this process all happend on the spot we submit ?
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ya. this year very detail. need to list down all the employees whose income > RM30K in 2008.

this will help IRB to trace whoever not declared the income tax.


QUOTE(GeminiGeek @ Feb 3 2009, 12:14 PM)
This year's Borang E 2008, a declaration for Employer is a lot more in details where all employees name, tax no, PCB deducted and their taxable income is recorded and filed to the IRB.
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QUOTE(J'Daniel @ Feb 3 2009, 12:20 PM)
I tried to get the E-Pin but they said its only available April rclxub.gif

The rebate is for everything .. like the auto relief rm8k, and magazine and whatever rebate we submited. LHDN will calculate total and see we overpaid or underpaid ... and then we have to pay extra ? or maybe they pay us back ..

Do this process all happend on the spot we submit ?
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E-pin only in April? is that correct?

If you do e-filing, you have to declare during that time for the rebate/reliefs that you're entitled and have receipt of such claims (magazine / medicals). the e-filing will auto-calculate your tax and see if you have to top up or claim for refund (note that if your PCB is more than your tax, you have to file separate form to claim refund)..i think u tried my calculator right j'Daniel?? the e-filing is similar format, i just made it into spreadsheet to plan for my tax..

IF you are audited, only then LHDN will calculate all the reliefs you claimed (must have receipts)...if no receipts but u still claim during the e-filing, you will be fined for misdeclaring ur tax..


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ya. this year very detail. need to list down all the employees whose income > RM30K in 2008.

this will help IRB to trace whoever not declared the income tax.
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walauwehh..now they have e-filing so their staff got more free time to do more extra work ehh?? or is it they plan to fine everyone who dont declare tax, that way they can get more money...hahaha..sokonglah kerajaan...

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QUOTE(J'Daniel @ Feb 3 2009, 12:20 PM)
I tried to get the E-Pin but they said its only available April rclxub.gif

The rebate is for everything .. like the auto relief rm8k, and magazine and whatever rebate we submited. LHDN will calculate total and see we overpaid or underpaid ... and then we have to pay extra ? or maybe they pay us back ..

Do this process all happend on the spot we submit ?
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Pin no for personal efiling is available now. Just go to the nearest LHDN branch b4 it gets too crowded as efiling BE/B2008 just started today
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QUOTE(kswong77 @ Feb 3 2009, 12:31 PM)
ya. this year very detail. need to list down all the employees whose income > RM30K in 2008.

this will help IRB to trace whoever not declared the income tax.
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....ks, so for employees whose 2008 income did not exceed RM30K, then there is no need for list down, right ?

Or need to list down all employees, regardless of salary amount ?

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It's either 30k a year employee, or 2.5k a month employee. So, it simply means if you (as employer) help your employee to deduct PCB for any particular month in 2008, you have to fill his/her name.

You can refer the form here:
http://www.hasil.gov.my/cP/upload/Form/Nya...%20E%202008.pdf
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lawyer,

what gemini mentioned is correct.

i believe for company doing the Filing of Form E, they might need to tie the listing in the Form E with the Company total salary cost in 2008. so, might need to sum all those not in the category of > 30k a year employee, or 2.5k a month employee.


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It's either 30k a year employee, or 2.5k a month employee. So, it simply means if you (as employer) help your employee to deduct PCB for any particular month in 2008, you have to fill his/her name.

You can refer the form here:
http://www.hasil.gov.my/cP/upload/Form/Nya...%20E%202008.pdf
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Is there any guide anywhere for any beginners regarding this Income Tax thing? Total noob here regarding this and any information might help. I began working at 2007 and obtain a Income Tax Number from my company who register for me. Question here is :

1) Do i need to fill in anything for the year (2007) cause i never did anything due to i dont know what to do. And besides, whats the range of salary for a person to be taxable? If i did not hit the taxable range on that particular year, do i still need to register or something?

2) Received a BE form a few weeks ago and what shall i do with it? Any guidelines would be good smile.gif

3) Regarding e-Filling that i had been looking while browsing through this thread, is it possible to apply any way else except going to LHDN office? And do their office opens on weekends?

Sorry for all the noobish question. Never been into this before. smile.gif
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QUOTE(akachester @ Feb 5 2009, 05:23 PM)
Is there any guide anywhere for any beginners regarding this Income Tax thing? Total noob here regarding this and any information might help. I began working at 2007 and obtain a Income Tax Number from my company who register for me. Question here is :

1) Do i need to fill in anything for the year (2007) cause i never did anything due to i dont know what to do. And besides, whats the range of salary for a person to be taxable? If i did not hit the taxable range on that particular year, do i still need to register or something?

2) Received a BE form a few weeks ago and what shall i do with it? Any guidelines would be good smile.gif

3) Regarding e-Filling that i had been looking while browsing through this thread, is it possible to apply any way else except going to LHDN office? And do their office opens on weekends?

Sorry for all the noobish question. Never been into this before. smile.gif
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1) By right, you should receive BE 2007 last year, if your employer have been deducting PCB/STD from your monthly salary. For your employer to start deducting your salary for Income Tax, you're earning at least RM2,500 a month, for a person who's single. If you happen to be not taxable for that year, but you are previously taxable, you still have to fill your form and declare your income. Once you're registered with the LHDN, you have the obligation to submit and declare your income.

2/3) If you're too lazy to go to the office, go do submission via e-filing. They have just opened their B/BE 2008 e-filing server. If you're a first time user, do a first time login and key in the pin you have in the form you received and register yourself an e-filing account. Filling the online form is pretty self explanatory. Just fill it accordingly based on your EA form.

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Pin no for personal efiling is available now. Just go to the nearest LHDN branch b4 it gets too crowded as efiling BE/B2008 just started today
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Owh is it ? So fast ready ? I drive all the way so far to LHDN but end up no PIN.

Can we actually request the PIN via phone call ?
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J'Daniel, have you received your Form BE2008? The pin is in there too. If you're using e-filing for BE2007 last year, you don't have to request for pin anymore...
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Wish to ask sth regarding the telephone bill and internet subscription relief.. is it the phone bill we receive monthly able to do the relief? someone enlighten me on this pls.. thanks..
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No. there's no telephone bill and internet subscription relief.

HOWEVER, if your employer pays for your telephone bill and internet subscription, it is subject to exemption. I still can't confirm whether is exemption is on full allowance given or based on the bills paid for (where the balance is still taxable).
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QUOTE(GeminiGeek @ Feb 5 2009, 05:54 PM)
1) By right, you should receive BE 2007 last year, if your employer have been deducting PCB/STD from your monthly salary. For your employer to start deducting your salary for Income Tax, you're earning at least RM2,500 a month, for a person who's single. If you happen to be not taxable for that year, but you are previously taxable, you still have to fill your form and declare your income. Once you're registered with the LHDN, you have the obligation to submit and declare your income.

2/3) If you're too lazy to go to the office, go do submission via e-filing. They have just opened their B/BE 2008 e-filing server. If you're a first time user, do a first time login and key in the pin you have in the form you received and register yourself an e-filing account. Filling the online form is pretty self explanatory. Just fill it accordingly based on your EA form.
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Thanks for the info there.

Questions again.

1) Regarding the BE 2007, my employer did deduct on one month of my salary. That speaking, my salary does not reach RM2,500 but at a particular month, i am given an allowance claim which incidentally, made it over RM2,500. Does that mean i still need to declare my BE2007? If i have not declare yet, what shall i do at this point? Will i be fined?

2) Thanks for the tip on the e-filling. Will definitely look into that. Anyway, does LHDN office opens on weekends and until what time? Is there any office nearby KL area?

3) And i would like to know, how much will i be charged for income tax for a specific amount of salary obtained? Is there any chart stating how much will be charged for a certain amount of salary?

Thanks..
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QUOTE(akachester @ Feb 6 2009, 09:01 AM)
Thanks for the info there.

Questions again.

1) Regarding the BE 2007, my employer did deduct on one month of my salary. That speaking, my salary does not reach RM2,500 but at a particular month, i am given an allowance claim which incidentally, made it over RM2,500. Does that mean i still need to declare my BE2007? If i have not declare yet, what shall i do at this point? Will i be fined?

2) Thanks for the tip on the e-filling. Will definitely look into that. Anyway, does LHDN office opens on weekends and until what time? Is there any office nearby KL area?

3) And i would like to know, how much will i be charged for income tax for a specific amount of salary obtained? Is there any chart stating how much will be charged for a certain amount of salary?

Thanks..
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1) BE2007 submission is closed already. I'd suggest you to just declare the BE2008 for the last year submission and then there shall be 'back years income undeclared' column. Just fill that in and let me know what happens. tongue.gif

2) LHDN offices are available at their website: HERE

3) Check at the LHDN website and you can get the tax schedule. Or you can download a calculator from my site, the tax schedule is also included. Cheers.


Added on February 6, 2009, 9:28 am
QUOTE(GeminiGeek @ Feb 5 2009, 07:25 PM)
J'Daniel, have you received your Form BE2008? The pin is in there too. If you're using e-filing for BE2007 last year, you don't have to request for pin anymore...
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if you did e-filing the year before, you will also not be sent the physical forms anymore.

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Hmm I did not receive BE 2008 .. you mean LHDN will send to me ?? So far I never receive any BE in my 3 year working lol ...


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Just notice in e-filing have a deduction for SSPN up to 3,000.
So if have wife and 1 child, can deduct up to 3 + 1 + 3 = 7,000 every year
provided you deposit 3,000 every year into SSPN.
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QUOTE(getsmart @ Feb 6 2009, 10:46 AM)
Just notice in e-filing have a deduction for SSPN up to 3,000.
So if have wife and 1 child, can deduct up to 3 + 1 + 3 = 7,000 every year
provided you deposit 3,000 every year into SSPN.
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correct.

but do note that if you already claim for that, your wife cannot claim for the 1 kid and SSPN. it would be best to see whose salary is bigger, if your salary is comparable, you can let your wife to take up the claim on children as to minimize her tax, since you already got the claim on wife. tongue.gif SSPN also applies the same way but since SSPN account has a bearer name, not sure whether either father or mother can claim or must be the one with the name.
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QUOTE(attahun @ Feb 6 2009, 09:25 AM)
1) BE2007 submission is closed already. I'd suggest you to just declare the BE2008 for the last year submission and then there shall be 'back years income undeclared' column. Just fill that in and let me know what happens.  tongue.gif

2) LHDN offices are available at their website: HERE

3) Check at the LHDN website and you can get the tax schedule. Or you can download a calculator from my site, the tax schedule is also included. Cheers.


Added on February 6, 2009, 9:28 am
if you did e-filing the year before, you will also not be sent the physical forms anymore.
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Thanks for the information there smile.gif

One more question, i have received my BE already but asking just in case, if i did not receive it, what shall i do? Wait for it to come or i can get it somewhere else?
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QUOTE(getsmart @ Feb 6 2009, 10:46 AM)
Just notice in e-filing have a deduction for SSPN up to 3,000.
So if have wife and 1 child, can deduct up to 3 + 1 + 3 = 7,000 every year
provided you deposit 3,000 every year into SSPN.
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??? Each taxpayer can claim to max RM3000 for SSPN, So taxpayer can claim RM 3000 and wife also claim RM 3000 if assesment is made seperately.


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QUOTE(akachester @ Feb 6 2009, 09:01 AM)
Thanks for the info there.

Questions again.

1) Regarding the BE 2007, my employer did deduct on one month of my salary. That speaking, my salary does not reach RM2,500 but at a particular month, i am given an allowance claim which incidentally, made it over RM2,500. Does that mean i still need to declare my BE2007? If i have not declare yet, what shall i do at this point? Will i be fined?

Thanks..
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You can still file for BE2007 but must be done manually. Either go to the nearest LHDN office and get a BE 2007 or else download pdf format from LHDN website and print with laser printer on A4 size paper(specs are strict). If you are taxable there may be a penalty. If you don't file then you will not be able to claim for your 2007 PCB deduction. DO NOT declare your 2007 income in the arrears section of your 2008 form.

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QUOTE(akachester @ Feb 6 2009, 09:01 AM)
Thanks for the info there.

Questions again.

1) Regarding the BE 2007, my employer did deduct on one month of my salary. That speaking, my salary does not reach RM2,500 but at a particular month, i am given an allowance claim which incidentally, made it over RM2,500. Does that mean i still need to declare my BE2007? If i have not declare yet, what shall i do at this point? Will i be fined?

2) Thanks for the tip on the e-filling. Will definitely look into that. Anyway, does LHDN office opens on weekends and until what time? Is there any office nearby KL area?

3) And i would like to know, how much will i be charged for income tax for a specific amount of salary obtained? Is there any chart stating how much will be charged for a certain amount of salary?

Thanks..
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i think you should count by total earning of the year and not by monthly salary ...

if not mistaken, if over 27k annual earning then need submit the BE form ...
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eventhough ur income is still not subject to tax, u may elect to do the tax filing as well. From all these yearly filing, the IRB will know how much u have earned throught out ur employment and won't challenge u when u wanna to buy a house.

e.g ur monthly income is RM2,500. so the annual income is RM30,000. let say u worked for 10 years at the same level of income. then u already earned RM300,000. and now u wanna to buy a house with cash of RM100,000. then the IRB won't challenge u.

but, let say u never do the tax filing. and now u wanna to buy a house with cash of RM100,000. sure IRB will immediately send the Form BE to u.


for those not received the Form BE from IRB, maybe is because u never register and open the tax file with them. so, i suggest u to let ur HR department to open for u or u personally go to IRB office to do it.


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Hi Guys,

Need some advice... From the spreadsheet of attahun, I found that last year i start enter higher tax blacket... the tax is really painful. My income just purely salary from my employment. Basically i oredi maximized my relief legally, books, sport, kwsp, medical insurance, donation, computer (oredi claimed previous year smile.gif. I think there is no chance for me to reduce my tax for 2008 oredi..

However, i think this year i would kena again. Is there any idea how could i reduce my tax legally?

From my own study:
1. Get a wife and get kids.... Tax relief but more expenses tongue.gif
2. Spend more on medical... company covered oredi.
3. Pay medical for parents... a bit lucky cos parents still healthy

If i pay SSPN for my siblings, could i entitled for tax? (my father still working....)
Or could i make some business then use the kerugian in business to reduce my income??? (i have no idea on this)

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Is it ok if i categorized relief on childen age below 18,above 18,
relief on notebook,
relief on pursue study
and purchasing books as under educational relief?
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Hmm I did not receive BE 2008 .. you mean LHDN will send to me ?? So far I never receive any BE in my 3 year working lol ...
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Hmm anyone can clarify this ? notworthy.gif notworthy.gif
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since they intro the online submission they wont send to all people already the form ...
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Hi Guys,

Need some advice... From the spreadsheet of attahun, I found that last year i start enter higher tax blacket... the tax is really painful. My income just purely salary from my employment. Basically i oredi maximized my relief legally, books, sport, kwsp, medical insurance, donation, computer (oredi claimed previous year smile.gif. I think there is no chance for me to reduce my tax for 2008 oredi..

However, i think this year i would kena again. Is there any idea how could i reduce my tax legally?

From my own study:
1. Get a wife and get kids.... Tax relief but more expenses  tongue.gif
2. Spend more on medical... company covered oredi.
3. Pay medical for parents... a bit lucky cos parents still healthy

If i pay SSPN for my siblings, could i entitled for tax? (my father still working....)
Or could i make some business then use the kerugian in business to reduce my income??? (i have no idea on this)
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if you've maximized the other reliefs (with receipts/proofs, i hope), guess there's not much room for reducing the tax i guess.

You still can donate to charity though...thats a way to reduce the tax bracket by lowering the taxable income.

another method would be to ask your company to give allowance rather than high salary, allowance such as phone allowance, internet allowance and others are not taxable if not mistaken... but this you have to arrange with company.
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not all charity got tax deduction
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Kekekeke.........Income tax submission againnnnnnnnn
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QUOTE(toto4d @ Feb 7 2009, 12:54 PM)
Hi Guys,

Need some advice... From the spreadsheet of attahun, I found that last year i start enter higher tax blacket... the tax is really painful. My income just purely salary from my employment. Basically i oredi maximized my relief legally, books, sport, kwsp, medical insurance, donation, computer (oredi claimed previous year smile.gif. I think there is no chance for me to reduce my tax for 2008 oredi..

However, i think this year i would kena again. Is there any idea how could i reduce my tax legally?

From my own study:
1. Get a wife and get kids.... Tax relief but more expenses  tongue.gif
2. Spend more on medical... company covered oredi.
3. Pay medical for parents... a bit lucky cos parents still healthy

If i pay SSPN for my siblings, could i entitled for tax? (my father still working....)
Or could i make some business then use the kerugian in business to reduce my income??? (i have no idea on this)
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Rugi money just to reduce income tax? You have to be sole proprietor or in perkongsian to do that. Register and keep record will be a bit troublesome, and I don't see point of rugi 100% just to get 20+% back, and it will be illegal to massage the account. blink.gif
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QUOTE(htt @ Feb 8 2009, 02:43 PM)
Rugi money just to reduce income tax? You have to be sole proprietor or in perkongsian to do that. Register and keep record will be a bit troublesome, and I don't see point of rugi 100% just to get 20+% back, and it will be illegal to massage the account. blink.gif
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1. marry to the royal family
2. become ADUN , or menteri

then you no need to pay tax
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QUOTE(attahun @ Feb 8 2009, 11:58 AM)
if you've maximized the other reliefs (with receipts/proofs, i hope), guess there's not much room for reducing the tax i guess.

You still can donate  to charity though...thats a way to reduce the tax bracket by lowering the taxable income.

another method would be to ask your company to give allowance rather than high salary, allowance such as phone allowance, internet allowance and others are not taxable if not mistaken... but this you have to arrange with company.
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Nope, it is all taxable. Everything come into your pocket is taxable unless stated otherwise, by right, if one collected RM1,000 at the roadside, it is still considered taxable under the law as it is your income. tongue.gif

Even if your company buy you a phone or give the company to drive around or your personal usage instead give you higher salary, it is still taxable under benefit in kind.

Once one has the full tax relief, then pay the tax lor. Actually one should be glad one is paying more tax, as it just means you are making more money.


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1. marry to the royal family
2. become ADUN , or menteri

then you no need to pay tax
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Kekekeke.........Income tax submission againnnnnnnnn
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All including Adun, menteri or PM also need to pay tax.

Please don't treat the finance section as ranting place or kopitiam talk. Occassion making fun in between seems no harm done, but constantly doing it will be seen as spamming.

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Hehe.... ya, seems like very difficult to reduce the tax... nvm lo, become good citizen.

cherroy : For 2009, there are few more items add-on for the tax relief. This was announced in the 2009 Budget. e.g. relief up to Rm 2400 for transport allowance. Mean if your company pay you transport allowance, u can at get tax-exemption for the RM 2400, the remaining will be taxable as normal.

I am glad that my company did respond to that and give us transport allowance start this year, but it's difficult to ask for other allowances to swap my current pay as HR system in my company quite rigid. Not much changes can be made.


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not all charity got tax deduction
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Yupe, need to make sure the donation is entitled for tax-exemption. I like Mercy cos they really do the job and they will issue a receipt for us to get the tax relief.

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Nope, it is all taxable. Everything come into your pocket is taxable unless stated otherwise, by right, if one collected RM1,000 at the roadside, it is still considered taxable under the law as it is your income.  tongue.gif

Even if your company buy you a phone or give the company to drive around or your personal usage instead give you higher salary, it is still taxable under benefit in kind.

Once one has the full tax relief, then pay the tax lor. Actually one should be glad one is paying more tax, as it just means you are making more money.


Added on February 8, 2009, 2:59 pm
All including Adun, menteri or PM also need to pay tax.

Please don't treat the finance section as ranting place or kopitiam talk. Occassion making fun in between seems no harm done, but constantly doing it will be seen as spamming.
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Cheeroy, who said I was spamming. This is the fact. Please refer to Schedule 6 of the Income Tax Act 1967.

Regarding my Note No. 1 can find in Sch 6 ITA.
Note 2 : Its an income tax exemption order which is also part of the internal circulations. I dont think you will be able to find this.

You think I like to spam in here?
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QUOTE(wufei @ Feb 8 2009, 04:21 PM)
Cheeroy, who said I was spamming. This is the fact. Please refer to Schedule 6 of the Income Tax Act 1967.

Regarding my Note No. 1 can find in Sch 6 ITA.
Note 2 : Its an income tax exemption order which is also part of the internal circulations. I dont think you will be able to find this.

You think I like to spam in here?
Wah! Salute le. But option 1 is almost impossible la, give me oso dun want.
Just curious, for your Note 2, if someone become ADUN for 1 term only, the tax-exemption is still effective for whole life after he/she step-down? (hopefully not considered as spam)
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QUOTE(wufei @ Feb 8 2009, 04:21 PM)
Cheeroy, who said I was spamming. This is the fact. Please refer to Schedule 6 of the Income Tax Act 1967.

Regarding my Note No. 1 can find in Sch 6 ITA.
Note 2 : Its an income tax exemption order which is also part of the internal circulations. I dont think you will be able to find this.

You think I like to spam in here?
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Note 2 Internal circulation of exemption order? What you mean by this?
Under the law, or formal internal circulation, ADUN, menteri doesn't need to pay tax?

If it is out of schedule of tax exemption, then it is out, they need to pay tax.
We need prove to show ADUN and menteri don't need to pay tax.

I am respond to your post and guide into the discussion point of this thread. Don't want to see this thread getting out of hand and being reported, after all this thread is an serious and proper discussion thread on personal income tax relief or personal tax issue. smile.gif

We just want this thread grow into meaningful and useful thread to all. smile.gif

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Wah! Salute le. But option 1 is almost impossible la, give me oso dun want.
Just curious, for your Note 2, if someone become ADUN for 1 term only, the tax-exemption is still effective for whole life after he/she step-down? (hopefully not considered as spam)
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It is not a spam, instead it is a good discussion point.


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cherroy : For 2009, there are few more items add-on for the tax relief. This was announced in the 2009 Budget. e.g. relief up to Rm 2400 for transport allowance. Mean if your company pay you transport allowance, u can at get tax-exemption for the RM 2400, the remaining will be taxable as normal.

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Thanks for the reminder.

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Those dividend statements i got in 2008 still show income tax at 26% deducted from the dividend.
As I understand, we can no longer claim dividend deduction under section 110 now right?
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Those dividend statements i got in 2008 still show income tax at 26% deducted from the dividend.
As I understand, we can no longer claim dividend deduction under section 110 now right?
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It depends.

Under single tier system, no.

Under old imputation system, still can claim back.

Now, there is mixture on both as those company still having lot of tax credit will comtinue to pay dividend under old system, while those company has used up the tax credit or already in new single tier system will declared dividend under the new system.

Any tax credit unused will be void after 2013, if not mistaken, they gave grace period of 5 years for company to clear up the tax credit.

Correct me if I am wrong,

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QUOTE(getsmart @ Feb 8 2009, 05:26 PM)
Those dividend statements i got in 2008 still show income tax at 26% deducted from the dividend.
As I understand, we can no longer claim dividend deduction under section 110 now right?
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So long you got dividend under old imputation system (aka dividend with clearly stated 25% or 26% been deducted), still can claim.
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Thanks Cherroy and htt. My statements do show tax was deducted.
Was thinking of ignoring them but then the e-filling still has this option and i was wondering why it's still there.
Now i know.

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QUOTE(wufei @ Feb 8 2009, 04:21 PM)
Cheeroy, who said I was spamming. This is the fact. Please refer to Schedule 6 of the Income Tax Act 1967.

Regarding my Note No. 1 can find in Sch 6 ITA.
Note 2 : Its an income tax exemption order which is also part of the internal circulations. I dont think you will be able to find this.

You think I like to spam in here?
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Only state/parlimentary allowances received by ADUN is tax exempted, other income e.g rent , partnership profits,salary from other source, spouse income is taxable.
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Feb 8 2009, 02:57 PM)
Nope, it is all taxable. Everything come into your pocket is taxable unless stated otherwise, by right, if one collected RM1,000 at the roadside, it is still considered taxable under the law as it is your income.  tongue.gif

Even if your company buy you a phone or give the company to drive around or your personal usage instead give you higher salary, it is still taxable under benefit in kind.

Once one has the full tax relief, then pay the tax lor. Actually one should be glad one is paying more tax, as it just means you are making more money.


Added on February 8, 2009, 2:59 pm
All including Adun, menteri or PM also need to pay tax.

Please don't treat the finance section as ranting place or kopitiam talk. Occassion making fun in between seems no harm done, but constantly doing it will be seen as spamming.
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somebody mentioned about this, internet allowance gets exemption.. too lazy to search around...its a new exemption by the government.


Added on February 16, 2009, 2:32 pmanybody filed in their e-filing yet? still waiting for EA form. Anyhow i managed to login into e-filing using old login.. rclxms.gif

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Argh,

I just realized that having big bonus also bumps up your payable tax by a huge amount. My monthly deductions in 08 were like $140 a month only, but after taking my bonus into account & all the deductions, seems like I'm going to have to pay an extra 3.5k to IRB ... =_=;;

/sigh
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just a question , do Bank interest consider taxable income as well ?
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QUOTE(lgs @ Mar 3 2009, 09:41 PM)
just a question , do Bank interest consider taxable income as well ?
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Yes.
Some country have different rule.


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QUOTE(deodorant @ Mar 3 2009, 07:03 PM)
Argh,

I just realized that having big bonus also bumps up your payable tax by a huge amount. My monthly deductions in 08 were like $140 a month only, but after taking my bonus into account & all the deductions, seems like I'm going to have to pay an extra 3.5k to IRB ... =_=;;

/sigh
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Earn income is the highest taxed income.
Once you get a pay raise, guess what.
Your government get their share too. biggrin.gif

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Any website can recommend in filling the forms? First job, work for alrdy 1 year, no idea in filling the form....
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QUOTE(deodorant @ Mar 3 2009, 07:03 PM)
Argh,

I just realized that having big bonus also bumps up your payable tax by a huge amount. My monthly deductions in 08 were like $140 a month only, but after taking my bonus into account & all the deductions, seems like I'm going to have to pay an extra 3.5k to IRB ... =_=;;

/sigh
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woww must be a big bonus there... rclxms.gif learn to maximize on exemptions to minimize the tax u have to pay.. btw, an EXTRA 3.5K?? thats a lot.. tongue.gif


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QUOTE(aeronlim @ Mar 4 2009, 10:47 AM)
Any website can recommend in filling the forms? First job, work for alrdy 1 year, no idea in filling the form....
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aeronlim, try my calculator.. tongue.gif

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QUOTE(attahun @ Mar 4 2009, 11:47 AM)
woww must be a big bonus there... rclxms.gif  learn to maximize on exemptions to minimize the tax u have to pay.. btw, an EXTRA 3.5K?? thats a lot.. tongue.gif

Of course I could have miscalculated (hopefully), I just did some quick 2-min calculation only. But yea my bonus was about half of my entire year's salary.

Anyway while going through my last year's submission, I suddenly realized that my deduction for life insurance and EPF contributions was left blank! omg! That means I paid too much tax, zzzz. Any idea if I can still go back to income tax office to amend last year's submission?
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QUOTE(deodorant @ Mar 4 2009, 03:21 PM)
Of course I could have miscalculated (hopefully), I just did some quick 2-min calculation only. But yea my bonus was about half of my entire year's salary.

Anyway while going through my last year's submission, I suddenly realized that my deduction for life insurance and EPF contributions was left blank! omg! That means I paid too much tax, zzzz. Any idea if I can still go back to income tax office to amend last year's submission?
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Once submitted, cannot be modified. Somemore it is last year one.

May be some other got such similar experience in it, can share their experience how to do it, or whether they still accept for modification?
As far as I know, most of the time, it is something like one way ticket, you can overpay, but cannot underpay.

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QUOTE(lgs @ Mar 3 2009, 09:41 PM)
just a question , do Bank interest consider taxable income as well ?
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QUOTE(deodorant @ Mar 4 2009, 03:21 PM)
Of course I could have miscalculated (hopefully), I just did some quick 2-min calculation only. But yea my bonus was about half of my entire year's salary.

Anyway while going through my last year's submission, I suddenly realized that my deduction for life insurance and EPF contributions was left blank! omg! That means I paid too much tax, zzzz. Any idea if I can still go back to income tax office to amend last year's submission?
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Yes you can still make an appeal. Appeal have to be made in writing together with your EA form(for the EPF) and annual life insurance statements/receipts. Your audit officer may also ask for the receipts for anything else you have claimed.
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QUOTE(livingmonolith @ Mar 19 2008, 03:20 PM)
7 years to be exact. but unlikely that LHDN will look for you when you are not a bigshot earning millions a year. because even though you claim RM1000 (max), the deduction does not make a very big difference in your payable tax.

um, is it okay we discuss this here? wink.gif
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Added on March 5, 2009, 12:29 am
QUOTE(penangmee @ Mar 5 2009, 12:02 AM)
For Malaysia  it is considered tax at source (final tax) so do not declare in the Form BE/B.
Yes you can still make an appeal. Appeal have to be made in writing together with your EA form(for the EPF) and annual life insurance statements/receipts. Your audit officer may also ask for the receipts for anything else you have claimed.
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I recall reading somewhere that in Budget 2009, interest on deposits exceeding RM100k is no longer taxable.. (previously the bank would deduct tax at source if you have deposits exceeding RM100k) Can someone confirm this?


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langkawi is a free duty location where basically everything is tax free, WTA for example we buy a car from there , izzit tax free oso ? if yes then bring to kl or anywhere else how is the calculation method? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(maggi @ Mar 5 2009, 11:25 PM)
langkawi is a free duty location where basically everything is tax free, WTA for example we buy a car from there , izzit tax free oso ? if yes then bring to kl or anywhere else how is the calculation method?  hmm.gif
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buy car got nothing to do with income tax... rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(Ken @ Feb 8 2009, 10:09 AM)
since they intro the online submission they wont send to all people already the form ...
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As long you have not start to use e-filling, the form will continue to be sent to you.
Once you are on e-filling, then no forms will be sent.
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13. Purchase of a personal computer -RM 3000.00 (MAX) 3 yrs claim 1 time..

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If I buy a computer this year for RM1700. Can I buy another next year for RM1300?
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If I buy a computer this year for RM1700. Can I buy another next year for RM1300?
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QUOTE(penangmee @ Mar 7 2009, 09:35 AM)
Of course you can buy. Intel/Microsoft welcomes your purchase. thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif  But you will not be able to claim for income tax deduction, cool2.gif
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Must be Intel or Microsoft? AMD and Nividia also can mah. biggrin.gif

Seriously, only once in 3 years, be it you bought at 100 or 3,000, one only can claim the relief once in 3 years time.
So if you bought 100, you just can claim 100 relief. Only after 3 years, you can only claim another one.
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hello ppl. bumped into this useful thread when i was trying to find ways i can save money tongue.gif
anyways hope u guys can help me since i just started working and have zero knowledge about tax relieves

1. what's the difference between BE, B, M, P dan E forms? which one should i use?
2. how much is the tax i need to pay if my sallary is rm3.5k/month? is there any specific percentage? (based on attahun's spreadhseet, salary rm3.5k is charged 1% tax, correct?)
3. from what i understand, you can claim max rm3k for computer once every 3 years. lets say you bought your pc in 2008, can you put the relief in 2009 tax?
4. i started working on nov 08 and my hr already put me under pcb for nov 08 & dec 08. do i still entitled for the rm8k personal relief? if yes then i already have cukai terlebih bayar right? how do i claim the overpaid tax?

actually i have summore questions to ask. but dont quite remember. this is a very useful thread. thanks
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Feb 8 2009, 05:39 PM)
It depends.

Under single tier system, no.

Under old imputation system, still can claim back.

Now, there is mixture on both as those company still having lot of tax credit will comtinue to pay dividend under old system, while those company has used up the tax credit or already in new single tier system will declared dividend under the new system.

Any tax credit unused will be void after 2013, if not mistaken, they gave grace period of 5 years for company to clear up the tax credit.

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Cherroy, u r right on that.. any unused tax credit will be void after 31 December 2013.. for now, the co. can still choose to opt for single tier or not..
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overruled23,
2) gov will calculate for you how much you need to pay.. if your salary is above certain amount, then thy will send a letter/ form to you.. if they did not send, then you no need to pay.
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4. i started working on nov 08 and my hr already put me under pcb for nov 08 & dec 08. do i still entitled for the rm8k personal relief? if yes then i already have cukai terlebih bayar right? how do i claim the overpaid tax?
Once you done the e-filling and confirm that you are overpay your tax. IRB will send you a mail saying that they will refund you, then you will get cheaque later.

Last year i got the mail within 2 weeks after i done the e-filling, the cheaque was dilivered in the following week. Quite impressive efficiency.
I donethe e-filling in early April (due date is 30th April0, my frens who did the e-filling near the due data have to wait 2-3 months to get the refund. So, please do you e-filling earlier.
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QUOTE(overruled23 @ Mar 7 2009, 11:58 AM)
hello ppl. bumped into this useful thread when i was trying to find ways i can save money  tongue.gif
anyways hope u guys can help me since i just started working and have zero knowledge about tax relieves

1. what's the difference between BE, B, M, P dan E forms? which one should i use?
2. how much is the tax i need to pay if my sallary is rm3.5k/month? is there any specific percentage? (based on attahun's spreadhseet, salary rm3.5k is charged 1% tax, correct?)
3. from what i understand, you can claim max rm3k for computer once every 3 years. lets say you bought your pc in 2008, can you put the relief in 2009 tax?
4. i started working on nov 08 and my hr already put me under pcb for nov 08 & dec 08. do i still entitled for the rm8k personal relief? if yes then i already have cukai terlebih bayar right? how do i claim the overpaid tax?

actually i have summore questions to ask. but dont quite remember. this is a very useful thread. thanks
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1. BE is for tax residents without business income. B is for tax residents WITH business income. M is for non-residents with income in malaysia. P is for partnerships. E is for employers. For your case, I think BE or B is relevant to you.

2. To roughly calculate your tax:
3,500 x 12 = 42,000.
Less personal relief 8,000 and EPF contribution (11%) 4,620 = 29,380 chargeable income
Tax on first 20,000 = 475
Tax on next 9,380 @ 7% = 656.60
Total = 1131.60
Less rebate 350 = 781.60

So, you have to pay around 781.60 of tax for that whole year. Calculation might be a little off cos I don't know your exact EPF contribution, and that is excluding any other reliefs that can be claimed.

3. Relief claim is based on receipt date. That means if you bought a computer in 2008, you can claim the computer when filing BE2008. You cannot claim it when filing BE2009 cos your receipt date is 2008.

4. Yes, personal relief 8,000 is automatic. And to claim overpaid tax, just make sure you submit your Borang BE via e-filing and wait for the tax refund cheque. It's even faster if you keyed in your bank account number when doing the e-filing.
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going to fill me BE forms soon, anyone knows if the RM625 I got from the governement last year after I renewed my road tas is taxable?
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last year, before june 2008, i was working for company D, and after that, i began working in company I as soon as i quit from Company D.

I understand that i'll receive the EB/ECBP from Company I. what about the tax that i need to pay when i was working in Company D?

I'm a little noob in taxation, hope someone please help me in the questions. Thanks.
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Hi guys,

a) I'm a freelancer working from home so can I claim electricity, Streamyx, phone, etc. bills as part of business expenses?

b) I need to travel to meet/service clients every month. Can I claim airfare and hotel accomodation as expenses? Should both of them go under M20?

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QUOTE(toto4d @ Mar 7 2009, 03:27 PM)
Once you done the e-filling and confirm that you are overpay your tax. IRB will send you a mail saying that they will refund you, then you will get cheaque later.

Last year i got the mail within 2 weeks after i done the e-filling, the cheaque was dilivered in the following week. Quite impressive efficiency.
I donethe e-filling in early April (due date is 30th April0, my frens who did the e-filling near the due data have to wait 2-3 months to get the refund. So, please do you e-filling earlier.
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Thanks toto4d for your info,

So LHDN will automatically send us the cheque after we filling the forms online? Or we have to contact them and ask them to send? Still new in filling the form....

i have some questions want to ask here, if i m using e-filling, how do i get the receipt for my income tax? Can we print it out after filling all the things? Or LHDN will post the receipt to us by mail?

Need this income tax receipt for applying loan.

thanks for the help. smile.gif

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QUOTE(aeronlim @ Mar 9 2009, 03:05 PM)
Thanks toto4d for your info,

So LHDN will automatically send us the cheque after we filling the forms online? Or we have to contact them and ask them to send? Still new in filling the form....

i have some questions want to ask here, if i m using e-filling, how do i get the receipt for my income tax? Can we print it out after filling all the things? Or LHDN will post the receipt to us by mail?

Need this income tax receipt for applying loan.

thanks for the help.  smile.gif
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Hi Aeronlim,
For my last year case, i do not contact them to get them send the refund. However, if you do not received anything in 2-3 months, then you should contact them to chase for it. Actually i oso very new in the income tax matter, i have filled e-filling for 2 years, last year is the 1st time i get refund.

Once you done the e-filling, you will be able to print out the receipt and save the PDF copy from the website. LHDN won't post mail to you unless they want to audit you or refund you or etc. Hehe, others may correct me if i am wrong. biggrin.gif



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QUOTE(wirelessdude @ Mar 8 2009, 07:10 PM)
Hi guys,

a) I'm a freelancer working from home so can I claim electricity, Streamyx, phone, etc. bills as part of business expenses?

b) I need to travel to meet/service clients every month. Can I claim airfare and hotel accomodation as expenses? Should both of them go under M20?

Thanks.
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a) Yes. However, since your home is also your office, you have to apportion such utilities expenses to "personal usage" and "business usage". To do this, perhaps you may want to seek help from Tax Agents. Personal usage are not tax deductible.

b) Yes. If you can list out which airfare/accomodation is related to which sales/client.

Remember, the rule of IRB is really simple. If the expenses is wholly and exclusively for generation of income, that expenses is deductible. So that means that if your bought air ticket to your to-be-client office, BUT you somehow fail to secure a contract from them, that airfare is not tax deductible.

If you need more help, I suppose you should approach a tax agent to assist you. I believe spending the money to the professionals is worth it, especially this kinda tax stuff. nod.gif


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QUOTE(aeronlim @ Mar 9 2009, 03:05 PM)
Thanks toto4d for your info,

So LHDN will automatically send us the cheque after we filling the forms online? Or we have to contact them and ask them to send? Still new in filling the form....

i have some questions want to ask here, if i m using e-filling, how do i get the receipt for my income tax? Can we print it out after filling all the things? Or LHDN will post the receipt to us by mail?

Need this income tax receipt for applying loan.

thanks for the help.  smile.gif
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LHDN will send cheque to you quite fast if your tax record is clean. e-filing makes refunds even faster. If you keyed in your account number to the e-filing system, the refund will directly credited to your bank account.

Receipt for paying your tax and submitting your tax form is 2 different thing. After submitting your e-filing tax form, there should be a confirmation on your Jumlah Cukai Kena Bayar thing. That confirmation should be printed and kept for your own record. Print the e-BE as well, if you want, for your own record. As for tax payment, if you're using maybank2u, make sure you print the receipt. if you're using the e-bayaran thing, make sure you print the receipt after payment. I think banks need both income tax form submission confirmation AND the receipt for paying tax.

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QUOTE(GeminiGeek @ Mar 9 2009, 05:18 PM)
a) Yes. However, since your home is also your office, you have to apportion such utilities expenses to "personal usage" and "business usage". To do this, perhaps you may want to seek help from Tax Agents. Personal usage are not tax deductible.

b) Yes. If you can list out which airfare/accomodation is related to which sales/client.

Remember, the rule of IRB is really simple. If the expenses is wholly and exclusively for generation of income, that expenses is deductible. So that means that if your bought air ticket to your to-be-client office, BUT you somehow fail to secure a contract from them, that airfare is not tax deductible.

If you need more help, I suppose you should approach a tax agent to assist you. I believe spending the money to the professionals is worth it, especially this kinda tax stuff.  nod.gif
What is wholly and exclusively?

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@toto4d & Geminigeek

thanks for the info given, i m making the e-filling just now and print out the receipt. Yes, after filling, then we can keep the receipt and the form in PDF, just now confirm,

Yup, there is a place that ask us to fill in our Bank Name and Account no. Should be the one that they used to direct debit to our account

thanks for the help guys smile.gif.

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What is wholly and exclusively?
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It just mean those expenses are essential to be spent to carry out the business or task that earn you the income.
This is to prevent people put personal expenses into it which doesn't relate to the business.

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I found out that some of my receipt is very blur already. (eg book receipt). Can i know if next time they want to audit, how to show them the blur receipt?
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QUOTE(truth_seeker_09 @ Mar 11 2009, 08:32 AM)
I found out that some of my receipt is very blur already. (eg book receipt). Can i know if next time they want to audit, how to show them the blur receipt?
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During a tax seminar in my company (2008), same question was raised to the speaker, who was an officer from LHDN.
The answer is yes, blur receipt for books is acceptable.
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I cannot see the amount and all the related info ... some even become white paper already... do you that still valid?

QUOTE(toto4d @ Mar 11 2009, 09:23 AM)
During a tax seminar in my company (2008), same question was raised to the speaker, who was an officer from LHDN.
The answer is yes, blur receipt for books is acceptable.
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if in that case then photocopy 1 set b4 it become blur
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got any software to calculate tax ..those excel wan
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download attahun's income tax calculator. or you can login your e-filing account to calculate ur tax.
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I cannot see the amount and all the related info ... some even become white paper already... do you that still valid?
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Hehe, the tax officer said for this kind of amount, they won't chase u till so details, as long as u got something to show, then ok lo. biggrin.gif

Hmm... last year i have books receipt worth 3k ++, dunno whether got value if i sell it for ppl who need it for tax rebate? tongue.gif
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like this ah?? interesting.. does it means i can just keep any carbon thermo type receipt to write as my book receipt lo.. hahaha..

QUOTE(toto4d @ Mar 11 2009, 05:50 PM)
Hehe, the tax officer said for this kind of amount, they won't chase u till so details, as long as u got something to show, then ok lo.  biggrin.gif

Hmm... last year i have books receipt worth 3k ++, dunno whether got value if i sell it for ppl who need it for tax rebate?  tongue.gif
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anybody know tm streamyx can be deducted from our personal tax? pls advise
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QUOTE(princess_autumn87 @ Mar 12 2009, 08:09 PM)
anybody know tm streamyx can be deducted from our personal tax? pls advise
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no, cannot. but if company give u streamyx allowance, you do not need to declare that because its under company allowance exemption..

am i right? somebody care to clarify my statement? tongue.gif


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download attahun's income tax calculator. or you can login your e-filing account to calculate ur tax.
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anybody know tm streamyx can be deducted from our personal tax? pls advise
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Refer post #109
Benefits(some but not all) provided by employer are tax exempted for 2008-2010

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QUOTE(roy918 @ Mar 12 2009, 08:56 PM)
Refer post #109
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QUOTE(lucifah @ Nov 22 2006, 07:06 PM)
the hire & purchase agreement is tax-deductible (since you pay the setem cukai / hasil there already)
that's only RM500.00 and i've maxed that out with newspapers & mag subscriptions
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may i know under which session and portion of hp can be deductible? appreciate if u could clarify my doubts drool.gif
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If all allowance we get is taxable, especially if it is in our EA form, are we allowed to deduct our expenses. For instance, if we get a phone allowance and it is in the EA form, can we deduct our phone bills for official calls?
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QUOTE(gilabola @ Mar 14 2009, 07:59 AM)
If all allowance we get is taxable, especially if it is in our EA form, are we allowed to deduct our expenses.  For instance, if we get a phone allowance and it is in the EA form, can we deduct our phone bills for official calls?
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Only when they got stated those allowance is deductable, otherwise, nope.
Can't simply deduct it out.

Just like recent announcement of tranportation allowance is deductable then it is deductable provided those allowance is essential to carry out your task, otherwise, if not, just for personal usage instead of needed to carry out the your job task, it is still non-deductable.
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may i know under which session and portion of hp can be deductible? appreciate if u could clarify my doubts  drool.gif
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check out "nota penerangan BE2008" from LHDN - Borang

It is stated that handphone, pda, pager, phone bills given by employer to the employee is not taxable. however this does not apply to the owner/partner of the company.

Another good way to reduce the tax is to convert some allowance to parking allowance, no limit. another would be petrol cards or allowance, but with certain limit.

Check it out and you can find other ways to minimize tax.
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What is the latest tax relief? Do anyone know
i saw the exemption list is stated in the 1st page of this thread by mxxuang,
it was in 2006, is there any lately?
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QUOTE(Mr. Philip @ Mar 19 2009, 01:45 AM)
just a quick question guys...

the Pin is only required for first time user right?

I've submitted my BE form via e-filing last year. I am able to login straight into "e-forms login" now. Shall I just proceed with my submission? Or there's something else I need to do?
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single tier dividend has benefited those property co. & ppl with high income tax rate..


hmm one alternative rather than allowance . got for reimbursement (not taxable)e


Added on March 19, 2009, 8:31 amanyone further ur education ? ..if is so ..u are eligible for another 5000 smile.gif

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about the sports equipment deduction. Can i know what can equipment does it refer? If i buy sport shoes, badminton racket/shuttle. Does this consider?
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about the sports equipment deduction. Can i know what can equipment does it refer? If i buy sport shoes, badminton racket/shuttle. Does this consider?
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I think that simply means, anything you wear can't be claim. Anything you used can be claim.
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What  is the latest tax relief? Do anyone know
i saw the exemption list  is stated in the 1st page of this thread by mxxuang,
it was in 2006, is there any lately?
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2008/2009 Malaysian Tax Relief

Section 46
a) Personal relief : RM8000
b) (i) Medical expense for parents : RM5000 (max)
(ii) Medical expense for taxpayer(you), spouse and children in respect of serious diseases (including expense on a complete medical examination RM500) : RM5000 (max)*
c) Basic supporting equipment(i.e. wheelchairs, crutches for disabled taxpayers, spouse or child) : RM 5000
d) Disabled tax payer(Hopefully you don't make yourself one) : RM6000
e) Fees for education in law, accounting, technological, vocational or industrial fields scientific and ICT : RM5000(max)
f) Purchase of books, journals, magazines : RM1000 (max)
g) Purchase of sports equipment : 300 (max)
h) Relief for purchase of personal computer (once every 3 years) : RM3000 (max)

Section 47
a) Spouse relief : RM3000
b) Disabled individual - additional relief for self : RM6000
c) Alimony payment(only males can claim) : RM 3000
d) Disabled person - additional spouse relief : RM 3500

Section 48
This section covers reliefs related to your child/children

a) Normal relief (below 18 years of age): RM1000 per child
b) Per physically / mentally disabled child : RM5000
c) With effect from year of assessment 2006 and thereafter, per child (over 18 years of age) :
1) For child studying in overseas (degree level and above) : RM4000
2) For child studying in local institution (Diploma level and above) : RM4000
d) Disabled child satisfying criteria (c ) above : RM9000

Section 49
a) EPF & Life insurance premium : RM6000 (max)
b) Medical and education premium : RM 3000 (max)
c) Premium on annuity purchased under EPF annuity scheme : RM1000 (max)

Section 6A
Rebate for resident individuals. If resident individual's chargeable income is less than RM35000,
rebate granted is deducted from tax charged and any excess is not refundable.
Amount of rebate
- where husband and wife are jointly assessed:
Individual : RM400
Wife/husband : RM400
- where husband and wife are separately assessed:
Amount available to each, as an individual : RM400

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hi all,

i would like to know if my company given me petrol card for work and additional of RM 600/mth for car allowance, is this RM 600/mth taxable?
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1) Petrol card/petrol/travel allowances between home and work place is exempted up to RM2400 p.a.
2) If for official duties is exempted up to RM6000 p.a
3) Parking fees/allowances : fully exempted

refer 3 case above & u'll know~
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is there an age requirement to pay tax? just curious
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baby chai,

i dun understand la..

coz that rm 600/mth actually is considered as part of our salary also...

so can i consider it as official use whereby i can claim till rm 6000/yr and claim the rest of rm1200/yr under travel allowance between home and office???

coz parking is reimbursable and petrol, i just use company's petrol card.

thanks.

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QUOTE(spiderwick @ Mar 21 2009, 09:22 PM)
baby chai,

i dun understand la..

coz that rm 600/mth actually is considered as part of our salary also...

so can i consider it as official use whereby i can claim till rm 6000/yr and claim the rest of rm1200/yr under travel allowance between home and office???

coz parking is reimbursable and petrol, i just use company's petrol card.

thanks.
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can but u have to make arrangement between u & yr employer and yr employer agreed with it. tell yr boss that u want to treat rm500 per mth is for official duties and rm100 per mth is for allowances between home & work.

Normally big company got give travel allowances between home & office. small company seldom one.

Since yr parking is reimburseable, so u r not taxed on the amount received. but make sure u keep ALL the parking receipts.


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is there an age requirement to pay tax? just curious
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hmmm....i think when u reached school leaving age and yr salary is taxable then u'll require to pay tax liao. but not 100% sure about this.

this 1 got any law to refer or not ah?

any1 can help ah tongue.gif

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Last year they paid me back RM124 but it seem like I had to pay them RM400+ back this year. Life sucks...

I should have hold back my computer claims... it would cost me the extra return in 2007 but I would just enough avoid paying anything. Damn!!!


Added on March 23, 2009, 9:13 pmBTW,

Who said signing a hire&purchase can reduce income tax? Can show me?

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QUOTE(babychai @ Mar 19 2009, 10:25 PM)
2008/2009 Malaysian Tax Relief
Section 6A
Rebate for resident individuals. If resident individual's chargeable income is less than RM35000,
rebate granted is deducted from tax charged and any excess is not refundable.
Amount of rebate
- where husband and wife are jointly assessed:
  Individual : RM400
  Wife/husband : RM400
- where husband and wife are separately assessed:
  Amount available to each, as an individual : RM400
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does this means if my chargeable income is RM36000, i wont get the RM400?
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QUOTE(babychai @ Mar 20 2009, 01:25 AM)

a) Spouse relief : RM3000
This does not appear on the e-Borang, but there is a space for individual and dependent relatives that is filled in by default for RM8,000.00. Should I just increase this to RM11,000.00 to account for my wife if doing a joint assessment?
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QUOTE(scoop7 @ Mar 25 2009, 10:59 AM)
does this means if my chargeable income is RM36000, i wont get the RM400?
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Added on March 25, 2009, 5:48 pm
QUOTE(wankongyew @ Mar 25 2009, 12:34 PM)
This does not appear on the e-Borang, but there is a space for individual and dependent relatives that is filled in by default for RM8,000.00. Should I just increase this to RM11,000.00 to account for my wife if doing a joint assessment?
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no you should not increase it. maintain it at RM8,000. then there is another clause which gives relieve of RM3000 for wife - 'D9'

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First of all, I want to thank you all for sharing such useful information. It has been most educational and helpful. smile.gif

However, I'm still pretty lost on the part that says:
Employers’ own services provided free or at a discount provided such benefits are not transferable (No Limit)

What does it mean? If I buy goods from my company for personal use... it's deductable? All I need is the invoice?

Thank you for your time.



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QUOTE(truth_seeker_09 @ Mar 19 2009, 02:08 PM)
about the sports equipment deduction. Can i know what can equipment does it refer? If i buy sport shoes, badminton racket/shuttle. Does this consider?
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Refer post #87 here .

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Is shift allowance same as meal allowance?

I work on shift and there is allowance of RM20/day.
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QUOTE(limsy @ Mar 27 2009, 02:24 PM)
First of all, I want to thank you all for sharing such useful information. It has been most educational and helpful.  smile.gif

However, I'm still pretty lost on the part that says:
Employers’ own services provided free or at a discount provided such benefits are not transferable (No Limit)

What does it mean?  If I buy goods from my company for personal use... it's deductable?  All I need is the invoice? 

Thank you for your time.
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(a) Employers’ own services provided full or at discount : fully exempted (use all the services provided and u still not taxable)

(b) Employers’ goods provided free or at a discount : up to RM1000 is tax exempted (goods exceeded RM1k only taxable)

keep all the invoices/bills as supporting documents~




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QUOTE(stupidbump @ Mar 27 2009, 07:15 PM)
Is shift allowance same as meal allowance?

I work on shift and there is allowance of RM20/day.
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by right, if it states "shift allowance" inside payslip, u must declare that allowance as taxable as shift allowance is not exempted. You should ask your HR to change it to "shift/meal allowance" to have it exempted. Anyone can correct me if i'm wrong.

My HR changed our "outstation allowance" to "outstation reimbursements" just so that it doesn't count as income. tongue.gif
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Please note that rebate is RM350 for 2008 and RM400 is only effective for 2009 income.
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Very informative thread!

Barger 1st time paying 5 digits tax to LHDN. Really feel the pain. Basically I've maxed out whatever claims deem legal. No family medical claims because all company covers & parents are still very healthy.
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patricktoh,

laugh.gif Now you know earning 10k/mth gross, but actually 7k+ net only doh.gif (after PCB and EPF)
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QUOTE(patricktoh @ Mar 31 2009, 06:55 PM)
Very informative thread!

Barger 1st time paying 5 digits tax to LHDN. Really feel the pain. Basically I've maxed out whatever claims deem legal. No family medical claims because all company covers & parents are still very healthy.
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Is Optical benefit from company taxable as income ?
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How does donation to charity work in Msia? If I donate 1K, does it mean I don't have to pay 1K worth of taxes? If not, how much is excluded per K of donation?
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How does donation to charity work in Msia? If I donate 1K,  does it mean I don't have to pay 1K worth of taxes? If not, how much is excluded per K of donation?
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Donation to charity (only those with the status for tax exemption) is only deductable on taxable income.

e.g. ur tax bracket is 24%, you donate RM 1000 to Mercy Msia.
Ur total deduction on tax = 1000 * 24% = RM 240.

Anyway, good to donate if you can help.
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Unhealthy scene in M'sia is that we have about 10 millions empoyees but only 1.1 million (11%) of them "qualified" to pay income tax!!!

My suggestion is reduce tax bracket by 5% then introduce 5% goods sales tax (GST). So that less people including foreign workers could evade tax.
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QUOTE(snowcrash @ Apr 1 2009, 10:34 PM)
How does donation to charity work in Msia? If I donate 1K,  does it mean I don't have to pay 1K worth of taxes? If not, how much is excluded per K of donation?
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I think maximum donation allow to deduct (not rebate) is RM6k/year only.


Added on April 2, 2009, 12:26 pm
QUOTE(patricktoh @ Apr 2 2009, 06:40 AM)
Unhealthy scene in M'sia is that we have about 10 millions empoyees but only 1.1 million (11%) of them "qualified" to pay income tax!!!

My suggestion is reduce tax bracket by 5% then introduce 5% goods sales tax (GST). So that less people including foreign workers could evade tax.
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GST is good. It is fair to everyone. You spend/buy, you pay. I thought it was supposed to implement in MY in 2008 ??


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QUOTE(cute_boboi @ Apr 2 2009, 12:25 PM)
GST is good. It is fair to everyone. You spend/buy, you pay. I thought it was supposed to implement in MY in 2008 ??
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GST is good if you look at this side.

But if GST is implemented, I can guarantee inflation will be skyrocketing, which in the end of the day, it is the poor one suffer the most.

At current structure, lower income group doesn't pay the tax and rich one pay more. But if GST is implemented and reduce the personal income tax, it becomes poor and rich one also need to pay tax (even though only you buy more then pay more, but poor one origin doesn't need to pay, has to pay now).

The GST implementation has been suspended indefinitely until gov decide later, primary reason, it will cause a shock inflation effect as mentioned.


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QUOTE(wankongyew @ Mar 25 2009, 12:34 PM)
This does not appear on the e-Borang, but there is a space for individual and dependent relatives that is filled in by default for RM8,000.00. Should I just increase this to RM11,000.00 to account for my wife if doing a joint assessment?
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It only appears when you select Status: "Kahwin"
In "Tuntutan Pelepasan" page, you will see the field.

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Apr 2 2009, 01:00 PM)
GST is good if you look at this side.

But if GST is implemented, I can guarantee inflation will be skyrocketing, which in the end of the day, it is the poor one suffer the most.

At current structure, lower income group doesn't pay the tax and rich one pay more. But if GST is implemented and reduce the personal income tax, it becomes poor and rich one also need to pay tax (even though only you buy more then pay more, but poor one origin doesn't need to pay, has to pay now).

The GST implementation has been suspended indefinitely until gov decide later, primary reason, it will cause a shock inflation effect as mentioned.
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QUOTE(cute_boboi @ Apr 2 2009, 03:09 PM)
Poor ? I see those low cost house/flat... mostly has astro and drive non-local Proton/Perodua cars  hmm.gif
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Well i look at it due to the 'easiness' to get a loan (and 'greediness' of bankers), even 'magic' payslips can get you big valued loans for non-local proton cars..it doesn't proof anything..

the poor are still poor.. blush.gif
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Do some research and see which are the best methods for saving your tax. Speak to your C.A as well, you'll get some ideas.
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QUOTE(toto4d @ Mar 11 2009, 05:50 PM)
Hehe, the tax officer said for this kind of amount, they won't chase u till so details, as long as u got something to show, then ok lo.  biggrin.gif

Hmm... last year i have books receipt worth 3k ++, dunno whether got value if i sell it for ppl who need it for tax rebate?  tongue.gif
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me! me! i need those man... i bought too many comics instead of technical journals. next time, gotta make a deal with the shopkeeper to change the desctiption in the receipt

anyhow, glad to see this thread still alive, esp in april, every year... hehehe
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QUOTE(lucifah @ Apr 3 2009, 10:09 PM)
me! me! i need those man... i bought too many comics instead of technical journals. next time, gotta make a deal with the shopkeeper to change the desctiption in the receipt

anyhow, glad to see this thread still alive, esp in april, every year... hehehe
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lolz! i already given it to my frens. Think this year target more books receipts and can sell it lo. biggrin.gif
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Some questions

- Can I claim those mileage claim [petrol and toll] for work related trainings? No petrol card for this purpose
- Let's say I join this company in February 2008, how do I calculate the salary for year 2008?
Main question will be, how to identify the chargeable income? Based on year 2008 pay slip [after deduct overall EPF % and8k personal relief?]
- Usage of EA form?
- RM350 rebate can be deducted if chargeable income is <RM35k starting from year 2008?
- If company provide me cellphone, phone bill and streamyx, can I deduct the amount from the chargeable income? If yes, for those bills are only 11 months right since I joined in Feb 2008?
- Company insurance policy can also be claimed right?
- I bought a DIY pc [with the full PC specs listed in the receipt am I eligible to claim, not sure those officers know this is a full set PC or not unsure.gif ]

Ps: A first timer submitting the first BE blush.gif

Thanks

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Hi, Dear all,

I wonder if anyone can assist me on the following :-
I deposited RM 3,000 and opened SPPN account for my children in 2007 which I claimed for tax exemption in 2007 tax return already. Can I still claim for the tax exemption for year 2008 if I did not deposit anymore money in 2008.
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QUOTE(ykltpm @ Apr 6 2009, 09:49 AM)
Hi, Dear all,

I wonder if anyone can assist me on the following :-
I deposited RM 3,000 and opened SPPN account for my children in 2007 which I claimed for tax exemption in 2007 tax return already. Can I still claim for the tax exemption for year 2008 if I did not deposit anymore money in 2008.
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answers looks like an obvious NO to me
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GST is good if you look at this side.

But if GST is implemented, I can guarantee inflation will be skyrocketing, which in the end of the day, it is the poor one suffer the most.

At current structure, lower income group doesn't pay the tax and rich one pay more. But if GST is implemented and reduce the personal income tax, it becomes poor and rich one also need to pay tax (even though only you buy more then pay more, but poor one origin doesn't need to pay, has to pay now).

The GST implementation has been suspended indefinitely until gov decide later, primary reason, it will cause a shock inflation effect as mentioned.
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GST is a type of 'Consumption Tax' whereas "Income Tax' is a tax on 'Income'.

The bad thing about income tax is that it does not encourage savings. As long as you make a certain amount of income, you have to pay a certain amount of tax, regardless of whether you spend them or not.

Consumption Tax, on the other hand, encourages savings in a way that you only pay the tax when you spend. If you do not spend, then you are not taxed. We already have some consumption tax in Malaysia, eg. hotels, high-end restaurants, parking, gambling, etc. You pay mainly 5% tax when you use these services. If you don't use, then you don't pay. It's fair, right ?

The good thing about consumption tax is based on the fact that the rich usually spend more, then they are taxed more, compared to the poor.

In countries that has GST, the income tax rate will have to be low to balance it out. You cannot have a high tax on income and then tax again when people spend, that will be bad for the people.
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QUOTE(gtchye @ Apr 6 2009, 12:06 PM)
GST is a type of 'Consumption Tax' whereas "Income Tax' is a tax on 'Income'.

The bad thing about income tax is that it does not encourage savings. As long as you make a certain amount of income, you have to pay a certain amount of tax, regardless of whether you spend them or not.

Consumption Tax, on the other hand, encourages savings in a way that you only pay the tax when you spend. If you do not spend, then you are not taxed. We already have some consumption tax in Malaysia, eg. hotels, high-end restaurants, parking, gambling, etc. You pay mainly 5% tax when you use these services. If you don't use, then you don't pay. It's fair, right ?

The good thing about consumption tax is based on the fact that the rich usually spend more, then they are taxed more, compared to the poor.

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No doubt, it is a fair system.

But for some folks that earn below 30K - 40K or so under current system (which bulk of Malaysian are in), he/she is totally in disadvatange scenario in the GST structure. They lose out a lot if GST when it is set up.

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QUOTE(mustang @ Apr 4 2009, 03:30 PM)
Some questions

- Can I claim those mileage claim [petrol and toll] for work related trainings? No petrol card for this purpose
- Let's say I join this company in February 2008, how do I calculate the salary for year 2008?
  Main question will be, how to identify the chargeable income? Based on year 2008 pay slip [after deduct overall EPF % and8k personal relief?]
- Usage of EA form?
- RM350 rebate can be deducted if chargeable income is <RM35k starting from year 2008?
- If company provide me cellphone, phone bill and streamyx, can I deduct the amount from the chargeable income? If yes, for those bills are only 11 months right since I joined in Feb 2008?
- Company insurance policy can also be claimed right?
- I bought a DIY pc [with the full PC specs listed in the receipt am I eligible to claim, not sure those officers know this is a full set PC or not  unsure.gif ]

Ps: A first timer submitting the first BE  blush.gif

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hmm, let me try..

1. By right, when you claim for mileage claim, you will have more money, therefore it should be under income, therefore chargeable.. LHDN however allows exemption for petrol card,petrol allowance and also travel allowance as of the moment. Therefore, if it is stated in your EA form/payslip as travel allowance, it is exempted, which means you do not have to declare it under 'taxable income'. If it is stated as "outstation allowance" or "mileage claims", i would suggest changing it to "mileage reimbursements" or "travel allowance" which does not subject it to taxable income. Be sure to check where is it stated in you EA Form - under taxable or non-taxable income.

2. The salary should be = monthly salary x 11 months + any overtime + allowance.

3. EA Form serves as a summary statement for your income. Your company should declare what is the income they had paid you and normally they would identify whether the income should fall into taxable or not. EA Form is the best reference to fill in your tax / e-filing.

4. For year 2008, rebate for taxable income below RM35K is rm350, starting next year it may be increased to rm400.

5. Yes, however the bills should be under company name and not your own name.

6. Yes can be claimed for the portion where you paid. be sure to identify if it is medical insurance or life as they are exempted under different sub-clause.

7. Hehe this is subjective. I would think this is still considered a PC therefore you should just claim. Later it will be a matter of explaining to the officer should you get audited. but be sure that the list does make up a unit PC.

I hope the above is correct. Anyone can feel free to correct me if anything wrong. tongue.gif biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Apr 6 2009, 02:31 PM)
No doubt, it is a fair system.

But for some folks that earn below 30K - 40K or so under current system (which bulk of Malaysian are in), he/she is totally in disadvatange scenario in the GST structure. They lose out a lot if GST when it is set up.
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Yes you are right. It also depends on how low the government will lower the income tax rates. They need to find a good balance between Income Tax rate and the GST rate.
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QUOTE(ykltpm @ Apr 6 2009, 09:49 AM)
Hi, Dear all,

I wonder if anyone can assist me on the following :-
I deposited RM 3,000 and opened SPPN account for my children in 2007 which I claimed for tax exemption in 2007 tax return already. Can I still claim for the tax exemption for year 2008 if I did not deposit anymore money in 2008.
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It should be the amount of saving for that year minus any withdrawals of that year..so basically the answer is no, i guess.. tongue.gif
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if yr monthly salary exceed 2500 and above that u are required to start paying PCB which it will be deducted from yr salaries.

of course, it doesn't means that yr individual tax job is over. u still need to tax computation on yr own by filling up the details on the b or be form which is due end of this mth.

u will know the result of the net balance which is either tax payble or tax refund after filling up the form.

it's quite fun on filling up the form by yr self. if u have many source of incomes even involved complicated biz. then u better get someone familiar with the tax filing or tax agent to help u.
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I have a question on the tax deductibility of insurance premiums. I have a whole life insurance plan for which I pay a total premium of about $2,500 a year but I recently received a statement from my insurer that only about $791.00 can be claimed as a tax deductible expense. What's up with that?
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I fill up my e-filling and it seem like I still have to pay around RM200+

I wonder why cry.gif

Btw, do I really need to submit my income for 2006 and 2007 ? So far till now I not submit yet ....

Anyone did not submit for previous year ?
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I think I am being ignorance here ..been working for 4 years every year received EA form from company, started last october my payslip got PCB deduction. I have yet to register with LHDN. Basically i am total zero knowledge in this tax kind of things.

can somebody enlighten me on what should i do, i have read alot of info in this forum but still blur.

am i required to do filing at the end of this month?
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QUOTE(imax80 @ Apr 8 2009, 11:54 AM)
I think I am being ignorance here ..been working for 4 years every year received EA form from company, started last october my payslip got PCB deduction. I have yet to register with LHDN. Basically i am total zero knowledge in this tax kind of things.

can somebody enlighten me on what should i do, i have read alot of info in this forum but still blur.

am i required to do filing at the end of this month?
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If your payslip got PCB deduction, im sure your employer have register tax file number for you with LHDN. Ask from your employer if they receive your Borang BE. If not, go to the nearest LHDN office and ask for e-filing pin code, then register yourself and e-filing account. Submitting your tax using e-filing is very easy. nod.gif
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QUOTE(wankongyew @ Apr 8 2009, 09:53 AM)
I have a question on the tax deductibility of insurance premiums. I have a whole life insurance plan for which I pay a total premium of about $2,500 a year but I recently received a statement from my insurer that only about $791.00 can be claimed as a tax deductible expense. What's up with that?
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It is best that you check with your insurance agent. Your insurance may comprise life and other types of insurance. Only life, medical and educational insurances are entitled to relief.
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QUOTE(GeminiGeek @ Apr 8 2009, 12:01 PM)
If your payslip got PCB deduction, im sure your employer have register tax file number for you with LHDN. Ask from your employer if they receive your Borang BE. If not, go to the nearest LHDN office and ask for e-filing pin code, then register yourself and e-filing account. Submitting your tax using e-filing is very easy.  nod.gif
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i was told by my HR that PCB deduction is using IC number and they dont open any tax account. So basically you'll have to check with LHDN for your account number.
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QUOTE(attahun @ Apr 8 2009, 09:28 PM)
i was told by my HR that PCB deduction is using IC number and they dont open any tax account. So basically you'll have to check with LHDN for your account number.
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Oh is it? Cos based on what happened to my sis and bro, both of them one day just happen to receive their Borang BE when their employer starts to deduct PCB from their salary. And they didn't even register in the LHDN office, so I thought your employer are the one who registered a tax number for you and you will be getting your own Borang BE when you're salary got deducted PCB.

Well, I guess for those who didnt get their BE, but they got their salary deducted PCB, I think it's time for them to get their e-filing pin in the nearest LHDN office. 3 more weeks before the last day of tax filing. Better be quick rather than last minute, no? nod.gif
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QUOTE(gtchye @ Apr 8 2009, 01:58 PM)
It is best that you check with your insurance agent. Your insurance may comprise life and other types of insurance. Only life, medical and educational insurances are entitled to relief.
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yes. check with your insurance agent. by right, every year, around April (the time where everyone need to pay tax), your insurance company should send you insurance statement for tax relief. from there, you'll be able to check out the exact amount for tax exemption.

only life, medical and education policy are tax exempted (still you need to check it out, some life/medical are only entitled for 60% relief if you claim under medical and 100% if you claim under life policy). in short, just check out the form, it'll tell u everything.
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QUOTE(GeminiGeek @ Apr 8 2009, 11:03 PM)
Oh is it? Cos based on what happened to my sis and bro, both of them one day just happen to receive their Borang BE when their employer starts to deduct PCB from their salary. And they didn't even register in the LHDN office, so I thought your employer are the one who registered a tax number for you and you will be getting your own Borang BE when you're salary got deducted PCB.

Well, I guess for those who didnt get their BE, but they got their salary deducted PCB, I think it's time for them to get their e-filing pin in the nearest LHDN office. 3 more weeks before the last day of tax filing. Better be quick rather than last minute, no?  nod.gif
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yeah i guess the LHDN are the ones so eager to open up ur tax account tongue.gif

so have to check with LHDN for ur account number.
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Can I say all malaysia insurance company or product we bought is tax deductable?
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I earn direct online advertising income from advertisers in USA.
I also earn "pay per click" income from domain parking.
Do I need to declare this income in my Income Tax Returns?
I read somewhere that "income accruing from outside Malaysia and received in Malaysia" is exempted from tax.
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QUOTE(simplesmile @ Apr 11 2009, 08:23 AM)
I earn direct online advertising income from advertisers in USA.
I also earn "pay per click" income from domain parking.
Do I need to declare this income in my Income Tax Returns?
I read somewhere that "income accruing from outside Malaysia and received in Malaysia" is exempted from tax.
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There are 2 school of thoughts as far as taxability of such incomes is concerned. I am of the opinion that these income are not taxable. However, if you do a google on this subject, you will find that there are people who say that they are taxable.

My reasons are explained in my blog www.mytaxation.blogspot.com. Look under the posting "Is income from Google Adsense Taxable ?"

You are entitled to rely on whichever opinion you think is right.


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Can I say all malaysia insurance company or product we bought is tax deductable?
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Not all Malaysian insurance products are tax deductible.

The Income Tax Act provides that only insurance premiums paid on life insurance, medical and education insurance are tax deductible.

It does not even say that the insurance companies must be Malaysian companies. Therefore, even insurance premiums paid to foreign insurance companies are deductible, as long as they are for insurance policies mentioned above.

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Example ING Insurance, Where the company buy insurance for the staff.? tax deductible.???


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QUOTE(ykltpm @ Apr 6 2009, 09:49 AM)
Hi, Dear all,

I wonder if anyone can assist me on the following :-
I deposited RM 3,000 and opened SPPN account for my children in 2007 which I claimed for tax exemption in 2007 tax return already. Can I still claim for the tax exemption for year 2008 if I did not deposit anymore money in 2008.
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Answer is NO. You need to deposit in RM3,000 every year to enjoy the tax relief.
The statement for Income Tax relief is available at http://epay.ptptn.gov.my/saving/hasillogin.jsp
It would show whether you can deduct or not.
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If my statement state that:

1.Riders(Medical/Life)-How many percent i can deduct under medical insurance?

2.Living Assce(Medical/Life)-How many percent i can deduct under medical insurance?
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I've stop working 2 years ago. Do i still need to submit income tax?


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QUOTE(yiyi99 @ Apr 14 2009, 08:54 AM)
If my statement state that:

1.Riders(Medical/Life)-How many percent i can deduct under medical insurance?

2.Living Assce(Medical/Life)-How many percent i can deduct under medical insurance?
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if claim under life is 100%, if under medical is 60%
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QUOTE(happie @ Apr 14 2009, 10:35 AM)
I've stop working 2 years ago. Do i still need to submit income tax?
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did u still receive Form BE from the Inland Revenue Board?
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QUOTE(happie @ Apr 14 2009, 10:35 AM)
I've stop working 2 years ago. Do i still need to submit income tax?
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Do you have an income to survive ?
If you have an income, then it's taxable.
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QUOTE(one19944 @ Apr 12 2009, 10:31 PM)
Example ING Insurance, Where the company buy insurance for the staff.? tax deductible.???
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even when company buy the medical insurance, if you are deducted every month a portion to cover the premiums, you can mention that in your tax returns.. if you are not paying and only the company, then you cannot deduct that portion. The medical and life exemption is for individual basis.

Am not sure whether the company is exempted or not if taking medical insurance plans. not sure of corporate tax structure.. hmm.gif
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I came to know that we, as employee is entitled for the relief for petrol for the sum of RM6k. I was just wondering if we could use the receipts to double claim it, i.e. to use it for personal relief, and also for business account relief.

Would the inland revenue department trace the 2 receipts submitted in 2 different account as mentioned above.
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QUOTE(de.crystal @ Apr 14 2009, 06:46 PM)
I came to know that we, as employee is entitled for the relief for petrol for the sum of RM6k.  I was just wondering if we could use the receipts to double claim it, i.e. to use it for personal relief, and also for business account relief.

Would the inland revenue department trace the 2 receipts submitted in 2 different account as mentioned above.
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Thread tittle: Personal relief Income tax, legally, reduce income tax
if i am RBR, I sure submit IP/timestamp to MCMC then send to IRB to double check your income tax submisson this year. kidding man! where got so free one...
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I know if i say this sure will kena from all of u.

wondering if there is a summary of the personal relief page for our lazy's man reference instead of going pages to pages.
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QUOTE(de.crystal @ Apr 14 2009, 06:54 PM)
I know if i say this sure will kena from all of u.

wondering if there is a summary of the personal relief page for our lazy's man reference instead of going pages to pages.
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if you're looking for a page that says "personal relieves for the year 2009", don't have
but if you look at the guide online at LHDN's website, it actually contains quite detailed information for each category on what is included and what is not, structured

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Let's say dividend voucher states that it is for accounting year ending 2007 but payment date (i.e. dividend cheque issued) is on 31st March, 2008.

Question : am I to declare the dividend received for the year 2008 ? Or as previously undeclared income for 2007 ?

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QUOTE(de.crystal @ Apr 14 2009, 06:46 PM)
I came to know that we, as employee is entitled for the relief for petrol for the sum of RM6k.  I was just wondering if we could use the receipts to double claim it, i.e. to use it for personal relief, and also for business account relief.

Would the inland revenue department trace the 2 receipts submitted in 2 different account as mentioned above.
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I remember <RM6,000 no need to keep receipt.
Then you can use this receipt for the business account relief... whistling.gif
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I read all the post but i Need to ask about the new tax relief for Assessment 2008. Refering to..

http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=...7846&sec=nation
http://www.hasil.gov.my/cP/upload/Budget/attachment09.pdf

So when i was doing my e-filling for 2008, I didn't see any place for me to put this new tax relief figure like travel allowance, housing allowance. So how do I states those?

In my EA form, it states

Gaji Kasar (SALARY) : 20000
Allowance : 10000

So when I fill in the pendapatan in BE form, i put only 20000? Last year for 2007 when allowance is taxable, i put the combine total.

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QUOTE(exshige @ Apr 15 2009, 06:14 PM)
I read all the post but i Need to ask about the new tax relief for Assessment 2008. Refering to..

http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=...7846&sec=nation
http://www.hasil.gov.my/cP/upload/Budget/attachment09.pdf

So when i was doing my e-filling for 2008, I didn't see any place for me to put this new tax relief figure like travel allowance, housing allowance. So how do I states those?

In my EA form, it states

Gaji Kasar (SALARY) : 20000
Allowance : 10000

So when I fill in the pendapatan in BE form, i put only 20000? Last year for 2007 when allowance is taxable, i put the combine total.

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did you check all the pages? some of the main figures, you click on a button which takes you to a popup page, you do the breakdown there and the main figure gets calculated automatically.
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did you check all the pages? some of the main figures, you click on a button which takes you to a popup page, you do the breakdown there and the main figure gets calculated automatically.
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Hi,

This question was answered in http://taxsaya.com/smf/index.php?topic=206.0

If you are using the FREE TAXSAYA, then you just need to enter in the information that is in your EA form, and the system will do the rest for you you.

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Books & Magazine relief is counted based on actual payment you paid (nett after discounts and cash vouchers).

Eg.
Cost of book = RM50
10% Discount = RM5
Total Cost of Book = RM45
Payment method = RM40 + RM5 Cash Voucher (from bookstore)

Total relief can be claim is RM40, not RM45.

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I understand that we are entitled for the hp and petrol allowance rite? How does it work?


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Hi,

This question was answered in http://taxsaya.com/smf/index.php?topic=206.0

If you are using the FREE TAXSAYA, then you just need to enter in the information that is in your EA form, and the system will do the rest for you you.

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Mind explain abit how does it work?

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QUOTE(de.crystal @ Apr 15 2009, 10:13 PM)
I understand that we are entitled for the hp and petrol allowance rite?  How does it work?


Did your employer give you these benefit in year 2008 ?
If yes, these benefit is now tax exempted for YA2008. No need to put into the form.

ronnie
post Apr 15 2009, 10:25 PM

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FYI....Ketetapan Umum must be set to YES/YA to ensure you are not flagged for audit.

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