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post Nov 23 2006, 06:27 PM

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Before this year announced budget, it is a RM500 rebate in 5 years means that you only can claim once in every 5 years and one off straight away get Rm500 rebate for that year and can't claim after another 5 years. But this has changed next year, it become a RM3500 relief, not rebate for every 3 year.
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post Dec 12 2008, 03:01 PM

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QUOTE(mtsen @ Dec 12 2008, 02:52 PM)
I think its fair, job less means no pay tax. smile.gif
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I LOL this statement. Fair enough biggrin.gif sweat.gif
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post Dec 22 2008, 10:51 AM

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QUOTE(T_flash @ Dec 21 2008, 09:04 PM)
for the computer, 3000rm, does the tax reduction in malaysia works like this : When doing the tax, provide the receipt of the PC, and for whatever amount upto 3k, they will take 3k off the tax amount?? or is there some kind of calculation needed (depreciation rate) need to be done. And can it be claimed all at once, or gradually for 3 years.

Not familiar how tax return works in this country.
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No, 3K is one off. If you bought 2.5K, then 2.5K tax relief only. If bought 5K, max is 3K.

They work as tax relief means that the particular year, your taxable amount can be deducted for that amount before starting to compute for the tax part.

Then next year and another year, you will not entitle for the computer tax relief again even you bought another computer or previous not fully utilised the 3K.
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post Dec 27 2008, 10:46 AM

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QUOTE(attahun @ Dec 26 2008, 10:33 PM)
hehe i'd like to know bout this one too..but since it mentions "equipment" i'd guess the answer is no..

does anybody know about the computer thingy, do u need to buy 1 SET computer for the relief or buying parts considered eligible for the relief??? having asked that i think i know the answer already...damn.
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Applicable to 1 set only, parts are not eligible.
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post Dec 29 2008, 10:23 AM

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QUOTE(J'Daniel @ Dec 29 2008, 09:47 AM)
Thanks again bro  notworthy.gif

Appreciate your explanation, it help me a lot ! I understand much better now

I am tax payer but sometimes I might not taxable for 1~2 months ( if I don't do overtime). If let say my total tax per year is ONLY RM1000, I still can claim up to RM8000 provided got receipt under personal relief ?

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I think you don't get the message in the earlier post.

RM8000 personal relief is automatic.

Just like you earn 30K last year then straight away you deduct out the RM8,000, mean your taxable income is 22K, so any tax is calculated based on (xxK annual income - Rm8,000)

22K x y% = tax you need to pay.
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post Jan 8 2009, 04:12 PM

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QUOTE(attahun @ Jan 8 2009, 03:41 PM)
but then, i think they do care whether u pay or not. if you don't pay, then you cannot claim the tax exemption. So i think its still receipt.  tongue.gif
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But a receipt can't prove you are buying computer from them or just buying some other things from them.

Receipt is a document the show you have paid them, it doesn't show the items you purchased, but invoice does.

For computer relief part, the criteria is you are buying a set of computer, buy a processor or GC or monitor alone, according to its rules, it cannot be claimed on tax relief part.
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post Jan 16 2009, 08:23 PM

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QUOTE(Mr. Philip @ Jan 16 2009, 08:21 PM)
I'm buying a laptop and a desktop at one go, obviosly it's gonna cost more than 3k..

can I submit the maximum amount?

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If not mistaken, the computer tax relied only eligible for one full set of computer.
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post Jan 31 2009, 09:57 AM

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QUOTE(arsenal @ Jan 31 2009, 12:32 AM)
If i have 3 houses which yield rent do i need to put in income tax thing??
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Yes, whatever that is not classified as tax-exempted income, all income are deemed taxable which you need to declare.


Added on January 31, 2009, 9:59 am
QUOTE(J'Daniel @ Jan 30 2009, 07:48 PM)
Seem like very serious case sweat.gif

But I see like majority of my colleague doesn't even bother about income tax thingy, in MNC somemore

I went to LHDN yesterday ... BE 2006 and 2007 have to submit manual.
I ask for the pin, they say April only got ... each pin valid for a year onli

normally if manual submit, just give the BE will do ? Do i need to wait for their feedback or whatever thing ? unsure.gif
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Now all are under self-asssessment.

You don't wait their feedback to submit, it is your responsible to do so.

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post Jan 31 2009, 04:42 PM

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QUOTE(small lady @ Jan 30 2009, 07:01 PM)
I got an assignment to do.
The topic is on personal relief,whether it is enough or not..
I am going to conduct a survey on that topic
but then I got no idea to ask in my questionnaire...
anyone could help me...
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If you intend to ask whether the current personal relief (8K) is enough or not, I don't think you need to do a survey. I can assure you, the answer will be 99.9% not enough, haha. biggrin.gif
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post Feb 8 2009, 02:57 PM

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QUOTE(attahun @ Feb 8 2009, 11:58 AM)
if you've maximized the other reliefs (with receipts/proofs, i hope), guess there's not much room for reducing the tax i guess.

You still can donate  to charity though...thats a way to reduce the tax bracket by lowering the taxable income.

another method would be to ask your company to give allowance rather than high salary, allowance such as phone allowance, internet allowance and others are not taxable if not mistaken... but this you have to arrange with company.
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Nope, it is all taxable. Everything come into your pocket is taxable unless stated otherwise, by right, if one collected RM1,000 at the roadside, it is still considered taxable under the law as it is your income. tongue.gif

Even if your company buy you a phone or give the company to drive around or your personal usage instead give you higher salary, it is still taxable under benefit in kind.

Once one has the full tax relief, then pay the tax lor. Actually one should be glad one is paying more tax, as it just means you are making more money.


Added on February 8, 2009, 2:59 pm
QUOTE(wufei @ Feb 8 2009, 02:46 PM)
1. marry to the royal family
2. become ADUN , or menteri

then you no need to pay tax
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QUOTE(wufei @ Feb 8 2009, 01:03 PM)
Kekekeke.........Income tax submission againnnnnnnnn
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All including Adun, menteri or PM also need to pay tax.

Please don't treat the finance section as ranting place or kopitiam talk. Occassion making fun in between seems no harm done, but constantly doing it will be seen as spamming.

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post Feb 8 2009, 04:40 PM

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QUOTE(wufei @ Feb 8 2009, 04:21 PM)
Cheeroy, who said I was spamming. This is the fact. Please refer to Schedule 6 of the Income Tax Act 1967.

Regarding my Note No. 1 can find in Sch 6 ITA.
Note 2 : Its an income tax exemption order which is also part of the internal circulations. I dont think you will be able to find this.

You think I like to spam in here?
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Note 2 Internal circulation of exemption order? What you mean by this?
Under the law, or formal internal circulation, ADUN, menteri doesn't need to pay tax?

If it is out of schedule of tax exemption, then it is out, they need to pay tax.
We need prove to show ADUN and menteri don't need to pay tax.

I am respond to your post and guide into the discussion point of this thread. Don't want to see this thread getting out of hand and being reported, after all this thread is an serious and proper discussion thread on personal income tax relief or personal tax issue. smile.gif

We just want this thread grow into meaningful and useful thread to all. smile.gif

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Kekekeke.........Income tax submission againnnnnnnnn


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post Feb 8 2009, 04:46 PM

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QUOTE(toto4d @ Feb 8 2009, 04:34 PM)
Wah! Salute le. But option 1 is almost impossible la, give me oso dun want.
Just curious, for your Note 2, if someone become ADUN for 1 term only, the tax-exemption is still effective for whole life after he/she step-down? (hopefully not considered as spam)
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It is not a spam, instead it is a good discussion point.


Added on February 8, 2009, 4:49 pm
QUOTE(toto4d @ Feb 8 2009, 03:53 PM)
cherroy : For 2009, there are few more items add-on for the tax relief. This was announced in the 2009 Budget. e.g. relief up to Rm 2400 for transport allowance. Mean if your company pay you transport allowance, u can at get tax-exemption for the RM 2400, the remaining will be taxable as normal.

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Thanks for the reminder.

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post Feb 8 2009, 05:39 PM

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QUOTE(getsmart @ Feb 8 2009, 05:26 PM)
Those dividend statements i got in 2008 still show income tax at 26% deducted from the dividend.
As I understand, we can no longer claim dividend deduction under section 110 now right?
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It depends.

Under single tier system, no.

Under old imputation system, still can claim back.

Now, there is mixture on both as those company still having lot of tax credit will comtinue to pay dividend under old system, while those company has used up the tax credit or already in new single tier system will declared dividend under the new system.

Any tax credit unused will be void after 2013, if not mistaken, they gave grace period of 5 years for company to clear up the tax credit.

Correct me if I am wrong,

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post Mar 4 2009, 04:02 PM

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QUOTE(deodorant @ Mar 4 2009, 03:21 PM)
Of course I could have miscalculated (hopefully), I just did some quick 2-min calculation only. But yea my bonus was about half of my entire year's salary.

Anyway while going through my last year's submission, I suddenly realized that my deduction for life insurance and EPF contributions was left blank! omg! That means I paid too much tax, zzzz. Any idea if I can still go back to income tax office to amend last year's submission?
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Once submitted, cannot be modified. Somemore it is last year one.

May be some other got such similar experience in it, can share their experience how to do it, or whether they still accept for modification?
As far as I know, most of the time, it is something like one way ticket, you can overpay, but cannot underpay.

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post Mar 7 2009, 10:59 AM

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QUOTE(penangmee @ Mar 7 2009, 09:35 AM)
Of course you can buy. Intel/Microsoft welcomes your purchase. thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif  But you will not be able to claim for income tax deduction, cool2.gif
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Must be Intel or Microsoft? AMD and Nividia also can mah. biggrin.gif

Seriously, only once in 3 years, be it you bought at 100 or 3,000, one only can claim the relief once in 3 years time.
So if you bought 100, you just can claim 100 relief. Only after 3 years, you can only claim another one.
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QUOTE(wufei @ Mar 9 2009, 11:35 PM)
What is wholly and exclusively?
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It just mean those expenses are essential to be spent to carry out the business or task that earn you the income.
This is to prevent people put personal expenses into it which doesn't relate to the business.

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post Mar 14 2009, 09:10 AM

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QUOTE(gilabola @ Mar 14 2009, 07:59 AM)
If all allowance we get is taxable, especially if it is in our EA form, are we allowed to deduct our expenses.  For instance, if we get a phone allowance and it is in the EA form, can we deduct our phone bills for official calls?
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Only when they got stated those allowance is deductable, otherwise, nope.
Can't simply deduct it out.

Just like recent announcement of tranportation allowance is deductable then it is deductable provided those allowance is essential to carry out your task, otherwise, if not, just for personal usage instead of needed to carry out the your job task, it is still non-deductable.
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QUOTE(cute_boboi @ Apr 2 2009, 12:25 PM)
GST is good. It is fair to everyone. You spend/buy, you pay. I thought it was supposed to implement in MY in 2008 ??
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GST is good if you look at this side.

But if GST is implemented, I can guarantee inflation will be skyrocketing, which in the end of the day, it is the poor one suffer the most.

At current structure, lower income group doesn't pay the tax and rich one pay more. But if GST is implemented and reduce the personal income tax, it becomes poor and rich one also need to pay tax (even though only you buy more then pay more, but poor one origin doesn't need to pay, has to pay now).

The GST implementation has been suspended indefinitely until gov decide later, primary reason, it will cause a shock inflation effect as mentioned.


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QUOTE(gtchye @ Apr 6 2009, 12:06 PM)
GST is a type of 'Consumption Tax' whereas "Income Tax' is a tax on 'Income'.

The bad thing about income tax is that it does not encourage savings. As long as you make a certain amount of income, you have to pay a certain amount of tax, regardless of whether you spend them or not.

Consumption Tax, on the other hand, encourages savings in a way that you only pay the tax when you spend. If you do not spend, then you are not taxed. We already have some consumption tax in Malaysia, eg. hotels, high-end restaurants, parking, gambling, etc. You pay mainly 5% tax when you use these services. If you don't use, then you don't pay. It's fair, right ?

The good thing about consumption tax is based on the fact that the rich usually spend more, then they are taxed more, compared to the poor.

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No doubt, it is a fair system.

But for some folks that earn below 30K - 40K or so under current system (which bulk of Malaysian are in), he/she is totally in disadvatange scenario in the GST structure. They lose out a lot if GST when it is set up.

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post May 3 2009, 06:19 PM

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The reason why IRB doesn't allow shoes and clothes to be included is that they want to prevent people misusing it.

As the main purpose is to give incentive for buying sport equipment for doing sport. But if shoes and shirts are allowed, definitely everyone will claim it as we or most people will buy shoes and clothing every year which is not for purposes of sport.

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