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post Apr 29 2015, 09:50 PM, updated 11y ago

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Fundsupermart.com (FSM) Malaysia is the online unit trust distribution arm of iFAST Capital Sdn. Bhd. ("iFAST Capital").

iFAST Capital is a holder of a Capital Markets Services Licence (CMSL) and is licensed by the Securities Commission to conduct the following regulated activities:

- To deal in unit trusts
- To offer investment advisory services
- To deal in Private Retirement Scheme

iFAST Capital is also registered with the Federation of Investment Managers Malaysia (FiMM) as an Institutional Unit Trust Adviser (IUTA).

iFAST Capital is a subsidiary of iFAST Malaysia Sdn. Bhd., which is wholly owned by iFAST Corporation Ltd. ("iFAST Corporation"). iFAST Corporation is headquartered in Singapore and the iFAST group of companies are also present in Hong Kong, Malaysia and China. The company was incorporated in Singapore on 10 January 2000.

iFAST Corporation was listed on the Singapore Exchange Mainboard in December 2014.

iFAST Corporation, via its wholly owned subsidiary iFAST Financial Pte. Ltd., is Singapore's leading online distributor of unit trusts as well as the leading operator of an investment platform for financial advisers and financial institutions. It carries the Capital Markets Services (CMS) and Financial Adviser (FA) licences issued by the Monetary Authority of Singapore (MAS), and is also one of three appointed Central Provident Board (CPF) Investment Administrators.

One of iFAST Corporation's shareholders is SPH AsiaOne Ltd, the Internet arm of Singapore Press Holdings, which is Singapore's largest media group. In recent years, iFAST Corporation has been expanding beyond local shores. In 2007, iFAST Corporation launched its first overseas business, Fundsupermart in Hong Kong and in 2008, it launched Fundsupermart in Malaysia. iFAST Corporation launched its office in China in 2014.



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1. Wide range of information
2. Extensive product range and value-added services
3. One of the cheapest Sales Charges in town! thumbup.gif


To keep discussions at this thread fruitful and constructive, it would be greatly appreciated that fellow investors try to look for answer to their queries at Frequently Asked Questions before posting here. icon_rolleyes.gif

What is unit trust?
Federation of Investment Managers Malaysia - ABC of Unit Trusts

Other FAQs on Fundsupermart.com and unit trust investing in general

1. NAV pricing and processing time
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2. The NAV price of the fund that I'm interested in is quite high now, should I stay away? Investment gurus always say "buy low, sell high"...
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FSM Idea Of The Week: Unit Split and High Fund Price Misconceptions [24 October 2014]
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Investors should not judge if a unit trust is cheap or expensive based on its unit trust price or NAV. Instead, they should focus on the valuations (PE ratios) of the underlying equity markets that the unit trust invests in.


3. Common misconceptions about unit trust dividends/distributions:

(i) After dividend distribution, NAV price will go down, the fund will become cheaper.
(ii) A fund that declares dividends is better than a fund that does not, dividends are my profit, they make me richer.

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(iii) Topping up my holdings after dividend distribution pulls down my cost per unit, lower cost = higher profit.
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(iv) Distribution = Income
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Ok so after dividend distribution, you get some additional units and NAV drops. Then after few weeks if fund perform well then NAV increases to the point where it is back to the NAV before distribution. Doesnt it mean you gain some income from distribution?
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QUOTE(jerrymax @ Mar 25 2013, 11:19 PM)
Then what's the point of dividend distribution since units and NAV price has negative correlation?
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4. Annual Management Charge, Trustee Fee and NAV pricing
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5. Return On Investment (ROI) vs Annualised Return, similar to Internal Rate of Return (IRR)
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Important link to v8 - The MS Excel Masterclass version!

Download here >>> Pinky's Portfolio Worksheet with IRR Calculation

Download here >>> polarzbearz's Portfolio Summary with Pinky's IRR Calculation (and here for Polarzbearz's FSM-to-Spreadsheet Conversion Tool)
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Make sure you read the instructions as many of the cells have formula in it. You can freely modify, update, or change it to suit your needs (and even share with others if you don't mind tongue.gif )


Happy investing! rclxms.gif

Disclaimer -
I am not a UT agent, nor am I employed by FSM. All my comments here are posted in good faith and with the intention to share knowledge. I am not to be held liable for any losses that may be incurred as a result of following any advice/opinion shared here. I believe the same should be applicable for any other LYN members posting here.
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fyi,..previous V 9 links
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3509481

excel file copy error.
While trying to copy a set of new fund to the placeholder line in v1.7 xls file (copy A17:P22 and insert copied cells to line 195), I get the error "The operation is not allowed. The operation is attempting to shift cells in a table in your worksheet".
answer ...in version 10...see page 11, post # 202, page#13, post# 250, page#15, post# 294, page# 17, post# 323, page# 24, post# 465, 466

my fund had been down, time to top up?
see page# 22, post# 423
start from "Back to your question: ......."

CAGR or XIRR?
page#67, post# 1339

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reporting in too

pink spider seem like missing the usual v1~V9 links?

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Please reduce spamming in this new house sleep.gif
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Well done!

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QUOTE(T231H @ Apr 29 2015, 09:51 PM)
reporting in too

pink spider seem like missing the usual v1~V9 links?
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IMHO only that V with lessons on portfolio worksheet construction worth back-linking too.

Aku TS, aku nak letak apa kat Post #1, it's my prerogative! tongue.gif
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Reporting in FSM V10 rclxm9.gif


for personal reference laugh.gif

Ponzi 1.0 ---> Affin Hwang Select Asia (Ex Japan) Quantum Fund

Ponzi 2.0 ---> CIMB-Principal Asia Pacific Dynamic Income Fund

Evergreen Fund ---> Kenanga Growth Fund

p/s: Reason for nickname Ponzi Because of its impressive return in short term (historical)

How do I know which Unit Trust to buy?
Before you jump in, there are several things which you need to find out about yourself. Your risk tolerance, investment goals, time horizon and so on. Go to FSM Getting Started section to find out more. After doing that, you should find the fund whose investment objectives match your own. Make use of FSM Fund Selector and read our fact sheets to compare and contrast the unit trusts available. You may also read FSM Funds' recommendations. Soon you will find one which you are comfortable with. Start with that first. As you gain more confidence and understanding of unit trusts, you may then invests more.

What is risk in investing?
The bottom line is that risk can mean different things – volatility, the risk of capital loss, the risk of not having enough income from your investment and the risk of not having enough in retirement. Each of these risks can be of greater or lesser importance depending on your stage in life, how much capital you have and your tolerance for risk. What’s more risk is perverse. The risk of capital loss is often highest when you think it is low (ie after good times) and lowest when you think it is high (ie after a bad patch).
http://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/resea...?articleNo=5688

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Apr 29 2015, 09:58 PM)
IMHO only that V with lessons on portfolio worksheet construction worth back-linking too.

Aku TS, aku nak letak apa kat Post #1, it's my prerogative! tongue.gif
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Wow.. new house. ^.^...

Btw. seeing red in my Ponzi 2.0. lol. Should be short term red i think. Transacted on Monday.
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QUOTE(IvanWong1989 @ Apr 29 2015, 11:18 PM)
Wow.. new house. ^.^...

Btw. seeing red in my Ponzi 2.0. lol. Should be short term red i think. Transacted on Monday.
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Dont worry too much on the short term up or down bro..
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QUOTE(IvanWong1989 @ Apr 29 2015, 10:18 PM)
Wow.. new house. ^.^...

Btw. seeing red in my Ponzi 2.0. lol. Should be short term red i think. Transacted on Monday.
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hmm.gif even if the fund NAV did not moves since you bought it......it will still be "RED" due the Sales Charges...

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reporting in too....

mine also alot of red....especially on TA European
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QUOTE(chelsea2013 @ Apr 29 2015, 10:24 PM)
reporting in too....

mine also alot of red....especially on TA European
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European shares hit by weak earnings and rebound in euro
http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/04/29/...N0XQ3OH20150429
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Mine all read except KGF and Aberdeen which is hanging by the thread. But major losses by Manulife India and RHB Bi Cap China.

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Sensex falls 170 points ahead of derivatives expiry, Fed meet rolleyes.gif
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Persistent selling by foreign investors on MAT worries, disappointing Q4 earning numbers and delay in land acquisition bill led to book-profiting ahead of expiry of the April derivatives contract expiring on Thursday

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/busines...ow/47098318.cms
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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Apr 29 2015, 11:29 PM)
Mine all read except KGF and Aberdeen which is hanging by the thread. But major losses by Manulife India and RHB Bi Cap China.

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keep invested in india?
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QUOTE(Kaka23 @ Apr 29 2015, 10:41 PM)
keep invested in india?
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YES,...INDIA.

latest news...

India to build 100 smart cities
•29 Apr 2015 at 20:29

NEW DELHI — The Indian government on Wednesday approved plans to build 100 smart cities and upgrade 500 towns and cities in a major initiative to improve urban infrastructure and boost economic growth.

Chaired by Prime Minister Narendra Modi, the cabinet cleared the projects that will attract minimum investments of 2 trillion rupees (1,037 trillion baht) over the next five years, a government statement said.

http://www.bangkokpost.com/news/asia/54583...00-smart-cities

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REGROUP. REGROUP. I have intra switched the profits or switched out completely from a few equity funds into bond funds these few days.

No point pounding my head against a brick wall. We need to be fluid like water sometimes.

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U.S. Economy Stalls in the First Quarter

Gross domestic product, the volume of all goods and services produced, rose at a 0.2 percent annualized rate after advancing 2.2 percent the prior quarter, Commerce Department data showed Wednesday in Washington. The median forecast of 86 economists surveyed by Bloomberg called for a 1 percent gain. Consumer spending, the biggest part of the economy, rose 1.9 percent, a little better than projected.

URL: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/201...pending-exports
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With low yields crimping shopping list, ECB might change QE terms
http://www.theedgemarkets.com/my/article/l...ms?type=Markets


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To answer Ivan Wong,

i pulled some numbers and it look like this:

MSI is a a component of Nasdaq. Nasdaq average annualised return for the past years is 20% p.a. MSI correlation coeeficient wrt Nasdaq i.e., its beta relative to benchmark is 0.7 ( from Yahoo finance )


The risk free rate i.e, Ten Year US govt bond is currently resting at 2.05% p.a.

Using CAPM formula, I got the required rate for MSI to be 14.62% p.a.

This means that MSI must have an upside potential of at least 14.62% to make it attractive to investor.

Based on last closing price of USD 60.18 and analyst one year target price of USD 65.00 ( got it from a finance website -marketwatch ), the upside potential is abt 8%. Hence to a common man, MSI is unattractive. But, you mentioned you can buy at a 15% discount, so 15+8% = 23% is attractive for you. Hence it is a Buy for you.

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CMF yield reducing rapidly...from 3.7%+ in February, now only 3.5%+ sad.gif
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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Apr 30 2015, 07:37 AM)
CMF yield reducing rapidly...from 3.7%+ in February, now only 3.5%+ sad.gif
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So where u wanna park your cash now?

Terus masuk stocks?

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QUOTE(Kaka23 @ Apr 30 2015, 07:12 AM)
So where u wanna park your cash now? 

Terus masuk stocks?
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Dividend stocks. but could be further downside. monitor dulu foe now
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Even European stocks took a good beating yesterday. I expect Asia to follow suit today. Its gonna be a bloodbath today unless a miracle happens.

Do not follow the herd into Chinese stocks
http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/0/7fc374cc-e8...l#axzz3YkQOK2sp

Global stocks decline on weak results, soft US growth; Fed statement digested
http://www.scmp.com/business/markets/artic...h-fed-statement


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wow....5 "BAD" noises......
May be true BUT....I am follow suit.....he is my "Khun"...


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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Apr 30 2015, 08:32 AM)
Even European stocks took a good beating yesterday. I expect Asia to follow suit today. Its gonna be a bloodbath today unless a miracle happens.

Do not follow the herd into Chinese stocks
http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/0/7fc374cc-e8...l#axzz3YkQOK2sp

Global stocks decline on weak results, soft US growth; Fed statement digested
http://www.scmp.com/business/markets/artic...h-fed-statement
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Sell In May And Go Away......... sweat.gif sweat.gif

DEFINITION of 'Sell In May And Go Away'

A well-known trading adage that warns investors to sell their stock holdings in May to avoid a seasonal decline in equity markets. The "sell in May and go away" strategy is that an investor who sells his or her stock holdings in May and gets back into the equity market in November - thereby avoiding the typically volatile May-October period - would be much better off than an investor who stays in equities throughout the year.

INVESTOPEDIA EXPLAINS 'Sell In May And Go Away'

This strategy is based on the historical underperformance of stocks in the six-month period commencing in May and ending in October, compared to the six-month period from November to April. According to the Stock Trader's Almanac, since 1950, the Dow Jones Industrial Average has had an average return of only 0.3% during the May-October period, compared with an average gain of 7.5% during the November-April period.

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The problem is we don't know if this is a sign of the bull run turning bearish or just a short slump which provided more buying opportunities. Yesterday was a particularly bad day for Europe and I was expecting that region to be more stable than the Greater China region. But it took a bad hit.

Im tempted to pump in more money since many funds are at an all time low for 2015 but on the other hand I don't want get caught by a bear market.


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QUOTE(T231H @ Apr 30 2015, 08:45 AM)
Sell In May And Go Away......... sweat.gif  sweat.gif

DEFINITION of 'Sell In May And Go Away'

A well-known trading adage that warns investors to sell their stock holdings in May to avoid a seasonal decline in equity markets. The "sell in May and go away" strategy is that an investor who sells his or her stock holdings in May and gets back into the equity market in November - thereby avoiding the typically volatile May-October period - would be much better off than an investor who stays in equities throughout the year.

INVESTOPEDIA EXPLAINS 'Sell In May And Go Away'

This strategy is based on the historical underperformance of stocks in the six-month period commencing in May and ending in October, compared to the six-month period from November to April. According to the Stock Trader's Almanac, since 1950, the Dow Jones Industrial Average has had an average return of only 0.3% during the May-October period, compared with an average gain of 7.5% during the November-April period.
Wow...this is news. I surely didn't know this. Thanks for this piece of info.
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That is only meant for US market.
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QUOTE(David83 @ Apr 30 2015, 08:48 AM)
That is only meant for US market.
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hmm.gif Maybe Bolehland?...(due to not so open mkt?)

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if US mkt kena HENTAM.....anywhere isolated?  notworthy.gif
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It's an annual "event" for US market.
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QUOTE(David83 @ Apr 30 2015, 08:52 AM)
It's an annual "event" for US market.
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QUOTE(yklooi @ Apr 30 2015, 09:39 AM)
wow....5 "BAD" noises......
May be true BUT....I am follow suit.....he is my "Khun"...
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Can you enlighten me who is this Khun guy?
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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Apr 30 2015, 09:47 AM)
Wow...this is news. I surely didn't know this. Thanks for this piece of info.
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Every year when it comes to April/May, some people will publish this in this thread.. tongue.gif
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Opinion: This is a better way to ‘sell in May and go away’
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/this-is-a...away-2015-04-29
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QUOTE(Kaka23 @ Apr 30 2015, 09:04 AM)
Can you enlighten me who is this Khun guy?
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ha-ha,..very funny...
try google "Gen Prayut".
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QUOTE(yklooi @ Apr 30 2015, 10:07 AM)
ha-ha,..very funny...
try google "Gen Prayut".
have go MD breakfast....
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Stocks likely to benefit from the smart cities programme

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/market...ow/47102693.cms

Good news to stay invested in India? hmm.gif


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How to gird yourself for the next stock market correction

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/how-to-gi...tion-2015-04-27

This is a good article which sorta summarises what we should be doing. So ive decided not to sell off any of my holdings. But I may take advantage of the drop in prices to pump in more money.


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What do you sifus think of this? Doesn't sound like the usual doomsday talk. The charts are quite scary don't u think?

Why the Next Stock Market Crash Will Happen Any Day Now

http://www.newsmax.com/Finance/MKTNews/Mar...3/01/id/492699/



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Today Japan drop more than 1.5%. Yesterday just top up Japan..
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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Apr 30 2015, 10:18 AM)
What do you sifus think of this? Doesn't sound like the usual doomsday talk. The charts are quite scary don't u think?

Why the Next Stock Market Crash Will Happen Any Day Now

http://www.newsmax.com/Finance/MKTNews/Mar...3/01/id/492699/
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Doom and gloom predictions have been around for years. They were there before we were born and they will still be there after we leave this world.

We just have to practise asset allocation and do the best we can.

On a different note, I was surprised to see the amount of your investment. If I had knew, I would have advised you to diversify more. At least 6-8 equity funds and 2 bond funds. I believe you have zero bond funds now? If my assumption is correct, you have a super aggressive portfolio which is extremely vulnerable to the market forces. This may leave you open to panic attacks when the market goes down.

But all is not lost. You can re-structure your asset allocation later once it turn green again.

May the force be with you.
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QUOTE(Kaka23 @ Apr 30 2015, 10:30 AM)
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Today Japan drop more than 1.5%. Yesterday just top up Japan..
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Don't cry sis. Can top up again if you have extra ammo. I am planning to top up a lot on Japan once my reserve troops arrive.
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QUOTE(Vanguard 2015 @ Apr 30 2015, 10:35 AM)
Doom and gloom predictions have been around for years. They were there before we were born and they will still be there after we leave this world.

We just have to practise asset allocation and do the best we can.

On a different note, I was surprised to see the amount of your investment. If I had knew, I would have advised you to diversify more. At least 6-8 equity funds and 2 bond funds. I believe you have zero bond funds now? If my assumption is correct, you have a super aggressive portfolio which is extremely vulnerable to the market forces. This may leave you open to panic attacks when the market goes down.

But all is not lost. You can re-structure your asset allocation later once it turn green again.

May the force be with you.
Well im planning to include 1 more fund today (Maybe a Japan focused fund) or pump in more cash into Ponzi 2.0 or Aberdeen.

My fund portfolio currently:

RHB-OSK Big Cap China Enterprise - 25%
CIMB Principle Asia Pacific Dynamic Income - 20% (
Kenanga Growth Fund - 15%
Manulife India Equity - 15%
CIMB Global Titans - 15%
Aberdeen Islamic World Equity - 10%


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Don't cry sis. Can top up again if you have extra ammo. I am planning to top up a lot on Japan once my reserve troops arrive.
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Not enough ammo.. got also few hundreds only.

Your reserves?!!! Bonus?
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What does Schroder -ISF and Principal GLB in the CIMB Global Titans fund mean? I know they are mutual funds but cant seem to figure out what ISF and GLB mean.
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Not enough ammo.. got also few hundreds only.

Your reserves?!!! Bonus?
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No, I took profits or intra switched the following equity funds into bond funds:-

(1) AmREIT (switched out completely);
(2) RHB OSK China India (switched out completely);
(3) Libra Consumer (switched out 1/2);
(4) KGF (took profits); and
(5) EISC (took profits).

I have no more reserve cash to pump in for now.

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QUOTE(Vanguard 2015 @ Apr 30 2015, 10:49 AM)
No, I took profits or intra switched the following equity funds into bond funds:-

(1)  AmREIT (switched out completely);
(2)  RHB OSK China India (switched out completely);
(3)  Libra Consume (switched out 1/2);
(4)  KGF (took profits); and
(5)  EISC (took profits).

I have no more reserve cash to pump in for now.
I have ample cash reserves. Maybe I loan to u at 7% interest? brows.gif
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Well im planning to include 1 more fund today (Maybe a Japan focused fund) or pump in more cash into Ponzi 2.0 or Aberdeen.

My fund portfolio currently:

RHB-OSK Big Cap China Enterprise - 25%
CIMB Principle Asia Pacific Dynamic Income - 20% (
Kenanga Growth Fund - 15%
Manulife India Equity - 15%
CIMB Global Titans - 15%
Aberdeen Islamic World Equity - 10%
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My 2 cents view....please don't get offended. I think you are too heavy in RHB-OSK China and Manulife India. These are high risk satellite funds which should form part of your supplementary portfolio only. At the most, you should buy maybe 5% to 7% for each of the fund. Therefore, they will form about 10% to 14% of your portfolio. Currently they form about 40% of your portfolio. You will have sleepless nights if China and India markets collapse.

Again, no bond funds? This should be 20% or at least 10% of your portfolio.

Of course I am only making a general assumption without knowing your age, income level, risk tolerance, etc.

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My 2 cents view....please don't get offended. I think you are too heavy in RHB-OSK China and Manulife India. These are high risk satellite funds which should form part of your supplementary portfolio only. At the most, you should buy maybe 5% to 7% for each of the fund. Therefore, they will form about 10% to 14% of your portfolio. Currently they form about 40% of your portfolio. You will have sleepless nights if China and India markets collapse.

Again, no bond funds? This should be 20% or at least 10% of your portfolio.

Of course I am only making a general assumption without knowing your age, income level, risk tolerance, etc.
No offense at all. Happy to get advise. I know nothing about bond funds or how it works or the income levels?

Care to briefly explain?
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I have ample cash reserves. Maybe I loan to u at 7% interest?  brows.gif
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What does Schroder -ISF and Principal GLB in the CIMB Global Titans fund mean? I know they are mutual funds but cant seem to figure out what ISF and GLB mean.
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ISF = International Selection Fund
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I just reduce my exposure on equity and funds, while park my cash in 4% short term FD. sweat.gif
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No offense at all. Happy to get advise. I know nothing about bond funds or how it works or the income levels?

Care to briefly explain?
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try this site for info?
http://www.fundsupermart.com.hk/hk/main/di...bondSchool.svdo
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No offense at all. Happy to get advise. I know nothing about bond funds or how it works or the income levels?

Care to briefly explain?
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The annual return for bond funds ranges from 3% to 10%. It can be short term, mid-term or long term bonds. The risk rating can be from 1 to 5. Since you already have a high risk portfolio, aim for bond funds with risk rating of 2 and below.

I will only show you the tree. You have to choose the fruits. Please read the FSM webpage for the different available bond funds and also FSM's recommended bond funds.

Good luck!
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I just reduce my exposure on equity and funds, while park my cash in 4% short term FD.   sweat.gif
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hmm.gif managed to make some profits before you reduce?
hmm.gif managed to learn or feel the emotional "stress" of investing?

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The annual return for bond funds ranges from 3% to 10%. It can be short term, mid-term or long term bonds. The risk rating can be from 1 to 5. Since you already have a high risk portfolio, aim for bond funds with risk rating of 2 and below. 

I will only show you the tree. You have to choose the fruits. Please read the FSM webpage for the different available bond funds and also FSM's recommended bond funds.

Good luck!
I have the bulk of my cash reserves sitting in ASB which is why I went aggressive in my fund portfolio. Not sure if that was a good move? Do I still need bond funds?
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I have the bulk of my cash reserves sitting in ASB which is why I went aggressive in my fund portfolio. Not sure if that was a good move? Do I still need bond funds?
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If that is the case, you may not need bond funds since ASB give better returns. The ASB will form your spare ammo or reserve troops if you need to do DCA or Value Averaging later to take advantage of the market corrections.

Financially you are in a much better position than the average investor.

Your main concern now is to re-balance your asset allocation later. If I had your asset allocation and since I am not rich, I will not be able to sleep at night.

Logout. Catch you later.
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hmm.gif managed to make some profits before you reduce?
hmm.gif managed to learn or feel the emotional "stress" of investing?
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For fund my current one were on red (1.8%) cry.gif. As for equity overall for 2015 my portfolio seems to be still healthy, but ive cash out and reduce it by around 60%.

I'm planing to invest less on equity nowadays, and target on funds.Hope this help to reduce my emotional stress. rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(Clement1001 @ Apr 30 2015, 11:20 AM)
For fund my current one were on red (1.8%)  cry.gif. As for equity overall for 2015 my portfolio seems to be still healthy, but ive cash out and reduce it by around 60%.

I'm planing to invest less on equity nowadays, and target on funds.Hope this help to reduce my emotional stress. rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(Vanguard 2015 @ Apr 30 2015, 11:04 AM)
The annual return for bond funds ranges from 3% to 10%. It can be short term, mid-term or long term bonds. The risk rating can be from 1 to 5. Since you already have a high risk portfolio, aim for bond funds with risk rating of 2 and below. 

I will only show you the tree. You have to choose the fruits. Please read the FSM webpage for the different available bond funds and also FSM's recommended bond funds.

Good luck!
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I have 25% in a bond fund. But I have no idea if there is a crash of the market, will bond fund be spared ?
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I have 25% in a bond fund. But I have no idea if there is a crash of the market, will bond fund be spared ?
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Depends on what bond funds you buy....some are very sensitive to interest rate hike...
YES, that too depends on the situation that lead the good return rate before the crash....
YES bond are not spared too in recent instance together both EQ and bonds fell...Mid 2013.

just like any investment...if you have holding power, "most" would be good in the long terms

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yes,..just recalled....
June 2013 was the times that all 3 assets fell at the same time
GOLD, Equities and Bonds...

As Stocks, Bonds and Gold Fall, Where’s the Cash Going?
By Michael Santoli June 27, 2013

http://finance.yahoo.com/blogs/michael-san...-111013485.html
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Good time to go into Japan now? After the drop yesterday and expected to continue today?

Besides Affin Hwang and Global Titans, any other good funds with exposure to Japan?
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Good time to go into Japan now? After the drop yesterday and expected to continue today?

Besides Affin Hwang and Global Titans, any other good funds with exposure to Japan?
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Do Japanese Equities Still See An Upside Potential?
Published: April 10, 2015
FSM discuss whether Japanese equities can ride on its recent surge and maintain the upward momentum.
http://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/resea...?articleNo=5728

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I have the bulk of my cash reserves sitting in ASB which is why I went aggressive in my fund portfolio. Not sure if that was a good move? Do I still need bond funds?
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good move to have cash reserves sitting in ASB.. u can never go wrong with ASB flex.gif
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My 2 cents view....please don't get offended. I think you are too heavy in RHB-OSK China and Manulife India. These are high risk satellite funds which should form part of your supplementary portfolio only. At the most, you should buy maybe 5% to 7% for each of the fund. Therefore, they will form about 10% to 14% of your portfolio. Currently they form about 40% of your portfolio. You will have sleepless nights if China and India markets collapse.

Again, no bond funds? This should be 20% or at least 10% of your portfolio.

Of course I am only making a general assumption without knowing your age, income level, risk tolerance, etc.
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good advise bro
what's ur opinion about that global titans?
not the same with aberdeen?
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QUOTE(pr0pofol @ Apr 30 2015, 12:47 PM)
good advise bro
what's ur opinion about that global titans?
not the same with aberdeen?
Global Titans is US focused while Aberdeen is Europe focused. With the slowdown in US and outflow of money, Aberdeen seems a better bet.
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Do Japanese Equities Still See An Upside Potential?
Published: April 10, 2015
FSM discuss whether Japanese equities can ride on its recent surge and maintain the upward momentum.
http://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/resea...?articleNo=5728
So Affin Hwang Japan Growth Fund?
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Volatility continues as Sensex falls 275 points
http://www.dnaindia.com/money/report-volat...-points-2081974
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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Apr 30 2015, 01:09 PM)
Volatility continues as Sensex falls 275 points
Nikkei is the worst performing stock market now. Dropped more than 514 points or 2.57% today.

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In addition, the Manager plan to continue investing in undervalued stocks among names that are engaged in infrastructure-related construction ahead of the 2020 Olympics in Tokyo and in those connected to the development of the maglev high-speed train
(connecting Tokyo and Nagoya) that is scheduled to start operating in 2027.

AffinHwang Japan Growth Fund

Portfolio Turnover Ratio (times) 1.09 seems a little high to me. however, growth funds tend to have higher turnover rates. These funds are more transaction-intensive as the managers maneuver for competitive advantages.


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I have 25% in a bond fund. But I have no idea if there is a crash of the market, will bond fund be spared ?
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I believe the sifus in this forum have answered your question. To minimise the risk, perhaps you may want to restrict your portfolio to bond funds with risk rating of 2 or below. Bond funds with higher risk ratings will also fluctuate like equity funds.

For example, I am now holding the RHB-OSK Asian Total Return Fund with a risk rating of 4. To date, the paper loss is -3.66%. It is the second worst performing fund in my entire portfolio.
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good advise bro
what's ur opinion about that global titans?
not the same with aberdeen?
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Global Titans is US focused while Aberdeen is Europe focused. With the slowdown in US and outflow of money, Aberdeen seems a better bet.
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Hi Propofol, I believe Cybermaster has already answered your question.

If I may add on, for Muslim investors who are interested in halal investment only, they may wish to restrict their global investment to Aberdeen Islamic World Equity Fund. I believe this fund does not invest in sin stocks such as alcohol or gambling.
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I am happy to see that all the Asian share markets are in the red today. I hope they will continue to go down. By the time my equity funds are converted into bond funds, hopefully the timing would be nice to buy in.

To quote Warren Buffet, “Be Fearful When Others Are Greedy and Greedy When Others Are Fearful” .
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Hi Propofol, I believe Cybermaster has already answered your question.

If I may add on, for Muslim investors who are interested in halal investment only, they may wish to restrict their global investment to Aberdeen Islamic World Equity Fund. I believe this fund does not invest in sin stocks such as alcohol or gambling.
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ic.. but looking at aberdeen now i think i will refrain from going global yet
currently my portfolio is:

ponzi 2.0 - 30%
CIMB greater china - 30%
kgf - 30%

but this is just the tip of the iceberg
most of my funds are in amanah saham
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QUOTE(pr0pofol @ Apr 30 2015, 03:35 PM)
ic.. but looking at aberdeen now i think i will refrain from going global yet
currently my portfolio is:

ponzi 2.0 - 30%
CIMB greater china - 30%
kgf - 30%

but this is just the tip of the iceberg
most of my funds are in amanah saham
I thought my portfolio is more aggressive, but seems like your portfolio is more risky. U have to balance with the inclusion of Europe. For the past week, Aberdeen is my best performing in terms of % of losses.

Plus this week has been a bloodbath for all stock markets. I think early next week will be a good buying opportunity. Should seriously consider Japan too.

My current holdings are:

RHB-OSK Big Cap China Enterprise - 25%
CIMB Principle Asia Pacific Dynamic Income - 20%
Kenanga Growth Fund - 15%
Manulife India Equity - 15%
CIMB Global Titans - 15%
Aberdeen Islamic World Equity - 10%

So based on my portfolio now, my cumulative exposure to key markets is as follows:

1) Hong Kong – 36%
2) Malaysia – 15% (previously 75%)
3) Europe – 14%
4) US – 12%
5) China – 6%
6) Japan – 5%
7) Singapore – 5%
8) Australia – 4%
9) India – 3%

Im gonna do one or all of the following early next week:

1) Put in more money into Ponzi 2.0
2) Put in more money into Aberdeen since yesterday was a big drop (and possibly today)
3) Put in more money into Manulife India (NAV is at the lowest since Jan this year so probably good time to increase)
4) Buy Affin Hwang Japan Growth Fund


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I thought my portfolio is more aggressive, but seems like your portfolio is more risky. U have to balance with the inclusion of Europe. For the past week, Aberdeen is my best performing in terms of % of losses.

Plus this week has been a bloodbath for all stock markets. I think early next week will be a good buying opportunity. Should seriously consider Japan too.

My current holdings are:

RHB-OSK Big Cap China Enterprise - 25%
CIMB Principle Asia Pacific Dynamic Income - 20%
Kenanga Growth Fund - 15%
Manulife India Equity - 15%
CIMB Global Titans - 15%
Aberdeen Islamic World Equity - 10%
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like i said, unit trust is like 1% of my investment only
the other 99% somewhere else hehe
so i think i can bear the risk
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QUOTE(pr0pofol @ Apr 30 2015, 03:45 PM)
like i said, unit trust is like 1% of my investment only
the other 99% somewhere else hehe
so i think i can bear the risk
So small why bother investing la? Take a bit more risk la. drool.gif

I have about 85% of funds in ASB so im playing around with just 15% here. That's why my portfolio is aggressive but even though its aggressive, u must still balance risks.
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So small why bother investing la? Take a bit more risk la.  drool.gif

I have about 85% of funds in ASB so im playing around with just 15% here. That's why my portfolio is aggressive but even though its aggressive, u must still balance risks.
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ok i might put in aberdeen or global titan a bit, see how next week goes
but staying away from india only and japan only fund at the moment
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QUOTE(pr0pofol @ Apr 30 2015, 03:54 PM)
ok i might put in aberdeen or global titan a bit, see how next week goes
but staying away from india only and japan only fund at the moment
This article might help you with your decision making:

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/how-to-gi...tion-2015-04-27

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I am happy to see that all the Asian share markets are in the red today. I hope they will continue to go down. By the time my equity funds are converted into bond funds, hopefully the timing would be nice to buy in.

To quote Warren Buffet, “Be Fearful When Others Are Greedy and Greedy When Others Are Fearful” .
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some people would be cursing because u are happy to see all the Asian share markets are in the red today sweat.gif
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some people would be cursing because u are happy to see all the Asian share markets are in the red today  sweat.gif
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Eh, so I guess I am one of the most unpopular forumers here? sweat.gif

But I have never made money in a rising market before....only in a falling market.

Please don't ban me OK? cry.gif

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I believe the sifus in this forum have answered your question. To minimise the risk, perhaps you may want to restrict your portfolio to bond funds with risk rating of 2 or below. Bond funds with higher risk ratings will also fluctuate like equity funds.

For example, I am now holding the RHB-OSK Asian Total Return Fund with a risk rating of 4. To date, the paper loss is -3.66%. It is the second worst performing fund in my entire portfolio.
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Haha I just check the bond I purchased, it is rated as 4.
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Eh, so I guess I am one of the most unpopular forumers here?  sweat.gif 

But I have never made money in a rising market before....only in a falling market. 

Please don't ban me OK?  cry.gif
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My current holdings are:

RHB-OSK Big Cap China Enterprise - 25%
CIMB Principle Asia Pacific Dynamic Income - 20%
Kenanga Growth Fund - 15%
Manulife India Equity - 15%
CIMB Global Titans - 15%
Aberdeen Islamic World Equity - 10%

So based on my portfolio now, my cumulative exposure to key markets is as follows:

1) Hong Kong – 36%
2) Malaysia – 15% (previously 75%)
3) Europe – 14%
4) US – 12%
5) China – 6%
6) Japan – 5%
7) Singapore – 5% 
8) Australia – 4%
9) India – 3%

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What happened to RHB-OSK Asian Total Return Fund? It has been in the red for the past month. Did the Asian bond market collapse or something?

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QUOTE(samsarauttar @ Apr 30 2015, 05:08 PM)
What happened to RHB-OSK Asian Total Return Fund? It has been in the red for the past month. Did the Asian bond market collapse or something?
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No idea. Your guess is as good as mine.

Pink Spider, do you know what happened to the fund? It is bleeding red and becoming an eyesore in my portfolio. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(T231H @ Apr 30 2015, 04:56 PM)
hmm.gif ....i maybe wrong here but a quick glance looks like the % not tally.
Don't think it can tally since one % is for the fund and another % is for the country exposure?
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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Apr 30 2015, 05:52 PM)
Don't think it can tally since one % is for the fund and another % is for the country exposure?
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but you have 15% of yr portfolio allocated in India focused fund
therefore your india exposure in your portfolio should be more than 3%.
that is what I don't understand
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QUOTE(samsarauttar @ Apr 30 2015, 05:08 PM)
What happened to RHB-OSK Asian Total Return Fund? It has been in the red for the past month. Did the Asian bond market collapse or something?
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the target fund United Asian Bond Fund also kena-wor...

Bid to Bid Returns
Period
1 wk 1 MTH 3 MTH 6 MTH YTD

SGD (%)
-3.15 -3.2 -1.36 2.92 1.14

maybe this Bond report dated 23 Apr can shred some light
https://secure.fundsupermart.com.hk/hk/main...&articleNo=9666

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all bond fund in red? blink.gif wat happen ah? rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Apr 30 2015, 06:21 PM)
all bond fund in red?  blink.gif  wat happen ah? rclxub.gif
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which FH? all FHs?
which regions or country bond Funds?
pls be specific...so that I can see...
fyi,...NOT True for some EI bond funds.

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Perhaps this.... red red ?


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Perhaps this.... red red ?
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rclxms.gif good point...
hmm.gif but are there more on the lower of the page?
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QUOTE(T231H @ Apr 30 2015, 07:04 PM)
rclxms.gif  good point...
hmm.gif but are there more on the lower of the page?
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Nope. lol. These are the reds.... lol....
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KGF at 1% promo price until May 29th 2015. rclxms.gif


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What happen to this fund?

RHB-OSK Asian Total Return Fund

Red all the way.
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QUOTE(IvanWong1989 @ Apr 30 2015, 07:33 PM)
KGF at 1% promo price until May 29th 2015.  rclxms.gif
http://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/resea...?articleNo=5797
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FBM KLCI slumped 24.66 points or 1.3% to 1,818.27 points whistling.gif
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tongue.gif i didn't take the plunge..
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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Apr 30 2015, 08:41 PM)
FBM KLCI slumped 24.66 points or 1.3% to 1,818.27 points  whistling.gif
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Valuation still expensive. Ask KLCI to fall another 10%.

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QUOTE(IvanWong1989 @ Apr 30 2015, 08:47 PM)
tongue.gif  i didn't take the plunge..
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And the reason you didn't take the plunge is because...
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QUOTE(Vanguard 2015 @ Apr 30 2015, 10:15 PM)
Valuation still expensive. Ask KLCI to fall another 10%.

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QUOTE(IvanWong1989 @ Apr 30 2015, 07:33 PM)
KGF at 1% promo price until May 29th 2015.  rclxms.gif
http://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/resea...?articleNo=5797
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KGF is hoarding more cash? Cash reserve of 24% not enough?
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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Apr 30 2015, 10:16 PM)
a lot of pipu would jump 14th floor  sweat.gif
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Err...my office is on the 13th floor... ohmy.gif

But seriously, a correction is long overdue.
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QUOTE(Vanguard 2015 @ Apr 30 2015, 10:19 PM)
Err...my office is on the 13th floor... ohmy.gif

But seriously, a correction is long overdue.
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yes I know.. it's long overdue but we have strong local funds to "support" unlike others countries nod.gif
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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Apr 30 2015, 10:23 PM)
yes I know.. it's long overdue but we have strong local funds to "support" unlike others countries  nod.gif
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The question now is whether I should think with my balls or with my brain. My heart tells me to switch out completely from KGF and EISC now into bond funds. My brain tells me to think rationally and sit out any possible storm. Decision....decision rclxub.gif

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Apr 30 2015, 11:16 PM)
a lot of pipu would jump 14th floor  sweat.gif
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Not sp fast yet bro..

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QUOTE(Vanguard 2015 @ Apr 30 2015, 10:16 PM)
And the reason you didn't take the plunge is because...
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My internal gyrometer signals me to wait. lol. at least till next week or the week after.

Might fall more. hmm.gif gut feeling plus some basic technicals on the klci chart..
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QUOTE(Vanguard 2015 @ Apr 30 2015, 10:17 PM)
KGF is hoarding more cash? Cash reserve of 24% not enough?
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hmm.gif is it hoarding because readying to pump in when it falls low? rclxub.gif
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hmm.gif  is it hoarding because readying to pump in when it falls low?  rclxub.gif
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woah u got good valid point there unsure.gif
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Not enough to go in now?

How much KLCI has dropped recently?
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QUOTE(David83 @ Apr 30 2015, 11:52 PM)
Not enough to go in now?

How much KLCI has dropped recently?
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FBM KLCI slumped 24.66 points or 1.3% to 1,818.27 points  whistling.gif
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Any idea why dropped so much today?
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Any idea why dropped so much today?
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Another US sell off. Dropped >1%
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QUOTE(David83 @ May 1 2015, 08:59 AM)
Another US sell off. Dropped >1%
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the time will come, the time will come.....
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QUOTE(yklooi @ May 1 2015, 10:01 AM)
the time will come, the time will come.....
in the meantime.....
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eh. btw. should we treat UT this way? as in when we see markets dropping, we hold until it's low enough b4 going in.

or is it that the FM should already know to not throw that money in the sea yet n therefore we can go in anytime.
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QUOTE(IvanWong1989 @ May 1 2015, 10:09 AM)
vader rocks... lol....
eh. btw. should we treat UT this way? as in when we see markets dropping, we hold until it's low enough b4 going in.

or is it that the FM should already know to not throw that money in the sea yet n therefore we can go in anytime.
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if one does not have a portfolio yet, or want to reorganize it, know what you want for your portfolio, get them slowly
like the Jedi master teaches...go for the "weakest" one first.
IF the fund is regional/global that has wider mandate (especially those that did not state...example, "The fund will remain invested at 90% at all times") ...Let the FM do the job....
ELSE, one has to be the controller...

a post by forummer j.passing.by at post# 2916 has some of those advise....

https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2466037/+2900

btw,...I am still struggling to shift, turn and revamp my portfolio till this day..... doh.gif ...
called true live emotional learning based investing.... doh.gif
"By recognising that listening to your emotions when investing can be an innate weakness, you are taking an important step towards a more successful investment experience".

why am I still learning to shift, turn and revamp?
because maybe part of the reason is there.....Why “Buy Low Sell High” Is So Difficult".
http://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/resea...?articleNo=2716


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QUOTE(yklooi @ May 1 2015, 10:26 AM)
......because maybe part of the reason is there.....Why “Buy Low Sell High” Is So Difficult".
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Dear sifus,
I need some advice here. I plan to include Asia fund exposure & bond fund to my portfolio. What about these funds below? Thank you.

CIMB-PRINCIPAL ASIA PACIFIC DYNAMIC INCOME FUND
AMB Income Trust Fund or ES Bond Fund

My current portfolio:
KGF - 29%
Ponzi 1.0 - 32%
ES GEM -39%

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Dear sifus,
I need some advice here. I plan to include Asia fund exposure & bond fund to my portfolio. What about these funds below? Thank you.
CIMB-PRINCIPAL ASIA PACIFIC DYNAMIC INCOME FUND
AMB Income Trust Fund or ES Bond Fund

My current portfolio:
KGF - 29%
Ponzi 1.0 - 32%
ES GEM -39%
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hmm.gif a rough guess....
many of the countries in yr current ES GEM is covered in your proposed to get CIMB-PRINCIPAL ASIA PACIFIC DYNAMIC INCOME FUND....

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Dear sifus,
I need some advice here. I plan to include Asia fund exposure & bond fund to my portfolio. What about these funds below? Thank you.

CIMB-PRINCIPAL ASIA PACIFIC DYNAMIC INCOME FUND
AMB Income Trust Fund or ES Bond Fund

My current portfolio:
KGF - 29%
Ponzi 1.0 - 32%
ES GEM -39%
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Hi, sifus are all on leave today.

Pending their return, Ponzi 2 OK, can buy. AMB Income Trust gives fantastic return because its volatility is high. One of the debt issuers under the fund defaulted before.

No global fund? You need some exposure to US and Europe. Try CIMB Global Titans or Aberdeen World.

Hope this info helps. Good luck.
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QUOTE(T231H @ May 1 2015, 11:42 AM)
hmm.gif  a rough guess....
many of the countries in yr current ES GEM is covered in your proposed to get CIMB-PRINCIPAL ASIA PACIFIC DYNAMIC INCOME FUND....
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for Taiwan, South Korea & esp. China/HK, yes. I checked the fact sheets for both, the top holdings for these 2 funds are different except for one company.


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QUOTE(Vanguard 2015 @ May 1 2015, 11:45 AM)
Hi, sifus are all on leave today.

Pending their return, Ponzi 2 OK, can buy. AMB Income Trust gives fantastic return because its volatility is high. One of the debt issuers under the fund defaulted before.

No global fund? You need some exposure to US and Europe. Try CIMB Global Titans or Aberdeen World.

Hope this info helps. Good luck.
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I'm surprised because AMB Income Trust rating is labelled as "1" in FSM. What about Eastspring Bond fund?
My overall UT investment amount is still small. Perhaps after I have more money than I shall consider diversify to US/Europe funds. tongue.gif



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QUOTE(sonicbull @ May 1 2015, 11:52 AM)
for Taiwan, South Korea & esp. China/HK, yes. I checked the fact sheets for both, the top holdings for these 2 funds are different except for one company.
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when the cold winds hits North Asia....
will "this" company be spared?
also I think Ponzi 1 also has some coverage in that region too

yes...as Vanguard said...get some Global that cover US/EU is better for the portfolio...anyway it is still up to individual.
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QUOTE(David83 @ May 1 2015, 08:59 AM)
Another US sell off. Dropped >1%
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Brazil and South Africa’s macroeconomic profiles have weakened since, while India and Indonesia’s have improved, Fitch said in a report Thursday. Turkey’s reliance on external financing remains large, it said.

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QUOTE(sonicbull @ May 1 2015, 11:57 AM)
I'm surprised because AMB Income Trust rating is labelled as "1" in FSM. What about Eastspring Bond fund?
My overall UT investment amount is still small. Perhaps after I have more money than I shall consider diversify to US/Europe funds. tongue.gif
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Good question. You have to ask FSM for the answer why AMB has a risk rating of 1.

Eastspring Bond is one of FSM's Recommmeded Funds but the return can make you ZZZZ. Good for stablisation though.

As long as you are aware of the different inherent risks for each bond fund, you can still buy based on your risk appetite.
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QUOTE(yklooi @ May 1 2015, 10:26 AM)
if one does not have a portfolio yet, or want to reorganize it, know what you want for your portfolio, get them slowly
like the Jedi master teaches...go for the "weakest" one first.
IF the fund is regional/global that has wider mandate (especially those that did not state...example, "The fund will remain invested at 90% at all times") ...Let the FM do the job....
ELSE, one has to be the controller...

a post by forummer j.passing.by at post# 2916 has some of those advise....

https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2466037/+2900

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First of all, don't readily believed all the bs I wrote. tongue.gif But some certain bs do make sense, especially to my self!

I think you're reading that post wrong, no body has any control - not even the FM. It is ridiculous to think the FM has any control over the stock market or has his own crystal ball.

The first and main objective of an unit trust is having as many stocks as possible in the specified market category or sector. All the FM can to do is make a selection of stocks as wide as he could in that specific sector. To widen this FM's selection, an investor can pick several funds within this same market sector as well.

The investor can also diversified into other market sectors. But he need to be aware that with each diversification, whether within or out of the same sector, the diversification averages out the risk, as well as the gains.

Meaning that, if the investor is in a top performing fund in the chosen sector, any other new funds he later adds will dilute the returns. Similarly, if the chosen sector is already a promising sector, any new funds outside the sector will also dilute the returns.

So IMHO (my 2 sens worth of bs), an investor can also do very nicely with a single fund (which he has had carefully selected).

QUOTE(yklooi @ May 1 2015, 10:26 AM)
btw,...I am still struggling to shift, turn and revamp my portfolio till this day..... doh.gif ...
called true live emotional learning based investing.... doh.gif
"By recognising that listening to your emotions when investing can be an innate weakness, you are taking an important step towards a more successful investment experience".

why am I still learning to shift, turn and revamp?
because maybe part of the reason is there.....Why “Buy Low Sell High” Is So Difficult".
http://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/resea...?articleNo=2716
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okay, please pardon as I'm about to be 'busybody' here...

There is only a handful of lessons, tips, insights or whatever you called it, in unit trust investments. Most of the articles I read in the past 2-3 years are repeats of the same matter again and again.

When reading them, one should know who the writers are addressing to - the young investor who is just beginning his working career and beginning investing into unit trusts, or the elderly investor who is also just investing into unit trusts but nearing retirement with a big sum of savings, or investor who started late with his/her savings and has another 2 decades or so towards retirement. Or even a investor who has a very specific financial plan - like savings to buy something in 3 years time.

So if the article is not addressing you, and if its suggestions were followed without much thoughts, one will end up with confusing thoughts after reading several of these articles.

We should also be aware that the articles are at times biased and the writer may be introducing and marketing a new fund, or simply try to drum up sales.

A good example would be the above opinion that a holding a single fund could be as good as, or even better than a widely diversified portfolio of funds. It could be disastrous for you, but it could be very appropriate for a young investor who is just beginning his/her working career, having a right attitude in his/her personal money management, putting aside excess and unneeded money towards retirement from his/her monthly salary into a small cap fund.

The small cap fund could be an aggressive and volatile fund. The young investor could, maybe, have the same investment emotions as you do... but this has nothing to do with emotions, or rather the emotion can be put aside with rational investment 'theory' (or bs.) Which is the past academic studies of the stock market (from the market in USA, obviously, since most financial articles in the internet are from that country) that shows that the small cap sector out performed the S&P 500 index.

The catchword in this single-fund-investment 'theory' to be successful would be 'long term investment'.

"Long term investment' is NOT "buy-once-and-hold" the investment for years, and years.

"Long term investment" is invest or buy regularly, be it monthly or quarterly, for years, and years.

(For those running out of years, this single-fund-investment would not work. icon_rolleyes.gif )

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QUOTE(j.passing.by @ May 1 2015, 03:11 PM)
First of all, don't readily believed all the bs I wrote.  tongue.gif But some certain bs do make sense, especially to my self!

I think you're reading that post wrong, no body has any control - not even the FM. It is ridiculous to think the FM has any control over the stock market or has his own crystal ball.

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rclxms.gif "no body has any control - not even the FM. It is ridiculous to think the FM has any control over the stock market or has his own crystal ball"......but I think one have decisional control over to buy or not to buy into a preferred fund at that market situation hmm.gif

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QUOTE(j.passing.by @ May 1 2015, 03:11 PM)
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The small cap fund could be an aggressive and volatile fund. The young investor could, maybe, have the same investment emotions as you do... but this has nothing to do with emotions, or rather the emotion can be put aside with rational investment 'theory' (or bs.) Which is the past academic studies of the stock market (from the market in USA, obviously, since most financial articles in the internet are from that country) that shows that the small cap sector out performed the S&P 500 index.
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hmm.gif I would refer that as investment preference and not so much as emotion....
to me (may not be to some), emotional investing is the psychology effect of the situation toward oneself, that may lead an investor to make decision that at normal times would understood to be unwise.....
something like this short article..
"It is not only important to understand the risks of the investments you are looking at, but also to understand your personal risk appetite. Sometimes, it is not a matter of what kind of risks you want to take, but a matter of what kind of risks you can take given the circumstances that you are currently in. And the best way to do it is to assess your actual experience in investing.

For instance, you might have thought that you are an aggressive investor who can cope with a high level of risk based on the results of the risk profiling test. However, in practice, if you find that you always panic too soon every time the market dips, and get overly euphoric and pump in more money whenever markets are on a roll, then high-risk investments are not so suitable for you because they are likely to cause you to lose money.

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How about AMAsia Pacific Equity Fund?
Worth to invest?
Seems to given dividends 4 times per year!
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How about AMAsia Pacific Equity Fund?
Worth to invest?
Seems to given dividends 4 times per year!
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actually the terms is Distribution....
pls read post #1...
there is the explanations of why....distribution is "left pocket money goes into right pocket" to a fund.

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actually the terms is Distribution....
pls read post #1...
there is the explanations of why....distribution is "left pocket money goes into right pocket" to a fund.
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QUOTE(chelsea2013 @ May 1 2015, 07:39 PM)
thanks sifu!!!
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mad.gif I am just a lowly messenger, ... tongue.gif
the REAL Sifus is still not back yet from this Labour Day Holiday.  biggrin.gif
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US market rebounced and closed about 1% higher.
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QUOTE(David83 @ May 2 2015, 08:10 AM)
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For those who have China fund for a few years.. whats your reaction to the recent rise? Did you sell or hold? Reason?
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If not will have heart attack!
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2 days no see...already page 8 rclxub.gif
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i'm waiting for it to drop on monday
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Monday Bursa ada buka meh? tongue.gif
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2 days no see...already page 8 rclxub.gif
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Hangovers two days meh?
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Just noticed..  The real sifus will be gone on holidays. Lol. Left here all noob example like me
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haha... real sifu's now pay little attention on UT lei. they diversify to other investment and trading that can get more money!
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http://www.theedgemarkets.com/my/article/f...ay?type=Markets
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QUOTE(nexona88 @ May 2 2015, 04:02 PM)
Fed rate hike in June 'on the table,' two policymakers say blink.gif
http://www.theedgemarkets.com/my/article/f...ay?type=Markets
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Good morning folks. This is an interesting article on how the stock markets can be manipulated.

http://www.thestar.com.my/Business/Busines...tics/?style=biz
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Guys,

I'm trying to move my records from v1.6 to v1.7.

While trying to copy a set of new fund to the placeholder line in v1.7 xls file (copy A17:P22 and insert copied cells to line 195), I get the error "The operation is not allowed. The operation is attempting to shift cells in a table in your worksheet".

Any idea why? I tried the same copy and insert in v1.6 and have no such issues...

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QUOTE(jutamind @ May 3 2015, 11:23 AM)
Guys,

I'm trying to move my records from v1.6 to v1.7.

While trying to copy a set of new fund to the placeholder line in v1.7 xls file (copy A17:P22 and insert copied cells to line 195), I get the error "The operation is not allowed. The operation is attempting to shift cells in a table in your worksheet".

Any idea why? I tried the same copy and insert in v1.6 and have no such issues...
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try this page#55 post #1093
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3509481/+1080
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Happy Wesak Day to those who celebrate... remember to give some to the unfortunate whenever you can.
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yklooi, yes, i'm copying the cells from A17 to P22 and then insert copied cell on line 195, and i got the error.

i tried the same copying of cells from A17 to P22 in v1.6xls and insert copied cell on line 195 and it works.

QUOTE(yklooi @ May 3 2015, 12:01 PM)
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I've added the GST column into the v1.6 xls file and tried to copy the cells and insert copied cells. It failed....dont know why i'm getting this failure...

without the GST column added, i can add new set of fund into the v1.6 xls file.

QUOTE(jutamind @ May 3 2015, 03:44 PM)
yklooi, yes, i'm copying the cells from A17 to P22 and then insert copied cell on line 195, and i got the error.

i tried the same copying of cells from A17 to P22 in v1.6xls and insert copied cell on line 195 and it works.
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Anyone still holding Ponzi 1?
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QUOTE(jutamind @ May 3 2015, 03:44 PM)
yklooi, yes, i'm copying the cells from A17 to P22 and then insert copied cell on line 195, and i got the error.

i tried the same copying of cells from A17 to P22 in v1.6xls and insert copied cell on line 195 and it works.
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QUOTE(jutamind @ May 3 2015, 05:29 PM)
I've added the GST column into the v1.6 xls file and tried to copy the cells and insert copied cells. It failed....dont know why i'm getting this failure...

without the GST column added, i can add new set of fund into the v1.6 xls file.
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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ May 3 2015, 07:02 PM)
Anyone still holding Ponzi 1?
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yes, I do.
increased another 50% allocation 2 weeks ago
now have about 16% HSAQ
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QUOTE(yklooi @ May 3 2015, 07:33 PM)
yes, I do.
increased another 50% allocation 2 weeks ago
now have about 16% HSAQ
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U seems to have confidence in Bursa as I plan to swap Ponzi 1 with Ponzi 2 to reduce xposure in Bursa
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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ May 3 2015, 07:37 PM)
U seems to have confidence in Bursa as I plan to swap Ponzi 1 with Ponzi 2 to reduce xposure in Bursa
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hmm.gif I think there are still some good stocks in Bolehland market....
I don't know who they are, just hope that the FM managed to get those....
as of 31 Mar HSAQ has about 36% in Bolehland...compared to 0% by Ponzi 2.0
HSAQ more on Asia Small cap and Ponzi 2.0 more on Asia Big cap??

if the M'sian MKt keep falling for a week...I may buy into KGF also...

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Hmmmm. Monday still holiday . Anxious to know what will happen to klse. Still drop ..? Or rebound?
hmm..


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Hmmmm. Monday still holiday . Anxious to know what will happen to klse. Still drop ..? Or  rebound?
hmm..
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later tuesday only worry about KLCI.. now enjoy your holiday rclxm9.gif
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QUOTE(yklooi @ May 3 2015, 08:45 PM)
hmm.gif I think there are still some good stocks in Bolehland market....
I don't know who they are, just hope that the FM managed to get those....
as of 31 Mar HSAQ has about 36% in Bolehland...compared to 0% by Ponzi 2.0
HSAQ more on Asia Small cap and Ponzi 2.0 more on Asia Big cap??

if the M'sian MKt keep falling for a week...I may buy into KGF also...
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You got insider info?! tongue.gif.
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You got insider info?!  tongue.gif.
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on what?
the 36%, 0%, more on Asia Small cap or More on Asia Big cap or KGF?
the other one is not applicable as it was started with "If"

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ May 3 2015, 09:01 PM)
later tuesday only worry about KLCI.. now enjoy your holiday  rclxm9.gif
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Lol. Holiday finish d. Tomorrow going back up pg. Zzzz . Scared jam.
Btw. Giraffes are picky bastards. Old leaves they tak hirau. Only young n succulent they eat. Wth.


QUOTE(yklooi @ May 3 2015, 09:35 PM)
on what?
the 36%, 0%, more on Asia Small cap or More on Asia Big cap or KGF?
the other one is not applicable as it was started with "If"
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I think it's the

I think there are still good stocks in boleh land
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Hmmmm

Rumour or. .. hmm. Blanket freeze hiring of civil servants. Hmmm

http://www.malaysia-chronicle.com/index.ph...2#axzz3Z4S7P6Z5
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I think it's the

I think there are still good stocks in boleh land
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hmm.gif "I think there are still good stocks in boleh land"...followed by what sentence?
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QUOTE(IvanWong1989 @ May 3 2015, 10:16 PM)
Hmmmm

Rumour or. .. hmm. Blanket freeze hiring of civil servants. Hmmm

http://www.malaysia-chronicle.com/index.ph...2#axzz3Z4S7P6Z5
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doh.gif if this is true... cry.gif sweat.gif
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QUOTE(IvanWong1989 @ May 3 2015, 10:13 PM)
Lol. Holiday finish d. Tomorrow going back up pg. Zzzz .  Scared jam.
Btw.  Giraffes are picky bastards.  Old leaves they tak hirau.  Only young n succulent they eat. Wth.
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GLCs have been directed to freeze recruitment, increment n bonus since Jan 2015
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GLCs have been directed to freeze recruitment, increment n bonus since Jan 2015
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wow... doh.gif
hmm.gif after this,...what can the gomen do to get people to lent them more $$?
hmm.gif create a few more "Fixed priced funds"...?
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wow... doh.gif
hmm.gif after this,...what can the gomen do to get people to lent them more $$?
hmm.gif create a few more "Fixed priced funds"...?
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Inheritance tax on d way sweat.gif
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Inheritance tax on d way  sweat.gif
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hmm.gif can it be implemented before the next GE?
else too late?
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Inheritance tax on d way  sweat.gif
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p/s: some pipu with "cables" also won't agree to it cool2.gif

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Indian manufacturing growth slows on weaker demand in April, PMI shows
PUBLISHED ON MAY 4, 2015
MUMBAI (Reuters) - Indian manufacturing growth eased in April as domestic demand softened, despite factories cutting prices for the first time in nearly two years, a business survey showed on Monday.
- See more at: http://www.straitstimes.com/news/business/...h.wxkfEb0I.dpuf

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Indian manufacturing growth slows on weaker demand in April, PMI shows
PUBLISHED ON MAY 4, 2015
MUMBAI (Reuters) - Indian manufacturing growth eased in April as domestic demand softened, despite factories cutting prices for the first time in nearly two years, a business survey showed on Monday.
- See more at: http://www.straitstimes.com/news/business/...h.wxkfEb0I.dpuf

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Is there any penalties if i terminate regular savings plan within 2 month ?
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Hi All,

Is there any penalties if i terminate regular savings plan within 2 month ?
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Is there any penalties if i terminate regular savings plan within 2 month ?
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http://www.cnbc.com/id/102643551
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QUOTE(jutamind @ May 3 2015, 11:23 AM)
Guys,

I'm trying to move my records from v1.6 to v1.7.

While trying to copy a set of new fund to the placeholder line in v1.7 xls file (copy A17:P22 and insert copied cells to line 195), I get the error "The operation is not allowed. The operation is attempting to shift cells in a table in your worksheet".

Any idea why? I tried the same copy and insert in v1.6 and have no such issues...
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QUOTE(jutamind @ May 3 2015, 03:44 PM)
yklooi, yes, i'm copying the cells from A17 to P22 and then insert copied cell on line 195, and i got the error.

i tried the same copying of cells from A17 to P22 in v1.6xls and insert copied cell on line 195 and it works.
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QUOTE(yklooi @ May 3 2015, 07:31 PM)
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When you copy from v1.6 file to v1.7; don't select A:P (example A17 to P22); but instead, only select A:I (example: A17 to I22)! As the rest of the columns are either contains formula; or are not available in v1.6 (example the GST column).

Also, never ever replace formula's in different spreadsheet as the formula's might have been updated, and overriding them will cause the spreadsheet to be using wrong / old formula. Always stick with the white columns (data entry columns) only.



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polarbearz, I've just tried to copy the cells from A3 to I11 from the v1.7 xls file and then insert copied cells on line 195. i was prompted to whether Shift cells right or Shift cells down. I chose the Shift cells down option and yet i still get the same error.

QUOTE(polarzbearz @ May 4 2015, 05:31 PM)
When you copy from v1.6 file to v1.7; don't select A:P (example A17 to P22); but instead, only select A:I (example: A17 to I22)! As the rest of the columns are either contains formula; or are not available in v1.6 (example the GST column).

Also, never ever replace formula's in different spreadsheet as the formula's might have been updated, and overriding them will cause the spreadsheet to be using wrong / old formula. Always stick with the white columns (data entry columns) only.
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QUOTE(yklooi @ May 3 2015, 07:45 PM)
hmm.gif I think there are still some good stocks in Bolehland market....

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Which stocks icon_question.gif
I have been trying to identify good stocks in Bursa Malaysia which are still reasonably priced smile.gif

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Which stocks  icon_question.gif
I have been trying to identify good stocks which are still reasonably priced  smile.gif
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googled and found this....but not sure they are reasonably priced to you liking. biggrin.gif
hope they are "truly" good as they are predicted to be. tongue.gif

Fund managers’ stock picks
http://www.thestar.com.my/Business/Busines...uati/?style=biz

Public Watchlist & Portfolio
http://klse.i3investor.com/jsp/pfpub.jsp

Budget 2015: Which Stocks to Watch?
http://financemalaysia.blogspot.com/2014/1...s-to-watch.html

KENANGA 2015 Stock pick oh KENANGA 2015 Stock pick
http://ck5354.blogspot.com/2015/01/kenanga...nanga-2015.html

more upon google.... icon_rolleyes.gif

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QUOTE(yklooi @ May 4 2015, 08:10 PM)
googled and found this....but not sure they are reasonably priced to you liking.  biggrin.gif
hope they are "truly" good as they are predicted to be.  tongue.gif

Fund managers’ stock picks
http://www.thestar.com.my/Business/Busines...uati/?style=biz

Public Watchlist & Portfolio
http://klse.i3investor.com/jsp/pfpub.jsp

Budget 2015: Which Stocks to Watch?
http://financemalaysia.blogspot.com/2014/1...s-to-watch.html

KENANGA 2015 Stock pick oh KENANGA 2015 Stock pick
http://ck5354.blogspot.com/2015/01/kenanga...nanga-2015.html

more upon google....  icon_rolleyes.gif
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January news, not updated lah...
Maybank recommended pek moh's CMS, with TP RM4.80. Last week its price was already 5.07 doh.gif
MIDF CEO recommended PRESBHD (which I already own), when its price was RM1.50. Last week it closed at RM2.50 sweat.gif
Aberdeen MD recommended AEON. I sold mine recently, as I was disappointed by its results. (I used the money to buy Ponzi 2.0 instead.)

Lee Sook Yee picked IFCA MSC hmm.gif

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January news, not updated lah...
Maybank recommended pek moh's CMS, with TP RM4.80. Last week its price was already 5.07  doh.gif
MIDF CEO recommended PRESBHD (which I already own), when its price was RM1.50. Last week it closed at RM2.50  sweat.gif
Aberdeen MD recommended AEON. I sold mine recently, as I was disappointed by its results. (I used the money to buy Ponzi 2.0 instead.)

Lee Sook Yee picked IFCA MSC  hmm.gif
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polarbearz, I've just tried to copy the cells from A3 to I11 from the v1.7 xls file and then insert copied cells on line 195. i was prompted to whether Shift cells right or Shift cells down. I chose the Shift cells down option and yet i still get the same error.
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When you copy those cells, do you already have enough 'rows' (placeholders) equivalent to number of rows / data you are copying?

If yes, it shouldn't even pop up to shift cells because you are merely replacing the dummy data in new file, with figures in the old sheet.
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President Vladimir Putin approved a new $100 billion reserve fund over the weekend that will specifically aid the BRICS nations: Brazil, Russia, India China and South Africa.
It's another step by the BRICS to build an alternative so they don't have to go to the United States or the International Monetary Fund for any financial help.
The reserve fund will help BRICS countries with cash problems. It will get most of its seed funding from China, which will contribute $41 billion. Russia, India and Brazil will put in $18 billion each, and South Africa will give $5 billion. The timing is critical as many emerging market nations and businesses are struggling to pay their debt for various reasons.

http://money.cnn.com/2015/05/04/news/econo...x.html?iid=Lead

hmm.gif BRIC anyone? AmBRIC or TA BRIC?
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here is a good read for those that likes India...

India is looking like the success story of 2015.
India is world's fastest growing major economy. Can it last?

Last week, Moody's raised India's credit rating outlook -- a sign of a healthy economy.
Smithie says that corporate earnings growth in India is in the single-digit range this year, and is expected to hit the mid-teens next year. By comparison, America's corporate earnings growth is projected to decline this year.
"India is taking over the baton of leadership in emerging market and possibly global growth from China," he says. "There is the potential for an acceleration in growth in India whereas the rest of the world is still slowing down."

For those that are still thinking if it is too late to "ENTER"?
Too late to invest? The usual problem with growth stories is that it's usually too late join the party. But India hasn't peaked yet. In fact, it could be heading toward a multi-year bull market, experts say.

http://money.cnn.com/2015/04/14/investing/...growing/?iid=EL
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some things to wonder about for HIGH risk High returns....

Holders of perpetual notes with no set maturity face the island's first redemption options in September, when three companies including oil services firms Ezra Holdings Ltd. and Swiber Holdings Ltd. can choose to repay securities sold in 2012. While Ezra says it plans to pay off the notes and refinance, their yield has surged more than 200 basis points over the last year to 14.2 per cent, suggesting it may be costlier to replace them. Swiber faces the same test after saying it plans to redeem its bonds, which have added more than 230 basis points.

( hmm.gif if costlier to replace them,...then may not redeem?)

If any issuers choose not to pay in September, "there would be some discomfort among investors when they realize that what they've been holding is not necessarily going to be paid off at the time they expected," said Vishal Goenka, the Singapore-based head of local currency credit trading at Deutsche Bank. "There is nothing right or wrong, issuers have already told them from the beginning the option was there, but there would be some confusion."

- See more at: http://www.straitstimes.com/news/business/...h.qetC2Pqi.dpuf
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QUOTE(yklooi @ May 5 2015, 07:00 AM)
here is a good read for those that likes India...

India is looking like the success story of 2015.
India is world's fastest growing major economy. Can it last?

Last week, Moody's raised India's credit rating outlook -- a sign of a healthy economy.
Smithie says that corporate earnings growth in India is in the single-digit range this year, and is expected to hit the mid-teens next year. By comparison, America's corporate earnings growth is projected to decline this year.
"India is taking over the baton of leadership in emerging market and possibly global growth from China," he says. "There is the potential for an acceleration in growth in India whereas the rest of the world is still slowing down."

For those that are still thinking if it is too late to "ENTER"?
Too late to invest? The usual problem with growth stories is that it's usually too late join the party. But India hasn't peaked yet. In fact, it could be heading toward a multi-year bull market, experts say.

http://money.cnn.com/2015/04/14/investing/...growing/?iid=EL
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polarbearz, i tried to copy from A3 to I11 and insert copied cells into line 23 (which should have more lines than the lines I'm copying from) and yet still get the error.

can you try it on your template file and see whether you got the error?

QUOTE(polarzbearz @ May 5 2015, 12:54 AM)
When you copy those cells, do you already have enough 'rows' (placeholders) equivalent to number of rows / data you are copying?

If yes, it shouldn't even pop up to shift cells because you are merely replacing the dummy data in new file, with figures in the old sheet.
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Today im planning to do the following (but depends on how the market performs by noon):

1) Top up Manulife India Equity fund
2) Go in Affin Hwang Japan Growth Fund

What do you guys think? hmm.gif

My current portfolio:

RHB-OSK Big Cap China Enterprise - 25%
CIMB Principle Asia Pacific Dynamic Income - 20%
Kenanga Growth Fund - 15%
Manulife India Equity - 15%
CIMB Global Titans - 15%
Aberdeen Islamic World Equity - 10%

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ppl here will say too late to get out laugh.gif
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hmm.gif maybe to some????
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Today im planning to do the following (but depends on how the market performs by noon):

1) Top up Manulife India Equity fund
2) Go in Affin Hwang Japan Growth Fund

What do you guys think?  hmm.gif

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http://markets.on.nytimes.com/research/mar...et&exchange=TYO
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AmBRIC please.  biggrin.gif
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hmm.gif throw my China-India for this?
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Your call Mr. Looi. In terms of past performance, Sharpe ratio and annualised volatility, AmBRIC kalah teruk compared to RHB OSK China India Fund. AmBRIC only outperformed RHB CIF this year.

RHB CIF is currently bleeding while AmBRIC is on an upward trend. The only advantage of AmBRIC is that it has a heavy exposure to Russia at 24.20%.

I am going to invest in AmBRIC. As usual, I will restrict it to not more than 5% of my portfolio with a short term to mid-term holding view.

P/S: For even more excitement, you may consider investing in FSM Singapore. They have a 100% Russian equity fund. biggrin.gif

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After Rising 25%, Indian Bull Market Could Run for Years
http://online.barrons.com/articles/after-r...ears-1430534131

Top five factors why Indian market surged 479 points, its biggest gain in a month

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/market...ow/47148879.cms

Question here is will we see more downside this week due to profit taking activities after the jump on Sensex on Monday?




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QUOTE(Vanguard 2015 @ May 5 2015, 10:10 AM)
Your call Mr. Looi. In terms of past performance, Sharpe ratio and annualised volatility, AmBRIC kalah teruk compared to RHB OSK China India Fund. AmBRIC only outperformed RHB CIF this year.

RHB CIF is currently bleeding while AmBRIC is on an upward trend. The only advantage of AmBRIC is that it has a heavy exposure to Russia at 24.20%.

I am going to invest in AmBRIC. As usual, I will restrict it to not more than 5% of my portfolio with a short term to mid-term holding view.

P/S:  For even more excitement, you may consider investing in FSM Singapore. They have a 100% Russian equity fund.  biggrin.gif
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I've also a small holding in Russia (just under 5% of portfolio, not through FSM) definitely a volatile one!
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the target fund United Asian Bond Fund also kena-wor...

Bid to Bid Returns
Period
1 wk  1 MTH  3 MTH  6 MTH    YTD

SGD (%)
-3.15  -3.2    -1.36    2.92      1.14

maybe this Bond report dated 23 Apr can shred some light
https://secure.fundsupermart.com.hk/hk/main...&articleNo=9666
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Missed  the window to buy last Thursday, should I still jump in? SGD recovered quite a bit against MYR  hmm.gif
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see the latest SGD MYR chart...1 week 0.4%....big impact to your decision to jump in?
https://secure.fundsupermart.com/main/artic...-May-2015-10303
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Hmm... sifus.. i'll be entering Kenanga Today. Confidence in it's past record perhaps. haha. flex.gif

Will dump more into Ponzi 2.0 today also i think. hmmmm hmm.gif

Good move or stupid move. Haha. Uncertain.

So far only fund i have on hand is Ponzi 2.0.




Should I start to look into some stable bond funds to a majority of my FD savings in?
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hi sifus, any good recommendation for india funds? hope im not too late to jump into the party haha...
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Should I start to look into some stable bond funds to a majority of my FD savings in?
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see page # 6, post # 101...
no scare meh, bond also got its risks abeit lower than Equities. tongue.gif
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see page # 6, post # 101...
no scare meh, bond also got its risks abeit lower than Equities.  tongue.gif
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I forgot bout that picture.... sea of red....


hmmm...... sweat.gif sweat.gif sweat.gif


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hi sifus, any good recommendation for india funds? hope im not too late to jump into the party haha...
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there is only 1 India focused fund in FSM.
others are (China-India), (China, India, Indonesia), (Brazil, Russia, India, China), (GEM) & etc.
Use the fund selector tool in the FSM to seek them out.

NOT too late to party..according to article in page# 11 post# 211
but just remember to get out of the party before it is over.... brows.gif

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hmmm cimbclicks fpx down...
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Hmm... sifus.. i'll be entering Kenanga Today. Confidence in it's past record perhaps. haha.  flex.gif
U should hold off KGF and observe the KLSE for this week.
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U should hold off KGF and observe the KLSE for this week.
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U should hold off KGF and observe the KLSE for this week.
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why? b'cos of twin bi-election this week?  hmm.gif
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i forgot about the bi-elections....
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QUOTE(IvanWong1989 @ May 5 2015, 11:18 AM)
Hmm... sifus.. i'll be entering Kenanga Today. Confidence in it's past record perhaps. haha.  flex.gif

Will dump more into Ponzi 2.0 today also i think. hmmmm  hmm.gif

Good move or stupid move. Haha. Uncertain.

So far only fund i have on hand is Ponzi 2.0.
Should I start to look into some stable bond funds to a majority of my FD savings in?
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Good luck. Follow John Bogle's principle. If you are investing RM10k, please don't dump one lump sum into KGF. Break it into 4 or 5 equal monthly payments and invest via DCA into KGF.

If you are investing RM1K to RM2K, then it does not matter. thumbup.gif
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Good luck. Follow John Bogle's principle. If you are investing RM10k, please don't dump one lump sum into KGF. Break it into 4 or 5 equal monthly payments and invest via DCA into KGF.

If you are investing RM1K to RM2K, then it does not matter.  thumbup.gif
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hmm.gif "What if" the RM 10k is just like small change to those people like you and RM 1~2k is like a wheel of a Bull log cart to those people like me? same principal like the above applies too? tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Vanguard 2015 @ May 5 2015, 11:52 AM)
Good luck. Follow John Bogle's principle. If you are investing RM10k, please don't dump one lump sum into KGF. Break it into 4 or 5 equal monthly payments and invest via DCA into KGF.

If you are investing RM1K to RM2K, then it does not matter.  thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(T231H @ May 5 2015, 11:57 AM)
hmm.gif "What if" the RM 10k is just like small change to those people like you and RM 1~2k is like a wheel of a Bull log cart to those people like me? same principal like the above applies too?  tongue.gif
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Hmm.. what if the 2k is my princess. XD

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QUOTE(T231H @ May 5 2015, 11:57 AM)
hmm.gif "What if" the RM 10k is just like small change to those people like you and RM 1~2k is like a wheel of a Bull log cart to those people like me? same principal like the above applies too?  tongue.gif
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Eh, I dunno-lah bro.

I thought the minimum initial investment for KGF is RM1000. So, cannot DCA the RM1000 anymore and break it into another 4 equal payments. tongue.gif

P/S: If RM10K only equals RM1000 for some high value investors, then by all means, dump it one lump sum into KGF. rclxms.gif

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CONSTRUCTION

Chinese skyscraper: 57 floors in 19 days

The building in China of a 57-floor skyscraper in 19 days at the rate of 3 stories per day

http://www.bangkokpost.com/learning/learni...ime-lapse-video


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just for general knowledge.....

CONSTRUCTION

Chinese skyscraper: 57 floors in 19 days

The building in China of a 57-floor skyscraper in 19 days at the rate of 3 stories per day

http://www.bangkokpost.com/learning/learni...ime-lapse-video
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I re-produce here the reply which I received from FSM today for your info.

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Dear XXX,

Thanks for the email.

The fund invests in Asia region and focusing on China credits which normally is higher risk as compare to local credits. We believe the performance is the normal fluctuation for the fund as we did not receive any news on default bond paper.

We will monitor closely on any latest news and shall notify you if there is any updates on this fund.

Please do not hesitate to contact us if you need any assistance.

Thank you and have a pleasant day.

Regards,

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Hotline: (03) 2149 0567
Email: investhelp.my@fundsupermart.com

From: XXX
Sent: Tuesday, 5 May, 2015 12:33 PM
To: 'FSM - Client Investment Specialist'
Cc: XXX
Subject: RE: RHB-OSK Asian Total Return Fund

Dear Sir/Madam,

I noticed that the NAV of the RHB-OSK Asian Total Return Fund in my portfolio has been declining steadily for the past 2 weeks. I fully understand that it has a risk rating of 4 and therefore the price may fluctuate.

I just wish to confirm from FSM that none of the debt or bond issuers under the said Fund has defaulted in payment.

Thank you.

Best regards,

XXX
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RHB-OSK Asian Total Return Fund

I re-produce here the reply which I received from FSM today for your info.
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Very red day for China today
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What goes up, must come down. hahaha.


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RBA cut rates. AUD up.
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But surprising AUD dropped after rate cut

QUOTE(nexona88 @ May 5 2015, 04:29 PM)
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Idea of the Week: Fund Managers' Views on the Recent Chinese Market April 30, 2015

http://www.fundsupermart.com.hk/hk/main/re...?articleNo=9695



While the situation in Russia still remains weak, expected returns are now higher than bef ore, and hence, we are upgrading
Russia’s star ratings to 4.5 stars “Very Attractive” – the Russian equity market is a buying opportunity for aggressive, patient, and long-term investors willing to
stomach and ride out near-term volatility

Still more positive on Asia ex-Japan and the Emerging Markets
A continued disparity in valuations dictates that a more positive view on the Emerging Markets versus the developed markets is still warranted, and
we are maintaining a 5.0 star rating on both Asia ex-Japan and the Emerging Markets (where we expect the market to deliver strong returns over
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Monthly Global Market Update April 2015 April 30, 2015

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QUOTE(jutamind @ May 5 2015, 09:20 AM)
polarbearz, i tried to copy from A3 to I11 and insert copied cells into line 23 (which should have more lines than the lines I'm copying from) and yet still get the error.

can you try it on your template file and see whether you got the error?
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Nope, there are no errors.

Basically when you paste it, just make sure you are pasting it as values onto EXISTING cells, not trying to paste and let excel "Create" these new cells for you.

Below is an illustration on how to copy-and-paste.



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Portfolio update as of April 2015:

FUND ROI (%)
Affin Hwang PRS Moderate Fund 12.1
Kenanga OnePRS Growth Fund 5.3
CIMB-Principal PRS Plus Asia Pacific Ex Japan Equity - Class C -1.3
Aberdeen Islamic World Equity Fund - Class A 30.3
Affin Hwang Select Asia (Ex Japan) Quantum Fund 14.9
CIMB-Principal Asia Pacific Dynamic Income Fund 24.8
CIMB-Principal Global Titans Fund 19.1
Eastspring Investments Asia Pacific Ex-Japan Target Return Fund 2.2
Kenanga Asia Pacific Total Return Fund -1.1
Affin Hwang Select Asia (Ex Japan) Opportunity Fund -1.8
RHB-OSK China-India Dynamic Growth Fund -8.8

Portfolio ROI: 9.3%, IRR: 4.0%

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Portfolio update as of April 2015:
RHB-OSK China-India Dynamic Growth Fund -8.8
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I thought you had already disposed of this one..
hmm.gif disposed but just for last month records?
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I thought you had already disposed of this one..
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I just bought it last month. doh.gif

The one that I disposed is RHB-OSK-GS US Equity Fund

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polarbeaz, thanks for the screen shot which is showing how to add more lines into a fund. what i'm trying to do and having error is how to add a new set of fund into Investment Details worksheet.

i tried the steps you listed in the Instructions worksheet and i got the error that I've mentioned earlier. would it be possible to create the screen shot as per what you did in the previous post?

sorry to bother u....

PS: this is what i did and get the errors:

1. select cell A3 to I11 (shown in Step 1.jpg)
2. right click on Line 23 and select insert copied cells and get prompted for Shift cells down (shown in Step 2.jpg)
3. Select Shift cells down and get the error shown in Step 3.jpg)

QUOTE(polarzbearz @ May 5 2015, 05:22 PM)
Nope, there are no errors.

Basically when you paste it, just make sure you are pasting it as values onto EXISTING cells, not trying to paste and let excel "Create" these new cells for you.

Below is an illustration on how to copy-and-paste.
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Portfolio update as of April 2015:

FUND ROI (%)
Kenanga Asia Pacific Total Return Fund -1.1

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I tot this one have been climbing up, why negative ? Must be very recent addition ?
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I tot this one have been climbing up, why negative ? Must be very recent addition ?
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Investors flee US stocks at financial-crisis levels

Many investors appeared to ditch American stock funds in April, in the biggest exodus since the financial crisis. But far from taking that as a bad sign, some investors view the news as an indication that stocks have more room to run.

In April, U.S. equity mutual funds and ETFs saw outflows of $35.8 billion, according to TrimTabs. That's the biggest move away from American stocks since October 2008. And the bearish tone is confirmed by the flows in the leveraged ETF space, where leveraged short ETFs saw an increase in assets of 4.6 percent, while leveraged long ETFs saw assets dip by 2.5 percent.

URL: http://finance.yahoo.com/news/investors-fl...-100000083.html
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Investors flee US stocks at financial-crisis levels

Many investors appeared to ditch American stock funds in April, in the biggest exodus since the financial crisis. But far from taking that as a bad sign, some investors view the news as an indication that stocks have more room to run.

In April, U.S. equity mutual funds and ETFs saw outflows of $35.8 billion, according to TrimTabs. That's the biggest move away from American stocks since October 2008. And the bearish tone is confirmed by the flows in the leveraged ETF space, where leveraged short ETFs saw an increase in assets of 4.6 percent, while leveraged long ETFs saw assets dip by 2.5 percent.

URL: http://finance.yahoo.com/news/investors-fl...-100000083.html
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QUOTE(David83 @ May 5 2015, 08:32 PM)
Portfolio update as of April 2015:

FUND ROI (%)
Affin Hwang PRS Moderate Fund 12.1
Kenanga OnePRS Growth Fund 5.3
CIMB-Principal PRS Plus Asia Pacific Ex Japan Equity - Class C -1.3
Aberdeen Islamic World Equity Fund - Class A 30.3
Affin Hwang Select Asia (Ex Japan) Quantum Fund 14.9
CIMB-Principal Asia Pacific Dynamic Income Fund 24.8
CIMB-Principal Global Titans Fund 19.1
Eastspring Investments Asia Pacific Ex-Japan Target Return Fund 2.2
Kenanga Asia Pacific Total Return Fund -1.1
Affin Hwang Select Asia (Ex Japan) Opportunity Fund -1.8
RHB-OSK China-India Dynamic Growth Fund -8.8
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Nice return David. May I know how long you had this portfolio or has been investing in FSM to earn this ROI?
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Nice return David. May I know how long you had this portfolio or has been investing in FSM to earn this ROI?
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Which fund are you referring?

Each fund has different date.

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Which fund are you referring?

Each fund has different date.
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I was referring to Aberdeen World, CiMB Global Titans and Ponzi 2.

BTW, do you actually keep track of the IRR and CAGR? Personally, I don't.
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QUOTE(Vanguard 2015 @ May 5 2015, 10:03 PM)
I was referring to Aberdeen World, CiMB Global Titans and Ponzi 2.

BTW, do you actually keep track of the IRR and CAGR? Personally, I don't.
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1. AIWEF: January 2013, CIMB GTF: July 2013, Ponzi 2.0: April 2013

2. Yes. In monthly basis and simple IRR tracking only.
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QUOTE(David83 @ May 5 2015, 10:06 PM)
1. AIWEF: January 2013, CIMB GTF: July 2013, Ponzi 2.0: April 2013

2. Yes. In monthly basis and simple IRR tracking only.
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@jutamind

no expert but your second image has

AMB Income Trust Fund
Dummy Fund A
and you tried to paste on this row.

but the original template should be
you try to paste on this row <--- at least how i do it
CIMB-Principal Asia Pacific Dynamic Income Fund
AMB Income Trust Fund
Dummy Fund A
Fund A with MANY rows for U to Use
Fund B many rows.. Self copy
PLACEHOLDER: DO NOT TOUCH

your first image - i believe you are not suppose to copy row 11?
CIMB-Principal Asia Pacific Dynamic Income Fund at row 11 is default and present in original template and has formula etc? <-- everyone has this row in their template.

maybe you should download a fresh template again and start over.

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Sifu sekalian.... anybody here knows what website that summarizes all the company fundamentals for klse?

Such as P/E, ROE, EPS, NTA, Debt Ratio, etc? blush.gif




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back on topic,

Vanguard sifu, your opinion is hold on entering KGF at least after this week?


hmm.gif Aberdeen caught my attention though..... skimming through now........ Greece has paid their pensions and wages.... 12 May deadline to pay looming lol hmm.gif
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Indian tax authorities suffered a setback on Tuesday in their efforts to impose a so-called minimum alternative tax (MAT) on foreign investors, as UK-based Aberdeen Asset Management won temporary relief from a tax bill it was facing.

US and European investor groups last month called for the Indian government to clarify its tax regime for foreigners following surprise attempts by tax inspectors to impose MAT, which some tax experts say could leave international funds and banks with bills of as much as US$8bil (RM28.87bil).

Aberdeen had filed its challenge with the High Court of Bombay in response to a claim for a MAT payment of about 2 million rupees (RM113,784) for one of its funds, said a lawyer involved in the case.

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QUOTE(IvanWong1989 @ May 5 2015, 10:38 PM)
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Sifu sekalian.... anybody here knows what website that summarizes all the company fundamentals  for klse?

Such as P/E, ROE, EPS, NTA, Debt Ratio, etc?  blush.gif
rclxs0.gif

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just remembered I saw this this morning.
http://www.malaysiastock.biz/Listed-Companies.aspx

not sure if this site is useful....
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QUOTE(David83 @ May 5 2015, 10:06 PM)
1. AIWEF: January 2013, CIMB GTF: July 2013, Ponzi 2.0: April 2013
When your entry was 2013, u still got a good part of the bull run. So your profits there will easily cover the drops end of last year and currently. thumbup.gif

For me since my entry point was end July 2014, I got the full brunt of the stock market drop last year and the current one. So ive experienced 2 downsides and 1 upside (early this year). So overall im still in the red.

Whats your ROI in the 'analyse your portfolio' section?
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back on topic,

Vanguard sifu, your opinion is hold on entering KGF at least after this week?
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QUOTE(T231H @ May 5 2015, 10:43 PM)
just remembered I saw this this morning.
http://www.malaysiastock.biz/Listed-Companies.aspx

not sure if this site is useful....
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Yeah, i used that site too, just thought got a better site. hahah
Funny cause a phone app have more data than a website. . . >< can't brain lol.


QUOTE(T231H @ May 5 2015, 10:56 PM)
...actually it was....see page 12, post 231  tongue.gif
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Now i rmb.. ><.... tongue.gif understood sifus.
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Five factors that could decide what way the Sensex moves next

In the short term, investors should brace for more corrections which could be anywhere in the range of 3-5 per cent on either side, and the second leg of the bull market could start anytime from now and June, say experts.

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/market...ow/47159201.cms

Im waiting for the 'right' moment to pump in more money into Manulife India Equities. NAV price as of last Thurs is the lowest since last year.
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QUOTE(Vanguard 2015 @ May 5 2015, 01:51 PM)
RHB-OSK Asian Total Return Fund

I re-produce here the reply which I received from FSM today for your info.
Most likely cause is the stronger RM in the last 2 weeks of April.



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Im waiting for the 'right' moment to pump in more money into Manulife India Equities. NAV price as of last Thurs is the lowest since last year.
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hmm.gif I think NAV this is not a good indicator for comparison between time.....example one of it is...any distribution between that time period could affect the NAV value.

I would normally use the Chart center under FUNDS INFO.
Chart Center is one useful tool available on FSM platform for all investors. It allows investors to plot funds’ or indices’ performance graphically over a variable time horizon. In our latest effort to add value to our investors, we revamped our chart center to improve its visual appeal and add additional features that can help investors make better informed investment decisions.

http://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/resea...l?articleNo=521
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QUOTE(yklooi @ May 5 2015, 11:40 PM)
hmm.gif I think NAV this is not a good indicator for comparison between time.....example one of it is...any distribution between that time period could affect the NAV value.
Yes I know. But no distribution this year.
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Yes I know. But no distribution this year.
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hmm.gif then must be the Sensex index dropped...
from the chart...it looks like the fund is abit "better" than the index.
hmm.gif 60% in 18 months....impressive hike...


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Mine; after i cashed out half of KGF and AAPEIF on 28.4.15

FUND FSM (%)
Pacific Global Fund 8.46
Am Asia Pac Equity Income Fund 15.76
Am Commoditities Equity -1.83
AmOasis Global Islamic 12.64
Am Precious Metal Fund 2.79
CIMB-Principal Asia Pacific Dynamic Income Fund 25.04
East Spring Invest Small Cap Fund 4.29
Eastspring Investments Asia Pacific Ex-Japan Target Return Fund 4.58
Kenanga Growth Fund 11.9
Affin Hwang Select Asia (Ex Japan) Opportunity Fund 14.45
RHB-OSK Global Equity Fund 15.02
Manulife Indian Equity Fund -0.63
RHB OSK GS US Equity Fund 9.27
RHB-OSK Small cap ooportunity Fund 6.52



FSM =8.97%,
IRR according to polarzbearz's formula =11.72%





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Stocks close sharply lower as bulls fail to hold market milestone

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It's Time to Get Ready for the End of China's Bull Market

The bull market turned 883 days old on Tuesday, topping China’s previous record by 56 days, after a 119 percent surge in the Shanghai Composite Index since December 2012. Even if the advance is measured from June 2013 -- when the gauge narrowly avoided a bear-market drop of 20 percent -- it’s still the second longest since Chinese bourses opened for trading in 1990.

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URL: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/201...ans-saying-sell

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“There’s no need to chase stocks at this level,” said Wei Wei, an analyst at West China Securities Co. in Shanghai. “Lots of stocks are not justified by current prices.”

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It's Time to Get Ready for the End of China's Bull Market

The bull market turned 883 days old on Tuesday, topping China’s previous record by 56 days, after a 119 percent surge in the Shanghai Composite Index since December 2012. Even if the advance is measured from June 2013 -- when the gauge narrowly avoided a bear-market drop of 20 percent -- it’s still the second longest since Chinese bourses opened for trading in 1990.

URL: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/201...ans-saying-sell
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Somehow, reading all these analysis makes me rclxub.gif
On one day, one ANALyst (using Pinky's term) says China's bull run will continue. On the next day, another ANALyst says end of bull run is in sight.

If we were to buy stocks directly, it is best to study the individual stocks rather than the whole market.
If we don't buy stocks directly, I guess we just have to trust the fund managers.
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Somehow, reading all these analysis makes me  rclxub.gif
On one day, one ANALyst (using Pinky's term) says China's bull run will continue. On the next day, another ANALyst says end of bull run is in sight.

If we were to buy stocks directly, it is best to study the individual stocks rather than the whole market.
If we don't buy stocks directly, I guess we just have to trust the fund managers.
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hmm.gif some times it is the mandate that leaves the FM fully invested in "that" market...it cannot pull out even in adverse condition...example....some funds has these statement..."This Fund is a feeder fund that invests at least 95% of its NAV in xxxxx"
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QUOTE(IvanWong1989 @ May 5 2015, 10:38 PM)
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Vanguard sifu, your opinion is hold on entering KGF at least after this week?
hmm.gif  Aberdeen caught my attention though..... skimming through now........ Greece has paid their pensions and wages.... 12 May deadline to pay looming lol  hmm.gif
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I am not a sifu-lah bro although I love to eat seafood. I just an average investor trying to find my way.

My 2 cents worth....there is no right time to buy KGF because market timing is impossible. I assume this fund will form part of your core portfolio. This means you will keep it for more than 2 years. Therefore it does not matter whether the price rise or fall temporarily.

Presently KGF has fallen 1.66% in one week. FSM is offering a 1% sales charge for KGF for this month. This means for every RM10K you invest, you are in fact getting a "discount" of RM266.00.

Is this discount enough for you or are you waiting for more? Can you time the market? biggrin.gif

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jerk,

If you look at the Instructions worksheet on how to add new set of fund to Investment Details, you need to copy both detail and total rows.

What I'm trying to is to insert copied cells the first detail row of any set of fund...but the error is still the same.

no one else having this issue apart from me?

PS: I've downloaded the v1.7 template and still same issue.

QUOTE(jerk @ May 5 2015, 10:36 PM)
@jutamind

no expert but your second image has

AMB Income Trust Fund
Dummy Fund A
and you tried to paste on this row.

but the original template should be 
you try to paste on this row <--- at least how i do it
CIMB-Principal Asia Pacific Dynamic Income Fund
AMB Income Trust Fund
Dummy Fund A
Fund A with MANY rows for U to Use
Fund B many rows.. Self copy
PLACEHOLDER: DO NOT TOUCH

your first image - i believe you are not suppose to copy row 11?
CIMB-Principal Asia Pacific Dynamic Income Fund at row 11 is default and present in original template and has formula etc? <-- everyone has this row in their template.

maybe you should download a fresh template again and start over.
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all bond fund in red?  blink.gif  wat happen ah? rclxub.gif
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Vicious selloff in sovereign bonds spooks Asia stock markets, commodities surge
PUBLISHED ON MAY 6, 2015 9:23 AM
SYDNEY (Reuters) - Asian stocks stumbled on Wednesday in sympathy with weak U.S. and European markets as equities investors were spooked by a vicious selloff in sovereign bonds globally.

The sudden spike in bond yields is being mirrored by an equally rapid rally in resources to suggest investors are becoming less concerned about the danger of deflation.

- See more at: http://www.straitstimes.com/news/business/...h.RQD4mE5t.dpuf

Asian bonds extend global rout as oil climbs
PUBLISHED ON MAY 6, 2015 11:04 AM
WELLINGTON (Bloomberg) - Asian bonds fell, extending a selloff that's erased US$340 billion in value globally, and shares retreated as oil traded above US$60 a barrel.

Yields on 10-year government notes from Australia to Singapore rose at least five basis points by 10:02 a.m. in Hong Kong, after rates on Treasuries increased to an almost two-month high and German bunds slid a seventh day.

- See more at: http://www.straitstimes.com/news/business/...h.CE0oBVas.dpuf
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QUOTE(Vanguard 2015 @ May 6 2015, 10:13 AM)
I am not a sifu-lah bro although I love to eat seafood. I just an average investor trying to find my way.

My 2 cents worth....there is no right time to buy KGF because market timing is impossible. I assume this fund will form part of your core portfolio. This means you will keep it for more than 2 years. Therefore it does not matter whether the price rise or fall temporarily.

Presently KGF has fallen 1.66% in one week. FSM is offering a 1% sales charge for KGF for this month. This means for every RM10K you invest, you are in fact getting a "discount" of RM266.00.

Is this discount enough for you or are you waiting for more? Can you time the market? biggrin.gif
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I don't think I can time the market. Lol. Hmmm...

Well the way you look at another perspective . Since dropped

Can see as having discount hmmm xD

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It's Time to Get Ready for the End of China's Bull Market

The bull market turned 883 days old on Tuesday, topping China’s previous record by 56 days, after a 119 percent surge in the Shanghai Composite Index since December 2012. Even if the advance is measured from June 2013 -- when the gauge narrowly avoided a bear-market drop of 20 percent -- it’s still the second longest since Chinese bourses opened for trading in 1990.

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maybe can last another few months before the market drops hmm.gif it's still not yet reach the previous peak high tongue.gif
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I'd top up Europe now...Asia rallied too much/fast in past 12 months
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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ May 6 2015, 12:01 PM)
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hmm.gif top up by fresh fund or switching from Asia X Jpn funds?

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QUOTE(yklooi @ May 6 2015, 12:08 PM)
hmm.gif top up by fresh fund or switching from Asia X Jpn funds?
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CMF yield dropping liao
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Have a look at JAPAN?
latest 1 May 2015 Market Valuation report...Fair Value is 19....Japan PE is now 16.9

http://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/resea...?articleNo=5804

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We would also like to highlight that the fair PE is considered a subjective number as it is generated internally by the research team, taking into conditions macro and micro economic developments expected to take place. As such, investors who view Japan differently from the research team would award a different fair PE.

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Have a look at JAPAN?
latest 1 May 2015 Market Valuation report...Fair Value is 19....Japan PE is now 16.9

http://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/resea...?articleNo=5804
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QUOTE(yklooi @ May 6 2015, 12:18 PM)
Have a look at JAPAN?
latest 1 May 2015 Market Valuation report...Fair Value is 19....Japan PE is now 16.9

http://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/resea...?articleNo=5804

Please note this disclaimer:  tongue.gif
We would also like to highlight that the fair PE is considered a subjective number as it is generated internally by the research team, taking into conditions macro and micro economic developments expected to take place. As such, investors who view Japan differently from the research team would award a different fair PE.
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Japan? market value is cheaper than fair value hmm.gif
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QUOTE(jutamind @ May 5 2015, 08:54 PM)
polarbeaz, thanks for the screen shot which is showing how to add more lines into a fund. what i'm trying to do and having error is how to add a new set of fund into Investment Details worksheet.

i tried the steps you listed in the Instructions worksheet and i got the error that I've mentioned earlier. would it be possible to create the screen shot as per what you did in the previous post?

sorry to bother u....

PS: this is what i did and get the errors:

1. select cell A3 to I11 (shown in Step 1.jpg)
2. right click on Line 23 and select insert copied cells and get prompted for Shift cells down (shown in Step 2.jpg)
3. Select Shift cells down and get the error shown in Step 3.jpg)
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Basically, using your example (I assume step 1 is old file with manual added gst column)

1) select cell A3 to I10 (not 11!!) and copy these cellw
2) do not right click on line 23. If you have enough empty lines already, just select cell A23 and paste as values (refer previous screenshot)

Basically doing the above, it should not pop the shift cell as long as you have enough rows. The reason you should exclude line 11 because it's a formula row, so do not ever copy it directly.

Let me know if it works.

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QUOTE(Amatiel @ May 2 2015, 09:53 AM)
For those who have China fund for a few years.. whats your reaction to the recent rise? Did you sell or hold? Reason?
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QUOTE(David83 @ May 6 2015, 07:39 AM)
It's Time to Get Ready for the End of China's Bull Market

The bull market turned 883 days old on Tuesday, topping China’s previous record by 56 days, after a 119 percent surge in the Shanghai Composite Index since December 2012. Even if the advance is measured from June 2013 -- when the gauge narrowly avoided a bear-market drop of 20 percent -- it’s still the second longest since Chinese bourses opened for trading in 1990.

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Is a bubble in Chinese stocks being inflated?
Asian Equities Team, Schroders...5 May 2015
an info packed article...
(there is also a comparison table of last bull situation and current bull situation)

http://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/artic...0May%202015.pdf
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QUOTE(yklooi @ May 6 2015, 12:54 PM)
They hear you again....
Is a bubble in Chinese stocks being inflated?
Asian Equities Team, Schroders...5 May 2015
an info packed article...
(there is also a comparison table of last bull situation and current bull situation)

http://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/artic...0May%202015.pdf
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Uncle Looi, what's the conclusion? yawn.gif
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Feeder fund manager for CIMB-PRINCIPAL GREATER CHINA EQUITY FUND

Uncle Looi, what's the conclusion?  yawn.gif
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since it is not a single country fund, Max it 10% of portfolio because most of the the Asia X Jpn funds has high coverage in there too....combined would be high
Was thinking of reducing my China Select fund now at 10% to increase my Japan from 3% to 5%
Overall my China/HK/Taiwan is now 22% (i just noticed it and is thinking too higH)
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QUOTE(yklooi @ May 6 2015, 01:06 PM)
since it is not a single country fund, Max it 10% of portfolio because most of the the Asia X Jpn funds has high coverage in there too....combined would be high
Was thinking of reducing my China Select fund now at 10% to increase my Japan from 3% to 5%
Overall my China/HK/Taiwan is now 22% (i just noticed it and is thinking too higH)
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I was asking for the conclusion of the Schroeder article. doh.gif
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I was asking for the conclusion of the Schroeder article. doh.gif
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i think China can still go for the next 1~2 year.....
the reason why i want to reduce the China exposure is that, "IF" there is a short correction along this 1~2 years....my emotional being would not be so stressful tongue.gif ..well that is just me.....may not apply to others icon_rolleyes.gif
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polarbearz, are the steps you mentioned below only to add more rows into an existing set of fund? the screen shots that you see is from v1.7 xls. i have no problem adding more rows into existing set of fund (according to your screen shots previously).

What i want to do is to add new funds into v1.7 xls file. in v1.7 xls file, you only have 5 sets of funds and a placeholder section.

if i have 10 funds, how do i add another 5 set of funds?

QUOTE(polarzbearz @ May 6 2015, 12:28 PM)
Basically, using your example (I assume step 1 is old file with manual added gst column)

1) select cell A3 to I10 (not 11!!) and copy these cellw
2) do not right click on line 23. If you have enough empty lines already, just select cell A23 and paste as values (refer previous screenshot)

Basically doing the above, it should not pop the shift cell as long as you have enough rows. The reason you should exclude line 11 because it's a formula row, so do not ever copy it directly.

Let me know if it works.
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@jutamind

you mean fund allocation column? with the percentage of country allocation etc?
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SSE Composite slides to RED zone; dropped >1%

Asian stocks at two-week lows as bond woes spread, dollar slips

HONG KONG (Reuters) - A selloff in global sovereign bonds pushed Asian stocks to two-week lows on Wednesday as investors worried it might trigger profit-taking in other asset classes, while the U.S. dollar stayed on the backfoot dogged by trade deficit concerns.

URL: http://finance.yahoo.com/news/slump-bonds-...-005134325.html

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GOOD noises for those that likes Malaysia.
‘Foreign investors unmoved by local 1MDB concerns’
http://www.msn.com/en-my/money/topstories/...d=mailsignoutmd
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GOOD noises for those that likes Malaysia.
‘Foreign investors unmoved by local 1MDB concerns’
http://www.msn.com/en-my/money/topstories/...d=mailsignoutmd
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Foreign investors were net seller for last trading week. yawn.gif
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QUOTE(David83 @ May 6 2015, 03:24 PM)
Foreign investors were net seller for last trading week.  yawn.gif
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QUOTE(David83 @ May 6 2015, 03:24 PM)
Foreign investors were net seller for last trading week.  yawn.gif
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QUOTE(puchongite @ May 6 2015, 03:27 PM)
So should we believe words or we believe actions ?
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hmm.gif what is the value of the outflow?
in % terms against what is still inside here?

“Having said that, we note that foreign funds have been net buyers for five weeks in a row now,” Zulkifli told The Edge Financial Daily in an email interview in mid-April.
- See more at: http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/busines...h.fVbxLcqA.dpuf

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So should we believe words or we believe actions ?
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Believe in numbers and actions.
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And you are already part of the numbers and actions.
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QUOTE(T231H @ May 6 2015, 04:00 PM)
wow
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rclxms.gif MORE choices.....and in USD too

6 New Funds From Cimb-Principal Asset Management
1. CIMB Islamic Asia Pacific Equity Fund - MYR
2. CIMB-Principal ASEAN Total Return Fund - MYR
3. CIMB-Principal ASEAN Total Return Fund - USD
4. CIMB-Principal China-India-Indonesia Equity Fund
5. CIMB-Principal Equity Fund
6. CIMB-Principal Small Cap Fund

http://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/resea...?articleNo=5814


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rclxms.gif MORE choices.....and in USD too

6 New Funds From Cimb-Principal Asset Management
1. CIMB Islamic Asia Pacific Equity Fund - MYR
2. CIMB-Principal ASEAN Total Return Fund - MYR
3. CIMB-Principal ASEAN Total Return Fund - USD
4. CIMB-Principal China-India-Indonesia Equity Fund
5. CIMB-Principal Equity Fund
6. CIMB-Principal Small Cap Fund

http://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/resea...?articleNo=5814
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I have posted the snapshot last two weeks! sweat.gif
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I have posted the snapshot last two weeks! sweat.gif
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Really?...i thought it was just published today...see the date on the article..May 6, 2015
if you have posted it...then it is OLD news. icon_rolleyes.gif

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Really?...i thought it was just published today...see the date on the article..May 6, 2015
if you have posted it...then it is OLD news.  icon_rolleyes.gif
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It has been available since two weeks ago.

They just started to make it more official today. LOL
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QUOTE(David83 @ May 6 2015, 04:32 PM)
It has been available since two weeks ago.

They just started to make it more official today. LOL
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doh.gif now i know...that is why, i think i did see this China, India and Indonesia fund in FSM before. rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(yklooi @ May 6 2015, 04:38 PM)
doh.gif now i know...that is why, i think i did see this China, India and Indonesia fund in FSM before.  rclxms.gif
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That fund was under my wish list previously.

But too bad, I have jumped too early into RHB-OSK China-India Dynamic Fund.
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QUOTE(yklooi @ May 6 2015, 04:25 PM)
rclxms.gif MORE choices.....and in USD too

6 New Funds From Cimb-Principal Asset Management
1. CIMB Islamic Asia Pacific Equity Fund - MYR
2. CIMB-Principal ASEAN Total Return Fund - MYR
3. CIMB-Principal ASEAN Total Return Fund - USD
4. CIMB-Principal China-India-Indonesia Equity Fund
5. CIMB-Principal Equity Fund
6. CIMB-Principal Small Cap Fund

http://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/resea...?articleNo=5814
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Newbie question:
How is 3 different from 2?
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QUOTE(river.sand @ May 6 2015, 05:33 PM)
Newbie question:
How is 3 different from 2?
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well I can see at one u pay in MYR while other in USD..

Min balance for MYR class is 1k units while USD class is 400 units

min Intl investment MYR class is RM500 while other is USD200

min add investment MYR class is RM200 while other is USD100

MYR class have Switching while USD class don't have

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with oil surge ... guess sensex will correct even more down the road ...wait and watch drool.gif , or RSP smile.gif

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Bond market seems to be exciting recently:

Global Bond Rout Halts as Rising Debt Yields Attract Investors

A rally in Italian and Spanish government bonds led a rebound in debt markets around the world after a selloff that wiped out more than $410 billion in value in the past week.

URL http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/201...four-month-high
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The FBM KLCI declined 0.4% on profit taking as a selloff in global sovereign bonds dampened regional share markets.
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http://www.theedgemarkets.com/my/article/k...nt?type=Markets
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QUOTE(jutamind @ May 6 2015, 01:17 PM)
polarbearz, are the steps you mentioned below only to add more rows into an existing set of fund? the screen shots that you see is from v1.7 xls. i have no problem adding more rows into existing set of fund (according to your screen shots previously).

What i want to do is to add new funds into v1.7 xls file. in v1.7 xls file, you only have 5 sets of funds and a placeholder section.

if i have 10 funds, how do i add another 5 set of funds?
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1) The steps I mentioned is to copy the fund details from old spreadsheet to new spreadsheet

2) As you said, the default excel comes with only 5 SET of FUNDS. To add more funds, refer to the guide in the excel file on "How to add new SET of FUNDS".

Basically in a nutshell, what you need to do is:-

1) Go to new excel file, create 5 SET of funds.
2) After you created 5 SET of funds, ensure these total "10 SET of funds" have enough number of "Rows" to accommodate the funds currently in the old spreadsheet.
3) Once you have enough rows (example: Fund 1 = 10 data rows, Fund 2 = 3 data rows, fund 4 = 15 data rows, etc...), copy the fund DATA (exclude subtotal row please), a fund at a time. (example: copy cell A3 to I10 for Fund A, paste in new spreadsheet; then repeat same steps for the rest of the funds).

Technically if you are excel-savvy, you can manually add a column in v1.6 and modify the formulas, but only if you are familiar enough with the file. I'd advise against that and rather copy the funds data 10 times (one set at a time) to avoid errors.
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tomorrow is distribution for Ponzi 2.0
is it best time to top up tomorrow?
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tomorrow is distribution for Ponzi 2.0
is it best time to top up tomorrow?
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hmm.gif I would not, because it will delay my records keeping.....have to wait a few days longer to get the actual revised NAV and revised quantity....
not sure about others....and you wanna top up? why tomorrow?

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QUOTE(chelsea2013 @ May 6 2015, 09:20 PM)
tomorrow is distribution for Ponzi 2.0
is it best time to top up tomorrow?
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No effect on the total value of investment b4 n after distribution
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QUOTE(T231H @ May 6 2015, 09:33 PM)
hmm.gif I would not, because it will delay my records keeping.....have to wait a few days longer to get the actual revised NAV and revised quantity....
not sure about others....and you wanna top up? why tomorrow?
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thanks for the advice...
well...my banker ask me to do so...that's why i have doubt...
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Attractive markets now:-

1. Russia
2. Japan
3. South Korea

Markets getting uglier (?)

1. China

Markets getting attractive (?)

1. India

Comeback kid

1. US

Slow and steady but boring ZZZ

1. Europe

Special category award

1. Malaysia

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thanks for the advice...
well...my banker ask me to do so...that's why i have doubt...
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why not ask your banker, what are the benefits of top up tomorrow (on distribution date)?
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Special category award - Malaysia rclxms.gif

really topkek award laugh.gif
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Eh, what is the meaning of topkek award?

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No effect on the total value of investment b4 n after distribution
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hmm.gif was just wondering where did the TAXES fits into this equation...
value of the total assets in the fund should be more BEFORE the taxes given to gomen during distribution....therefore if no distribution no need to pay taxes then more value in asset, right?
now my mind start to get confused..... rclxub.gif
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Eh, what is the meaning of topkek award?
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Topkek. Lol. This word always use in /k

Top of the kek. Creme de la creme
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it's like really2 good.. Many worship it as a God.. something like tat..  tongue.gif
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good news for INDIA again...
India parliament's lower house passes goods and services tax reform
Published on May 6, 2015
NEW DELHI (REUTERS) - India's lower house of parliament on Wednesday passed a bill that seeks to transform the country into a common market, harmonising state and central levies into a national sales tax which is expected to boost manufacturing.
Jaitley has called the goods and services tax (GST) the biggest reform since independence in 1947 that could add as much as 2 percentage points to the growth of Asia's third-largest economy.
- See more at: http://www.straitstimes.com/news/asia/sout...h.F8WRriQb.dpuf

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QUOTE(T231H @ May 6 2015, 11:09 PM)
good news for INDIA again...
India parliament's lower house passes goods and services tax reform
Published on May 6, 2015
NEW DELHI (REUTERS) - India's lower house of parliament on Wednesday passed a bill that seeks to transform the country into a common market, harmonising state and central levies into a national sales tax which is expected to boost manufacturing.
Jaitley has called the goods and services tax (GST) the biggest reform since independence in 1947 that could add as much as 2 percentage points to the growth of Asia's third-largest economy.
- See more at: http://www.straitstimes.com/news/asia/sout...h.F8WRriQb.dpuf
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QUOTE(T231H @ May 6 2015, 11:09 PM)
good news for INDIA again...
India parliament's lower house passes goods and services tax reform
Published on May 6, 2015
NEW DELHI (REUTERS) - India's lower house of parliament on Wednesday passed a bill that seeks to transform the country into a common market, harmonising state and central levies into a national sales tax which is expected to boost manufacturing.
Jaitley has called the goods and services tax (GST) the biggest reform since independence in 1947 that could add as much as 2 percentage points to the growth of Asia's third-largest economy.
- See more at: http://www.straitstimes.com/news/asia/sout...h.F8WRriQb.dpuf
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Gst.... =-=
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QUOTE(nexona88 @ May 6 2015, 11:13 PM)
lol GST mantra has infiltrated India  shakehead.gif
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according to this article, INDIA already got GST...only the % varies between states
http://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/resea...?articleNo=5689
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QUOTE(T231H @ May 6 2015, 11:18 PM)
according to this article, INDIA already got GST...only the % varies between states
http://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/resea...?articleNo=5689
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wow BolehLand GST rate 2nd lowest rclxms.gif
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I see  blush.gif

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thank ah jib kor?
hmm.gif YET, why the feeling of inflation so high?
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thank ah jib kor?
hmm.gif YET, why the feeling of inflation so high?
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Yellen cites 'potential dangers' in U.S. stock valuations

(Reuters) - Federal Reserve Chair Janet Yellen on Wednesday said high equity valuations could pose potential dangers but that stability risks across the U.S. financial system remained in check.

"I would highlight that equity market valuations at this point generally are quite high," Yellen said. "There are potential dangers there."

......Another potential trouble spot that Yellen pointed out was low long-term interest rates, which could spike as the Fed normalizes its policy, causing disruption across the financial system.

“When the Fed decides it’s time to begin raising rates, these term premiums could move up and we could see a sharp jump in long-term rates.

......Yellen also noted concerns about potential liquidity problems facing certain asset-managers should they face a wave of redemptions.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/05/06/...N0NR1JI20150506

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Hello sifus,

I am thinking to increase my exposure on China equities, it has been bullish for a while but China market is getting sluggish overall. Did I missed the party or it is still fine to throw myself into it?

Cheers sifus!
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QUOTE(wilc89 @ May 7 2015, 08:08 AM)
Hello sifus,

I am thinking to increase my exposure on China equities, it has been bullish for a while but China market is getting sluggish overall. Did I missed the party or it is still fine to throw myself into it?

Cheers sifus!
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see page# 15, post# 295...then decide after taking into consideration of
do you have a portfolio of funds?
does your portfolio needs more China?
what is your current % allocation in China? (Do includes % from Asia X Jpn funds if you have them)
is the current % enough?

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QUOTE(wilc89 @ May 7 2015, 08:08 AM)
Hello sifus,

I am thinking to increase my exposure on China equities, it has been bullish for a while but China market is getting sluggish overall. Did I missed the party or it is still fine to throw myself into it?

Cheers sifus!
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If China sluggish? How about India then? whistling.gif
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see page# 15, post# 295...then decide after taking into consideration of
do you have a portfolio of funds?
does your portfolio needs more China?
what is your current % allocation in China? (Do includes % from Asia X Jpn funds if you have them)
is the current % enough?
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Hi thanks for the reply. The article link is broken, could not access to it. cry.gif

My exposure (including Asia X Japan) is 7%.


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hmm.gif was just wondering where did the TAXES fits into this equation...
value of the total assets in the fund should be more BEFORE the taxes given to gomen during distribution....therefore if no distribution no need to pay taxes then more value in asset, right?
now my mind start to get confused..... rclxub.gif
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I thought there is no tax imposed on investment income?
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PETALING JAYA: Japan-based Investment Bank Daiwa Securities Group Inc will begin talks to acquire a minority stake in Affin Hwang Investment Bank Bhd (formerly known as HwangDBS Investment Bank Bhd).

URL: http://www.thestar.com.my/Business/Busines...take/?style=biz

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OT: Japan-based Bank Daiwa eyes Affin Hwang IB stake

PETALING JAYA: Japan-based Investment Bank Daiwa Securities Group Inc will begin talks to acquire a minority stake in Affin Hwang Investment Bank Bhd (formerly known as HwangDBS Investment Bank Bhd).

URL: http://www.thestar.com.my/Business/Busines...take/?style=biz
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Well.. The stock market had reacted it seems. Most active trading. Affin counter. Lol
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Hi thanks for the reply. The article link is broken, could not access to it.  cry.gif

My exposure (including Asia X Japan) is 7%.
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try again this link.
http://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/resea...?articleNo=5812

Schroders: Talking Point - Is a Bubble in Chinese Stocks Being Inflated?
it is from FSM MY main page under FUND HOUSE DEPOSITORY

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yes,..but I mean TAXES the FH pay to the govt just before giving you the distribution.
hmm.gif btw,..the FH got pay taxes before giving us the distribution or not?

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Haha true. It's nothing compared to India.
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hmm.gif what happened to India?
my india just made 0.6% in 2 days..... tongue.gif
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hmm.gif what happened to India?
my india just made 0.6% in 2 days..... tongue.gif
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I am currently at about 65% equity funds and 35% bond funds. Time to re-allocate my bond funds into equity funds.
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Fasten your seatbelt for the roller coaster ride and enjoy it bro.  biggrin.gif

Lai, lai. Siapa lagi berani masuk Manulife India sekarang?
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Fasten your seatbelt for the roller coaster ride and enjoy it bro.  biggrin.gif

Lai, lai. Siapa lagi berani masuk Manulife India sekarang?
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Human nature is such, even if you design a very stable portfolio that sits right at the most optimum point on the efficient frontier giving the best risk optimised return... they will still be not happy.

By nature we want to have some unknown, it excites our soul, it tickles our brain... in short, it allows us to be human. It shows our curiosity and willingness to embrace risk and adventure. It is coded into our DNA.

So, take some money and gamble at it... it is good for the soul!

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I just checked my portfolio and my sexy fund is down around 4% from my average buying price (I DCA into sexy over a course of 3 mths liao), with its 1xStd-Dev of 18%, so there is still room for it to drop further. However, I am betting it may swing 18% upwards sometime in the future. Sexy constitute 15% of my equity portfolio at the moment. So a 4% drop of 15% is only 0.6% of my portfolio.


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seems so real....turn ON the sound...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chbjc-XDKLw

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Hope it will work out. biggrin.gif


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I just checked my portfolio and my sexy fund is down around 4% from my average buying price (I DCA into sexy over a course of 3 mths liao), with its 1xStd-Dev of 18%, so there is still room for it to drop further. However, I am betting it may swing 18% upwards sometime in the future. Sexy constitute 15% of my equity portfolio at the moment. So a 4% drop of 15% is only 0.6% of my portfolio.
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Just now, I just switched from AmBon Islam into AMBRIC, topped up AmPrecious Metals, RHB Asian Total Return Fund and EISC.

Now have to start praying. biggrin.gif
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Just now, I just switched from AmBon Islam into AMBRIC, topped up AmPrecious Metals, RHB Asian Total Return Fund and EISC.

Now have to start praying.  biggrin.gif
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Just now, I just switched from AmBon Islam into AMBRIC, topped up AmPrecious Metals, RHB Asian Total Return Fund and EISC.

Now have to start praying.  biggrin.gif
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AmPrecious Metals?.... mmm hmm.gif Can tell me why ah?

I saw it dropped so much.... rclxub.gif hmm.gif hmm.gif Did I miss anything important?
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China’s Stocks Head for Biggest Three-Day Rout Since June 2013

hina’s stocks headed for their worst three-day performance in almost two years amid speculation new share sales will sap funds, valuations have become excessive and the government will take measures to control margin trading.

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Japanese bonds fell the most in three months and Australian government securities slid for an eighth day in the latest leg of a global rout in debt markets.

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AmPrecious Metals?.... mmm  hmm.gif  Can tell me why ah?

I saw it dropped so much....  rclxub.gif   hmm.gif  hmm.gif  Did I miss anything important?
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This is called itchy backside syndrome. When my portfolio was doing OK and before the China market rallied, I thought I wanted some excitement in my portfolio. blush.gif

So I bought into AmPrecious Metals. First time buy in, after 1 month, I made about RM1k plus. So I thought I was the champion. So, second time buy in again. Now, I am trapped already. I will get out from AmPrecious Metals soon once I break even. sweat.gif

So, to cut a long story short......No, you did not miss anything. Please don't touch anything with the name Precious Metals or Commodities in it. tongue.gif

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QUOTE(Vanguard 2015 @ May 7 2015, 02:26 PM)
This is called itchy backside syndrome. When my portfolio was doing OK and before the China market rallied, I thought I wanted some excitement in my portfolio.  blush.gif

So I bought into AmPrecious Metals. First time buy in, after 1 month, I made about RM1k plus. So I thought I was the champion. So, second time buy in again. Now, I am trapped already.  I will get out from AmPrecious Metals soon once I break even.  sweat.gif

So, to cut a long story short......No, you did not miss anything. Don't touch anything with the name Precious Metals or Commodities in it.  tongue.gif
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Nvm.... Everyone sure have itchy backside syndrome... see when only... laugh.gif laugh.gif rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(Vanguard 2015 @ May 7 2015, 02:26 PM)
This is called itchy backside syndrome. When my portfolio was doing OK and before the China market rallied, I thought I wanted some excitement in my portfolio.  blush.gif

So I bought into AmPrecious Metals. First time buy in, after 1 month, I made about RM1k plus. So I thought I was the champion. So, second time buy in again. Now, I am trapped already.  I will get out from AmPrecious Metals soon once I break even.  sweat.gif

So, to cut a long story short......No, you did not miss anything. Please don't touch anything with the name Precious Metals or Commodities in it.  tongue.gif
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Commodities is soooooo passe! It was so yesterday... Today is China! China! China! And tomorrow... according to my crystal ball may be Eurozone (QE effect mah!)

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Just now, I just switched from AmBon Islam into AMBRIC, topped up AmPrecious Metals, RHB Asian Total Return Fund and EISC.

Now have to start praying.  biggrin.gif
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y top up AmPrecious?
I cut loss some when my portfolio shows -20% and the balance now is at
is at -55% lor...

dun think its advisable to go into Amprecious now unless got news GOLD IS MOVING UPWARDS!

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y top up AmPrecious?
I cut loss some when my portfolio shows -20% and the balance now is at
is at -55% lor...

dun think its advisable to go into Amprecious now unless got news GOLD IS MOVING UPWARDS!
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Walao, your paper loss is really...unbelievable. I feel for you.

What to do. I managed to bring down my paper loss from about -10% to about -4.45% currently by using DCA and Value Averaging. But you are right. Gold has a mind of its own. It is resistant to any change. I think this is my last top up for AmPrecious Metals. sweat.gif

The general consensus is that the price of spot gold need to move up above $1200 an ounce to create some momentum. But it is now still hovering around $1182.49.
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QUOTE(xuzen @ May 7 2015, 03:04 PM)
Commodities is soooooo passe! It was so yesterday... Today is China! China! China! And tomorrow... according to my crystal ball may be Eurozone (QE effect mah!)

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Tell that to Jim Rogers please. He is a big fan of commodities. biggrin.gif
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KLCI dropped 15.87 pts...in % terms = ?
wondering how much KLCI Small Cap index dropped? hmm.gif
in % terms?

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KLCI dropped 15.87 pts...in % terms = ?
wondering how much KLCI Small Cap index dropped?  hmm.gif
in % terms?
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well for KLCI it's -0.88% to 1805.10pts

FBMSCAP is -24.17 (-0.15%) to 16,527.58pts

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well for KLCI it's -0.88% to 1805.10pts

FBMSCAP is  -24.17 (-0.15%) to 16,527.58pts

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hmm.gif small cap got support?
EISC ? brows.gif
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hmm.gif small cap got support?
EISC ?  brows.gif
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World stocks, dollar swept lower as bond rout rocks markets

LONDON (Reuters) - World financial markets were unsettled again on Thursday as a week-long sell-off in benchmark government bonds, stocks and the dollar and a race up in oil prices showed little sign of relenting.

Nerves were still jangling in Europe and shares and bonds got off to another poor start on fears the recent surge in yields, the euro and energy costs could snuff out the only recently-formed hopes of a solid euro zone recovery.

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KLCI dropped 15.87 pts...in % terms = ?
wondering how much KLCI Small Cap index dropped?  hmm.gif
in % terms?
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Late selling pulls rug under KLCI as it slips toward 1,800 (Update)

KUALA LUMPUR: Late fund selling of heavyweights Tenaga Nasional and Sime Darby and other key index linked stocks pushed the FBM KLCI down nearly 16 points to its lowest since March 23 as sentiment was dented by the weak key Asian markets.

At 5pm, the KLCI was down 15.87 points or 0.87% to 1,805.10 but when compared with the key Asian markets, the losses in percentage terms was much lower due to local fund support.

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Bank Negara keeps OPR unchanged at 3.25%

KUALA LUMPUR: Bank Negara Malaysia’s (BNM) monetary policy committee kept the Overnight Policy Rate (OPR) unchanged at 3.25% as the policy remains accommodative and supportive of economic activity.

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RHB-OSK China-India Dynamic Growth Fund just cross my lower limit of -10% sweat.gif
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Luckily has topped today.
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I recalled this video....
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Referral token.
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QUOTE(techie.opinion @ May 7 2015, 06:05 PM)
Topup time... since yesterday and today. Maybe tomorrow as well.
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Why?? Good timing? icon_question.gif hmm.gif
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QUOTE(chelsea2013 @ May 7 2015, 08:17 PM)
Why?? Good timing?  icon_question.gif  hmm.gif
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Definitely since China and global market are under downward pressure.

US market has been down for two days and Europe market has been down for 3 days.

SSE Composite has erased about 5% for the past two to three days.

Mega sale kicks start. cool2.gif

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Late selling pulls rug under KLCI as it slips toward 1,800 (Update)

KUALA LUMPUR: Late fund selling of heavyweights Tenaga Nasional and Sime Darby and other key index linked stocks pushed the FBM KLCI down nearly 16 points to its lowest since March 23 as sentiment was dented by the weak key Asian markets.

At 5pm, the KLCI was down 15.87 points or 0.87% to 1,805.10 but when compared with the key Asian markets, the losses in percentage terms was much lower due to local fund support.

URL: http://www.thestar.com.my/Business/Busines...1800/?style=biz
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china india dynamic prob have to hold till india recover.

whats your buying price? mine is 0.7490
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@David83

china india dynamic prob have to hold till india recover.

whats your buying price? mine is 0.7490
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Analysts Are Pondering the Big Bond Sell-off

Sharp moves in bonds are leaving big investors dazed and confused.

The last couple of weeks have proven to be quite interesting for bond markets around the world.

Major government debt markets including Germany, the U.S. and the U.K. have seen a dramatic sell-off, sparking stark jumps in bond yields. The sharp moves have left many analysts scratching their heads as to the causes, with the narrative now focusing on the possible return of inflation in the Eurozone and the U.S - a development that would erode the purchasing power of fixed payments on bonds. Still though, the swiftness of the resulting shift out of bonds has caught many analysts, economists and large investors by surprise given that just weeks ago people were paying through the nose to hoard government debt with extremely low yields.

URL: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/201...g-bond-sell-off
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(2) Fund house transfer form ( Please kindly sign on the transferor column only)

(3) Consent Letter

cant seems to find them
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Didn't have time to log on today. But markets took a beating today as well. When will this end? Its this the end of the bull market for China?
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QUOTE(xuzen @ May 7 2015, 11:46 AM)
Human nature is such, even if you design a very stable portfolio that sits right at the most optimum point on the efficient frontier giving the best risk optimised return... they will still be not happy.

By nature we want to have some unknown, it excites our soul, it tickles our brain... in short, it allows us to be human. It shows our curiosity and willingness to embrace risk and adventure. It is coded into our DNA.

So, take some money and gamble at it... it is good for the soul!

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p/s

I just checked my portfolio and my sexy fund is down around 4% from my average buying price (I DCA into sexy over a course of 3 mths liao), with its 1xStd-Dev of 18%, so there is still room for it to drop further. However, I am betting it may swing 18% upwards sometime in the future. Sexy constitute 15% of my equity portfolio at the moment. So a 4% drop of 15% is only 0.6% of my portfolio.
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isn't saying that if your sensex fund swing 18% higher from now would only transform a hike of 2.7% in your portfolio?
4% drop of 15% = 0.6%
18% hike of 15% = 2.7% ? tongue.gif enough ah?

QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ May 7 2015, 10:43 PM)
Didn't have time to log on today. But markets took a beating today as well. When will this end? Its this the end of the bull market for China?
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expert saying that this is a healthy drop , believe or not is leave to us to determine. rclxub.gif
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anyone knows where can i get the following forms on the website?

(1)  Fundsupermart Transfer Form ( Please kindly sign on the transferor and transferee column)

(2)  Fund house transfer form ( Please kindly sign on the transferor column only)

(3)  Consent Letter

cant seems to find them
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try this.
https://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/buysell/transferIn.tpl?
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QUOTE(pedestrian @ May 7 2015, 10:58 PM)
Newcomer here, so by using Fundsupermart website, can buy/sell unit trust at any time?
Is FundSupermart offer 1% for new customer still on? TQ.
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try see this...
http://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/resea...?articleNo=1985
yes, you can buy and sell FSM available unit trust at anytime....but not during their website maintenance period (about 6 hrs) in which FSM would place a notice in advance.

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Stocks close higher ahead of jobs report; yields eyed

U.S. stocks closed higher on Thursday as investors awaited the key April jobs report and eyed easing in oil prices and bond yields. (Tweet This)

Stocks rally 1% with Dow up triple digits; biotech, Apple recover to boost
"Seems like we have a little bit of a reversal going on here," said Jack Ablin, chief investment officer at BMO Private Bank. "Investors probably want to see a jobs report before a strategy change."

URL: http://finance.yahoo.com/news/stocks-trade...-134800396.html
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QUOTE(yck1987 @ May 7 2015, 11:03 PM)
isn't saying that if your sensex fund swing 18% higher from now would only transform a hike of 2.7% in your portfolio?
4% drop of 15% = 0.6%
18% hike of 15% = 2.7% ?  tongue.gif enough ah? 
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Actually my greedy heart thinks 2.7% is not enough... but the rate limiting factor is the volatility aka riskiness of the said fund. My algozen™ calculated that Sexy is still a good bet even though the volatility is very high as long as I do not expose more than 15% to it.

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Actually my greedy heart thinks 2.7% is not enough... but the rate limiting factor is the volatility aka riskiness of the said fund. My algozen™ calculated that Sexy is still a good bet even though the volatility is very high as long as I do not expose more than 15% to it.

Xuzen
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If we plan to hold the fund for more than 3 years, we can ignore short term volatility.

As far as Warren Buffett is concered, volatility does not equate risk sleep.gif
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QUOTE(xuzen @ May 7 2015, 03:04 PM)
Commodities is soooooo passe! It was so yesterday... Today is China! China! China! And tomorrow... according to my crystal ball may be Eurozone (QE effect mah!)

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china, china is down these 2 days... time to top up?
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china, china is down these 2 days... time to top up?
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see replies to almost similar post...at page# 18, post# 346

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are u sure? im thinking to cabut already.
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rclxms.gif just hope that after this incident, you had managed to know yourself better.
no right or wrong....just individual risk preference
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QUOTE(elea88 @ May 8 2015, 10:06 AM)
china, china is down these 2 days... time to top up?
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I am maintaining 80% exposure to Greater China because it still offer the best risk adjusted reward compared to other geographical region. If I can find another asset class that have better risk adjusted reward, I'll dump this and move on... no emotional attachment. It is all about the numbers.

Back to your question: To answer the above question, look at your own portfolio...how many % exposure are you holding This should answer your question. Ultimately, it all boils down to how much risk can you stomach.

You will also realise that I do not talk about market timing, i..e, when can top up or when to pull out. I always talk about how much % to hold. If you think from this perspective, then you will realise the there is no more need to ask when to buy or when to sell anymore!

This is all part and parcel of asset allocation and based on the Modern Portfolio Theory.

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QUOTE(river.sand @ May 8 2015, 09:37 AM)
If we plan to hold the fund for more than 3 years, we can ignore short term volatility.

As far as Warren Buffett is concered, volatility does not equate risk  sleep.gif
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Not sure what Warren Buffett said because I no longer subscribe to Fundamental Analysis school of thought.

To put it in a easily understand manner; risk is a concept and volatility is a measurement of the riskiness. Similar like distance is a concept, and a measurement of distance is meter, feet, mile etc.

The commonly agreed unit of volatility is called Standard Deviation.

For example, two risky asset, Fund A has a volatility of 8.7% standard deviation and Fund B has 18.0% Standard Deviation. Tell me, which one is more risky?

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mad.gif vmad.gif DAMN!.....now only i know why i am not wealthy. !

The wealthy folks surf less too. 63% of them surf the Internet less than an hour unless it is job-related as compared to 74% of those struggling financially who surf an hour or more every day.

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QUOTE(xuzen @ May 8 2015, 11:01 AM)
I am maintaining 80% exposure to Greater China because it still offer the best risk adjusted reward compared to other geographical region. If I can find another asset class that have better risk adjusted reward, I'll dump this and move on... no emotional attachment. It is all about the numbers.

Back to your question: To answer the above question, look at your own portfolio...how many % exposure are you holding This should answer your question. Ultimately, it all boils down to how much risk can you stomach.

You will also realise that I do not talk about market timing, i..e, when can top up or when to pull out. I always talk about how much % to hold.  If you think from this perspective, then you will realise the there is no more need to ask when to buy or when to sell anymore!

This is all part and parcel of asset allocation and based on the Modern Portfolio Theory.

Xuzen
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My investment in Unit trust.. i do not time too..
But however, i was caught few years ago with China.

I hv recently sold off more than 80% of my china Holdings last week. So, am thinking of going in again.

With China... really hv to monitor very closely.

Fast up.. and SUPER fast down.
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QUOTE(elea88 @ May 8 2015, 11:30 AM)
My investment in Unit trust.. i do not time too..
But however, i was caught few years ago with China.

I hv recently sold off more than 80% of my china Holdings last week. So, am thinking of going in again.

With China... really hv to monitor very closely.

Fast up.. and SUPER fast down.
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hmm.gif wondering why or what made you sold off last week and why want to reenter now (just 1 week different)?
(got crystal balls at home ?) brows.gif notworthy.gif

"With China... really hv to monitor very closely"....isn't that the job of the FM of those fund that has looser mandate?

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QUOTE(yklooi @ May 8 2015, 11:18 AM)
mad.gif  vmad.gif DAMN!.....now only i know why i am not wealthy. !

The wealthy folks surf less too. 63% of them surf the Internet less than an hour unless it is job-related as compared to 74% of those struggling financially who surf an hour or more every day.

Think And Do Like The Wealthy Folks!
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then stop surfing the net from now onwards laugh.gif
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China April exports unexpectedly contract, import slide worsens, more stimulus seen
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China's exports unexpectedly fell 6.4 percent in April from a year earlier, while imports tumbled by a deeper-than-forecast 16.2 percent, fueling expectations that Beijing will quickly roll out more stimulus to avert a sharper economic slowdown.

The dismal trade performance raises the risk that second-quarter economic growth may dip below 7 percent for the first time since the depths of the global financial crisis, adding to official fears of job losses and growing levels of bad debt.

http://www.theedgemarkets.com/my/article/c...en?type=Markets
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QUOTE(yklooi @ May 8 2015, 10:25 AM)
rclxms.gif just hope that after this incident, you had managed to know yourself better.
no right or wrong....just individual risk preference
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i bought my china fund cheap around 3 years ago so i'm still making money. just wished i cabut when it was at peak. earn more like that. haha.
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QUOTE(T231H @ May 8 2015, 11:34 AM)
hmm.gif wondering why or what made you sold off last week and why want to reenter now (just 1 week different)?
(got crystal balls at home ?)  brows.gif  notworthy.gif

"With China... really hv to monitor very closely"....isn't that the job of the FM of those fund that has looser mandate?
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erm.. no crystall ball.. I just glace through internet and see lots article on CHINA BUBBLE.. and i am happy with my profit, so i just sell, sell sell.. then now i see drop drop drop... so, thinking of buying back. Still bullish on China.

No right or wrong... I used to have Dragon Fund. Buy from inception.. and loss more than 50%.. Few years ago.

So, I realise, buy when dipped....and when got huge profit. Just take the profit first.

Yeah.. i know not suppose to do that with UNIT TRUST.. but, I think even unit trust need close monitoring.

EG:AmPrecious.. did not realise the drop till it was too late....
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then stop surfing the net from now onwards laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Amatiel @ May 8 2015, 01:53 PM)
i bought my china fund cheap around 3 years ago so i'm still making money. just wished i cabut when it was at peak. earn more like that. haha.
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ok..
me too.....is still not yet cabut....just thinking....
so you not yet cabut?

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QUOTE(elea88 @ May 8 2015, 01:58 PM)
erm.. no crystall ball.. I just glace through internet and see lots article on CHINA BUBBLE.. and i am happy with my profit, so i just sell, sell sell.. then now i see drop drop drop... so, thinking of buying back. Still bullish on China.

No right or wrong... I used to have Dragon Fund. Buy from inception.. and loss more than 50%.. Few years ago.

So, I realise, buy when dipped....and  when got huge profit. Just take the profit first.

Yeah.. i know not suppose to do that with UNIT TRUST.. but, I think even unit trust need close monitoring.

EG:AmPrecious.. did not realise the drop till it was too late....
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Shenzhen-HK stock connect may be announced this quarter: UBS
PUBLISHED ON MAY 8, 2015

Regulators in China may unveil the Shenzhen-Hong Kong stock connect some time this quarter, in a move that will further enlarge the investment flows from the mainland into Hong Kong's small and mid-sized listed companies.

This is according to a recent report published by UBS, which added that the gradual opening-up of China's capital market may lead to more mergers and acquisitions.

A stock connect platform between the Shenzhen Stock Exchange and its Hong Kong counterpart will be a logical next step for the regulators, following the rollout of Shanghai-Hong Kong link in November last year.

- See more at: http://www.straitstimes.com/news/business/...h.eiCNBInZ.dpuf

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Shenzhen-HK stock connect may be announced this quarter: UBS
PUBLISHED ON MAY 8, 2015

Regulators in China may unveil the Shenzhen-Hong Kong stock connect some time this quarter, in a move that will further enlarge the investment flows from the mainland into Hong Kong's small and mid-sized listed companies.

This is according to a recent report published by UBS, which added that the gradual opening-up of China's capital market may lead to more mergers and acquisitions.

A stock connect platform between the Shenzhen Stock Exchange and its Hong Kong counterpart will be a logical next step for the regulators, following the rollout of Shanghai-Hong Kong link in November last year.

- See more at: http://www.straitstimes.com/news/business/...h.eiCNBInZ.dpuf

China/hk go go go  rclxms.gif
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Previous one is Shanghai-HK right?

Then another rumours on China-Taiwan?
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Previous one is Shanghai-HK right?

Then another rumours on China-Taiwan?
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Previous one is Shanghai-HK established in NOV last year
Shenzhen HK link is coming.

China’s securities regulator is studying setting up a stock-trading link between Shanghai and Taipei,
while Taiwan’s government said it will open a cross-border stock trading platform with Singapore on July 1.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/201...quity-link-bets
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Previous one is Shanghai-HK established in NOV last year
Shenzhen HK link is coming.

China’s securities regulator is studying setting up a stock-trading link between Shanghai and Taipei,
while Taiwan’s government said it will open a cross-border stock trading platform with Singapore on July 1.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/201...quity-link-bets
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ok..
me too.....is still not yet cabut....just thinking....
so you not yet cabut?
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not yet. too much thinking to do haha
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FSM ftw!!!

because i am holding some funds with maybank, purchased through maybank when I was still new to unit trust and FSM does not have direct transfer facility with maybank.

FSM offering to waive the sales charge if I redeemed my existing fund at maybank and use that proceeds to buy other funds on their platform.


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Woahhhh..

All market crashing especially europe and china amd malaysia
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Woahhhh..

All market crashing especially europe and china amd malaysia
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You are referring to yesterday or day before right ?

I see today Asia market climb back up again.

My profit eroded about 35% since last week or so.
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One of my favourite movies is Braveheart, starring Mel Gibson as William Wallace. He was the Scottish patriot and national hero who fought and died to free Scotland from English rule.

There is a scene in the movie where the heavily armoured English cavalry was charging on horses towards the lightly armed Scottish infantry. Wallace ordered his troops to "HOLD....HOLD.....HOLD....". At the very last minute, the Scottish infantry raised 10 feet long poles which were lying hidden on the ground to pierce and slaughter the English cavalryman. Scotland won a great victory that day.

What does this story has to do with investing in unit trusts in FSM? In times of great uncertainty and adversity, if we have a proper asset allocation, then we should just weather the storm and hold our portfolio. The storm will pass and we will emerge victorious at the end.

China and India may be falling today but we should stay focused. Invest more if we can afford to and just sit tight to weather the storm.

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QUOTE(puchongite @ May 8 2015, 04:05 PM)
You are referring to yesterday or day before right ?

I see today Asia market climb back up again.

My profit eroded about 35% since last week or so.
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SSE Composite up 2%. HSI up 1%
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One of my favourite movies is Braveheart, starring Mel Gibson as William Wallace. He was the Scottish patriot and national hero who fought and died to free Scotland from English rule.

There is a scene in the movie where the heavily armoured English cavalry was charging on horses towards the lightly armed Scottish infantry. Wallace ordered his troops to "HOLD....HOLD.....HOLD....". At the very last minute, the Scottish infantry raised 10 feet long poles which were lying hidden on the ground to pierce and slaughter the English cavalryman. Scotland won a great victory that day.

What does this story has to do with investing in unit trusts in FSM? In times of great uncertainty and adversity, if we have a proper asset allocation, then we should just weather the storm and hold our portfolio. The storm will pass and we will emerge victorious at the end.

China and India may be falling today but we should stay focused. Invest more if we can afford to and just sit tight to weather the storm.
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When all you have is just some primitive pointy tip polearm then you can only hold hold hold loh! Imagine if he has with him trebuchet, multiple firing crossbows etc, then he has so much more options.

Similarly in Bolehland, we can only long a fund and nothing else hence we can only wait it out. Now imagine if we can short sell funds or perhaps write and sell our own put or call options. Do much more we can do....rather than wait it out and tok-kok with strangers over the net.

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QUOTE(puchongite @ May 8 2015, 04:05 PM)
You are referring to yesterday or day before right ?

I see today Asia market climb back up again.

My profit eroded about 35% since last week or so.
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Day b4 yesterday..even cimb apdif and cimb greater china
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QUOTE(xuzen @ May 8 2015, 04:25 PM)
When all you have is just some primitive pointy tip polearm then you can only hold hold hold loh! Imagine if he has with him trebuchet, multiple firing crossbows etc, then he has so much more options.

Similarly in Bolehland, we can only long a fund and nothing else hence we can only wait it out. Now imagine if we can short sell funds or perhaps write and sell our own put or call options. Do much more we can do....rather than wait it out and tok-kok with strangers over the net.

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World bond and stock markets rose on Friday after a bruising week and sterling jumped to a two-month high after the business-friendly Conservative party won Britain's national elections.

"The surprisingly decisive result reduces uncertainty over the next (UK) government," analysts at Morgan Stanley wrote in a note.

Confidence was also given a big lift as bond markets recovered after one of the most turbulent weeks in Europe for decades.

http://www.thestar.com.my/Business/Busines...tion/?style=biz
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Doom and gloom predictions have been around for years. They were there before we were born and they will still be there after we leave this world.

We just have to practise asset allocation and do the best we can.

On a different note, I was surprised to see the amount of your investment. If I had knew, I would have advised you to diversify more. At least 6-8 equity funds and 2 bond funds. I believe you have zero bond funds now? If my assumption is correct, you have a super aggressive portfolio which is extremely vulnerable to the market forces. This may leave you open to panic attacks when the market goes down.

But all is not lost. You can re-structure your asset allocation later once it turn green again.

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well 6-8 equity funds for diversification is really overdiversification.we cannot 'diversified'away from systematic risk even with 100 equity funds sad.gif
suffice to say 70% TSM or large caps value+growth,25% small/midcap,15%small value would have been adequate.expense ratio for the latter 2 funds will be fairly substantial as churning or higher turnover rate than large cpas is not unexpected
as for asset allocation- risk tolerance time horizon investment goal etc would determine/decides the portfolio of the investor
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well 6-8 equity funds for diversification is really overdiversification.we cannot 'diversified'away from systematic risk even with 100 equity funds sad.gif
suffice to say 70% TSM or large caps value+growth,25% small/midcap,15%small value would have been adequate.expense ratio for the latter 2 funds will be fairly substantial as churning or higher turnover rate than large cpas is not unexpected 
as for asset allocation- risk tolerance time horizon investment goal etc would determine/decides the portfolio of the investor
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doh.gif looks like "Heavy" stuffs to me....
notworthy.gif can you simplified it in laymen terms?.....example a simple portfolio might helps.... notworthy.gif
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try see this...
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yes, you can buy and sell FSM available unit trust at anytime....but not during their website maintenance period (about 6 hrs) in which FSM would place a notice in advance.
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can buy at 1% for 30 days
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Need to deposit money first before can buy fund? Can accept Pbebank/Cimbclicks to deposit money?

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Thank you very much.  thumbup.gif

Need to deposit money first before can buy fund? Can accept Pbebank/Cimbclicks to deposit money?
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Logging its biggest rise in over a month, the benchmark BSE Sensex today surged by 506 points to 27,105.39 points on government's move to mollify overseas investors' taxation worries and rupee's recovery.

Firm global stocks tracking UK election result, fall in Brent oil prices, value-buying in domestic beaten-down stocks helped Sensex recover from 6-1/2 months low, traders said.

On weekly basis, the 30-share Sensex recovered by 94.08 points or 0.35 per cent, to snap three weeks of losses

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http://www.fundsupermart.com.hk/hk/main/re...?articleNo=9732

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well 6-8 equity funds for diversification is really overdiversification.we cannot 'diversified'away from systematic risk even with 100 equity funds sad.gif
suffice to say 70% TSM or large caps value+growth,25% small/midcap,15%small value would have been adequate.expense ratio for the latter 2 funds will be fairly substantial as churning or higher turnover rate than large cpas is not unexpected 
as for asset allocation- risk tolerance time horizon investment goal etc would determine/decides the portfolio of the investor
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Well, only time will tell whether I will crash and burn by this year end if I deworsified. biggrin.gif
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well one sparrow does not make a summer
to pass judgement on the performance an equity fund on such a short interval is akin to betting on a roulette table
perhaps to surmise 80 % of actively manage mutual fund has failed to beat the index in the last 50 years which again act as a timely reminder from mr john boger the founder of vanguard fund that you reap the long term rewards and endure the short term pain (volatility)

by the way standard deviation for the stock market is 15 bond 7 tbills 0

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jutamind I think I know why you kept getting the "Attempt to shift table cell" error already, even after following the instructions.

This is because the Excel version of yours is 2010, I remember woonsc encountered the same error but managed to resolve it,

woon, do you mind sharing how you add new set of funds into the template? Since the method I shared only works for Excel 2013++.
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jutamind I think I know why you kept getting the "Attempt to shift table cell" error already, even after following the instructions.

This is because the Excel version of yours is 2010, I remember woonsc encountered the same error but managed to resolve it,

woon, do you mind sharing how you add new set of funds into the template? Since the method I shared only works for Excel 2013++.
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i created new rows, then copy the whole set of funds, paste botm, then edit name etc..
when need to add space..
I add lines in between..
then copy top and paste tongue.gif thumbup.gif
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As what polarbearz is saying, excel 2010 had issues with copying detail & subtotal line and paste it at the placeholder line

Weird thing is this error only happens on v1.7only. No issue with v1.6. If I add GST column into v1.6, the error happens again.

I'm using office 2010


QUOTE(woonsc @ May 8 2015, 11:19 PM)
i created new rows, then copy the whole set of funds, paste botm, then edit name etc..
when need to add space..
I add lines in between..
then copy top and paste tongue.gif  thumbup.gif
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Been away for few days and opened my FSM today and saw my ponzi 2.0 took a huge dip shocking.gif

A newbie question, is this dip normal ? should I top up ?
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Been away for few days and opened my FSM today and saw my ponzi 2.0 took a huge dip shocking.gif

A newbie question, is this dip normal ? should I top up ?
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a good answer to almost similar question...refer to page#22, post# 423 notworthy.gif

about the dips....
YES dips is very normal, at times very frequent, at greater rate and lasted longer too
does it dip only on your fund when compared with its peers or did they too also dips..

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my portfolio all blood bath !!! cry.gif   mad.gif  vmad.gif  cry.gif  doh.gif
should I bail out now to reduce losses?
sell now and come back to fight another day?
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FSM heard you again....a timely article that had be published before

Idea Of The Week: Keep Your Risks In Check ........May 8, 2015
Different investments come with different levels of risks and investors need to understand and know the risks that they can stomach given the circumstances that they are in before making a decision on what to invest. We explain how Fundsupermart.com Risk Rating can help investors to identify which unit trusts suit their risk appetite.
http://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/resea...?articleNo=5825

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US market rebounced:

U.S. Stocks Overcome Selloff to Finish Week Approaching Records

It’s going to take more than a global bond rout to derail the bull market in equities.
Stocks jumped on Friday after a report showed hiring bounced back in April, erasing losses from two days earlier and sending the Standard & Poor’s 500 Index to a weekly gain of 0.4 percent. Shares overcame the biggest single-day decline in six weeks on Tuesday and losses in fixed-income markets that totaled $500 billion.

URL: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/201...oaching-records
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RHB-OSK Asian Total Return Fund is red now at -3.5% sad.gif
Does it fund worth for me to pump in more money to do DCA?
Any recommend please?
Thanks smile.gif
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RHB-OSK Asian Total Return Fund is red now at -3.5% sad.gif
Does it fund worth for me to pump in more money to do DCA?
Any recommend please?
Thanks smile.gif
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a good answer to almost similar question...refer to page#22, post# 423 notworthy.gif
start from "Back to your question....."
then decide-lor.
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a good answer to almost similar question...refer to page#22, post# 423  notworthy.gif
start from "Back to your question....."
then decide-lor.
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my FA added:
CIMB PRINCIPAL ASIA PACIFIC DYNAMIC INCOME
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my FA added:
CIMB PRINCIPAL ASIA PACIFIC DYNAMIC INCOME
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rclxms.gif good choice since you had these

AFFIN HWANG JAPAN GROWTH FUND 8.7%
RHB-OSK Big Cap China Enterprise Fund 8.7%
Eastspring Investments MY Focus Fund 24.95%
Kenanga Growth Fund Lump 24.94%

Phillip Master Money Market Fund 32.87

btw, how much % is your new fund?
switched from Money market fund or with new cash?
with that how much total China/HK/Taiwan % now?

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What are your thoughts on AmAsia Pacific Equity Income which is recommended by FSM compared to CIMB Ponzi 2.0?
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What are your thoughts on AmAsia Pacific Equity Income which is recommended by FSM compared to CIMB Ponzi 2.0?
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while waiting for value added responses from sifus....
try clicking on each of the individual funds to read what the FSM view about them?
read the fundfactsheets and compare its allocation....?
http://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/resea...tormaincode=All
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Portfolio drop 3% from all time high ROI, after 1 week didnt check...
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next week CHINA markets bull again?
China cuts interest rates for third time in six months as economy sputters.
The People's Bank of China (PBOC) said on its website it was lowering its benchmark, one-year lending rate by 25 basis points to 5.1 percent from May 11. It cut the benchmark deposit rate by the same amount to 2.25 percent.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/05/10/...N0NV0A320150510

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QUOTE(Kaka23 @ May 10 2015, 06:26 PM)
Portfolio drop 3% from all time high ROI, after 1 week didnt check...
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u missing for 1week yo  cry.gif  we all here missed u so much  laugh.gif
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wah...i am no leng lui, nobody miss me la
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Hi Leng Lui. cool2.gif

Lol. my ponzi 2.0 dropped 4%. cool2.gif steady boss
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Hi Leng Lui.  cool2.gif

Lol. my ponzi 2.0 dropped 4%.  cool2.gif  steady boss
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wah...i am no leng lui, nobody miss me la
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hahah rclxs0.gif
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then why female tag  laugh.gif 

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good heart enough already..

plus got financial knowledge, double win drool.gif drool.gif
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Hi Leng Lui.  cool2.gif

Lol. my ponzi 2.0 dropped 4%.  cool2.gif  steady boss
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good heart enough already..

plus got financial knowledge, double win  drool.gif  drool.gif
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hmm.gif the above PLUS,
if she is the ONLY daughter of an extremely rich parents....
wow...not only double win but double that.
thumbup.gif notworthy.gif
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not all female leng lui
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QUOTE(Kaka23 @ May 10 2015, 09:41 PM)
not all female leng lui
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not all female leng lui
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how many times wanna post same thing shakehead.gif laugh.gif

seriously u male or female? rclxub.gif

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how many times wanna post same thing  shakehead.gif  laugh.gif

seriously u male or female?  rclxub.gif
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hmm.gif the above PLUS,
if she is the ONLY daughter of an extremely rich parents....
wow...not only double win but double that.
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refer to post# 470....weak mkt + distribution on thursday
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Yup. That's why. Steady haha.

hmm sifu. Opinion. Is it correct that when I see a fund. Example evergreen.

If market sentiments are falling. It should be expected that the fund should be affected. So I try to look whether the fund tries to reduce the effect or not in comparison to peers n how it responds during downturn n upturn. ?
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Hot news. China cuts interest rates to 5.1% as economy slows

http://www.bbc.com/news/business-32680744


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QUOTE(IvanWong1989 @ May 10 2015, 10:16 PM)
Yup.  That's why. Steady haha.

hmm sifu. Opinion. Is it correct that when I see a fund.  Example evergreen. 

If market sentiments are falling. It should be expected that the fund should be affected.  So I try to look whether the fund tries to reduce the effect or not in comparison to peers n how it responds during downturn n upturn. ?
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hmm.gif where and how you gonna see that? what is stated in the factsheets may not be there or they are history of at least 1 month. Also some funds are mandated to stay invested at example 85% asset at all times....so the FM has no leeway... notworthy.gif

may I suggest,...let the FM do their work for a 2~3 years...if for 2~3 years the fund still LAGS behind its peers of the same mandate...then....see also the fund risk return ratio.....
(it may be short of 2~3% returns in 2~3 years BUT if the fund risk return ratio is BEST among it peers.....another different story too...)

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post May 11 2015, 07:22 AM

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QUOTE(puchongite @ May 10 2015, 10:17 PM)
Hot news. China cuts interest rates to 5.1% as economy slows

http://www.bbc.com/news/business-32680744
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Today China market will shoot up.
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post May 11 2015, 08:37 AM

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QUOTE(David83 @ May 11 2015, 07:22 AM)
Today China market will shoot up.
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Hope it will also take the lead for the market in this region.
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post May 11 2015, 09:18 AM

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Asia shares rise in early trade Monday
http://www.thestar.com.my/Business/Busines...nomy/?style=biz

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