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TSuzairi
post Sep 14 2006, 07:04 PM, updated 18y ago

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WELCOME To The TTT Club!! Enjoy your stay here!!

A present for all of you for succesfully launch of TTT V2.

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TTT Quick Guide 01 - Habitat Setup:
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TTT Quick Guide 02 - Lighting & Basking:
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TTT Quick Guide 03 - Food Source (Vege):
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TTT Quick Guide 04 - Teaching them to eat (Pellets -> Vege):
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TTT Quick Guide 05 - Determining the age :
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TTT Quick Guide 06 - Determining the gender :
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TTT Quick Guide 07 - Carapace problems counter measure:
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# Credit to Drascox & uzairi

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post Sep 14 2006, 07:06 PM

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Usefull Link :-

TTT V1

http://www.chelydra.org
http://www.chelonia.org
http://turtlepimp.com/
http://www.turtletimes.com
http://www.turtlesales.com/
http://www.turtleforum.com/
http://www.turtlepuddle.org/
http://www.austinsturtlepage.com/
http://www.empireoftheturtle.com/

Caresheet :-

Star Tortoise:
http://www.chelonia.org/articles/Geleganscare.htm
http://www.tortoisetrust.org/care/celegans.html
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Asian Leaf Turtle:
http://www.chelonia.org/Articles/Cyclmeyscare.htm
www.petco.com/caresheets/turtles/Turtle_AsianLeaf.pdf
www.asianturtle.org/htm/species_Cyclemys_dentata.html
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Red Eared Slider (RES):
http://www.brentozar.com/turtles/Frequentl...edQuestions.php (FAQ)
http://www.anapsid.org/reslider.html
http://www.tortoise.org/archives/elegans.html
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/FWSubWebIndex/redearsliders.htm
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Painted Turtle Caresheet:
http://www.smm.org/warnernaturecenter/prog...nted_turtle.php (FAQ)
http://www.tortoise.org/archives/chrysemy.html
http://www.fcps.k12.va.us/StratfordLanding...nted_turtle.htm (Plenty of pics-Eastern Painted)
http://home.insightbb.com/~deenak/turtle.htm
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Map Turtle Caresheet:
http://www.unc.edu/~dtkirkpa/stuff/maps.html (Lots of reading)
http://www.austinsturtlepage.com/Care/miss...p-caresheet.htm
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Box Turtle Caresheet:
http://plato.phy.ohiou.edu/~mash/herp/boxturtlefaq.html (FAQ)
http://www.pogospals.com/pogospals/Box_Tur...ealth_Pg_1.html
http://www.pogospals.com/pogospals/Box_Tur...ealth_Pg_2.html
http://www.turtlepuddle.org/cuora/caresheet.html (Asian Box Turtle)
http://www.chelonia.org/Articles/Camboinensiscare.htm (Malayan Box Turtle)
http://www.chelonia.org/Articles/Terrapenecare.htm (North American Box Turtles (Terrapene)
http://www.chelonia.org/Articles/TerrapenecareSZ.htm (Info and Pics)
http://www.boxturtlesite.org/ (Box turtle information page)
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Snapper Caresheet:
http://www.fcps.k12.va.us/StratfordLanding...ping_turtle.htm (mostly pics)
http://www.tortoise.org/archives/macrocl.html (The Alligator Snapping Turtle)
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Spiny Softshell Turtle:
http://www.smm.org/warnernaturecenter/prog...hell_turtle.php (FAQ)
http://www.tortoise.org/archives/apalone.html
http://www.chelonia.org/Articles/softshellcare.htm
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Stinkpot turtle:
http://gctts.org/WS/WS.php/Public/StinkpotTurtle
http://www.herpnet.net/Iowa-Herpetology/re...s/stinkpot.html
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Sideneck turtle:
http://www.chelonia.org/acanthochelys_gallery.htm (Pics of different sidenecks)
http://www.austinsturtlepage.com/Care/cs-y...eadedamazon.htm (Yellow headed sideneck)
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Longneck turtle:
http://www.chelonia.org/Articles/easternlongneck.htm (Eastern longneck)
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Musk Turtle:
http://www.chelonia.org/Articles/sternotheruscare.htm
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Geochelone Sulcata:
http://sulcata-station.org/
http://www.anapsid.org/sulcata.html
http://www.chelonia.org/articles/sulcatacare.htm
http://africantortoise.com/

# Credit to uzairi,infinitevoid & titansulcata

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Turtle & Tortoise Anatomy
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Turtle & Tortoise Terminology
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Head count (sorted by V1 post counts):-

1. uzairi
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2. crazymouse_yyh
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3. dai86
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4. ntlc87
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5. hwa107
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6. titansulcata
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7. funkychips
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8. meiteoh
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9. UPM_Parasite
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10. sayasebuk
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11. aliftaufiq
12. Drascox
13. prophet007
14. ekiddie
15. long3016
16. kamekame8888
17. hammyhuggies
18. Balthasar
19. jasp3r
20. ken2fast
21. eyerule
22. Austin
23. c0c0nut
24. InfiniteVoid
25. suppaman
26. rickyfan8888
27. Jysw1986
28. bodyrules
29. aimeh
30. hao
31. tsg
32. fantagero
33. X-Free!
34. EuJax
35. tom_k3nt
36. cjtune
37. cReepx
38. SoFastSoFurious
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40.

History Maker :-

1. Drascox - V1
2. uzairi - V2

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post Sep 14 2006, 07:15 PM

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V2 is here.. rclxm9.gif
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post Sep 14 2006, 07:19 PM

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Congrats!!!! Happy lah V2!!!
TSuzairi
post Sep 14 2006, 07:21 PM

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Thanks, since the first thread already reach 2500 posts so i create V2 for all the TTT members. Enjoy and have a nice stay.

# Updates will follow as im updating the information n stuffs.
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Nice!! We'll get to rant and rave about our shelled pals here day and night hehe.... laugh.gif
uzairi....one box of torts isn't enough to go around for all...more boxes please..haha!! thumbup.gif

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leave my foot print together with my star at the 1st page!! tongue.gif
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post Sep 14 2006, 08:24 PM

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More boxes ka ? Expensive la those Redfoot babies. sweat.gif
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post Sep 14 2006, 08:27 PM

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congrats from the ABCDE gang rclxms.gif

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post Sep 14 2006, 08:31 PM

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lol @ titan. Nice arrangement. hehe. And congrats on v2!
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post Sep 14 2006, 09:07 PM

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He is indeed addicted to tortoise too much. thumbup.gif

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phew~~~ lucky got all the info here. if not, then need to go through the 100++ page V1 thread to reread.
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titan: i wonder how are you going to differentiate ur stars? well, they look very much alike...lol.
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Congratulations and bravo!! rclxms.gif thumbup.gif Credits to Uzairi and all who contributed. Thanks and keep it going!



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QUOTE(prophet007 @ Sep 14 2006, 10:23 PM)
titan: i wonder how are you going to differentiate ur stars? well, they look very much alike...lol.
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ya, at first it was hard to differenciate...
but now i can identify em by it's shell and the size

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post Sep 14 2006, 11:08 PM

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QUOTE(prophet007 @ Sep 14 2006, 10:05 PM)
phew~~~ lucky got all the info here. if not, then need to go through the 100++ page V1 thread to reread.
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I take the trouble browsing 100++ pages for u. thumbup.gif

QUOTE(EuJax @ Sep 14 2006, 10:37 PM)
Congratulations and bravo!!  rclxms.gif  thumbup.gif  Credits to Uzairi and all who contributed. Thanks and keep it going!
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Thanks, and thanks to all who made it possible for V2.
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congrats and credit to uzairi and all~~ hehe... i also wanna leave a place with my 'sui gong' in the first page.
oh ya, i get another star tortoise today. hehe... now i have 2 small star loh~~ not name them yet cause i scared like last time, wrong gender. hehe...
today my boss ask me wether i wanna buy an impress tortoise or not. it price is bout rm220 for 5 inch big. i say why so cheap...but starting i say i dun want cause i have no place to put it. but later i call again and say i want. but my boss leave the shop. then he ask wether want him call to book that tortoise not? i say nevermind, next time if he saw it again only buy it. then when he came at night, he show me the impress tortoise photo...something wrong with it...it got another or a 'spare' piece on it shell. huh... but the tortoise look healthy. hehe.... then my boss told me he get himself a pancakes tortoise, bout 5 inch. i say that it need place to hide and clim, not like star tortoise. and how to take care it. then he say later he will bring it to the stall and let me take care it. huh~~~

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ya... credits must be given to uzairi and de rest tat did contributed on de first thread and links up everything in here which makes de first page a good reference page... need not to flip it page by page to look for info...

good job done to all! rclxms.gif

let's begin de V2 wif all happy happy torts & turts around!

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huh~ retype it again. nevermind. later i will post my new star pic in here. hehe... but the new one really really nice lah. she (i think is she) have starting to grow the 8 star pattern now. hehe...

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post Sep 14 2006, 11:54 PM

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QUOTE(ekiddie @ Sep 14 2006, 11:43 PM)
ya... credits must be given to uzairi and de rest tat did contributed on de first thread and links up everything in here which makes de first page a good reference page... need not to flip it page by page to look for info...

good job done to all!  rclxms.gif 

let's begin de V2 wif all happy happy torts & turts around!

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Yeah, later need to compile V2 for V3 pulak. rclxub.gif

QUOTE(dai86 @ Sep 14 2006, 11:48 PM)
congrats and credit to uzairi and all~~ hehe... i also wanna leave a place with my 'sui gong' in the first page.
oh ya, i get another star tortoise today. hehe... now i have 2 small star loh~~ not name them yet cause i scared like last time, wrong gender. hehe...
today my boss ask me wether i wanna buy an impress tortoise or not. it price is bout rm220 for 5 inch big. i say why so cheap...but starting i say i dun want cause i have no place to put it. but later i call again and say i want. but my boss leave the shop. then he ask wether want him call to book that tortoise not? i say nevermind, next time if he saw it again only buy it. then when he came at night, he show me the impress tortoise photo...something wrong with it...it got another or a 'spare' piece on it shell. huh... but the tortoise look healthy. hehe.... then my boss told me he get himself a pancakes tortoise, bout 5 inch. i say that it need place to hide and clim, not like star tortoise. and how to take care it. then he say later he will bring it to the stall and let me take care it. huh~~~
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Double posts ? Same like me just now. laugh.gif Impressed tortoise that cheap ka ? I never saw one untill now also. How big ? And are u sure that's an Impressed Tortoise ?
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suddenly... a Q popped up in my mind... does TTT sleeps??

how turtles Zzz?? how tortoises Zzz?? and how terrapins Zzz??

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Wow wow tahniah tahniah! smile.gif And thanks to Uzairi and all. Cool place to be smile.gif



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post Sep 15 2006, 12:26 AM

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QUOTE(ekiddie @ Sep 15 2006, 12:12 AM)
suddenly... a Q popped up in my mind... does TTT sleeps??

how turtles Zzz?? how tortoises Zzz?? and how terrapins Zzz??

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They sleep, almost all the time. doh.gif How they sleep ? Close their eyes and pull their head in. wub.gif

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Wow wow tahniah tahniah! smile.gif And thanks to Uzairi and all. Cool place to be smile.gif
Cheers
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my tortoises collection and tortoise home sweat.gif

Livestock : 1 Radiated Pair, 1 Star pair (Egg Laying 8 inch female) and 1 Leopard.
Home : 3ft x 2ft fiber tank
Environment: Airwell (12 hours sunlight)
Daily consumption : 1 Stalk of ChoySum per day
Bedding : Corn kernels
Lighting Bulb: 75W Sunglow (2ft distance)
Diet Supplement: Azoo calcium
Waterchange: Daily

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QUOTE(SoFastSoFurious @ Sep 15 2006, 12:30 AM)
my tortoises collection and tortoise home  sweat.gif

Livestock : 1 Radiated Pair, 1 Star pair (Egg Laying 8 inch female) and 1 Leopard.
Home : 3ft x 2ft fiber tank
Environment: Airwell (12 hours sunlight)
Daily consumption : 1 Stalk of ChoySum per day
Bedding : Corn kernels
Lighting Bulb: 75W Sunglow (2ft distance)
Diet Supplement: Azoo calcium
Waterchange: Daily
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SFSF, beautiful tortoises you got there smile.gif Thanks for sharing and they look fantastic.

Dai86, if thats an Impressa then the price is pretty okay. Let me know if you wanna pass on.

By the way, i just put an Impressed Tortoise to peace today in a petshop, they didnt even know it has stopped breathing. Am very sad myself when i held it up and find that its not moving anymore. Worst part, when i held it vertically to take it out, internal rotten juices flow out from its anal together with blood. The shop guy was so shocked...huh...they could've been better. Put it into a box and close up. I am still very sad sad.gif




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QUOTE(EuJax @ Sep 15 2006, 12:46 AM)
SFSF, beautiful tortoises you got there smile.gif Thanks for sharing and they look fantastic.

Dai86, if thats an Impressa then the price is pretty okay. Let me know if you wanna pass on.

By the way, i just put an Impressed Tortoise to peace today in a petshop, they didnt even know it has stopped breathing. Am very sad myself when i held it up and find that its not moving anymore. Worst part, when i held it vertically to take it out, internal rotten juices flow out from its anal together with blood. The shop guy was so shocked...huh...they could've been better. Put it into a box and close up. I am still very sad sad.gif
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tks bro. rclxm9.gif

sorry to hear that. how big was the impressed tortoise? any symptoms earlier?
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Just to share some of my turtles... smile.gif



Cheers.


p/s dont know what happen, it double posted.

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Just to share some of my turtles... smile.gif



Cheers.

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post Sep 15 2006, 02:31 AM

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QUOTE(SoFastSoFurious @ Sep 15 2006, 12:30 AM)
my tortoises collection and tortoise home  sweat.gif

Livestock : 1 Radiated Pair, 1 Star pair (Egg Laying 8 inch female) and 1 Leopard.
Home : 3ft x 2ft fiber tank
Environment: Airwell (12 hours sunlight)
Daily consumption : 1 Stalk of ChoySum per day
Bedding : Corn kernels
Lighting Bulb: 75W Sunglow (2ft distance)
Diet Supplement: Azoo calcium
Waterchange: Daily
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Nice one dude, but i think u need to separate the stars from leapard and radiated. Stars easily get infected with desease that other tortoise have. Another thing, where u bought the blue tank and how much ? Im looking for that blue tank for quite some time already.

QUOTE(EuJax @ Sep 15 2006, 12:46 AM)
SFSF, beautiful tortoises you got there smile.gif Thanks for sharing and they look fantastic.

Dai86, if thats an Impressa then the price is pretty okay. Let me know if you wanna pass on.

By the way, i just put an Impressed Tortoise to peace today in a petshop, they didnt even know it has stopped breathing. Am very sad myself when i held it up and find that its not moving anymore. Worst part, when i held it vertically to take it out, internal rotten juices flow out from its anal together with blood. The shop guy was so shocked...huh...they could've been better. Put it into a box and close up. I am still very sad sad.gif
Regards
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How it died ? Pity that one, they are great tortoise.

QUOTE(EuJax @ Sep 15 2006, 01:09 AM)
Just to share some of my turtles... smile.gif
Cheers.
p/s dont know what happen, it double posted.
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Nice, i like ur spiny hill, musk and stinkpot. Mind to tell what species u currently have ? Maybe i'll make a database about turtles n tortoise in our collection. thumbup.gif

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nice shots on ur collection eujax! i like ur stinkpot... ei, where u bot de stinkpot ha?

i'm going to get a pair of terrapins... hehe... gonna get something different where it's de pets no one wants... poor thing... hmm...

and i haf a gang in here tat haf razorbacks! hehe... eujax, i haf a Q ah... my razor's carapace's rear will haf some 'fur' alike kind of things... wat's tat ha?? izzit water dirt or wat? can i just brush it off wif like a soft toothbrush?? currently, i alwiz just rub it away wif my hand everytime i change water... if u don get wat i'm saying... here u go the pic as attached...

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as those highlighted... it alwiz stick wif my razors...

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Hm...exo terra bulbs seem to have short lifespans. Both of my 45W and 70W just blew. So for the weekend and today, Tortue won't have any "direct" light for basking. DAMNIT.

Nice work on the V2 thread and chun turtles/tortoise everyone! (I think my colleague caught my turtle fever. She's getting an RES, me thinks!)
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guys, check out today's NST page 8

Smuggler found with 1,460 star tortoises

Kuala Lumpur: Heavy luggage always spells trouble at airports, but for one Malaysian traveler, it was a case of a thousand protected tortoises too many.

Indian Customs officials arrested the ornamental fish trader on Tuesday night after he checked in a stroller bag and suitcase stuffed with 1,460 Indian star tortoises. It was the biggest single illegal consignment of the endangered tortoises they had seen

Customs officers stopped the Malaysian as he was headed for Immigration at the Chennai airport, Indian news reports said.

He reportedly told them that his bags contained only his personal belongings. Because he appeared nervous, the officers searched his baggage and found the live tortoises worth RM300,000

He has been handed over to the Forest Department for investigation.

The Malaysian could face several years behind bars if found guilty under India's Wildlife Protection Act, said Forest Range office K.S. Sathyamoorthy.

This is the second time a Malaysian has been arrested in Chennai for smuggling star tortoises. A year ago, another Malaysian was found with 350 star tortoises in his luggage, he said.

Judging from previous seizures, Malaysia is the main destination of star tortoise smugglers, said Sathyamoorthy, who is handling the investigation for the Chennai Wildlife Department.

Palm-sized, with pretty brown shells bearing beige star-like markings, hatchlings fetch about RM80 in pet shops, while larger ones sell for about RM150.

Trade in star tortoises is strictly regulated under Appendix II of the Convention on International Trade in Endangered Species of Wild Flora and Fauna

Their capture and sale is banned in India and Pakistan

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i tried google and found some old news

Star tortoise smuggling has declined, authorities claim

Wednesday, Sep 28, 2005
http://www.hindu.com/2005/09/28/stories/2005092816810300.htm

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Authorities seized 3,300 of the reptiles till September this year

CHENNAI: While wildlife activists express serious concern over the smuggling of star torrtoises, official statistics show that there has been a decrease in the number of cases of smuggling in the last two years. However, the number of star tortoises seized has gone up, officials claim.

The Wildlife officials have rescued 3,065 star tortoises during 2003 and the number has come down to 1,012 last year. Till September this year, the authorities have seized 3,300 star tortoises from the exit points and those abandoned.

The change is attributed to the increased vigil at the exit points such as airport and seaport.

The Wildlife authorities say that all the security agencies in both these places were well aware of the smuggling.

Hence, the security has been tightened at the exit points, they said.

However, they agreed that adequate protection is needed in the forest areas from where the specimens are collected systematically.

More in Chittoor

It is commonly believed that star tortoises are found abundantly in forests of Chittoor in Andhra Pradesh; from there they are brought to the city and then smuggled to Singapore and Malaysia.

However, the officials say the tortoises are found in Pudukottai and Ramanathapuram districts in Tamil Nadu and also in a few forest areas in Karnataka.

The star tortoises are collected between mid-January and February and from mid-July to November.

Authorities note that most of the seized star tortoises were collected from the wild.

But, one consignment of star tortoises recently seized by them led to the suspicion that the reptiles could have been hand-reared, as their shells were softer than the ones from the wild.

The star tortoises are sought for many reasons - to be used in traditional Chinese medicine, as a delicacy in South East Asian nations or to be reared as pets in the West.

The shells of adult reptiles are also used for making ornamental boxes, the authorities said.

Star tortoise smuggling `kingpin' in custody of wildlife authorities

Friday, Nov 25, 2005
http://www.hindu.com/2005/11/25/stories/2005112515060300.htm

Staff Reporter

Narayanan of Tondiarpet allegedly bought them from Andhra Pradeshshikaris

# Each specimen would fetch about Rs. 300
# `Star tortoises were smuggled mainly to be reared as pets'

CHENNAI: Wildlife department officials in the city have arrested the `kingpin' of the star tortoise smuggling racket to Malaysia in the last couple of years.

The wildlife authorities said Customs officials summoned R. Narayanan (25) of Tiruvalluvar Nagar, Tondiarpet, in connection with a drug smuggling case.

When they found out that he was not involved in the case they were handling, but was involved in the smuggling of star tortoises, they informed the Wildlife authorities, who took custody of Narayanan.

Preliminary investigation by the Wildlife authorities revealed that Narayanan used to buy star tortoises from `shikaris' from Madanapalli in Andhra Pradesh, who collected the reptiles from the wild.

The Wildlife authorities said that each specimen would fetch about Rs 300, and were mainly sent to Malaysia. From Malaysia the reptiles would go to different destinations including Singapore and the U.S. They were smuggled mainly to be reared as pets, Narayanan told the officials.

Last year, he had received a consignment of 650 star tortoises from the shikaris of Andhra Pradesh and this year he received two consignments - 350 and 660. So far, he had purchased 1,660 star from the shikaris, which he then tried to smuggle to Malaysia through the carriers.

However, the consignments were seized at the airport and other places, the wildlife authorities said.

It was for the first time the authorities arrested a person directly involved in the smuggling of star tortoises.

A senior officer said, "With the arrest of one of the kingpins, more and more information about star tortoise smuggling should come to light."

This post has been edited by titansulcata: Sep 15 2006, 08:36 AM
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meaning...

star Tortoise price akan naik lagi

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The star tortoises are sought for many reasons - to be used in traditional Chinese medicine, as a delicacy in South East Asian nations or to be reared as pets in the West.
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wah, for what purpose... guai leng gou???
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.............Another thing, where u bought the blue tank and how much ? Im looking for that blue tank for quite some time already.
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i got it from an aquarium shop ( SIEWEX AQUARIUM) in Taman Megah. Actually these blue fiber tanks are available at any fish shops. just ask them and they sure got.
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QUOTE(EuJax @ Sep 15 2006, 01:09 AM)
Just to share some of my turtles... smile.gif
Cheers.
p/s dont know what happen, it double posted.
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wow ur tortoises so power. make my collection seem so few la. hehehehe
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Uzairi & EuJax, i sure it is the impressed tortoise lah, he take a pic to me. hehe.... i 2000% sure. hehe.... cause that impressed got some cacat, that is he got another extra piece of scute. hehe.. but i thinking to buy it lah, see next time my boss go there again and it still there not. then u all who want it can have a look before deciding to get it or not. oo.. the impressed is a male ya~ hehe...

ekiddie, i think that is a type of mukor that in water, which will lekat on dirty or died aquatic animal. hehe... u better clean it. hehe...

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waaa just moved to V2 and already 3 pages notworthy.gif

QUOTE(EuJax @ Sep 15 2006, 01:09 AM)
Just to share some of my turtles... smile.gif
Cheers.
p/s dont know what happen, it double posted.
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wow seems that you too are in the track of establishing a turtle farm tongue.gif
BTW, i saw some plants in your aquarium. what type of plants are they? floating or planted types?

a question just popped up in my head
for turtles, since they spend most of their time in water, do i need a long uvb fluroscent to cover the whole length of the tank, or just over the basking area?
i was thinking, can the turtles shell benefit from the uvb rays if their in the water?
hemm smile.gif

QUOTE(titansulcata @ Sep 15 2006, 08:28 AM)
i tried google and found some old news

Star tortoise smuggling has declined, authorities claim

Wednesday, Sep 28, 2005
http://www.hindu.com/2005/09/28/stories/2005092816810300.htm

P. Oppili

Authorities seized 3,300 of the reptiles till September this year

CHENNAI: While wildlife activists express serious concern over the smuggling of star torrtoises, official statistics show that there has been a decrease in the number of cases of smuggling in the last two years. However, the number of star tortoises seized has gone up, officials claim.

The Wildlife officials have rescued 3,065 star tortoises during 2003 and the number has come down to 1,012 last year. Till September this year, the authorities have seized 3,300 star tortoises from the exit points and those abandoned.

The change is attributed to the increased vigil at the exit points such as airport and seaport.

The Wildlife authorities say that all the security agencies in both these places were well aware of the smuggling.

Hence, the security has been tightened at the exit points, they said.

However, they agreed that adequate protection is needed in the forest areas from where the specimens are collected systematically.

More in Chittoor

It is commonly believed that star tortoises are found abundantly in forests of Chittoor in Andhra Pradesh; from there they are brought to the city and then smuggled to Singapore and Malaysia.

However, the officials say the tortoises are found in Pudukottai and Ramanathapuram districts in Tamil Nadu and also in a few forest areas in Karnataka.

The star tortoises are collected between mid-January and February and from mid-July to November.

Authorities note that most of the seized star tortoises were collected from the wild.

But, one consignment of star tortoises recently seized by them led to the suspicion that the reptiles could have been hand-reared, as their shells were softer than the ones from the wild.

The star tortoises are sought for many reasons - to be used in traditional Chinese medicine, as a delicacy in South East Asian nations or to be reared as pets in the West.

The shells of adult reptiles are also used for making ornamental boxes, the authorities said.

Star tortoise smuggling `kingpin' in custody of wildlife authorities

Friday, Nov 25, 2005
http://www.hindu.com/2005/11/25/stories/2005112515060300.htm

Staff Reporter

Narayanan of Tondiarpet allegedly bought them from Andhra Pradeshshikaris

# Each specimen would fetch about Rs. 300
# `Star tortoises were smuggled mainly to be reared as pets'

CHENNAI: Wildlife department officials in the city have arrested the `kingpin' of the star tortoise smuggling racket to Malaysia in the last couple of years.

The wildlife authorities said Customs officials summoned R. Narayanan (25) of Tiruvalluvar Nagar, Tondiarpet, in connection with a drug smuggling case.

When they found out that he was not involved in the case they were handling, but was involved in the smuggling of star tortoises, they informed the Wildlife authorities, who took custody of Narayanan.

Preliminary investigation by the Wildlife authorities revealed that Narayanan used to buy star tortoises from `shikaris' from Madanapalli in Andhra Pradesh, who collected the reptiles from the wild.

The Wildlife authorities said that each specimen would fetch about Rs 300, and were mainly sent to Malaysia. From Malaysia the reptiles would go to different destinations including Singapore and the U.S. They were smuggled mainly to be reared as pets, Narayanan told the officials.

Last year, he had received a consignment of 650 star tortoises from the shikaris of Andhra Pradesh and this year he received two consignments - 350 and 660. So far, he had purchased 1,660 star from the shikaris, which he then tried to smuggle to Malaysia through the carriers.

However, the consignments were seized at the airport and other places, the wildlife authorities said.

It was for the first time the authorities arrested a person directly involved in the smuggling of star tortoises.

A senior officer said, "With the arrest of one of the kingpins, more and more information about star tortoise smuggling should come to light."
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im in a dilemma of morality here.
if i support the smugglers, than im endangering the lives of those poor baby stars (hundereds packed in one box vmad.gif )
but if i dont support the smugglers, by the time i am ready to get a star, the price would sure increase like hell (due to stricter laws) tongue.gif

heheh
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QUOTE(ekiddie @ Sep 15 2006, 04:35 AM)
eujax, i haf a Q ah... my razor's carapace's rear will haf some 'fur' alike kind of things... wat's tat ha?? izzit water dirt or wat? can i just brush it off wif like a soft toothbrush?? currently, i alwiz just rub it away wif my hand everytime i change water... if u don get wat i'm saying... here u go the pic as attached...

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as those highlighted... it alwiz stick wif my razors...

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That is caused by the water quality. It is recommended to clean it daily or at least once every 2 day to prevent from the algae and dirty stuff to stick to their shell.

QUOTE(meiteoh @ Sep 15 2006, 07:53 AM)
Hm...exo terra bulbs seem to have short lifespans. Both of my 45W and 70W just blew. So for the weekend and today, Tortue won't have any "direct" light for basking. DAMNIT.

Nice work on the V2 thread and chun turtles/tortoise everyone! (I think my colleague caught my turtle fever. She's getting an RES, me thinks!)
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Yups, i myself have already change 4 times already. sweat.gif Luckily its not that expensive. rolleyes.gif

QUOTE(SoFastSoFurious @ Sep 15 2006, 08:46 AM)
i got it from an aquarium shop ( SIEWEX AQUARIUM)  in Taman Megah. Actually these blue fiber tanks are available at any fish shops. just ask them and they sure got.
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Yeah, i know we can get it almost everywhere. Just that i forget to ask u about the price. tongue.gif

QUOTE(sayasebuk @ Sep 15 2006, 11:48 AM)
a question just popped up in my head
for turtles, since they spend most of their time in water, do i need a long uvb fluroscent to cover the whole length of the tank, or just over the basking area?
i was thinking, can the turtles shell benefit from the uvb rays if their in the water?
hemm  smile.gif
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It is recommended to do so, meaning use a long uvb tube to cover the whole tank and open it 24/7 since it can help giving some UVB to the turtles.
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QUOTE(EuJax @ Sep 15 2006, 01:12 AM)
Just to share some of my turtles... smile.gif
Cheers.
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Eujax, Great collection!! Very nice turtles you got there! What is that pink colour turtle on the grass?? Cantik ler...very very nice smile.gif Ada lagi? Am drooling....



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QUOTE(UPM_Parasite @ Sep 15 2006, 12:58 PM)
How about we all try list out what tortoise @ turtle we got.  icon_rolleyes.gif all must adult 1 and ready to make. it i think will bring alot of success to new generation to our turtle and tortoise.  drool.gif  and also can help to stop the smugglers from stolen the wild 1.  vmad.gif poor little fella. dah lah habitat nak pupus, kena dibuat makanan and ubatan pulak tu!!  icon_question.gif  icon_question.gif  icon_question.gif
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i see urazi has put a post on the ppl active here...
why not add information like

poster:-
0.0.0 tortoise/turtle species
http://image gallery

e.g.

titansulcata:-
0.0.1 - African Sulcata Tortoise (Titan) - DOP: 2006.08.01
0.0.5 - Indian Star Tortoise (Alpha, Beta, Charlie, Delta, Epsilon) - DOP: 2006.09.12
MyTortoise Album


this is one way ppl can know what species we have and also to view the gallery
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QUOTE(titansulcata @ Sep 15 2006, 02:08 PM)
i see urazi has put a post on the ppl active here...
why not add information like

poster:-
0.0.0 tortoise/turtle species
http://image gallery

e.g.

titansulcata:-
0.0.1 - African Sulcata Tortoise (Titan) - DOP: 2006.08.01
0.0.5 - Indian Star Tortoise (Alpha, Beta, Charlie, Delta, Epsilon) - DOP: 2006.09.12
MyTortoise Album
this is one way ppl can know what species we have and also to view the gallery
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Its uzairi. blush.gif . Yeah, i plan to include the turtles we got too. But i scare later Jabatan Perhilitan come and take all those exotic ones. cry.gif whistling.gif

QUOTE(UPM_Parasite @ Sep 15 2006, 05:18 PM)
OK my turn now........
UPM Parasite :
0.0.2 Indian Star Tortoise  wub.gif
DOB : dono (but now i think it around 3 month).
DOP : 14/08/06.

* still far far away from my mating program  mad.gif
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LOL. U buy them with breeding them in mind ? sweat.gif
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QUOTE(UPM_Parasite @ Sep 15 2006, 12:40 PM)
  I think the best solutio nis ->now we buy and let our ST mating then their will give birth to many baby ST.  alot of baby  icon_rolleyes.gif ........ then we sell it more cheaper in shop. then the price will drop and the smuggle dont need seludup ST from India there anymore cheers.gif... about in traditional Chinese medicine, we also cant do anything, what we can do just hope the chinese people mind will change n dont use ST in their mediccine anymore in future.    grumble.gif
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haha. breed can. but make sure dun produce to much baby. if not inflation happens, later after a few years, RM5 for one star, same price wif RES. lol
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QUOTE(uzairi @ Sep 15 2006, 06:13 PM)
Its uzairi.  blush.gif . Yeah, i plan to include the turtles we got too. But i scare later Jabatan Perhilitan come and take all those exotic ones.  cry.gif  whistling.gif
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sorry notworthy.gif wrong speeeling
If jabatan perhilitan wants to take action, they should start with pet shops... and if want to target end users like us... hard to track leh... need to go through a lot of parties...

QUOTE(UPM_Parasite @ Sep 15 2006, 06:23 PM)
Aiyo u know la Jabtan Perhilitan very lazy de...... dont scared la  whistling.gif
Hehehe yalor, it a long times hobby + investment ma, in future (maybe next year after chinese new year) i will use my ang pao money to buy 1 pair of leapord tortoise...
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next year my first year to give ang pow sad.gif rugi

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QUOTE(UPM_Parasite @ Sep 15 2006, 07:21 PM)
tak mungkin la  whistling.gif ....... RM5??? HAHAHA  whistling.gif dont worry la if we produce too much then we sell to china la.....  sweat.gif or export to US  cool.gif
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QUOTE(UPM_Parasite @ Sep 15 2006, 07:28 PM)
Waa so where u live??? hehe  whistling.gif u know what i mean  whistling.gif . i still got far far away to give ang pao, so now need kutip many as i can  cheers.gif
BTW how ur wife 's new rolex???  moneyflies.gif
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this weekend will bring her to find her 'rolex' cry.gif


QUOTE(UPM_Parasite @ Sep 15 2006, 07:31 PM)
Aiyo high risk high return ma.....  whistling.gif who know in future we can export to china with ilgal 1 leh???  whistling.gif
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use the chocolate tortoise technique biggrin.gif and export out whistling.gif
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QUOTE(uzairi @ Sep 15 2006, 12:51 PM)
That is caused by the water quality. It is recommended to clean it daily or at least once every 2 day to prevent from the algae and dirty stuff to stick to their shell.
thanks uzairi and dai86... i'll clean it everytime i see it... de water dirty ha?? i use tap water wor... else, use mineral water meh?? everytime buy, expensive O... hehe...

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QUOTE(UPM_Parasite @ Sep 15 2006, 06:23 PM)
Aiyo u know la Jabtan Perhilitan very lazy de...... dont scared la  whistling.gif
Hehehe yalor, it a long times hobby + investment ma, in future (maybe next year after chinese new year) i will use my ang pao money to buy 1 pair of leapord tortoise...


Test ur knowledge there


PS: in easy mode and vernacular mode i got 93%, in 80 question i got 74.......  vmad.gif  vmad.gif will try play in hard mode tonite  whistling.gif
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QUOTE(prophet007 @ Sep 15 2006, 06:30 PM)
haha. breed can. but make sure dun produce to much baby. if not inflation happens, later after a few years, RM5 for one star, same price wif RES. lol
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QUOTE(titansulcata @ Sep 15 2006, 07:22 PM)
sorry  notworthy.gif  wrong speeeling
If jabatan perhilitan wants to take action, they should start with pet shops... and if want to target end users like us... hard to track leh... need to go through a lot of parties...
next year my first year to give ang pow  sad.gif  rugi
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I dunno wor, i saw ppl with porcupine already kena arrested so now i scare edi.
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http://www.theepochtimes.com/news/6-6-19/42846.html

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On December 10, 2001, Mr. Zhang, a factory owner, ordered a dish called "Indian star tortoise stewed with aweto". It was said that he was looking for a cure for his ailment, and Indian star tortoise was said to be effective in treating certain diseases. Indian star tortoise is a nationally protected animal. If it is for sale, it is being sold illegally. Thus it is very rare and expensive. Even the cultivated ones are sold for 12,000 yuan (US$1,498.35) per kilogram. Mr. Zhang had ordered one kilogram, for which our restaurant would charge him over 10,000 yuan (US$1,248.63). We also added on the cost of the precious aweto herbs.

After the Indian star tortoise was sent over, Rong called Mr. Zhang and asked him to come over and check it. Perhaps Mr. Zhang was reluctant to appear to be too picky, he hesitated. Rong urged, "Mr. Zhang, you have to come to give us some directions. Don't be so old-fashioned. Come and direct us." She flattered him as if he were a specialist. He arrived in high spirits. In order to set his mind at ease, Rong even weighed the tortoise while Mr. Zhang watched.

But the tortoise was not killed. Instead, it was sent back to the storeroom. Rong asked me not to leave after work. At 9:00 pm, after all the staff working in the kitchen had left, Rong asked me to lock the door of the kitchen. Then she took something out of the refrigerator and threw it on the floor. The thing was as hard as stone, and it made a loud thud when it hit the floor. I opened the package and found a dead tortoise inside. Rong laughed and said, "Ah Chang, this tortoise can earn you half a year's salary." Thanks to Rong's help, my salary at that time had been raised to 1200 yuan (US$150) a month. Rong then threw the dead tortoise into a basin, turned on the tap and let the water wash over the tortoise. After about an hour the tortoise had softened. When I fished it out of the basin, a bad smell hit me. I asked Rong to come and have a look. She looked at the dead tortoise, smelled it and frowned, "Oh, Mr. Zhang is in bad luck. He has to eat this stinking tortoise now. But who will eat it if he doesn't? Our boss had asked three shops before he could get this 'inferior item'. After exchanging the good tortoise with this one, we will earn at least 7,000 to 8,000 yuan (approximately US$875 to 1000)."

I was a little frightened. This is a business worth more than 10,000 yuan (US$1250). If Mr. Zhang finds out and rejects the tortoise, who will pay for it? Since he has spent so much we shouldn't give him something which would harm his health. I murmured, "Sometimes we need to demonstrate that we have a conscience." Rong looked at me for a while. Then she sighed, "This is not the time to talk about conscience. Our boss asked us to do this, and we must do what he says. We just have to. Ah Chang, it is true that people should have a conscience, but it really depends on the situation. If Mr. Zhang went to other restaurants, he would eat similar kinds of things. Don't those who want to get rich fake things? We've already tried our best. We are at least better than those who sell fake medicine. It won't make much difference to Mr. Zhang's health whether he eats this tortoise or not." I had nothing to say. After all, we are only carrying out our boss's orders. Why should I worry?

I started washing the tortoise. Rong asked me to discard all of the flesh on it. I couldn't believe what I heard. What shall he eat if all the meat is eliminated? Rong laughed at me and said, "The meat has all decayed. We would be really harming him if we let him eat the meat. So we have to get rid of it. The efficacy of the tortoise lies in its shell anyway. The shell is very hard to cook. After 20 to 30 hours of cooking, the shell won't be dissolved. The reason why I asked Mr. Zhang to come and check the tortoise was to gain his trust. The meat of the tortoise won't last that long. After 20 to 30 hours of cooking, the flesh would have dissolved into the soup. So removing the meat will prevent the bad taste in the soup. Otherwise our deception will be discovered." While she was talking, Rong had taken out some meat from an ordinary tortoise from the refrigerator and put it under the tap to wash. She said, "The meat of the ordinary tortoise can make our dish flawless. Mr. Zhang is really lucky this time. He bought only one tortoise but he will eat two! Of course, when I become rich in the future, I would rather die than eat this kind of thing!" She said laughing loudly. After picking all the meat from the shell of the Indian star tortoise, she stir-fried the shell three times with ginger and shallots. After washing it again, she tasted the shell to make sure there was no strange taste left. Then she put it into the pot to cook. After everything was done, she asked Uncle Chen who was on night duty to watch the tortoise soup and add in some water once in a while. It was 1:00 a.m. when we left.

At about 9:00 a.m. , the Indian star tortoise soup was sent to Mr. Zhang. Later, the cashier told me that Mr. Zhang was not a fool. He felt the soup was not as good as that served at the Tianshan restaurant. He also had loose bowels after he ate our dish. So he phoned our restaurant to complain, exclaiming that he wanted to be reimbursed 3,000 yuan. Our boss summoned Rong to find out what had happened. She came back looking very unhappy.

Four days later, I didn't see Chef Ah Bing. I asked around and was told that he had been fired the previous evening. It was said that a lot of customers had complained about our soups recently. I knew that the true problem was related to the tortoise soup. The boss didn't know that the soup was actually cooked by Rong and me, nor did Ah Bing know that his dismissal was caused by a pot of soup that he had not cooked. So Ah Bing was a victim of our deviousness. No matter what, the restaurant still made a profit through selling this tortoise soup, even if it was less than expected.

I didn't dare tell anyone what we had done. I felt dreadful for continuing to work with Rong. I might end up being a scapegoat for her in the future. I wanted to get away from her. So I started to keep my distance, and often found faults with her, which Rong noticed.

I was subsequently fired.


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QUOTE(uzairi @ Sep 15 2006, 07:58 PM)
I dunno wor, i saw ppl with porcupine already kena arrested so now i scare edi.
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QUOTE(UPM_Parasite @ Sep 15 2006, 07:58 PM)
now got 1 good new 1 bad new......

Good new = i wan change my fella to Yin Yin and Yang Yang.... (it stand for yin yang in chinese culture)  drool.gif
Bad new = i just separate with my gf ( that y i chnage my tort name)  cry.gif
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never mind, not the end of the road yet mate...
Good news = can buy more tortoises and no girl will stop u
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hahaaa!! good kind of good news!! laugh.gif

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so upm... buying more tortoise after tis?? hahaaa!! yeaH!! icon_idea.gif

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QUOTE(titansulcata @ Sep 15 2006, 08:08 PM)
mind to share a bit more info...
never mind, not the end of the road yet mate...
Good news = can buy more tortoises and no girl will stop u
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I saw it at Bulletin Utama TV3.

upm, look at the bright side and walk forward. flex.gif U still have ur torts aite ?
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QUOTE(UPM_Parasite @ Sep 15 2006, 08:21 PM)
cant la....... hutang sekeliling pingang, need pay back 1st.... sob  cry.gif  sob  cry.gif tel bill dah kena potong hoi!!!!
see 1st la, my plan is wan 1 pair of sulcata and 1 pair of leopord (so need around RM2K).....  doh.gif
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hey hey hey!! here is a tortoise turtle terrapin forum, not a 'love probloem forum'! hehe... anyway, i also bujang lah! hehe...

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hey hey hey!! here is a tortoise turtle terrapin forum, not a 'love probloem forum'! hehe... anyway, i also bujang lah! hehe...

oo... here my small starz pic. hehe....
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Same size and different bloodline. Nice. The bedding cukup makan oni ar ?
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haiya...actually i planing to put them in my 'sui gong' 'room', then sui gong in bigger 'room', but too buzy cleaning my own room till no time to clean their. hehe...

but good mah same size. hehe.. they won't fight, but my 'older' starz (the one on the left in one by one pic) sometimes will merajuk oh, walk here and there hardly... hehe... like it is trying to catch my attention. hehe... but i love two the same. hehe... now planing to get a pair of pancakes.. hehe...
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ekiddie, i dont know exactly what is that on your Razorback but i believe it is like what the others said, some sort of algae thing. Did you keep your water circulating ie a filter pump? Water cleanliness is the best key.

People, that Impressa is not mine and i have no idea what causes its death but as you know, they are the most difficult tortoise one can take care of. I believe it started with stress and later refuse to eat and during the transport from Cameron, it has developed illness. When it comes to shop, it didnt make it till the end. sad.gif Sad yes i am sad. Recently, in one week in fact, i have known two dead Impressa. Not funny.

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A simple question, do anyone here prefer Leopard Tortoise over Star Tortoise? It seems like less people are into Leopard Tortoise....why?



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The price I would say... leopard more expensive than star... oh, I wanted a leopard but coz money tak da, get star loh heheeh...
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bulletin utama show a fella wif porcupine being caught?? ha?? got meH?? actually, in malaysia is there any law saying tat we CAN'T own exotic animals??

eujax... ya, i think de one sticking on my razorback's carapace shud be wat they said... some algae or dirt... will clean it everytime i see it... ei, where can i buy de stinkpot or others musk turtles ar?? i'm very interested... hehe...

dai86... nice stars... infact, i luv tortoises too... they are way so cute but then i live in an apartment... i really haf no space for them... moreover they will need direct sunlight... i just can't pet them... i don want to kill them and not helping them to a better life if i pet them over...

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Actually, it is illegal to catch wild animals and take them as pets in Malaysia... but our law still a bit slow loh.

Soon, star tortoises may need licence but that was just said, not done yet... I heard it last year summore...

Porcupine and Pangolin, the wild ones in our forest is illegal to keep... if you caught keeping one can kena high fine loh. I dunno bout tortoises and turtles though.... still, we gotta be careful.
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if so... i wonder why de law enforcer don go to terrenganu and catch all those buggers tat sell turtle eggs for a meal... duH! sea turtles and getting lesser and lesser and everytime 1000 release... only 1 will survive all the obstacles in de sea... a very high in de list of endangered species... yet they are selling it openly in market... and worst is got ppl buy and eat it! vmad.gif

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Actually, they do catch... just cannot catch everyone of them. Also, the enforces dunno when or where the turtles lay eggs, as in their direct spot, so sometimes it's hard for them to monitor. Also, there are more turtle egg stealers than there are enforces...
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QUOTE(EuJax @ Sep 15 2006, 10:50 PM)
A simple question, do anyone here prefer Leopard Tortoise over Star Tortoise? It seems like less people are into Leopard Tortoise....why?
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Actually, it is illegal to catch wild animals and take them as pets in Malaysia... but our law still a bit slow loh.

Soon, star tortoises may need licence but that was just said, not done yet... I heard it last year summore...

Porcupine and Pangolin, the wild ones in our forest is illegal to keep... if you caught keeping one can kena high fine loh. I dunno bout tortoises and turtles though.... still, we gotta be careful.
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The price diffference is big, not all can afford it including me.
That's why i never tell anybody what's in my collection.
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ekiddie, the razorback is available in Ikano Pet Safari now and the Stinkpot i am not sure, i got it from a normal fish shop. Cant remember its name but its the only pair they have so....am not aware of other place.



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QUOTE(EuJax @ Sep 16 2006, 12:57 AM)
We know what you have smile.gif  tongue.gif  heheh kidding. Anyway thanks for sharing the view about preference of Star to Leopard Tortoise. I am looking forward to get the Leopard...lets see how it goes.
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thx eujax for ur feedback... i've oledi have the razorbacks... i do want a stinkpot or a loggerhead... any musk turtles but not razors...

nvm then... thx!

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hehe.. another thing bout leopard and star... leopard will grow till so huge but not star. thats is why i like star more. hehe... later all tortoise and turtle need lesence then habislah! hehe... uzairi have to pay for..... $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$! haha...
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hehe.. another thing bout leopard and star... leopard will grow till so huge but not star. thats is why i like star more. hehe... later all tortoise and turtle need lesence then habislah! hehe... uzairi have to pay for..... $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$! haha...
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The Leopard tortoise (Geochelone pardalis) is a large, grazing species of tortoise that favors semi-arid (not dry), thorny to grassland habitats. On average, they are about 40-45 cm (16-18 inches) long and weigh 18-23 kg (40-50 pounds) (although some reach up to 60 cm (24 inches) and 32 kg (70 lbs)). They generally have a life span of 50 years.
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yalar, leopard can grow big. and when they grow big, their leopard marking won't be that sharp... star is so much cuter

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as said all these tortoise lives on dry land... but in de wild... it does rain and heavy downpour mar, rite... so, where all these guys hide?? wat if flooded? will these fellas died? or de habitats of these tortoise won't have downpour and plain sunlight?

hehe... know nothing much about tortoises tho...

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Leopard looks very nice when they are young, not so when they grow up though smile.gif haahaa i wish i can afford.

Sad to hear bout the impressa, eujax. Hope it rest in peace.



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as said all these tortoise lives on dry land... but in de wild... it does rain and heavy downpour mar, rite... so, where all these guys hide?? wat if flooded? will these fellas died? or de habitats of these tortoise won't have downpour and plain sunlight?

hehe... know nothing much about tortoises tho...

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In the wild, well, most of the land tortoises try to stay on the dry areas.... when rain, if a little is ok, they do enjoy a little rain. If say african and indian tortoises... well, they don't get much rain. But when flood, they drown... no choice. But most of the tortoises will go to higher land sometimes...
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QUOTE(dai86 @ Sep 16 2006, 08:57 AM)
hehe.. another thing bout leopard and star... leopard will grow till so huge but not star. thats is why i like star more. hehe... later all tortoise and turtle need lesence then habislah! hehe... uzairi have to pay for..... $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$! haha...
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but can rear in garden and throw vegetables plus carrots and rear as big impressive pet wor hehehe
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hahaaa!! showing off!! tongue.gif

btw... show us some pics of de leopards u r having...

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QUOTE(hwa107 @ Sep 16 2006, 01:14 AM)
who know he got something that's much more rarer than that lol! like like galapagos giant tortoise  biggrin.gif
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hehe.. another thing bout leopard and star... leopard will grow till so huge but not star. thats is why i like star more. hehe... later all tortoise and turtle need lesence then habislah! hehe... uzairi have to pay for..... $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$! haha...
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yes, they are quite sensitive to detecting temperature changes. they can even travel in the direction of the rainstorm, like galapagos tortoises. some burrow into the ground, only to come out when the floods subside, while others let themselves be carried away by the flood tides only to find themselves in another place  tongue.gif . It all depends on the type of habitat and the species.
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dudes... is 'water fish' called chinese softshells?

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Err, im not sure about that. Does 'water fish' looks like a softshell ? If it does, then the answer is yes. If not then its not. laugh.gif
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yeah, 'water fish' is a softshell turtle. labi labi. you can find them chopped up plastrons in herbal soups. sad.gif
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as i checked in ATP... they haf alot of sub species of softshells... got chinese softshells, got black rays softshells, native american softshells and many more... since so many chinese loves em... i just roughly shoot whether izzit a chinese softshells lor...

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eujax... can i ask u why is ur razorbacks in different colors or one of em (de lighter color one) is not a razor but other species?

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QUOTE(ekiddie @ Sep 16 2006, 08:22 PM)
as i checked in ATP... they haf alot of sub species of softshells... got chinese softshells, got black rays softshells, native american softshells and many more... since so many chinese loves em... i just roughly shoot whether izzit a chinese softshells lor...

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eujax... can i ask u why is ur razorbacks in different colors or one of em (de lighter color one) is not a razor but other species?

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btw, how old oledi u haf de razorbacks ar?

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QUOTE(ekiddie @ Sep 16 2006, 08:34 PM)
eujax... can i ask u why is ur razorbacks in different colors or one of em (de lighter color one) is not a razor but other species?

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Well i guess its like what Uzairi said, different bloodline. They are around 3 years old. It is a Razorback no doubt on that. Anyway did you manage to find your Stinkpot? I think they stink on me this morning when i cleaned them laugh.gif



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Yes 'water fish' or 'sui yee' is one type of softshell. I like Florida Softshell...kicking myself for not getting it earlier when they are available in pet shops sad.gif


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Yes 'water fish' or 'sui yee' is one type of softshell. I like Florida Softshell...kicking myself for not getting it earlier when they are available in pet shops sad.gif
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but one drawback tho, is that softshells can be quite susceptible to shell rot or ulcers because of their ...um....soft shells..! if you keep a softshell do make sure you have a good filter running in your tank and do regular water changes. keeping it in stagnant water without filter is likely to cause disease to the turtle.
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but one drawback tho, is that softshells can be quite susceptible to shell rot or ulcers because of their ...um....soft shells..! if you keep a softshell do make sure you have a good filter running in your tank and do regular water changes. keeping it in stagnant water without filter is likely to cause disease to the turtle.
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ya... chinese ate those softshells turtles and served it in soup... errkss... so, are they 'chinese softshells'?? hahaaa! still no answer on that... tongue.gif

i got my softshell as wat they called 'water fish' d... it's very active tho... tho just hatchling... they got a very long neck than i expect too... and from alot of sites on softshells... they are an agressive turtles to handle... anyone here had pet it till adult?

eujax... no... haven't bumped into any stinkpot yet... if u do, do lemme know okie! thx... hehe... and i think my razors too do have some stinks on them... it's their defense i think when being handled... but does stinkpot 'really' stinks as much as it's name?

florida softshells? any difference? got pics? hehe...

de other day i went to Ikano and i saw an albino softshell for sale... then the coming week i went there again and wat left was just the empty aquarium... SOLD! who bought it?? anyone in here?

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QUOTE(ekiddie @ Sep 16 2006, 10:49 PM)
ya... chinese ate those softshells turtles and served it in soup... errkss... so, are they 'chinese softshells'?? hahaaa! still no answer on that... tongue.gif

i got my softshell as wat they called 'water fish' d... it's very active tho... tho just hatchling... they got a very long neck than i expect too... and from alot of sites on softshells... they are an agressive turtles to handle... anyone here had pet it till adult?

eujax... no... haven't bumped into any stinkpot yet... if u do, do lemme know okie! thx... hehe... and i think my razors too do have some stinks on them... it's their defense i think when being handled... but does stinkpot 'really' stinks as much as it's name?

florida softshells? any difference? got pics? hehe...

de other day i went to Ikano and i saw an albino softshell for sale... then the coming week i went there again and wat left was just the empty aquarium... SOLD! who bought it?? anyone in here?

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same thing with the mata mata...i don't suppose anyone has mata mata hatchlings for sale? i bet those adults are wild caught pieces.

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funkychips, You are absolutely right smile.gif All turtles need to be kept in clean condition. Water based ones especially.
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when de wood grows fungus ah... will that be harmful to our turtles ar?? mine do grows white spot fungus too... but they don when wholely 'in' water... coz' as for me, part of it are left on open air for my turtles to come out from the water...

just worry tat those fungus are harmful to them...

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Im not sure, but its better to avoid it. And all the feeding fish that i put died in less than 1 hour. my snapper looks sick too. My snapper are fully inside the water and the wood that i was mentioning is the tank cover.
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i think is better clean those thing lah. hehe...
i use to pet a softshell before till it is adult palm size big, just in 6 month. hehe... but it is very very agresive!! i big all the fish, included my last time fresh water lobster and my flower horn! hehe.... i already released it into FRIM there, and my flower horn already long time in a lake (long time no go edi dunno still alive not) and my lobster already go reincarnation! hehe...

tomolo my boss say he will bring all his tortoise came to the stall (stars, pancakes and elongated). huh... looking forward to see the pancakes! hehe.... i will snap some pic and post here~
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i used to rear a softshell (not sure which type though..) a few years back. I rear it from small till really big...like a full adult size. I didn't use any kind of filter or anything. Just normal stagnant water...and it survived for a couple of years! that's the amazing part.
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mm.. me too, when it small i just put it in a small plastic aquarium but i keep changing the water once a day! hehe...
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I also did that to all my turtles. Once a day is a must to ensure the water is clean. A bit tired doing it but it is fun. laugh.gif
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yup~ hehe... but now i only got stars, so i don't need to change any water! haha....
but i have to change the turtle water in my stall! huh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! headache.!
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Oooh i never know 'shui yee' is so ganas...softshell they are but hard beaks they have huh? smile.gif Problably not for me, wont be able to handle ganas ones! Loss my finger!!

What other local tortoise do we have apart from Elongata?



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QUOTE(EuJax @ Sep 16 2006, 10:08 PM)
ekiddie,

Well i guess its like what Uzairi said, different bloodline. They are around 3 years old. It is a Razorback no doubt on that. Anyway did you manage to find your Stinkpot? I think they stink on me this morning when i cleaned them  laugh.gif
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impressed torotise also malaysia have! hehe...
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I dont recommend Impressed Tortoise for beginners though smile.gif Not fun not fun... sweat.gif

Burmese Brown Tortoise is also local species but they get pretty huge and of course Elongate Tortoise as you mentioned...apart from that...cant think of any that is native to Malaysia.



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Elongated, Impressed and Burmese Mountain tortoise is among of them. I forget a few more which is native in asian. Btw, Burmese mountain got 2 subspecies which is Burmese Black and Burmese Brown tortoise.
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kamekame... those turtles are called razorback and it's from the musk turtles species... and one thing... it stinks! hahaaa!

i'm petting 1 softshells now... in a plastic aquarium... din mix it wif my razorbacks and RES... don want it to kill de rest and conquer the aquarium by itself...

as i read in ATP sites... softshells are NOT recommended for beginners... it's an advance keeper's kind of turtles... so don buy tis turtles for ur kids... don see tat hatchling time it's cute... well, it bites! isK! blink.gif

dai86... i alwiz heard u said ur boss and u mentioning a shop... where is this shop of urs? maybe we all can drop by when we are free to ur shop for a look... hehe...

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well, there is a stall in selayang mall (where i incharge) and our shop in mutiara jalan ipoh there. haha... our business are still new, so we are still developing it. we only have little basic thing like pets, food, and some cage as our product~ hehe... some here know where lah cause they went and see and eventually buy before sweat.gif sweat.gif sweat.gif . haha... whistling.gif whistling.gif whistling.gif

ooo... beside star tortoise, leopard tortoise, and sulcata, anyone own others type of tortoise? like red foot, yellow foot, chaco, pancakes... (except uzairi lah) hehe... ( i am looking for a chaco~~ wub.gif wub.gif wub.gif )

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O... it's INSIDE selayang mall lar... okie okie... maybe free2 can drop by... and i never know in mutiara jalan ipoh oso haf pet shops inside as i've been there b4 way up above to a law firm up there...

any turtles u r carrying... got stinkpots? i'm interested in water based turtles...

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would like to know wat TTT u r carrying in ur shop... hehe...

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QUOTE(EuJax @ Sep 17 2006, 01:19 AM)
I dont recommend Impressed Tortoise for beginners though smile.gif Not fun not fun... sweat.gif

Burmese Brown Tortoise is also local species but they get pretty huge and of course Elongate Tortoise as you mentioned...apart from that...cant think of any that is native to Malaysia.
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Elongated, Impressed and Burmese Mountain tortoise is among of them. I forget a few more which is native in asian. Btw, Burmese mountain got 2 subspecies which is Burmese Black and Burmese Brown tortoise.
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QUOTE(dai86 @ Sep 16 2006, 11:57 PM)
i think is better clean those thing lah. hehe...
i use to pet a softshell before till it is adult palm size big, just in 6 month. hehe... but it is very very agresive!! i big all the fish, included my last time fresh water lobster and my flower horn! hehe.... i already released it into FRIM there, and my flower horn already long time in a lake (long time no go edi dunno still alive not) and my lobster already go reincarnation! hehe...

tomolo my boss say he will bring all his tortoise came to the stall (stars, pancakes and elongated). huh... looking forward to see the pancakes! hehe.... i will snap some pic and post here~
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speaking of labi-labi, now i recall that when i was small my dad has a very big labi-labi, i think it's is around 1 and half foot long, almost as big as a basin! the color is light brown color if i remember, no one dare to touch the labi-labi coz ppl say that when labi-labi bite they dun let go your hand laugh.gif

but the labi-labi was kept in a very bad condition though, the water is very dirty and the smell is awful!
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QUOTE(dai86 @ Sep 17 2006, 08:48 AM)
ooo... beside star tortoise, leopard tortoise, and sulcata, anyone own others type of tortoise? like red foot, yellow foot, chaco, pancakes... (except uzairi lah) hehe... ( i am looking for a chaco~~ wub.gif  wub.gif  wub.gif )
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that's de reason why i'm not getting tortoises... coz' i knew i don have places for them when they grow bigger and bigger... moreover, i'm staying in apartments... so, i really got no place for them under the sun... hmm... else, i sure will buy a sulcata... hehe...

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U can get an Elongated Tortoise, they wont grow that big. Furthermore its the cheapest tortoise.
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QUOTE(ekiddie @ Sep 17 2006, 04:28 PM)
that's de reason why i'm not getting tortoises... coz' i knew i don have places for them when they grow bigger and bigger... moreover, i'm staying in apartments... so, i really got no place for them under the sun... hmm... else, i sure will buy a sulcata... hehe...

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well, it will not grow big overnight... it will take years.

for sulcata, based on size... it is still possible to keep em indoor until it is 5 to 7 years old+ (i think)... by the time when it has to be kept outdoor...look at it as if u are rearing a dog with different requirements

no sun? no problem, buy UVB bulb/lamp lor

will u be staying in the apartment after 5 years? time to buy/rent landed property then lor

actually, if u r afraid of size, just get a star... it will not grow that big and can be kept indoor all the time
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cheapest is elongated ar?? but it don look nice as compared to stars and sulcata... hehe...

nice elaboration from titansulcata... a good direct poison tat is! hahaaa!! but true oso on wat u said... it's cute and hatchling times is de most hard times to be, rite...

lemme think about it... now all my turtles are water based turtles... no tortoises and oso never pet any before... alwiz like those lil' ones in hatchling...

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QUOTE(kamekame8888 @ Sep 17 2006, 01:49 PM)
Thank you to both of you...i would not dare to try the Impressa tortoise for sure. Elongate maybe...or some water based turtles...Stinkpot...even Razorback stinks? wow...susah laa ni...afterd my whole room stink! tongue.gif
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Well actually Razors dont stink like what Stinkpots do. Stinkpot have the ability to produce the smelly odour from the inner part of their limbs while Razor dont.

As for beginner, i would say a water based turtle is easier to take care of, just make sure you have a good setup with filtration system. Try to get a Red Ear Slider maybe? Or even a Malayan Box Turtle is interesting smile.gif I like them very much myself. Good luck in your hunt.



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Uzairi, hows your Ally Snapping Turtle? I hope they are fine. Anyway that is water concern and sometimes its the shipment of the fish as well. How did you store your snapper? In an aquarium? They actually produce some acid over time so its best to change the water every week or the most two weeks..that is if you have the water running as in filtrating. Just my 2c.



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QUOTE(dai86 @ Sep 17 2006, 08:48 AM)
well, there is a stall in selayang mall (where i incharge) and our shop in mutiara jalan ipoh there. haha... our business are still new, so we are still developing it. we only have little basic thing like pets, food, and some cage as our product~ hehe... some here know where lah cause they went and see and eventually buy before sweat.gif  sweat.gif  sweat.gif . haha... whistling.gif  whistling.gif  whistling.gif

ooo... beside star tortoise, leopard tortoise, and sulcata, anyone own others type of tortoise? like red foot, yellow foot, chaco, pancakes... (except uzairi lah) hehe... ( i am looking for a chaco~~ wub.gif  wub.gif  wub.gif )
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how much is a sulcata normally? i've never seen any petshops selling them before.
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how much is a sulcata normally? i've never seen any petshops selling them before.
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QUOTE(ekiddie @ Sep 17 2006, 05:10 PM)
cheapest is elongated ar?? but it don look nice as compared to stars and sulcata... hehe...
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Uzairi, hows your Ally Snapping Turtle? I hope they are fine. Anyway that is water concern and sometimes its the shipment of the fish as well. How did you store your snapper? In an aquarium? They actually produce some acid over time so its best to change the water every week or the most two weeks..that is if you have the water running as in filtrating. Just my 2c.
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de price of a stars still OK... de price of the sulcata are sure high for a tortoise beginner...

i think last month liddat i've seen an ally snapper in the pet shop in Petaling Street tat do sell exotics like snakes and tarantulas... well, tat snapper is baby snapper i guess... (or izzit mata mata... can't differentiate tho... hehe...) and selling for RM450... but poor guy were treated badly... they put it inside a stagnant of low water inside a plastic container (neh... those plastic containers where u go Tesco or Carrefour buy those mee goreng ready to eat type in a plastic container...) those type lor... kesian oso... and de water we muddy color d... hmm... treated badly... donno now they still have it or not? de last time i went to Petaling Street, i din went into tat shop...

anyone been to tat shop and save de poor turtle?

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one more if anyone of u went to Pudu... i'm sure u'll bumped into 2 star tortoises in a small enclosure... asked de price and it will cost us RM1K++ for one... they oso very arrogrant too... huh! mad.gif

de hatchling they are selling for RM98...

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QUOTE(ekiddie @ Sep 17 2006, 08:07 PM)
de price of a stars still OK... de price of the sulcata are sure high for a tortoise beginner...

i think last month liddat i've seen an ally snapper in the pet shop in Petaling Street tat do sell exotics like snakes and tarantulas... well, tat snapper is baby snapper i guess... (or izzit mata mata... can't differentiate tho... hehe...) and selling for RM450... but poor guy were treated badly... they put it inside a stagnant of low water inside a plastic container (neh... those plastic containers where u go Tesco or Carrefour buy those mee goreng ready to eat type in a plastic container...) those type lor... kesian oso... and de water we muddy color d... hmm... treated badly... donno now they still have it or not? de last time i went to Petaling Street, i din went into tat shop...

anyone been to tat shop and save de poor turtle?

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Which shop in Petaling Street ? I never been there and dont know how to go there too. laugh.gif Is there lots of choices there ? And i dont think that's a snapper baby with that price. Its a mata-mata baby i guess.
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there are a few shops around petaling street area (which the jalan sultan ones oso considered count as petaling street area lor...) most of them sell dogs n cats and a 1 or 2 mainly on birds...

there's one shop which they do have exotics but u'll never haf guess from the outlook that they have this exotics... it's hidden from the look coz' most buyers are lured in to see dogs and cats... and another thing is those shops are old and looks dirty which indeed they are... hmm...

the most 'new' and clean pet shops ard in petaling street area is petsmore lor... have a radiated and baby stars... if i can recall, de radiated are RM1.5K and baby stars are priced at RM120 or RM130...

it's not worth purposely going to have a look... not tat they are way more cheaper... but if passby, no harm taking a sneak peak lor... hehe...

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uzairi... i got nothing to do now and i saw ur link on 'My pet's picture'... i clicked on it and i saw ur alligator turtles! whoa! drool.gif

it looks coOL! looks so fierce like a mini alligator... ei, mind telling me what is de price range for an alligator turtle? i've never seen any in pet shops yet... won't cost a hand and a leg wan, izzit??

ur shot of ur alligator aka hunter damn is coOL ler... thumbup.gif

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Well, for babies it costs around rm200. Big ones depends on the colour, and how nice it looks. Roughly i would say rm500 for a nice ones. But they are limited so its hard to find them. There's 2 in Pets Family at ss24/8 but they costs rm1k like that if im not mistaken. sweat.gif
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if i can recall correctly, i think i saw them before in pet shops my fren brought me to de time my fren is looking for sugar glider... i remembered now...

it was these kind of alligator turtles and they have a full tanks of em... but i din notice the price as tat time i wasn't interested in exotics turtles... (tat time oledi having my 2 RES)

i did saw it snap de small fishes... but i din saw de price... and i saw alot of em... all are hatchlings...

so, it's priced at >RM200 for hatchlings ha?? okie okie... price range noted... thanks for it... if i did bumped into any, i won't looked dumb on de pricing... hahaaa!

so, how's ur hunter now? de one u said not feeling so well is hunter or predator? and wat's de SCL for ur predator now?

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uzairi, elongated is more expensive than star tortoise now lah. hehe.. so stars is still the cheapest tortoise in market.

ooo.... water basic turtle...i think we got two. one is a razorback if i not mistaken. another one is new one, is something that look like a Three-keeled Musk Turtle (i say it depend on what he told me, that is the turtle shell shape like a 'w' )

i saw the pancakes tortoise at last...eee... it is not as what i thinking before...... huh~~~ so i decided not to add it into my pet list! hehe... now i will stop with my 3 stars, and while waiting for chaco tortoise, i will rare sugar glider! haha...

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uh uh! double post again. why in here most of us keep on double post ah? hehe...

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is in g floor lah. got time came find me lah! hehe..

ooo...i dun like leopard and sulcata and also radiated...cause they are too big! hehe... i like small tortoise with bright color~~ like star and chaco. hehe...

oh ya, uzairi, the selling price for 3 inch elongated and bout 5 inch pancakes is rm300 and rm350. hehe... pancakes is much cheaper than the elongated. huh~
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dai86... three keeled musk turtle?? can get pics of it?? hehe...

and i'll try to ask my fren on de sugar glider for u... he might wants to sell it... hehe...

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QUOTE(ekiddie @ Sep 18 2006, 12:11 AM)
if i can recall correctly, i think i saw them before in pet shops my fren brought me to de time my fren is looking for sugar glider... i remembered now...

it was these kind of alligator turtles and they have a full tanks of em... but i din notice the price as tat time i wasn't interested in exotics turtles... (tat time oledi having my 2 RES)

i did saw it snap de small fishes... but i din saw de price... and i saw alot of em... all are hatchlings...

so, it's priced at >RM200 for hatchlings ha?? okie okie... price range noted... thanks for it... if i did bumped into any, i won't looked dumb on de pricing... hahaaa!

so, how's ur hunter now? de one u said not feeling so well is hunter or predator? and wat's de SCL for ur predator now?

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is in g floor lah. got time came find me lah! hehe..

ooo...i dun like leopard and sulcata and also radiated...cause they are too big! hehe... i like small tortoise with bright color~~ like star and chaco. hehe...

oh ya, uzairi, the selling price for 3 inch elongated and bout 5 inch pancakes is rm300 and rm350. hehe... pancakes is much cheaper than the elongated. huh~
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uzairi... it's pet's family as wat it's name is... i din know till i saw it in this forum... i just followed my fren over last time... i remembered coz' tat time there's this cayman alligator which is so nice displayed inside de aquarium... and de hatchling snappers are just nearby it... tat's why i can recall... but it was 2 years++ back lor... i think... hehe...

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and another things uzairi... ur pet sabertooth, wat kind it is? nice! cool.gif

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QUOTE(ekiddie @ Sep 18 2006, 01:47 AM)
uzairi... it's pet's family as wat it's name is... i din know till i saw it in this forum... i just followed my fren over last time... i remembered coz' tat time there's this cayman alligator which is so nice displayed inside de aquarium... and de hatchling snappers are just nearby it... tat's why i can recall... but it was 2 years++ back lor... i think... hehe...

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and another things uzairi... ur pet sabertooth, wat kind it is? nice!  cool.gif

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Asian Giant Pond Turtle, or their scientific name Heosysms Grandis. thumbup.gif
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but they was alot of 'em for sale 2 years back... who bought it all?? i tot it was u! hahaaa! tongue.gif

neway, very nice asian giant pond turtle u have there... great one! thumbup.gif

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Nah, its not me. I just started this hobby roughly 1 year back. And yeah, my small ally snapper and both my star tortoise jem and ringgo already been with me for 1 year. wub.gif
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QUOTE(uzairi @ Sep 15 2006, 12:51 PM)
It is recommended to do so, meaning use a long uvb tube to cover the whole tank and open it 24/7 since it can help giving some UVB to the turtles.
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Yo just wan upload some tortoise table that i find from net :
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Toxic Plants!!!!

sulcata

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now got 1 good new 1 bad new......

Good new = i wan change my fella to Yin Yin and Yang Yang.... (it stand for yin yang in chinese culture)  drool.gif
Bad new = i just separate with my gf ( that y i chnage my tort name)  cry.gif
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QUOTE(ekiddie @ Sep 18 2006, 01:52 AM)
dai86... three keeled musk turtle?? can get pics of it?? hehe...

and i'll try to ask my fren on de sugar glider for u... he might wants to sell it... hehe...

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thanks. ask him sell me cheaper. hehe...

uzairi, the elongated we selling is that last time i show it's pic one lah, huh~~ who say we sell more expensive? outside also is hard to look for elongated lah~ huh~~ vmad.gif

that -three kneel turtle i still not have change to have a look yet, since they only get it on saturday. maybe today or tomolo they put put it in the stall~ hehe... then i can take pic of it~
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dai86, did you mean RM300 for Pancake? Or RM350? Cheers.



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QUOTE(sayasebuk @ Sep 18 2006, 09:35 AM)
So this means the uvb rays CAN penetrate water la?
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QUOTE(dai86 @ Sep 18 2006, 09:36 AM)
uzairi, the elongated we selling is that last time i show it's pic one lah, huh~~ who say we sell more expensive? outside also is hard to look for elongated lah~ huh~~ vmad.gif

that -three kneel turtle i still not have change to have a look yet, since they only get it on saturday. maybe today or tomolo they put put it in the stall~ hehe... then i can take pic of it~
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Hard kah ? Here its easy to get it.

Can i have a look at the 3 Keeled Box Turtle when u get ur hands on it ?
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Uzairi, i think dai86 meant the 3 Stripe Musk Turtle not Keeled Box Turtle. Here is a picture to share smile.gif Anyway, if its true that its the Keeled Box turtle, grab it! Its beautiful smile.gif Just my 2c.

UPM, i havent seen that one before. Very beautiful tortoise but i wonder if its a cross breed. Havent come across the scientific name as well. Thanks for sharing. Where did you find that picture?



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So this means the uvb rays CAN penetrate water la?
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"Reflective surfaces such as water and newly fallen snow increase UV levels. UV rays can penetrate water. UVA is not blocked by glass, while UVB is blocked. Air pollution can also reduce UV levels."

Reference:- http://ohioline.osu.edu/cd-fact/0199.html
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QUOTE(uzairi @ Sep 18 2006, 02:19 AM)
Nah, its not me. I just started this hobby roughly 1 year back. And yeah, my small ally snapper and both my star tortoise jem and ringgo already been with me for 1 year. wub.gif
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QUOTE(dai86 @ Sep 18 2006, 12:17 AM)
uzairi, elongated is more expensive than star tortoise now lah. hehe.. so stars is still the cheapest tortoise in market.

ooo.... water basic turtle...i think we got two. one is a razorback if i not mistaken. another one is new one, is something that look like a  Three-keeled Musk Turtle (i say it depend on what he told me, that is the turtle shell shape like a 'w' )

i saw the pancakes tortoise at last...eee... it is not as what i thinking before...... huh~~~ so i decided not to add it into my pet list! hehe... now i will stop with my 3 stars, and while waiting for chaco tortoise, i will rare sugar glider! haha...
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Dai,

Nice Pancake smile.gif why you say its not like what you think? Different from what you expect ke? Anyway what is 3 Keeled Musk Turtle? Same family to Razorback?

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QUOTE(Drascox @ Sep 18 2006, 12:11 PM)
CONGRATS!!! so fast page 9!!! hahaha
more TTT !!!!
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QUOTE(UPM_Parasite @ Sep 18 2006, 12:12 PM)
Waaa only 2 day i dont online already sampai 9's pages liao...... so fast fast.

  Kamekame :
i think this also can consider as local breed la, Manouria emys....
Manouria emys

BTW who know this breed ??? Homopous aeurolatus, it look so cool with yellow + red shell.
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Manouria Emys is Burmese Mountain Tortoise. I already told about it few pages back. And Burmese Mountain got 2 sub species which are burmese black and burmese brown.

QUOTE(EuJax @ Sep 18 2006, 12:26 PM)
Uzairi, i think dai86 meant the 3 Stripe Musk Turtle not Keeled Box Turtle. Here is a picture to share smile.gif Anyway, if its true that its the Keeled Box turtle, grab it! Its beautiful smile.gif Just my 2c.
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QUOTE(UPM_Parasite @ Sep 18 2006, 12:35 PM)
BTW can we just mix accross the tortoise breed meh?? wonder what happen when we can mix it (like we mix the dog)  rclxub.gif leopord + sulcata = Porata???  sweat.gif sulcata + star = sultan ???  sweat.gif
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We can crossbreed them as long as they are in the same family. Lets say Geochelone family, we have Geochelon Elegans(Indian Star), Geochelone Playnota(Burmese Star), Geochelone Pardalis(Leopard Tortoise), Geochelone Radiata(Radiated Tortoise), Geochelone Carbonaria(Redfoot Tortoise), Geochelone Denticulata(Yellowfoot Tortoise) can be crossbreed among them. thumbup.gif

Its just that people prefer to have it purebreed. Like persian cat, if its a mixed one nobody interested. rolleyes.gif
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well... i went the pet's family today... just passing by so drop off awhile and went in for a quick round! hehe...

no hatchlings around except for hatchling RES and 1 dead RES in de tank... they are selling 1 RES for RM10!

and i saw 4 ally snapper there... all grown... and no price tag and i guess it's not for sale... got yellow belly turtles going for RM90 each and got 3 of em i think...

got other types of water based turtles too which i donno wat species are they which they are on de floor with tag and were in small plastic tanks... all were adult too...

they got pancake tortoises... alot of em... priced at RM450... stars they haf it too and they don have much... they haf pancakes more than stars... and they don have sulcata! all no more hatchling... adults... but i still like de ally snapper... looked damn fierce... and so steady in de still water... scary yet coOL!

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Hatchling sensitive mah... very prone to diseases.... I have experienced this before. Pet Family get older stock so that they got less chance of dying. Other countries, even RES gotta be sold at minimum of 4 inches... but RES here people only want small small plus they are easier to maintain than land tortoises in terms habitat.
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QUOTE(ekiddie @ Sep 18 2006, 07:07 PM)
well... i went the pet's family today... just passing by so drop off awhile and went in for a quick round! hehe...

no hatchlings around except for hatchling RES and 1 dead RES in de tank... they are selling 1 RES for RM10!

and i saw 4 ally snapper there... all grown... and no price tag and i guess it's not for sale... got yellow belly turtles going for RM90 each and got 3 of em i think...

got other types of water based turtles too which i donno wat species are they which they are on de floor with tag and were in small plastic tanks... all were adult too...

they got pancake tortoises... alot of em... priced at RM450... stars they haf it too and they don have much... they haf pancakes more than stars... and they don have sulcata! all no more hatchling... adults... but i still like de ally snapper... looked damn fierce... and so steady in de still water... scary yet coOL!

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Hatchling sensitive mah... very prone to diseases.... I have experienced this before. Pet Family get older stock so that they got less chance of dying. Other countries, even RES gotta be sold at minimum of 4 inches... but RES here people only want small small plus they are easier to maintain than land tortoises in terms habitat.
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My red-eared refuse to eat wor? How come? Give 'em pellets also, make the water dirty instead of eating it? How ar?

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Benji is very active. Always wanna run away from my hand while being handled... sweat.gif

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i went there coz' i'm hoping to see hatchling ally snapper! hehe... coz' de last time i was there which i think were way 2 years back i think got lots of 'em... all hatchlings... maybe too many of 'em died and they don wanna sell hatchling d kuar...

ya... they got 4 adult ally snapper... 2 in 1 same aquarium (biggest around), 1 more alone in a tank and another oso alone in de tank... de biggest one looks coOL! so fierce wif a tail like a dragon tail! shocking.gif

they got quite alot too... water based turtles and i donno which species are they... mostly all dark brown in color... hahaaa!

and a big halo benji n scott!

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QUOTE(Mike3300 @ Sep 18 2006, 09:28 PM)
My red-eared refuse to eat wor? How come? Give 'em pellets also, make the water dirty instead of eating it? How ar?

By the way meet Benji:

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Benji is very active. Always wanna run away from my hand while being handled...  sweat.gif

And Scott:

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Scott is always afraid of being handled, but as you can see... it gets attracted by the camera biggrin.gif
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Your RES looks more like a florida slider because of the yellowish colour. Anyway welcome to the club. thumbup.gif

QUOTE(ekiddie @ Sep 18 2006, 10:21 PM)
i went there coz' i'm hoping to see hatchling ally snapper! hehe... coz' de last time i was there which i think were way 2 years back i think got lots of 'em... all hatchlings... maybe too many of 'em died and they don wanna sell hatchling d kuar...

ya... they got 4 adult ally snapper... 2 in 1 same aquarium (biggest around), 1 more alone in a tank and another oso alone in de tank... de biggest one looks coOL! so fierce wif a tail like a dragon tail!  shocking.gif 

they got quite alot too... water based turtles and i donno which species are they... mostly all dark brown in color... hahaaa!
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Owh, those 2 in same tank is ally snapper. The one alone in the tank is the common snapper. Got other meh ? Got 3 oni woh, u said 4 ?

About the water based turtles, iinm they are painted terrapin, peacock turtle, side necked turtle and map turtles.
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ha?? snapper oso got lots of sub species ar?? care to elaborate more on snapper? hehe... donno much abt 'em... i think got 2 more stand alone snapper ler... hahaaa! got alot of things to see mar... hehe... soli for my bad memory... tongue.gif

o yah, i'm sure i saw side necked turtle as their neck are much longer than others do...

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QUOTE(EuJax @ Sep 18 2006, 11:13 AM)
dai86, did you mean RM300 for Pancake? Or RM350? Cheers.
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rm300 for elongated, and rm350 for the pancakes. very cheap oh? hehe,,,

QUOTE(EuJax @ Sep 18 2006, 01:26 PM)
Uzairi, i think dai86 meant the 3 Stripe Musk Turtle not Keeled Box Turtle. Here is a picture to share smile.gif Anyway, if its true that its the Keeled Box turtle, grab it! Its beautiful smile.gif Just my 2c.

UPM, i havent seen that one before. Very beautiful tortoise but i wonder if its a cross breed. Havent come across the scientific name as well. Thanks for sharing. Where did you find that picture?
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no lah, he told me that the turtle shell loook like a king crown~huh~

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HEHE  cool.gif now got other BAD NEW , that is she dont wan separate with me and today i terima balik her....  sweat.gif dono y reli cant see ger cry la,  cool.gif sob sob...... good bye my future leopord, good bye my future sulcata.  cry.gif

Eujax : i find it in TT Tutle.com forum there la........ under terific tortoise >> the most rare and beautifull tortoise post  icon_rolleyes.gif ...... at there u can find alot of rare and so cool tortoise.  whistling.gif
BTW can we just mix accross the tortoise breed meh?? wonder what happen when we can mix it (like we mix the dog)  rclxub.gif leopord + sulcata = Porata???  sweat.gif sulcata + star = sultan ???  sweat.gif
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Dai,

Nice Pancake smile.gif why you say its not like what you think? Different from what you expect ke? Anyway what is 3 Keeled Musk Turtle? Same family to Razorback?

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QUOTE(ekiddie @ Sep 18 2006, 10:53 PM)
ha?? snapper oso got lots of sub species ar?? care to elaborate more on snapper? hehe... donno much abt 'em... i think got 2 more stand alone snapper ler... hahaaa! got alot of things to see mar... hehe... soli for my bad memory... tongue.gif

o yah, i'm sure i saw side necked turtle as their neck are much longer than others do...

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QUOTE(dai86 @ Sep 18 2006, 10:57 PM)
rm300 for elongated, and rm350 for the pancakes. very cheap oh? hehe,,,
no lah, he told me that the turtle shell loook like a king crown~huh~
easy lah, u tell her, i baik with u, u can't kacau me rare tortoise, if not we break again! hahahaa...
i not sure the musk and razorback same family or not lah, since i haven see the turtle yet. last time i saw the pic of pancakes...it is pin in color! so so so nice ah! huh!! but the real one ah...... chocolate orange color~ huh~~
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Pancake cheap, elongated expensive.

King crown ? I supposed it looked like a leaf rite ?

The Razorback is in the Musk turtle family, dont get it wrong.
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QUOTE(uzairi @ Sep 18 2006, 05:47 PM)
We can crossbreed them as long as they are in the same family. Lets say Geochelone family, we have Geochelon Elegans(Indian Star), Geochelone Playnota(Burmese Star), Geochelone Pardalis(Leopard Tortoise), Geochelone Radiata(Radiated Tortoise), Geochelone Carbonaria(Redfoot Tortoise), Geochelone Denticulata(Yellowfoot Tortoise) can be crossbreed among them.  thumbup.gif

Its just that people prefer to have it purebreed. Like persian cat, if its a mixed one nobody interested.  rolleyes.gif
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but anyone wanna try? hehe.. if the baby no body want, u all can always give it to me! hehe...

QUOTE(uzairi @ Sep 19 2006, 12:21 AM)
There a lot more snapper sub species such as Florida snapper and Mexican Snapper aside from Ally and common.
Pancake cheap, elongated expensive.

King crown ? I supposed it looked like a leaf rite ?

The Razorback is in the Musk turtle family, dont get it wrong.
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pancakes rm350, elongated rm300...bout the same size lah, but the elongated don't look like the normal one wor~ hehehehe... not sure. see when i get it then take pic! hehe...

so who wanna buy the pancakes? hehe..

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any musk turtles u all bumped into?

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Okay i got it, its Razorback Musk and Common Musk aka Stinkpot smile.gif Found a wesite that explain everything. So they are Musk turtle family. Cool....and snapping turtle basically have 2 types, one alligator snapping turtle and common snapping turltle as uzairi mentioned. DOnt know bout florida snapper though. cool.gif

ekiddie, you like Musk turtle huh? Seems like you have been looking for them. You have one alrady right? smile.gif

dai, anymore pictures of the tortoises in your shop? I like to see them all....take more photo laa! heheh... laugh.gif




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now we only have star, pancakes and elongated lah. but later will in sulcata and leopard and radiated. hehe...
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kamekame... yes, i haf razorbacks... and i would want other type of musk like a stinkpot or 3 stripes mud? hehe...

now waiting for dai86 as he said he have musk turtles coming to his shop soon... hehe... can't wait for de pics of it...

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guys... anyone of u can enlighten me wif a pic of calcium powder for turtles and tortoises... izzit in a rock kind of shape of white in color? can those be used for water based turtles ar?? i saw mostly they use those calcium powder for tortoise but not turtles...

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turtles also need calcium powder? i dont think its a must right? unless wut species you are reffering too?

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QUOTE(kamekame8888 @ Sep 19 2006, 12:27 AM)
Okay i got it, its Razorback Musk and Common Musk aka Stinkpot smile.gif Found a wesite that explain everything. So they are Musk turtle family. Cool....and snapping turtle basically have 2 types, one alligator snapping turtle and common snapping turltle as uzairi mentioned. DOnt know bout florida snapper though.  cool.gif
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And there's Mexican Snapper also. I also found out that there's softshell snapper. Weird but its true. icon_idea.gif

QUOTE(ekiddie @ Sep 19 2006, 12:52 AM)
guys... anyone of u can enlighten me wif a pic of calcium powder for turtles and tortoises... izzit in a rock kind of shape of white in color? can those be used for water based turtles ar?? i saw mostly they use those calcium powder for tortoise but not turtles...

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Turtles dont need calcium supplement. They can get it from pellets and its sufficient for their daily intake. Only tortoise need calcium supplement because the amount they get from their food is not sufficient, and it is in powder form.
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If turtles are fed a diet of fish, shrimp and turtle pellets, already got calcium in their diet.

Only land tortoises need the extra calcium coz land tortoises do not eat fish or shrimp. The fish and shrimp already has natural calcium... land tortoises eat greens... so greens don't carry enough calcium. We also cannot feed tortoise pellets to them everyday coz tortoise pellets is actually high in wheat and corn, not what tortoises eat in the wild and high in protein. A land tortoise basically needs more fiber in their diet. The extra calcium from supplements boost their bone and shell health.
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Yeah, add natural sunlight to that. In wild, they dont need calcium supplements because they get UVB from the sun which synthesis calcium for their shell growth. If u can provide them sun light everyday u dont need to give them those supplements. If u cant, just give them those D3 calcium supplement and at least once a week of natural sunlight basking session.
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QUOTE(dai86 @ Sep 19 2006, 12:30 AM)
now we only have star, pancakes and elongated lah. but later will in sulcata and leopard and radiated. hehe...
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QUOTE(ekiddie @ Sep 19 2006, 12:52 AM)
guys... anyone of u can enlighten me wif a pic of calcium powder for turtles and tortoises... izzit in a rock kind of shape of white in color? can those be used for water based turtles ar?? i saw mostly they use those calcium powder for tortoise but not turtles...

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I have these 2 types of calcium powder

http://mytortoise.multiply.com/photos/photo/5/43
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QUOTE(uzairi @ Sep 18 2006, 10:42 PM)
Your RES looks more like a florida slider because of the yellowish colour. Anyway welcome to the club.  thumbup.gif
Owh, those 2 in same tank is ally snapper. The one alone in the tank is the common snapper. Got other meh ? Got 3 oni woh, u said 4 ?

About the water based turtles, iinm they are painted terrapin, peacock turtle, side necked turtle and map turtles.
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i was browsing another forum and found this...
http://invisionfree.com/forums/Happy_Turtl...showtopic=11346

this turtle gheng... one year only... the turtle grow so much bigger

note: same cup

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That is huge leh. My turtle hasn't even showed any signs of growth oso. >.< (He's fine and no progress/issues so no updates.)
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QUOTE(UPM_Parasite @ Sep 19 2006, 11:16 AM)

Walao eh..... that turtle eat what ah??? illigal drug???  sweat.gif
Waa so fast got new target liao???  cool.gif so how about ur wife new "rolex"???

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my wife ah, still looking around for the watch. haven choose yet

but last weekend i got wat by her, she wat me to buy her 2 jigsaw puzzle with frame which cost nearly my sulcata. she said this is a warning. if i want more tortoise, i need to buy her gift valued roughly the same price as the tortoise

she must have think i print money sad.gif sigh
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QUOTE(sayasebuk @ Sep 19 2006, 08:55 AM)
are florida sliders considered RES? they look too yellowish to be RES
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Nope, what i mean was his RES looks like a Florida Slider. They are both different sub species.

QUOTE(titansulcata @ Sep 19 2006, 10:22 AM)
i was browsing another forum and found this...
http://invisionfree.com/forums/Happy_Turtl...showtopic=11346

this turtle gheng... one year only... the turtle grow so much bigger

note: same cup
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This is because the RES is given too much pellets. If u feed them with vege it wont grow that fast. Mind u if they grow that fast, they will die faster than a RES that grows normally.
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QUOTE(titansulcata @ Sep 19 2006, 12:05 PM)
my wife ah, still looking around for the watch. haven choose yet

but last weekend i got wat by her, she wat me to buy her 2 jigsaw puzzle with frame which cost nearly my sulcata. she said this is a warning. if i want more tortoise, i need to buy her gift valued roughly the same price as the tortoise

she must have think i print money sad.gif sigh
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Women, they are like that. Jealousy, i always say to my gf if she treated me well i wont buy any new one. But she makes me angry and i buy each everytime she makes me mad. She cant say anything because we make a deal.
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QUOTE(meiteoh @ Sep 19 2006, 11:14 AM)
That is huge leh. My turtle hasn't even showed any signs of growth oso. >.< (He's fine and no progress/issues so no updates.)
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QUOTE(titansulcata @ Sep 19 2006, 12:05 PM)
my wife ah, still looking around for the watch. haven choose yet

but last weekend i got wat by her, she wat me to buy her 2 jigsaw puzzle with frame which cost nearly my sulcata. she said this is a warning. if i want more tortoise, i need to buy her gift valued roughly the same price as the tortoise

she must have think i print money sad.gif sigh
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waa, very dangerous, she memorizes the price. tongue.gif that's why nowadays when my wife ask the price that i spent, i always try to avoid or answer dishonestly sweat.gif

QUOTE(uzairi @ Sep 19 2006, 12:05 PM)
Nope, what i mean was his RES looks like a Florida Slider. They are both different sub species.
This is because the RES is given too much pellets. If u feed them with vege it wont grow that fast. Mind u if they grow that fast, they will die faster than a RES that grows normally.
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Currently, i've been only feeding my RES with turtle pellets and freeze dried bloodworms. Once in a while i drop in some snails that i find from my planted aquarium. i tried giving them vegies but they just leave them alone rclxub.gif . If what you say is true, then i would have to figure out something fast sad.gif

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Tortue won't swallow them at all. Just bite and spit out. I read someone that RES go through two growth spruts a year - if they have heaps of food, they'll grow faster.
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Was browsing some turtle websites, and noticed some recommending you to play with your turtles.Question is HOW DOES ONE PLAY WITH TURTLES?? shocking.gif
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Was browsing some turtle websites, and noticed some recommending you to play with your turtles.Question is HOW DOES ONE PLAY WITH TURTLES??  shocking.gif
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not sure whether this is consider playing...

for me, when i've got the time i'll let them walk at my front house compound.

Other than that, sometimes i hand feed them. Feels nice when they eat from my hands
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QUOTE(sayasebuk @ Sep 19 2006, 12:26 PM)
If what you say is true, then i would have to figure out something fast  sad.gif
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Tortue won't swallow them at all. Just bite and spit out. I read someone that RES go through two growth spruts a year - if they have heaps of food, they'll grow faster.
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U need to starve them 1-2 days and put vege inside. They will learn to eat it somehow, u need patient for this kind of stuff.

QUOTE(titansulcata @ Sep 19 2006, 02:27 PM)
not sure whether this is consider playing...

for me, when i've got the time i'll let them walk at my front house compound.

Other than that, sometimes i hand feed them. Feels nice when they eat from my hands
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Yeah, sometimes i hand feed them too. Let them walk at my compound and then i chase them. laugh.gif thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(UPM_Parasite @ Sep 19 2006, 11:16 AM)
Yalaa... that call "perjanjian hitam putih" ma.....  whistling.gif  plus still got many ger wan me outside there, so what i scare about that..... haha  icon_rolleyes.gif this what i call supply more then demand ma.  cool.gif
hehe can give me also.  cheers.gif  cheers.gif
Wan buy more??? bo lui la bro  cry.gif this week already finish RM700 to pay room rent, 3 bulan steamix and 3 bulan tell bill...... tak masuk bill air and api yet  doh.gif  doh.gif . reli can botak liao now.  sweat.gif
Walao eh..... that turtle eat what ah??? illigal drug???  sweat.gif
Waa so fast got new target liao???  cool.gif so how about ur wife new "rolex"???

icon_question.gif if i wan move live in singapore then how about my 2 little fella??? can i bring into singapore without any problem??  icon_question.gif  cos i hear we need quarantine for 2 week if wan bring any pets to singapore.  doh.gif Any1 know about that???
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You cannot bring Star Tortoise into Singapore. Once caught, you can go to jail friend.... all exotics are BANNED to be own there. Only RES can be kept as pets but Stars are no no at all....

It is illegal to keep Star tortoise in Singapore.... so the owners of Stars there keep very quiet... but if we were to go in with 1 tortoise, die loh hahahh...
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You cannot bring Star Tortoise into Singapore. Once caught, you can go to jail friend.... all exotics are BANNED to be own there. Only RES can be kept as pets but Stars are no no at all....

It is illegal to keep Star tortoise in Singapore.... so the owners of Stars there keep very quiet... but if we were to go in with 1 tortoise, die loh hahahh...
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All types of Tortoises and turtles are banned... except RES... well, this is what I get from my friends living in Singapore. Those tortoises and reptiles that some people have are all those illegal ones.... even frog also no one dare say they rare it in the open.

Also, it is illegal to sell animals online also.... that is Singapore rule liao.
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Singaporeans try and make do with Chincillas and hamsters heheheh, cheap also.... but they got better freedom with dogs.. unlike here, not so open minded bout dogs lah.

The rule was impose so that people will not be careless and also sellers won't go and catch wild animals.

you see, most of our exotic pets here, especially reptiles are caught from the wild... if keep catching the wild animals, sure pupus later loh. Most of the turtles and tortoises are wild caught... pity lah but that is Malaysia's pet trade. Singapore saw this happened in their country and they wanna preserve the wild animals so they make a law that no wild animal or exotic pet should be caught or kept as a pet. It keeps suppliers from asking the orang asli to catch wild animals also...

Also, many people tend to abandon their exotic pets. If I'm not mistaken, there is a turtle and tortoise santuary there.... it houses the confisticated tortoises and turtles I think... or is it a library? LOL, my brain not working so my memory fuzzy... but many exotics get abandon at the zoo and animal shelter....

In Malaysia also the same mah, Zoo Negara always get Iguanas, snakes, parrots, rabbits, mice and gerbils and loads of RES dumped at their doorstep. But many do not know that most of the rabbits and mice and gerbils or whatever rodents are fed to the snakes.... as food.... no choice, Zoo Negara no space to upkeep more animals and of course rodents are food to snakes.

One day, this law will come into Malaysia... I sense it loh.... We just dunno when.
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QUOTE(UPM_Parasite @ Sep 19 2006, 06:24 PM)
Walao eh............................. so sad la if like that  vmad.gif  vmad.gif
Now my gf so angry liao, cos i promise her to follow her to singapore next year, but now cant bring my fella so i think dont wan follow her to singapore la...  cry.gif  it sound like tortoise more important then our future.  sweat.gif  sweat.gif  sweat.gif
icon_question.gif BTW how about sulcata, leoprd, or radiata tortoise?? this all also banded in singapore???  icon_question.gif
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QUOTE(crazymouse_yyh @ Sep 19 2006, 07:23 PM)
Also, many people tend to abandon their exotic pets. If I'm not mistaken, there is a turtle and tortoise santuary there.... it houses the confisticated tortoises and turtles I think... or is it a library? LOL, my brain not working so my memory fuzzy... but many exotics get abandon at the zoo and animal shelter....
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QUOTE(uzairi @ Sep 19 2006, 09:40 PM)
Dude, maybe u need to left ur tortoise for a while. Later came back to malaysia can pet tortoise again.  icon_rolleyes.gif
I plan when i died, i wanna give all my collection to Zoo Negara. But then my gf said its better if i open a independent Turtle Farm so i wanna have that Turtle Farm in about 20 Years from now. Anybody can help those turtles later.
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Start loh turtle farm... but can you imagine how many people will dump their RES and unwanted tortoises? shocking.gif
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Well, what's on my mind is if they dump those tortoise or turtles they need to pay some fees. What do u think ? Somehow like SPCA.
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UPM_Parasite, wah, u use so many money ah~?? hehe.... really going to be botak~ hehe...

hehe.. hey guys, here the pic of turtle and tortoise in stall~ the new comer turtle is either a keeled box turtle or a Three-keeled Musk Turtle (or giant musk turtle) , hehe.. we have one razorback as well.

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dai... the top middle one is wat turtle? 3 stripe mud turtle?? wat's de price for those? and u said u got one razor? i saw u snap alot or izzit the only one there and u snap razor alot? hehe...

something i owe u still pending... hahaaa!!

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the upper 2 picture is that dunno keeled box turtle or a Three-keeled Musk Turtle (or giant musk turtle), the second row pic is the razorback picture lah. hehe..

what u owe me wor? haha...
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QUOTE(dai86 @ Sep 19 2006, 11:08 PM)
UPM_Parasite, wah, u use so many money ah~?? hehe.... really going to be botak~ hehe...

hehe.. hey guys, here the pic of turtle and tortoise in stall~ the new comer turtle is either a keeled box turtle or a Three-keeled Musk Turtle (or giant musk turtle)  , hehe.. we have one razorback as well.
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The first pic should be a common musk a.k.a stinkpot turtle.

http://www.chelonia.org/sternotherusgallery.htm
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hahaa!! coz my pc showing on high resolution so i see upper part got 3 pics in a row... hahaaa!!

O... it's stinkpot aka common musk ha? dai86, wat's de price of tat? u got 1 only?

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QUOTE(uzairi @ Sep 20 2006, 01:34 AM)
The first pic should be a common musk a.k.a stinkpot turtle.

http://www.chelonia.org/sternotherusgallery.htm
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QUOTE(uzairi @ Sep 19 2006, 12:09 PM)
Women, they are like that. Jealousy, i always say to my gf if she treated me well i wont buy any new one. But she makes me angry and i buy each everytime she makes me mad. She cant say anything because we make a deal.
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herm, if i understood you correctly. total number of ttt = total number of fights with gf.
judging by the amount of ttt you have, wow that's a lot of fights tongue.gif
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some of you may remember that i posted several concerns about the condition of the shells of my two baby RES. Well after doing some more research, and closer inspection of the shell, i have finally concluded they are both suffering from soft shell (metabolic bone disease).
I read that this is due to lack calcium/calcium phospateratio or/and lack of vitamin D3.
i feed them daily in the morning (80% of the time with JBL calcil sticks) and once a week i give them the azoo calcium phospate supplement. I think the calcium intake is sufficient. the culprit most probably is lack of vit D3. i dont have any vit D3 supplement, have yet to buy the uvb flourescent, and scared of sunning them outside under the sun.
anyone experienced this before?
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u give them eat small small ikan bilis or those small small udang kering. thats my RES diet last time and they growing fine. sometimes have to put them for sunbath too~ (put them in a container, fill with cukup cukup water , not too many till they can came out and not too little till the water will warm cause sunshine,, some dry place with shade, that will do it) (wat i did last time)~

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Sayasebudak: Why don't you just get a small fish tank (those plastic ones), put some rocks to make the water level slightly different on one end and sun them for like half an hour to an hour with half of the tank in the sun and the other half in the shade during the weekends?

I try and sun Tortue at least once a week, if not I feed him lots of calcium rich stuff. But I still make sure he sees the sun once to twice a week for 45 mins.

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QUOTE(dai86 @ Sep 20 2006, 09:13 AM)
u give them eat small small ikan bilis or those small small udang kering. thats my RES diet last time and they growing fine. sometimes have to put them for sunbath too~ (put them in a container, fill with cukup cukup water , not too many till they can came out and not too little till the water will warm cause sunshine,, some dry place with shade, that will do it) (wat i did last time)~
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are ikan bilis and udang kering for calcium or D3? blink.gif
do you guys know what types of food contain D3?

QUOTE(meiteoh @ Sep 20 2006, 10:06 AM)
Sayasebudak: Why don't you just get a small fish tank (those plastic ones), put some rocks to make the water level slightly different on one end and sun them for like half an hour to an hour with half of the tank in the sun and the other half in the shade during the weekends?

I try and sun Tortue at least once a week, if not I feed him lots of calcium rich stuff. But I still make sure he sees the sun once to twice a week for 45 mins.
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Will definitely sunbath them every weekend from now on. Wouldn't the plastic aquarium become too hot? sweat.gif
when sunbathing, do you guys put the turtles directly under sunlight (in the open), or indirectly (under porch,tree,etc)

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No leh. Plastic aquarium is okay mah. I only put half of the aquarium in direct sunlight and the other hand under the shade. Of lately, because of the haze and change in season (earth axis), Tortue's sunbathing sessions are more like cloudy sunbathing sessions. >.<
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Does anyone have any pictures of your uvb lamp setup? blink.gif
Im planning to buy reptiglo 5.0 smallest bulb (pet shop always seem to have only the longest one). For the casing/fixture, im still reeearching on DIY. The commercial ones seem to be ridicolously expensive and always come with a bulb (which of course i do not need).
Can anyone share their setup? icon_question.gif
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QUOTE(dai86 @ Sep 19 2006, 11:08 PM)
UPM_Parasite, wah, u use so many money ah~?? hehe.... really going to be botak~ hehe...

hehe.. hey guys, here the pic of turtle and tortoise in stall~ the new comer turtle is either a keeled box turtle or a Three-keeled Musk Turtle (or giant musk turtle)  , hehe.. we have one razorback as well.
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QUOTE(sayasebuk @ Sep 20 2006, 08:58 AM)
herm, if i understood you correctly. total number of ttt = total number of fights with gf.
judging by the amount of ttt you have, wow that's a lot of fights  tongue.gif
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Well, there's a time when we fight i bought around 4 of them at one time. Marah sgt punya pasal. whistling.gif

QUOTE(sayasebuk @ Sep 20 2006, 09:09 AM)
some of you may remember that i posted several concerns about the condition of the shells of my two baby RES. Well after doing some more research, and closer inspection of the shell, i have finally concluded they are both suffering from soft shell (metabolic bone disease).
I read that this is due to lack calcium/calcium phospateratio or/and lack of vitamin D3.
i feed them daily in the morning (80% of the time with JBL calcil sticks) and once a week i give them the azoo calcium phospate supplement. I think the calcium intake is sufficient. the culprit most probably is lack of vit D3. i dont have any vit D3 supplement,  have yet to buy the uvb flourescent, and scared of sunning them outside under the sun.
anyone experienced this before?
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What i can suggest u is, give them other type of pellets. Nutrafin Basix is a good start. Feed them daily twice a day. And if u can sunbath them its better. Hopefully they can recover.


One of my Asian Leaf Turtle's is bleeding, maybe because of the infection. I cant afford to bring them to vet. Can we find those Nolvasan in pharmacy ? FYI Nolvasan is kind of antiseptic but used for animals. sad.gif
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QUOTE(uzairi @ Sep 20 2006, 01:36 PM)
Well, there's a time when we fight i bought around 4 of them at one time. Marah sgt punya pasal.  whistling.gif
What i can suggest u is, give them other type of pellets. Nutrafin Basix is a good start. Feed them daily twice a day. And if u can sunbath them its better. Hopefully they can recover.
One of my Asian Leaf Turtle's is bleeding, maybe because of the infection. I cant afford to bring them to vet. Can we find those Nolvasan in pharmacy ? FYI Nolvasan is kind of antiseptic but used for animals.  sad.gif
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i'm now at eighty-eight marine akuarium (jln pandan indah 4/10 cheras)

they have 3 sulcata hatchling selling at $580

quite a lot of star tortoise. Hatchling and juvenile ($98 to $160)

they have egyptian, russian, greek, hungeback tortoises too (all these around $300 to $400)

also one very big red/yellow foot tortoise. Not sure red or yellow. Guessing. But very big
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QUOTE(sayasebuk @ Sep 20 2006, 02:18 PM)
Just curious, how much does it normally cost for a visit to the vet? blink.gif
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U can expect around rm50 minimum up to rmxxx. Now im searching for that antiseptic for my turtles.

QUOTE(titansulcata @ Sep 20 2006, 02:58 PM)
i'm now at eighty-eight marine akuarium (jln pandan indah 4/10 cheras)

they have 3 sulcata hatchling selling at $580

quite a lot of star tortoise. Hatchling and juvenile ($98 to $160)

they have egyptian, russian, greek, hungeback tortoises too (all these around $300 to $400)

also one very big red/yellow foot tortoise. Not sure red or yellow. Guessing. But very big
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Woah, u post this message there ka ? GPRS ? Nice collection they have there, wanna go have a look there when i have the time.
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Woah, u post this message there ka ? GPRS ? Nice collection they have there, wanna go have a look there when i have the time.
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in total they have around 16 tortoises... just next to the tortoise aquirium, they are selling shih szu dog (3 ekor)


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QUOTE(titansulcata @ Sep 20 2006, 05:06 PM)
ya, posted there using Opera from N70 on Digi EDGE  smile.gif

in total they have around 16 tortoises... just next to the tortoise aquirium, they are selling shih szu dog (3 ekor)
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Nice there, utilising technology. thumbup.gif Wah, dog beside it kah ? Later kena infected by dog's desease.

QUOTE(UPM_Parasite @ Sep 20 2006, 07:15 PM)
Waa that good.....  wub.gif  u also can have 1 kind of service like TTT hotel, when the owner go travel or makan angin u can take care the TTT and say la 1 day the fee is RM10. this will give u some money ma......  icon_rolleyes.gif
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Yeah, later might do it but need place first. Later i pulak cannot go vacation. laugh.gif My first customer should be YOU coz later going to Singapore.
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Aiyo y dont take pic using ur hp leh??? show to us the tortoise photo ma  sweat.gif
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they don't allow mar... later kena halau keluar malu leh

QUOTE(uzairi @ Sep 20 2006, 07:25 PM)
Nice there, utilising technology.  thumbup.gif Wah, dog beside it kah ? Later kena infected by dog's desease.
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QUOTE(titansulcata @ Sep 20 2006, 02:58 PM)
i'm now at eighty-eight marine akuarium (jln pandan indah 4/10 cheras)

they have 3 sulcata hatchling selling at $580

quite a lot of star tortoise. Hatchling and juvenile ($98 to $160)

they have egyptian, russian, greek, hungeback tortoises too (all these around $300 to $400)

also one very big red/yellow foot tortoise. Not sure red or yellow. Guessing. But very big
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Woww so many types? Where is that Pandah Indah? Cheras ya...must make a trip there for tortoise visit smile.gif How to go ehh? Not familiar with Cheras laa...any landmark? Thank you Titansulcata.



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QUOTE(titansulcata @ Sep 20 2006, 02:58 PM)
i'm now at eighty-eight marine akuarium (jln pandan indah 4/10 cheras)

they have 3 sulcata hatchling selling at $580

quite a lot of star tortoise. Hatchling and juvenile ($98 to $160)

they have egyptian, russian, greek, hungeback tortoises too (all these around $300 to $400)

also one very big red/yellow foot tortoise. Not sure red or yellow. Guessing. But very big
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Thats quite a collection...hope i have the time to look for that place. Thanks for sharing Titan. Cheers.



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QUOTE(kamekame8888 @ Sep 20 2006, 10:03 PM)
Woww so many types? Where is that Pandah Indah? Cheras ya...must make a trip there for tortoise visit smile.gif How to go ehh? Not familiar with Cheras laa...any landmark? Thank you Titansulcata.
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QUOTE(EuJax @ Sep 20 2006, 10:08 PM)
Thats quite a collection...hope i have the time to look for that place. Thanks for sharing Titan. Cheers.
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QUOTE(UPM_Parasite @ Sep 20 2006, 08:41 PM)
icon_question.gif BTW  UV sterilizer = UV lamp????  icon_question.gif I saw this at MV Pet wonderland there, r sweat.gif m130++.  sweat.gif reli can botak this month  rclxub.gif
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More or less like a UV lamp with a water pump.

QUOTE(UPM_Parasite @ Sep 20 2006, 10:22 PM)
Haha but if u wan see more colection just need go 1 place......... that is
Uzairi 's house.   wub.gif  icon_rolleyes.gif
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Wahseh, my collection not that big also lah. blush.gif laugh.gif
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QUOTE(uzairi @ Sep 20 2006, 10:29 PM)
Wahseh, my collection not that big also lah.  blush.gif  laugh.gif
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Among all, the most favourite is my Star Tortoise named Ringo and Jem. They are the 2nd batch of ttt that i get. And they are very close to me compared to the others since they need a lot more attention.

First ttt that i got was my small ally snapper, from the day i bought him/her, hunter grow bigger day by day. Last time when i got hunter, there's few more rare turtles but i dont give a damn since i was only interested with the ally. Fell regretted but now im adding new ttt day by day hoping i can get a number of collection and later open a turtle farm. That was my dream all this while. After a few months later i bought my star tortoise followed by continous buying of ttt. laugh.gif

Other than that, i got a lot of new friends while enjoying this hobby. Thanks to all and i hope we all can fullfil our past time with this hobby not forgetting not to waste ur money too much. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(uzairi @ Sep 20 2006, 11:12 PM)
Among all, the most favourite is my Star Tortoise named Ringo and Jem. They are the 2nd batch of ttt that i get. And they are very close to me compared to the others since they need a lot more attention.

First ttt that i got was  my small ally snapper, from the day i bought him/her, hunter grow bigger day by day. Last time when i got hunter, there's few more rare turtles but i dont give a damn since i was only interested with the ally. Fell regretted but now im adding new ttt day by day hoping i can get a number of collection and later open a turtle farm. That was my dream all this while. After a few months later i bought my star tortoise followed by continous buying of ttt. laugh.gif

Other than that, i got a lot of new friends while enjoying this hobby. Thanks to all and i hope we all can fullfil our past time with this hobby not forgetting not to waste ur money too much. laugh.gif
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thanks for sharing smile.gif

speaking of money, to maintain them also not cheap...
for me, nowadays with 7 tortoises eating 2 times a day... my sawi really finishes quick. One week now have to spend around RM4 on sawi. When they are adult, I think have to spend more sweat.gif

Sooo, I can't imagine how much money u need to spend just to maintain em all

Btw, just uploaded this video (taken from phone)...
Dinner Time for all 7 of em
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About their foods, its like rm15 weekly for vege such as Sawi, Long Beans, Eggplant, Waterchress,Pumpkin and french beans. I feed them once a day to avoid overgrow. Recommended for juvenile to adult turtles/tortoise is 3 times per week actually. Monthly around Rm100 i supposed including the bedding and pellets.
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QUOTE(UPM_Parasite @ Sep 20 2006, 11:43 PM)
Nice video.......  cheers.gif all is masive eating machine......  icon_rolleyes.gif  But ur bubu star still in ur hand meh??? u not say wan give to ur dad???  cool.gif
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QUOTE(uzairi @ Sep 20 2006, 11:49 PM)
About their foods, its like rm15 weekly for vege such as Sawi, Long Beans, Eggplant, Waterchress,Pumpkin and french beans. I feed them once a day to avoid overgrow. Recommended for juvenile to adult turtles/tortoise is 3 times per week actually. Monthly around Rm100 i supposed including the bedding and pellets.
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i tried to feed them once a day, but everytime they seems so hungry... So i give in and feed them. But every feeding is just nice. Not too many

with so many tortoises & turtles, have u managed to breed?
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QUOTE(titansulcata @ Sep 21 2006, 12:02 AM)
with so many tortoises & turtles, have u managed to breed?
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They lay lots of egg but all not successfully hatched. Until now, i managed to see 12 eggs and until now only 3 egg left. laugh.gif

My star tortoise gatal edi, dunno when can get baby stars. blush.gif

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Uzairi :
Tula...... wan adopt so many turtle sangat.  smile.gif RM100 i can use buy 1 month top up for my HP.  icon_rolleyes.gif or can eat KFC for 10 times with soft drink  drool.gif
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U know what ? I top up rm10 for 2 months. KFC also seldom eat, more on McD. thumbup.gif
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do we still need to feed them with calcium if i rear my tortoise in my airwell and they get direct sunlight for several hours a day? do they need any vitamins also? or i can just rear them like normal
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Well, giving a little more wont harm them so i suggest u still give them once a week. Vitamins also can be done like that.
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my tortise really like sun bathing. in the water tank i put two bricks n everyday it saty on it unless someone scare it, then it will hide into water.
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Some of them prefer to be not inside the water, so its recomended to put a place for them to be totally out from the water.
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i one day feed once time only coz my tortise always eat n eat. i think too fat already even the leg n head cannot go into shell in the same time. wat i mean is when we touch it's leg, the head sure come out. when we touch the head, the leg come out.

it is too fat?? i need to let my tortise diet??
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QUOTE(UPM_Parasite @ Sep 21 2006, 12:03 AM)

Me?? in 1 month, i think only RM10 for buying hay, food i now feeding them with hibiscus (free). calcium supplement i last month buy 1 bottle (rm17) and until now i think only using 10% only.  icon_rolleyes.gif
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for bedding i bought extra the first time cause scared in future when want no stock. 5 packets of them. My wife say i gila. But cheaper to buy more ma. For suppliment, i think can last very long. For vege, i got sponsor smile.gif my mother in law settle

my titan doesn't like hibiscus. But my bubu love them a lot. I feed him the flower every weekend. Curi from park one tongue.gif

QUOTE(uzairi @ Sep 21 2006, 12:22 AM)
They lay lots of egg but all not successfully hatched. Until now, i managed to see 12 eggs and until now only 3 egg left.  laugh.gif

My star tortoise gatal edi, dunno when can get baby stars.  blush.gif
U know what ? I top up rm10 for 2 months. KFC also seldom eat, more on McD.  thumbup.gif
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how come didn't hatch. Tempreture prob ah??

If u can successfully hatch them, it would be a good mileage for your farm plan

$10 for 2 months? No need to call gf ah

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icon_question.gif So  i wonder what times the best for feeding our fella??  icon_question.gif i always feed them 2 times a day, 8am(before i go to class) and 10pm(after i back from class). it ok??    cool.gif
  this pic i get from http://nlbif.eti.uva.nl/bis/ it look so ugly, reli like frog more then like turtle.  sweat.gif
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I feed them early morning before go to work. On the basking light, then put the vege

evening when come back, remove their shit. Then add vege also. Most of the time they can finish

i like the feeling when i'm preparing the food, all of them will come towards me. They know it is feeding time
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QUOTE(UPM_Parasite @ Sep 20 2006, 08:41 PM)
icon_question.gif BTW  UV sterilizer = UV lamp????  icon_question.gif I saw this at MV Pet wonderland there, r sweat.gif m130++.  sweat.gif reli can botak this month  rclxub.gif
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no la not the same. UV sterilizer are used for those with planted aquarium. used for eliminating algae in the water. cannot be used to replace uv lamp because the uv sterilizer supposed to be kept in cupboard. if placed out in the open can really damage your eyesight. dangerous cool.gif
if you want to buy a uv lamp and thinking on the budget side, im thinking of buying some parts and DIY my own this weekend. the bulb itself of course will buy reptiglo 5.0. RM40 - RM50 i think. once finished i will post some updates

QUOTE(titansulcata @ Sep 20 2006, 11:24 PM)
thanks for sharing smile.gif

speaking of money, to maintain them also not cheap...
for me, nowadays with 7 tortoises eating 2 times a day... my sawi really finishes quick. One week now have to spend around RM4 on sawi. When they are adult, I think have to spend more  sweat.gif

Sooo, I can't imagine how much money u need to spend just to maintain em all

Btw, just uploaded this video (taken from phone)...
Dinner Time for all 7 of em
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don't forget the money spent on initial setup, especially if housing indoors. uv lamp, basking lamp, aquarium , etc

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I've just transferred my malayan box to his/her (dont know the sex) new home. a custom made 3 feet aquarium. I think its been one month now since i found it inside the longkang beside my house.

this is the first time i've seen it swimming, and immediately i noticed something peculiar.
whenever it swims, or stays immobile inside the water, its body seems to be slanted(senget) a bit to the right (macam berat sebelah). should this be of concern?
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Mine, I feed once every two days coz I read somewhere that they grow faster if they eat more. I sort of double the amount I feed him so I guess it makes up for him not eating every day.
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QUOTE(titansulcata @ Sep 19 2006, 10:22 AM)
i was browsing another forum and found this...
http://invisionfree.com/forums/Happy_Turtl...showtopic=11346

this turtle gheng... one year only... the turtle grow so much bigger

note: same cup
QUOTE(uzairi @ Sep 19 2006, 12:05 PM)
This is because the RES is given too much pellets. If u feed them with vege it wont grow that fast. Mind u if they grow that fast, they will die faster than a RES that grows normally.
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like uzairi said, pellets contain imbalance diet and its not good for TTT, feed them once in a while, too much protein causes overgrowth..

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here is another video of the gang taking sun bath
Sun Bathing
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QUOTE(UPM_Parasite @ Sep 21 2006, 07:27 AM)
icon_question.gif So  i wonder what times the best for feeding our fella??  icon_question.gif i always feed them 2 times a day, 8am(before i go to class) and 10pm(after i back from class). it ok??    cool.gif
  this pic i get from http://nlbif.eti.uva.nl/bis/ it look so ugly, reli like frog more then like turtle.  sweat.gif
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Best time is on evening. They are most active at that time. That turtle is a common snapping or a big headed turtle, they looks normal to me tho.

QUOTE(long3016 @ Sep 21 2006, 07:59 AM)
i one day feed once time only coz my tortise always eat n eat. i think too fat already even the leg n head cannot go into shell in the same time. wat i mean is when we touch it's leg, the head sure come out. when we touch the head, the leg come out.

it is too fat?? i need to let my tortise diet??
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They will always eat non stop actually, so overgrowth is a common problem. They grow faster, die faster also because they gonna get renal failure.

QUOTE(titansulcata @ Sep 21 2006, 08:33 AM)
how come didn't hatch. Tempreture prob ah??

If u can successfully hatch them, it would be a good mileage for your farm plan

$10 for 2 months? No need to call gf ah
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Most probably temperature problem and unfertilized.

My gf no need to call mah, she's in the same Uni with me, same class same everything. Call her also nothing to talk coz we're doing most of the same thing together. laugh.gif

QUOTE(sayasebuk @ Sep 21 2006, 09:11 AM)
this is the first time i've seen it swimming, and immediately i noticed something peculiar.
whenever it swims, or stays immobile inside the water, its body seems to be slanted(senget) a bit to the right (macam berat sebelah). should this be of concern?
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I supposed it lacks food, and necessary vitamins and mineral. Try to give him pellets every odd day with vege on even day. Then sun him everytime u can to recover it back.
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QUOTE(UPM_Parasite @ Sep 21 2006, 05:35 PM)
So u cant "main kayu tiga" la....... also cant "kao" other leng lui lor, all u doing ur gf will know.  rclxub.gif

Talk about food, my ST reli cerewet  doh.gif ..... they only eat hibiscus, cucumber, long bean and sawi only. just now give them try some jambu batu (today forget to curi some hibiscus) but both of them dont wan eat  doh.gif ....... so now change to franch long bean.  whistling.gif ..
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No need kaw other lui lah... mine enough for me, been with her for 3 years already still wanna kaw other girl kah ?

Ur star need to learn to be poor, eat all expensive thing. sweat.gif
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QUOTE(UPM_Parasite @ Sep 21 2006, 05:35 PM)
ICIC thank ya  notworthy.gif ..... U r handle man no 2 now  notworthy.gif  ( no 1 still is me.... hahaha) but if u dont mind can show me the bulb pic?? where u buy it??? UV bulb got thta cheap meh???  sweat.gif
So u cant "main kayu tiga" la....... also cant "kao" other leng lui lor, all u doing ur gf will know.  rclxub.gif

  Talk about food, my ST reli cerewet  doh.gif ..... they only eat hibiscus, cucumber, long bean and sawi only. just now give them try some jambu batu (today forget to curi some hibiscus) but both of them dont wan eat  doh.gif ....... so now change to franch long bean.  whistling.gif ..
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err, can feed cucumber meh? i thought cucumber onli water and can cause problems in the long run?

Titan: Ur star habitat is how big one? How about the measurements?
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err, can feed cucumber meh? i thought cucumber onli water and can cause problems in the long run?

Titan: Ur star habitat is how big one? How about the measurements?
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46cm x 30cm plastic aquirium
you can the aquirium in the photos/videos
it is still quite spacious for em

i've already spotted their future aquirium. it is a very long plastic container with metal bars on top. very portable and spacious. but my wife didn't give liccense yet... she said wait until they are bigger lar... blah blah blah... sweat.gif

for me ah... i only kasi them makan sawi...
and only hibiscus flowers on the weekend
i scared kasi too much variety, they will be picky... then susah rclxub.gif

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You are rite, mine picky sometime. If they really starved then eat what they can get. laugh.gif

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QUOTE(UPM_Parasite @ Sep 21 2006, 07:03 PM)
Hahaha...... so kesian la ur tort.
  Wonder if (i only say if) 1 day ur wife and ur tort terjatuh into sea, u will rescue who 1st??  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif
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the answer is always wife / gf biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(UPM_Parasite @ Sep 21 2006, 07:27 AM)
icon_question.gif So  i wonder what times the best for feeding our fella??  icon_question.gif i always feed them 2 times a day, 8am(before i go to class) and 10pm(after i back from class). it ok??    cool.gif
  this pic i get from http://nlbif.eti.uva.nl/bis/ it look so ugly, reli like frog more then like turtle.  sweat.gif
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That is a Big Headed Turtle (Platysternon megacephalum) from China. Pretty interesting turtle..held a hatchling in my hands last time but didnt settle with it. No where to be seen now...maybe one day. The well kept ones are actually good looking imho smile.gif


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QUOTE(titansulcata @ Sep 21 2006, 07:12 PM)
piece of advise dude...
the answer is always wife / gf  biggrin.gif
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Hahaha... I would say parents also.... I wanna get more tortoises also cannot... I'm would like another Star and an Elongated heheheh... sigh sigh.... I want another star star....
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Im also like that, i buy first without telling them. When i go back for semester break, i bring all back together and my mum said this to me --> "You bring back all ur child ar ?"
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izzit really compulsory to have basking area for turtles ar?? i still don have any tho... my RES had been wif me for years and they never haf any basking area b4 but they are OK... now if my musk... de question is, do i really need it? or optional or to haf it, is a bonus kind of thing?

uzairi, ur snapper need a basking light too?

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QUOTE(UPM_Parasite @ Sep 21 2006, 11:04 PM)
 
BTW so hope our parent support our hobby.  cool.gif wonder what will happenb if our parent hate turtle @ tortoise???  sweat.gif  sweat.gif  sweat.gif
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i don't think they will hate, unless we are not responsible to them... then they might be pist la

my wife at first doesn't like them. Now she is progressing. Today she said she wants to hand feed them. And recently i've noticed her sitting next to them and staring at them. I felt so happy to see her appreciating them..
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huh~~ my mum very support me pet things~~ from fish, lobster, crab, hermit crab...till now star tortoise (3 of them) she always fell happy to have a look on them, sometime help me bring them back from sun bath, then when i bring them out asked where i bring 'my son and daugther' to, extra vegie will ask me let them eat~~~~~ but~~~~~ she no allow me to buy new handphone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! huh~~~ so sad! hehe......

that ikan bilis and udang kecing is calcium supply~ hehe... (wat i give my res last time lah)

that ugly turtle look like parrot peak for me~ hehe....
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QUOTE(crazymouse_yyh @ Sep 21 2006, 09:32 PM)
Hahaha... I would say parents also.... I wanna get more tortoises also cannot... I'm would like another Star and an Elongated heheheh... sigh sigh.... I want another star star....
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lol. juz buy another one and put it wif ur current star. 1 star 1 container, 2 stars also 1 container. Doesnt matter one ma. I no need to ask also noe parents dun give. So I curi curi buy. And keep them hidden.
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QUOTE(ekiddie @ Sep 21 2006, 11:01 PM)
izzit really compulsory to have basking area for turtles ar?? i still don have any tho... my RES had been wif me for years and they never haf any basking area b4 but they are OK... now if my musk... de question is, do i really need it? or optional or to haf it, is a bonus kind of thing?

uzairi, ur snapper need a basking light too?

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Its recommended to sun them, if not u can use a basking lamp. Btw, RES dont need it that much compared to tortoise since its a turtle.

QUOTE(titansulcata @ Sep 21 2006, 11:12 PM)
i don't think they will hate, unless we are not responsible to them... then they might be pist la

my wife at first doesn't like them. Now she is progressing. Today she said she wants to hand feed them. And recently i've noticed her sitting next to them and staring at them. I felt so happy to see her appreciating them..
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Yeah, if we show that we really care and responsible they wont mind.

My gf also supporting me now, she's ok with it. She said if im happy she's happy. wub.gif
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QUOTE(crazymouse_yyh @ Sep 21 2006, 09:32 PM)
Hahaha... I would say parents also.... I wanna get more tortoises also cannot... I'm would like another Star and an Elongated heheheh... sigh sigh.... I want another star star....
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QUOTE(UPM_Parasite @ Sep 21 2006, 10:38 PM)
Haha....... u reli need a another star le, ur manggo reli feel lonely.  wub.gif u try ask ur parent la to give u buy new star.
PS: I never ask or tell my parent what i buy, what i do:hehe:  ............. like this 2 star, i use my own money to buy it without telling my parent  icon_rolleyes.gif .... dono y i so independent,  whistling.gif  i start from form 3 already live outside, so my relationship with with my family member is reli bad.  doh.gif  i never let them to control me.  whistling.gif
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QUOTE(ekiddie @ Sep 21 2006, 11:01 PM)
izzit really compulsory to have basking area for turtles ar?? i still don have any tho... my RES had been wif me for years and they never haf any basking area b4 but they are OK... now if my musk... de question is, do i really need it? or optional or to haf it, is a bonus kind of thing?

uzairi, ur snapper need a basking light too?

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Eujax, how much did u bought ur flatshell turtle ? Im interested with it and maybe later i can get it, maybe a year later. LOL. But im interested with it.
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so... u r saying my musk doesn't need tat much? hehe... tat's my concern tho... as my RES are adult d... kinda big now and it grown up without any basking light... so shud be no problem to them...

i'm asking coz' my razors are still hatchling...

but i don put them 'indoor' lar... it's out at my balcony... tho no direct sunlight but definately can see the sunray... haha!

thx...

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Eeshhh so lucky your gfs support you. My bf is like "Always talking about your Tortue. Boring nye la." =.=

(My parents still have no idea that I have a turtle at work.)
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QUOTE(UPM_Parasite @ Sep 21 2006, 05:35 PM)
ICIC thank ya  notworthy.gif ..... U r handle man no 2 now  notworthy.gif  ( no 1 still is me.... hahaha) but if u dont mind can show me the bulb pic?? where u buy it??? UV bulb got
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no la im not handyman. my diy lighting would only involve buying a reflector and some electrical wiring stuff. plus this is my first attempt. you are true handyman, really2 build by yourself notworthy.gif

QUOTE(UPM_Parasite @ Sep 22 2006, 09:07 AM)
Waaa............ dont say ur bf cemburu??? we always hear that ger cemburu but 1st times i hear man cemburu  sweat.gif  sweat.gif
BTW ur boss dont complain meh u put ur turtle in office???  whistling.gif
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i think the only reason we hear more gf cemburu than bf cemburu is because more men have turtles compared to girls icon_rolleyes.gif

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finally managed to get clear pictures of my turtles. maybe you guys will have a better idea of what im facing.
picture 1 and 2 : 1st res (just contracted the sickness)
picture 3 and 4 : 2nd res (already severe)


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this is my malayan box turtle. do you guys notice anything suspicous that i should be concerned about?
EDIT: found it in a drain next to my home last month

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QUOTE(sayasebuk @ Sep 22 2006, 10:12 AM)
this is my malayan box turtle. do you guys notice anything suspicous that i should be concerned about?
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i'm not sure... but wow, it is sure big smile.gif

btw, can you show us their home?
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UPM_Parasite: No leh. Actually all my colleagues come over to my desk to play with Tortue. They say it really helps them to destress and relax. ^^
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am thinking of bringing my turtles to see a vet. do you guys know any vet that can treat turtles? i live in kajang btw icon_question.gif
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Tortue is so cute la! He tertidur on the basking rock with one leg stretched out and his head resting on the surface. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(meiteoh @ Sep 22 2006, 04:42 PM)
Tortue is so cute la! He tertidur on the basking rock with one leg stretched out and his head resting on the surface. laugh.gif
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this kind of moment should take photograph ma and post here smile.gif

btw, i just left eighty-eight aquirium at subang branch. They have:-
2 sulcata hatchling at $480
2 star hatchling at $90
3 juvenile star at $120 to $160
3 juvenile russian at $680

when i was looking at the juvenile star, suddenly heard a sneeze. Then i saw water coming out of the star's nose. It must be sick. Kena RNS
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just left anothe eighty-eight branch pju 1/3d

they have:-
9 juvenile star at $120 to $160
9 hatchling star at $95
2 juvenile pancake not for sale
4 juvenile russian at $680
1 hatchling leopard at $480
2 juvenile hinge-back at $320
6 juvenile western pan turtle at $380
4 juvenile african helmet turtle at $150
2 juvenile african mud turtle at $150
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QUOTE(sayasebuk @ Sep 22 2006, 10:01 AM)
finally managed to get clear pictures of my turtles. maybe you guys will have a better idea of what im facing.
picture 1 and 2 : 1st res (just contracted the sickness)
picture 3 and 4 : 2nd res (already severe)
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QUOTE(sayasebuk @ Sep 22 2006, 10:12 AM)
this is my malayan box turtle. do you guys notice anything suspicous that i should be concerned about?
EDIT: found it in a drain next to my home last month
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Both of them need to eat more protein based food like pellets. I suggest u feed them good pellets like Nutrafin Basix or Ocean Free's Turtle Pellets. Also dont forget to sun them whenever u can ok ? They will recover but it will take some time. I did that to mine last time on my Malayan Box and they are ok now.

QUOTE(titansulcata @ Sep 22 2006, 06:15 PM)
just left anothe eighty-eight branch pju 1/3d

they have:-
9 juvenile star at $120 to $160
9 hatchling star at $95
2 juvenile pancake not for sale
4 juvenile russian at $680
1 hatchling leopard at $480
2 juvenile hinge-back at $320
6 juvenile western pan turtle at $380
4 juvenile african helmet turtle at $150
2 juvenile african mud turtle at $150
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Where's this shop located ? I only go to the subang branch before. unsure.gif
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QUOTE(uzairi @ Sep 22 2006, 06:42 PM)
Where's this shop located ? I only go to the subang branch before.  unsure.gif
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It's very near to Dataran Prima
http://www.88marine.com/reptiles-tortoise.htm

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What is RNS??? (ragut n samun??)  sweat.gif
   BTW nice colection there!!! so hope half is mines   whistling.gif
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RNS = Runny Nose Syndrome
http://home.earthlink.net/~rednine/RNS.html

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ICIC Thank that that info  notworthy.gif
Just now give my star hibiscus flower. waa so fast tak sampai 5 min already habis licin. both look so hungry, this morning i give them carrot but both so cerewet n dont wan eat, adoi  doh.gif  doh.gif that y now so hungry............. cool.gif
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btw, do they eat the hibiscus leave???

which one is u ah???
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titan... ur term of hatching is in wat size and juvenile is in wat size?

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titan... ur term of hatching is in wat size and juvenile is in wat size?

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agak agak

hatchling around 6cm and below
juvenile around 6cm to 12cm
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Yup they also eat hibiscus leave, i give them hibiscus leave at morning (if i got la) and hibiscus flower in nite.  icon_rolleyes.gif  only today morning dont have  leave that y i ganti with carrot, mana tahu they dont wan it.  doh.gif
  U see the most leng chai in that phot then then guy must be me lor.... haha  cool.gif
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wah, ppl leng chai wor... sweat.gif
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QUOTE(sayasebuk @ Sep 22 2006, 10:01 AM)
finally managed to get clear pictures of my turtles. maybe you guys will have a better idea of what im facing.
picture 1 and 2 : 1st res (just contracted the sickness)
picture 3 and 4 : 2nd res (already severe)
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QUOTE(sayasebuk @ Sep 22 2006, 10:12 AM)
this is my malayan box turtle. do you guys notice anything suspicous that i should be concerned about?
EDIT: found it in a drain next to my home last month
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Buddy, your Box Turtle is fine but your RES is in pretty bad condition especially the one in the bottom picture. The white colour spots on its carapace is caused by fungus attack. It may never recover as far as i i know as it has already been quite serious. I suggest you separate them immediately.

Water is very important and basking spots are almost a must when in comes to turtles imho. Hope your turtle can cure though.



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QUOTE(uzairi @ Sep 22 2006, 02:10 AM)
Eujax, how much did u bought ur flatshell turtle ? Im interested with it and maybe later i can get it, maybe a year later. LOL. But im interested with it.
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Uzairi, i got it from a friend so pretty good deal, as he only have one and its wild caught. Paid RM50 for it. Am looking for another one but have never seen any before so far. I've seen Malayan Snail Eaters but not this one.


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Waa good la if like that that show ur wife start to accept ur "anak angkat" thumbup.gif ........ luckly my gf so like my star.  wub.gif

Aiyo still need buy new hp meh??? got 1 already enough la  whistling.gif better save that money to buy new tort.  wub.gif
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This is sure a fast moving thread...hebat laa so fast 4 pages d since my last reply. Anyway i thought of going turtle hunting again tomorrow....anyone any suggestion where to get those local asian species? EUjax? Uzairi? Both of you have most asian turtles icon_rolleyes.gif I tend to like turtles more....wonder why...


Kamekame.

p/s btw those Common musk turtle is available in Ikano pet world. Saw it just now.Dont know how much, no price tag. And they have some 'big tortoises' as well! Not sure what they are but i think could be the Asian Brown tortoise. Got a few Elongated Tortoise as well. A lot of Star tortoise too but bigger ones not hatchlings....RM200 and aboce i think.

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QUOTE(UPM_Parasite @ Sep 22 2006, 10:56 PM)
Aiyo 3 just a small amount compare to Uzairi  notworthy.gif (he got 40),  notworthy.gif Titansulcata ( he got 7)...........
Hp just buy cheap cheap sudah la.... just buy nokia 3310  icon_rolleyes.gif save baget ma.  cool.gif
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QUOTE(kamekame8888 @ Sep 23 2006, 12:18 AM)
This is sure a fast moving thread...hebat laa so fast 4 pages d since my last reply. Anyway i thought of going turtle hunting again tomorrow....anyone any suggestion where to get those local asian species? EUjax? Uzairi? Both of you have most asian turtles  icon_rolleyes.gif I tend to like turtles more....wonder why...
Kamekame.
Asian ? U have to look around at Pets Family and Pets Safari, they have it.
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QUOTE(titansulcata @ Sep 22 2006, 08:30 PM)
nice smile.gif
btw, do they eat the hibiscus leave???

which one is u ah???
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Just went to Pets Family and Pets Safari today. Nothing changed in Pets family , a lot of changes in Pets Safari. Firstly i will list down all the turtles/tortoise they have.

Asian Giant Pond Turtle
Burmese Mountain Tortoise
Burmese Star Tortoise
Star Tortoise
Red Foot Tortoise
Elongated Tortoise
Forstein Tortoise
Russian/Greek Tortoise
Home Hingeback Tortoise
Forest Hingeback Tortoise
River Terrapin
Radiated Tortoise

So excited to see so many of them there. wub.gif
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those turts and torts are from pet's family alone or together wif pet's safari? hehe...

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I tend to like turtles more....wonder why...
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i prefer tortoise leh...

last time when i was in schooling, i rear res, but cannot tahan the water smell. the water have to change quite often. so i surrender.

tortoise on the other hand cleaner and hardly got smell.
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QUOTE(ekiddie @ Sep 23 2006, 04:26 AM)
those turts and torts are from pet's family alone or together wif pet's safari? hehe...

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Pets Safari. They have lots of em.

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» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

Wonder we can apply bo play sand/ loam mix to our star tortoise???  icon_question.gif
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Star tortoise need low humidity environment so its not suitable. Maybe it work best on Leopard and Sulcata only.

QUOTE(titansulcata @ Sep 23 2006, 10:50 AM)
i prefer tortoise leh...

last time when i was in schooling, i rear res, but cannot tahan the water smell. the water have to change quite often. so i surrender.

tortoise on the other hand cleaner and hardly got smell.
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Me too, i prefer tortoise but there's turtles in my collection because im collecting Asian turtles.
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QUOTE(UPM_Parasite @ Sep 23 2006, 06:34 AM)
Waa...................... u know julia??? u also from UPM???
ps: julia beauti right??? hope she r my ger ger........  wub.gif
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QUOTE(titansulcata @ Sep 23 2006, 10:50 AM)
i prefer tortoise leh...

last time when i was in schooling, i rear res, but cannot tahan the water smell. the water have to change quite often. so i surrender.

tortoise on the other hand cleaner and hardly got smell.
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me last time also have a RES, raise untill almost the size of my palm liao, but then i really cannot tahan the water, everytime after feed sure have to clean the water, if not later my grandma will merajuk again. i put my RES in a 2 ft aquarium, imagine that i wash the aquarium everyday shocking.gif some more last time still in secondary school no extra money buy filter... rclxub.gif
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Last time i used to place my Malayan box inside the 2ft tank. Everyday i changed the water and i pick the tank from my room to the toilet. doh.gif
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Wood chips i would say. Hay would get very messy when the pee or poo.
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uzairi... wat's de latest in ur collection lately? btw, u got how many ally snapper ha?

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QUOTE(uzairi @ Sep 23 2006, 09:28 PM)
Wood chips i would say. Hay would get very messy when the pee or poo.
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i tried to put hay, but i think the hay is a bit sharp. i scared will poke their eye. I see they walking in it also scared
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Hay can become moldy and breed bacteria when wet. Stick to woodchips. It is the best.

You can also try a brand called Woody Pet. I mix the woodchips with Woody Pet, absorbs pee very well.
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mm.. i using hay, i think it is fine since i separated my small stars and my 'sui gong' in two separated aquarium (thinking to put them together in a 3 feet aquarium), and my tortoises look like dont like to pee and poo (only once a day). hehe... so i just take out the hay which is wet/stick with pee/poo.
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QUOTE(UPM_Parasite @ Sep 22 2006, 11:56 PM)
Aiyo 3 just a small amount compare to Uzairi  notworthy.gif (he got 40),  notworthy.gif Titansulcata ( he got 7)...........
Hp just buy cheap cheap sudah la.... just buy nokia 3310  icon_rolleyes.gif save baget ma.  cool.gif
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haiya... i live in apartment lah, later i will be moving out from my house to study in PJ (if everything go smoothly), so not thinking to get anymore tortoise (except my boss get me the chaco tortoise lah) hehe...
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QUOTE(ekiddie @ Sep 23 2006, 09:52 PM)
uzairi... wat's de latest in ur collection lately? btw, u got how many ally snapper ha?

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Latest ? Asian Leaf Turtles. I have 2 Ally Snappers. thumbup.gif

QUOTE(titansulcata @ Sep 23 2006, 10:32 PM)
i tried to put hay, but i think the hay is a bit sharp. i scared will poke their eye. I see they walking in it also scared
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Yups, they would danger the tortoise in a way.

QUOTE(UPM_Parasite @ Sep 23 2006, 11:26 PM)
i saw some beeding is from coconut 's sabut, dono it call what. it sound like coconut  coir.  sweat.gif dono it suitable for our star or not??? i think this kind of coconut coir more humid, am i right???  whistling.gif
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Its a coconut husk.
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ur 2 ally snapper is predator and hunter izzit.. one big one small... hehe... easy to take care of ar?? summore they need not deep h2o... and seldom move much... shud be easy don they?

how bout' common snapper? they share de same characteristic?

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Yup, hunter and predator and they are one big one small. They are somehow easy to take care of provided u give them a good filteration system since they are always under the water. They do need deep h20 since they always stay under the water. Feed them small feeding fish depending on how big they are. Common snapper share all the characteristic of ally snapper except for they do hunt for their food which is opposite for ally. Ally just sit there and open their mouth and attract fish to come with its worm like tongue.
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QUOTE(UPM_Parasite @ Sep 23 2006, 08:38 PM)
sign0006.gif Yalor the world is too small.................... that pic is so meaningful for me,  that times we 10 people becomes HK, UPM top 10 member and she are vice president. i only AJK. so miss them now!!!   wub.gif
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yst i went to kepong to an aquarium shop... which if i'm not mistaken is called 'kin huat' or 'kin fatt'... well, they don haf turtles except for RES but they do have tortoises!

as i see... they haf 4 hatchling sulcatas and 24 stars... they put all of 'em together in one exo terra enclosure... nice sulcatas and de stars hatchling are so cute... hehe... sulcatas are going for RM500 and hatchling stars at RM80... de more u buy, price can talk lor...

mayb titansulcata wud like to sapu all of de sulcatas and gip them a more spacious home? hehe...

but after i look clearly ar... one of the sulcata's eye got wet2 and got one grey layer liddat... wat tat means ar?? as i see, their nose are clean and not waterish... just 1 of 'em i see the eyes are not so in a good condition... hmm... or can tat sulcata be blind? (i do hope not too...)

poor lil' tortoise...

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RES!!!

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QUOTE(ekiddie @ Sep 24 2006, 07:00 AM)
yst i went to kepong to an aquarium shop... which if i'm not mistaken is called 'kin huat' or 'kin fatt'... well, they don haf turtles except for RES but they do have tortoises!

as i see... they haf 4 hatchling sulcatas and 24 stars... they put all of 'em together in one exo terra enclosure... nice sulcatas and de stars hatchling are so cute... hehe... sulcatas are going for RM500 and hatchling stars at RM80... de more u buy, price can talk lor...

mayb titansulcata wud like to sapu all of de sulcatas and gip them a more spacious home? hehe...

but after i look clearly ar... one of the sulcata's eye got wet2 and got one grey layer liddat... wat tat means ar?? as i see, their nose are clean and not waterish... just 1 of 'em i see the eyes are not so in a good condition... hmm... or can tat sulcata be blind? (i do hope not too...)

poor lil' tortoise...

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i stay at kepong... can u give me some direction how to go to the shop??? would want to drop by to 8

titan can only sapu all if still single and no GF/Wife to nag rclxub.gif
but i think not advisable to have to have too many sulcata, cause they are huge (3rd largest tort in the world) when they are adult.

if the eye is a bit wet, then it is fine... but if too much then must beware...
speaking of eye problem, yesterday one of my star hatchling eyes got bubble... wahlao, i was like so scared. quickly use tissue paper to wipe it off. then it seems fine. have to monitor closely these few days

QUOTE(UPM_Parasite @ Sep 24 2006, 07:29 AM)
Present in sunday morning to all......
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U should hear ekiddie say........ buy more friend for ur titan  icon_rolleyes.gif ....
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super nice thumbup.gif btw, what is the tortoise bottom right?

cannot make big buy for this year liao cry.gif yesterday just make a big spending at Matta fair. pok kai
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some morning news...

Hawley teen sentenced in turtle burning
http://www.startribune.com/462/story/686605.html

Last update: September 19, 2006 - 6:19 AM

MOORHEAD, Minn. - An 18-year-old was sentenced to jail and community service for his part in setting a snapping turtle on fire, an incident he and his friends videotaped and posted on the Internet

Under the sentence handed down Monday, Joel Charles Ross, of Hawley, will have to serve at least five days in jail, perform at least 50 hours of community service, and pay a $500 fine that he can reduce by $400 with more community service. He would face more jail time and higher fines if he fails to comply with the terms of his probation.

Ross pleaded guilty last month to a misdemeanor charge of animal cruelty for an incident that captured the attention of online viewers and animal rights activists worldwide.

In late May, Ross and two juveniles videotaped themselves dousing the large snapping turtle with gasoline, lighting it on fire twice, and dancing around it. They were discovered after someone sent police an e-mail with a link to the video.

The two juveniles involved received community service earlier.

"This was something that just got way out of control, said Dennis Fisher, Ross's attorney. Fisher asked Clay County District Judge Michael Kirk to impose fines and community service but not jail time, saying Ross and his family had suffered enough.

Ross told Kirk he felt bad for his actions and knew they were wrong. He said his family has been affected, including a brother serving in Iraq.

"He's upset and probably thinks a lot less of me right now,'' Ross said.

Ross also said he had planned to sign up for the National Guard to do military police work. "Now I can't, because of this,'' he said.

Kirk said he wanted to see more empathy from Ross toward the animal.

In a letter published Tuesday in The Forum of Fargo, N.D., Ross's parents, Michael and Vicky Ross, said their son and his friends had been unfairly vilified by animal rights supporters.

"There is no pattern of cruelty with any of the three teens,'' they wrote. "There is nothing to indicate that this is anything but an isolated incident and will not likely be repeated with animals, much less humans. ... We and the other parents involved love our sons far more than these people love their stupid turtles and we believe they will turn out just fine.''

Teenagers admit lighting turtle on fire -- twice
http://www.startribune.com/462/story/602194.html

An 18-year-old has pleaded guilty to animal cruelty for a videotaped incident in which he and two friends lit a turtle on fire and danced around it.

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MOORHEAD, Minn. - An 18-year-old has pleaded guilty to animal cruelty for a videotaped incident in which he and two friends lit a turtle on fire and danced around it.

Joel Charles Ross of Hawley admitted they set the large snapping turtle on fire. He said they did it not once, but twice, and dressed up differently because they wanted to make their video "more funny and exciting.''

"I put the gas on the turtle and made a trail, and one of my friends ignited it with a lighter,'' he said.

The video was posted online. Ross was arrested after a police officer received it in an e-mail.

Ross acknowledged in court Monday that he knew the act would be cruel and painful to to the animal.

Judge Michael Kirk will sentence Ross Sep. 18. He could face up to 90 days in jail and a $1,000 fine.

But Ross's attorney doesn't expect the maximum because the two juveniles involved received community service.

Kirk also ordered a psychiatric evaluation for Ross after defense attorney Dennis Fisher said, "it was too expensive for the family to do it on their own.''

Fisher said the incident seemed to him to be a one-time event. "He has pets at home; he's had pets at home before,'' Fisher said. "None of those animals have ever been harmed.''
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Titan :
that 1 is spider tortoise, cute leh???  wub.gif
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  u dont have any "freedom" liao lor...... not same with me :-), i was wild horse, i born as free man, live as free man, die also as free man.
  BTW matta fair got sell any turtle @ tortoise bo??? LOL hahaha  whistling.gif
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spider tortoise, nice smile.gif but i haven seen it yet

wild horse? free man? shakehead.gif ya right... now u still not 'legally' attached ma... so free man lar... but when sudah sign the contract, semua freedom have to ask 'management' + 'financial controller'. that is what we call, 'commitment' rclxub.gif planning for the future, blah blah blah

5 months back, i'm a wild horse too smile.gif but now, a tame horse sad.gif

Animals in Matta fair??? No turtle/tortoise la... but got chicks thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(UPM_Parasite @ Sep 24 2006, 10:23 AM)
Adult spider tort 50% look like radiata tort le......  wub.gif
  Waseh u also wild horse b4 this....... tak sangka le  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif
  Luckly my gf is turtle @ tortoise lover, after we marry next year (yeah we plan it next year) i think i dont have any problem to get any tortoise in future, plus need to sain contract which is she cant control my freedom and hobby, if she dont agree then i find other ger ger la and she will regart it. hahaha  cheers.gif
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but if u want to buy tortoise, buy now lo. Next year marry going to spend more. Not cheap event
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QUOTE(ekiddie @ Sep 24 2006, 07:00 AM)
but after i look clearly ar... one of the sulcata's eye got wet2 and got one grey layer liddat... wat tat means ar?? as i see, their nose are clean and not waterish... just 1 of 'em i see the eyes are not so in a good condition... hmm... or can tat sulcata be blind? (i do hope not too...)

poor lil' tortoise...

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Maybe the baby sulcata sleeping and eyes not open wide. Or maybe because of too humid or too dry, depends also. But pity them lah, the pet shop owner doesnt really take care of them carefully. shakehead.gif

QUOTE(UPM_Parasite @ Sep 24 2006, 10:23 AM)
Adult spider tort 50% look like radiata tort le......  wub.gif
  Waseh u also wild horse b4 this....... tak sangka le  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif
  Luckly my gf is turtle @ tortoise lover, after we marry next year (yeah we plan it next year) i think i dont have any problem to get any tortoise in future, plus need to sain contract which is she cant control my freedom and hobby, if she dont agree then i find other ger ger la and she will regart it. hahaha  cheers.gif
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Wah, wild horse eh ? Im still a wild horse but with chains on my neck. Huhuhu... If she's ok then i can do anything, if she bad mood anything oso cannot. sweat.gif But now she's ok with it and somehow follows me to the pet shops eventough sometimes she looks boring. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(UPM_Parasite @ Sep 24 2006, 06:50 AM)
HK stand for hui kui.............. it a very nice 1,  wub.gif  wub.gif
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but most of de time i think wife/gfs won't haf the patient to wait so long as we tend to stay there look look look so long... hahaaa!! they will follow us along but will keep on make noise asking us to go... apalar... so boring...

titan, i'm not good in drawing but i can tell u where about is tat shop... very easy... okie... i'm very sure all kepong fella know where is Jusco Kepong lor, rite... Jusco Kepong on ur left and u'll be heading towards PJ side... go straight all de way and u'll be pass Project then a caltex too both on ur left... right after the caltex, there's a junction to turn in... take de turn and keep a look at the second block of the shoplots... it's de 2nd or 3rd shop on the second block... i think if i'm not mistaken... it's second block lar... hahaaa! but u just try to keep an eye on ur left lar... it's just right beside de road... very easy to notice... got a signboard written kin fatt or kin huat aquarium... can't recall too! hahaaa! u update me de shop name lar once u've went there... hahaaa! go see see look look lar... who knows de sulcatas there saw a good owner which will gip good life to tortoises calling out ur name asking u to bring them back to ur home... hahaaa!!

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QUOTE(ekiddie @ Sep 24 2006, 04:45 PM)
but most of de time i think wife/gfs won't haf the patient to wait so long as we tend to stay there look look look so long... hahaaa!! they will follow us along but will keep on make noise asking us to go... apalar... so boring...
Yup, when i go Pets Safari she will go to the book shop next to it. Then calling me few times asking wether im done or not. laugh.gif laugh.gif
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hahaaa! guess of the opp sex are liddat! tongue.gif oppss! later those womens in here shoot us down! hahaaa! who is a female turtle's lover in this thread ha?? i know only meiteoh... who else? hehe... pardon me if i miss anyone of u out...

neway, my girl wanna go M.Valley shopping today... walk walk walk and i walked into Pet's Wonderland seeing so long i din been there d... it was a very dissapointed walk inside... nothing to see and nothing interesting in there at all... for turtles lover tat's for sure! i only see 2 peacock turtles selling for RM198/pc... (expensif ka?? i donno market price and i never seen anyone selling this kind of turtles b4...) and lots of RES... got 2 pig nose inside de display tank and it's NOT for sale... no more... i see lots of dead rainbow crab or was it rainbow crab... they din take care of the place nicely... unlike Pet's Safari which is more systematic as i see... and yet, CLEAN! Pet's Wonderland are dirty and do stinks... no good... Pet's Family is even alot nicer! some of those aquarium shops do have more things to see than Pet's Wonderland... wat a dissapointed pet shop... which din stand to it's standard... and de price of the things are not cheap at all! RES selling for RM18/pc... whoa! ohmy.gif

here's a pic...

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btw... if anyone been to MV Pet's Wonderland and look at de tank of RES ar... there's 1 RES wif light brown carapace... is tat a normal RES or got sickness or etc ar?? it looks diff tho but it oso looked healthy... and it's de biggest of all in de tank... diff species??

i got a pic of it... here u go... user posted image

de RES i have which oledi an adult are not wif a shell tat color... it's in light brown O...

i see the peacock turtles very kesian too tho... but at RM198... pricey leh... just do hope they will jaga the turtles good lar... or someone will buy it... uzairi, u buy it lar... hehe... or eujax... biggrin.gif

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guys... off topic for awhile ah... hehe... my dad saw me alwiz online here looking at turtles and communicating... he asked me to ask a question to an answer on aquariums but not turtles lar... yet still got related abit...

he wanna know why his tank of fishes ar... very easy de water turns green and murky ar?? he place his aquarium at the balcony... no direct sunlight but can feel de sun heat lar... any idea? no aquarium lighting wan... just a norm aquarium wif lots of small fishes inside...

any idea ka?? and will tat happen to turtle's tank too or not?? de water really turns to green2 color... like very 'pekat' liddat... why ha??

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QUOTE(ekiddie @ Sep 24 2006, 04:45 PM)
but most of de time i think wife/gfs won't haf the patient to wait so long as we tend to stay there look look look so long... hahaaa!! they will follow us along but will keep on make noise asking us to go... apalar... so boring...

titan, i'm not good in drawing but i can tell u where about is tat shop... very easy... okie... i'm very sure all kepong fella know where is Jusco Kepong lor, rite... Jusco Kepong on ur left and u'll be heading towards PJ side... go straight all de way and u'll be pass Project then a caltex too both on ur left... right after the caltex, there's a junction to turn in... take de turn and keep a look at the second block of the shoplots... it's de 2nd or 3rd shop on the second block... i think if i'm not mistaken... it's second block lar... hahaaa! but u just try to keep an eye on ur left lar... it's just right beside de road... very easy to notice... got a signboard written kin fatt or kin huat aquarium... can't recall too! hahaaa! u update me de shop name lar once u've went there... hahaaa! go see see look look lar... who knows de sulcatas there saw a good owner which will gip good life to tortoises calling out ur name asking u to bring them back to ur home... hahaaa!!

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my wife also no patient when i see my things (not only tortoise), but when she see her things, i have to follow and be patient. i've actually concluded that most girls are like that. even my previous ex-es all also like that

thanks for the direction, i roughly know where u say. will drop by some time

QUOTE(uzairi @ Sep 24 2006, 04:49 PM)
Yup, when i go Pets Safari she will go to the book shop next to it. Then calling me few times asking wether im done or not. laugh.gif  laugh.gif
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my wife doesn't want to go in much, cause she hates snakes and tarantula. so when she's around, normally i cannot see much. i would prefer to window shop myself, more time and no rush

QUOTE(ekiddie @ Sep 24 2006, 05:06 PM)
hahaaa! guess of the opp sex are liddat! tongue.gif  oppss! later those womens in here shoot us down! hahaaa! who is a female turtle's lover in this thread ha?? i know only meiteoh... who else? hehe... pardon me if i miss anyone of u out...

neway, my girl wanna go M.Valley shopping today... walk walk walk and i walked into Pet's Wonderland seeing so long i din been there d... it was a very dissapointed walk inside... nothing to see and nothing interesting in there at all... for turtles lover tat's for sure! i only see 2 peacock turtles selling for RM198/pc... (expensif ka?? i donno market price and i never seen anyone selling this kind of turtles b4...) and lots of RES... got 2 pig nose inside de display tank and it's NOT for sale... no more... i see lots of dead rainbow crab or was it rainbow crab... they din take care of the place nicely... unlike Pet's Safari which is more systematic as i see... and yet, CLEAN! Pet's Wonderland are dirty and do stinks... no good... Pet's Family is even alot nicer! some of those aquarium shops do have more things to see than Pet's Wonderland... wat a dissapointed pet shop... which din stand to it's standard... and de price of the things are not cheap at all! RES selling for RM18/pc... whoa!  ohmy.gif 

here's a pic...

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pet wonderland used to be good, when there wasn't much big competitors like pet family and safari. i also feel disappointment when i visit wonderland last weekend, really nothing much
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guys... everyone knows stealing is bad... but i think i'm gonna do it either tonite or tomolo early early morning... '

wish me luck la ya...

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QUOTE(ekiddie @ Sep 24 2006, 06:30 PM)
guys... everyone knows stealing is bad... but i think i'm gonna do it either tonite or tomolo early early morning...  '

wish me luck la ya...

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wow !!!
Impressive !!! (i just joined this forum)


I though I;m the only one rearing toituise and turtle !!
( i'm the only one have this kind of pets in my circle of friends..)

I'll put up mind soon .....
keep it up !
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QUOTE(paogeh @ Sep 24 2006, 09:39 PM)
wow !!!
Impressive !!! (i just joined this forum)
I though I;m the only one rearing toituise and turtle !!
( i'm the only one have this kind of pets in my circle of friends..)

I'll put up mind soon .....
keep it up !
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QUOTE(ekiddie @ Sep 24 2006, 05:06 PM)
hahaaa! guess of the opp sex are liddat! tongue.gif  oppss! later those womens in here shoot us down! hahaaa! who is a female turtle's lover in this thread ha?? i know only meiteoh... who else? hehe... pardon me if i miss anyone of u out...
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U forget our moderator woh, ms crazymouse_yyh. whistling.gif

QUOTE(ekiddie @ Sep 24 2006, 05:12 PM)
btw... if anyone been to MV Pet's Wonderland and look at de tank of RES ar... there's 1 RES wif light brown carapace... is tat a normal RES or got sickness or etc ar?? it looks diff tho but it oso looked healthy... and it's de biggest of all in de tank... diff species??

i got a pic of it... here u go...
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de RES i have which oledi an adult are not wif a shell tat color... it's in light brown O...

i see the peacock turtles very kesian too tho... but at RM198... pricey leh... just do hope they will jaga the turtles good lar... or someone will buy it... uzairi, u buy it lar... hehe... or eujax...  biggrin.gif

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Erk, my name... blush.gif Im not that interested with turtles, i only pet asian turtles and certain ones like i like.

QUOTE(ekiddie @ Sep 24 2006, 06:30 PM)
guys... everyone knows stealing is bad... but i think i'm gonna do it either tonite or tomolo early early morning...  '

wish me luck la ya...

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Wah, what you're going to do man ? shocking.gif unsure.gif
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QUOTE(paogeh @ Sep 24 2006, 09:39 PM)
wow !!!
Impressive !!! (i just joined this forum)
I though I;m the only one rearing toituise and turtle !!
( i'm the only one have this kind of pets in my circle of friends..)

I'll put up mind soon .....
keep it up !
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QUOTE(ekiddie @ Sep 24 2006, 06:17 PM)
guys... off topic for awhile ah... hehe... my dad saw me alwiz online here looking at turtles and communicating... he asked me to ask a question to an answer on aquariums but not turtles lar... yet still got related abit...

he wanna know why his tank of fishes ar... very easy de water turns green and murky ar?? he place his aquarium at the balcony... no direct sunlight but can feel de sun heat lar... any idea? no aquarium lighting wan... just a norm aquarium wif lots of small fishes inside...

any idea ka?? and will tat happen to turtle's tank too or not?? de water really turns to green2 color... like very 'pekat' liddat... why ha??

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what type of food that ur dad give his fishie? i think green cause lumut lah.

opps..i not putting hay lah, i put 'sabut kelapa' as the bedding. sorry ah, hehe...wrong info. but last time i plan to put hay since they can eat it also. but no buy cause the smell i dont like it. coconut husk i think is ok, but u have to buy those 'dry' type, don't use that 'wet' type.
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hmm...always want to ask, why my 'sui gong' pattern look so different with the other's star tortoise? hehe....
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QUOTE(dai86 @ Sep 24 2006, 10:56 PM)
what type of food that ur dad give his fishie? i think green cause lumut lah.

opps..i not putting hay lah, i put 'sabut kelapa' as the bedding. sorry ah, hehe...wrong info. but last time i plan to put hay since they can eat it also. but no buy cause the smell i dont like it. coconut husk i think is ok, but u have to buy those 'dry' type, don't use that 'wet' type.
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dai86,

I just merge your postings and you post another one.... cannot edit meh? if you got anything to add, please edit your post. It is very tiring to always merge your postings.
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QUOTE(crazymouse_yyh @ Sep 24 2006, 11:06 PM)
dai86,

I just merge your postings and you post another one.... cannot edit meh? if you got anything to add, please edit your post. It is very tiring to always merge your postings.
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steady bro, i mean girl dun b so angry tongue.gif biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(hwa107 @ Sep 24 2006, 11:16 PM)
steady bro, i mean girl dun b so angry tongue.gif biggrin.gif
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told him many times liao but still the same... never change...aiyoh, tiring mah... also, I always merge post in this thread... others like no need wan, only the tortoise and turtle thread.
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hun the one in titansulcata avatar is call wat?
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The avatar titansulcata using is a Sulcata Tortoise hatchlings.
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ah thanks.. how much normaly we can get? they looks very nice.. will they grow big?
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It costs around rm500 to rm600, and it can grow quite big since its among the top 5 biggest tortoise in the world. It can grow up to 18" Straight Carapace Length.
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ahhh sooo expensive!! i saw once in petshop soooooooooooo beautiful...
waw so big huh? can put in the living hall as a stone deco hahaa

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Yup, exactly. They can grow quite big, why not consider a star tortoise ? They are beautiful too.
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heheh still prefer the Sulcata Tortoise hatchlings. they looks clean n lighter colors.. i like the boxes on their back.
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Yeah, ppl like it when they are small. But when they're big ? They can grow big quite fast.
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QUOTE(titansulcata @ Sep 24 2006, 07:11 PM)
don't worry. me, my mum, my wife, my nieces and upmparasite have done it a couple of times smile.gif
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QUOTE(uzairi @ Sep 24 2006, 10:39 PM)
U forget our moderator woh, ms crazymouse_yyh.  whistling.gif
Erk, my name...  blush.gif Im not that interested with turtles, i only pet asian turtles and certain ones like i like.
Wah, what you're going to do man ?  shocking.gif  unsure.gif
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hahaaa!! titan seems like know wat i'm talking about! hehe... more stories later tonite lar as i wanna go work now and my workplace got no net access...

titan... and u even knew tat upmparasite stole b4 ha? bet u n him partner in crime! hahaaa!!

and nezumitaro... do hope u'll like it too when they grow BIG as alot of ppl like it when they are small and when they have grow up... it's not being like anymore... de good example is RES... poor turtles...

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anyone in here got a hatchling malayan box turtles pic ka? i cant find in ATP leh... izzit they called it eastern box turtles ka?? i see diff carapace shape wan...

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QUOTE(uzairi @ Sep 25 2006, 12:03 AM)
Yeah, ppl like it when they are small. But when they're big ? They can grow big quite fast.
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and nezumitaro... do hope u'll like it too when they grow BIG as alot of ppl like it when they are small and when they have grow up... it's not being like anymore... de good example is RES... poor turtles...
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no worries, if i really take them home, i will love them till the end of the day, no matter how big or urgly they grow. but just fall in love at the 1st sign when i saw them. the rest of the day will more in bonding than beauty i think. am not that kind of see cute take home, then throw them aside when they grow. thats y it always make me take a long time to re-think if i want to take them home.. even one hamster, one betta fish.... smile.gif
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QUOTE(nezumitaro @ Sep 24 2006, 11:51 PM)
ahhh sooo expensive!! i saw once in petshop soooooooooooo beautiful...
waw so big huh? can put in the living hall as a stone deco hahaa
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QUOTE(nezumitaro @ Sep 24 2006, 11:58 PM)
heheh still prefer the Sulcata Tortoise hatchlings. they looks clean n lighter colors.. i like the boxes on their back.
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i like not only the shell, but also the way it stands and walk. it is very manly, compared to star. the way it pos... chun thumbup.gif

QUOTE(ekiddie @ Sep 25 2006, 07:34 AM)
hahaaa!! titan seems like know wat i'm talking about! hehe... more stories later tonite lar as i wanna go work now and my workplace got no net access...

titan... and u even knew tat upmparasite stole b4 ha? bet u n him partner in crime! hahaaa!!

and nezumitaro... do hope u'll like it too when they grow BIG as alot of ppl like it when they are small and when they have grow up... it's not being like anymore... de good example is RES... poor turtles...

ciaO~

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i was refering to hibiscus smile.gif
but i hope u are not intending to go to some park and fish RES... shocking.gif

btw, speaking of hibiscus, how to plant it ah? i tried to cut the branch and plant, one week liao, still no new leave. i think it is dead sad.gif

QUOTE(nezumitaro @ Sep 25 2006, 08:52 AM)
no worries, if i really take them home, i will love them till the end of the day, no matter how big or urgly they grow.  but just fall in love at the 1st sign when i saw them.  the rest of the day will more in bonding than beauty i think.  am not that kind of see cute take home, then throw them aside when they grow.  thats y it always make me take a long time to re-think if i want to take them home.. even one hamster, one betta fish....  smile.gif
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i also fall in love with sulcata at first sight. did some research, lagi fall in love smile.gif

btw, sulcata will most probably live longer than any of us in this forum and anyone birth today... if taken care properly, a sulcata can live for more than 100+ years old... so in future, have to train grandchildren to take care
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QUOTE(titansulcata @ Sep 25 2006, 09:07 AM)
3rd largest tortoise in the world  flex.gif
i like not only the shell, but also the way it stands and walk. it is very manly, compared to star. the way it pos... chun  thumbup.gif
i was refering to hibiscus smile.gif
but i hope u are not intending to go to some park and fish RES... shocking.gif

btw, speaking of hibiscus, how to plant it ah? i tried to cut the branch and plant, one week liao, still no new leave. i think it is dead sad.gif
i also fall in love with sulcata at first sight. did some research, lagi fall in love smile.gif

btw, sulcata will most probably live longer than any of us in this forum and anyone birth today... if taken care properly, a sulcata can live for more than 100+ years old... so in future, have to train grandchildren to take care
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yes yes agree!!!! walk also so macho!! when i see them, i also tot waw looks like those 1000 yr old tortoise!!! the legs are sooo nice.. wawwww long life oh... but if they grow so big, where to keep? if they r so long life, $700 also not expensive loh... yiiiii itchy hand now... hahahha... really beautiful felas..

when they are big will they big? do they recognise owner?
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QUOTE(uzairi @ Sep 22 2006, 06:42 PM)
Both of them need to eat more protein based food like pellets. I suggest u feed them good pellets like Nutrafin Basix or Ocean Free's Turtle Pellets. Also dont forget to sun them whenever u can ok ? They will recover but it will take some time. I did that to mine last time on my Malayan Box and they are ok now.
Where's this shop located ? I only go to the subang branch before.  unsure.gif
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Are JBL pellets not as good as nutrafin? i went to natural aquatic yesterday and looked at the ingredients for nutrafin, nothing different. blink.gif
QUOTE(ekiddie @ Sep 24 2006, 05:17 PM)
guys... off topic for awhile ah... hehe... my dad saw me alwiz online here looking at turtles and communicating... he asked me to ask a question to an answer on aquariums but not turtles lar... yet still got related abit...

he wanna know why his tank of fishes ar... very easy de water turns green and murky ar?? he place his aquarium at the balcony... no direct sunlight but can feel de sun heat lar... any idea? no aquarium lighting wan... just a norm aquarium wif lots of small fishes inside...

any idea ka?? and will tat happen to turtle's tank too or not?? de water really turns to green2 color... like very 'pekat' liddat... why ha??

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that is called algae bloom. i think the only reason is if it has access to sunlight, eventhough under shade and no direct sunlight, still have the same effect.
QUOTE(titansulcata @ Sep 24 2006, 05:55 PM)
my wife also no patient when i see my things (not only tortoise), but when she see her things, i have to follow and be patient. i've actually concluded that most girls are like that. even my previous ex-es all also like that

thanks for the direction, i roughly know where u say. will drop by some time
my wife doesn't want to go in much, cause she hates snakes and tarantula. so when she's around, normally i cannot see much. i would prefer to window shop myself, more time and no rush
pet wonderland used to be good, when there wasn't much big competitors like pet family and safari. i also feel disappointment when i visit wonderland last weekend, really nothing much
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hahaha sound familiar. whenever i want to go to petshop, i never let my wife to tag alone. more stressless and free rclxm9.gif


QUOTE(ekiddie @ Sep 25 2006, 07:50 AM)
anyone in here got a hatchling malayan box turtles pic ka? i cant find in ATP leh... izzit they called it eastern box turtles ka?? i see diff carapace shape wan...

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i think not the same. i have juvenile malayan box turtle but no hatclings one. i will post the picture in a while

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QUOTE(nezumitaro @ Sep 25 2006, 09:15 AM)
yes yes agree!!!! walk also so macho!!  when i see them, i also tot waw looks like those 1000 yr old tortoise!!! the legs are sooo nice..  wawwww long life oh... but if they grow so big, where to keep?  if they r so long life, $700 also not expensive loh... yiiiii itchy hand now... hahahha... really beautiful felas..

when they are big will they big? do they recognise owner?
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now if u want to buy, a few pet shops have... ranging from RM480 to RM500.

where to keep then ah... have to decide when time comes... lucky i have space at my house... can keep outside... but that will be like 7 to 8 years more to go

recognise owner? i m not sure, but they sure recognise food... cause when i bring food, they will come to me

how big is big?

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Sayasebudak: You have to feed other stuff apart from just pellets to make sure RES grows up with a good strong shell - especially if you don't sun him.

I haven't exactly been sunning Tortue since it's hazy and busy times at work but I make up for it by giving him D3 supplement (dropped into the water) (by Exo Terra) at least once every two weeks and a lot of calcium-rich foods like Sera Raffy-1, shrimp and Sera Raffy Baby. I give him a mix of Tetra Repto-min (has added vits and 3.3% calcium) and Sera Raffy Baby-Gran.

He loves Sera Raffy-1 - I think because they are crunchy - look like shrimp shells. Just this morning I decided to examine the shell to see if it's hard and alright - in better shape than my fingernails, I'd say.

Btw, those with RES, have you noticed some white, nearly transclucent stuff hanging off your RES's face/legs? I suspect Tortue is shedding but I don't know for sure.

ps: Found a pretty good site for RES: http://reslider.free.fr/en/index.html

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QUOTE(dai86 @ Sep 25 2006, 10:14 AM)
crazymouse_yyh leng lui, sorry lah.
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QUOTE(meiteoh @ Sep 25 2006, 10:55 AM)
Sayasebudak: You have to feed other stuff apart from just pellets to make sure RES grows up with a good strong shell - especially if you don't sun him.

I haven't exactly been sunning Tortue since it's hazy and busy times at work but I make up for it by giving him D3 supplement (dropped into the water) (by Exo Terra) at least once every two weeks and a lot of calcium-rich foods like Sera Raffy-1, shrimp and Sera Raffy Baby. I give him a mix of Tetra Repto-min (has added vits and 3.3% calcium) and Sera Raffy Baby-Gran.

He loves Sera Raffy-1 - I think because they are crunchy - look like shrimp shells. Just this morning I decided to examine the shell to see if it's hard and alright - in better shape than my fingernails, I'd say.

Btw, those with RES, have you noticed some white, nearly transclucent stuff hanging off your RES's face/legs? I suspect Tortue is shedding but I don't know for sure.

ps: Found a pretty good site for RES: http://reslider.free.fr/en/index.html
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i think it's normal shedding. maybe you can post a picture

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QUOTE(titansulcata @ Sep 25 2006, 10:28 AM)
now if u want to buy, a few pet shops have... ranging from RM480 to RM500.

where to keep then ah... have to decide when time comes... lucky i have space at my house... can keep outside... but that will be like 7 to 8 years more to go

recognise owner? i m not sure, but they sure recognise food... cause when i bring food, they will come to me

how big is big?

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ahhh u got ah??? outside not hot meh? got photos to show ah? show me lah plssssssssssssssssssss.... can keep in living hall? i mean let it free in the house hehe..
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QUOTE(nezumitaro @ Sep 25 2006, 11:52 AM)
ahhh u got ah??? outside not hot meh? got photos to show ah? show me lah plssssssssssssssssssss.... can keep in living hall? i mean let it free in the house hehe..
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ya, i have a hatchling sulcata... still very small... keepin him in my house in a aquirium. i let him walk outside very often

photos ah... check out my album
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QUOTE(ekiddie @ Sep 25 2006, 07:50 AM)
anyone in here got a hatchling malayan box turtles pic ka? i cant find in ATP leh... izzit they called it eastern box turtles ka?? i see diff carapace shape wan...

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Hatchling also called the same name. wink.gif

QUOTE(titansulcata @ Sep 25 2006, 09:07 AM)
btw, speaking of hibiscus, how to plant it ah? i tried to cut the branch and plant, one week liao, still no new leave. i think it is dead sad.gif
i also fall in love with sulcata at first sight. did some research, lagi fall in love smile.gif
U need to moist the branch and plant everyday, dont let it dry.

QUOTE(sayasebuk @ Sep 25 2006, 09:28 AM)
Are JBL pellets not as good as nutrafin? i went to natural aquatic yesterday and looked at the ingredients for nutrafin, nothing different. blink.gif
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Proton Wira and Mitsubishi Lancer is the same car. Notice the quality difference which separate them apart ?

QUOTE(meiteoh @ Sep 25 2006, 10:55 AM)
Sayasebudak: You have to feed other stuff apart from just pellets to make sure RES grows up with a good strong shell - especially if you don't sun him.

Btw, those with RES, have you noticed some white, nearly transclucent stuff hanging off your RES's face/legs? I suspect Tortue is shedding but I don't know for sure.
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Pellets and fish should do it to make the shell strong in short terms.

That white translucent thing is because of the water i supposed. Mind to post a pic here ?
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Uz & Sayasebudak: Will post pics tomorrow. Didn't bring camera today.
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I finally have an online photo album for my pets. Spent the weekend taking pictures
sayasebuk album

upmparasite: my DIY lighting pictures
http://sayasebuk.multiply.com/photos/album/2

i finally "sunbathed" my turtles for the 1st time
http://sayasebuk.multiply.com/photos/album/1

for those wanting to see my turtle housing
http://sayasebuk.multiply.com/photos/album/4




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QUOTE(sayasebuk @ Sep 25 2006, 02:25 PM)
I finally have an online photo album for my pets. Spent the weekend taking pictures
sayasebuk album

upmparasite: my DIY lighting pictures
http://sayasebuk.multiply.com/photos/album/2

i finally "sunbathed" my turtles for the 1st time
http://sayasebuk.multiply.com/photos/album/1

for those wanting to see my turtle housing
http://sayasebuk.multiply.com/photos/album/4
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nice setup rclxms.gif notworthy.gif thumbup.gif
really admire u guys... mine is so plain sweat.gif

btw, TTT - DIY Lightings
not scared kena electrocuted ah rclxub.gif
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want to ask, are they smelly?

WAWWW ur tortoise very beautiful!!! but i see u buy alot of things for them wor..

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QUOTE(sayasebuk @ Sep 25 2006, 02:25 PM)
I finally have an online photo album for my pets. Spent the weekend taking pictures
sayasebuk album

upmparasite: my DIY lighting pictures
http://sayasebuk.multiply.com/photos/album/2

i finally "sunbathed" my turtles for the 1st time
http://sayasebuk.multiply.com/photos/album/1

for those wanting to see my turtle housing
http://sayasebuk.multiply.com/photos/album/4
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Nice one bro, maybe im gonna do something like that for my star tortoise. Nice setup. thumbup.gif
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Wow...sayasebuk,

Very nice home for your Box turtle smile.gif Cool! thumbup.gif He/She must be real happy and lucky to have met you! Did you stick that platform by yourself? Its glass or plastic?



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QUOTE(nezumitaro @ Sep 25 2006, 02:55 PM)
want to ask, are they smelly?

WAWWW ur tortoise very beautiful!!! but i see u buy alot of things for them wor..
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not smelly at all... i remove the shit every day. the bedding will absorb their pee too. it is definately much cleaner and easier to maintan than water based turtle

accessories ah... u need:-
aquirium
wood bedding
basking holder
basking lamp
uvb lamp (buy, if u don't have time to sun bath em)
calcium supliment
vitamin supliment
themometer (optional)
hydrometer (optional)
bowl to eat (optional)
bowl to drink (optional)
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I have a quick question - I just tested Tortue's shell to see if it's soft.

It's a little bit like how when you soak your nails in the water and you can push them down more than you can when they are dry...does that mean he has shell softening (the front part of the shell near the head is hard, I was testing around the edge near his tail)?
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QUOTE(titansulcata @ Sep 25 2006, 02:51 PM)
nice setup  rclxms.gif  notworthy.gif  thumbup.gif
really admire u guys... mine is so plain  sweat.gif

btw, TTT - DIY Lightings
not scared kena electrocuted ah  rclxub.gif
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nolar, people in the planted aquarium community always do this to jimat kos. cost of a planted aquarium is way way higher than for a turtle/tortoise. have to be careful though how you place the wiring at your aquarium sweat.gif

QUOTE(nezumitaro @ Sep 25 2006, 02:55 PM)
want to ask, are they smelly?

WAWWW ur tortoise very beautiful!!! but i see u buy alot of things for them wor..
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the turtles are not smelly, just that the water will become smelly if you dont change it often enough. the stuff that i buy for them are considered "basic". no cosmetic/decoration pun smile.gif

QUOTE(kamekame8888 @ Sep 25 2006, 03:42 PM)
Wow...sayasebuk, 

Very nice home for your Box turtle smile.gif Cool!  thumbup.gif He/She must be real happy and lucky to have met you! Did you stick that platform by yourself? Its glass or plastic?
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it's glass. sent to glass shop. had to pay extra RM40. (actually not hard to do yourself. but quite hard to find a suitable sized glass). have to check their work though, because mine was leaking water at the basking area. had to use silicone sealant to cover the leak thumbup.gif

QUOTE(titansulcata @ Sep 25 2006, 04:00 PM)
not smelly at all...  i remove the shit every day. the bedding will absorb their pee too. it is definately much cleaner and easier to maintan than water based turtle

accessories ah... u need:-
aquirium
wood bedding
basking holder
basking lamp
uvb lamp (buy, if u don't have time to sun bath em)
calcium supliment
vitamin supliment
themometer (optional)
hydrometer (optional)
bowl to eat (optional)
bowl to drink (optional)
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i thought nezumitaro was asking me? never mind la i still want to reply icon_rolleyes.gif

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QUOTE(sayasebuk @ Sep 25 2006, 04:32 PM)
i thought nezumitaro was asking me? never mind la i still want to reply  icon_rolleyes.gif
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yahor... maybe he was talking to u...
i perasan pulak notworthy.gif notworthy.gif
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hahaha ok ok i am asking both... n thanks both ya!!! tongue.gif

hmmm but need to plain 1st, cos he gonna grow big big.
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i think this is the 2nd time im posting this question
anyone know any herp vets? blink.gif or at least one that has very good experience with turtles? im thinking of bringing my turtles to the vet icon_question.gif
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QUOTE(titansulcata @ Sep 25 2006, 04:00 PM)
not smelly at all...  i remove the shit every day. the bedding will absorb their pee too. it is definately much cleaner and easier to maintan than water based turtle

accessories ah... u need:-
aquirium
wood bedding
basking holder
basking lamp
uvb lamp (buy, if u don't have time to sun bath em)
calcium supliment
vitamin supliment
themometer (optional)
hydrometer (optional)
bowl to eat (optional)
bowl to drink (optional)
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That one should be hygrometer, which is used to monitor the humidity.

QUOTE(meiteoh @ Sep 25 2006, 04:21 PM)
I have a quick question - I just tested Tortue's shell to see if it's soft.

It's a little bit like how when you soak your nails in the water and you can push them down more than you can when they are dry...does that mean he has shell softening (the front part of the shell near the head is hard, I was testing around the edge near his tail)?
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Well, i think Tortue still lacks those calcium stuff. Maybe u really need to sun them lah once in a while.

QUOTE(sayasebuk @ Sep 25 2006, 05:10 PM)
i think this is the 2nd time im posting this question
anyone know any herp vets?  blink.gif or at least one that has very good experience with turtles? im thinking of bringing my turtles to the vet  icon_question.gif
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Dr Yeoh @ Tmn Megah, he's good with herps. Look for his address at Vet's List Thread.
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Rather than pellets, u need to sun him. That's the best method for them.
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Uz: Naturally...just that I've been a bit tad sibuk at work plus it's hazy where I am so it's just cloudy on most days. Still sun anyway?
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well maybe because it's near end of year so recently are sun light shine onto my balcony, but not long lar mayb one hour like that, so everyday like 11am like that i will quickly take my star to sun bath and then i realise that my star become much more active than before icon_rolleyes.gif
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dr yeoh is REALLY expensive when it comes to treating my dogs.
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QUOTE(meiteoh @ Sep 25 2006, 10:49 PM)
Uz: Naturally...just that I've been a bit tad sibuk at work plus it's hazy where I am so it's just cloudy on most days. Still sun anyway?
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Like what hwa said, star tend to be active after sunning session. As for me, all my turtles and tortoises looks active after sunning session.

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dr yeoh is REALLY expensive when it comes to treating my dogs.
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He might be expensive but he's good. thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(uzairi @ Sep 24 2006, 10:39 PM)
Wah, what you're going to do man ?  shocking.gif  unsure.gif
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QUOTE(titansulcata @ Sep 25 2006, 09:07 AM)
i was refering to hibiscus smile.gif
but i hope u are not intending to go to some park and fish RES... shocking.gif

btw, speaking of hibiscus, how to plant it ah? i tried to cut the branch and plant, one week liao, still no new leave. i think it is dead sad.gif
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hehe.. no, i din go steal any hibiscus plant... i went on fishing! hehe... but not fish RES but...

well... i've stole a turtle from a pond inside de compound of another apartment! hehe... tat's why i said tat i'm gonna make a steal and u guys plz do wish me luck! without being caught tat is... hehe...

de reason i did tat is tat i can't bear to stand de way de kids playing near de pond and how they treat tat turtle... i live in shophouses... and i can see the pond opposite me which is inside the compound of the apartments... i can see the pond directly at my balcony... and every evening i saw those young kids plays wif it... they used to throw rocks, and even i saw bricks too inside the pond and shud be towards the turtles lor i assumed... i saw those super noti ones went inside the pond and pick the turtle out and play wif it...

yst is de worst i've seen as they took the turtle out from the pond... put bricks surrounding the turle and oso turn the turle upside down and swing it... duH! wat worst is after they finish playing wif it... they just throw the turtle back into the pond... they don just throw it in like letting it off from the palm liddat... they throw it the way they slide it like de Shell ad in TV! i can't stand it anymore and said to myself i will go tonite which means yst nite or tis early morning to turtnap it back home...

din get to make it yst nite as it was dark and inside the pond were murky can't see a thing and i did it this early AM lor... hehe... SUCCEED! no one saw me doing tat and i got de turtle back home liow... it was a nice turtle... shud be a malayan box turtle... am i rite? below is the pic of the turtle... btw, how to take care of it? can gip me a quick brief? i just gave 'em turtle pellets for now... since it's so big... i put alot of de pellets into the bucket! hahaaa!

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i'll snap a pic of the plastron... can anyone tell me wat sex it is? thx!

do felt so eppy and great to have salvage the turtle from those punks... now i'm thinking wat to do wif tat turtle... but de turtle looks great... might keep it too... hehe... luckily it's shell din break and managed to witstand the tortures from those irresponsible no love for animals kind of kids! huh!! vmad.gif if next time i saw my kids torturing animals... i'll beat de hell out of them...

so, i guess i stole in ramadhan month is a sin liow lor... but i did it for good wor... hehe... forgiven wan ka? hehe...

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meiteoh... if i'm not mistaken, ur tortue is a RES, rite... i've pet 4 RES in total and some others turtles too and from what i see... RES do bask... they really need a place to dry up and sunning... it's best to sun them... if ur setup are not outdoor or even near outdoor like balcony... then just pick them up in a bucket or etc, put them under de sun or near de sun where they can 'feel' de sunlight... if it's balcony... u can see tat they will tend to lean towards de brightest side... just like a plant u planted at de balcony... it will go towards outside and not growing inwards...

unlike mud or musk which really seldom bask... but RES really do... if not direct but indirect oso works for them... and if u think it's very troubling for u... then just go and buy a UVB basking lamp for ur tortue lor... hehe...

neway, anyone can enlighten me de way to take care of a malayan box turtle? wat do they eat? need deep or shallow water enclosure? etc etc?? wat do i NEED to know to take care of them?

here's de pic of de plastron as said...

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wat sex it is ha?? he/she is way too shy away from human and bet he/she is scared of human already... once i go near him/her, de head and legs all will be stuffed back into de shell... i felt sad for it too... how can i rear it and make de turtle fear no human?

i've never seen it walk or swims... poor little turts... hmm... this is de bst shot tat i can get... summore it's a sneak shot...

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do help me to help him/her ya...

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Well, Tortue is active but I'm more concerned about him getting D3. Been very hazy so virtually no sun. At the moment I have him on D3 supplement but I don't think it's enough lor coz I see something weird on his shell (maybe I'm just being paranoid.)

UVB lamps are too expensive especially when you get sunlight for free all year round. Hmm...maybe I ought to take him back home to sun during the weekends. >.<

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QUOTE(uzairi @ Sep 26 2006, 02:49 AM)
Like what hwa said, star tend to be active after sunning session. As for me, all my turtles and tortoises looks active after sunning session.
He might be expensive but he's good.  thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(ekiddie @ Sep 26 2006, 04:41 AM)
neway, anyone can enlighten me de way to take care of a malayan box turtle? wat do they eat? need deep or shallow water enclosure? etc etc?? wat do i NEED to know to take care of them?

here's de pic of de plastron as said...

user posted image

user posted image

wat sex it is ha?? he/she is way too shy away from human and bet he/she is scared of human already... once i go near him/her, de head and legs all will be stuffed back into de shell... i felt sad for it too... how can i rear it and make de turtle fear no human?

i've never seen it walk or swims... poor little turts... hmm... this is de bst shot tat i can get... summore it's a sneak shot...

user posted image

do help me to help him/her ya...

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hard to determine its sex since cant see the tail and all.
these are websites that refer to regarding malayan box turtle
http://www.centralpets.com/animals/reptile...es/tur2623.html
http://www.chelonia.org/Articles/Camboinensiscare.htm
BTW, how big is it actually? mines i 4"++

QUOTE(meiteoh @ Sep 26 2006, 08:35 AM)
Well, Tortue is active but I'm more concerned about him getting D3. Been very hazy so virtually no sun. At the moment I have him on D3 supplement but I don't think it's enough lor coz I see something weird on his shell (maybe I'm just being paranoid.)

UVB lamps are too expensive especially when you get sunlight for free all year round. Hmm...maybe I ought to take him back home to sun during the weekends. >.<
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not that expensivela. my uvb bulb is rm42 (20 watt 24") and the holder cost me RM36.50 (DIY one)
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QUOTE(ekiddie @ Sep 26 2006, 04:41 AM)
he/she is way too shy away from human and bet he/she is scared of human already... once i go near him/her, de head and legs all will be stuffed back into de shell... i felt sad for it too... how can i rear it and make de turtle fear no human?

i've never seen it walk or swims... poor little turts... hmm... this is de bst shot tat i can get... summore it's a sneak shot...

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wah... u really turtlenap ah... the park got 'no fishing signboard' or not??? sweat.gif

a wild caught turtle/tortoise is harder to rare...
i think u need more time, cause it is not used to man handle

is it eating yet???
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Sayasebudak: I got no space for tubes. I'm looking for BULBS. tongue.gif

Anyway, I think I'll sun him during lunch and when I balik over the weekends la.

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ekiddie, slick job! But i advice you dont do it again! Stealing is still something not very nice to be done but anyway, he look fine to me. You need to provide him a proper both water and land area then he'll be fine. From your pictures i am guessing it a 'He' smile.gif



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QUOTE(meiteoh @ Sep 26 2006, 09:05 AM)
Sayasebudak: I got no space for tubes. I'm looking for BULBS. tongue.gif

Anyway, I think I'll sun him during lunch and when I balik over the weekends la.
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if bulbs than cannot help. very very very expensive one. rclxub.gif try looking at places other than pet family. i noticed that they tend to overprice the products. good luck though. i havent found them at any other place. even some shops that sell exo-terra stuff haven't heard of it icon_rolleyes.gif
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Sayasebudak: I know. RM180 for one bulb. Pengsan la I.

ANYWAY, bless the heavens la coz today finally got bright sunshine. I sunned him next to the window (opened of course so he got pure sunshine instead of filtered sunlight) for about 15 mins...and my colleague is gonna sun him proper for an hour when they go play badminton later. YAY!

I took some pics anyway. Will put them up later for peeps to see.

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QUOTE(meiteoh @ Sep 26 2006, 11:24 AM)
Sayasebudak: I know. RM180 for one bulb. Pengsan la I.

ANYWAY, bless the heavens la coz today finally got bright sunshine. I sunned him next to the window (opened of course so he got pure sunshine instead of filtered sunlight) for about 15 mins...and my colleague is gonna sun him proper for an hour when they go play badminton later. YAY!

I took some pics anyway. Will put them up later for peeps to see.
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nothing beats the original.... buy so expensive, but looks like a normal bulb... scared fake or not really producing same result...

wahlao, ur turtle got a lot of kai father and mother thumbup.gif take turn to take care
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QUOTE(ekiddie @ Sep 26 2006, 04:41 AM)
unlike mud or musk which really seldom bask... but RES really do... if not direct but indirect oso works for them... and if u think it's very troubling for u... then just go and buy a UVB basking lamp for ur tortue lor... hehe...
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QUOTE(sayasebuk @ Sep 26 2006, 08:52 AM)
err how expensive should i expect?

not that expensivela. my uvb bulb is rm42 (20 watt 24") and the holder cost me RM36.50 (DIY one)
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How expensive ? Expect it to be more than rm50 and less than rm100. I supposed. whistling.gif

QUOTE(titansulcata @ Sep 26 2006, 09:03 AM)
wah... u really turtlenap ah... the park got 'no fishing signboard' or not???  sweat.gif

a wild caught turtle/tortoise is harder to rare...
i think u need more time, cause it is not used to man handle

is it eating yet???
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Every adult Malayan Box Turtle we can find now is wild caught. Its hard to find adult CB Malayan Box.

QUOTE(EuJax @ Sep 26 2006, 10:49 AM)
ekiddie, slick job! But i advice you dont do it again! Stealing is still something not very nice to be done but anyway, he look fine to me. You need to provide him a proper both water and land area then he'll be fine. From your pictures i am guessing it a 'He' smile.gif
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I also think that the boxie is a 'He'.

QUOTE(sayasebuk @ Sep 26 2006, 10:56 AM)
if bulbs than cannot help. very very very expensive one.  rclxub.gif try looking at places other than pet family. i noticed that they tend to overprice the products. good luck though. i havent found them at any other place. even some shops that sell exo-terra stuff haven't heard of it icon_rolleyes.gif
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I think Pets Family UVB fluoroscent lamp is cheaper than other places. Long ones, Repti Glo 5.0 only rm67.

QUOTE(titansulcata @ Sep 26 2006, 12:30 PM)
nothing beats the original.... buy so expensive, but looks like a normal bulb... scared fake or not really producing same result...

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They are expensive for a reason. If u check their website, the UVB output is much higher throughout Repti Glo 3.0, 5.0 and 8.0 compared to a normal ones and they are designed specifically for reptile's use. So its safe to use to them.
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Do you guys monitor the temperature of your turtles enclosure, especially for those species with from different climates. blink.gif

For my RES, i know that their from the US, and most websites recommend that the temperature for the basking area and water area to be way way lower than the temperature that i am having now for my RES. they even recommended me to buy a chiller! shocking.gif which is way way expensive. should this be of any concern? could it be that the RES sold here are locally bred and therefore already adapted/evolved to our climate?

maybe i should install a fan at my res aquarium (similar like the one i used for my planted aquarium)

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Those RES are from Eastern US, yes. But those we have are CB here and they live with our climate quite well too. I even put my RES enclosure out of the house and they have a natural sunlight basking spot which at noon is quite hot. And 50% of the enclosure is water. If they feel hot, they will go inside the water or hide under a pot i put. So dont worry about them, they are the most hardy turtles ive ever met.


p/s: Ive added owner's turtles/tortoise list at Page 1. Kindly list down what u have and i'll update the list. Tq. cool.gif

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p/s: Ive added owner's turtles/tortoise list at Page 1. Kindly list down what u have and i'll update the list. Tq.  cool.gif
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Geochelone Sulcata
http://sulcata-station.org/
http://www.anapsid.org/sulcata.html
http://www.chelonia.org/articles/sulcatacare.htm
http://africantortoise.com/
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Damnit. No sun today when my colleague took Tortue out to sun - rain somemore. >.<

Eessshhh...looks like I had better go get that UVB bulb la and take him home on the weekends. >.<
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QUOTE(uzairi @ Sep 26 2006, 03:00 PM)
p/s: Ive added owner's turtles/tortoise list at Page 1. Kindly list down what u have and i'll update the list. Tq.  cool.gif
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0.1.0 - Geochelone elegans

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QUOTE(uzairi @ Sep 26 2006, 03:00 PM)
Those RES are from Eastern US, yes. But those we have are CB here and they live with our climate quite well too. I even put my RES enclosure out of the house and they have a natural sunlight basking spot which at noon is quite hot. And 50% of the enclosure is water. If they feel hot, they will go inside the water or hide under a pot i put. So dont worry about them, they are the most hardy turtles ive ever met.
p/s: Ive added owner's turtles/tortoise list at Page 1. Kindly list down what u have and i'll update the list. Tq.  cool.gif
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pheww. glad to hear that sweat.gif. i was afraid that our climate had anything to do with the condition of my turtles
my turtle list:
1.0.0 - Cuora Amboinensis (you sure ke uzairi mine is male?)
0.2.0 - Trachemys scripta elegans (at least i think they're female)

QUOTE(meiteoh @ Sep 26 2006, 03:48 PM)
Damnit. No sun today when my colleague took Tortue out to sun - rain somemore. >.<

Eessshhh...looks like I had better go get that UVB bulb la and take him home on the weekends. >.<
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maybe you can buy the shortest reptiglo bulb which is only 15 inches. i think that not be too long. the price is below RM40 somemore

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I'd like to ask how does the bedding hay looks like? I always hear you guys mention but never know hows it like...bukan forest bark kah? Or are they same? Picture will be good! Thanks.


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what is the best bedding that is easy to maintain for star tortoises?
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Sayasebudak: Tak boleh oso. I'm using my office table lamp - just substituting the bulb.

Anyway, I forked out RM200 for one UVB bulb (7% UVB), and two basking lights - ExoTerra Basking Spot and ExoTerra Daylight Bulb (one of the is 60W, the other is 50W)...and RM1.50 for filter sponge. sweat.gif

Oh, I took some pics of Tortue, have a look and see if:

(pics are too big so pls click on the link!)

1) Is he shedding skin or what? (look at the face!)
- http://static.flickr.com/114/253219649_50b785cbbf_o.gif
- http://static.flickr.com/79/253219647_d07c730e4b.jpg

2) Is he growing new shutes or suffering from "soft-shell syndrome"? Look carefully around the tail on the left side.
- http://static.flickr.com/84/253219660_afb647f1f7_o.gif
- http://static.flickr.com/88/253219662_ed09d3c957_o.gif
- http://static.flickr.com/112/253219657_2712d68e4b_o.gif (bottom)
- http://static.flickr.com/89/253219652_ae9f8f804b_o.gif (under water and at a certain angle)

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QUOTE(kamekame8888 @ Sep 26 2006, 05:50 PM)
I'd like to ask how does the bedding hay looks like? I always hear you guys mention but never know hows it like...bukan forest bark kah? Or are they same? Picture will be good! Thanks.
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u can use timothy hay... but i don't like to use hay as bedding, cause i think the hay's edge is a bit sharp for em

there are many brands... this is what i have
http://mytortoise.multiply.com/photos/photo/5/25

QUOTE(shadowcaster @ Sep 26 2006, 07:44 PM)
what is the best bedding that is easy to maintain for star tortoises?
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i'm not sure whether it is the best, but this is commonly used and easy to maintain
http://mytortoise.multiply.com/photos/photo/5/19
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what is the best bedding that is easy to maintain for star tortoises?
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Suggest wood chips. Get Chipsi Extra... or you can go for Woody Pet, great at absorbing pee... I found the best is mixing Chipsi Extra with Woody Pet, works really well compared to many types of bedding I used.

I have used Aspen wood shavings, corn cob, peat moss.... forest bark....
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uzairi... looks familiar???

user posted image

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interesting. thanks for the tips.
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QUOTE(titansulcata @ Sep 26 2006, 08:29 PM)
u can use timothy hay... but i don't like to use hay as bedding, cause i think the hay's edge is a bit sharp for em

there are many brands... this is what i have
http://mytortoise.multiply.com/photos/photo/5/25
i'm not sure whether it is the best, but this is commonly used and easy to maintain
http://mytortoise.multiply.com/photos/photo/5/19
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Thanks Titan smile.gif that clears up thumbup.gif Nice picture of Ally Snapper smile.gif

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QUOTE(hwa107 @ Sep 26 2006, 04:00 PM)
0.1.0 - Geochelone elegans

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U sure bo its a female ? Too young to know the gender la sis.

QUOTE(sayasebuk @ Sep 26 2006, 04:09 PM)
pheww. glad to hear that  sweat.gif. i was afraid that our climate had anything to do with the condition of my turtles
my turtle list:
1.0.0 - Cuora Amboinensis (you sure ke uzairi mine is male?)
0.2.0 - Trachemys scripta elegans (at least i think they're female)

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80% sure. But can u confirm wether the plastron got concave or not ? If concave confirm 100% male.

QUOTE(kamekame8888 @ Sep 26 2006, 05:50 PM)
I'd like to ask how does the bedding hay looks like? I always hear you guys mention but never know hows it like...bukan forest bark kah? Or are they same? Picture will be good! Thanks.
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Looks like a lalang. laugh.gif

QUOTE(titansulcata @ Sep 26 2006, 08:40 PM)
uzairi... looks familiar???

user posted image

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Familiar, seen that pic also. Just that my biggest ally prolly the same size with the small one inside the 1st pic. laugh.gif laugh.gif
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QUOTE(uzairi @ Sep 26 2006, 11:22 PM)
U sure bo its a female ? Too young to know the gender la sis.
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me also not sure, just i feel that is she... blush.gif
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QUOTE(meiteoh @ Sep 26 2006, 08:05 PM)
Sayasebudak: Tak boleh oso. I'm using my office table lamp - just substituting the bulb.

Anyway, I forked out RM200 for one UVB bulb (7% UVB), and two basking lights - ExoTerra Basking Spot and ExoTerra Daylight Bulb (one of the is 60W, the other is 50W)...and RM1.50 for filter sponge.  sweat.gif

Oh, I took some pics of Tortue, have a look and see if:

(pics are too big so pls click on the link!)

1) Is he shedding skin or what? (look at the face!)
- http://static.flickr.com/114/253219649_50b785cbbf_o.gif
- http://static.flickr.com/79/253219647_d07c730e4b.jpg

2) Is he growing new shutes or suffering from "soft-shell syndrome"? Look carefully around the tail on the left side.
- http://static.flickr.com/84/253219660_afb647f1f7_o.gif
- http://static.flickr.com/88/253219662_ed09d3c957_o.gif
- http://static.flickr.com/112/253219657_2712d68e4b_o.gif (bottom)
- http://static.flickr.com/89/253219652_ae9f8f804b_o.gif (under water and at a certain angle)
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Fot the first two picts, i think just normal shedding. I saw the same thing with my two RES. The faster they grow, the more skin you will see. My littlest RES sheds more skin than her bigger sister. When i bought them, she was way smaller. Now they are already the same size (after 3 mths).
FOr the rest of the picts, i think your tortue is beginning to get problems like my two RES. Furthermore, do you see any pink area at the plastron (under shell). i read that this should also be a concern.

QUOTE(uzairi @ Sep 26 2006, 11:22 PM)
80% sure. But can u confirm wether the plastron got concave or not ? If concave confirm 100% male.
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The thing is, im not sure whether its concave or not. Nampak macam tak. May need to look at some examples
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Meet my first turtle. tongue.gif
My girlfriend (now wife) bought it for me when coming back from kelantan. Guess that was a sign of things to come yess tongue.gif


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Meet Shelly.
I bought her for my wife's birthday last july. I think was just a few weeks after i bought my RES. biggrin.gif . My wife loves her very much and brings her to bed blush.gif

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Sayasebudak: Just make sure she doesn't kick you out of bed. LOL.

Anyway, no pink parts. I just got him set up with the new lamp and stuff. Hopefully he'll bask coz it kinda looks intimidating with two big ass lamps right on top of the basking platform.

His tank is cleaner too coz I got rid of a lot of gravel/pebbles...just have one big rock log and a handful of small stones plus his four plants - he loves them!
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QUOTE(hwa107 @ Sep 27 2006, 03:06 AM)
me also not sure, just i feel that is she... blush.gif
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Wahseh, u feel or u wanted it to be a female ? Later become shemale than u know. laugh.gif

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The thing is, im not sure whether its concave or not. Nampak macam tak. May need to look at some examples
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If its totally flat then female, if got melengkung(concave) a bit then sure male.

QUOTE(sayasebuk @ Sep 27 2006, 09:40 AM)
Meet my first turtle. tongue.gif
My girlfriend (now wife) bought it for me when coming back from kelantan. Guess that was a sign of things to come yess  tongue.gif
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QUOTE(sayasebuk @ Sep 27 2006, 09:42 AM)
Meet Shelly.
I bought her for my wife's birthday last july. I think was just a few weeks after i bought my RES.  biggrin.gif . My loves her very much and brings her to bed blush.gif
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Indeed, a sign from ur wife. thumbup.gif
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Anyone found any turtle enclosures such as these waterlandtubs here in malaysia?
http://www.waterlandtubs.com/products.htm
How much easier life would be kalau ada
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QUOTE(meiteoh @ Sep 27 2006, 10:31 AM)
Sayasebudak: You can make your own no?
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sayasebuk, that waterland tub is definitely great for raring turtles where they need both water and land! I dont think we have it here though and looking at the price stated in the site, its not gonna be cheap if it ever touch our shore aint it? wink.gif

meiteoh, congrats on your new lighting icon_rolleyes.gif your turtle must be happy! biggrin.gif

I am still lurking around for my first turtle...Uzairi, found any new local Asian turtles baru baru ni? How is all your turtles?



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QUOTE(sayasebuk @ Sep 27 2006, 10:23 AM)
Anyone found any turtle enclosures such as these waterlandtubs here in malaysia?
http://www.waterlandtubs.com/products.htm
How much easier life would be kalau ada
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Too expensive, i think its better if we buy those big blue tank and DIY it ourself. The problem is they are not that portable anymore after it is completed since we going to make it like a natural habitat. Soils, small trees, 50% land 50% water. brows.gif brows.gif

QUOTE(kamekame8888 @ Sep 27 2006, 12:58 PM)
I am still lurking around for my first turtle...Uzairi, found any new local Asian turtles baru baru ni? How is all your turtles?
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QUOTE(uzairi @ Sep 27 2006, 01:28 PM)
Too expensive, i think its better if we buy those big blue tank and DIY it ourself. The problem is they are not that portable anymore after it is completed since we going to make it like a natural habitat. Soils, small trees, 50% land 50% water.  brows.gif  brows.gif
Nope, no new local Asian Turtles. Maybe their mating season ended, so no more seeing them at the illegal markets.  rolleyes.gif
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how much does the blue tank cost anyway?
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Aiya...just use your water tangki la. smile.gif Old Town has a few shops that sell tubs like that. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(sayasebuk @ Sep 27 2006, 01:40 PM)
how much does the blue tank cost anyway?
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Expect at least rm200 for a 4ft X 2ft tank.

QUOTE(meiteoh @ Sep 27 2006, 02:10 PM)
Aiya...just use your water tangki la. smile.gif Old Town has a few shops that sell tubs like that. biggrin.gif
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Anybody here houses their turtles in those blue tubs? Any picture to share of how the setup is? Maybe Uzairi? smile.gif Actually they can be use to house tortoise as well kan? As long as dont put water then those Star Tortoise, Leopard Tortoise etc can be kept as well right? Just my thought icon_idea.gif



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I kept my 11 Malayan Box inside the blue tank, 100% water tho but not that deep. Everyday need to clean it. sweat.gif

Tortoises can be placed inside the blue tank also, put some soil, natural plants and pots for their hiding place. wub.gif
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just visited aquirium kin fatt kepong. They only left 2 sulcata and 17 star. They have one big ally inside
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Too many star eh, and how big is the ally ? How much ?
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QUOTE(uzairi @ Sep 27 2006, 04:06 PM)
I kept my 11 Malayan Box inside the blue tank, 100% water tho but not that deep. Everyday need to clean it. sweat.gif

Tortoises can be placed inside the blue tank also, put some soil, natural plants and pots for their hiding place. wub.gif
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100% water meaning no basking spot? BTW by using water tanks, how do you manage filtering and water changing? Been hovering in my mind for quite some time smile.gif
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QUOTE(uzairi @ Sep 27 2006, 04:39 PM)
Too many star eh, and how big is the ally ? How much ?
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a lot of star and a lot of vege. some star is beneath the vege

the ally, i think around 25cm. Quite huge. No price tag, didn't ask

their star is quite pretty (in terms of it's shell)
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so it's kin fatt and not kin huat lar izzit...

got 2 sulcata d ar?? u bot de another 2?? i counted it last were 24 stars! who bot de 7 stars... whoa! good business eh... hehe...

got ally inside meh?? i din see any de other day... where did they place it?

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QUOTE(ekiddie @ Sep 27 2006, 07:48 PM)
so it's kin fatt and not kin huat lar izzit...

got 2 sulcata d ar?? u bot de another 2?? i counted it last were 24 stars! who bot de 7 stars... whoa! good business eh... hehe...

got ally inside meh?? i din see any de other day... where did they place it?

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i think out there, there's quite a lot of ppl with star now. i think sulcata owner at least 20+ ppl, cause those sulcata i've seen in pet shops are gone

the ally, if u stand at the entrance... is at the right hand row of aquiriums


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O okie okie... if i passby next time... will drop by see see... hehe... any other places nearby kepong got turtles and tortoises ar??

i saw ipoh road batu 4 got an aquarium shop... but donno got turts and torts not... i see they don just sell fishes but oso hamsters and etc... if i passby nxt time (not nite), i'll drop by see see got anything worth seeing not... hehe... will let u know...

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just now titan tried to burrow out... keep on diggin... very noisy

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QUOTE(sayasebuk @ Sep 27 2006, 05:51 PM)
100% water meaning no basking spot? BTW by using water tanks, how do you manage filtering and water changing? Been hovering in my mind for quite some time  smile.gif
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How should i say... 1/3 of the turtles's height. There's no basking spot which is really dry. They go get natural sunlight indirectly since i put them outside of the house. I dont use any filtering device for them, changing their water manually every 2 days is a must. And when im not at home, its either my dad or my little bro who's gonna do it. laugh.gif

QUOTE(titansulcata @ Sep 27 2006, 05:56 PM)
a lot of star and a lot of vege. some star is beneath the vege

the ally, i think around 25cm. Quite huge. No price tag, didn't ask

their star is quite pretty (in terms of it's shell)
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Wah, beneath the vege ar ? Later sufffocated. Quite big ally they have there, maybe can be my ally's fren. blush.gif
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i just got this from a forward mail...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=loBjotwlYZE
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Hahaha, ROFL what a joke. laugh.gif
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hahahaaa!! coOL one titan... u try to strap ur hp on ur sulcata see... hahaaa! laugh.gif

rber to film it down ya!

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QUOTE(uzairi @ Sep 28 2006, 01:54 AM)
Hahaha, ROFL what a joke. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(ekiddie @ Sep 28 2006, 07:27 AM)
hahahaaa!! coOL one titan... u try to strap ur hp on ur sulcata see... hahaaa!  laugh.gif

rber to film it down ya!

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yalar, so slow... the bottom one so bored
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is turtles Zzz time same like us human??

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QUOTE(ekiddie @ Sep 28 2006, 03:04 PM)
is turtles Zzz time same like us human??

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i'm not sure about turtle, but for my tortoise, i've noticed their sleeping pattern

during day time, they will take short naps. wake up and walk then nap again.

but at night, they will sleep soundly. I know cause every morning when i woke up, they will still be same position they slept at night
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QUOTE(uzairi @ Sep 27 2006, 08:45 PM)
How should i say... 1/3 of the turtles's height.  There's no basking spot which is really dry. They go get natural sunlight indirectly since i put them outside of the house. I dont use any filtering device for them, changing their water manually every 2 days is a must. And when im not at home, its either my dad or my little bro who's gonna do it.  laugh.gif
Wah, beneath the vege ar ? Later sufffocated. Quite big ally they have there, maybe can be my ally's fren.  blush.gif
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change manually meaning cedok air using pail & bucket? Or do the tanks have pipes/taps that you can turn on to remove the water?
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wow titan... u can even remember each and everyone of ur tortoises' position since last nite ha? coOL lar u... hehe...

but as wat i see... tortoises sleeps more than turtles... they are tend to stay at de same spot very often wan... they are lazier than turtles too as i see or maybe they are heavier? hehe...

here's my RES which they like to dry up themselves by stretching their legs all out without touching the water for a very long period... and u know wat... they even sleep this way with their eye's close!

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stretcheeed... hehe...

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i just got this from a forward mail...

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QUOTE(titansulcata @ Sep 28 2006, 03:57 PM)
i'm not sure about turtle, but for my tortoise, i've noticed their sleeping pattern

during day time, they will take short naps. wake up and walk then nap again.

but at night, they will sleep soundly. I know cause every morning when i woke up, they will still be same position they slept at night
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This is true, added that their most active time is afternoon.

QUOTE(sayasebuk @ Sep 28 2006, 04:11 PM)
change manually meaning cedok air using pail & bucket? Or do the tanks have pipes/taps that you can turn on to remove the water?
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I just terbalikkan the tank and wash it. Turtles were running here and there that time, me n my bro kejar each of them. Then i refill the tank back with water and place them back inside. thumbup.gif

QUOTE(ekiddie @ Sep 28 2006, 04:34 PM)
but as wat i see... tortoises sleeps more than turtles... they are tend to stay at de same spot very often wan... they are lazier than turtles too as i see or maybe they are heavier? hehe...
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True that tortoise are heavier than turtles. They also sleep most of the time since they dont need to find water and food. doh.gif
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QUOTE(uzairi @ Sep 28 2006, 05:30 PM)
This is true, added that their most active time is afternoon.
I just terbalikkan the tank and wash it. Turtles were running here and there that time, me n my bro kejar each of them. Then i refill the tank back with water and place them back inside.  thumbup.gif
True that tortoise are heavier than turtles. They also sleep most of the time since they dont need to find water and food.  doh.gif
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hahaaa! coz' food and water are provided by the keeper! tongue.gif

i did de same thing when washing my tank... just terbalikkan de tank and wash... clean as new... hehe... and it's good to have no gravels inside... makes it much more easy to wash... tis applies to those water based turtles...

tortoises leh?? u all need not wash de tank?? last time i i pet hamsters need to wash their tank coz' their shits and urines stinks!

here's another rear shot of my RES stacking up on each other coz got no more dry land beside on top of tat small piece of rock... hahaaa!!

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QUOTE(ekiddie @ Sep 28 2006, 04:34 PM)
wow titan... u can even remember each and everyone of ur tortoises' position since last nite ha? coOL lar u... hehe...

but as wat i see... tortoises sleeps more than turtles... they are tend to stay at de same spot very often wan... they are lazier than turtles too as i see or maybe they are heavier? hehe...

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every night, i'll take a look at them b4 i sleep. usually they will sleep earlier than me. can remember, not that hard biggrin.gif

QUOTE(ekiddie @ Sep 28 2006, 05:41 PM)
tortoises leh?? u all need not wash de tank?? last time i i pet hamsters need to wash their tank coz' their shits and urines stinks!
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my bubu aquirium, nearly 2 months didn't change/wash. still no smell.
i think is because i remove their shit and often sun bath them. when under the sun, the think the aquirium less smell

gheng la ur turtle... can stack up like tat notworthy.gif

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walau... 2 months din wash ar??! if my turtles 2 months din changed water ar... i think de turtle will KOed too lor...

i never tot it was so easier to take care of... but when u sun them, tat really shoo de stinks off...

only RES can stacks... others can't... even de flat softshells oso cant stack or they don wanna stack... hehe...

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QUOTE(ekiddie @ Sep 28 2006, 08:18 PM)
walau... 2 months din wash ar??! if my turtles 2 months din changed water ar... i think de turtle will KOed too lor...

i never tot it was so easier to take care of... but when u sun them, tat really shoo de stinks off...

only RES can stacks... others can't... even de flat softshells oso cant stack or they don wanna stack... hehe...

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my stars try to stack... but will never jadi. their shell too round. will normally terbalik

yalor, i didn't expect the wood bedding to last tat long. like tat very economy thumbup.gif

i think the fomula is at the sun tan
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QUOTE(ekiddie @ Sep 28 2006, 08:18 PM)
walau... 2 months din wash ar??! if my turtles 2 months din changed water ar... i think de turtle will KOed too lor...
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Tortoise mah, they dont stink that much compared to turtles. Summore got bedding, open basking lamp the urine and poo dry edi. Smell a bit lah, but after throw no more smell. I change my star's bedding 2 months once. thumbup.gif
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hey... abt malayan box turtles ar... besides kangkung... wat else do they eat?

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QUOTE(uzairi @ Sep 28 2006, 05:30 PM)
This is true, added that their most active time is afternoon.
I just terbalikkan the tank and wash it. Turtles were running here and there that time, me n my bro kejar each of them. Then i refill the tank back with water and place them back inside.  thumbup.gif
True that tortoise are heavier than turtles. They also sleep most of the time since they dont need to find water and food.  doh.gif
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wa lau weeyy, every two days have to do that? konfirm i cannot do. balik from work always near dusk. ill need to think a strategy hehe.
BTW for your turtles do you just use tap water or decholrinated salted water?
QUOTE(ekiddie @ Sep 29 2006, 07:17 AM)
hey... abt malayan box turtles ar... besides kangkung... wat else do they eat?
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ermm mine also eats pellets and blood worms. but they really like kangkung. i tried giving him sawi but he doesnt like it. only eat after 2 3 days.
but now i trick him a bit. mix kangkung with sawi. walla, finish semua.

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DO you guys know what are the top 5 biggest tortoise? I've been phantasizing. wouldn't it be cool during hari raya, people come to your house and get the shock of their life after seeing a few giant tortoises roaming around your house. thumbup.gif . that really is something you dont see everyday. i know i haven't seen it. in fact, i've never even seen a house with baby/juvenile pet tortoises/turtles let alone adults.

i know galapagos and sulcata are among the top 5 icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(sayasebuk @ Sep 29 2006, 09:08 AM)
DO you guys know what are the top 5 biggest tortoise? I've been phantasizing. wouldn't it be cool during hari raya, people come to your house and get the shock of their life after seeing a few giant tortoises roaming around your house.  thumbup.gif . that really is something you dont see everyday. i know i haven't seen it. in fact, i've never even seen a house with baby/juvenile pet tortoises/turtles let alone adults.

i know galapagos and sulcata are among the top 5 icon_rolleyes.gif
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yes, it would be definately cool...

but don't need giant tortoise also people wow about it. my relatives came, and saw my stars, they are also impressed with them. those that hardly go aquirium will say first time see real tortoise. it feels nice sharing informations to them too
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something i found on the internet and want to share with you all, a baby star on a galapagos head... whistling.gif whistling.gif

found from here.
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QUOTE(ekiddie @ Sep 29 2006, 07:17 AM)
hey... abt malayan box turtles ar... besides kangkung... wat else do they eat?

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I feed mine with pellets and feeding fish aside from kangkung.

QUOTE(sayasebuk @ Sep 29 2006, 09:08 AM)
DO you guys know what are the top 5 biggest tortoise? I've been phantasizing. wouldn't it be cool during hari raya, people come to your house and get the shock of their life after seeing a few giant tortoises roaming around your house.  thumbup.gif . that really is something you dont see everyday. i know i haven't seen it. in fact, i've never even seen a house with baby/juvenile pet tortoises/turtles let alone adults.

i know galapagos and sulcata are among the top 5 icon_rolleyes.gif
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1. Galapagos Tortoise (South America)
2. Aldabra Tortoise (African)
3. Sulcata Tortoise (African)
4. Leopard Tortoise (African)
5. Burmese Mountain Tortoise (Asian)
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anyone knows how fast can an ally snapper grow and how long it will take?

uzairi... how big is ur predator or izzit hunter (big one) d ar?? in SCL and how old is he?

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Found a good link with lot's of turtle and tortoise links
http://www.theturtleranch.com/turtles

A diary of someone who owns sulcata:-
Living with Sulcata 1
Living with Sulcata 2
Living with Sulcata 3
Last Week...
Interview
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thx for de link titan...

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QUOTE(ekiddie @ Sep 29 2006, 08:02 PM)
anyone knows how fast can an ally snapper grow and how long it will take?

uzairi... how big is ur predator or izzit hunter (big one) d ar?? in SCL and how old is he?

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Ally snapper quite big, and how fast they grow depends on their diet. If u feed them meat, they will grow big quite fast. If u feet them with fishes, they will grow a bit slow.

Predator is around 12 Inch SCL, Hunter is 4 Inch SCL. He(predator) is around 5-6 Years now whereas hunter is just around 2 years old.
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QUOTE(uzairi @ Sep 30 2006, 12:31 AM)
Ally snapper quite big, and how fast they grow depends on their diet. If u feed them meat, they will grow big quite fast. If u feet them with fishes, they will grow a bit slow.

Predator is around 12 Inch SCL, Hunter is 4 Inch SCL. He(predator) is around 5-6 Years now whereas hunter is just around 2 years old.
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wa, 12 inch

so how big is your biggest turtle and tortoise?
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whoa... 5-6years and it's 12"... not bad oso ha... hehe... coz' de problem is i stay in an apartment... and if it's too big it's hard for me to have place for them u see... unless when it grow super big d... i gave it to uzairi lor... hahaaa!!

ya... wat's de biggest turtles/tortoises u have? and years taken to take care of them?

o yah... how bout' common snapper?

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QUOTE(ekiddie @ Sep 30 2006, 08:36 AM)
whoa... 5-6years and it's 12"... not bad oso ha... hehe... coz' de problem is i stay in an apartment... and if it's too big it's hard for me to have place for them u see... unless when it grow super big d... i gave it to uzairi lor... hahaaa!!

ya... wat's de biggest turtles/tortoises u have? and years taken to take care of them?

o yah... how bout' common snapper?

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ekiddie, actually the snapper grow rate depend on your feeding and where you house it as well, just like what Uzairi mentioned earlier. The more you feed the growth rate is sure faster. Like mine i only feed them fishes and maintain them in small aquarium thus they dont grow more than 5 inch even after i'd had them for almost 5 years now. They are just fine and they adapt to the environment very well.

Common does not grow as big as Ally Snapper but they are aggresive turtles. Cute when they are young wink.gif



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QUOTE(hwa107 @ Sep 29 2006, 04:53 PM)
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something i found on the internet and want to share with you all, a baby star on a galapagos head...  whistling.gif  whistling.gif

found from here.
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Thats really cute! Thanks for sharing with us hwa.



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QUOTE(titansulcata @ Sep 30 2006, 07:16 AM)
wa, 12 inch

so how big is your biggest turtle and tortoise?
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QUOTE(ekiddie @ Sep 30 2006, 08:36 AM)
whoa... 5-6years and it's 12"... not bad oso ha... hehe... coz' de problem is i stay in an apartment... and if it's too big it's hard for me to have place for them u see... unless when it grow super big d... i gave it to uzairi lor... hahaaa!!

ya... wat's de biggest turtles/tortoises u have? and years taken to take care of them?

o yah... how bout' common snapper?

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Biggest should be my Male Asian Giant Pond Turtle which is around 20 Inch SCL. The measurement is around that size, not sure the exact size. Later im going back so i will take the pic from my sis's hp and upload and calculate the real size of my Grandis.

Im glad to adopt ur turtles/tortoise and take care f them for u. blush.gif

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i suddenly realised that one of my baby star tortoise eyes is totally blur until all blurred untl like got cataract. totally cannot white. how to cure?
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here pic of uzairi's predator....

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if anyone bumped into any pet shops that are selling hatchling ally snapper... i want!!!

plz do inform me ya... hehe... i've decided to pet one... if i found any...

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QUOTE(uzaimy @ Oct 1 2006, 07:01 AM)
here pic of uzairi's predator....

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very nice, any more photos? How about his other collections?

QUOTE(ekiddie @ Oct 1 2006, 08:42 AM)
if anyone bumped into any pet shops that are selling hatchling ally snapper... i want!!!

plz do inform me ya... hehe... i've decided to pet one... if i found any...

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cool and good luck hunting smile.gif

few years back at jalan pasar, i saw them selling quite a lot ally. that was before the fire incident. now they don't have already
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as usual it's a month, and i did the measurement for them

weird, there is no growth. Bubu length and weight is exactly the same

Titan weight is the same, and the length only increased by 0.5cm

they have been eating 2 meals a day and is healty, but just couldn't understand why no growth

Given Name: Bubu Star
Species: Indian Star Tortoise (Geochelone Elegans)
Purchased Date: October 2005 (around 6 months old when purchased)
Purchased Price: RM120
Bottom Shell Length:-
2006-08-01 = 6.6cm
2006-09-01 = 7.2cm
2006-10-01 = 7.2cm
Weight:-
2006-08-01 = 85g
2006-09-01 = 100g
2006-10-01 = 100g

Given Name: Titan Sulcata
Species: African Sulcata Tortoise (Geochelone Sulcata)
Purchased Date: 1st August 2006 (around 4 months old when purchased)
Purchased Price: RM500
Purchased At: Pet Safari (Ikano)
Bottom Shell Length:-
2006-08-01 = 5.8cm
2006-09-01 = 6.0cm
2006-10-01 = 6.5cm
Weight:-
2006-08-01 = 60g
2006-09-01 = 70g
2006-10-01 = 70g

A special moment, all 3 stars drinking at the same time...
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QUOTE(ekiddie @ Oct 1 2006, 08:42 AM)
if anyone bumped into any pet shops that are selling hatchling ally snapper... i want!!!

plz do inform me ya... hehe... i've decided to pet one... if i found any...

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Ally babies are hard to find now, prolly because of them keeping it to monitor the market price.

QUOTE(titansulcata @ Oct 1 2006, 10:31 AM)
very nice, any more photos? How about his other collections?
cool and good luck hunting smile.gif


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QUOTE(ekiddie @ Oct 1 2006, 08:42 AM)
if anyone bumped into any pet shops that are selling hatchling ally snapper... i want!!!

plz do inform me ya... hehe... i've decided to pet one... if i found any...

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ekiddie, thats interesting turtle but size does matter in the future no? Anyway how much does one expect to pay for a baby Alligator Snapping turtle?

Anyone here have the hatchling before? smile.gif



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i guess uzairi had it since a hatchling...

yes... i wants a hatchling ally snapper... anyone?

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post Oct 1 2006, 11:22 PM

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QUOTE(kamekame8888 @ Oct 1 2006, 09:17 PM)
ekiddie, thats interesting turtle but size does matter in the future no? Anyway how much does one expect to pay for a baby Alligator Snapping turtle?

Anyone here have the hatchling before? smile.gif
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Expect to pay around rm170 to rm200 for baby snapper.

QUOTE(ekiddie @ Oct 1 2006, 11:07 PM)
i guess uzairi had it since a hatchling...

yes... i wants a hatchling ally snapper... anyone?

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thx uzairi... yes... i've expected tat price... very nice... i'm hooked! hehe... i've seen de REAL one d... very de coOL!

an offside Q... hehe... does money plant be used in our turtle tank ka?? which in my tank got musk and RES... will it do any harm or will those plants be poisonic to my turtle??

here's de pic of it... de money plant as well as those floating donno call wat plant... hahaaa!!

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will it be safe for water turtles??

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post Oct 1 2006, 11:43 PM

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uzairi... if u do bumped into any hatchling ally snapper... do pm me ya... lunch on me! (after fasting month lar... hehe...)

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Show you something... uncommon hahaha....

http://www.amazonreptilecenter.com/popup.php3?id=1932
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albinos... i saw in those US forums... they likes to breed albinos... how they can mixed those genes ha? genius ler...

but i've never seen albino tortoises... only turtles... hahaaa!! why ha?? coz' albinos can't feed de sun??

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may i know do those albino animal, not only turtles lar but other animal also. do they have the same problem with human albino, where albino ppl cannot expose too long under sun? if yes then how do those albino turtles sun bath??
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donno... maybe they dont? tat's why it's on turtles and not on tortoises...

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donno... maybe tat's why it's only on turtles and not tortoises...

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i think there albino sulcata do exists, i think i saw it somewhere...
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ekiddie: I think they are okay for water turtles. A colleague of mine has some in the same tub where she keeps her RES.

Update: Yup, Tortue is shedding big time. There is a huge patch of dead skin clinging onto his neck but still no signs of the brown patch on his shell going away. On top of that, the grooves on his shell have become deeper...need to ask, how do RES shed their schutes (sp)?
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QUOTE(ekiddie @ Oct 1 2006, 11:42 PM)
thx uzairi... yes... i've expected tat price... very nice... i'm hooked! hehe... i've seen de REAL one d... very de coOL!

an offside Q... hehe... does money plant be used in our turtle tank ka?? which in my tank got musk and RES... will it do any harm or will those plants be poisonic to my turtle??

here's de pic of it... de money plant as well as those floating donno call wat plant... hahaaa!!

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will it be safe for water turtles??

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I i recognize them correctly, than i think there should be no problem. I've had them both in my turtle aquariums before. but decided not put anymore. because will easily die and clog my filter. usually because not enough nutrition, or got whacked by the turtles smile.gif
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QUOTE(hwa107 @ Oct 2 2006, 06:56 AM)
i think there albino sulcata do exists, i think i saw it somewhere...
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someone was asking a question about her/his RES eye condition.
i think no one replied or noticed

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...8&#entry8650668
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Updates on my turtle. Went to see a vet at City Pets Serdang last saturday. I brought all three of my turtles.
Findings:
Eventhough the vet is not an exotice/herp vet, she seems to know what she's doing and quite experienced. notworthy.gif Apparantly she has received a lot of visits from turtle owners (most of the time from some radiated owners who lives nearby). She gave some antibiotics and shell care stuff. She found nothing wrong with my malayan box turtle. (my box turtle no longer swims lopsided BTW). rclxm9.gif
All in all i was quite satisfied with the vet. I can see that she likes pet (she kept talking to the turtles) smile.gif .

BTW since i havent named my turtles (im bad with names), i've decided to call them
abang (malayan box), kakak (older RES) and adik ( younger RES) wub.gif
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QUOTE(titansulcata @ Oct 2 2006, 03:54 PM)
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QUOTE(sayasebuk @ Oct 2 2006, 05:36 PM)
Updates on my turtle. Went to see a vet at City Pets Serdang last saturday. I brought all three of my turtles.
Findings:
Eventhough the vet is not an exotice/herp vet, she seems to know what she's doing and quite experienced.  notworthy.gif Apparantly she has received a lot of visits from turtle owners (most of the time from some radiated owners who lives nearby). She gave some antibiotics and shell care stuff. She found nothing wrong with my malayan box turtle. (my box turtle no longer swims lopsided BTW). rclxm9.gif
All in all i was quite satisfied with the vet. I can see that she likes pet (she kept talking to the turtles)  smile.gif .

BTW since i havent named my turtles (im bad with names), i've decided to call them
abang (malayan box), kakak (older RES) and adik ( younger RES)  wub.gif
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Which part of Serdang ? And how do u feed them antibiotics ? How much does it costs ?
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QUOTE(uzairi @ Oct 2 2006, 05:41 PM)
That is one nice sulcata.  rclxms.gif
Which part of Serdang ? And how do u feed them antibiotics ? How much does it costs ?
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Forgot to mention, it was only RM15. She gave me some liquid antibiotics to be fed directly to the RES. (if i want to give to the box turtle, should put it into his food since he is not sick). I read somewhere that it is better to inject antibiotics than to feed them. dont know how true though.
The clinic is at serdang raya. its along the road from seri kembangan to K.L when you want to skip sg besi tol (PLUS). The doctor that i met was dr goh. they have 3 doctors i think.
BTW i think confirmla my box turtle is a he smile.gif

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sayasebuk, thanks for sharing your experience with the vet. Btw, how did you confirm your Malayan Box turtle a male? The vet said so? smile.gif Anyway glad your turtles are all doing fine.

ekiddie, there is this fish shop in TTDI they have a yearling Alligator Snapping turtle. Not hatchling but just a little bit bigger. Not sure bout price but i saw it when i was there last two weeks. Good luck in your hunt.

uzairi, any new turtles for yourself?



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QUOTE(EuJax @ Oct 2 2006, 05:59 PM)
sayasebuk, thanks for sharing your experience with the vet. Btw, how did you confirm your Malayan Box turtle a male? The vet said so? smile.gif Anyway glad your turtles are all doing fine.

ekiddie, there is this fish shop in TTDI they have a yearling Alligator Snapping turtle. Not hatchling but just a little bit bigger. Not sure bout price but i saw it when i was there last two weeks. Good luck in your hunt.

uzairi, any new turtles for yourself?
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hey! update me then... hehe... coz' i cant be going tat side tomolo...

o yah... thx eujax for de reply... hehe...

and titan... if u do round by there... do tell us de whereabout is tat place ya... maybe eujax can guide titan there? hehe...

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I'd like to know too...where is the shop? Terima kasih eujax biggrin.gif What else do they have there? Turtles and tortoise of coz icon_rolleyes.gif



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QUOTE(EuJax @ Oct 2 2006, 05:59 PM)
uzairi, any new turtles for yourself?
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I got myself a new female Asian Leaf Turtle and a dead turtle. Not sure what type, still searching what turtle is that. My fren told me got new nice turtle, so i go there to have a look. When i go there dead already, so he just gave me the carapace. laugh.gif

Here's the pic of the dead turtle.
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QUOTE(uzairi @ Oct 2 2006, 09:40 PM)
I got myself a new female Asian Leaf Turtle and a dead turtle. Not sure what type, still searching what turtle is that. My fren told me got new nice turtle, so i go there to have a look. When i go there dead already, so he just gave me the carapace.  laugh.gif

Here's the pic of the dead turtle.
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wow, where u find so much jalan...

who/where is ur fren with all these jalan...
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Hehe, a long time fren of mine. Cant disclose his name here coz he doesnt want to be published.

If u guys need anything, i can help too. Rite now he has plenty of Asian Black Breasted juveniles going for rm150 each for first 3, then rm170 each. He has 5 rite now. Anybody interested ?

Here's the sample pic :- user posted image
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Ok now, for anyone who wanted to see my collection's SCL here's some that i managed to get when im at home yesterday.

Male Malayan Box Turtle :-
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Asian Giant Pond Turtle :-
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Female
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Spiny Hill Turtle :-
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ever wonder how many books are there on turtle & tortoise

http://www.waterschildpad.info/literatuurEN2.htm
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QUOTE(uzairi @ Oct 2 2006, 10:04 PM)
Hehe, a long time fren of mine. Cant disclose his name here coz he doesnt want to be published.

If u guys need anything, i can help too. Rite now he has plenty of Asian Black Breasted juveniles going for rm150 each for first 3, then rm170 each. He has 5 rite now. Anybody interested ?

Here's the sample pic :- user posted image
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People, i am not sure of the name of the shop in TTDI but if you come from 1U side, after the traffic lights at the cross road, go straight till you come to another traffic light, turn left. Follow the road as it curves to right (at this time, there are row of shophouses on your right) and all the way till you see shop houses on your left,turn left and its in the middle of those shops. I will go there tomorrow again and find out the name.

Sorry titan, i am not good in directing people. Hope you can find it.

Kamekame, they have a pair of juvenile Star tortoise but not for sale. Very nice Star tortoise i must say. They also have a Malayan Flatshell turtle but not for sale either.

Uzairi, i am interested in those Black Breasted Leaf turtles but i'd like to see the actual turtle, possible to arrange? PM me please. Thank you very much.
By the way, i cant open the pictures that you posted. Wanted to see the dead turtle.




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QUOTE(EuJax @ Oct 2 2006, 10:30 PM)
People, i am not sure of the name of the shop in TTDI but if you come from 1U side, after the traffic lights at the cross road, go straight till you come to another traffic light, turn left. Follow the road as it curves to right (at this time, there are row of shophouses on your right) and all the way till you see shop houses on your left,turn left and its in the middle of those shops. I will go there tomorrow again and find out the name.

Sorry titan, i am not good in directing people. Hope you can find it.

Kamekame, they have a pair of juvenile Star tortoise but not for sale. Very nice Star tortoise i must say. They also have a Malayan Flatshell turtle but not for sale either.

Uzairi, i am interested in those Black Breasted Leaf turtles but i'd like to see the actual turtle, possible to arrange? PM me please. Thank you very much.
By the way, i cant open the pictures that you posted. Wanted to see the dead turtle.
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Uzairi, finally can view the pictures you posted. The dead one is a Malayan Flatshell turtle, Notochelys Platynota. Am sure you know it. Hey why the rest all plastron shots only? Give us some shots of the whole turtle buddy smile.gif Cheers.



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Yeah, i supposed they are Malayan Flatshell turtle but it looks a bit different from the pic i saw and i never see it myself so not sure. Now im sure about it. LOL. I planning to get a live ones for myself, but it seems that they are quite rare eh ?
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very nice turtle collection... i saw alot of malayan box in the blue tank wanted to take picture too! hahaaa!!

nice uzairi... u really gotto make a gathering at ur home d... we do potluck lar... hehe...

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ekiddie

Yeah, u noticed the malayan boxie eh ? That's what i can get before the battery died. Later when im back at home again i'll take more pictures including my snappers. I changed the tank for him and it looks like he's recovering. I wonder why, maybe the tank was toxicated maybe.

Eujax

Any news on how i can get the Malayan Flatshell ?
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O_O!

Uz: You're like a freaking zoo owner la! So many types of turtles wan...
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QUOTE(EuJax @ Oct 2 2006, 05:59 PM)
sayasebuk, thanks for sharing your experience with the vet. Btw, how did you confirm your Malayan Box turtle a male? The vet said so? smile.gif Anyway glad your turtles are all doing fine.
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because it's platron was a little bit curved. at first it wasnt that obvious, but after looking from sideways, then only confirm biggrin.gif

QUOTE(uzairi @ Oct 2 2006, 10:10 PM)
Ok now, for anyone who wanted to see my collection's SCL here's some that i managed to get when im at home yesterday.

Male Malayan Box Turtle :-
user posted image

Asian Giant Pond Turtle :-
Male
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Female
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Spiny Hill Turtle :-
Male
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QUOTE(EuJax @ Oct 2 2006, 11:15 PM)
Uzairi, finally can view the pictures you posted. The dead one is a Malayan Flatshell turtle, Notochelys Platynota. Am sure you know it. Hey why the rest all plastron shots only? Give us some shots of the whole turtle buddy smile.gif Cheers.
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yeah, give us picturse of the whole body. better still, take pictures of them altogether (macam family photo gitu) thumbup.gif

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QUOTE(ekiddie @ Oct 3 2006, 07:20 AM)
very nice turtle collection... i saw alot of malayan box in the blue tank wanted to take picture too! hahaaa!!

nice uzairi... u really gotto make a gathering at ur home d... we do potluck lar... hehe...

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QUOTE(uzairi @ Oct 3 2006, 08:20 AM)
ekiddie

Yeah, u noticed the malayan boxie eh ? That's what i can get before the battery died. Later when im back at home again i'll take more pictures including my snappers. I changed the tank for him and it looks like he's recovering. I wonder why, maybe the tank was toxicated maybe.

Eujax

Any news on how i can get the Malayan Flatshell ?
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QUOTE(titansulcata @ Oct 2 2006, 10:42 PM)
ok, thanks. I roughly know where u are referring

i also can't see the photos
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QUOTE(meiteoh @ Oct 3 2006, 08:26 AM)
O_O!

Uz: You're like a freaking zoo owner la! So many types of turtles wan...
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yeah, give us picturse of the whole body. better still, take pictures of them altogether (macam family photo gitu) thumbup.gif
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haha just noticed the other malayan box turtles im the background. wanting to take part in the picture  biggrin.gif
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Hehe, cannot take all in 1 shot. Later all of them running here and there. Summore later my ally looks happy to see his lunch running here and there. I can only take pictures of them species by species. How about that ? I think i have the pic but my sis deleted from her digicam coz her ms is only 32mb. Dunno where the 128mb ones gone edi. doh.gif This week not coming back, so maybe after raya can ? Im going back for semester break. Later maybe we can do a chelonian gathering. How about that ? brows.gif
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QUOTE(uzairi @ Oct 3 2006, 09:45 AM)
Hehe, cannot take all in 1 shot. Later all of them running here and there. Summore later my ally looks happy to see his lunch running here and there. I can only take pictures of them species by species. How about that ?
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I think Tortue is a female. :S Dunno if the plastron is curved oso.
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Titan, glad you find it but anyway here is some details of the TTDI fish shop i was saying....

TIC-Y Aquarium & Pet Shop
21, Lorong Rahim Kajai 13
Taman Tun Dr Ismail
60000 KL.

tel : 03-77106346


Anyway ekiddie, the Alligator Snapper they have there is selling at RM500. Not sure if it is the market price, maybe you check it out first. Good luck.

Kamekame, hope the address helps you to find the shop.

Uzairi, am not sure myself where to get more Flatshells but will inform you once i come accross any. Cheers.




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Thanks for the add eujax! Wow..rm500 is a lot! But that Ally snapper is one very nice and unique turtle though. ekiddie, dont want your musk turtle already arr? wink.gif tongue.gif Wahh they have a Malayan Flatshell as well? drool.gif Havent seen it before...must try to look for that shop..

Uzairi, thanks for the photos!! Hebat laa you got so many of them notworthy.gif So your friend selling the Black breasted turtle? How big is it? Got picture kah other then the sample one you posted? Thanks bro.



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QUOTE(UPM_Parasite @ Oct 3 2006, 01:38 PM)
Yo long times no c, guy did u miss me???  wub.gif

Now feel so sad..... both of my star have been bite my dog (that damm ass dog)  mad.gif . now they cedera parah,  cry.gif both can see the organ, 1 lagi teruk, the organ spoil out  cry.gif ...... they still dont die yet but will die after some times. what should i do???  icon_question.gif
This i upload some of the pic. so sad when saw them. i feel wan end their live now dont wan give them feel any pain.  sweat.gif
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shocking.gif haa got attacked? ur star still juvenile, the shell not strong enough. how did the dog manage to lay his teeth on them? better bring to vet for advice
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How come we don't have our own board? Everybody simply hantam here damn messy la... rclxub.gif
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Holy cow~! shocking.gif
So kesian man...feel real sorry for you dude... cry.gif
Sorry ar...a bit blur...this post was meant for UPM_Parasite's injured Stars...

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QUOTE(UPM_Parasite @ Oct 3 2006, 01:59 PM)
I put them under sunlight for basking. that times i close all the gates, mana tahu that damm ass dog jump into my house from gates sebelah  vmad.gif (that times i play games, i dont see it).  cry.gif
  Vet?? my place only got 1 vet (UPM Vet) but they only take care dog and cat only. so what should i do now????  cry.gif
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very sad to hear that. are they eating?

I'm also very scared of cats and crows, whenever i sun bath them. Even inside home, also have to be careful of rats

better be careful than sorry
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ok. I've found the hatchling ally snapper at

88 aquirium pju branch

they only have one left. $160. It's located at the cashier counter downstairs

if want better be quick. Condition looks good
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UPM: Would suggest you speak to your neighbour about his dog's behaviour after you're done tending to your sulcatas.

It means the dog is not disciplined - today it may be someone's pet, another day it can be someone's kid - and usually that's the owner's fault. Tortoise still = money, tell your neighbour that if s/he is tidak apa about the whole thing.

In the meantime, take your tortoise to the vet and next time, don't sunbath them without supervision.
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lot's of scouting work done today. 4 so far

2nd)
another place with 4 hatchling ally selling at $160 is:
irene aquirium
8-10, jalan 21/22 sea park
03-78748143

they have quite a lot other species too, mainly hatchling like star, leopard, razorback, and few unknown turtle species to me. It's scattered around, so walk around in the shop to spot them

one thing i don't like for his tortoise, he is using cat urine thing as tortoise bedding. It's dusty and sticky

3rd)
only for display, they have beautiful tortoise. 2xLeopard, 1xstar, 3xradiata and 1xsulcata

his sulcata is much bigger than mine, super active. Very nice.

He said he often have tortoise, ask me to check back often

yee fatt aquirium
7, jalan 20/16, paramount garden
03-78757462

4th)
pet family not much change

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