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post Sep 18 2006, 12:11 PM

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CONGRATS!!! so fast page 9!!! hahaha
more TTT !!!!
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post Sep 18 2006, 12:51 PM

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QUOTE(sayasebuk @ Sep 18 2006, 09:35 AM)
So this means the uvb rays CAN penetrate water la?
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"Reflective surfaces such as water and newly fallen snow increase UV levels. UV rays can penetrate water. UVA is not blocked by glass, while UVB is blocked. Air pollution can also reduce UV levels."

Reference:- http://ohioline.osu.edu/cd-fact/0199.html
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post Sep 21 2006, 11:06 AM

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QUOTE(titansulcata @ Sep 19 2006, 10:22 AM)
i was browsing another forum and found this...
http://invisionfree.com/forums/Happy_Turtl...showtopic=11346

this turtle gheng... one year only... the turtle grow so much bigger

note: same cup
QUOTE(uzairi @ Sep 19 2006, 12:05 PM)
This is because the RES is given too much pellets. If u feed them with vege it wont grow that fast. Mind u if they grow that fast, they will die faster than a RES that grows normally.
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RES normal growth would reach 4 inch SCL in 1 year

like uzairi said, pellets contain imbalance diet and its not good for TTT, feed them once in a while, too much protein causes overgrowth..

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post Oct 13 2006, 04:55 PM

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QUOTE(meiteoh @ Oct 12 2006, 03:37 PM)
Uz: I think my Tortue is getting fat la. From the front he looks like he's going to outgrow his shell anytime soon! laugh.gif

(Btw, my water is a bit cloudy/hazy. Just tukar air semalam so I can't understand it. Will it be bad for Tortue?)

Btw, here are some pics of Tortue (and how his schutes look like) - this was taken a few weeks back by my colleague before I bought the UVB bulb.

Can you see the depression/dents in the schutes?
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- judging from the photo, most probably your Tortue suffering soft shell, although its hard to tell just from the look in photos

Soft Shell

cause by:
insufficient calcium intake

Calcium intake also affect by the amount of vitamin D, vitamin D helps TTT absorb calcium.

where to get vitamin D?
- UVA/UVB (light bulb / sunlight), refer first post for more info


btw, nice pic there, its really hard to see such a young turtle basking...

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post Oct 27 2006, 01:34 PM

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QUOTE(meiteoh @ Oct 27 2006, 12:00 PM)
Hope everyone had a good holiday! I bought Tortue home to five days of glorious sunshine...but it doesn't look like his minor soft shell problem is improving at all. I've been feeding him Nutrafin Basix and the UVB lamp is turned on 10 hours a day.

Right now, it's spread to another shute and the other shutes look sunken. sad.gif HOW LA????
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please post recent photo for further confirmation...

is it just soft and not deformed or changes in colour?

btw, best bask under sunlight, for your case at least 1 hour everyday... feed greens with high vitamin D...

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post Oct 27 2006, 01:50 PM

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QUOTE(ekiddie @ Oct 23 2006, 10:48 PM)
guys... i bot a nutrafin basix turtle pellets... as i read de ingredients... it's different than de other brand of turtle pellets... wonder wat other brand's ingredient do have ha?

maybe it's a good info for others... plz do write down de turtle pellet's ingredients of de brands tat u haf... appreciate inputs...

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nutrafin basix floating turtle pellets:
fish meal, soy flour, wheat flour, oat flour, shrimp meal, yeast, kelp meal, fish liver meal.

crude protein min - 34.0%
crude fat min - 4.0%
crude fiber max - 2.5%
moisture max - 10.0%
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Aquadene turtle pellets:
fish meal, yeast, wheat germ meal, soya meal, wheat flour, varieties of vitamins and minerals. Add on natural spirulina , krill.

crude protein min - 35.0%
crude fat min - 8%
crude fiber max - 5%
crude ash max - 10%
moisture max - 10%

how bout sanyu? i've throw my sanyu bottle... can't get de ingredients d... anyone care to input?

need to look for other brands tat are on shelfs of our local market... sanyu, reptomin, aquadene, nutrafin, wat else is around ha?

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pellets best not feed to your TTT frequently...
reason: contains high protein, can cause overgrowth -> shorten life span, and pellets are not balance in diet,

more greens should be fed, refer the vege list in uzairi's post, look for high vitamin D, avarage vitamin A (too much vit A cause 'exhaution' - tiring), low goitrogen...
eg: kale, dandelion greens, collard, aquatic plant, kangkung
live food like guppies or feeder fish can be fed but not always (snappy excluded...)
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post Oct 27 2006, 06:00 PM

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QUOTE(meiteoh @ Oct 27 2006, 03:18 PM)
It is slowly turning white. :S And no can do, Tortue is at the office...that's why I have a UVB lamp.
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if white you say, then most probably is fungus infection, couldn't be sure without photo though,

if really fungus infection on shell, keep your turt dry most of the time, yes.. DRY, leave only an hour or so for feeding and for your turt to drink... the other 23 hour, dry....
apply bethadine on the white spot...
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post Oct 31 2006, 11:38 AM

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QUOTE(meiteoh @ Oct 31 2006, 09:48 AM)
OOOOO...I am pleased to inform you folks that Tortue's fungus is slowly receeding (the one shute that was covered entirely in white is now 1/3 green!). Will take a pic tomorrow.
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So glad to hear that tortue's recovering, i forgot to mention about the salt soaking method, but you've found it anyway, good one wink.gif

btw, i see uzairi has answer you with the bethadine question... bethadine is actually, we call it "yellow water medicine", ppl use to prevent infection on cuts or small injuries...
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post Nov 2 2006, 10:10 AM

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QUOTE(sayasebuk @ Nov 2 2006, 09:30 AM)
i wonder how long is the maximum duration for a daily 23 drydock? is one week already too stressful for the turtle?
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daily 23 drydock? oh you mean 23 hours dry for turtle?

23 drydock usually for treating turtles with serious fungus problem, with proper medicine and care, turtle will usually be quite ok within 1 week... and yes, turtle are really stressful during this treatment, but its require for its own good...

slight fungus problem can be cured using salt water soaking method...
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post Nov 3 2006, 01:10 PM

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QUOTE(uzairi @ Nov 2 2006, 10:48 AM)
Nice price, but now dunno where to get the money then.  laugh.gif  laugh.gif
For shell rot problems, i usually use sea cucumber oil (Minyak Gamat) to treat them. Firstly i drydock them for 1 day and the next day i use dettol to clean the infected place, let it dry and then put a little sea cucumber oil. It works for me.  smile.gif
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QUOTE(uzairi @ Nov 2 2006, 10:09 PM)
Dettol and betahadine/iodine have almost the same antiseptic functions so u can use either one. As for the sea cucumber(gamat) i experimented it myself and i get positive results. The wounds and the rotten shell stopped and curing, so i think its a good solution too since we can get plentiful supply of them here in malaysia. But remember not to put excessive sea cucumber at one place, they are still oil and might danger the turtles itself.
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Wow, great guide and tips!! must put in 1st post, prbably an illness and treatment section, this would probably give our forum members a great help!! notworthy.gif

QUOTE(sayasebuk @ Nov 3 2006, 09:35 AM)
minyak gamat = miracle cure
after 1 day of drydock, i applied dettol, wait to dry and then put some gamat yesteryday. this morning i was shocked to find the infected areas 80% healed (at least visually). this morning i applied again. cant wait to see the results this evening.

however, im still worried about the infected areas at the plastron since they have no access to the uvb rays
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Glad to hear your turtle getting better. rclxms.gif
how come no access to uv lights? how about daily sun bathing?

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post Nov 3 2006, 06:34 PM

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QUOTE(sayasebuk @ Nov 3 2006, 02:09 PM)
what i meant was, the carapace can heal because can benefit from the uvb rays from above, but how can the plastron benefit since its on the bottom, facing down..
err paham kee  rclxub.gif
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fear not,

Purpose of basking:-
- The main purpose of basking a TTT or reptiles is to provide them with Vitamin D, since the skin and carapace of TTT filter out normal light spectrum, only UVA and UVB able to penetrate it while concerning density of UV ray (gamma ray can penetrate too, but also cause cancer)

Purpose of providing Vitamin D:
- Vitamin D act like a catalyst, helping TTT absorb calcium way more efficiently, where calcium is the main mineral for bone and shell building as well ass keep it in good condition.

In your case, even though UV ray might not directly face to the plastron of TTT, the Vitamin D still able to be supplied throughout the whole body...
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post Nov 8 2006, 02:18 PM

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welcome LEVIATHAN,

RES, ahhh, thats what i know only, other turtles i can't help but RES i might abl to help out a bit...

I'll go briefly,


Habitat, Oh how big the aquarium should i get for my RES...
For the first year of RES, its rapid growth is a real concern. Normally would grow till 4 in of SCL in first year, thus a bigger tank is recommended.Small habitat may stun the growth of RES and causes pyramid condition...

Smallest tank recommended would be 3 ft x 2 ft with 2/3 of the tank filled with water. Having a bigger tank also gives your RES better space for exercise, more execise good for digestion and mainly, health...

Unlike fishes, turtle have long term memory as they recognize some place that they have been to. Fishes however, might lost the memory and think that they have gone to a new environment where actually they just swim around the tank for once...

RES habitat is better to have a place for them to bask, a drydock... next, we'll go for sunshine... cool.gif


Sun... Light... Oh My Vitamin...
Sunlight / UV bulb ---> Generate UV ray ---> UV ray penetrate skin and shell ---> Provide Vitamin D
Vitamin D ----> act as catalyst for calcium absorbtion
Calcium ---> for Bone and shell growth + building + keep in good condition

The flow above shold be able to understand easily.

Natural sunlight is always better than UV bulb's as its intensity of 1 hour UV ray can easily surpass 10 hours of UV Bulb's...


Food... I'm hungry!! gimme more... plsss...
Food,

Less of:
- protein (not totally 0)
- goitrogens

More of:
- calcium
- balance calcium : potassium ratio
- vitamin A (not too many, may cause lethargic)
- vitamin D

Most animals are sensitive to timing, RES too...
Its best to feed RES in the daytime, as thier organ digest the food in the daytime where they have their exercise... its not good to feed them before bed time...


Special medication by Uzairi for treating minor cuts and fungus infection:
1. drydock your TTT for an hour
2. Use dettol on infected places
3. apply Minyak Gamat (Sea Cucumber oil) on the cuts or fungus...
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post Dec 7 2006, 05:48 PM

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QUOTE(funkychips @ Dec 1 2006, 07:43 PM)
Here's the old dude in Aquaria KLCC at the flooded forest section. He seems to be gigantic....but I think the water depth is playing optical tricks to the eye...I think he might be a Pelochelys bibroni
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asked about this turtle when i was at Aquaria last time, a guy worked there told me that it was almost being served on dishes when a guy came by and bought it off... Aquaria then knows about this and got it from this guy, and transfer it to KLCC... there goes the story of this turtle, really lucky!! rclxms.gif rclxms.gif

i'm so glad that they guy did what's right to do!! Hats off to that anonymous guy... notworthy.gif notworthy.gif
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post Jan 8 2007, 05:45 PM

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jaredx, now the aqua pet shop starting on with exotic pets too, you can try to look for these shops at johor... smile.gif
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post May 28 2007, 12:45 PM

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hello all,
i'm looking for a 3ft. - 4ft. long tank, anybody have nice deal or know where to get it?
need not fancy tank, just a simple tank will do...
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post Jun 28 2007, 05:27 PM

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Some old news

http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=...6515&sec=nation
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post Dec 13 2007, 01:20 PM

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hello i'm back

TTT running well it seems... hehe

my turtle having some fungus infection on the left foreleg, sigh~~
hope can get well soon...

nice TTT u all have there biggrin.gif

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post Jan 6 2008, 04:02 PM

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Does anybody know a good reptile (turtle) vet around KL or Klang Valley?

Thanx in advance.

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post Jan 7 2008, 05:21 PM

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QUOTE(uzairi @ Jan 6 2008, 10:19 PM)
Dr Yeoh at Taman Megah, PJ.
Thanx a lot!!! notworthy.gif

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