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post Sep 24 2014, 07:58 PM, updated 4y ago

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"This day I have perfected for you your religion and completed My favor upon you and have approved for you Islam as religion"
Quran 5:3


Assalamualaikum, peace be upon you biggrin.gif

this thread here shall be platform for my fellow brethren to discuss stuff blush.gif flex.gif

ajak lah kamu kepada kebaikan, dan cegahlah kemungkaran


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post Sep 24 2014, 10:08 PM

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post Sep 24 2014, 11:21 PM

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post Sep 25 2014, 12:37 PM

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Say: O My servants who have transgressed against their own souls, despair not of the mercy of Allah. Indeed, Allah forgives all sins. Truly, He is Most Forgiving, Most Merciful. (Surah az-Zumar 39:53)
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post Sep 25 2014, 12:41 PM

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just sharing one of the best reminders.

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nice one parking dulu kat sini
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post Sep 25 2014, 04:13 PM

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post Sep 25 2014, 04:28 PM

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post Sep 25 2014, 05:25 PM

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right on! ok i hav a question.. who is your favorite islamic scholar?

Mine would be: Nouman Ali Khan - Impressive knowledge in Al-Quran linguisticallylah.. check it out yourself in youtube...

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post Sep 25 2014, 05:44 PM

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QUOTE(StArk @ Sep 25 2014, 05:25 PM)
right on! ok i hav a question.. who is your favorite islamic scholar?

Mine would be: Nouman Ali Khan - Impressive knowledge in Al-Quran linguisticallylah.. check it out yourself in youtube...
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Hamza yusuf

This a real scholar, he could quote hadiths, Al Quran and at the same time, jefferson and martin luther king


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post Sep 26 2014, 12:42 AM

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warriors of /k/aliban ! assemble !
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QUOTE(seiferalmercy @ Sep 25 2014, 05:44 PM)
Hamza yusuf

This a real scholar, he could quote hadiths, Al Quran and at the same time, jefferson and martin luther king
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mine would be his teacher
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post Sep 26 2014, 12:49 PM

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"And when My slaves ask you (O Mohammed) concerning Me then (answer them), I am indeed near (to them by my knowledge) I respond to the invocations of the supplicant when he calls on me (without any mediator or intercessor) So let them obey Me and believe in Me, so that they may be led to the right path.”  (Qur'an 2:186)


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post Sep 26 2014, 03:11 PM

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ZIKIR-ZIKIR SELEPAS SOLAT:
Hadis Satu:
Tsauban r.a. berkata, Rasulullah s.a.w. apabila selesai bersolat, baginda beristighfar tiga kali, kemudian menyebut:
(Maksudnya: Ya Allah, Engkaulah yang memiliki Kesejahteraan, dan daripada-Mu asalnya kesejahteraan itu, segala keberkatan adalah milik Engkau Ya Allah, yang mempunyai kebesaran dan kemuliaan."
al-Walid kemudiannya bertanya kepada al-Auzai, bagaimana cara beristighfar yang dimaksudkan? al-Auzai menjawab:
(dengan mengucapkan): Astaghfirullah (3 kali) - (Maksudnya: aku mohon ampun kepada Allah). (Sahih Muslim, Hadis No.: 591, Hadis Riwayat Ahmad, Hadis No.: 26021 )
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Alhamdullilah, Syabas TS!

To those who thinks it's too late to repent or loss their way... please watch this conversation between Syaitan and Allah S.W.T


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post Sep 27 2014, 08:37 PM

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Parking..

Hope to be able to share and discuss thing maturely here smile.gif
No condemning others as sometimes I notice on certain blog/forum.

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“Dan janganlah kamu memaki sembahan-sembahan yang mereka sembah selain Allah, karena mereka nanti akan memaki Allah dengan melampaui batas tanpa pengetahuan.”(Al-An’am: 108

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post Sep 27 2014, 11:01 PM

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{Does mankind think that they will be left to say, "We believe", and that they will not be tested?} (Quran 29:2)
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QUOTE(celicaizpower @ Sep 26 2014, 03:23 PM)
Alhamdullilah, Syabas TS!

To those who thinks it's too late to repent or loss their way... please watch this conversation between Syaitan and Allah S.W.T


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I've heard that the most dangerous distraction satan does is when death is very near. Satan will distract us, so we forget to say syahadah. May Allah protect us.......
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Assalamualaikum wbt
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QUOTE(Frozen_Sun @ Sep 28 2014, 01:17 AM)
I've heard that the most dangerous distraction satan does is when death is very near. Satan will distract us, so we forget to say syahadah. May Allah protect us.......
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erm, I am not sure about that.

What is for certain is our Ibadat will be the one that will help us to answer, because what seperates us from non believers is when the Angels comes to question us in our graves later.
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QUOTE(Reckoning @ Sep 29 2014, 08:53 AM)
Assalamualaikum wbt
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Wa'alaikum mus salam brother.
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Anyone can recommend a good quran translation book? I want one that tells me the story behind of each verse. A simple one, not too lengthy.
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QUOTE(faiz293 @ Sep 29 2014, 10:11 AM)
Anyone can recommend a good quran translation book? I want one that tells me the story behind of each verse. A simple one, not too lengthy.
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Try the Al-Quran in Android. Is is easiest to understand and comes with translation from different schools of thought as reference and easy understanding.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?...idedways.iQuran
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10 Jenis Syaitan

Iblis - laknatullah, Syaitan Utama & musuh kepada semua manusia.

Zalituun (anak iblis) – Pakar dalam hal menggoda manusia ke arah sifat membazir dan bakhil.

Wathiin – Pakar dalam mendorong manusia berpra-sangka buruk dan putus asa terhadap Allah.

A’awan – Pakar yang ditugaskan khas dalam menggoda raja / pemimpin besar supaya bersikap sombong dan takbur serta zalim terhadap rakyatnya.

Haffaf – Pakar dalam menggoda manusia meminum arak / khamr dan benda memabukkan.

Murrah – Pakar dalam melalaikan manusia dari mengingati Allah dengan muzik, hiburan, gossip dan segala benda yang melalaikan.

Masuud – Pakar dalam membinasakan manusia melalui kata2 fitnah, gosip, umpatan dan apa sahaja dosa yg muncul dari lidah dan mulut.

Daasim – Pakar dalam merosakkan rumah tangga manusia dan menggoda ke arah zina dan maksiat.

Walahaan – Menimbulkan rasa was-was dalam diri manusia khususnya ketika berwuduk dan solat dan menjejaskan ibadat-ibadat kita yg lain.

Lakhuus – Pakar dalam menyesatkan akidah manusia dengan menyembah api, batu berhala, bintang dan lain2.

Ketahuilah siapa mereka ini, dan ketahuilah bila dan bagaimana mereka menghasut kamu dan InsyaAllah kamu dapat kalahkan mereka dengan Iman mu kepada Allah S.W.T


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post Sep 29 2014, 11:59 AM

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And let not those of virtue among you and wealth swear not to give [aid] to their relatives and the needy and the emigrants for the cause of Allah , and let them pardon and overlook. Would you not like that Allah should forgive you? And Allah is Forgiving and Merciful

An-Nur 24:22


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post Sep 29 2014, 06:40 PM

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Salam forumer

Kadang2 dlm kita nak mengejar amalan, meningkat amalan atau berubah menjadi baik, kita berasa hairan kenapalah aku Tak ubah2, kenapalah Bila aku buat baik kejap je....tp kmdn leka. Kenapalah.... Krnapalah....Tak ubah.

Jawapannya kadang2 mmg kita mengejar kebaikan, kita mahu berubah, tp kita lupa meninggalkan dosa pun mesti seiring dgn berbuat baik dan buat perkara sunat. Sebab dosa menyebabkan tidak dpt hidayah, hilang nikmat ibadat....Malah Makin kuat beribadat Makin jemu ibadat.

So tahulah Korang kenapa Korang selalui fail nak berubah. So kalau nak berubah, dosa pun turut kena tinggalkan

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post Sep 30 2014, 12:53 AM

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QUOTE(faiz293 @ Sep 29 2014, 10:11 AM)
Anyone can recommend a good quran translation book? I want one that tells me the story behind of each verse. A simple one, not too lengthy.
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that one you try to look for AZBABUN NUZUL .
there one big book that my uncle bought complete with tafseer and the azbab.
best bet in KL minerva jalan TAR.
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we should have our own forum then smile.gif
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we should have our own forum then smile.gif
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why is that ?
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naa...because it is more good if we have our own categories..i silap tulis..

muslim education or talk..so it is good to compile from one topic to another..
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post Sep 30 2014, 03:28 AM

saoirse ronan :3
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Assalamualaikum wbt,

Sekadar melontarkan persoalan di pagi hari. Adakah terdapat nya kehidupan di muka bumi selain jin sebelom kedatangan nabi adam?
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Assalamualaikum brothers.

I've bookmarked this thread for future.

Anyway seiferalmercy tak ada apa2 guideline ke untuk thread ni?
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QUOTE(fnm83 @ Sep 30 2014, 09:08 AM)
Assalamualaikum wbt,

Sekadar melontarkan persoalan di pagi hari. Adakah terdapat nya kehidupan di muka bumi selain jin sebelom kedatangan nabi adam?
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Waalaikumussalam.

Lecturer aku dulu pernah cakap, kemungkinan ada...tapi aku dah tak ingat apa dalil yang dia bagi. Huhu
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post Sep 30 2014, 09:42 AM

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QUOTE(GoldenHorn @ Sep 30 2014, 09:28 AM)
Assalamualaikum brothers.

I've bookmarked this thread for future.

Anyway seiferalmercy tak ada apa2 guideline ke untuk thread ni?
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Salam, guideline dia nanti I tambah

guideline simple
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post Sep 30 2014, 12:08 PM

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QUOTE(fnm83 @ Sep 30 2014, 09:08 AM)
Assalamualaikum wbt,

Sekadar melontarkan persoalan di pagi hari. Adakah terdapat nya kehidupan di muka bumi selain jin sebelom kedatangan nabi adam?
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“Sesungguhnya Aku hendak menjadikan seorang khalifah dimuka bumi. Mereka(Malaikat) berkata,”Mengapa Engkau hendak menjadikan di bumi itu orang yang akan membuat kerosakan padanya dan menumpahkan darah, padahal kami sentiasa bertasbih dengan memuji Engkau dan mensucikan Engkau?Tuhamnu berfirman: Sesungguhnya Aku mengetahui apa yang tidak kamu ketahui”(Al-Baqarah:30)


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Pagi yang berbaki ni..elok kalau kita sembahyang dhuha..tggalkan sekejap laptop dan monitor kita..semayang dhuha smile.gif selagi belum masuk zuhur biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(abemin @ Sep 30 2014, 12:08 PM)
“Sesungguhnya Aku hendak menjadikan seorang khalifah dimuka bumi. Mereka(Malaikat) berkata,”Mengapa Engkau hendak menjadikan di bumi itu orang yang akan membuat kerosakan padanya dan menumpahkan darah, padahal kami sentiasa bertasbih dengan memuji Engkau dan mensucikan Engkau?Tuhamnu berfirman: Sesungguhnya Aku mengetahui apa yang tidak kamu ketahui”(Al-Baqarah:30)
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terima kasih tuan, saya juga ada terbaca berkenaan ayat ini yang mana pertanyaan ini dilontarkan oleh Malaikat sebelom penciptaan Nabi Adam as.
Adakah orang yang dimaksudkan ini ialah manusia seperti kita atau makhluk lain?

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Lusa den p wukuf..doakan yang terbaik yok
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QUOTE(piap piap @ Sep 30 2014, 08:26 PM)
Lusa den p wukuf..doakan yang terbaik yok
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Semoga haji mabrur, amin
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assalamualaikum ya akhi
camana nak tetap dlm beribadat
kdg insap kjp
lps tu alpa sudah cry.gif
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QUOTE(cikalakacikaci @ Oct 1 2014, 12:07 AM)
assalamualaikum ya akhi
camana nak tetap dlm beribadat
kdg insap kjp
lps tu alpa sudah cry.gif
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waalaikumsalam

cuba gugle islam punishment in hell

baca banyak, lama2 jadi takut, lepas tu terus insaf macam2 sweat.gif sweat.gif sweat.gif

lepas tu ibadat automatik akan improve dan istiqamah


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Salam TS,
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QUOTE(cikalakacikaci @ Oct 1 2014, 12:07 AM)
assalamualaikum ya akhi
camana nak tetap dlm beribadat
kdg insap kjp
lps tu alpa sudah cry.gif
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gantikan amal buruk dgn amal baik.
atau lepas buat jahat terus buat 1 benda yang baik.
jangan pandang rendah dgn amal2 baik yg nampak kecik
contoh ada sampah tepi jalan , pungut dan buang dalam tong sampah


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QUOTE(seiferalmercy @ Sep 27 2014, 11:01 PM)
{Does mankind think that they will be left to say, "We believe", and that they will not be tested?} (Quran 29:2)
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soo lets us remain ourself to steadfast when tests from Allah come..
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Salam sume.. lupe nk remain.

"the messenger of Allah said "There are no days in which good deeds are more beloved to Allah then these 10 days (first 10 days) of dzul hijjah, the sahabah then said "not even the jihad for the sake of Allah?" The messenger answered "not even jihad unless a man goes out with him self and his wealth and comes back with neither" - Al-Bukhari.

Soo lets try our best in doing good deeds.. kite bole puase, solat sunat lebih skit..

you guys can check youtube for the lecture on dzul hijjah.. tinggal 4 hari je lg


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Narrated by Abu Sa'id Al-Khudri: We, the companions of the Prophet said, "O Allah's Apostle! What is the bridge?' He said, "It is a slippery (bridge) on which there are clamps and (Hooks like) a thorny seed that is wide at one side and narrow at the other and has thorns with bent ends. Such a thorny seed is found in Najd and is called As-Sa'dan. Some of the believers will cross the bridge as quickly as the wink of an eye, some others as quick as lightning, a strong wind, fast horses or she-camels. So some will be safe without any harm; some will be safe after receiving some scratches, and some will fall down into Hell. The last person will cross by being dragged over the bridge." (Sahih Bukhari- Volume 9, Book 93, Number 532)
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QUOTE(StArk @ Oct 1 2014, 09:57 AM)
Salam sume.. lupe nk remain.

"the messenger of Allah said "There are no days in which good deeds are more beloved to Allah then these 10 days (first 10 days) of dzul hijjah, the sahabah then said "not even the jihad for the sake of Allah?" The messenger answered "not even jihad unless  a man goes out with him self and his wealth and comes back with neither" - Al-Bukhari.

Soo lets try our best in doing good deeds.. kite bole puase, solat sunat lebih skit..

you guys can check youtube for the lecture on dzul hijjah.. tinggal 4 hari je lg
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just to add brother

Good deeds is beyond the normal ibadah ,
a kind act to humans , animals or tree is also good deeds.
helping your mom on house chores is also good deeds.
giving debt to people is also good deeds
smile to people is also good deeds.
giving food to animals is good deeds
making small children laugh is also a good deeds
controlling our tongue than saying bad things on people/situation is also a good deeds.
its limitless i must. and never ever underestimate the power of those small good deeds.

we are muslim , were suppose to bring happiness & spread kindness in this world to believers and non-believers.
and that is why Rasullulah is called "rahmatan lil allamin"(a blessing to the universe).
the best da`wah is from your kind act , from that show the true islam.

i remember the story of this old jewish blind women being told to me in one of the lectures
rasullulah used to visit her each day and feed her without the women knowing its rasullulah
and while being feed by rasullulah she used to say her hatred towards islam and rasullulah himself
all the time and years gone by he remained silent and serve to this old lady untill his own passing.
after 2/3 days after HIS passing saidina umar when to this lady place to replace rasullulah since its a "sunnah" (a good deeds that rasullulah himself did) and feed the lady , and while his feeding her that lady asked
why havent you come for the pass 2/3 days and son your hand is much different plus the food is less chewable ( as rasullulah used to chew the food first as the old lady has only a couple of teeth left in her old frail body).
hearing this with huge sadness of the prophet passing and such great servitude that rasulullah did for this old jewish lady
saidina umar drop in tears and said im being "sent"(to follow the sunnah) by the one who have feed you all this years , he is the last messenger of ALLAH
and im only one of his companions forgive me as im incomparable to him.
hearing this the old jewish lady were in shocked and cried how could it be , he was so gentle , he treated me like his own mother
while all the time hearing what i had been saying my anger towards the last messenger and islam.
convinced by saidina umar that it was really rasullulah the old lady then said his syahadah.





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QUOTE(kucinganaz @ Oct 1 2014, 12:52 AM)
Salam TS,
Tahniah atas bebenang ini..
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post Oct 2 2014, 12:17 AM

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If still cannot, think of something totally cool and really really want
Pray everytime to ask for it.

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Copypasta dari Dr Fuad Latip :-


Bismillah hirRahmanir Rahim

*Artikel ini panjang. Namun ia sebuah praktikal agar solat yang dikatakan penuh nikmat benar-benar dirasai dan dikecapi.

Syariat = ilmu solat
Tariqat = mendirikan solat
Hakikat = ohhh… ini nikmatnya
Makrifat = menikmati nikmat sebuah pertemuan dengan Allah.

Solat itu memuji.
Solat itu memohon.
Solat itu berterima kasih/syukur.

Pujian, permohonan dan terima kasih itu datang dari hati. Lalu mengalir ke tubuh dan tubuh menjadi ringan dalam mendirikan solat.

Benar… sangat benar. Solat sangat berat kecuali bagi mereka yang khusyuk yang sentiasa menyedari Allah.

Allah satu-satunya Tuhan yang berhak dipuji. Satu-satunya Tuhan tempat pergantungan. Satu-satunya Tuhan untuk kita berterima kasih/syukur.

BAHKAN Allah satu-satunya yang layak menjadi Tuhan seluruh alam. Bukan hanya Tuhan kepada orang Islam. Tetapi Tuhan semuanya. Yang lain, apa jua pun hanyalah makhluk…. Fana.

PERSEDIAAN KHUSYUK
Saya masih banyak kekurangan. Apa yang saya lakukan sebelum masuk waktu solat, saya ambil masa dalam 1-15 minit untuk diam dari melakukan apa jua kerja.

1. Yang saya lakukan hanyalah berkomunikasi dengan Allah. Tidak memohon. Tetapi sekadar bercerita. Saya suka bercerita kepada Allah. Tentang kerja, tentang hidup, tentang keluarga, anak-anak. Tentang apa saja.

2. Kemudian setelah masuk waktu solat, saya bangun untuk mengambil wuduk dalam KESEDARAN bahawa saya sedang dalam perjalanan untuk bertemu denganNya secara formal.

Saya ingin memujiNya, saya ingin memohon (mengikut doa dalam solat) dan saya ingin berterima kasih pada Nya.

3. Sepanjang wuduk… saya SEDAR bahawa Yang ingin saya temu adalah Allah. Saya pastikan wuduk saya sempurna. Saya minta agar segala anggota wuduk saya dilindungi Allah dari melakukan kejahatan dan kemaksiatan.

4. Dalam perjalanan untuk memulakan solat saya tetap jaga kesedaran bahawa saya dalam persediaan jumpa Allah.

Saya bentang sejadah dan tetap kesedaran bahawa saya ingin bertemu Allah tidak saya lepaskan. Pengalaman peribadi, betapa bahagianya hati ini dalam kesedaran ini.

5. Ketika saya berdiri untuk mula takbir, saya istighfar dahulu. Memohon keampunan pada Allah seawal lagi agar pujian saya benar-benar datang dari hati yang bersih. Berulang-ulang saya istighfar.

6. Kemudian saya mengangkat Takbir dan saya menyedariNya. Saya memanggil Allah Yang Maha Besar, Yang saya rindui.

*Pastikan kenal Allah agar tidak nanti membandingkan Allah dengan alam untuk merasakan kebesaranNya. Ternyata andai kita membandingkanNya, kita syirik padaNya.

7. Saya tidak “membaca” Doa iftitah. Tetapi saya memuji Allah dalam Doa Iftitah. Mulut ini berkomunikasi dalam bahasa arab. Namun hati ini memahami apa yang diucapkan adalah….

“Ya Allah, Engkaulah Tuhan Yang Maha Besar sebesar-sebesarnya ya Allah. Ya Allah Segala puji bagiMu ya Allah sebanyak-banyaknya ya Allah. Ya Allah, Maha Suci Engkau di pagi dan petang ya Allah.”

“Ya Allah ku hadapkan wajahku kepadaMu Tuhan yang menjadikan langit dan bumi dengan benar-benar lurus dan berserah kepadaMu ya Allah. Ya Allah, aku ini bukan dari kalangan orang-orang yang musyrik ya Allah.”

“Ya Allah sesungguhnya ya Allah, solatku ya Allah, ibadahku ya Allah, hidupku ya Allah, matiku ya Allah adalah hanya untukMu ya Allah.”

“Ya Allah, tidak ada sekutu bagiMu ya Allah, dan aku diperintahkan untuk tidak menyukutukanMu ya Allah dan aku ini dari golongan orang yang berserah diri (muslim) ya Allah.”

Inilah kefahaman kita seeperti mana kita menyebut “i Love U” tapi dalam hati kita sangat faham bahawa “i Love u” itu adalah “aku mencintaimu”.

Ia sama dengan Doa iftitah. Sebuah komunikasi dengan Allah. Sebuah skrip yang ditetapkan Allah agar kita tahu bagaimana untuk berkomunikasi denganNya. Untuk memujiNya, untuk berjanji denganNya.

Bukan membaca tetapi berkomunikasi dengan Allah. Kita pasti asyik yakni khusyuk denganNya.

8. Kemudian, saya terus memujiNya dalam Al-Fatihah. Sebuah lagi skrip hadiah dari Allah untuk kita berkomunikasi denganNya. Kita berkomunikasi di dalam bahasa arab namun kita faham yang sedang kita komunikasikan dengan Allah adalah….

“Ya Allah, Aku berlindung kepadaMu dari kejahatan syaitan yang terkutuk ya Allah.”

“Ya Allah, Dengan namaMu ya Allah Tuhan Yang Maha Pemurah dan Penyayang ya Allah”.

“Ya Allah, Segala puji bagiMu Tuhan yang memelihara segala alam ya Allah. Engkaulah yang Maha Pemurah dan Maha Penyayang ya Allah. Engkaulah raja yang menguasai hari pembalasan ya Allah.

Ya Allah…. kepadaMu-lah kami sembah Ya Allah .. dan kepadaMu-lah kami mohon pertolongan ya Allah. (saya selalu tidak mampu menahan kesayuan tika saat ini. Saya sangat rindu padaNya hingga seluruh tubuh ini bergetar)

Tunjukilah kami jalan yang lurus ya Allah. Jalan mereka yang telah Engkau beri nikmat ya Allah, bukan jalan yang Engkau murkai dan bukan jalan yang sesat ya Allah.”

Hidup kita pasti setiap masa kita perlukan petunjuk dan kekuatan. Kita mohon agar Allah berikan jalan yang lurus. Jalan yang mana? Kita serahkan pada Allah. Namun kita mohon agar jalan itu adalah jalan mereka yang telah Allah beri nikmat, bukan jalan yang Allah murkai dan bukan jalan yang sesat.

ALLAHUKABAR indahnya solat. Ini baru selesai Al-Fatihah.

9. Kemudian kita baca surah yang mudah dan kita fahami.

10. Diamlah sejenak sebelum kita rukuk. Tuqmaninah sebentar. Sedarilah kita rukuk untuk hormat dan memuji Allah.

11. Lalu rukuklah. Namun diam dahulu. Rukunnya adalah rukuk bukan bacaan rukuk. Diamlah namun sedar dan berterima kasih pada Allah. Terima kasih yang datang dari hati ini.

Lalu ketika ini pujilah Allah dengan benar. Pujilah Allah dari hati. Bukan bacaan sekadar dari bibir semata-mata. Pujian dari bibir semata-mata adalah pujian yang menipu. Sanggupkan kita menipu pada Allah dan ia di dalam solat? Allahurabbi…. astaghfirullah.

” Ya Allah, Maha SuciMu Tuhan yang Maha Agung ya Allah.”

Selepas pujian pertama… diam lagi… rukuklah dengan benar disamping fizikal kita benar-benar rehat. Tulang-tulang kita kembali kepada tempatnya. Darah mengalir ke otak kerana kedudukan otak sama dengan jantung.

Pujilah lagi untuk seterusnya hingga 3 kali.

12. Bangunlah dengan perlahan, dengan hormat dalam setiap pergerakan solat. SEDARlah terus bahawa kita sedang bertemu dengan Allah. TUHAN.. bukan bos, bukan menteri, bukan kawan-kawan, bukan mak ayah….. tetapi Allah…. TUHAN yang menjadikan kita dan tempat kita kembali. Allah.. TUHAN yang menghidupkan kita yang sentiasa meliputi segala sesuatu. Allahuakbar.

Iktidal… diam sebentar (tuqmaninah) lalu nyatakan pada Allah….

“Ya Allah, untukMu segala pujian ya Allah.”

Andai semuanya milik Allah segala pujian, adakah pujian milikmu? adakah pujian milik kita? siapa kita yang sering ingin dipuji? siapa kita yang sering ingin mendabik dada dengan kerja kita? Siapa kita yang sering kecewa ketika orang lain tidak memuji kita? Siapa kita yang sentiasa mengejar pujian orang lain? Siapa kita?…. Astaghfirullah… astaghfirulllah.

13. Sujud….. Diamlah sebentar. Sedarlah Allah. Sedarlah ketika sujud ini, jasad ini kembali kepada asalnya yakni tanah. Kita tidak ada apa-apanya lagi. Segala pujian adalah milik Allah. Kita ini tiada apa-apanya. Kita mengharapkan redha Allah semata-mata.

Sujudlah… sedarlah Allah… lalu pujilah Allah….

“Ya Allah, Maha SuciMu Tuhan yang Maha Tinggi ya Allah”

Diamlah sebentar untuk pujian kedua dan ketiga agar benar-benar pujian itu dari hati kita dalam kesedaran padaNya.

14. Kemudian duduklah dengan penuh tunduk dan mengharap padaNya. Mohonlah satu persatu. Bukan membaca dengan laju…. tetapi mohonlah…mohonlah. Diri kita sangat memerlukan kasih sayang daripadaNya.

“Ya Allah, ampunilah aku ya Allah”

“Ya Allah, rahmatilah aku ya Allah”

“Ya Allah, cukupkanlah segala keperluanku ya Allah”

“Ya Allah, angkatlah darjatku ya Allah” (angkat darjat bukan naik jawatan, jadi kaya raya, jadi terkenal, sentiasa dipuji. Bukan..bukan. Angkat darjat adalah agar Allah melindungi maruah kita. Tidak mengaibkan kita. Andai Allah mengaibkan segala kejahatan dan kemaksiatan kita…. Allahurabbi… tidak tertahan untuk mampu terus hidup).

“Ya Allah, Murahkan rezekiku ya Allah”

“Ya Allah, bukakan pintu hatiku untuk hidayah/ petunjukMu ya Allah”

“Ya Allah, sihatkanlah aku ya Allah”

“Ya Allah, maafkanlah aku ya Allah.”

Andai ini dibaca dengan baik, Allahhurabbi…sujud seterusnya pasti akan lebih berserah kita padaNya.

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Jika ini dapat didirikan dengan baik, nikmatilah sendiri keindahan solat. Betapa nikmatnya solat dan nikmatnya solat kita tidak pernah sama sejak kita mendirikannya dulu hingga sekarang. Bahkan nikmat solat ini semakin meningkat dari satu waktu ke waktu yang lain.

Dulu saya tertanya-tanya bagaimana mereka yang dekat dengan Allah sentiasa menunggu-nunggu waktu solat.

Allahurabbi…. ketika menikmati nikmatnya solat… barulah kita faham mengapa solat itu sering ditunggu-tunggu.

Didoakan ini menjadi titik permulaan untuk kita benar-benar berusaha bersungguh-sungguh untuk khusyuk pada Allah. Jadikan ia sebuah azam lebih daripada yang lain.

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post Oct 2 2014, 03:18 PM

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post Oct 2 2014, 05:22 PM

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YEAY! A 1st! eh btw last time bukan ada tered cenggini dah ke dlm /k? not in serious k la.
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post Oct 2 2014, 07:54 PM

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Bagaimana nak pandai baca al-Quran dalam masa pendek? Aku masih baca tak lancar.
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QUOTE(Super Saiya @ Oct 2 2014, 07:54 PM)
Bagaimana nak pandai baca al-Quran dalam masa pendek? Aku masih baca tak lancar.
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actually, theres no shortcut

kena start dari iqra' dulu

tapi bagi orang cam kita, yang tak lancar baca quran, disamping belajar ngaji, elok kita baca tafsir sekali

tujuan ayat quran tu sebagai panduan untuk orang beriman

ada orang pandai mengaji, dok mengaji sampai tua, tapi dia tak faham apa yang dia baca, jadi rugilah
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QUOTE(seiferalmercy @ Oct 2 2014, 08:08 PM)
actually, theres no shortcut

kena start dari iqra' dulu

tapi bagi orang cam kita, yang tak lancar baca quran, disamping belajar ngaji, elok kita baca tafsir sekali

tujuan ayat quran tu sebagai panduan untuk orang beriman

ada orang pandai mengaji, dok mengaji sampai tua, tapi dia tak faham apa yang dia baca, jadi rugilah
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at least nak pandai juga baca sebab kebanyakan surah yang baca lancar menggunakan teknik menghafal.
I think few years ago I have read in newspaper there is a technic to katam Quran in 3 months for those who never know how to read Quran.
Wonder if this technic is still available and where to find.
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assalamualaikum semua :3


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QUOTE(nestlebliss @ Oct 2 2014, 09:32 PM)
assalamualaikum semua :3
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"Allah hath promised to Believers, men and women, gardens under which rivers flow, to dwell therein, and beautiful mansions in gardens of everlasting bliss. But the greatest bliss is the good pleasure of Allah. That is the supreme felicity" (9:72).
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aku sokong bebenang ini
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"Oh you who believe! Seek help with patient perseverance and prayer, for God is with those who patiently persevere." (2:153)
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Salam fellow brothers and sisters.

Just some info about Vlad The Impaler.

Have you watched the Dracula Untold movie? Just released yesterday.

Its a story about the real Dracula. Vlad The Impaler. Some parts of the movie is accurate like the thousands of impaled Turkish soldiers.

Vlad and his brother studied the Holy Quran or was forced to by the Turkish. While his brother converted to Islam he did not.

Vlad returned to his home country and ruled with absolute power and fear. He was cruel and sadistic.

In this movie Vlad was shown to be as a fearless, emotionless warrior turned good King loved by all and Muslims are the bad guys victimizing Vlad.


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post Oct 4 2014, 09:46 AM

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Kindness to Animals

It is forbidden in Islam to treat an animal cruelly, or to kill it except as needed for food. The Prophet Muhammad often chastised his Companions who mistreated animals, and spoke to them about the need for mercy and kindness. Here are several examples of hadith which instruct Muslims about how to treat animals.

Reward for mercy: It is related from Abu Umama that the Messenger of Allah, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, said, "Whoever is merciful even to a sparrow, Allah will be merciful to him on the Day of Judgment."

Animals are like humans: “A good deed done to an animal is like a good deed done to a human being, while an act of cruelty to an animal is as bad as cruelty to a human being."

Animals cannot speak up for themselves: It is related from Sahl ibn Al-Handhaliyya that the Messenger of Allah, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, once passed by a camel that was so emaciated that its back had almost reached its stomach. He said, "Fear Allah in these beasts who cannot speak." (Abu Dawud)

Mental cruelty also forbidden: It is related from AbdulRahman bin Abdullah that a group of Companions were once on a journey with the Prophet, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, and he left them for a while. During his absence, they saw a bird with its two young, and they took the young ones from the nest. The mother bird was circling above in the air, beating its wings in grief, when the Prophet came back. He said, "Who has hurt the feelings of this bird by taking its young? Return them to her." (Muslim)

Forgiveness of sins: It is related from Abu Hurayra, from the Prophet, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, that a prostitute once saw a dog on a very hot day going round and round a well, lolling its tongue because of its thirst. She drew some water for it using her shoe, and for this action all her sins were forgiven her. (Muslim)

Mistreatment is a sin: It is related from Jabir that the Messenger of Allah, once saw a donkey which had been branded on its face and he said, "May Allah curse the one who branded it." (Muslim)

Give rest to beasts of burden: It is related from Abu Hurayra that the Prophet, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, said, "Do not use the backs of your animals as chairs. Allah has made them subject to you, so that by them you can reach places that you would not otherwise be able to reach except with great fatigue." (Abu Dawud)


Hunting/Sport

In Islam, hunting for sport is prohibited. Muslims may only hunt as is needed to meet their requirements for food. This was common during the time of the Prophet Muhammad, and he condemned it at every opportunity:

It is narrated from Ibn Umar that the Prophet, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, cursed those who used any living thing as a target. (Muslim)
It is related from Ibn Abbas that the Messenger of Allah, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, forbade inciting animals to fight one another. (Abu Dawud and Tirmidhi)

It is related from Abu Al-Darda' that the Messenger of Allah, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, forbade eating mujaththama animals, that is, animals which have been tied up and shot with arrows. (Tirmidhi)

Slaughter for Food

Islamic dietary law allows Muslims to eat meat. Certain animals are not allowed to be used as food, and when slaughtering, several guidelines must be followed to minimize the animal's suffering. Muslims are to recognize that when slaughtering, one is taking a life only by the permission of Allah in order to meet the need for food.

If Islam gives even animals these kind of rights and tells us to be kind and Merciful to them what about how we need to act towards other human-beings.


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What does qurban (sacrificing an animal) mean? Why do Muslims sacrifice animals? What are the wisdoms behind it?

Qurban lexically means approaching. Thereupon, sacrificing an animal means to sacrifice an animal out of the goods that Allah gave in order to approach Him and attain his pleasure and consent.

Allah states the following in the Chapter al-Hajj: “It is not their meat nor their blood that reaches Allah: it is your piety that reaches Him.” (22/37). Accordingly, it is understood that the real aim of sacrificing an animal is to fulfill the order of Allah and show that one fears Allah. It means we can sacrifice even our most valuable things if Allah asks us. The aim is to show that we can even sacrifice our lives just like Hazrat Ibrahim (Abraham) who decided to sacrifice his son, Ismail (Ishmael). In a sense, qurban means we can get rid of the feeling of loving worldly possessions and sacrifice everything for the sake of Allah.

The real purpose of qurban is to attain Allah's consent and to wish to approach Him. A person who sacrifices an animal approaches Allah and attains His consent through it. Sacrifice is also an example of social assistance and solidarity. In general, the poor eat most of the meat of the animals that are sacrificed. As it is seen, the understanding of approaching God and helping the poor exist in the essence of this worship. No matter what the fiqh decree about it is, sacrifice has had an important place for centuries in our religious life as a kind of worship that is a symbol and sign of Islamic communities.

The religion of Islam aims to make the individual attain spiritual wisdom and human virtues; meanwhile, it introduces some unifying and integrating commands and practices for the community. This superior characteristic of Islam becomes more apparent in financial kinds of worship with social dimensions like zakah, hajj and sacrifice. These kinds of worship have existed since the first days of Islam without undergoing any change and intervention in their general principles and essence in all Islamic communities and have been transferred to new generations.

The Wisdoms of Sacrificing Animals

1- Qurban lexically means something through which one can approach Allah. As it is understood from the word sacrifice (qurban) is an opportunity to be close to Allah and to gain His consent. The following is stated in the Qur’an:

“To every people did We appoint rites (of sacrifice), that they might celebrate the name of Allah over the sustenance He gave them from animals (fit for food). But your God is One God, submit then your wills to Him (in Islam): and give you the good news to those who humble themselves [The Pilgrimage (Al-Hajj),34 (22:34)].” In that verse, it is expressed that Allah Almighty commanded that decree in order to remind His slaves that He is the owner of all animals and that He offered them to human beings as an indication of His mercy and grace. Man, can fall into heedlessness and forget in the course of time that the real owner of his possessions and wealth is Allah Almighty, who gave him all the possessions as a grace. Like Qarun, he may think that he obtained all of the things through his own work, knowledge and ability; and he may start to appropriate the Divine blessings for himself and assume that he has a power and might. He may feel conceited and go beyond the limit. So, the command of sacrifice reminds him that all the possessions and commodities, vineyards and orchards, wealth and money are the bounties of Allah Almighty who bestowed them on him and that Allah is the real owner. He informs man that he cannot have anything without His permission and will. Thus, man gives up arrogance and becomes humble. He starts to behave like a real slave and tries to give thanks to Allah. And that behavior becomes an opportunity to approach to Allah and gain Allah’s consent.

2- Allah does not need sacrifice, nor does he need all of the other worship performed by man. However, with the command of sacrifice, Allah tests His slaves, measures their devotion and their attention to that Divine decree and their closeness to Him. The following is expressed in the Qur’an, Al-Hajj (The Pilgrimage) verse 37:

“It is not their meat nor their blood, that reaches Allah, it is your piety that reaches Him: He has thus made them subject to you, that you may glorify Allah for His Guidance to you and proclaim the good news to all who do good...”. As it is seen in this verse too, the purpose of sacrificing animals is sincerity, devotion and being close to Allah. The purpose is to remember Allah with the bounties He gave and especially to gain His consent. Unless those purposes and aims are intended, no matter how much meat is given away nor how much blood is shed, they have no value before Allah.

3- Sacrifice is also an opportunity to remind the salvation of Prophet Ishmael (peace and blessings be upon him) as a favor of Allah from being sacrificed. Allah, the Most High, tested Prophet Abraham (pbuh) and wanted him to sacrifice his only son, Ishmael. Both Hazrat Abraham and his son Hazrat Ishmael (peace be upon them) complied with that will sincerely. Hazrat Abraham laid down his son and started to slaughter him in the throat. However, the knife did not cut Hazrat Ishmael (pbuh). It was because the intention of Allah, the Most high, was not Hazrat Ishmael’s being slaughtered but to show and inform angels and people who will come till the end of time about those two noble prophets’ inaccessible submission and obedience, devotion and generosity. Because that wisdom occurred, Allah Almighty had commanded the knife not to cut Hazrat Ishmael. Instead of Hazrat Ishmael, He had sent down a ram to them from Paradise to be sacrificed. So sacrificing is a commemoration of that great and exemplary event.

4- Every year, thousands of animals are sacrificed by Muslims. It is, in a sense, a symbolic expression that a Muslim can sacrifice anything he has in order to worship Allah, comply with His command and give up anything he has for His sake.

5- The decree of sacrificing imposed by Islam is also a great bounty and mercy upon people. Poor people who have had difficulties and have not been able to eat meat for one year may have an opportunity to get a lot of meat to eat with the occasion of Eid al-Adha. Thus, the aspect of Islam that realizes social justice will be seen.


http://www.questionsonislam.com/article/wh...t-are-wisdoms-b
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...And do not spy or backbite each other. Would one of you like to eat the flesh of his brother when dead? You would detest it. And fear Allah ; indeed, Allah is Accepting of repentance and Merciful.

49:12

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alhamdulillah tered investment untuk kumpul pahala ni thumbup.gif
selagi ada orang baca apa kita post, selagi tu pahala masuk insyaAllah smile.gif smile.gif
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I don't understand how religions generally do not allow criticism and frank discussion but that's not what this forum is for I guess.

Do you think that vegans are more highly regarded than meat-eaters under Islam?
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QUOTE(son of God @ Oct 5 2014, 06:27 AM)
I don't understand how religions generally do not allow criticism and frank discussion but that's not what this forum is for I guess.

Do you think that vegans are more highly regarded than meat-eaters under Islam?
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Islam does not force a particular diet on anyone at all, as long as its pure and halal

Even if u eat vegetables your whole life, u have equal chance of getting into heaven as any other muslim

But there are a few occasions in life where it is reccomended to have some animals slaughtered, but it is never compulsory

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QUOTE(Super Saiya @ Oct 2 2014, 08:54 PM)
at least nak pandai juga baca sebab kebanyakan surah yang baca lancar menggunakan teknik menghafal.
I think few years ago I have read in newspaper there is a technic to katam Quran in 3 months for those who never know how to read Quran.
Wonder if this technic is still available and where to find.
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assuming u dah kenal huruf n boleh baca.
Easy practise practise n practise. get those quran apps yg ada reciter dengar n then baca. insyaAllah boleh lancar.

bila dh lancar kena berguru utk betulkan makhraj sebutan dan hukum hakam bacaan.
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Salams hari raya aidil adha pada semua,

Tadi saya terima satu soalan, jadi saya rasa ada baiknya saya sharekan jawapannya disini untuk semua.

Soalan: Setiap masjid saya pergi, doa antara kuthbahnya berbeza. Jadi apa yang saya perlu baca?

Jawapan:

Amalan membaca doa ketika khatib berhenti antara dua khutbah Jumaat bertepatan dengan amalan baik dalam Islam. Ini kerana terdapat hadis yang menyatakan berdoa pada waktu itu dimakbulkan dan mustajab.

Dengan itu seorang Muslim hendaklah mengambil peluang memohon pada Allah S.W.T pada waktu sedemikian dan waktu yang lain.

Rasulullah SAW bersabda yang bermaksud: “Ia (waktu mustajab doa) adalah antara imam duduk (di atas mimbar) sehingga selesai solat (Jumaat).” (Hadis Riwayat Muslim)

Difahami daripada hadis ini, antara dua khutbah Jumaat termasuk waktu doa mustajab. Berkenaan doa yang sepatutnya dibaca, ia tidak ditetapkan, tetapi boleh baca doa umum seperti memohon keampunan Allah dan rahmat-Nya atau doa khusus untuk diri sendiri serta keluarga.
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Assalammualaikum,

A good start.

Islamic websites I would like to share :

http://www.wonderfulinfo.com/the-names-of-...g-and-benefits/


http://www.iium.edu.my/deed/hadith/bukhari/


http://tanzil.net/#trans/en.sahih/1:1


http://www.iium.edu.my/deed/hadith/muslim/

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QUOTE(celicaizpower @ Oct 7 2014, 02:31 PM)
Salams hari raya aidil adha pada semua,

Tadi saya terima satu soalan, jadi saya rasa ada baiknya saya sharekan jawapannya disini untuk semua.

Soalan: Setiap masjid saya pergi, doa antara kuthbahnya berbeza. Jadi apa yang saya perlu baca?

Jawapan:

Amalan membaca doa ketika khatib berhenti antara dua khutbah Jumaat bertepatan dengan amalan baik dalam Islam. Ini kerana terdapat hadis yang menyatakan berdoa pada waktu itu dimakbulkan dan mustajab.

Dengan itu seorang Muslim hendaklah mengambil peluang memohon pada Allah S.W.T pada waktu sedemikian dan waktu yang lain.

Rasulullah SAW bersabda yang bermaksud: “Ia (waktu mustajab doa) adalah antara imam duduk (di atas mimbar) sehingga selesai solat (Jumaat).” (Hadis Riwayat Muslim)

Difahami daripada hadis ini, antara dua khutbah Jumaat termasuk waktu doa mustajab. Berkenaan doa yang sepatutnya dibaca, ia tidak ditetapkan, tetapi boleh baca doa umum seperti memohon keampunan Allah dan rahmat-Nya atau doa khusus untuk diri sendiri serta keluarga.
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QUOTE(cracksys @ Oct 8 2014, 11:48 PM)
i just put out both of my hand and mumble.
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No worries bro, I used to do that too when I was younger because I didn't know what to do.

I would recommend that you use the Doa for after prayers. Short, simple and meaningful.

Here's a link: (they have the Jawi & also rumi inside) thumbup.gif

http://rossacalla.blogspot.com/2013/06/pan...l#axzz3Fbss2Hs0
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QUOTE(celicaizpower @ Oct 9 2014, 10:15 AM)
No worries bro, I used to do that too when I was younger because I didn't know what to do.

I would recommend that you use the Doa for after prayers. Short, simple and meaningful.

Here's a link: (they have the Jawi & also rumi inside)  thumbup.gif

http://rossacalla.blogspot.com/2013/06/pan...l#axzz3Fbss2Hs0
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"And adhere to the Bond of Allah, together, and do not be divided. And remember the Favor of Allah that was bestowed upon you: how you were enemies, and how He united your hearts, so that by His Favor you became brothers. And how He saved you from the Pit of Fire when you were on the brink of it. And so Allah makes plain to you His verses, in order that you will be guided." (Al-Imran, 103)

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The Primordial Covenant in Islam

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Salam dear brother,

Thank you for your question and for contacting Ask About Islam.

This matter is directly mentioned in the Quran:

{And whenever your Sustainer brings forth their offspring from the loins of the children of Adam, He (thus) calls upon them to bear witness about themselves: "Am I not your Lord?"—to which they answer: "Yes, indeed, we do bear witness thereto." [Of this we remind you] lest you say on the Day of Resurrection: "Verily, we were unaware of this."} (Al-Araf, 7:172)


According to this verse, every soul was required, at some point, to bear witness to its recognition of the Divine Existence and Unity. Quranic commentators continue to debate when this covenant was made. Therefore, we will look at a few considerations as to when and how and to whom this question was put.

• When we were as yet nothing and received the command Be! We gave an affirmative existential response to God's creative act, which is represented or dramatized as a question–answer or a covenant.

• When were still in the form of atoms or even particles not yet formed as atoms, the Lord of the Worlds, Who cherishes and leads everything to perfection, made these particles feel the desire and joy of being human. He therefore took the promise and covenant from them, which is considered a "Yes" from all atoms to God's creative call, though it was far beyond their own power to even imagine such an affirmation.

Such question–answer or offer–acceptance is not in words or statements. For this reason, the event has been interpreted allegorically by some, as if the question were put, answered, and had a particular legal value and effect, although it is not an actual verbal or written contract. In fact, without taking into account God's power and innumerable ways of communicating with His creatures, considering this covenant to be an ordinary contract can lead only to difficulty and error.

This acknowledgement and declaration, this covenant bearing witness against ourselves as regards our recognition of the Divine Existence and Unity, is the ground of our knowing and feeling ourselves, of comprehending that we are nothing other than ourselves. In other words, this covenant is the ground of self-knowledge. It means that we start to look into the mirror of knowledge (ma'rifa or 'ilm), witness the realization of diverse truths reflected in our consciousness, and acknowledge and declare that witnessing. However, the offer–acceptance, the perceiving–making perceived, the covenant, is not overt or amenable to direct perception. Perhaps it becomes perceived after many warnings and orders, and thus the significance of moral and religious guidance, counseling, and enlightenment.

The ego or self (nafs) is created and entrusted to us so that we may know and declare the Creator's Existence and Unity. Therefore, we prove God's Existence with our own existence, and show God's Attributes with our own attributes. For example, our deficiencies and imperfection show God's all-sufficiency and perfection; our privations show God's wealth and abundance; and our inability, weakness, and poverty show God's power, favor, and benevolence. The covenanted self is God's first favor and bestowal upon humanity. Our proper response is to know and declare God's Existence throughout creation and to perceive His Light in all lights. This is how the primordial covenant is fulfilled. The covenant is like a command that is accepted through understanding the meaning of the magnificent Book of Creation written by the Divine Power and Will, of our comprehending the secrets of the lines of events.

The question–answer of the covenant should not be thought of in a material or corporeal sense. God commands beings according to their particular individual nature, and listens to their needs and speech and whatever issues from them. Thus, He understands all and fulfils their needs. In the scholastic theologians' terminology, the Almighty understands all languages and dialects; issues commands and communicates truths in them; explains and expounds humanity and the universe; and takes promises and makes covenant with them in the form of words, for which the technical term is kalam-i lafzi. There is also a Divine Speech specific to animals as inspiration, and to angels as divine discourse. Although their precise natures are unknown to us, obviously it is non-verbal and consists of different manifestations of the so-called kalam-i nafsi.

Divine Speech is so diverse and extensive—from the inspiration coming to the human heart to the discourse addressed to the angels—and the forms of communication between the Creator and His creation are so different and occur in such different realms that those who inhabit one realm cannot hear or detect the communications belonging to another realm.

It is a serious mistake to suppose that we can hear everything. It is generally accepted that the range of our hearing, like our sight, is quite limited. What we see and hear is almost nothing when compared to that which we cannot see or hear. For this reason, God's communicating with the atoms or systems within this creation, His composing, decomposing or re-composing them, occur in such sublime ways that our limited perceptive powers cannot detect or understand them.

We cannot know exactly when God made this covenant with us, for such knowledge is beyond the ability of our limited senses and faculties. In fact, He might have made it not with our whole being, but with a specific part, such as our soul, conscience, or one of the soul's sub-faculties.

There is general agreement that the human soul is an entity independent of the body. Since the soul came into existence before the physical body, and in a sense has a particular individual nature outside of time, and since the questioning and acceptance in the covenant was with the soul, our limited powers cannot comprehend or report it fully. The soul hears and speaks without words and voice, as it does in dreams, and communicates extrasensory and without the medium of sound waves, as in telepathy. This special form of communication is registered and recorded in its own specific way. When its time is due, it will assume its specific form and, using that language, speak and bring to the mind all original associations. At that time, we will see that the covenant has remained imprinted upon the human soul. In addition, it will be adduced as an argument against its possessor on the Day of Judgment.

The souls of all human beings were gathered in a realm that was not veiled by an intervening realm, and so saw everything clearly. After this, they gave God an oath of allegiance. When He asked them to witness against themselves: "Am I not your Lord?" they replied: "Yes, we witness that You are our Lord and our God." However, as is common today, some people have never turned to that section of their soul (their conscience). Thus, they have not come across that profoundly inherent covenant in themselves, for they have no interest in it and have not tried to see beyond the corporeal world that intervenes between them and reality.

If their minds were not clouded by the conditioning biases under which they live, they would see and hear the answer to the covenant in their conscience. This is the main purpose of inward and outward, as well as subjective and objective contemplation and search. Engaging in such activities saves the mind from self-obsession and frees ideals. With an open mind and a genuinely free will, people can try to read the delicate writings in their consciences. Some people who have habituated themselves to looking into the depths of their hearts cannot discover in books the thoughts and inspiration they acquire through such inward observation and contemplation. Even the allegorical meanings and allusive signs in the Divine Books can become manifest in their true profundity if studied in such a manner. But people cannot attain such a profound level of inward observation and contemplation, or understand what they might discover there, if they cannot overcome their own selves.

Let's look at the when of this covenant. It is really difficult to derive anything definite from the Quran and Hadith on this matter. Some commentators argue that the covenant is taken in the realm of atoms, when the person is in a state of uncomposed, separate atoms, and with the atoms and the soul of which the person will be composed. Others say that the covenant is taken while the sperm is travelling toward the egg, when the individual begins to form in the mother's womb, when it becomes a fetus, when spirit is breathed into the fetus, when the child reaches puberty, or when the person is religiously responsible for his or her actions.

While each claim has its own supporting arguments, it is difficult to show a serious reason for preferring one to another.

In fact, this event could happen in the realm of spirits, in a different realm where the soul relates to or gets in touch with its own atoms, in any embryonic stage, or in any stages till the individual reaches puberty. God Almighty, Who relates to both past and present simultaneously, Who sees and hears past and present together at the same instant, could take the covenant at all of the stages mentioned. As believers, we hear such a communication from the depth of our consciences and know that our hearts have borne witness to such a covenant.

As a stomach expresses its emptiness in its own language, as a body tells its aches and pains in its own words, so the conscience informs us of this event in its own language and words. It suffers pain, distress, and affliction. Moaning with pangs of regret, it becomes restless to keep the promise made, and always hopes for the good and the best. When it draws attention by its sighs and moans, it feels relieved, fortunate and happy, just as children do when they draw their parents' attention. When it cannot express its need or find anyone to understand it, it writhes in pain and distress.

Are there any rational proofs that the covenant really took place?

Some issues that are difficult to explain by reason; yet the possibility of such things can be mentioned. In fact, we cannot object to what God has affirmed.

Essentially, the Almighty speaks to His creations in many ways. We also use different ways and styles when communicating with others. Apart from words, we have various outer and inner faculties, sentiments and perceptions, mind and soul. Sometimes we speak to ourselves in words audible only to our hearts and minds. Such speech is not utterance, but pertains to the soul or self. At times, we communicate with others using these non-verbal methods.

At times we speak, hear, and listen to conversations in our dreams. But those who are awake and nearby hear nothing. After waking up, we tell them what we spoke and heard. So this is another mode of speech.

Some awake people can see the pictures or tablets shown to them from the World of Ideas and speak to its inhabitants. Materialists do not believe in such things, and may refer to them as hallucinations. It does not matter; let them say so... But we know that one of Prophet Muhammad's distinctions was that he was granted vision of such tablets, pictures from the World of Ideas and from other worlds, and that he conveyed to humanity what he saw, heard, and understood. So this is another mode of speech.

Revelation to the Prophets is yet another. We know that the Prophet was fully awake and conscious when the Revelation came. Sometimes he would be lying on the ground with his head on his wife's knee, sitting and leaning against a Companion's shoulders, while his knee was touching the knee of the Companion sitting next to him, or among a group of people. At such times, he felt, received, and experienced the revelation with its full weight, and conveyed the Divine message in its entirety. Those in his presence realized, from what they could see, that the Prophet was receiving Revelation, although they could not hear it. They could "hear" and understand it only after he communicated it to them verbally. It was as if the dimensions were different.

Another way of speaking is Divine inspiration. God inspires saints, and influences, imparts, or dictates something into their hearts in such a way that they can deduce something. When they guess, or speak or act, God makes them do or say just the right thing by His mercy. So this is yet another mode of speech.

Another way of communication from heart to heart, and from mind to mind, is telepathy. This method is defined as sending thoughts or messages to another person's mind by extrasensory means. Many scientists have studied this phenomenon in the hope of benefiting from it. The atheistic and materialist Soviet regime did sustained work on telepathy, no doubt in the hope of gaining a military advantage.

Based on the above, it is clear that God created numerous, perhaps unlimited, modes of speech and communication.

Returning to the question of "Am I not your Lord?" in the primordial covenant, we do not know how God asked this question. If it took the form of Divine inspiration to saints, it would not be correct to expect some kind of audible voice. If it was a question asked of the soul, certainly it would not resemble a question asked of the body or flesh—or vice versa.

The crucial point here is that if we attempt to evaluate what they see, hear, or experience in other realms with worldly criteria and measures, we will end up in error. A hadith states that the angels Munkar and Nakir interrogate the dead in their graves. So, to whom or what do they direct their questions? But whether they question the soul or the body, the result is the same. Though the dead hear the questions, others buried nearby and living passers-by cannot hear them. Even the most sophisticated modern listening devices placed in or near the grave will not detect anything, for it takes place in a different dimension. Some scientists have claimed that there are many more dimensions than just the three that are familiar to us. As place, context, and dimensions change, the mode of interrogation and communication must change and assume an appropriate form.

As the primordial covenant is between God and our soul, we cannot expect to feel and retain the influence of that instant in any physical way. Rather, we should expect it to be reflected in our conscience, as only our conscience and the inspirations that come to it can sense such a thing. Once, while I was talking about this issue, someone told me that he did not feel that question and answer of the covenant in himself. I replied: "Not feeling it is a difficulty for you. Try to solve it."

As for me, I felt it and remember quite well that I did so. If I am asked how I feel it, I say that it is by my desire for eternity, and by my infinite desire despite my limited, transitory existence. Essentially, I cannot know and comprehend God because I am limited. How can I comprehend the Unlimited, the Infinite, the Everlasting, the Absolute, and the Almighty? But because of my endless desire and enthusiasm for the Infinite and Eternal, I realize that I feel it. I aspire to infinity and eternity, even though I am a tiny creature in a limited world in a limited universe; one destined to live for a while and then die; one whose range of views and opinions are expected to be fixed, confined, and narrow. Despite this I yearn for Paradise, the Vision of God, and the Divine Beauty. If I owned the whole world, my anxieties and grieves would still torment me. Because I have such aspirations, I say: "I felt it."

Our conscience, with all its sub-faculties and sections, always tries to remain attached to God and never lies. If you give it what it requires, it can attain peace and tranquility. That is why the Quran points out that our heart, which is a subtle inner faculty, can attain peace only if the conscience can attain it: For without doubt in the remembrance of God do hearts find satisfaction (13:28).

Such philosophers as Bergson, leaving all rational and traditional proofs aside, argue that the conscience proves God's existence. The German philosopher Kant said: "I felt the need to leave behind all the books I read in order to believe in God." Bergson refers to his "intuition," and his only proof is his conscience.

Yes, one's conscience is in agony if it rejects God, for it can find ease and satisfaction only through belief in God. If we really listen to what our conscience is saying, we will feel the desire for the Eternal and Abiding God. This feeling, perception, or quality is equivalent to the response of: "Yes, we bear witness thereto" to the question: "Am I not your Lord?" expressed silently within the human conscience. If we pay close attention, we can hear this voice, which wells up from the depths of our souls. To look for it in our mind or body is futile, for it already exists, latent and inherent, in every human conscience. However, it can prove its existence only on its own terms. Only those close to the state of the Prophets and saints, and who follow their ways, can see it clearly and make others see it.

Such matters cannot be proven in the manner of a simple, physical existent like a tree. However, those who listen to their conscience, who turn their gaze inward and observe what happens there, will see, hear, and know the primordial covenant between us and our Maker.

I hope this helps answer your question.

Salam and please keep in touch.

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Narrated Ibn ‘Abbas (R.A):

The Prophet (pbuh) sent Mu’adh to Yemen and said, “Be afraid, from the curse of the oppressed as there is no screen between his invocation and Allah.” Volume 3, Book 43, Number 628: Sahih Bukhari.

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Assalamualaikum brothers,

Mohon pencerahan,

Cara nak kira berapa kena bayar fidyah untuk yg tglkn puasa. dimana nk bayar. kena pegi pejabat jakim ke cne.
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QUOTE(abemin @ Oct 15 2014, 05:05 PM)
Assalamualaikum brothers,

Mohon pencerahan,

Cara nak kira berapa kena bayar fidyah untuk yg tglkn puasa. dimana nk bayar. kena pegi pejabat jakim ke cne.
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http://www.zakat.com.my/info-zakat/fidyah
http://www.e-zakat.com.my/kalkulator-zakat/fidyah/
http://4evainaha.blogspot.sg/2012/07/bayar...-maybank2u.html

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QUOTE(abemin @ Oct 15 2014, 05:05 PM)
Assalamualaikum brothers,

Mohon pencerahan,

Cara nak kira berapa kena bayar fidyah untuk yg tglkn puasa. dimana nk bayar. kena pegi pejabat jakim ke cne.
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QUOTE(miaopurr @ Oct 15 2014, 05:16 PM)
trima kaseh, very relevant untuk saya jugak icon_question.gif
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QUOTE(qreemall @ Oct 15 2014, 07:07 PM)
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"Remember your lord's name and devote yourself to Him with utter devotion."

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QUOTE(miaopurr @ Oct 15 2014, 05:16 PM)
TQ.

Mohon pencerahan. Kalau buat pembayaran online (Cimbclicks), kena bayar ikut negeri ke? icon_question.gif
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QUOTE(acid427 @ Oct 16 2014, 02:54 PM)
TQ.

Mohon pencerahan. Kalau buat pembayaran online (Cimbclicks), kena bayar ikut negeri ke?  icon_question.gif
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http://blog.e-zakat.com.my/?page_id=89
relevankah jawapan?

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QUOTE(miaopurr @ Oct 16 2014, 02:58 PM)
harap membantu
http://blog.e-zakat.com.my/?page_id=89
relevankah jawapan?
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“And indeed it has been revealed to you (O Muhammad SAW), as it was to those (Allahs Messengers) before you: ‘If you join others in worship with Allah, (then) surely (all) your deeds will be in vain, and you will certainly be among the losers.’

Nay! But worship Allah (Alone and none else), and be among the grateful”

[az-Zumar 39:65-66].

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rasanya elok kalau ada penerangan atau kupasan ringkas ayat2 yg dikongsi, kalau boleh la...

saya kurang faham ayat tu

join others in worship with allah tu maksud bersama dgn yg lain menyemah Allah... atau.. apa?

rasa kalau translation quranexplorer http://www.quranexplorer.com/quran/ lebih senang faham.
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nak tanya, ada ke pengabungan solat jama' dan qasar sekaligus ?

contohnya gabungkan 2 rakaat zuhur dan 2 rakaat asar

banyak dalil bercakap pasal gabungkan solat (4rakaat + rakaat) and pendekkan solat (2 rakaat shj bagi satu satu waktu)

tapi takde yang cakap pasal 2+2 hmm.gif hmm.gif hmm.gif

ini musykil berat ni

dah try research google so far takde jawapan memuaskan
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QUOTE(seiferalmercy @ Oct 17 2014, 06:15 PM)
nak tanya, ada ke pengabungan solat jama' dan qasar sekaligus ?

contohnya gabungkan 2 rakaat zuhur dan 2 rakaat asar

banyak dalil bercakap pasal gabungkan solat (4rakaat + rakaat) and pendekkan solat (2 rakaat shj bagi satu satu waktu)

tapi takde yang cakap pasal 2+2 hmm.gif  hmm.gif  hmm.gif

ini musykil berat ni

dah try research google so far takde jawapan memuaskan
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thanks, yang ni aku dah baca, tapi dalil-dalilnya tak ditunjukkan, so aku kurang yakin... unsure.gif
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QUOTE(seiferalmercy @ Oct 17 2014, 06:25 PM)
thanks, yang ni aku dah baca, tapi dalil-dalilnya tak ditunjukkan, so aku kurang yakin... unsure.gif
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Oh, kalau nak dalil-dalik tak pasti pulak. Tapi seingat aku dlu kat sekolah mmg ustaz pernah ajar macam ni.

Nak terang dalam ni macam tak berapa reti rclxub.gif Tapi kalau baca syarat-syarat untuk qasar dan jama' kat SINI, boleh faham serba sedikit kot. Kena ikut tertib samada jama' taqdim / jama' ta'khir, qasar untuk solat yang 4 rakaat sahaja. Maaf kalau tersilap.
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1st time tgk lowyat mcm ni....its a good change
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QUOTE(seiferalmercy @ Oct 17 2014, 06:15 PM)
nak tanya, ada ke pengabungan solat jama' dan qasar sekaligus ?

contohnya gabungkan 2 rakaat zuhur dan 2 rakaat asar

banyak dalil bercakap pasal gabungkan solat (4rakaat + rakaat) and pendekkan solat (2 rakaat shj bagi satu satu waktu)

tapi takde yang cakap pasal 2+2 hmm.gif  hmm.gif  hmm.gif

ini musykil berat ni

dah try research google so far takde jawapan memuaskan
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mmg betul la... byk naration & hadith pasal 4+4 .
anywhere just sharing pasal wudu` cara nabi


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QUOTE(ralfvi @ Oct 18 2014, 11:51 AM)
mmg betul la... byk naration & hadith pasal 4+4 .
anywhere just sharing pasal wudu` cara nabi

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so boleh ke tak 2+2 ? hmm.gif
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Allah SWT telah memberi kelonggaran/keringanan kpd umat Islam dlm mengerjakan ibadah solat dalam situasi tertentu khususnya ketika bermusafir.  Kelonggaran ini dinamakan RUKHSAH SOLAT.

Sabda Rasullah SAW ;

إن الله يحب أن تؤتى رخصـه كما يكره أن تؤنى معصـيته. رواه أحمد
“Sesungguhnya Allah suka dilaksanakan rukhsah (keringanan) yang diberikan olehNya seperti Allah membenci  dilakukan maksiat kepadaNya”. Hadis riwayat Ahmad.

Rukhsah Solat bertujuan supaya umat Islam dapat menunaikan fardhu Solat dalam apa keadaan sekalipun, di samping membuktikan bahawa agama Islam yamg mengambilkira  kebajikan umat dan bukanlah agama yang menyusahkan. Allah telah mensyariatkan Solat Qasar dan Solat Jamak sebagai rukhsah bagi mereka yang bermusafir.

SYARAT-SYARAT PERJALANAN (MUSAFIR) YANG DIBENARKAN UTK SOLAT QASAR/JAMAK
1. Musafir adalah utk tujuan yang baik, bukan utk melakukan maksiat.
2. Destinasi yang dituju melalui 2 marhalah (lebih kurang 91 KM).
3. Mengetahui destinasi yang dituju ( tahu jalannya, tidak tersesat).

HIKMAH DISYARIATKAN SOLAT QASAR/JAMAK
1. Meringan/memudahkan umat Islam utk menunaikan solat dalam perjalanan.
2. Tanda kasih sayang Allah kepada manusia.
3. Supaya solat fardhu dapat dilaksanakan dlm apa kedaan sekalipun.
4. Menggalakkan umat Islam bermusafir/melancong/ziarah-menziarahi  bagi menambahkan keimanan dan mengeratkan tali persaudaraan.


sekadar pendapat & ni mungkin penjelasan yang mudah difahami.
2+2 dibenarkan asalkan masih lagi menunaikan solat tersebut. Ia kemungkinan juga bertujuan untuk memudahkan perjalanan si musafir,
contoh: naik bas balik kampung selalunya bas akan berhenti sekali je dan selalunya dalam jangka waktu yang pendek (30 minit +/-). Jadi kita dibenarkan untuk melaksanakan solat jamak qasar kerana khuatir tidak sempat sampai ke destinasi sebelum habis waktu.

jamak: 2 solat dalam satu waktu
qasar: memendekkan solat

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Al-Sunnah yang bermaksud; ‘Ya’la bin Umayyah pernah bertanya kepada Umar bin al- Khattab, “Kenapa kita perlu mengqasarkan solat sedangkan kita berada dalam keamanan?” Lalu beliau menjawab, “Aku telah bertanya kepada Nabi s.a.w., dan Baginda bersabda, solat qasar itu adalah sedekah yang Tuhan telah bersedekah kepadamu, maka terimalah sekalian kamu akan sedekah- Nya” (Riwayat al-Nasa’i dan Abu Daud)


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satu-satunya buku yg tawu untuk refer adalah buku teks agama masa sekolah menengah dulu sebab xbanyak sangat baca buku2 lain, itu pun ingat2 lupa laugh.gif
dalam tu ada sebut pasal jamak qasar ni. Mohon betulkan kalau ada silap notworthy.gif
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RECITING SURAH AL MULK EVERY NIGHT BEFORE SLEEP WILL PROTECT YOU FROM PUNISHMENT OF THE GRAVE

The Prophet (salAllahu alayhi wasalam) said,
'There is a surah in the Qur'an which is only thirty verses. It defended whoever recited it until it puts him into paradise' i.e. Surah al Mulk

[Fath al Qadir 5/257, Sahihul Jamiea 1/680, Tabrani in Al-Awsat & Ibn Mardawaith]

The Prophet (salAllahu alayhi wasalam) said,
'Surah al Mulk is the protector from the torment of the grave'

[Sahihul Jamiea 1/680, Hakim 2/498 & Nasai]

Jabir (radiAllahu anhu) said it was the custom of the Prophet (salAllahu alayhi wasalam) not to go to sleep until he had read Tabarakallahi Biyadihil Mulk and Alif Laam Meem Tanzeel.

[Ahmad, Tirmidhi and Darami]

Anas (radiAllahu anhu) reported Rasulullah (sallallahu alaiyhi wasalam) as saying, "There is a Surah which will plead for its reciter till it causes him to enter paradise (Tabarakallahi Biyadihil Mulk)."
[at-Tabrani]

Abdullah Ibn 'Abbas (radiAllahu anhu) reported that the Prophet (salAllahu alayhi wasalam)said, 'It is my desire/love that Surahtul Mulk should be in the heart of every Muslim'

[Hakim, al-Hisnul Haseen by the cassical scholar Muhammad al-Jazri]

Ibn Abbas (radiAllahu anhu) said that one of the Prophet (salAllahu alayhi wasalam)'s companions set up his tent over a grave without realising that it was a grave and it contained a man who was reciting the Surah Tabarakallahi Biyadihil Mulk up to the end. He went and told the Prophet (salAllahu alayhi wasalam) who said, 'It is The Defender; it is The Protector which safeguards from Allah Ta'ala's punishment'

[at-Tirmidhi]

Khalid bin Madam (tabie) said about surat Al Mulk and 'As Sajda that these two surahs will fight for their reciter in the grave and will say, 'O Allah! If we belong to your book, accept our intercession in his favour. In case we do not, get us obliterated. These surahs will spread their wings like birds and will save the person from the torment of the grave.'

[Mishkat al-Misbah]

It was narrated that Abdullah ibn Mas'ud (ra) said: Whoever reads Tabarakallahi Biyadihil Mulk [i.e. Surah al-Mulk] every night, Allah will protect him from the torment of the grave. At the time of the Messenger of Allah (sallallahu alaiyhi wasalam) we used to call it al-mani'ah (that which protects). In the Book of Allah it Is a surah which, whoever recites it every night has done very well.



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QUOTE(seiferalmercy @ Sep 24 2014, 07:58 PM)
"This day I have perfected for you your religion and completed My favor upon you and have approved for you Islam as religion"
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Assalamualaikum, peace be upon you biggrin.gif

this thread here shall be platform for my fellow brethren to discuss stuff blush.gif  flex.gif

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Setan tumpang lalu.....

Why Muslim Fellowship? How about changing thread title to Muslim brotherhood instead?

Here drillz:



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Asslam my brother and sisters in Islam,

Ade sapa2 tau x pasal zakat pendapatan? contohnya:
1) sapa yg wajib bayar?
2) macam mana nak bayar?
3) bile kene bayar?
4) jumlah yg kene bayar?
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Asslam my brother and sisters in Islam,

Ade sapa2 tau x pasal zakat pendapatan? contohnya:
1) sapa yg wajib bayar?
2) macam mana nak bayar?
3) bile kene bayar?
4) jumlah yg kene bayar?
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jawapan ada di sini http://www.zakat.com.my/

2) bayar online pun boleh
3) bila cukup setahun pendapatan
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ko patut congrat depa sbb ada cubaan jadi baik + komen kat sini  nod.gif

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biarkan je... best response is to ignore.

bak kata /k, don't feed the troll
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QUOTE(seiferalmercy @ Oct 17 2014, 06:15 PM)
nak tanya, ada ke pengabungan solat jama' dan qasar sekaligus ?

contohnya gabungkan 2 rakaat zuhur dan 2 rakaat asar

banyak dalil bercakap pasal gabungkan solat (4rakaat + rakaat) and pendekkan solat (2 rakaat shj bagi satu satu waktu)

tapi takde yang cakap pasal 2+2 hmm.gif  hmm.gif  hmm.gif

ini musykil berat ni

dah try research google so far takde jawapan memuaskan
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Normally when i either oversea, outstation or holiday. I always do 4+4 one because i feel more calm and relax somemore got alot of extra time. It only take like 10-15 minutes somemore since i'm more on jogger type feel wierd if do short2 one.

Maybe it just my feeling.

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I will do Qasar plus Jamak since it is a gift from Allah to traveller.

Dari Abdullah Bin ‘Umar (ra) katanya: Telah bersabda Rasulullah (sallallahu alaihi wasalam):

“Sesungguhnya Allah menyukai rukhsahNya dilaksanakan sebagaimana Dia membenci maksiatNya dilakukan”.

[HR Ahmad – sahih menurut Ibnu Hibban dan Ibnu Hizaimah]
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Setan tumpang lalu.....

Why Muslim Fellowship? How about changing thread title to Muslim brotherhood instead?

Here drillz:
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Setuju sangat Bro. fellowship nie sesuai dekat middle earth atau pun kat mordor wink.gif jer .
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Setuju sangat Bro. fellowship nie sesuai dekat middle earth atau pun kat mordor  wink.gif  jer .
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aku takmau orang terkonfius kita dengan ikhwanul muslimin

ko paham2 la /k suka label orang tariban lah apa lah..
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But as for those who defiantly disobeyed, their refuge is the Fire. Every time they wish to emerge from it, they will be returned to it while it is said to them, "Taste the punishment of the Fire which you used to deny."
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salam k.

some of the fb comments about touching the dog is really getting my nerve. these fb comments are from those liberal mind.

i googled y muslim need to wash any area that has contact with wet dog or its saliva using soiled water. y wet dog and saliva? dangerous?

yes it is dangerous because of rabies. but... today got vaccine d right. how to counter this?

am i look like a immature kid about this? no i really want to know y too.


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QUOTE(saigetsu @ Oct 21 2014, 09:52 AM)
salam k.

some of the fb comments about touching the dog is really getting my nerve. these fb comments are from those liberal mind.

i googled y muslim need to wash any area that has contact with wet dog or its saliva using soiled water. y wet dog and saliva? dangerous?

yes it is dangerous because of rabies. but... today got vaccine d right. how to counter this?

am i look like a immature kid about this? no i really want to know y too.
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i think u've got ur questions answered already in the topic u opened earlier.

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QUOTE(miaopurr @ Oct 21 2014, 10:10 AM)
i think u've got ur questions answered already in the topic u opened earlier.
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oh yeah. just now xda sambutan
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But as for those who defiantly disobeyed, their refuge is the Fire. Every time they wish to emerge from it, they will be returned to it while it is said to them, "Taste the punishment of the Fire which you used to deny."
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tiap2 kali teringat hukuman paling ringan yakni pakai sepatu dibuat daripada api neraka sampaikan otak mendidih. dan teringat pula betapa sakit apabila jari tersentuh cerek panas sampai kulit jari melecur.

terasa gerun kejap...

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QUOTE(miaopurr @ Oct 21 2014, 10:16 AM)
tiap2 kali teringat hukuman paling ringan yakni pakai sepatu dibuat daripada api neraka sampaikan otak mendidih. dan teringat pula betapa sakit apabila jari tersentuh cerek panas sampai kulit jari melecur.

terasa gerun kejap...
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Seorang mukmin itu hidup diantara ketakutan dan harapan

Dia takut dengan api neraka, tapi ada harapan untuk keampunan dan rahmat Allah...semoga Allah mengampunkan kita semua inshaAllah

Kalau baca cerita neraka tiap tiap malam, jadi seriau pastu mula rajin gi surau, dia kena macamtu baru jadi baik sweat.gif
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QUOTE(seiferalmercy @ Oct 21 2014, 02:35 PM)
Seorang mukmin itu hidup diantara ketakutan dan harapan

Dia takut dengan api neraka, tapi ada harapan untuk keampunan dan rahmat Allah...semoga Allah mengampunkan kita semua inshaAllah

Kalau baca cerita neraka tiap tiap malam, jadi seriau pastu mula rajin gi surau, dia kena macamtu baru jadi baik sweat.gif
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bacaan talkin untuk peringatan kita semua... terutamanya saya. icon_question.gif

everytime i read this talkin text, makes me wanna cry. coz i know i'm not ready. cry.gif

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topic mana?
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dah kolos liao. Crappy athiest keep derailing my thread.

thread anjing
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QUOTE(saigetsu @ Oct 21 2014, 03:54 PM)
dah kolos liao. Crappy athiest keep derailing my thread.

thread anjing
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biarkan je...

Imam Syafie pernah berkata "aku mampu berhujah dengan 10 orang yang berilmu tetapi aku pasti akan kalah berhujah dengan seorang yang jahil kerana orang yang jahil tidak pernah faham landasan ilmu".
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QUOTE(seiferalmercy @ Oct 20 2014, 07:06 PM)
aku takmau orang terkonfius kita dengan ikhwanul muslimin

ko paham2 la /k suka label orang tariban lah apa lah..
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takper lah kena label taliban pun , biar lah dimata manusia.
Allah lebih mengetahui niat hamba2nya.
just as a suggestion jer , fellowship pun OKay janji برساتو تڬوه
maybe boleh start using jawi after this. hahaha.
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kadang2 prektis baca jawi teks khutbah jumaat. merangkak...
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بياساله ده لاما تق ڤركتيس لاما لاما اوق برو

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بياساله ده لاما تق ڤركتيس لاما لاما اوق برو
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halusnye....
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Subhanallah, ada juga thread yang mcm ni. Sure parking.
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"Do you not see those who dispute concerning the signs of Allah - how they are turned away [from truth]? Those who reject the Book and that with which We sent Our messengers - soon they will know. When the yokes [will be] round their necks and the chains. They will be dragged in the boiling water. Then in the Fire they will be burned."
[Surah Ghafir, 40: 69-72]

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We hear and we obey. Forgive us, our Lord!
To You is the journey's end.
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The source of information for Muslim guidance is Qur'an.
Besides, prophet Muhammad is also a side source of information.
Allah said in surah Al-Ahzab, verses 21:

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"There has certainly been for you in the Messenger of Allah an excellent pattern for anyone whose hope is in Allah and the Last Day and [who] remembers Allah often."


This means everything that prophet Muhammad agree, disagree, doing, and said should be an example for Muslims. That's why we believe in Hadith as well.
I've seen trends of people posting and sharing religious reminders in social media. I'm sure you've experienced it.
It's good thing to do. But, some of these reminders are actually based on fallacy a.k.a 'false hadith'.
Wrong info that claimed from prophet is a very serious issue, as said by prophet himself:

I(Salama) heard the Prophet saying, "Whoever (intentionally) ascribes to me what I have not said then (surely) let him occupy his seat in Hell-fire."
(Sahih Bukhari) Level hadith: muttawatir

So before you decide to believe, or forward to others. please cross check by googling to ensure its based on credible Qur'an and Hadith.
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"...Those who deny (their Lord), for them will be cut out a garment of Fire. Over their heads will be poured out boiling water. With it will be scalded what is within their bodies, as well as (their) skins. In addition there will be maces of iron (to punish) them. Every time they wish to get away therefrom, from anguish, they will be forced back, and (it will be said), "Taste the Penalty of Burning!" (22:19-22).
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TVSUNNAH

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Nouman Ali Khan collection

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCNdUFOtzSx3FS71pHkQLxhQ

RevivalofTheUmmahTT

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCAbs9ar263qnPIXxuyW9G2A

SuperMeknik ,ceramah2 uztaz kat malaysia

https://www.youtube.com/user/SuperMeknik

TheDailyReminder,short video of advice

https://www.youtube.com/user/TheDailyReminder

YasirQadhi,sheikh kat USA.bagus gak laa

https://www.youtube.com/user/YasirQadhi

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TheMercifulServant , same macam thedailyreminder

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I realized that I need exactly 8 hours of sleep.

So, if I sleep at 10pm, it gets really easier to wake up at 6a.m. to perform solat subuh. biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(leah235 @ Oct 26 2014, 09:49 AM)
I realized that I need exactly 8 hours of sleep.

So, if I sleep at 10pm, it gets really easier to wake up at 6a.m. to perform solat subuh. biggrin.gif
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i was like you once

so shiok sleeping until subuh takkesah.jpg

but recently I realized I have 2920 subuh to Qada' user posted image

Ohwai~

so now tiap- tiap hari solat subuh 2 - 3 kali untuk qada' yg lepas2

semoga Allah mengampunkan kita semua
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QUOTE(seiferalmercy @ Oct 26 2014, 10:12 AM)
i was like you once

so shiok sleeping until subuh takkesah.jpg

but recently I realized I have 2920 subuh to Qada' user posted image

Ohwai~

so now tiap- tiap hari solat subuh 2 - 3 kali untuk qada' yg lepas2

semoga Allah mengampunkan kita semua
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I'm so happy that I wake up BEFORE alarm clock rings LOL rclxm9.gif
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QUOTE(seiferalmercy @ Oct 26 2014, 10:12 AM)
i was like you once

so shiok sleeping until subuh takkesah.jpg

but recently I realized I have 2920 subuh to Qada' user posted image

Ohwai~

so now tiap- tiap hari solat subuh 2 - 3 kali untuk qada' yg lepas2

semoga Allah mengampunkan kita semua
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wow, how do you even manage to calculate that? sweat.gif

I usually set my alarm early around 5 and another one bila dah masuk waktu so senang sikit nak sedar. tu pun kadang2 terlepas jugak
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QUOTE(seiferalmercy @ Sep 25 2014, 05:44 PM)
Hamza yusuf

This a real scholar, he could quote hadiths, Al Quran and at the same time, jefferson and martin luther king
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QUOTE(seiferalmercy @ Oct 26 2014, 10:12 AM)
i was like you once

so shiok sleeping until subuh takkesah.jpg

but recently I realized I have 2920 subuh to Qada' user posted image

Ohwai~

so now tiap- tiap hari solat subuh 2 - 3 kali untuk qada' yg lepas2

semoga Allah mengampunkan kita semua
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There is no qada' for Solah(purposedly abandoning it).The direty of abandoning the solah cannot be covered like abandoning fasting in Ramadhan.
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Imaam Ahmad said that the one who does not pray because of laziness is a kaafir. This is the more correct view and is that indicated by the evidence of the Book of Allaah and the Sunnah of His Messenger, and by the words of the Salaf and the proper understanding.
(Al-Sharh al-Mumti’ ‘ala Zaad al-Mustanqi’, 2/26).

Anyone who examines the texts of the Qur’aan and Sunnah will see that they indicate that the one who neglects the prayer is guilty of Kufr Akbar (major kufr) which puts him beyond the pale of Islam.

Among the evidence to be found in the Qur’aan is:
The aayah (interpretation of the meaning):

“But if they repent [by rejecting Shirk (polytheism) and accept Islamic Monotheism], perform As-Salaat (Iqaamat-as-Salaat) and give Zakaat, then they are your brethren in religion.”
[al-Tawbah 9:11]


The evidence derived from this aayah is that Allaah defined three things that the Mushrikeen have to do in order to eliminate the differences between them us: they should repent from shirk, they should perform prayer, and they should pay zakaah. If they repent from shirk but they do not perform the prayer or pay zakaah, then they are not our brethren in faith; if they perform the prayer but do not pay zakaah, then they are not our brethren in faith. Brotherhood in religion cannot be effaced except when a person goes out of the religion completely; it cannot be effaced by fisq (immoral conduct) or lesser types of kufr.

Lets not lose hope brothers and sisters,
One need to peform towbah and not to repeat it again.A reminder towards myself too

Allah, may He be exalted, says (interpretation of the meaning):
“And verily, I am indeed Forgiving to him who repents, believes (in My Oneness, and associates none in worship with Me) and does righteous good deeds, and then remains constant in doing them, (till his death)”
[Ta-Ha 20:82]



But if amongst us did not perform prayer unintentionally ie: fell asleep etc2.One may peform the solah at the time he/she wokes up.

The evidence for that is the hadeeth narrated in Saheeh Muslim (681) which tells how the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) and his companions slept and missed Fajr prayer, and the Sahaabah began to ask one another,
“What is the expiation (kafaarah) for what we have done by neglecting the prayer?”

The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said.
Sleeping does not mean that you are neglecting the prayer. Rather neglecting the prayer means not praying one prayer until the time for the next prayer comes. Whoever does that let him pray when he remembers it.”


This does not mean that a person should sleep deliberately when a prayer is due, until he misses it, then use sleep as an excuse, or neglect a means that would help him to do the prayer, and then take that as an excuse. Rather he must make use of all the means he can, as the Messenger (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) did in this case, when he appointed one person to stay awake and wake them up to pray, but that person was overcome by drowsiness, so he did not wake them up. This is the case in which a person may be excused.

May Allah subhanahu wata'ala help us to be always on the righteous path of the way Rasulullah sallahi alayhiwasallam.

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Salamalaikum

How do we know that we are forgiven or that Allah love us?

Is there a particular sign ?
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QUOTE(seiferalmercy @ Oct 29 2014, 04:55 PM)
Salamalaikum

How do we know that we are forgiven or that Allah love us?

Is there a particular sign ?
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waalaikumsalam
don't think we know lah. deswai everyday must ask for forgiveness
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Salamalaikum

How do we know that we are forgiven or that Allah love us?

Is there a particular sign ?
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Nobody knows ....

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Allah sahaja yang mengetahui samada dosa kita diampunkan atau tidak. Kita
wajib mengharapkan pengampunan daripada Allah terhadap dosa-dosa yang
telah dilakukan.Kita juga wajib melaksanakan segala suruhan Allah dan
menjahui laranganNya.

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QUOTE(seiferalmercy @ Oct 29 2014, 04:55 PM)
Salamalaikum

How do we know that we are forgiven or that Allah love us?

Is there a particular sign ?
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when you're having hard time, that you wish so hard, and there will be a moment, a thought/feeling/someone help you go through the difficulties.
Have you ever recap what has happen in (your) the past?

I don't know about others, but in my case, I wished, I hoped, that I would get out from something, and eventually, I got out of it.
Every word, your every wish, in your sujud, set what you truly want and wish before you sleep, and Allah will grant your wish. It's just the matter of time.
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Of course, always, always, always be grateful that your wish comes true or when you feel 'the burden' has been lifted away from your shoulder. thumbup.gif
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salam gayse..

i always frequent a chinese hawker stall.. they dont serve pok.... and im sure chikin n beef used are halal... they also serve fake meat for vege cuisine, like fake beef rendang, fake chikin made of taufu.... i think last time i had fake char siu... i dont know its fake char siu btw, only noticed when someone posted it here in /k/ and looks similar in how it is garnished...

what is the hukum eating fake char siu?

mohon pencerahan

tq

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QUOTE(PVCpipe @ Oct 30 2014, 12:40 PM)
salam gayse..

i always frequent a chinese hawker stall.. they dont serve pok....   and im sure chikin n beef used are halal...  they also serve fake meat for vege cuisine, like fake beef rendang, fake chikin made of taufu.... i think last time i had fake char siu...   i dont know its fake char siu btw, only noticed when someone posted it here in /k/ and looks similar in how it is garnished...

what is the hukum eating fake char siu?

mohon pencerahan

tq
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sked to simply jatuhkan hukum. but u can read this Kaidah Fiqih Penentuan Hukum Halal-Haram dalam Makanan

btw, no other options of stalls selling food prepared by muslims there?

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QUOTE(miaopurr @ Oct 30 2014, 12:56 PM)
sked to simply jatuhkan hukum. but u can read this Kaidah Fiqih Penentuan Hukum Halal-Haram dalam Makanan

btw, no other options of stalls selling food prepared by muslims there?
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i like chinese food n amoi
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QUOTE(Turnip @ Oct 26 2014, 06:45 PM)
There is no qada' for Solah(purposedly abandoning it).The direty of abandoning the solah cannot be covered like abandoning fasting in Ramadhan.
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Imaam Ahmad said that the one who does not pray because of laziness is a kaafir. This is the more correct view and is that indicated by the evidence of the Book of Allaah and the Sunnah of His Messenger, and by the words of the Salaf and the proper understanding.
(Al-Sharh al-Mumti’ ‘ala Zaad al-Mustanqi’, 2/26).

Anyone who examines the texts of the Qur’aan and Sunnah will see that they indicate that the one who neglects the prayer is guilty of Kufr Akbar (major kufr) which puts him beyond the pale of Islam.

Among the evidence to be found in the Qur’aan is:
The aayah (interpretation of the meaning):

“But if they repent [by rejecting Shirk (polytheism) and accept Islamic Monotheism], perform As-Salaat (Iqaamat-as-Salaat) and give Zakaat, then they are your brethren in religion.”
[al-Tawbah 9:11]


The evidence derived from this aayah is that Allaah defined three things that the Mushrikeen have to do in order to eliminate the differences between them us: they should repent from shirk, they should perform prayer, and they should pay zakaah. If they repent from shirk but they do not perform the prayer or pay zakaah, then they are not our brethren in faith; if they perform the prayer but do not pay zakaah, then they are not our brethren in faith. Brotherhood in religion cannot be effaced except when a person goes out of the religion completely; it cannot be effaced by fisq (immoral conduct) or lesser types of kufr.

Lets not lose hope brothers and sisters,
One need to peform towbah and not to repeat it again.A reminder towards myself too

Allah, may He be exalted, says (interpretation of the meaning):
“And verily, I am indeed Forgiving to him who repents, believes (in My Oneness, and associates none in worship with Me) and does righteous good deeds, and then remains constant in doing them, (till his death)”
[Ta-Ha 20:82]



But if amongst us did not perform prayer unintentionally ie: fell asleep etc2.One may peform the solah at the time he/she wokes up.

The evidence for that is the hadeeth narrated in Saheeh Muslim (681) which tells how the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) and his companions slept and missed Fajr prayer, and the Sahaabah began to ask one another,
“What is the expiation (kafaarah) for what we have done by neglecting the prayer?”

The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said.
Sleeping does not mean that you are neglecting the prayer. Rather neglecting the prayer means not praying one prayer until the time for the next prayer comes. Whoever does that let him pray when he remembers it.”


This does not mean that a person should sleep deliberately when a prayer is due, until he misses it, then use sleep as an excuse, or neglect a means that would help him to do the prayer, and then take that as an excuse. Rather he must make use of all the means he can, as the Messenger (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) did in this case, when he appointed one person to stay awake and wake them up to pray, but that person was overcome by drowsiness, so he did not wake them up. This is the case in which a person may be excused.

May Allah subhanahu wata'ala help us to be always on the righteous path of the way Rasulullah sallahi alayhiwasallam.
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that is a very extreme pov

i think anybody who sin,can repent/taubat

and i heard ustaz azhar said once,if we skip 1 solat,we have to do it later.we cannot just "owh.dah lepas.biar la"

he give the analogy "if u kick someones leg intentionally,do u still apologise? or walk away?"

its not so much on the concept of qada,but more like "pay ur dues"

if u must solat 5 times,then u have to solat 5 times a day,even when u intentionally skip subuh,or zohor etc

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Assalammualaikum,

My understanding of this is that we should always pray on time.

If there are circumstances where we missed a prayer, we should make up for it.

http://www.iium.edu.my/deed/hadith/muslim/004a_smt.html


Book 8, Number 1448:

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Abu Huraira reported that when the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) returned from the expedition to Khaibar, he travelled one night, and stopped for rest when he became sleepy. He told Bilal to remain on guard during the night and he (Bilal) prayed as much as he could, while the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) and his Companions slept. When the time for dawn approached Bilal leaned against his camel facing the direction from which the dawn would appear but he was overcome by sleep while he was leaning against his camel, and neither the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) nor Bilal, nor anyone else among his Companions got up, till the sun shone on them. Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) was the first of them to awake and, being startled, he called to Bilal who said: Messenger of Allah I may my father and mother be offered as ransom for thee, the same thing overpowered me which overpowered you. He (the Holy Prophet, then) said: Lead the beasts on: so they led their camels to some distance. The Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) then performed ablution and gave orders to Bilal who pronounced the Iqama and then led them in the morning prayer. When he finished the prayer he said: When anyone forgets the prayer, he should observe it when he remembers it, for Allah has said: "And observe the prayer for remembrance of Me" (Qur'an. xx. 14). Yunus said: Ibn Shilab used to recite it like this: "(And observe the prayer) for remembrance."


Book 4, Number 1449:

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Abu Huraira reported : We stopped for rest along with the Apostle of Allah (may peace be upon him) and did not awake till the sun rose. The Apostle of Allah (may peace be upon him) then told us that everybody should take hold of his camel's nosestring (get out of this ground) for it was the place where devil had visited us. We did accordingly. He then called for water and performed ablution and then performed two prostrations. Ya'qub said: Then he prayed (performed) two prostrations. then takbir was pronounced for prayer and then he offered the morning prayer (in congregation).
It is upon Allah to accept our prayers and we should try our best and as much as we can to pray.

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salam kawan kawan

saya dilema sekarang
boleh rujuk di forum ini tak?

https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3396828
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hi all

currently got an interview invitation for Juruteknik komputer gred FT17

i'm confusing either to go or not

im degree holder in communication eng, got diploma in electronics eng and also got sijil kemahiran malaysia tahap 2


i'm currently working with telco company,

if i go to the interview, will they offer me the position or not?


QUOTE(fumakiller @ Nov 2 2014, 09:34 AM)
gred 17 is for SPM qualification..
not sure if it suitable for u with a degree..
for diploma, it usually start with gred 29..
and gred 41 for degree..
the difference of all those gred is salary and increase every year..

its your choice..
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thanks for reply,
i need to make a quick decision either to go for interview or not.

well, living condition and cost at kl and selangor area are quite though for me
with basic salary just rm 2500 rclxub.gif

so i am thinking to try go for this interview, so still has a chances to live at my hometown at besut terengganu..
the main reason i want to go back there is i think i not up for live challenging in kl and selangor area

if the interviewer know i got higher qualification , they will reject me ?
QUOTE

if i got the job, can i choose to be placed at besut terengganu area or it depends to them?

can i ask them during interview about relocated my work place back to my hometown?



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Assalamualaikum,

Guys im planing on going umrah next year. Did any of you can recommend/suggest me any agencies that is cheap/excellent for going umrah..

Can you guys also give me any tips on preparation for going umrah?
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QUOTE(seiferalmercy @ Oct 26 2014, 10:12 AM)
i was like you once

so shiok sleeping until subuh takkesah.jpg

but recently I realized I have 2920 subuh to Qada' user posted image

Ohwai~

so now tiap- tiap hari solat subuh 2 - 3 kali untuk qada' yg lepas2

semoga Allah mengampunkan kita semua
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I amaze with your intention brother. I truly am. thumbup.gif rclxms.gif
I pray that may Allah accept and gives rewards to all the Qada' and all the good deeds that u did.

amin.


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QUOTE(StArk @ Nov 3 2014, 11:58 AM)
Assalamualaikum,

Guys im planing on going umrah next year. Did any of you can recommend/suggest me any agencies that is cheap/excellent for going umrah..

Can you guys also give me any tips on preparation for going umrah?
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I went with CS Travel using Chartered MAS flight.
very comfortable.

You need to start reading do and don'ts at Tanah Haram and during the Umrah and Ihram as well..
It is recommended to attend the half day Umrah course that normally organized by the travel agent.
Also it is good to prepare you body and mind as well.

Also pls always have in mind that you are coming to Mekah and Madinah for ibadah.. spend more time at Masjidil Haram rather than shopping malls.

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QUOTE(fnm83 @ Nov 3 2014, 05:44 PM)
I went with CS Travel using Chartered MAS flight.
very comfortable.

You need to start reading do and don'ts at Tanah Haram and during the Umrah and Ihram as well..
It is recommended to attend the half day Umrah course  that normally organized by the travel agent.
Also it is good to prepare you body and mind as well.

Also pls always have in mind that you not coming to Mekah and Madinah for ibadah.. spend more time at Masjidil Haram rather than shopping malls.
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huh?
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Brothers please watch this.

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QUOTE(fnm83 @ Nov 3 2014, 05:44 PM)
I went with CS Travel using Chartered MAS flight.
very comfortable.

You need to start reading do and don'ts at Tanah Haram and during the Umrah and Ihram as well..
It is recommended to attend the half day Umrah course  that normally organized by the travel agent.
Also it is good to prepare you body and mind as well.

Also pls always have in mind that you are coming to Mekah and Madinah for ibadah.. spend more time at Masjidil Haram rather than shopping malls.
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In sha' Allah.

However, how much is the cost going for umrah?


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QUOTE(dinnor @ Nov 2 2014, 10:11 AM)
salam kawan kawan

saya dilema sekarang
boleh rujuk di forum ini tak?

https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3396828
thanks for reply,
i need to make a quick decision either to go for interview or not.

well, living condition and cost at kl and selangor area are quite though for me
with basic salary just rm 2500  rclxub.gif

so i am thinking to try go for this interview, so still has a chances to live at my hometown at besut terengganu..
the main reason i want to go back there is i think i not up for live challenging in kl and selangor area

if the interviewer know i got higher qualification , they will reject me ?
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2.5 k is low yes, but still can live if you rent a room w roomate...... how many exp do you have now? try to apply for other company.... like scope int.... they give u training aand salary i think around 3.2k... in IT line i think u need to go into developer company to work on proj for exp n recognition.... if u r pro in that field... ppl will find you....
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Assalamualaikum. Nampak thread hngghh, pastu jumpa thread baik. Malu kt raqib klu tekan link silap.. Nice thread, checking in.
Previous questions on recommended scholar, checkout Yasir Qadhi, great historian and authority in seerah. Hooked on his seerah series after listening to his podcast on Massacre of Karbala : http://youtu.be/nm7mKOTZ0qQ
Highly recommended
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I have a fren whose dream is to marry a non-muslim woman

his plan is to converts her, then teach her about Islam after marriage

wat do you think ? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(seiferalmercy @ Nov 13 2014, 09:36 PM)
I have a fren whose dream is to marry a non-muslim woman

his plan is to converts her, then teach her about Islam after marriage

wat do you think ? hmm.gif
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maybe boleh ajak pergi kelas starting from now. see if islam is for her or not, and for her to decide.

la ikro ha fiddin

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QUOTE(seiferalmercy @ Nov 13 2014, 09:36 PM)
I have a fren whose dream is to marry a non-muslim woman

his plan is to converts her, then teach her about Islam after marriage

wat do you think ? hmm.gif
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good. same case like me


i want marry free hair woman want to convert her to ninja

but ppl said kenot. must meri tudung labuh. safety first doh.gif

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insaf aku...baguslah. Good job TS.
InshaAllah ada manfaat.
Latecoming, newbies.
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QUOTE(seiferalmercy @ Nov 13 2014, 09:36 PM)
I have a fren whose dream is to marry a non-muslim woman

his plan is to converts her, then teach her about Islam after marriage

wat do you think ? hmm.gif
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cannot think2..straight to the point, cannot.
before married, find way to teach her.
after her convert, then married.

unless she is 'ahli kitab', that would be another story

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QUOTE(kuikuikuikui @ Nov 14 2014, 09:36 AM)
good. same case like me
i want marry free hair woman want to convert her to ninja

but ppl said kenot. must meri tudung labuh. safety first doh.gif
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lelaki baik untuk perempuan yang baik.

untuk dapat muslimah yang baik make sure diri kita pun baik.

kalau nak didik non muslim atau muslim yang jahil, pastikan kita melaksanakan perintah Agama dengan betul dan istiqamah. takut nanti kita pun turut terjerumus instead of nak buat dia jadi baik.
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(seiferalmercy @ Nov 13 2014, 09:36 PM)
I have a fren whose dream is to marry a non-muslim woman

his plan is to converts her, then teach her about Islam after marriage

wat do you think ?


The intention is good.

Please follow through. Marriage isn't easy.

Your friend should also increase his knowledge in Islam at the same time.

This post has been edited by darium: Nov 14 2014, 09:42 PM
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wow, nice thread here! kudos for ts for the effort and intention, hopefully here will be a good place for any related info sharing/discussion.. smile.gif
will try to lepak here frequently.
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Just sharing......

There are some churches in Indonesia with active missionary movements. Here is recently recorded video in Car Free Day at Jakarta.

Go straight to 14:30 to see direct attempt to convert an old women.



I hope christians everywhere can respect the faith of muslims and don't do any attempt like this. Missionary actions are real........
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QUOTE(Frozen_Sun @ Nov 16 2014, 03:42 AM)
Just sharing......

There are some churches in Indonesia with active missionary movements. Here is recently recorded video in Car Free Day at Jakarta.

Go straight to 14:30 to see direct attempt to convert an old women.

I hope christians everywhere can respect the faith of muslims and don't do any attempt like this. Missionary actions are real........
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the reality is "bring forth your argument is you are truthfull" 27:64 Quran.
it is up to us to bring forth the argument towards them , moslem have forgotten
that our responsibility as moslem is to spread the truth and the truth is "there is no god but ALLAH".
imagine if all our chinese and indians brothers in Malaysia is a Mukmin not muslim but a mukmin smile.gif
what a wonderfull world it might be.

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mari kita semua start solat jemaah

di akhirat kelak, akan ada orang yang masuk neraka, lepas tu orang yang masuk syurga berkata "mereka itu solat bersama kami", dan mereka meminta dari Allah SWT untuk tarik ahli neraka tersebut keluar dari Neraka

kita mungkin masuk neraka atas dosa-dosa kita, tapi macamana kita nak diselamatkan kalau kita tak solat jemaah shocking.gif ? siapa yang kenal kita icon_question.gif ? siapa yang akan kata "mereka solat bersama kami "

mari kita solat jemaah notworthy.gif notworthy.gif notworthy.gif

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"Put your trust in Allah, for Allah loves those who put their trust in Him."
3:159

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Bila kita dah lama taubat dan tinggalkan satu dosa, hati rasa lega blush.gif

semoga Allah S.W.T mengampunkan dosa2 kita dan menambahkan rezeki2 kita
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QUOTE(seiferalmercy @ Oct 26 2014, 11:12 AM)
i was like you once

so shiok sleeping until subuh takkesah.jpg

but recently I realized I have 2920 subuh to Qada' user posted image

Ohwai~

so now tiap- tiap hari solat subuh 2 - 3 kali untuk qada' yg lepas2

semoga Allah mengampunkan kita semua
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wah TS, you really did that?
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QUOTE(seiferalmercy @ Sep 24 2014, 07:58 PM)
"This day I have perfected for you your religion and completed My favor upon you and have approved for you Islam as religion"
Quran 5:3


Assalamualaikum, peace be upon you biggrin.gif

this thread here shall be platform for my fellow brethren to discuss stuff blush.gif  flex.gif

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Rules :

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2. Do not use swear words, do not spread lies, do not spread unproven allegation or reveal other peoples fault. Gunalah kata-kata yang mulia.

3. We do not partake or incite any military, religious, ethnic, sectarian or civil conflict whatsoever. We also do not even incite hate against other groups of people.

4. The purpose of this thread is as a platform for people to talk about Islam in a civilized manner. InshaAllah, ada manfaat dia untuk orang ramai.

5. Sebelum post kan apa2 hadith,, ayat Quran, fatwa, pandangan ulama, sila semak sos dulu.

6. Ingat, ini bukan forum kita, kita menumpang je, jadi jaga sikit tatatertib.
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Assalamualaikum fellow Muslims /k's

I would like to study and understand your opinion on an issue that has been bothering for quite some time now.

Being a Muslim myself, personally, I believe that every one is equal in Islam regardless of age, race and status. However, in Malaysia, we have special rights for a certain race. This would contradict with what I believe in which leads to my issue. And this is a supposedly Islamic country.

So I would like to understand and hopefully find answers from the vast and wide knowledge of the Muslims from K.

PS, serious question no vroom vroom.
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QUOTE(livesnextd00r @ Nov 27 2014, 08:22 AM)
Assalamualaikum fellow Muslims /k's

I would like to study and understand your opinion on an issue that has been bothering for quite some time now.

Being a Muslim myself, personally, I believe that every one is equal in Islam regardless of age, race and status. However, in Malaysia, we have special rights for a certain race. This would contradict with what I believe in which leads to my issue. And this is a supposedly Islamic country.

So I would like to understand and hopefully find answers from the vast and wide knowledge of the Muslims from K.

PS, serious question no vroom vroom.
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i'm no scholar, i'm not pious, i'm nothing.

but i can give a hint: piagam madinah
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QUOTE(seiferalmercy @ Oct 26 2014, 10:12 AM)
i was like you once

so shiok sleeping until subuh takkesah.jpg

but recently I realized I have 2920 subuh to Qada' user posted image

Ohwai~

so now tiap- tiap hari solat subuh 2 - 3 kali untuk qada' yg lepas2

semoga Allah mengampunkan kita semua
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Camne ko kira sampai 2920 subuh ni?
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adala caranya, malu aku nak explain dosa aku unsure.gif
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Nice thread, wished I'd found this sooner. smile.gif

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assalammualaikum! hah

marilah mnjalankan ibadah berlandaskan al-quran dan sunnah
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QUOTE(seiferalmercy @ Nov 13 2014, 09:36 PM)
I have a fren whose dream is to marry a non-muslim woman

his plan is to converts her, then teach her about Islam after marriage

wat do you think ? hmm.gif
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People with knowledge once told me that Al-Quran tell the believers to marry the most righteous women (woman with iman)

Even the Rasullah (peace be upon him) told us to marry women based on these 4 criteria: (i know most people know this)
1)Religion (top priority) <-- Religion as top priority
2)Wealth
3)Beauty
4) family

in conclusion, we must try our best, if we can, to marry most righteous women in islam. (if we can)

so this is my opinion base on the information available to me. Allah know best.. biggrin.gif biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(kuikuikuikui @ Nov 14 2014, 09:36 AM)
good. same case like me
i want marry free hair woman want to convert her to ninja

but ppl said kenot. must meri tudung labuh. safety first doh.gif
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my father also said cannot. he's point of view is based on worst case scenario. i do not agree at first..

however after a long thought.. islam always goes for "prevention is better than cure".

the real question is, are u willing to take the risk of making sin, if when u get married to her and then she reluctant to become ninja?

are u willing to "tanggung" dosa of your wife? does she worst the risk? like u said safety first

Allah Knows Best


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There's a plenty of rooms for them (all of us) to change. We never know where we could be at the end.
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just browsing around youtube site, i found out this video



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=psZBaJU_Cvo#t=88

is this how we as a Muslim should show our good image of Islam to others? sweat.gif hmm.gif ohmy.gif
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QUOTE(dinnor @ Dec 1 2014, 12:45 PM)
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

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never heard banggala/nepal/indo/myammar did those things here
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never heard banggala/nepal/indo/myammar did those things here
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bro, are u stay at britain ?
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bro, are u stay at britain ?
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aaawww..whats wrong?
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QUOTE(dinnor @ Dec 1 2014, 12:45 PM)
just browsing around youtube site, i found out this video



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=psZBaJU_Cvo#t=88

is this how we as a Muslim should show our good image of Islam to others? sweat.gif  hmm.gif  ohmy.gif
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can anyone reply to my inquiries about why those our Muslim brothers at Britain do such act like that ?
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QUOTE(kuikuikuikui @ Nov 14 2014, 09:36 AM)
good. same case like me
i want marry free hair woman want to convert her to ninja

but ppl said kenot. must meri tudung labuh. safety first doh.gif
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i sokong.... i mean tuhan cipta manusia berbagai ouak untuk saling kenal mengenal... y not... of coz la dun expect her to be perfect in one night.. have faith and patient... orang nak cakap apa biar la...
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QUOTE(kurique @ Nov 30 2014, 12:21 PM)
There's a plenty of rooms for them (all of us) to change. We never know where we could be at the end.
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agreed...
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QUOTE(dinnor @ Dec 1 2014, 10:49 PM)
can anyone reply to my inquiries about why those our Muslim brothers at Britain do such act like that ?
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because people like this and Anjam Chowdry is giving Islam a bad reputation. i am still wondering why he is not at guantanamo untill now with his radicals views and supporters.

But then again its people like this that is fueling the stereotype of islamophobes of what being a moslem really is (angry and inhumane towards other people).

i still wonder how much were they paid to potray islam in such a way , or do they really believe that this is what being a moslem really is.

the Messenger was sent to perfected the Morals of human beings and being compassionate to one another i wonder how they can achieve that by being angry and violence towards other human beings.
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QUOTE(ralfvi @ Dec 1 2014, 10:59 PM)
because people like this and Anjam Chowdry is giving Islam a bad reputation. i am still wondering why he is not at guantanamo untill now with his radicals views and supporters.

But then again its people like this that is fueling the stereotype of islamophobes of what being a moslem really is (angry and inhumane towards other people).

i still wonder how much were they paid to potray islam in such a way , or do they really believe that this is what being a moslem really is.

the Messenger was sent to perfected the Morals of human beings and being compassionate to one another i wonder how they can achieve that by being angry and violence towards other human beings.
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those that joined the road demonstration; who are they actually? immigrates from india pakistan ? arab country?
as far as i know, there as some Islamic group that active in Britain , such as tablighi jamaat, but those from tablighi jamaat usually didn't joined those activities ...

maybe from shia group? im doubt it ..

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QUOTE(dinnor @ Dec 1 2014, 11:09 PM)
those that joined the road demonstration; who are they actually? immigrates from india pakistan ? arab country?
as far as i know, there as some Islamic group that active in Britain , such as tablighi jamaat, but those from tablighi jamaat usually didn't joined those activities ...

maybe from shia group? im doubt it ..
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i dont know and they always bring those placard of holocaust / killing non moslem / beheading / conquering europe .
weirdly enuff the police didnt do anything against them. Im more than happy if the uk police just lock them up rather then let them loose and tarnish moslem image like that.

walid shoebat make millions by giving lectures that islam will behead you and your children. shakehead.gif

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QUOTE(ralfvi @ Dec 2 2014, 12:06 AM)
i dont know and they always bring those placard of holocaust / killing non moslem / beheading / conquering europe .
weirdly enuff the police didnt do anything against them. Im more than happy if the uk police just lock them up rather then let them loose and tarnish moslem image like that.

walid shoebat make millions by giving lectures that islam will behead you and your children. shakehead.gif

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so do you think that demonstrations are made up by some people to tarnish Islam and Muslim image? hmm.gif unsure.gif
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QUOTE(mambangafro @ Dec 2 2014, 12:32 AM)
Assalammualaikomwarohmatullahwbkth
Jadi saya nak tanya kalian kalian semua adakah kalian semua mengaji Quran tapi hanya tau baca kosong walaupun betul tajwidnya?

Rasanya buku teks pendidikan Islam takdakan tunjuk terjemahan ayat?cuba lebih pada nak kasi reti baca arab dengan betul dan kasi pass lisan PAFA?

Sebab saya x cekap,terus terang..tu yang saya suka baca yang ada terjemahan

Saya tak pandai baca arab tu yang saya time sekolah convert dalam bentuk rumi (qul ya ayyuhal kafiruun)
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nak tahu makna, saya buka terjemaahan
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QUOTE(mambangafro @ Dec 2 2014, 12:32 AM)
Assalammualaikomwarohmatullahwbkth
Jadi saya nak tanya kalian kalian semua adakah kalian semua mengaji Quran tapi hanya tau baca kosong walaupun betul tajwidnya?

Rasanya buku teks pendidikan Islam takdakan tunjuk terjemahan ayat?cuba lebih pada nak kasi reti baca arab dengan betul dan kasi pass lisan PAFA?

Sebab saya x cekap,terus terang..tu yang saya suka baca yang ada terjemahan

Saya tak pandai baca arab tu yang saya time sekolah convert dalam bentuk rumi (qul ya ayyuhal kafiruun)
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waalaikumsalam wbt

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saya baca translation Quran Yusuf Ali

tiap kali baca rasa seram sejuk, jadi insap sekejap cry.gif
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QUOTE(dinnor @ Dec 2 2014, 12:25 AM)
so do you think that demonstrations are made up by some people to tarnish Islam and Muslim image? hmm.gif  unsure.gif
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i cant really tell , but all i can say is that is not the teaching of our beloved messenger Peace be upon him.
and the muslim and islam does not have any advantage by having moslem behaving that way more damaging and a disadvantage to moslem and islam.


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Dulu ada king. .prime minister. ..finance minister. .YB..put rock on the stomach to tackle hungriness. He is peace be upon him prophet Muhammad.
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QUOTE(kuikuikuikui @ Dec 3 2014, 06:44 PM)
Dulu ada king. .prime minister. ..finance minister. .YB..put rock on the stomach to tackle hungriness. He is  peace be upon him prophet Muhammad.
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and his companion, who blew off oil lamp when his son wants to discuss personal issue because the oil is from government money, Umar Al Khattab RA.
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and his companion, who blew off oil lamp when his son wants to discuss personal issue because the oil is from government money, Umar Al Khattab RA.
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QUOTE(ralfvi @ Dec 2 2014, 03:21 PM)
i cant really tell , but all i can say is that is not the teaching of our beloved messenger Peace be upon him.
and the muslim and islam does not have any advantage by having moslem behaving that way more damaging and a disadvantage to moslem and islam.


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ISyaAllah!!
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lu wa mia kawan dalam /k
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QUOTE(seiferalmercy @ Dec 4 2014, 07:28 PM)
dont troll other religion please

lu wa mia kawan dalam /k
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apa troll
saya respect your god la
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apa troll
saya respect your god la
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then say it properly

InshaAllah

it means God willing

e.g InshaAllah, I will arrive to KL this evening
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QUOTE(seiferalmercy @ Dec 4 2014, 07:59 PM)
then say it properly

InshaAllah

it means God willing

e.g InshaAllah, I will arrive to KL this evening
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bukan Isya Allah ke? hmm.gif
i learn this from germany turkey guy
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QUOTE(seiferalmercy @ Dec 4 2014, 07:59 PM)
then say it properly

InshaAllah

it means God willing

e.g InshaAllah, I will arrive to KL this evening
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bukan Isya Allah ke? hmm.gif
i learn this from germany turkey guy
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QUOTE(meistsh_musical @ Dec 4 2014, 07:03 PM)
bukan Isya Allah ke?  hmm.gif
i learn this from germany turkey guy
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well u heard it wrong or he told u wrong
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QUOTE(seiferalmercy @ Dec 4 2014, 08:08 PM)
well u heard it wrong or he told u wrong
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spelling I-sya
got y sound

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QUOTE(meistsh_musical @ Dec 4 2014, 07:19 PM)
spelling I-sya
got y sound
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sha


eg. "shariah"

the shh sound

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QUOTE(seiferalmercy @ Dec 4 2014, 08:23 PM)
sha
eg. "shariah"

the shh sound
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Isha Allah!!!
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Isha Allah!!!
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u forgot the "in"

"in"sha Allah
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Insha Allah!!!

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kalau aku tengok Islam melalui orang-orang Islam
pastilah aku menjadi kafir yang paling tegar menentang Islam"

terharu dga ayat ni
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sup /k

tiap tiap hari duk pk pasal benda tu

tp takde duit, plak tu takde orang nak

ohwai dry.gif


takde kena mengena samada hidup atau mati
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QUOTE(seiferalmercy @ Dec 5 2014, 12:11 PM)
sup /k

tiap tiap hari duk pk pasal benda tu

tp takde duit, plak tu takde orang nak

ohwai  dry.gif
takde kena mengena samada hidup atau mati
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kalau masa dah sampai, ada la tu....
kalau dah ditetapkan ada, tak kemana la tu....
kalau niat dah ada, insyallah dipermudahkan jalan....
kalau sudah mahu, bersiap-sedia lah apa yg patut....
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can i know what is syukur Allahhandulilah?
sorry i dunno spelling
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can i know what is syukur Allahhandulilah?
sorry i dunno spelling
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it's spelled Alhamdulillah
Alhamdulillah = all praise to Allah
in daily conversation when u hear somebody says syukur alhamdulillah, it means "thank you God, all praise to Allah"

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QUOTE(miaopurr @ Dec 5 2014, 11:01 PM)
all praise to Allah
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conversation like this
me: saya harap saya dapat payment minggu ini
staff: syukur allah...... rclxub.gif
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conversation like this
me: saya harap saya dapat payment minggu ini
staff: syukur allah......  rclxub.gif
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u boss?
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u boss?
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business man...
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i guess ur staff understands that u'll be receiving payment this month. so that's good news, yes? so ur staff is thankful to Allah.
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QUOTE(miaopurr @ Dec 5 2014, 11:10 PM)
i guess ur staff understands that u'll be receiving payment this month. so that's good news, yes? so ur staff is thankful to Allah.
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"aku mencari Islam sendiri,
kalau aku tengok Islam melalui orang-orang Islam
pastilah aku menjadi kafir yang paling tegar menentang Islam"

terharu dga ayat ni
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salam saudara-saudaraku

kenapa surah At-Taubah tidak dimulakan dengan Bismillah ? hmm.gif
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salam saudara-saudaraku

kenapa surah At-Taubah tidak dimulakan dengan Bismillah ? hmm.gif
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Basmalah dan surah AL-Taubah
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what do you think of what drM said?
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what do you think of what drM said?
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saya tidak arif tentang isu ini. tidak tahu macam mana cara/syarat untuk execute the islamic penal law. but two things i'm sure of:

1. bukan boleh simply execute the hudud law onto the pesalah
2. kalau tak buat salah, kenapa nak takut?

"keadilan" is just too cheap a word thrown about nowadays. well connected ppl allegedly do crimes, and they get away scot-free. is that adil? normal lowly citizen vent out their anger towards racial discrimination, n they get maximum punishment n reprimanded. meanwhile those higher ups throw hateful racial speech, and nothing. adil?

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QUOTE(miaopurr @ Dec 8 2014, 10:35 PM)
saya tidak arif tentang isu ini. tidak tahu macam mana cara/syarat untuk execute the islamic penal law. but two things i'm sure of:

1. bukan boleh simply execute the hudud law onto the pesalah
2. kalau tak buat salah, kenapa nak takut?

"keadilan" is just too cheap a word thrown about nowadays. well connected ppl allegedly do crimes, and they get away scot-free. is that adil? normal lowly citizen vent out their anger towards racial discrimination, n they get maximum punishment n reprimanded. meanwhile those higher ups throw hateful racial speech, and nothing. adil?
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yup. betul. nak laksanakan mesti kena adil.. cuma statement drM tu buatkan aku terfikir mana lagi besar dlm islam

keadilan>hudud
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hudud>keadilan
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QUOTE(tentang rasa @ Dec 8 2014, 11:17 PM)
yup. betul. nak laksanakan mesti kena adil.. cuma statement drM tu buatkan aku terfikir mana lagi besar dlm islam

keadilan>hudud
or
hudud>keadilan
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errr.... hudud not adil?

edit: u mean, adil as in the context muslims n non-muslims should have common set of laws? the law should be blind of religion?

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errr.... hudud not adil?
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hudud tu adil
cuma cara pelaksanaan nye tu
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hudud tu adil
cuma cara pelaksanaan nye tu
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so... u want hudud to be applied on muslims n non-muslims alike?
or just shelve the hudud bcoz we can't impose on non-muslims?

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QUOTE(tentang rasa @ Dec 8 2014, 10:28 PM)


what do you think of what drM said?
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QUOTE(miaopurr @ Dec 8 2014, 10:35 PM)
saya tidak arif tentang isu ini. tidak tahu macam mana cara/syarat untuk execute the islamic penal law. but two things i'm sure of:

1. bukan boleh simply execute the hudud law onto the pesalah
2. kalau tak buat salah, kenapa nak takut?

"keadilan" is just too cheap a word thrown about nowadays. well connected ppl allegedly do crimes, and they get away scot-free. is that adil? normal lowly citizen vent out their anger towards racial discrimination, n they get maximum punishment n reprimanded. meanwhile those higher ups throw hateful racial speech, and nothing. adil?
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QUOTE(tentang rasa @ Dec 8 2014, 11:17 PM)
yup. betul. nak laksanakan mesti kena adil.. cuma statement drM tu buatkan aku terfikir mana lagi besar dlm islam

keadilan>hudud
or
hudud>keadilan
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QUOTE(miaopurr @ Dec 8 2014, 11:21 PM)
errr.... hudud not adil?
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please , please watch this video.

hudud main aim is a deterence not to punish.
and you need to a pious society to implement it.
until then ....start educating and implementing others parts of islam.
even the Messenger of Allah ask the man who ask to be punish by Hudud to go away.
and even when theres a punishment for fornication and the man ran away but the people gave chase to him and punish him till death... the Messenger of Allah said ; you should let him be (not chase him and punish him untill death)

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QUOTE(ralfvi @ Dec 8 2014, 11:27 PM)
please , please watch this video.

hudud main aim is a deterence not to punish.
and you need to a pious society to implement it.
until then ....start educating and implementing others parts of islam.
even the Messenger of Allah ask the man who ask to be punish by Hudud to go away.
and even when theres a punishment for fornication and the man ran away but the people gave chase to him and punish him till death... the Messenger of Allah said ; you should let him be (not chase him and punish him untill death)
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like i said earlier, can't just simply execute hudud.
i know there are many factors to be considered beforehand.
the discussion was, hudud can't be implemented because there will be two sets of laws.

if the discussion was, should we implement hudud right here right now coz it is the solution to all maladies of today's society, then the argument would be different
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QUOTE(miaopurr @ Dec 8 2014, 11:27 PM)
so... u want hudud to be applied on muslims n non-muslims alike?
or just shelve the hudud bcoz we can't impose on non-muslims?
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from what i knew it must be applied to non muslim too
maybe applied later?

maaf kalau silap
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QUOTE(tentang rasa @ Dec 8 2014, 11:34 PM)
from what i knew it must be applied to non muslim too
maybe applied later?

maaf kalau silap
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hmm.gif tak pernah plak dengar like dat....
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environment negara sekarang ni menyebabkan akan berlakunya ketidakadilan yang amat sangat jika hudud dijalankan


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hmm.gif  tak pernah plak dengar like dat....
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i watched it last time and it said so if im not mistaken

and about 2 sets of laws the current laws still remain, cuma nak cover hukuman yg ada dalam hudud
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QUOTE(miaopurr @ Dec 8 2014, 11:31 PM)
like i said earlier, can't just simply execute hudud.
i know there are many factors to be considered beforehand.
the discussion was, hudud can't be implemented because there will be two sets of laws.

if the discussion was, should we implement hudud right here right now coz it is the solution to all maladies of today's society, then the argument would be different
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the thing is we cant implement it here , even if we do it wont follow what its design for in the Quran.
like i said the law is as a deterence rather than a punishment.
even one sheikh said
"that it is better that 12 guilty man gets away rather than 1 innocent man being punish"
either way they will be judge by the kings of kings , the true justice of all justice one day.
that is if you believe in the hereafter.nobody gets away.




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QUOTE(tentang rasa @ Dec 8 2014, 11:46 PM)
i watched it last time and it said so if im not mistaken

and about 2 sets of laws the current laws still remain, cuma nak cover hukuman yg ada dalam hudud
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u mean, nak cover hukuman yg TIADA dalam hudud?

wah... panjangnya video... sori la tak tengok. tapi the last time i watched a penerangan video on youtube, and the conversation went like a guy asking how can u implement hudud on non-muslims? and another fella explained, kenot la... how can u impose an islamic law onto a person who does not even practice islam (non-muslim). kira macam tu... that's my understanding.
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QUOTE(miaopurr @ Dec 9 2014, 12:00 AM)
u mean, nak cover hukuman yg TIADA dalam hudud?

wah... panjangnya video... sori la tak tengok. tapi the last time i watched a penerangan video on youtube, and the conversation went like a guy asking how can u implement hudud on non-muslims? and another fella explained, kenot la... how can u impose an islamic law onto a person who does not even practice islam (non-muslim). kira macam tu... that's my understanding.
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later if you got time to spend i suggest u watch thumbup.gif
yup.. yg tiada dalam hudud sweat.gif
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QUOTE(tentang rasa @ Dec 9 2014, 12:15 AM)
later if you got time to spend i suggest u watch thumbup.gif
yup.. yg tiada dalam hudud sweat.gif
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we have takzir and qisas.

takzir is basically everything that is not covered by hudud and Qisas is the law regarding murder.

and there is no compulsion in embracing Islam so I don't believe in forcing our believe onto others.
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QUOTE(samuraikacang @ Dec 9 2014, 08:42 AM)
we have takzir and qisas.

takzir is basically everything that is not covered by hudud and Qisas is the law regarding murder.

and there is no compulsion in embracing Islam so I don't believe in forcing our believe onto others.
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thumbup.gif

More like being an example and showing how wonderful Islam is. As what our beloved Rasulullah SAW always does. And we're totally NOT doing that in general nowadays. Sigh.
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QUOTE(PVCpipe @ Dec 9 2014, 06:30 PM)
bought a shoes that uses synthetic pig lining.... from my understanding, its not an issue since its fake... discuss..
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ask yourself would you eat a fake char siew?
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bought a shoes that uses synthetic pig lining.... from my understanding, its not an issue since its fake... discuss..
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If its not pig, dont by all means wear it la. Just dont go tell ppl it is, or somewhat 'show' its pig lining.
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QUOTE(samuraikacang @ Dec 9 2014, 07:45 PM)
ask yourself would you eat a fake char siew?
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if the meat is beef yes... like i use char siew recipe but subtitue some engridient
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synthetic pig lining means not pig ?

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Salam Jumaat guys
Don't forget Al-Kahfi

Happy productive weekend!
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Salam Jumaat guys
Don't forget Al-Kahfi

Happy productive weekend!
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so frustrating seeing /k degenerating very quickly when it involves islamic topics. hope my brothers refrain from making unneeded remarks.
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QUOTE(ralfvi @ Dec 10 2014, 12:27 AM)
synthetic pig lining means not pig  ?
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I guess yes.. But they try to fshipn it like pig skin... Got the 3 dots marking...
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bila ada topik mengenai islam ,mesti boleh sampai page 6,7 bashing nya ..
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QUOTE(mamata @ Dec 13 2014, 09:57 PM)
bila ada topik mengenai islam ,mesti boleh sampai page 6,7 bashing nya ..
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Nak buat macamana, itu lah realitinya di lowyat forum

kekadang tak related langsung dengan Islam, tapi sebab nak bash punya pasal terus jadi related

kita bersabar je la..at the same time kita defend diri kita dengan hujah2

tapi jangan kita tiru mereka, kita jangan mencerca atau mencaci atau memberi nama2 yang tidak elok kepada mereka

semoga Allah S.W.T memberi kita pahala atas kesabaran kita, dan semoga dalam ramai2 yang dok hentam kita, ada yang diberi petunjuk dan hidayah

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QUOTE(ainuddin @ Dec 13 2014, 02:44 PM)
so frustrating seeing /k degenerating very quickly when it involves islamic topics. hope my brothers refrain from making unneeded remarks.
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I noticed long ago that any discussion about Islam in /k is always fueled by deep-seated hate

we can only watch with patience, the Prophet himself faced much worse hatred from the early Arab community

we pray that Allah rewards us with Jannah and blot out our sins for our patience



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Sabda Rasulullah SAW: “Sesiapa membaca surah Al-Ikhlas sekali, dikurniakan kepadanya pahala seperti pahala orang yang membaca 1/3 Al-Quran.”

Sabda Rasulullah SAW: “Sesiapa membaca surah Al-Ikhlas sebanyak 3 kali nescaya mendapat pahala seperti pahala orang yang membaca Al-Quran sekali khatam.”

Membaca surah Al-Ikhlas sekali ganjarannya sama dengan membaca 10 jus kitab Al-Quran. Lalu dengan membaca surah Al-Ikhlas sebanyak tiga kali khatamlah Quran kerana ianya sama dengan membaca 30 jus Al-Quran. Rasululllah SAW bersabda: “Sesiapa yang membaca 10 kali surah Al-Ikhlas siang dan malam; Maka Allah memberinya sebuah istana dalam syurga.” (HR: Imam Ahmad & Imam Adarimi.)

Diriwayatkan pula dari Ali bin Abi Talib, katanya, Rasululllah SAW bersabda: “Sesiapa yang membaca surah al-Ikhlas 10 kali selepas solat Subuh, maka ia tidak akan tergelincir sekalipun syaitan memperdayanya dengan sungguh-sungguh.”
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QUOTE(rajakingkong @ Dec 14 2014, 02:16 AM)
Sabda Rasulullah SAW: “Sesiapa membaca surah Al-Ikhlas sekali, dikurniakan kepadanya pahala seperti pahala orang yang membaca 1/3 Al-Quran.”

Sabda Rasulullah SAW: “Sesiapa membaca surah Al-Ikhlas sebanyak 3 kali nescaya mendapat pahala seperti pahala orang yang membaca Al-Quran sekali khatam.”

Membaca surah Al-Ikhlas sekali ganjarannya sama dengan membaca 10 jus kitab Al-Quran. Lalu dengan membaca surah Al-Ikhlas sebanyak tiga kali khatamlah Quran kerana ianya sama dengan membaca 30 jus Al-Quran. Rasululllah SAW bersabda: “Sesiapa yang membaca 10 kali surah Al-Ikhlas siang dan malam; Maka Allah memberinya sebuah istana dalam syurga.” (HR: Imam Ahmad & Imam Adarimi.)

Diriwayatkan pula dari Ali bin Abi Talib, katanya, Rasululllah SAW bersabda: “Sesiapa yang membaca surah al-Ikhlas 10 kali selepas solat Subuh, maka ia tidak akan tergelincir sekalipun syaitan memperdayanya dengan sungguh-sungguh.”
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Salam..
nak tanya sikit.
Is it okay ke kalau baca al-quran ikut terjemahan(bahasa melayu)?
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but zionism surely is bad
"the world thinks the more jewish(religious) you are, the more zionist you are, in fact it is an opposite"
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QUOTE(WickyWeeky @ Dec 15 2014, 01:23 AM)
Salam..
nak tanya sikit.
Is it okay ke kalau baca al-quran ikut terjemahan(bahasa melayu)?
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bergantung kpd keadaan..
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QUOTE(WickyWeeky @ Dec 15 2014, 01:23 AM)
Salam..
nak tanya sikit.
Is it okay ke kalau baca al-quran ikut terjemahan(bahasa melayu)?
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For better understanding, by all means.
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QUOTE(seiferalmercy @ Dec 14 2014, 12:33 AM)
I noticed long ago that any discussion about Islam in /k is always fueled by deep-seated hate

we can only watch with patience, the Prophet himself faced much worse hatred from the early Arab community

we pray that Allah rewards us with Jannah and blot out our sins for our patience
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"And the servants of the Most Merciful are those who walk upon the earth with humility, and when the ignorant address them [harshly], they say :"peace" 25:63

"Believers, do not take for intimate friends from among others than your own people. They like to mislead you and see that you are seriously harmed. Signs of animosity from their mouths have already become audible, but what they hide in their hearts is even worse. We have certainly made Our evidence clear, if only you would consider it" 3:118

anyway orang tua2 kata "sediakan payung sebelum hujan"













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TL:DW but I recommend you guys to watch this especially in the light of ISIS, Sydney and possibly the Belgium incident.

Towards the end, Yasir Qadhi explains on the Kaabah being taken hostage, how the writings of the kaabah hostage taker Juhayman does not signal his future endeavour, his writing seems perfectly normal, his speech is true but his actions are quite the contrast of what he preaches.

Juhayman is a modern day example of a Khawarij. I would be convinced that ISIS would be the same.

Please take your time to watch this very good explanation.





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"And the servants of the Most Merciful are those who walk upon the earth with humility, and when the ignorant address them [harshly], they say :"peace" 25:63

"Believers, do not take for intimate friends from among others than your own people. They like to mislead you and see that you are seriously harmed. Signs of animosity from their mouths have already become audible, but what they hide in their hearts is even worse. We have certainly made Our evidence clear, if only you would consider it" 3:118

anyway orang tua2 kata "sediakan payung sebelum hujan"
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QUOTE(PVCpipe @ Dec 15 2014, 07:56 PM)
bergantung kpd keadaan..
laugh.gif Untuk pemahaman lanjut pun kena bergantung kepada keadaan? Tolong maafkan kejahilan saya kalau tersilap ataupun tersalah cakap.
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QUOTE(Joey Christensen @ Dec 16 2014, 05:17 PM)
laugh.gif Untuk pemahaman lanjut pun kena bergantung kepada keadaan? Tolong maafkan kejahilan saya kalau tersilap ataupun tersalah cakap.
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kalau dia maksudkan mcam baca fatihah dlm bahasa melayu dlm sembahyang, tak boleh la... baca terjemahan boleh je

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kalau dia maksudkan mcam baca fatihah dlm bahasa melayu dlm sembahyang, tak boleh la... baca terjemahan  boleh je
Oh...Saya baca dan selepas membaca, saya keliru. laugh.gif

"...required of every Muslim is to be able to read surat Al-Fatihah and some other passages of the Qur'an in Arabic to enable him/her to offer his/her prayers. The entire prayer, including the Qur’anic portions, haven’t been allowed to be recited in one’s own language, because translations are a human effort which may or may not be accurate. Even if a translation is very good, it still cannot take the position of the original Qur’anic text, which is the very word of God. The problems created by the translations in the Biblical text are for us to see as to why it cannot be left to the translations to replace the Qur’an in the formal prayers and even otherwise.

Indeed when we recite the Qur’an, we should read the translation as well. There is no point in reading the Arabic text of the Qur’an if one is not understanding it. The Qur’an has come to guide mankind; and if it is not understood while being read, it is not serving the purpose for which it was revealed. I therefore agree with those people who say that one should understand the meanings of the Qur’an when one is reading it."

Baca Qur’an tetapi tidak faham. Kenapa baca penterjemahan (dalam bahasa selain dari bahasa Arab)? I quote, "...because translations are a human effort which may or may not be accurate. Even if a translation is very good, it still cannot take the position of the original Qur’anic text, which is the very word of God."


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QUOTE(Joey Christensen @ Dec 16 2014, 05:50 PM)
Oh...Saya baca dan selepas membaca, saya keliru. laugh.gif

"...required of every Muslim is to be able to read surat Al-Fatihah and some other passages of the Qur'an in Arabic to enable him/her to offer his/her prayers.  The entire prayer, including the Qur’anic portions, haven’t been allowed to be recited in one’s own language, because translations are a human effort which may or may not be accurate. Even if a translation is very good, it still cannot take the position of the original Qur’anic text, which is the very word of God. The problems created by the translations in the Biblical text are for us to see as to why it cannot be left to the translations to replace the Qur’an in the formal prayers and even otherwise.

Indeed when we recite the Qur’an, we should read the translation as well. There is no point in reading the Arabic text of the Qur’an if one is not understanding it. The Qur’an has come to guide mankind; and if it is not understood while being read, it is not serving the purpose for which it was revealed. I therefore agree with those people who say that one should understand the meanings of the Qur’an when one is reading it."

Baca Qur’an tetapi tidak faham. Kenapa baca penterjemahan (dalam bahasa selain dari bahasa Arab)? I quote, "...because translations are a human effort which may or may not be accurate. Even if a translation is very good, it still cannot take the position of the original Qur’anic text, which is the very word of God."
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which is why dont pandai2 traslate sendiri... i mean kalau betul2 nak faham kena belajar ngan guru
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QUOTE(PVCpipe @ Dec 16 2014, 06:10 PM)
which is why dont pandai2 traslate sendiri... i mean kalau betul2 nak faham kena belajar ngan guru
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Exactly. Hehe.

Kalau kita membaca kitab tanpa guru, syaitan akan jd guru kita. Walaupun kitab Al-Quran.

Best example? Benz Ali
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Exactly. Hehe.

Kalau kita membaca kitab tanpa guru, syaitan akan jd guru kita. Walaupun kitab Al-Quran.

Best example? Benz Ali
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kalau kita membaca kitab tanpa guru, syaitan akan jadi guru

ini bukan hadith ye, ini macam kata pujangga, peribahasa

sekadar peringatan untuk semua
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kalau kita membaca kitab tanpa guru, syaitan akan jadi guru

ini bukan hadith ye, ini macam kata pujangga, peribahasa

sekadar peringatan untuk semua
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Oh...Saya baca dan selepas membaca, saya keliru. laugh.gif

"...required of every Muslim is to be able to read surat Al-Fatihah and some other passages of the Qur'an in Arabic to enable him/her to offer his/her prayers.  The entire prayer, including the Qur’anic portions, haven’t been allowed to be recited in one’s own language, because translations are a human effort which may or may not be accurate. Even if a translation is very good, it still cannot take the position of the original Qur’anic text, which is the very word of God. The problems created by the translations in the Biblical text are for us to see as to why it cannot be left to the translations to replace the Qur’an in the formal prayers and even otherwise.

Indeed when we recite the Qur’an, we should read the translation as well. There is no point in reading the Arabic text of the Qur’an if one is not understanding it. The Qur’an has come to guide mankind; and if it is not understood while being read, it is not serving the purpose for which it was revealed. I therefore agree with those people who say that one should understand the meanings of the Qur’an when one is reading it."

Baca Qur’an tetapi tidak faham. Kenapa baca penterjemahan (dalam bahasa selain dari bahasa Arab)? I quote, "...because translations are a human effort which may or may not be accurate. Even if a translation is very good, it still cannot take the position of the original Qur’anic text, which is the very word of God."
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many good tafseer in youtube.
especially nouman ali khans work.
easy to understand and greatly detailed.

btw theres talaqi classes in masjid ghufran pinggiran TTDI every saturday morning 10am

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Hello. just want to ask will this bring any problem from JAIS or any religious body to my Muslim friend.

Me and my gang of friends always hang out at a Christian Friend house( out of 8 got 5 Muslims ). We usually just play video games and watch movie only because he got huge ass TV and PS4.

However, the house we always hang out got many Christian symbols such as the cross and Jesus portrait.Quite noticeable from the outside.

The Christian friend's family respect the Muslims and do not do any converting things to them and they are also close friends with the Muslim friend's parents.

The Muslim friend's parents is comfortable letting their sons to the Christian home as they believe their son's faith will not be easily converted and just go there to have fun.

The problem is with the other Muslim neighbours , they always dislike out Muslim's friend to go to the Christian house and even scold them and their family , "Nanti Anak Jadi Murtad baru tahu" , "Apa muslihat sebenar kamu selalu ajak orang kita masuk rumah Kristan ?"

I wonder if one day they will complain and JAIS will raid ? (issit this easy to do ?) or We should just ignore the neighbours.

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QUOTE(king99 @ Dec 17 2014, 10:15 PM)
Hello. just want to ask will this bring any problem from JAIS or any religious body to my Muslim friend.

Me and my gang of friends always hang out at a Christian Friend house( out of 8 got 5 Muslims ). We usually just play video games and watch movie only because he got huge ass TV and PS4.

However, the house we always hang out got many Christian symbols such as the cross and Jesus portrait.Quite noticeable from the outside.

The Christian friend's family respect the Muslims and do not do any converting things to them and they are also close friends with the Muslim friend's parents.

The Muslim friend's parents is comfortable letting their sons to the Christian home as they believe their son's faith will not be easily converted and just go there to have fun.

The problem is with the other Muslim neighbours , they always dislike out Muslim's friend to go to the Christian house and even scold them and their family , "Nanti Anak Jadi Murtad baru tahu" , "Apa muslihat sebenar kamu selalu ajak orang kita masuk rumah Kristan ?"

I wonder if one day they will complain and JAIS will raid ? (issit this easy to do ?) or We should just ignore the neighbours.
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Ignore them, they're just paranoid

if(and thats a BIG "IF") any enforcement agency raid that place on unfounded basis like this, they can be sued in a court of law, and you have very high chance of winning too
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Ignore them, they're just paranoid

if(and thats a BIG "IF") any enforcement agency raid that place on unfounded basis like this, they can be sued in a court of law, and you have very high chance of winning too
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Ok Thx , sometimes I cannot understand why some people is ultra paranoid and can make fuss out of simple stuff. Or maybe they just jelly of the 55 inch TV and PS4 haha sweat.gif
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your friends all guy or mix?
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salam bro

haha i tot u r non muslim
gonna be hard to live with your current orientation
have consult ustaz or any reliable religious officer?
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salam bro

haha i tot u r non muslim
gonna be hard to live with your current orientation
have consult ustaz or any reliable religious officer?
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I don't think it will do any good consulting with any ustaz or religious officer. Its better for him just to have faith in Allah SWT. Allah SWT know His creation well. As your signature puts it, cukuplah Allah sebagai tempat berserah diri.
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QUOTE(WinkyJr @ Dec 18 2014, 05:35 PM)
salam bro

haha i tot u r non muslim
gonna be hard to live with your current orientation
have consult ustaz or any reliable religious officer?
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QUOTE(samuraikacang @ Dec 18 2014, 05:54 PM)
I don't think it will do any good consulting with any ustaz or religious officer. Its better for him just to have faith in Allah SWT. Allah SWT know His creation well.  As your signature puts it, cukuplah Allah sebagai tempat berserah diri.
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Wkmsalam.

IMO, its better if you consult an ustaz, or at least someone with good knowledge AND can guide you. Some people will be judgemental and negative, yes, thats fitrah for some people, but push that aside and focus on your goal, do it one step at a time. Slowly and surely.
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Wkmsalam.

IMO, its better if you consult an ustaz, or at least someone with good knowledge AND can guide you. Some people will be judgemental and negative, yes, thats fitrah for some people, but push that aside and focus on your goal, do it one step at a time. Slowly and surely.
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Its better to hide one's sins than to boast it. Consulting an ustaz will probably exposing to others that you have sinned even if you are not people will speculate.

A good answer on this issue

http://islam.com/s/20922/should-you-hide-y...ired-about-them
http://www.bakkah.net/en/ummah-excused-exc...ns-benefits.htm

Salaam brother, It is a good question that you have asked as all of us are inclined to sin to a lesser or greater degree but true, honest repentance is the best way. We know that we are not to disclose our own wrong doings and those of others. A general principle in Islamic law is that it is sinful to reveal one’s past sins. One must keep them concealed, as sincere repentance (which includes not repeating them) wipes them out and so it is as if the person never committed them.

Abu Hurayrah (may Allaah be pleased with him) said:
I heard the Messenger of Allaah (sallallaahu ‘alayhe wa sallam) saying:
“All of my ummah will be excused, except for the mujaahireen (those who make their sins known). And verily it is a kind of mujaaharah (exposing one’s sins) that a man does something (sinful) at night, and then in the morning, when Allaah has screened his sin for him, he says, ‘Hey So and-So! I did such-and- such last night…’ And the night passed with His Lord screening him, and he wakes up casting aside the screen of Allaah from himself.”

If we see or hear about someone else committing a sin, we should always try to ignore it. Instead of spreading it, we should hide it and keep it a secret. It is reported that the Prophet Mu'hammad sallallahu 'alaihi wa sallam has said:
Whosoever covers (the sins of) a Muslim, Allah covers (his sins) on the Day of Judgment. (Reported by Bukhari)
If we find it too difficult to keep it secret, the most we are allowed to do is discuss the issue with the person, in private, and try to encourage them to stop committing the sin(s).

The only exception to this is if we find out that someone has committed an actual crime that has left someone injured (emotionally, physically and including sexual abuse) or killed, or in which something was stolen or someone was denied something to which they were entitled to. In these cases, we MUST make the information public so that the person is brought to justice.
Allah has said:
The believers, men and women, are Auliya’ (helpers, supporters, friends, protectors) of one another, they enjoin Al-Ma’ruf (i.e. Islamic Monotheism and all that Islam orders one to do), and they forbid (people) from Al-Munkar (i.e. polytheism and disbelief of all kinds, and all that Islam has forbidden). (Quran, 71:9)

Minor sins (saghaa’ir) are expiated for by doing acts of worship and by avoiding major sins (kabaa’ir), because of the following evidence (daleel):
Allaah SWT has said:
If you avoid the great sins which you are forbidden to do, We shall expiate from you your (small) sins, and admit you to a Noble Entrance (i.e. Paradise) (Quran, 4:31)

This in no way implicates that one should feel confident about doing minor sins. In the repentance and asking for forgiveness from Alaah SWT, it is under the condition that it is a true, earnest regret and is not repeated. The way we live our lives, we have to try our best to keep confidentiality a priory. If we share everything with everyone, we will face consequences in this life and in the hereafter.
Allah SWT says:
Allah loves those who turn to Him constantly (for forgiveness) and He loves those who keep themselves pure and clean. (Quran, 2:222)

So to answer your question, if someone asks you whether you use to ever drink, you cannot answer in the affirmative. Rather, you should answer by an indirect answer, like,
- Why would any Muslim drink?
- Or, Alhamdulillah, Allah SWT protected me from that.
- It is not something that I think is wise. Look at what Alaah SWT tells us about it.
If such an indirect answer does not come to your mind, it would be permitted (or, rather, necessary) to lie and deny this.
Why?
The reason being is because of what sin is:
It is that which Allah hates, and may punish its doer for in the Hereafter. Sins go against the very purpose of the creation of humanity, which is to know and worship Allah.

If you examine sins, all of them either entail or lead to social harms.
When people start talking about sins, they lose their gravity and people start thinking (even if only subconsciously) that it is not all that bad to sin. Oh look, my brother/sister used to do this....they tried it... I want to try too. This especially applies to younger, easily influenced people who are still trying to find their way through all that they see and hear. It can be a very confusing world for them so would you want to influence them in a bad way? We all have a responsibility here.
The Muslim also has hayaa (shame/shyness) that prevents him from exposing his sins. Hayaa is good and it does not lead except to goodness, and it is a branch of imaan (faith).
In the absence of hayaa, the Muslim will expose his own sins.
The Messenger sallallaahu ‘alayhe wa sallam said:
If you have no shame, then do as you wish!
Being shameful about one’s sins leads one to repent honestly between himself and Alaah SWT.

Now having said all this, do not be mislead to think that Alaah SWT allows lying. And in Surah az-Zumar it is mentioned:
“Surely Allah does not guide him aright who is a liar, ungrateful.” (Quran 39:3)
It can be understood from the verses of the Qur’an that a liar calls for divine curse and invites the anger of Allah (S.w.T.).
For example:
“... and pray for the curse of Allah on the liars.”
(Quran 3:61)
And also:
“... the curse of Allah be on him if he is one of the liars.”
(Quran 24:8)
Alaah the Almighty says in Surah an-Nahl, verse 105:
“Only they forge the lie who do not believe in Allah’s communications, and these are the liars.”
Lying is best to be avoided and so try to cover your past sins with an indirect answer. When it comes to your parents, you are protecting them from worry, anguish and sadness by providing this type of answer.
Remember, even in situations where lying is permissible, it would be religiously more precautionary to use misleading words instead of outright lying.
Jazak Allahu Khairan

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QUOTE(king99 @ Dec 17 2014, 10:15 PM)
Hello. just want to ask will this bring any problem from JAIS or any religious body to my Muslim friend.

Me and my gang of friends always hang out at a Christian Friend house( out of 8 got 5 Muslims ). We usually just play video games and watch movie only because he got huge ass TV and PS4.

However, the house we always hang out got many Christian symbols such as the cross and Jesus portrait.Quite noticeable from the outside.

The Christian friend's family respect the Muslims and do not do any converting things to them and they are also close friends with the Muslim friend's parents.

The Muslim friend's parents is comfortable letting their sons to the Christian home as they believe their son's faith will not be easily converted and just go there to have fun.

The problem is with the other Muslim neighbours , they always dislike out Muslim's friend to go to the Christian house and even scold them and their family , "Nanti Anak Jadi Murtad baru tahu" , "Apa muslihat sebenar kamu selalu ajak orang kita masuk rumah Kristan ?"

I wonder if one day they will complain and JAIS will raid ? (issit this easy to do ?) or We should just ignore the neighbours.
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woah... i never knew got such paranoid ppl.... i mean cmon its almost 2015... its should be norm already for diff race n believe to mingle together... n as a muslim they shud thnk good thing bout ppl.. dont assume bad thing unless u have a proof
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hi guys. I'm a non Muslim. and I have a question.

i have come to understand that to convert into Islam, one has to ucap dua kalimah syahadah.

i have done that many times. does it make me a Muslim, but I don't practice most of the teachings.
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QUOTE(edge85 @ Dec 21 2014, 01:00 PM)
hi guys. I'm a non Muslim. and I have a question.

i have come to understand that to convert into Islam, one has to ucap dua kalimah syahadah.

i have done that many times. does it make me a Muslim, but I don't practice most of the teachings.
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I'm not sure... But when u did it for what purposes? Just to learn the phrase? Or you really want to be a Muslim and accept god?
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QUOTE(edge85 @ Dec 21 2014, 01:00 PM)
hi guys. I'm a non Muslim. and I have a question.

i have come to understand that to convert into Islam, one has to ucap dua kalimah syahadah.

i have done that many times. does it make me a Muslim, but I don't practice most of the teachings.
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To be a muslim, its not just 'saying' the dua kalimah syahadah per se. If you believe there is no God except Allah, and prophet Muhammad is the messenger of Allah, and you practice the teachings of Islam, then by all means, you are a muslim!

Believing, that is the key. From believe, comes faith. From faith, comes love.
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I'm not sure... But when u did it for what purposes? Just to learn the phrase? Or you really want to be a Muslim and accept god?
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QUOTE(edge85 @ Dec 21 2014, 01:00 PM)
hi guys. I'm a non Muslim. and I have a question.

i have come to understand that to convert into Islam, one has to ucap dua kalimah syahadah.

i have done that many times. does it make me a Muslim, but I don't practice most of the teachings.
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to become a moslem yes you have to recite the syahadah with freewill and with true believe that
there is no god but Allah and Muhammad is the messenger of Allah.
that is the 1st step.
theres also the basic tenets of islamic believe and the basic tenets of worship. which is compulsory to any moslem.

btw if youre just saying the syahadah just by saying it , no it wont make you a moslem .

btw on practising islam just like anything in life practice makes perfect and why not start with something easy.
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salam brothers, nak tanya, harta sepencarian tu adat ke agama ?
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salam brothers, nak tanya, harta sepencarian tu adat ke agama ?
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QUOTE(king99 @ Dec 17 2014, 10:15 PM)
Hello. just want to ask will this bring any problem from JAIS or any religious body to my Muslim friend.

Me and my gang of friends always hang out at a Christian Friend house( out of 8 got 5 Muslims ). We usually just play video games and watch movie only because he got huge ass TV and PS4.

However, the house we always hang out got many Christian symbols such as the cross and Jesus portrait.Quite noticeable from the outside.

The Christian friend's family respect the Muslims and do not do any converting things to them and they are also close friends with the Muslim friend's parents.

The Muslim friend's parents is comfortable letting their sons to the Christian home as they believe their son's faith will not be easily converted and just go there to have fun.

The problem is with the other Muslim neighbours , they always dislike out Muslim's friend to go to the Christian house and even scold them and their family , "Nanti Anak Jadi Murtad baru tahu" , "Apa muslihat sebenar kamu selalu ajak orang kita masuk rumah Kristan ?"

I wonder if one day they will complain and JAIS will raid ? (issit this easy to do ?) or We should just ignore the neighbours.
Bloody heck. I'm there for the huge arse telly and PS4 system to play games. How does that translates into religion thingy? People are truly sick these days. How about these...

A. The car brand of Chevrolet? "Cross of Chevrolet" had anything to do with Christianity?

B. The emblems of the International Red Cross and Red Crescent Movement, under the Geneva Conventions. How about those hospitals?

C. The game Diablo III: Reaper of Souls (or whatever version of Diablo). How about those?

D. The club crest "that" glorifies the devil, Manchester United (English Premier League)? Oh my...It's OK since it's a crappy football club.


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QUOTE(Joey Christensen @ Dec 22 2014, 02:19 PM)
Bloody heck. I'm there for the huge arse telly and PS4 system to play games. How does that translates into religion thingy? People are truly sick these days. How about these...

A. The car brand of Chevrolet? "Cross of Chevrolet" had anything to do with Christianity?

B. The emblems of the International Red Cross and Red Crescent Movement, under the Geneva Conventions. How about those hospitals?

C. The game Diablo III: Reaper of Souls (or whatever version of Diablo). How about those?

D. The club crest "that" glorifies the devil, Manchester United (English Premier League)? Oh my...It's OK since it's a crappy football club.
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Well, some people are like that.
so paranoid.
some of them due to their upbringing as they never mix with people from other religion/race.
as long as no direct attempt at trying to convert someone to forsake islam there is no law against meeting with non-muslim neighbours. And actually islam emphasise on keeping good relation with neighbours (within 40 houses from the muslim's house in fact).
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but somehow i admired the way he gives speech

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hi guys. I'm a non Muslim. and I have a question.

i have come to understand that to convert into Islam, one has to ucap dua kalimah syahadah.

i have done that many times. does it make me a Muslim, but I don't practice most of the teachings.
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what does it mean.
There is no god but Allah & Muhhammad is the Rasullullah

guys after some realization today i found that much hatred have been made towards this flag for the wrong reason moslem included.

this is not a flag of terror and hatred but a flag of Truth , Justice and Light Wallau karihal Musyrikun, Walau Karihal Munafiqun , Walau Karihal Nasara , walau karihal Yahudan.

the flag should bring honour , liberation and justice to this whole world have been hijacked by a group of people not to uphold what its stand for but rather to dishonoured it in the name of ISLAM.

so please any moslem please do not hate the flag or associate it with injustice and terrorism but hate the people that is using the flag to bring honour and shame to the Ummah. This is a subtle way of Neuro_Language_Program or NLP to associate something(please read more of this using alsheikh google) with something and i must take my hat to them , i myself when i see the flag before feels hatred towards it for it being associated with terrorism and massacre. Theres so much NLP going on in todays world from the media that we have to filter it out before accepting something as the truth.

Yet today i realize its not the flag its the people betraying it that i should feels hatred to astaghfirullah . That flag had liberated the Harammain under the Messenger of ALLAH himself , HIJAZ under Saidana Abu Bakr , Umar , Ali dan Uthman , AS SYAms under Khalid ibn walid, Egypt under Amr ibn Asr ,Andalusia under Tarriiq ibn Ziyad , Constantinople under Mehmet Al Fateh and it has bring so much Honour and Justice to the world .

May Allah bring forth the truth to world. Islam does not condone terrorism nor glorify it in anyway.
but we glorify Honour , Dignity , Justice and Truth in serving for our way of life just like any patriot of a country is honoured for his service to his nation.

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hi guys. I'm a non Muslim. and I have a question.

i have come to understand that to convert into Islam, one has to ucap dua kalimah syahadah.

i have done that many times. does it make me a Muslim, but I don't practice most of the teachings.
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its been 10 years after tsunami 2004
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saya dah sunat... damn pain now cannot move
InshaAllah!!! power of god in my body ....ouch
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saya dah sunat... damn pain now cannot move
InshaAllah!!! power of god in my body ....ouch
how to kencing ohmy.gif  icon_question.gif  cry.gif
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i tot nowdays got those clip style sunnat not that pain.
or you went the traditional way??
find the gamat jelly and eat it alot la.
rm50 per bottle. it`ll heal faster.
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QUOTE(ralfvi @ Dec 24 2014, 02:35 PM)
i tot nowdays got those clip style sunnat not that pain.
or you went the traditional way??
find the gamat jelly and eat it alot la.
rm50 per bottle. it`ll heal faster.
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i think it use laser, i can hear the sound... now still pain
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this might be my last post before got banned forever. to all my fellow muslim;

banyak sangat dah dalam /k menghina/mencaci/mengejek islam, terutamanya dalam kes hudud,halal/haram. sedih aku tengok.


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QUOTE(pallmall @ Dec 24 2014, 03:42 PM)
this might be my last post before got banned forever. to all my fellow muslim;

banyak sangat dah dalam /k menghina/mencaci/mengejek islam, terutamanya dalam kes hudud,halal/haram. sedih aku tengok.
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QUOTE(pallmall @ Dec 24 2014, 03:42 PM)
this might be my last post before got banned forever. to all my fellow muslim;

banyak sangat dah dalam /k menghina/mencaci/mengejek islam, terutamanya dalam kes hudud,halal/haram. sedih aku tengok.
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Dunia akhir zaman.. Kalau kita bersuara tu lg byk mendatangkan cacian and perkara negatif, baik diam sahaja. Bersuara bila perlu, and bersuara dgn ayat berakhlak.

Janji Allah tu pasti, Islam akan naik. Haiya'alal falah. Muhasabah diri dulu, tingkatkan ilmu, didik keluarga dulu..
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QUOTE(meistsh_musical @ Dec 24 2014, 03:16 PM)
i think it use laser, i can hear the sound... now still pain
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Biasa la bro.. Seminggu nanti ok la... Jangan makan telur.... takut bengkak/lambat sembuh luka... Makan ikan haruan kalau nk cepat sembuh...
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Mintak pendapat korang, aku ada jaw anomaly yang dipanggil underbite

so aku planning nak buat ortognathic surgery dekat Prince Court

kesan buruknya atas hidup aku, susah mengunyah makanan, and nampak tak elok, kalau nak kawin susah cari calon

apa pendirian Islam dalam hal ni ?

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Teruk sangat ke nak mengunyah tu?
Kena rujuk fatwa yang diluluskan.
kalau ikut pemahaman jika sekadar untuk melakukan pembedahan bagi memudahkan urusan yang sukar boleh dilakukan. Pembedahan yang tak boleh dilakukan ialah pembedahan yang mengubah kejadian. Contohnya pembedahan hidung dilakukan sekadar nak jadikan mancung yang mana sebelum pembedahan tiada sebarang permasalahan bernafas atau sebagainya. Atau membelah lidah supaya boleh berlagak.
jadi kalau nak buat pembedahan itu, pasangkan niat untuk memudahkan urusan mengunyah kerana allah.
Moga allah terima.
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Teruk sangat ke nak mengunyah tu?
Kena rujuk fatwa yang diluluskan.
kalau ikut pemahaman jika sekadar untuk melakukan pembedahan bagi memudahkan urusan yang sukar boleh dilakukan. Pembedahan yang tak boleh dilakukan ialah pembedahan yang mengubah kejadian. Contohnya pembedahan hidung dilakukan sekadar nak jadikan mancung yang mana sebelum pembedahan tiada sebarang permasalahan bernafas atau sebagainya. Atau membelah lidah supaya boleh berlagak.
jadi kalau nak buat pembedahan itu, pasangkan niat untuk memudahkan urusan mengunyah kerana allah.
Moga allah terima.
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dah bertahun tak guna gigi depan, sebab tak alligned properly, dok mengharapkan geraham je

tapi itu bukan primary reason, primary reason adalah dia merosakkan social life aku seteruknya

contohnya, senyum nampak tak elok, kalau tak senyum, muka nampak garang (serius) all the time
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dah bertahun tak guna gigi depan, sebab tak alligned properly, dok mengharapkan geraham je

tapi itu bukan primary reason, primary reason adalah dia merosakkan social life aku seteruknya

contohnya, senyum nampak tak elok, kalau tak senyum, muka nampak garang (serius) all the time
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its been 10 years after tsunami 2004
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Mintak pendapat korang, aku ada jaw anomaly yang dipanggil underbite

so aku planning nak buat ortognathic surgery dekat Prince Court

kesan buruknya atas hidup aku, susah mengunyah makanan, and nampak tak elok, kalau nak kawin susah cari calon

apa pendirian Islam dalam hal ni ?
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bila tujuan untuk kesihatan, harus
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Biasa la bro..  Seminggu nanti ok la... Jangan makan telur....  takut bengkak/lambat sembuh luka... Makan ikan haruan kalau nk cepat sembuh...
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ada bengkak lagi
tapi x rasa lagi..... bengkak kurang sikit
sekrang masalah batang bawah luka sakit lagi
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My Zakat perniagaan RM582.42.

saya derma kat kawan umah die banjir...

anda dah kire zakat hujug tahun?

edit..soalan satu lagi


Saya meniaga kecil2an.

Saya dah buat zakat perniagaan.

pendapatan saya ialah untung lepas tolak modal/raw material+kos berkaitan.

adakah saya perlu buat zakat pendapatan lagi?

Terima kasih..

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QUOTE(kuikuikuikui @ Jan 1 2015, 03:33 PM)
My Zakat perniagaan RM582.42.

saya derma kat kawan umah die banjir...

anda dah kire zakat hujug tahun?

edit..soalan satu lagi
Saya meniaga kecil2an.

Saya dah buat zakat perniagaan.

pendapatan saya ialah untung lepas tolak modal/raw material+kos berkaitan.

adakah saya perlu buat zakat pendapatan lagi?

Terima kasih..
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Sila bertanya kepada pusat kutipan zakat berhampiran anda.

Rasanya tak perlu. Tapi perlu zakat simpanan.
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'there are over 1.5 billion muslims on earth, if you think all muslims are terrorists, everyone would be dead by now'

some people failed to realize this
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'there are over 1.5 billion muslims on earth, if you think all muslims are terrorists, everyone would be dead by now'

some people failed to realize this
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Another thing that people fail to realize.

There are over 1.5 billion muslims on earth, and its adding by the day. If its a false and negative religion, why are the numbers proving otherwise? brows.gif
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“And verily, We will make them taste of the near torment (i.e. the torment in the life of this world, i.e. disasters, calamities) prior to the supreme torment (in the Hereafter), in order that they may (repent and) return (i.e. accept Islam)”
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Salam

lets strive to live by the Prophet's(PBUH) teachings and not just celebrate his birthday icon_rolleyes.gif


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Waalaikumsalam

“And verily, We will make them taste of the near torment (i.e. the torment in the life of this world, i.e. disasters, calamities) prior to the supreme torment (in the Hereafter), in order that they may (repent and) return (i.e. accept Islam)”
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QUOTE(tentang rasa @ Jan 1 2015, 09:25 PM)
'there are over 1.5 billion muslims on earth, if you think all muslims are terrorists, everyone would be dead by now'

some people failed to realize this
Fffffffffffffffuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu!
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QUOTE(tentang rasa @ Jan 3 2015, 10:47 PM)
Why?
Tidak terfikir saya sebelum ini. I won't even waste my time into thinking every Muslim is a terrorist. Personally, I'm just a orang sederhana dengan kehidupan yang sederhana.
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QUOTE(Joey Christensen @ Jan 3 2015, 10:51 PM)
Tidak terfikir saya sebelum ini. I won't even waste my time into thinking every Muslim is a terrorist. Personally, I'm just a orang sederhana dengan kehidupan yang sederhana.
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apa pendapat semua tentang yahanana ni? aritu ada baca kat paper ,jabatan agama tengah wat siasatan
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Question that I have. What's the deal of people say Salam. Why can't pronounce properly. Assalamualaikum. Is it really really hard or pure laziness to type.
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Question that I have. What's the deal of people say Salam. Why can't pronounce properly. Assalamualaikum. Is it really really hard or pure laziness to type.
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No wonder Muslims in Malaysia (not majority) is in a mess.

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Question that I have. What's the deal of people say Salam. Why can't pronounce properly. Assalamualaikum. Is it really really hard or pure laziness to type.
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i think it just matter of language... whats wrong w salam? it means peace also....
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apa pendapat semua tentang yahanana ni? aritu ada baca kat paper ,jabatan agama tengah wat siasatan
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QUOTE(mamata @ Jan 5 2015, 04:00 PM)
apa pendapat semua tentang yahanana ni? aritu ada baca kat paper ,jabatan agama tengah wat siasatan
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Okay je pada aku. Cuma ada satu dua tu ada musykil bg org ramai, sbb berkaitan dgn ilmu haq, yg syariat xmendalami, byk pada ilmu hakikat. Wallahualam.
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i think it just matter of language... whats wrong w salam? it means peace also....
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Since when peace and peace be upon you is the same? Did Rasulullah S. A. W teach us to greet with Salam or Assalamualaikum?

Now feed on this. Jews as well give Salam... Shalomalaikheim and the reply is alaikheimshalom. They cut short and just say shalom. Salam = shalom... Get it. Why do we need to imitate Jews?

Who are we to pandai pandai change what has been implemented by Rasulullah. No wonder we are in a mess.

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Ha ye ke? Wallahualam.. Aku dh penah pg skali je dia punya majlis
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saya pernah jumpa satu orang tua kat Johor..dia punya amalan cukup cukup karut

dia ajar, kalau tak dapat apa yang kita nak, pergi kat kubur moyang kita(my ancestor were famous Johor early settlers) pastu doa kat tuhan, mintak apa yang kita nak atas nama moyang kita

pastu dia kata amalan baik keturunan Nabi dapat pahala sepuluh kali ganda dari orang biasa...tah mana hadis yang pernah cakap camtu

orang kampung kalau jahil agama, jahil teruk
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QUOTE(kn0t @ Jan 7 2015, 02:23 AM)
Since when peace and peace be upon you is the same? Did Rasulullah S. A. W teach us to greet with Salam or Assalamualaikum?

Now feed on this. Jews as well give Salam... Shalomalaikheim and the reply is alaikheimshalom. They cut short and just say shalom. Salam = shalom... Get it. Why do we need to imitate Jews?

Who are we to pandai pandai change what has been implemented by Rasulullah. No wonder we are in a mess.
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we are not imitating jew... so what if i say shalom... is it forbidden for muslim to use jewish language? salam mean peace... it doesnt contain bad word... should be fine imo...
this is just remeh temeh issue on how ppl spread in fb that jew want to trick muslim of not eating fish, not eating lamb... doesnt make sense




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we are not imitating jew...  so what if i say shalom... is it forbidden for muslim to use jewish language? salam mean peace... it doesnt contain bad word...  should be fine imo...
this is just remeh temeh issue on how ppl spread in fb that jew want to trick muslim of not eating fish, not eating lamb...  doesnt make sense
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Of course there is no wrong whatsoever. Even Rasulullah S. A. W himself gave the permission of as sahabi to learn the scripture of people of the book after Islam has gained stable foot in the Arabian Peninsula.

To you it might be remeh temeh but may I remind you that Rasulullah has says... I leave you o Muslims 2 things, Quran and my sunnah, follow it and you may not get astray. Which do you prefer. To follow sunnah or to follow your own as you like. Me, I will follow sunnah and sunnah says Assalamualaikum and not salam. Wish to remind meself and all. Give proper salam which is Assalamualaikum.

P/s: among people of the book, Jews is the closest to us but their hatred towards Islam and us the Muslims is beyond belief.

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QUOTE(seiferalmercy @ Jan 7 2015, 11:09 AM)
saya pernah jumpa satu orang tua kat Johor..dia punya amalan cukup cukup karut

dia ajar, kalau tak dapat apa yang kita nak, pergi kat kubur moyang kita(my ancestor were famous Johor early settlers) pastu doa kat tuhan, mintak apa yang kita nak atas nama moyang kita

pastu dia kata amalan baik keturunan Nabi dapat pahala sepuluh kali ganda dari orang biasa...tah mana hadis yang pernah cakap camtu

orang kampung kalau jahil agama, jahil teruk
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Huhu tu la sedih bila dengar citer camni.. Iman tak diwarisi. Mana ada dalam Islam mengatakan keturunan Rasulullah doa lebih mustajab. Ikut amalan masing2...
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QUOTE(kn0t @ Jan 8 2015, 12:29 AM)
Of course there is no wrong whatsoever. Even Rasulullah S. A. W himself gave the permission of as sahabi to learn the scripture of people of the book after Islam has gained stable foot in the Arabian Peninsula.

To you it might be remeh temeh but may I remind you that Rasulullah has says... I leave you o Muslims 2 things, Quran and my sunnah, follow it and you may not get astray. Which do you prefer. To follow sunnah or to follow your own as you like. Me,  I will follow sunnah and sunnah says Assalamualaikum and not salam. Wish to remind meself and all. Give proper salam which is Assalamualaikum.

P/s: among people of the book, Jews is the closest to us but their hatred towards Islam and us the Muslims is beyond belief.
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"Mereka yang terikut2 dengan cara org nasrani & yahudi, bukan umat Muhammad, dan xkan dpt syafaat Nabi Muhammad"

Aku tak pasti skop 'cara' tu meliputi apa. Pemakaian? adab & adat? tutur cara? budaya?
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QUOTE(kn0t @ Jan 8 2015, 12:29 AM)
Of course there is no wrong whatsoever. Even Rasulullah S. A. W himself gave the permission of as sahabi to learn the scripture of people of the book after Islam has gained stable foot in the Arabian Peninsula.

To you it might be remeh temeh but may I remind you that Rasulullah has says... I leave you o Muslims 2 things, Quran and my sunnah, follow it and you may not get astray. Which do you prefer. To follow sunnah or to follow your own as you like. Me,  I will follow sunnah and sunnah says Assalamualaikum and not salam. Wish to remind meself and all. Give proper salam which is Assalamualaikum.

P/s: among people of the book, Jews is the closest to us but their hatred towards Islam and us the Muslims is beyond belief.
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for me its the matter of language only... its not like we want to 'follow' jewish(the religion) but i think it more to suit our language n tongue... like how most of us call whatsapp as wasap.. milo as 'milo' n , solehuddeen as solehuddin....

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QUOTE(WinkyJr @ Jan 8 2015, 09:31 AM)
"Mereka yang terikut2 dengan cara org nasrani & yahudi, bukan umat Muhammad, dan xkan dpt syafaat Nabi Muhammad"

Aku tak pasti skop 'cara' tu meliputi apa. Pemakaian? adab & adat? tutur cara? budaya?
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I dont know about you guys la bro, but me, I'm more of a rationalist muslim. What is budaya, cara, etc? Right? It's too generic. That's why I follow rationale. Some people say kenot celebrate christmas. I disagree because I dont celebrate it in a religious value, but more like pop culture. Santa, not Jesus nor St Nicholas. It's not Jesus's birthday anyway. Speaking of birthday, don't we celebrate Maulid Nabi also? Muhammad's supposed birthday? Islam teaches us to do that? Isn't that following yahudi nasrani? And again, it's not his real birthday, too.


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QUOTE(aimank_88 @ Jan 8 2015, 04:35 AM)
Huhu tu la sedih bila dengar citer camni.. Iman tak diwarisi. Mana ada dalam Islam mengatakan keturunan Rasulullah doa lebih mustajab. Ikut amalan masing2...
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betul iman x dpt diwarisi..baru2 ni kawan aku ank ustaz kena tangkap dengan polis kes dadah.
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betul iman x dpt diwarisi..baru2 ni kawan aku ank ustaz kena tangkap dengan polis kes dadah.
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Nauzubillah.. Dugaan utk ustaz tu.. Allah sentiasa beri dugaan kepada hambanya utk menguji keimanan mereka... Tp yg best, kalau kita lepas dugaan dgn cara yg betul, Allah akan naikkan darjat kita..
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Hari ini baju saya kotor.

Saya kumpul masuk dalam mesin siram baju.

Setelah siap disiram, baju saya nampak bersih.

Kita tak panggil mesin basuh tu mesin siram.

Kalau siram je, baju tu tak bersih.



Jadi kalau wudhu, kita siram kaki ke basuh kaki?

Kita panggil basuh kaki. Bukan siram kaki.

Kalau siram kaki, kaki kita masih kotor.


Kalau kaki kotor, sahkah solat kita?

Kalau tak sah apa akibatnya?

Lu jawappp la sendiri.

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ada kemusykilan sikit

kedai fastfood di kuala lumpur

ada serve arak

menu takde pork

makan burger ayam atau daging saja

saya assume dia beli ayam and daging halal dari supermarket

lalu saya makan burger daging, ngan orange juice

apa pendirian Islam dalam hal ini ? unsure.gif
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QUOTE(seiferalmercy @ Jan 8 2015, 11:53 PM)
ada kemusykilan sikit

kedai fastfood di kuala lumpur

ada serve arak

menu takde pork

makan burger ayam atau daging saja

saya assume dia beli ayam and daging halal dari supermarket

lalu saya makan burger daging, ngan orange juice

apa pendirian Islam dalam hal ini ? unsure.gif
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Ini macam chilis n tgif.... Tak silap aku la... Yang aku tgk Kat utube vid ustaz azhar, da ad org Tanya soalan n...
Dia cakap makanan Tu halal kalau mmg daging halal n takde letak benda haram, walaupon kedaibtu serve arak... Tapi x manis la... Dia srh pegi lain2 restaurant yg x serve arak...

Lebih kurang mcm n la... Kalai silap tolong betulkan

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macam aku personally pernah travel europe country ,kat sana kedai jual makanan halal dia donor @kebab memang ada jual arak ,tapi diorang letak hujungggggggggg kaunter .ni utk cater mat saleh yang nak makan kebab n nak minum arak , tu la,kalau ikukan syubahah,tapi kita sebagai pembeli ni tak salah le.
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QUOTE(kuikuikuikui @ Jan 8 2015, 06:35 PM)
Hari ini baju saya kotor.

Saya kumpul masuk dalam mesin siram baju.

Setelah siap disiram, baju saya nampak bersih.

Kita tak panggil mesin basuh tu mesin siram.

Kalau siram je, baju tu tak bersih.
Jadi kalau wudhu, kita siram kaki ke basuh kaki?

Kita panggil basuh kaki. Bukan siram kaki.

Kalau siram kaki, kaki kita masih kotor.
Kalau kaki kotor, sahkah solat kita?

Kalau tak sah apa akibatnya?

Lu jawappp la sendiri.
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kalau setakat jirus 2 tu kira siram rasanya
cara yang terbaik ratakan seluruh tempat
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What is the Quran's prospective on reacting to insults against our Prophet (PBUH)?


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It came to the point that I feel funny having to say over and over again that Islam =/= terrorism. We are feeding into people's ignorance. But again, we have to, otherwise, worse.

It's a common knowledge to us, that Islam teaches peace. But I wish people stop saying "Islam is a religion of peace". Because while the Holy Quran talk about peace, it also contains aggression. It contains both. So in a way, it's actually "Islam is a religion of peace, and aggression". Just like ALL other major religions, be it Christianity, or even Buddhism. (it's funny people still think buddhism is the one peaceful religion). It all depends how you interpret and understand the ayat. Those terrorist can do the exact same thing; quoting the ayat or hadith to justify their terrorism. They are not liars, they just interpret the ayat & hadith is a distorted, destructive, and surely lost reading.

So it all goes down to how you interpret the ayat, and your rationale. When you read the ayat, you also need to understand the context of the ayat.
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Assalamualaikum semua,

dua tiga harini agama kita kena hentam cukup teruk,

all because of some veeery confused and misguided individual Muslims in Europe

Semoga Allah SWT melindungi kita semua dan saudara2 kita di Europe dari malapetaka yang bakal menimpa

Dan Umat Islam kat Europe kena kena fikir macamana nak integrate dengan society peacefully, bukan nak create Islamic State

Nabi takde ajar duduk negara orang pastu buat onar
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QUOTE(seiferalmercy @ Jan 10 2015, 11:47 AM)
Assalamualaikum semua,

dua tiga harini agama kita kena hentam cukup teruk,

all because of some veeery confused and misguided individual Muslims in Europe

Semoga Allah SWT melindungi kita semua dan saudara2 kita di Europe dari malapetaka yang bakal menimpa

Dan Umat Islam kat Europe kena kena fikir macamana nak integrate dengan society peacefully, bukan nak create Islamic State

Nabi takde ajar duduk negara orang pastu buat onar
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Islamaphobia is at an all time high with the recent killings and terrorism.

I would like to know what the Muslim /k's think about this.
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Its' not Islamophobia when it's something dangerous rite ....

Give u an example, if i declare an apostasy in malaysia , GG . So it's not really islamophobia , when I fear the religion because of a a valid reason .
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QUOTE(akidos @ Jan 11 2015, 12:05 AM)
Its' not Islamophobia when it's something dangerous rite ....

Give u an example, if i declare an apostasy in malaysia , GG . So it's not really islamophobia , when I fear the religion because of a a valid reason .
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I guess you're right. Though people acceptance towards Islam and Muslims has decreased exponentially this past few days and I just wanted to know how the Muslims here in /k feel about that.

Pretty disappointing to see how Islam has gain such a bad reputation over the years. Even more disappointing is the amount of Malaysians that sympathises with the extremist.
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QUOTE(kevinlowl @ Jan 11 2015, 05:56 AM)
Hi, I just stumbled upon this thread. Not a Muslim here but I've always wondered what happens to a Muslim who commits apostasy in Malaysia. I never asked my friends because you know lah religion sensitive topic but now since it's on the internet I thought I'd ask. I read this http://www.islam.gov.my/en/e-hadith/apostasy and it certainly says death but they don't really do it right?  hmm.gif
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thanks for asking.. this video could answer your question..


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Assalammualaikum, Im happy this thread has become quite popular nod.gif

Semoga kita semua mendapat balasan pahala dari Allah SWT dan dapat membantu memperbetulkan misperception ke atas Islam
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QUOTE(seiferalmercy @ Jan 10 2015, 11:47 AM)
Assalamualaikum semua,

dua tiga harini agama kita kena hentam cukup teruk,

all because of some veeery confused and misguided individual Muslims in Europe

Semoga Allah SWT melindungi kita semua dan saudara2 kita di Europe dari malapetaka yang bakal menimpa

Dan Umat Islam kat Europe kena kena fikir macamana nak integrate dengan society peacefully, bukan nak create Islamic State

Nabi takde ajar duduk negara orang pastu buat onar
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QUOTE(livesnextd00r @ Jan 10 2015, 10:43 PM)
Islamaphobia is at an all time high with the recent killings and terrorism.

I would like to know what the Muslim /k's think about this.
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I do not understand why ppl become extremists, i would never do. The caliph state system is long gone, it's history, so stop trying to bring back the past that you know wont happen. If killing is the way they do it, justifying that this is the same like old times holy war... They're just plain wrong.

Sad thing is that many malaysians, including some in this forum, agree with establisbing such thing, condoning all these killings. It's sad. Future in malaysia is bleak. I reject pas with their extremist mind. What is more important to me, is that we all, regardless of religion, can live equally in harmony.

And god give us brain to think. Question everything. I dont simply accept things.

And i need to add, some ustaz are quite extremist minded as well... Why are we following them? We shouldnt. No matter what his title is. Ustaz or ulama. Those are plain titles.

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Debate on sensitive religious matters should be conducted in the Real World Issues section.
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Yes I believe this thread is not to debate on religious issue. Just sharing knowledge only.
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... i guess lowyat is for hentam islam since my post on other religion here seems to be removed.
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QUOTE(tentang rasa @ Jan 11 2015, 12:59 PM)
thanks for asking.. this video could answer your question..

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What does it say? at office now, no speaker.. (boss not in yet, ngulor kejap laa biggrin.gif)

QUOTE(Pr1me_Minister @ Jan 12 2015, 05:01 AM)
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Different community. I am sure this thread will be bombarded with Islam hater if move to RWI. Besides,..

QUOTE(samuraikacang @ Jan 12 2015, 08:04 AM)
Yes I believe this thread is not to debate on religious issue. Just sharing knowledge only.
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yes, ..it's more to sharing our diverse opinion on and in Islam.

QUOTE(xein @ Jan 12 2015, 08:27 AM)
... i guess lowyat is for hentam islam since my post on other religion here seems to be removed.
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What was it that you talked about? Mind PM me?
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QUOTE(hirano @ Jan 11 2015, 11:25 PM)
I do not understand why ppl become extremists, i would never do. The caliph state system is long gone, it's history, so stop trying to bring back the past that you know wont happen. If killing is the way they do it, justifying that this is the same like old times holy war... They're just plain wrong.

Sad thing is that many malaysians, including some in this forum, agree with establisbing such thing, condoning all these killings. It's sad. Future in malaysia is bleak. I reject pas with their extremist mind. What is more important to me, is that we all, regardless of religion, can live equally in harmony.

And god give us brain to think. Question everything. I dont simply accept things.

And i need to add, some ustaz are quite extremist minded as well... Why are we following them? We shouldnt. No matter what his title is. Ustaz or ulama. Those are plain titles.
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I believe you are Muslim, yes? Then you should know since young, we are told the stories of the old times, sirah nabi, para sahabah, etc etc. We were told the "sacred story" not the "historical story". Meaning the stories were romanticized, dibunga2kan, even their dialogs were very theatrical. People today still romanticize those old times, that's why. They believe that's what we should be.

It's true what you say: Even us here, look around. How many still regard the Khulafa Al-rasyidin as holy men, examplary muslim? They don't even know those men fight each other, use force and aggression and tricks to gain political power, and they're not even the religious leader of their people!

If we know the historical story, we would not romanticize the ancient times. We will still have high respect for them, yes. But we will think logical too, with modern mind.

How many Malaysian Muslims still hate Jews even innocent child jews, for no apparent reason, apart from what their ulama told them? Countless. They're afraid to question, because they think questioning those ulama means questioning Islam. They're blinded by their Islam.
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QUOTE(notoriousfiq @ Jan 12 2015, 09:08 AM)
What does it say? at office now, no speaker.. (boss not in yet, ngulor kejap laa biggrin.gif)
Different community. I am sure this thread will be bombarded with Islam hater if move to RWI. Besides,..
yes, ..it's more to sharing our diverse opinion on and in Islam.
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some of us here asking if we should punish apostasy to death or not. a true follower of islam must believes in quran and hadith right? hence the video disscussed what should we do to apostasy. the answers were vary, the quran states its allowed to kill when they degrades islam. say that one married to a muslim woman then after a while he turned back apostasy and ripped all the benefits and go against islam. this is the one we should kill.

another one is what if he apostate by his own? and not spread lies/libel? it suggested that we should just ignores but of course we are not redha on the act of apostasy.
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QUOTE(tentang rasa @ Jan 12 2015, 09:34 AM)
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That's why it's essential to use our rationale. We should understand the context of the text, not just follow literally. How can anyone in their right mind condone killing SIMPLY because someone choose to leave Islam?

I'm still learning, because I don't agree we should kill that easy.

Another belief is that many of these rulings were revealed during the ancient time, war time, war between religions. So "apostates" here means enemy in war. It was actual wars between religions that time, so turning against Islam means you are joining the enemy's side of the trench, literally. That's when reaction such as killing is permissible. This make more sense to me...

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QUOTE(notoriousfiq @ Jan 12 2015, 09:48 AM)
That's why it's essential to use our rationale. We should understand the context of the text, not just follow literally. How can anyone in their right mind condone killing SIMPLY because someone choose to leave Islam?

I'm still learning, because I don't agree we should kill that easy.

Another belief is that the Quran was revealed during the ancient time, war time, war between religions. So "apostates" here means enemy in war. It was actual wars between religions that time, so turning against Islam means you are joining the enemy's side of the trench, literally. That's when reaction such as killing is permissible. This make more sense to me.
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yup, youre right. we should learn how to tolerates and always remember one of His characteristics is that He is the most forgiving and merciful.

and verse about quran (4:89) continuous with next verse (4:90) Except for those who take refuge with a people between yourselves and whom is a treaty or those who come to you.

that make sense, but Allah tak cipta quran untuk satu era sahaja. bear in mind that god's words tak terikat pada masa macam kita manusia ni. bagi aku kita mesti selarikan islam sesuai dengan peredaran zaman.
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QUOTE(tentang rasa @ Jan 12 2015, 10:27 AM)
that make sense, but Allah tak cipta quran untuk satu era sahaja. bear in mind that god's words tak terikat pada masa macam kita manusia ni. bagi aku kita mesti selarikan islam sesuai dengan peredaran zaman.
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Pada pendapat saya, islam tak seharusnya diselarikan dengan peredaran zaman.
Sepatutnya peredaran zaman diselarikan dengan islam.
ia sama seperti islam tidak sepatutnya dipolitikkan tetapi politik diselarikan dengan islam.


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I've heard that the most dangerous distraction satan does is when death is very near. Satan will distract us, so we forget to say syahadah. May Allah protect us.......
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QUOTE(tentang rasa @ Jan 12 2015, 10:27 AM)
yup, youre right. we should learn how to tolerates and always remember one of His characteristics is that He is the most forgiving and merciful.

and verse about quran (4:89) continuous with next verse (4:90) Except for those who take refuge with a people between yourselves and whom is a treaty or those who come to you.

that make sense, but Allah tak cipta quran untuk satu era sahaja. bear in mind that god's words tak terikat pada masa macam kita manusia ni. bagi aku kita mesti selarikan islam sesuai dengan peredaran zaman.
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I'm not saying Quran is only applicable in one era. What I'm trying to say is, when we read the text, we should also know the context of the text, not follow it simply literally.

I agree with you, we shoud selarikan, which is what we reformist muslim is trying to call for, reinterpetation of the text. It's about INTERPRETATION. Quran is always applicable, in all era, but in which interpretation?

But bear in mind, we call for this, but doesn't mean it's not happening yet, reformation within Islam has been going on since forever.

QUOTE(xein @ Jan 12 2015, 10:48 AM)
Pada pendapat saya, islam tak seharusnya diselarikan dengan peredaran zaman.
Sepatutnya peredaran zaman diselarikan dengan islam.
ia sama seperti islam tidak sepatutnya dipolitikkan tetapi politik diselarikan dengan islam.
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Kenapa tidak? Kita bukan mahu "ubah Islam", tapi memperbaharui pemahaman, intrepretasi quran dan hadis. Quran dan Hadith itu masih sama. Dan ini bukan benda baru, memang pemahaman telah dan sedang diperbaharu. Islam yang dipraktis sekarang tidak sama exactly dengan Islam beratus2 tahun dahulu, meaning praktisan Islam sudah sememangnya "berubah".

Mungkin ada yang terkejut dengar ini, Islam berubah. Perkataan "berubah" itu mengejutkan, dan akan ada yang tidak setuju. Bukan saya kata Islam itu berubah, cuma pemahaman itu diperbaharui dengan timbulnya minda moden, negara itu negara ini, fatwa itu fatwa ini, mazhab itu mazhab ini, pembaharuan perlahan dalam beratus2 tahun.

To me, you sound like those who call for the caliphate system to be back in this modern times. Am I correct?
If so, I disagree with that.
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QUOTE(notoriousfiq @ Jan 12 2015, 11:16 AM)
I'm not saying Quran is only applicable in one era. What I'm trying to say is, when we read the text, we should also know the context of the text, not follow it simply literally.

I agree with you, we shoud selarikan, which is what we reformist muslim is trying to call for, reinterpetation of the text. It's about INTERPRETATION. Quran is always applicable, in all era, but in which interpretation?

But bear in mind, we call for this, but doesn't mean it's not happening yet, reformation within Islam has been going on since forever.
Kenapa tidak? Kita bukan mahu "ubah Islam", tapi memperbaharui pemahaman, intrepretasi quran dan hadis. Quran dan Hadith itu masih sama. Dan ini bukan benda baru, memang pemahaman telah dan sedang diperbaharu. Islam yang dipraktis sekarang tidak sama exactly dengan Islam beratus2 tahun dahulu, meaning praktisan Islam sudah sememangnya "berubah".

Mungkin ada yang terkejut dengar ini, Islam berubah. Perkataan "berubah" itu mengejutkan, dan akan ada yang tidak setuju. Bukan saya kata Islam itu berubah, cuma pemahaman itu diperbaharui dengan timbulnya minda moden, negara itu negara ini, fatwa itu fatwa ini, mazhab itu mazhab ini, pembaharuan perlahan dalam beratus2 tahun.

To me, you sound like those who call for the caliphate system to be back in this modern times. Am I correct?
If so, I disagree with that.
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can you please give us some examples of these 'perubahan'?
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I do not understand why ppl become extremists, i would never do. The caliph state system is long gone, it's history, so stop trying to bring back the past that you know wont happen. If killing is the way they do it, justifying that this is the same like old times holy war... They're just plain wrong.

Sad thing is that many malaysians, including some in this forum, agree with establisbing such thing, condoning all these killings. It's sad. Future in malaysia is bleak. I reject pas with their extremist mind. What is more important to me, is that we all, regardless of religion, can live equally in harmony.

And god give us brain to think. Question everything. I dont simply accept things.

And i need to add, some ustaz are quite extremist minded as well... Why are we following them? We shouldnt. No matter what his title is. Ustaz or ulama. Those are plain titles.
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can you recommend some ustaz/ustazah/ulama that is not extremist?
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QUOTE(ainuddin @ Jan 12 2015, 11:41 AM)
can you please give us some examples of these 'perubahan'?
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Like I said, instead of perubahan, it more of a pembaharuan, renewal. We are not "changing" Islam.

If you want renewals, look at the fatwas being issued everyday. The differing ideas of modern muslims vs old muslims. Introduction of "new" system such as democracy, civil law.
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QUOTE(notoriousfiq @ Jan 12 2015, 11:58 AM)
Like I said, instead of perubahan, it more of a pembaharuan, renewal. We are not "changing" Islam.

If you want renewals, look at the fatwas being issued everyday. The differing ideas of modern muslims vs old muslims. Introduction of "new" system such as democracy, civil law.
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what kind of 'pembaharuan' in specific? imo, what you are saying is too general.
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Tell me, what is the caliph system? What is majlis syura?
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what kind of 'pembaharuan' in specific? imo, what you are saying is too general.
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If you're looking for specific, for a small black-white change, means you don't understand the overall concept of reformation. I suggest you go read up about it.

QUOTE(xein @ Jan 12 2015, 12:09 PM)
Tell me, what is the caliph system? What is majlis syura?
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Oh come on, now.. google stuff, people! Let's read more, I'm still learning too.

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QUOTE(notoriousfiq @ Jan 12 2015, 12:10 PM)
If you're looking for specific, for a small black-white change, means you don't understand the overall concept of reformation. I suggest you go read up about it.
Oh come on, now.. google stuff, people! Let's read more, I'm still learning too.
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i will, i just want to hear examples from you.
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QUOTE(ainuddin @ Jan 12 2015, 12:13 PM)
i will, i just want to hear examples from you.
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So now this is getting personal?

The very core of reformation is related to individualism. Nowadays, individualism has increased. That's an example.

Reinterpretation of the text is in light of modern knowledge. Now we understand equality more, we incorporate modern system and ideology, etc. That's an example.

Again, this is a gradual process in a broad scale. You are looking for specific example, meaning you don't get it yet.
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QUOTE(notoriousfiq @ Jan 12 2015, 12:37 PM)
So now this is getting personal?

The very core of reformation is related to individualism. Nowadays, individualism has increased. That's an example.

Reinterpretation of the text is in light of modern knowledge. Now we understand equality more, we incorporate modern system and ideology, etc. That's an example.

Again, this is a gradual process in a broad scale. You are looking for specific example, meaning you don't get it yet.
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OK.

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Kita berkongsi kongsi ilmu di sini, dan menghormati perbezaan pandangan..

Dan kita akui kita semua bukan sarjana besar

Kita tidak menggunakan kata2 kesat, dan kita tidak menghentam atau malabel orang lain dengan label2 yg bukan2. Hujah ilmiah dibalas dengan hujah ilmiah.

Apabila mula jadi emotional, ada baiknya kita just ignore..hopefully some other forumer will reply

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Lowyat malayinglish forum
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QUOTE(seiferalmercy @ Jan 12 2015, 12:43 PM)
Kita berkongsi kongsi ilmu di sini, dan menghormati perbezaan pandangan..

Dan kita akui kita semua bukan sarjana besar

Kita tidak menggunakan kata2 kesat, dan kita tidak menghentam atau malabel orang lain dengan label2 yg bukan2. Hujah ilmiah dibalas dengan hujah ilmiah.

Apabila mula jadi emotional, ada baiknya kita just ignore..hopefully some other forumer will reply

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It should not be personal, or targeting individual.

I myself use bad words too sometimes laugh.gif

QUOTE(ainuddin @ Jan 12 2015, 12:42 PM)
no this is not.

since you brought the matter up, and i don't get it yet, i wanted to learn more from your point. that is all.

can you explain more on text reinterpretation?
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Yes I can. But I wont. It's tiring to make this personal. Read more about it yourself. And yeah, I'm no sarjana besar, you should learn from better people.


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QUOTE(notoriousfiq @ Jan 12 2015, 12:54 PM)
It should not be personal, or targeting individual.

I myself use bad words too sometimes  laugh.gif
Yes I can. But I wont. It's tiring to make this personal. Read more about it yourself. And yeah, I'm no sarjana besar, you should learn from better people.
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Salam fellow brother,

Hope we stay strong together to face this current situation.

The Quran always warn us about the "fitnah akhir zaman".

The fitnah also had lead Muslim to the first civil war.

The fitnah is the main reason the collapse of might Ottoman Empire.

We must stay strong together smile.gif
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Salam guys, need opinion on something. What do you guys think of a Muslim supplying to a non-halal restaurant? I personally do can't find any issues there though I would love another opinion hmm.gif
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Salam guys, need opinion on something.  What do you guys think of a Muslim supplying to a non-halal restaurant? I personally do can't find any issues there though I would love another opinion  hmm.gif
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One opinion will say that it is allowed since the restaurant is considered a consumer/buyer. Whatever they do later is up to them.
Another will say that it is harom since the restaurant will use the money from non halal business to pay.


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Al-Maidah:32 - Dengan sebab (kisah pembunuhan kejam) yang demikian itu kami tetapkan atas Bani Israil, bahawasanya sesiapa yang membunuh seorang manusia dengan tiada alasan yang membolehkan membunuh orang itu, atau (kerana) melakukan kerosakan di muka bumi, maka seolah-olah dia telah membunuh manusia semuanya; dan sesiapa yang menjaga keselamatan hidup seorang manusia, maka seolah-olah dia telah menjaga keselamatan hidup manusia semuanya. Dan demi sesungguhnya, telah datang kepada mereka Rasul-rasul kami dengan membawa keterangan yang cukup terang; kemudian, sesungguhnya kebanyakan dari mereka sesudah itu, sungguh-sungguh menjadi orang-orang yang melampaui batas (melakukan kerosakan) di muka bumi.
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QUOTE(pornstar @ Jan 12 2015, 04:20 PM)
Salam guys, need opinion on something.  What do you guys think of a Muslim supplying to a non-halal restaurant? I personally do can't find any issues there though I would love another opinion  hmm.gif
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Hey, Muslim cannot be pornstar!! Later got death threat, they perform jihad on you! Haha.. jk jk

QUOTE(narutoway @ Jan 12 2015, 09:08 PM)
Al-Maidah:32 - Dengan sebab (kisah pembunuhan kejam) yang demikian itu kami tetapkan atas Bani Israil, bahawasanya sesiapa yang membunuh seorang manusia dengan tiada alasan yang membolehkan membunuh orang itu, atau (kerana) melakukan kerosakan di muka bumi, maka seolah-olah dia telah membunuh manusia semuanya; dan sesiapa yang menjaga keselamatan hidup seorang manusia, maka seolah-olah dia telah menjaga keselamatan hidup manusia semuanya. Dan demi sesungguhnya, telah datang kepada mereka Rasul-rasul kami dengan membawa keterangan yang cukup terang; kemudian, sesungguhnya kebanyakan dari mereka sesudah itu, sungguh-sungguh menjadi orang-orang yang melampaui batas (melakukan kerosakan) di muka bumi.
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Devil's advocate: "itu tetapan ke atas bani israil!" Kita anak Ismail, anak Isaac, or even Judah, kita saam geng la.. ahli buku.

That's the point, kenapa kita yang KONONnya a religion of peace, di ajar membenci Yahudi, Kristian, dan agama lain? Kenapa memanggil mereka musuh Islam? lepas tu boleh debik dada pulak cakap religion of peace.
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QUOTE(notoriousfiq @ Jan 13 2015, 08:55 AM)
Hey, Muslim cannot be pornstar!! Later got death threat, they perform jihad on you! Haha.. jk jk
Devil's advocate: "itu tetapan ke atas bani israil!" Kita anak Ismail, anak Isaac, or even Judah, kita saam geng la.. ahli buku.

That's the point, kenapa kita yang KONONnya a religion of peace, di ajar membenci Yahudi, Kristian, dan agama lain? Kenapa memanggil mereka musuh Islam? lepas tu boleh debik dada pulak cakap religion of peace.
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islam tak ajar kita mendabik dada dan bermusuh-musuhan.
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I just ignore whatever notoriusfiq statement, apparently he is here to ensure the thread get derailed.

May Allah have mercy on him.
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^ whatever makes you happy, man.. rolleyes.gif as long as wont harm other people.

QUOTE(hairiehasnie @ Jan 13 2015, 10:42 AM)
islam tak ajar kita mendabik dada dan bermusuh-musuhan.
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Exactly. It's incomprehensible to hate people for irrational reasons..
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my very personal opinion... nothing more, and hope that it can be openly and civilly discussed should there be disagreement, and eventually, if it comes to be, everyone may agree to disagree...

when it comes to sin, i believe that us human are given free-will, therefore we have the freedom to sin against god. doesnt mean that we should though. we're given mental capacity and intellect to think, reflect upon our decisions, actions and behavior. we were reminded of it thorugh warnings in the scriptures and the teachings of the prophet. and it is the justice of god in the after-life, eventually which will make us accountable to what we did, what we said in life.

us humans are not angels, created without free-will. and god doesnt create humans to be robot.

that being said, when it comes to sin between another human being, be it through theft, violence, corruption, lies or slander or anything which escaped my thought at the moment, that we condemn and punish accordingly.

those who overly focuses on sins, punishments and whats forbidden (haram) seems to be ignorant, or forgetful of the two characters of god himself, ar-rahman and ar-rahim. the most gracious, the most merciful. and upon saying amar ma'ruf nahi munkar (encouraging the good and forbidding the evil), often they choose to focus on "nahi munkar" part, even when its the second part of the saying, without doing anything about "amar ma'ruf"

thus, when one commit sins against him, do sincerely regret and do fear his wrath, but at the same time, return to him, seeking his boundless mercy.

some of us emphasize too much on punishments and sins and whats forbidden. that distract others from the beauty of justice and mercy and love in islam.

#endrant - for now...

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QUOTE(notoriousfiq @ Jan 13 2015, 08:55 AM)
Hey, Muslim cannot be pornstar!! Later got death threat, they perform jihad on you! Haha.. jk jk
Devil's advocate: "itu tetapan ke atas bani israil!" Kita anak Ismail, anak Isaac, or even Judah, kita saam geng la.. ahli buku.

That's the point, kenapa kita yang KONONnya a religion of peace, di ajar membenci Yahudi, Kristian, dan agama lain? Kenapa memanggil mereka musuh Islam? lepas tu boleh debik dada pulak cakap religion of peace.
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kita diajar supaya berjaga2.. takde pulak diberitahu yg darah yahudi dan nasrani tu halal dibunuh.. bg aku ayat tu sangat relevan dengan dunia skrg ni(terrorist/zionist). yg aku peliknya terrorist ni ada banyak sangat masa untuk membunuh tapi takda masa nak fahami ayat2 dalam al-quran. cukup la satu tu tunjuk yg kita dilarang bunuh sesuka hati.
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I agree with you lucifer_666. (whoah, that's a weird sentence to say laugh.gif )

I mean, tak malu ka (Traditional) Islamic organisations dok kecoh K-Pop lah, baju ketat lah, Taylor Swift lah, DNA babi lah, etc etc. Tengok organisasi lain Buddhist, Inter-faith, or just non-religious like soup kitchen, etc, pergi kutip derma, pergi tolong homeless, pergi buat free class utk under priviledge kids, etc.

Ada menteri tu kata duit selawat baik salur tolong mangsa banjir, habis dia kena bash dek traditionalist muslims. That itself says a LOT.


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QUOTE(pornstar @ Jan 12 2015, 04:20 PM)
Salam guys, need opinion on something.  What do you guys think of a Muslim supplying to a non-halal restaurant? I personally do can't find any issues there though I would love another opinion  hmm.gif
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I think its ok... Kan jual beli dengan bukan muslim harus...correct me if I'm wrong
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QUOTE(samuraikacang @ Jan 13 2015, 11:16 AM)
I just ignore whatever notoriusfiq statement, apparently he is here to ensure the thread get derailed.

May Allah have mercy on him.
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I get where notoriousfiq's view coming from, as i understand it. But you didnt. So you cant say that he, or anybody else here is wrong
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QUOTE(samuraikacang @ Jan 13 2015, 11:16 AM)
I just ignore whatever notoriusfiq statement, apparently he is here to ensure the thread get derailed.

May Allah have mercy on him.
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+1. realised this a bit late but not too late i think.
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QUOTE(hirano @ Jan 14 2015, 12:47 PM)
I get where notoriousfiq's view coming from, as i understand it. But you didnt. So you cant say that he, or anybody else here is wrong
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woah.. sudah ada opponent biggrin.gif I wonder berapa percent traditionalist muslims dalam /k nih.. hmm.gif

You are entitled to your opinion. Up to you (as long as you dont hurt/oppress others). If you lock your mind, only read teachings that you are used too, then how can you call that belief? How can you call that iman?

And if you really believe in this world today there is only one Islam, which is what you practice right now, ...oh my.. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(notoriousfiq @ Jan 14 2015, 02:03 PM)
woah.. sudah ada opponent  biggrin.gif I wonder berapa percent traditionalist muslims dalam /k nih..  hmm.gif

You are entitled to your opinion. Up to you (as long as you dont hurt/oppress others). If you lock your mind, only read teachings that you are used too, then how can you call that belief? How can you call that iman?

And if you really believe in this world today there is only one Islam, which is what you practice right now, ...oh my..  laugh.gif
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salam bro, kalau ada masa pergi la pusat2 pengajian islam atau pun rujuk pada ustaz2 kat jabatan agama islam yang bertauliah.
moga bro jumpa pencerahan yang sewajarnye berkenaan permasaalahan bro tu

sememangnya ramai umat islam yang mcm bro skrg, and tak dinafikan tak semua umat islam tu ada kekuatan dan pengetahuan yang cukup luas utk hadapi orang2 yang mcm bro (compliment ye)

masa kat u pun aku pernah kena tanya mcm2 pasal islam yang kdg2 smpi buat aku keliru
and someone bgtau aku amik wudhuk, solat sunat 2 rakaat betul2, mintak Allah kuatkan iman
nabi pernah ckp, fitnah dan ujian utk umat dia akhir zaman nanti mmg sgt besar & dahsyat


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QUOTE(WinkyJr @ Jan 14 2015, 03:53 PM)
salam bro, kalau ada masa pergi la pusat2 pengajian islam atau pun rujuk pada ustaz2 kat jabatan agama islam yang bertauliah.
moga bro jumpa pencerahan yang sewajarnye berkenaan permasaalahan bro tu
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Thanks atas peringatan. I appreciate your positiveness walaupun kita tidak sependapat.

Tanya ustaz2, memang bagus, tapi dekat Malaysia semua pendapat yang serupa, hampir semua pun dalam Shafie. Sebab tu, aku suka baca2 ajaran2 lain jugak, selain Malaysia.

Baguslah kau banyak tanya. Sangat bagus. Itu yang patut orang Malaysia buat sekarang. Tanya. Tapi mereka takut tanya, sebab mereka percaya kalau tanya tu maksudnya menolak Islam. Jadi ramai buat taqleed saja. Just follow thier ustaz without thinking.
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QUOTE(hirano @ Jan 14 2015, 12:47 PM)
I get where notoriousfiq's view coming from, as i understand it. But you didnt. So you cant say that he, or anybody else here is wrong
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Thanks for assuming that I don't understand what notoriousfiq view. I understand what he is trying to do so I choose to ignore. the very fact Muslim like you makes other muslim looks bad by assuming on their behalf. I already unsubscribe from this thread because doesn't enrich my knowledge smile.gif

May Allah have His mercy on you and me
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QUOTE(notoriousfiq @ Jan 14 2015, 02:03 PM)
woah.. sudah ada opponent  biggrin.gif I wonder berapa percent traditionalist muslims dalam /k nih..  hmm.gif

You are entitled to your opinion. Up to you (as long as you dont hurt/oppress others). If you lock your mind, only read teachings that you are used too, then how can you call that belief? How can you call that iman?

And if you really believe in this world today there is only one Islam, which is what you practice right now, ...oh my..  laugh.gif
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Of course theres only one Islam. Islam tak berdua, bertiga, berbyk2. Di penghujung zaman akan ada 73 jalan, tp hanya satu sahaja jalan yg lurus... brows.gif
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Of course theres only one Islam. Islam tak berdua, bertiga, berbyk2. Di penghujung zaman akan ada 73 jalan, tp hanya satu sahaja jalan yg lurus...  brows.gif
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Betuuuuuuuuul. Itu sememangnya pasti. Aku 100% setuju, captain obvious!

Ini lah masalah nya. Orang salah faham apa yang cuba disampaikan. Cepat sangat bertanggapan orang lain salah. Islam yang di bawa oleh Nabi Muhammad sememangnya satu.

Yang aku cakap ialah, ajaran Islam pada hari ini, banyak. Bukan hari ini saja, even sejak zaman khulafa yang pertama pun, sudah ada berlainan pendapat. Seribu tahun kmudian makin banyak lah jenis2 nya. Bukan aku cakap semua betul atau semua salah.

Harap ini dapat jelaskan keadaan.



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seronok baca pendapat pendapat korang.
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i think ts should update 1st post to be more informative and descriptive
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i think ts should update 1st post to be more informative and descriptive
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Islam truly a diversity religions.
Islam is not about to be an Arab.
But Islam is more on we submission to only one God.

Islam is not a extremist religions.
Islam is not about ISIS.
Islam is about peace.

Learn about Islam not from Media.
Learn about Islam not from Govt.
Learn about Islam not from Cleric.
Learn about Islam not from Individual.
But, learn about Islam from Quran.

Look at the video.
See the smile of the people.
See their diversity.
Different skin colour.
Different types of clothing.
We are not Arab with a turban and AK-47 in our hand.
We just want leave happy life.

Salam

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Hi Muslims.

With all due respect, I wish to declare that I know that there are among Muslims who are not like the extremists you see in the media, but I have several questions.

We all know that Islamophobia is obviously an irrelevant prejudice towards the religion, but may I ask how does one religion, say other than Islam itself, can attain a similar amount of prejudice as today's Islamophobia?
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QUOTE(Deadlocks @ Jan 15 2015, 09:28 AM)
Hi Muslims.

With all due respect, I wish to declare that I know that there are among Muslims who are not like the extremists you see in the media, but I have several questions.

We all know that Islamophobia is obviously an irrelevant prejudice towards the religion, but may I ask how does one religion, say other than Islam itself, can attain a similar amount of prejudice as today's Islamophobia?
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First, you can see the video I post above.
The diversity among the Muslim.

The issues about Islamophobia is related with mind control.
Mind control is under the media influence.
Media from the West always portray Muslim as an Arab nomads tribe,
with turban and carry Ak-47 or rocket launcher.

Same situation in Malaysia.
Islam and politics always relate together in the media.
Non-Muslim has negative view on Islam because
the poor statement make by politician.

Besides, you can't judge a half-past six Christian
to know the Christianity.
Same logic apply to Islam, if you want to know about
Islam. Better for you to meet someone which devote
and fully understand on the religions.
Someone not influence from political movement.
We can't simply assume the mat rempit or terrorist
represent the Islam way of life.
Even not all Malay represent the good value of Islam.

Quran always wrongly interpret by the extremist.
For example, Osama just quotes the verse from Quran
relate with killing the infidel.
However, the verse quotes from Osama is not complete
and there are explanation from God which types of
infidel can be kill by the Muslim.
Osama not mention any verse about God mercy, love and
forgiven.

Same with Jihad.
Muslim wrongly interpret the words Jihad.
Jihad actually means "struggle".
There are 2 types of Jihad which are inner and outer self.
The biggest Jihad is inner self.
To battle with our inner lust and sin.
Transform our self to become a good Muslim.
The jihad to go war is the outer jihad and actually is small types of jihad.
This jihad is necessary when we be oppress by someone.
For example, people come to our land and kill our family.
However, this types of Jihad is wrongly interpret by the extremist.

The best answer to know about Islam is read the Quran.
You can read the Quran translation in English.
Islam is all about "ilm".
Ilm = Knowledge
To gain knowledge you must read by yourself.
Not blindly trust other people to tell you about Islam.

I also don't want you to fully agree with my statement.
However, you can take my suggestion to read the Quran.
To gain knowledge about Islam by yourself.

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QUOTE(Dozen @ Jan 15 2015, 10:00 AM)
First, you can see the video I post above.
The diversity among the Muslim.

The issues about Islamophobia is related with mind control.
Mind control is under the media influence.
Media from the West always portray Muslim as an Arab nomads tribe,
with turban and carry Ak-47 or rocket launcher.

Same situation in Malaysia.
Islam and politics always relate together in the media.
Non-Muslim has negative view on Islam because
the poor statement make by politician.

Besides, you can't judge a half-past six Christian
to know the Christianity.
Same logic apply to Islam, if you want to know about
Islam. Better for you to meet someone which devote
and fully understand on the religions.
Someone not influence from political movement.
We can't simply assume the mat rempit or terrorist
represent the Islam way of life.
Even not all Malay represent the good value of Islam.

Quran always wrongly interpret by the extremist.
For example, Osama just quotes the verse from Quran
relate with killing the infidel.
However, the verse quotes from Osama is not complete
and there are explanation from God which types of
infidel can be kill by the Muslim.
Osama not mention any verse about God mercy, love and
forgiven.

Same with Jihad.
Muslim wrongly interpret the words Jihad.
Jihad actually means "struggle".
There are 2 types of Jihad which are inner and outer self.
The biggest Jihad is inner self.
To battle with our inner lust and sin.
Transform our self to become a good Muslim.
The jihad to go war is the outer jihad and actually is small types of jihad.
This jihad is necessary when we be oppress by someone.
For example, people come to our land and kill our family.
However, this types of Jihad is wrongly interpret by the extremist.

The best answer to know about Islam is read the Quran.
You can read the Quran translation in English.
Islam is all about "ilm".
Ilm = Knowledge
To gain knowledge you must read by yourself.
Not blindly trust other people to tell you about Islam.

I also don't want you to fully agree with my statement.
However, you can take my suggestion to read the Quran.
To gain knowledge about Islam by yourself.

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I'm sorry, but I don't think you understand my question. I already know that being a muslim does not mean being an extremist, and I already know that full and well.

I'm asking how should other religions should be portrayed in order to attain the same kind of prejudice which coined the term, 'Islamophobia' in the first place.

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QUOTE(Deadlocks @ Jan 15 2015, 10:10 AM)
I'm sorry, but I don't think you understand my question. I already know that being a muslim does not means being an extremist, and I already know that full and well.

I'm asking how should other religions should be portrayed in order to attain the same kind of prejudice which coined the term, 'Islamophobia' in the first place.
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QUOTE(Deadlocks @ Jan 15 2015, 10:10 AM)
I'm sorry, but I don't think you understand my question. I already know that being a muslim does not means being an extremist, and I already know that full and well.

I'm asking how should other religions should be portrayed in order to attain the same kind of prejudice which coined the term, 'Islamophobia' in the first place.
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It is quite simple actually.
You just need to be a religion that the others already know that is the last and true religion from the only god in their own religion. Those that have power will try to subdue the religion because their fear of loosing the current followers. Which would also means loosing wealth and power. Since they did not win with brute force, they try with mind control.
Of course, i can give you a better reason/ method but my post on it will be deleted and i may be banned.
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QUOTE(Deadlocks @ Jan 15 2015, 10:10 AM)
I'm sorry, but I don't think you understand my question. I already know that being a muslim does not means being an extremist, and I already know that full and well.

I'm asking how should other religions should be portrayed in order to attain the same kind of prejudice which coined the term, 'Islamophobia' in the first place.
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Any religions have their own extremist.
We can find in their past history.
Some religions still extreme towards minority Muslim.
However, I hate to relate any religions with extremist.
For me, all religions guide the people to be good.
All religions have influence on our morality.

For example,
Not all Jews are evil.
The evil Jews are Zionist.
They are Jews which condemn the act of the Israel Govt.
They are Jews which rejected violence.

Maybe other Muslim can share their other opinion on your question.
But for me, I believe religions is the guide for humanity to
has a positive morality, ethics and behavior in our daily life.

Maybe your question is more related with media.
The media has the biggest influences to portrayed the religions
in today modern world.


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QUOTE(xein @ Jan 15 2015, 10:28 AM)
It is quite simple actually.
You just need to be a religion that the others already know that is the last and true religion from the only god in their own religion. Those that have power will try to subdue the religion because their fear of loosing the current followers. Which would also means loosing wealth and power. Since they did not win with brute force, they try with mind control.
Of course, i can give you a better reason/ method but my post on it will be deleted and i may be banned.
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While I agree that Islam has been misrepresented accordingly by the media, may I kindly inquire if other religions may also be equally misrepresented as well? That is the core of my question. If other religions can indeed be equally be misrepresented, will they also have equal amount of extremism that will be associated with it?

Example. Let's use the power of the media to misrepresent Buddhism. Due to such misrepresentation, will worshipers / followers of the Buddhism faith / philosophy also conceive similar amount of extremism that we see today that is associated with the Islam religion?

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^ idk about buddhism as i dont have much knowledge about it. but if you look at judaism, you will see only small amount of followers are against zionist, the rest are either quiet about it or support the organization. thats the reason why some of us here confused when speaking about judaism/zionist. they hijacking the jews the same way as terrorists hijacking the muslims. that is why we need to prevent the terrorists before its getting synonym as jews/zionist.
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QUOTE(tentang rasa @ Jan 15 2015, 12:07 PM)
^ idk about buddhism as i dont have much knowledge about it. but if you look at judaism, you will see only small amount of followers are against zionist, the rest are either quiet about it or support the organization. thats the reason why some of us here confused when speaking about judaism/zionist. they hijacking the jews the same way as terrorists hijacking the muslims. that is why we need to prevent the terrorists before its getting synonym as jews/zionist.
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I suppose this has nothing to do with my question as well?
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I suppose this has nothing to do with my question as well?
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youre asking about how does the terrorist groups affect its followers/amounts yes?
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youre asking about how does the terrorist groups affect its followers/amounts yes?
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Err. no. Let me copy and paste my question again:

"I'm asking how should other religions should be portrayed in order to attain the same kind of prejudice which coined the term, 'Islamophobia' in the first place."

Which is also the same as:

"While I agree that Islam has been misrepresented accordingly by the media, may I kindly inquire if other religions may also be equally misrepresented as well? That is the core of my question. If other religions can indeed be equally be misrepresented, will they also have equal amount of extremism that will be associated with it?

Example. Let's use the power of the media to misrepresent Buddhism. Due to such misrepresentation, will worshipers / followers of the Buddhism faith / philosophy also conceive similar amount of extremism that we see today that is associated with the Islam religion?"


In short:

How should other religions be portrayed similarly to Islam, so that they may be similarly misrepresented by the media, and ended up with equal amount of extremism, similar to the Islam religion which you see in today's media?

Example. Say you are the media. What would you do to misrepresent a religion (Shintoism, Buddhism, etc), so that it will also conceive the same amount of misrepresentation and extremism, just like how the media today has done to the Islam religion?

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Err. no. Let me copy and paste my question again:

"I'm asking how should other religions should be portrayed in order to attain the same kind of prejudice which coined the term, 'Islamophobia' in the first place."

Which is also the same as:

"While I agree that Islam has been misrepresented accordingly by the media, may I kindly inquire if other religions may also be equally misrepresented as well? That is the core of my question. If other religions can indeed be equally be misrepresented, will they also have equal amount of extremism that will be associated with it?

Example. Let's use the power of the media to misrepresent Buddhism. Due to such misrepresentation, will worshipers / followers of the Buddhism faith / philosophy also conceive similar amount of extremism that we see today that is associated with the Islam religion?"


In short:

How should other religions be portrayed similarly to Islam, so that they may be similarly misrepresented by the media, and ended up with equal amount of extremism, similar to the Islam religion which you see in today's media?

Example. Say you are the media. What would you do to misrepresent a religion, so that it will also conceive the same amount of misrepresentation and extremism, just like how the media has done to the Islam religion?
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idk about it since i dont have much knowledge about Shintoism, Buddhism, etc.. you can ask the official thread of it.

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QUOTE(tentang rasa @ Jan 15 2015, 12:30 PM)
idk about it since i dont have much knowledge about Shintoism, Buddhism, etc.. you can ask the official thread of it.
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What about "etc"? It doesn't have to be Buddhism or Shintoism. It can be any religion. That is why I used "etc" in the sentence.
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QUOTE(Deadlocks @ Jan 15 2015, 12:22 PM)
Err. no. Let me copy and paste my question again:

"I'm asking how should other religions should be portrayed in order to attain the same kind of prejudice which coined the term, 'Islamophobia' in the first place."

Which is also the same as:

"While I agree that Islam has been misrepresented accordingly by the media, may I kindly inquire if other religions may also be equally misrepresented as well? That is the core of my question. If other religions can indeed be equally be misrepresented, will they also have equal amount of extremism that will be associated with it?

Example. Let's use the power of the media to misrepresent Buddhism. Due to such misrepresentation, will worshipers / followers of the Buddhism faith / philosophy also conceive similar amount of extremism that we see today that is associated with the Islam religion?"


In short:

How should other religions be portrayed similarly to Islam, so that they may be similarly misrepresented by the media, and ended up with equal amount of extremism, similar to the Islam religion which you see in today's media?

Example. Say you are the media. What would you do to misrepresent a religion (Shintoism, Buddhism, etc), so that it will also conceive the same amount of misrepresentation and extremism, just like how the media today has done to the Islam religion?
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well, If I were the media, I would always tell the stories about how these bad people who happened to be of certain religions over and over again.
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QUOTE(nevland @ Jan 15 2015, 12:34 PM)
well, If I were the media, I would always tell the stories about how these bad people who happened to be of certain religions over and over again.
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But will you be able to conceive an equal amount of misrepresentation + extremism that is similar with the misrepresentation from today's media towards the Islam religion? And if you can, how would you do it?
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But will you be able to conceive an equal amount of misrepresentation + extremism that is similar with the misrepresentation from today's media towards the Islam religion? And if you can, how would you do it?
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that would be impossible to tell / predict. you know that the media is controlled by certain group of people... right?

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that would be impossible to tell / predict. you know that the media is controlled by certain group of people... right?
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I understand. But this is why the question I presented is a hypothetical one, in order to find out if one has all the power to control the media, how will he or she misrepresent a religion or a system of belief, so that it matches to the misrepresentation and the extremism involve in the Islam religion by today's media?
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QUOTE(Deadlocks @ Jan 15 2015, 12:58 PM)
I understand. But this is why the question I presented is a hypothetical one, in order to find out if one has all the power to control the media, how will he or she misrepresent a religion or a system of belief, so that it matches to the misrepresentation and the extremism involve in the Islam religion by today's media?
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actually the amount of misrepresentations arent much.. its the same thing over and over again with same stories but different groups.. perhaps they want to instill fear feeling towards <put whatever religion here>. you know that 'fear' can be a tool to get anything they want right?

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actually the amount of misrepresentations arent much.. its the same thing over and over again with same stories with different groups.. perhaps they want to instill fear feeling towards islam. you know that 'fear' can be a tool to get anything they want right?
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As I've said in my earlier posts. I understand how Islam was misrepresented (goodness, how many times have I repeat myself in regards of this?), be it via fear, propaganda, and etc.

The question is it possible to misrepresent other religions or systems of belief with an equal amount of prejudice and extremism that is similar to the Islam religion? If so, how would the power of media do it?

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QUOTE(Deadlocks @ Jan 15 2015, 01:15 PM)
As I've said in my earlier posts. I understand how Islam was misrepresented (goodness, how many times have I repeat myself in regards of this?).

The question is it possible to misrepresent other religions or systems of belief with an equal amount of prejudice and extremism that is similar to the Islam religion? If so, how would the power of media do it?
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Of course it's possible. You're basically answering your question. The media will do it the same way they have done it with Islam.
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Of course it's possible. You're basically answering your question. The media will do it the same way they have done it with Islam.
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Thanks. So what exactly that was misrepresented with the Islam religion by the media, that conceives the amount of extremism that we know today? While I understand it is easy to say, "of course the media can do the same kind of damage to the other religions if they want it", but how would they've done it? Will it be more difficult to misrepresent a specific religion in comparison to another?

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Thanks. So what exactly that was misrepresented with the Islam religion by the media, that conceives the amount of extremism that we know today? While I understand it is easy to say, "of course the media can do the same kind of damage to the other religions if they want it", but how would they've done it? Will it be more difficult to misrepresent a specific religion in comparison to another?
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Well generally speaking, it's very complicated the whole Islam and media ordeal. However, basically, the media takes any killings or shootings where the perpetrators are Muslims and broadcast that news to fuel islamaphobia without actually knowing whether the cause was religiously motivated or something else. In reality, it doesn't really have to be about killings or shooting. Its very complicated and difficult to explain but basically that's what happened. And it could be done to any and/or every religion that exist out there. It's pretty safe to say that the degree of difficulty isn't really important.
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QUOTE(livesnextd00r @ Jan 15 2015, 01:45 PM)
Well generally speaking, it's very complicated the whole Islam and media ordeal. However, basically, the media takes any killings or shootings where the perpetrators are Muslims and broadcast that news to fuel islamaphobia without actually knowing whether the cause was religiously motivated or something else. In reality, it doesn't really have to be about killings or shooting. Its very complicated and difficult to explain but basically that's what happened. And it could be done to any and/or every religion that exist out there. It's pretty safe to say that the degree of difficulty isn't really important.
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I would like to believe you, but I suppose you can't blame me if I am to be skeptical to think Buddhism may conceive an equal amount of extremism as compared to Islam, even with an equal amount of misrepresentation of the Buddhist religion.

For example:

1) <Insert an inappropriate, lewd misrepresentation here> for the Islam religion by the media.
2) <Insert the same lewd misrepresentation here> for the Buddhism by the media.

How wrong would I be, if I am skeptical that Buddhism will conceive the same amount of extremism in response to the aforementioned, inappropriate, lewd misrepresentations by the media?

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QUOTE(Deadlocks @ Jan 15 2015, 01:15 PM)
As I've said in my earlier posts. I understand how Islam was misrepresented (goodness, how many times have I repeat myself in regards of this?), be it via fear, propaganda, and etc.

The question is it possible to misrepresent other religions or systems of belief with an equal amount of prejudice and extremism that is similar to the Islam religion? If so, how would the power of media do it?
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maybe you should watch a Hindi movie, PK
a very good movie
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Deadlocks, what you are asking is dangerous and baiting hate. Seems like you are asking us may / how do we misinterpret other religions so that they will get "hated" just like how the "west hating Islam".

If I define your question correctly, I suggest people here to NOT answer this question. We should not fight fire with fire, hate with hate.

It may be hypothetical, Deadlocks, but it still baiting hate. So please don't make other people conceive this bad ideas. If you really have to have it, you have to conceive it by yourself. But I'm not sure if you should, don't fill your mind with hate.

Second of all, you are saying, after the media misinterpret a religion, the followers will "also conceive extremism". This is not how it works.

Third of all, if I define your question wrongly (I'm sure I didn't) please correct me and disregard what I said above.

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QUOTE(nevland @ Jan 15 2015, 03:06 PM)
maybe you should watch a Hindi movie, PK
a very good movie
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Err, okay?

QUOTE(notoriousfiq @ Jan 15 2015, 03:07 PM)
Deadlocks, what you are asking is dangerous and baiting hate. Seems like you are asking us may / how do we misinterpret other religions so that they will get "hated" just like how the "west hating Islam".
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Not really. It's not how "we" or "y'all" misinterpret other religions, but it is how the media misrepresents a religion / belief system.

But of course, I apologize for any misunderstandings due to this. I am ready to explain myself whenever possible in order to clear any misunderstandings.

QUOTE(notoriousfiq @ Jan 15 2015, 03:07 PM)
If I define your question correctly, I suggest people here to NOT answer this question. We should not fight fire with fire, hate with hate.

It may be hypothetical, Deadlocks, but it still baiting hate. So please don't make other people conceive this  bad ideas. If you really have to have it, you have to conceive it by yourself. But I'm not sure if you should, don't fill your mind with hate.
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I do not intend anyone to conceive any bad ideas. The purpose of the hypothetical question is to understand further how a religion is misrepresented by the media so badly that somehow conceived the amount of extremism as sensationalized by the media. By understanding how other religions can also be equally misrepresented by the media, perhaps we will be able to eradicate or lessen the effects of Islamophobia in the world.

In other words, it's not really hate vs. hate, as you have put it. It is understanding vs. understanding.

QUOTE(notoriousfiq @ Jan 15 2015, 03:07 PM)
Second of all, you are saying, after the media misinterpret a religion, the followers will "also conceive extremism". This is not how it works.
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The only reason why I would say such a thing, because I was unable to see the same conception without the misrepresentation of the media in the first place. Without any misrepresentation from the media, will it still conceive an equal amount of extremism? If this is the case, then I will submit to you, that I am wrong, and I will continue with my research.

QUOTE(notoriousfiq @ Jan 15 2015, 03:07 PM)
Third of all, if I define your question wrongly (I'm sure I didn't) please correct me and disregard what I said above.
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It is important to understand that I am only seeking answers, and never have I blatantly accuse anything or anyone that should bait any hate in the first place.

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QUOTE(Deadlocks @ Jan 15 2015, 03:25 PM)


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It's the same thing. Not about the individual, its about the "how" that you are asking. I don't think people here should conceive the how and tell you. You do it yourself. Or better yet, don't at all.

I don't mean to accuse you, but you sound really fishy, man.. talking about "how other religions can also be equally misrepresented by the media". This is NOT the question you should be asking in order to understand this whole picture.

"By understanding how other religions can also be equally misrepresented by the media, perhaps we will be able to eradicate or lessen the effects of Islamophobia in the world."
I told you: We should NOT fight hate with hate. Your idea is how does one put hate on one (other religions) to lessen hate on another (Islam)? You don't do this.

And as I said before: One "conceive extremism" NOT after "misrepresentation from the media". Your question is based on your misunderstanding, that's why no one can answer it.
It seems like you don't quite understand what is extremism. You seem to see "extremism" to mean "prejudice" or "discrimination".

HOW is not the question you should ask. But you did, that's why I said you sound fishy and dangerous.

You should ask WHY. Why does the media portray Islam in a bad way.
The answer is IGNORANCE.
The answer is FEAR.
The answer is ARROGANCE.

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QUOTE(Deadlocks @ Jan 15 2015, 03:25 PM)
Err, okay?
Not really. It's not how "we" or "y'all" misinterpret other religions, but it is how the media misrepresents a religion / belief system.

But of course, I apologize for any misunderstandings due to this. I am ready to explain myself whenever possible in order to clear any misunderstandings.
I do not intend anyone to conceive any bad ideas. The purpose of the hypothetical question is to understand further how a religion is misrepresented by the media so badly that somehow conceived the amount of extremism as sensationalized by the media. By understanding how other religions can also be equally misrepresented by the media, perhaps we will be able to eradicate or lessen the effects of Islamophobia in the world.

In other words, it's not really hate vs. hate, as you have put it. It is understanding vs. understanding.
The only reason why I would say such a thing, because I was unable to see the same conception without the misrepresentation of the media in the first place. Without any misrepresentation from the media, will it still conceive an equal amount of extremism? If this is the case, then I will submit to you, that I am wrong, and I will continue with my research.
It is important to understand that I am only seeking answers, and never have I blatantly accuse anything or anyone that should bait any hate in the first place.
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alright..


http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/africa...f5fb_story.html


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QUOTE(notoriousfiq @ Jan 15 2015, 03:51 PM)
It's the same thing. Not about the individual, its about the "how" that you are asking. I don't think people here should conceive the how and tell you. You do it yourself. Or better yet, don't at all.

I don't mean to accuse you, but you sound really fishy, man.. talking about "how other religions can also be equally misrepresented by the media". This is NOT the question you should be asking in order to understand this whole picture.

"By understanding how other religions can also be equally misrepresented by the media, perhaps we will be able to eradicate or lessen the effects of Islamophobia in the world."
I told you: We should NOT fight hate with hate. Your idea is how does one put hate on one (other religions) to lessen hate on another (Islam)? You don't do this.

And as I said before: One "conceive extremism" NOT after "misrepresentation from the media". Your question is based on your misunderstanding, that's why no one can answer it.
It seems like you don't quite understand what is extremism. You seem to see "extremism" to mean "prejudice" or "discrimination".

HOW is not the question you should ask. But you did, that's why I said you sound fishy and dangerous.

You should ask WHY. Why does the media portray Islam in a bad way.
The answer is IGNORANCE.
The answer is FEAR.
The answer is ARROGANCE.
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Well then, I have gathered enough understanding from your attitude towards how hypothetical questions can be considered as "dangerous", instead of the attempt to even understand it. I shall proceed further in the RWI section, hopefully with people who are more level-headed and prepared to think about the issue instead of evading the question altogether. I apologize for any misunderstandings and inconveniences caused, but I sincerely think that the calling it a "dangerous" question isn't as dangerous as the act of blatant evasion of the questions in the first place.

I don't think the question is dangerous. I think the act of not questioning is dangerous. Different perspectives, I know. Until then, I fear for what might what happen to me if I continue asking (since my questions have already been labelled as "dangerous"), and as a result I shall refrain from asking my questions here in this thread, or in any Muslim community ever. I don't want to be labelled as "dangerous".

Until such questions do not bring upon the fear of being "dangerous", I will not return to this thread. Farewell, and thank you very much for your time.
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QUOTE(Deadlocks @ Jan 15 2015, 04:15 PM)
Well then, I have gathered enough understanding from your attitude towards how hypothetical questions can be considered as "dangerous", instead of the attempt to even understand it. I shall proceed further in the RWI section, hopefully with people who are more level-headed and prepared to think about the issue instead of evading the question altogether. I apologize for any misunderstandings and inconveniences caused, but I sincerely think that the calling it a "dangerous" question isn't as dangerous as the act of blatant evasion of the questions in the first place.

I don't think the question is dangerous. I think the act of not questioning is dangerous. Different perspectives, I know. Until then, I fear for what might what happen to me if I continue asking (since my questions have already been labelled as "dangerous"), and as a result I shall refrain from asking my questions here in this thread, or in any Muslim community ever. I don't want to be labelled as "dangerous".

Until such questions do not bring upon the fear of being "dangerous", I will not return to this thread. Farewell, and thank you very much for your time.
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I just disagree with the need to ask the HOW. To solve this problem, we should ask the WHY. I didn't say don't question at all, but ask the right question; the why.

That's my opinion.
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Sigh....
if you really looked into the european history, you would find that the jews were once treated with hate and associated with plague carriers and a lot of maladies. So much that walls were built to confine them.
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QUOTE(notoriousfiq @ Jan 14 2015, 07:32 PM)
Betuuuuuuuuul. Itu sememangnya pasti. Aku 100% setuju, captain obvious!

Ini lah masalah nya. Orang salah faham apa yang cuba disampaikan. Cepat sangat bertanggapan orang lain salah. Islam yang di bawa oleh Nabi Muhammad sememangnya satu.

Yang aku cakap ialah, ajaran Islam pada hari ini, banyak. Bukan hari ini saja, even sejak zaman khulafa yang pertama pun, sudah ada berlainan pendapat. Seribu tahun kmudian makin banyak lah jenis2 nya. Bukan aku cakap semua betul atau semua salah.

Harap ini dapat jelaskan keadaan.
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Ah yes. Pendapat mmg ada byk khilaf dikalangan ulama', but doesnt mean all of them wrong. Its like cars, one maybe modify it to be fast, but another would modify it to be fuel efficient. Then again, both are not wrong, still gets from point A to point B. As long as it follows the Quran and Sunnah though. tongue.gif

Mcm beza 4 mazhab kita, x salah nk ikut mazhab lain, tp akhlak mengikut mazhab setempat pun kena ikut. Which explains its preferred not to follow other mazhabs in our country since we practice mazhab syafie, mengundang fitnah pada diri sendiri itu adalah haram.

Sorry for the misinterpretation. icon_rolleyes.gif

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QUOTE(aimank_88 @ Jan 15 2015, 09:02 PM)
Mcm beza 4 mazhab kita, x salah nk ikut mazhab lain, tp akhlak mengikut mazhab setempat pun kena ikut. Which explains its preferred not to follow other mazhabs in our country since we practice mazhab syafie, mengundang fitnah pada diri sendiri itu adalah haram.

Sorry for the misinterpretation.    icon_rolleyes.gif
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Naah, it's okay. All good.
Kalau ada rule "kena ikut mazhab setempat" tu memang aku tidak setuju lah. Kepercayaan kita, fikiran masing2.

Tapi, dari segi akhlak, basically tiada beza yang signifikan pun, sama ja 4 mazhab utama sunni, boleh bersetuju dan bersatu. Cuma dari segi usulul fiqh, situ yang biasa ada berlainan pendapat.
Yang penting jangan sampai kita berpecah atas pendapat yang berbeza, tapi bersatu atas pendapat yang sama.
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hello kawan sekalian
nak tanya sikit tentang sunat bole?
masa sunat saya punya 2", sekarang tiba2 makin memanjang :confuse:
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QUOTE(meistsh_musical @ Jan 16 2015, 09:03 AM)
hello kawan sekalian
nak tanya sikit tentang sunat bole?
masa sunat saya punya 2", sekarang tiba2 makin memanjang :confuse:
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Dah bebas...Tak terkurung lagi.
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QUOTE(xein @ Jan 16 2015, 11:44 AM)
Dah bebas...Tak terkurung lagi.
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underwear x bole pakai dah.... sangat ketat cry.gif
i dun wan wear boxer
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QUOTE(Deadlocks @ Jan 15 2015, 12:22 PM)
Err. no. Let me copy and paste my question again:

"I'm asking how should other religions should be portrayed in order to attain the same kind of prejudice which coined the term, 'Islamophobia' in the first place."

Which is also the same as:

"While I agree that Islam has been misrepresented accordingly by the media, may I kindly inquire if other religions may also be equally misrepresented as well? That is the core of my question. If other religions can indeed be equally be misrepresented, will they also have equal amount of extremism that will be associated with it?

Example. Let's use the power of the media to misrepresent Buddhism. Due to such misrepresentation, will worshipers / followers of the Buddhism faith / philosophy also conceive similar amount of extremism that we see today that is associated with the Islam religion?"


In short:

How should other religions be portrayed similarly to Islam, so that they may be similarly misrepresented by the media, and ended up with equal amount of extremism, similar to the Islam religion which you see in today's media?

Example. Say you are the media. What would you do to misrepresent a religion (Shintoism, Buddhism, etc), so that it will also conceive the same amount of misrepresentation and extremism, just like how the media today has done to the Islam religion?
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not sure if this answers the questions, but in the case of islam, it gained prominence due to the number of followers which are spread worldwide, instead of mostly focus to a specific geographic region (i.e:- hinduism, shintoism and buddhism). thus the level of exposure, representation and misrepresentation greatly differs.

it might not be religion, but i suppose, a similar analogy to your case would be that of communism and its media representation during the cold war. even to us in malaysia, the stigma remains.

and btw, im assuming, when we talked about "media," its the western media.

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QUOTE(meistsh_musical @ Jan 16 2015, 10:50 AM)
underwear  x bole pakai dah.... sangat ketat  cry.gif
i dun wan wear boxer
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What? You wear bikini?
Real man wear boxer!
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QUOTE(meistsh_musical @ Jan 16 2015, 10:50 AM)
underwear  x bole pakai dah.... sangat ketat  cry.gif
i dun wan wear boxer
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Last time i use to wear underwear. Bila start wear boxer, i never look back.
Only certain time only i wear underwear laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Daniel Alexander @ Jan 16 2015, 09:00 PM)
Last time i use to wear underwear. Bila start wear boxer, i never look back.
Only certain time only i wear underwear laugh.gif
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wear boxer no flip flip?? hmm.gif if terstim girl saw it?
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wear boxer no flip flip??  hmm.gif if terstim girl saw it?
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Only those with low self control will terstim.


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