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post Aug 2 2014, 05:22 PM, updated 6y ago

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Development Name: SkyLuxe On The Park @ Bukit Jalil

Developer: SkyLuxe Development Sdn Bhd, a member of SkyWorld Group

Property Type: Service Apartment

Compliance: HDA - for Residential Use

Land Title: Commercial

Land Tenure: Freehold

Land Area: 1.85 acres

Total Blocks: 2 blocks of 44-storeys

Total Units: 477 units
- Tower A: 225 units
- Tower B: 252 units

Total Units Per Floor:
- 7 units per floor in Tower A
- 8 units per floor in Tower B

Total Lifts:
- 4 lifts / central core at each tower block
- Including 1 service lift with double-sided door to serve enclosed service area

Targeted Official Launch: July 2016

Unit Types:
- Type A: 661 - 727 sq ft (1+1)
- Type B: 1,011 - 1,083 sq ft (3)
- Type B1: 1,024 - 1,087 sq ft (2+1)
- Type C: 905 - 978 sq ft (2+1)
- Type D: 1,140 - 1,205 sq ft (3)
- Type D1: 1,130 - 1,224 sq ft (3)

View Orientation:
- KL City (North)
- Park View (West)
- Golf Course/Stadium View (East)
- Park/TPM View (South)

Est. Maintenance: RM0.35 psf including sf

Example Price: Unit A-12-6 / 1,063 sf / RM769,000 / RM723 psf before rebates

Main Concepts:

1. Singapore BCA's CONQUAS Qualification.

2. GBI-rated residential-use development in Bukit Jalil.

3. Parkhomes lifestyle, towering over country resort.

4. Purely residential, no commercial/retail shop.

5. Dual exit checkpoint (for car).

6. Grand drop off feature via driveway/porte cochère.

7. Un-uniform facade with different feel at different angle.

8. Living area: Full height glass panel / slide door for balcony units.

9. Tampered glass balcony wall, including those with sides.

10. Semi-D layout for each unit. Type C is a bungalow unit.

11. Unit layouts are designed to maximise views.

12. Balcony units: extra length single balconies or dual balconies.

13. Private locker/storage at carpark podium (selected units).

14. Type A has 1 carpark bay. The rest 2 carpark bays and Type D1 with 3 carpark bays.

15. Over 30 facilities present at 4 levels.
- Ground Floor
- Level 9 and 10
- Level 24 and 25
- Level 43/44

16. Rooftop "bird nest": One of Bukit Jalil's tallest buildings.

17. You can cycle across the Park to regional mall - Pavilion Bukit Jalil (with mall bridge-to-park).

...and many more.
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QUOTE(accetera @ Aug 2 2014, 05:22 PM)
Project is coming soon.

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developer? sizes? indicate price? when launch?
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Location tip: Calvary Church and Taman Bukit Jalil.
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QUOTE(accetera @ Aug 2 2014, 05:42 PM)
Location tip: Calvary Church and Taman Bukit Jalil.
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By Ho hup?
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QUOTE(simeonelee78 @ Aug 2 2014, 05:44 PM)
By Ho hup?
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QUOTE(accetera @ Aug 2 2014, 05:22 PM)
Project is coming soon.

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Sui sui design! Cool one!

Service apartment? Bawah commercial?

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By SkyWorld.
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Why all name skyworld. Give different name la.
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post Aug 2 2014, 06:12 PM

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Wah dam beautiful!
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QUOTE(Babizz @ Aug 2 2014, 06:12 PM)
Wah dam beautiful!
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like a sword~! damn nice..
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looks better than menara warisan 118

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Looks damn good shocking.gif it is new developer right? I roughly calculate on the picture,40 floors?
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post Aug 2 2014, 08:01 PM

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The same developer for one Setapak, very strategic location with excellent view and facility...

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QUOTE(accetera @ Aug 2 2014, 05:22 PM)
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Any idea roughly when start selling? this year or next year?
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post Aug 2 2014, 09:36 PM

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Bukit jalil again.

Why so many development, later sure traffic super jam.
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post Aug 2 2014, 09:36 PM

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pm details, thanks...
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QUOTE(22222222 @ Aug 2 2014, 09:36 PM)
Bukit jalil again.

Why so many development, later sure traffic super jam.
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already super jam
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QUOTE(22222222 @ Aug 2 2014, 09:36 PM)
Bukit jalil again.

Why so many development, later sure traffic super jam.
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sure sibeh jam liao. now already sibeh jam... all stay puchong wanna skip toll... all head to bukit jalil.
bukit oug side sibeh high potential to jam once the road beside lrt opened. all cars will flood there too.

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QUOTE(HELLO HELLO @ Aug 2 2014, 09:48 PM)
sure sibeh jam liao. now already sibeh jam... all stay puchong wanna skip toll... all head to bukit jalil.
bukit oug side sibeh high potential to jam once the road beside lrt opened. all cars will flood there too.
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in future, every where in KL will be jam, got difference meh..lol
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QUOTE(HELLO HELLO @ Aug 2 2014, 06:01 PM)
Sui sui design! Cool one!

Service apartment? Bawah commercial?
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but really looking awesome from the pic
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QUOTE(Iam Power @ Aug 2 2014, 09:51 PM)
in future, every where in KL will be jam, got difference meh..lol
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got different. some have many escape point. some jam till jialat, some jam still ok.
if u stay at kuchai, oug, bukit jalil, sri petaling long enough.
u will know why it jam and where the cars heading too. bukit jalil jam case is quite crazy...mostly flood by puchong cars.

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Location tip: Calvary Church and Taman Bukit Jalil.
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Near/behind the petrol stations?
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QUOTE(Iam Power @ Aug 2 2014, 09:52 PM)
but really looking awesome from the pic
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lol.. ya ya.. picture is 1 thing... end product maybe another thing....

should show daylight picture. night picture too many lighting effect.
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QUOTE(accetera @ Aug 2 2014, 05:22 PM)
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600psft??
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QUOTE(HELLO HELLO @ Aug 2 2014, 09:54 PM)
got different. some have many escape point. some jam till jialat, some jam still ok.
if u stay at kuchai, oug, bukit jalil, sri petaling long enough.
u will know why it jam and where the cars heading too. bukit jalil jam case is quite crazy...mostly flood by puchong cars.
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just hope for good road diversion lo...nting much can be done actually...

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QUOTE(PeriPeri2014 @ Aug 2 2014, 09:59 PM)
600psft??
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twinz already over 600 psf right? this 1 roughly 800-900psf?
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QUOTE(HELLO HELLO @ Aug 2 2014, 10:00 PM)
twinz already over 600 psf right? this 1 roughly 800-900psf?
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twins if go according to KM prices should be able to get around 650psf +
800psf is the price of malton residence coming soon

this one, location cant beat malton's, but probably banking on design to push up price?
wait for news


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This will probably be at around 1000 per sq ft. Bukit jalil ftw
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Name skyworld, later DBKL change to Dunia Langit kondo lol
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QUOTE(Minolta @ Aug 2 2014, 10:30 PM)
Name skyworld, later DBKL change to Dunia Langit kondo lol
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1,000psf ok boh?
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QUOTE(accetera @ Aug 3 2014, 12:51 AM)
1,000psf ok boh?
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Sound like pigeon hole again....size roughly 400sf-700sf?

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So many condos?

Oversupply?
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QUOTE(yjtan15 @ Aug 3 2014, 01:09 AM)
So many condos?

Oversupply?
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No such word for rich Malaysian. They will still buy.
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QUOTE(JustNobody @ Aug 2 2014, 08:46 PM)
No such word for rich Malaysian. They will still buy.
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ya just BBB, 3 years time see got anyone wanna buy/rent for 30% more than today's price tongue.gif
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so any details?
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QUOTE(Babizz @ Aug 3 2014, 11:02 AM)
ya just BBB, 3 years time see got anyone wanna buy/rent for 30% more than today's price tongue.gif
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U could be the first one queuing up to buy at 50% premium kekeke
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developer? sizes? indicate price? when launch?
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I believe this project is not so soon and a lot of details are not confirm yet.

Very interesting project indeed.

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This thread si pek good ah, discussing just based on one picture. Good ah, good ah, search more picture and open more thread.
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calvary church and taman bukit jalil ? -

dun see any vacant land wor...does this have view of the park ke?
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who bhind this skyworld? sounds like TAN SRI punya project
vry aggresive, launch diff project in diff area
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Bukit Jalil is a nice place.

I hope they dont make it as congested as MK.

Optimal supply is paramount. Too much then price correction and then downturn.


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Wa jialat another tall tower in Bukit Jalil? Sibeh Ong! Details please, is it condo/service apartment, got commercial below like Link2? Postage stamp size studio or full size? Thank you very much!

From ntpworlddev.com it looks like a service residence. So that means commercial title service apartments? From the picture looks like they plan to build a mall below. I count 7 floors or retail minimum from the picture. Or is it carpark bays? Not sure. Then above the mall looks like 42 floors of service apartments. So total about 50 stories? Wow!

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is just beside the entrance2 of the bkt jalil recreation park.
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BJ needs 50 stories tower to attract people from far away.
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QUOTE(ivanpei @ Aug 4 2014, 04:06 PM)
Wa jialat another tall tower in Bukit Jalil? Sibeh Ong! Details please, is it condo/service apartment, got commercial below like Link2? Postage stamp size studio or full size? Thank you very much!

From ntpworlddev.com it looks like a service residence. So that means commercial title service apartments? From the picture looks like they plan to build a mall below. I count 7 floors or retail minimum from the picture. Or is it carpark bays? Not sure. Then above the mall looks like 42 floors of service apartments. So total about 50 stories? Wow!
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So as per your Bukit Jalil City thread, what is your opinion if Bukit Jalil continues to climb to RM1,000psf?
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In my opinion Bukit Jalil is perfect as a upper middle class own stay enclave like Mont Kiara and Desa park City. It has LRT, malls, highway access, close to KL, golf course/country club. However I think the density is a little too high and it needs some offices to really sustain 1000 psf prices. If Bukit Jalil city turns out like Mid Valley City, which has Offices that can turn the area into a business District, 1000 psf prices are justifiable.

The studios/condos in Mid Valley City are also 900-1000 psf. So in my opinion that would be best case scenario. Worse case scenario will be like Damansara Pendana which is 600-700 psf steady growth.

I'm hoping it will be more Mid Valley City than Damansara Pendana. Haha like any investment there is risk lar.

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QUOTE(ivanpei @ Aug 4 2014, 10:07 PM)
In my opinion Bukit Jalil is perfect as a upper middle class own stay enclave like Mont Kiara and Desa park City. It has LRT, malls, highway access, close to KL, golf course/country club. However I think the density is a little too high and it needs some offices to really sustain 1000 psf prices. If Bukit Jalil city turns out like Mid Valley City, which has Offices that can turn the area into a business District, 1000 psf prices are justifiable.

The studios/condos in Mid Valley City are also 900-1000 psf. So in my opinion that would be best case scenario. Worse case scenario will be like Damansara Pendana which is 600-700 psf steady growth.

I'm hoping it will be more Mid Valley City than Damansara Pendana. Haha like any investment there is risk lar.
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in the future, u think Pavi BJ got potential to attract people from elsewhere or not?
On a side note, BJ's population is not high but growing at a fast pace due to enw condo's and many homes in nearby OKR
. Accessibility/traffic will be much btr in the future, hence people might wanna shop in the real Pavi not the BJ one?
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Moreover, many retail units/malls coming up and I don't know how some of them gonna end up. Pavi BJ is huge (a major plus point) but with Paradigm there as well, one can see more malls as a formula for success but I fear empty malls may be a major letdown.
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I think BJ Pavi is very likely to be successful because there is no other mall of this Size in Kl south. Each area of KL is dominated by a particular mall for example Kl Northwest is by 1Utama/Curve. KL center has plenty, KL west has Midvalley Kl South West has Sunway Pyramid. KL South at the moment only has Viva? The Kl South catchment has been slowly increasing in size as townships like Sri Kembangan, Bukit Jalil, Okr, Oug, Sungai Best etc keeps increasing. There is no large regional mall in KL south so I'm quite confident Pavi BJ will do very well.

With the oncoming Kidex, access from Damansara and PJ to Kl South will be much improved, directing Upper Middle Class shoppers to BJ. As for KLCC nobody really wants to go that far unto KL city lar. Usually people just head to the nearest regional mall and do their shopping /movies / makan over there. For example I live in BJ now. The nearest supermall for me is Midvalley. I hate going there and fighting the Jam and parking issues but no choice since it's the closest. I definitely wish there was a closer mall in KL South but there isn't. So people like me who are from KL south will definitely be wishing for a new supermall in the area.

Every corner of KL will have a supermall d, even Cheras in the east will have Sunway Velocity. I think BJ Pavi and Sunway Velocity will be the last 2 supermalls in KL since all the DBKL areas will be covered by MV, BJ Pavi and Sunway Velocity. Look at Velocity condos already 1000psf. Cheras area is congested and chap like Puchong also can sell 1000 psf due to the mall. I would argue BJ Pavi will at least be similar to Velocity.

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QUOTE(ivanpei @ Aug 5 2014, 12:37 PM)
I think BJ Pavi is very likely to be successful because there is no other mall of this Size in Kl south. Each area of KL is dominated by a particular mall for example Kl Northwest is by 1Utama/Curve. KL center has plenty, KL west has Midvalley Kl South West has Sunway Pyramid. KL South at the moment only has Viva? The Kl South catchment has been slowly increasing in size as townships like Sri Kembangan, Bukit Jalil, Okr,  Oug, Sungai Best etc keeps increasing. There is no large regional mall in KL south so I'm quite confident Pavi BJ will do very well.

With the oncoming Kidex, access from Damansara and PJ to Kl South will be much improved, directing Upper Middle Class shoppers to BJ. As for KLCC nobody really wants to go that far unto KL city lar. Usually people just head to the nearest regional mall and do their shopping /movies / makan over there. For example I live in BJ now. The nearest supermall for me is Midvalley. I hate going there and fighting the Jam and parking issues but no choice since it's the closest. I definitely wish there was a closer mall in KL South but there isn't. So people like me who are from KL south will definitely be wishing for a new supermall in the area.

Every corner of KL will have a supermall d, even Cheras in the east will have Sunway Velocity. I think BJ Pavi and Sunway Velocity will be the last 2 supermalls in KL since all the DBKL areas will be covered by MV,  BJ Pavi and Sunway Velocity. Look at Velocity condos already 1000psf. Cheras area is congested and chap like Puchong also can sell 1000 psf due to the mall. I would argue BJ Pavi will at least be similar to Velocity.
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Sunway velocity the price can up to 1000psf not bcos solely of shopping mall.... pls do ur home work n study the whole development in n surrounding the project....u just give a comment by ur own short view.... cool2.gif
btw, bkt jalil city mall (actually is not pavilion 2) is just regional mall....the catchment is just surrounding area like oug, kinrara, seri kembangan....if wan compare to kl area ...is will be different prospect.....

the area like Desa Park City, bangsar, mont kiara also din have big shopping mall...y the property price at those areas are higher compared other?.....just think about it.... very proud everyday can shopping...huh??

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QUOTE(ivanpei @ Aug 5 2014, 12:37 PM)
I think BJ Pavi is very likely to be successful because there is no other mall of this Size in Kl south. Each area of KL is dominated by a particular mall for example Kl Northwest is by 1Utama/Curve. KL center has plenty, KL west has Midvalley Kl South West has Sunway Pyramid. KL South at the moment only has Viva? The Kl South catchment has been slowly increasing in size as townships like Sri Kembangan, Bukit Jalil, Okr,  Oug, Sungai Best etc keeps increasing. There is no large regional mall in KL south so I'm quite confident Pavi BJ will do very well.

With the oncoming Kidex, access from Damansara and PJ to Kl South will be much improved, directing Upper Middle Class shoppers to BJ. As for KLCC nobody really wants to go that far unto KL city lar. Usually people just head to the nearest regional mall and do their shopping /movies / makan over there. For example I live in BJ now. The nearest supermall for me is Midvalley. I hate going there and fighting the Jam and parking issues but no choice since it's the closest. I definitely wish there was a closer mall in KL South but there isn't. So people like me who are from KL south will definitely be wishing for a new supermall in the area.

Every corner of KL will have a supermall d, even Cheras in the east will have Sunway Velocity. I think BJ Pavi and Sunway Velocity will be the last 2 supermalls in KL since all the DBKL areas will be covered by MV,  BJ Pavi and Sunway Velocity. Look at Velocity condos already 1000psf. Cheras area is congested and chap like Puchong also can sell 1000 psf due to the mall. I would argue BJ Pavi will at least be similar to Velocity.
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wah... velocity is different case lor.... location wise and surrounding future development anytime better than bukit jalil lor. velo also very very close to kl city. actually soon to be part of kl city. future financial centre trx also 1 stop away only. and trec also another development next to SGCC golfclub also very near velo. bukit jalil cannot compare with it... totally different level lor.

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QUOTE(HELLO HELLO @ Aug 5 2014, 02:52 PM)
wah... velocity is different case lor.... location wise and surrounding future development anytime better than bukit jalil lor. velo also very very close to kl city. actually soon to be part of kl city. bukit jalil cannot compare with it... totally different level lor.
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Wah not fair to compare those malls in city center lo. Even pavilion also cannot compare to klcc lo. Anyway interesting to read the comments. Why not we create a thread and monitor every year and see who is genius n who is idiot? I monitor ok boh ? Kekeke

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Haha nobody will know one lar. In my opinion both are good projects. Just see risk appetite lar. We will only know years later.
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Haha nobody will know one lar. In my opinion both are good projects. Just see risk appetite lar. We will only know years later.
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For investment (rental, capital appreaciation in long term..) sure will go to velocity...

Velocity current price 1100psf...compare KLCC which max is about 2000psf (Pavilion residence, tribeca...)....so is still has room to appreaciate...plus underground MRT & LRT, Cochrane redevelopment, TRX..etc...

for own stay n good environment (greenary, park to jogging...) sure will go to bkt jalil

bj current price is around 600 to 750 psf..... the latest new launch project sure will b the bench mark....so wat ever u buy now (new launch) will be highest price.... the rental yield surely is lower compare KL.....

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QUOTE(bigman @ Aug 5 2014, 03:23 PM)
For investment (rental, capital appreaciation in long term..) sure will go to velocity...

Velocity current price 1100psf...compare KLCC which max is about 2000psf (Pavilion residence, tribeca...)....so is still has room to appreaciate...plus underground MRT & LRT, Cochrane redevelopment, TRX..etc...

for own stay n good environment (greenary, park to jogging...) sure will go to bkt jalil

bj current price is around 600 to 750 psf..... the latest new launch project sure will b the bench mark....so wat ever u buy now (new launch) will be highest price.... the rental yield surely is lower compare KL.....
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but hor velocity vs pavilion also a big gap woh. velocity is in cheras area and only city center wannabe... you are comparing jiao lai 1100psf vs klcc prime 2000psf woh tongue.gif .. anyway i like velocity with mrt icon_idea.gif

city malls have very stiff competition with trx, bandar malaysia in play, lets see how this unfold
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I think Sunway Velocity will be successful but I don't think it will be 2k psf like you mentioned above. It's in a very good location next to City Center, agree but as I said before being next to Pudu on one Side and Maluri on the other side is a bit chap. Barring a redevelopment of the whole area, it won't be as high class as Pavillion residences imo.

But who knows lar I could be wrong. It's the same imo for OKR new devs. They are selling a high class condo in a chap congested part of town. Which imo won't be that desirable. As for Bukit Jalil the main stretch around Pavi2 will be full of new upper middle class condos. The facade and class of the whole area is already upper middle class with all the new condos. Its like a blank slate with fewer eyesores. Similar to Desa Park City and Mont Kiara, the devs there have a blank slate to build on.

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QUOTE(Cocoon @ Aug 5 2014, 03:40 PM)
but hor velocity vs pavilion also a big gap woh. velocity is in cheras area and only city center wannabe... you are comparing jiao lai 1100psf vs klcc prime 2000psf woh  tongue.gif .. anyway i like velocity with mrt  icon_idea.gif

city malls have very stiff competition with trx, bandar malaysia in play, lets see how this unfold
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velocity like baby...we never know the future wat he going to be....but with the development around it like ikea n ikano...trx just nearby....2 underground MRT...n its belong to Sunway project....somemore freehold with KL address eventhough is at boundary of cheras/kl... this risk i still manage to take....


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QUOTE(ivanpei @ Aug 5 2014, 03:48 PM)
I think Sunway Velocity will be successful but I don't think it will be 2k psf like you mentioned above. It's in a very good location next to City Center, agree but as I said before being next to Pudu on one Side and Maluri on the other side is a bit chap. Barring a redevelopment of the whole area, it won't be as high class as Pavillion residences imo.

But who knows lar I could be wrong. It's the same imo for OKR new devs. They are selling a high class condo in a chap congested part of town. Which imo won't be that desirable. As for Bukit Jalil the main stretch around Pavi2 will be full of new upper middle class condos. The facade and class of the whole area is already upper middle class with all the new condos. Its like a blank slate with fewer eyesores. Similar to Desa Park City and Mont Kiara, the devs there have a blank slate to build on.
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yup..velocity is a bit chap....is the risk tat need to take if wan to invest in... but robertson also located in chap area ..Pudu..the price is also not cheap..

mayb we should compare robertson n velocity which is appx distance to city center n price range about same... tongue.gif
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sunway velocity- sunway has been selling at future prices ie high prices but their quality has
deteriorated over the years ..seems they are more keen to max out their profit margin than
providing quality product to their buyers as one of the "top developers" in the market ..having said
that 90% of developers in this country is crap - one of the reasons being poor regulation from the authority


i have already "abandoned" them after my last nightmare purchase!

anyway i know am just a little drop in the ocean so they wont miss my purchase ..and its mutual ! ke ke

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in the future, u think Pavi BJ got potential to attract people from elsewhere or not?
On a side note, BJ's population is not high but growing at a fast pace due to enw condo's and many homes in nearby OKR 
. Accessibility/traffic will be much btr in the future, hence people might wanna shop in the real Pavi not the BJ one?
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1,000psf ok boh?
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calvary  church and taman bukit jalil ?  -

dun see any vacant land wor...does this have view of the park ke?
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In my opinion Bukit Jalil is perfect as a upper middle class own stay enclave like Mont Kiara and Desa park City. It has LRT, malls, highway access, close to KL, golf course/country club. However I think the density is a little too high and it needs some offices to really sustain 1000 psf prices. If Bukit Jalil city turns out like Mid Valley City, which has Offices that can turn the area into a business District, 1000 psf prices are justifiable.

The studios/condos in Mid Valley City are also 900-1000 psf. So in my opinion that would be best case scenario. Worse case scenario will be like Damansara Pendana which is 600-700 psf steady growth.

I'm hoping it will be more Mid Valley City than Damansara Pendana. Haha like any investment there is risk lar.
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So as per your Bukit Jalil City thread, what is your opinion if Bukit Jalil continues to climb to RM1,000psf?
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Please convince this developer to sell > RM1k psf. Make it a record high in Bukit Jalil  thumbup.gif
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1,000psf ok boh?
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around GC & Calvary? i dont see any vacant land now that berjaya has built their shoplots beside treez & golf resort.
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QUOTE(teehk_tee @ Aug 6 2014, 11:03 AM)
around GC & Calvary? i dont see any vacant land now that berjaya has built their shoplots beside treez & golf resort.
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mayb the location at land beside Asia Football Confederation (AFC)....saw there got site cleaning... hmm.gif

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who seriously go shop at pavillion....
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quite alot of people lor. Many Malaysians as well. For me, the Gardens has more of my stuff. when the BJ mall gonna complete?
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QUOTE(bigman @ Aug 6 2014, 11:31 AM)
mayb the location at land beside Asia Football Confederation (AFC)....saw there got site cleaning... hmm.gif
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ah that's a good one. but if its that the plot area is rather small.
cuz the land beside and behind the park is already malton/ho hup.. so are the parcels behind afc at Jalil Sutera. so im pretty sure theres no land left in BJ.

1k is a tough call. bj prices don't move up because the area is upper middle and most families buy to stay. landed at the GC & Esplanade is only around 500+ psf.

plus i dont know how Jln Jalil Perkasa 1 and the u-turn at AFC/KM1 West is gonna cope with the increased traffic in the morning since Puchong users are already making it really hard.
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ah that's a good one. but if its that the plot area is rather small.
cuz the land beside and behind the park is already malton/ho hup.. so are the parcels behind afc at Jalil Sutera. so im pretty sure theres no land left in BJ.

1k is a tough call. bj prices don't move up because the area is upper middle and most families buy to stay. landed at the GC & Esplanade is only around 500+ psf.

plus i dont know how Jln Jalil Perkasa 1 and the u-turn at AFC/KM1 West is gonna cope with the increased traffic in the morning since Puchong users are already making it really hard.
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yup...BJ is good for own stay.... but the trafic condition bcome worsen day after day cry.gif
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QUOTE(teehk_tee @ Aug 6 2014, 11:41 AM)
ah that's a good one. but if its that the plot area is rather small.
cuz the land beside and behind the park is already malton/ho hup.. so are the parcels behind afc at Jalil Sutera. so im pretty sure theres no land left in BJ.

1k is a tough call. bj prices don't move up because the area is upper middle and most families buy to stay. landed at the GC & Esplanade is only around 500+ psf.

plus i dont know how Jln Jalil Perkasa 1 and the u-turn at AFC/KM1 West is gonna cope with the increased traffic in the morning since Puchong users are already making it really hard.
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Still got land got land

next to aked esplanad got one piece of decent size land. Next to afc got a small piece of land n no guarantee afc wont move out so developer can combine 2 lands together. Behind the link shops got a decent size land. End of ho hup office has a fish pond and the land is for school but here anything can happen.

Opposite link2 there is a land now currently use for perking space for bj park, not sure who is the owner but could potentially use it for prop dev.
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Project is coming soon.

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yup...BJ is good for own stay.... but the trafic condition bcome worsen day after day cry.gif
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Kinda agree with you.

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yup...BJ is good for own stay.... but the trafic condition bcome worsen day after day cry.gif
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not just BJ lah.
as long as vehicle ownership is still growing, everywhere else traffic condition worsen. not just BJ but entire malaysia.
of course if development increases, traffic worsen more. wakakakaka.
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But nowadays everywhere traffic is bad, but i personally like BJ because of the green environment and access, if this project really next to the park second entrance is really a good buy but need to see the psf. Nowadays i don't think anything go lower than 700psf at BJ.
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Got a feeling this locate at the public park parking area. Next to anjung hijau apartment.
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Got a feeling this locate at the public park parking area. Next to anjung hijau apartment.
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not just BJ lah.
as long as vehicle ownership is still growing, everywhere else traffic condition worsen. not just BJ but entire malaysia.
of course if development increases, traffic worsen more. wakakakaka.
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At least BJ residents can take train to work during rush hours compared to Mont Kiara!

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QUOTE(bigman @ Aug 5 2014, 03:23 PM)
For investment (rental, capital appreaciation in long term..) sure will go to velocity...

Velocity current price 1100psf...compare KLCC which max is about 2000psf (Pavilion residence, tribeca...)....so is still has room to appreaciate...plus underground MRT & LRT, Cochrane redevelopment, TRX..etc...

for own stay n good environment (greenary, park to jogging...) sure will go to bkt jalil

bj current price is around 600 to 750 psf..... the latest new launch project sure will b the bench mark....so wat ever u buy now (new launch) will be highest price.... the rental yield surely is lower compare KL.....
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You are correct but you forgot to factor in many other factors...particularly affordability.
Not many can afford higher ppsf areas and NOT many people are willing to rent places that cost a bomb..
Particularly rising inflation, cost of living vs relatively stagnant income.


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I think it wont be RM 1000 psf la. Lol.
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currently definitely wont be 1k psf la...
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Shouls be around 900psf
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Towards mid-end 2015.
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Towards mid-end 2015.
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Suddenly launch so many projects.. quite ambitious
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SkyWorld is a new comer in property?
Suddenly launch so many projects.. quite ambitious
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They got about 10 projects including Highend ones + Affordable ones.
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They got about 10 projects including Highend ones + Affordable ones.
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1 bedroom unit with 1000 psf should not be problem
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1000 psf I think cannot lar. Anybody got firm location yet? I think only Malton residential above mall can.price at 1000psf and only for small units. Even then I think people won't buy also. 800 psf max lar. I prefer Sunway Velocity at 1k psf.

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1000 psf I think cannot lar. Anybody got firm location yet? I think only Malton residential above mall can.price at 1000psf and only for small units. Even then I think people won't buy also. 800 psf max lar. I prefer Sunway Velocity at 1k psf.
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by the look at it, location should be next to Green Field condo, one of the entrance to the park.... hmm.gif
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Everyone just guessing only is it? Any news yet? Who owns the land behind the link? Near Anjung Hijau?
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when is this going to launch? looks nice ~
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gonna launch on 2015 ?
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LOL, everywhere also wana compare with cyberjaya.... before this is puchong, then semenyih, then even comparing KL, and now bkt Jalil? tongue.gif
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Where is the exact location of SKYWORLD BUKIT JALIL?
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Cbj havent jam yet,but bj jam already rclxms.gif
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Next to BJ Pavillion?
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Next to Greenfields.

Bennington@SKyArena and Bandar Baru Sentul launch first.
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Guess they will launch Skyworld Tmn Desa first before this one ...
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Bandar Baru Sentul in Q4.

SkyWorld launching RM1 billion GDV projects this year which started with a massive "BBB" today.

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Sky Awani Residence @ Jalan Sentul Pasar
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Next to Greenfields.

Bennington@SKyArena and Bandar Baru Sentul launch first.
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Info from a reliable source: The site will be at current empty land used for car park in Bukit Jalil recreation park right beside Greenfields aka Anjung Hijau condo.
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Wow in that case location is excellent. Between a park and a golf course. Great 360 view. Going to be expensive confirm.
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soon the temporally car park will gone.

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Where's the exact location? Mind showing a map?

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They are settling down existing project. The soonest would be end of the year...
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They are settling down existing project. The soonest would be end of the year...
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Should has a proper township plan in bk jalil like desa park r mont kiara

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Is the location opposite Treez?
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Is the location opposite Treez?
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That's mean nearby KESAS highway! !!
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Opening for early registration soon. Walking distance to The Park Sky Residence and Pavilion Bukit Jalil.

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Opening for early registration soon. Walking distance to The Park Sky Residence and Pavilion Bukit Jalil.

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freehold / leasehold ? any indicative price ?
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THis facade looks modernize
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THis facade looks modernize
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you prefer The Park Pavilion or skyworld ?
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what do you think bro??

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Opening for early registration soon. Walking distance to The Park Sky Residence and Pavilion Bukit Jalil.

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seems like skyworld facade look promising + 2 blocks only
what do you think bro??
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Opening for early registration soon. Walking distance to The Park Sky Residence and Pavilion Bukit Jalil.

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QUOTE(Dogman @ Jun 18 2015, 06:02 PM)
ya, agreed with you on the low density, location will be less traffic and still walking distance to Pavilion (but don't think we will walk at night time)....still need to look at freehold or leasehold and price.
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Which one Nearer to mrt ?
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Sure more than 800psf and the picture already showed freehold

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Facade looks nicer and taller than park resi,, think will be cheaper also, good
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Facade looks nicer and taller than park resi,, think will be cheaper also, good
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QUOTE(jhuitan @ Jun 18 2015, 07:27 PM)
Sure more than 800psf and the picture already showed freehold
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How much maintenance of park resi, can't remember, ,,. .35psf?
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wah freehold ! interesting....thought that DBKL land will not have freehold development. Not sure if is service apartment of condo ?
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since the park like selling "tai pao"....think this project and berjaya link 2 is better alternative..
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I think SkyWorld is kinda new. What I know is the main contractor of their project should be Zalam holdings who's currently constructing CloudTree Cheras.

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hi bro, is this the exact location?
very good location next to the park!


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hi bro,  is this the exact location?
very good location next to the park!
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got chance for golf view

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perimeter fence up

DBKL.OSC (B) A13 S3 150730-017 (P2) : CADANGAN PINDAAN PEMBANGUNAN YANG MENGANDUNGI:- FASA 1 A) 1 BLOK A PANGSAPURI SERVIS 33 TINGKAT (225 UNIT) B) 1 TINGKAT TEMPAT LETAK KERETA DI ARAS BESMEN C) 8 TINGKAT PODIUM TEMPAT LETAK KERETA DI ARAS BAWAH HINGGA ARAS 7 D) 2 TINGKAT KEMUDAHAN DI ARAS 8 HINGGA ARAS E) 2 UNIT PONDOK PENGAWAL F) 1 UNIT RUMAH SAMPAH DAN G) 1 UNIT PENCAWANG ELEKTRIK (DALAM BANGUNAN) FASA 2 A) 1 BLOK B PANGSAPURI SERVIS 33 TINGKAT (252 UNIT) KEPADA FASA 1 A) 1 BLOK A PANGSAPURI SERVIS 33 TINGKAT (225 UNIT) B) 1 TINGKAT TEMPAT LETAK KERETA DI ARAS BESMEN C) 8 TINGKAT PODIUM TEMPAT LETAK KERETA DI ARAS BAWAH HINGGA ARAS 7 D) 2 TINGKAT KEMUDAHAN DI ARAS 8 HINGGA ARAS 9 E) 1 TINGKAT KEMUDAHAN DI ARAS BUMBUNG F) 2 UNIT PONDOK PENGAWAL G) 1 UNIT RUMAH SAMPAH DAN H) 1 UNIT PENCAWANG ELEKTRIK (DALAM BANGUNAN) FASA 2: A) 1 BLOK B PANGSAPURI SERVIS 33 TINGKAT (252 UNIT) DAN B) 1 TINGKAT KEMUDAHAN DI ARAS BUMBUNG DI ATAS LOT 36464 (LOT PT 4797) DAN 36465 (LOT PT 4798), MUKIM PETALING, DAERAH KUALA LUMPUR, WILAYAH PERSEKUTUAN KUALA LUMPUR oleh TETUAN MY WORLD DEVELOPMENT SDN BHD, NO.6-3-16, LA VILLA CONDOMINIUM, JALAN 3/21B, TAMAN SETAPAK, 53000 KUALA LUMPUR TEL 03-61860949/FAX 03-61860950 di Dewan Bandaraya Kuala Lumpur

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perimeter fence up

DBKL.OSC (B) A13 S3 150730-017 (P2) : CADANGAN PINDAAN PEMBANGUNAN YANG MENGANDUNGI:- FASA 1 A) 1 BLOK A PANGSAPURI SERVIS 33 TINGKAT (225 UNIT) B) 1 TINGKAT TEMPAT LETAK KERETA DI ARAS BESMEN C) 8 TINGKAT PODIUM TEMPAT LETAK KERETA DI ARAS BAWAH HINGGA ARAS 7 D) 2 TINGKAT KEMUDAHAN DI ARAS 8 HINGGA ARAS E) 2 UNIT PONDOK PENGAWAL F) 1 UNIT RUMAH SAMPAH DAN G) 1 UNIT PENCAWANG ELEKTRIK (DALAM BANGUNAN) FASA 2 A) 1 BLOK B PANGSAPURI SERVIS 33 TINGKAT (252 UNIT) KEPADA FASA 1 A) 1 BLOK A PANGSAPURI SERVIS 33 TINGKAT (225 UNIT) B) 1 TINGKAT TEMPAT LETAK KERETA DI ARAS BESMEN C) 8 TINGKAT PODIUM TEMPAT LETAK KERETA DI ARAS BAWAH HINGGA ARAS 7 D) 2 TINGKAT KEMUDAHAN DI ARAS 8 HINGGA ARAS 9 E) 1 TINGKAT KEMUDAHAN DI ARAS BUMBUNG F) 2 UNIT PONDOK PENGAWAL G) 1 UNIT RUMAH SAMPAH DAN H) 1 UNIT PENCAWANG ELEKTRIK (DALAM BANGUNAN) FASA 2: A) 1 BLOK B PANGSAPURI SERVIS 33 TINGKAT (252 UNIT) DAN B) 1 TINGKAT KEMUDAHAN DI ARAS BUMBUNG DI ATAS LOT 36464 (LOT PT 4797) DAN 36465 (LOT PT 4798), MUKIM PETALING, DAERAH KUALA LUMPUR, WILAYAH PERSEKUTUAN KUALA LUMPUR oleh TETUAN MY WORLD DEVELOPMENT SDN BHD, NO.6-3-16, LA VILLA CONDOMINIUM, JALAN 3/21B, TAMAN SETAPAK, 53000 KUALA LUMPUR TEL 03-61860949/FAX 03-61860950 di Dewan Bandaraya Kuala Lumpur
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Name of the property is called SkyLuxe

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Name of the property is called SkyLuxe
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Got luxe word, pricing sure luxe too

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Sounds expensive. Great views, good location. I think going to be very pricy.
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Where is the location?
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Where is the location?
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http://wikimapia.org/#lang=en&lat=3.054661...-at-Bukit-Jalil
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Got luxe word, pricing sure luxe too
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I hope not too luxe, if not no money to BBB cry.gif

By the way just to share my thoughts in terms of parking. When I go to the BJ park, I always park at that empty lot (where everyone else also do) and this is where SkyLuxe will now be built on.

I'm not sure if they've totally sealed off the empty lot but even when it's not, people still park at the side of the road leading to the park's entrance. Now if it is sealed off and in the future when the building is up etc. I cannot imagine the amount of cars there parking at the side of the road especially in the morning, evenings (the times when you need to get out to work is when the auntie and uncles will come to the park and the time when you need to go home is when the young families, couples and joggers will come and clog up the access road) and during the weekends (all sorts of people) rclxub.gif

I assume they'll widen the lanes as it's now just a single lane but got a feeling that access road will be filled with cars in the future (considering that the population in BJ will also increase exponentially over the next few years with all the new development and properties)

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That road will be super jammed. The flow from Kiara Residence and Z Residence that side will have to go through this road to get to Bukit Jalil Highway. In the other direction also same thing, all the devs need to go through that traffic light to get down to kesas. Can you imagine how many units crowding into this one road?

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this looks good with nice views of the park in the nicer part of BJ.. 477 units looks like more footfall for pavi bj brows.gif brows.gif
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A new design from the first page.
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this developer Skyworld got any completed development? good reputation?
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exactly next to anjung hijau. The small car park there. now already fencing up. The price should be RM 800 psf.
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Design has changed (from page 1 pic) to incorporate affordable luxury concept.
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Design has changed (from page 1 pic) to incorporate affordable luxury concept.
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No past records for quality tracking...

Ongoing/future developments in Klang Valley
Kompleks Sukan 1Malaysia in SkyArena
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Bennington Residence @ SkyArena
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Exsim has no track record for residential too 2years back and now become one big gamer.
Guess SkyWorld will be the next and their main contractors will be Zalam land which constructing several projects before and currently working on Cloudtree.
Maybe wait for it to be completed to see the result, but might be too late to own their project that time...

This skyluxe should be the upcoming launch! =D
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btw the land on opposite this project also been cleared (the golf field side)
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location consider good with 2 megamall on the way..


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shld have 2 facing, golf view or green/pavilion view. i guess
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location consider good with 2 megamall on the way..
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shld have 2 facing, golf view or green/pavilion view. i guess
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Bro the golf course isn't that small biggrin.gif , TA and link 2 will block part of it but not all of it as it's not directly in front of SkyLuxe, it's to their South East.
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then guess better with Public Park & Pavilion BJ, confirm no block.
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any agent selling this alredy im interested to know the price please pm = )
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Will it breach 900psf?
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Really have to go so expensive?
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Look nice, good to bbb
bj very booming... thumbup.gif thumbup.gif thumbup.gif
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very nice location,

the park just at the door step
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http://www.skyworld.my/showcase-residence-skyluxe.php

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QUOTE(EgKev @ Nov 2 2015, 03:32 PM)
the size look like occupy whole of the temporally car park
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the size look like occupy whole of the temporally car park
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Yeap they already boarded up the whole area, now can't park there anymore. However they did remove the DBKL signage about what they're going to build there though so I guess there might be some revision to the plan / architecture etc.
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Have anyone here register for this project?

I will share some first hand info with you guys once the right time comes...


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Have anyone here register for this project?

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Further info, price psf & layout plan.
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Can expected that very hard to enter this one when the price is announced, lol.
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Can expected that very hard to enter this one when the price is announced, lol.
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Park sky sibeh good luck. Launched b4 thr blow up of 1mdd and 2.6 bintang . Let's look at paradigm results soon
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Have anyone here register for this project?

I will share some first hand info with you guys once the right time comes...
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I saw there is also another development to build a community centre beside skyluxe? Who is building that?
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This developer skyworld got the shadow of ecoworld . Being high profile, good in marketing packaging their products to create bbb mode.

Not sure this kind of developers will be more focusing on their profits sales .. build and run or also bring along good roi to their customers?
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Around 1kpsf before rebate.
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Another quality urban living vision

661 sq ft (1 bedder) to 1,2xx sq ft

total 4 levels of facilities

service apartment purely residential, no commercial units

juxtaposed design concept

two blocks

Block A: 33 storey (225 units)
Block B: 33 storey (252 units)

7 and 8 units per floor

sitting 8 level carpark podium

80-acre Park view and 165-acre Golf course view

Walking distance to Pavilion Bukit Jalil mall and Berjaya clubhouse (and future The Link Mall).

Bird's nest concept. Sky waterfall concept. Sky pool. Floating deck.

Classy entrance statement.

Aimed for CONQUAS quality.

Freehold.

Maintenance fee estimated RM0.40psf

Average net of RM8xxpsf for (bigger size) onwards

Show gallery open next year.

Now open for enquiries. Previewing soon.
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After this , I think the park a better buy.
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Definitely better buy for ownstay than those medium-end condos along the stretch of Kesas highway.
Wont get any from there,

But TwinArkz has better design than this.
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Dear all,

For those who follow me earlier or register with me earlier, some slight info is soon to be out for sharing.

Please register with me if interested and will soon organise a meeting session on this project.

A little sharing here, the facade of this project looks unique by its own and with its back to natural feel of common area and facilities. Also every unit with its own unblock view of Golf course and park.

Those register with me earlier will get a preview info sharing session this weekend.

Stay tune..
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This road is already so jammed up during non-peak hours due to the narrowing of the road by the Awan Besar LRT.

Why did DBKL allow such a high density condo to be built in a tiny area?

They should build lower density condo or houses there instead.

There are already so many new condos on this road, Treez, KM1, Kiara residence, can't remember the rest.

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This road is already so jammed up during non-peak hours due to the narrowing of the road by the Awan Besar LRT.

Why did DBKL allow such a high density condo to be built in a tiny area?

They should build lower density condo or houses there instead.

There are already so many new condos on this road, Treez, KM1, Kiara residence, can't remember the rest.
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Answer is simple for DBKL. Plot ratio.

For developer, simple, GDV. When you buy prime land for RM x million, and adding up building costs, you need to build to a certain density to make back your money and for a handsome profit.

How to build houses at that small plot of land, developer would need to sell each house for RM10-20 million each to get profit blink.gif
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I hope not too luxe, if not no money to BBB  cry.gif

By the way just to share my thoughts in terms of parking. When I go to the BJ park, I always park at that empty lot (where everyone else also do) and this is where SkyLuxe will now be built on.

I'm not sure if they've totally sealed off the empty lot but even when it's not, people still park at the side of the road leading to the park's entrance. Now if it is sealed off and in the future when the building is up etc. I cannot imagine the amount of cars there parking at the side of the road especially in the morning, evenings (the times when you need to get out to work is when the auntie and uncles will come to the park and the time when you need to go home is when the young families, couples and joggers will come and clog up the access road) and during the weekends (all sorts of people) rclxub.gif

I assume they'll widen the lanes as it's now just a single lane but got a feeling that access road will be filled with cars in the future (considering that the population in BJ will also increase exponentially over the next few years with all the new development and properties)
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Right now, the lane is very narrow, only one car can squeeze through.

There are not enough space for widening of the lane because they are building two blocks there when there should be only one block.

It's really high density with hardly any parking space inside the area. It would be a nightmare going into and out from the condo. The location is good but DBKL has bad management to allow such a high density condo to be build when the exit is already so congested.

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Right now, the lane is very narrow, only one car can squeeze through.

There are not enough space for widening of the lane because they are building two blocks there when there should be only one block.

It's really high density with hardly any parking space inside the area. It would be a nightmare going into and out from the condo. The location is good but DBKL has bad management to allow such a high density condo to be build when the exit is already so congested.
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Yeaps this I agree, though I do believe the main entrance should feel the main road la not the small access road to the park. Hopefully they'll widen it, will see what's their plan when it is unveiled, might be interested in the 600+sf one biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(jalsrix @ Nov 25 2015, 12:28 AM)
This road is already so jammed up during non-peak hours due to the narrowing of the road by the Awan Besar LRT.

Why did DBKL allow such a high density condo to be built in a tiny area?

They should build lower density condo or houses there instead.

There are already so many new condos on this road, Treez, KM1, Kiara residence, can't remember the rest.
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Malaysian planning........build first, plan infrastructures 10 years later.

Sounds like a bad area evolving!
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Malaysian planning........build first, plan infrastructures 10 years later.

Sounds like a bad area evolving!
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Yeah, they won't foresee the congestion and build in advance. They wait till they see it then only they improve the infra
Their mentality is Why do first when there's no complain???
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Yeah, they won't foresee the congestion and build in advance. They wait till they see it then only they improve the infra
Their mentality is Why do first when there's no complain???
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actually this is the DBKL plan,
make this place like bukit bintang super prime area that jam 24hour.
jam = ong

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More jam, More ONG.

That is what investors like right?

Flashed news last night on PTLM.
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More jam, More ONG.

That is what investors like right?

Flashed news last night on PTLM.
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Answer is simple for DBKL. Plot ratio.

For developer, simple, GDV. When you buy prime land for RM x million, and adding up building costs, you need to build to a certain density to make back your money and for a handsome profit.

How to build houses at that small plot of land, developer would need to sell each house for RM10-20 million each to get profit  blink.gif
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I doubt the small piece of land cause millions of dollars. It's more a case of greediness.

If you compare this area with the next door Anjung Hijau/Greenfields, the small piece of land is equivalent to only one block in Anjung Hijau. One block in Anjung Hijau is only 17 floors and building 33 floors is double the density.

Building too high a block makes the building less stable in case of strong wind.

I never buy any building with more than 15 floors, in case of earthquake, it will sure collapse.



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Yeaps this I agree, though I do believe the main entrance should feel the main road la not the small access road to the park. Hopefully they'll widen it, will see what's their plan when it is unveiled, might be interested in the 600+sf one  biggrin.gif
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If they build only one block, then there is enough space for the exit to the main road. But if they build two blocks in this small piece of land, I think they will use the small lane to exit.

There just isn't enough space for two blocks, guard house and parking at the ground floor.
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I doubt the small piece of land cause millions of dollars. It's more a case of greediness.

If you compare this area with the next door Anjung Hijau/Greenfields, the small piece of land is equivalent to only one block  in Anjung Hijau. One block in Anjung Hijau is only 17 floors and building 33 floors is double the density.

Building too high a block makes the building less stable in case of strong wind.

I never buy any building with more than 15 floors, in case of earthquake, it will sure collapse.


There is a reason why the old buildings such as Green Avenue and Greenfield was build with lesser storeys i.e. more stability
Green Avenue - 16 storeys
Greenfield/Anjung Hijau - 17 storey
Arena Green - 13 storeys.
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Wow, spoken like an "engineer"

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Wow, spoken like an "engineer"
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There is a reason why the old buildings in Bukit Jalil was build with lesser storeys i.e. more stability


Green Avenue - 16 storeys
Greenfield/Anjung Hijau - 17 storey
Arena Green - 13 storeys.
Bukit OUG - 16 storeys
Sri Rakyat - 14 storeys
Jalil Damai - 15 storeys


Nowadays, Greed has taken over developers rather than safety of the residence.




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There is a reason why the old buildings in Bukit Jalil was build with lesser storeys i.e. more stability
Green Avenue - 16 storeys
Greenfield/Anjung Hijau - 17 storey
Arena Green - 13 storeys.
Bukit OUG - 16 storeys
Sri Rakyat - 14 storeys
Jalil Damai - 15 storeys
Nowadays, Greed has taken over developers rather than safety of the residence.
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There is a reason why the old buildings in Bukit Jalil was build with lesser storeys i.e. more stability
Green Avenue - 16 storeys
Greenfield/Anjung Hijau - 17 storey
Arena Green - 13 storeys.
Bukit OUG - 16 storeys
Sri Rakyat - 14 storeys
Jalil Damai - 15 storeys
Nowadays, Greed has taken over developers rather than safety of the residence.
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But how do you know buildings above 15 storeys WILL collapse when there's an earthquake? Can you confirm that the designers did not take seismic loads into consideration? Especially for those buildings that have been built in the past 3 to 5 years? Tbh, I'd rather be in KLCC towers instead of a 30 year old 10-storey flat when an earthquake strikes.

About wind, yes the higher you get it will be susceptible to strong winds. All these have been taken into consideration for sure. It's in the building by-laws for designers.

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But how do you know buildings above 15 storeys WILL collapse when there's an earthquake? Can you confirm that the designers did not take seismic loads into consideration? Especially for those buildings that have been built in the past 3 to 5 years? Tbh, I'd rather be in KLCC towers instead of a 30 year old 10-storey flat when an earthquake strikes.

About wind, yes the higher you get it will be susceptible to strong winds. All these have been taken into consideration for sure. It's in the building by-laws for designers.
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If you guys think that this is only 'theory' and will never happen, go and visit Anjung Hijau next door.

One of the big top roofs in Anjung Hijau was blown off by strong wind a few months ago. Until now, nobody has replaced the roof so you can see for yourself the effects of high buildings.

15 storeys and below are much safer.

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looking at his answer we need more civil engineers in the country n on lyn to explain to him..indeed ppl working in klcc shld be scared...

Even parkhill is 40+ floors..
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If you guys think that this is only 'theory' and will never happen, go and visit Anjung Hijau next door.

One of the roofs in Anjung Hijau was blown off by strong wind a few months ago. Until now, nobody has replaced the roof so you can see for yourself the effects of high buildings.

15 storeys and below are much safer.
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Roof flying off in the wind is not design issue. It's workmanship issue. Or contractor curi makan issue by using materials that are not the same as specified by the engineers or roof specialits.

If you can say the building sways significantly when there's strong winds, then yes that is a design problem.
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looking at his answer we need more civil engineers in the country n on lyn to explain to him..indeed ppl working in klcc shld be scared...

Even parkhill is 40+ floors..
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Do you think average developer will put in so much money to stabilise a tall building?

They don't have the money to build safety measures such as Petronas Twin Tower where an earthquake stabiliser was built into it. This cause a lot of money.
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I wonder if you can still find many condo less than 15 storeys nowadays considering the land is getting lesser and lesser.
For me, the concern of this project is more to the reputation of the developer (as they are launching quite a lot of projects recently amid this bad economy) plus maybe the narrow road and there will be outsider who park along the road to go to the park.
More jam more ong ... yes but must also consider the difficulty of the resident to go in and out of their home -> hope the developer will tackle this though.
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Lol since when this became an 'engineering' discussion. Seems like someone is on the very 'safe' side doh.gif

Trust me, I'm an engineer, you can live on units 15 floors and above no need scared die. laugh.gif

Maybe someone here needs to do a little more reading on civil engineering and building construction and theory before he embarrasses himself further.

For example http://www.ctbuh.org/LinkClick.aspx?fileti...&language=en-GB.

Well my 'theory' is that if you look into the building requirements set by Malaysia, high rise buildings do need to pass simulation and withstand a certain seismic activity even though Malaysia is not really located in the earthquake zone or the Pacific ROF. So yes high rise buildings in Malaysia are safe.

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When earthquake, low rise buildings fall first.

Btw SkyLuxe will be among the first project in Bukit Jalil to get CONQUAS - a high quality supervision of workmanship quality and requirement in Singapore. The collaterals will highlight this rating.

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Not sure if there are any earthquake codes in Malaysia?


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just happen in sabah,

west malaysia so far still safe from earthquake,
only a small tsunami in penang 2008
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QUOTE(EgKev @ Nov 25 2015, 01:19 PM)
Lol since when this became an 'engineering' discussion. Seems like someone is on the very 'safe' side  doh.gif

Trust me, I'm an engineer, you can live on units 15 floors and above no need scared die.  laugh.gif

Maybe someone here needs to do a little more reading on civil engineering and building construction and theory before he embarrasses himself further.

For example http://www.ctbuh.org/LinkClick.aspx?fileti...&language=en-GB.

Well my 'theory' is that if you look into the building requirements set by Malaysia, high rise buildings do need to pass simulation and withstand a certain seismic activity even though Malaysia is not really located in the earthquake zone or the Pacific ROF. So yes high rise buildings in Malaysia are safe.
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hi egkev kor,
may i know the high rise beside a lake/sea danger??

also the high rise at hill side?

thanks for your reply since you are a pro engineer
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Uniform Building By-Laws is used in designing high rise structure in Malaysia.

Seismic load and wind load are categorized in dynamic load which is the most advance or difficult subject in civil engineering while geotechnical/foundation engineering is having the highest safety factor since many uncertainties under the soil.

Please bear in mind that Penang Second Bridge and its associated bridge structures were designed with consideration of seismic load. American Association of State Highway and Transportation Officials (AASHTO) or Eurocode 8 were referred.
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QUOTE(junjiang @ Nov 25 2015, 02:30 PM)
Uniform Building By-Laws is used in designing high rise structure in Malaysia.

Seismic load and wind load are categorized in dynamic load which is the most advance or difficult subject in civil engineering while geotechnical/foundation engineering is having the highest safety factor since many uncertainties under the soil. 

Please bear in mind that Penang Second Bridge and its associated bridge structures were designed with consideration of seismic load. American Association of State Highway and Transportation Officials (AASHTO) or Eurocode 8 were referred.
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just to add on, earthquake or seismic design code is presently unavailable in Malaysia but one can opt to practise AASHTO or Eurocode where deem fit. hence that's how some buildings in KL is already bragging about their seismic resistant design features (tsk tsk especially prominent in SDB's projects).

while engineers have constantly been talking about implementation of a local seismic design code, but in truth, don't think we would witness this happening anytime soon.

btw, seismic design also spread across a few categories.
eg. you want the building core and shell (skeleton only) to remain standing after the quake or you want to include the fittings as well (M&E and architectural inclusive). hence when one says it's seismic resistant, it usually means the former only.

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hi egkev kor,
may i know the high rise beside a lake/sea danger??

also the high rise at hill side?

thanks for your reply since you are a pro engineer
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I'm not pro la, I'm an engineer but not in the civil or construction field lol. Just know some basics as I have other friends who are in the field and enough to know that buildings are generally safe. Other users here are definitely more pro than me like kochin kor, I'm just using the meme phrase 'trust me i'm an engineer' lol. tongue.gif

In any case, you're more worried about running water which will erode the soil or your base structure so no lake is fine as it's standing water. Hill side I'm not so sure, probably other people can chime in/

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QUOTE(Tsuto @ Nov 25 2015, 12:52 PM)
I wonder if you can still find many condo less than 15 storeys nowadays considering the land is getting lesser and lesser.
For me, the concern of this project is more to the reputation of the developer (as they are launching quite a lot of projects recently amid this bad economy) plus maybe the narrow road and there will be outsider who park along the road to go to the park.
More jam more ong ... yes but must also consider the difficulty of the resident to go in and out of their home -> hope the developer will tackle this though.
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Rarity means it's more sought after. In terms of attractiveness from most to least

1. Double storey houses

2. Townhouses with 5 storeys and below

3. Condo with 15 storeys and below

4. Condo with 16-30 storeys

5. Condo with more than 30 storeys.


So it's really up to individual what they want to buy. High density condos usually have other social problems such as parking, security, lift problems.

Just ask yourself, if developers can build 30 storeys and above to make more money, why did they just build 15 storeys in the past? I've given a list of old Bukit Jalil condos. whistling.gif

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QUOTE(jalsrix @ Nov 25 2015, 12:01 PM)
There is a reason why the old buildings in Bukit Jalil was build with lesser storeys i.e. more stability
Green Avenue - 16 storeys
Greenfield/Anjung Hijau - 17 storey
Arena Green - 13 storeys.
Bukit OUG - 16 storeys
Sri Rakyat - 14 storeys
Jalil Damai - 15 storeys
Nowadays, Greed has taken over developers rather than safety of the residence.
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bukit jalil having lower high rise was because the restriction of sg besi air force base restriction.

after the government turn it to bandar malaysia, the whole restriction been removed, that why you can see all the new building are higher and higher.

a good example was kiara residence and kiara residence 2

old article from exsim
https://sg.finance.yahoo.com/news/City-Coun...2055573086.html
“We are waiting for the height restriction approval as the area falls under the flying zone of the Sungai Besi airport. Once we get it, we will start work on the project,” says Yam.
The Sungai Besi airport, which is now used as the Royal Malaysian Air Force base, will be relocated to make way for the Greater KL development plan under the 10th Malaysia Plan.

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just to add on, earthquake or seismic design code is presently unavailable in Malaysia but one can opt to practise AASHTO or Eurocode where deem fit. hence that's how some buildings in KL is already bragging about their seismic resistant design features (tsk tsk especially prominent in SDB's projects).

while engineers have constantly been talking about implementation of a local seismic design code, but in truth, don't think we would witness this happening anytime soon.

btw, seismic design also spread across a few categories.
eg. you want the building core and shell (skeleton only) to remain standing after the quake or you want to include the fittings as well (M&E and architectural inclusive). hence when one says it's seismic resistant, it usually means the former only.

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hi kochin kor,
may i know the high rise beside a lake/sea danger??

also the high rise at hill side?

thanks for your reply since you are a pro engineer

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hi kochin kor,
may i know the high rise beside a lake/sea danger??

also the high rise at hill side?

thanks for your reply since you are a pro engineer
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disclaimer: i am definitely not a pro engineer lah.
just a blow water specialist.

all developments if done proper studies should pose no risk and minimal impact with the corrective and preventive measures.
improper developments are the ones that you ought to be worry about irrespective of where they are sited.

so the key word is built in accordance to proper design. icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(kochin @ Nov 25 2015, 04:35 PM)
disclaimer: i am definitely not a pro engineer lah.
just a blow water specialist.

all developments if done proper studies should pose no risk and minimal impact with the corrective and preventive measures.
improper developments are the ones that you ought to be worry about irrespective of where they are sited.

so the key word is built in accordance to proper design.  icon_rolleyes.gif
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hill side condo runtuh before lost confidence,

i see a condo at port dikson sea side abonden also,

is it the sea water level raise until the condo need abonden...........
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bukit jalil having lower high rise was because the restriction of sg besi air force base restriction.

after the government turn it to bandar malaysia, the whole restriction been removed, that why you can see all the new building are higher and higher.

a good example was kiara residence and kiara residence 2

old article from exsim
https://sg.finance.yahoo.com/news/City-Coun...2055573086.html
“We are waiting for the height restriction approval as the area falls under the flying zone of the Sungai Besi airport. Once we get it, we will start work on the project,” says Yam.
The Sungai Besi airport, which is now used as the Royal Malaysian Air Force base, will be relocated to make way for the Greater KL development plan under the 10th Malaysia Plan.
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QUOTE(kochin @ Nov 25 2015, 02:42 PM)
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just to add on, earthquake or seismic design code is presently unavailable in Malaysia but one can opt to practise AASHTO or Eurocode where deem fit. hence that's how some buildings in KL is already bragging about their seismic resistant design features (tsk tsk especially prominent in SDB's projects).

while engineers have constantly been talking about implementation of a local seismic design code, but in truth, don't think we would witness this happening anytime soon.

btw, seismic design also spread across a few categories.
eg. you want the building core and shell (skeleton only) to remain standing after the quake or you want to include the fittings as well (M&E and architectural inclusive). hence when one says it's seismic resistant, it usually means the former only.

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Is it good to stay in BJ and work in KLCC?
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Opinions please:

Is it good to stay in BJ and work in KLCC?
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i have a friend stay in klang work in KLCC
and another one stay seremban work PJ
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only you can anser this,

i have a friend stay in klang work in KLCC
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Rarity means it's more sought after. In terms of attractiveness from most to least

1. Double storey houses

2. Townhouses with 5 storeys and below

3. Condo with 15 storeys and below

4. Condo with 16-30 storeys

5. Condo with more than 30 storeys.
So it's really up to individual what they want to buy. High density condos usually have other social problems such as parking, security, lift problems.

Just ask yourself, if developers can build 30 storeys and above to make more money, why did they just build 15 storeys in the past? I've given a list of old Bukit Jalil condos.  whistling.gif
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Someone already provided one of the answer above, and as I said before land getting rare and more and more people move into klang valley thus the condo are getting higher. And you are comparing 10 years old condo with a new one? And if you don't like highrise you can always buy landed.

I know you are selling Arena Green (less than 15 storey), thus your opinion this way? haha rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(elmond @ Nov 25 2015, 04:18 PM)
bukit jalil having lower high rise was because the restriction of sg besi air force base restriction.

after the government turn it to bandar malaysia, the whole restriction been removed, that why you can see all the new building are higher and higher.

a good example was kiara residence and kiara residence 2

old article from exsim
https://sg.finance.yahoo.com/news/City-Coun...2055573086.html
“We are waiting for the height restriction approval as the area falls under the flying zone of the Sungai Besi airport. Once we get it, we will start work on the project,” says Yam.
The Sungai Besi airport, which is now used as the Royal Malaysian Air Force base, will be relocated to make way for the Greater KL development plan under the 10th Malaysia Plan.
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Read carefully!

The restriction is for Sg Besi development and NOT Bukit Jalil.

" company has already obtained approval in principle for the Sungai Besi development, which is located about 6km from the Sungai Besi airport. We are waiting for the height restriction approval as the area falls under the flying zone of the Sungai Besi airport."

Is Bukit Jalil 6 km from Sungai Besi airport? laugh.gif

Stop confusing readers here.

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Someone already provided one of the answer above, and as I said before land getting rare and more and more people move into klang valley thus the condo are getting higher. And you are comparing 10 years old condo with a new one? And if you don't like highrise you can always buy landed.

I know you are selling Arena Green (less than 15 storey), thus your opinion this way? haha  rclxms.gif
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What I am saying are all facts.

The best is buying double storey house if you can afford it, if not buy a low density condo with less troubles.

I am sure these are all common sense for most people who have stayed in both landed and condo.

You must be one of the property agents for Skyluxe, if not, you won't try to cover up the bad points in living in a high density and extremely high floor condo. whistling.gif

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Read carefully!

The restriction is for Sg Besi development and NOT Bukit Jalil.

" company has already obtained approval in principle for the Sungai Besi development, which is located about 6km from the Sungai Besi airport. We are waiting for the height restriction approval as the area falls under the flying zone of the Sungai Besi airport."

Is Bukit Jalil 6 km from Sungai Besi airport?  laugh.gif

Stop confusing readers here.
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What I am saying are all facts.

The best is buying double storey house if you can afford it, if not buy a low density condo with less troubles.

I am sure these are all common sense for most people who have stayed in both landed and condo.

You must be one of the property agents for Skyluxe, if not, you won't try to cover up the bad points in living in a high density and extremely high floor condo.  whistling.gif
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This project no basement. Save alot of costs. Should sell much cheaper than the park bk jalil.
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This project no basement. Save alot of costs. Should sell much cheaper than the park bk jalil.
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Then you should buy one from me  tongue.gif  i mean skyluxe
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please keep it fool.


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Even if you don't know how to read the article in English which specifically said 'Sg Besi' and NOT 'Bukit Jalil'.
You should be able to know how near 6 km is.

Since when Bukit Jalil has been renamed to Sg Besi ? laugh.gif

There is no way that Anjung Hijau/Skylux is within 6 km from TUDM kuala lumpur

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Hmmm......good investment 850psft here??
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may i ask what is the estimated walking distance to pavilion BJ?
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may i ask what is the estimated walking distance to pavilion BJ?
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Apparently you can walk across the park and straight into Pavilion. I believe I've read before as well that there will be an entrance at the other end of the park that will link to Pavilion much like how the KLCC park is integrated. Could be wrong though but I honestly think it will be silly if they didn't do that.

The walk across the park and into Pavilion will take you less than 10 minutes as there's a bit of a hill climb
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please keep it fool.

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QUOTE(ryan@chua @ Nov 25 2015, 09:20 PM)
This project no basement. Save alot of costs. Should sell much cheaper than the park bk jalil.
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Expensive then just don't buy. Plenty of rich people who want to live near a prestigious mall and a massive Park with golf course opposite the road all within walking distance.

They want to live in a posh expensive building in a good area, let them lar. All bashing here green face kao kao. It's expensive definitely for Bukit Jalil, but there will be buyers.

Bukit Jalil is a premium address liaw, you guys just got the news? Haha.

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what software is this? thanks.
little bird told me it's gonna be the new high in BJ. just a tad short to hitting 4 digit psf.
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it's http://www.freemaptools.com/radius-around-point.htm

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Saw an article tat developer plan to build 479 units with estimated GDV of RM350 mil
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Saw an article tat developer plan to build 479 units with estimated GDV of RM350 mil
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I thought skyluxe launch already??
so many projects by skyworld
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QUOTE(ivanpei @ Nov 26 2015, 08:42 AM)
Expensive then just don't buy. Plenty of rich people who want to live near a prestigious mall and a massive Park with golf course opposite the road all within walking distance.

They want to live in a posh expensive building in a good area, let them lar. All bashing here green face kao kao. It's expensive definitely for Bukit Jalil, but there will be buyers.

Bukit Jalil is a premium address liaw, you guys just got the news? Haha.
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Rich people don't buy condo to live. The ones buying expensive condo usually wants to flip it after it's built.

There are plenty of double storey houses/bungalows in esplanade and bukit jalil golf resort nearby for the rich to live.

I think a lot of people here haven't lived in a high density condo before and its many problems.

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QUOTE(EgKev @ Nov 26 2015, 12:35 AM)
Apparently you can walk across the park and straight into Pavilion. I believe I've read before as well that there will be an entrance at the other end of the park that will link to Pavilion much like how the KLCC park is integrated. Could be wrong though but I honestly think it will be silly if they didn't do that.

The walk across the park and into Pavilion will take you less than 10 minutes as there's a bit of a hill climb
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I doubt you can walk all the way to the park.

DBKL need to control the entrance to prevent vandalism or fishing at night; therefore, the gates are closed at night.

I doubt DBKL wants to have so many entrances because that will incur more costs ie.guardhouses and guards




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I thought skyluxe launch already??
so many projects by skyworld
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Based on my understanding, not yet
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I doubt you can walk all the way to the park.

DBKL need to control the entrance to prevent vandalism or fishing at night; therefore, the gates are closed at night.

I doubt DBKL wants to have so many entrances because that will incur more costs ie.guardhouses and guards
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even the pedestrian from pavilion to the park is somewhere far from skyluxe

look at the left part, so walk direct way is a "no"


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when i'm looking at the picture, i think gov shall reserve the green lung between jalil sutera and jalil jaya (shops there) and link it to the current bukit jalil park with awan besar lrt station.


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even the pedestrian from pavilion to the park is somewhere far from skyluxe

look at the left part, so walk direct way is a "no"
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when i'm looking at the picture, i think gov shall reserve the green lung between jalil sutera and jalil jaya (shops there) and link it to the current bukit jalil park with awan besar lrt station.
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Are those 3 highrise blocks Parkhill Residences?
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Are those 3 highrise blocks Parkhill Residences?
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mayb those green area might getting lesser in future for development.

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mayb those green area might getting lesser in future for development.
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even the pedestrian from pavilion to the park is somewhere far from skyluxe

look at the left part, so walk direct way is a "no"
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when i'm looking at the picture, i think gov shall reserve the green lung between jalil sutera and jalil jaya (shops there) and link it to the current bukit jalil park with awan besar lrt station.
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Nice pic, looks like my hopes are dashed then. It's true they might not leave it open at night.

Only thing I can't help but notice in the pic that the water in the BJ park is so clean.. not like the teh o ais in reality lol biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Nov 26 2015, 04:39 PM)
Are those 3 highrise blocks Parkhill Residences?
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Its four blocks.. its not parkhill, it is park sky

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Its four blocks.. its not parkhill, it is park sky
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Which 3 ah?parkhill shouldnt be this part..
If talk bout lrt there and undercon 1, then shud be KR2.
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Its four blocks.. its not parkhill, it is park sky
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QUOTE(jalsrix @ Nov 25 2015, 08:21 PM)
What I am saying are all facts.

The best is buying double storey house if you can afford it, if not buy a low density condo with less troubles.

I am sure these are all common sense for most people who have stayed in both landed and condo.

You must be one of the property agents for Skyluxe, if not, you won't try to cover up the bad points in living in a high density and extremely high floor condo.  whistling.gif
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LOL you are very funny man. You are basically saying all the highrise above 15 levels are bad, and those who are buying highrise are idiots and not rich.
So you who own Arena Green less than 15 levels must be damn rich then?

Since when Im saying I am selling skyluxe? I also raise some negative points about it k like the narrow access and public parking at the road, but definitely not as useless reason like the one you gave.
So basically all the highrise in mont kiara are bad and owned by poor people la according to you logic? LOL rclxms.gif
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Let's don't ague who is selling and who is not.
I think all are trying to share some info here.

Whether selling info or info which are just for us to share among.

But i am here surely to intro u guys some properties that are worth to take a look or invest after i personally feel is good. No offense to anyone. Just my opinion.

Anyway will organise a info sharing this saturday.

Drop me a pm if anyone here intend to come.
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QUOTE(privilege2u @ Nov 26 2015, 10:43 PM)
Let's don't ague who is selling and who is not.
I think all are trying to share some info here.

Whether selling info or info which are just for us to share among.

But i am here surely to intro u guys some properties that are worth to take a look or invest after i personally feel is good. No offense to anyone. Just my opinion.

Anyway will organise a info sharing this saturday.

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QUOTE(privilege2u @ Nov 26 2015, 10:43 PM)
Let's don't ague who is selling and who is not.
I think all are trying to share some info here.

Whether selling info or info which are just for us to share among.

But i am here surely to intro u guys some properties that are worth to take a look or invest after i personally feel is good. No offense to anyone. Just my opinion.

Anyway will organise a info sharing this saturday.

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sharing = no cost
if sharing for own earning, this is not sharing but selling

you will move all point to just sell the prop for commision

if you true want sharing then just post the info here,
what for waste ppl time travel all the way just to get info
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mr agent
sharing = no cost
if sharing for own earning, this is not sharing but selling

you will move all point to just sell the prop for commision

if you true want sharing then just post the info here,
what for waste ppl time travel all the way just to get info
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Some people might say this is the best location in Bukit Jalil.

Walkable to mall and park and golf course. And yet you are in the quiet corner and highly visible from highway.
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QUOTE(elmond @ Nov 26 2015, 04:26 PM)
even the pedestrian from pavilion to the park is somewhere far from skyluxe

look at the left part, so walk direct way is a "no"
user posted image

when i'm looking at the picture, i think gov shall reserve the green lung between jalil sutera and jalil jaya (shops there) and link it to the current bukit jalil park with awan besar lrt station.
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this picture is created by malton to sell their bukit jalil city
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Some people might say this is the best location in Bukit Jalil.

Walkable to mall and park and golf course. And yet you are in the quiet corner and highly visible from highway.
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For the view i think is great, park+pavilion, goft+future garden city?
Walking wise..hard to say n still debatable.

Lets say meet fren in Pav, walk 10~15mins..sweaty already.
Or today go Pav buy groceries, fruits etc, walk 15mins back to skyluxe. I suppose this not very msian style as well.

Is either skyluxe will be very convenient or very inconvenient..will it be lk 2head cnt reach(looks walkable but then actually not)? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(ChuiChuiShui @ Nov 27 2015, 03:34 PM)
For the view i think is great, park+pavilion, goft+future garden city?
Walking wise..hard to say n still debatable.

Lets say meet fren in Pav, walk 10~15mins..sweaty already.
Or today go Pav buy groceries, fruits etc, walk 15mins back to skyluxe. I suppose this not very msian style as well.

Is either skyluxe will be very convenient or very inconvenient..will it be lk 2head cnt reach(looks walkable but then actually not)?  hmm.gif
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walk to mall i think ok lo. but how to carry groceries back? Also the park close at 8pm.


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So many agents here. Good property needs to have so many agents? ?????

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you will move all point to just sell the prop for commision

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Sharing doesn't cost anything.

But giving wrong information to potential buyers has a cost. The buyers will suffer loss of money due to bad investment.

Most property agents I know don't say any bad things about their property shakehead.gif
They are only interested in their commission, when things go wrong, they won't entertain you.

Just look around Bukit Jalil, there are lots of high density, high rise condos built during the last few years that can't sell because the owners intended to flip after it is completed.

I read an article in the Star regarding this oversupply recently. This will cause an oversupply of condos in Bukit Jalil which can't sell and can't rent at a good price. When all the new condos are completed in a few more years, it will get worse. Do you think all these property agents will care for your loss?

If skyluxe build a low density condo area below 5 storeys, this area will be very hot.

But to compete with the other high rise, high density condos in Bukit jalil such as KM1, Kiara residence, treez and whatever new high density condos, this is a formula for disaster. whistling.gif

The good flipping days are over, govt has suppressed speculation. nod.gif
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LOL you are very funny man. You are basically saying all the highrise above 15 levels are bad, and those who are buying highrise are idiots and not rich.
So you who own Arena Green less than 15 levels must be damn rich then?

Since when Im saying I am selling skyluxe? I also raise some negative points about it k like the narrow access and public parking at the road, but definitely not as useless reason like the one you gave.
So basically all the highrise in mont kiara are bad and owned by poor people la according to you logic? LOL  rclxms.gif
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I am not funny. I am just stating the facts unlike you.

Do you think that Arena Green is the ONLY condo that is less than 15 levels in Bukit Jalil? I've listed so many condos in Bukit Jalil which are about 15 levels which buyers can choose from. Why must they buy from Arena Green as you assume? laugh.gif

If you are not selling skyluxe why are you promoting Skyluxe so much? Public parking by the road is common to all condos, you're the ones giving useless reasons.

Most people with common sense laugh.gif will buy a landed property for own stay in the same area if the price of a condo and the double storey house are the same.

Narrow access road, the crowded lift, throwing of rubbish from high areas, strong wind at high floors, instability of building, renovation noise are the other factors for every high density buildings.

People do throw down rubbish from their balcony and the speed of the rubbish increases with height.

Sound doesn't travel within same floor only. Sound travel from upstairs and from downstairs. You can even hear any renovation noise from 10 floors up or 10 floors down.

All these problems won't exist or are lessened in low density buildings such as double storey landed or less than 10 storey high buildings.

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So many agents here. Good property needs to have so many agents? ?????
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Just walk around the new condos around Awan Besar LRT, many 'for sale' sign.

Nowadays it is difficult to sell high density condos.
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walk to mall i think ok lo. but how to carry groceries back? Also the park close at 8pm.
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haha..then mayb really will 2head cnt reach?
But then i think this quite good to stay 1..morning time open window see green green, mood also better.. tongue.gif
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Just walk around the new condos around Awan Besar LRT, many 'for sale' sign.

Nowadays it is difficult to sell high density condos.
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Bk jalil no longer good investment for resi.
High density only good for pavilion mall and retailers. Those who bet on the park resi for investment purpose...lol.... better own stay lar...... resi at bk jalil not much room for appreciation
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I am not funny. I am just stating the facts unlike you.

Do you think that Arena Green is the ONLY condo that is less than 15 levels in Bukit Jalil? I've listed so many condos in Bukit Jalil which are about 15 levels which buyers can choose from. Why must they buy from Arena Green as you assume?  laugh.gif

If you are not selling skyluxe why are you promoting Skyluxe so much? Public parking by the road is common to all condos, you're the ones giving useless reasons.

Most people with common sense  laugh.gif will buy a landed property for own stay in the same area if the price of a condo and the double storey house are the same.

Narrow access road, the crowded lift, throwing of rubbish from high areas, strong wind at high floors, instability of building, renovation noise are the other factors for every high density buildings.

People do throw down rubbish from their balcony and the speed of the rubbish increases with height.

Sound doesn't travel within same floor only. Sound travel from upstairs and from downstairs. You can even hear any renovation noise from 10 floors up or 10 floors down.

All these problems won't exist or are lessened in low density buildings such as double storey landed or less than 10 storey high buildings.
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Public parking by the road is common for all condos but not landed property OMG, you are such a genius. I have also highlighted the narrow road and the developer's reputation (which I have doubt on, so this make me their agent? LOL). You also say about the narrow road, so your comment is equally useless as mine?
Will you stop bullshiting, everyone here knows you make no sense.

Show us which landed property in bukit jalil same price with the condo. You are comparing apple with orange still come here and act like very smart.
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There are only two groups of people who think Bukit Jalil is good for investment;

A) Inexperienced investors who always think property always up up up

B) Property sales agents who wanna earn a commission

Saw an earlier comment stating Skyluxe got exclusive park view, golf view and pavillion view. Wah, one common property also can blow till got mountain got water. I sibeh respect!
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QUOTE(MEMC2 @ Nov 28 2015, 04:10 PM)
There are only two groups of people who think Bukit Jalil is good for investment;

A) Inexperienced investors who always think property always up up up

B) Property sales agents who wanna earn a commission

Saw an earlier comment stating Skyluxe got exclusive park view, golf view and pavillion view. Wah, one common property also can blow till got mountain got water. I sibeh respect!
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You forget another two groups of people
3. Existing owners at bk jalil who want to sub sale their property especially those rich taikors ventured into this area in early stage.

4. Those taikors invest in retailers or shop lots here.

But if here got cheap under market prices property still can buy lar. Casa green ..



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QUOTE(ryan@chua @ Nov 28 2015, 02:18 PM)
Bk jalil no longer good investment for resi.
High density only good for pavilion mall and retailers.  Those who bet on the park resi for investment purpose...lol.... better own stay lar...... resi at bk jalil not much room for appreciation
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All these flippers are going to get burned when they can't sell at higher price than what they bought.

High density condos are only good if it is situated right at the doorstep of Pavillion 2.

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There are only two groups of people who think Bukit Jalil is good for investment;

A) Inexperienced investors who always think property always up up up

B) Property sales agents who wanna earn a commission

Saw an earlier comment stating Skyluxe got exclusive park view, golf view and pavillion view. Wah, one common property also can blow till got mountain got water. I sibeh respect!
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Yes, agree. There are obviously lots of property agents in this thread trying to promote skyluxe.

Honest property agents should give people a more balanced view which I will give below.

Pros:

1. It is located very near Bukit Jalil Park so exercising there is more convenient

2. It has both Golf View and Park View when viewed from the balcony. I am assuming the balcony either faces north or south.

Cons:

1. The very narrow entrance road. You have to compete with other park goers who will park their cars there.
I don't see any other entrance at Jalan 1/155B currently. If the main entrance is Jalan 1/155B which is the same as Anjung Hijau, then the problem is partly solved.

Jalan 1/155B is NOW already very congested during non-peak hours ever since the new LRT and red lights came up. It's a bumper to bumper every morning trying to get to Kesas highway.

This will get worse when all the new condos and Pavilion 2 are completed in the future.


2. It is a high density condo in a very small area which is less attractive than other lower density condo in Bukit Jalil. You not only have to compete with lower density condo but also other high density condo in Bukit Jalil. I've already listed the cons of living in a high density condo earlier.

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Just walk around the new condos around Awan Besar LRT, many 'for sale' sign.

Nowadays it is difficult to sell high density condos.
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do u know how much the selling price? hmm.gif
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do u know how much the selling price?  hmm.gif
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This is one of them, Kiara Residence leasehold

http://www.iproperty.com.my/property/searc...=&ft=&sby=&pg=1

Another one, Z Residence.

http://www.iproperty.com.my/property/searc...=&ft=&sby=&ns=1

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Thank you to those who came for our Forum Talk and Teaser session. As informative as usual.

We hope developer keep to their promise that they will priced well with omission that the fact they should not be selling above Park Sky's PSF for the larger sizes - which are not very large anyway.

The idea is to leave some money on the Table so that buyers can have room for capital gain. In terms of product, they are a Condominium (Resi Title) and with small sizes slightly below 700 sq ft (twin arkz is 7xx+sf).


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Forum Q&A Discussion Topics Recap:

How's the market next year? Oversupply? Unsold stocks? If cannot rent how? Renovation tips. Upon VP tips and how to chase for Fast Defect works. High yield vs Low yield? Product specific vs Location specific. Hotspot now changed to Hot Properties. Commercial shops how? Why invest in Mixed developments? Is dual key a purposeful product? MRT projects still can invest although high price? What is the impact of GST so far? Political tension will affect next year or just solve 1MDB? An opinion on Reintroduction of DIBS. We aso talk about SUBSALE VALUE and the availability of transactions. Will u buy a property in area where even property hard to transact in subsale. A developer aso shared about their choice landbank will be based on Marketability of the end product.

Very interesting Forum. Straight to the point.
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Thank you to those who came for our Forum Talk and Teaser session. As informative as usual.

We hope developer keep to their promise that they will priced well with omission that the fact they should not be selling above Park Sky's PSF for the larger sizes - which are not very large anyway.

The idea is to leave some money on the Table so that buyers can have room for capital gain. In terms of product, they are a Condominium (Resi Title) and with small sizes slightly below 700 sq ft (twin arkz is 7xx+sf).
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What would be the price psf as according to latest info?
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Bk jalil no longer good investment for resi.
High density only good for pavilion mall and retailers.  Those who bet on the park resi for investment purpose...lol.... better own stay lar...... resi at bk jalil not much room for appreciation
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it wouldn't be a good short term investment for those buying at 800-1k psf currently, those that bought earlier with low 500psf+ profit much from recent developments.
anyway how I believe if you have the holding power, it might be a good long term investment
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I am not funny. I am just stating the facts unlike you.

Do you think that Arena Green is the ONLY condo that is less than 15 levels in Bukit Jalil? I've listed so many condos in Bukit Jalil which are about 15 levels which buyers can choose from. Why must they buy from Arena Green as you assume?  laugh.gif

If you are not selling skyluxe why are you promoting Skyluxe so much? Public parking by the road is common to all condos, you're the ones giving useless reasons.

Most people with common sense  laugh.gif will buy a landed property for own stay in the same area if the price of a condo and the double storey house are the same.

Narrow access road, the crowded lift, throwing of rubbish from high areas, strong wind at high floors, instability of building, renovation noise are the other factors for every high density buildings.

People do throw down rubbish from their balcony and the speed of the rubbish increases with height.

Sound doesn't travel within same floor only. Sound travel from upstairs and from downstairs. You can even hear any renovation noise from 10 floors up or 10 floors down.

All these problems won't exist or are lessened in low density buildings such as double storey landed or less than 10 storey high buildings.
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new landed property often cost much higher than condos in the same area
developers seldom build landed nowadays
some ppl for would prefer to stay in a good condo rather than staying in a landed for security reasons
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QUOTE(Iam Power @ Nov 29 2015, 04:16 PM)
new landed property often cost much higher than condos in the same area
developers seldom build landed nowadays
some ppl for would prefer to stay in a good condo rather than staying in a landed for security reasons
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Newsflash! There are many break-ins at certain high density condos. Don't ever think that security in condo is better than double storey gated community.

In fact, security is better in double storey houses gated community because most houses are owners staying whereas there are many foreigners staying in high density condos.

If you can't buy new landed property then buying landed property in the secondary market is good enough.
There are still many who want to sell their landed property.

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What would be the price psf as according to latest info?
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This is the latest info I got from a friend who asked at the property fair at KLCC today.
They haven't launched yet. You can register with them.

It is around 700-800 psf for around 1000 sq ft condo. The smaller unit would have higher psf than the larger unit.
So it is 700,000 to 800,000 Ringgit for that size.

The price isn't fixed yet so this is just an estimate.

At this price range and this high density, it's not very attractive. But who knows , there are many rich people around.

Anjung Hijau next door with park view or golf view is only selling at 500 psf.

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QUOTE(jalsrix @ Nov 29 2015, 11:12 PM)
This is the latest info I got from a friend who asked at the property fair at KLCC today.
They haven't launched yet. You can register with them.

It is around 700-800 psf for around 1000 sq ft condo.  The smaller unit would have higher psf than the larger unit.
So it is 700,000 to 800,000 Ringgit for that size.

The price isn't fixed yet so this is just an estimate.

At this price range and this high density, it's not very attractive. But who knows , there are many rich people around.

Anjung Hijau next door with park view or golf view is only selling at 500 psf.
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based on what u said, I think this prop facing phase 2 of Link2. no golf view anymore once all up.
This prop is next to the TNB station and south entrance to the park. location wise good and near church.
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From RM780psf (larger sizes of 1,131 - 1,214 sq ft).

SkyLuxe will be the most "hip" property in Bukit Jalil offering a total of 6 levels of facilities including Sky Reflective Pool. Three views - Park view, Golf view and KL City view.

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QUOTE(jorgsacul @ Nov 30 2015, 12:16 AM)
based on what u said, I think this prop facing phase 2 of Link2. no golf view anymore once all up.
This prop is next to the TNB station and south entrance to the park. location wise good and near church.
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If the balcony faces south, there is still golf view because link 2 is still far away.

If the balcony faces north, it will directly faces block A in Greenfields Apartment next door but it will have partial Golf view in the north east.


By the way, only 10% of Malaysians are Christians, not everyone go to church.

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Are you the property agent there?

Until now, nobody has confirmed where the entrance will be.

Will it be direct access from the main road or the small lane leading to Park?
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By the way, there is going to be a new road separating the Park from Pavillion, so walking directly to Pavillion from Skyluxe is not possible now due to heavy traffic.

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By the way, there is going to be a new road separating the Park from Pavillion, so walking directly to Pavillion from Skyluxe is not possible now due to heavy traffic.

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that will be a good news to the park buyer,

will skyluxe build a bridge or tunnel to pass it ??
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By the way, there is going to be a new road separating the Park from Pavillion, so walking directly to Pavillion from Skyluxe is not possible now due to heavy traffic.

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masih boleh. walk to anjung hijau--- at junction turn to treez jalan--- sampai. ini macam saja.

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masih boleh. walk to anjung hijau--- at junction turn to treez jalan--- sampai. ini macam saja.
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need to wait for pavillion BJ see where is the entrence
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icon_idea.gif i guess malton wont so generous gv them an direct access gua?
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masih boleh. walk to anjung hijau--- at junction turn to treez jalan--- sampai. ini macam saja.
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What's all this walk walk, Malaysians mentality in the end 100m also will drive one biggrin.gif.. rain la hot la tired la far la etc. etc haha

Jokes aside, on Google maps, it's 20 mins walk so in a way still manageable. If can cut through the park to reach the lower left part (as shown in the Pavilion pic) with direct access to the mall even quicker but only during the daytime la.
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Walk in the park to Pavilion's mall on-the-park pedestrian bridge.

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What's all this walk walk, Malaysians mentality in the end 100m also will drive one  biggrin.gif.. rain la hot la tired la far la etc. etc haha

Jokes aside, on Google maps, it's 20 mins walk so in a way still manageable. If can cut through the park to reach the lower left part (as shown in the Pavilion pic) with direct access to the mall even quicker but only during the daytime la.
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can walk but not a comfortable walk lo.  brows.gif
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best is still below the apartment or right beside within 100m... but 500m is ok fr a 15min walk also but confirm sweat even if slightly warm..u drive n park basement will take so long!!
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If park close at 8pm..i think walking distance will become kinda useless to apply here..
Or else need to follow lk hello boss route laugh.gif
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best is still below the apartment or right beside within 100m... but 500m is ok fr a 15min walk also but confirm sweat even if slightly warm..u drive n park basement will take so long!!
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Without any covered link way or connection bridge = cannot walk. If like that can walk every where is walkable.
Walk from sg to kl also walkable, no need bullet train. Lol
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best is still below the apartment or right beside within 100m... but 500m is ok fr a 15min walk also but confirm sweat even if slightly warm..u drive n park basement will take so long!!
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With the heavy traffic separating the park and Pavillion, it's impossible to carry your groceries across the road.

Even if they do build a bridge, most Msians are too lazy to walk up the stairs laugh.gif . That's why a lot of people died trying to cross the streets when there is an overhead bridge nearby. whistling.gif

Anyway, the gate at the park closes at night.

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Newsflash! There are many break-ins at certain high density condos. Don't ever think that security in condo is better than double storey gated community.

In fact, security is better in double storey houses gated community because most houses are owners staying whereas there are many foreigners staying in high density condos.

If you can't buy new landed property then buying landed property in the secondary market is good enough.
There are still many who want to sell their landed property.
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you just mentioned yourself double storey GATED community
many double storey aren't gated
even if they are gated, often they cost a lot
and they might be illegally gated
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you just mentioned yourself double storey GATED community
many double storey aren't gated
even if they are gated, often they cost a lot
and they might be illegally gated
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Name me one place where double storey is not gated in Bukit Jalil.

The cost is less than high rise.
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Name me one place where double storey is not gated in Bukit Jalil.

The cost is less than high rise.
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please enlighten us, we all want landed bukit jalil that cheaper than high rise.
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Name me one place where double storey is not gated in Bukit Jalil.

The cost is less than high rise.
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I'm talking about double storey in general, not referring to BJ
I am aware that BJ houses are mostly gated
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Fuuu SkyLuxe thread sibeh hot.

RM 780 psf .... hmmmm
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Can not be smile.gif
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What I am saying is the cost of security services for double storey gated community is cheaper than high rise not the price of house. doh.gif

There are many property agents here so please be careful.

High rise high density condo is not a good place for own stay.

If you have the money to buy double storey, buy it.

If not, go buy low rise, low density condo, there are many around in Bukit Jalil. whistling.gif

If you buy skyluxe just to flip, you will find it difficult to sell when it's ready in 3 years.
There are too many empty high density new condos in recent years.

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QUOTE(Chris Chew @ Dec 5 2015, 12:15 PM)
Fuuu SkyLuxe thread sibeh hot.

RM 780 psf .... hmmmm
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hmmmmm...mayb The Park is better bet? tongue.gif

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QUOTE(jalsrix @ Dec 5 2015, 01:24 PM)
What I am saying is the cost of security services for double storey gated community is cheaper than high rise not the price of house.  doh.gif

There are many property agents here so please be careful.

High rise high density condo is not a good place for own stay.

If you have the money to buy double storey, buy it.

If not, go buy low rise, low density condo, there are many around in Bukit Jalil.  whistling.gif

If you buy skyluxe just to flip, you will find it difficult to sell when it's ready in 3 years.
There are too many empty high density new condos in recent years.
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QUOTE(jalsrix @ Dec 3 2015, 10:32 AM)
With the heavy traffic separating the park and Pavillion, it's impossible to carry your groceries across the road.

Even if they do build a bridge, most Msians are too lazy to walk up the stairs  laugh.gif . That's why a lot of people died trying to cross the streets when there is an overhead bridge nearby. whistling.gif

Anyway, the gate at the park closes at night.
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Quite far to walk through lar. Especially under the hot sun.

This skyluxe at least needs to be 200psf below the Park just logical. Else the park a better bet.
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http://www.thestar.com.my/business/busines...nang/?style=biz

Property market is weak and there is an oversupply of high-rise according to report above so why is Skyluxe building high density high rise at this time?

It's a buyers' market now so don't buy to flip or you'll lose money.




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For those who want to buy for own stay and want park view and within doorstep of the Bukit Jalil park, there is still the Anjung Hijau/Greenfields next door where there are many units that are non-owner staying.

Because the rental is low, there are many owners who want to sell their units. It's only RM 500 psf in Greenfields/Anjung Hijau. Alternatively, if you want a swimming pool, there's this Green Avenue which is also around RM 500 psf. These two condos are of medium density per block.

So Skyluxe is unattractive, expensive and high density when compared to other condos in Arena Green with similar location and view.

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Walk in the park for 490m? Too much as a selling point.
Point is valid. At night how to to walk? Grocery how? No covered walkway how? What a joke man
I don't dare to walk in the park in Malaysia even day time.. Silly selling point
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Walk in the park for 490m? Too much as a selling point.
Point is valid. At night how to to walk? Grocery how? No covered walkway how? What a joke man
I don't dare to walk in the park in Malaysia even day time..  Silly selling point
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The walking distance across the park is not a selling point. It merely shows the location of the SkyLuxe in relative to the Central Court of the park.

The perimeter will have security and hence the opening of the door to the park is strictly restricted. Further details will be finalised if residents want to open any door to the park.

There are 12 major selling points, which will be disclosed here soon. The developer intend to set a new benchmark of highrise living especially catering to the "younger" populace as opposed to the more family-oriented Park Sky.

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For those who want to buy for own stay and want park view and within doorstep of the Bukit Jalil park, there is still the Anjung Hijau/Greenfields next door where there are many units that are non-owner staying.

Because the rental is low, there are many owners who want to sell their units. It's only RM 500 psf in Greenfields/Anjung Hijau. Alternatively, if you want a swimming pool, there's this Green Avenue which is also around RM 500 psf. These two condos are of medium density per block.

So Skyluxe is unattractive, expensive and high density when compared to other condos in Arena Green with similar location and view.
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I think sky world is selling concept to young generation for upgrading n competing with nearby condos facilities Ofcoz pay for service charge smile.gif
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477 units here total.. how many acres?
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I think sky world is selling concept to young generation for upgrading n competing with nearby condos facilities Ofcoz pay for service charge smile.gif
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How many younger generation can afford a 780 psf condo for own stay? doh.gif

Most people bought condo in the past to flip but many are getting burned now.
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QUOTE(accetera @ Nov 27 2015, 02:48 PM)
Some people might say this is the best location in Bukit Jalil.

Walkable to mall and park and golf course. And yet you are in the quiet corner and highly visible from highway.
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Boss, what is the other USP of this project?

So far, I see is very near to Pavilion BJ, but is the car easily accessible or to follow current flow, which residents need to exit Bkt Jalil Highway and U Turn back to Puchong direction to enter the new ramp build by Malton?

IMO, best location in whole Bkt Jalil is quite subjective but personally, along Bkt Jalil highway is only consider decent but not the best if not Pavilion Bkt Jalil USP. I rated The Treez or KM 1 West / East triangle is the best among the whole Bkt Jalil, although this square facing immediate traffic jam if to flow into Kesas direction.

They can opt for Pavilion Bkt Jalil or else, Paradigm OUG.
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For those who don't believe me, read the article below. A lot of people are selling their condos below bank valuation price.
So if you buy skyluxe at 700 psf, you will lose money in a few years time.

The best bet is for skyluxe to convert the project to double storey landed or at most 5 storeys condos, then it will sell like hot cakes.

High rise, high density condo won't sell well ....

http://www.themalaymailonline.com/malaysia...erties-for-cash

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QUOTE(jalsrix @ Dec 8 2015, 12:13 AM)
For those who don't believe me, read the article below. A lot of people are selling their condos below bank valuation price.
So if you buy skyluxe at 700 psf, you will lose money in a few years time.

The best bet is for skyluxe to convert the project to double storey landed or at most 5 storeys condos, then it will sell like hot cakes.

High rise, high density condo won't sell well ....

http://www.themalaymailonline.com/malaysia...erties-for-cash
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profit margin for that small piece of land is low, impossible for developer to build landed there.
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QUOTE(jalsrix @ Dec 8 2015, 12:13 AM)
For those who don't believe me, read the article below. A lot of people are selling their condos below bank valuation price.
So if you buy skyluxe at 700 psf, you will lose money in a few years time.

The best bet is for skyluxe to convert the project to double storey landed or at most 5 storeys condos, then it will sell like hot cakes.

High rise, high density condo won't sell well ....

http://www.themalaymailonline.com/malaysia...erties-for-cash
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not disagreeing, but will be interesting to look back in a few years thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(jalsrix @ Dec 8 2015, 12:13 AM)
For those who don't believe me, read the article below. A lot of people are selling their condos below bank valuation price.
So if you buy skyluxe at 700 psf, you will lose money in a few years time.

The best bet is for skyluxe to convert the project to double storey landed or at most 5 storeys condos, then it will sell like hot cakes.

High rise, high density condo won't sell well ....

http://www.themalaymailonline.com/malaysia...erties-for-cash
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You very power.. Can see future. So can u tell buy which one will make money?
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QUOTE(jalsrix @ Dec 8 2015, 12:13 AM)
For those who don't believe me, read the article below. A lot of people are selling their condos below bank valuation price.
So if you buy skyluxe at 700 psf, you will lose money in a few years time.

The best bet is for skyluxe to convert the project to double storey landed or at most 5 storeys condos, then it will sell like hot cakes.

High rise, high density condo won't sell well ....

http://www.themalaymailonline.com/malaysia...erties-for-cash
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They should make these condos non-luxury to lower the price..
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QUOTE(jalsrix @ Dec 7 2015, 10:13 AM)
For those who don't believe me, read the article below. A lot of people are selling their condos below bank valuation price.
So if you buy skyluxe at 700 psf, you will lose money in a few years time.

The best bet is for skyluxe to convert the project to double storey landed or at most 5 storeys condos, then it will sell like hot cakes.

High rise, high density condo won't sell well ....

http://www.themalaymailonline.com/malaysia...erties-for-cash
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Hi do u know anything about land costs?? if this is reasonably priced it will sell well.. yr terrace suggestion is rubbish as they wld be booking a few hundred mill in losses..

If skyluxe at 700psf will hv ppl queuing up..best to reduce specs n furnishing n sell cheaper
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QUOTE(Babizz @ Dec 8 2015, 07:33 AM)
Hi do u know anything about land costs?? if this is reasonably priced it will sell well.. yr terrace suggestion is rubbish as they wld be booking a few hundred mill in losses..

If skyluxe at 700psf will hv ppl queuing up..best to reduce specs n furnishing n sell cheaper
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Hahaha......how many terrace can build in that small land??
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Hahaha......how many terrace can build in that small land??
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Hahaha......how many terrace can build in that small land??
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build 18 by 50 type tongue.gif 3 storey. also make it all one way so that can be a narrower road. hahahaha

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477 units here total.. how many acres?
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Looks to be at most 2 acres or slightly more / less, so units per acre is really high actually. Land size looks pretty similar to Twin Arkz (1.9 acres).

Have to see what they offer (furnishing, facilities etc.) to see if it's justified or not with RM780 psf and such high density / acre. Parents seem to like it cause they can go morning and evening jogs everyday without having to drive or move too much
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Beware of property agents here.

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You very power.. Can see future. So can u tell buy which one will make money?
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Only buying landed property will make money.

Buying any high rise high density condos will lose money because there is already an oversupply of these condos amidst a slowing economy.

Read the article I posted earlier properly.

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QUOTE(EgKev @ Dec 8 2015, 09:44 AM)
Looks to be at most 2 acres or slightly more / less, so units per acre is really high actually. Land size looks pretty similar to Twin Arkz (1.9 acres).

Have to see what they offer (furnishing, facilities etc.) to see if it's justified or not with RM780 psf and such high density / acre. Parents seem to like it cause they can go morning and evening jogs everyday without having to drive or move too much
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If people want to go for morning jogs without driving, they can buy the neighbour Anjung Hijau at a much lower price and with lower density. Why buy this expensive condo with cramped exit and whatever other problems you will face.

Adding extra furnishing add to the cost of the condos that add on stamp duty. It's better to buy condo without furnishing and buy own own furniture.

So stop fooling potential buyers here.

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QUOTE(Babizz @ Dec 8 2015, 07:33 AM)
Hi do u know anything about land costs?? if this is reasonably priced it will sell well.. yr terrace suggestion is rubbish as they wld be booking a few hundred mill in losses..

If skyluxe at 700psf will hv ppl queuing up..best to reduce specs n furnishing n sell cheaper
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People queuing to buy? laugh.gif You're another property agent here.

You think there are no other condos/apartment in Bukit Jalil with much better pricing and with lower density?

whistling.gif

People find it difficult to sell at 500 psf in Bukit Jalil now for secondary market. Many for sale sign.

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QUOTE(jalsrix @ Dec 8 2015, 10:02 AM)
If people want to go for morning jogs without driving, they can buy the neighbour Anjung Hijau at a much lower price and with lower density. Why buy this expensive condo with cramped exit and whatever other problems you will face.

Adding extra furnishing add to the cost of the condos that add on stamp duty. It's better to buy condo without furnishing and buy own own furniture.

So stop fooling potential buyers here.
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QUOTE(jalsrix @ Dec 8 2015, 10:02 AM)
If people want to go for morning jogs without driving, they can buy the neighbour Anjung Hijau at a much lower price and with lower density. Why buy this expensive condo with cramped exit and whatever other problems you will face.

Adding extra furnishing add to the cost of the condos that add on stamp duty. It's better to buy condo without furnishing and buy own own furniture.

So stop fooling potential buyers here.
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Lol wonder who's the 'agent' here, only know how to promote Anjung Hijau. Anyway it's a matter of preference, I have the money to buy this and a few other landed properties it's up to my preference to buy this at a higher premium over your Anjung Hijau due to a much more luxurious feel / environment, facilities etc. and what not

To me, if you want to argue till the moon comes down, it boils down to the simple fact that one can buy a low cost town house for 50k (or in this case, a lower cost building such as AH) and then spend 200-300k to make it into a showroom house and live comfortably in your nest. However, the fact that you're coming home to an old building with crappy environment, this I can't take.

To some people including my own friends, it's acceptable so it's fair game as they like to spend their time indoors whereas I like to spend considerable time outdoors so this is why I'd consider spending on a higher cost condo even though it's just next door. I don't want to be resting at a bench in AH without a sky roof or a nice pool to lounge in. This is what I'm paying a premium for, to live in something that I or what I want my parents to live in.

Sure, there's more people but I like mingling with people. Social problems? Sure there is social problems everywhere, even in AH or any place in the world actually.

Not sure if I get your logic but if you call me an agent then thank you I'm flattered lol cause it's the first time someone calls me that and reaffirms my position in an engineering technical sales role lol thumbup.gif thumbup.gif

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QUOTE(jalsrix @ Dec 8 2015, 09:58 AM)
Only buying landed property will make money.

Buying any high rise high density condos will lose money because there is already an oversupply of these condos amidst a slowing economy.

Read the article I posted earlier properly.
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there is oversupply of condos, those who are able to hold will benefit, those are looking for short term gain probably will suffer in time to come.
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QUOTE(jalsrix @ Dec 8 2015, 10:02 AM)
If people want to go for morning jogs without driving, they can buy the neighbour Anjung Hijau at a much lower price and with lower density. Why buy this expensive condo with cramped exit and whatever other problems you will face.

Adding extra furnishing add to the cost of the condos that add on stamp duty. It's better to buy condo without furnishing and buy own own furniture.

So stop fooling potential buyers here.
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anjung hijau old la seriously..
design also not nice..
I wouldn't mind buying it cheap for investment, but definitely not the place I would like to stay
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People find it difficult to sell at 500 psf in Bukit Jalil now for secondary market. Many for sale sign.
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i have been living in Jalil Damai for more than 6 years since 2009. about 2 year ago i was offered to purchase the house that i rent for Rm380k for 923 sqft. thats about RM411/psft. banks' valuation was RM350k (at highest, many bank even much lower) for the unit while searching in iproperty reveals that everyone else selling the same unit for RM430k++

sounds like a deal, but instead i go for a loan reject unit direct from developer which is undergoing construction in sg besi.

the main reason was: despite i requested for the landlord to sell it on bank market value (Rm30k less) so that i don't have to fork out extra $$$ more than 10% downpayment + legal fees he refused so, citing that he's selling me the cheapest amongst others advertised for the property.

i have also engaged with like 10 agents for bukit jalil - vista komanwel, arena green, anjung hijau - everyone is selling way above bank valuation that means i have to fork out more than i should. buying from direct developer not only i got legal fees waiver, but with discount offered make me pay lesser for downpayment

now my sg besi home has completed and moved in, despite losing bukit jalil address but i tend to appreciate it more for the service apartment status - the build quality, security, facade etc definitely worth the extra monthly loan paid compared to jalil damai which has a build/material quality of Rm170k (original S&P price) paid (but selling at RM450k++ which is same as new service apartment i bought??).

when you say many for sale sign for the subsale low density condo in bukit jalil.. i believe the sellers are trying their luck by being greed. for jalil damai case, even if they sell it at lower than market value they will still earn handsome profit from the original price paid 10 years earlier.

i have just recently bought the bukit jalil pavilion's Park Sky residence and signed S&P.. because i still love bukit jalil address.

will i be able to flip my sg besi service apartment at this time with huge profit? probably not. maybe i can for breakeven. but in 4 years time until completion park sky bukit jalil, only time will tell, whether i will lose or i will gain if i want to sell either my sg besi apartment or park sky (if i can't hold both).

i am an investor, this is my risk appetite. because this works for me doesn't mean it works for everyone else.

but one thing for certain the value added to my service apartment is much better than normal condo/apartment like jalil damai, vista komanwel, anjung hijau and arena green (yes i have visited them all)

if you're buying for own stay, skyluxe or anywhere in bukit jalil is a good place to live for me. just ask yourself are you happy to pay 500sqft for 10 yrs old anjung hijau or 700sqft for a shiny new skyluxe

for investment? only time can tell but i'd say bukit jalil is a good bet for long term investment. probably not for shot time flipper


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QUOTE(electroboy @ Dec 8 2015, 11:13 AM)
i have been living in Jalil Damai for more than 6 years since 2009. about 2 year ago i was offered to purchase the house that i rent for Rm380k for 923 sqft. thats about RM411/psft. banks' valuation was RM350k (at highest, many bank even much lower) for the unit while searching in iproperty reveals that everyone else selling the same unit for RM430k++

sounds like a deal, but instead i go for a loan reject unit direct from developer which is undergoing construction in sg besi.

the main reason was: despite i requested for the landlord to sell it on bank market value (Rm30k less) so that i don't have to fork out extra $$$ more than 10% downpayment + legal fees he refused so, citing that he's selling me the cheapest amongst others advertised for the property.

i have also engaged with like 10 agents for bukit jalil - vista komanwel, arena green, anjung hijau - everyone is selling way above bank valuation that means i have to fork out more than i should. buying from direct developer not only i got legal fees waiver, but with discount offered make me pay lesser for downpayment

now my sg besi home has completed and moved in, despite losing bukit jalil address but i tend to appreciate it more for the service apartment status - the build quality, security, facade etc definitely worth the extra monthly loan paid compared to jalil damai which has a build/material quality of Rm170k (original S&P price) paid (but selling at RM450k++ which is same as new service apartment i bought??).

when you say many for sale sign for the subsale low density condo in bukit jalil.. i believe the sellers are trying their luck by being greed. for jalil damai case, even if they sell it at lower than market value they will still earn handsome profit from the original price paid 10 years earlier.

i have just recently bought the bukit jalil pavilion's Park Sky residence and signed S&P.. because i still love bukit jalil address.

will i be able to flip my sg besi service apartment at this time with huge profit? probably not. maybe i can for breakeven.  but in 4 years time until completion park sky bukit jalil, only time will tell, whether i will lose or i will gain if i want to sell either my sg besi apartment or park sky (if i can't hold both).

i am an investor, this is my risk appetite. because this works for me doesn't mean it works for everyone else.

but one thing for certain the value added to my service apartment is much better than normal condo/apartment like jalil damai, vista komanwel, anjung hijau and arena green (yes i have visited them all)

if you're buying for own stay, skyluxe or anywhere in bukit jalil is a good place to live for me. just ask yourself are you happy to pay 500sqft for 10 yrs old anjung hijau or 700sqft for a shiny new skyluxe

for investment? only time can tell but i'd say bukit jalil is a good bet for long term investment. probably not for shot time flipper
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QUOTE(Iam Power @ Dec 8 2015, 10:59 AM)
anjung hijau old la seriously..
design also not nice..
I wouldn't mind buying it cheap for investment, but definitely not the place I would like to stay
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QUOTE(jalsrix @ Dec 8 2015, 09:58 AM)
Only buying landed property will make money.

Buying any high rise high density condos will lose money because there is already an oversupply of these condos amidst a slowing economy.

Read the article I posted earlier properly.
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Short term, definitely yes, flippers or speculators going to suffer as supply > demand due to the higher density nowadays.
But in long run, definitely won't lose money, 5 years, 10 years, 20 years, 30 years, given the inflation and Msia moving towards developed country,
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QUOTE(jalsrix @ Dec 8 2015, 10:08 AM)
People queuing to buy?  laugh.gif  You're another property agent here.

You think there are no other condos/apartment in Bukit Jalil with much better pricing and with lower density?

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People find it difficult to sell at 500 psf in Bukit Jalil now for secondary market. Many for sale sign.
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Yes, there are many condos/apartments in Bkt Jalil with lower density and cheaper pricing.
For those buy for own occupation, they are free to choose at their own preference, those prefer low density at the expense of the age of condo, go ahead with anjung hijau/green avanue, they enjoy the same location with lower density & cheaper pricing.

Those wish to stay at luxury condos of course they will have to pay the premium. There's no right or wrong, it's personal preference.


But you don't forget one thing, another 10 years down the road, those old condos will become even older...
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QUOTE(jalsrix @ Dec 8 2015, 10:08 AM)
People queuing to buy?  laugh.gif  You're another property agent here.

You think there are no other condos/apartment in Bukit Jalil with much better pricing and with lower density?

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People find it difficult to sell at 500 psf in Bukit Jalil now for secondary market. Many for sale sign.
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RM 500 psf in Bkt Jalil? Not so difficult honestly. Depends on which condo but kenot say all condos in Bkt Jalil.

Unless RM 650 psf.
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QUOTE(electroboy @ Dec 8 2015, 11:13 AM)
i have been living in Jalil Damai for more than 6 years since 2009. about 2 year ago i was offered to purchase the house that i rent for Rm380k for 923 sqft. thats about RM411/psft. banks' valuation was RM350k (at highest, many bank even much lower) for the unit while searching in iproperty reveals that everyone else selling the same unit for RM430k++

sounds like a deal, but instead i go for a loan reject unit direct from developer which is undergoing construction in sg besi.

the main reason was: despite i requested for the landlord to sell it on bank market value (Rm30k less) so that i don't have to fork out extra $$$ more than 10% downpayment + legal fees he refused so, citing that he's selling me the cheapest amongst others advertised for the property.

i have also engaged with like 10 agents for bukit jalil - vista komanwel, arena green, anjung hijau - everyone is selling way above bank valuation that means i have to fork out more than i should. buying from direct developer not only i got legal fees waiver, but with discount offered make me pay lesser for downpayment

now my sg besi home has completed and moved in, despite losing bukit jalil address but i tend to appreciate it more for the service apartment status - the build quality, security, facade etc definitely worth the extra monthly loan paid compared to jalil damai which has a build/material quality of Rm170k (original S&P price) paid (but selling at RM450k++ which is same as new service apartment i bought??).

when you say many for sale sign for the subsale low density condo in bukit jalil.. i believe the sellers are trying their luck by being greed. for jalil damai case, even if they sell it at lower than market value they will still earn handsome profit from the original price paid 10 years earlier.

i have just recently bought the bukit jalil pavilion's Park Sky residence and signed S&P.. because i still love bukit jalil address.

will i be able to flip my sg besi service apartment at this time with huge profit? probably not. maybe i can for breakeven.  but in 4 years time until completion park sky bukit jalil, only time will tell, whether i will lose or i will gain if i want to sell either my sg besi apartment or park sky (if i can't hold both).

i am an investor, this is my risk appetite. because this works for me doesn't mean it works for everyone else.

but one thing for certain the value added to my service apartment is much better than normal condo/apartment like jalil damai, vista komanwel, anjung hijau and arena green (yes i have visited them all)

if you're buying for own stay, skyluxe or anywhere in bukit jalil is a good place to live for me. just ask yourself are you happy to pay 500sqft for 10 yrs old anjung hijau or 700sqft for a shiny new skyluxe

for investment? only time can tell but i'd say bukit jalil is a good bet for long term investment. probably not for shot time flipper
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Seriously +1.

Fair and good overall comment.

Cannot compare Anjung Hijau vs SkyLuxe or cannot compare a old condo vs a new and fancy condo.

I only believe The Park and Twin Arkz would be the main competitor. Same goes to existing choice of KM 1 West if big size, upon 4 yrs later.

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QUOTE(jalsrix @ Dec 8 2015, 09:58 AM)
Only buying landed property will make money.

Buying any high rise high density condos will lose money because there is already an oversupply of these condos amidst a slowing economy.

Read the article I posted earlier properly.
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Hmm. A bit overstatement bro.

Cannot agree this leh.
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QUOTE(Chris Chew @ Dec 7 2015, 11:04 PM)
Hmm. A bit overstatement bro.

Cannot agree this leh.
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my friend bukit oug condo times 4 in 5 yrs.. many landed cnt beat the appreciation he achieved.. from todays exp prices of landed in BJ how much more can it go? frm 2m to 4m?? i strongly doubt n will appreciate slowly

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QUOTE(electroboy @ Dec 8 2015, 11:13 AM)
i have been living in Jalil Damai for more than 6 years since 2009. about 2 year ago i was offered to purchase the house that i rent for Rm380k for 923 sqft. thats about RM411/psft. banks' valuation was RM350k (at highest, many bank even much lower) for the unit while searching in iproperty reveals that everyone else selling the same unit for RM430k++

sounds like a deal, but instead i go for a loan reject unit direct from developer which is undergoing construction in sg besi.

the main reason was: despite i requested for the landlord to sell it on bank market value (Rm30k less) so that i don't have to fork out extra $$$ more than 10% downpayment + legal fees he refused so, citing that he's selling me the cheapest amongst others advertised for the property.

i have also engaged with like 10 agents for bukit jalil - vista komanwel, arena green, anjung hijau - everyone is selling way above bank valuation that means i have to fork out more than i should. buying from direct developer not only i got legal fees waiver, but with discount offered make me pay lesser for downpayment

now my sg besi home has completed and moved in, despite losing bukit jalil address but i tend to appreciate it more for the service apartment status - the build quality, security, facade etc definitely worth the extra monthly loan paid compared to jalil damai which has a build/material quality of Rm170k (original S&P price) paid (but selling at RM450k++ which is same as new service apartment i bought??).

when you say many for sale sign for the subsale low density condo in bukit jalil.. i believe the sellers are trying their luck by being greed. for jalil damai case, even if they sell it at lower than market value they will still earn handsome profit from the original price paid 10 years earlier.

i have just recently bought the bukit jalil pavilion's Park Sky residence and signed S&P.. because i still love bukit jalil address.

will i be able to flip my sg besi service apartment at this time with huge profit? probably not. maybe i can for breakeven.  but in 4 years time until completion park sky bukit jalil, only time will tell, whether i will lose or i will gain if i want to sell either my sg besi apartment or park sky (if i can't hold both).

i am an investor, this is my risk appetite. because this works for me doesn't mean it works for everyone else.

but one thing for certain the value added to my service apartment is much better than normal condo/apartment like jalil damai, vista komanwel, anjung hijau and arena green (yes i have visited them all)

if you're buying for own stay, skyluxe or anywhere in bukit jalil is a good place to live for me. just ask yourself are you happy to pay 500sqft for 10 yrs old anjung hijau or 700sqft for a shiny new skyluxe

for investment? only time can tell but i'd say bukit jalil is a good bet for long term investment. probably not for shot time flipper
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well said. I dont think psf is the only consideration. Buying a house is for home. So other qualitative factors must be taken into consideration.

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QUOTE(Babizz @ Dec 8 2015, 02:08 PM)
my friend bukit oug condo times 4 in 5 yrs.. many landed cnt beat the appreciation he achieved.. from todays exp prices of landed in BJ how much more can it go? frm 2m to 4m?? i strongly doubt n will appreciate slowly
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many condo made good money. better than landed simply because the entry price is low. Say 200k to 400k is easier than 1m to 2m.

But with the 3rd loan restriction, it is difficult to buy many units....

I still prefer landed because it is easy to maintain and it won't get old easily as compare to condo. Condo also largely depends on the management initiative to maintain it.


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btw, speaking of landed property in bukit jalil.. for those who lived in Jalil Damai high floors like me would notice that they are many landed semi-D units in Jalil Sutera left vacant for years already. just look down the windows. grass also grow tall can see from above for some units there.

personally i prefer landed property too.. which i can afford in semenyih for the price i paid for park sky bukit jalil. but bukit jalil is my desirable address. i don't have 3 million to buy that semi-D in bukit jalil. i am willing to sacrifice space over distance/convenience. bukit jalil is so convenience lah.. go cyberjaya also easy, go puchong also easy, go bukit bintang also easy, ampang too.. north south east west KL all easily access. now got pavilion2 bukit jalil summore, all of my hobby in one place - karaoke, movies, shopping, yumcha just outside my doorstep and no parking headache anymore. what else could i ask.

that's why i like bukit jalil because it's cheapest now among other prime KL address areas - bukit bintang, mont kiara, damansara etc.

speaking of highrise appreciation in bukit jalil.. last time when the km1 launching i was there in sales gallery nearby arena green to buy a 388k unit and i was this close to buy it, but i didn't because my bullet wasn't that big after graduate. biggest regret in my life. go and see transacted price for km1 now.

and also back then i was in the the treez sales gallery and i was like cursing the 700k for a unit there. but who would've thought just a mere 3 months ago i was comparing apple to apple between the treez and park sky. the treez are much cheaper per sqft and more value imho. but i decided to go for the park sky anyway because of the pavilion and discount thrown. of course this km1 and the treez story was 3 years ago la.. back then property is booming, now is slowing down.. but i still got another 4.5 years to go before park sky and pavilion bukit jalil completed and see what happens to the market

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Short term, definitely yes, flippers or speculators going to suffer as supply > demand due to the higher density nowadays.
But in long run, definitely won't lose money, 5 years, 10 years, 20 years, 30 years, given the inflation and Msia moving
How many people can hold a 700 psf condo for more than 5 years? Less than 1%.

Most buyers of the expensive condos in Bukit Jalil in recent years are flippers because they just can't pay the bank instalment with the low rental once it is completed.

They gave an impression that there are many buyers for own stay but in reality, there will be many vacant units for sale once all these new expensive condos are completed. nod.gif

At that time, many will be selling below their purchase price and will start crying.

The only ones laughing are the property agents in this thread who give false info (buy, buy, buy) to potential buyers. whistling.gif

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QUOTE(jalsrix @ Dec 8 2015, 02:48 PM)
How many people can hold a 700 psf condo for more than 5 years? Less than 1%.

Most buyers of the expensive condos in Bukit Jalil in recent years are flippers because they just can't pay the bank instalment with the low rental once it is completed.

They gave an impression that there are many buyers for own stay but in reality, there will be many vacant units for sale once all these new expensive condos are completed.  nod.gif

At that time, many will be selling below their purchase price and will start crying.

The only ones laughing are the property agents in this thread who give false info (buy, buy, buy) to potential buyers. whistling.gif
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time will tell,
as you can see park sky loan reject rate is lower then other 500-700k condo,
you know those 1% ppl still not a small amount.


flipper won't choise those 700 psf condo,
their will choise those below 500k small size condo

dead chicken rairly happen in those above 1m condo
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QUOTE(Babizz @ Dec 8 2015, 02:08 PM)
my friend bukit oug condo times 4 in 5 yrs.. many landed cnt beat the appreciation he achieved.. from todays exp prices of landed in BJ how much more can it go? frm 2m to 4m?? i strongly doubt n will appreciate slowly
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Like what Cocoon boss mentioned above, I quite agree and few factors are very crucial and unable to determine.

5 years ago, of I would like to say most of the property in 2009 or 2010, already appreciated so high by the time of 5 years time expired in 2014 or 2015.

Back then, no property curb measurements and not strict compare to 2014 onwards, no LTV 70% regulatory, most new condos selling from RM 200-400k range, the period of transformation where a lot of modern and medium end condo on the market, bank's policy is less stricter and cautious compare to now, gross income vs nett income now, RPGT 5% averagely vs now 15-30% during first 5 years.

The game is very different. Appreciated by few folds is very good, if compare to landed. But at this buffer to the property investment risk journey in this crucial market, which expected to be goes beyond 2016, flippable property is more crucial than how many folds it can make, unless it had been made to determine the performances. In this case, some prop like landed is more liquid and demand compare to highrises, well, thats case to case basis.

Property prices like what Cocoon boss said, RM 200k appreciated to RM 400k is workable and easier to happen compare to RM 1mil appreciated to RM 2mil. Now, average prop price also RM 550 psf and to have fold to RM 850 psf in 3-4 years time is gonna more difficult compare to RM 200 psf appreciated to RM 400 psf.

Back then, good properties can sell above bank market value and now, most properties are sold, transacted and asking price are lower than bank market value.

Folds of appreciation already a story of previous years. Now, I rather taking the real demand price instead of market price bcz not many deals can easily concluded at highest bank market value. Transaction in the making is more crucial compare to paper profit, not only figure.
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QUOTE(jinsailoo @ Dec 8 2015, 03:24 PM)
time will tell,
as you can see park sky loan reject rate is lower then other 500-700k condo,
you know those 1% ppl still not a small amount.
flipper won't choise those 700 psf condo,
their will choise those below 500k small size condo

dead chicken rairly happen in those above 1m condo
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Flippers prefer those heavy discounts projects or easy entry project, if not of " NO entry cost " at all. LOL.
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QUOTE(jalsrix @ Dec 8 2015, 02:48 PM)
How many people can hold a 700 psf condo for more than 5 years? Less than 1%.

Most buyers of the expensive condos in Bukit Jalil in recent years are flippers because they just can't pay the bank instalment with the low rental once it is completed.

They gave an impression that there are many buyers for own stay but in reality, there will be many vacant units for sale once all these new expensive condos are completed.  nod.gif

At that time, many will be selling below their purchase price and will start crying.

The only ones laughing are the property agents in this thread who give false info (buy, buy, buy) to potential buyers. whistling.gif
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Not many ppl can hold 700psf condo is a fact. But those can afford to buy one should be able to hold it well.

My theory is if u mix with rich ppl u get rich. U mix with poor ppl u become poor.

The danger of buying into those no cash down heavily discount and dibs project. Most of ur peers are not qualified to own one in the first place and many are flippers. Price will spiral down

So know your friends well before you tie yourself together with them.


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QUOTE(jalsrix @ Dec 8 2015, 02:48 PM)
How many people can hold a 700 psf condo for more than 5 years? Less than 1%.

Most buyers of the expensive condos in Bukit Jalil in recent years are flippers because they just can't pay the bank instalment with the low rental once it is completed.

They gave an impression that there are many buyers for own stay but in reality, there will be many vacant units for sale once all these new expensive condos are completed.  nod.gif

At that time, many will be selling below their purchase price and will start crying.

The only ones laughing are the property agents in this thread who give false info (buy, buy, buy) to potential buyers. whistling.gif
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boss, please post ur words to park sky and parkhill thread as well tongue.gif
i also wish to see hw is the responses of others as i still look forward to buy 1 in jalil area smile.gif
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QUOTE(electroboy @ Dec 8 2015, 03:36 PM)
btw, speaking of landed property in bukit jalil.. for those who lived in Jalil Damai high floors like me would notice that they are many landed semi-D units in Jalil Sutera left vacant for years already. just look down the windows. grass also grow tall can see from above for some units there.

personally i prefer landed property too.. which i can afford in semenyih for the price i paid for park sky bukit jalil. but bukit jalil is my desirable address. i don't have 3 million to buy that semi-D in bukit jalil. i am willing to sacrifice space over distance/convenience. bukit jalil is so convenience lah.. go cyberjaya also easy, go puchong also easy, go bukit bintang also easy, ampang too.. north south east west KL all easily access. now got pavilion2 bukit jalil summore, all of my hobby in one place - karaoke, movies, shopping, yumcha just outside my doorstep and no parking headache anymore. what else could i ask.

that's why i like bukit jalil because it's cheapest now among other prime KL address areas - bukit bintang, mont kiara, damansara etc.

speaking of highrise appreciation in bukit jalil.. last time when the km1 launching i was there in sales gallery nearby arena green to buy a 388k unit and i was this close to buy it, but i didn't because my bullet wasn't that big after graduate. biggest regret in my life. go and see transacted price for km1 now.

and also back then i was in the the treez sales gallery and i was like cursing the 700k for a unit there. but who would've thought just a mere 3 months ago i was comparing apple to apple between the treez and park sky. the treez are much cheaper per sqft and more value imho. but i decided to go for the park sky anyway because of the pavilion and discount thrown. of course this km1 and the treez story was 3 years ago la.. back then property is booming, now is slowing down.. but i still got another 4.5 years to go before park sky and pavilion bukit jalil completed and see what happens to the market
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Boss sass. Time is money lar. Almost every property will appreciate but main thing is how long it needs. Bk jalil now all at high side, selling at 5yrs after of future value. Roi need to count in time also.

If really want to be rich in property investment, need fast also. Else when you are old just be rich, what use....
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QUOTE(ChuiChuiShui @ Dec 9 2015, 12:34 AM)
boss, please post ur words to park sky and parkhill thread as well tongue.gif
i also wish to see hw is the responses of others as i still look forward to buy 1 in jalil area  smile.gif
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I don't want to post anything which I have no information on. I haven't researched anything on park sky or parkhill and don't intend to.

What I can say is that this project won't sell well due to small land area, high density, high price and high floor(above 30 floors).

Most of the similar condos like KM1, Treez etc were bought by flippers in the past, that's why it was sold off.
At that time, the low RPGT, DIBS etc enabled these flippers to buy. Those days are gone.

Just look around these expensive high rise condos when they are completed and see the many 'For sale' sign.
Most of these can't sell at all and some will even go on auction.

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QUOTE(ryan@chua @ Dec 9 2015, 01:10 AM)
Boss sass.  Time is money lar. Almost every property will appreciate but main thing is how long it needs. Bk jalil now all at high side, selling at 5yrs after of future value. Roi need to count in time also.

If really want to be rich in property investment, need fast also. Else when you are old just be rich, what use....
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Properties won't go higher in at least a few more years. It has reached its peak this year.

The reasons why property prices went up during the last few years was because of low supply of condos, low interest rates, low RPGT.

Now the prices are very high and out of reach of the average Malaysian. In addition, there is an oversupply of condos, the rising cost of living, high RPGT, the interest rate has also increased by 25 basis point and may increase in the future if the USA increase their interest rate. Prices will go lower to consolidate.

Unless you're rich, don't buy now.

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QUOTE(jalsrix @ Dec 12 2015, 04:21 PM)
Properties won't go higher in at least a few more years. It has reached its peak this year.

The reasons why property prices went up during the last few years was because of low supply of condos, low interest rates, low RPGT.

Now the prices are very high and out of reach of the average Malaysian. In addition, there is an oversupply of condos, the rising cost of living, high RPGT, the interest rate has also increased by 25 basis point and may increase in the future if the USA increase their interest rate. Prices will go lower to consolidate.

Unless you're rich, don't buy now.
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how about landed property?? biggrin.gif biggrin.gif
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You can still buy landed property becuase that is always in demand if the property is located in KL due to scarce land.
This is because of very low supply of landed property.

But don't buy high density high rise condos, there is already an oversupply of these types of condos.


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QUOTE(jalsrix @ Dec 12 2015, 10:28 PM)
You can still buy landed property becuase that is always in demand if the property is located in KL due to scarce land.
This is because of very low supply of landed property.

But don't buy high density high rise condos, there is already an oversupply of these types of condos.
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Boss how about those limitrd high rise property that at strategic location ? Such as beside mrt , beside big mall or near to city center ?
Still worth to go for it ?

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QUOTE(jalsrix @ Dec 12 2015, 10:28 PM)
You can still buy landed property becuase that is always in demand if the property is located in KL due to scarce land.
This is because of very low supply of landed property.

But don't buy high density high rise condos, there is already an oversupply of these types of condos.
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In demand doesn't mean can afford. Secondly, many landed project out of KL address already fetching better price and high appreciation than those either KL address. So we can't generalised.

Not disagreeing with you in all the economical data as well as the macroeconomic environment. However it is important to really evaluate good deal for investment for those going ahead.

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Boss how about those limit  high rise property that at strategic location ? Such as beside mrt , beside big mall or near to city center ?
Still worth to go for it ?
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It depends on what you mean by 'limited'. If there is only one or two high rise condo in a highly commercial area near city center/MRT, then the risk is much lower.


But if there are so many high rise, high density condos/flats in the same area , you're asking for trouble if you buy them whistling.gif

Eg. Bukit Jalil - Bukit OUG condo, Muhibbah flats, Kiara residence 1 and 2, KM1, Treez, Savanna 1 and 2, Covillea, Arena Green, Greenfield, Green Avenue, Jalil Damai, Sri Rakyat, Skyluxe and all those new condos that are going to come up. I can't even keep track of all the names of the new condos springing up in Bukit Jalil ..... rclxub.gif

By the way, Berjaya still has a few high rise, high density condos they are going to launch near Esplanade sometimes in the future.

If you're buying for own stay, it's less of a problem.

But if you're buying to rent out or flip, you'll have trouble finding tenants or buyers because they have so many choices.

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If you're buying for own stay, it's less of a problem.

But if you're buying to rent out or flip, you'll have trouble finding tenants or buyers because they have so many choices.
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Property prices low. Rental can brings +ve cash flow to owner. Supply lower than demands. Many people willing to buy Subsales. Many ppl earn big bucks of money from property. Some become property gurus, property tycoons. Property club, bulk purchase club, exist in the market.

Property prices increase rapidly, can't get passive income from rental but still can cover monthly payments, Subsales still doable, flipping continues. Property gurus, tycoons, think of another way to earn big bucks of money from property by giving talks, books, developer advisors, agents, commissions from developer.

Property prices increasing rates faster than rental, rental no longer to cover monthly payments, needs to cash out small portion from salary for loan payments. But, owners still not feeling stressful.

Property prices increase, rental yields very low, owners have to cash out big portions from salary, start feeling stressful for the loan payments. Subsales slow down.

Property prices increase, supplies more than demands. Take longer time to rent out. Cash out alot for loans payments. Subsales stagnant. But asking prices still remain with some holding power.

Property prices increase. Supply continues growing faster than demand. Tenants limited. Owner fully pay for the loans payments. Cash out big portions from salary, feeling very stressful in life.

Property prices increase, both rental/subsale market stagnant, yrs holding power needs. Owners start to dispose their assets at lower market prices to reduce the burden.

Property prices increase, rental/ market continues stagnant, those who no holding power throw rental and Subsales below market prices, still no demand, throw at purchasing prices.

Property prices increase, economic downturn, living expenses increased, tenants limited, subsales no market. Owners red alert, those who no holding power start to dispose their property below purchasing prices.....

To be continued........
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This downturn is expected or anticipated after some good years . For Malaysia. , the inflation really hitting everyone and resulting much lower disposable income. Secondly. , the sentiment is not good due to slowing economy in the region and China , low oil price and political turmoil in the country.

The net income is not increasing proportionally as well unlike those publication from the government which stated otherwise. This is a real concern as well . The high debt ratio is always a big risk as in the past Malaysian demonstrated unrealistic spending power despite having relatively low GDP per capita.

All these will hit the project market , expecting adjustment , price contraction , supply and demand balancing , etc. A prolong price deflation and slow supply and demand balancing would be good to the market and in klang valley, both price growth is growing very modest if not decreasing over the past 2 year's as well as the transaction in dollar or quantity have been gradually reduced. Of course this is general, zonal price adjustment or increase ewill still be seen due to other factors.

Let's hope for a steady adjustment rather than a sharp downturn

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This topic from landed better then high rise

till now "the malaysia property market in 2016".

this topic been fully hijacked
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Sorry. Back to this . I am of the opinion that it will take time for bukit jail to turn luxury. So , the price positioning of this development is very crtical. Ttez already seen lowering the asking price to below 700psf..some even to 600 psf.


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QUOTE(spydermind @ Dec 14 2015, 07:59 AM)
This downturn is expected or anticipated after some good years . For Malaysia. ,  the inflation really hitting everyone and resulting much lower disposable income. Secondly. ,  the sentiment is not good due to slowing economy in the region and China ,  low oil price and political turmoil in the country.

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In the past, the price of condos were low so even if there are many high rise condo in the same area, there were still some demand.

But now, the price of condos has doubled or tripled but rental still remains the same. The price of condos will only go down because it has peaked
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There are still property agents here who try to hoodwinked people into buying these low-demand high rise condos like skyluxe. If you buy now, the property price of these high rise condos has a high chance of dropping once it's completed.

Property agents will laugh all the way to the bank while the buyers will cry all the way.
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Another gloomy news, Yuan is dropping so Ringgit will also drop

http://www.thestar.com.my/business/busines...-yrs/?style=biz

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QUOTE(jalsrix @ Dec 14 2015, 10:43 AM)
In the past, the price of condos were low so even if there are many high rise condo in the same area, there were still some demand.

But now, the price of condos has doubled or tripled but rental still remains the same. The price of condos will only go down because it has peaked
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There are still property agents here who try to hoodwinked people into buying these low-demand high rise condos like skyluxe. If you buy now, the property price of these high rise condos has a high chance of dropping once it's completed.

Property agents will laugh all the way to the bank while the buyers will cry all the way.
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Another gloomy news, Yuan is dropping so Ringgit will also drop

http://www.thestar.com.my/business/busines...-yrs/?style=biz
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landed getiing less and less,
you rarely see any landed launch in KL area this few year,

high rise is the new trend of property marketing,
5 year ago you hardly see high rise above 20 floor,

recent year you hardly see high rise less then 20 floor,
now is year 2015 going to be 2016.
don't put your mind in year 1990 please
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Actually one thing jalsrix said is true, the price is already too high at the moment and rental didn't keep up. Investor don't expect to get handsome profit when the project VP.

However, if I'm not mistaken this topic is about Skyluxe, not whether property is gonna crash soon or Low rise better than High rise. If want to discuss about this, go and create a new topic la. Don't understand ke? Not sure why this people still talk about irrelevant stuff and didn't stick to the topic. And even more weird is he didn't hentam other threads (project with even higher floors or higher density tongue.gif)
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QUOTE(jinsailoo @ Dec 14 2015, 12:10 PM)
landed getiing less and less,
you rarely see any landed launch in KL area this few year,

high rise is the new trend of property marketing,
5 year ago you hardly see high rise above 20 floor,

recent year you hardly see high rise less then 20 floor,
now is year 2015 going to be 2016.
don't put your mind in year 1990 please
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True, landed getting remains and remains of quantity but in terms of overall houses, it remains lesser due to multiple highrises built in whole KV.

At least, it wont be build in Bkt Jalil area for next few years as the land cost too high and profit margin not as good as highrises.

As landed in good location already unable to afford by many, good development of highrise is the key and modernized to younger or small family.

But I think jalsrix comments are not wrong but too regards of Skyluxe and Bkt Jalil as comparison. Its also applicable to other similar price projects or even other location other than Bkt Jalil.

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QUOTE(spydermind @ Dec 14 2015, 10:11 AM)
Sorry. Back to this . I am of the opinion that it will take time for bukit jail to turn luxury. So ,  the price positioning of this development  is very crtical. Ttez already seen lowering the asking price to below 700psf..some even to 600 psf.
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Boss, u mean the Treez?

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Yes. Typo. Treez.

I think skyluxe need to benchmark against Treez if it is targeting the same segment of customer. But for now , I think it will be challenging to price it higher based on the information available now on the positioning

Also need to take emote that for Treez, only about 150 unit. So easier for market to absorb.

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QUOTE(Chris Chew @ Dec 14 2015, 02:00 PM)
True, landed getting remains and remains of quantity but in terms of overall houses, it remains lesser due to multiple highrises built in whole KV.

At least, it wont be build in Bkt Jalil area for next few years as the land cost too high and profit margin not as good as highrises.

As landed in good location already unable to afford by many, good development of highrise is the key and modernized to younger or small family.

But I think jalsrix comments are not wrong but too regards of Skyluxe and Bkt Jalil as comparison. Its also applicable to other similar price projects or even other location other than Bkt Jalil.
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nothing wrong with Jalsrix's comments. Just that his comments are applicable for most of the projects in Malaysia.

The flipping game is over. Many DIBS investors/no cash down flippers got to face the reality now. biggrin.gif
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Rental play lousy and cap gain play also lousy now. Share market sideways. So how? Just Park money in fd?

Dead chickens still not so soon. I think the flippers still trying to hold on and bleeding money. The crazy wave of vp next 2-3 years haven't occurred yet. If economy still stagnant like this dead chicken will be more and more numerous.
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Rental play lousy and cap gain play also lousy now. Share market sideways. So how? Just Park money in fd?

Dead chickens still not so soon. I think the flippers still trying to hold on and bleeding money. The crazy wave of vp next 2-3 years haven't occurred yet. If economy still stagnant like this dead chicken will be more and more numerous.
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if want to invest, follow the money. The mainland chinese money.... they are going to build a port in malacca, HSR in Sg besi, oredi awarded double track rail to JB.

so if you ask me... JB and Sg Besi worth a punt. Malacca is the sole mainland chinese play with higher risk.


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QUOTE(ivanpei @ Dec 14 2015, 06:54 PM)
Rental play lousy and cap gain play also lousy now. Share market sideways. So how? Just Park money in fd?

Dead chickens still not so soon. I think the flippers still trying to hold on and bleeding money. The crazy wave of vp next 2-3 years haven't occurred yet. If economy still stagnant like this dead chicken will be more and more numerous.
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Not all the stocks can't perform. Many people gained 100%-500% profits in 2015. I also gained near to 100% this year. US stocks even more in profits, always stick to the economic trend, cycle.

Economic now not good for malaysia, doesn't mean all the company cannot perform, in fact many companies gain benefits from depreciation of rm. Haha. Park your money overseas lar, why must in malaysia. Malaysia die you also follow meh??? Don't let your emotions get in the way of your investment. Learn from jews, earn the whole world money but not stick to one place.




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QUOTE(jalsrix @ Dec 14 2015, 11:43 AM)
In the past, the price of condos were low so even if there are many high rise condo in the same area, there were still some demand.

But now, the price of condos has doubled or tripled but rental still remains the same. The price of condos will only go down because it has peaked
.


There are still property agents here who try to hoodwinked people into buying these low-demand high rise condos like skyluxe. If you buy now, the property price of these high rise condos has a high chance of dropping once it's completed.

Property agents will laugh all the way to the bank while the buyers will cry all the way.
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Another gloomy news, Yuan is dropping so Ringgit will also drop

http://www.thestar.com.my/business/busines...-yrs/?style=biz
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http://www.businesstimes.com.sg/real-estat...wo-years-report

Will it happens to malaysia? ?? Any prevention method icon_idea.gif brows.gif
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KUALA LUMPUR, Dec 14 — Malaysia’s property sector is expected to go through a “flat” year next year while market prices will benefit those looking to buy or rent houses, industry experts predicted today.

Siva Shanker, CEO of property agency PPC International, said there was no need to “panic” or worry as the property market would typically go through a cycle of a few “bad” years before recovering.

“If I were to draw a pattern, I believe 2016 will be a flat line again, it will neither go worse than it was and chances of it improving is also not there.

“And I think we will start to see a little bit of activity coming back into the market in 2017 and 2018 very slowly, hesitantly, because of the elections.

“And then when the elections are done and dusted and that’s out of the way, barring unfortunate set of circumstances, I believe in 2019 we will see the market surging forward again and the psychological year of 2020 will probably be the next high,” he said at PropertyGuru’s Property Outlook Forum 2016.

PPC International CEO Siva Shanker believes that in 2019, the property market will be surging forward again and the psychological year of 2020 will be the next high.Fellow panellist and developer Datuk Seri Vincent Tiew agreed with Siva’s predictions of 2016 as a “flat” year, but went on further to say that next year would also be a good time to buy property as property value is expected to rise by 2019 and 2020.

“Yes, I think 2019 and 2020, the prices should come back up to a very attractive pricing,” the managing director of developer Andaman Property Management said.

In the same forum, Siva said Malaysians who are looking to rent houses can expect cheaper prices next year, due to financially-squeezed property investors competing for extra income to repay their housing loans.

“I think next year, we are going to see rental shooting straight down as they compete with each other to rent their properties out so at least they can get a little bit of income which they can use to subsidise their mortgages,” he said, predicting that these property speculators will fight “tooth and nail” to keep their properties and avoid defaulting on their loans.

In PropertyGuru’s Property Outlook Report 2016 that was released today, it said it expects next year to be a buyers’ and renters’ market due to the current oversupply in property.

PropertyGuru said the annual average of unsold homes in Malaysia is at 36 per cent, adding that there is less demand with weak investor sentiment as only 54 per cent of the country’s annual total buyers buy to occupy.

The new supply of completed developments will only worsen the existing oversupply, especially in the mid-range and high-end projects, it said.

“The situation may place further pressure on developers and speculators so it is quite reasonable to expect many good deals to come into the market in 2016,” the country’s leading property site said.

“However this does not mean that prospective homeowners can start demanding prices or developers will throw prices. It just means that deals would be sweeter, especially for first-time buyers,” it added.

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nothing wrong with Jalsrix's comments. Just that his comments are applicable for most of the projects in Malaysia.

The flipping game is over. Many DIBS investors/no cash down flippers got to face the reality now.  biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(jinsailoo @ Dec 14 2015, 12:10 PM)
landed getiing less and less,
you rarely see any landed launch in KL area this few year,

high rise is the new trend of property marketing,
5 year ago you hardly see high rise above 20 floor,

recent year you hardly see high rise less then 20 floor,
now is year 2015 going to be 2016.
don't put your mind in year 1990 please
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If you can't afford landed property in Bukit Jalil, there are still some older but still in good condition, medium density apartment/condo in Bukit Jalil with much lower price i.e. rm 500 psf. which are below 20 floors.

It's too risky to buy high density condos like KM1, Skyluxe and whatever condos that are coming up in the future.


Believe me, those strong winds at above 15 floors are very strong and can blow off roof and shatter windows.

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QUOTE(jalsrix @ Dec 15 2015, 01:20 PM)
If you can't afford landed property in Bukit Jalil, there are still some older but still in good condition, medium density apartment/condo in Bukit Jalil with much lower price i.e. rm 500 psf. which are below 20 floors.

It's too risky to buy high density condos like KM1, Skyluxe and whatever condos that are coming up in the future.
Believe me, those strong winds at above 15 floors are very strong and can blow off roof and shatter windows.
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Pls, u wanna point out what the reason that old condo is better is your personal preference, but pls don use structure as reason. ok? Unless u are Professional Engineer in structure. All structure is design and certified by registered P.E, your statement is insulting the whole Board of Engineering. U can said high-rise roof maintenance is difficult than low-rise, if not being maintain well it may cause failure.

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Pls, u wanna point out what the reason that old condo is better is your personal preference, but pls don use structure as reason. ok? Unless u are Professional Engineer in structure.  All structure is design and certified by registered P.E, your statement is insulting the whole Board of Engineering. U can said high-rise roof maintenance is difficult than low-rise, if not being maintain well it may cause failure.
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if there any special type of windows / materiel for windows for about level 25 or so? icon_question.gif
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QUOTE(jalsrix @ Dec 15 2015, 01:20 PM)
If you can't afford landed property in Bukit Jalil, there are still some older but still in good condition, medium density apartment/condo in Bukit Jalil with much lower price i.e. rm 500 psf. which are below 20 floors.

It's too risky to buy high density condos like KM1, Skyluxe and whatever condos that are coming up in the future.
Believe me, those strong winds at above 15 floors are very strong and can blow off roof and shatter windows.
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Bro .... if any1 who is looking to buy landed in this Bkt Jalil area and cannot afford the RM 1.6 to RM 1.7mil terrace house, this potential buyer must be with some bullets on hand for such plan of buying landed in such area, this profile people also won't go and buy those old apartments at RM 500 psf and stay there, unless investment purpose.




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Seem like subsell agent getting desperate. Between how many able to fork out large amount for down payment and legal fees compare to new launch 3% dp or even 0 dp.
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Buying from developer new launch 3% dp or 0 % dp it means the house isn't available until 3 or more years later.

Wonder if any sellers have crafted sales arrangement which allows buyers to pay the initial payment over a period of time ? That will solve the down payment issue for the buyers too. sweat.gif
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Seem like subsell agent getting desperate. Between how many able to fork out large amount for down payment and legal fees compare to new launch 3% dp or even 0 dp.
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For Condo more than 10yrs old with selling just RM100-200/ft2 dont see a good buy. Many thing need to repair, lift, piping, roof, swimming pool, electric cable..... many unforeseen or hidden.
upfront cost higher, cause bank may not value as it.
cheaper from paper but after add in all repair cost still not sure, further condo is sharing building not easy to do repair.
for condo better go for new development or just VP 2-3 yrs, or else more than 10yrs better get landed u wanna repair don need get permission or u waanna demolish and rebuilt also can, single become double , double become triple also can. No kacau and more freedom.
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QUOTE(jalsrix @ Dec 15 2015, 02:20 PM)
If you can't afford landed property in Bukit Jalil, there are still some older but still in good condition, medium density apartment/condo in Bukit Jalil with much lower price i.e. rm 500 psf. which are below 20 floors.

It's too risky to buy high density condos like KM1, Skyluxe and whatever condos that are coming up in the future.
Believe me, those strong winds at above 15 floors are very strong and can blow off roof and shatter windows.
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Lol.. your description damn funny lar wei..... I thought you asked people don't go in to buy property now... in fact you're asking ppl to buy sub sales....lol are you a sub sales owner who holding property and not able to dispose. Haha
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I hope this thread doesn't become a kopitiam thread as any discussions of the market should be out of this thread.

Please get back to the relevant topic. Thank you.

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I hope this thread doesn't become a kopitiam thread as any discussions of the market should be out of this thread.

Please get back to the relevant topic. Thank you.
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Lol.. your description damn funny lar  wei..... I thought you asked people don't go in to buy property now... in fact you're asking ppl to buy sub sales....lol   are you a sub sales owner who holding property and not able to dispose.  Haha
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I was just responding to a group of people who said they must buy property for their own stay but don't have the money to buy landed property, so the next better choice is the subsales lower density condo.

Or would you rather they stay homeless? laugh.gif

For investment or flipping purposes, it's a doomed case to buy these high rise,high density condos such as skyluxe.
How many rich people can afford to buy these new high rise, high density condos for own stay at such an expensive price? Not even 5%. whistling.gif



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I was just responding to a group of people who said they must buy property for their own stay but don't have the money to buy landed property, so the next better choice is the subsales lower density condo.

Or would you rather they stay homeless?  laugh.gif

For investment or flipping purposes, it's a doomed case to buy these high rise,high density condos such as skyluxe.
How many rich people can afford to buy these new high rise, high density condos for own stay at such an expensive price? Not even 5%.    whistling.gif
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comparing new high dense high end condo with old low end flats is like walking into a bmws showroom n telling the buyers dont buy bmws, many problem..buy old toyotas vios no problem but drive n feel like crap..

Honestly anjung hijau is trashy n suitable for those looking fr alternative to perumahan rakyat


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QUOTE(jalsrix @ Dec 16 2015, 11:22 AM)
I was just responding to a group of people who said they must buy property for their own stay but don't have the money to buy landed property, so the next better choice is the subsales lower density condo.

Or would you rather they stay homeless?  laugh.gif

For investment or flipping purposes, it's a doomed case to buy these high rise,high density condos such as skyluxe.
How many rich people can afford to buy these new high rise, high density condos for own stay at such an expensive price? Not even 5%.    whistling.gif
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Hmmm. I think ur comment quite general but not necessary correct for all circumstances bcz all buyers have different financial agenda.

They have no money buy landed, they will find a good condo according to their budget or needs, density of a particular condo is just a general aspect. Most new buyers are prefer new condo or less than 5 yrs but not old condo, there are some also prefer old condo with good track of maintenance or good occupation rates compare to new condo.

For investment or flipping of new condo, its quite gauge bcz u refering today's market. Its actually not only on what high density condo but oso any high price low density condo if market continue to be bad or dropping.

The buyers of RM 800-1000 psf oso a different pool of buyers compare to RM 400-500 psf projects. Whether SkyLuxe is a good buy or not, its their call anyway. We wont know what happen upon its completion in next 4 yrs.

Similar to back in 2008-09 when mini crisis, when ppl bought RM 350-400 psf highrise, ppl said its crazy to buy as such timing for such prices to match landed while at bad economy. What happened in 2012? The market was very good and even these condos did well.

Well, I am not suggesting that this yr is similar to back then or next 4 yrs would be a repeat of such bull run. I only believe its getting very tough. If long term investment, the risk is generally very low. If flip game upon completion, definitely it may cause a major burn but nobody able to guarantee it.

Trace back previously, The Treez was sold at very expensive price back then upon launching. Same goes to KM 1 West, expensive and then KM1 East, huge price point and lastly Twin Arkz, was very high price based on launching time of 2013n due to complete next year.


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QUOTE(Chris Chew @ Dec 16 2015, 12:28 PM)
Hmmm. I think ur comment quite general but not necessary correct for all circumstances bcz all buyers have different financial agenda.

They have no money buy landed, they will find a good condo according to their budget or needs, density of a particular condo is just a general aspect. Most new buyers are prefer new condo or less than 5 yrs but not old condo, there are some also prefer old condo with good track of maintenance or good occupation rates compare to new condo.

For investment or flipping of new condo, its quite gauge bcz u refering today's market. Its actually not only on what high density condo but oso any high price low density condo if market continue to be bad or dropping.

The buyers of RM 800-1000 psf oso a different pool of buyers compare to RM 400-500 psf projects. Whether SkyLuxe is a good buy or not, its their call anyway. We wont know what happen upon its completion in next 4 yrs.

Similar to back in 2008-09 when mini crisis, when ppl bought RM 350-400 psf highrise, ppl said its crazy to buy as such timing for such prices to match landed while at bad economy. What happened in 2012? The market was very good and even these condos did well.

Well, I am not suggesting that this yr is similar to back then or next 4 yrs would be a repeat of such bull run. I only believe its getting very tough. If long term investment, the risk is generally very low. If flip game upon completion, definitely it may cause a major burn but nobody able to guarantee it.

Trace back previously, The Treez was sold at very expensive price back then upon launching. Same goes to KM 1 West, expensive and then KM1 East, huge price point and lastly Twin Arkz, was very high price based on launching time of 2013n due to complete next year.
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old type link house all big big become small small,
high rise from less then 20 floor till now 40 floor,

old type flat also 700-800sf now all become Soxo, where recent saw some 100++ sf shoe box

time have change a lot of thing, don't put your mind in 19++
now all use smart phone, don't still put your mind in the fix line age

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I was just responding to a group of people who said they must buy property for their own stay but don't have the money to buy landed property, so the next better choice is the subsales lower density condo.

Or would you rather they stay homeless?  laugh.gif

For investment or flipping purposes, it's a doomed case to buy these high rise,high density condos such as skyluxe.
How many rich people can afford to buy these new high rise, high density condos for own stay at such an expensive price? Not even 5%.    whistling.gif
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Aiyo, you keep posting negative information here our largest FB property agent group how to cari makan?
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Haha I don't think his posts are so powerful.

Basically if they cannot carry makan anymore, it's due to the market is already bad. Nothing much to do with his posts sweat.gif


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Haha I don't think his posts are so powerful.

Basically if they cannot carry makan anymore, it's due to the market is already bad.  Nothing much to do with his posts sweat.gif
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boss you come here grab popcorn lagi??
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My mom got a unit at Anjung Hijau. So far rental wise is good. But rental cannot move up much becoz not much of facilities.

The buyer profile for SkyLuxe is totally different. It will be tapping on those waiting list for Pavilion Park Sky, which many people are still looking for a unit. Pavilion Park Sky has a long waiting list... so I guess SkyLuxe can be a good alternative since the size composition could make it more affordable.

And btw, the meaning of affordable to Bukit Jalil folks today are between RM500-700k.

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My mom got a unit at Anjung Hijau. So far rental wise is good. But rental cannot move up much becoz not much of facilities.

The buyer profile for SkyLuxe is totally different. It will be tapping on those waiting list for Pavilion Park Sky, which many people are still looking for a unit. Pavilion Park Sky has a long waiting list... so I guess SkyLuxe can be a good alternative since the size composition could make it more affordable.

And btw, the meaning of affordable to Bukit Jalil folks today are between RM500-700k.
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What size and how much rental now ?

I don't think it's due to lack of facility. Other better facility condos the rental isn't that great either.

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old type link house all big big become small small,
high rise from less then 20 floor till now 40 floor,

old type flat also 700-800sf now all become Soxo, where recent saw some 100++ sf shoe box

time have change a lot of thing, don't put your mind in 19++
now all use smart phone, don't still put your mind in the fix line age
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Haha. True true.

Planning are always going change in every few years when age grow up, family go further stage or grow bigger.

Some youngers at 20++ always saying new condo is exp to buy thats bcz they reluctant to buy old apartment at muh cheaper price.

Those who die die wanna landed, if kenot buy good or exp landed, they go for older landed they can afford or stay in the condo for few years and plan later stage.

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QUOTE(Babizz @ Dec 16 2015, 11:31 AM)
comparing new high dense high end condo with old low end flats is like walking into a bmws showroom n telling the buyers dont buy bmws, many problem..buy old toyotas vios no problem but drive n feel like crap..

Honestly anjung hijau is trashy n suitable for those looking fr alternative to perumahan rakyat
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i always dream of getting 1 unit at anjung hijau ler.
demand and rental quite good ler. depan golf view. belakang big park. sibeh good air especially during morning.
stay high enough balcony ada golf view somemore. open door go out can see big park.
access also sibeh duper good. only draw back is 1 cp and cacat samseng management.. manyak cars park outside due to 1 cp.

tenant wise... ph, me, browny, blondie, air stewardess macam macam tenants you name it.
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i'm a newbie here and would like to asked for advise about DIBS.
IF i sign up a new property said 510k and loan margin is 89% with come to RM453900.
How much i need to paid for the progress payment ?
Developing need 48mths .

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I was just responding to a group of people who said they must buy property for their own stay but don't have the money to buy landed property, so the next better choice is the subsales lower density condo.

Or would you rather they stay homeless?  laugh.gif

For investment or flipping purposes, it's a doomed case to buy these high rise,high density condos such as skyluxe.
How many rich people can afford to buy these new high rise, high density condos for own stay at such an expensive price? Not even 5%.    whistling.gif
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Aiyo.. you keep telling the truth here.. many agents here will lost their commission income lar.

Now market already pretty bad, you make it worse more...lol




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comparing new high dense high end condo with old low end flats is like walking into a bmws showroom n telling the buyers dont buy bmws, many problem..buy old toyotas vios no problem but drive n feel like crap..

Honestly anjung hijau is trashy n suitable for those looking fr alternative to perumahan rakyat
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Please! I don't consider a high density with small land area condo a BMW. laugh.gif

It's more like a newer version of compact Proton Wira, looks nice outside but cramped due to lack of space whistling.gif

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Aiyo.. you keep telling the truth here.. many agents here will lost their commission income lar. 

Now market already pretty bad, you make it worse more...lol
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There are many property agents in this thread giving misleading info.

It must be a win-win situation for both property agent and buyers.

However, in this case, it's a win-lose situation. Property agents will be laughing while buyers will be crying if they don't heed my advice.


Yesterday, the USA has raised its interest rates after 10 years, so Malaysia might also increase its interest rate in the future to prevent the Ringgit from falling further.

This means less people will be qualified to get a bank loan based on their existing income. When there are less qualified buyers, there won't be enough buyers for condos above 500 psf.

Oil price is dropping and that will also affect the inflation rate.

http://www.thestar.com.my/business/busines...ates/?style=biz

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There are many property agents in this thread giving misleading info.

It must be a win-win situation for both property agent and buyers.

However, in this case, it's a win-lose situation. Property agents will be laughing while buyers will be crying if they don't heed my advice.
Yesterday, the USA has raised its interest rates after 10 years, so Malaysia might also increase its interest rate in the future to prevent the Ringgit from falling further.

This means less people will be qualified to get a bank loan based on their existing income. When there are less qualified buyers, there won't be enough buyers for condos above 500 psf.

Oil price is dropping and that will also affect the inflation rate.

http://www.thestar.com.my/business/busines...ates/?style=biz
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U saying people are Agent for this project, others saying u are Agent for subsale for that project. Actually who actually are agent also confusing people LOL.


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QUOTE(jalsrix @ Dec 17 2015, 07:18 AM)
There are many property agents in this thread giving misleading info.

It must be a win-win situation for both property agent and buyers.

However, in this case, it's a win-lose situation. Property agents will be laughing while buyers will be crying if they don't heed my advice.
Yesterday, the USA has raised its interest rates after 10 years, so Malaysia might also increase its interest rate in the future to prevent the Ringgit from falling further.

This means less people will be qualified to get a bank loan based on their existing income. When there are less qualified buyers, there won't be enough buyers for condos above 500 psf.

Oil price is dropping and that will also affect the inflation rate.

http://www.thestar.com.my/business/busines...ates/?style=biz
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I think you shouldn't worry for those who are going to buy this condo. In this kind of environment they must have thought it through carefully and their credit rating must be solid. Those who bought earlier and completed this year or next year are those that will be affected the most .... show your care to them hehe...
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My mom got a unit at Anjung Hijau. So far rental wise is good. But rental cannot move up much becoz not much of facilities.

The buyer profile for SkyLuxe is totally different. It will be tapping on those waiting list for Pavilion Park Sky, which many people are still looking for a unit. Pavilion Park Sky has a long waiting list... so I guess SkyLuxe can be a good alternative since the size composition could make it more affordable.

And btw, the meaning of affordable to Bukit Jalil folks today are between RM500-700k.
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I dont think there are so called "waiting list" for PArk Sky, visited their show office few week back and still have units available.
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I dont think there are so called "waiting list" for PArk Sky, visited their show office few week back and still have units available.
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There it goes, the last chance for skyluxe to do well has been blasted into pieces by you !

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There it goes, the last chance for skyluxe to do well has been blasted into pieces by you !

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sorry, i dont mean it. I always believe all property have their price. If the pricing right, there will still have demand. Skyluxe pricing still not available right?
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I dont think there are so called "waiting list" for PArk Sky, visited their show office few week back and still have units available.
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Even if there is a 'waiting list', it doesn't mean the property is good.

In the past few years, there were many flippers who bought en bloc, these are not genuine buyers who reflect the real market. These are speculators and speculators cause property bubbles. Their motives is to sell once the property is completed, they can't hold long.

The scenario now.

1. Oversupply of high rise condo in Bukit Jalil

2. More difficult to get bank loan

3. RPGT has gone up

4. Condo price has stopped going up and may be going down

5. Interest rate is going up.

6. Interest free during construction is offered by some projects to encourage speculation.




Subsale is more difficult to speculate because there is no interest free during construction. You have to pay bank loan the moment the bank loan is paid to seller. Subsale reflects the true market value.






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U saying people are Agent for this project, others saying u are Agent for subsale for that project. Actually who actually are agent also confusing people LOL.
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If I am a property agent for subsale, then I would only promote one subsale condo and blast the other subsale condo but I didn't.

I present the pros and cons of each condo/apartment and let buyer decide. There are many other subsale condos in Bukit Jalil with lower psf and bigger land space. I won't list them out or else people accuse me of being a property agent for subsale. rolleyes.gif


This is different from property agent for this skyluxe who only promotes the pros but don't mention the cons (. laugh.gif

Pros:

new condo
walking distance to bukit jalil park
short drive to Pavillion 2
park view and golf view

Cons:

high density
too many floors in one block
small land area
cramped entry/exit to condo
expensive psf when compared to older condos
expensive maintenance fees



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If I am a property agent for subsale, then I would only promote one subsale condo and blast the other subsale condo but I didn't.

I present the pros and cons of each condo/apartment and let buyer decide. There are many other subsale condos in Bukit Jalil with lower psf and bigger land space. I won't list them out or else people accuse me of being a property agent for subsale.  rolleyes.gif
This is different from property agent for this skyluxe who only promotes the pros but don't mention the cons (.  laugh.gif

Pros:

new condo
walking distance to bukit jalil park
short drive to Pavillion 2
park view and golf view

Cons:

high density
too many floors in one block
small land area
cramped entry/exit to condo
expensive psf when compared to older condos
expensive maintenance fees
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KUALA LUMPUR, Dec 14 — Malaysians are finding it increasingly harder to get housing loans as banks have less money available to lend out, financial expert Gary Chua said today.

Chua, who heads financial education firm Smart Financing, said the housing loan approval rate, which was at least 65 per cent about seven years ago, has been showing a downward trend this year with banks rejecting a higher number of applications.

He said statistics show that the 53 per cent of loan approvals by banks in the first quarter slid to just 47 per cent for residential property loan approvals in the third quarter.

“To me this is one of the key points affecting the market as well, where the banks are tightening their belts and consumers are finding it difficult to get financing from the banks to fund their dream homes, so this would definitely get even tougher moving forward,” he said during PropertyGuru's Property Market Outlook 2016 forum here.

Chua said that banks in Malaysia are suffering from low liquidity as they have lent out most of their money to Malaysians.

“And at the moment, at the industry, it’s over 90 per cent, meaning 90 per cent of the banks’ money have been lent out to consumers. That means banks are having difficulty or stress in terms of getting more money to lend out,” he explained.

“For the banks, mortgage or housing loan is the lowest yielding business to them, hence if they have limited funds to lend out to consumers, housing loans will be the first one that they will pull back,” he said, comparing housing loans to the banks’ products with higher profit margins such as credit cards and car loans.

Chua said first-time house-buyers with monthly incomes of RM5,000 also face challenges in securing loans, as banks impose a 60 per cent lending cap, which means they can only borrow a total of up to RM3,000 per month for items such as credit cards, car loan, mortgages.

Noting that current laws require banks to set aside 4 per cent of their funds and deposit this reserve in Bank Negara Malaysia's accounts, Chua suggested that this figure be brought down as it was done in 1998 and 2008 to enable the banks to have more cash to lend out.

He also said bad loans are at a “historical low” as only 1.2 per cent of borrowers have failed to repay their bank loans.

Developer Datuk Dr Vincent Tiew, who was also on the six-man panel of speakers, said that less banks in Malaysia are giving out loans now as some of them are trying to merge.

Tiew, who is the managing director of Andaman Property Management, said between 35 per cent to 65 per cent of loan applications by his prospective buyers are turned down, which meant his firm would have to approach 16 buyers to sell off 10 units.

He also spoke of the banking industry’s weaker support to the housing industry, where banks would slowly roll out loan approvals in piecemeal fashion for a development even if they had confidence in the project.

Siva Shanker, CEO of property agency PPC International, said it was time for the government to stimulate the property market, noting that past cooling measures to slow down the “mad increase” in property value have been effective and are no longer required.

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U saying people are Agent for this project, others saying u are Agent for subsale for that project. Actually who actually are agent also confusing people LOL.
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Just check back their past posts u know who is who. I think both parties also have their agenda.
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http://www.themalaymailonline.com/money/ar...nk-funds-dry-up


KUALA LUMPUR, Dec 14 — Malaysians are finding it increasingly harder to get housing loans as banks have less money available to lend out, financial expert Gary Chua said today.

Chua, who heads financial education firm Smart Financing, said the housing loan approval rate, which was at least 65 per cent about seven years ago, has been showing a downward trend this year with banks rejecting a higher number of applications.

He said statistics show that the 53 per cent of loan approvals by banks in the first quarter slid to just 47 per cent for residential property loan approvals in the third quarter.

“To me this is one of the key points affecting the market as well, where the banks are tightening their belts and consumers are finding it difficult to get financing from the banks to fund their dream homes, so this would definitely get even tougher moving forward,” he said during PropertyGuru's Property Market Outlook 2016 forum here.

Chua said that banks in Malaysia are suffering from low liquidity as they have lent out most of their money to Malaysians.

“And at the moment, at the industry, it’s over 90 per cent, meaning 90 per cent of the banks’ money have been lent out to consumers. That means banks are having difficulty or stress in terms of getting more money to lend out,” he explained.

“For the banks, mortgage or housing loan is the lowest yielding business to them, hence if they have limited funds to lend out to consumers, housing loans will be the first one that they will pull back,” he said, comparing housing loans to the banks’ products with higher profit margins such as credit cards and car loans.

Chua said first-time house-buyers with monthly incomes of RM5,000 also face challenges in securing loans, as banks impose a 60 per cent lending cap, which means they can only borrow a total of up to RM3,000 per month for items such as credit cards, car loan, mortgages.

Noting that current laws require banks to set aside 4 per cent of their funds and deposit this reserve in Bank Negara Malaysia's accounts, Chua suggested that this figure be brought down as it was done in 1998 and 2008 to enable the banks to have more cash to lend out.

He also said bad loans are at a “historical low” as only 1.2 per cent of borrowers have failed to repay their bank loans.

Developer Datuk Dr Vincent Tiew, who was also on the six-man panel of speakers, said that less banks in Malaysia are giving out loans now as some of them are trying to merge.

Tiew, who is the managing director of Andaman Property Management, said between 35 per cent to 65 per cent of loan applications by his prospective buyers are turned down, which meant his firm would have to approach 16 buyers to sell off 10 units.

He also spoke of the banking industry’s weaker support to the housing industry, where banks would slowly roll out loan approvals in piecemeal fashion for a development even if they had confidence in the project.

Siva Shanker, CEO of property agency PPC International, said it was time for the government to stimulate the property market, noting that past cooling measures to slow down the “mad increase” in property value have been effective and are no longer required.
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Skyluxe will do well. Anybody who thinks otherwise does not understand the supply side of Bukit Jalil. If ZR/KR are low end condominiums, then BJ has an acute shortage of mid end condominiums.
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Skyluxe will do well. Anybody who thinks otherwise does not understand the supply side of Bukit Jalil. If ZR/KR are low end condominiums, then BJ has an acute shortage of mid end condominiums.
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Pls explain quantitatively. And supply vs demand of both low end and middle end.

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Pls explain quantitatively. And supply vs demand of both low end and middle end.

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Feeling in the stomach. LOL.

No doubt the market served by KR/ZR and pier are quite saturated, he is of the opinion that skyluxe is fitting the supply for demand in higher market range.

The higher market range isn't saturated yet ....

According to him KR/ZR are just low end .....which is saturated now.

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Feeling in the stomach. LOL.

No doubt the market served by KR/ZR and pier are quite saturated, he is of the opinion that skyluxe is fitting the supply for demand in higher market range.

The higher market range isn't saturated yet ....

According to him KR/ZR are just low end .....which is saturated now.

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Quantitatively pls. If not just talkot at kopitiam

Saturated = __ ?
Supply = __?
Demand = __?

Thanks.



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Quantitatively pls. If not just talkot at kopitiam

Saturated =  __ ?
Supply = __?
Demand = __?

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It was a feeling in the stomach as I already said. LOL.
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QUOTE(puchongite @ Dec 18 2015, 08:57 AM)
Feeling in the stomach. LOL.

No doubt the market served by KR/ZR and pier are quite saturated, he is of the opinion that skyluxe is fitting the supply for demand in higher market range.

The higher market range isn't saturated yet ....

According to him KR/ZR are just low end .....which is saturated now.

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The units near awan besar lrt station are mostly lower end to mid end the most..
On the opposite side, high rise buildings are packaged to appear as mid end to higher end.

what he Is trying to say is the units in total based on tht classification aren't the same, so the number units in the lower end outweighs the higher end thus targeting different market.

and skyluxe seems to be promoting itself as a product of a higher end development lo
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How u all judge a development whether is it highend, mid-highend and midend.
by facilities? by number of unit? by it density?
Actually it is just agent or developer creating something that buyer feel it is worth to buy.
For me it is simple whatever class of a condo or landed, the classification is base on the type of residence who staying there. For example, just assume if majority resident in a condo are millionair in USD even that is a apartment with no facilities it also a highclass places ma.
Whatever level super higiend, highend, mid-highend and midend just to create an attraction point by developer marketing team.
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How u all judge a development whether is it highend, mid-highend and midend.
by facilities? by number of unit? by it density?
Actually it is just agent or developer creating something that buyer feel it is worth to buy.
For me it is simple whatever class of a condo or landed, the classification is base on the type of residence who staying there. For example, just assume if majority resident in a condo are millionair in USD even that is a apartment with no facilities it also a highclass places ma.
Whatever level super higiend, highend, mid-highend and midend just to create an attraction point by developer marketing team.
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judge by the finishes and material used in the unit, facilities, landscaping.



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How u all judge a development whether is it highend, mid-highend and midend.
by facilities? by number of unit? by it density?
Actually it is just agent or developer creating something that buyer feel it is worth to buy.
For me it is simple whatever class of a condo or landed, the classification is base on the type of residence who staying there. For example, just assume if majority resident in a condo are millionair in USD even that is a apartment with no facilities it also a highclass places ma.
Whatever level super higiend, highend, mid-highend and midend just to create an attraction point by developer marketing team.
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from my opinion, for highrise

affortable below 500 psf
midend 500-650psf
mid highend 650-800 psf
highend 800 psf ++
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QUOTE(lifegoon @ Dec 18 2015, 02:00 PM)
How u all judge a development whether is it highend, mid-highend and midend.
by facilities? by number of unit? by it density?
Actually it is just agent or developer creating something that buyer feel it is worth to buy.
For me it is simple whatever class of a condo or landed, the classification is base on the type of residence who staying there. For example, just assume if majority resident in a condo are millionair in USD even that is a apartment with no facilities it also a highclass places ma.
Whatever level super higiend, highend, mid-highend and midend just to create an attraction point by developer marketing team.
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Mainly price and workmanship.

There are high rise that market as high end but the quality of the finishing is terrible, and there are those that market as lower ones end up being good.
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QUOTE(jinsailoo @ Dec 18 2015, 03:24 PM)
from my opinion, for highrise

affortable          below 500 psf
midend            500-650psf
mid highend      650-800 psf
highend            800 psf ++
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Disagree.
Price tags simply asked by developer.
Same prices can get high end some low end, depends on location also.

Workmanship, famous architect design, material, facilities all to determine whether high end or low end.
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i think most people will come to his mind is
finishes and material used for that unit which also equal to quality of delivery.
Unfortunately, we cannot know whats the end product that we will get eventually. in SnP just a very simple and basic description of specification of the project/ unit. You donno what flooring, bed room & bath room fitting, electric cable, even a lift that we will get. We are just base on the show room or brochure to imagine what it will look as it.
Back to quality of work we don even get assume in SnP. Some developer said i get wat international certified but we don get assume that the min score in SnP. If fall bellow that Score what we will get compensate just like the area of the unit.
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Getting academic into the condo "classification" is not much point for this thread. Main thing is that now we have someone who thinks skyluxe is going to do well - in terms of sales - in particular.

By the way is there any project in this area isn't doing well in the sales so far ?

Maybe time has change, previous success isn't indicative of tomorrow..... sweat.gif


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QUOTE(jinsailoo @ Dec 18 2015, 02:24 PM)
from my opinion, for highrise

affortable          below 500 psf
midend             500-650psf
mid highend      650-800 psf
highend            800 psf ++
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Five year ago a condo selling 500k ppl call it highend condo but five year later a lot of condo with a nice faclities is selling 800K ppl call it highend condo but for the old condo ppl call it old condo or normal condo and never heard ppl say highend condo again.

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QUOTE(puchongite @ Dec 18 2015, 05:16 PM)
Getting academic into the condo "classification" is not much point for this thread. Main thing is that now we have someone who thinks skyluxe is going to do well - in terms of sales - in particular.

By the way is there any project in this area isn't doing well in the sales so far ?

Maybe time has change, previous success isn't indicative of tomorrow..... sweat.gif
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only time will tell whether it will do well to be honest...
I would prefer this area rather than staying near the LRT or such great proximity with the mall..
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why noone question the developer track record cashflow n ability to deliver?? we r heading into bad times now so these questions r pivotal..
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Looking at the stretch of prime land along Jalan Jalil Perkasa, there are not much land to develop anymore. Perhaps The Link 2 Phase 2 will flood the market with another 1000+ units. But then, it is not fair to compare The Link 2 with Skyluxe because The Link 2 is sitting on a mall.

Do you really think future launch at this freehold area is going to be less than RM 650 psf when building cost has gone up substantially??? Anyway, Skyluxe is not targeting first home buyers, middle income family or expatriates. Rental for this project after VP is going to suck.

To those who do not know, Skyluxe is targeting FAMILIES WHO WISH TO UPGRADE THEIR LIFESTYLE FROM THEIR EXISTING HOME THAT WAS BOUGHT MORE THAN 5 YEARS AGO.

At RM 700-800 psf, I doubt that Skyluxe is a good investment for the flippers. However, I can see the appeal of Skyluxe to potential buyers from BJ, Cheras, Sri Petaling, Kuchai and Puchong who are currently staying in their old apartments which have appreciated in value over the years.




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QUOTE(MEMC2 @ Dec 18 2015, 09:14 PM)
Looking at the stretch of prime land along Jalan Jalil Perkasa, there are not much land to develop anymore. Perhaps The Link 2 Phase 2 will flood the market with another 1000+ units. But then, it is not fair to compare The Link 2 with Skyluxe because The Link 2 is sitting on a mall.

Do you really think future launch at this freehold area is going to be less than RM 650 psf when building cost has gone up substantially??? Anyway, Skyluxe is not targeting first home buyers, middle income family or expatriates. Rental for this project after VP is going to suck.

To those who do not know, Skyluxe is targeting FAMILIES WHO WISH TO UPGRADE THEIR LIFESTYLE FROM THEIR EXISTING HOME THAT WAS BOUGHT MORE THAN 5 YEARS AGO.

At RM 700-800 psf, I doubt that Skyluxe is a good investment for the flippers. However, I can see the appeal of Skyluxe to potential buyers from BJ, Cheras, Sri Petaling, Kuchai and Puchong who are currently staying in their old apartments which have appreciated in value over the years.
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So far how is the sales??

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looks beautiful but oh so jam that area
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QUOTE(Babizz @ Dec 18 2015, 06:41 PM)
why noone question the developer track record cashflow n ability to deliver?? we r heading into bad times now so these questions r pivotal..
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QUOTE(zenix @ Dec 19 2015, 09:41 AM)
looks beautiful but oh so jam that area
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every where in kl area sure jam.
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QUOTE(AlanProperty @ Dec 19 2015, 06:42 PM)
every where in kl area sure jam.
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More jam more ONG!!!
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QUOTE(PeriPeri2014 @ Dec 19 2015, 09:32 AM)
So far how is the sales??
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Price not yet come out already start selling jor? I so outdated...

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every where in kl area sure jam.
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i wouldn't want to be enduring the traffic jam everyday if the location wasn't glamorous enough.
this development is all family sized units not investment type, even if investment type what kinda expat is going to be staying at OKR? laugh.gif
family type meaning there will be additional traffic from soccermom activities.
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QUOTE(zenix @ Dec 21 2015, 09:24 AM)
i wouldn't want to be enduring the traffic jam everyday if the location wasn't glamorous enough.
this development is all family sized units not investment type, even if investment type what kinda expat is going to be staying at OKR?  laugh.gif
family type meaning there will be additional traffic from soccermom activities.
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Okr ? Bruh u just wake up ?
I thought this project at bukit Jalil ?
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Anyone got pricing information that can be shared? kindly PM me as I am interested in this property but missed out the few sharing session
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QUOTE(Kayne @ Dec 21 2015, 11:37 AM)
Anyone got pricing information that can be shared? kindly PM me as I am interested in this property but missed out the few sharing session
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Banner at the site just up yesterday....
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Okr ? Bruh u just wake up ?
I thought this project at bukit Jalil ?
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dunno why tot cavalry at okr, must be another church there FAG/FGV something? rclxub.gif
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why noone question the developer track record cashflow n ability to deliver?? we r heading into bad times now so these questions r pivotal..
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So, any ideas for the developer financial background? Track record?
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So, any ideas for the developer financial background?  Track record?
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go SSM and pay RM10-20 you can get it
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go SSM and pay RM10-20 you can get it
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I not going to buy this . Let those who interested to buy from ssm
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SkyWorld has more than 150 acres coming soon, all in KL. The company has hired alot of talents from various established developers. Those who gone to see them will know.

It is actually the most "surprising" developer due to its unique biz model of privatising government lands.

Another similar player with similar biz model is Maxim Circles Group (Aset Kayamas/Sinerjuta/Era Ecoland/Faber Vista).

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QUOTE(Onn88 @ Dec 22 2015, 08:27 AM)
Banner at the site just up yesterday....
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Did you capture the banner image? haha
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QUOTE(accetera @ Dec 22 2015, 10:22 PM)
SkyWorld has more than 150 acres coming soon, all in KL. The company has hired alot of talents from various established developers. Those who gone to see them will know.

It is actually the most "surprising" developer due to its unique biz model of privatising government lands.

Another similar player with similar biz model is Maxim Circles Group (Aset Kayamas/Sinerjuta/Era Ecoland/Faber Vista).
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look like maxim focus in the affortable market,

this skyworld focus in middle high market
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QUOTE(jalsrix @ Nov 25 2015, 09:17 PM)
Read carefully!

The restriction is for Sg Besi development and NOT Bukit Jalil.

" company has already obtained approval in principle for the Sungai Besi development, which is located about 6km from the Sungai Besi airport. We are waiting for the height restriction approval as the area falls under the flying zone of the Sungai Besi airport."

Is Bukit Jalil 6 km from Sungai Besi airport?  laugh.gif

Stop confusing readers here.
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6 KM from the sungai besi airport, i think is Nidoz which is currently selling guaaaaaa...

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