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Investment SKYLUXE ON THE PARK @ BUKIT JALIL [OWNERS' THREAD], SkyWorld. Design the Experience.

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post Nov 25 2015, 12:28 AM

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This road is already so jammed up during non-peak hours due to the narrowing of the road by the Awan Besar LRT.

Why did DBKL allow such a high density condo to be built in a tiny area?

They should build lower density condo or houses there instead.

There are already so many new condos on this road, Treez, KM1, Kiara residence, can't remember the rest.

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post Nov 25 2015, 12:44 AM

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QUOTE(EgKev @ Aug 14 2015, 09:52 AM)
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I hope not too luxe, if not no money to BBB  cry.gif

By the way just to share my thoughts in terms of parking. When I go to the BJ park, I always park at that empty lot (where everyone else also do) and this is where SkyLuxe will now be built on.

I'm not sure if they've totally sealed off the empty lot but even when it's not, people still park at the side of the road leading to the park's entrance. Now if it is sealed off and in the future when the building is up etc. I cannot imagine the amount of cars there parking at the side of the road especially in the morning, evenings (the times when you need to get out to work is when the auntie and uncles will come to the park and the time when you need to go home is when the young families, couples and joggers will come and clog up the access road) and during the weekends (all sorts of people) rclxub.gif

I assume they'll widen the lanes as it's now just a single lane but got a feeling that access road will be filled with cars in the future (considering that the population in BJ will also increase exponentially over the next few years with all the new development and properties)
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Right now, the lane is very narrow, only one car can squeeze through.

There are not enough space for widening of the lane because they are building two blocks there when there should be only one block.

It's really high density with hardly any parking space inside the area. It would be a nightmare going into and out from the condo. The location is good but DBKL has bad management to allow such a high density condo to be build when the exit is already so congested.

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post Nov 25 2015, 11:47 AM

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QUOTE(EgKev @ Nov 25 2015, 12:42 AM)
Answer is simple for DBKL. Plot ratio.

For developer, simple, GDV. When you buy prime land for RM x million, and adding up building costs, you need to build to a certain density to make back your money and for a handsome profit.

How to build houses at that small plot of land, developer would need to sell each house for RM10-20 million each to get profit  blink.gif
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I doubt the small piece of land cause millions of dollars. It's more a case of greediness.

If you compare this area with the next door Anjung Hijau/Greenfields, the small piece of land is equivalent to only one block in Anjung Hijau. One block in Anjung Hijau is only 17 floors and building 33 floors is double the density.

Building too high a block makes the building less stable in case of strong wind.

I never buy any building with more than 15 floors, in case of earthquake, it will sure collapse.



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post Nov 25 2015, 11:49 AM

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QUOTE(EgKev @ Nov 25 2015, 01:03 AM)
Yeaps this I agree, though I do believe the main entrance should feel the main road la not the small access road to the park. Hopefully they'll widen it, will see what's their plan when it is unveiled, might be interested in the 600+sf one  biggrin.gif
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If they build only one block, then there is enough space for the exit to the main road. But if they build two blocks in this small piece of land, I think they will use the small lane to exit.

There just isn't enough space for two blocks, guard house and parking at the ground floor.
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post Nov 25 2015, 12:01 PM

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QUOTE(8sg9ft @ Nov 25 2015, 11:55 AM)
Wow, spoken like an "engineer"
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There is a reason why the old buildings in Bukit Jalil was build with lesser storeys i.e. more stability


Green Avenue - 16 storeys
Greenfield/Anjung Hijau - 17 storey
Arena Green - 13 storeys.
Bukit OUG - 16 storeys
Sri Rakyat - 14 storeys
Jalil Damai - 15 storeys


Nowadays, Greed has taken over developers rather than safety of the residence.




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post Nov 25 2015, 12:08 PM

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QUOTE(8sg9ft @ Nov 25 2015, 12:07 PM)
But how do you know buildings above 15 storeys WILL collapse when there's an earthquake? Can you confirm that the designers did not take seismic loads into consideration? Especially for those buildings that have been built in the past 3 to 5 years? Tbh, I'd rather be in KLCC towers instead of a 30 year old 10-storey flat when an earthquake strikes.

About wind, yes the higher you get it will be susceptible to strong winds. All these have been taken into consideration for sure. It's in the building by-laws for designers.
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If you guys think that this is only 'theory' and will never happen, go and visit Anjung Hijau next door.

One of the big top roofs in Anjung Hijau was blown off by strong wind a few months ago. Until now, nobody has replaced the roof so you can see for yourself the effects of high buildings.

15 storeys and below are much safer.

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post Nov 25 2015, 12:15 PM

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QUOTE(Babizz @ Nov 25 2015, 12:12 PM)
looking at his answer we need more civil engineers in the country n on lyn to explain to him..indeed ppl working in klcc shld be scared...

Even parkhill is 40+ floors..
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Do you think average developer will put in so much money to stabilise a tall building?

They don't have the money to build safety measures such as Petronas Twin Tower where an earthquake stabiliser was built into it. This cause a lot of money.
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post Nov 25 2015, 04:10 PM

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QUOTE(Tsuto @ Nov 25 2015, 12:52 PM)
I wonder if you can still find many condo less than 15 storeys nowadays considering the land is getting lesser and lesser.
For me, the concern of this project is more to the reputation of the developer (as they are launching quite a lot of projects recently amid this bad economy) plus maybe the narrow road and there will be outsider who park along the road to go to the park.
More jam more ong ... yes but must also consider the difficulty of the resident to go in and out of their home -> hope the developer will tackle this though.
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Rarity means it's more sought after. In terms of attractiveness from most to least

1. Double storey houses

2. Townhouses with 5 storeys and below

3. Condo with 15 storeys and below

4. Condo with 16-30 storeys

5. Condo with more than 30 storeys.


So it's really up to individual what they want to buy. High density condos usually have other social problems such as parking, security, lift problems.

Just ask yourself, if developers can build 30 storeys and above to make more money, why did they just build 15 storeys in the past? I've given a list of old Bukit Jalil condos. whistling.gif

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post Nov 25 2015, 08:17 PM

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QUOTE(elmond @ Nov 25 2015, 04:18 PM)
bukit jalil having lower high rise was because the restriction of sg besi air force base restriction.

after the government turn it to bandar malaysia, the whole restriction been removed, that why you can see all the new building are higher and higher.

a good example was kiara residence and kiara residence 2

old article from exsim
https://sg.finance.yahoo.com/news/City-Coun...2055573086.html
“We are waiting for the height restriction approval as the area falls under the flying zone of the Sungai Besi airport. Once we get it, we will start work on the project,” says Yam.
The Sungai Besi airport, which is now used as the Royal Malaysian Air Force base, will be relocated to make way for the Greater KL development plan under the 10th Malaysia Plan.
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Read carefully!

The restriction is for Sg Besi development and NOT Bukit Jalil.

" company has already obtained approval in principle for the Sungai Besi development, which is located about 6km from the Sungai Besi airport. We are waiting for the height restriction approval as the area falls under the flying zone of the Sungai Besi airport."

Is Bukit Jalil 6 km from Sungai Besi airport? laugh.gif

Stop confusing readers here.

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post Nov 25 2015, 08:21 PM

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QUOTE(Tsuto @ Nov 25 2015, 05:46 PM)
Someone already provided one of the answer above, and as I said before land getting rare and more and more people move into klang valley thus the condo are getting higher. And you are comparing 10 years old condo with a new one? And if you don't like highrise you can always buy landed.

I know you are selling Arena Green (less than 15 storey), thus your opinion this way? haha  rclxms.gif
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What I am saying are all facts.

The best is buying double storey house if you can afford it, if not buy a low density condo with less troubles.

I am sure these are all common sense for most people who have stayed in both landed and condo.

You must be one of the property agents for Skyluxe, if not, you won't try to cover up the bad points in living in a high density and extremely high floor condo. whistling.gif

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QUOTE(elmond @ Nov 25 2015, 08:46 PM)
please keep it fool.


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Even if you don't know how to read the article in English which specifically said 'Sg Besi' and NOT 'Bukit Jalil'.
You should be able to know how near 6 km is.

Since when Bukit Jalil has been renamed to Sg Besi ? laugh.gif

There is no way that Anjung Hijau/Skylux is within 6 km from TUDM kuala lumpur

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QUOTE(ivanpei @ Nov 26 2015, 08:42 AM)
Expensive then just don't buy. Plenty of rich people who want to live near a prestigious mall and a massive Park with golf course opposite the road all within walking distance.

They want to live in a posh expensive building in a good area, let them lar. All bashing here green face kao kao. It's expensive definitely for Bukit Jalil, but there will be buyers.

Bukit Jalil is a premium address liaw, you guys just got the news? Haha.
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Rich people don't buy condo to live. The ones buying expensive condo usually wants to flip it after it's built.

There are plenty of double storey houses/bungalows in esplanade and bukit jalil golf resort nearby for the rich to live.

I think a lot of people here haven't lived in a high density condo before and its many problems.

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post Nov 26 2015, 02:23 PM

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QUOTE(EgKev @ Nov 26 2015, 12:35 AM)
Apparently you can walk across the park and straight into Pavilion. I believe I've read before as well that there will be an entrance at the other end of the park that will link to Pavilion much like how the KLCC park is integrated. Could be wrong though but I honestly think it will be silly if they didn't do that.

The walk across the park and into Pavilion will take you less than 10 minutes as there's a bit of a hill climb
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I doubt you can walk all the way to the park.

DBKL need to control the entrance to prevent vandalism or fishing at night; therefore, the gates are closed at night.

I doubt DBKL wants to have so many entrances because that will incur more costs ie.guardhouses and guards




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QUOTE(jinsailoo @ Nov 27 2015, 10:15 AM)

you will move all point to just sell the prop for commision

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Sharing doesn't cost anything.

But giving wrong information to potential buyers has a cost. The buyers will suffer loss of money due to bad investment.

Most property agents I know don't say any bad things about their property shakehead.gif
They are only interested in their commission, when things go wrong, they won't entertain you.

Just look around Bukit Jalil, there are lots of high density, high rise condos built during the last few years that can't sell because the owners intended to flip after it is completed.

I read an article in the Star regarding this oversupply recently. This will cause an oversupply of condos in Bukit Jalil which can't sell and can't rent at a good price. When all the new condos are completed in a few more years, it will get worse. Do you think all these property agents will care for your loss?

If skyluxe build a low density condo area below 5 storeys, this area will be very hot.

But to compete with the other high rise, high density condos in Bukit jalil such as KM1, Kiara residence, treez and whatever new high density condos, this is a formula for disaster. whistling.gif

The good flipping days are over, govt has suppressed speculation. nod.gif
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QUOTE(Tsuto @ Nov 26 2015, 10:12 PM)
LOL you are very funny man. You are basically saying all the highrise above 15 levels are bad, and those who are buying highrise are idiots and not rich.
So you who own Arena Green less than 15 levels must be damn rich then?

Since when Im saying I am selling skyluxe? I also raise some negative points about it k like the narrow access and public parking at the road, but definitely not as useless reason like the one you gave.
So basically all the highrise in mont kiara are bad and owned by poor people la according to you logic? LOL  rclxms.gif
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I am not funny. I am just stating the facts unlike you.

Do you think that Arena Green is the ONLY condo that is less than 15 levels in Bukit Jalil? I've listed so many condos in Bukit Jalil which are about 15 levels which buyers can choose from. Why must they buy from Arena Green as you assume? laugh.gif

If you are not selling skyluxe why are you promoting Skyluxe so much? Public parking by the road is common to all condos, you're the ones giving useless reasons.

Most people with common sense laugh.gif will buy a landed property for own stay in the same area if the price of a condo and the double storey house are the same.

Narrow access road, the crowded lift, throwing of rubbish from high areas, strong wind at high floors, instability of building, renovation noise are the other factors for every high density buildings.

People do throw down rubbish from their balcony and the speed of the rubbish increases with height.

Sound doesn't travel within same floor only. Sound travel from upstairs and from downstairs. You can even hear any renovation noise from 10 floors up or 10 floors down.

All these problems won't exist or are lessened in low density buildings such as double storey landed or less than 10 storey high buildings.

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QUOTE(ryan@chua @ Nov 27 2015, 07:23 PM)
So many agents here. Good property needs to have so many agents? ?????
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Just walk around the new condos around Awan Besar LRT, many 'for sale' sign.

Nowadays it is difficult to sell high density condos.
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QUOTE(ryan@chua @ Nov 28 2015, 02:18 PM)
Bk jalil no longer good investment for resi.
High density only good for pavilion mall and retailers.  Those who bet on the park resi for investment purpose...lol.... better own stay lar...... resi at bk jalil not much room for appreciation
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All these flippers are going to get burned when they can't sell at higher price than what they bought.

High density condos are only good if it is situated right at the doorstep of Pavillion 2.

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QUOTE(MEMC2 @ Nov 28 2015, 03:10 PM)
There are only two groups of people who think Bukit Jalil is good for investment;

A) Inexperienced investors who always think property always up up up

B) Property sales agents who wanna earn a commission

Saw an earlier comment stating Skyluxe got exclusive park view, golf view and pavillion view. Wah, one common property also can blow till got mountain got water. I sibeh respect!
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Yes, agree. There are obviously lots of property agents in this thread trying to promote skyluxe.

Honest property agents should give people a more balanced view which I will give below.

Pros:

1. It is located very near Bukit Jalil Park so exercising there is more convenient

2. It has both Golf View and Park View when viewed from the balcony. I am assuming the balcony either faces north or south.

Cons:

1. The very narrow entrance road. You have to compete with other park goers who will park their cars there.
I don't see any other entrance at Jalan 1/155B currently. If the main entrance is Jalan 1/155B which is the same as Anjung Hijau, then the problem is partly solved.

Jalan 1/155B is NOW already very congested during non-peak hours ever since the new LRT and red lights came up. It's a bumper to bumper every morning trying to get to Kesas highway.

This will get worse when all the new condos and Pavilion 2 are completed in the future.


2. It is a high density condo in a very small area which is less attractive than other lower density condo in Bukit Jalil. You not only have to compete with lower density condo but also other high density condo in Bukit Jalil. I've already listed the cons of living in a high density condo earlier.

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Nov 28 2015, 11:17 PM)
do u know how much the selling price?  hmm.gif
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This is one of them, Kiara Residence leasehold

http://www.iproperty.com.my/property/searc...=&ft=&sby=&pg=1

Another one, Z Residence.

http://www.iproperty.com.my/property/searc...=&ft=&sby=&ns=1

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