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Investment SKYLUXE ON THE PARK @ BUKIT JALIL [OWNERS' THREAD], SkyWorld. Design the Experience.

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8sg9ft
post Nov 25 2015, 11:55 AM

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QUOTE(jalsrix @ Nov 25 2015, 11:47 AM)
I doubt the small piece of land cause millions of dollars. It's more a case of greediness.

If you compare this area with the next door Anjung Hijau/Greenfields, the small piece of land is equivalent to only one blockĀ  in Anjung Hijau. One block in Anjung Hijau is only 17 floors and building 33 floors is double the density.

Building too high a block makes the building less stable in case of strong wind.

I never buy any building with more than 15 floors, in case of earthquake, it will sure collapse.


There is a reason why the old buildings such as Green Avenue and Greenfield was build with lesser storeys i.e. more stability
Green Avenue - 16 storeys
Greenfield/Anjung Hijau - 17 storey
Arena Green - 13 storeys.
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Wow, spoken like an "engineer"

This post has been edited by 8sg9ft: Nov 25 2015, 11:56 AM
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post Nov 25 2015, 12:07 PM

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QUOTE(jalsrix @ Nov 25 2015, 12:01 PM)
There is a reason why the old buildings in Bukit Jalil was build with lesser storeys i.e. more stability
Green Avenue - 16 storeys
Greenfield/Anjung Hijau - 17 storey
Arena Green - 13 storeys.
Bukit OUG - 16 storeys
Sri Rakyat - 14 storeys
Jalil Damai - 15 storeys
Nowadays, Greed has taken over developers rather than safety of the residence.
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But how do you know buildings above 15 storeys WILL collapse when there's an earthquake? Can you confirm that the designers did not take seismic loads into consideration? Especially for those buildings that have been built in the past 3 to 5 years? Tbh, I'd rather be in KLCC towers instead of a 30 year old 10-storey flat when an earthquake strikes.

About wind, yes the higher you get it will be susceptible to strong winds. All these have been taken into consideration for sure. It's in the building by-laws for designers.

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post Nov 25 2015, 12:14 PM

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QUOTE(jalsrix @ Nov 25 2015, 12:08 PM)
If you guys think that this is only 'theory' and will never happen, go and visit Anjung Hijau next door.

One of the roofs in Anjung Hijau was blown off by strong wind a few months ago. Until now, nobody has replaced the roof so you can see for yourself the effects of high buildings.

15 storeys and below are much safer.
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Roof flying off in the wind is not design issue. It's workmanship issue. Or contractor curi makan issue by using materials that are not the same as specified by the engineers or roof specialits.

If you can say the building sways significantly when there's strong winds, then yes that is a design problem.
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post Nov 25 2015, 05:07 PM

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QUOTE(kochin @ Nov 25 2015, 02:42 PM)
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just to add on, earthquake or seismic design code is presently unavailable in Malaysia but one can opt to practise AASHTO or Eurocode where deem fit. hence that's how some buildings in KL is already bragging about their seismic resistant design features (tsk tsk especially prominent in SDB's projects).

while engineers have constantly been talking about implementation of a local seismic design code, but in truth, don't think we would witness this happening anytime soon.

btw, seismic design also spread across a few categories.
eg. you want the building core and shell (skeleton only) to remain standing after the quake or you want to include the fittings as well (M&E and architectural inclusive). hence when one says it's seismic resistant, it usually means the former only.

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