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English Clubs Liverpool Kop Talk 2014, Welcome Emre Can & Rickie Lambert

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post May 5 2014, 04:59 PM, updated 12y ago

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Full name Liverpool Football Club
Nickname(s) The Reds
Founded 15 March 1892; 121 years ago
Ground Anfield
Capacity 45,522
Owner Fenway Sports Group
Principal Owner John W.Henry
Chairman Tom Werner
MD Ian Ayre
Manager Brendan Rodgers


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Directors : John W. Henry, Tom Werner, Ian Ayre, David Ginsberg, Philip Nash, Michael Gordon
Club Secretary : Ian Silvester
Operations Director : Andrew Parkinson
Chief Groundsman : Terry Forsyth
Stadium Manager : Ged Poynton
Director of Communications: Susan Black
Chief Media Officer : Matthew Baxter
Head of Recruitment : Dave Fallows
Head of Analysis : Michael Edwards
Chief Scout : Barry Hunter

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Manager : Brendan Rodgers
Assistant Manager : Colin Pascoe
First Team Coach : Mike Marsh
Goalkeeping Coach : John Achterberg
Performance Analyst : Glen Driscoll
Fitness and Conditioning Analyst : Ryland Morgans
Opposition Analyst : Chris Davies
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post May 5 2014, 05:00 PM

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1st~!

Hopefully we will be at the end of the season.

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post May 5 2014, 05:10 PM

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This BELIEVE thingy reminds me of Belieber laugh.gif
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post May 5 2014, 05:24 PM

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post May 5 2014, 05:27 PM

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post May 5 2014, 05:33 PM

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post May 5 2014, 05:46 PM

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Reporting for duty! CP here we come!
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post May 5 2014, 06:17 PM

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Reporting at first page. Champion league coming to town.
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post May 5 2014, 06:34 PM

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Yeah Champions league........hope they are grouped together with Roma....then have chance to catch them in Olimpico stadium in Rome.
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reporting... saving energy mode for early morning appointment with the Reds
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post May 5 2014, 06:42 PM

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I still stick with 12-0 tonight. 4 player red card. 3 from them gonna bite suarez
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QUOTE(shamsul_LP @ May 5 2014, 06:42 PM)
I still stick with 12-0 tonight. 4 player red card. 3 from them gonna bite suarez
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4 players sent off? I thought max is 3 bro? If 4 the match would be abandoned and the opposing team would be declared as winner but that is cup competition la. Not sure about league tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Mikeshashimi @ May 5 2014, 05:00 PM)
1st~!

Hopefully we will be at the end of the season.
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Well, and I am 1st to say "1st means nothing unless it comes with a trophy" brows.gif
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Shankly spirit..new tread for the reds here. Hopefully we can overcome CP with big margin. There will be many reds around the world gather in Liverpool this weekend. I am going there but can't fined a hotel with vacant room. All fully book! Luckily, I have a friend there who willing to let me stay at his place. Just imagine, all the hotels e.g. hostels, 1 star, 2 stars, 3 stars, 4 stars & 5 stars hotels all are fully book.it means thousands of the reds fans outside Liverpool will be there this weekend.
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QUOTE(dillonyong @ May 5 2014, 06:46 PM)
4 players sent off? I thought max is 3 bro? If 4 the match would be abandoned and the opposing team would be declared as winner but that is cup competition la. Not sure about league tongue.gif
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Ok.then i stick with 3 red card. 3 more injured and cannot run anymore laugh.gif
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post May 5 2014, 07:24 PM

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10-0 cukup la...nak 3 4 orang sent off lagi ke? Apa lagi penyokong Liverpool mau?? tongue.gif tongue.gif
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QUOTE(8sg9ft @ May 5 2014, 07:24 PM)
10-0 cukup la...nak 3 4 orang sent off lagi ke? Apa lagi penyokong Liverpool mau?? tongue.gif tongue.gif
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All the goals we scored must be penalties #PenaltyPool smile.gif

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Mathematically, if Man. City fails to win one of d remaining matches, and Liv. winning d remaining 2 matches, then its enough 4 Liv. to lift d trophy ady rclxm9.gif Let that historic day come!! drool.gif
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We should win tonight's match against CP to put pressure on City. Anything can happen on preassure. Keep the faith.
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QUOTE(stickmanchong17 @ May 5 2014, 07:38 PM)
Mathematically, if Man. City fails to win one of d remaining matches, and Liv. winning d remaining 2 matches, then its enough 4 Liv. to lift d trophy ady  rclxm9.gif Let that historic day come!!  drool.gif
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Mathematically, the most likely match was City previous match VS Everton. Unfortunately they pulled through.
Now both their games left are against mid table team with nothing to play for. Plus playing both matches at home as well.
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QUOTE(AskarPerang @ May 5 2014, 07:43 PM)
Mathematically, the most likely match was City previous match VS Everton. Unfortunately they pulled through.
Now both their games left are against mid table team with nothing to play for. Plus playing both matches at home as well.
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True... but they will be in preassure to win the games even though on paper it will be an easy win for them. I still expect another twist in the title race. City to draw in 1 of their 2 remaining games. #BELIEVE
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QUOTE(digilife @ May 5 2014, 07:46 PM)
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QUOTE(manx @ May 5 2014, 07:47 PM)
True... but they will be in preassure to win the games even though on paper it will be an easy win for them. I still expect another twist in the title race. City to draw in 1 of their 2 remaining games. #BELIEVE
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Totally agree. City may seem strong, but they can be vulnerable at times. I really, really hope City draws a match. When Liv. wins title, they can show their supporters and critics that Liverpool FC can be a great footabll club too! wink.gif
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QUOTE(digilife @ May 5 2014, 07:46 PM)
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Then, there is really no spoon! tongue.gif
It's just a mental projection of a digital football result. tongue.gif

Or the digital projection of your mentally haywire self. LOL biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(jialitrading @ May 5 2014, 08:09 PM)
Feeling so nervous...

Hopefully we can score 4 goals in first half..and another 4/5 goals in the second half..
And also hope they wont park the bus..

Another good thing is: REF = Clattenburg

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why not hope we can produce not just another 5 star performance, but beyond? 7-0 also can whistling.gif anyway, ball is round, let's hope for the best, YNWA icon_rolleyes.gif
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My brain says Liverpool will be champion of 2013/14, my heart says Liverpool too will be champs and my whole body says we will be champion...so let it be...we will be champion come 11th of May 2014...if not, rugilah aku simpan duit pergi ke Anfield...
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QUOTE(8sg9ft @ May 5 2014, 07:24 PM)
10-0 cukup la...nak 3 4 orang sent off lagi ke? Apa lagi penyokong Liverpool mau?? tongue.gif tongue.gif
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Mau epl. Ni chance nak menang epl. Thn don xtwla boleh dok kt tahap ni ke x...
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QUOTE(shamsul_LP @ May 5 2014, 08:33 PM)
Mau epl. Ni chance nak menang epl. Thn don xtwla boleh dok kt tahap ni ke x...
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Percayalah dalam LFC. Tahun depan mesti boleh lagi..
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QUOTE(dillonyong @ May 5 2014, 08:06 PM)
Then, there is really no spoon! tongue.gif
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Believe in your team la Dillion

We can make it, we have the burning desire to do it.

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Congratulations to Luis Suarez, who has today been voted the 2014 Footballer of the Year by the Football Writers' Association


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Suarez will become the top goalscorer ever in bpl history.
But to score 9 goals is next to impossible.
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QUOTE(dillonyong @ May 5 2014, 06:48 PM)
Well, and I am 1st to say "1st means nothing unless it comes with a trophy"  brows.gif
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Crystal Palace 2-2 Liverpool or,

Crystal Palace 2-1 Liverpool

Tony Pulis can stun big2 teams


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Anyone staying up/waking up later to watch the match?
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QUOTE(kensh!!n @ May 5 2014, 10:18 PM)
Crystal Palace 2-2 Liverpool or,

Crystal Palace 2-1 Liverpool

Tony Pulis can stun big2 teams
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QUOTE(w_lun @ May 6 2014, 12:01 AM)
Anyone staying up/waking up later to watch the match?
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Worst come to worst , Medical Cert la ..........

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QUOTE(Sentinel92 @ May 6 2014, 02:20 AM)
Current squad list.
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15 min more fellow kopites, come on make us dream with 12-0 #ynwa
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QUOTE(cyclonez @ May 6 2014, 02:46 AM)
15 min more fellow kopites, come on make us dream with 12-0 #ynwa
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Cout on bench Lucas and Allen start
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Sakho miss a chance
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"he almost being embarrassed scoring that goal"

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Liverpool turned off already??
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Many good attacking movement but poor finishing... Cmon lads!!!
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Lucas is clueless >.<
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Hmm finishing not sharp, Lucas really clueless today
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Lucas is clueless >.<
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QUOTE(cyclonez @ May 6 2014, 03:48 AM)
Hmm finishing not sharp, Lucas really clueless today
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swap gerrard and lucas roles.
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Eight more goals to come soon
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QUOTE(this issit! @ May 6 2014, 03:50 AM)
swap gerrard and lucas roles.
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Our defence playing high so i prefer gerrard in the back.With lucas we might see alot of keeper back pass.
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post May 6 2014, 03:59 AM

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Johnson's miss head infront of open goal. Penalty nt given.

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Yes Sturridge !!!!!! Goal!!!!!!
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Cmon lads!! 6 more
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More!!! YNwA!
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We need coutinho. N more goals.
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Anyone else felt Johnson given so much space but failed to do anything with it. Zzzzz
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Hmmm why sterling for cout?
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Forget about the 9 goals.. Wake up and start defending!!! mad.gif just win the game
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horrible team performance
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if this ia not a joke, i dont know what is. horrible horrible defending
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Should have sub out Lucas and johnson instead of sterling and sturridge
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Lucas is piss poor...
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Wow I didnt get up. And upon checking my phone.. seeing that its istanbul reversed on us. Heartbreaking. Our defence has let us down again amd again amd again.
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Br need to fix the defence or more shit like this gonna happen next season.
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Well..congratulation City then...sigh....
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What a waste.. BR needs to rebuild the back 4 again..
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So Chelsea is still on the title race then.. We are over achieving this season, a confirm CL spot is really a bonus for me already.

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Our problem lies within the back. So many games slipped due to incompetent defending. And when I see the highlights ill be assured that its gonna be a defensive joke. 3 goals in thw final 10? Come on.

Congrats City.
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What a game... till next season then. Back 4 always let us down this season. Hope BR will do something in the summer.
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I guess all we need now is a miracle from aston villa and west ham. Doubt both the team will win but you never know..
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I guess all we need now is a miracle from aston villa and  west ham. Doubt both the team will win but you never know..
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I dont think so. Since we lost to Chelsea last week, the title already gone. Dont see City dropping any points in the last 2 games. Anyway, thanks Liverpool for the memorable quest and journey this season. Its been wonderful and awesome to experience this scenarion in May. Well Done!

Till we back again mext season.
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We already achieved what we came from~ it's already a great year for us. We can only pray WH or AV won the game against them.. Doesn't matter if they do or not~ Our player had already give all theirs YNWA~
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Y all ppl like surrender the title chase oredi?

Liverpool is top of the league.

No match is won until it is won. City still hv to win to get the point.match in hand doesnt equal point in hand.

Shamed on those so call veteren liverpool fans give up before the title is lost.
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Back to lower expectation.. CL spot & summer star signings.. ill celebrate home game vs Newcastle.. we archieved what we supposed to. Looking forward next season..
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One word... naivity.

The most dangerous thing to concede in football with 10 minutes to go is momentum. We didn't need to overcommit at 1-3. Slow down the game, break their momentum. We look jaded at the end and it's not surprising, given the tempo we've played with for the first 80 minutes of the game.

It's a bitter pill, but one we have to swallow if we want to take this team to the next level.

It has been a great season. I started the season just wanting Liverpool to fight for something until the end of season and got more than I asked for. It's heartbreaking, but we're Liverpool... we've been through worst.

Let's round this season up with a home win against Newcastle. Whether we finish first or second, it doesn't matter now. Pressure is on City.

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I still believe we can make it... Mancity lose one game and the title is ours... Need a new pair of quality fullbacks next season... Johnson time's up... Need quality players on the bench... Not aspas, Moses type of mediocre...
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Our defense is a bloody joke, we've come this far and the defense just have to screw up. I'm sorry but throwing away a 3-0 lead at this stage of the season is unforgivable. And that includes BR, as manager he should have seen this coming. Skrtel despite being impressive at times, is a liability. Sakho hasn't been impressive lately either. Glen Johnson is the worst of the lot, he don't deserve to be a Liverpool player.
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I still believe we can make it... Mancity lose one game and the title is ours... Need a new pair of quality fullbacks next season... Johnson time's up... Need quality players on the bench... Not aspas, Moses type of mediocre...
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liverpool is on top of EPL!
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QUOTE(dragontongue88 @ May 6 2014, 05:10 AM)
Our defense is a bloody joke, we've come this far and the defense just have to screw up. I'm sorry but throwing away a 3-0 lead at this stage of the season is unforgivable. And that includes BR, as manager he should have seen this coming. Skrtel despite being impressive at times, is a liability. Sakho hasn't been impressive lately either. Glen Johnson is the worst of the lot, he don't deserve to be a Liverpool player.
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I can't believe what you just said
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I saw the match. Its really heartbreaking. Cant see how and why we could concede 3 goals out of no where. Im still stunt with what just happen. Tot we were is a healthy position n was hoping for more goals. Giess this is the end of the road for this season. Full on advantage to city now. The guys have given their best, and vant blame anyone but luck which has run out. YNWA.
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QUOTE(dragontongue88 @ May 6 2014, 05:10 AM)
Our defense is a bloody joke, we've come this far and the defense just have to screw up. I'm sorry but throwing away a 3-0 lead at this stage of the season is unforgivable. And that includes BR, as manager he should have seen this coming. Skrtel despite being impressive at times, is a liability. Sakho hasn't been impressive lately either. Glen Johnson is the worst of the lot, he don't deserve to be a Liverpool player.
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Nothing to be down
Look at the positives

a) From 7th to what we are now, 1st

b) 84 points

c) highest scorers in league thus far, almost 100 goals

d) CL

e) you can add on
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Enjoy every moment.

We are still on TOP now

Anything can happen next.

Cherish it

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ps, I will curse Citeh to lose to Villa next !!!
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Ask urself did u even think about liv going for PL title.. if I am man city I expected to automatically title contender.

For Liverpool like other peeps said we over archieved. CL spot was the aim.. even some say we need few more seasons or we would take 5-6th spot for this season.

Nevertheless not totally over but hard to see Man city to lose these games. They have the strength and experience

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QUOTE(kevafk @ May 6 2014, 05:20 AM)
Ask urself did u even think about liv going for PL title.. if I am man city I expected to automatically title contender.

For Liverpool like other peeps said we over archieved. CL spot was the aim.. even some say we need few more seasons or we would 5-6th spot for this season.

Nevertheless not totally over but hard to see Man city to lose these games. They have the strength and experience
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When I put it up, I thought 73 points were very much achieveable. Then I revised it to 84, and even so I thought it would be difficult.

It was heartbreaking, the manner we lost, but we've been through worse.
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Looking at the last few games,Hendo might have been the difference.
The energy in midfield looked missing with him out
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oh my. we have really made a mess of it. 3-0 up, i went to check smtg out for a moment and was surprised it was 3-2. everyone is absolutely gutted. yes. i know. i am too. such huge disappointment for the way the season has went. it sucks to be a loser. i know theres still hope. a little, but a hope nonetheless. but to be fair, in a positive way...this wasnt new. us conceding goals that is. had we won, people will talk only about our attack, n how time and again, the attack has bailed the team out.. i guess the rally cry for battle by stevie at the end of the city game did more harm than good. maybe the team got a lil carried away.

i did not post after the chelsea game, though i had lots in my mind, but i knew this thread would have gone crazy for the lost, altho i saw that coming. at least i saw that we would find it so very difficult to get a goal against chelsea cuz of how jose sets his teams out when he visits the so called "top" teams. an easy example was how the beat city when city was also blowing teams away in etihad.

to be fair, with such defensive displays throughout the season, we didnt deserve the championships. whole season long, i think alot of fans are disillusioned a little by the way we have won. most games, we get a fast goal n push on from there because other teams has to "chase" to get back into the game. hence leaving more and more spaces behind for our front trio to punish.

i am streaming the game thru skysports and watching carra there instead of leading our back four, i think having him around this season, would easily could have gotten the title considering the circumstances. both gary n jamie gives top top analysis. and our back four, has been poor. at 3-1, br should prolly throw in agger to play a back 5. so many things and IFS but its a painful night. for the previous game, i thought br was inexperienced prolly and a lil naive against jose. 1 point would has been good. the lost to chelsea prolly damaged the morale and confidence a little. and hence the poor last 15mins when we literally switched off. i like the idea of leaving a front 2 most of the time, but for next season, we need better stability at the back..

again, its heartbreaking, at least for me, that this is the closest we have come for sometime. and maybe, just maybe this is the closest we will get to the title for years to come again. i want to be positive, i really do, but next season, jose's chelsea will be better, city will spend again, manutd will spend, arsenal will get a top class striker. for us, my biggest fear is suarez leaving. i honestly think he will. he's 27. he doesnt have much time left. i know we are in the champions league. at the start of the season, nobody here and nobody back in liverpool, however diehard fan u are, u must be drunk if u think we could challenge for the title. getting in the champs league was always the aim. we have done so. in that, huge congrats to the team. remember, we had the 11 game streak. and to do 14 to win the title, it would have been fairytale. someone has to lose right, nobody wants to be 2nd.

we were easily the people's general choice for the title, for gerrard, for the english core in the team - the emergence of young english players, for suarez turning a new leaf after his troubles and wanting to leave. it stings so much.

p.s. tl;dr. the match against palace stings and sucks, but we move on, and we look ahead, at least we're getting european nights next season and lets hope it stays for the next decade and more.
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QUOTE(kevafk @ May 6 2014, 05:20 AM)
Ask urself did u even think about liv going for PL title.. if I am man city I expected to automatically title contender.

For Liverpool like other peeps said we over archieved. CL spot was the aim.. even some say we need few more seasons or we would take 5-6th spot for this season.

Nevertheless not totally over but hard to see Man city to lose these games. They have the strength and experience
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Have faith and BELIEVE

We still have a Chance

Anything can happen, the PRESSURE is on Citeh now and Villa will be more than happy to win it for us, ie provided we WIN over Newcastle on our final match.

We have already surpassed out target.

I felt sad for Gerrard, look at his body language today, such a sad and stressful week for him.

Wish him recover sooner.


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Cant believe challenging for title this season!!
From 7th to 2nd! (Ehem)
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QUOTE(led_zep_freak @ May 6 2014, 05:22 AM)
All you need is to look is at my signature.  biggrin.gif
When I put it up, I thought 73 points were very much achieveable. Then I revised it to 84, and even so I thought it would be difficult.

It was heartbreaking, the manner we lost, but we've been through worse.
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Lol yea, beginning of the season I thought we need a few more seasons to build up. We need to bring players in and out.. trim etc. Didnt expect CL came so early, actually it is crucial now summer signing and gunning for next season. I hope they dont flop in signing players.. it is very very important now.. BR have to go transfers early

Because we are out of CL for so long.. could be rusty and get knock out early

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Looking at the last few games,Hendo might have been the difference.
The energy in midfield looked missing with him out
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yes. another thing i want the note for hendo this season is that he brings more competitiveness in the squad. as in he keeps the other players on their toes, i have seen him shouting at lucas, skrtel and flanno in several matches this season, telling them what to do, calming players down etc. in other words, some leadership that is very lacking in this team. mentally hes a strong lad. we missed him badly. lucas hasnt been the same ever since he got injured. he seemed to lost some intensity that he had from the last 2 seasons. im not sure why and wonder is it because he lost his place in the starting 11.

we should never point at players and blame them. everyone makes poor decisions and mistakes. we can say gerrard lost it against chelsea. but what about the 2 points lost to westbrom because of kolo's mistake ? we have to give credit to palace though. a team who is doing so very well under pulis. they are already safe from relegation, nothing to play for really. but in their last home game, 3-0 down, they still kept going, fans giving them spirit and intensity.

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Even in spain the league so much drama haha.. suddenly everyone drop pts at the top..
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Because we are out of CL for so long.. could be rusty and get knock out early
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Do we need this really?
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yes. another thing i want the note for hendo this season is that he brings more competitiveness in the squad. as in he keeps the other players on their toes, i have seen him shouting at lucas, skrtel and flanno in several matches this season, telling them what to do, calming players down etc. in other words, some leadership that is very lacking in this team. mentally hes a strong lad. we missed him badly. lucas hasnt been the same ever since he got injured. he seemed to lost some intensity that he had from the last 2 seasons. im not sure why and wonder is it because he lost his place in the starting 11.

we should never point at players and blame them. everyone makes poor decisions and mistakes. we can say gerrard lost it against chelsea. but what about the 2 points lost to westbrom because of kolo's mistake ? we have to give credit to palace though. a team who is doing so very well under pulis. they are already safe from relegation, nothing to play for really. but in their last home game, 3-0 down, they still kept going, fans giving them spirit and intensity.
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The PL is a 38 game competition. Theres ups and downs. Thats the beauty of it.
Tonight i think BR made a decision to go for more goals. In hindsight a wrong one. Just like the Chelsea game.
He tried. We failed. But it was a decision. He will learn from it.
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Whats wrong? Read my whole post.. I said we could be rusty.. so summer signings is important to gun up next season
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And you are saying GEtting knocked out early! rclxub.gif

Do we need this sort of statement after tonight?
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at HOME against villa and west ham ? that is a little too much to ask for. had we won. i have some hope and believe that mancity might drop 2 points in one of those game. remember, this 2 clubs has managerial problems. lambert and sam. i know its not over till its over. for me. i believe it is over.

for me, i hope uruguay do badly in the wc, i dont wanna see suarez's stock rise up. madrid might come calling for real this time. yes, it has been a good season for us, whatever the results come sunday, a very good one indeed.. but last summer market, has been unlucky and poor for us.

sakho was our "marquee" signing, but for me, the jury is still out. he looks very shaky in possession and isnt top class yet defending, but hes young still. aspas has been a poor poor signing, alberto still young, but both of them, thats close to 15mil wasted. mignolet has been average for me. i still think hart cech and de gea are miles ahead of him. 7mil pounds for illori and hes loaned out. kolo has been good for a few games, and some bad mistakes and hes dropped. not sure why agger isnt a first choice for br esp after making him vice captain. he might prolly leave too if he doesnt get assurances over first team play. loaning cissokho was a huge mistake. i know we needed cover for jose for his injury. flanno has done superbly for what was asked of him, considering hes playing out of position and hes raw. moses didnt do enough for me too. i know hes frustrated at not getting playing time. all in all, i honestly thought br, his scouts and ian ayre has done very poorly in both the transfer market.
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Relaxe my reds ferns here...we must admit that we don't have a strong 22 squad...but to be place at 2nd in the league, it is a very good achievement this season...all liverpool's team members already tried their best...this is football, sometimes you play damn good and another you have a day off...let cheer up...hopefully the owners will allocate fund for br to spend for good players and this season experience will be a big help for us in the coming season...YNWA!!!
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We don't have squad depth, yes, but we do not surrender a 3-0 lead against Crystal Palace. No matter where we are in the league.

So no sugar coating this one. It's a really poor result.
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Losing a 3 goal lead. This is far worse than Gerrard's slip. Still proud of Liverpool but very disappointed at our defensive frailties. To think that the amount of money we invested in defense last summer, this is just appalling. Gerrard's battlecry suddenly become a far distant memory now.

City to lose one of their home games, perhaps it's just too much to ask for this time. Damn, just when I thought I will get to watch Gerrard lifting that coveted trophy....

So close. Yet so far.

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there goes the title..
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Focus too much on scoring goal feast until forgot 3 points is the basic......

The league table basically more the less being cast already.



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so sad to see suarez cry..feel bad for our them..i think BR need to overhaul our defence when this season's end...
its gonna be a long time before we have the chance to challenge the title again..next year man city, man utd, chelsea and arsenal gonna throw alot of money to buy alot of players..


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QUOTE(manx @ May 6 2014, 06:08 AM)
Well... we were robbed multiple times during the past transfer market windows. Its hard to take but those few extra £ million that we are unwilling to pay haunt us back. Anyway, past is past. Lets look forward and wait for the UCL Anthem to be played again in Anfield.
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Don't quite agree on this.
Many previous transfer players may be taken by other clubs, but some of them hardly feature on their respectively club, so basically tell us some story.

It may be blessed for Liv fail to sign those players as well.

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even if we win the title it still doesnt paper the crack we have at our defence.

just like ManUtd last year. they won because of Sir Alex. Their squad needs an overhaul but because of Sir Alex they were able to grind out results but then D.M took over everything just fell apart
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its really heart breaking to watch the squad after the draw. especially Suarez. hopefully it shows that his heart will stay with the club for at least the next few seasons and himself ACTUALLY STAYING tongue.gif

still can't quite find the words to describe it, but glad to see the lads giving it their all. defensive errors or not, they should still hold their head up high and walk on. YNWA
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QUOTE(cherroy @ May 6 2014, 08:02 AM)
Don't quite agree on this.
Many previous transfer players may be taken by other clubs, but some of them hardly feature on their respectively club, so basically tell us some story.

It may be blessed for Liv fail to sign those players as well.
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well i believe that they are not managed well in their respective clubs. just look at Sturridge. wasn't going well for him at Chelsea when Liverpool took him it, but now he's the 2nd top scorer in the league!

QUOTE(ParaOpticaL @ May 6 2014, 08:02 AM)
even if we win the title it still doesnt paper the crack we have at our defence.

just like ManUtd last year. they won because of Sir Alex. Their squad needs an overhaul but because of Sir Alex they were able to grind out results but then D.M took over everything just fell apart
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agreed. IINM Liverpool have the worse defense in the top 4 right now. lol. still, its definitely an area where the team still needs to focus on, while maintaining the attacking players with a few additional players during the transfer window.
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haih heart breaking. guess we prayed too hard for an instanbul and got a reverse one instead. really heart breaking. and the worst part is, all our pain is self inflicted
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The image of Suarez crying really broke my heart.

Player of the Year and FWP Player of the year. The best player in the BPL.

It's difficult to be happy when you've played out of your skin but the defense brings down the team.

I really feel for Suarez and I hope he doesn't feel that Liverpool is a burden to him.


BUT

our defense has been the boon of our title push. 49 goals conceded. That's 1.3 goals conceded per game. The most out of the top 5 and more than United and Palace.

People like to troll... But people forget that we weren't given a glimmer of chance to fight for the title. We were placed in a 4th place battle alongside Everton, Arsenal and Spurs. And look at where we are now, guaranteed top 3. Look at our squad, we're a small squad in size and value. We have youngsters in Flano and Sterling. Our bench doesnt provide the cover we truly need.

The rebuilding process is an ongoing process and I don't see anyone else mroe fitting to do it than Rodgers.

Next season, we go again.


On the match... just watched the goals we conceded... wow... what the hell happened to our defense? it just... self-destruct.... doh.gif mad.gif
First 2 goals Johnson was horrible.. please for the love of football, let him go.

BTW, TS, it's 3-3 lo.. not 2-2... blush.gif
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dammit. "for the love of football" brightens up the gloomy result LOL
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WALK ON.........

With YER HEADS HELD HIGH
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QUOTE(prophetjul @ May 6 2014, 08:28 AM)
WALK ON......... 

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I guess the boss says it the best

http://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/latest-news/162441-rodgers-reflects-on-disappointing-night

"But I think we got carried away; thought we could maybe get one or two more and lost the defensive structure to our game. To concede the three goals at the end was hugely disappointing, having worked so hard to get 3-0 up.

"But in those last 12 minutes, we just didn't defend with any sort of cohesion and ended up conceding really poor goals.

"Villa will go and make it difficult, I'm sure, like they have done against the top-four teams this season. But I think everyone will look at Manchester City's squad and look at them as a team that can win the games and get the job done."

"We've made great strides this year. But certainly while I'm here, I'm here to fight to win titles. I'll be relentless in my quest for it - that's why I came. This season has given us great hope. We're trying to build something that is sustainable.


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QUOTE(reehdus @ May 6 2014, 08:15 AM)
haih heart breaking. guess we prayed too hard for an instanbul and got a reverse one instead. really heart breaking. and the worst part is, all our pain is self inflicted
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https://twitter.com/glen_johnson/status/463437379525939200

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Dropping 2 points after leading 3 goals, is really hard. It is like getting placed on the top and being brought down to earth again. I am not sure if I can even imagine/understand how much distraught that Gerrard and Suarez would be...

Anyway, rain or shine, we ain't those lalang fans, we never walk alone and this season is still one of the leagues with most 'finales' for us. YNWA
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woke up this morning and go right to the result and see a draw and I thought 'ok'... then I learned how the game went and I thought 'next season or 14th floor...'

cheers!

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QUOTE(muzrix @ May 6 2014, 09:12 AM)
woke up this morning and go right to the result and see a draw and I thought 'ok'... then I learned how the game went and I thought 'next season or 14th floor...'

cheers!

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sad sad day indeed....
sad to say that the dream is over. it's been a joy ride nevertheless. it wasn't meant to be and looking forward to next season and CL. YNWA!
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reading the comments by Carra, its obvious that he's hurting as well. "no sympathy"? please.
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We already overachieved guys. Nobody expected us to be here when the season started. Looking at our squad, it's unthinkable we would be above Arsenal and Chelsea at this point.

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It felt like a horrific nightmare. I really hope i'm still in my sleep.

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Makes me wonder what the team heard during Gerrard's huddle?

"This is gonna f***ing slip up now!"
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Well....looks like we lost it and truly ours to lose. A good fight...a good run...hope we can keep it up next season with champions league involved. YNWA.
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QUOTE(reehdus @ May 6 2014, 09:21 AM)
Makes me wonder what the team heard during Gerrard's huddle?

"This is gonna f***ing slip up now!"
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Do we really need this now?
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And I suppose you're gonna say that we can still win it right? Villa and West Ham are gonna do us a favour and do what virtually nobody has done at the Etihad? Or we're gonna score 15 past Newcastle? Get real man. It was ours to win and we slipped up. We couldn't deal with the pressure. Add to that the uncertainty of next year and what happens next?
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TP were spot on with his subs while BR made the wrong decision.

I believe everyone is blaming Johnson but for me he was tired and should have sub out long ago. Its not easy to play attack and defence for a full 90mins.

At the start of the game he was the one on the right side who is running to empty space where he almost scored twice where our striker were all tightly marked.




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QUOTE(reehdus @ May 6 2014, 09:36 AM)
And I suppose you're gonna say that we can still win it right? Villa and West Ham are gonna do us a favour and do what virtually nobody has done at the Etihad? Or we're gonna score 15 past Newcastle? Get real man. It was ours to win and we slipped up. We couldn't deal with the pressure. Add to that the uncertainty of next year and what happens next?
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Gives you, a 'fan' the right to slag the captain?

Get real. One so called 'fan' less aint gonna kill the club

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Gives you, a 'fan' the right to slag the captain?   

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Erm, I asked what the team heard during the huddle, not what Gerrard said. We're all fans here like it or not, and if Gerrard messed up (which I'm sorry if you haven't noticed, is not what I said), then he is not exempt from criticism, same as everyone else, regardless of his contributions.

I know this is an emotional time and we are hurting, but please refrain from cannabilizing your own fans. Everyone reacts differently, so keep that in mind.

Edit: and you asked if we really need this now? we need a friggin miracle that's what we need.

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MC just need to lose 1 game out of 2. Possible to happen..
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Erm, I asked what the team heard during the huddle, not what Gerrard said. We're all fans here like it or not, and if Gerrard messed up (which I'm sorry if you haven't noticed, is not what I said), then he is not exempt from criticism, same as everyone else, regardless of his contributions.

I know this is an emotional time and we are hurting, but please refrain from cannabilizing your own fans. Everyone reacts differently, so keep that in mind.
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Makes me wonder what the team heard during Gerrard's huddle?

"This is gonna f***ing slip up now!"



Likewise, refrain from slagging the captain with sarcasm since we are ALL hurting.
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QUOTE(reehdus @ May 6 2014, 09:53 AM)
Erm, I asked what the team heard during the huddle, not what Gerrard said. We're all fans here like it or not, and if Gerrard messed up (which I'm sorry if you haven't noticed, is not what I said), then he is not exempt from criticism, same as everyone else, regardless of his contributions.

I know this is an emotional time and we are hurting, but please refrain from cannabilizing your own fans. Everyone reacts differently, so keep that in mind.

Edit: and you asked if we really need this now? we need a friggin miracle that's what we need.
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we need a miracle not your sarcastic slagging. Right?
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Guys let me put this into perspective. Before the CP game based on reputation on paper we were already out of the title race. After the game we are out even further. Nothing much changed
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The problem is BR alone. Leading 3 -0 away from home you should have parked the damn bus with 10 minutes to go. Instead, he brought Moses in! Should have brought Agger / Kolo to beef up the defence with 5 def at the back. I hope he learn from this match and never repeat the same mistake. I hope you all agree with me on this.

Besides I feel that we urgently need to find better RB and LB. Johnson is not the same old Johnson we used to see. Flano is a bit slow IMO.

What we can do now is to hope that MC to lose 1 match to stand any chance. I hope they will slip up.
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QUOTE(reehdus @ May 6 2014, 09:53 AM)
Erm, I asked what the team heard during the huddle, not what Gerrard said. We're all fans here like it or not, and if Gerrard messed up (which I'm sorry if you haven't noticed, is not what I said), then he is not exempt from criticism, same as everyone else, regardless of his contributions.

I know this is an emotional time and we are hurting, but please refrain from cannabilizing your own fans. Everyone reacts differently, so keep that in mind.

Edit: and you asked if we really need this now? we need a friggin miracle that's what we need.
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Agree that no one is exempted from criticism but the huddle meant to remind the lads between themselves that there are more games to play for, not for showboating or folks to laugh at him when he falls. Other classless/mindless trolls from other clubs, I got no comment, but come on, lets us not joke bout it when others certainly did not heard "This is gonna f***ing slip up now!" from him...
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Instead of hoping city to lose, we might be not able to win the game against Newcastle now.....I don't know how the player can pick themselves up again after these 2 games slipped....Such a heartbreak

It's time to wake up....back to reality & look forward to next season CL.....We're not going to do a happy ending fairytale afterall.....


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QUOTE(prophetjul @ May 6 2014, 09:56 AM)
we need a miracle not your sarcastic slagging.  Right?
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It's a joke. Not a sarcastic post by some rival fan. Read into it what you will.
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QUOTE(NismoConcept @ May 6 2014, 09:57 AM)
The problem is BR alone. Leading 3 -0 away from home you should have parked the damn bus with 10 minutes to go. Instead, he brought Moses in! Should have brought Agger / Kolo to beef up the defence with 5 def at the back. I hope he learn from this match and never repeat the same mistake. I hope you all agree with me on this.

Besides I feel that we urgently need to find better RB and LB. Johnson is not the same old Johnson we used to see. Flano is a bit slow IMO.

What we can do now is to hope that MC to lose 1 match to stand any chance. I hope they will slip up.
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Because he wanted to score 6 goals, so that able to win by GD..
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QUOTE(farisq @ May 6 2014, 10:57 AM)
Guys let me put this into perspective. Before the CP game based on reputation on paper we were already out of the title race. After the game we are out even further. Nothing much changed
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As long as there is hope, I'll never gv up man. That's why I stayed up whole night to watch the match.
I always remember Istanbul 2005 man. Anything can happen to MC's last 2 games, you'll never knw.
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QUOTE(NismoConcept @ May 6 2014, 09:57 AM)
The problem is BR alone. Leading 3 -0 away from home you should have parked the damn bus with 10 minutes to go. Instead, he brought Moses in! Should have brought Agger / Kolo to beef up the defence with 5 def at the back. I hope he learn from this match and never repeat the same mistake. I hope you all agree with me
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Absolutely no reason to disagree. This is 2014, cannot be so rigid to play beautiful football all the time. Must get dirty if situation requires it
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QUOTE(reehdus @ May 6 2014, 09:59 AM)
It's a joke. Not a sarcastic post by some rival fan. Read into it what you will.
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Joke of sarcasm from a'fan'?

from a rival fan I can brain. BUT from a 'fan'?
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QUOTE(socratesman @ May 6 2014, 11:01 AM)
Absolutely no reason to disagree. This is 2014, cannot be so rigid to play beautiful football all the time. Must get dirty if situation requires it
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Yes, hate it or not I think Chelsea was pretty smart to park their blardy bus at Anfield. Smart manager will come out with dirty tactics for 3 points.
I really hope BR will be able to see this and win dirty if necessary from next season onwards.
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QUOTE(ik3da @ May 6 2014, 09:58 AM)
Agree that no one is exempted from criticism but the huddle meant to remind the lads between themselves that there are more games to play for, not for showboating or folks to laugh at him when he falls. Other classless/mindless trolls from other clubs, I got no comment, but come on, lets us not joke bout it when others certainly did not heard "This is gonna f***ing slip up now!" from him...
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Hey I agree, I'm not criticizing what he said. But I question the resolve of the team. I may joke about it, but ultimately did they really hear what he said? If they did then why did they play the way they did? We shouldn't need the whole team behind the ball to prevent CP from scoring.
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QUOTE(NismoConcept @ May 6 2014, 09:57 AM)
The problem is BR alone. Leading 3 -0 away from home you should have parked the damn bus with 10 minutes to go. Instead, he brought Moses in! Should have brought Agger / Kolo to beef up the defence with 5 def at the back. I hope he learn from this match and never repeat the same mistake. I hope you all agree with me on this.

Besides I feel that we urgently need to find better RB and LB. Johnson is not the same old Johnson we used to see. Flano is a bit slow IMO.

What we can do now is to hope that MC to lose 1 match to stand any chance. I hope they will slip up.
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i beg to differ on parking the bus. i believe he made it clear that parking the bus is not his style. given the opportunity, wouldn't have you go for glory and chase the goal difference which is the clear obstacle at that moment? i believe that the goals conceded are due to fatigue as well as slight incompetence form defenders. attacking wise, we are able to match any top teams in the league this season but i cant say the same for our defense.

in all fairness, i dont think they're that bad. i believe that given proper defensive substitutes, they'll do just fine biggrin.gif

onwards, WALK ON! flex.gif
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i guess the team and manager got carried away with the GD thing and simply forget 3 points is the key here. Well what to blame when it is so encouraging to go for it when you are 3-0 up at 50+ minutes?

Maybe should have switch around at 1-3 but the atmosphere and momentum simply changes from there onwards. Give credit to CP, great subs made by Pulis. If we end up like 6-0 no one would complaint aite? sadly if and but doesn't work so let's see what MC can do wink.gif
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QUOTE(wadefak @ May 6 2014, 10:05 AM)
i beg to differ on parking the bus. i believe he made it clear that parking the bus is not his style. given the opportunity, wouldn't have you go for glory and chase the goal difference which is the clear obstacle at that moment? i believe that the goals conceded are due to fatigue as well as slight incompetence form defenders. attacking wise, we are able to match any top teams in the league this season but i cant say the same for our defense.

in all fairness, i dont think they're that bad. i believe that given proper defensive substitutes, they'll do just fine biggrin.gif

onwards, WALK ON! flex.gif
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if i were BR, i will do the same, go for the broke... get as many goal as we want and put pressure on MC to win.
even if we win 3-0. it is not good enough to win the title.
the crumble in the last min is all down to the team failing to concentrate and hold their nerve.
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Joke of sarcasm from a'fan'?

from a rival fan I can brain. BUT from a 'fan'?
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did you not question the resolve of the team? joking or not, did they hear what Gerrard said? Against Chelsea there might have been extenuating circumstances. But to throw away a 3-goal lead? Did they hear what he said?? That's what I'm saying. Sorry if I rubbed you the wrong way but I think as a 'fan' or a FAN we all have reason to question a performance like this.


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QUOTE(reehdus @ May 6 2014, 10:08 AM)
did you not question the resolve of the team? joking or not, did they hear what Gerrard said? Against Chelsea there might have been extenuating circumstances. But to throw away a 3-goal lead? Did they hear what he said?? That's what I'm saying. Sorry if I rubbed you the wrong way but I think as a 'fan' or a FAN we all have reason to question a performance like this.
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I do question. But I do NOT slag the captain with uncalled for sarcasm.
You said it yourself: Everyone's hurting. Including the players.

Why do you as a fan wanna rub it in? Why?
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QUOTE(reehdus @ May 6 2014, 10:04 AM)
Hey I agree, I'm not criticizing what he said. But I question the resolve of the team. I may joke about it, but ultimately did they really hear what he said? If they did then why did they play the way they did? We shouldn't need the whole team behind the ball to prevent CP from scoring.
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Aye, I get what you mean but it is probably just the way that you put your sentence sounded more like you are mocking the lads + Gerrard over what was said during the huddle. Oh well, lets not kill one another over this, I still look forward in seeing how we do in the final game and summer. We really need more depth on the bench.
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I think BR was good to his word, playing gung-Ho style in trying to achieve the goals deficit should we match mCity in points. This is exactly how gerrard would love to play it. All out, Roy of rovers style.

Naive probably, but it was such a ride for a team in trying to just nick a spot in CL at the start of our season

Mathematically we can still 'win' if mCity stumbles in the next 2 matches. But realistically to expect their high salaried Grade A & A- players to have a melt down in 2 consecutive games in hand is like...hoping the sun doesn't shine in 2 days.

Not bitter, we didn't "lose" the title chase with gerrards slip at anfield, the title challenge is a long haul task, we werent "fully equipped" in terms of overall personnel (good first team players but atrocious back up squad)

The good thing is we are still a younger squad than of the other top teams. This may augur well for the future.

As I said, it's a learning experience for Rodgers and the players. I hope things will be of certain clarity for gerrard's (playing) future. I have my sentiments (spot) for him.

But I think it's probably right if Rodgers think/planned ahead with post-Steven (cap fantastic) Gerrard in mind.

I don't know. Part of me wish another Liverpool 'Istanbul turnover', a miracle to to this seasons campaign with that elusive trophy.

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I dont care what happens, as long as we off load Johnson.
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LOL

well if u ask me, not just yet. his experience with the squad is still needed, at least until we have a reliable substitute.
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I dont care what happens, as long as we off load Johnson.
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if he is ok on 50k or less a week, I keep him as backup.
Next year we gonna see many more matches.
A familiar player is easier.
You don't want a wholesale clearout.
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I do question. But I do NOT slag the captain with uncalled for sarcasm.
You said it yourself: Everyone's hurting. Including the players.

Why do you as a fan wanna rub it in?  Why?
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Sigh, I did not slag the captain. I talked about the team as a whole. I have never singled anyone out, Johnson, Allen, Toure etc. I wouldn't shy away from it if I think a player deserved to be slagged but I think no one individual is responsible for our plight right now. The same way I wasn't slagging Gerrard. I brought it up as a question of the team's response to his challenge. Not slagging his action. No matter how it looked, it's not an individual attack.

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Easy now, guys. No need to take shots at each other. Yes, it hurts but we should be proud with how the team has performed this season. From 7th last season to title contenders this season.
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The problem is BR alone. Leading 3 -0 away from home you should have parked the damn bus with 10 minutes to go. Instead, he brought Moses in! Should have brought Agger / Kolo to beef up the defence with 5 def at the back. I hope he learn from this match and never repeat the same mistake. I hope you all agree with me on this.

Besides I feel that we urgently need to find better RB and LB. Johnson is not the same old Johnson we used to see. Flano is a bit slow IMO.

What we can do now is to hope that MC to lose 1 match to stand any chance. I hope they will slip up.
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Seriously, I think the mistake came from Coutinho's sub.

1. His passing was poor coming, not his usual self.
2. He did not track back as what Sterling would have done

Moses seems more effective than Coutinho, at least he tracked back and put pressure on the ball.

Finding the scapegoat in Moses just because he has not been performing in other games and leave nothing on Coutinho is not a fair judgement.

I'm a big fan of Lucas but he was pissed poor last night as well. Seems like he wasn't in the same wavelength with the rest of the guys.

On the bright side, we were 30 odd points behind last season and only scored 40 odd goals this time last year. It has been a good fight, and hope the players and managers learn from this. The fight is not over yet though, anything can still happen to City. Unlikely but possible, just like who would've thought that we will concede 3 in the final 10 mins?
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This morning watched the match and found very fishy after Liverpool were 3 -0 up...... even the bookmakers changed the rate after that, something very unusual has happened the last 2 matches!
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There is nothing hurt at all nor any sympathy.

If you can slice open a bus, not good enough for title
If you can't win after leading 3-0, not good enough.
The team simply lack something crucial and class, and nerve to win the title.

Liv is at over-geared to achieve current position, while Mancity is at normal gear.

A 2nd place finish, with just 2 points below the champion is very good achievement.

Mancity deserve to be champion as they are consistent, always win comfortably as compared almost every match was nail biting for Liv.
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Congratulations to Manchester City
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QUOTE(NismoConcept @ May 6 2014, 10:57 AM)
The problem is BR alone. Leading 3 -0 away from home you should have parked the damn bus with 10 minutes to go. Instead, he brought Moses in! Should have brought Agger / Kolo to beef up the defence with 5 def at the back. I hope he learn from this match and never repeat the same mistake. I hope you all agree with me on this.

Besides I feel that we urgently need to find better RB and LB. Johnson is not the same old Johnson we used to see. Flano is a bit slow IMO.

What we can do now is to hope that MC to lose 1 match to stand any chance. I hope they will slip up.
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My observation is that that's not Rodgers style. Last season he wanted to be dominant in our possessions and out-posses our opponents statistically. And of course to win the game too.

This season we outscored almost every other team, 2 of our players top scorers in the charts. We have Suarez too obtaining the best assist in the league.

It's the play that we employ. We venture high into opponents half with intensity and overwhelming blitzerg, that leave our opponents in a daze. Rogers needs to plan to play against slow stubborn teams (bus parking ole' jose tactics). Patience in our play is missing.

Rodgers won't drop his believe (gung-ho) and then to play plan B. That's not Rodgers style

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after a long run 37 matches, Liverpool is top of the league, back to Champions League, anything beyond that is really big bonus.. me as a fan couldnt ask for more, thank you the teams restored the faith, the fighting spirit that used to have, thank you kops and fans, you'll never walk alone.
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I think it was fine that Rodgers went for broke. Seriously, I really think he was justified in trying to up the goal difference. Sure, that didn't show respect to Palace, but our defense should've been able to cope.
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QUOTE(wadefak @ May 6 2014, 10:13 AM)
LOL

well if u ask me, not just yet. his experience with the squad is still needed, at least until we have a reliable substitute.
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if he is ok on 50k or less a week, I keep him as backup.
Next year we gonna see many more matches.
A familiar player is easier.
You don't want a wholesale clearout.
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Based on Wiki, he's around 100++k a week....

For a has-been shitty defender? uuughhh...

His experience is worn out...

But like you said, docked to 50k or below... I'd keep him, otherwise... DAS BOOT!
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QUOTE(kenlimfornication @ May 6 2014, 10:29 AM)
Seriously, I think the mistake came from Coutinho's sub.

1. His passing was poor coming, not his usual self.
2. He did not track back as what Sterling would have done

Moses seems more effective than Coutinho, at least he tracked back and put pressure on the ball.

Finding the scapegoat in Moses just because he has not been performing in other games and leave nothing on Coutinho is not a fair judgement.

I'm a big fan of Lucas but he was pissed poor last night as well. Seems like he wasn't in the same wavelength with the rest of the guys.

On the bright side, we were 30 odd points behind last season and only scored 40 odd goals this time last year. It has been a good fight, and hope the players and managers learn from this. The fight is not over yet though, anything can still happen to City. Unlikely but possible, just like who would've thought that we will concede 3 in the final 10 mins?
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I would agree on BR made a mess on the sub.
Too focus on goal feast.

When 3-1 with 20~30 mins to go, it is already sending warning signal.
With not much time left, almost impossible to have goal feast again, tighten the midfield, control the match to get 3 points, and if can score, bonus, if can't, just get 3 points.

But still applaud the team spirit to go for it (goal feast), despite an impossible task.

Lucas no longer the same player after return from injury.



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My observation is that that's not Rodgers style. Last season he wanted to be dominant in our possessions and out-posses our opponents statistically. And of course to win the game too.

This season we outscored almost every other team, 2 of our players top scorers in the charts. We have Suarez too obtaining the best assist in the league.

It's the play that we employ. We venture high into opponents half with intensity and overwhelming blitzerg, that leave our opponents in a daze. Rogers needs to plan to play against slow stubborn teams (bus parking ole' jose tactics). Patience in our play is missing.

Rodgers won't drop his believe (gung-ho) and then to play plan B.  That's not Rodgers style
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Even Skrtel is the top defender scorer. thumbup.gif

Early season, Liv did park the bus and win 1-0.
Against Norwich, when 3-2, also put 5 defenders on later stage of the match.

Last season, BR concentrated a lot of possession, but didn't get good result.
This year, possession is not priority, but quick passes/pressing, running into space, quick counter attack, score plenty of goals.

Style did change.





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better luck next year. what a great season LFc had.
last night BR got it wrong after the 3 nil lead.
the 1st CP goal they were mauling CP penalty box like desprately needed for a goal. its already 3-0 For gods sake. doh.gif doh.gif

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i beg to differ on parking the bus. i believe he made it clear that parking the bus is not his style. given the opportunity, wouldn't have you go for glory and chase the goal difference which is the clear obstacle at that moment? i believe that the goals conceded are due to fatigue as well as slight incompetence form defenders. attacking wise, we are able to match any top teams in the league this season but i cant say the same for our defense.

in all fairness, i dont think they're that bad. i believe that given proper defensive substitutes, they'll do just fine biggrin.gif

onwards, WALK ON! flex.gif
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Yes, parking the bus is not his style and bcoz of not his style it caused us 3 points. vmad.gif
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QUOTE(ralfvi @ May 6 2014, 10:50 AM)
better luck next year. what a great season LFc had.
last night BR got it wrong after the 3 nil lead.
the 1st CP goal they were mauling CP penalty box like desprately needed for a goal. its already 3-0 For gods sake. doh.gif  doh.gif
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obviously he is looking at MC superiority on GD.

yes now we drop the game everyone can say we lost 2 points but seriously 3-0 up in 50+ mins and you know GD will be key to the championship, would you not go for it?
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Even Skrtel is the top defender scorer.  thumbup.gif

Early season, Liv did park the bus and win 1-0.
Against Norwich, when 3-2, also put 5 defenders on later stage of the match.

Last season, BR concentrated a lot of possession, but didn't get good result.
This year, possession is not priority, but quick passes/pressing, running into space, quick counter attack, score plenty of goals.

Style did change.
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Ok, tongue.gif BR philosophy of the game didn't change.

I don't quite remember we ever sent a bus driver out there, perhaps maybe we got stuck in the mud sweat.gif
Still think it's not Rodgers style, perhaps Jose's, yes. Not I recall of Rodgers whistling.gif

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QUOTE(bearbear @ May 6 2014, 10:53 AM)
obviously he is looking at MC superiority on GD.

yes now we drop the game everyone can say we lost 2 points but seriously 3-0 up in 50+ mins and you know GD will be key to the championship, would you not go for it?
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Definitely would have..but after conceding the first goal to Palace I would have slowed the game right down. Keep the ball. Preserve the lead. It was naive football the team played in the last 15 mins.
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QUOTE(bearbear @ May 6 2014, 10:53 AM)
obviously he is looking at MC superiority on GD.

yes now we drop the game everyone can say we lost 2 points but seriously 3-0 up in 50+ mins and you know GD will be key to the championship, would you not go for it?
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YES it would be good but not in that fashion.
chelsea did it on the counter and CP were prepared to do the same.
and now its mancity tittle to loose.




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"You can't feel sorry for Liverpool in this situation because the standard of their defending is not acceptable," stated Carragher

"Even when they have been winning games, it's been 4-3, it's 6-3, it's 3-2 and we always felt that their defence would come back and haunt them with the goals they conceded. This was the night when that back four and the goals they conceded as a team defensively came back to haunt them.

"The strikers normally get them out of jail and at 3-2, Sturridge and Suarez nearly got them out of jail again, but you can't keep conceding goals at this level and expect to win big trophies.

http://www.espnfc.com/news/story/_/id/1810...-palace?cc=4716

My sentiments exactly...

Altho he should have stated Johnson has been shit.
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QUOTE(8sg9ft @ May 6 2014, 10:57 AM)
Definitely would have..but after conceding the first goal to Palace I would have slowed the game right down. Keep the ball. Preserve the lead. It was naive football the team played in the last 15 mins.
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this. BR should have seen it coming. perhaps he's forgotten that our defenders put on a very nerve wrecking show tongue.gif
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QUOTE(bearbear @ May 6 2014, 10:53 AM)
obviously he is looking at MC superiority on GD.

yes now we drop the game everyone can say we lost 2 points but seriously 3-0 up in 50+ mins and you know GD will be key to the championship, would you not go for it?
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Yes! It is just a gamble decision by him.. It's either you succeed or failed. He would have regret for not making this decision if at the end of the season we lost to MC by small margin of GD. To put the driving seat back to our favour when there's opportunity to do that, even with a very slight chance. This is what he want to accomplished.
Very ambitious, I suppok!! rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(Mikeshashimi @ May 6 2014, 11:01 AM)
"You can't feel sorry for Liverpool in this situation because the standard of their defending is not acceptable," stated Carragher

"Even when they have been winning games, it's been 4-3, it's 6-3, it's 3-2 and we always felt that their defence would come back and haunt them with the goals they conceded. This was the night when that back four and the goals they conceded as a team defensively came back to haunt them.

"The strikers normally get them out of jail and at 3-2, Sturridge and Suarez nearly got them out of jail again, but you can't keep conceding goals at this level and expect to win big trophies.

http://www.espnfc.com/news/story/_/id/1810...-palace?cc=4716

My sentiments exactly...

Altho he should have stated Johnson has been shit.
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still having a go at Glen i see? LOL. chill. he did gave it his best right before they conceded the goals. perhaps he's tired? i can see from that interview that Carra was really frustrated with Liverpool. he knows that the team still can go all the way. to me its positive criticism because the interview clearly points out where Liverpool needs to improve. WALK ON! flex.gif

QUOTE(Patt_Hup @ May 6 2014, 11:04 AM)
Yes! It is just a gamble decision by him.. It's either you succeed or failed. He would have regret for not making this decision if at the end of the season we lost to MC by small margin of GD. To put the driving seat back to our favour when there's opportunity to do that, even with a very slight chance. This is what he want to accomplished.
Very ambitious, I suppok!!  rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(wadefak @ May 6 2014, 11:10 AM)
still having a go at Glen i see? LOL. chill. he did gave it his best right before they conceded the goals. perhaps he's tired? i can see from that interview that Carra was really frustrated with Liverpool. he knows that the team still can go all the way. to me its positive criticism because the interview clearly points out where Liverpool needs to improve. WALK ON! flex.gif
well said rclxms.gif
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I just can't accept someone lavishing at 100 thousand pounds a week can't even defend properly...

FFS... 100k a week into the bank and he plays like rubbish...

Yes, the whole defense was bad but I've always questioned Glenn's defensive usability.
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QUOTE(Mikeshashimi @ May 6 2014, 11:11 AM)
I just can't accept someone lavishing at 100 thousand pounds a week can't even defend properly...

FFS... 100k a week into the bank and he plays like rubbish...

Yes, the whole defense was bad but I've always questioned Glenn's defensive usability.
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Don't we all question that? laugh.gif

He's been really poor the past 2 seasons in general. Never got back the form he had when he first joined us. Time for him to move on.
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QUOTE(Mikeshashimi @ May 6 2014, 11:11 AM)
I just can't accept someone lavishing at 100 thousand pounds a week can't even defend properly...

FFS... 100k a week into the bank and he plays like rubbish...

Yes, the whole defense was bad but I've always questioned Glenn's defensive usability.
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He gets tired after all as he is just a human. Did you see how he played in first half? Running up and down finding space to break down and space for others to pass.

He was the most dangerous player in the attacking side for the first 20mins when our striker is being marked tightly. I think the whole team should take the blame not just one player. sweat.gif
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QUOTE(8sg9ft @ May 6 2014, 11:14 AM)
Don't we all question that? laugh.gif

He's been really poor the past 2 seasons in general. Never got back the form he had when he first joined us. Time for him to move on.
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QUOTE(melt @ May 6 2014, 11:16 AM)
He gets tired after all as he is just a human. Did you see how he played in first half? Running up and down finding space to break down and space for others to pass.

He was the most dangerous player in the attacking side for the first 20mins when our striker is being marked tightly. I think the whole team should take the blame not just one player.  sweat.gif
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Whole team? hardly so... how could you blame say.. Suarez for the 3 conceded goals?

I always curse when Johnson is playing because he doesnt provide enough cover.

I get tired too.. of his shit. lol.. biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(Mikeshashimi @ May 6 2014, 11:18 AM)
Whole team? hardly so... how could you blame say.. Suarez for the 3 conceded goals?

I always curse when Johnson is playing because he doesnt provide enough cover.

I get tired too.. of his shit. lol..  biggrin.gif
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They played as a team not an individual. Where is the team spirit? whistling.gif

If I want to blame anyone I can always come out a reason.

Suarez - losing the ball and makes other tired for chasing back

you see what I did there laugh.gif
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QUOTE(melt @ May 6 2014, 11:26 AM)
They played as a team not an individual. Where is the team spirit?  whistling.gif

If I want to blame anyone I can always come out a reason.

Suarez - losing the ball and makes other tired for chasing back

you see what I did there  laugh.gif
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Suarez has done more than enough for the team.

Can't even whisper the same for Johnson.

Sorry, I don't like single-ing out players.... but Johnson is just not good enough anymore.
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QUOTE(Mikeshashimi @ May 6 2014, 12:18 PM)
Whole team? hardly so... how could you blame say.. Suarez for the 3 conceded goals?

I always curse when Johnson is playing because he doesnt provide enough cover.

I get tired too.. of his shit. lol..  biggrin.gif
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i didn't see the game

but i will say this, the whole team will have to take it from the chin

Collectively we have set out to score as many goals as possible. this is evident. rodgers hinted this prior to our game against crystal palace. We didn't give a shit of how CP might respond. Judging from the made mention of johnson's ventures upfield, it only established what i thought.

Go out & attack & score as many goals. Rodgers believed we can do it. we did go 3-0. To believe we can do it with intensity for 90minutes is well. rodgers believed we can. I think the team tried. It showed from the photos (post game of suarez etc)

I won't single out glen. I think our squad did their best (at our standard of bench). Look, mCity showed how to maintain speed of the game. (we need to learn this), changing tempo/gears. Overall they had a wee bit more consistency in the season. We had composure in some games, time we have a better overall bench to support our first 11.

I hope, i pray suarez will not be tempted by galactico (i'm pretty sure they, Rmadrid will come now when last season they had sights for bale)

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well, Suarez actually have done so much for the team and got the awards to back his performance this season. question is, is he going to feel that the team is weighing him down. its very clear after the match that he was really sad not to win it sad.gif
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QUOTE(koolspyda @ May 6 2014, 11:29 AM)
i didn't see the game

but i will say this, the whole team will have to take it from the chin

Collectively we have set out to score as many goals as possible. this is evident. rodgers hinted this prior to our game against crystal palace. We didn't give a shit of how CP might respond. Judging form the made mentioned of johnson's ventures upfield, it only established what i thought.

Go out & attack & score as many goals. Rodgers believed we can do it. we did go 3-0. To believe we can do it with intensity for 90minutes is well. rodgers believed we can. I think the team tried. It showed from the photos (post game of suarez etc)

I won't single out glen. I think our squad did their best (at our standard of bench). Look, mCity showed how to maintain speed of the game. (we need to learn this), changing tempo/gears. Overall they had a wee bit more consistency in the season. We had composure in some games, time we have a better overall bench to support our first 11.

I hope, i pray suarez will not be tempted by galactico (i'm pretty sure they, Rmadrid will come now when last season they had sights for bale)
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you'd think after conceding 2 the defense would buck up.. but no.

Let down by shoddy Defending...

And as Carra said, the strikers have been bailing out the defense again and again.

I'd take a 3-0 win over a 6-3 win any day.
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QUOTE(Mikeshashimi @ May 6 2014, 11:28 AM)
Suarez has done more than enough for the team.

Can't even whisper the same for Johnson.

Sorry, I don't like single-ing out players.... but Johnson is just not good enough anymore.
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I m tired of convincing you laugh.gif but I just dont think we should just solely blame Johnson.

Like I say before they played as a team all player are responsible for the lost that night.

Its glad to see Suarez not being selfish around the first 20mins but after that he was gone just like Sturridge. Both striker sometimes worrying me when they dont pass it to each other in the final third. They were all looking for Steerling when the chances of him passing the ball back is higher than the other (Suarez/Sturridge).

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As i said before, we leak the goal due to DM doesnt give enough cover to defender/fullback when they goes into opponent half. Gerrard rarely chase opponent. His age already reached the limit. He better play as AM midfielder because his strength is at attacking part.defensive part poor.
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We can only speculate that with Hendo, we would have had a much much better chance.
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obviously he is looking at MC superiority on GD.

yes now we drop the game everyone can say we lost 2 points but seriously 3-0 up in 50+ mins and you know GD will be key to the championship, would you not go for it?
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It is good to see the team going for goal feast when 3-0 after 50+ mins.

But with less that 20+ mins left and conceded a goal, at 3-1, then need to be alert the danger losing the lead.
So when conceded, 3-1, priority should be protect the 3 points.

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Right to go for goal feast when 3-0
But not right to go for it, when 3-1, when just about 10 mins left in normal time.
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QUOTE(shamsul_LP @ May 6 2014, 11:36 AM)
As i said before, we leak the goal due to DM doesnt give enough cover to defender/fullback when they goes into opponent half. Gerrard rarely chase opponent. His age already reached the limit. He better play as AM midfielder because his strength is at attacking part.defensive part poor.
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i think he's best suited in his natural spot, he can take his time and orchestrate the attack from the back while covering the defenders. with him playing as AM, he's gonna retire early because he'll be all over the pitch. besides, we have Sterling,Couts and Allen for that now.

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QUOTE(Mikeshashimi @ May 6 2014, 12:31 PM)
you'd think after conceding 2 the defense would buck up.. but no.

Let down by shoddy Defending...

And as Carra said, the strikers have been bailing out the defense again and again.

I'd take a 3-0 win over a 6-3 win any day.
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Attack as a team, defend as a team.

i suspect our defensive midfielders were able to prevent the CP's strike force intent. kinda plodding down into 3 quarter and bypassing midfielders?



I hard, I'm gutted to see the images of suarez. I truly hate the comments of other fans (today's local radio DJ's, fB comments laughing at what they terms as our meltdown)

Call it whatever,

I wore a liverpool jersey today. I know whatever score , whatever event that happen, i'm still a fan. I don't go hiding if we were 7th place, 8th place or relegation battle.
Many of us are a fan of liverpoolfc over a lifetime, in good times & low times.


Thank you rodgers, suarez, gerrard & the rest of liverpool. You reminded many of us the virtue of LiverpoolFc spirit. disappointment & sparrows, for now. but it will be faith & stronger spirit in the near future
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not bad considering we were 33-1 odds of becoming champions at the start of the season.

anyway, leaky defense when a team is set to attack is hardly surprising. i just hope next season brandon will relook at this. we need to have a balance, and learn to shut up shop when we are leading.

oh finally, defending from set pieces, OMFG!
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pls br,, he should stop playing gerrard+lucas together.. how to perform tiki-taka if there's 2 slowtard in midfield.. look like we forget the early season first-half syndrome
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QUOTE(shamsul_LP @ May 6 2014, 11:36 AM)
As i said before, we leak the goal due to DM doesnt give enough cover to defender/fullback when they goes into opponent half. Gerrard rarely chase opponent. His age already reached the limit. He better play as AM midfielder because his strength is at attacking part.defensive part poor.
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Whn Gerrard play as DLP he has more time and space to dictate the play and spray passes, doubt he'll be able to do that if he plays as AM.Opponent would have close him down real quick.

But saying this doesn't mean I do not agree with you that DM is not providing enough cover. Just that I don't think moving Gerrard to AM would help.




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The disappointments here show how far we've come. From 7th to challenging the title.

Just found that only Mignolet and Sakho are the signings we've incorporated into starting XI. Others were players who finished 7th last season.

Huge, huge credit to BR. Even if we don't claim the title in this season, I believe he will lead us to a few seasons later. This doesn't mean I've discounted our title chance for this season, everything's possible. Its not over until its over.

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with the draw, even rodgers have conceded the fight (bar a super mCity meltdown)

Rodgers concedes the title push

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Mehh you are so negative.. You expects they all to be who? They are who they are, give them credit when due.

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Well so it seems you guys are satisfied with the draw after letting go of a three goal lead. Up to you then. If I was manager, even at bottom club like Cardiff, i would never ever be happy with letting a 3 goal lead go. If you lose to Chelsea because of one slip by Stevie G, that is still okay. It happens. Letting go of a three goal lead? That is not how champions should be. Simply put, we don't deserve to be champions after that.

Rafa Benitez is always capable of finding areas to improve even when we are winning. That is what I like about him. While some of you may be happy with how our team is right now, there are also those who are capable of seeing in whcih area we should improve. If you guys can't see that our defense need improvement, then I really don't know what to say. Jamie Carragher himself has criticised our defense, Skrtel, Sakho. Not only that, he wasn't happy with Mignolet either. When I criticised the defense, I didn't say our overall performance this season is not good enough. It has been a fantastic season but saying our defense does not need improvement is simply burying one's head in the sand. And one way of improving is to show some of our defenders out the door and bring in better players. That's not rocket science.

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"You can't feel sorry for Liverpool in this situation because the standard of their defending is not acceptable," stated Carragher

"Even when they have been winning games, it's been 4-3, it's 6-3, it's 3-2 and we always felt that their defence would come back and haunt them with the goals they conceded. This was the night when that back four and the goals they conceded as a team defensively came back to haunt them.

"The strikers normally get them out of jail and at 3-2, Sturridge and Suarez nearly got them out of jail again, but you can't keep conceding goals at this level and expect to win big trophies.

http://www.espnfc.com/news/story/_/id/1810...-palace?cc=4716

My sentiments exactly...

Altho he should have stated Johnson has been shit.
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TBH,

1. Johnson performance was shit. Look at how he defense... Leaving space for people to shoot and pass. I think that the first 2 goals conceded came from him.

2. Defense needs lot of improvement

I am sad yes, but when Rodger keep attacking after 3-0, i knew what he was doing. Going to close the gap on GD.

Its ok guys, we really over achieved this season. Let's see how far we can go next season when we reinforce our team with much better players.

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Well so it seems you guys are satisfied with the draw after letting go of a three goal lead. Up to you then. If I was manager, even at bottom club like Cardiff, i would never ever be happy with letting a 3 goal lead go. If you lose to Chelsea because of one slip by Stevie G, that is still okay. It happens. Letting go of a three goal lead? That is not how champions should be. Simply put, we don't deserve to be champions after that.

Rafa Benitez is always capable of finding areas to improve even when we are winning. That is what I like about him. While some of you may be happy with how our team is right now, there are also those who are capable of seeing in whcih area we should improve. If you guys can't see that our defense need improvement, then I really don't know what to say. Jamie Carragher himself has criticised our defense, Skrtel, Sakho. Not only that, he wasn't happy with Mignolet either. When I criticised the defense, I didn't say our overall performance this season is not good enough. It has been a fantastic season but saying our defense does not need improvement is simply burying one's head in the sand. And one way of improving is to show some of our defenders out the door and bring in better players. That's not rocket science.
Well said. Carra's got it right.
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rafa is a perfectionist, its just too bad he didn't have the support from the board

That being said, rodgers will learn from this. I can't emphasise anymore then i have respect of BRodgers to learn his mistakes. Technically I would rate him behind rafa, and for now even behind houllier. (i know some will verdantly disagree).

Well, it bolls down to having to make changes to the team with substitutes that stabilise or improve the team (win). many or most of rodgers sub inclusions have been (in my opinion) not help greatly. We starts of well no doubt. Both houllier & rafa never had several speed demons with skills to match in the likes of suarez + sturidge + sterling + courtino.

It's my opinion anyway. I thnk rodgers will access the season as a whole. we never have real quality on the bench. its still a good season overall to me.
The consensus is until we win a trophy (with BR at the helm), we are building as a team, we have a youthful squad, we don't want to be a wannabee, even wenger with his attractive philosophy football won trophies before.

The disappointment will be our motivation next season & beyond.

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I understand all the emotional ranting. I was disappointed too.

But all is not lost until the last day. So let's keep going even though it is emotionally challenging these few days till Sunday biggrin.gif

Come on Kopites. No fighting.
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I'm a big fan of Lucas but he was pissed poor last night as well. Seems like he wasn't in the same wavelength with the rest of the guys.
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just a crazy suggestion

we should bring in Benitez as a DEF Head Coach...haha like this show on American Football where Denzel Washington was brought in with another coach to play together.

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I understand all the emotional ranting. I was disappointed too.

But all is not lost until the last day. So let's keep going even though it is emotionally challenging these few days till Sunday biggrin.gif

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omg who slipped this time? biggrin.gif

i think skrtel is to be blame this game. his positioning on the last goal was totally doh.gif


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QUOTE(dragontongue88 @ May 6 2014, 12:43 PM)
Well so it seems you guys are satisfied with the draw after letting go of a three goal lead. Up to you then. If I was manager, even at bottom club like Cardiff, i would never ever be happy with letting a 3 goal lead go. If you lose to Chelsea because of one slip by Stevie G, that is still okay. It happens. Letting go of a three goal lead? That is not how champions should be. Simply put, we don't deserve to be champions after that.

Rafa Benitez is always capable of finding areas to improve even when we are winning. That is what I like about him. While some of you may be happy with how our team is right now, there are also those who are capable of seeing in whcih area we should improve. If you guys can't see that our defense need improvement, then I really don't know what to say. Jamie Carragher himself has criticised our defense, Skrtel, Sakho. Not only that, he wasn't happy with Mignolet either. When I criticised the defense, I didn't say our overall performance this season is not good enough. It has been a fantastic season but saying our defense does not need improvement is simply burying one's head in the sand. And one way of improving is to show some of our defenders out the door and bring in better players. That's not rocket science.
Well said. Carra's got it right.
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Personally, I'm disappointed we let a 3 goal lead slip but I'm still proud of what the team has achieved this season. Now some may lead you to believe that this means I don't see the need for improvements but I can assure you that's far from the truth. You can give someone a pat on the back and ask more of him.

Rafa is a perfectionist but in my opinion, he is guilty of micromanaging. Players are like chess pieces to him (quite literally since he doesn't really talk to them unless he is giving them instructions). Brendan is the opposite in that he allows players to express themselves. The truth always lies someone in the middle but if I had to pick one approach, I'd opt for the way we are currently playing. We play as though we fear no one and Anfield has once again become a fortress. Rafa would get it right against the big sides in Europe and then slip up at home against the likes of Reading and Hull.

We do indeed need to improve defensively but more importantly, we need to be smarter about when to attack and when to defend. You simply cannot sustain dominance over another team for the full 90. At some point, they are going to catch their breath and mount a counter offensive. It is during these times that we need to get men back and frustrate them to take the wind out of their sails. I think it's as simple as this. In the times we've given up goals, it's either down to a defensive error, or when the opposing team were enjoying a 15-20 minute spell of rejuvenation.
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Then Liv win 1-0 against Newcastle.
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Personally, I'm disappointed we let a 3 goal lead slip but I'm still proud of what the team has achieved this season. Now some may lead you to believe that this means I don't see the need for improvements but I can assure you that's far from the truth. You can give someone a pat on the back and ask more of him.

Rafa is a perfectionist but in my opinion, he is guilty of micromanaging. Players are like chess pieces to him (quite literally since he doesn't really talk to them unless he is giving them instructions). Brendan is the opposite in that he allows players to express themselves. The truth always lies someone in the middle but if I had to pick one approach, I'd opt for the way we are currently playing. We play as though we fear no one and Anfield has once again become a fortress. Rafa would get it right against the big sides in Europe and then slip up at home against the likes of Reading and Hull.

We do indeed need to improve defensively but more importantly, we need to be smarter about when to attack and when to defend. You simply cannot sustain dominance over another team for the full 90. At some point, they are going to catch their breath and mount a counter offensive. It is during these times that we need to get men back and frustrate them to take the wind out of their sails. I think it's as simple as this. In the times we've given up goals, it's either down to a defensive error, or when the opposing team were enjoying a 15-20 minute spell of rejuvenation.
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That bolded statement is very true. Better defensive organization is needed and it has to be done as a unit. Also, I thought BR overloaded on attack too much last night. Yeah, he might be chasing after the 10 goals or what not but letting both full backs push up so much was a gamble too risky in my opinion, especially when Pulis exploited it and sent pacey players on both flanks. Add the fact that Gerrard doesn't cover as much ground as quickly as he did years back and the defence looks absolutely clueless on how to deal with quick counter attacks. And we've been exploited the same way on many occasions during the past 2 seasons that BR has been in charge. BR should take this match as a harsh lesson. Sometimes, he needs to realize that the team needs a breather themselves and gotta slow down the game and hold the ball. Preserve the lead. "Death by football"

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Day dream of Mancity win against Villa, but in the last match, Carrol scored the only goal of the match, WH won 0-1.
Then Liv win 1-0 against Newcastle.
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Personally, I'm disappointed we let a 3 goal lead slip but I'm still proud of what the team has achieved this season. Now some may lead you to believe that this means I don't see the need for improvements but I can assure you that's far from the truth. You can give someone a pat on the back and ask more of him.

Rafa is a perfectionist but in my opinion, he is guilty of micromanaging. Players are like chess pieces to him (quite literally since he doesn't really talk to them unless he is giving them instructions). Brendan is the opposite in that he allows players to express themselves. The truth always lies someone in the middle but if I had to pick one approach, I'd opt for the way we are currently playing. We play as though we fear no one and Anfield has once again become a fortress. Rafa would get it right against the big sides in Europe and then slip up at home against the likes of Reading and Hull.

We do indeed need to improve defensively but more importantly, we need to be smarter about when to attack and when to defend. You simply cannot sustain dominance over another team for the full 90. At some point, they are going to catch their breath and mount a counter offensive. It is during these times that we need to get men back and frustrate them to take the wind out of their sails. I think it's as simple as this. In the times we've given up goals, it's either down to a defensive error, or when the opposing team were enjoying a 15-20 minute spell of rejuvenation.
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ok, agree on the score about having players express themselves (BR thumbup.gif ) but we need a tight rein. Fergie was able to exploit the league ruthlessly because he knew how to play it like champions. How often ManU would seize all the point at the death of the game. (jokes are made of the famous fergie time). Partly may there is some truth but it all boils down to patience. holding fort after nicking a goal, and blitzing them when opponents are tired towards the end.

This season we always score early (stats proved that) & we piled on it. it's probably excellent given that a match is won by scoring & scoring more we did. we score a lot vs they (opponents) could score (more).

The league is a long haul. perhaps in the last 2-3 games we are now seeing the 'stretched' liverpoolfc. We weren't really tested (physically) the whole season in the way where we we have tough mid week games hence coming to the crucial ending week(s) there seem to be lack of 'energy' in a players reserve (not bench reserve)

We tried hard to play fast 90minutes agasint chelsea. god knows how hard we tried to pound. IN every difficult match, the post matches is and can be mentally draining. just look at galactic real madrid's post CL bayern massacre. Against "a shouldn't be too difficult game" but they drew and drew indeed.

Brendan is quite an idealist, I won't hold it against him. He has brought back believe into liverpoolfc. Honestly i don't want him to be too (or overly) pragmatic on his approach to his players on how they are set forth. But we need to be able to shift gears in the game. There is not one game we 'toyed' with opponents. Blitz opponents we did, on almost all our wins. But shifting to sitting back for a while & conserving energy to hit opponents again (as you also mention)

This is where perhaps that's why andrea pirlo is viewed legendary in his role. he leads & he influence the tempo of the team. Gerrard can learn from him given the years has wilted his bravado runs.

I viewed it that Liverpoolfc season has played exactly how the comics that depicted gerrards childhood's influence (the great roy of rovers). idealistically
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another thing to note, tony pulis has not lost at HOME against us in the bpl. for all his time of long ball and long throw ins at stoke. now hes doing wonders for saving palace from the drop. ugh. another bogey team, or rather MANAGER to get past by ! props to him. he should be manager of the year.
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Got CL, 2nd place, not bad for a season we expected to be 4th and everyone else expected us to be 7th. Buy big in the summer, overhaul the defence and we should be challenging the title every season.
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QUOTE(8sg9ft @ May 6 2014, 02:15 PM)
That bolded statement is very true. Better defensive organization is needed and it has to be done as a unit. Also, I thought BR overloaded on attack too much last night. Yeah, he might be chasing after the 10 goals or what not but letting both full backs push up so much was a gamble too risky in my opinion, especially when Pulis exploited it and sent pacey players on both flanks. Add the fact that Gerrard doesn't cover as much ground as quickly as he did years back and the defence looks absolutely clueless on how to deal with quick counter attacks. And we've been exploited the same way on many occasions during the past 2 seasons that BR has been in charge. BR should take this match as a harsh lesson. Sometimes, he needs to realize that the team needs a breather themselves and gotta slow down the game and hold the ball. Preserve the lead. "Death by football"
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It is understandable to chase after 9 goals feast, take risk when 0-0, 1-0, 3-0 time, but not when 3-1 when left about 10 mins+ to play.

Gerrard is very good is spraying passes, assist in attack, but slow in cover ground, closing down opponent, this is one of weak area that Liv conceding plenty of goals.
You need someone fast to closing down opponent and great reader of the game.
Hamann type of player to protect the backfour is sorely missed.

The team is not good enough to clinch any title with the mindset always try to outscoring opponent, and conceded plenty of goals.
In the history of league even cup, the team manage to clinch trophy always have good defensive record, and one of least conceded goals team.

Know how to score, also need to know how to protect the lead, if not, always nail biting, nervy toward end of the match (happened so many times) that defenders all in chaotic situation.


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No point criticizing our defence because the reason why we conceded so much goals is down to the shape we play and the risk we take. And least you forget, it's precisely the same reason how we managed to pull that 11-game winning streak.

Ask yourself this, where were our midfield when we conceded those goals? Why were our defenders left to fend for themselves, especially against the fresh legs of the CP players? We do miss Hendo's engine, unfortunately. And tbh, I thought Skrtel, Sakho and Johnson did reasonably well right up to that 80-minute mark. It's not a question of personnel, but a question of mentality and tactics.

Anyway, no use crying over spilled milk. Make no mistake about it, we will go into the Newcastle match in celebratory mood. While the players have to gather their focus again and win the final match, whether we finish 1st or 2nd should be irrelevant. The fact is, the players and manager have restored out pride and belief again.

For that alone, their efforts should be applauded and celebrated.

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Then Liv win 1-0 against Newcastle.
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QUOTE(cherroy @ May 6 2014, 02:32 PM)
It is understandable to chase after 9 goals feast, take risk when 0-0, 1-0, 3-0 time, but not when 3-1 when left about 10 mins+ to play.

Gerrard is very good is spraying passes, assist in attack, but slow in cover ground, closing down opponent, this is one of weak area that Liv conceding plenty of goals.
You need someone fast to closing down opponent and great reader of the game.
Hamann type of player to protect the backfour is sorely missed.

The team is not good enough to clinch any title with the mindset always try to outscoring opponent, and conceded plenty of goals.
In the history of league even cup, the team manage to clinch trophy always have good defensive record, and one of least conceded goals team.

Know how to score, also need to know how to protect the lead, if not, always nail biting, nervy toward end of the match (happened so many times) that defenders all in chaotic situation.
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QUOTE(cherroy @ May 6 2014, 03:32 PM)
It is understandable to chase after 9 goals feast, take risk when 0-0, 1-0, 3-0 time, but not when 3-1 when left about 10 mins+ to play.

Gerrard is very good is spraying passes, assist in attack, but slow in cover ground, closing down opponent, this is one of weak area that Liv conceding plenty of goals.
You need someone fast to closing down opponent and great reader of the game.
Hamann type of player to protect the backfour is sorely missed.

The team is not good enough to clinch any title with the mindset always try to outscoring opponent, and conceded plenty of goals.
In the history of league even cup, the team manage to clinch trophy always have good defensive record, and one of least conceded goals team.

Know how to score, also need to know how to protect the lead, if not, always nail biting, nervy toward end of the match (happened so many times) that defenders all in chaotic situation.
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that being said will brendan pull gerrard aside? hamann sat back and only ventured for free kicks & corners (if at all)

granted he (gerrard) is still feels the need to go upfield. even at 1-3?

How do you coach the captain?




in the end, i said deep inside i wish for an istanbul miracle.

MCity fall to aston villa? MCity fall to west ham?

everyone mentioned its merely a minor speed bump for them

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I think some1 post here or in /k/ that his friend is bookie lai d n his friend said liverpool last 3 match is lost draw lost...

Hmmm... I got bad feeling bout this...
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I find it odd that some are saying we aren't deserving of the title or we aren't championship material when we're still in second place. We aren't a perfect team but we're certainly title contenders. If we do win it, everyone will attribute it to the fact we've taken the game to teams the whole season.
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I find it odd that some are saying we aren't deserving of the title or we aren't championship material when we're still in second place. We aren't a perfect team but we're certainly title contenders. If we do win it, everyone will attribute it to the fact we've taken the game to teams the whole season.
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QUOTE(dillonyong @ May 6 2014, 03:06 PM)
Unfortunately, we have overused the mojo. Not supposed to be challenging for title but we are there now. No more mojo left I am afraid. No timeline for the comeback as well biggrin.gif
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Seriously enough with the defeatist attitude. Not good or consistent enough ? How about 11 games winning streak ? To say otherwise is to rob the players, BR and the staff off all the hardwork and milestones they have set this season.

They have given us joy and made us dream. So ff you had enjoyed large part of the season then you need to suck it up and take the disappointments.

This has been a special season at least for me. It's been an immensely entertaining, upsetting, frustrating and absolutely addictive season. Whatever happens - i am proud to be a Liverpool supporter and more so i am proud of the players, BR, the staffs and all you fine posters who has made this season fun and memorable.

Chin up and let's see us through the season. We've come a long way to be where we are today. Next season we go again!
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Some serious additions would be required to maintain momentum in the league as well as progress in Europe. I guess it's an exciting time for Liverpool fans.
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QUOTE(hfi @ May 6 2014, 03:11 PM)
Seriously enough with the defeatist attitude. Not good or consistent enough ? How about 11 games winning streak ? To say otherwise is to rob the players, BR and the staff off all the hardwork and milestones they have set this season.

They have given us joy and made us dream. So ff you had enjoyed large part of the season then you need to suck it up and take the disappointments.

This has been a special season at least for me. It's been an immensely entertaining, upsetting, frustrating and absolutely addictive season. Whatever happens - i am proud to be a Liverpool supporter and more so i am proud of the players, BR, the staffs and all you fine posters who has made this season fun and memorable.

Chin up and let's see us through the season. We've come a long way to be where we are today. Next season we go again!
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Consistently in leaking goals. tongue.gif laugh.gif
Joking only.

They point I bring out for deserving champion material is how to defeat team convincingly, not nail biting almost every matches especially lately, which Liv seems lack of this factor.
But Mancity did.
Compared to 80's, whereby whenever Liv played, fans more and less can expect a win, and win comfortably and fans enjoyed the "show", this is what I called deserving champion materials.
But now, every match, we ponder whether Liv can outscore opponent to win a match or not.

Don't get me wrong, I am not saying the 11 games winning streak is not good, it is a good season already.
BR has done a lot of goodwork and over-achieved, but still I see lack of some "class" and character for a league champion.
Hope the team can progress well, as I also know, it is work in progress. icon_rolleyes.gif


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QUOTE(Duke Red @ May 6 2014, 02:49 PM)
I find it odd that some are saying we aren't deserving of the title or we aren't championship material when we're still in second place. We aren't a perfect team but we're certainly title contenders. If we do win it, everyone will attribute it to the fact we've taken the game to teams the whole season.
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jumping from 7th place last season to at least 2nd place this season is a huge victory for me at least. Being a title contender is a bonus, considering how much liverpool spend on player compare to chelsea and man city. It is 1st season for BR (it is right?) and he did a good job already, plus he did say CL is the main target.

That enough, despite i am sad to see liverpool almost no chance to win BPL this season, still its a good achievement already. Let the other said bla bla bla loserpool loserfool or whatever, only true liverpool supporters knows what it meant to be a true fans, for example like when after losing to chelsea the fans still singing YNWA like we're winnging the game.

#YNWA
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Don't say like that lah...we're currently first!  biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(pallmall @ May 6 2014, 04:00 PM)
jumping from 7th place last season to at least 2nd place this season is a huge victory for me at least. Being a title contender is a bonus, considering how much liverpool spend on player compare to chelsea and man city. It is 1st season for BR (it is right?) and he did a good job already, plus he did say CL is the main target.

That enough, despite i am sad to see liverpool almost no chance to win BPL this season, still its a good achievement already. Let the other said bla bla bla loserpool loserfool or whatever, only true liverpool supporters knows what it meant to be a true fans, for example like when after losing to chelsea the fans still singing YNWA like we're winnging the game.

#YNWA
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QUOTE(reehdus @ May 6 2014, 03:54 PM)
Gah my whatsapp and FB starting to get trolled d. Funny I didn't see these guys two days ago when Sunderland won
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Go figure.


On the Season:


2013/2014 Liverpool 37 25 6 6 99 49
2012/2013 Liverpool 38 16 13 9 71 43

We've won 25 games so far compares to last seasons 16
We've scored 99 goals compared to last seasons 71


HOWEVER

We've conceded more goals this season - perhaps we were playing for defensively last season?
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QUOTE(Mikeshashimi @ May 6 2014, 04:10 PM)
The only people not trolling are City fans.

Go figure.
On the Season:
2013/2014 Liverpool 37 25 6 6 99 49
2012/2013 Liverpool 38 16 13 9 71 43

We've won 25 games so far compares to last seasons 16
We've scored 99 goals compared to last seasons 71
HOWEVER

We've conceded more goals this season - perhaps we were playing for defensively last season?
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We change our philosophy this season, trying to attack more to win more games than parking buses every single dam game. So, it showed we are doing good with that.

To improve our defensive struggles, we already have adequate personal except maybe some players like Glen to play defense but just no good defensive coach to discipline them and teach them how to play defense.
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Before this I predicted Crystal Palace vs Liverpool draw to be 2-2, seems nearly accurate, only 1 goal less laugh.gif

I would like to make a new prediction here:

Man City vs Aston Villa 4-1
Man City vs West Ham 3-0 smile.gif
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QUOTE(yeelong @ May 6 2014, 03:10 PM)
Icing on the cake ma friend, Icing on the cake. We cement our UCL place, Suarez happy, everyone happy, Suarez got many many awards from England FA, meaning England FA accepted him. So we are doing a lot of good things this season. Just enjoy it.
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Yup agree. But at the same time I can understand la.

Guys, Dragontongue dont mean it la. It is just that moment when emotion struck you. You get crazy like a girl on PMS. After that, you will accept that we have done well afterall. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(dillonyong @ May 6 2014, 06:04 PM)
Guys, Dragontongue dont mean it la. It is just that moment when emotion struck you. You get crazy like a girl on PMS. After that, you will accept that we have done well afterall. biggrin.gif
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Yeah yeah, dillon's PMS last night was super explosive. tongue.gif

Anyway who knows, maybe the Premier League is emulating the drama in La Liga? City losing to Aston Villa 1-0, anybody? biggrin.gif

http://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2...tletico-la-liga

To paraphrase the first sentence of the article: "First Chelsea Football Club lost the league, then Liverpool Football Club lost the league, and then Manchester City lost the league. In the end, none of them lost the league."

Highly doubt it though.
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QUOTE(kensh!!n @ May 6 2014, 05:27 PM)
Before this I predicted Crystal Palace vs Liverpool draw to be 2-2, seems nearly accurate, only 1 goal less laugh.gif

I would like to make a new prediction here:

Man City vs Aston Villa 4-1
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QUOTE(led_zep_freak @ May 6 2014, 06:23 PM)
Yeah yeah, dillon's PMS last night was super explosive. tongue.gif

Anyway who knows, maybe the Premier League is emulating the drama in La Liga? City losing to Aston Villa 1-0, anybody? biggrin.gif

http://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2...tletico-la-liga

To paraphrase the first sentence of the article: "First Chelsea Football Club lost the league, then Liverpool Football Club lost the league, and then Manchester City lost the league. In the end, none of them lost the league."

Highly doubt it though.
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Nope. AV 2 to the good biggrin.gif Why? MC will attack like hell and then last minute injury time, kaboom biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(led_zep_freak @ May 6 2014, 06:23 PM)
Yeah yeah, dillon's PMS last night was super explosive. tongue.gif

Anyway who knows, maybe the Premier League is emulating the drama in La Liga? City losing to Aston Villa 1-0, anybody? biggrin.gif

http://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2...tletico-la-liga

To paraphrase the first sentence of the article: "First Chelsea Football Club lost the league, then Liverpool Football Club lost the league, and then Manchester City lost the league. In the end, none of them lost the league."

Highly doubt it though.
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QUOTE(dillonyong @ May 6 2014, 06:31 PM)
Kenshin 0.00000000000000000000000000 vs Kopites 1999  vmad.gif
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I'll just say this much. To play for liverpool FC is a privilege, an honour. Every time you go out there you are supposed to bleed for the team and fight for the team. Each and everyone of them have to earn the right to wear that shirt. Luis Suarez was being an a$$ last year asking to leave the club, but judging from his performance this year, he has earned his right to be a Liverpool player. In my opinion, and just my opinion, others may disagree, but for me some of the players we had this season had been riding on the success of our better players. Did you guys see Luis Suarez crying out there? What did you feel? I felt anger, angry cause I think he gave everything he got to help us win the title. He couldn't give anymore. He's scored more than 30 goals this season, what else do you want him to do? But some of the rest, they either didn't give their best or their best were not good enough. Either way, the fact is this: one of the world's best striker is unlikely to win the Premiership title this season, because his teammates weren't good enough. And he is hurting so much out there yesterday. So if you guys think that now is the time to give a pat on the back to some of his teammates for a job well done this season, then fair play. Your call.

Sure, we did better than we all expected at the start of the season, and credit must be given to he manager and players. But the question that matters to me, and apparently not to some of you, is which players deserve credit. For me, one or two players can be considered to be riding the gravy train. But hey, it is just my opinion.
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grumble.gif how can they concede 3 goals in last 10 mins??
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We are where we are this season because of the way we have played all season. If we were a more cautious side, it's arguable that we would have won 11 games out of 13 before the loss to Chelsea.

Here's a good piece by Paul Tomkins. Echoes what I've been saying all along about hindsight.

http://tomkinstimes.com/2014/05/we-are-wha...hat-we-are-not/
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"If Manchester United fans want to laugh at us, let them; only one big club was a shambles this season. If they need to laugh at Liverpool to get over being so abject in 2013/14, so be it. We can always buy both clubs’ season review DVDs and have a good laugh."

Burnnnnn!!

"But if City do hold on, then despite relying on their wage bill (which can’t be much higher than Chelsea’s, who’ve done far less this season), they’d be deserving champions. They also have a manager with some class and dignity, much like Liverpool, but of course, unlike Chelsea."

Double burnnnn!! laugh.gif
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luiz suarez tracked back to our own penalty box to defend when we were counter attacked after a corner. anyone confirm this? seen the replay and i think it was him.

he had given it all during the game. another sad week for us.

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Well we got 2nd place, that's overachieving.

We wanted European (Europa?) and we now got Champions League.

This will be a true test for the manager and the team.


I hope we get good silverware next season.
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Reading this makes my blood boil: http://www.goal.com/en-my/news/3890/englan...ol?ICID=HP_TS_3

Quote: "It was nice to see Suarez in tears at the end because he is a blatant cheat," Gallagher said to talkSPORT. "It was an endearing image, Gerrard too.

"I can't believe he [Suarez] won the Football Writers' Award
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Disappointed with last night match but was proud of this season performance. Most media predicted us to be in 5th or 6th place and fan was targeting 4th place (champion league) but we had overachieve and challenge for title.

Anyway there is still hope. Man City might still slip in their last 2 games. Although is difficult but not impossible. We might still be able to win the tittle.
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After all, we really miss the presence of Hendo.
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QUOTE(AskarPerang @ May 6 2014, 07:25 PM)
luiz suarez tracked back to our own penalty box to defend when we were counter attacked after a corner. anyone confirm this? seen the replay and i think it was him.

he had given it all during the game. another sad week for us.
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QUOTE(led_zep_freak @ May 6 2014, 06:23 PM)
Yeah yeah, dillon's PMS last night was super explosive. tongue.gif

Anyway who knows, maybe the Premier League is emulating the drama in La Liga? City losing to Aston Villa 1-0, anybody? biggrin.gif

http://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2...tletico-la-liga

To paraphrase the first sentence of the article: "First Chelsea Football Club lost the league, then Liverpool Football Club lost the league, and then Manchester City lost the league. In the end, none of them lost the league."

Highly doubt it though.
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If not mistaken, just months before, JM said, they are not title favourite, as well as both BR and Pellegrine played down title talk.
So nobody want the title... laugh.gif
And Martinez also joked since nobody want, he would like to have it. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(8sg9ft @ May 6 2014, 07:19 PM)
"If Manchester United fans want to laugh at us, let them; only one big club was a shambles this season. If they need to laugh at Liverpool to get over being so abject in 2013/14, so be it. We can always buy both clubs’ season review DVDs and have a good laugh."

Burnnnnn!!

"But if City do hold on, then despite relying on their wage bill (which can’t be much higher than Chelsea’s, who’ve done far less this season), they’d be deserving champions. They also have a manager with some class and dignity, much like Liverpool, but of course, unlike Chelsea."

Double burnnnn!! laugh.gif
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QUOTE(nova_freak @ May 6 2014, 07:34 PM)
Reading this makes my blood boil: http://www.goal.com/en-my/news/3890/englan...ol?ICID=HP_TS_3

Quote: "It was nice to see Suarez in tears at the end because he is a blatant cheat," Gallagher said to talkSPORT. "It was an endearing image, Gerrard too.

"I can't believe he [Suarez] won the Football Writers' Award
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QUOTE(reehdus @ May 6 2014, 09:07 PM)
Man that's mean! I'll never pirate another Oasis track again!  tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Duke Red @ May 6 2014, 08:04 PM)
We are where we are this season because of the way we have played all season. If we were a more cautious side, it's arguable that we would have won 11 games out of 13 before the loss to Chelsea.

Here's a good piece by Paul Tomkins. Echoes what I've been saying all along about hindsight.

http://tomkinstimes.com/2014/05/we-are-wha...hat-we-are-not/
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QUOTE(dragontongue88 @ May 6 2014, 06:58 PM)
I'll just say this much. To play for liverpool FC is a privilege, an honour. Every time you go out there you are supposed to bleed for the team and fight for the team. Each and everyone of them have to earn the right to wear that shirt. Luis Suarez was being an a$$ last year asking to leave the club, but judging from his performance this year, he has earned his right to be a Liverpool player. In my opinion, and just my opinion, others may disagree, but for me some of the players we had this season had been riding on the success of our better players. Did you guys see Luis Suarez crying out there? What did you feel? I felt anger, angry cause I think he gave everything he got to help us win the title. He couldn't give anymore. He's scored more than 30 goals this season, what else do you want him to do? But some of the rest, they either didn't give their best or their best were not good enough. Either way, the fact is this: one of the world's best striker is unlikely to win the Premiership title this season, because his teammates weren't good enough. And he is hurting so much out there yesterday. So if you guys think that now is the time to give a pat on the back to some of his teammates for a job well done this season, then fair play. Your call.

Sure, we did better than we all expected at the start of the season, and credit must be given to he manager and players. But the question that matters to me, and apparently not to some of you, is which players deserve credit. For me, one or two players can be considered to be riding the gravy train. But hey, it is just my opinion.
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Football is a team game, especially in the league where no one player could single handedly guide a team to the title. If you win, you celebrate as a team. If you lose, you mourn as a team.

If you honestly believe that it was Suarez alone who has guided us to our current position, you're cleary undermining the contribution from Mignolet (That penalty save started it all, mind you!), Skrtel, Gerrard (In second half of season), Henderson, Sterling and Sturridge.

I personally think that other than our fringe players (Aspas, Moses, Cissokho) and probably Glen Johnson, all our players have done their best they could. If you want to crucify any particular player, go ahead and be our guest. Just keep it constructive.

QUOTE(cherroy @ May 6 2014, 08:46 PM)
If not mistaken, just months before, JM said, they are not title favourite, as well as both BR and Pellegrine played down title talk.
So nobody want the title...  laugh.gif
And Martinez also joked since nobody want, he would like to have it.  biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(yeelong @ May 6 2014, 09:25 PM)
He is a one hit wonder in my book.
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The notion that the team other than Suarez wasn't good enough is rubbish. We're still first and we qualified for the a Champions League. On that score, Chelsea and Arsenal must have rubbish squads. RVP was banging in the goals for Arsenal but they won jack so the rest of their squad was rubbish?

I can think of several players who have had standout season. Gerrard and Sturridge made the PFA Team of the Year. Henderson, Sterling and Coutinho enjoyed their best season in a red shirt. Sterling wasn't even a regular in the first team nor was he anywhere near the England national team. Now he's a favourite to start in Brazil. Both Henderson and Coutinho have 7 assists so far as does Sturridge. Is it purely down to coincidence that our winning streak ended after Henderson got suspended? Between the 3 I've just mentioned and Gerrard and Suarez, the group of them have accumulated a staggering 45 assists. It shows the team is playing better as a unit and not relying purely on individual brilliance to score goals.

So yes I do think some of the lads deserve a pat on the back especially those that fought back after being dropped or heavily criticised for poor form the season before. I think this is a knee jerk reaction to conceding 3 against Palace because heck, we're still top but yet we aren't good enough. What does that say of the teams below us?

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Almost all our players have been immense.

Miggy - bar his lack of punching prowess
Skrtel - bar his shirt pulling ways
Flano - this boy has matured real quick
Sterling - most improved by far
Hendo - improved tremendously (and already evident why he's important to the team)
Gerrard - he has been captain Marvel as usual... bar his slip (shit happens)
Couts - bar his shooting ( yawn.gif )
SAS - What is there to say?
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1 of all, to those who troll in other threads, will be the ones that fall flat in the face. This applies to our own fans as well....dont see the need to troll..yet..not until the title is in hand...having said this, the attack from others have been relentless, not that i care, because we have a manager who is relentless too, and probably they are scared of us....looking forward to next season of relentless attack and stylish football - and if...we play the same way and get 2nd next season, i'd still take it!!!

Having seen the highlite..i'd say nothing much can be done with the 1st goal from palace...it was a shot from back lift and little momentum - and went in albeit with an unlucky touch from Johnson..the same type of shot that Sturij hit the crossbar..ball on the ground and power generated from backlift..the horror show came from the 2nd and 3rd goal...and unfortunately both CD can be held accountable....

Overall, it was an entertaining game for the neutrals, dissapointing for the fans and satisfying for assholes....
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I'll just say this much. To play for liverpool FC is a privilege, an honour. Every time you go out there you are supposed to bleed for the team and fight for the team. Each and everyone of them have to earn the right to wear that shirt. Luis Suarez was being an a$$ last year asking to leave the club, but judging from his performance this year, he has earned his right to be a Liverpool player. In my opinion, and just my opinion, others may disagree, but for me some of the players we had this season had been riding on the success of our better players. Did you guys see Luis Suarez crying out there? What did you feel? I felt anger, angry cause I think he gave everything he got to help us win the title. He couldn't give anymore. He's scored more than 30 goals this season, what else do you want him to do? But some of the rest, they either didn't give their best or their best were not good enough. Either way, the fact is this: one of the world's best striker is unlikely to win the Premiership title this season, because his teammates weren't good enough. And he is hurting so much out there yesterday. So if you guys think that now is the time to give a pat on the back to some of his teammates for a job well done this season, then fair play. Your call.

Sure, we did better than we all expected at the start of the season, and credit must be given to he manager and players. But the question that matters to me, and apparently not to some of you, is which players deserve credit. For me, one or two players can be considered to be riding the gravy train. But hey, it is just my opinion.
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When Liverpool leading 3-0 I thought it was going to be a trashing. Then all of a sudden Crystal Palace score 3 goals. It was epic. Reminds me of one of Arsenal match where they were leading 4-0 then draw 4-4.
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QUOTE(Duke Red @ May 6 2014, 11:47 PM)
The notion that the team other than Suarez wasn't good enough is rubbish. We're still first and we qualified for the a Champions League. On that score, Chelsea and Arsenal must have rubbish squads. RVP was banging in the goals for Arsenal but they won jack so the rest of their squad was rubbish?

I can think of several players who have had standout season. Gerrard and Sturridge made the PFA Team of the Year. Henderson, Sterling and Coutinho enjoyed their best season in a red shirt. Sterling wasn't even a regular in the first team nor was he anywhere near the England national team. Now he's a favourite to start in Brazil. Both Henderson and Coutinho have 7 assists so far as does Sturridge. Is it purely down to coincidence that our winning streak ended after Henderson got suspended? Between the 3 I've just mentioned and Gerrard and Suarez, the group of them have accumulated a staggering 45 assists. It shows the team is playing better as a unit and not relying purely on individual brilliance to score goals.

So yes I do think some of the lads deserve a pat on the back especially those that fought back after being dropped or heavily criticised for poor form the season before. I think this is a knee jerk reaction to conceding 3 against Palace because heck, we're still top but yet we aren't good enough. What does that say of the teams below us?
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There are lots of kneejerkers because of the generation they are brought up in.
Everything is instant nowadays.

People tend to forget that the season is a 38 game run.

After a poor game, these type come out to rant their displeasure again and again, not seeing the woods for the tree.
We started the season just to improve on the 7th place of last season. How many remembered that?
We did so because we do NOT have CL and thereby the funds to behave like the spoiled shieks.

We then humbly aimed for at least 4th placing or CL qualification.
We have done that.

We have out performed along the way. We managed to maintain a challenge throughout the WHOLE season.
Can even remember the last time we did that.

AnD its the whole season. 2 games from the end we are STILL on top the league albeit the finality is no longer in our control.

If you had told me that we would be challenging for 1st or EVEN 2nd placing at the start of the season, I would have laughed me head off.

Perspective, chaps, perspective.

be proud of the achievement of Brendan and the lads and WE GO AGAIN.

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QUOTE(prophetjul @ May 7 2014, 09:00 AM)
There are lots of kneejerkers because of the generation they are brought up in.
Everything is instant nowadays.

People tend to forget that the season is a 38 game run.

After a poor game, these type come out to rant their displeasure again and again, not seeing the woods for the tree.
We started the season just to improve on the 7th place of last season. How many remembered that?
We did so because we do NOT have CL and thereby the funds to behave like the spoiled shieks.

We then humbly aimed for at least 4th placing or CL qualification.
We have done that.

We have out performed along the way. We managed to maintain a challenge throughout the WHOLE season.
Can even remember the last time we did that.

AnD its the whole season. 2 games from the end we are STILL on top the league albeit the finality is no longer in our control.

If you had told me that we would be challenging for 1st or EVEN 2nd placing at the start of the season, I would have laughed me head off.

Perspective, chaps, perspective.

be proud of the achievement of Brendan and the lads and WE GO AGAIN.

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Indeed. Now that Brendan has been offered a 4 year contract, let's hope he'll build on what he's got and we'll be challenging on all fronts next season.

I need to talk a little about expectations. These days they tend to fluctuate on a weekly basis amongst some. We went on a 13 game unbeaten run and of the 13 we won 11 games. Can anyone honestly say they expected to see such a run this season? As fans, I feel we have a responsibility of managing our own expectations. A top four challenge was the goal this season and we more than did that. We secured that goal with games to spare. When we ascended the ladder and climbed to the summit, expectations changed and suddenly we were expected to compete for the title which we are still doing! The defeats against Chelsea and Palace were blows to the chin but we've met and EXCEEDED all expectations placed on us at the start of the season so what's with the negativity? Sure, it will hurt to come so close and miss out on the title but there's no need to take it out on the team. Blame yourself for not giving the team the due recognition they deserved for surpassing your expectations.

Is it all because of Suarez? He's played a massive part no doubt but if you look at the assist numbers, the lads have created a lot of chances for him to tuck them away. Last season he was left mostly to do it on his own. This season he's had a lot of help so credit needs to be given were it's due.

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QUOTE(Duke Red @ May 7 2014, 09:27 AM)
Indeed. Now that Brendan has been offered a 4 year contract, let's hope he'll build on what he's got and we'll be challenging on all fronts next season.

I need to talk a little about expectations. These days they tend to fluctuate on a weekly basis amongst some. We went on a 13 game unbeaten run and of the 13 we won 11 games. Can anyone honestly say they expected to see such a run this season? As fans, I feel we have a responsibility of managing our own expectations. A top four challenge was the goal this season and we more than did that. We secured that goal with games to spare. When we ascended the ladder and climbed to the summit, expectations changed and suddenly we were expected to compete for the title which we are still doing! The defeats against Chelsea and Palace were blows to the chin but we've met and EXCEEDED all expectations placed on us at the start of the season so what's with the negativity? Sure, it will hurt to come so close and miss out on the title but there's no need to take it out on the team. Blame yourself for not giving the team the due recognition they deserved for surpassing your expectations.
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For me personally, the negativity is the disappointment with how we have defended.

Of course I'm proud of the team for overachieving.

But I think it's more of flaw-searching rather than negativity.

The acknowledging of our weaknesses and shortcomings despite a tremendous season, which IMO is nothing wrong.

Unless someone comes out and says: "what a shit season, we had the title and we let it go... always next season".

And I think the CP game was a huge blow coz of how we lost focus...

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It would take a miracle for us to win now. One lost from Man City is enough. Unlikely but it ain't over till it's over.
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It would take a miracle for us to win now. One lost from Man City is enough. Unlikely but it ain't over till it's over.
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Yes well said. Have faith.

We might not win it but we know our team have done brilliantly well this season
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OASIS IS A ONE HIT WONDER? ARE YOU F**KING KIDDING ME?!
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Oasis, admitted they have some good songs, are by far one of the most overrated bands.
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OASIS IS A ONE HIT WONDER? ARE YOU F**KING KIDDING ME?!
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I hardly remember more than 1 song they sang so, in ma book they are one hit wonder, don't get me wrong, i tried to follow the other ablum. But not as good as first one and if they are really great, i sure can remember more of them songs like i did to Micheal Jackson, Beatles, Stevie wonders, Air Suppliers, Marah carey, Whiteny Huston.
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Oasis, admitted they have some good songs, are by far one of the most overrated bands.
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Overrated, underrated is very subjective, but one hit wonder? oh gosh.

Have you ever worked so hard in the day and go home and just lie on the bed with Champagne Supernova playing? You should try that.
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QUOTE(yeelong @ May 7 2014, 09:45 AM)
I hardly remember more than 1 song they sang so, in ma book they are one hit wonder, don't get me wrong, i tried to follow the other ablum. But not as good as first one and if they are really great, i sure can remember more of them songs like i did to Micheal Jackson, Beatles, Stevie wonders, Air Suppliers, Marah carey, Whiteny Huston.
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QUOTE(kenlimfornication @ May 7 2014, 09:37 AM)
OASIS IS A ONE HIT WONDER? ARE YOU F**KING KIDDING ME?!
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Oasis, admitted they have some good songs, are by far one of the most overrated bands.
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QUOTE(yeelong @ May 7 2014, 09:45 AM)
I hardly remember more than 1 song they sang so, in ma book they are one hit wonder, don't get me wrong, i tried to follow the other ablum. But not as good as first one and if they are really great, i sure can remember more of them songs like i did to Micheal Jackson, Beatles, Stevie wonders, Air Suppliers, Marah carey, Whiteny Huston.
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QUOTE(kenlimfornication @ May 7 2014, 09:47 AM)
Overrated, underrated is very subjective, but one hit wonder? oh gosh.

Have you ever worked so hard in the day and go home and just lie on the bed with Champagne Supernova playing? You should try that.
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All we need is Man City to lose 1 game. Come on Nolan!
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QUOTE(kenlimfornication @ May 7 2014, 09:47 AM)
Overrated, underrated is very subjective, but one hit wonder? oh gosh.

Have you ever worked so hard in the day and go home and just lie on the bed with Champagne Supernova playing? You should try that.
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They are a few-hits wonder....

Their songs are okay.

Not my cup of tea I spose.
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All we need is Man City to lose 1 game. Come on Nolan!
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if things has been plan, then city will lose one of their remaining game... tongue.gif
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OK back to football. I believe 60M handed in to BR due to CL qualification right? Why about domestic prize money?? Imagine if BR didn't qualify for any Europa competition. How much he will get? My question is he allow to spend more than 60m pound to strengthen his squad?
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On a hindsight, Hendo's red card was a big impact on the team. We lost the zest in midfield. His energy is second to none and Lucas is just not AM material.

Anyway, hope Villa will not just make up the schedule tonight. Drop points for City means title is still alive. Win for City means last game a must win for us and a draw will do for them.
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QUOTE(yeelong @ May 7 2014, 10:07 AM)
OK back to football. I believe 60M handed in to BR due to CL qualification right? Why about domestic prize money?? Imagine if BR didn't qualify for any Europa competition. How much he will get? My question is he allow to spend more than 60m pound to strengthen his squad?
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We need to bring in quality defenders. CL means more money but also more games and stress. More injuries too. Spend wisely to beef up the bench. Sell wisely too.

Next season, I do hope to see more playing time for Alberto, Suso, Borini and Ibe; at least in cup games.
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QUOTE(lp16 @ May 7 2014, 10:16 AM)
We need to bring in quality defenders. CL means more money but also more games and stress. More injuries too. Spend wisely to beef up the bench. Sell wisely too.

Next season, I do hope to see more playing time for Alberto, Suso, Borini and Ibe; at least in cup games.
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I wonder can BR get more than 60m? coz the targets he aiming will easily over the budget. Of coz he will sell some players like reina, johnson(?), Agger(cry), Aspas, Coatez.
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QUOTE(yeelong @ May 7 2014, 10:23 AM)
I wonder can BR get more than 60m? coz the targets he aiming will easily over the budget. Of coz he will sell some players like reina, johnson(?), Agger(cry), Aspas, Coatez.
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Unless he sell a first team player i doubt it would be significant fee coming in, Agger and Reina maybe but once you sell Agger who would you get to back up the pairing of Skrtel and Sakho. Toure? rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(bearbear @ May 7 2014, 10:35 AM)
Unless he sell a first team player i doubt it would be significant fee coming in, Agger and Reina maybe but once you sell Agger who would you get to back up the pairing of Skrtel and Sakho. Toure? rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(yeelong @ May 7 2014, 10:36 AM)
Unless he sell a first team player i doubt it would be significant fee coming in, Agger and Reina maybe but once you sell Agger who would you get to back up the pairing of Skrtel and Sakho. Toure?
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QUOTE(Patt_Hup @ May 7 2014, 10:41 AM)
Please hate me for saying this  innocent.gif . I'm happy with him so far this season. Minus both of the blunders, he's one experience, solid Defender. And he can assist with very good long passing too.  nod.gif
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Who were u talking? Papa? Shako or Toure?
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one papa that we are linked with

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Also linked with Cardiff's captan - Caulker as he has a clause to exit following cardiff's relegation.

Wasn't impressed with him during our win of 6-3 but plus point is he is English
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Wasn't impressed with Caulker. But he can do a Hendo.... smile.gif

We have pressing need for good solid defenders. LB and RB has always been our weak point. How I wish Hyppia-Henchoz partnership never ends....
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Thing about our defence is it isn't down purely to the players. I think we can all admit that Skrtel has had a solid season over all and so has Sakho so it's a contradiction to say our defence has been crap all season despite conceding goals. Here are a couple of things we need to consider :-

1) When was the last time a team scored the most goals in the league but also conceded the least? I'm sure there are examples but I can't remember. The point I'm trying to make is one Paul Tomkins mentioned; that "we are who we are and not who we're not". Playing attacking football often means you'll be more prone to conceding than a team that parks the bus e.g. Chelsea. We have conceded 26 goals more than them but we've scored 30 more and we find ourselves 2 points ahead of them. The numbers reflect the difference between a more offensive team and a more defensive one. Makes sense doesn't it?

2) A lot of the goals we've conceded have come from defensive errors but at the same time, our centrebacks have largely had good games this season. What gives? Players are usually forced into making mistakes when they are under immense pressure or are left exposed. By pushing players forward we leave gaps at the back for opposition players to run at our defenders and not many centrebacks are comfortable with having forwards running at them. Skrtel and Sakho do well in physical battles but neither is particularly fleet footed. We therefore need to be smarter about when to push forwards in numbers i.e. when the momentum of the game is in our favour), and when to defend i.e. when the opponent catches a gust of wind in their sails. I don't think it's as much a case about having bad defenders than it is about being bad at defending.

In conclusion I'd say it's a case of "live by the sword, die by the sword". We should continue to take the game to teams. It's gotten us where we are today but we also need to realise that we cannot sustain our attacking play for 90 minutes and we need to choose the right times to retreat before going on the offensive again. New defenders aren't going to rectify our porous defence.

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QUOTE(Duke Red @ May 7 2014, 11:20 AM)
Thing about our defence is it isn't down purely to the players. I think we can all admit that Skrtel has had a solid season over all and so has Sakho so it's a contradiction to say our defence has been crap all season despite conceding goals. Here are a couple of things we need to consider :-

1) When was the last time a team scored the most goals in the league but also conceded the least? I'm sure there are examples but I can't remember. The point I'm trying to make is one Paul Tomkins mentioned; that "we are who we are and not who we're not". Playing attacking football often means you'll be more prone to conceding that a team that parks the bus e.g. Chelsea. We have conceded 26 goals more than them but we've scored 30 more and we find ourselves 2 points ahead of them. The numbers reflect the difference between a more offensive team and a more defensive one. Makes sense doesn't it?

2) A lot of the goals we've conceded have come from defensive errors but at the same time, our centrebacks have largely had good games this season. What gives? Players are usually forced into making mistakes when they are under immense pressure or are left exposed. By pushing players forward we leave gaps at the back for opposition players to run at our defenders and not many centrebacks are comfortable with having forwards running at them. Skrtel and Sakho do well in physical battles but neither is particularly fleet footed. We therefore need to be smarter about when to push forwards in numbers i.e. when the momentum of the game is in our favour), and when to defend i.e. when the opponent catches a gust of wind in their sails? I don't think it's as much a case about having bad defenders than it is about being bad at defending.

In conclusion I'd say it's a case of "live by the sword, die by the sword". We should continue to take the game to teams. It's gotten us where we are today but we also need to realise that we cannot sustain our attacking play for 90 minutes and we need to choose the right times to retreat before going on the offensive again. New defenders aren't going to rectify our porous defence.
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"If Manchester United fans want to laugh at us, let them; only one big club was a shambles this season. If they need to laugh at Liverpool to get over being so abject in 2013/14, so be it. We can always buy both clubs’ season review DVDs and have a good laugh."

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"But if City do hold on, then despite relying on their wage bill (which can’t be much higher than Chelsea’s, who’ve done far less this season), they’d be deserving champions. They also have a manager with some class and dignity, much like Liverpool, but of course, unlike Chelsea."

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I would be extremely delighted if we get both but to be fair, Griezmann is so effing good since I started watching him playing last season. This season he is even better. If we can snap them both, it could be the thing we need to improve our squad. The flair offered by Griezmann is definitely better than Moses.
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QUOTE(solstice818 @ May 7 2014, 11:37 AM)
I would be extremely delighted if we get both but to be fair, Griezmann is so effing good since I started watching him playing last season. This season he is even better. If we can snap them both, it could be the thing we need to improve our squad.  The flair offered by Griezmann is definitely better than Moses.
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with all due respect, i list a few more players that can offer better flair than Moses sweat.gif
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But this guy has hit 20 goals this season. laugh.gif I was pointing out Moses because this guy plays the same position as Moses does...He plays at the wings with strong left foot but with an equally decent right foot. Now that Sociedad misses on Champion League. we can poach on him. brows.gif
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QUOTE(solstice818 @ May 7 2014, 11:51 AM)
But this guy has hit 20 goals this season.  laugh.gif  I was pointing out Moses because this guy plays the same position as Moses does...He plays at the wings with strong left foot but with an equally decent right foot. Now that Sociedad misses on Champion League. we can poach on him. brows.gif
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our 60m pound fund might not be enough to poach them all.....
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Baines/Coleman/Luke Shaw/Lallana
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QUOTE(solstice818 @ May 7 2014, 11:37 AM)
I would be extremely delighted if we get both but to be fair, Griezmann is so effing good since I started watching him playing last season. This season he is even better. If we can snap them both, it could be the thing we need to improve our squad.  The flair offered by Griezmann is definitely better than Moses.
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Baines/Coleman/Luke Shaw/Lallana
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20 + 17 + 12 + 16 = 65
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No money no honey    biggrin.gif

20 + 17 + 12 + 16 = 65
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our 60m pound fund might not be enough to poach them all.....
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Aspas- 5m
Assaidi -4m
Borini - Estimated at 6m


We are expected to have more than 20m+ (excluding the saving of wages on big contract like Reina who is on 90-100k and Aspas who is reported on 50-70k). Of course, I wont be surprise to see the likes of Agger, Toure and Glenny leave. So, if most of them leave, we would probably have a younger squad with a lower wages.

But of course, with CL looming, I reckon BR to keep at least few of the seniors but I still think that the likes of Reina (dispute with BR), Agger (lack of playtime and Barca seems to want a replacement for Puyol and their long term interest mean he would probably leave for good) , Toure ( Clumsy, high wage, decent backup but leadership on pitch is highly doubtful to be able to replace Carra's) and Glenny(contract expiring and recent form suggest he doesnt deserve a new one. Age factor another issue for FSG contract policy) will leave for good.

And then we will always have some unexpected transfer that we dont mean to sell but club offer good price and we sell off to balance the account. The likes of Shelvey, Downing come to mind. I reckon these potential leavers would probably be Suso ( who was rumored to be a bargaining chip for Porto's Fernando deal), Lucas/ Allen( one will have to make way if we make another midfielder signing since we already have Coutinho, Gerrard and Henderson.)

With all these reasons, I think we will probably have up to an estimated sum of 100m to spend in summer with the net spend around 60m.
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you watch Real Scociedad? I am impressed!  thumbup.gif
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Fans should celebrate this season, no matter how we finish, because Liverpool FC has made great strides forward.

I don't think the two Evertonians mentioned will be for sale, much less to us! Both Lallana and Shaw will be expensive, but if we can afford one of them, I'd get Shaw. I hope we bring Suso back from loan and Enrique back from injury.

There may be a few players to offload from our side, but we also need a better pool of players because of CL next season. Hence, I don't think we will sell more than three, with Toure almost a certainty.

Hopefully, with more money, BR will not acquire second rate players like Aspas and Moses (on loan), and those who come free. I think he needs to prioritize world class defenders this summer, and possibly a goalkeeper too.
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QUOTE(Duke Red @ May 7 2014, 11:20 AM)
1) When was the last time a team scored the most goals in the league but also conceded the least? I'm sure there are examples but I can't remember. The point I'm trying to make is one Paul Tomkins mentioned; that "we are who we are and not who we're not". Playing attacking football often means you'll be more prone to conceding than a team that parks the bus e.g. Chelsea. We have conceded 26 goals more than them but we've scored 30 more and we find ourselves 2 points ahead of them. The numbers reflect the difference between a more offensive team and a more defensive one. Makes sense doesn't it?
man city - currently 2nd best attack and 2nd best defence.
actually city seems to be the prime example here...when they won the league couple yrs ago they had the best attack and best defence.
when chelsea won the year before that, they had their record breaking attack and also 2nd best defence.



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man city - currently 2nd best attack and 2nd best defence.
actually city seems to be the prime example here...when they won the league couple yrs ago they had the best attack and best defence.
when chelsea won the year before that, they had their record breaking attack and also 2nd best defence.
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The one scored most goals shud win the league. And ull see in a match total 10-20 goals
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lots of what if also.
if LFC conceded less goals, perhaps some of those losses would be draws...and uhh some of those draws would be wins...
like carra also said, cant always rely on the attack to drag the team out from situations...
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luke and lala each commanding minimal 20m leh..
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Please la,no fighting2 tongue.gif We'll see in May 2015.. brows.gif
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QUOTE(Everdying @ May 7 2014, 01:38 PM)
lots of what if also.
if LFC conceded less goals, perhaps some of those losses would be draws...and uhh some of those draws would be wins...
like carra also said, cant always rely on the attack to drag the team out from situations...
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That year also is not that we cant score, we were rich with attempts and the team with most woodwork hit. Some draws dat year wudve been wins.
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QUOTE(Duke Red @ May 7 2014, 11:20 AM)
Thing about our defence is it isn't down purely to the players. I think we can all admit that Skrtel has had a solid season over all and so has Sakho so it's a contradiction to say our defence has been crap all season despite conceding goals. Here are a couple of things we need to consider :-

1) When was the last time a team scored the most goals in the league but also conceded the least? I'm sure there are examples but I can't remember. The point I'm trying to make is one Paul Tomkins mentioned; that "we are who we are and not who we're not". Playing attacking football often means you'll be more prone to conceding than a team that parks the bus e.g. Chelsea. We have conceded 26 goals more than them but we've scored 30 more and we find ourselves 2 points ahead of them. The numbers reflect the difference between a more offensive team and a more defensive one. Makes sense doesn't it?

2) A lot of the goals we've conceded have come from defensive errors but at the same time, our centrebacks have largely had good games this season. What gives? Players are usually forced into making mistakes when they are under immense pressure or are left exposed. By pushing players forward we leave gaps at the back for opposition players to run at our defenders and not many centrebacks are comfortable with having forwards running at them. Skrtel and Sakho do well in physical battles but neither is particularly fleet footed. We therefore need to be smarter about when to push forwards in numbers i.e. when the momentum of the game is in our favour), and when to defend i.e. when the opponent catches a gust of wind in their sails. I don't think it's as much a case about having bad defenders than it is about being bad at defending.

In conclusion I'd say it's a case of "live by the sword, die by the sword". We should continue to take the game to teams. It's gotten us where we are today but we also need to realise that we cannot sustain our attacking play for 90 minutes and we need to choose the right times to retreat before going on the offensive again. New defenders aren't going to rectify our porous defence.
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2. One of team the scored the most goal
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The champion may not the best of 1,2,3 but it won't too far away from it, may ranked in front of the 3 category.

Man Utd did it many times by having the best score and least conceded to crown champion of the league.
Same with Chelsea, Arsenal during its year of invincible.

Liv managed doing it 1 & 2, but not doing well for 3.
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Luke Shaw is talented and is a proven PL player. IMO, he is better than Coleman, as evident when they played each other in the recent Southamption v Everton game.

The price of English players are always inflated. Shaw is probably worth around 15m in the world market. The 5m are for his youthfulness and PL experience.
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QUOTE(RedSiglap56 @ May 7 2014, 03:07 PM)
Luke Shaw is talented and is a proven PL player. IMO, he is better than Coleman, as evident when they played each other in the recent Southamption v Everton game.

The price of English players are always inflated. Shaw is probably worth around 15m in the world market. The 5m are for his youthfulness and PL experience.
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throw sterling out there see who willing to pay 30 mil for him?
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35m for AC was more like extortion. We showed desperation to fill the vacancy at that time. Never to be repeated.

This time, we are rebuilding or reinforcing. Hopefully we can negotiate better. icon_idea.gif
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35m for AC was more like extortion. We showed desperation to fill the vacancy at that time. Never to be repeated.

This time, we are rebuilding or reinforcing. Hopefully we can negotiate better. icon_idea.gif
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If look at history of league table, the champion most of the time having
1. One of best goal difference
2. One of team the scored the most goal
3. One of least goal conceded

The champion may not the best of 1,2,3 but it won't too far away from it, may ranked in front of the 3 category.

Man Utd did it many times by having the best score and least conceded to crown champion of the league.
Same with Chelsea, Arsenal during its year of invincible.

Liv managed doing it 1 & 2, but not doing well for 3.
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Yup winning the league will mean you're one of the best at something. Thing is it's hard to be the best at everything especially if you don't have the sort of money to purchase world class players in every position and have 11 other internationals on the bench.

Without going too far back, let's look at the most recent champions :-

2013-2012 : Man Utd ( Top scorers, 5th best defence)
2012-2011 : Man City ( Top scorers, best defence)
2011-2010 : Man Utd ( Top scorers, 3rd best defence)
2010-2009 : Chelsea (Top scorers, 2nd best defence)
2009-2008 : Man Utd (Joint second top scorers, Joint best defence)

What you've said is true.

The goals we've conceded though have largely been down to defensive errors. For us, it's probably more about finding a balance. Agger and Skrtel were boss one season and were found wanting the next when we played a higher line. We have shown in some games that we can defend as a team but we don't often do that because we're always looking to press high. This led to my 2nd of 2 points where we need to look at dropping deeper when the momentum of the game swings in favour of the opposition if only just momentarily.
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This reminds me of the "total football" of the Dutch national team in the late 1970s.

I remember the wave of orange moving forward in attack and moving back in defence. A friend of mine told me around that time that Liverpool played like a machine - everybody going up in attack and everybody running back in defence - in a somewhat similar system of play. Pretty awesome system.

As one can imagine, very energy sapping too! Will we be able to see that again?
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We didn't play total football la. Jan Molby for example never left the centre circle smile.gif
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I think liv will raid Southampton.. lovren, shaw n lallana bidding war.. means Southampton will have at least 40mil to spend in the summer..

Should get a power striker also.. power+strenght+pace likes Lukaku. At times we need plan b for someone could hold up ball.. now Suarez and Sturridge all depending on good passes from the midfield. If Lukaku has good technical ability, 1-2 touch passes, flick pass, calm guided header etc etc.. could work very for our style of football..

Maybe Lambert? Cheaper alternative.. also another reason why BR wanted to keep AC but AC technical abitity piss poor. He needs someone could hold up and build up play

Noticed whenever Suarez n Sturridge back down to receive ball.. either get tackled or getting tracked down

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I think liv will raid Southampton.. lovren, shaw n lallana bidding war.. means Southampton will have at least 40mil to spend in the summer..

Should get a power striker also.. power+strenght+pace likes Lukaku. At times we need plan b for someone could hold up ball.. now Suarez and Sturridge all depending on good passes from the midfield. If Lukaku has good technical ability, 1-2 touch passes, flick pass, calm guided header etc etc.. could work very for our style of football..

Maybe Lambert? Cheaper alternative.. also another reason why  BR wanted to keep AC but AC technical abitity piss poor. He needs someone could hold up and build up play
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QUOTE(Duke Red @ May 7 2014, 04:56 PM)
We didn't play total football la. Jan Molby for example never left the centre circle smile.gif
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Haha..I know what you mean about Molby (mid 80s to 90s), but the "total football" like system that I witnessed was from a slightly earlier era.

I'm referring to the likes of Jimmy Case, David Johnson, Alan Kennedy, Ray Kennedy, Sammy Lee (yes despite his height, he was speedy), Terry McDermott, Phil Neal, Graeme Souness, Phil Thompson and (yes) Kenny Dalglish!

Cannot vouch that it was exactly "total football" but from the stands, I could see the 'red wave' moving up and down together..mostly moving up those days!
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IF(taboo) only we got costa last summer.haha
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Aston villa will surely score vs ct to9.

Juz score more then concede.that the best!

Keep the faith keep the believe!

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Aston villa will surely score vs ct to9.

Juz score more then concede.that the best!

Keep the faith keep the believe!

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Cheer the moment.

2 hours to go before we back to 2nd place on the table tongue.gif
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Sunderland 0 : 1 Aston Villa

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and aston villa last 10 away game

1win 2draw 7loss
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We all know pretty well City will win the game. There is no way Villa can get even one point!
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So the epl goes to the final game.

Btw liverpool and ct.

City need 1 point and liverpool to not put 10-0 past newcastle or 3 point to be sure of winning or lose while liverpool fail to win

Liverpool only chance is to win and west ham win or win 10-0 while city draw.

Still a chance even though is super slim.

Anything can happen in football.liverpool leading at top during dec and 2 lose against ct n chelski put CL as the only realistic target. It is a 11winning streak and slip up from chelski n ct make liverpool hv a chance to be in the position after 37 epl game.it is never end until it is end.
The final day of the season will be the ultimate climax if both liverpool n west ham leading in their respective game.

Wether ct or liverpool win it is the best attacking football team who win the league and not some team with stupid noisy fan who not even in the race till the final day.

Early congrate to either liverpool or city as epl 2013/14 champion.
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Well, if City wins it this season, I'd say that they deserved it.
Pure class football. And Yaya Toure, what a player he is.

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Well, if City wins it this season, I'd say that they deserved it.
Pure class football. And Yaya Toure, what a player he is.
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it's almost over... it has been a great great season...
the only downside is that we have spent a lot of money to sign defenders.. but our defensive is still very awful.. hopefully there'll be a significant improvement next season.. add more qualities and keep our key players...

europe, here we come!!
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it will be crazy if the last match Mancity lose tongue.gif
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QUOTE(kevafk @ May 8 2014, 05:48 AM)
it will be crazy if the last match Mancity lose tongue.gif
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QUOTE(seizer @ May 8 2014, 12:29 AM)
Of course they will be back. With citeh-like money spending spree next season brows.gif
Manscum way is 'stability', at least before Moyes was sack  hmm.gif
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QUOTE(kevafk @ May 8 2014, 05:48 AM)
it will be crazy if the last match Mancity lose tongue.gif
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Don't give up, 2 years ago final match, qpr also give them a hard time and even take a 2-1 lead ... So anything is possible

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QUOTE(BoltonMan @ May 8 2014, 07:53 AM)
Don't give up, 2 years ago final match, qpr also give them a hard time and even take a 2-1 lead ... So anything is possible
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But still the match ended 3-2.

Mancity home form is pretty good and consistently throughout the season, the most WH can do is park the bus and hope Mancity misfiring and ended with 0-0.
The only loss for then entire season was against Chelsea.

They even can win with 10 men.
So they are the deserving champion.

Mathematically is still possible, but very very unlikely.
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QUOTE(manx @ May 8 2014, 07:41 AM)
possible... anything can happen smile.gif
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We wish, secretly we all do cling on that remote feeling.

Will will look forward for the future, quality reinforcements, not just hearsay we did quite well this season without better quality at the bench. The squad will be taxed with champions league games, lots more traveling, will definitely put a huge strain on the squad if we only just maintain and add feeble additions.

I'm looking forward if Rodgers has an eye more for reinforcement in the midfield (first), second defense. While I know the defense is leaky in goals. I think our midfield is more important in the aspect we play with such high intensity, our current midfield is then too meek facing an onslaught by the opposition, we can't just leave the defense to soldier the opponent attacks alone in the second half.

Overall we may feel gerrard has done ok in his department, but remaining of Lucas, Allen, Henderson & courtino is a little too lightweight given we now have to content with further midweek workloads.

Gerrard needs a understudy, we need one real bad. His service for us in the years is exceptional, but we cannot cling and hope for him to shoulder us (even in a walking stick!) He has shown his influence in many games for us this season. The freekicks, the penalties are as important to us as he is decisive in his actions. (I do miss jonjo shelvey, flawed in some ways of his game but wasn't gerrard too has his minor flaws)

Of the several, I'm look forward to adam lallana. He looks promisingly ok. Seems a hefty price tag attached.

I hope we can do business sanely this summer without Real Madrid distracting us with a Suarez bid. That the last thing I want. If I know Real Madrid, the won't take a simple no. The episode with pursuit of bale certainly wasn't conducted
In a simple manner. That I felt caused a disjointed effort by spurs this season simply because a large influx of players were included with lesser or no core within that team.

Some of the other names that I saw linked to us
Ogenyi Onazi, Antoine Griezmann, Roberto Firmino, Micah Richards, Marcos Rojo

Not sure if any of these will materialise, but I hope we land them (if they are Rodgers targets). 60mil isn't a lot if one compares to the potential of manU, mCity and Chelsea's bank account. Doesn't matter it take a little negotiation to land quality, proper quality players.

It's far far better than to have 'done our business's' early but with rather less impressive, slightly laughable quality. Coming of the bench that doesn't offer any improvement to the team but more anguish instead sad.gif

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QUOTE(cherroy @ May 8 2014, 08:00 AM)
But still the match ended 3-2.

Mancity home form is pretty good and consistently throughout the season, the most WH can do is park the bus and hope Mancity misfiring and ended with 0-0.
The only loss for then entire season was against Chelsea.

They even can win with 10 men.
So they are the deserving champion.

Mathematically is still possible, but very very unlikely.
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I also think Man City are deserving winners.

And for us to win it would be an insane miracle.

Just win the last home game, finish 2nd and end on a high and carry on next season.

From 7th to 2nd in a season is more than enough for a small squad like ours.

And I love all the phrases we conjured this season... especially 'We go again'.
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QUOTE(Mikeshashimi @ May 8 2014, 08:35 AM)
I also think Man City are deserving winners.

And for us to win it would be an insane miracle.

Just win the last home game, finish 2nd and end on a high and carry on next season.

From 7th to 2nd in a season is more than enough for a small squad like ours.

And I love all the phrases we conjured this season... especially 'We go again'.
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I agree.

Over the 38 games, MancsC is the deserving winners.
We have simply let in too many goals compared.

Their squad quality shows through. When Aguero was injured and Negredo off form, they had another quality striker to come to the fore.
Come to the fore, he did, this Dzeko. Always rated him. I would welcome him anytime into our squad.
He is another striker who is in the right place and visibly an intelligient player.
Plus we do not have someone who is good with headers.

Plus of course, all over the park they had quality whereas we are still building for the future with our young uns.

Onward and WE GO AGAIN next year!
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QUOTE(prophetjul @ May 8 2014, 08:42 AM)
I agree.

Over the 38 games, MancsC is the deserving winners.
We have simply let in too many goals compared.

Their squad quality shows through. When Aguero was injured and Negredo off form, they had another quality striker to come to the fore.
Come to the fore, he did, this Dzeko. Always rated him. I would welcome him anytime into our squad.
He is another striker who is in the right place and visibly an intelligient player.
Plus we do not have someone who is good with headers.

Plus of course, all over the park they had quality whereas we are still building for the future with our young uns.

Onward and WE GO AGAIN next year!
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Of course people will say owh look City's squad is 100 million pounds/dollars more than us.

It's not their fault they have money.

Their squad's depth is just immense.

They are good going forwards and defending. We slipped too many time due to our poor defending.

But this is still a good season for us, no matter what people say.

Haters gonna hate.
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QUOTE(Mikeshashimi @ May 8 2014, 08:55 AM)
Of course people will say owh look City's squad is 100 million pounds/dollars more than us.

It's not their fault they have money.

Their squad's depth is just immense.

They are good going forwards and defending. We slipped too many time due to our poor defending.

But this is still a good season for us, no matter what people say.

Haters gonna hate.
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And they FAILED the Fair play rules.
Know what? They are fined 50mil! Drop in the ocean for the sheik.... that's just 800,000 barrels of Crude.....half a days job. biggrin.gif


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/...egulations.html


Do they care? Don't think so.....its like harem......for use/enjoyment by the sheik.

Theres no soul....we are working class..........its a working class team against an oil sheik.....in perspective

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QUOTE(prophetjul @ May 8 2014, 08:58 AM)
And they FAILED the Fair play rules.
Know what? They are fined 50mil!  Drop in the ocean for the sheik.... that's just 800,000 barrels of Crude.....half a days job.  biggrin.gif
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/...egulations.html
Do they care? Don't think so.....its like  harem......for use/enjoyment by the sheik.

Theres no soul....we are working class..........its a working class team against an oil sheik.....in perspective
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Well, money talks.

50million for the owner is like RM5 for us.

But lets not take away the work put in by the players. Dzeko has been insanely on form as of late.
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QUOTE(Mikeshashimi @ May 8 2014, 09:03 AM)
Well, money talks.

50million for the owner is like RM5 for us.

But lets not take away the work put in by the players. Dzeko has been insanely on form as of late.
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Yes

Unfortunately whichever way you skin it, money talks. I bet UEFA luvs listening to the sheik, especially the officials!

And we have to accept money buys quality Most times......Dzeko is an example of that. And many more in the team.
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QUOTE(Mikeshashimi @ May 8 2014, 09:03 AM)
Well, money talks.

50million for the owner is like RM5 for us.

But lets not take away the work put in by the players. Dzeko has been insanely on form as of late.
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Its really down to the last game, not easy to win against WH.. if they think to play for a draw it will be dangerous. They still need a win and of coz we need to win ours too.
Slim chance but anyone could choke getting nervous for the last game when ure so close to win title.

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close but not that close, we had destiny in our own hand but we sort of screw up.

correct me if i am wrong as i only watched the highlight - AV sort of parked the bus and i can see players behind the ball yet MC attack like a boss. I am not tactic freaks who go analyze the whole formation and etc but at the end of the day whichever team that has most points is the deserving champion.
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QUOTE(Mikeshashimi @ May 8 2014, 09:03 AM)
Well, money talks.

50million for the owner is like RM5 for us.

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Fined 50 million and can get trophy and become title contender every year, I think many club also want it.

Frankly speaking, my view, the FFP is like toothless tiger.

No money, no talk in modern football.
Players won't stay with low wages, even you are title contender
Good players won't come, even you are title contender.

Arsenal is a good example, despite with good coach and beauty in football, without spending big to bring star player, there is limit how far the team can go.


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QUOTE(cherroy @ May 8 2014, 09:34 AM)
Fined 50 million and can get trophy and become title contender every year, I think many club also want it.

Frankly speaking, my view, the FFP is like toothless tiger. 

No money, no talk in modern football.
Players won't stay with low wages, even you are title contender
Good players won't come, even you are title contender.

Arsenal is a good example, despite with good coach and beauty in football, without spending big to bring star player, there is limit how far the team can go.
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Like I said. Money talks.
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Lets hope for the impossible

We win our last game and Citeh lose theirs.

We become Champions ~ all these made possible because those Bookies wanted a lower payout for Champions odd which Citeh have lots of punters.

Possible ?

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QUOTE(cherroy @ May 8 2014, 09:34 AM)
Fined 50 million and can get trophy and become title contender every year, I think many club also want it.

Frankly speaking, my view, the FFP is like toothless tiger. 

No money, no talk in modern football.
Players won't stay with low wages, even you are title contender
Good players won't come, even you are title contender.

Arsenal is a good example, despite with good coach and beauty in football, without spending big to bring star player, there is limit how far the team can go.
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i like the objective of FFP but i wonder if they can be as strict as they sound.

Right now they are talking about imposing 21 man squad for both MC and PSG in UCL which must have at least 8 HG players. (I think the usual rule is to have 5 HG only) It hurts but i wonder if this decision will be imposed at the end of the day. And if somehow these clubs escape their way through, we can declare FFP as useless already.

Other notable 'proposal' include limiting PSG to make a transfer of 60M but they cannot sign 2 players at 30M each or 3 players at 20M each.
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QUOTE(bearbear @ May 8 2014, 09:39 AM)
i like the objective of FFP but i wonder if they can be as strict as they sound.

Right now they are talking about imposing 21 man squad for both MC and PSG in UCL which must have at least 8 HG players. (I think the usual rule is to have 5 HG only) It hurts but i wonder if this decision will be imposed at the end of the day. And if somehow these clubs escape their way through, we can declare FFP as useless already.

Other notable 'proposal' include limiting PSG to make a transfer of 60M but they cannot sign 2 players at 30M each or 3 players at 20M each.
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IMO, to really hit hard.

Should also impose transfer sanction/bans.

Can sell, but can't buy.
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QUOTE(digilife @ May 8 2014, 09:37 AM)
Lets hope for the impossible

We win our last game and Citeh lose theirs.

We become Champions ~ all these made possible because those Bookies wanted a lower payout for Champions odd which Citeh have lots of punters.

Possible ?

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Liverpool winning the game against Newcastle + West Ham scoring a late winner, surely i cant deny the power of bookies tongue.gif
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Docking points would really hit them hard biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(prophetjul @ May 8 2014, 08:58 AM)
And they FAILED the Fair play rules.
Know what? They are fined 50mil!  Drop in the ocean for the sheik.... that's just 800,000 barrels of Crude.....half a days job.  biggrin.gif
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/...egulations.html
Do they care? Don't think so.....its like  harem......for use/enjoyment by the sheik.

Theres no soul....we are working class..........its a working class team against an oil sheik.....in perspective
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If they violated FFP, meaning their squad is not qualify to enter any competition at all. I dunno if we could just spend 200m pound and get champion by only fine for 50 m. But still at least we can get no.19. who cares right? They should disqualified the whole squad.
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QUOTE(cherroy @ May 8 2014, 09:34 AM)
Fined 50 million and can get trophy and become title contender every year, I think many club also want it.

Frankly speaking, my view, the FFP is like toothless tiger. 

No money, no talk in modern football.
Players won't stay with low wages, even you are title contender
Good players won't come, even you are title contender.

Arsenal is a good example, despite with good coach and beauty in football, without spending big to bring star player, there is limit how far the team can go.
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I agree. Money talks in football.

If UEFA does not bow, these elite teams can easily pull out of the Euro and set up their own franchise.

They are RICH enough to do so. And footballers will just follow the money and bees to honey.

NO MONEY NO HONEY, BABY!
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QUOTE(yeelong @ May 8 2014, 09:51 AM)
If they violated FFP, meaning their squad is not qualify to enter any competition at all. I dunno if we could just spend 200m pound and get champion by only fine for 50 m. But still at least we can get no.19. who cares right? They should disqualified the whole squad.
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IIRC yesterday's news mentioned that they can only bring in a reduced amount of players into champions league. cant remember the numbers but if the maximum players to be registered is 23 they can bring in only 18 - just an example
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QUOTE(8sg9ft @ May 8 2014, 09:47 AM)
Docking points would really hit them hard biggrin.gif
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I AGREE TOTALLY.

Financial penalties do not hurt as much as docking points.

This is the most effective means IMO
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Here we go.........they will challenge on 'technicality'.

Money still talks..creative accounting, anyone?

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Manchester City's steadfast refusal to accept sanctions for breaching UEFA's financial fair play rules may be because the club believe they only failed on a technicality, according to an expert in the system.





City are contesting UEFA's settlement offer of sanctions which would entail a £49million (60million euro) fine, a cut in the size of their Champions League A squad next season to 21 and a freeze on that squad's wage bill.

Ed Thompson, a financial analyst who runs the financialfairplay.co.uk website, believes the club only failed to comply with the rules because they were unable to write off up to £80million of wages earned by players signed before the FFP rules were announced in 2010.

The club have until the end of the week to reach an agreement or the case will go to a non-negotiable decision by a panel next week.

Of the nine European clubs - also including Paris St Germain - facing FFP sanctions, it is understood City are the furthest away from reaching a settlement.

City had been expressing confidence up until March that they would be able to comply with the rules and had hired consultants to ensure that was the case.

Thompson said: "If they have been unable to write off those wages, that would explain why City are so unhappy about these sanctions, as it's basically on a technicality."

Under UEFA's complicated FFP calculations system, that wages write-off is only allowed if the club's deficit is lower than those wages, and Thompson believes City were unable to convince UEFA that was the case.

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/footbal...rt-9333650.html

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QUOTE(wadefak @ May 8 2014, 09:56 AM)
IIRC yesterday's news mentioned that they can only bring in a reduced amount of players into champions league. cant remember the numbers but if the maximum players to be registered is 23 they can bring in only 18 - just an example
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Squad limitation punished was limit player from 25 to 23 only. and I dun see any significant out of this punishment. It sound LPPL to me.
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I AGREE TOTALLY.

Financial penalties do not hurt as much as docking points. 

This is the most effective means IMO
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These are mega rich clubs. Fine them money? No problem. They just dish out a cheque book and that's it. Dock them points are far more effective or even banning them until they follow the rules.

Their sponsorship is so fake. They own the club, they also own whatever companies that can then pump in a lot of money to the club as 'sponsorship'. They have a lot of lawyers that can look for loopholes in whatever regulation set by the governing bodies.
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QUOTE(wadefak @ May 8 2014, 09:47 AM)
Liverpool winning the game against Newcastle + West Ham scoring a late winner, surely i cant deny the power of bookies tongue.gif
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Remember, we have "parked" Carroll and Downing to WHU for cheap sale.

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QUOTE(prophetjul @ May 8 2014, 10:04 AM)
Here we go.........they will challenge on 'technicality'.

Money still talks..creative accounting, anyone?

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Manchester City's steadfast refusal to accept sanctions for breaching UEFA's financial fair play rules may be because the club believe they only failed on a technicality, according to an expert in the system.
 

City are contesting UEFA's settlement offer of sanctions which would entail a £49million (60million euro) fine, a cut in the size of their Champions League A squad next season to 21 and a freeze on that squad's wage bill.

Ed Thompson, a financial analyst who runs the financialfairplay.co.uk website, believes the club only failed to comply with the rules because they were unable to write off up to £80million of wages earned by players signed before the FFP rules were announced in 2010.

The club have until the end of the week to reach an agreement or the case will go to a non-negotiable decision by a panel next week.

Of the nine European clubs - also including Paris St Germain - facing FFP sanctions, it is understood City are the furthest away from reaching a settlement.

City had been expressing confidence up until March that they would be able to comply with the rules and had hired consultants to ensure that was the case.

Thompson said: "If they have been unable to write off those wages, that would explain why City are so unhappy about these sanctions, as it's basically on a technicality."

Under UEFA's complicated FFP calculations system, that wages write-off is only allowed if the club's deficit is lower than those wages, and Thompson believes City were unable to convince UEFA that was the case.

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/footbal...rt-9333650.html
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Money talks, let them do what they want.

then the non-negotiable sanction comes... docked points. good for them.
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Liverpool winning the game against Newcastle + West Ham scoring a late winner, surely i cant deny the power of bookies tongue.gif
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That would be insane! rclxms.gif

Anyway, whatever happens, at the end of the day, the team with the most points deserves to be crowned champion regardless on how they are bankrolled. I'd say City did what we failed; that's to keep a balance attacking play with some solid backline.

We may critisize Chelsea for parking the bus but the onus is on us to break them and we failed. Against CP, we imploded in 10 min. Our backilne just panicked and lost the plot when CP got 1 back. Also I think we were naive to think that we need to score a lot just to bring down the goal difference. Points first, then look at goal difference. That's inexperience.

It has been a fantastic ride this season. To go from 7th to where we are right now speaks volume to the team and BR's work.

The title race is virtually over but hey.... one more game to go and until the final whistle..........ANYTHING CAN HAPPEN!

YNWA!
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QUOTE(lp16 @ May 8 2014, 10:07 AM)
These are mega rich clubs. Fine them money? No problem. They just dish out a cheque book and that's it. Dock them points are far more effective or even banning them until they follow the rules.

Their sponsorship is so fake. They own the club, they also own whatever companies that can then pump in a lot of money to the club as 'sponsorship'. They have a lot of lawyers that can look for loopholes in whatever regulation set by the governing bodies.
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aYE

If not mistaken they also form companies which buys up their products and call this INCOME! rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(wadefak @ May 8 2014, 10:47 AM)
Liverpool winning the game against Newcastle + West Ham scoring a late winner, surely i cant deny the power of bookies tongue.gif
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Hhaha it would be an ideal snenario.



Not to spoil too much with overoptimism. Both Everton & Aston villa said they will do their best but mCity showed whose the boss.

They have too much talent that even turning up at west ham would almost but guarantee them a point.

Like I said, I take nothing away from what we have achieved, we have been brilliant despite a lean squad.

And to the ManU fans, Chelsea fans or totenham fans who are laughing at our seemingly flattering campaign to the title challenge, I will just smile. We are in champions league next season, to those ManU fans who jibe at us for not being in European stage this season (you know pesky ones who trolled here constantly). Go look at your past ManU posters because you have no European champions league to play next season sweat.gif
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That would be insane! rclxms.gif

Anyway, whatever happens, at the end of the day, the team with the most points deserves to be crowned champion regardless on how they are bankrolled. I'd say City did what we failed; that's to keep a balance attacking play with some solid backline.

We may critisize Chelsea for parking the bus but the onus is on us to break them and we failed. Against CP, we imploded in 10 min. Our backilne just panicked and lost the plot when CP got 1 back. Also I think we were naive to think that we need to score a lot just to bring down the goal difference. Points first, then look at goal difference. That's inexperience.

It has been a fantastic ride this season. To go from 7th to where we are right now speaks volume to the team and BR's work.

The title race is virtually over but hey.... one more game to go and until the final whistle..........ANYTHING CAN HAPPEN!

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any1 watch city match yesterday? city fans singing gerrard slip song.

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no coutinho nor lucas for brazil WC squad
should be blessing in disguise for us
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QUOTE(hifzil @ May 8 2014, 01:28 PM)
any1 watch city match yesterday? city fans singing gerrard slip song.

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let them sing all they want... they bought won the league fair and square

QUOTE(beskut @ May 8 2014, 01:31 PM)
no coutinho nor lucas for brazil WC squad
should be blessing in disguise for us
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lucas probably doesnt deserve it but Couts deserves to be in the squad.. brazil wont win it.
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QUOTE(hifzil @ May 8 2014, 01:28 PM)
any1 watch city match yesterday? city fans singing gerrard slip song.

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QUOTE(hifzil @ May 8 2014, 01:28 PM)
any1 watch city match yesterday? city fans singing gerrard slip song.

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Since world cup thread not out yet my team

Team msia


Goalkeeper- , Mr Fantastic, spiderman

Defenders - Incredible Hulk, the thing, quicksilver, captain america

midfield- black widow, iron man, thor, torch, wolverine, iceman ,beast,

strikers- invisible woman, storm,nightcrawler



OLE OLE OLE! rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif
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QUOTE(prophetjul @ May 8 2014, 02:12 PM)
Since world cup thread not out yet my team

Team msia
Goalkeeper- , Mr Fantastic, spiderman

Defenders - Incredible Hulk, the thing, quicksilver, captain america

midfield- black widow, iron man, thor, torch, wolverine, iceman ,beast,

strikers- invisible woman, storm,nightcrawler
OLE OLE OLE!    rclxm9.gif  rclxm9.gif  rclxm9.gif
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beast should be included in the defender line. capt got the agility that midfield needs biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Mikeshashimi @ May 8 2014, 01:33 PM)
lucas probably doesnt deserve it but Couts deserves to be in the squad.. brazil wont win it.
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My view,
Lucas is quite poor since after return from injury. Even not deserving in Liv starting XI.

Coutinho not consistent enough.
Some matches, look like a good playmaker.
Sometimes, seems like disappear from the match.

Blow hot and cold.
At time, guilty of giving ball away easily.
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My view,
Lucas is quite poor since after return from injury. Even not deserving in Liv starting XI.

Coutinho not consistent enough.
Some matches, look like a good playmaker.
Sometimes, seems like disappear from the match.

Blow hot and cold.
At time, guilty of giving ball away easily.
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I understand that and I do agree.

But world cup isnt so much about consistency as it is about big-game impact.

And couts have that effect.
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So we are going to win against Newcastle, and West Ham score a late winner? As in karma for MCity for taking MU title 2 seasons back? laugh.gif
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Sure or not? Haha

That 1 really on par with Istanbul and when we lost the title in 91?
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Sure or not? Haha

That 1 really on par with Istanbul and when we lost the title in 91?
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QUOTE(reehdus @ May 8 2014, 03:37 PM)
We already had one Istanbul this season...Crystanbul against us sad.gif. I'm hoping against hope West Ham will do us a favour...but we need to get the job done against Newcastle first. I'm really nervous about that one...
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The best WH can do bus parking with 0-0, and a draw which is enough for Mancity already as well.

Mancity most of the time, blowed team away in their home match, and only lose once to Chelsea 1-0 for the entire season.
Expect WH win? If WH win, the westanbul is 10x bigger than istanbul, you need more than miracle for it to happen. biggrin.gif

Nervous?
Almost every match lately, also nervous and nail biting one. Ain't you see Liv fans mostly with clean nail nowadays? laugh.gif

Cardiff, need to sweat, before win 6-3
Norwich, 3-2, nail biting at later stage of the match.
Mancity, leading 2-0, and 2-2, before Kompany mis-kick lead to Coutinho's goal
Crystal Palace, leading 3-0, 10 mins conceded 3 times.
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QUOTE(reehdus @ May 8 2014, 03:37 PM)
We already had one Istanbul this season...Crystanbul against us sad.gif. I'm hoping against hope West Ham will do us a favour...but we need to get the job done against Newcastle first. I'm really nervous about that one...
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Worst case scenario, we lose and Chelsea wins, we go 3rd. It's not the end until the end, but the table could very well turn against us.

Nonetheless, we still achieve our objective of top 4. smile.gif It's been an awesome season to be honest.

1. Watching us play fluid football (improvement needed in defense of course).
2. Challenging for title.
3. Dismantling Spurs, Arsenal, Man Utd and Everton. Taking on Man City and Chelsea head on and giving them a run for their money.
4. Rise of Flanagan, Henderson, and Sterling.

So many other things to sum up this season for our team. We really need to strengthen next year as it is clearly proven that we need some quality replacements for injuries especially Henderson.


PS: And of course, the fall of reigning champions. I'm not celebrating this, but some people really need to learn some humility.
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QUOTE(kenlimfornication @ May 8 2014, 05:10 PM)
Worst case scenario, we lose and Chelsea wins, we go 3rd. It's not the end until the end, but the table could very well turn against us.

Nonetheless, we still achieve our objective of top 4. smile.gif It's been an awesome season to be honest.

1. Watching us play fluid football (improvement needed in defense of course).
2. Challenging for title.
3. Dismantling Spurs, Arsenal, Man Utd and Everton. Taking on Man City and Chelsea head on and giving them a run for their money.
4. Rise of Flanagan, Henderson, and Sterling.

So many other things to sum up this season for our team. We really need to strengthen next year as it is clearly proven that we need some quality replacements for injuries especially Henderson.
PS: And of course, the fall of reigning champions. I'm not celebrating this, but some people really need to learn some humility.
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i believe that some people still haven't learn it properly. still yapping away at our slip at the top laugh.gif

but i do agree with you. this season brought in so much achievement to the club. that being said, it's still too bad that we might not have anything to show for it sad.gif

here's to the coming season, may the team face the new challenge with heads up high flex.gif
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So we are going to win against Newcastle, and West Ham score a late winner? As in karma for MCity for taking MU title 2 seasons back?  laugh.gif
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Really hope so. rclxms.gif

But yeah, seeing as it's against West Ham in Etihad, I can't really see that happening. I'm more nervous against Newcastle. I hope the lads can bounce back from their poor defense display last time and close the league with a win. nod.gif
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QUOTE(vankodoq @ May 8 2014, 05:23 PM)
Really hope so. rclxms.gif

But yeah, seeing as it's against West Ham in Etihad, I can't really see that happening. I'm more nervous against Newcastle. I hope the lads can bounce back from their poor defense display last time and close the league with a win. nod.gif
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Well I guess every Liverpool fans in the world is hoping the same thing.

But TBH, West Ham literally have like 0.1% to win against MCity at Etihad. But still, second or third placing is good enough for me, but title would be a huge huge bonus.
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If its any consolation to those Gerrard's fans,
My opinion of his slip is due to the 'suicide pass' by Sakho.

A teammate that initiates the pass dictates the rhythm, pace & direction of the ball and should be fully cognizant of nearby opponent/s that can pounced on the ball if given the opportunity.

Did Sakho telegraphed to the whole world including Ba that he was going to pass to Gerrard? Gerrard in most likelihood because of his 'age' hurried , slipped to get to the ball ahead of an advancing & younger opponent.

Especially when everyone expects Gerrard to receive a pass.

So that's why I termed it as a suicide pass.

Remember the Wembley FA Cup S-F; Carrick passed to Scholes that was picked by Yaya to score. The rest is history. wink.gif
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Well I guess every Liverpool fans in the world is hoping the same thing.

But TBH, West Ham literally have like 0.1% to win against MCity at Etihad. But still, second or third placing is good enough for me, but title would be a huge huge bonus.
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QUOTE(Mikeshashimi @ May 8 2014, 03:01 PM)
I understand that and I do agree.

But world cup isnt so much about consistency as it is about big-game impact.

And couts have that effect.
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By virtue of his lack of performance this year (not over the past 4 years) perhaps Lucas deserves to be left out due to his lack of form. I certainly think Ramires/Fernandinho is the better defensive midfielder in that sense. Coutinho however I do think shouldn't have been left out. Perhaps he's inferior when compared to Oscar and Willian, but I do think he has that intelligence at splitting defenses with a good pass.
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Aerial Duels Per90 Won/Lost: Skrtel 3.5/1.5, Sakho 2.9/2.3, Agger 2.8/1.4, Toure 2.7/2.6

Possession Wins+Interceptions per 90: Sakho 8.3, Skrtel 6.3, Toure 5.8, Agger 5

Complete Games per Error: Skrtel 11.3, Sakho 7.7, Toure 5.3, Agger 4.7

'Bad Control': Skrtel 3.1, Agger, 3, Toure 1.8, Sakho 1.5

Incomplete own half passes per90: Toure 1.7, Sakho 1.7, Agger 1.6, Skrtel 1.4 

% Passes Forward: Toure 50, Sakho 48, Agger 48, Skr 42

Skrtel top in most "defensive" categories but cautious with passing.  Sakho good passing, elite level for 'recoveries', prone to bad control

Agger not a standout in any particular area with surprisingly high number of errors. Toure clearly 4th out of the 4


Some stats on the 4 LFC CBs this season by Dan Kennett. Interesting hmm.gif
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QUOTE(CityBluePrint @ May 8 2014, 10:21 PM)
If its any consolation to those Gerrard's fans,
My opinion of his slip is due to the 'suicide pass' by Sakho.

A teammate  that initiates the pass dictates the rhythm, pace & direction of the ball and should be fully cognizant of nearby opponent/s  that can pounced on the ball if given the opportunity.

Did Sakho telegraphed to the whole world including Ba that he was going to pass to Gerrard? Gerrard in most likelihood because of his 'age' hurried , slipped to get to the ball ahead of an advancing & younger opponent.

Especially when everyone expects Gerrard to receive a pass.

So that's why I termed it as a suicide pass.

Remember the Wembley FA Cup S-F;  Carrick passed to Scholes that was picked by Yaya to score. The rest is history.  wink.gif
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THIS is a very good point.

ALL balls go through Stevie. Pressure him and hope for a mistake.
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the latest discusion on english football - create a new league for "team B's"

hear that Liverpool are among the clubs that are on board with the idea hmm.gif
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glad to see different teams in cl.
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i humbly think liverpool need 1 more striker , 1 more mid and a couple more defender
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Liverpool needs another first 11 like Chelsea and City! laugh.gif
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http://www.espnfc.com/blog/_/name/tacticsa...id/2964?cc=5739
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"Liverpool paid a combined 55 million pounds for Stewart Downing and Andy Carroll in the hope they would fire them to the title. It's time to deliver, fellas"
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QUOTE(bearbear @ May 9 2014, 10:14 AM)
Still linked with Lallana, Shaqiri, Griezmann, Tello
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"Liverpool paid a combined 55 million pounds for Stewart Downing and Andy Carroll in the hope they would fire them to the title. It's time to deliver, fellas"
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"Liverpool paid a combined 55 million pounds for Stewart Downing and Andy Carroll in the hope they would fire them to the title. It's time to deliver, fellas"
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Both of them won't bother and won't do us a favor.

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Whatever happens this Sunday is a Bonus! Overall am very happy with the season so far being in the 2nd place. Hopefully not 3rd. rolleyes.gif
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Both of them won't bother and won't do us a favor.
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QUOTE(yeelong @ May 9 2014, 10:16 AM)
Tello is good? heard we are offering 8m only??? Shaqiri want to stay another season at germeny.
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He's been forever linked with us. I think BR sorta has a guy crush on him. I think we can and will attract a better crop of players. The only issue is well, money. 100m for the summer? Possible? rclxms.gif It's now or never.
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QUOTE(bitebug @ May 9 2014, 12:29 PM)
He's been forever linked with us. I think BR sorta has a guy crush on him. I think we can and will attract a better crop of players. The only issue is well, money. 100m for the summer? Possible?  rclxms.gif It's now or never.
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Moody, are you joining us bro? Never see your moody face before. biggrin.gif
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wished I could join you guys. blush.gif
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careful.... he's known to have violent moodswings...

wished I could join you guys. blush.gif
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Still linked with Lallana, Shaqiri, Griezmann, Tello
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Airasia, MAS, Firefly, Malindao kan ada. Dun think just come. Dillon will take care the rest. right dillon?
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If not I actually may just fly over. and take leave on Monday. vmad.gif
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QUOTE(Mikeshashimi @ May 9 2014, 02:09 PM)
it's a good thing mother's day is on Sunday.

If not I actually may just fly over. and take leave on Monday.  vmad.gif
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no iffyyyy just dooooooooeeeetttttttt!!!
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no iffyyyy just dooooooooeeeetttttttt!!!
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mother > all

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Both of them won't bother and won't do us a favor.
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bring her over as well. problem solved!
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AHAAHAHHHAAHHA.... rclxms.gif

damn epic la you.... but cant la this time... maybe if champions league final 2015 whistling.gif whistling.gif
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QUOTE(Mikeshashimi @ May 9 2014, 02:22 PM)
AHAAHAHHHAAHHA....  rclxms.gif

damn epic la you.... but cant la this time... maybe if champions league final 2015  whistling.gif  whistling.gif
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finally the gay-ish celebration is memorized in a picture! but clearly shows how well they gel. YNWA

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We're a Family.

People say Gerrard was arrogant coz they claimed he 'celebrated winning the title'... but when I asked for evidence of it, nothing. doh.gif

But Liverpool is special. We stand by our people. unlike some teams who crucify their boss. whistling.gif
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Moody, are you joining us bro? Never see your moody face before. biggrin.gif
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I would like to join but biasalah, my job now require me to go outstation there and here so often  sad.gif . So i can't confirm now.
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Whoa 2 days away also can't confirm? Work on weekends?
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Whoa 2 days away also can't confirm? Work on weekends?
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EDIT : My cuti a day b4 wesak day oso belum approve, wtf doh.gif
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QUOTE(moodswingfella @ May 9 2014, 02:56 PM)
I selalu kena hantar outstation on Fridays and back on Sunday. 'Entertain' client on weekend liao  brows.gif

EDIT : My cuti a day b4 wesak day oso belum approve, wtf  doh.gif
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post May 9 2014, 03:10 PM

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QUOTE(moodswingfella @ May 9 2014, 02:56 PM)
I selalu kena hantar outstation on Fridays and back on Sunday. 'Entertain' client on weekend liao  brows.gif

EDIT : My cuti a day b4 wesak day oso belum approve, wtf  doh.gif
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I wanna be your client also la like that biggrin.gif
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post May 9 2014, 07:16 PM

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It was just a season ago that Jordan Henderson was crucified by fans who thought he was a big waste of greenbacks but this season he certainly has to be one of the most improved players in the league.

The Jordan Henderson factor.

http://anfieldindex.com/8552/henderson-siz...hout-stats.html
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post May 9 2014, 08:23 PM

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The Gathering This Sunday @ Giza Beer Factory

Venue: Beer Factory
Time: 9pm
Participants: (Starting from bottles contributors)

1) Led_zep_freak - 1 bottle
2) Kendotnet - 1 bottle
3) Dillon - 1 bottle
4) Everdying
5) Maranello
6) Yee Long
7) Yee Long's and Mara's Chicks
8) 8sg9ft
9) Sentinel92
10) Danielang
11) Joon Ching
12) Kcmy
13) Koolspyda
14) Super911
15) LilRedRidingHood
16) Isaac Miranda
17) xMika
18) Skywire
19) ParaOptical

Maybe coming: Wts6819, Leftist, Fariq Azad, Dotaallstarz, This Issit
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post May 9 2014, 10:05 PM

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Waaa must be damn nice la sunday night
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post May 9 2014, 11:03 PM

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QUOTE(led_zep_freak @ May 6 2014, 05:07 AM)
One word... naivity.

The most dangerous thing to concede in football with 10 minutes to go is momentum. We didn't need to overcommit at 1-3. Slow down the game, break their momentum. We look jaded at the end and it's not surprising, given the tempo we've played with for the first 80 minutes of the game.

It's a bitter pill, but one we have to swallow if we want to take this team to the next level.

It has been a great season. I started the season just wanting Liverpool to fight for something until the end of season and got more than I asked for. It's heartbreaking, but we're Liverpool... we've been through worst.

Let's round this season up with a home win against Newcastle. Whether we finish first or second, it doesn't matter now. Pressure is on City.

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Nonetheless, we'll hav to wait another looong while b4 winning d league title. Remember Liv. in 2008-2009 season? They got 2nd. The nxt few seasons dat followed was simply disappointing. Although I hope Brendan can rebuild Liverpool and reach d standards of d 1980's, and start winning titles again, d reality is rather harsh as d moneybags (Che and MC) will always hav d best players dat money can buy... cry.gif Getting a constant top 10 placing in d EPL is simply not enough for a great club like Liverpool. sad.gif

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QUOTE(bearbear @ May 9 2014, 10:14 AM)
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QUOTE(ParaOpticaL @ May 9 2014, 08:23 PM)
The Gathering This Sunday @ Giza Beer Factory

Venue: Beer Factory
Time: 9pm
Participants: (Starting from bottles contributors)

1) Led_zep_freak - 1 bottle
2) Kendotnet - 1 bottle
3) Dillon - 1 bottle
4) Everdying
5) Maranello
6) Yee Long
7) Yee Long's and Mara's Chicks
8) 8sg9ft
9) Sentinel92
10) Danielang
11) Joon Ching
12) Kcmy
13) Koolspyda
14) Super911
15) LilRedRidingHood
16) Isaac Miranda
17) xMika
18) Skywire
19) ParaOptical

Maybe coming: Wts6819, Leftist, Fariq Azad, Dotaallstarz, This Issit
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