I'm going to install an outdoor water filter for my new house.Anyone using waterco outdoor filter here? Any recommend?

Was using that before for more than 8 years or so before I changed them after moving house. No problem. Only that the plastic connector at the top cracked due to the sun. Another is that their connectors are slightly bigger in size. So, will need to use the adapter to connect to the water piping.

Kinetico....

This post has been edited by idoblu: May 10 2012, 12:54 PM

bro what model U using it?w250 or w300.is it all waterco model also come with bigger connectors .btw what u using now?haha

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Added on May 10, 2012, 1:49 pmmacam yes ah.where kinetico made?

This post has been edited by suppinfresh: May 10 2012, 01:49 PM

100% fully manufactured and recognized in the USA,

cannot remember if it was w250 or w300.. that was sooooo many years ago... Now using GE..

GE..good ar.?bro how much u brought?got backwash function?any warranty

check here..
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1422735

I have posted the above deal from PureGen back in Dec 2011 - http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/751269/+440#

I have it installed since Feb 2012 and using it until now. Perhaps is time for me to write a small review about Puregen POE water filter (Sand Type).

I bought this PGM942 from Dealmates.com.my for RM599 only, + RM50 for water tank wash. On Feb 2012, 2nd day after I moved in to new house, they came installed the water filter for me. The installation very fast and the installer is very familiar with the installation process. Within 30 mins, everything is done! Next the installer went up and washed the the water tank for me. Even this this new house, the water tank really dirty, full of mud, sand and stone.

Washing in progress:


What I need to do to maintain the water filter is to backwash it every weekend, check out how dirty the water is from Syabas.


Is this filter efficient? How do i know?
See the Drinking water filter photo that i have just taken. See the 1st filter for evidence.
Right after the Puregen water filter installed, i also changed the water filter cartridges. After 3 months, the 1st 0.5 macron filter still clean like new!!!


So based on my real user experience, i strong recommend to get PureGen and i have no doubt of their quality and capability!

cool.thanks for sharing.

If you want small size and with international certified than look at 3m too.

I think will stick to waterco.since kelvyn used for 8year also no problem

3m *mini size.and price not cheap

wow, another puregen user, looking forward for your using experience after 6months - 1 year

For those who interested, Puregen Deal is back !

http://www.madnessdeal.com/PreviewDeal/Pur...ilter/1192.aspx

anyone using KINETICO ? is good?

Why not e-Spring ?

any recommendation for condo use?

you are using puregen as well?

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Added on August 12, 2012, 2:02 amI type kinetico.com.my leads me to http://solartech.com.my


sounds pretty good. price must be at least 3M's range.

their outdoor unit Mach has twin tank, and does not need backwash (10 years warranty)
indoor unit has Macguard, K2, and K5


anyone mind to share their experience with kinetico?




This post has been edited by jtleon: Aug 12 2012, 02:02 AM

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This post has been edited by zheilwane: Oct 10 2016, 09:33 PM

solartech is the local agent for kinetico
it does backwash! the "timer" depends on your water usage.
the timer does not need electricity to run.

mine works well, but then my area water really clean. the backwash water come out also clear 1

This post has been edited by idoblu: Aug 12 2012, 10:48 AM

bac free is good, but expensive

how expensive is bacfree?

Many people asked me, 3M filter is so small, how can it collect so much dirty without backwash? the answer is it has a big surface area to trap dirt. 3M AP902 is using pleated membrane and the membrane is more than 10 times the size of the filter.

Anyone heard of BWT (Best Water Technology, Germany) water filter before? Look like very advance...

Here half of the length of 3M AP902 membrane

hi,

I am a sand filter fixed in my home for abt 7 years now. I need to service it as the water pressure is very slow, even after weekly backwash.
Do anyone has experience or offering service of changing the sand of an existing sand filter? Cld you provide me contacts/advise on how to go about doing this?

Tnk you.

7 years? Perhaps its time to get a new one bro. Outdoor filters ain't that expensive these days.

My experience is that with sand filters, need to change the media (sand) every 3-5 years, depending on the quality of sand. Upgrade to membrane style so no need worry about backwash anymore haha

This is the problem with sand filters. WHen u do the backwash, you c dirty water like cofee/teh tarik coming out, so you think the filter is doing a good job. Actually, dirt and sand has entered our house pipeline and water tank. Try removing one of the tap's aerator and you will c some dirt and sand. The media should be replaced and the filter should b serviced averagely 3 years once to maintain good filtration.



This post has been edited by zheilwane: Sep 18 2012, 08:59 PM

isnt this same with diamond master filter ?



Anyone using Diamond ? is it good? planning to install

what about Nesh?

From the video, they look alike but they are different.
1) 3M is using Pleated Membrane and the max length is 18ft (our video recorded 9ft which is half of the size). While diamond is using Filtron - high-density fibre (most probably 5-6ft only)

2) From Diamond website, their filter could filter upto 10 microns while 3M is 5 microns

3) Not sure about Diamond's warranty but 3M is like lifetime warranty as the product has 1 year warranty, when u replace the cartridge, it will renew the warranty.

4) YOu need to get Diamond's ppl to service it while 3M u can replace the cartridge urself after 370,000 litres of water in less than 10 sec.


This post has been edited by zheilwane: Sep 19 2012, 09:09 AM

No need so hard sell lah, good product and good service will sell by itself.

But this 3M is size so small able to filter our malaysia water? It looks interesting.
How is the warranty for its casing and filter?
I understand that those water filter is not expensive things, probably is below 1k and there are many brands outside. But how good is their material quality always a doubt.
Anyway, how is GE performance? It uses sand filter.
Any difference using steel and those fiber type?

Is not about size, is about material used and build quality.

THere are quite many 3M users here and weikee is one of them. Why is it small? it is using pleated membrane and from the video i posted, u can c the length is 18ft. It would b best if u can drop by my showroom so that i can explain in detail and also difference between 3M and other filters

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Added on September 19, 2012, 3:45 pmThis post has been edited by zheilwane: Sep 19 2012, 03:45 PM

recently, i went up and down to search the outdoor water with by sand filteration. the price that i saw from the range 699 - 1699. Some sales man mentioned that, actually this kind of POE filter has no difference with the brand, the sand inside actually all are the same. Is it true?

not true.

can you explain more and into details?

It is simple, u can check online. Some filter has many layers like
1) Activated carbon
2) Silica Sand
3) Gravel
4) Course sand
5) Zeolite
6) Etc.

U can actually online google each of the media and c the pros and cons. I asked Perfect Steel sales person, why do we need so many layers? He say it is actually gimmicks and the media thatz really does the job is sand. Eg: You have 5 media.
1) Media 1 = FIlter 5 microns
2) Media 2= Filter 7 microns
3) media 3 = Filter 10 microns
4) Media 4 = FIlter 20 microns
5) Media 5 = Reduce Chlorine.

So, do you think it is better to have Media 1 or 2 only rather than all 5?

What brand suitable for outdoor condo, auto cleaning? Thanks.

U can try elken. I use one at my home and it has been 3 years now. Its very good

i dont think auto clean is suitable for condo. Imagine, where will the dirty water go?

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Added on October 19, 2012, 12:08 amBtw, If you are looking for a good water Filter and solar water heater at the same time, u might wanna drop by our SOLAR POWER booth in KLCC (Homedec). Stand a chance to win a samsung galaxy S3 when u purchase SOLAR POWER.

This post has been edited by zheilwane: Oct 19 2012, 12:08 AM

i am using waterco same machine for more then 10 years
can back wash

i just direct drink from water tap after pass another mini water filter

philipcs, is your new house in USJ Heights?

This post has been edited by kamion: Oct 19 2012, 11:47 AM

Nope, @setia alam

anyone can provide me waterco sand replacement contact? need to replace the sand 2-3 years liao.. hehe

03-6145 6000

guys, i am planning to install the outdoor water filter unit in my house. However, looking for the best option....which one is the best type..is it using something like sand filtering method (blondal.hydoguard) or something like cloth/paper filtering method (3M & diamond)...

On the other hand, which one is most less maintainance but safety are still the best!!

Did u consider bacfree?

Hi guys, I just got to know that Waterco only has 2 layers of ZeoPlus filtration as compared to others which has 5 layers of filtration. Does that mean the 5 layers filtration system works better than waterco's dual filtration? The price for waterco filter is slightly more expensive than the fully stainless steel water filter such as PS.

I'm planning to get diamond .....any comment?

Not really good option. The filtration is only 10 micron. Still lot of particle can pass thru. For me find filter 5 micron n below.

Interested in this brand too.. but couldn't find any information in this forum.. very disappointing! This thread mainly occupied by 3M only!?

i'm also hunting for POE filteration system. how about blondal? anyone using it? how much will it cost? Maintenance cost?

I'm lOoking for a POE sand filters with back wash function for my new house. My house is at batu pahat, Johor. Any good dealer for brands like puregen, perfect steel, bacfree can pm me your contact?

There is offer on outdoor water filter under groupon with maybank2u worth RM699 instead of RM1200..any user buy from this retailer before (waterexpress). Interested to buy since it's quite a good deal.
http://www.groupsmore.com/cities/selangor/...s/water-express

[quote=zheilwane,Aug 12 2012, 08:12 AM]
3M is cheap (depending where u r buying it). We are having promotion for 3M water filter, indoor + outdoor water filter for less than RM 2k. This is how small the filter is

Hi sir,

3M maintenance price is costly for me.
can you Pm me the price for Perfect steel POE filter (standard steel) included installation?
and i would like to know the maintenance fee as well.

Area: Klang

I was using Diamond POE filter but after a while the water pressure gets lower which I think is because of the cloth/membrane so I had a stainless steel outdoor sand filter installed 4 years ago. Under my kitchen sink I have a double housing 1 micron PP filter connected to my drinking water dispenser (0.001 micron) and kitchen faucet. Another PP filter is installed for my washing machine.
I paid about RM2100 for the outdoor filter, the PP filters for the kitchen and washing machine and the RO water dispenser. The water dispenser uses Omnipure filters and Filmtec membrane. I think there are USA made.

Maintenance wise, I change/service the outdoor filter every 3 years and it cost me about RM350.00 each time. The PP filter is RM9.00 each, which I change every 3 to 4 months. There are many PP filters in the market some as cheap as RM10.00 for 4 pcs. to RM20.00 per pc. The PP filters that I am using is 140g which is harder. The water dispenser has 3 filters and 1 membrane. the 3 filters need to be changed every year and it cost me RM250 for 3 omnipure filters whereas the membrane is changed every two years at RM240.00. S it works out to be RM 540 per year..

-Please comment if the maintenance cost is acceptable. Should I change the filtration system?

Your set up is the best bro. I think with all the outdoor and PP filter, you can extend the life of your membrane and omnipure filter. Since the water coming to your omnipure unit is already clean. So i suggest you to extend the replacement interval of your membrane and omnipure.

My setup is PP filter (5 micron - dense type like yours) at the main pipe and ceramic filter at the sink for drinking water. Bajet ma.. cost me less than RM50 per year for maintenance. Plan to add activated carbon filter after the ceramic filter to further polish the water quality.

Thank you platinum for your comment. Wont pp filter at the main reduce your water pressure?

Has been using my current PP filter for 2 months already, so far the pressure is still ok, no significant pressure loss. Usually i change the cartridge every 4 months.

want to ask if terrace house if install a membrane outdoor unit and a under sink unit, will effect water pressure? cause my plumber told me pressure will drop. but i really need a water filter system as USJ water are quite dirty.

Here's mine. Drinkstar for my JB house. About $1.8k RM for outdoor (shown below) + indoor filter + hot/cold water dispenser. Also washed my water tank (paid $50 RM) which also had sand and rust in it after reading the recommendation here. I quite like it except for the PVC piping from the main tap outside to this unit, as I'm afraid PVC piping may crack.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/hd8lbklwwq2egjd/2...%2014.04.02.jpg

This post has been edited by BTimes: Mar 18 2013, 07:21 AM

At least the installer or metal valve for you. Pvc battle when exposed to sun light for long will leak.

Pvc pipe won't crack so easy of it left untouched.

I am eying Alphamax now. Any user review here?

diamond & Nesh outdoor. which one better? Pls advise?

Alphamax is OEM by Perfect Steel. If u read previous post, most Alphamax salesperson will say their media no nd to change which is not true. If you are eying on Alphamax u can get Perfect Steel from us at a better price

Mind to further elaborate for this statement?

Kinetico media no need to change for at least 5-10 years and with auto back wash, rm3k good buy?

$3k is v expensive. Good to change bed every few years.

checked kinetico website, they have two tanks no wonder the media can last 5 years but i doubt can last til 10 years. Normal sand filters can last 3-4 years. However, most sand filters can filter max 5 microns but kinetico has 3 microns which is better. Since it is a media developed in conjunction with 3M, i guess that would b possible

Hi,
most of the review here is talking about sand filters,anybody using outdoors filters Livewell from Waterfilter. from the website it says that they are using ultrasorb media(somekind of ceramic material). ANybody have any experianced with this type of filters??

Hi,

The material (Ultrasorb) is imported from Taiwan with reducing non-solid elements capacity. visit our site for more information http://www.waterfiltermalaysia.com.my


Ps: Frankly advice, Kinetico is another good brand to own comparing others, because they also don't over claimed & they are famous with their auto valve.

Note: I am not promoting them nor any business related with them. It is only a genuine advice from my personal experience.

Currently i using Nesh Water Filter. Think wanna change for under mount sink water filter & purchase outdoor water filter later. What i need to do if wanna change under mount sink water filter? Can recommend which one better? Is it costly maintenance fee?

This post has been edited by petlu28: Jun 18 2013, 01:28 PM

Any user can comment thed BACfree outdoor filter and indoor filter?

wow it look like all of the user here is investing quite alot in their outdoor filter, any recommendation on value of money outdoor filter which is less than rm 1k plus installation which can find alot in leong website? mind to share.

hi all...

how about hydro1 ??
i was quoted RM1400 with installation and free timer controller....

is this filter good ahh???

hi all...

how about hydro1 ??
i was quoted RM1400 with installation and free timer controller....

is this filter good ahh??? its sirim approved..

http://www.hydro1.com.my/index.php?option=...roduct&Itemid=4

uh membrane or sand (media) filter ? just saw their internal filter.. cheapest cost apparently

Just get the 3M that zheilwane selling.

This one is good: http://www.drinkstar.com.my/index.php?rout...nformation_id=7

I am using the Hydro1 for a year, so far so good. Since it it using membrane filter, the maintenance cost is cheap. I been told that the cost will be ~RM500 for every 3-5 years.

How about this ? Was quite tempting since its almost the same price as 3M but 0.01 micron.

http://www.lelong.com.my/water-filter-uf-m...3-03-Sale-P.htm

+1

I don't no what kind of filter is this. You can try it.

A simple 3M filter will do for me. Better than anything.

PM me the price for Perfect Steel. Thanks

Is any one try out this , my location is in jb but my water pipe for outdoor filter is ready fOr the connection
It look cheap but dont know how is the quality

http://malaysiawaterfilter.com.my/index.ph...&id=125:plan-20

I'm thinking of getting diamond Poe, most forumer will say no good cos water pressure drop better use sand type. But logically if pressure drop means it is working n doing wat its suppose to do right.

diamond no backwash. the longer u use the more the sendiment is collected or stuck in the filter. u need to get their ppl come to take out the filter n clean it for u. correct me if i am wrong cos that what i understand frm researching about poe filter

I got this for RM890.00 with standard installation. Better than the Diamond POE filter

Wow, that's cheap

we installed 3 units between my relatives & friends. That is why cheap la

May i know how much maintenance for 3M outdoor filter?

Any filter requires a change in medium after some time. The higher the filtration power, the faster you need to change because more impurities will be trapped. POE filter with manual backwash is good for me at the moment. If I need to drink the water, I will boil it.

This new POEfilter made the PP filters redundant and my water dispenser internal filters last longer. The cost to replace the UF membrane for this new POE filter is RM385.00 every 2 years. I would think that my overall maintenance would very much reduced compared to using the sand type filter.

I use diamond outdoor & indoor filter. The outdoor filter do have have backwash capability and I do monthly backwash & call diamond guy to take out the filter for full cleaning every 6 months. I have to tell you that even after monthly backwash, you'll be surprise to see the amount of dirt trapped during the 6 months full cleaning (manually take out and jet wash the filter). I think any water filter system can do a good job, so long as you do the proper maintenance. I don't really feel the water pressure is affected, even just before the full half yearly cleaning.

i use nesh indoor and outdoor filtration. Quite satisfied...

I get this at RM 1200 with auto timer backwash. The supplier also do wash my water tangki RM 170 and One unit 6 filter indoor drinking water RM 420. Total RM 1790. Have been using this for 2yrs now and recently climb out the ceiling to see the water in tangki still very clean since installed the Water filter. Anyone interested I can give you guys him no.

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May I know what is the brand of this filter? Have you survey on 3M products before?