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post Aug 3 2011, 06:56 PM

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QUOTE(theCrab @ Aug 3 2011, 12:39 AM)
he wrote before..
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post Aug 3 2011, 06:59 PM

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alpha, very impressive and you are natural bber thumbup.gif ... are you naturally muscular before you bodybuilding ? ....
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post Aug 3 2011, 07:00 PM

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QUOTE(mrPOTATO @ Aug 3 2011, 01:49 PM)
Why are guys who train heavy & are strong not big ..? Is something lacking in the training ?
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QUOTE(Alphaproject @ Aug 3 2011, 03:25 PM)
simple, big dosen't equal to strong and vice versa... As Bob (Cicherillo) says, "it's not how much you lift, its how much you look like you can lift"
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QUOTE(Vbs @ Aug 3 2011, 03:38 PM)
Because their programs are not hypertrophy-specific. They will eventually get huge, but it takes a longer time than bodybuilders.
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QUOTE(raynx @ Aug 3 2011, 04:31 PM)
some prefer to be small yet strong! takda duit beli baju byk2. haha!
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QUOTE(ijnek @ Aug 3 2011, 05:05 PM)
body building and strength building are different...
i think hoxy is a good example of strength building
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I know I'm small la.... haha, damn it.

Some people want to get big, some people not. I dont want to get big, my wife also dont want me to get big. Bodybuilding and strength training is a two different things.

Somemore, I have a lot of fun conquering difficult bodyweight exercise. The feel of conquering own body is priceless. There is no way I'm going to tackle it with my current strength level with heavier weights (eg. 80kg, 90kg, 100kg going up), it never going to happen.

Also, I can aim to be in the intermediate/advance level faster when I do weight lifting with my small size since the strength standard also is a weightLifted-bodyWeight ratio kind of standard.

People in bodybuilding will say to people in strength training... you are small.

People in strength training will say to people in bodybuilding... your lift is not as heavy as it should be with your size.

And then, there will be war and hate between those 2 camps.

Urm, to sum it up... I'm on strength training, I want to get strong. I'll grow as I got stronger, if my weight remains as I get stronger... that is even better. And yeah, I think I dont get big because I dont watch my diet to get my calorie up. I have more money to buy more tools to get me stronger as oppose more food to get me bigger.

So yeah... I have a different goal. Somemore, getting strong first then get bigger as it happens means that I'm not stressing my body (tendon, ligament, etc2) so much. Think of it as giving time to those precious little things to slowly adapt, and a way of somehow avoiding injury. Think of doing one arm negative with my current strength, with 2 version of me with heavier body weight and lower body weight. My muscle might able to avoid injury, but the tendon, ligament, how? I have far greater chances of getting injured even if I'm weighing 65kg as oppose to 52kg (25% increase of body weight). I just need to watch out not to overdo myself... then I will proceed to getting stronger, faster and safer.

Different style of training, different result, different people different goals. All of us need to understand this circumstances.

Since I'm on fasting due to Ramadhan I am relatively weaker by the end of the day. But due to my smaller size and probably lower calorie maintainence... I am still to perform a one arm negative chin up... with a new record in hand, with no sign of pain felt on my right side. Strength training and being small has its benefit, and it brings me great satisfaction choosing to be in these training method. This is today picture at around 6:55pm. A 17/18second one arm chin up negative, if I do that now when I'm 65kg, I dont know what will happen. To understand how hard that is, just go do two hand chin up... it is a real slow descend. Being small has it benefits.

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post Aug 3 2011, 08:42 PM

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QUOTE(hoxy @ Aug 3 2011, 07:00 PM)

Since I'm on fasting due to Ramadhan I am relatively weaker by the end of the day. But due to my smaller size and probably lower calorie maintainence... I am still to perform a one arm negative chin up... with a new record in hand, with no sign of pain felt on my right side. Strength training and being small has its benefit, and it brings me great satisfaction choosing to be in these training method. This is today picture at around 6:55pm. A 17/18second one arm chin up negative, if I do that now when I'm 65kg, I dont know what will happen. To understand how hard that is, just go do two hand chin up... it is a real slow descend. Being small has it benefits.

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That is some real good shit right there man.With my body weight , use two hands also the negative dam hard.
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You are doing it full 17sec? You are a 100kg big man, of course it is hard even if it is two hand. That is a cool feat also. Imagine your strength with a 50kg body weight (mine is 52kg) and you will be showing picture like mine also. Strength-BodyWeight ratio rule.

Thanks for the acknowledgment, I take it as a fuel to move forward. To have the strength of a bigger man in a smaller body... that is a nice goal. Nothing is wrong with that.

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post Aug 3 2011, 09:32 PM

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Hoxy, pls pardon me if i sound like insinuating u, respect u for yr strength actually. Maybe i shld come out & admit that i'm the small guy referred to. Stronger than some bigger people but not big as i want to considering the amount of huffing & puffing i've put in.. blush.gif

QUOTE(kaspersky-fan @ Aug 3 2011, 03:03 PM)
Not eating enough?
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Got .. got slight tummy & cutting back on calories now..

QUOTE(Alphaproject @ Aug 3 2011, 03:25 PM)
simple, big dosen't equal to strong and vice versa... As Bob (Cicherillo) says, "it's not how much you lift, its how much you look like you can lift"
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I guess i don't look like how much i can lift haha.. which is sad cos i wanna b bigger, but instead the rate i'm growing is slowing down.

QUOTE(Vbs @ Aug 3 2011, 03:38 PM)
Because their programs are not hypertrophy-specific. They will eventually get huge, but it takes a longer time than bodybuilders.
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Thanks for the lead, i'll look into hst closely.

QUOTE(ijnek @ Aug 3 2011, 05:05 PM)
body building and strength building are different...
i think hoxy is a good example of strength building
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Well, hoxy u already got the strength + shape, and size is not yr priority, so i guess yor happy enough already..


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Ok it is just a confusion. I was particularly not angry or pissed off but felt weird on the issue in particular and automatically assume I'm the subject and felt ever weirder.

If you want to get big, just eat more frequently, increase your calorie intake. 5~6 meals. If still not getting bigger, increase your calorie intake again, means each meals calorie need to increase. Repeat increasing your calorie intake until you become bigger.

Increase your sets.
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QUOTE(hoxy @ Aug 3 2011, 08:53 PM)
You are doing it full 17sec? You are a 100kg big man, of course it is hard even if it is two hand. That is a cool feat also. Imagine your strength with a 50kg body weight (mine is 52kg) and you will be showing picture like mine also. Strength-BodyWeight ratio rule.

Thanks for the acknowledgment, I take it as a fuel to move forward. To have the strength of a bigger man in a smaller body... that is a nice goal. Nothing is wrong with that.
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nolah , 17 secs crazy la.i mean its damn hard for me to do real sloooow negatives for pull ups , with both hands..basically my body weight exercises need to improve lot la.dips , pull ups, chin ups and all.
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Hoxy, how tall are you? I am at the moment trying to compact myself even more. I am now 56.5kg. today managed to do lat pulldown 100lbs per side on the hammerstrength machine (the machine that u'd hv to load the weight plates manually)

my aim is to be like u! A lot more cutting to do :s
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QUOTE(hoxy @ Aug 3 2011, 08:53 PM)
You are doing it full 17sec? You are a 100kg big man, of course it is hard even if it is two hand. That is a cool feat also. Imagine your strength with a 50kg body weight (mine is 52kg) and you will be showing picture like mine also. Strength-BodyWeight ratio rule.

Thanks for the acknowledgment, I take it as a fuel to move forward. To have the strength of a bigger man in a smaller body... that is a nice goal. Nothing is wrong with that.
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Hoxy
I am weight at 82 kg(carrying ltos of excess fat flabby) and still shooting up as i am bulking
do you have any idea/advise to improve my pull ups number?
the best i think i can do is 2 pull ups..
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post Aug 4 2011, 12:11 AM

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guys. anyway to lose belly fat besides cardio ?
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post Aug 4 2011, 12:15 AM

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QUOTE(shenshenshen @ Aug 4 2011, 12:11 AM)
guys. anyway to lose belly fat besides cardio ?
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sorry to say this, but no. check out the six pack abs thread and watch the video for more explaination. smile.gif
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i did a lot of stuff in gym man....somehow the belly fats doesnt seem to decrease...haihz something wrong with me....i am an easy gainer anyways....i watch my diet already for the past year...still got belly fat......muscles got bigger....but with rounded feature no cutting...sad....

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post Aug 4 2011, 01:00 AM

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I guess by controlling diet and maintaining your weight training routine will decrease ur BF%.... but damn slow...
I don't do cardio, only control diet and lift weights.... BF% from 24.7 to 22.7 in a month
damn slow la
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Oh well i haven't posted shit in here for the longest time.. Works been riding up my ass.

well, after um-teen months i did manage to get some progress pic. here they are. 82 kg with 12-13 % bodyfat i believe. maybe more. diet starting october. target weight is 85, hopefully. smile.gif

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Since someone asked

animal pack
whey gold standard
creatine
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super pump

5 meals a day

insulin after workout

something something tongue.gif

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QUOTE(moe81 @ Aug 4 2011, 01:34 AM)
Oh well i haven't posted shit in here for the longest time.. Works been riding up my ass.

well, after um-teen months i did manage to get some progress pic. here they are. 82 kg with 12-13 % bodyfat i believe. maybe more. diet starting october. target weight is 85, hopefully. smile.gif

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looking massive !
hows your training like ?

p/s:nice shoulder/tatoo
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QUOTE(moe81 @ Aug 4 2011, 02:34 AM)
Oh well i haven't posted shit in here for the longest time.. Works been riding up my ass.

well, after um-teen months i did manage to get some progress pic. here they are. 82 kg with 12-13 % bodyfat i believe. maybe more. diet starting october. target weight is 85, hopefully. smile.gif

user posted image

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damn ur tattoo really rox!!!!!!!
damn nice...
btw...
nice chest shape...
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tigers on the left, komodos on the chest. nice


Added on August 4, 2011, 2:34 ambro you eat a lot ? damn buff la you

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QUOTE(shenshenshen @ Aug 4 2011, 12:11 AM)
guys. anyway to lose belly fat besides cardio ?
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Liposuction? Ahahahaha
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QUOTE(emino @ Aug 4 2011, 04:52 AM)
Liposuction? Ahahahaha
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nice idea bro but nah , not a man's way to do it flex.gif spend more on tastier healthier food better

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