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post Mar 18 2011, 11:17 PM, updated 15y ago

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V7. Please continue your discussion here.

V1 : http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1642831
V2 : http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1663020
V3 : http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1693310
V4 : http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1728204
V5 : http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1755484
V7 : http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1778171

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How to differentiate AP and NIKON MALAYSIA warranty set.

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The wording NIKON MALAYSIA SDN. BHD on the warranty card is the best way to identify whether it's a genuine local set. smile.gif

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Upcoming event

Nikon Malaysia 10th Anniversary
Date: 31/3 to 3/4 2011
Venue: Hall 3, Mid Valley Exhibition Centre, Level 3
Opening Hour: 31/3 2pm to 9pm
1/4 to 3/4 11am to 9pm

event highlights
featuring full range of DSLR, coolpixs and accessories
exhibition of iconic nikon cameras (NASA cameras will be here too)
NPS section
photography talks
model shooting photography contest
launch of nikon club
photo exhibition
complimentary sensor cleaning
special 10th anniversary premiums
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If you are a Nikon user, now you can register for a FREE *membership of the Nikon Club Malaysia by logging on to www.nikonclub.com.my (available from 11 April 2011) to enjoy the photo talks, seminars, workshops, photo trips, posting of images in the gallery, exhibitions, critics to save your shots, contests, products news, members feedbacks and comments, technical information and support, advice on repair service, and much more.

This club is open to all Nikon users including any collectors, photo enthusiasts, hobbyists, serious amateurs, and professionals. Members will have the opportunity to exchange ideas, share their passions of photography among the same users who understands and uses Nikon range of products extensively.

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QUOTE(ezrasang @ Dec 1 2010, 10:06 AM)
Nobody answer? Nevermind, I will use my experiences and tell you. So if anyone would like to add further details or do some corrections, please do so  laugh.gif

Firstly, check the outlook for both Body and Lens, if you're happy with it, then proceed to the next stepsssss.  cool2.gif

For the Body:
1. check the Shutter Count, the lower the SC, the better it is, just like a car's milage. Google has a clearer explanation.
2. if the Body has motor and top LCD, make sure they both work well, it's sux if the motor doesn't work, it's sux if the top LCD can't light up.
3. test the Body with various memory cards, you don't want to have error while shooting, don't you? (sometimes it's the memory card that give trouble)
4. test Continuous shoot, will the shutter jam?  rclxub.gif
5. basically you'll have to test everything, every single functions and settings of the body, like ISO, pop-up flash, the condition of hot shoe, the buttons etc etc

As for the lens:
1. it's important that the rubber is still firm.
2. make sure it works on more than ONE Bodies.
3. play with aperture, the zoom if it has, play with it like a toy.
4. if the lens got dust and fungus inside, you can send it for cleaning.
5. if the contact points are dirty, gently use eraser to clean it.
6. if the lens is AF-S, make sure the motor inside is silent while auto focusing, no loud squeaky sound.

what else?  hmm.gif  hmm.gif

Remember, these are based on my personal experiences, correct me if I'm wrong  notworthy.gif
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Ken Rockwell facts !

Ken Rockwell is the Chuck Norris of photography

Ken Rockwell's camera has similar settings to ours, except his are: P[erfect] Av[Awesome Priority Tv[Totally Awesome Priority] M[ajestic]

Ken Rockwell doesn't color correct. He adjusts your world to match his.

Sure, Ken Rockwell deletes a bad photo or two. Other people call these Pulitzers.

Ken Rockwell doesn't adjust his DOF, he changes space-time.

Circle of confusion? You might be confused. Ken Rockwell never is.

Ken Rockwell doesn't wait for the light when he shoots a landscape - the light waits for him.

Ken Rockwell never flips his camera in portrait position, he flips the earth

Ken Rockwell ordered an L-lens from Nikon, and got one.

Ken Rockwell is the only person to have photographed Jesus; unfortunately he ran out of film and had to use a piece of cloth instead.

When Ken Rockwell brackets a shot, the three versions of the photo win first place in three different categories

Before Nikon or Canon releases a camera they go to Ken and they ask him to test them, the best cameras get a Nikon sticker and the less good get a Canon sticker

Once Ken tested a camera, he said I cant even put Canon on this one,thats how Pentax was born

Rockwellian policy isn't doublethink - Ken doesn't even need to think once

Ken Rockwell doesn't use flash ever since the Nagasaki incident.

Only Ken Rockwell can take pictures of Ken Rockwell; everyone else would just get their film overexposed by the light of his genius

Ken Rockwell wanted something to distract the lesser photographers, and lo, there were ducks.

Ken Rockwell is the only one who can take self-portraits of you

Ken Rockwell's nudes were fully clothed at the time of exposure

Ken Rockwell once designed a zoom lens. You know it as the Hubble SpaceTelescope.

When Ken unpacks his CF card, it already has masterpieces on it.

Rockwell portraits are so lifelike, they have to pay taxes

On Ken Rockwell's desktop, the Trash Icon is really a link to National Geographic Magazine

Ken Rockwell spells point-and-shoot "h-a-s-s-e-l-b-l-a-d"

When Ken Rockwell went digital, National Geographic nearly went out of business because he was no longer phyically discarding photos

For every 10 shots that Ken Rockwell takes, 11 are keepers.

Ken Rockwell's digital files consist of 0's, 1's AND 2's.

Ken Rockwell never focus, everything moves into his DoF

Ken Rockwell's shots are so perfect, Adobe redesigned photoshop for him: all it consists of is a close button.

The term tripod was coined after his silhouette

Ken Rockwell never produces awful work, only work too advanced for the viewer

A certain braind of hig-end cameras was named after people noticed the quality was a lot "like a" rockwell

Ken Rockwell isn't the Chuck Norris of photography; Chuck Norris is the Ken Rockwell of martial arts.

Ken Rockwell never starts, he continues
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post Mar 18 2011, 11:26 PM

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actually both oso on par oso. but from my eyes, D700 better
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post Mar 18 2011, 11:26 PM

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However Whoever been to Putrajaya this morning for the balloon fiesta, anything to share? unsure.gif

Edit: Typo doh.gif

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QUOTE(Tony Stark @ Mar 18 2011, 11:26 PM)
actually both oso on par oso. but from my eyes, D700 better
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Not sure but to me, ISO 3200 on D700 already got noise. tongue.gif

QUOTE(vearn27 @ Mar 18 2011, 11:26 PM)
However been to Putrajaya this morning for the balloon fiesta, anything to share? unsure.gif
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I'm waiting for photos as well. hmm.gif
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erm... google see got this year balloon or not haha laugh.gif
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QUOTE(KTCY @ Mar 18 2011, 11:32 PM)
Not sure but to me, ISO 3200 on D700 already got noise. tongue.gif
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same2 oso..i own both ma laugh.gif last time i did a comparison here. really cant notice the diff unless one pixel peeps wink.gif
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post Mar 18 2011, 11:40 PM

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sky so hazy today, dunno got nice pics or nt
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post Mar 19 2011, 12:12 AM

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Izzit just me or others experience the same problem too? Chrome's extension Show EXIF (Show EXIF) doesn't work for me anymore unsure.gif

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Woah new thread brows.gif

Sadly I'm at Kelantan, can't go to the Hot Air Balloon festival. Waiting for you guys to post some pics biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(celciuz @ Mar 19 2011, 12:12 AM)
Anybody attending that MSI Idol finals tomorrow?
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Where isit? Nvm found it smile.gif

http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=131602760244001

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Any one going to putra jaya tml? smile.gif
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Guys enjoy shooting ya !

I have to attend fund raising for Japan at Time Square. Hope if anyone of you got come to Time Square , please give us a support . Thanks you.

Donate if you can, RM1 also can , RM0.10 also can. Donate how many does not matter , the most important is your heart that caring. =)

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Anyone shooting moon tomorrow ?
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post Mar 19 2011, 01:48 AM

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anyone going to the CIMB SQUASH KL OPEN 2011?
berjaya times square
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QUOTE(C_Sagi @ Mar 19 2011, 01:09 AM)
Anyone shooting moon tomorrow ?
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At wat o'clock?
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Who is going for the hot air balloon again? I might be going in the morning.
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post Mar 19 2011, 02:24 AM

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QUOTE(edwardgsk @ Mar 19 2011, 02:22 AM)
Who is going for the hot air balloon again? I might be going in the morning.
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Me Me Me!!!!!

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QUOTE(weirdo88 @ Mar 19 2011, 02:24 AM)
Me Me Me!!!!!
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I will be there from 8am onwards, if 7am reach there also can't see much I think. So dark still laugh.gif

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QUOTE(KTCY @ Mar 18 2011, 11:32 PM)
Not sure but to me, ISO 3200 on D700 already got noise. tongue.gif
I'm waiting for photos as well. hmm.gif
I find the "noise" as in fine grain in the D700 not as disturbing as chroma noise.

QUOTE(ifer @ Mar 19 2011, 01:48 AM)
anyone going to the CIMB SQUASH KL OPEN 2011?
berjaya times square
saturday is semi final
sunday is final
Always wanted to do this but you need a press pass to be able to get close to the action.


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QUOTE(C_Sagi @ Mar 18 2011, 04:33 PM)
Lol, np.  thumbup.gif  When getting ? biggrin.gif
Oh, just now only. rclxm9.gif

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QUOTE(jchue73 @ Mar 19 2011, 03:13 AM)
I find the "noise" as in fine grain in the D700 not as disturbing as chroma noise. 
Always wanted to do this but you need a press pass to be able to get close to the action.


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Oh, just now only.  rclxm9.gif
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QUOTE(ryanso85 @ Mar 18 2011, 09:13 PM)
guys, is in-camera high iso noise reduction going to affect the RAW? i got mixed info from internet, hope u guys can highlight me
What software are you using to PP?

If you're shooting NEF / RAW, there is no difference on the high ISO noise reduction setting because you can always change it to whatever setting if you're using Nikon software like Capture NX or View NX.

If you're using other 3rd party softwares like Lightroom or Photoshop, the only parameter that is recognised from the NEF / RAW file is the camera white balance. Other infos are all ignored.

The high iso reduction setting only affects if you're shooting JPG. Of course if you shoot NEF / RAW only and view the NEF / RAW files from the camera LCD screen, your camera actually views the JPG file that is imbedded in the NEF / RAW file. So that JPG file (embedded in the NEF / RAW) that you are viewing is affected.

QUOTE(KTCY @ Mar 18 2011, 09:19 PM)
To me, 5dMKII noise control better. idk. Just feel so.
Canon's noise reduction tends to make subjects look plasticky. To some people's eyes they look clean and better but I prefer a natural look.
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will be there noon around 5. anyone going?
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QUOTE(scotty @ Mar 19 2011, 05:20 AM)
will be there noon around 5. anyone going?
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QUOTE(ifer @ Mar 19 2011, 01:48 AM)
anyone going to the CIMB SQUASH KL OPEN 2011?
berjaya times square
saturday is semi final
sunday is final
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i wanted to go friday to shoot from the front.
in the end started raining, and delia arnold also got knocked out earlier tongue.gif
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QUOTE(faareast @ Mar 19 2011, 09:41 AM)
super moon: Bermula Sabtu 8.00 pm AEDT, penuh pada Ahad 5.10 am AEDT


Added on March 19, 2011, 10:03 amAEDT = Australian Eastern Day Time
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What is supermoon may I ask ??
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Sharing some pictures of new collection; please ignore the background sweat.gif

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Sharing some pictures of new collection; please ignore the background  sweat.gif

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car looks detailed laugh.gif
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Guys,

Need some help here. Why when shooting, the shutter sound like "chap ..... chak" instead of "chap-chak"? The " ..... " indicates some delay like 1 second?

Even I use high speed shutter, it still behaves the same. I wonder if this is normal? I'm not really familiar with my DSLR yet.
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QUOTE(vearn27 @ Mar 19 2011, 11:56 AM)
Guys,

Need some help here. Why when shooting, the shutter sound like "chap ..... chak" instead of "chap-chak"? The " ..... " indicates some delay like 1 second?

Even I use high speed shutter, it still behaves the same. I wonder if this is normal? I'm not really familiar with my DSLR yet.
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that mean long shutter? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(vearn27 @ Mar 19 2011, 11:56 AM)
Guys,

Need some help here. Why when shooting, the shutter sound like "chap ..... chak" instead of "chap-chak"? The " ..... " indicates some delay like 1 second?

Even I use high speed shutter, it still behaves the same. I wonder if this is normal? I'm not really familiar with my DSLR yet.
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Are you on "Quiet" mode?

How fast shutter you use?
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QUOTE(fcuk90 @ Mar 19 2011, 12:03 PM)
that mean long shutter? hmm.gif
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No. I tried fastest at 1/8000 also the same.

QUOTE(Andy214 @ Mar 19 2011, 12:06 PM)
Are you on "Quiet" mode?

How fast shutter you use?
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Nope. I'm not using "Quiet" mode. I suppose the "chap-chak" is like a swift thing, but mine is "chap ..... chak". I wonder if this is normal or something I configured? Won't be body fault gua...
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QUOTE(vearn27 @ Mar 19 2011, 12:14 PM)
No. I tried fastest at 1/8000 also the same.
Nope. I'm not using "Quiet" mode. I suppose the "chap-chak" is like a swift thing, but mine is "chap ..... chak". I wonder if this is normal or something I configured? Won't be body fault gua...
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Check your Exposure Delay mode settings. If you turn it on, there will be delay about 1s.
It's under Shooting/Display settings.

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or the timer?
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5pm in putrajaya today. anyone?

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QUOTE(Andy214 @ Mar 19 2011, 12:42 PM)
Check your Exposure Delay mode settings. If you turn it on, there will be delay about 1s.
It's under Shooting/Display settings.
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what is that sweat.gif got the function since old model? unsure.gif
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QUOTE(Andy214 @ Mar 19 2011, 12:42 PM)
Check your Exposure Delay mode settings. If you turn it on, there will be delay about 1s.
It's under Shooting/Display settings.
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Thanks for it, Andy214 biggrin.gif

After I turned it OFF, the shutter goes back to "chap-chak" swiftly. This setting is to enable/disable the delay in shutter release to reduce vibration in extreme cases where slight movement will cause blurring.
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QUOTE(vearn27 @ Mar 19 2011, 02:30 PM)
Thanks for it, Andy214 biggrin.gif

After I turned it OFF, the shutter goes back to "chap-chak" swiftly. This setting is to enable/disable the delay in shutter release to reduce vibration in extreme cases where slight movement will cause blurring.
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oh really? can shot the comparison too? biggrin.gif never heard this before...since when/which model got this?
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QUOTE(scotty @ Mar 19 2011, 01:28 PM)
5pm in putrajaya today. anyone?
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might go if the weather allowed..

QUOTE(Agito666 @ Mar 19 2011, 02:31 PM)
oh really? can shot the comparison too?  biggrin.gif  never heard this before...since when/which model got this?
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my D90 got..other not sure..
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QUOTE(noobie1 @ Mar 19 2011, 02:42 PM)
might go if the weather allowed..
my D90 got..other not sure..
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pm me your contact boss smile.gif finally someone accompany me go smile.gif
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QUOTE(scotty @ Mar 19 2011, 02:47 PM)
pm me your contact boss smile.gif finally someone accompany me go smile.gif
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maybe will go there ...spam some picture please
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QUOTE(fcuk90 @ Mar 19 2011, 03:06 PM)
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pm me also. more the merrier

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QUOTE(scotty @ Mar 19 2011, 03:11 PM)
pm me also. more the merrier
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i tomorrow. around afternoon i think.
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any place to take picture tonight? for the moon things?
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Long time no spam otaku photos here  tongue.gif
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i rather you spam JAV photos here laugh.gif but still "otaku" stuff what whistling.gif drool.gif

okay kidding... saw friend's facebook got hot balloon photos duno wan link here or not...seems not so nice compare last years...wait i m not sure is that ballon for shooting or for riding one...i saw is for riding one... unsure.gif
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QUOTE(Agito666 @ Mar 19 2011, 03:50 PM)
i rather you spam JAV photos here  laugh.gif  but still "otaku" stuff what  whistling.gif  drool.gif

okay kidding... saw friend's facebook got hot balloon photos duno wan link here or not...seems not so nice compare last years...wait i m not sure is that ballon for shooting or for riding one...i saw is for riding one... unsure.gif
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Anyone willing to spare some time to share some quick guides and quick tips on how to use Adobe Lightroom? smile.gif
import picture, select picture, go to develop tab, start playing with the settings there smile.gif

next, search for some lightroom presets. apply to your picture and further adjust/tweak the settings smile.gif
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import picture, select picture, go to develop tab, start playing with the settings there smile.gif

next, search for some lightroom presets. apply to your picture and further adjust/tweak the settings smile.gif
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When we import picture and develop, Adobe Lightroom will not create another copy nor amend the original file, izzit?

It'll just save the file location and the settings in database, only when we export it'll then generate the file.

Please do correct me if I'm wrong.
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When we import picture and develop, Adobe Lightroom will not create another copy nor amend the original file, izzit?

It'll just save the file location and the settings in database, only when we export it'll then generate the file.

Please do correct me if I'm wrong.
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i wanted to go friday to shoot from the front.
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hi guys,

actually now im interested with videography as well,
so is it advisable to upgrade to d90 from my current d60?

how many loves recording with dslr?

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Hi guys, I just noticed there's a line going down vertically from my focusing box. If the focus box is on the left then the line goes horizontally left same goes with the right side..
Anyone notice this or there's some defect on mine? the line will only appear once the camera is switched on and with the focus box.
btw, i notice this after getting my camera back from Nikon for servicing..
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QUOTE(ifer @ Mar 19 2011, 05:14 PM)
eh i was there on friday (yesterday)
i go talk to the astro video guy and he let me in to the photographers/videographers section. lol
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QUOTE(den @ Mar 19 2011, 05:24 PM)
hi guys,

actually now im interested with videography as well,
so is it advisable to upgrade to d90 from my current d60?

how many loves recording with dslr?
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Why not go for D7000? Got Full HD, bigger megapixel camera (compared to D90), magnesium alloy body.

I'm still new to videography.
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just slide until u like it tongue.gif


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hi guys,

actually now im interested with videography as well,
so is it advisable to upgrade to d90 from my current d60?

how many loves recording with dslr?
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QUOTE(den @ Mar 19 2011, 05:24 PM)
hi guys,

actually now im interested with videography as well,
so is it advisable to upgrade to d90 from my current d60?

how many loves recording with dslr?
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Not recommended, better go for D3100 or D7000, because D90 can't AF while recording and the focusing speed on Live View also slow. Best of all, D3100 and D7000 are Full HD.

Me me, I love doing recording, hate it that D90 can't AF while recording. Now thinking to go for D7k after using D90 for 1 month hmm.gif
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QUOTE(ezrasang @ Mar 19 2011, 06:47 PM)
Not recommended, better go for D3100 or D7000, because D90 can't AF while recording and the focusing speed on Live View also slow. Best of all, D3100 and D7000 are Full HD.

Me me, I love doing recording, hate it that D90 can't AF while recording. Now thinking to go for D7k after using D90 for 1 month hmm.gif
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D3100 auto AF while recording not so precise also. sometimes can run run also.
go for D7000 and give it a try tongue.gif
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QUOTE(aldosoesilo @ Mar 19 2011, 06:50 PM)
D3100 auto AF while recording not so precise also. sometimes can run run also.
go for D7000 and give it a try tongue.gif
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That "run run" part can be nice too you know, because of the bokeh-ness
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QUOTE(ezrasang @ Mar 19 2011, 06:54 PM)
That "run run" part can be nice too you know, because of the bokeh-ness
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Yup. Agreed. MF gives a more artistic feel to the video. AF makes your video looks like it's being shot with a Handycam. tongue.gif

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video is much more demanding in terms of focusing as compared to a still photo. still photos can afford to have a couple of misfocused frames in the middle of a burst shot, but video doesn't have the luxury unless you're talking amateur video lah where anything goes biggrin.gif

the "run run" focus is nice to have as an ease-in/out transition but having the autofocus misfocusing in the middle of recording... ugh imo not very nice.


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That's why Hollywood already have AF in cameras since many many decades ago. It's called the focus puller. tongue.gif
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i don't intend to be professional, but record video of places i travel.. then edit... then upload to youtube only tongue.gif

3100 still ok, 7000 like quite expensive.
also i cant use back the same lens i used for d60 right?
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import settings can be defined; so it's up to you whether to create a copy or not during import. as for editing, yes, it is non-destructive editing.
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I see.

Just now I developed a raw image and then exported to JPEG. Now when I reloaded the Adobe Lightroom, the "edit" I had done for the image already gone? How do I retrieve it by any chance? Do I need to "save" or anything after I had done the adjustment? unsure.gif

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Very nice wallpaper, right clicked laugh.gif

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That's why Hollywood already have AF in cameras since many many decades ago. It's called the focus puller. tongue.gif
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Is it looks like gear? unsure.gif tongue.gif

QUOTE(den @ Mar 19 2011, 09:19 PM)
i don't intend to be professional, but record video of places i travel.. then edit... then upload to youtube only tongue.gif

3100 still ok, 7000 like quite expensive.
also i cant use back the same lens i used for d60 right?
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I guess yes? Is it all nikkor lens should compatible? Not sure third party lens... unsure.gif

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can somebody tell me why my picture turn to blurry when i save in jpeg with PS SC5?
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Save in the highest quality mode
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QUOTE(den @ Mar 19 2011, 09:19 PM)
i don't intend to be professional, but record video of places i travel.. then edit... then upload to youtube only tongue.gif

3100 still ok, 7000 like quite expensive.
also i cant use back the same lens i used for d60 right?
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save in higher mode also blurry, why this happen lol, need help here..
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Or save to tiff? Bmp? Or Png? unsure.gif
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What's the actual time for the balloon display? 7am ~ 9am and 5pm ~ 6pm? unsure.gif
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What's the actual time for the balloon display? 7am ~ 9am and 5pm ~ 6pm? unsure.gif
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Reach there at 730am, tickets already sold out in 15mins. That's when they start raising the balloons. So best time to reach there is 7am.

Evening session I didn't go so don't know. BTW, they ended really fast today due to bad wheather.
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QUOTE(Terbulance @ Mar 19 2011, 11:17 PM)
Reach there at 730am, tickets already sold out in 15mins. That's when they start raising the balloons. So best time to reach there is 7am.

Evening session I didn't go so don't know. BTW, they ended really fast today due to bad wheather.
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Tickets? What tickets? huh.gif

How's the parking and congestion like? I failed to make it for today. Planned to go tomorrow morning but couldn't be sure with the weather condition. It has been pretty bad these days.
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dPI setting is 72? Make sure it is 300 ? If for printing?
Or save to tiff? Bmp? Or Png?  unsure.gif
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where is dpi location?im really2 new in PS
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Evening session probably would be raining. Best is go during the morning session. Good weather. Those tickets are for tethering hot air balloon ride. Go up and down. RM10.
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QUOTE(vearn27 @ Mar 19 2011, 11:20 PM)
Tickets? What tickets? huh.gif

How's the parking and congestion like? I failed to make it for today. Planned to go tomorrow morning but couldn't be sure with the weather condition. It has been pretty bad these days.
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QUOTE(Kiki-Lala @ Mar 19 2011, 11:29 PM)
Evening session probably would be raining. Best is go during the morning session. Good weather. Those tickets are for tethering hot air balloon ride. Go up and down. RM10.
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I was there to queue for the evening ride. Stood there at 4pm to queue and waited till 6pm to get the tickets! Being the first time so me and my friend didn't know the international balloons were at the other field. We ran towards there while some of the balloons already took off.

But sadly didn't have the chance the capture Doaremon because all photographers were asked to leave dy. Ran back to the tethering ride. Seems only 2 hot air balloons were operating. Ended up it rained and we got our tickets refunded.
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where is dpi location?im really2 new in PS
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oh wait...try view the original picture in window picture viewer or some program can direct view.... it is blur in first place?!  hmm.gif
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original picture is not blur only after edited with CS5 it turn to blur ..i view it in window picture viewer
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QUOTE(makoshark @ Mar 20 2011, 01:40 AM)
original picture is not blur only after edited with CS5 it turn to blur ..i view it in window picture viewer
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view in full 100% (not full screen mode, is 100% picture quality )?? in window picture viewer or PS...

OR during editing ,maybe your PS or you accident switch it blur? erm... my answer still like previous one... save as highest quality (value 12 quality) in JPG.

or try upload the original photo and the edited here see to compare? icon_idea.gif

*or during saving/ exporting the files do you save in higher resolution? unsure.gif eg: like 2000x3000 px photo you save as 5000x9000px photo?

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hi sifu...


i just bought a D90 today...

tested a few shots... in normal lighting... why is the pictures all black black ? sad.gif eventhough i set a higher iso ?

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QUOTE(Lady Nova @ Mar 20 2011, 02:55 AM)
hi sifu...
i just bought a D90 today...

tested a few shots... in normal lighting... why is the pictures all black black ? sad.gif eventhough i set a higher iso ?
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Your exposure time/speed is too fast!!! 1/800 second, not enough time to let the light come into your sensor.
And ISO400 is actually pretty low for indoor too, unless we are talking about f/1.4 aperture, or less than 1/80 exposure time.

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QUOTE(Lady Nova @ Mar 20 2011, 02:55 AM)
hi sifu...
i just bought a D90 today...

tested a few shots... in normal lighting... why is the pictures all black black ? sad.gif eventhough i set a higher iso ?

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ISO 400 is too low. Even if we're talking about a well-lit indoor room, subject is still underexposed. 1/800s is too fast, and it literally killed off all the available light that by right you should be collecting into your camera. Always
have to remember: Slower shutter speed => more light, Faster shutter speed => less light. We use this speed usually in broad daylight.


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Very nice wallpaper, right clicked laugh.gif
Is it looks like gear? unsure.gif  tongue.gif
I guess yes? Is it all nikkor lens should compatible? Not sure third party lens...  unsure.gif
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It's a person. Usually in a Hollywood filming work, there's always 2 persons operating the camera. The cameraman, and the assistant cameraman. The assistant cameraman is the one who measure the distance
between the subject with a measuring tape and adjust focus with a tool and also calculates the DOF depending on the scene requirement by the director.

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QUOTE(Lady Nova @ Mar 20 2011, 02:55 AM)
hi sifu...
i just bought a D90 today...

tested a few shots... in normal lighting... why is the pictures all black black ? sad.gif eventhough i set a higher iso ?

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Use A mode bro if donno how 2 use M mode.. laugh.gif laugh.gif
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No. I tried fastest at 1/8000 also the same.
Nope. I'm not using "Quiet" mode. I suppose the "chap-chak" is like a swift thing, but mine is "chap ..... chak". I wonder if this is normal or something I configured? Won't be body fault gua...
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Sounds like exposure delay mode.

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Which flash is the cheapest for wireless strobing? Can't trigger my Di622, so wanna sell it and buy a new one, or two if I have enough budget smile.gif
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SB600, SB700, SB800, SB900 smile.gif I assume you mean with the Nikon CLS system through the pop up or the SU800 commander unit?

QUOTE(Lady Nova @ Mar 20 2011, 02:55 AM)
hi sifu...
i just bought a D90 today...

tested a few shots... in normal lighting... why is the pictures all black black ? sad.gif eventhough i set a higher iso ?

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1/800 400iso f/3.5, even with f/1.4 I can barely hit 1/800 indoors. And it looks like a ballroom to me, you need to be like 1/30s 800 or maybe 1600 ISO in this case with flash too.

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QUOTE(Lady Nova @ Mar 20 2011, 02:55 AM)
hi sifu...
i just bought a D90 today...

tested a few shots... in normal lighting... why is the pictures all black black ? sad.gif eventhough i set a higher iso ?

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learn more technical stuffs such as shutter speed, aperture and ISO; and how to use them.

best to start by either asking unker google or going through the user manual smile.gif and welcome to the dark side!

on another note, just came back from Putrajaya hot air balloon fiesta. feeling so sleepy now yawn.gif

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can i know this pic u take it using which lens ? >.<
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can i know this pic u take it using which lens ? >.<
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the weather is not nice cannot go to hot air. sad.gif
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24mm 1.4 amiao.. laugh.gif how is our hot air balloon thingy? hahaha...
the weather is not nice cannot go to hot air. sad.gif
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Guys, just wondering... on the d7000 there is an "info" button that puts the information on the main LCD (aperture, shutter speed etc)... does the d3100 have that?

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LoL ... apasal u dekat sini ==
haiz... i think next year we go lo.... if u repeat ur degree... hahahahahahhahahaha........... drool.gif
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Guys, just wondering... on the d7000 there is an "info" button that puts the information on the main LCD (aperture, shutter speed etc)... does the d3100 have that?
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learn more technical stuffs such as shutter speed, aperture and ISO; and how to use them.

best to start by either asking unker google or going through the user manual smile.gif and welcome to the dark side!

on another note, just came back from Putrajaya hot air balloon fiesta. feeling so sleepy now  yawn.gif

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I didn't see doraemon. and didn't get lots of hot air balloon pics. was there at 10am - 12pm. Wrong timing ba. sad.gif
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repeat my degree for hot air balloon? keep dreaming dude! laugh.gif
it will never ever happen..
yeah it does on the bottom left most part of the camera
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QUOTE(nivlanauk @ Mar 20 2011, 03:43 PM)
I didn't see doraemon. and didn't get lots of hot air balloon pics. was there at 10am - 12pm. Wrong timing ba. sad.gif
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I was there at 7am something.

Now going again with other friends. lol

Oh, on another note, I think I saw someone using a D3s + 400mm (very huge thing can't tell the range but definitely bigger than 70-200). Feels heavy only by looking at it. laugh.gif

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I didn't see doraemon. and didn't get lots of hot air balloon pics. was there at 10am - 12pm. Wrong timing ba. sad.gif
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The schedule is available online: http://www.myballoonfiesta.com/itinerary.html

Only 7am ~ 9am and 6pm ~ 7pm. You got one last chance today, provided if it didn't rain.
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turns out D5000 USB cable does not fit USB port of D3100...
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QUOTE(vearn27 @ Mar 20 2011, 04:34 PM)
The schedule is available online: http://www.myballoonfiesta.com/itinerary.html

Only 7am ~ 9am and 6pm ~ 7pm. You got one last chance today, provided if it didn't rain.
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QUOTE(BenSow @ Mar 20 2011, 04:45 PM)
turns out D5000 USB cable does not fit USB port of D3100...
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Added on March 20, 2011, 4:54 pmOh ya how can i try lens in BTS Nikon Centre? Need to request one?
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how come? i tot it was all the same?
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Added on March 20, 2011, 4:54 pmOh ya how can i try lens in BTS Nikon Centre? Need to request one?
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LOL, too damn used to 85G and 1635 which is sooo light.
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I just tested the 85G last month. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(SSY22 @ Mar 20 2011, 04:50 PM)

Question , i use AF-C , Dynamic Area and used AF-ON can recompose my subjec?and that can make me get sharp image?(Assume my exposure correct)Thanks for teaching me.

1. no use recomposing with dynamic area, unless of cos the subject when recompose is not within the area.
2. why dont u use single point? why trust the camera to focus on what u want when it might not?
3. and AF-ON is the same as pressing ur shutter half-way to focus and will track in AF-C...if u had even tried u would already know.
if u want to recompose in AF-C, what u need to use is AF-lock.
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QUOTE(Everdying @ Mar 20 2011, 06:43 PM)
1. no use recomposing with dynamic area, unless of cos the subject when recompose is not within the area.
2. why dont u use single point? why trust the camera to focus on what u want when it might not?
3. and AF-ON is the same as pressing ur shutter half-way to focus and will track in AF-C...if u had even tried u would already know.
if u want to recompose in AF-C, what u need to use is AF-lock.
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Single point ? But i tot only used for shooting still object?

Use single point , will out of focus wor , if the object moving

hmmm i think nvm lar , thanks for teaching. I will try to find answer in google thanks u
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what is the term used for when coloured lines are seen at the edge of objects in a photograph?
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what is the term used for when coloured lines are seen at the edge of objects in a photograph?
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color fringe
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k thanks.. i just spotted this problem in one of my photos.. i shot my nikon lens cap beside a window indoors today.. and it turns out the brighter area of the word "Nikon" has green colour fringe while the darker part has purplish... what is the cause of this? i cant upload right now though.. no card reader..
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QUOTE(SSY22 @ Mar 20 2011, 07:40 PM)
Single point ? But i tot only used for shooting still object?

Use single point , will out of focus wor , if the object moving

hmmm i think nvm lar , thanks for teaching. I will try to find answer in google thanks u
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have u ever heard of panning? and what are u trying to shoot anyway?is it a fast moving object? i cant understand when u said u r trying to recompose moving subject


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QUOTE(BenSow @ Mar 20 2011, 08:41 PM)
k thanks.. i just spotted this problem in one of my photos.. i shot my nikon lens cap beside a window indoors today.. and it turns out the brighter area of the word "Nikon" has green colour fringe while the darker part has purplish... what is the cause of this? i cant upload right now though.. no card reader..
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usually it happens when u use it wide open. example f1.8/f1.4. it'll go away if u use smaller apertures.

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QUOTE(BenSow @ Mar 20 2011, 08:41 PM)
k thanks.. i just spotted this problem in one of my photos.. i shot my nikon lens cap beside a window indoors today.. and it turns out the brighter area of the word "Nikon" has green colour fringe while the darker part has purplish... what is the cause of this? i cant upload right now though.. no card reader..
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chromatic_aberration

someone show this forget what time ago i repost biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(BenSow @ Mar 20 2011, 08:41 PM)
k thanks.. i just spotted this problem in one of my photos.. i shot my nikon lens cap beside a window indoors today.. and it turns out the brighter area of the word "Nikon" has green colour fringe while the darker part has purplish... what is the cause of this? i cant upload right now though.. no card reader..
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Shooting at wide open apertures usually give colour fringing(CA) smile.gif
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QUOTE(BenSow @ Mar 20 2011, 08:41 PM)
k thanks.. i just spotted this problem in one of my photos.. i shot my nikon lens cap beside a window indoors today.. and it turns out the brighter area of the word "Nikon" has green colour fringe while the darker part has purplish... what is the cause of this? i cant upload right now though.. no card reader..
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u need to magic letter "N" on your lens. correct me if wrong. or u need ED or more aspherical elements
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QUOTE(scotty @ Mar 20 2011, 08:47 PM)
u need to magic letter "N" on your lens. correct me if wrong. or u need ED or more aspherical elements
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N lens usually will solve the "ghosting" problem.

Anyway, Chromatic Abberation happens because the individual Red, Green and Blue light rays were not focused properly, causing color fringe on the edge. I don't know whether this is counted as a lens issue.

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QUOTE(scotty @ Mar 20 2011, 08:47 PM)
u need to magic letter "N" on your lens. correct me if wrong. or u need ED or more aspherical elements
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need more ED element for CA laugh.gif N is for flaring and ghosting prevention.

ED the wonder joy for nikonian brows.gif
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ED is what again ar? forget sweat.gif dun tell me it is "past tense" unsure.gif
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QUOTE(Agito666 @ Mar 20 2011, 08:53 PM)
ED is what again ar? forget  sweat.gif  dun tell me it is "past tense"  unsure.gif
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http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/nikortek.htm#ed

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ED (Extra-low Dispersion) Glass: 1975 

"Extra-low Dispersion glass." Nikon started using this only in their super speed super teles in the late 1960s. These lenses say "ED" on and have a gold band around the barrel. All ED lenses say so.

Since only the most expensive lenses used or needed this glass it acquired a cachet. Therefore Nikon started using the moniker on cheaper lenses, and today it seems everything says ED on it. Short and normal lenses have no need of this glass; it's benefit is reducing secondary chromatic aberration, which is green/magenta color fringes that used to plague lenses of 300mm and up.

ED glass is an improvement over the fluorite used by other makers at the time because it is hard enough to use for outside elements, unlike the soft fluorite.

ED glass helps eliminate secondary chromatic aberration (green-magenta color fringes) which is what previously prevented the design of practical super speed, super sharp super teles.

Discount brands now purport to use this glass. Ignore all these claims; they may or may not use this glass, but there are far more important factors in lens design than just what sort of glass was used. See the reviews for specific performance tests.

ED glass is less stable with temperature than conventional glass, and so the focal lengths of these lenses change slightly with temperature. Therefore there is no hard infinity focus stop on ED lenses because the point of infinity focus will change a bit with extremes of temperature.

ED glass also has a lower index of refraction so it requires more deeply curved elements for the same focal length.

The whole point of owning a Nikon is to use these super tele lenses, so don't be a bone head and waste your time with non-Nikon super telephoto lenses. You will find that when you go to sell a Nikon super telephoto that you will sell it for what you paid for it, so it's sort of free. If you have a discount lens (Tokina, Tamron, Spooginar, Sigma, etc.) you will have to sell it for far less than you paid, so the discount lenses actually cost MORE to own.
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today i have chance to try my d7000 with tamron 17-50 non vc, the result is very disapointed me, picture is not so sharp,even my kit lens can produce very2 sharp picture..any d7000 owners here have this problem?
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QUOTE(Tony Stark @ Mar 20 2011, 08:43 PM)
have u ever heard of panning? and what are u trying to shoot anyway?is it a fast moving object? i cant understand when u said u r trying to recompose moving subject


Added on March 20, 2011, 8:45 pm
usually it happens when u use it wide open. example f1.8/f1.4. it'll go away if u use smaller apertures.
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QUOTE(Agito666 @ Mar 20 2011, 08:45 PM)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chromatic_aberration

someone show this forget what time ago i repost  biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(-kytz- @ Mar 20 2011, 08:46 PM)
Nice picture smile.gif
Shooting at wide open apertures usually give colour fringing(CA) smile.gif
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QUOTE(geekster129 @ Mar 20 2011, 08:49 PM)
N lens usually will solve the "ghosting" problem.

Anyway, Chromatic Abberation happens because the individual Red, Green and Blue light rays were not focused properly, causing color fringe on the edge. I don't know whether this is counted as a lens issue.
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i was doing 55mm f/5.6 O.O should be lens problem.. how lehh >< using 1855...
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i was doing 55mm f/5.6 O.O should be lens problem.. how lehh >< using 1855...
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QUOTE(shinjun @ Mar 20 2011, 09:37 PM)
Bare with it. smile.gif
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okay.. but i never see before this problem.. let alone at such extreme level.. the CA very obvious in that photo blink.gif blink.gif
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QUOTE(BenSow @ Mar 20 2011, 09:36 PM)
i was doing 55mm f/5.6 O.O should be lens problem.. how lehh >< using 1855...
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at 55mm, 5.6 is the widest right? cuz my 18-35 still give me CA on 18mm at f3.5 laugh.gif
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QUOTE(SSY22 @ Mar 20 2011, 07:40 PM)
Single point ? But i tot only used for shooting still object?

Use single point , will out of focus wor , if the object moving

hmmm i think nvm lar , thanks for teaching. I will try to find answer in google thanks u
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seems to me u dont understand what AF-C is.
C = continuous, as long as the point is on the subject it will focus.

eg. the pic below is AF-C, single point, but moved to the right side focusing on the stomach so it will be on the player.

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Finally have chance to test my 85 f/1.4g, spam one pic first tongue.gif

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QUOTE(Tony Stark @ Mar 20 2011, 08:43 PM)
have u ever heard of panning? and what are u trying to shoot anyway?is it a fast moving object? i cant understand when u said u r trying to recompose moving subject


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usually it happens when u use it wide open. example f1.8/f1.4. it'll go away if u use smaller apertures.
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Everydying taught me already.

Btw, are you going to sell 5d Mark II?

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okay.. but i never see before this problem.. let alone at such extreme level.. the CA very obvious in that photo  blink.gif  blink.gif
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QUOTE(Everdying @ Mar 20 2011, 09:56 PM)
seems to me u dont understand what AF-C is.
C = continuous, as long as the point is on the subject it will focus.

eg. the pic below is AF-C, single point, but moved to the right side focusing on the stomach so it will be on the player.

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Everdying, thanks for clearing me. I tot you talking about AF-S. My bad for not understand you.

So with AF-C+Single point , i can recompose my subject right ? Let say i am using center focus on my subject which is on middle in my viewfinder , so i wan to recompose it to right. So is that works ?

in what situation using dynamic area?


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QUOTE(SSY22 @ Mar 20 2011, 10:17 PM)
Everdying, thanks for clearing me. I tot you talking about AF-S. My bad for not understand you.

So with AF-C+Single point , i can recompose my subject right ? Let say i am using center focus on my subject which is on middle in my viewfinder , so i wan to recompose it to right. So is that works ?

in what situation using dynamic area?
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It will work, in fact today i forgotten to change my selector switch to AF-S and still got in focus shots smile.gif
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QUOTE(Bliz @ Mar 20 2011, 11:02 PM)
Finally have chance to test my 85 f/1.4g, spam one pic first tongue.gif

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very sleek, sharp and nice colours smile.gif
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very sleek, sharp and nice colours  smile.gif
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QUOTE(SSY22 @ Mar 20 2011, 10:17 PM)
Everdying, thanks for clearing me. I tot you talking about AF-S. My bad for not understand you.

So with AF-C+Single point , i can recompose my subject right ? Let say i am using center focus on my subject which is on middle in my viewfinder , so i wan to recompose it to right. So is that works ?

in what situation using dynamic area?
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u cant in AF-C and single point, cos once u center focus on ur subject and move, and since its AF-C the focus will then readjust to whatever is in the new center...unless u first AF-lock and then recompose.
if dont want to use AF-lock, either move the focus point with the D-pad, or use AF-S.


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QUOTE(Bliz @ Mar 20 2011, 10:25 PM)
Thanx, one more here, i love this one the most

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the color is perfect trough my monitor and the image looks great thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(Bliz @ Mar 20 2011, 10:02 PM)
Finally have chance to test my 85 f/1.4g, spam one pic first tongue.gif

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firstly, cute model u got there tongue.gif and did u do any pp on the eyes mate? her eyes looks nice smile.gif

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Hi Tony ! Is okay d lar =D

Everydying taught me already.

Btw, are you going to sell 5d Mark II?
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good that u got it already. with continuous AF, just kejar ur subject with the point that u use smile.gif selling my 5D2? u interested?
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QUOTE(ComradeZ @ Mar 20 2011, 10:28 PM)
the color is perfect trough my monitor and the image looks great  thumbup.gif
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Yes the colour really pops, even so than my 70-200vr2 shocking.gif ... Should have gotten this earlier drool.gif


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QUOTE(Tony Stark @ Mar 20 2011, 10:29 PM)
firstly, cute model u got there tongue.gif and did u do any pp on the eyes mate? her eyes looks nice smile.gif
good that u got it already. with continuous AF, just kejar ur subject with the point that u use smile.gif selling my 5D2? u interested?
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Never do any pp, i did use some bounce flash to get some catch light on her eyes wub.gif

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QUOTE(Bliz @ Mar 20 2011, 10:30 PM)
Yes the colour really pops, even so than my 70-200vr2  shocking.gif ... Should have gotten this earlier  drool.gif


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Never do any pp, i did use some bounce flash to get some catch light on her eyes  wub.gif
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ops... but seriously a nice color cry.gif I want that now! ohmy.gif

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QUOTE(ComradeZ @ Mar 20 2011, 10:32 PM)
is it really out of camera or done a lil bit tweak? I mean it is just a great color and all...  sweat.gif
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RAW converted to JPEG using the default adobe standard profile, then i upload to flickR nod.gif


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QUOTE(Bliz @ Mar 20 2011, 10:32 PM)
RAW converted to JPEG using the default adobe standard profile, then i upload to flickR  nod.gif

BTW, that shot was stopped down to F/2, maybe that's why higher contrast

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RAW converted to JPEG using the default adobe standard profile, then i upload to flickR  nod.gif


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It will work, in fact today i forgotten to change my selector switch to AF-S and still got in focus shots  smile.gif
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Alright thanks you very much Bliz.

Everdying thanks you again

I use my hand test just now. Using AF-C + Single Point. As long as you half pressed and follow the subject then u will stay in focus. While if using AF-C + dynamic, if my subject leave the point where i focus , it will select a new point to focus it izzit?
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QUOTE(razuryza @ Mar 20 2011, 10:35 PM)
try shoot jpeg and upload.. wanna see ler hmm.gif
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QUOTE(Bliz @ Mar 20 2011, 11:25 PM)
Thanx, one more here, i love this one the most

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Wonder how you produce those color,
are them straight out of camera and did some contrast / saturation adjustment only?
its so amazing
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QUOTE(0168257061 @ Mar 20 2011, 10:40 PM)
Wonder how you produce those color,
are them straight out of camera and did some contrast / saturation adjustment only?
its so amazing
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QUOTE(Everdying @ Mar 20 2011, 10:28 PM)
u cant in AF-C and single point, cos once u center focus on ur subject and move, and since its AF-C the focus will then readjust to whatever is in the new center...unless u first AF-lock and then recompose.
if dont want to use AF-lock, either move the focus point with the D-pad, or use AF-S.
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QUOTE(Tony Stark @ Mar 20 2011, 10:29 PM)
firstly, cute model u got there tongue.gif and did u do any pp on the eyes mate? her eyes looks nice smile.gif
good that u got it already. with continuous AF, just kejar ur subject with the point that u use smile.gif selling my 5D2? u interested?
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Alright, thanks you for taking note my question

No lar, im just asking. =D


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QUOTE(Bliz @ Mar 20 2011, 10:42 PM)
As I have mentioned earlier, I shot RAW, then converted to JPEG using the standard adobe colour profile under LR3... anyway here's another one to demostrate the amazing sharpness wide open ( can even see the imperfections clearly  shakehead.gif  )

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I guess 85mm 1.4g will stay connected to your camera nowadays. Most of the time will use it right? tongue.gif

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Sorry i don't shoot JPEG so i can't upload the JPEG, i always convert from RAW to JPEG using the standard colour profile, dislike the other colour profile  laugh.gif
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i'm asking u for new shot ler.. that's y i said TRY

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Finally have chance to test my 85 f/1.4g, spam one pic first
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Bliz, your girls holding gun very hot wub.gif lust.gif

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QUOTE(razuryza @ Mar 20 2011, 10:48 PM)
so arrogant a u unsure.gif

i'm asking u for new shot ler.. that's u i said TRY
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Like that also arrogant? laugh.gif


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Bliz, your girls holding gun very hot  wub.gif  lust.gif
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One hot and one cute laugh.gif

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Alright thanks you very much Bliz.

Everdying thanks you again

I use my hand test just now. Using AF-C + Single Point. As long as you half pressed and follow the subject then u will stay in focus. While if using AF-C + dynamic, if my subject leave the point where i focus , it will select a new point to focus it izzit?
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first wat do u want to shoot? and what camera are u using?
of cos if ur camera got more focus points, it makes it easier to track.
else just make sure u pan better.
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Like that also arrogant?  laugh.gif


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One hot and one cute  laugh.gif
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got P90 gun? drool.gif

RAW got more colour range?
did a quicky from there http://blog.epicedits.com/2008/04/07/raw-v...-comparison/.....

so you mean if straight shoot in JPEG colour will loss? and if shoot in RAW what software will batch convert it? LR only? duno PS can or not ...lazy find *ahem* LR to do that.

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Never do any pp, i did use some bounce flash to get some catch light on her eyes  wub.gif
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nice job, makes the eyes looks nicer laugh.gif

and just a note to others, i dont own a G, just a D, the colors are not as good as the G ofcuz, but its way better than nifty fifty lolz biggrin.gif good lens = better color
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Nice theme n pics Blitz..... This morn I went BTS to try out 16-35VR vs 17-55 f/2.8, end up the 17-55 looks much better contrast, saturation and sharpness eh =.=
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QUOTE(Tony Stark @ Mar 20 2011, 11:02 PM)
nice job, makes the eyes looks nicer laugh.gif

and just a note to others, i dont own a G, just a D, the colors are not as good as the G ofcuz, but its way better than nifty fifty lolz biggrin.gif good lens = better color
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Yes the D version of the lens has very pale colour, I have used the D version of the lens a few times before deciding to get G instead

QUOTE(Kent3888 @ Mar 20 2011, 11:03 PM)
Nice theme n pics Blitz..... This morn I went BTS to try out 16-35VR vs 17-55 f/2.8, end up the 17-55 looks much better contrast, saturation and sharpness eh =.=
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Thanx mate..Well I have not tested 17-55, but 16-35 has very good colour/contrast to me already, probably due to the F/2.8 that's why look better? No idea sweat.gif

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Yes the D version of the lens has very pale colour, I have used the D version of the lens a few times before deciding to get G instead
Thanx mate..Well I have not tested 17-55, but 16-35 has very good colour/contrast to me already, probably due to the F/2.8 that's why look better? No idea  sweat.gif
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before u sleep, wuts the MFD for 85G ar?

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before u sleep, wuts the MFD for 85G ar?
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85cm, same as the D version smile.gif
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85cm, same as the D version  smile.gif
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owh..okays then smile.gif btw, not very pale la..u make it sound like its so bad sweat.gif makes me sad abit laugh.gif

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QUOTE(Kent3888 @ Mar 20 2011, 11:03 PM)
Nice theme n pics Blitz..... This morn I went BTS to try out 16-35VR vs 17-55 f/2.8, end up the 17-55 looks much better contrast, saturation and sharpness eh =.=
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hi kent, u own tamron 17-50mm, how its performance with ur D7K?its produce soft picture at f2.8?
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QUOTE(Bliz @ Mar 20 2011, 11:04 PM)


Thanx mate..Well I have not tested 17-55, but 16-35 has very good colour/contrast to me already, probably due to the F/2.8 that's why look better? No idea  sweat.gif
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No.... both shot at same aperture n settings, the Nikon guy say mayb using DX, the outcome of 16-35 not so good, I wonder y.... since 16-35 got N coat summore,so disappointed ler.... at 1st thought after try to confirm in BTS den can straight buy dy, but end up sweat.gif
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QUOTE(Tony Stark @ Mar 20 2011, 11:10 PM)
owh..okays then smile.gif btw, not very pale la..u make it sound like it so bad sweat.gif makes me sad abit laugh.gif
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Haha, maybe I just hate the way it renders colour, but the D version is already a very good lens thumbup.gif
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diff sort of gun

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QUOTE(Kent3888 @ Mar 20 2011, 11:11 PM)
No.... both shot at same aperture n settings, the Nikon guy say mayb using DX, the outcome of 16-35 not so good, I wonder y.... since 16-35 got N coat summore,so disappointed ler.... at 1st thought after try to confirm in BTS den can straight buy dy, but end up sweat.gif
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If u are going FX soon, just get the 16-35 else get the 17-55 first and sell it after u get FX.
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QUOTE(makoshark @ Mar 20 2011, 11:10 PM)
hi kent, u own tamron 17-50mm, how its performance with ur D7K?its produce soft picture at f2.8?
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Soft at 50mm zoom, very soft =) no nit photoshop for models, 35mm much better, forgotten how is it at 17mm
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ops... but seriously a nice color  cry.gif I want that now! ohmy.gif
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QUOTE(Bliz @ Mar 20 2011, 11:12 PM)
If u are going FX soon, just get the 16-35 else get the 17-55 first and sell it after u get FX.
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Going for plan 2.....

Contrast n Saturation Comparison
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QUOTE(Kent3888 @ Mar 20 2011, 11:18 PM)
Going for plan 2.....

Contrast n Saturation Comparison
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From the pics above the 17-55 seems to be better, must be due to stop down 1 stop compared to F/4 of 16-35 drool.gif

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QUOTE(Bliz @ Mar 20 2011, 11:22 PM)
From the pics above the 17-55 seems to be better, must be due to stop down 1 stop compared to F/4 of 16-35  drool.gif
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Yawor.... now hunting for DX king liao, later den fund for VRII zoomzoom drool.gif , lol......
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QUOTE(Kent3888 @ Mar 20 2011, 11:24 PM)
Yawor.... now hunting for DX king liao, later den fund for VRII zoomzoom  drool.gif , lol......
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QUOTE(Bliz @ Mar 20 2011, 11:25 PM)
Haha lol, 70-200vr2 buy last better ( A word of advice from me  tongue.gif )
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I don wanna get it 1st coz sure I seldom use it.... den the value depreciating in the black box!! not so active in shooting models unlike Malacca gang so strong..... event once a while oni, lol.... got my siggy50mm liao, den get this 1755 gao dim.... slowly fund for VRII icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(Kent3888 @ Mar 20 2011, 11:28 PM)
I don wanna get it 1st coz sure I seldom use it.... den the value depreciating in the black box!! not so active in shooting models unlike Malacca gang so strong..... event once a while oni, lol.... got my siggy50mm liao, den get this 1755 gao dim.... slowly fund for VRII  icon_rolleyes.gif
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U guys at KL damn many activities leh, Melaka here no events also, we all find models ourselves  wink.gif
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QUOTE(Bliz @ Mar 20 2011, 11:30 PM)
U guys at KL damn many activities leh, Melaka here no events also, we all find models ourselves  wink.gif
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Wait PC fair again la.... hahaa..... sleep 1st, nitezz..... wink.gif
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Event shooting=bored, fight with so many people  doh.gif


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QUOTE(razuryza @ Mar 20 2011, 11:42 PM)
oops.. i think what u meant is Model shooting?

i never fight with so many people shooting events  whistling.gif
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QUOTE(Bliz @ Mar 20 2011, 10:49 PM)
Like that also arrogant?  laugh.gif


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Hey guys! I just bought a D7000 today. I'm a long-time D60 user. Unfortunately, my 18-200VR lens had to be sent for service (I have plenty of lenses from my dad's D300, so it would be rather pointless to buy the kitlens), so cannot do some telephoto work hahah.. using the 50mm f1.8 now. But I must say.. it's awesome! The HD video recording is fun too. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Kent3888 @ Mar 20 2011, 11:28 PM)
I don wanna get it 1st coz sure I seldom use it.... den the value depreciating in the black box!! not so active in shooting models unlike Malacca gang so strong..... event once a while oni, lol.... got my siggy50mm liao, den get this 1755 gao dim.... slowly fund for VRII  icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(latias93 @ Mar 21 2011, 12:56 AM)
Hey guys! I just bought a D7000 today. I'm a long-time D60 user. Unfortunately, my 18-200VR lens had to be sent for service (I have plenty of lenses from my dad's D300, so it would be rather pointless to buy the kitlens), so cannot do some telephoto work hahah.. using the 50mm f1.8 now. But I must say.. it's awesome! The HD video recording is fun too. biggrin.gif
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Nikon Malaysia 10th Anniversary
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might want to update it on the first page

Nikon Malaysia 10th Anniversary
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Venue: Hall 3, Mid Valley Exhibition Centre, Level 3
Opening Hour: 31/3 2pm to 9pm
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NPS section
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drool.gif i sure go then... tongue.gif

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Sharing some pictures of new collection; please ignore the background  sweat.gif
Aiks, wrong section? Post lah in the diecast section. biggrin.gif

Didn't know you collect diecast also.

QUOTE(ezrasang @ Mar 19 2011, 06:47 PM)
Me me, I love doing recording, hate it that D90 can't AF while recording. Now thinking to go for D7k after using D90 for 1 month hmm.gif
Leave the camera for taking pics. Get a dedicated videocam if you want to take video.

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eg. the pic below is AF-C, single point, but moved to the right side focusing on the stomach so it will be on the player.

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On a side note, the photo composition is excellent. If just to nitpick, the M word on Malaysia is slightly cut off. Else, it would be perfect.

QUOTE(Tony Stark @ Mar 20 2011, 11:10 PM)
owh..okays then smile.gif btw, not very pale la..u make it sound like its so bad sweat.gif makes me sad abit laugh.gif
Don't be sad. I don't know if there is a real difference in colour between the D and G but you can always play around with the curves and picture settings in the camera to alter the final result if you're shooting JPG. With NEF / RAW, the things you can do is limitless.

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Those are plastic toy guns(No idea what model), shot at abandoned cinema at Melaka
Which cinema? Federal or Rex?
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might want to update it on the first page

Nikon Malaysia 10th Anniversary
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Gonna bring my D90 for sensor cleaning biggrin.gif. Maybe my D700 too hehe, never hurt to have it cleaned xD.
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AFAIK, LEXAR the best la.
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AFAIK, LEXAR the best la.
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camera not waterproof also no use  laugh.gif
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On a side note, the photo composition is excellent. If just to nitpick, the M word on Malaysia is slightly cut off. Else, it would be perfect.
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took about 3-4 points to get that angle cos behind is of cos the blue backboard with the stupid kayu line judges there.
i have shots with the M in full, but its either shes right smack in the middle, doing a forehand, or over-stretched on the backhand.

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Hmm, I cant seem to find the price for lexar 16gb 30mbps card. Hoodman selling for USD120 thou and waterproof.
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http://www.lexar.com/products/lexar-profes...rd?category=196

30Mbps only class 10.

LEXAR running on 133x which according to wikipedia, is 160mbps
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secure_Digital#.C3.97_rating

Well, the card itself stated class 10. No idea how they classified it actually. hmm.gif

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133x -> 20MBps (160mbps).
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QUOTE(KTCY @ Mar 21 2011, 11:24 AM)
http://www.lexar.com/products/lexar-profes...rd?category=196

30Mbps only class 10.

LEXAR running on 133x which according to wikipedia, is  160mbps
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secure_Digital#.C3.97_rating

Well, the card itself stated class 10. No idea how they classified it actually. hmm.gif
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Hmm... this is the hoodman one.

I dont understand those 120x or 133x sometimes...
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QUOTE(celciuz @ Mar 21 2011, 11:48 AM)
Haha yeah~ fastest now is 90MBps, Extreme Pro CF. Not sure got even faster cards now or not.
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sweat.gif can get a D7k body already..or a 16-35 f4

Last night moon shot, didnt really notice the difference in size..

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Guys, when you import your photos with LR, which import setting used? "Copy As DNG" or just "Add"?

Then save the RAW files but not the amended one or both? unsure.gif
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Oh, yeah I recalled there was an updated Extreme Pro, but unable to find the link.
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QUOTE(ifer @ Mar 21 2011, 09:26 AM)
might want to update it on the first page

Nikon Malaysia 10th Anniversary
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Opening Hour: 31/3 2pm to 9pm
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exhibition of iconic nikon cameras (NASA cameras will be here too)
NPS section
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model shooting photography contest
launch of nikon club
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complimentary sensor cleaning
special 10th anniversary premiums

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QUOTE(C_Sagi @ Mar 21 2011, 03:29 PM)
Buahaha, i feel good now. Within this month i successfully converted 3 ppl to jumpship from canon. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Agito666 @ Mar 21 2011, 04:03 PM)
somehow i feel funny when look at your statement with your avatar...Jesus Christ....  laugh.gif
uploading my noob shot.. looks nice in D70s monitor but looks bad in monitor.  doh.gif 
Had to re-adjust all colour... now my target skill is shoot until no need PP  laugh.gif

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must be cause you used auto white balance right ???
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must be cause you used auto white balance right ???
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what most common white balance (and ISO) you guys set... just set that as base so emergency can straight snap. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Agito666 @ Mar 21 2011, 04:19 PM)
ya  doh.gif  you are right. auto white balance.
what most common white balance (and ISO) you guys set... just set that as base so emergency can straight snap.  laugh.gif
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okay now i more and more respect all sifu here , so hard need to get nice shot... or maybe need upgrade lens? but duno what lens need to think  hmm.gif
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QUOTE(Terbulance @ Mar 21 2011, 04:27 PM)
For me mostly auto, cause up until now it's accurate in most conditions.
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Sikit sikit "need" to upgrade lens already hmm.gif

Not steady lar u! biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Agito666 @ Mar 21 2011, 04:03 PM)
somehow i feel funny when look at your statement with your avatar...Jesus Christ....  laugh.gif
uploading my noob shot.. looks nice in D70s monitor but looks bad in monitor.  doh.gif 
Had to re-adjust all colour... now my target skill is shoot until no need PP  laugh.gif

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Bro, if you're shooting still objects and have all the time, you can slowly adjust your camera, epecially the white balance, play with the lightings, flash, etc. If you're shooting event, you want to get it right in camera 100% without PP? It's godlike... (Edit: you can preset WB, but still, it's not 100% fooproof)

Shoot raw, you have more control over PP especially the WB.

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QUOTE(Agito666 @ Mar 21 2011, 04:29 PM)
not sure my D70s "auto" system with kit lens is accurate or not  sweat.gif
oh well i still have photoshop  icon_rolleyes.gif
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somehow i feel funny when look at your statement with your avatar...Jesus Christ....  laugh.gif
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I just told them "Join the darkside....." while waving my hand.
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QUOTE(Terbulance @ Mar 21 2011, 04:35 PM)
The best is shoot raw so you can change the white balance, picture control and other things later in your com. I use ViewNX 2 to do so. Just that raw files need big space sweat.gif
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When shooting RAW ... i notice once i imported into LR ...the color is not the same as i shoot it. Does LR do a basic editting first? I already set the white balance 'as-shot'.
Most of the times, my shot seems brighter/over-exposed once imported. I had to go and 'double click' each value to make it back to default. And clicking the auto tone just makes it under-exposed/darker ...

correcting the color and white balance again is very tricky ... sad.gif
*i shoot products too. and corecting the the colors/whitebalance is important to me. i want them to look natural and the color matches the real item as much as possible. blush.gif

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I just told them "Join the darkside....." while waving my hand.
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QUOTE(vearn27 @ Mar 21 2011, 12:54 PM)
Guys, when you import your photos with LR, which import setting used? "Copy As DNG" or just "Add"?

Then save the RAW files but not the amended one or both? unsure.gif
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depends on my import source. if it's fresh from cf card: Copy and Add (to copy to HDD and add to catalog)

if it's from my HDD: Add.

No need DNG conversion for me as I'm highly unlikely to use/share the raw file with others.

All changes made to the Raw file are recorded and saved but still the raw file are left untouched so you can go back and forth through your steps.
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When shooting RAW ... i notice once i imported into LR ...the color is not the same as i shoot it. Does LR do a basic editting first? I already set the white balance 'as-shot'.
Most of the times, my shot seems brighter/over-exposed once imported. I had to go and 'double click' each value to make it back to default. And clicking the auto tone just makes it under-exposed/darker ...

correcting the color and white balance again is very tricky ... sad.gif
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Let's say if you shoot Vivid default mode, you can actually configure LR to apply Vivid processing to your image. It will look 99% similar to your LCD smile.gif. But if you start tweaking saturation etc then it will look different...
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QUOTE(mmohdnor @ Mar 21 2011, 04:46 PM)
When shooting RAW ... i notice once i imported into LR ...the color is not the same as i shoot it. Does LR do a basic editting first? I already set the white balance 'as-shot'.
Most of the times, my shot seems brighter/over-exposed once imported. I had to go and 'double click' each value to make it back to default. And clicking the auto tone just makes it under-exposed/darker ...

correcting the color and white balance again is very tricky ... sad.gif
*i shoot products too. and corecting the the colors/whitebalance is important to me. i want them to look natural and the color matches the real item as much as possible.  blush.gif
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Lightroom have preset settings for RAW files, so it will adjust the brightness, contrast, etc when you import the RAW files and loaded the presets.

There is also Lens correction which you can apply.


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so tonight try find LR to try out, tomorrow try shoot same subject again biggrin.gif
just now the 2 photo is quick edit in Phtoshop RAW 5.0 (?), anyway it is part of photoshop... tonight try find lightroom installer...is the program big? hmm.gif
or use nikon software? i try search in official site got or not...

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QUOTE(celciuz @ Mar 21 2011, 04:49 PM)
Let's say if you shoot Vivid default mode, you can actually configure LR to apply Vivid processing to your image. It will look 99% similar to your LCD smile.gif. But if you start tweaking saturation etc then it will look different...
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QUOTE(Andy214 @ Mar 21 2011, 04:51 PM)
Lightroom have preset settings for RAW files, so it will adjust the brightness, contrast, etc when you import the RAW files and loaded the presets.

There is also Lens correction which you can apply.
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so how do i get back the image which i saw on screen when i shoot it? tongue.gif
how to disable the auto adjust feature in LR? ... sometimes the pic on the camera just needs a little tweaking.

sorry, just started trying to shoot RAW .. hehe. used to shoot jpg all these while.
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Let's say if you shoot Vivid default mode, you can actually configure LR to apply Vivid processing to your image. It will look 99% similar to your LCD smile.gif. But if you start tweaking saturation etc then it will look different...
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so you are saying you are encourage to shoot in normal and PP the raw file to vivid?
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agito ... u can dwld the view nx2 from nikon site
http://nikonimglib.com/nvnx/index_en_int.html#os-windows
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so you are saying you are encourage to shoot in normal and PP the raw file to vivid?
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It doesn't matter what picture control you shoot, because when you import to LR you basically define what settings you want.
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so how do i get back the image which i saw on screen when i shoot it? tongue.gif
how to disable the auto adjust feature in LR? ... sometimes the pic on the camera just needs a little tweaking.

sorry, just started trying to shoot RAW .. hehe. used to shoot jpg all these while.
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Disable import presets so that no presets will be applied for future imports.

Changes made to your pictures are shown in the develop module. You should be able to reset them by undoing a few settings (white balance, brightness, contrast). Then you can just apply the settings to all pictures.

Probably there's a better way to do this. But this is what i can think of for now. Not infront of my home comp with lightroom :\
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QUOTE(Agito666 @ Mar 21 2011, 04:56 PM)
so you are saying you are encourage to shoot in normal and PP the raw file to vivid?
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Let just say this, there is a reason why most of the pro are using RAW files and not JPEG. People would say "Get the white balance right and you don't have to worry about PP-ing later" Well TBH, most of the pro still PP even though the color is just perfect because that "lil bit tweaking" can be give abit "omph" to the image.

Ask anyone who have a real certificate and have been on alot of job can say that RAW files are important laugh.gif
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agito ... u can dwld the view nx2 from nikon site
http://nikonimglib.com/nvnx/index_en_int.html#os-windows
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thanks smile.gif

one more things to ask . if take camera to service/ repair...need take warranty card / shop recipt or not? for my case it is >4 years camera.... hmm.gif
oh wait i dun even have that 2 things laugh.gif but then they allow me to repair or not ?
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QUOTE(mmohdnor @ Mar 21 2011, 04:55 PM)
so how do i get back the image which i saw on screen when i shoot it? tongue.gif
how to disable the auto adjust feature in LR? ... sometimes the pic on the camera just needs a little tweaking.

sorry, just started trying to shoot RAW .. hehe. used to shoot jpg all these while.
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I think you can set it in the settings, I never bother to disable it though.

When you shoot in raw and view in camera, what you see is the preview with settings applied, like what you would see when you shoot in jpeg. If you camera have in-camera raw processing, you can process it with different settings, even adjust the exposure, wb, etc. to ouput to the jpg output you desired.

I think you can change the default preeet for the raw file as well, so it will always use the preset when you import it.
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thanks smile.gif

one more things to ask . if take camera to service/ repair...need take warranty card / shop recipt or not? for my case it is >4 years camera.... hmm.gif
oh wait i dun even have that 2 things laugh.gif but  then they allow me to repair or not ?
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QUOTE(Agito666 @ Mar 21 2011, 05:00 PM)
thanks smile.gif

one more things to ask . if take camera to service/ repair...need take warranty card / shop recipt or not? for my case it is >4 years camera.... hmm.gif
oh wait i dun even have that 2 things laugh.gif but  then they allow me to repair or not ?
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It doesn't matter what picture control you shoot, because when you import to LR you basically define what settings you want.
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so the LR is so advance until few clicks to do the PP? laugh.gif
i thought need smudge this, brush that, patch there like that biggrin.gif
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Buahaha, i feel good now. Within this month i successfully converted 3 ppl to jumpship from canon. biggrin.gif
Should give you the Darth Vader title. biggrin.gif

QUOTE(Agito666 @ Mar 21 2011, 04:03 PM)
Had to re-adjust all colour... now my target skill is shoot until no need PP  laugh.gif
WB looks good.

QUOTE(Terbulance @ Mar 21 2011, 04:35 PM)
The best is shoot raw so you can change the white balance, picture control and other things later in your com. I use ViewNX 2 to do so. Just that raw files need big space sweat.gif
Big space? 1TB and 2TB drives are cheap nowadays.

QUOTE(mmohdnor @ Mar 21 2011, 04:46 PM)
correcting the color and white balance again is very tricky ... sad.gif
*i shoot products too. and corecting the the colors/whitebalance is important to me. i want them to look natural and the color matches the real item as much as possible.  blush.gif
I take it you shoot under the same lighting condition for your products? If that's the case, whatever you tweak and change on the WB can be saved and re-used again to apply corrected WB on the other files if you're shooting RAW.

QUOTE(Andy214 @ Mar 21 2011, 04:51 PM)
Lightroom have preset settings for RAW files, so it will adjust the brightness, contrast, etc when you import the RAW files and loaded the presets.

There is also Lens correction which you can apply.
Strange thing is he says his WB changes. As far as I know, the WB does not change unless you tell LR to change the WB.

QUOTE(Agito666 @ Mar 21 2011, 04:56 PM)
so you are saying you are encourage to shoot in normal and PP the raw file to vivid?
Vivid is usually not good for skin tones. But of course if you use LR to PP, it'll ignore the in-camera settings and your NEF files will look normal without any settings applied.


QUOTE(ComradeZ @ Mar 21 2011, 05:00 PM)
Let just say this, there is a reason why most of the pro are using RAW files and not JPEG. People would say "Get the white balance right and you don't have to worry about PP-ing later" Well TBH, most of the pro still PP even though the color is just perfect because that "lil bit tweaking" can be give abit "omph" to the image.

Ask anyone who have a real certificate and have been on alot of job can say that RAW files are important laugh.gif
Getting WB right in the camera is important not just because you need less PPing. It has got to do with noise. Wrong WB will give more noise after WB correction.

QUOTE(Agito666 @ Mar 21 2011, 05:00 PM)
thanks smile.gif

one more things to ask . if take camera to service/ repair...need take warranty card / shop recipt or not? for my case it is >4 years camera.... hmm.gif
oh wait i dun even have that 2 things laugh.gif but  then they allow me to repair or not ?
Sure they do since it's a Nikon camera. So long as you pay of course. No need receipt because the product itself is out of warranty.



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Most important, $$$  tongue.gif
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okay, wait march salary come first laugh.gif now got 1k only...scare over budget... save until 1.8k~2k for repair first.... nod.gif
oh wait , nikon product usually warrantly how many years? i know mine is over...jsut wan to know haha. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Agito666 @ Mar 21 2011, 05:07 PM)
okay, wait march salary come first laugh.gif now got 1k only...scare over budget... save until 1.8k~2k for repair first.... nod.gif
oh wait  , nikon product usually warrantly how many years? i know mine is over...jsut wan to know haha.  tongue.gif
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1k should be more than enough. tongue.gif
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okay, wait march salary come first laugh.gif now got 1k only...scare over budget... save until 1.8k~2k for repair first.... nod.gif
oh wait  , nikon product usually warrantly how many years? i know mine is over...jsut wan to know haha.  tongue.gif
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Perhaps what you can do is ask for them to access the damage and come back to you with a quote. If acceptable, proceed. If not, just keep the camera.

If your repair is close to 2k, might as well junk your camera and get a new one. Not worth it.
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1k should be more than enough. tongue.gif
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you are actually studying or working? tongue.gif
studying in cyberjaya? laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Agito666 @ Mar 21 2011, 05:12 PM)
better be save  tongue.gif
you are actually studying or working? tongue.gif
studying in cyberjaya?  laugh.gif
missed that day we climb up the putrajaya bridge and talk ghost stories at top there, sit on the "metal fence"-like stair case on top with strong winds...
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we?? I think that must be a wrong person.
I am currently studying and working.
or you can follow the advice of jchue
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QUOTE(jchue73 @ Mar 21 2011, 05:05 PM)
Strange thing is he says his WB changes. As far as I know, the WB does not change unless you tell LR to change the WB.
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Not sure how he define the WB changed, unless he specifically compare the WB settings, if by looking at the picture alone in camera, then there can be many factors, such as the monitor, then the contrast applied on the picture when loaded in LR with preets, etc.

To know the actual WB changed or not, will need to check the data of the image.
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QUOTE(Agito666 @ Mar 21 2011, 05:12 PM)
better be save  tongue.gif
you are actually studying or working? tongue.gif
studying in cyberjaya?  laugh.gif
missed that day we climb up the putrajaya bridge and talk ghost stories at top there, sit on the "metal fence"-like stair case on top with strong winds...
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U can ask them to quote u the price first before fix ma. They wont charge u wat...
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we?? I think that must be a wrong person.
I am currently studying and working.
or you can follow the advice of jchue
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sorry broken english...
i mean my gang... not sure now putra jaya still allow car park at bridge or not, last time we manage to park and snap like crazy. but i dun keep the photos.

since you sounds like still stuying there...so i duno there still the cars still allowed to park there at late night? last time used to be very empty environment at late night laugh.gif
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QUOTE(C_Sagi @ Mar 21 2011, 05:17 PM)
U can ask them to quote u the price first before fix ma. They wont charge u wat...
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QUOTE(Agito666 @ Mar 21 2011, 05:18 PM)
sorry broken english...
i mean my gang... not sure now putra jaya still allow car park at bridge or not, last time we manage to park and snap like crazy. but i dun keep the photos.

since you sounds like still stuying there...so i duno there still the cars still allowed to park there at late night? last time used to be very empty environment at late night laugh.gif
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nah.. I have no idea about parking lot in putra jaya. how you can assume I am studying in putra jaya.? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(razuryza @ Mar 21 2011, 05:21 PM)
u want the quote, u pay rm20 for quoatation
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I tot they dont charge the inspection fee thingy like canon wan ?
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I tot they dont charge the inspection fee thingy like canon wan ?
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lucky i got ask...now pop out need inspection fees shocking.gif
anyway dilemma wait the event clean up sensor then send to service to fix top lcd or straight service it... rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(Agito666 @ Mar 21 2011, 05:27 PM)
lucky i got ask...now pop out need inspection fees  shocking.gif
anyway dilemma wait the event clean up sensor then send to service to fix top lcd or straight service it...  rolleyes.gif
(i really a headache person haha...cannot decide many things sweat.gif )
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too bad you are a guy. now I want to punch you. doh.gif
suck being a guy with no ability to decide. whistling.gif

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QUOTE(aldosoesilo @ Mar 21 2011, 05:23 PM)
nah.. I have no idea about parking lot in putra jaya. how you can assume I am studying in putra jaya.? hmm.gif
I am in bukit jalil. both working and study in Bukit Jalil
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because i thought from this "repeat the degree to watch the hot air balloon"... laugh.gif
and hot air balloon usually is in putra jaya right? Putra jaya and Cyber jaya is near...usually nearby got activities like fireworks, hot air balloon sure got a lot students near there will go there since they are nothing to do in free time except assignment. laugh.gif

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QUOTE(jchue73 @ Mar 21 2011, 05:05 PM)
Getting WB right in the camera is important not just because you need less PPing. It has got to do with noise. Wrong WB will give more noise after WB correction.
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Hm... something new learned... I thought adjusting under-expose will introduce more noise. This will be difficult during event shooting as we can't always get the right WB.

Shooting under-expose image with lower iso will give mopre noise than shooting right exposure with higher iso.
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No wait, so confirm now even nikon charge for inspection fee ?
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QUOTE(Andy214 @ Mar 21 2011, 05:31 PM)
Hm... something new learned... I thought adjusting under-expose will introduce more noise. This will be difficult during event shooting as we can't always get the right WB.
Yes, difficult to get correct. Trying to get the right WB is tricky especially under mixed lighting. Getting your flash to match the mixed lighting was difficult too. Nowadays, the current Nikon DSLRs have very good high ISO. Minor WB tweaks is fine and not so apparent unless you shoot extreme Sunny WB and change to Tungsten under low light.

QUOTE(Andy214 @ Mar 21 2011, 05:31 PM)
Shooting under-expose image with lower iso will give mopre noise than shooting right exposure with higher iso.
Yup. Back when before D3 and D700 were available, it is a common trick to overexpose and then PP back to the right exposure to reduce noise.
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QUOTE(jchue73 @ Mar 21 2011, 05:42 PM)
Yes, difficult to get correct. Trying to get the right WB is tricky especially under mixed lighting. Getting your flash to match the mixed lighting was difficult too. Nowadays, the current Nikon DSLRs have very good high ISO. Minor WB tweaks is fine and not so apparent unless you shoot extreme Sunny WB and change to Tungsten under low light.
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It's tricky especially if you're shooting event and have no time to set the wb, will use auto and trust the camera, even so when I pp, will notice the wb not consistent due to different condtion of lighting as you move around. Usually these are just minor tweaks

Talk about flash, it gives different wb feel comapred to no flash, hence, the natural vs with lighting. The hard to get WYSIWYG image is even harder with flash, but you can get some nice effect or lighting with flash off the wall. It's harder to get the WYSIWYG image indoors especially like Karaoke room with very dim lightings.

QUOTE(jchue73 @ Mar 21 2011, 05:42 PM)
Yup. Back when before D3 and D700 were available, it is a common trick to overexpose and then PP back to the right exposure to reduce noise.
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Even now I think this trick still applies especially for DX even for D7000 which said to have good high ISO. once shot undereposed, even iso 800 or lower gets really noisy, losing lots of details and sharpness. I guess thats one reason why some people complaint the iso is not good but actually they're under-exposing their image?

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I still try to avoid underexpose even on D700 tongue.gif.
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first wat do u want to shoot? and what camera are u using?
of cos if ur camera got more focus points, it makes it easier to track.
else just make sure u pan better.
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http://www.mitchellkphotos.com/rahmota.html

Using nikon d3100 with only 9 focus point =(




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QUOTE(SSY22 @ Mar 21 2011, 07:26 PM)
Shooting like people doing their things . playing around , interacting. (All the movements can be predicted.) Unlike sport or bird shooting.

http://www.mitchellkphotos.com/rahmota.html

Using nikon d3100 with only 9 focus point =(
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I thought d3100 got 11 focus points.
Anyway not sure how fast d3100 can track, but u should explore its 3D-tracking feature if its just 1 person etc...
else i would just use single point af-c...unless u really trust one of its 11 points in dynamic to actually lock on to what u want to focus.
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QUOTE(Everdying @ Mar 21 2011, 07:48 PM)
I thought d3100 got 11 focus points.
Anyway not sure how fast d3100 can track, but u should explore its 3D-tracking feature if its just 1 person etc...
else i would just use single point af-c...unless u really trust one of its 11 points in dynamic to actually lock on to what u want to focus.
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Sorry, is 11 focus point.

I tested yesterday. I will stick to AF-C + Single point , because i can predict my subject.

Im using AF-ON btw.

http://imaging.nikon.com/products/imaging/...speed_accuracy/

The above site got very nice info about it although is D3X , but still can applied in every nikon camera.


Added on March 21, 2011, 7:59 pmhttp://imaging.nikon.com/products/imaging/technology/d-technology/autofocus/02sensor/index.htm


Added on March 21, 2011, 8:46 pmOne more , when im using AF-C+ Single Point with AF-On.

Let say im shooting stationary thing. I use af-on to focus , then i release the af-on but my focus does not lock one . Is it because my camera AF-on different with high end camera body? (i set my AE-L,AF-L button to become AF-On)

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How to use the AF-On technique in the field

To emulate single-servo mode (focus/recompose/shoot)

Place the active AF point on your subject
Press the AF-On button to acquire focus
Release the AF-On button to lock focus
Recompose and shoot
To focus continuously on a moving subject

Place the active AF point on the subject
Press the AF-On button
Keep the AF-On button pressed to track focus while simultaneously pressing the shutter release
Remember to initiate the VR system (if your lens supports it) by half-pressing the shutter button prior to releasing the shutter. Remember, VR takes about a half-second to stabilize, so you’ll want to anticipate your subject.

http://www.luminescentphoto.com/blog/2010/...f-on-technique/

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depends on my import source. if it's fresh from cf card: Copy and Add (to copy to HDD and add to catalog)

if it's from my HDD: Add.

No need DNG conversion for me as I'm highly unlikely to use/share the raw file with others.

All changes made to the Raw file are recorded and saved but still the raw file are left untouched so you can go back and forth through your steps.
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Hmm... so DNG is not necessary. I googled around for info and many of them actually suggested DNG because it saves 15~20% space without losing details over RAW.

Please do correct me if I'm wrong, the changes made will be saved into the "catalog" aka "database" instead of the raw files itself? Therefore, if I lost the catalog, I'll lost all the touch-up I made? In addition, the raw will remain untouched?
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Workshop is free one izzit?

Wanna go for documentary photography and street photography workshop
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Something for you guys here.
Nikon Malaysia 10th Anniversary

Program of events:

Thursday (31st March 2011):

2.00pm - 9.00pm: Exhibition Hall Open to Public

7:00pm - 9:00pm: Photography Talk by Manny Librodo (Philippines)

Friday (1st April 2011):

11:00:00 AM: Exhibition Hall Open to Public

6.30pm - 7.00pm: Model Photo Shooting Contest

7:00pm - 9:00pm: Photography Talk by Cede Prudente (Malaysia)

Saturday (2nd April 2011):

11:00:00 AM: Exhibition Hall Open to Public

11:00am - 1:00pm: Photography Talk by MizzStudio - Ming Tze & Michelle (Malaysia)

2:00pm - 4:00pm: Photography Talk by Stefen Chow (Singapore)

4.00pm - 4.30pm: Model Photo Shooting Contest

4:30pm - 6:30pm: Photography Talk by Khaled Hasan (Bangladesh)

6.15pm - 6.30pm: Winner Announcement for Nikon Annual Photo Award

6.30pm - 7.00pm: Model Photo Shooting Contest

7:00pm - 9:00pm: Photography Talk by Ahmad Zamroni (Indonesia)

Sunday (3rd April 2011):

11:00:00 AM: Exhibition Hall Open to Public

11:00am - 1:00pm: Photography Talk by Dr. Teh Ban Hup (Malaysia)

2:00pm - 4:00pm: Photography Talk by Jim Liaw (Malaysia)

4.00pm - 4.30pm: Model Photo Shooting Contest

4:30pm - 6:30pm: Photography Talk by Deanna Ng (Singapore)

6.30pm - 7.00pm: Model Photo Shooting Contest

8.00pm: Winner Announcement for Model Photo Shooting Contest

7:00pm - 9:00pm: Photography Talk by Khalid Redza (Malaysia)

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Other exciting all-day events:

1. Featuring full range of Nikon DSLR, Coolpix and accessories.

2. Showcase of iconic Nikon cameras from past to present.

3. Learn about the Nikon Professional Services for professional photographers.

4. Launch of Nikon Club Malaysia.

5. Complimentary Sensor Cleaning for Nikon cameras (Friday to Sunday)

6. Be Creative with Nikon contest. 5 Coolpix S3100 to be won.

7. "Beauty Beyond Words" Model Photo Shooting Contest. 3 best photographers to walk away with Coolpix P7000.

8. Surprise Contests.

9. Exclusive 10th anniversary goodies to give away and more!

Might want to update it on the first page
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may I ask "where's this exhibition?"
sorry for being lazy.
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QUOTE(s6xs9x @ Mar 21 2011, 10:48 PM)
may I ask "where's this exhibition?"
sorry for being lazy.
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guys. mind share what bag u guys using? and the equipments u guys put in?

wanna get a bag but donno which to get
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mid valley.

guys. mind share what bag u guys using? and the equipments u guys put in?

wanna get a bag but donno which to get
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lowepro?
i like the fabric and the durability of the bag.
no matter how to trash it... it's still good

i basically put everything in.
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QUOTE(ifer @ Mar 21 2011, 11:36 PM)
lowepro?
i like the fabric and the durability of the bag.
no matter how to trash it... it's still good

i basically put everything in.
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yours is those backpack? can put laptop?

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compu rover
yeah

can put laptop but i seldom do it coz it's super heavy after that.
plus, i usually use backpack for my film camera so i don't need a lap top

but i like this bag because it's tough... i mean, i don't really take care of the bag. not to the extend of throwing it but i do a lot of outdoor shooting... no asphalt road type. more like sand, mud etc...
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Guys, my D60 seems to be having some Shutter & other issues problem. Can you guys advise where is the best place to send for servicing and repair? Any experiences please share(would be great too if you can PM me details of location where you guys had send your gadget s for repair before smile.gif )


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AFAIK, LEXAR the best la.
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QUOTE(C_Sagi @ Mar 21 2011, 05:38 PM)
No wait, so confirm now even nikon charge for inspection fee ?
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if ur camera or lens still under warranty, it's free la..

if no warranty, and have to leave the cam to be checked, rm20 will be imposed as deposit. if u continue with the repair, the final cost will deduct the rm20 deposit la.. if dont want to repair after got the quotation. rm20 burn lah
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QUOTE(razuryza @ Mar 22 2011, 12:27 AM)
if ur camera or lens still under warranty, it's free la..

if no warranty, and have to leave the cam to be checked, rm20 will be imposed as deposit. if u continue with the repair, the final cost will deduct the rm20 deposit la.. if dont want to repair after got the quotation. rm20 burn lah
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It is like a bargain of the service that they provide laugh.gif you checked *working* then later say no need repair *no pay* but after that charge imply, I guess that they are not doing inspection for free anymore everything needed to be paid upfront laugh.gif
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QUOTE(SSY22 @ Mar 21 2011, 07:54 PM)
Let say im shooting stationary thing. I use af-on to focus , then i release the af-on but my focus does not lock one . Is it because my camera AF-on different with high end camera body? (i set my AE-L,AF-L button to become AF-On)

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How to use the AF-On technique in the field

To emulate single-servo mode (focus/recompose/shoot)

Place the active AF point on your subject
Press the AF-On button to acquire focus
Release the AF-On button to lock focus
Recompose and shoot
To focus continuously on a moving subject

Place the active AF point on the subject
Press the AF-On button
Keep the AF-On button pressed to track focus while simultaneously pressing the shutter release
Remember to initiate the VR system (if your lens supports it) by half-pressing the shutter button prior to releasing the shutter.  Remember, VR takes about a half-second to stabilize, so you’ll want to anticipate your subject.

http://www.luminescentphoto.com/blog/2010/...f-on-technique/
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already said AF-on basically is replace the half-press of shutter to focus.

you still do not understand what is AF-C, and also AF-S.
time for u to go read the manual.


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mid valley.

guys. mind share what bag u guys using? and the equipments u guys put in?

wanna get a bag but donno which to get
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umm...lowepro passport sling if i want to travel light.
lowepro inverse 200 or toploader 75aw for body + 80-200...tho now im looking at think tank retrospective 20.
flipside 300 if everything tongue.gif

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QUOTE(scotty @ Mar 21 2011, 11:28 PM)
mid valley.

guys. mind share what bag u guys using? and the equipments u guys put in?

wanna get a bag but donno which to get
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kata 33 in 1.

i put

d90 with grip,
my bro's 70-200,
nikkor 50mm, nikkor, 55-200, tokina 11-16, di622, 12 pack of AA batt, chargers, filters,
wireless trigger, all the cables, cards, lens cleaner, blower, and Dell XPS 16 with charger.

owh, i forgot, with a spare shirt.. hehe biggrin.gif plus raynox...

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AF-S : static subject
AF-C : constantly moving subject

I tried AF-C to shoot football game earlier this month. Not very used to it, but it is helpful smile.gif
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taken in long aperture mode with wireless trigger at 1am(pitch black).

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QUOTE(Everdying @ Mar 22 2011, 12:44 AM)
already said AF-on basically is replace the half-press of shutter to focus.

you still do not understand what is AF-C, and also AF-S.
time for u to go read the manual.


Added on March 22, 2011, 12:44 am

umm...lowepro passport sling if i want to travel light.
lowepro inverse 200 or toploader 75aw for body + 80-200...tho now im looking at think tank retrospective 20.
flipside 300 if everything tongue.gif
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are those bags u mentioned expensive?
QUOTE(faareast @ Mar 22 2011, 12:59 AM)
kata 33 in 1.

i put

d90 with grip,
my bro's 70-200,
nikkor 50mm, nikkor, 55-200, tokina 11-16, di622, 12 pack of AA batt, chargers, filters,
wireless trigger, all the cables, cards, lens cleaner, blower, and Dell XPS 16 with charger.

owh, i forgot, with a spare shirt.. hehe biggrin.gif plus raynox...
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wow can put 70-200 in this kata? ok i go see how the bag looks like

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QUOTE(scotty @ Mar 22 2011, 01:56 AM)
are those bags u mentioned expensive?
wow can put 70-200 in this kata? ok i go see how the bag looks like
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Passport sling i see garage sales got ppl selling for rm160...
the rest all rm200-380 depending on used or new.
think tank one is rm550 or so.
Anyway eventually im sure u will end up with more than 1 bag...maybe 5 tongue.gif

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How much does a Lowepro Fastpack 250 cost?
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How much does a Lowepro Fastpack 250 cost?
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http://yamiya.com.my/store/product.php?pro...50&cat=0&page=1

next time, google bro.. dont be too lazy shakehead.gif
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I feel that sling bags are more useful than bagpacks coz it's easier to swap lenses and take camera in or out of the bag. Though I have a bagpack coz it's nicer to carry around sweat.gif
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QUOTE(razuryza @ Mar 22 2011, 04:50 AM)
http://yamiya.com.my/store/product.php?pro...50&cat=0&page=1

next time, google bro.. dont be too lazy  shakehead.gif
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QUOTE(FaezFarhan @ Mar 22 2011, 06:17 AM)
I feel that sling bags are more useful than bagpacks coz it's easier to swap lenses and take camera in or out of the bag. Though I have a bagpack coz it's nicer to carry around sweat.gif
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Wait till you carry a bag full of lenses: 70-200+ 24-70+ Flash and 1 pro body. Shoulder konpirm ache like hell biggrin.gif


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Something for you guys here.
Nikon Malaysia 10th Anniversary
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


Might want to update it on the first page
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Okie. Me want to go also biggrin.gif

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Example of condition where lighting tricks AWB and custom balance won't work due to lighting condition. This is why RAW comes in handy biggrin.gif.
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Thanks to that software !
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Nowadays, I shoot JPEG. Even lighting goes wrong, still can change tongue.gif
Thanks to that software !
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You can adjust the WB and Hue for JPEG, but it doesn't look as good as RAW.
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The software I use, can save JPEG back to NEF. Not as good ? tongue.gif
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You can adjust the WB and Hue for JPEG, but it doesn't look as good as RAW.
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but that one if shoot not nice then had to get RAW right? if nice nice already JPEG enough? hmm.gif laugh.gif
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The software I use, can save JPEG back to NEF. Not as good ? tongue.gif
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Interesting, name of the software?

But I still don't buy the idea, that 'NEF' converted from JPEG will not retain as much details and data compared to the real 12/14 bit NEF. Its still a JPEG in NEF shell.
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QUOTE(FaezFarhan @ Mar 22 2011, 06:17 AM)
I feel that sling bags are more useful than bagpacks coz it's easier to swap lenses and take camera in or out of the bag. Though I have a bagpack coz it's nicer to carry around sweat.gif
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that is why no one really has just 1 bag.
later on u realise ur backpack too much hassle just for balik kampung trips or go jalan jalan, then u will look for something smaller just to travel light...which will usually be a sling.
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QUOTE(KTCY @ Mar 22 2011, 10:41 AM)
The software I use, can save JPEG back to NEF. Not as good ? tongue.gif
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eh i don't think you can.
jpeg is compressed and NEF is uncompressed.

example:

jpeg = 100ml of concentrated juice to make to 1 litre of drink
NEF = 1 litre of concentrated juice to make to 1 litre of drink

so it's impossible to convert jpeg to NEF. the other way round can.
coz when you took the photo, there is only that much of information, where to create new information?
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QUOTE(celciuz @ Mar 22 2011, 10:42 AM)
Interesting, name of the software?
I think he's referring to Capture NX 2? Anyway, I don't think you can change WB and Hue for JPG in Capture NX 2. On the other hand, I heard that in Lightroom, it is possible.

QUOTE(celciuz @ Mar 22 2011, 10:42 AM)
But I still don't buy the idea, that 'NEF' converted from JPEG will not retain as much details and data compared to the real 12/14 bit NEF. Its still a JPEG in NEF shell.
I agree.


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that is why no one really has just 1 bag.
later on u realise ur backpack too much hassle just for balik kampung trips or go jalan jalan, then u will look for something smaller just to travel light...which will usually be a sling.
Yup. I have accumulated a few bags myself. Anybody know where's a good place to get Thinktank Photo's bags around KL/PJ? I know J-One has them. Anywhere else?


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eh i don't think you can.
jpeg is compressed and NEF is uncompressed.

example:

jpeg = 100ml of concentrated juice to make to 1 litre of drink
NEF = 1 litre of concentrated juice to make to 1 litre of drink

so it's impossible to convert jpeg to NEF. the other way round can.
coz when you took the photo, there is only that much of information, where to create new information?
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LOL. That's a good analogy.

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QUOTE(ifer @ Mar 22 2011, 10:49 AM)
eh i don't think you can.
jpeg is compressed and NEF is uncompressed.

example:

jpeg = 100ml of concentrated juice to make to 1 litre of drink
NEF = 1 litre of concentrated juice to make to 1 litre of drink

so it's impossible to convert jpeg to NEF. the other way round can.
coz when you took the photo, there is only that much of information, where to create new information?
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Try Capture NX and see. You can save back to .NEF
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QUOTE(ifer @ Mar 22 2011, 10:49 AM)
eh i don't think you can.
jpeg is compressed and NEF is uncompressed.

example:

jpeg = 100ml of concentrated juice to make to 1 litre of drink
NEF = 1 litre of concentrated juice to make to 1 litre of drink

so it's impossible to convert jpeg to NEF. the other way round can.
coz when you took the photo, there is only that much of information, where to create new information?
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Nice one smile.gif

QUOTE(jchue73 @ Mar 22 2011, 10:49 AM)
I think he's referring to Capture NX 2? Anyway, I don't think you can change WB and Hue for JPG in Capture NX 2. On the other hand, I heard that in Lightroom, it is possible.
I agree.


Added on March 22, 2011, 10:51 am

Yup. I have accumulated a few bags myself. Anybody know where's a good place to get Thinktank Photo's bags around KL/PJ? I know J-One has them. Anywhere else?


Added on March 22, 2011, 10:52 am

LOL. That's a good analogy.
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You can change WB/Hue for JPEG in LR and ACDSee, I think it is also possible in the latest CaptureNX, whoever uses CaptureNX here can help to verify?

I too have 2 bags. One is a sling and another is a backpack style biggrin.gif.
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QUOTE(jchue73 @ Mar 22 2011, 10:49 AM)
I think he's referring to Capture NX 2? Anyway, I don't think you can change WB and Hue for JPG in Capture NX 2. On the other hand, I heard that in Lightroom, it is possible.
I agree.


Added on March 22, 2011, 10:51 am

Yup. I have accumulated a few bags myself. Anybody know where's a good place to get Thinktank Photo's bags around KL/PJ? I know J-One has them. Anywhere else?


Added on March 22, 2011, 10:52 am

LOL. That's a good analogy.
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mitmivec's shop has a few.
camzone in jaya one.
if u dont mind full retail, since most also sell full retail, just go straight to the distro www.hambone.com.my in PJS.
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Nice one smile.gif
You can change WB/Hue for JPEG in LR and ACDSee, I think it is also possible in the latest CaptureNX, whoever uses CaptureNX here can help to verify?

I too have 2 bags. One is a sling and another is a backpack style biggrin.gif.
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Capture NX basically can change everything like what LR or ACDSee can do wink.gif
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QUOTE(KTCY @ Mar 22 2011, 10:55 AM)
Try Capture NX and see. You can save back to .NEF
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Like what I said, it is still a JPEG inside a NEF nutshell. Basically it is still a JPEG.

Even NEF also got a few level of compression, 12-bit and 14-bit. Compressed, Lossless and Uncompressed. JPEG is only 8-bit if not mistaken, no way it could have retained all the details from a real NEF.
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QUOTE(KTCY @ Mar 22 2011, 10:55 AM)
Try Capture NX and see. You can save back to .NEF
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if only you know how compression work you wouldn't impress by how JPEG converted to .NEF. tongue.gif
believe me. you don't know how it work. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(celciuz @ Mar 22 2011, 10:57 AM)
Like what I said, it is still a JPEG inside a NEF nutshell. Basically it is still a JPEG.

Even NEF also got a few level of compression, 12-bit and 14-bit. Compressed, Lossless and Uncompressed. JPEG is only 8-bit if not mistaken, no way it could have retained all the details from a real NEF.
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I know how NEF works la.
What I mean capture NX can change JPEG to it's original WB. Check back my post. I was referring to that. And I dump LR to Capture NX because of this. Of course I'm using a genuine copy of Capture NX2 brows.gif

And I'm telling JPEG can save to .NEF.
I didn't state which level of .NEF la. sleep.gif
Read properly before post.

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if only you know how compression work you wouldn't impress by how JPEG converted to .NEF. tongue.gif
believe me. you don't know how it work.  tongue.gif
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I shoot raw and JPEG. You think I don't know ? sleep.gif
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if only you know how compression work you wouldn't impress by how JPEG converted to .NEF. tongue.gif
believe me. you don't know how it work.  tongue.gif
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That is what I'm trying to say here, the information once compressed it is gone. Details is lost, there's no way you can recover it since the data is not there already :S.
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That is what I'm trying to say here, the information once compressed it is gone. Details is lost, there's no way you can recover it since the data is not there already :S.
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i tried to convert a pic from nef to jpg, then convert the jpeg back to nef with capture nx2. the sizes go like this

nef (ori) = 9.7mb
jpeg = 5.8mb
nef (coverted from jpg) = 13.9mb blink.gif
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KTCY,
how do u think of the NX2?
i havent used it before. previously i was using camera raw (yuck) until i discover capture one (phase one)

omg! that software is awesome. a bit slow and not suitable for event/wedding photographers though. but the conversion of RAW to TIFF is awesome
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I have no idea why. I got the same thing wink.gif
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Read ma post above eiuuuu laugh.gif
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No big deal, even third party software like LR can do it. It just doesn't look as good compared to adjusting from the real NEF.
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KTCY,
how do u think of the NX2?
i havent used it before. previously i was using camera raw (yuck) until i discover capture one (phase one)

omg! that software is awesome. a bit slow and not suitable for event/wedding photographers though. but the conversion of RAW to TIFF is awesome
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I find it very good. Easy to use, one click. But I think capture one should be even better.
For me, I find the color reproduction of RAW much more accurate if compare with LR / camera raw which I used before. That's why I go ask for genuine version tongue.gif

And yes. A bit slow. But can do batch processing also. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(celciuz @ Mar 22 2011, 10:55 AM)
Nice one smile.gif
You can change WB/Hue for JPEG in LR and ACDSee, I think it is also possible in the latest CaptureNX, whoever uses CaptureNX here can help to verify?

I too have 2 bags. One is a sling and another is a backpack style biggrin.gif.
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RAW in LR can even change to D2X color profile brows.gif
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QUOTE(KTCY @ Mar 22 2011, 11:03 AM)
You think I don't know huh ? whistling.gif
I shoot raw and JPEG. You think I don't know ? sleep.gif
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Shooting in RAW and JPEG doesn't make you understand how compression work. really I meant it.
e.g you have 8mb of Jpeg file.
where if you have exactly the same file 12mb in RAW.
you lost 4mb of file detail. which magic software an bring your 4mb details back?

well if you use capture NX see how does it work. does it bring you meta data back?

once you shoot in JPEG the picture is directly compressed. and you convert it back to NEF it's getting uncompressed.
even WinRar can do that.
but doing compression and un-compression for many times doesn't bring your detail of the file else will make you loss the detail of it.

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anyone here got 14-24 f2.8?

do u find the zooming ring abit hard to turn at 20 -24mm? mind very hard to turn. like got some sort of lock
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QUOTE(KTCY @ Mar 22 2011, 11:08 AM)
I find it very good. Easy to use, one click. But I think capture one should be even better.
For me, I find the color reproduction of RAW much more accurate if compare with LR / camera raw which I used before. That's why I go ask for genuine version tongue.gif

And yes. A bit slow. But can do batch processing also. biggrin.gif
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Capture one manage to extract more micro detail from you photo. and of course the colour profile of other cameras thingy.
try to find a copy. you will be amaze what your camera and lens can show (details) that you seemed not to be able to see with NX and camera raw
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QUOTE(ReeNz @ Mar 22 2011, 11:05 AM)
i tried to convert a pic from nef to jpg, then convert the jpeg back to nef with capture nx2. the sizes go like this

nef (ori) = 9.7mb
jpeg = 5.8mb
nef (coverted from jpg) = 13.9mb  blink.gif
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QUOTE(aldosoesilo @ Mar 22 2011, 11:13 AM)
Shooting in RAW and JPEG doesn't make you understand how compression work. really I meant it.
e.g you have 8mb of Jpeg file.
where if you have exactly the same file 12mb in RAW.
you lost 4mb of file detail. which magic software an bring your 4mb details back?

well if you use capture NX see how does it work. does it bring you meta data back?
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QUOTE(scotty @ Mar 22 2011, 11:13 AM)
anyone here got 14-24 f2.8?

do u find the zooming ring abit hard to turn at 20 -24mm? mind very hard to turn. like got some sort of lock
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Nope. Very smooth wink.gif
You bought brand new ?

QUOTE(ifer @ Mar 22 2011, 11:13 AM)
Capture one manage to extract more micro detail from you photo. and of course the colour profile of other cameras thingy.
try to find a copy. you will be amaze what your camera and lens can show (details) that you seemed not to be able to see with NX and camera raw
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I'm looking for that actually. Not sure where to source for full version to try out hmm.gif

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learn more technical stuffs such as shutter speed, aperture and ISO; and how to use them.

best to start by either asking unker google or going through the user manual smile.gif and welcome to the dark side!

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If you are a Nikon user, now you can register for a FREE *membership of the Nikon Club Malaysia by logging on to www.nikonclub.com.my (available from 11 April 2011) to enjoy the photo talks, seminars, workshops, photo trips, posting of images in the gallery, exhibitions, critics to save your shots, contests, products news, members feedbacks and comments, technical information and support, advice on repair service, and much more.

This club is open to all Nikon users including any collectors, photo enthusiasts, hobbyists, serious amateurs, and professionals. Members will have the opportunity to exchange ideas, share their passions of photography among the same users who understands and uses Nikon range of products extensively.

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The sole purpose of the formation of Nikon Club Malaysia is to merge all Nikon users (include Coolpix compact) to have a common voice and a common fraternity club in Malaysia. We believe in the Nikon imaging technology and are proud owners of Nikon cameras and its accessories. We are passionate with photography, and as Nikon users, this fraternity club will be another resource centre to provide a friendly, creative and inspiring atmosphere for enthusiastic photographers to share photography interests and to pursue and grow the final skills of the art of photography regardless of their level of proficiency or location at his or her own pace.

This club is open to all Nikon users including any collectors, photo enthusiasts, hobbyists, serious amateurs, and professionals. Members will have the opportunity to exchange ideas, share their passions of photography among the same users who understands and uses Nikon range of products extensively. This Club will work together with the Nikon Malaysia and the Nikon Centre KL to provide a fast and easy access to the latest Nikon products information, updated industry news, share real hands-on experiences, images and data. Among some of the benefits and programs that are tailored for you are; Photo Contest, Workshops, Forums, Up to date discussions, Photo Galleries, Quarterly Snapshot Newsletter, News, Mentoring Programs, Reviews, Exhibitions, Constructive Critics, Photo Excursions and much more.

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I set single point AF. I want to capture a close up object with one color.
Anyone know how to stop Nikon D3100 camera autofocus while holding snap picture button halfway?
Camera just dont want capture picture and keep focus in and out.

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QUOTE(SIWIS @ Mar 22 2011, 11:37 AM)
I set single point AF. I want to capture a close up object with one color.
Anyone know how to stop Nikon D3100 camera autofocus while holding snap picture button halfway?
Camera just dont want capture picture and keep focus in and out.
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u cant cos got no contrast, use manual focus.
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Using manual focus is really pain in the ass.
Object/model/moment can't wait so sometime need capture fast.

What about setting to 3D tracking can solve problem?
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No it won't.
You might need to understand how auto focus works.

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QUOTE(SIWIS @ Mar 22 2011, 11:42 AM)
Using manual focus is really pain in the ass.
Object/model/moment can't wait so sometime need capture fast.

What about setting to 3D tracking can solve problem?
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As mentioned by Everdying, the subject you focused on didnt have enough contrast for the camera to lock on the focus..so it keeps hunting..and as said by KTCY, u need to understand the principle of focusing smile.gif
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this pic is disturbing tongue.gif
sure la can tell the mom wanna kiss her head etc...but the moment not there...looks more like she want to smell her hair tongue.gif
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QUOTE(SIWIS @ Mar 22 2011, 11:42 AM)
Using manual focus is really pain in the ass.
Object/model/moment can't wait so sometime need capture fast.

What about setting to 3D tracking can solve problem?
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If you know the distance, you can use pre-focus technique, focus on somethingelse of same distance roughly, hold the shutter half way to keep the focus lock or use the AE-L button then move back to your subject. Depend in you want to lock the exposure or not, you can set this in settings.
If you're using wide apeeture and close distance, it'll be harder to get the focus right.

These are the basics when you're using point and shoot or phone camera with no manual focus control.

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Wait till you carry a bag full of lenses: 70-200+ 24-70+ Flash and 1 pro body. Shoulder konpirm ache like hell biggrin.gif
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I carry my laptop, D90 + BG and two batteries, 80-200, 17-50, 50mm, SB900 in it. And yeah for a while than ache, but not that bad  biggrin.gif  tongue.gif
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QUOTE(celciuz @ Mar 22 2011, 11:54 AM)
I carried D700+MB-D10+70200 VRII+1635+85+SB900+10inch netbook. GG almost broke my shoulders -.- Kept switching from left to right and right to left haha~
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That's why my 70-200 always in my drybox brows.gif
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my D70s kit lens + ipad very heavy oledi...in my laptop slingbag...
so if bringing camera to other place i think get backpack better, make 2 shoulder got same weight. tongue.gif

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this pic is disturbing tongue.gif
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are those bags u mentioned expensive?
wow can put 70-200 in this kata? ok i go see how the bag looks like
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QUOTE(KTCY @ Mar 22 2011, 10:55 AM)
Try Capture NX and see. You can save back to .NEF
Saving it, yes. Name sake only. But whether it saves all data that was captured originally? Don't think so.

QUOTE(KTCY @ Mar 22 2011, 11:11 AM)
RAW in LR can even change to D2X color profile brows.gif
I believe that's some sort of calibrated profile. Sort of reverse engineering.

QUOTE(scotty @ Mar 22 2011, 11:13 AM)
anyone here got 14-24 f2.8?
Yes.

QUOTE(scotty @ Mar 22 2011, 11:13 AM)
do u find the zooming ring abit hard to turn at 20 -24mm? mind very hard to turn. like got some sort of lock
I'm quite pleased with mine. Perhaps it needs some lubrication service.

QUOTE(ifer @ Mar 22 2011, 11:13 AM)
Capture one manage to extract more micro detail from you photo. and of course the colour profile of other cameras thingy.
try to find a copy. you will be amaze what your camera and lens can show (details) that you seemed not to be able to see with NX and camera raw
The best conversion you get from Nikon's NEF is still from Capture NX2 unfortunately.

QUOTE(SIWIS @ Mar 22 2011, 11:37 AM)
I set single point AF. I want to capture a close up object with one color.
Anyone know how to stop Nikon D3100 camera autofocus while holding snap picture button halfway?
Camera just dont want capture picture and keep focus in and out.
I suspect you may have reached and pass the limit of the minimum focusing distance (MFD) of the lens. What lens are you using? How close are you to the subject?

QUOTE(scotty @ Mar 22 2011, 12:23 PM)
kytz @ its an old lens. pinjam 1. no budget go buy. LOL.

ok i bring go mid valley service next week
Pinjam? blink.gif So good ah your friend?

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Nowadays only 85 f/1.4g for outings  brows.gif
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Bro, where are you from?

I wanna tag along on wedding jobs to learn more. Anyone based around KL? I'm in Cyberjaya tho smile.gif
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QUOTE(Everdying @ Mar 22 2011, 12:44 AM)
already said AF-on basically is replace the half-press of shutter to focus.

you still do not understand what is AF-C, and also AF-S.
time for u to go read the manual.


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lowepro inverse 200 or toploader 75aw for body + 80-200...tho now im looking at think tank retrospective 20.
flipside 300 if everything tongue.gif
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Hmm sorry my bad. I make you misunderstand

You look at the video , he said after release af-on , the focus will locked . That why i wonder why mine cannot lock one if using af-on . but using af-l can lock focus(w/o release the button)

Maybe is the video maker mistake?

I just curious about this. I know af-on is act like half pressed shutter button but abit advanced of it.

How to use the AF-On technique in the field
To emulate single-servo mode (focus/recompose/shoot)

1.Place the active AF point on your subject
2.Press the AF-On button to acquire focus
3.Release the AF-On button to lock focus <--------i just wonder why mine af-on cannot lock focus one
4.Recompose and shoot <------ i use af-on to acquire focus edi then i release , i able to shoot (press shutter button) w/o recompose my picture. once i recompose and shoot , i cannot press shutter button. I just wonder why he said can recompose and shoot. this is my problem.

http://www.usa.canon.com/dlc/controller?ac...&articleID=2286

http://www.luminescentphoto.com/blog/2010/...nique/#more-480

I not asking about af-s and af-c anymore. I understand after u taught me.

Sorry ,y bad english , if you dont understand i try to rephrase again thanks u
Sorry if i m asking wrong question

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Hmm sorry my bad. I make you misunderstand

You look at the video , he said after release af-on , the focus will locked . That why i wonder why mine cannot lock one if using af-on . but using af-l can lock focus.

Maybe is the video maker mistake?

I just curious about this. I know af-on is act like half pressed shutter button but abit advanced of it.

How to use the AF-On technique in the field
To emulate single-servo mode (focus/recompose/shoot)

1.Place the active AF point on your subject
2.Press the AF-On button to acquire focus
3.Release the AF-On button to lock focus <--------i just wonder why mine af-on cannot lock focus one.
4.Recompose and shoot

http://www.luminescentphoto.com/blog/2010/...nique/#more-480

I not asking about af-s and af-c anymore. I understand after u taught me.

Sorry ,y bad english , if you dont understand i try to rephrase again thanks u
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single-servo mode = AF-S.
lock focus = lock focus on the subject at a FIXED distance, if the subject moves forward or backward just slap the subject and ask him to stay still.
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single-servo mode = AF-S.
lock focus = lock focus on the subject at a FIXED distance, if the subject moves forward or backward just slap the subject and ask him to stay still.
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but subject can move left and right right? biggrin.gif
wait i upload some photo is it called lock focus? let's say got 2 ppl in photo...then i lock focus and shift a bit... hmm.gif
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Bro, where are you from?

I wanna tag along on wedding jobs to learn more. Anyone based around KL? I'm in Cyberjaya tho smile.gif
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u wanna tag wif me ?? what gear u ade ? smile.gif just nak tau .
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this time shoot with RAW and PP with NX viewer 2 blush.gif

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u exam rite . focus on ur study la brada .  tongue.gif  tongue.gif
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I am done with my exam tongue.gif exam was last two weeks ago. sweat.gif
come let's go shoot. bored la wei nothing to do in weekends. hahaha

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aku bukit jalil la bro ...
u wanna tag wif me ?? what gear u ade ? smile.gif just nak tau .
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I am done with my exam tongue.gif exam was last two weeks ago.  sweat.gif
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i'll invite both of u to tag with me nanti.
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QUOTE(Everdying @ Mar 22 2011, 10:56 AM)
mitmivec's shop has a few.
camzone in jaya one.
if u dont mind full retail, since most also sell full retail, just go straight to the distro www.hambone.com.my in PJS.
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Capture NX basically can change everything like what LR or ACDSee can do wink.gif
I just checked. You cannot.

Compare between real NEF and NEF that is saved from JPG.

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The best conversion you get from Nikon's NEF is still from Capture NX2 unfortunately.
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Thanks for the info. I will call them up and look for them. smile.gif
I just checked. You cannot.

Compare between real NEF and NEF that is saved from JPG.

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oh ya?
says who?
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dont know why but i trust Adobe Lightroom ...
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I bet he never come across capture one ? unsure.gif
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each of us have a different type of RAW conversion because each of us take different type of photographs.
event/wedding photographers prefer lightroom 3 because of the new noise reduction that works like a charm.
some professionals perfer the aperture 3.
some will go back to capture NX (the slide thing on image is awesome)
and some prefer the capture one
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I find topaz noise reduction better than LR. Own preference tho smile.gif
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oppss i forgot to include camera raw. lol

what i can advice is take one near to perfect shot in terms on sharpness, details and exposure.

process it in various different kind of software. don't do a lot of sharpening or adjustment in the software, just convert it to TIFF only.
open it on photoshop and see the different each image is.
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nikon knows their own raw file algorithm better than anyone else. it's their algorithm what...

that said, by no means other party interpretation of the nikon raw file are sloppy. personally i find the difference nothing to be picky about.
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I use Lightroom, but in the end also open the file with Photoshop through Camera Raw with the settings saved in the .xmp format.
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A comparison done !
http://www.prophotoshow.net/2009/02/26/noi...mparisonreview/

I just googled laugh.gif
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photoshop and lightroom both uses the same camera raw la :|
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QUOTE(fubs @ Mar 22 2011, 04:35 PM)
nikon knows their own raw file algorithm better than anyone else. it's their algorithm what...

that said, by no means other party interpretation of the nikon raw file are sloppy. personally i find the difference nothing to be picky about.
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I used to use LR for 2-3 years before I got my hand on NX2.
I feel LR color and NX2 color different by quite a bit. hmm.gif
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i'll invite both of u to tag with me nanti.
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okay.. waiting for a text from you bro. tongue.gif
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oh ya?
says who?
You can also ask around if you think I'm wrong.

You have better connections with Nikon. Ask them. biggrin.gif

For volume and speed, I would use Lightroom. For quality, it's NX2.

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The adjust button above ? Can't click ?
Nope.

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I bet he never come across capture one ? unsure.gif
What makes you so sure I have not tried Capture One? whistling.gif

QUOTE(KTCY @ Mar 22 2011, 04:35 PM)
Good find. The review done was on noise reduction. I thought the original discussion was about the best RAW/NEF convertor.

Anyway, the best noise reduction ever to come out from Nikon is the D3s/D3/D700. laugh.gif nod.gif
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For volume and speed, I would use Lightroom. For quality, it's NX2.
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i think dun give them original photo to compare then okay edi... no need compare. whistling.gif
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but i thought the NX 2 is the best. i am sure one can sacrifice a bit of time for best result which is something permanent. clients don't take excuses like oh i dont have enough time hence i use the 2nd best conversion for you.
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But if you need to do processing on them, won't Camera Raw be the best option? Instead of NEF -> JPEG -> Photoshop -> JPEG.

Go from NEF -> Photoshop -> JPEG.
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QUOTE(ifer @ Mar 22 2011, 05:32 PM)
but i thought the NX 2 is the best. i am sure one can sacrifice a bit of time for best result which is something permanent. clients don't take excuses like oh i dont have enough time hence i use the 2nd best conversion for you.
There's no such thing as best software. Depends on what you are willing to trade off. Speed or quality.

Sorry. I don't think I'm qualified to answer as I'm neither a client or somebody who shoots for a living. I personally think it depends on the client. If the client is picky, then he has the right to say that your prints are not up to standard and you don't get paid. Else, the client accepts it and you're happy.

Besides like what Agito666 said, if they do not have a something to compare, how are they going to complain?
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okay.. waiting for a text from you bro. tongue.gif
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Go from NEF -> Photoshop -> JPEG.
To get the best, use NX2 and convert your NEF to TIFF. Open the TIFF file in Photoshop and do your magic there and flatten / apply colour profile / convert to JPG.

In my opinion, the route above is only when you want the photo to become something special and more arty. You would probably select the best few of them and probably run them through skin softening etc. If you shot your photos correct, I don't see a reason for using Photoshop.
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if you're talking clients, the only thing that matters is the output lah. you may use capturenx, lr, transfer to film, rescan, photoshop, etc etc;

no matter what method you use oso can la as long as the output is nice, youre proud of it and the client likes it. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(fubs @ Mar 22 2011, 07:54 PM)
if you're talking clients, the only thing that matters is the output lah. you may use capturenx, lr, transfer to film, rescan, photoshop, etc etc;

no matter what method you use oso can la as long as the output is nice, youre proud of it and the client likes it. biggrin.gif
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there are clients who will reject you right away if you present them with JPGs.
especially those in fashion etc, and who print huge ads etc.

if ur talking about wedding clients etc, sure most of them dont care.

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QUOTE(jchue73 @ Mar 22 2011, 06:38 PM)
To get the best, use NX2 and convert your NEF to TIFF. Open the TIFF file in Photoshop and do your magic there and flatten / apply colour profile / convert to JPG.

In my opinion, the route above is only when you want the photo to become something special and more arty. You would probably select the best few of them and probably run them through skin softening etc. If you shot your photos correct, I don't see a reason for using Photoshop.
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NEF -> TIFF -> Photoshop -> JPEG is better than NEF -> Photoshop -> JPEG? Even with the extra step?

Well, photoshop is almost certainly require if you're talking about portraiture. Probably for landscaping and the rest you don't need it as much. But I'm still aiming at something like what my friend does for his wedding jobs, (very far away from it sad.gif, also kinda lazy at times).

Examples done by my friend,

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He did demonstrated to me how he did those and it was quite a lot of steps involving layers and layers. Dodging, burning, textures, masking etc.
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So who going to mid valley next Saturday?
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screw midvalley on the weekends tongue.gif
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QUOTE(C_Sagi @ Mar 22 2011, 08:45 PM)
So who going to mid valley next Saturday?
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Thursday go attend Manny Librodo talk. tongue.gif

I'm going on Saturdays and Sundays too. Wanna meet up? smile.gif
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i wish there will be somebody to invite me to tag along~ although i just use cheapo gears biggrin.gif
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i am also another el cheapo gear user ... whistling.gif
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Thursday go attend Manny Librodo talk. tongue.gif

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i am also another el cheapo gear user ...    whistling.gif
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good for ur haul bro...
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as i heard dat it's sharper den dis...
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good for ur haul bro...
btw...
y not getting d f2d...?
as i heard dat it's sharper den dis...
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When I read the reviews most people say not much difference. Just that it's a good investment for FX later. But for me FX is still far far away sad.gif

So save money for other stuff tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Terbulance @ Mar 22 2011, 10:49 PM)
When I read the reviews most people say not much difference. Just that it's a good investment for FX later. But for me FX is still far far away sad.gif

So save money for other stuff tongue.gif
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what is the price diff?
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QUOTE(Terbulance @ Mar 22 2011, 10:49 PM)
When I read the reviews most people say not much difference. Just that it's a good investment for FX later. But for me FX is still far far away sad.gif

So save money for other stuff tongue.gif
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35mm f2>35mm 1.8

Sharp and just few hundred bucks different right?

35mm 1.8g got CA issue.

But since u bought it , just enjoy shooting rclxms.gif

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I think it's around 200-300 difference. I know 35mm f2 better but i'm happy with just 35mm f1.8 smile.gif

One thing I notice is when I use manual focus, it doesn't stop at the max/min focus point and I can continue to turn the focus ring (just that it's a bit harder to turn). Other 35mm f1.8 owner please clarify whether it's normal or not sad.gif

What's CA issue?
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QUOTE(Terbulance @ Mar 22 2011, 11:37 PM)
I think it's around 200-300 difference. I know 35mm f2 better but i'm happy with just 35mm f1.8 smile.gif

One thing I notice is when I use manual focus, it doesn't stop at the max/min focus point and I can continue to turn the focus ring (just that it's a bit harder to turn). Other 35mm f1.8 owner please clarify whether it's normal or not sad.gif

What's CA issue?
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forgot how my 35mm was, but some lens the focus ring can turn 360.
so shouldnt be anything to worry about.
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i wish there will be somebody to invite me to tag along~ although i just use cheapo gears biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(celciuz @ Mar 22 2011, 08:21 PM)
NEF -> TIFF -> Photoshop -> JPEG is better than NEF -> Photoshop -> JPEG? Even with the extra step?

Well, photoshop is almost certainly require if you're talking about portraiture. Probably for landscaping and the rest you don't need it as much. But I'm still aiming at something like what my friend does for his wedding jobs, (very far away from it sad.gif, also kinda lazy at times).

Examples done by my friend,
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He did demonstrated to me how he did those and it was quite a lot of steps involving layers and layers. Dodging, burning, textures, masking etc.
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that is photoChop liao tongue.gif ...

like this?
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i was flammed "psyco" before because manually erase the joints line . sweat.gif

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Thursday go attend Manny Librodo talk. tongue.gif

I'm going on Saturdays and Sundays too. Wanna meet up? smile.gif
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that is photoChop liao  tongue.gif ...

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i was flammed "psyco" before because manually erase the joints line . sweat.gif
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not psycho enough, must PP someone's face on to it tongue.gif
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anyway just a joke/troll photo. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(cik_tak @ Mar 22 2011, 11:41 PM)
your gear is much more expensive then me bro . i shoot wedding mostly on 50mm f1.8.
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really? u shoot MOSTLY on 50mm 1.8.. for me, that is the only lens i can use for now during wedding~ hehe, beside the tokina UWA..

p/s: so can i tag along with u when i free? hehe
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QUOTE(faareast @ Mar 22 2011, 11:54 PM)
really? u shoot MOSTLY on 50mm 1.8.. for me, that is the only lens i can use for now during wedding~ hehe, beside the tokina UWA..

p/s: so can i tag along with u when i free? hehe
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yes bro .. sample of mine using 50mm f1.8
repost this pics

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i'll try to invite nanti .. but not all at 1 time.

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QUOTE(cik_tak @ Mar 23 2011, 12:09 AM)
yes bro .. sample of mine using 50mm f1.8
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i'll try to invite nanti .. but not all at 1 time.
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lol like that better organize a shoot then. I mean since some of people are interested so why not make it official by hiring a model and putting up fees?
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QUOTE(Terbulance @ Mar 22 2011, 11:37 PM)
I think it's around 200-300 difference. I know 35mm f2 better but i'm happy with just 35mm f1.8 smile.gif

One thing I notice is when I use manual focus, it doesn't stop at the max/min focus point and I can continue to turn the focus ring (just that it's a bit harder to turn). Other 35mm f1.8 owner please clarify whether it's normal or not sad.gif

What's CA issue?
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That's normal for 35mm f1.8g..the focus ring can turn 360 without stopping sweat.gif CA stands for chromatic aberration..
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QUOTE(faareast @ Mar 22 2011, 11:54 PM)
really? u shoot MOSTLY on 50mm 1.8.. for me, that is the only lens i can use for now during wedding~ hehe, beside the tokina UWA..

p/s: so can i tag along with u when i free? hehe
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if u remember jsc_tidus, he covers a wedding with 116 + 50mm F1.8 + fisheye budden he snap damn nice
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QUOTE(ReeNz @ Mar 23 2011, 12:47 AM)
That's normal for 35mm f1.8g..the focus ring can turn 360 without stopping  sweat.gif CA stands for chromatic aberration..
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I thought there's something wrong with the ring since my kit lens can't do it sweat.gif

No wonder some pics I snap colour a bit wierd, so it's called CA hmm.gif

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I thought there's something wrong with the ring since my kit lens can't do it sweat.gif

No wonder some pics I snap colour a bit wierd, so it's called CA hmm.gif

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lol like that better organize a shoot then. I mean since some of people are interested so why not make it official by hiring a model and putting up fees?
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organised photoshoot diff from the situation during real wedding day~
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i went for a TT organised by EddiePutera and really enjoyed myself (so i carbon copied his TT template.. hehe. tq cikgu!)

When : Wednesday 23rd March 2011
Where : Devi's Corner, TTDI (Devi's Corner, 38 Jalan Datuk Sulaiman Taman Tun Dr Ismail)
Map : http://www.havanaestudio.com/graphic...tdirectory.gif
Time : 8pm to 10:20pm, then 11:20pm til 12am

All are welcome especially newbies who wanna get some photo tips and such. Bring also your pictures and get em oldies to comment em. Bring your latest gear and poison the poor person sitting next to you. Do whatever you like but we aint gonna talk about politics. That's for sure.

anyone going to the above?
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organised photoshoot diff from the situation during real wedding day~
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i am organizing a shoot now. currently left 3 slots. 5:1
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there are clients who will reject you right away if you present them with JPGs.
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There's no such thing as best software. Depends on what you are willing to trade off. Speed or quality.
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you said that yourself. unless we are not talking about best software for NEF here
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QUOTE(celciuz @ Mar 22 2011, 08:21 PM)
NEF -> TIFF -> Photoshop -> JPEG is better than NEF -> Photoshop -> JPEG? Even with the extra step?
Don't understand your question. How do you get from NEF to Photoshop without NX2? You use ACR?

ACR does not interpret NEF files the best. NX2 must be in the equation when you open NEF files.

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im only going on thu.
screw midvalley on the weekends tongue.gif
You're lucky you get to do that. People who have to work, no choice. Only weekends.

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The best conversion you get from Nikon's NEF is still from Capture NX2 unfortunately.

you said that yourself. unless we are not talking about best software for NEF here
Aiyoh... doh.gif Please don't start to play with words and take sentences out of their context.

Yes, it's the best software for NEF conversion if you're basically comparing output only. That's what the original discussion was about. Then came in issues like noise reduction and speed.

Of course like camera and lenses, softwares likes NX2 and Lightroom are tools of the trade. It's not for everybody lah. What works for one does not mean it would work for another. For volume work like wedding photography, speed and volume is more important. This is why many are still not using NX2. You need a powerful CPU and lots of memory and at times, the software will still hang.

Of course this does not also mean that people who do not use NX2 automatically give lousy photos. I've seen people with Lightroom who do wonderful photos.
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@jchue73, you might not know who is ifer sleep.gif
He speak base on his experience which I think none of us here can beat his experience in photography.

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i guess misundertand again? hmm.gif
ifer said "best" software, i guessing he is saying "quality"?
while jchue's point is ... best software is depend on user's opinion, speed or quality or both...

just like car horsepower strong but use petrol like drink water also not best what. laugh.gif

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QUOTE(KTCY @ Mar 23 2011, 09:00 AM)
@jchue73, you might not know who is ifer sleep.gif
He speak base on his experience which I think none of us here can beat his experience in photography.
Yes, he has the experience and background education but that does not mean that he cannot be misinformed?

If somebody tells me I'm wrong, I will go back and find out for myself and see if I'm indeed wrong. I will humbly admit and move on to say that I've learned something new today if indeed what I said earlier was incorrect. Perhaps being at where he is makes it harder to take it from a nobody like me? biggrin.gif Being stubborn is clearly not the way the way forward. If he chooses to differ in opinion, I'm perfectly fine with it.

QUOTE(Agito666 @ Mar 23 2011, 09:16 AM)
i guess misundertand again?  hmm.gif
ifer said "best" software, i guessing he is saying "quality"?
while jchue's point is ... best software is depend on user's opinion, speed or quality or both...

just like car horsepower strong but use petrol like drink water also not best what. laugh.gif
I don't think it's a misunderstanding. If you look at his original post and my reply, it's clear what he was referring to and what I replied.

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Well, this is not the first case of you laugh.gif

p/s : I mean stubborn and insist you're right. Ok. I rest my case. You can go on with ifer. Lazy laugh.gif

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wow.why is that so?
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QUOTE(jchue73 @ Mar 23 2011, 09:30 AM)
Yes, he has the experience and background education but that does not mean that he cannot be misinformed?

If somebody tells me I'm wrong, I will go back and find out for myself and see if I'm indeed wrong. I will humbly admit and move on to say that I've learned something new today if indeed what I said earlier was incorrect. Perhaps being at where he is makes it harder to take it from a nobody like me?  biggrin.gif  Being stubborn is clearly not the way the way forward. If he chooses to differ in opinion, I'm perfectly fine with it.
I don't think it's a misunderstanding. If you look at his original post and my reply, it's clear what he was referring to and what I replied.

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how about ViewNX2 then? good or not? or use PS CS4? smile.gif
lazy test... laugh.gif
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Don't understand your question. How do you get from NEF to Photoshop without NX2? You use ACR?

ACR does not interpret NEF files the best. NX2 must be in the equation when you open NEF files.
You're lucky you get to do that. People who have to work, no choice. Only weekends.
Aiyoh...  doh.gif Please don't start to play with words and take sentences out of their context.

Yes, it's the best software for NEF conversion if you're basically comparing output only. That's what the original discussion was about. Then came in issues like noise reduction and speed.

Of course like camera and lenses, softwares likes NX2 and Lightroom are tools of the trade. It's not for everybody lah. What works for one does not mean it would work for another. For volume work like wedding photography, speed and volume is more important. This is why many are still not using NX2. You need a powerful CPU and lots of memory and at times, the software will still hang.

Of course this does not also mean that people who do not use NX2 automatically give lousy photos. I've seen people with Lightroom who do wonderful photos.
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QUOTE(KTCY @ Mar 23 2011, 09:46 AM)
Well, this is not the first case of you laugh.gif

p/s : I mean stubborn and insist you're right. Ok. I rest my case. You can go on with ifer. Lazy laugh.gif
So now I'm the offender and you're playing police? icon_question.gif

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how about ViewNX2 then? good or not? or use PS CS4?  smile.gif
lazy test... laugh.gif
I'm told that for simple NEF to JPG conversion (exposure compensation etc), they are the same as NX2 as the View NX2 uses the same engine.

QUOTE(celciuz @ Mar 23 2011, 10:17 AM)
Yes, use Adobe Camera Raw.
Ok. Like I mention, for best quality, open NEF under Capture NX2. You can convert straight to JPG or if you want to PP further under Photoshop, save NEF to TIFF under Capture NX2 and open the TIFF file in Photoshop. Was warn you that the TIFF file will be huge.

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QUOTE(jchue73 @ Mar 23 2011, 10:21 AM)
I'm told that for simple NEF to JPG conversion (exposure compensation etc), they are the same as NX2 as the View NX2 uses the same engine.
Ok. Like I mention, for best quality, open NEF under Capture NX2. You can convert straight to JPG or if you want to PP further under Photoshop, save NEF to TIFF under Capture NX2 and open the TIFF file in Photoshop. Was warn you that the TIFF file will be huge.
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software.. software.. software.. Boringgg  rolleyes.gif
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software.. software.. software.. Boringgg  rolleyes.gif
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software.. software.. software.. Boringgg  rolleyes.gif
I'm a hardware person myself. Don't like software but nowadays cannot live without it.
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The person that don't really know the awesomeness of software said boring laugh.gif
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Software can do wonders if utilized properly.
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no camera also can produce picture tongue.gif
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I saw this on my Facebook...

"We got a huge worm stuck inside our 70-200 f2.8 is. Anyone got any experience with this? How to get it out?"
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I saw this on my Facebook...

"We got a huge worm stuck inside our 70-200 f2.8 is. Anyone got any experience with this? How to get it out?"
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I saw this on my Facebook...

"We got a huge worm stuck inside our 70-200 f2.8 is. Anyone got any experience with this? How to get it out?"
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Worm!?

Interesting :S, send back to Canon for them to service and clean it. Who knows might be eggs or something :S.
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i went for a TT organised by EddiePutera and really enjoyed myself (so i carbon copied his TT template.. hehe. tq cikgu!)

When : Wednesday 23rd March 2011
Where : Devi's Corner, TTDI (Devi's Corner, 38 Jalan Datuk Sulaiman Taman Tun Dr Ismail)
Map : http://www.havanaestudio.com/graphic...tdirectory.gif
Time : 8pm to 10:20pm, then 11:20pm til 12am

All are welcome especially newbies who wanna get some photo tips and such. Bring also your pictures and get em oldies to comment em. Bring your latest gear and poison the poor person sitting next to you. Do whatever you like but we aint gonna talk about politics. That's for sure.

anyone going to the above?
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u were at eddie putera's thingie? last friday at kota dsara?
i was there also tongue.gif

tonight's one is johan's one...u not johan right? tongue.gif
tho tonight one also most likely i come.

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The person that don't really know the awesomeness of software said boring laugh.gif
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are you refer to Photoshop?  tongue.gif
no camera also can produce picture  tongue.gif
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Software as in general smile.gif

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canon? throw away la biggrin.gif
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Worm!?

Interesting :S, send back to Canon for them to service and clean it. Who knows might be eggs or something :S.
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No idea which one that guy is using, he's doing good wedding video at Australia.

It would be really interesting how there's a worm inside? Isn't it's sealed? :S
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QUOTE(vearn27 @ Mar 23 2011, 12:01 PM)
Software as in general smile.gif
No idea which one that guy is using, he's doing good wedding video at Australia.

It would be really interesting how there's a worm inside? Isn't it's sealed? :S
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worm!? oh mai... *insert a horror sci-fi file segment in brain*

but usually those zoom lens got chance can get sand/dust inside because it is zoomable...i mean got gap can allow... not like prime lens smile.gif
well that's what i heard la, correct me if i m worng again hmm.gif

but still cannot think how the worm can get inside... it is the parasite worm? laugh.gif

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QUOTE(Agito666 @ Mar 23 2011, 12:06 PM)
worm!? oh mai... *insert a horror sci-fi file segment in brain*

but usually those zoom lens got chance can get sand/dust inside because it is zoomable...i mean got gap can allow... not like prime lens smile.gif
well that's what i heard la, correct me if i m worng again  hmm.gif

but still cannot think how the worm can get inside... it is the parasite worm?  laugh.gif
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some prime lens also can move in and out during focusing tongue.gif

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some prime lens also can move in and out during focusing tongue.gif
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oh... i thought only lens with flexible focus range can got higher chance to get that... duno prime lens, i just know prime lens = fixed focal length. hmm.gif

the infected spot i mean not in focus/zoom ring, it is the erm... expendable place there. hmm.gif aiks duno what it's called. rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(aldosoesilo @ Mar 23 2011, 10:43 AM)
software.. software.. software.. Boringgg  rolleyes.gif
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If this is analog age, then you will say
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i wonder how to discuss darkroom in this thread hmm.gif laugh.gif

A: my darkroom is awesome, easy to use.
B: mine one more awesome than you!! got red colour one...
C: mine is most awesome, got a white lady behind me.. whistling.gif
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My coffee is from Nespresso. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Agito666 @ Mar 23 2011, 01:30 PM)
i wonder how to discuss darkroom in this thread  hmm.gif  laugh.gif

A: my darkroom is awesome, easy to use.
B: mine one more awesome than you!! got red colour one...
C: mine is most awesome, got a white lady behind me.. whistling.gif
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QUOTE(Agito666 @ Mar 23 2011, 01:30 PM)
i wonder how to discuss darkroom in this thread  hmm.gif  laugh.gif

A: my darkroom is awesome, easy to use.
B: mine one more awesome than you!! got red colour one...
C: mine is most awesome, got a white lady behind me.. whistling.gif
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??? they discussed bout what kind of chemical they use .. and how they develop the film. etc etc ...
every chemical have their own kind of effect .. from graining ... till how u mix it with plain water .. and how long does it take to develop the film.
but most people who have their own darkroom, they normally process only BW film . MOSTLy.
since the easier one to develop is BW film.
and for film lovers they will mostly talk bout what kind film u used, negative, positive film .. etc etc ..
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??? they discussed bout what kind of chemical they use .. and how they develop the film. etc etc ...
every chemical have their own kind of effect .. from graining ... till how u mix it with plain water .. and how long does it take to develop the film.
but most people who have their own darkroom, they normally process only BW film . MOSTLy.
since the easier one to develop is BW film.
and for film lovers they will mostly talk bout what kind film u used, negative, positive film .. etc etc ..
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i only know film have iso choices only sweat.gif
write more about darkroom, like why using red bulb? chemical is acidic? tongue.gif or i still duno the concept how to make the image on positive film tongue.gif

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i only know film have iso choices only  sweat.gif
write more about darkroom, like why using red bulb? chemical is acidic? tongue.gif  or i still duno the concept how to make the image on positive film  tongue.gif
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actually , when u develop ur film, u can't have any light ( is my english correct a ?? ) , u need to develop ur film in total darkness .
i know this bcos, i develop my own bf film . there's no need for darkroom . u just need changing bag. once ur film inside the container. u can have as many lights as u want. the hard part is to load ur film into the container. need lot of practice .after u master loading film into the container . u can start mixing ur chemical.
u need thermometer, bcos u need to control ur chemical temperature. u can google for this .
how u mix ur chemical with plain water pon u need to experiment . i'm still learning . i believe there's a lot of sifu here knows a lot bout film processing.
after i develop my film then i can scanned it . easy . no need to use enlarger nowadays since got film scanner . hehehe smile.gif

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QUOTE(cik_tak @ Mar 23 2011, 01:52 PM)
actually , when u develop ur film, u can't have any light ( is my english correct a ?? ) , u need to develop ur film in total darkness .
i know this bcos, i develop my own bf film . there's no need for darkroom . u just need changing bag. once ur film inside the container. u can have as many lights as u want. the hard part is to load ur film into the container. need lot of practice .after u master loading film into the container . u can start mixing ur chemical.
u need thermometer, bcos u need to control ur chemical temperature. u can google for this .
how u mix ur chemical with plain water pon u need to experiment . i'm still learning . i believe there's a lot of sifu here knows a lot bout film processing.
after i develop my film then i can scanned it . easy . no need to use enlarger nowadays since got film scanner . hehehe smile.gif
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i roughly know the concept of negative film produce/imprint image through the lens haha... thanks for explaination...later google if i got free time tongue.gif
now digital era liao lor... whistling.gif icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(kakisemut @ Mar 23 2011, 01:18 PM)
want to know...
where i can get the original Nikon strap???
What strap? D3X? biggrin.gif

Have you tried Shashinki?

Anyway, speaking about softwares rolleyes.gif and View NX2, the US website already has updated to latest version 2.1.2.

http://support.nikonusa.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/17278

Nikon Malaysia / Asia website is still at 2.1.1.

http://nikonasia-en.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/162
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post Mar 23 2011, 02:06 PM

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Nikon europe already updated theirs too
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post Mar 23 2011, 02:22 PM

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QUOTE(jchue73 @ Mar 23 2011, 09:30 AM)
Yes, he has the experience and background education but that does not mean that he cannot be misinformed?

If somebody tells me I'm wrong, I will go back and find out for myself and see if I'm indeed wrong. I will humbly admit and move on to say that I've learned something new today if indeed what I said earlier was incorrect. Perhaps being at where he is makes it harder to take it from a nobody like me?  biggrin.gif  Being stubborn is clearly not the way the way forward. If he chooses to differ in opinion, I'm perfectly fine with it.
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Indeed, the hardest part is for people to admit their own mistakes; but those that does, will move on and go further. Usually, the biggest obstacle is the part to admit and learn. I guess it also depends on how a person is brought up, as usual, most peopl will tend to tease, laugh and make joke at someone who did wrong, this will shape the person into someone who's not willing to admit mistakes, so if we have kids, its important for us to make them understand its ok to make mistakes and learn from it.

Knowdlege, skills, experience is never ending and its nothing to do with age or if the person is newbie or profesional. Personally, I wouldn't look down on someone who is new or fresh, who knows, he/she might know something that I don't even know, or have more creative ideas. This applies to any field.

Disclaimer: The statement above is not meant for anyone, but just find its good to mention this since jchue73 mention this.

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post Mar 23 2011, 02:39 PM

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QUOTE(Andy214 @ Mar 23 2011, 02:22 PM)
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Indeed, the hardest part is for people to admit their own mistakes; but those that does, will move on and go further. Usually, the biggest obstacle is the part to admit and learn. I guess it also depends on how a person is brought up, as usual, most peopl will tend to tease, laugh and make joke at someone who did wrong, this will shape the person into someone who's not willing to admit mistakes, so if we have kids, its important for us to make them understand its ok to make mistakes and learn from it.

Knowdlege, skills, experience is never ending and its nothing to do with age or if the person is newbie or profesional. Personally, I wouldn't look down on someone who is new or fresh, who knows, he/she might know something that I don't even know, or have more creative ideas. This applies to any field.

Disclaimer: The statement above is not meant for anyone, but just find its good to mention this since jchue73 mention this.

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post Mar 23 2011, 02:58 PM

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QUOTE(freddy manson @ Mar 23 2011, 10:07 AM)
maybe they're pixel peepers and like RAW files better?
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hmm.gif means they will edit their own,photographers just snap and pass in RAW formats?care to rectify everdying?

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QUOTE(g_pentium @ Mar 23 2011, 02:58 PM)
hmm.gif means they will edit their own,photographers just snap and pass in RAW formats?care to rectify everdying?
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means u can see more detail when u print very big.
like clients want to see every fine details, threads on clothes etc, or even when u edit the color etc its more accurate...or like in hair details...so u can see every strand rather than them all merge together into one big block of black.
all that should be quite obvious already seeing how big raw files are.
some will be happy enough with like tiff or eps files.

of cos u dont need raw if all ur going to do is post pics on facebook etc tongue.gif

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post Mar 23 2011, 03:13 PM

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From KenRockWell.com which I find useful and easy to understand =


AF-S (AF-Single)

In AF-S, the D90 focuses once, and locks until you let go of the shutter and press it again.


AF-C (AF-Continuous)

In AF-C, the D90 constantly tracks focus as your subject moves in and out.


AF-A (AF-Automatic)

AF-A is the default setting. It's my favorite because the D90 is so smart that it figures out if your subject is moving or still, and automatically selects the correct mode above for each shot!
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QUOTE(Andy214 @ Mar 23 2011, 02:22 PM)
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Indeed, the hardest part is for people to admit their own mistakes; but those that does, will move on and go further. Usually, the biggest obstacle is the part to admit and learn. I guess it also depends on how a person is brought up, as usual, most peopl will tend to tease, laugh and make joke at someone who did wrong, this will shape the person into someone who's not willing to admit mistakes, so if we have kids, its important for us to make them understand its ok to make mistakes and learn from it.

Knowdlege, skills, experience is never ending and its nothing to do with age or if the person is newbie or profesional. Personally, I wouldn't look down on someone who is new or fresh, who knows, he/she might know something that I don't even know, or have more creative ideas. This applies to any field.

Disclaimer: The statement above is not meant for anyone, but just find its good to mention this since jchue73 mention this.

My cheap 2 shutter clicks.
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This qualifies to be one of the best posts here. I'd rather be listening to you alone (be it right or wrong, doesn't matter coz you have that right VALUES) than taking the most accurate spot-on opinion from those arrogant self-proclaimed I-know-it-all professional photographers (and divine for not making any mistake) who love making fun on others especially newbies like me.

Please stick around and gather as much info as possible. We need more 'seniors' like you.

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post Mar 23 2011, 03:28 PM

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QUOTE(Andy214 @ Mar 23 2011, 02:22 PM)
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Indeed, the hardest part is for people to admit their own mistakes; but those that does, will move on and go further. Usually, the biggest obstacle is the part to admit and learn. I guess it also depends on how a person is brought up, as usual, most peopl will tend to tease, laugh and make joke at someone who did wrong, this will shape the person into someone who's not willing to admit mistakes, so if we have kids, its important for us to make them understand its ok to make mistakes and learn from it.

Knowdlege, skills, experience is never ending and its nothing to do with age or if the person is newbie or profesional. Personally, I wouldn't look down on someone who is new or fresh, who knows, he/she might know something that I don't even know, or have more creative ideas. This applies to any field.

Disclaimer: The statement above is not meant for anyone, but just find its good to mention this since jchue73 mention this.

My cheap 2 shutter clicks.
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I like that one bro. thumbup.gif thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(opfish @ Mar 23 2011, 03:23 PM)
This qualifies to be one of the best posts here. I'd rather be listening to you alone (be it right or wrong, doesn't matter coz you have that right VALUES) than taking the most  accurate spot-on opinion from those arrogant self-proclaimed I-know-it-all professional photographers (and divine for not making any mistake) who love making fun on others especially newbies like me.

Please stick around and gather as much info as possible. We need more 'seniors' like you.
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orang ni konon out-station, but can still surf tongue.gif
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Yes, outstation bro. I'm having some break. You are going for the TT tonight rite? Send my regards to others. We'll arrange for our session soon!
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http://nikonimglib.com/nefcodec/

Argh downloaded .NEF codec from Nikon's website but it's only for 32-bit. Anyone knows where to download the 64-bit version? Any other free alternatives? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(FaezFarhan @ Mar 23 2011, 04:06 PM)
http://nikonimglib.com/nefcodec/

Argh downloaded .NEF codec from Nikon's website but it's only for 32-bit. Anyone knows where to download the 64-bit version? Any other free alternatives? hmm.gif
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NEF doesn't support 64bit windows doh.gif
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QUOTE(FaezFarhan @ Mar 23 2011, 03:13 PM)
From KenRockWell.com which I find useful and easy to understand =
AF-A (AF-Automatic)

AF-A is the default setting. It's my favorite because the D90 is so smart that it figures out if your subject is moving or still, and automatically selects the correct mode above for each shot!
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That somehow makes the shooter less smart IMO whistling.gif

QUOTE(Bliz @ Mar 23 2011, 04:17 PM)
NEF doesn't support 64bit windows  doh.gif
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