Hi,

I am planning to install a house alarm system..Anyone can recommend a good one with affordable price..?

This post has been edited by edwardsiow: Jan 3 2011, 09:45 PM

I'm quite interested too, not much information on alarm system.

I am now getting information from SUPA 10 (BRNO) because seems like a lot of people using it and not so expensive...

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Added on November 5, 2010, 8:21 pmAnyone please recommend a reliable house alarm system...

BRNO website down, facebook inactive and email no response....><



This post has been edited by edwardsiow: Nov 5 2010, 08:21 PM

go for paradox alarm, worldwide using it. reliable, trusted. get good installer to install it for you.

thanks.

yeah...i m also use Paradox Alarm......got many2 functions.....my suplier give me 2years warnty for any false alarm...

What kind of functions and whats the price you paid?

Paradox whole set including wiring how much?

Thanks

My house Semi-D type...so many tingkap there..and for my Paradox alarm system, suplier only install Shock(18 units),Magnetic(5Units) and motion sensor(1Unit only), total price RM1.5K (all wiring conceal type)....and he gave me a catalouge about paradox where i can add-on it in future (Photo Sensor/Smoke/Glass/ etc...)

also paradox can communicate throuh Phone/GSM/Internet where it will call u once alarm triggerd....

could u please pm your contractor contact to me. thanks.

I also need the contact of the sale office or contractor...Please PM me..thanks

For a Semi-D, rm1.5k is a steal considering you need to protect" many possible entry points. Whats the difference between shock and magnetic? No false alarm so far?

so far i think no possible entry even at top roof they install motion sensor, but if wanna make it perfect...install photobeam and motion sensor for outside area( quite expensive )....shcok sensor installed at my windows (on windows grille) while magnetic for all doors....

yeah..so far no false alarm...but in 5days after installation, Outside Siren didnt work,..i called them and immediatly they change to new one...

since they gave me 2years warrnty...i believe this product is reliabe..Paradox is under Canada Company..

hi guys,

i got an existing alarm system from the previous owner (subsale) but the owner did not left any contact to us. so, is it possible to just find a alarm vendor to rewire the system+add another keypad?

my uncle got his wallet+phone stolen at my place (USJ6) when he left the gate open while he was hacking somet parquet. it was fast.....no one hear anything.....luckily nothing happened...kinda regret buying there since it wasnt gated....sigh.....at first thought of removing the alarm...but now...i think i have to install it

This post has been edited by yothim: Nov 10 2010, 12:09 PM

i pay 3200++ for all windows shock and magnetic sensor, magnetic sensor for door, 3 PIR for rooftop, living hall and 1st flr living hall, 2 LCD keypad, 1 voice module for the call you when alarm trigger, plus siren outside and inside and control box and all wiring, plus magnetic sensor to all entry from the roof such as bathroom roof etc.

mine is double storey house and i'm using paradox spectra sp6000 with 12 zone

its a good brand.

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Added on November 10, 2010, 12:13 pmfor the safety reason, its best for you to install new alarm, cause not all alarm can be mix one. if i were you, i will remove it, and install new with my own idea where to put all the sensor.

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Added on November 10, 2010, 12:15 pmshock for any vibration, magnetic for the contact, so if any of your windows is not close properly (not in contact between magnetic sensor) then it will trigger if you arming the system, otherwise, if not arming, it will show you any that window as open zone. depending on the installer, my installer install the system and separate the sensor as zone, so for zone 1, it can be your kitchen, that includes all windows at the kitchen area, PIR sensor at the kitchen area so any of this sensor is not close properly, then it will show zone 1 kitchen as open zone. so u need to check all sensors connected to this zone.

for doors mostly, the installer will create a separate zone cause sometime u want to have delay before system arm, such as when you want to go out, and go inside, u need to arm the alarm, then, it gives some delay for you to lock the door first etc.

so at the end, its depending on your installer also, but you can discuss when install, how you want the alarm to be setup

This post has been edited by mrlonely78: Nov 10 2010, 12:20 PM

i was thinking of getting something which is not so 'invasive' as all these need to be hacked/concealed.......

get a wireless set then...no hacking is necessary.. and you can use those 'stick-it' to place those sensors on the windows/door frames..

i was thinking this but i would think the battery is the problem. btw is the main usit uses power from the socket or the battery? i dont mind buying one wireless which connect to the main power. the sensors running on batteries as i just need only 3 magnetic sensor n 2 motion sensor....hope this system exist...

Battery for the magnectic last for almost a year, and it lasts about 6 mths in the motion sensor.. Main unit has to attach to AC.

This wireless alarm system is quite common since many years back.. The thing is how/where to source for a reliable one. I used to use a 800 bucks wireless system that comes with 2 motion sensors, 6 magnectic sensors and an external siren. Main units connect to phoneline so that it will ring your hp or any other phone when any of the sensors triggered, or you can turn on/off the alarm via your mobile.

But it gets a bit of false alarm hence i have decommissioned it year back.... I got it from lelong btw. If you could source for a reliable set, it is the way to go! why hack your wall..

Anyone know where, how and who should I contact about paradox spectra sp6000?

Any sale office near Bandar Puteri Puchong?

Hi all....due too many PM me about my suplier...Here s contact details:

Winson 012-2060138

Dont forget mention my name Zul Taman Universiti...

But i cannot gurentee u can get same as my price...try ur best...

I am using Paradox wireless system. It cost me about 2800 for a double story house. I will say the system is reliable.

Thanks...

Where is his location?

do you think that is it possible to get a paradox spectra sp6000 around RM2000 for corner double story house?





This post has been edited by edwardsiow: Nov 10 2010, 03:30 PM

agree - paradox is a good system. using wired system and happy. thinking of adding wireless smoke detector (do you have those sonerin? how much you paid then?)

one of the good security feature can be motion light detector . do check out my products in my garage sales for such light which i am giving very good offer now. this can help to deter intruders in dark corner area.

sp6000 basic with standard keypad and 2 PIR and 10 magnetic + 10 shock will cause you around RM2,400 i think.

This post has been edited by mrlonely78: Nov 10 2010, 05:01 PM

hi sonerin, mind telling me what model did you use? my subsale house has a paradox alarm, wired but those wires are just too 'disgusting' esp the ones at the grill. i think of using the existing controller n living room keybad (the room keypad was taken by the previous owner) and upgrade to wireless...is that possible? i just need 4-5magnet contact and 2 FIR for the kitchen and also the attic...

I just agree to use PARADOX SP6000 with free one lighting control and total of two roof censor (usually is one, they free another one to me) only cost me RM2000 (corner DS house)..They will come to do wiring next week..

Thanks for some of the friends here given me valuable opinions..

Dear Omel,

Can you please PM me the contact of your Paradox Alarm installer?

Many thanks in advance.

Regards,
Andrew

was thinking to get one china made alarm from homeware section in trade zone, cheap basic set only 275, but paradox sounds pretty good.

@andrewektai, omel stated it before, Winson 012-2060138

many thanks thor_gentt

this kinda alarm setup need to hack the wall 1 rite? who do the patch up then?

my house is undergoing renovation soon, shud i engage it now? or later?

What I know is everything about wiring should do before plastering..

If conceal the wires after plastering, they will plaster the wall for you..but I am not sure the quality is good or not..

Better to ask the renovation guy to do plaster for you

Call him 012-2060138 Winson...

Oredi inform him that i ve my friend(Lowyat Forum) who interestd to install this Paradox Alarm, try to get best price from him.

Dont forget mention my name Zul From Tmn Universiti Kajang.Surely he will know...

thank you very much for the alarm contact, you guys rocks!

This post has been edited by maxguy: Jan 3 2011, 09:24 PM

Yes, I did mention your name and I said you only paid RM1500..He straight away said, I am cazy!! No such thing!! @@ I bargain with him almost one hour also no use....@@ He just stay nearby me...

This post has been edited by edwardsiow: Jan 3 2011, 09:39 PM

Yeah, he(Winson) also call me,and asked "why tell ur friend price RM1.5K"....hehheeee.....That s why i cannot gurentee u all can get this price...One thing maybe i bought at same time DCMOTO 950Premium from him which cost another RM1.5K....total i paid rm3K for both Autogate and Alarm System....

1.5K Autogate system?? including wiring?

No, i appoint other wireman for autogate wiring, which cost rm300 (Conseal Type 7Core Armore Cable)...so he just install it...

1.5K is just the autogate system? including the gate or not?

RM300 (Conseal Type 7Core Armore Cable) is very cheap...mine one RM450...sad..

i need to install the auto gate system too, good to have one person handle both alarm and auto gate system.

1.5k surely only for motor, gate alone usually cost around 2.3k or even higher if galvanized + epoxy powder coated. then u will have a piece of mind...

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Added on January 3, 2011, 10:28 pmbro, only wiring? hacking? knocking? conseal back? RM300 is very very cheap.


This post has been edited by areankim: Jan 3 2011, 10:28 PM

yes...RM300 very cheap.....@@

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Added on January 3, 2011, 10:31 pmis DCMOTO 950 Premium autogate system quality good?

This post has been edited by edwardsiow: Jan 3 2011, 10:31 PM

omels : picture picture~~ hehehehehe

RM3k for autogate(warranty how many years??) + alarm(2 years warranty)

is great, but i'm klang, will he come?

ok...i ll snap pic and upload it tonight.....Paradox and DCmoto Autogate.....

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Added on January 4, 2011, 10:12 amHere s pics for my Paradox and DC Moto....Sorry, poor pic quality.




This post has been edited by omels: Jan 4 2011, 10:12 AM

thanks for sharing! nice!

it's quite a big motor... i wonder if i do a folding type of gate, the same motor will be used? which mean.. my gate wont be open up full?

how is the remote range for ur DCmoto?

mine is quite bad, need to be in front of the gate only can open/close the gate

Yes, I also wonder how when I want to use folding type of gate....

This post has been edited by edwardsiow: Jan 5 2011, 06:34 PM

no laaa.....from my eyes it s not big....just nice....yes...gate will open full.....

BTW u can try to google DCMOTO in website...get some info there...

may i know where is Winson shop? i also looking for alarm n autogate for my new house at BBB. omel, which contractor that u're using for renovation (plaster ceiling, grilles, KC, etc)

Winson i think at Seri Kembangn....try to call him....i ve so many contrctr for my house renovation....hahaha

Winson just stay nearby me...hehe...

Omels, can I know the price of your plaster ceiling?

What I get from Wai Teong is

flat board = RM 2.10 per sqf
double step = Rm 13 per sqf
L.box = RM 10

Do you have even more cheaper?

Thanks

ohh really?so can give me his shop address. Which area of Sri Kembangan. Need to go to his shop 1st, to have a look..

His warehouse shop at equine park...don't need to visit his shop lar..his shop no people, just for keeping stock....

you just call him, arrange a time, he will meet up at your house...he will bring the product and specification and explain to you..He will explain in detail what you need, how to do, etc..

his house at Taman Bukit Serdang..seksyen 15...I stay at seksyen 11..walking 5-10 minutes can reach his house..

This post has been edited by edwardsiow: Jan 6 2011, 12:28 PM

waaa...very "Syok" laa u edward.....If got False Alarm, just go to his house....hahaha.....

I think we re out of topic for this thread laa....hahaa, because thread discuss about alarm, then go to Autogate...then plaster Ceiling...etc...



This post has been edited by omels: Jan 6 2011, 12:56 PM

out of topic never mind lar...you fast fast give me plaster Ceiling quotation =)

I bought my SP6000 set (10 vibration sensor, 4 magnetic sensor, 1 PIR sensor, 2 keypad and one voice module), it costs me around RM1200. I replaced it with my existing china made alarm by DIY.

So far it is quite okay, only there is one time the pass code ran away (weird), I have to hard reset the whole alarm. and also the stay D doesn't work anymore after hard reset.

Mind sharing where do you get this one. Rm1200 include installation? Conceal?

RM 1200 is without installation. my house come with the alarm wire concealed, so I just need to replace the main board.

You can visit the following website, their store is located at bandar puteri, puchong. the basic SP6000 package is RM790 without installation.

http://www.lelong.com.my/merchant/belinda16.htm

Thanks Kiding. I found 1 pretty good deal from Mudah, RM600 for Paradox SP6000 set (no PIR, add RM80 for it), and installation for about RM800 to RM1000, same price for casing or conceal type installation. They will install this Saturday.

anyone got experience with Home Alarm and Automation? got good price for them for Paradox system.. they also recommend Axeco but they said this one more for automation.. can control lighting..

just install magnet alarms on each window and doors. i can provide you 10 of these at a price of rm150, batteries included.

dude, have anyone heard of secura as my alarm guy recommend it to me over paradox sp5500, both of them are RM1500 exlcuding wiring.

2 x keypad
1 x external alarm
1 x internal alarm
9 x vibration sensors
2 x magnetic sensors

PS: they recommend copper wiring for the whole root top (or 5 motion sensors at RM1300)

2 magnetic sensors? Only the door? What happen to the window?
I guess your internal alarm refer to the alarm sound, rights?

Windows, assuming with steel frame, it will use vibration sensor.

You need to check how many zone system they give you, and is it possible to add more zone?

if got money, go for subscription type like ADT.

Bought bluguard wireless alarm. 10 contact sensors (magnetic or vibration), 1 PIR, 1 keyboard (V16N), 1 indoor siren, 1 outdoor siren with strobe light, 1 remote. Cost at RM1800.

just installed paradox SP5500 for my single storey teres (9 vibration, 1 motion, 2 magnetic, 2 keypads, 2 sirens, 8 Zones). RM1500 excluding cabling.

Using copper wiring for the roof top so any break in from roof top will trigger the alarm as long as the copper wire has been broken; better than motion sensor which has dead zone or cause many invalid triggering which could be due to rat, insect and etc.



anyone know how to fine tune the sensitivity of this model?

thx

i got kids in my house.. sometimes kids like to slam doors very hard, that cause my neighbours alarm to go off... Sometimes, the wind pushes my door and slams the door very hard -> neighbours alarm goes off..

As for my house, I set my shock sensor such that it only detects double shock before it triggers the alarm. Actually, all alarms can do that.. you just have to read the manual on how to program the shock sensor..

i couldnt find a way to program the shock sensor sensitivities for both of the user manual and installation guide

My wireless alarm was fried by lightning. Does anyone know any alarm system (including Paradox) has warranty against lightning strike? If got, i would rather have a mid range alarm system with good lightning warranty than sophisticated one which will be fried soon!

What i know lighting are not cover. Unless is given or inform upfront before purchase.

ask ur alarm sifu connect the alarm via a surge protector; not sure can or not.. lol

Actually Paradox does provide a lightning arrestor. This will reduce the risk but your chance is still 50-50 and there is still no warranty on it. I live is relatively high land area and have 2 alarm casualties to prove it!

any wireless alarm system for recommendation?

too bad.
so have you found any solution to overcome this?

Winson just installed Paradox SP6000 alarm at my house for RM2000. My house is a semi-d unit and there are quite a number of sensors. Some he put both shock & door sensor. He did the wiring about 3 weeks ago and installed the alarm today. He didn't take a single cent from me until after everything is done, which is after he explain how to set up the alarm. He's quite talkative. I think he's a dependable and honest person.

The only negative thing is that his wiring worker did not clean up the mess after they hack the walls to conceal the wires. I had to ask and pay my renovation contractor to clean-up the mess and seal the walls.

His company has a website (i saw it from the bill) - http://ots2u.com/

This post has been edited by rikiraikonnen: Jun 23 2011, 09:31 PM

Hi Guys,

I'm also interested in Paradox for my 2 Storey Terrace End Lot and got a quote from a vendor, need your feedback if his pricing is fair :

1 Paradox SP6000 Series Security Control Panel Board c/w Metal Casing Box, 16.5V / Transformer& 12V 7AH Back-Up Security Panel Battery ( SP6000 ) : RM 600
2 Paradox 10 Zones LED Based Keypad c/w On-Board Panic Buttons ( K10 ) : RM 500 (RM250 x 2)
3 Surface Mount Mangetic Contact : RM 350 (RM25 x 14)
4 BELL' Adjustable Vibration Shock Sensor : RM300 (RM25 x 12)
5 Paradox PB30 Photoelectric Beam Detector, 100' (30m) Detection Range : RM960 (RM480 x 2)
6 Telestar Blue Strobe Lighted External Siren : RM185
7 Paradox Wireless Activator Module : RM 391
8 Paradox Wireless 4 Button Remote Control c/w Panic Button : RM 392 (RM196 x 2)
9 AZTECH Analog & Digital Data Splitter Unit : RM60
10 Paradox Security System Lightning Protector Unit : RM 80
11 Installation Chargers Inclusive Of Labor Works, Cabling & UPVC Conduit Cost, Hacking Works, Installation Works, Testing & Commissioning : RM 1600

Total RM 5418 - Discount RM 1218 : RM 4200

Thanks !

Why don't you call Winson and get his quotation for the stuff that you require. I think mine is not as complicated as yours... I don't have remote control but I have all possible entry covered with magnetic and/or vibration sensor.. I think rooftop he installed some special sensor, not the same one for the doors & windows. Actually Winson is the 2nd person I approached, the first one I got from Houz Depot. They want to charge me RM5000.. which is quite ridiculous..

I plan to install alarm to my new house but undecided over wireless or wired alarm? Which one is better if we take the price out from consideration.

My biggest concern for wireless alarm is the battery life, how long it can be used before need to change the battery? Any insight on this LYN forumers?

Thanks!

Wire is always better. Get an alarm system with smoke detector too.

why you think is better? Can give your POV?

A good wireless sensor battery life can last typical 24 to 36 months depend what type of sensor. Motion sensor required more battery power. Replacement will be really costly, can you imagine changing 20 Lithium Ions battery? Assuming RM 15 for one battery, you do the math. That is assuming you have 2 motion sensor, and 12 shock sensor. If you have more you buy more.

My knowledge in wireless alarm are limited, i know more on Wired cause my friend do for commercial and bank.

I'll say a good wired alarm system with good wiring are maintenance free.

For wireless maybe just a simple system is ok, for entire house coverage wired are better.

Maybe you can mix both? Im using wireless for doors and windows sensors. For motion, im using wired (Im not sure if there is wireless motion sensor).
But even for wireless, you still need to to some wiring (panel box, receiver box, lighting strobe, etc).

Another common problem with Alarm, please isolate the phone line.

If not you risk frying the alarm controller.

got wireless motion sensors.

wiring involved for wireless alarm, is just the power lines for the control panel + external siren box.

so far battery life for each sensor i'm experiencing is approx 1.5-2 years with indicator.

You mean even wireless also need to hack the wall to conceal the cable?

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Added on June 28, 2011, 2:46 pmThanks weikee for the explanation. RM15 per battery serious? How come the wireless alarm salesman tell me each battery is only RM2.50??

This post has been edited by escargo75: Jun 28 2011, 02:46 PM

The only thing that wireless are the sensors only.

The control panel and powered by electricity. Also, there's the alarm box, that people put on the outside, so that neighbours and hear the
sound. The alarm box is connected by wires.. You have to hide the wires.


As for batteries, i think it depends on what type of battery they want to use..

Unless they use AA or AAA. Button, lithium and CR123 is not that cheap.

This post has been edited by weikee: Jun 28 2011, 04:39 PM

yea depends on what battery used.

i use CR123....cost about RM8-10 depends on brand. and change is needed after approx 2 years.

good thing about wireless is that its transferable and easily customizable (incase u wanna reno in the future).

alot of pros and cons la. so it depends on your preference haha

wired :
pros - maintenance free
cons - need to do wiring throughout the house..
- the wiring can get faulty .. possibly eaten by rat, or deterioriate itself
due to aging, or bad installation..

wireless
pros - no need wiring
- you change the sensor location anytime, anywhere. And maybe you
want to put the sensors on your cupboard or drawer if you like.. and maybe
stick it at your front gate if the sensor can withstand outdoor condition.
cons - need to change battery periodically..
- if the sensor is put on the roof, you need to climb your roof to change the battery.


As for me, if money not a problem, i'd go for wired, or maybe get both, so I can get
the advantages of both world.

Proper wire system will not expose too much wire. It risk being tamper by thief. Usually all are conceal and only the connection to the sensor are expose "minimal"

Hi All,

I got a 2nd quote from another vendor to compare my 1st one for Paradox.
The 2nd quote is for a product called CQDT (Model is CQDT Z9) Has anyone heard of this brand before?
Any feedback would be great. Thanks !

Today went to a Puchong Security shop,

been quot RM6140 for the below item

1 x Dome
2 x IR camera (seen the night vision very clear)
DVD play back (korean brand)
Alarm whole house, all door and window <-- some italy brand call bentel
2 controller, 1 at living room 1 and master bed room
installation

is this price fair ? since this is my first survey for alarm and CCTV ?

however my budget is around 3 - 4k max for security system.. izzit my budget too low ? should is there other cheaper 1 yet reliable ? cox i dunwan end up saving 2k but the security feature been sucks 1

Hi Experts,

Need some advice... how good is the brand DSC alarm? Can anyone let me know if compare to PARA DOX?

Need some urgent advice as I need to confirm my renovators the same for installation..... >.<

Hi, I never heard DSC alarm, PARADOX is high end product. Mayb u can asking for Bluguard alarm, it is a stable and cheaper alarm.